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Bannons WarRoom Ep 597: America Under Attack (w/ VandenBerghe, Shaffer, Giuliani, Fredericks)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
laura ingraham
As I close out this year, I thought it was super important to reiterate just how fortunate we were to have had a president like Donald Trump for four years.
Now, forget the savagery of his critics, the rank media bias, and of course the controversy surrounding the 2020 election, mail-in ballots.
Set that aside for just a moment.
And just focus on what President Trump, against incredibly strong headwinds, did for our economy.
I want to say thank you to President Trump for what you did for the forgotten man and woman across this country and for American industry.
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Fight for Trump!
Fight for Trump!
Strike down all the people of America!
Strike down all the men next door!
Calvary and the men of America We are going down tonight against the...
Fight for Trump!
Strike down all the people of America!
Strike down all the men next door!
Calvary and the men of America We are going down tonight against the...
Fight for Trump!
steve bannon
Welcome to the home of Fight for Trump.
It's Stephen K. Bannon, live from the nation's capital.
You're in the War Room.
Got our wingman here, at least for one more day, Maggie Vandenberg from Fog City Midge, before she departs up for her audition at Newsmax TV next week.
It's the Saturday, the 19th of December, Year of Our Lord 2020.
We're on John Frederick Radio Network.
We're on Real America Voiced Throughout the Nation, Dish Channel 219, Comcast Channel 113.
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We're now passing 300,000 subscribers on YouTube to a couple hundred thousand on Rumble, a show that gets millions of viewers globally every day and one of the reasons is for the great offices of G News and GTV, which subtitle us in Mandarin and blow it out throughout the world.
Also, we are now in our podcast closing on 25 million Downloads.
25 million downloads.
One of the biggest podcasts in the nation and the world and it's because of you, the audience.
And what we try to do every day in a couple hours is compress the day's news.
The signal, not the noise.
We do not chase rabbits.
You notice what other people cover and we don't and what we cover that other people don't.
We've got Rudy Giuliani later, Boris Epstein, a lot going on in the fight for Trump, the fight for the nation.
As YouTube knows and has told us many, many times, officially on the Safe Harbor and then on the Electoral College Day, officially, it is Joe Biden.
But as you know, there are subpoenas flying around from Arizona to Michigan.
There are huge fights with state legislatures.
In Georgia and throughout the world.
So I wanted to start with Laura Ingham, a dear friend and a colleague, but somehow going on vacation for a couple weeks.
Just a program note, we're not going on vacation.
In fact, we're going to have a Christmas Day special.
I've done this special now for years since I've been doing radio and TV.
The Combat History of Christmas with Patrick K. O'Donnell will be our special.
Two hour on Christmas morning, you don't want to miss it, about American servicemen throughout the world that have fought for their country Over the Christmas holidays, and particularly on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Everywhere from Trenton to the Chosin Reservoir and other places.
The Battle of the Bulge, everything.
Patrick K. O'Donnell, one of the great combat historians, will join us.
Also, we have a special Christmas Eve special.
And then Rahim Ghassan always does his Boxing Day special on the 26th.
So, we're going to be here every day with news, information, analysis.
Limited opinion, right?
We try to get to the receipts.
We've got Frank Mir, UFC two-time heavyweight champion, in the second hour.
Also, Corey Mills, a special projects contractor for DoD, on our continuing effort to talk about toxic masculinity.
We'll be doing all that in the second hour of the show.
I want to start off, and by the way, for Laura Ingraham, love Laura Ingraham, she's a colleague, she has taken a couple weeks off, but Laura, that kind of sounded like a eulogy President Trump has actually started his second term.
Note to self, note to Laura's production staff, love you guys, but take your number two pencil out, write this down.
We've already started the second term on high noon.
It's Trump.
We're fighting for that because we must close on the biggest landslide, one of the biggest landslides in American history, and to take a riff on Shakespeare.
We come not to bury Trump, but to praise him.
Okay?
So let's get focused over there at Fox.
Let's get focused.
Lou Dobbs had to put some bizarre, bizarro – Lou Dobbs, the great warrior, had to put some bizarro interview with some guy talking about backtracking or reversing field on Dominion voting systems or smart tech or something.
It was a bizarro thing and they're reporting that – I think Maria Bartiromo and Judge Jeanine have to put it on their show.
We're going to get into all that of what exactly is going on.
But I want to start with something we haven't covered in depth.
We've covered the intelligence fiasco about the election.
And President Trump did not get his report, but he did get a briefing, right?
So that's all going on.
I want to bring on an old friend of the show and an old friend of mine and a colleague and one of the great patriots in modern American history, 35-year Army veteran.
In fact, the leader of one of the first cyber counterintelligence, cyber security operations in the 90s, Colonel Tony Schaefer and the author of a book came a number of years ago that you've got to read if you haven't, Operation Dark Heart.
Tony is a true patriot, deeply involved in trying to unearth and trying to get ahead of what happened on 9-11, and a guy that knows cyber.
So Tony, in 2004, Colonel Schaefer, 2014, excuse me, 2014, Panetta, who had been Chief of Staff of the White House and Secretary of Defense, when he left Secretary of Defense, he went up to Midtown Manhattan, Right?
And he gave a talk.
In fact, I think he might have given it on the aircraft.
I think he might have gone to the Intrepid and actually had a lunch or something and gave it up there, as I remember.
But what shocked me was that the title of the speech was, Beware of the Cyber Pearl Harbor.
And Panetta, whether you like his politics or not, was always a serious guy.
And he said, hey, the biggest threat we have is to what happened in 1941, is to have a strike Out of when we were least expecting it, a cyber Pearl Harbor.
And over the last couple days people have been talking about this hack.
Was it real?
Why did it take so long for people to talk about it?
Why did Krebs, and I want to talk about CBS News, they had Krebs on there dumping on the president, dumping on us, quite frankly on our audience, saying this is the most secure election in American history, but Krebs was the guy in charge of cyber security.
Catherine Herridge, She is the most well-sourced reporter at the Pentagon.
She left Fox.
She's at CBS News.
It's impossible that Kareth and Herod didn't have some inkling of what was going on.
I don't know why 60 Minutes did not ask Krebs.
You know why they didn't?
Because they wanted Krebs to dump all over Trump and dump all over us who are fighting to get only legal ballots counted.
And they didn't mention one word about this.
So, Colonel Schaefer, was this a cyber Pearl Harbor?
Was Leon Panetta right?
tony shaffer
So, let's start with Krebs.
Krebs was completely wrong about the election, and he's wrong about CISA's understanding of the backbone, and the SolarWinds issue is going to prove that.
Let's be clear, Steve, on what SolarWinds is.
SolarWinds was a middleware used by other IT companies, the government sector, the NGO sector, to essentially manage databases.
So, think about this.
Anything that SolarWinds touched was compromised.
And what we understand now is that SolarWinds proved that.
Let's be clear, Steve, on what SolarWinds is.
SolarWinds was a middleware used by other IT companies, the government sector, the NGO sector, to essentially manage databases.
So, think about this.
Anything that SolarWinds touched was compromised.
And what we understand now is that SolarWinds was actually managing multiple, multiple databases to include major corporations, as well as government.
And so what we have to understand and analyze is the scope.
At this point, we know that this operation was going on for at least nine months, maybe longer.
And what's insidious, and let me be very clear for the audience who may not necessarily follow IT as a professional area of focus.
When you download software on your computer, it's normally digitally certified by someone.
Microsoft, if you have an antivirus, it is digitally certified.
What happened here, Steve, is that SolarWind, its entire structure was compromised by whoever the hacker is by embedding malware, in this case AT&T.
So right now, Mike Pompeo, who I respect, and I did advise when he was director of CIA, Mike is saying he thinks the Russians are behind it.
I don't necessarily think we know that, or if they're the only ones, because technology is completely ambivalent to the user.
So it's very clear whoever did this was brilliant.
They knew to target a company that had access to multiple other companies, and those other companies allowed this open access to solar wind to their entire infrastructure.
It's brilliantly evil, but it is a very large scope we're still trying to figure out.
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Now, let's go through that.
steve bannon
The hack has been going on for six months.
Are we to be led to believe that people, it's like an understanding that Biden has been under investigation and people have known they've been corrupt and selling them out to the Chinese for years.
Do you think this just got Found out that this and now it's just becoming public to kind of cross over to put to put the bigfoot all of the issues related to The stealing of the election and to make sure that now the Christ is going to come out It's going to come out starting this afternoon and tomorrow in the shows the Sunday shows watch.
Here's what the here's what the time I'm gonna give you Tomorrow's news or Sunday's news today, tomorrow's news today.
They're going to be crushing President Trump for not continuing the Pentagon briefings and for not doing a full thing.
They were jeopardizing national security.
This is how they're going to say Biden won, it's time to stop this nonsense and we're just going to force our way in and Trump's just going to have to believe it and they're going to use this hack as the way to do it.
Am I correct in that, Colonel Schaefer?
tony shaffer
I think it's very possible, but I think Mike Pompeo's made this very clear that, you know, the The hack has nothing to do and nothing the Biden folks could do at this point either, because simply put, the very mechanisms that Biden would take over, Steve, CISA, they're compromised.
So, you know, I don't think I don't think there's any benefit of giving them any access until we can figure out what happened.
And let me be very clear on the scope of this compromise.
We're talking about CISA.
We're talking about the National Institute of Health.
We're talking about apparently Department of Commerce, Department of Transportation, and DHS and State Department.
These are all major things which the current government has to deal with.
Nothing Biden or his folks could even think about doing at this point, nor should they.
So I don't dispute that they may use that tact.
I just don't think it would be healthy for them to get involved.
You don't want cooks in the kitchen that don't need to be there.
steve bannon
Colonel Schaefer, we've got Rudy and we've got John Ferguson, Georgia.
We've got to figure out, I've got to figure out how to get, just hold over the break, we're going to figure out whether we can keep you in the next segment or bring you back later in the show because I've got so much more to go through and you're one of the country's top experts in this.
Colonel Tony Schaefer, one of the original cyber warriors.
For the Pentagon and for the U.S.
Army and a guy who did more than anybody to try to unearth the reality of what happened on 9-11 and tell the American people what the truth was.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return, maybe with Colonel Schaefer, maybe with John Fredericks, but if not, we're going to get Colonel Schaefer back in.
We've got Rudy, we've got UFC heavyweight champion Frank Mir, we've got Corey Mills, special projects from the Pentagon.
We've got Boris Epstein.
There's a lot going on.
It's another hot Saturday and we thank you very much on this Christmas season.
During Advent, to have us as part of your life, we're going to talk about Archbishop Vagano and his tweets out this morning.
All of that when we return on War Room Pandemic.
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Whiteboard Trump! Whiteboard Trump!
steve bannon
Trump was the instrument in which the country started to turn around and we start to start to take on this nationalistic populist movement as John Kerry refers to us.
Started to confront the elites in our country.
Remember the reason Donald Trump won in 2016 is quite simple.
The managed decline of the greatest nation on earth by our elites of both political parties.
Of every political persuasion, the managed decline by elites in every aspect of American life.
That's simply boiled down to its essence.
Why Donald Trump won in 2016.
It's also why Donald Trump won in a massive landslide in 2020.
Now, we understand our friends at our overlords at YouTube and other places put out the official party line, and that is the official party line.
Officially, the Electoral College has deemed that Joe Biden won.
We beg to differ.
And since we're Americans and we're got a certain cussedness by by the way the country has been founded and fought for, we're going to continue to fight.
We're not part of a cult.
We haven't drank the Kool-Aid.
President Trump is an instrument, right?
He knows that, and he's an instrument to confront the elites that still want to have America in permanent decline.
Okay, you can agree with that or not agree with it.
If you don't agree with it, it's fine.
We hope to convince you, and I will tell you, at least one-third of this massive audience that follows the show are Democrats.
Some are former Democrats, some are still Democrats.
There are a lot of the Bernie followers, and all I say to you is that anybody that's still a Bernie follower is a sucker.
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Right?
steve bannon
Just look at what's happened with the Biden situation.
You guys threw in, and you've been shown the door.
Okay, you won't be shown the door here.
We don't agree on everything, but some of the things, the important things, I think we agree on a lot.
And so I want to turn now to, we're in a fight.
We're not going on Christmas vacation, right?
There's no vacation.
This is why we do the Combat History of Christmas every year.
There's no vacation at the Battle of the Bulge at Bastogne.
There was no vacation at the Chosin Reservoir in Korea.
There was no vacation in the Revolution when we had the great attack at Trenton that basically turned across the Delaware and really saved the fledgling American Republic.
There's no days off.
Right?
That's why it's called a fight.
And remember, here we focus on fights that matter.
We don't chase rabbits.
We're not here doing this because it's good for our health or, you know, we think it's fun.
Right?
We're doing it because we're dedicated to this country.
We're dedicated to this republic.
And we refuse.
We will never, ever, ever, ever, ever surrender on this.
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Okay?
steve bannon
We're going to hold the line and now we're moving the chains.
And this is why I say, you don't need the Insurrection Act, you don't need to call out the Army.
There are three state legislatures, in Wisconsin, in Georgia, and in Arizona, that hold the fate of the nation.
Because there, we can prove, without any doubt, beyond all reasonable doubt, That this election was stolen.
That there are fraudulent, non-legal, non-certifiable, non-chain-of-custody votes that were counted that have to be uncounted.
And that means they have to be de-certified.
These are Republican legislatures.
They're not Democratic.
They're not Communist.
They're not Socialist.
They're not from Russia.
They're not from China.
They may be influenced by a lot of that stuff, but they're good old-fashioned Republicans.
Okay?
So, let's just lay it out.
We're burning daylight.
I want to turn now to a guy I think is a patriot and a hero.
He has shifted his entire operation, his entire family life, everything, from right after the election, where he spent all night up on a freezing rooftop doing the John Frederick Show, But, and he has a massive audience throughout the country, the deplorables, but particularly in the central Atlantic part of the United States.
But he went to Georgia right away.
He went to the sound of the guns, right?
He knew that Georgia was going to be the center of gravity of this.
He didn't know when he got down there.
He thought it was going to be about trying to count this vote and then this election, this special election in January.
He didn't realize the depth of the political depravity, and that's what it is, political depravity that he would find when he got there, John Frederick.
So John, we're sitting here now on the 19th Saturday, we're burning daylight within one month.
of this inauguration of High Noon on the 20th.
We've got Christmas coming up and, correct me if I'm wrong, did I see, was Governor Kemp posting photographs of himself?
Maggie, were these real?
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This is unbelievable.
No, I was on Instagram last night and Governor Kemp from Georgia is at the White House posting photos of himself at a White House Christmas party.
steve bannon
John, is that fake news?
Is that real?
john fredericks
Well, you know, he is a Republican governor, so he's going to get an invite to the Christmas party, and obviously he thought it was a good thing for him and the First Lady of Georgia to go, so he posted pictures of it.
This is all empty stuff though, Steve, because Georgia really is this head of the spear of the new movement that is sweeping America.
That nobody in the Republican Party understands.
Certainly Karl Rove doesn't.
Our two senators down there, he or don't.
That's why they're now at risk.
And they want action.
And so, you know, going and doing happy face pictures, these days are over.
Georgia is now seeing the level of deception and corruption that has gone on in their government.
I think we've been a part of that simply by giving people an outlet And they're silent no more.
They can call into our show.
And some of the things that we've uncovered is unbelievable.
GeorgiaStarNews.com.
Go to GeorgiaStarNews.com.
We've got a story coming out tonight at midnight.
Basically, we've got representatives going on the record.
They've come on my show.
This is no secret.
Basically, they said that David Ralston, the Speaker of the House, allegedly lied to the president when he said he would back that petition for the special session, which basically could have ended all this. And instead he was strong-arming representatives, threatening them that if they signed on to the petition for the special session, that he would strip them of their committees and blackball them out of their seats.
So we got several that have come on the record.
We got the story going out tonight.
I tweeted it out last night just to give you an example.
So far it's gotten like 15,000 retweets.
People are done with this and they want action and so they're looking at their leaders and I've said this over and over.
The movement that is fomenting in Georgia, which is is typical of the country, I believe, is outpacing its current stack of Republican leaders.
It's gone beyond them, doesn't care about them.
That's why these two Senate seats are at risk.
Nobody seems to want to go and find out why voters in Georgia are so mad and why there's a percentage of them that simply aren't going to show up in this runoff, putting these two seats at major risk.
steve bannon
Let's go back.
I want to make sure we focus on something.
Do you think that, what needs to happen?
Because people don't know about January 6th, but there's a couple things.
We need a special session.
This is what Ken Blackwell was saying.
The control mechanism here is the state legislatures.
What needs to happen right now on Saturday to make sure that we have a special session in Georgia, either Christmas week or the week between Christmas and New Year, before the 6th, to make sure the evidence is presented in an official form?
What do you believe needs to happen?
john fredericks
There's a petition that has been circulated by the State Senate and by the House of Representatives in Georgia that is dead in the water right now.
According to the Georgia Constitution, a special session just dealing with the presidential election and the electors can be called with 50% plus one of members.
That means they need 29 of 36 to convene and to go over the evidence And also change the rules of the special election and get rid of that consent decree.
steve bannon
We've got to get this up on our site.
But the governor himself individually can call for a special session, correct?
john fredericks
Yes, he's not going to do it.
He said multiple times he's not going to do it.
He could do that today.
He could do that on his plane ride home from the White House.
steve bannon
If Kemp does not do this on January, right after January 6th, to me, the folks in Georgia, we should not worry about primarying Kemp.
He thinks he's got a political future.
To me, the effort should be to recall Kemp and recall him immediately.
Hey, if Stacey Abrams turns out to be the governor in some real, you know, some recontest, hey, so be it.
Right?
She stole it down there, fair and square.
Right?
So, hat tip to Stacey Abrams.
I'm serious.
If this guy does not step up and support this movement, and we're not saying predetermined, it's got to be for Trump, we're just saying call a special session and let's get in there with the Democrats, present the evidence.
If it convinces people, it does.
If it doesn't, then guess what?
Then Biden wins the electoral votes.
Okay?
But you've got to have a forum.
And if Kemp doesn't do it, he should be recalled.
People need to have a mechanism of which to show their pleasure more than just saying, oh, we're going to primary guy.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's in a couple of years.
Let's take action now.
So Kemp should be on notice that if he doesn't step up and call a special session, the people in Georgia should recall him.
And if Purdue and Lafleur don't step up and support the President on a special session, support the President, they're going to commit on the 6th to get to Congress in the Senate and back Tommy Tuberville to have a full vetting for two hours each of all these states.
They should, I don't know how they're going to ask Trump people to turn out.
John, we've got 30 seconds.
Give us your Twitter.
How do people follow you during the day?
john fredericks
At JF Radio Show is our Twitter.
At JF Radio Show, go to our Facebook page and follow us.
We put a lot of things there.
Facebook.com, John Frederick Show.
And subscribe to us on our YouTube channel, John Frederick Show on YouTube, and you're good to go.
Big story coming out tonight.
GeorgiaStarNews.com.
I'm David Raulston.
steve bannon
This is a blockbuster story by Michael Patrick Leahy, John Fredericks, GeorgiaStar.com.
This could shift it, because Raulston, in the story they allege, Raulston lied to the president.
He lied to the president, then lied to the legislature.
He's Speaker of the House.
Rudy's next in the War Room.
Fox City Mid, Steve Bannon, back in a minute.
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Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!
steve bannon
He's the instrument in which you fight for President Trump to make sure that we get a fair and accurate count on these votes is fighting for America, fighting for this republic, fighting for what was bequeathed to us that we fully intend to Remember, it was Franklin around the signing of the Declaration of Independence that told the woman outside of Liberty Hall, Independence Hall, that, hey, it's a republic, ma'am, if you can keep it.
And we fully intend to keep this.
By doing everything legally within our purview to make sure that all legal votes are counted and no illegal votes are counted.
And in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona, it's right there in the gun sites that this can happen.
I want to turn now to an American patriot, the gentleman who, as the head of the Southern District of New York, put away, broke the back of the five families, the five mafia families that controlled New York City for so many decades, also then smashed The basic mafia, the cartel that ran Wall Street in the 1980s.
We saw the movie Wall Street.
It was really about Rudy Giuliani's efforts to break the mob, the mafia run by Mike Milken, although I realize he's Saint Mike Milken today.
He wasn't a Saint Mike Milken back then.
Mike Milken, Ivan Boesky, and that crowd.
Okay, Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy, Mayor, here's the thing.
I think it's accurate, but I don't know.
I asked John Fredericks.
He's down in Georgia.
Last night at the Christmas party, and you know, I'm throwing out some inside baseball for our audience, Rudy and the lovely Dr. Maria Ryan were guests of the President and the First Lady at the Christmas party, but somehow Governor Kemp Governor Kemp's putting out pictures that he's... Now look, I realize he's a Republican governor and there's a certain protocol and everything like that, but yo, we're in a dogfight.
This guy refuses, refuses, refuses... And listen, I'm just throwing it out there.
You went down there, you've been sick, you've had CCP virus, you've been sick as a dog, you're on the other side of 70.
You're a fighter.
You're down there.
You do a multi-hour presentation down there of the facts.
People's heads are blowing up.
You now have got everybody fighting for you.
And Governor Kemp, I don't think he even met with you.
Didn't he have the common courtesy to meet with Rudy Giuliani?
You know what?
I go around, I see people around the world think it's a great honor to meet Rudy Giuliani.
The mayor's down there, kind of as an official representative, the president's lawyer and the official representative of the campaign to make a nine-hour presentation, and Kemp can't find it in his busy schedule, I think, to meet with you, yet he's schlepping up there on the taxpayers' money of Georgia To put his big mug in front of a Christmas tree and take a picture like it's all good.
No, Governor, it's not all good.
And I'm telling you, brother, if you don't call a special session, you're going to get recalled.
They're not going to primary you.
They're going to recall you because you deserve to be recalled.
President lit him up yesterday on Twitter.
And my God, I pray that the president lights this guy up every day.
Mayor Giuliani, what was going on last night at the Christmas party?
rudy giuliani
Well, I didn't know he was there.
I was at the White House with Maria and a few of my colleagues, and we just happened to spend the entire time in the Oval Office.
The President both wanted to talk about the case, and he really just wanted to have some pleasant conversation with friends.
It was actually very, very, you know what, he's fun.
He's a heck of a lot of fun.
And he was telling a lot of jokes.
And I would say his feelings about I guess I'm glad he didn't know that Kemp was there.
I don't know what would have happened.
He does not understand for the life of him.
How it is that this guy can't call a special session?
steve bannon
By the way, by the way, I understand the President, but do you understand?
I know the President, I know he can't get it because it's just too unbelievable, but you're a professional prosecutor.
And let's start in Georgia.
Do you understand why he's not calling it?
rudy giuliani
I only can come to one bad conclusion, Steve.
I hate to do that.
I can't imagine why a Republican governor with the most popular president in Georgia history, probably.
The governor's down to an 11% approval rating.
Who wants to be at 11% approval rating?
I'm not even sure if that's just his party or the entire state.
Half the legislators want to remove him.
They're embarrassed of him.
I think we're going to succeed in Georgia without him.
We've got a big project working in Georgia right now, right around his back.
He doesn't know what the heck is going on.
His Secretary of State is some kind of a total disaster.
I think he's becoming a Democrat.
So I don't understand these Republicans.
I mean, I hate to say this, Steve, but if the Republican Party was as loyal as the Democratic Party, we would right now have three more states.
We would have Georgia, We would have Michigan and Arizona on our side, and we'd have more electoral votes than Joe Biden.
And in our case, they won't even listen to us.
If my aunt had other equipment, she'd be my uncle.
listen to us. They won't even listen to us.
steve bannon
Mayor, but if my aunt had other equipment, she'd be my uncle. So listen, here's the point.
It's not happening right now with all this evidence.
You did 11 hours in Arizona and changed the direction of this.
You did up in Gettysburg and changed the direction of this.
You did to Lansing, Michigan and changed the direction of this.
You went to Georgia and changed the direction of this.
Your roadshow changed the direction of where we sit.
But in Maricopa County they're fighting the subpoena that you got the legislature to move Maricopa County's fighting it.
It's total crickets out of Ducey.
The only thing they understand, the reason the Democrats are disciplined, because they know how to apply discipline.
You get out of line, it's not a good thing.
Look at AOC.
You get out of line, hey AOC, sorry, not sorry, right?
What are we doing on the discipline?
What are we doing on the discipline of people like Kemp?
rudy giuliani
We met pretty much on and off all day yesterday and starting this morning there's a completely different strategy.
The strategy is going to focus a great deal on some evidence we have about some of these machines that could throw off these states in a matter of maybe a one or two day audit.
I think we can get these accomplished despite the resistance and the cover up of the Republican governors, the guy in Arizona and the guy in Georgia.
If we had their cooperation, we could have it ended by Monday.
So I'm tired of dealing with them.
We just push them aside.
And I think over the weekend, you'll see different strategies being employed that we were employing before.
I also think it's time for Republicans in those states where we have turncoat Republicans to demonstrate.
I think it's time to let the governor of Georgia know that we think he's a traitor to the Republican Party.
Not only that, he's a traitor to the sense of a fair election.
unidentified
He won't even listen to my evidence.
rudy giuliani
I mean, it'd be one thing if he said, Mayor Giuliani, I don't agree with you, but I understand you have this videotape of voters, votes you say are being stolen.
You've got these five people on video who explain how it's stolen, and it amounts to enough votes to turn the election.
Now, you might people say it's false, but let me give you the courtesy of looking at it.
What could be so bad about that?
Except they don't want to know the truth.
Or how about Arizona?
We get a warrant to search all of the machines in Maricopa County, and Maricopa County resists the warrant.
Why would you ever not want people to look at voting machines?
Voting machines aren't private.
They don't contain medical information.
They don't contain legal information.
We don't get to see who you vote for.
It's public information.
It doesn't even belong to you.
The only reason you would be resisting our examining those machines is because you know you did something crooked.
If those machines were straight as an arrow, they'd have put them out a month ago.
Are people stupid?
Don't they realize when somebody resists a subpoena to examine voting machines and we're claiming fraud and they're claiming no fraud, the person who wants to reveal it is the one who's right.
steve bannon
Mayor, hang on a second.
You said a few minutes ago that if we had this ability in a forum today, by Monday this would all be cleared up.
If you had the legislatures in Wisconsin, in Georgia, in Arizona that would actually have these hearings in a special session, what would you present That's so damning that you think it gets reversed by a vote in this legislature by Monday?
rudy giuliani
Here's what I propose to them.
It would depend on the state.
In the state of Arizona, make 200 machines available.
We can do it publicly.
You can have the press there.
Make sure we don't do any damage to the machine.
Give us eight hours and we'll show you how many false votes were in this machine.
And how it was used to manipulate the vote.
Do that in Georgia.
Do that in Arizona.
Do that in Michigan.
And do that in Pennsylvania.
And I am pretty certain we'll flip all four of those states.
But let us see the machines.
Let us examine them.
We'll examine them on television if you want.
It takes eight hours to do 22 machines.
So, we give one day to one place, one day to another.
And we're not looking at anything particularly private.
We're not looking at a person's medical record.
We're not looking at their criminal record.
We're not looking at their dental records.
We're not looking at anything but a little number that says one for Trump and one for Biden.
Or sometimes when you were voting one for Trump, you ended up voting two for Biden, which is what we want to show.
steve bannon
Besides the machines, what else would you present?
rudy giuliani
Well, then we would present, you see, I think the machines get your attention because you can't fight the machine.
If they would allow this, I could put on television a machine and I can show you how I could change the vote 14 different ways.
You shouldn't be able to change a vote in a machine.
I can show you when they re-ran the vote in Coffey County, Georgia, they got three different results, three different times.
Three different results, three different times.
This is a voting machine?
This is a voting machine designed Way back in Venezuela to fix elections.
That's why it works that way.
So we can discount these votes.
We can show you these votes belong to Trump.
They don't belong to Biden.
Now that it's easy in Atlanta, it's easy in Arizona, and it's relatively easy in Wisconsin because the margin is 10,000.
We're talking about 20 machines.
It is more difficult in Michigan and in Philadelphia because the scope of the fraud there was much larger.
They had to make up 80,000 votes and, what, 160,000.
steve bannon
But it still can be done.
Mayor, hang on a second.
If you stay through the break, we're going to take a commercial break.
Just a couple of things.
You know, Dominion's starting to fight back.
They sent a letter saying everything Sidney Powell and people are saying about these machines is absolutely incorrect, and they're going to sue if they don't stop.
Smartmatic, I think retained a lawyer, got to Fox because they rattled some cages.
The great Lou Dobbs put this thing up last night, it was Bizarroland, about some guy basically saying Smartmatic's fine, you guys are off the bat.
And Mediaite, Dan Abramsite is reporting that tonight on Judge Jeanine and tomorrow morning on Maria Bartiromo.
Guess what?
They're going to have the same codicil, or the same coda, I guess you'd say, of this thing to get away from a Smartmatic lawsuit.
So Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic take a very different point of view, Mayor, just saying that we're in an advocacy system.
They're saying, hey, you guys are not just Wrong, you're actually smearing us inadvertently.
In addition, I want to get into the other receipts.
The illegal voting and the no chain of custody.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
America's Mayor will rejoin us on the other side of this.
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steve bannon
Remember, these are fights that matter and fighting for President Trump right now, you're fighting for the United States of America, you're fighting for this republic.
It's a righteous fight, and we're never, ever, ever, ever going to concede.
Okay?
unidentified
Ever.
steve bannon
Will not happen.
We got some breaking news, or at least something out of the War Room?
unidentified
The War Room audience loves this idea to recall Kemp, and we've got some tweets going up, people saying, you know, Governor Brian Kemp, call a special session or be recalled.
It is your choice.
steve bannon
Cut to the chase.
That's what I love about this.
Most powerful audience in all media.
Kemp, either call a special session or get ready to be recalled.
Not going to worry about primary.
Your political career, by the way, you're getting very close to what I call the Christie line.
Remember the Mendoza line in baseball back in 2015?
The Christie line was when Christie left the governorship of New Jersey, given all his lies and incompetence.
He was at 9%, okay?
Kemp's at 11%.
You're getting close to the Christie line.
Once you cross that line, you never return.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
You're a one-digit midget.
Okay?
And now we're going to turn to the single-digit midget.
Okay, we're going to return now to America's mayor.
Mayor, if you said, hey, if I had a special session, if they gave me a special session, if Kemp gave me a special session, in 48 hours they would vote to reverse, to decertify their Biden electors and either certify Trump or just decertify and let the House of Representatives deal with it.
rudy giuliani
Georgia, they would certify Trump.
steve bannon
Besides your, or Certified Trump, besides the machines, what else, tell me what else you got.
What else you got there?
rudy giuliani
Sure, well of course we have the most famous film of all.
We have the film of this Ruby Freeman, who's a Democratic operative, who basically is stuffing the ballot box with about 30 or 40,000 phony votes.
You can see her do it.
She closes, throws everybody out of the room.
She doesn't realize the security cameras at the forum are on.
We didn't realize it for a week and a half.
It took us a while to get it.
And there you can see her.
I mean, you can make your own judgment about it, the way she's going about it.
It looks like a Pierce Brosnan bank heist movie.
I mean, they're looking all over the place surreptitiously.
Then they're grabbing the ballots.
Nobody's looking.
They go over, they give it to the person.
You can distinctly see them counting the ballots more than one time.
There's no reason to count any ballot more than one time.
You can distinctly see them throwing away some ballots.
And then when you go look at the count, you realize who that must be because roughly it came out 138,000 to 7,000 Biden over Trump, which was crazy.
That was the numbers they needed to catch up in Georgia.
So I say you put that together.
With the machines, you put it together with the evidence in Coffey County, where Coffey County alone, there's a 9000 vote mistake that gets you 1000 votes away from turning the election.
I think you give me two days in front of the Georgia legislature, done professionally, calling witnesses, putting on video and doing demonstrations with machines.
That legislature will vote.
To substitute Trump as the winner in Georgia, because he clearly, I think we can prove he won Georgia.
steve bannon
Okay, we only got a couple minutes, but I just want to throw it out there and have you respond, because look, the Trump movement, the Republican Party, the people love the president and are fighting for the righteousness here in this fight.
Love you, support you, and pray for you.
But of course, obviously we're an advocacy system and the Democrats disagree with that.
Right now they're saying, Rudy, you got nothing.
It's baseless.
You have no evidence.
You've run around.
You're one for 50 or one for 60 in court cases.
You can't even get standing.
Nobody wants to hear this.
Nobody wants to see it.
No legislature wants to deal with it.
No court wants to deal with it.
There's no fairy godmother in the Supreme Court that's going to come in.
There's no fairy godmother in the Insurrection Act.
You're running around and they're saying, hey, Rudy's a good guy.
He's a loyal guy.
But he's doing this because he's a friend of President Trump.
He loves President Trump.
He supports President Trump.
But they got nothing.
What do you say to that, sir?
And we've got two minutes.
What do you got?
rudy giuliani
That's part of the cover-up.
That's part of the cover-up going back to the charges against Joe Biden were debunked six months ago.
We see how true that is, right?
This is the usual Democrat propaganda.
First of all, I've only argued one case, not 50 cases.
unidentified
One.
rudy giuliani
So it's ridiculous.
We haven't lost 50 cases.
Number two, in none of those cases brought by some of our allies were we given one minute of the hearing.
They didn't want to hear evidence.
So how could the court decide a case without hearing evidence?
The only place we've been able to present evidence is the state legislatures, and it's the only place we have support for overturning this election.
And if we could get a fair two-day hearing, we could prove that he won Georgia, that he won Arizona, that he won Wisconsin, and that he won, believe it or not, Pennsylvania, And Michigan by big numbers.
We can prove it.
We have the proof.
They don't want to hear it.
steve bannon
Mayor, in one minute, does the President of the United States have the full authority to call for a special prosecutor on the election fraud and a separate special prosecutor on the Biden crime families compromised by the Chinese Communist Party?
Does he have that authority, yes or no?
rudy giuliani
He does, and he should exercise it, and he should exercise it that way.
Those are two separate things.
They're both very complicated.
They require two separate kinds of prosecutors.
And it's my advice to do it.
Absolutely.
And that's for the good of the country.
steve bannon
Since he follows your advice, why has this not happened?
rudy giuliani
You know, the White House, one person's advice goes through a I don't know what I call it.
Puzzle Palace, of other people's advice.
They have valid ideas also, but I would say I'm more confident it will happen than it will not happen.
steve bannon
Mayor, how do people get to your podcast?
How do they get to your Twitter?
We've got about 30 seconds.
Give us your podcast address and your Twitter.
rudy giuliani
RuizCommonsense.com.
You can go on there right now with a nice review of the evidence against Hunter Biden.
And then tomorrow, Dr. Ryan and I are on between 10 and 11, and of course we'll be discussing this in great detail.
steve bannon
That's W-A-B-C.
rudy giuliani
W-A-B-C.
steve bannon
Every Sunday morning in New York City, you can get it up on their app and listen to Dr. Maria Ryan.
rudy giuliani
You can get to call in from the app.
It's great.
steve bannon
It's a fabulous show, and the podcast's amazing.
His Twitter will put it all up.
Mayor, thank you very much.
Dr. Ryan, thank you for saying the stop.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
rudy giuliani
See you soon.
steve bannon
Two great Americans.
Two great Americans, two patriots fighting.
Rudy needs one presentation.
48 hours, it's done.
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