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Bannons WarRoom Ep 574: Stone Cold Lies (w/ Eastman, Epshteyn, Posobiec, Farash, Kassam, and Hoft)
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Right there you have it, one of the senior personages from CNN.
Poisonous intent, accusing partisans of trying to destroy democracy and of high crimes.
Live from our nation's capital, you're in the War Room.
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OK, we've got to get down to it right now.
We're honored We've got Miranda Devine from The Post, we've got Joe Hoffman from Gateway Pundit, Jack Posobiec from One American News, Boris Epstein from The Campaign, Raheem Kassam, our co-host, will be here with an analysis of the polling.
We also have some, we want to talk a little bit about the YouTube situation, we'll get into all that, but we've got the President's lawyer, John Eastman, Senior Fellow of the Claremont Institute, Claremont Institute being one of the great intellectual centers In the Judeo-Christian West.
John Eastman, thank you very much for joining us.
John, the first question I've got for you is that you've actually, this Texas situation's come up with the Attorney General of Texas and that's gotten a lot of the momentum or the publicity or it's gotten Cuomo and Meltdown.
But as the President's Attorney, you've been actually working on coming at this from an angle along these lines for several weeks.
You can tell this by your filing.
Can you walk us through what your logic is, why you came to this conclusion, and what's the direction of your lawsuit?
unidentified
So, the logic is very simple.
Article 2 of the Constitution assigns plenary power to the legislatures of the states to decide the manner of choosing electors.
They do that by passing statutes.
And in the four states that were sued by Texas, executive officials, or in collaboration with judicial officials, or in response to Democrat lawsuits, unilaterally changed the statutes on how those elections would be conducted.
That's both illegal under state law, but it's also unconstitutional under federal law.
And just to give you a couple of examples, in Georgia they entered into a consent decree several months before the election.
Changing the signature verification process that the legislature had set out.
Why is that important?
Because it's a very important protection against fraud by people submitting absentee ballots who are not actually the voter on whose behalf the ballots are being submitted.
They got rid of that double check of signatures in the consent decree.
That means those ballots were processed illegally.
And to the extent they didn't actually represent the voters, and we had testimony in Georgia that they didn't, then that may well have affected the outcome of the election.
In Pennsylvania, they changed the deadline for return of ballots.
That's illegal.
They discarded voter identification and signature verification requirements to ensure that the ballots that were being processed were actually being cast by legal voters.
All of those things call into serious question the validity of these elections.
And it's a federal constitutional issue because of Article 2 and Supreme Court precedent, both in Bush v. Gore and an 1892 case called McPherson v. Blecker, that the sole authority to decide the manner for choosing electors is vested in the legislature of the state, not anybody else.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So you've got Pennsylvania, you've got Georgia, you've also got Michigan and Wisconsin.
What's your beef in Michigan?
unidentified
Well, in Michigan, they discarded deadlines, they discarded voter ID, they allowed... I'm sorry, I don't have the thing right in front of me, whether this was Michigan or Wisconsin.
They also allowed people to claim that they were indefinitely confined when they weren't.
The reason that's significant is they ignored their voter identification requirements.
So all of these statutory measures are put into place to protect against fraud.
And what we know is the most susceptible to fraud aspect of voting, and that is absentee voting.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So, John, here's the question, though.
All of the ones that the suit's against are all Republican legislatures, and a couple of them have Republican executives, right?
And particularly in Georgia, I think it is.
Last time I looked, the Republican Party, and led by intellectuals like you, and practitioners like you, and Mark Levin, and Ted Cruz, and others, are supposed to be the Constitutional Party.
How did we end up On the 10th of December.
Having a guy like John Eastman, with his brilliance, come together, work on this thing, after the election, when this stuff has been out there for a while.
Is it some technical reason they couldn't be brought?
And how did this happen with Republican state legislators?
Don't they know their constitutional duty?
Don't these guys have very smart lawyers that opine?
Because, you know, in Pennsylvania, you pass this law, then the Supreme Court changed it.
In Georgia, you had Roethlisberger and these guys down there, and now these senators saying, There's a bigger issue here about exactly kind of how to go on and how did Jon Eastman ride in like the cavalry, you know, after the fact to try to sort this thing out?
unidentified
Well, I will say this.
I was down, you know, some of the three critical weeks I was down with COVID.
So that may explain part of my late entry to the game.
But I will say this, early on I did a legal analysis advising the legislatures of what their legal authorities were here.
It's odd because, you know, we just don't anticipate that the legislature has final say on something like this.
When they've delegated their power to choose electors to a popular vote of the state, they think that's the end of the matter.
But as the Supreme Court noted in Bush versus Gore, When they've delegated the power of choosing electors to a popular vote, the right to vote is fundamental when it is done in accord with the procedures set out by the legislature.
That's the critical issue that most of these legislators were missing.
And federal law, when there's an invalid election conducted and you therefore don't have a proper ascertainment of the results, federal law very clearly says the legislature gets to reclaim its power To decide how to choose the electors.
It could do that by holding a new election.
It could do that by assessing the results of the election itself.
But these are powers that haven't been exercised by legislatures for a very long time and I think they've kind of gotten forgotten in the dustbin of history.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So you had Paxton and you had the team down in Texas coming out in a slightly different angle.
Why do you merge these two?
Why did you intervene?
I think there's 18 states now, but those 18 states are writing, correct me if I'm wrong, amicus briefs.
I don't think they've come in to the lawsuit technically.
You actually have.
I guess a co-plaintiff, or you've intervened.
The President's counsel in his suit has intervened now in Texas.
Number one, why would you combine, and number two, shouldn't the other states pile in here and do more than just, you know, cheerlead from the side and write amicus briefs?
unidentified
Well, I understand there are lots of conversations swirling around about just that question.
Look, why Texas, or why the states?
The Constitution gives the Supreme Court exclusive and original jurisdiction Over suits by states against other states.
That's supposed to be a mandatory jurisdiction that they take up an original matter.
Other people, like an individual citizen, and President Trump here is suing in his individual capacity as a candidate, can invoke original jurisdiction when the state is a party, but the states also have the ability to claim immunity from those cases.
So Texas has the clear-cut path toward jurisdiction, and President Trump Has the most clear-cut direct injury.
Texas has made a very compelling argument on why their voters are harmed as a result of illegal conduct done in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Georgia.
But President Trump's injury is even more direct.
And so I think the combination of the two is a very powerful case.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Has that been explained so far?
That makes sense.
You're saying the combination here because their jurisdiction and your injury adds up.
That's real synergy.
That's 2 plus 2 equals 10 in this case.
I haven't seen any of the analysts right now who are going out of their way to dump on Texas and then dump on you personally.
Has anybody gone through this?
Any legal experts gone through that and come to that conclusion also?
unidentified
No.
They're more dumping on the fact that my research team and I missed the 1960 election that Ohio and Florida went for Nixon and he lost, when we said never in history has somebody won those two states and lost.
That was completely immaterial, of course, but that's what everybody's focused on.
It's silliness.
The other significant point of these lawsuits, and I will say this, the Supreme Court has, I think incorrectly, but said that even on state-on-state litigation, they get to decide whether to take those cases.
And so Texas technically has a motion for leave to file its bill of complaint and we technically have a motion for leave to intervene so the Supreme Court will have to decide whether to let us get in and get to the merits.
I hope they do because obviously it's an extremely important case and an extremely important set of issues.
Violations of state law runs contrary to the Constitution when you're talking about the choosing of presidential electors and when those violations have created a significant enough number of votes that are now suspects It throws the very results of the election into dispute.
Look, as we put in our brief, nearly half of the country, including 30% of Democrats, according to a Rasmussen poll, Think that the election was likely or very likely stolen.
I mean, that's just extraordinary.
And we ought not to be allowing that to happen.
And I think the Supreme Court, if it looks at the evidence and looks at the state law violations, I think can go a long way in resolving the angst that the country has over the results of this election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
No, we're going to talk about this in the next hour, and the buried lead in this new Fox poll that came out this morning is not the Fox viewers, that 20%, it's 51% of the country thinks it was fair, 49% of the country does not.
This is a scar that will not heal right now, and this is why we've said from day one, Joe Biden and his team, if they want to unify the country, they have to start working with people like you to get to the bottom of what actually happened here.
John, can we have you hold, we're going to go through a short commercial break, can we actually have you hold over for a minute?
I've got a couple more questions.
One question though, we've got about a minute.
In this segment.
The Supreme Court, I think, the states that you are suing, is it 3 o'clock this afternoon to put their counter briefs in?
Is that the time frame?
unidentified
3 o'clock eastern time this afternoon, yes.
For the four states.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And what do you anticipate is going to be filed at that time?
unidentified
Well, I think they're going to urge that, you know, the court to decline jurisdiction, saying there's nothing here, there's nothing, there's nothing to see here, move on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
But the fact of the matter is... Can they argue that the pandemic and the COVID, and you obviously know how serious this is, that the pandemic caused emergency power, so this was all done in some emergency measure?
unidentified
Well, you know, the emergency powers, as the Supreme Court has now said in a couple of important COVID-related cases, doesn't give you the right to ignore the Constitution.
And I think that's true here as well.
It was very easy, if they thought they needed to have an emergency alteration to their state laws, to ask the legislature to pass it.
And Democrats did that in some states.
But when they didn't think that the legislature would go along, and this is trying to fulfill a long-standing dream of Democrats, to just flood it with absentee ballots, so the fraud is hard to prove.
And using the COVID as an excuse, I think, is intolerable.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
John, just hang on for one second.
Short commercial break.
John Eastman, the lawyer for the President, now has intervened into the Texas suit.
We're going to get to all that.
We're going to take a short break, sell some commercials, pay for the show, and we'll be back with John Eastman and Boris Epstein next.
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Maggie Evandenberg is our co-host.
She's in studio back from the West Coast on assignment and now she's got a lot to report.
We're going to get to Maggie a little later in the show.
I want to return now to John Eastman, the President's lawyer, in this amazing lawsuit that's been dropped and kind of combined with the Texas, with the state of Texas lawsuit.
John, you said before the break that there's discussions going on.
Walk the audience through, what's the difference between kind of being a cheerleader from the side and supporting and writing amicus briefs and actually coming in to intervene like the President did as an individual, as a candidate?
How important is that for other states?
Because right now you have basically a third of the states of the country have somehow shown support.
What's the difference for our audience in actually coming in and joining into this suit versus just writing an amicus brief?
unidentified
Well, you know, the more states you have in it, the more serious I think the court recognizes the case is.
And so, in intervening, sends a message about that much stronger than just an amicus brief.
An amicus brief is important, don't get me wrong, and the arguments they make will be important.
But actually being parties to the case, it just expands the number of people who have claimed injury as a result of the illegal conduct that occurred.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We have been, and you're an expert on this, but this pandemic and the Democrats' use of this to get to their nirvana for them, which is mail-in ballots, do you believe we're hurtling towards a constitutional crisis or are we already there?
unidentified
We're already there.
Look, we've known for a long time that there's illegal voting in a number of elections.
And in close elections, it often makes for the difference.
People have not taken this kind of concern seriously.
But absentee balloting from the Carter Commission, the Carter-Baker Commission, you know, after the 2000 election, absentee balloting is a huge risk for fraud.
And people that would, you know, look, I mean, the amount of power and the amount of money that results from elections is just so great.
The notion that people on at least one side of the aisle wouldn't be committing fraud is where it would be a surprise.
But the question is, can in a democracy where the vote of the people has to be the thing that controls the direction of government, can we allow that fraud to persist?
And I think what's happening here is the first serious pushback we've seen in decades.
I wish that it happened years ago.
But we know, for example, that, look, when you've got evidence that there are more absentee ballots than absentee ballot envelopes, somebody dumped a pile of ballots into the system.
When you've got evidence that, you know, at 3 o'clock in the morning, there's a massive dump of 100% or 98% for one candidate and almost nothing for another, that's pretty strong evidence of fraud.
The statistical analysis here tell us that, you know, one in a trillion chance that some of these things actually happened.
So the pervasiveness of this is just stunning.
And the fact that President Trump and others are pushing back on it to expose what we've all known has been going on for a while.
Look, how many have laughed about dead people voting in Chicago?
Well, the fact of the matter is that's illegal and yet it's been going on.
You know, how many have laughed about the fact that people moved out of Las Vegas And six months later are still voting in Nevada.
And maybe casting double votes in the state where they went.
You know, we've got evidence of more than 20,000, I think is the number in Georgia, of people that had voted well after they were legally allowed to vote because they had moved.
So these are the kind of frauds that call into question the very nature of our elections and therefore the control of the sovereign people of their government.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
John, there's a lot of people on the left in the mainstream media, Cuomo and all the guys I've seen, they're dismissing this, you know, they don't want to talk about it, which does us always a tell, when they don't want to get into the details, that they're afraid.
But their dismissal is that the court will never take it up.
My question to you is that we're going to see in the next 24-48 hours whether the court takes this up or not.
But how can the court not take this up?
If they don't take this up, this is going to be in hang fire.
You guys have presented, and I'm not saying the evidence is 100% correct, that's what a trial's for.
You've presented overwhelming evidence from your point of view that changes, and the constitutional questions.
How can the court, if the court does not take this up, We're kind of being in a permanent constitutional crisis until somehow this thing gets sorted out.
There will always be a cloud over 2020 where half of the nation sits there and says, this was stolen.
How can the court not take this case up?
unidentified
Well, not only how can the court not case it up, but I would think that Vice President Biden would want to take it up as well.
I mean, you know, if it's really true, as they keep saying, you know, I mean, they repeat it often enough.
It's like the old story.
If you repeat the big lie often enough, people will start to believe it.
They keep saying, despite the evidence to the contrary, the hard evidence to the contrary, there's no evidence here of any fraud.
Well, that's just nonsense.
There's lots of evidence.
And you would think it was as much in their interest to get to the bottom of it.
If it was not significant enough to have altered the results of the election, then they should be jumping on board with President Trump and Texas to say, let's look at this stuff seriously, because we will be deemed an illegitimate president if we win under these circumstances.
We have got to get to the bottom of this.
And anybody that had faith in the election system and wanted to make sure that it was a fairly and legally conducted election, Should be joining in that effort, not opposing it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We had the Safe Harbor on Tuesday.
We have the Electoral College that's supposed to meet in the different state capitals with the electors on Monday.
Can you, last question, anticipating the timing here, do you have any idea when the court, after 3 o'clock today, get the information from the states that you guys are going after?
Do you have any anticipation of how long this is going to take for them to make a decision whether they take this up or not?
unidentified
I don't know the answer to that.
Obviously setting the return deadline for the defendant states of 3 o'clock today was very significant.
They're taking it seriously and they're taking the timing seriously.
But look, if we have slates of electors that cast votes on December 14th that are illegally certified, I think the court can still remedy that all the way up to the joint session of Congress on January 6th and even up to the constitutional deadline of inaugurating a new president on January 20th.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
John Eastman, how do people follow you during the day?
Do you have Twitter, Parler?
How do people get access to you?
unidentified
Oh yeah, I've got a Twitter account.
It's gone crazy here.
Dr. John Eastman.
People can certainly send me any suggestions they have.
I've got an account on Parler as well.
I think it's just John Eastman.
I forget what that one is.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We'll put it up on the screen in the next segment.
John, thank you very much for taking time.
I know you're very busy today.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
Take care.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The cavalry finally arrived.
Okay, Boris Epstein.
Boris has been the guy, day in and day out, hammering away with Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, in this fight across multiple states.
Boris, you just heard, and I knew that Eastman had been working on this, and the team had been working on this for weeks and weeks and weeks.
It's come to fruition.
But I want to go back to the particulars, Boris, of where you guys are focused on, and particularly in Georgia.
I believe, actually, there's a hearing that's going to start at 10.30, I think that Rudy's going to be part of.
Walk us through, you just dropped another bombshell late last night in Georgia.
What's going on?
unidentified
Georgia, the hearing is starting at 11 a.m., and the one and only Mayor Giuliani is going to be there.
Steve, great to be with you, as always, and your viewers and listeners.
Professor Eastman knocked it out of the park.
There's a ton, a ton of excitement.
I can tell you, having been in the White House yesterday, a ton of excitement about this Texas lawsuit on Georgia.
The Georgia lawsuit filed last week has now become public and it's laying out huge numbers of allegedly fraudulent votes cast in Georgia, up to 453,000 votes.
453,000 votes cast by felons, underage voters, unregistered voters, folks who registered to vote in another state after the Georgia registration date, folks who filed a formal change of address to Election Day prior to Election Day.
Think about this.
In Georgia, the difference is about 13,000.
15,700 people filed a formal change of address before Election Day.
Over 40,000 people moved to a different county and voted without re-registering in that county in Georgia.
So, a huge array of problems in Georgia.
Obviously, we've all seen that video.
Now, the mainstream media wants to cover it up and say, oh, well, they were just regular ballot box suitcases that were brought out in the middle of the night with nobody there to supervise or inspect.
We cannot be fooled here.
We know what the left has been perpetrating, and as Professor Eastman said to you, there's been a long tradition of voter fraud in this country.
It stops now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What, um, Wisconsin, the hearing's going to be today, the counterparty's got a file at the Supreme Court, I mean, the intensity of this is picking up.
Last question, because I know you jumped for time, you've got to get with Rudy on this, on Georgia, but the fourth, Monday the 14th is the Electoral College.
Professor Eastman said, hey, if these things have come together illegally, it doesn't matter, we're going to blow through that date, we're going to blow through the 23rd of December, we're going to blow through the 6th of January.
The only thing the Constitution says is high noon on the 20th, and even the high noon on the 20th, the worst case there is that the Speaker of the House is the acting President until one of the two individuals that got electoral votes, either Biden or Trump, is selected President in some contingent election.
So, from your perspective as one of the leaders of this effort for the President, walk us through it.
Are you guys just powering through this thing all the way to January 20th?
unidentified
Well, I like to remind people that everyone was saying that this December 8th date was set in stone, it was the Holy Grail, and as I said to you on the evening of December 7th, it doesn't matter.
Well, guess what?
December 8th came and went now two, three days ago, and here we are, continuing to power through, and a new major lawsuit has been filed, the one by Texas, with other states now joining and supporting.
I'm going to bet you the same thing's going to happen with December 14th.
And the first real substantive date, as Professor Eastman said, is that January 6th.
But really, that is not nearly as hard of a date as that date of January 20th at high noon.
And again, as you point out, the Constitution provides for contingencies in that case as well.
The point here is not about dates, it's about making sure this election is won by the person who got the most legal votes in the states, who gets the most electors based on the most legal votes.
That is the point of what we're doing, that is our mission here, and I believe it's a righteous one.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, Boris, we got about 15 seconds.
How do people follow you during the day on Instagram and Parler and Twitter?
unidentified
My Instagram continues blowing up.
Boris underscore Epstein.
Add Boris if you're on Twitter.
Add Boris Parler.
God bless.
Rock and roll.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, good luck today in Georgia.
Also Wisconsin.
unidentified
Thanks so much.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to be talking about Wisconsin specifically.
Jack Posovic, One American News is going to join us after the break.
And we're going to go up to Beth Page to the protest.
unidentified
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Well, thanks, Sean.
And what Laura said about the Texas case is true because the state of Wisconsin, the clerks, didn't follow the law.
Wisconsin's a little different because it's not about whether someone hauled in $50,000 You know, ballots in a U-Haul trailer.
What Wisconsin is about is whether the clerks and the people responsible for conducting the election conducted it in an illegal manner.
I've been fighting this situation here in Wisconsin for 20 years, but it culminated this time with three things.
I'll give you three examples.
Number one, The clerks decided that they were going to have in-person absentee ballot voting to create a system in Wisconsin which doesn't exist, which is early vote.
Except in Wisconsin law, it's very clear and it's unequivocal that absentee ballot is not A right.
It's a privilege, which means you have to follow the rules.
And they didn't follow the rules.
They didn't have absentee ballot applications.
Number two.
So they created this entire system of people showing up, voting early, but not following absentee ballot rules.
That's number one.
Number two.
The clerks decided, instructed by the Wisconsin Election Commission, to fill out parts of the absentee ballot envelopes for the particular voters.
And what the state law says is unequivocal.
It says that that ballot, if that happens, should not be counted.
Number three, the clerks set up an in-person ballot system in Dane County, where they went to parks.
They set up picnic tables everywhere.
And the Dane County Clerk decided because of COVID that if you wanted to declare yourself indefinitely confined, which is usually for, you know, unfortunate elderly people in this country that can't get out of nursing homes, you could declare yourself indefinitely confined contrary to the state law.
without a photo ID and show up and vote.
And so this is about, and by the way, this was, these are things that have been getting worse and worse and worse over time in Wisconsin.
The Milwaukee Police Department many years ago issued a report and you can find it, it's 70 some pages long, it talks about all of these kinds of problems, not these specific ones because these are a lot worse, but the kinds of things of people not enforcing the law, felons voting, felons being hired to be election inspectors, it goes on and on. The point is, Sean, it is true.
That in the case of Wisconsin, this is about the state itself and its people in force with conducting the election, not following the law.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Which is amazing, too!
unidentified
And the Democrats don't have a response.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, that is Reince Priebus.
That is the most succinct, I think even better job than I've done over the last couple weeks, are Jack Posobiec.
That is the most succinct analysis.
They are caught dead to rights in Wisconsin, and this is why the mainstream media will not follow this case.
It's up before the Supreme Court.
of Wisconsin last week when the Supreme Court said we're not going to hear.
It was not a loss.
As you remember, we've talked about the justices there said, hey, what has happened here with these clerks in this election?
Remember, Bill McGinley, election administration.
They got caught dead to rights cheating illegal ballots in Wisconsin, bringing Jack Posobiec from One American News has just done such an amazing job of covering this.
And Posobiec, I think it was on Periscope or Facebook, your five hours weeks ago that showed the fight at the Election Commission with Knudsen and Spindoll would not back up.
People should take this than the Republican Party and look at the guys of Wisconsin.
Look, they're not all Trump crazies.
They're not all deplorables.
Some of these are just even rhinos.
But they are sticking to the letter of the law and the way elections should be administered.
They are to be complimented and praised.
They are heroes and against intense, intense hate.
They are refusing to back down.
Jack Posobiec, where do we stand in Wisconsin today?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, Steve, and that was incredible what Ryan said.
I mean, it was just very succinct.
And as you know, I've been talking about Wisconsin a long time here.
One of the reasons that I talked about it is that when I started, and Wisconsin was not on the top of my list.
I mean, I'm a Pennsylvania guy.
I was looking at Pennsylvania very closely, and we still are, of course.
I had a lot of people who approached me behind the scenes and said, Jack, Wisconsin is the one.
You really have to look at this case.
You really have to look at what the law says versus what the guidelines, the governor did and the rest.
Everything up there says this is a rock solid case.
And if you look into the statements of these judges, um, there's, so there's this guy, Brian Hagdorn, and he's a nominally a Republican on the Supreme court.
And I was pretty, and the Republicans have, uh... four-seat majority on the wisconsin supreme court but this guy always sides with the liberals but what's interesting is in all of these cases specifically this one but you're starting to see this trend now that judges are looking to find ways to get out of it that don't actually we saw it in nevada yesterday that don't actually deal with the They'll say, well, the remedy is too extreme, right?
And that means the canceling of so many ballots, right?
They say the remedies, it's too many.
The number, it scares them, makes them skittish.
They think it's too high.
Or they'll find some kind of procedural way to kick it back to a lower court.
And that's what you saw in the Supreme Court of Wisconsin.
The last time this went through.
So what you're seeing today, they're double teaming.
It's a tag team of hearings today in Wisconsin.
You've got one at the state level, one at the federal level.
That one at the state level is the one that was at the Supreme Court.
It was kicked back down.
Now it's going back up again.
That's when it gets into what you just talked about and what Ryan's talked about, the curing of ballots and the indefinite confinement.
These are issues where the state itself was not following its own laws.
It's clear as day.
It's clear of the plain text.
And you can see that the judges know this.
And that's why they're trying to find any way they can to get out of it other than actually dealing with what happened in Wisconsin.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to go back to that hearing a couple weeks ago.
This is important for the audience, because Reince refers to them as the clerks.
The clerks.
This is what Bill McGinley said.
It's not just voter fraud, it is election fraud and election administration.
The clerks, the apparatchiks, made their own decisions.
But go back, go back to that commission.
And we've seen so many of these commissions crater.
Nice people, but when the heat got put on in Michigan, they cratered.
In Wisconsin, the Iron Brigade would not crater.
Knudsen and Spindol.
Talk about, I think it was three weeks ago, and what the Democrats tried to do, and it took hours, I think it was six hours, you had a million views at the end of this.
You were giving commentary.
They tried to change the manual during that.
If these guys had cratered that night, we wouldn't be here today with having them nailed dead to rights.
Is that correct?
Is that correct, Pasovic?
Walk us through what happened that night where they did not fold.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Because I actually, I caught that CNN tried to write a hit piece on me for, for my commentary.
I actually just found out about it yesterday.
They wrote it three weeks ago.
I didn't notice because nobody cares about CNN anymore.
But I happened to see it and they said, and they said Posobiec was promoting allegations of fraud.
And I said, hold on a second.
I'm giving commentary on the specific hearing that's happening right now, yeah, I'm commenting on things, but I'm presenting both sides of the argument, and then I'm just sort of talking my viewers through what's going on, right? You know, I'm not alleging anything, but they were so scared of that view, view count that I got, the million viewers, because it's so much more viewers than they're getting these days, that they said, well, we've got to do something about Pacific.
We've got to do something.
So just in case our readers don't watch it.
And that's really the way the media is split right now.
It's it's their side versus our side.
That's why, you know, when when the Hunter Hunter Biden news breaks, everyone on our side knows about it because we've known about it for months.
And everyone on CNN side is why would Hunter Biden be under investigation?
Right.
So when you look at what happened in that Wisconsin hearing, Bob Spindell and Dean Knudsen stood tall for the rule of law by simply citing the laws, the statutes, back to them, chapter and verse.
And every time that these liberals tried their virtue signaling, you know, moral high ground, social justifying ways at them, they said, look, That's one thing, but we're going to put that over here.
You didn't follow the law.
You didn't follow the rules.
You can't just change these things.
You know who else said that?
That was something that Alito and I believe Gorsuch wrote in a very recently in one of those lockdown rulings that came down on Cuomo where he said, look, you can't just change the law and go beyond your mandate as an executive official, okay?
We have these laws for a reason.
You can't just make them up.
You can't just use a pandemic to create all sorts of new statutes that don't exist, right?
We do these things in a limited fashion.
You have these powers, you cannot override them.
And this is checks and balances, Steve.
This is basic checks and balances.
So we're gonna need the judicial branch here to step up a little bit and say, look guys, It is.
These executives went far beyond their legislative mandate.
It's time for you to roll it back and put them in the place where they're supposed to.
We have elections in this country for a reason, and the reason that we hold these elections the way we do is called following procedure, making sure everything's done on the up and up.
If this type of stuff was going on in Venezuela or Belarus, Mike Pompeo and the rest of the State Department would rightly be calling them out.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let's go to the math.
There's a story up about Fox viewers, 20%, but the buried lead, and I think it's a Daily Cause online poll they're quoting from, only 51% of the American people now think this was fair, and basically the country split 50-50.
Where do you see this math going as more, particularly as the argument for Wisconsin comes out, as the Supreme Court takes up the Texas in the President's case, where do you see this going as far as the nation becoming awakened to the fact That this was stolen.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Well, Steve, we've seen a balkanization of American media in the past four years, and now we're seeing a balkanization of opinion on this election.
And this is a huge issue for us as a country.
Half of the country is saying that, yeah, Joe Biden might look like he's up for inauguration, but we don't know if he got there right.
You know, it's like when the Astros won the World Series, but then we found out that they were stealing signs, right?
Yeah, they got the rings, but should the rings be given back, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And by the way, we're not debating, we're going to get to the YouTube part of it in the next hour with Rahim, we're not debating the fact that, hey, we had the safe harbor.
All the states, I think, officially designate this.
Our complaint, our big issue has been about these Republican states that haven't done, that really haven't done They've fulfilled their fiduciary responsibility, done their due diligence on exactly what's happening, because now, and in Wisconsin is a perfect example, it's at the Supreme Court and they're still arguing about it, right?
Really, it jumps in here today.
Jack, we've got about a minute.
Where do you see Wisconsin going today?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
I think today that you are going to see Wisconsin have to face some hard truths in these hearings as to what went down.
And we're going to see whether or not these judges are actually going to side with the own laws of their state, or if they are going to legislate from the bench or go beyond their mandate as judges to execute the laws, to interpret the laws and apply the laws.
And I think that if you see that, specifically in Wisconsin, specifically, you will have to side with the rule of law that says they did not follow the statutes in terms of this election.
There's going to be a huge asterisk on this.
Wouldn't be surprised if they kick it back to the legislature.
You've already seen a couple of rumblings like that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, Jack Posobiec, how do people get to you during the day?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Twitter, at Jack Posobiec, J-C-K-P-O-S-O-B-I-E-C, same at the parlor and also now on Rumble.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
How's the baby?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Baby's amazing.
He's kind of chill.
He's actually really chill.
He's been pretty quiet and he loves the Christmas tree.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Loves the lights.
Takes after his mom, no doubt.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Okay, short cultural break.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thanks, Jack, for taking time away to join us today.
Okay, we're going to Bethpage, New York.
Where is this trailer?
YouTube, help us!
Help us find this trailer.
That's what we want to do.
We want to find the trailer from the Postal Service.
Next.
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War Room.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
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The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And here's my co-host, Fog City Midge, who's now back in the saddle again after taking some time on the West Coast.
Walk us through, the President of the United States is lighting up the Secretary of State of Georgia, is he not?
unidentified
He is.
He tweeted, people are upset and they have a right to be.
Georgia not only supported Trump in 2016, but now.
This is the only state in the Deep South that went for Biden Have they lost their minds?
This is going to escalate dramatically.
This is a very dangerous moment in our history.
The fact that our country is being stolen.
A coup is taking place in front of our eyes and the public can't take this anymore.
And then he attributes this quote to a Trump fan at a Georgia rally on OAN.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, the great Lin Wood has just put out a video.
He's saying that the Georgia's corrupt Secretary of State has declined to testify at this hearing that's going on starting at 11 o'clock in a few minutes.
That's what Boris Epstein had to jump on.
Rudy Giuliani's going to be there.
The Secretary of State of Georgia has declined To testify in front of the Georgia House today.
That's where we are right now with these corrupt Republican officials.
I want to go now, talk about corruption, I want to go now to an American citizen, another hero, Sean Farish up in Bethpage, New York.
Sean, you're the organizer of a rally that's going to take place outside this Postal Center today in Bethpage, New York.
There's going to be hundreds of people there.
Why are people outside of a postal center in Bethpage, New York on a beautiful December day when the holidays are here?
What are you guys doing besides causing trouble?
unidentified
Well, we're known as the loud majority.
We're not silent anymore.
And we heard the story with the whistleblower Jesse Morgan, who took a truckload of about 280,000 ballots from Bethpage, New York to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
We saw his sworn testimony, and nobody has debunked it yet.
Um, you know, and obviously it would be pretty easy to do so with cameras and whatnot at these loading docks.
A trailer full of ballots for Pennsylvania was shipped from New York and then disappeared in Pennsylvania.
So, as the loud majority does, we make a lot of noise when we want answers.
We, the people, demand answers, transparency.
And we want to preserve the republic that we love, and in order to do that, we need to make sure that we're voting in free and fair elections.
We're calling on the FBI to look into what happened here, because this has gone beyond just an irregularity.
This is something that could compromise the security of our elections, not just now, but in future years.
And if we can't have confidence in our elections, we can't have confidence in our republic, and the America that we know and love will have been lost, and we will not let that happen, certainly not quietly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So Sean, let me ask you, you're at the Postal Center today in Bethpage, and nobody can figure out what the heck, Jesse picks up his trailer at Bethpage, packed with ballots, 144,000 to 288,000 I think is the approximation, he's driving all over Pennsylvania, he can't get guidance, and then the trailer ends up missing, and all the investigators, as Jesse's reported on this show a couple times, all the investigators are all over, hey Jesse, Really, how did you meet Phil Kline and the Thomas More Society?
How did you get on national TV?
Why are you doing stuff like on War Room instead of helping like where to find where the trailer is?
Today you're at the Postal Center.
Have postal officials, have you reached out to those guys?
Are they being cooperative and trying to get to some answers so that citizens in New York and around the country that are outside there protesting get some sort of feeling that somebody's taking this seriously?
unidentified
No, well obviously the common theme here is nobody's asking the right questions and that includes the mainstream media.
Nobody's asking the right questions, nobody's trying to get to the bottom of what happened except for we the people.
We the people are the only ones that are stepping up to the plate and trying to get these things done.
Folks like yourself, this wonderful podcast and everything.
We just heard Jack Posobiec, all the wonderful conservative media giving the facts.
We're trying to get to the bottom of this because we care.
These people, I mean, the media and a lot of these officials that, you know, we're trying to get answers from, it just seems like they're so complicit that they want to just cover it up and gaslight their guy into the White House.
Again, we're not going to let it happen.
We have had no communication or cooperation from authorities.
So we're going to, you know, we're going to get outside of that postal center, that distribution center today, 288 Grumman Road West, Bethpage, New York, from 4 to 6 p.m.
We're going to be outside there demanding answers, showing people that, yeah, we're in a blue state.
Doesn't matter.
There's still a lot of supporters.
We took 10,000 cars to Montauk Point in October.
You know, our same group, Loud Majority.
We want answers and we're going to make a whole lot of noise until we get them.
And you're either going to cooperate or you're just going to keep hearing from us.
And, you know, eventually the will of the people can't be denied.
This is America.
If we do not consent, We will not comply.
We are supposed to be governed by the people.
We're not supposed to live under some tyrannical rule, which is unfortunately what's been going on.
So we're upset, and we want answers, and that's what we're ultimately looking for.
Someone's got to take this seriously.
The FBI's got to take this seriously.
We're taking it more seriously than the people who are supposed to be enforcing these election laws, and that's a shame.
But we're trying to right the ship here, and that's exactly what the point of today is.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
The War Room is going to be live.
We're going to go live at 5 o'clock to this rally.
Give details again.
Anybody that wants to join you, any citizen of any party, any race, religion, creed, this is about being American citizens standing up for free and fair elections.
Sean, how did they get access to you to find out more about this protest?
Do they want to come down and either participate or just observe?
unidentified
Sure.
So you can find us on Facebook.
The group is called LILM 2.0.
The problem is we're getting censored heavily on Facebook.
So the best place to find us is a website called OurFreedomBook.com.
We're there under Long Island Loud Majority.
We're also on Parler and Twitter at LILM Majority.
My personal handle, Parler, is at Sean, S-H-A-W-N, Farish, F-A-R-A-S-H.
Twitter, same thing.
It's just Sean underscore F-A-R ASH on Twitter those and then Instagram you could find us at Long Island Loud Majority will also be live streaming at youtube.com slash Long Island Loud Majority straight through no spaces and you'll be able to see it if you want to participate 288 Grumman Road West 4 p.m.
to 6 p.m.
tonight peaceful protest you know what we've been doing for the last 13 weeks and and we want this to be as loud as it's ever been Okay, Sean, we're going to get all that and put it up in the live stream and hashtag War and Pandemic.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We will help drive a crowd there.
This is very important.
A peaceful yet loud protest in front of the Postal Center.
Sean, you're an American patriot and American hero.
Keep up the work.
unidentified
Thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Sean Farish.
Okay, we're jammed for time once again, so what we're going to do is take a short commercial break.
We're going to set the next episode, bring Raheem Kassam in, talk about YouTube and also about the polling.
Also, Joe Hoft from the Gateway Pundit.
One of the best sites out there.
His brother Joe Hoff and Jim Hoff just killing it out in St.
unidentified
Louis.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Joe Hoff, he's a former banker, financial analyst.
He's looked at Arizona and said, something does not make sense here.
Something does not make sense in the math.
Maggie Vanderberg, Fog City Midge, be my co-host.
Join me for the second hour.
We're going to get Jack Maxey talking about his favorite, the hard drive from hell of Hunter Biden, and of course, Miranda Devine from the New York Post, the one who started it all in motion.
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