Nov. 25, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Thrilled with what's happened on the vaccine front. | ||
| That's been absolutely incredible. | ||
| Nothing like that has Ever happened medically, and I think people are acknowledging that, and it's having a big effect. | ||
| But the stock market's just broken 30,000. | ||
| Never been broken, that number. | ||
| That's a sacred number, 30,000. | ||
| Nobody thought they'd ever see it. | ||
| That's the ninth time since the beginning of 2020. | ||
| And it's the 48th time that we've broken records in during the Trump administration. | ||
| And I just want to congratulate all the people within the administration that worked so hard. | ||
| And most importantly, I want to congratulate the people of our country, because there are no people like you. | ||
| Thank you very much, everybody. | ||
| Thrilled with what's happened on the vaccine front. | ||
| That's been absolutely incredible. | ||
| It's nothing like It was so good, we decided to play it twice. | ||
| Okay, Stephen K. Bannon, you're here in the War Room, live on Capitol Hill. | ||
| It is Tuesday, the 24th of November, year of our Lord 2020. | ||
| We've got a special guest on the phone and a special guest in the War Room. | ||
| Dr. Stephen Hedfield joins us. | ||
| Our original first guest back on War Room Pandemic, all these many months ago, back in January of 2020. | ||
| on the john frederick radio network on real america's voice the streaming platform of the trump revolution now it's satellite dish two nineteen channel two nineteen of course comcast channel one thirteen you can see it streaming all the time NewsmaxTV and of course GNewsGTV Subtitled in Mandarin throughout the world, blown through the firewall. | ||
| And actually, through the firewall here in the United States. | ||
| Heard that One America, the guys at One America got their YouTube sent down. | ||
| We'll talk to Dr. Heffer about that later. | ||
| Putting up some, I think, cure, they said, for COVID. | ||
| Okay, by the way, just following our show tonight, 5 to 7, there's going to be a live one-hour. | ||
| Dr. Gina Loudon is going to have Senator Marsha Blackburn, Kurt Schlichter, John Solomon, the investigative reporter, and a special guest, Rush Limbaugh's producer, Bo Snurdley, who is James Golden. | ||
| Fantastic guy. | ||
| It's an election special following us. | ||
| You can get three hours of the election and a little pandemic threatening. | ||
| Okay, I want to turn to Jason Trenick from Strategist, one of the smartest guys on Wall Street. | ||
| Jason, should we send a memo to the President? | ||
| Isn't the stock market up because the stock market believes incorrectly that he lost and there's going to be a split government with Mitch McConnell keeping an eye on Joe Biden? | ||
| Isn't that why it went through 30,000? | ||
| Isn't that why it's on a roll? | ||
| Well, it's on a roll. | ||
| You know, Steve, I will say, in order to be fair, the The stock market's only about 2% higher than what it was in February. | ||
| We didn't break the big number of 30,000 in February, but we came close. | ||
| The Dow was about a little more than 18,000 when President Trump got elected. | ||
| But I think the market's going up largely because we're offering free money. | ||
| M2 growth is growing at 24%. | ||
| Interest rates are zero and it seems likely that we're going to spend more money we don't have in the next administration. | ||
| So all of that adds up to short term good feelings on Wall Street. | ||
| Yeah, because the Fed refuses to take the punchbowl away, which used to be their stock and trade. | ||
| I want to go back so our audience understands something, because this is a number that people really haven't quoted a lot since, I think, the 1970s. | ||
| I think since Paul Volcker. | ||
| Remember, M2 was a number that everybody tracked. | ||
| Tell our audience, what is M2, and why do really smart guys like Jason Trennett really look at that number now, and why is that growth so scary for the deplorables that are the core of our listening audience? | ||
| Well, M2 is a measure of money in the system, and it includes demand deposits, like checking accounts, but it also includes money market funds, it includes other Uh, forms of money, and it largely is controlled by the Federal Reserve and by the Fed keeping rates zero. | ||
| Also, the Fed is buying enormous amounts of assets on a balance sheet. | ||
| The Fed's balance sheet, the assets on the Fed's balance sheet have gone from $4 trillion this year to $7 trillion. | ||
| That happened largely in two months, from February to April. | ||
| And to give you some sense, that figure was $800 billion before Bear Stearns failed. | ||
| The reason why it's important to the members of your audience is that it is some measure of the purchasing power of your dollars. | ||
| And the dollar actually is weakening. | ||
| The dollar has weakened since Election Day. | ||
| What worries people eventually is that you'll get inflation. | ||
| If you continue to print money you don't have, you'll get inflation at some point. | ||
| And that's in the short term. | ||
| If you don't have much inflation, you have more money that's being added. | ||
| It's very good for risk assets like stocks. | ||
| But in the long run, it tends to erode the purchasing power of the dollar, and it tends to hurt savers. | ||
| It's very good for rentiers. | ||
| It's very good for people that own Financial assets. | ||
| But it over the long run, it's not particularly good for people that are saving savings. | ||
| Okay, hang on, hang on. | ||
| I just want to take a second here and this is important because it was Jason Trennard that was one of the first guys ever to be beating the drum on this. | ||
| When the financial, we got to give a little bit of economic and financial history because it ties back to the pandemic and where we are right now geopolitically and with the world and it's most important for every person out there in this audience to fully understand this. | ||
| When the financial collapse happened in 2008, right before the election of Barack Obama, of the day that Lehman Brothers went into bankruptcy, on the Gallup Poll, John McCain and Sarah Palin were actually up by a point. | ||
| John McCain suspended his campaign and the rest is history. | ||
| The balance sheet of the Federal Reserve when Obama came in was $800 billion. | ||
| When Donald Trump raised his hand to take the oath of office eight years later, the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve was $4 trillion. | ||
| And what does that have to do with anything, particularly you out there in the audience? | ||
| Essentially, what Geithner and the guys at the Fed and Obama, the most progressive president, go back and read all the books about Obama and the financial thing, he didn't know the difference between an income statement and a balance sheet. | ||
| He didn't know the difference between monetary policy and fiscal policy. | ||
| They treated him like a kid. | ||
| He just sat there. | ||
| And they came up with a plan. | ||
| And the plan was basically to save The elites. | ||
| To pump up the Fed, and to say what Jason Trent just said, is asset classes. | ||
| Basically stocks, real estate, risk assets. | ||
| There were guys at the Fed at the time sitting there, particularly, I think it was Richard Fisher, Jason, down at the Governor of the Fed down in Dallas, that said, hey, understand one thing. | ||
| You're going to destroy the working class in this country, and you're going to destroy, that haven't already been destroyed, the middle class that's been wiped out because of the mortgages you just wiped out. | ||
| You're going to destroy them. | ||
| Because the policies are going to have, your savings account is going to have zero, your checking account is going to have zero, your money market is going to have zero. | ||
| These people are never going to, they're not even going to pay the fees on this thing. | ||
| Never said yes, you're correct, but that's the way it's going to be. | ||
| This is the neo-liberal policies of Joe Biden. | ||
| He was there. | ||
| He was kind of the guy, you know, he was on the ticket to make sure that they kept an eye on Obama, the populist. | ||
| So when, and this is what Trump doesn't get credit for, because of Jason Trent and other people that were part of the Trump program, when President Trump came in, all that economic growth you saw in the tax cut, in the first, Jason correct me if I'm wrong, 18 months of the administration, he took almost a trillion dollars off the balance sheet of the Fed. | ||
| Didn't it get down to like 3.6 trillion dollars at one time, Jason, or 3.4 trillion dollars? | ||
| That's right, it did. | ||
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He wasn't directly responsible for that, but the Fed felt it was It was appropriate given the fact that he was stimulating the economy in other ways that would not directly affect My point is, in the growth of the Trump years, you weren't juicing it. | |
| He was actually going into a headwind by the Federal Reserve, whether he wanted to do it or not. | ||
| I think back when he found out about it, he kept tweeting, he stopped with the QTs. | ||
| Remember, we used to watch Glenn Becker about quantitative easing. | ||
| This was the reverse. | ||
| It was quantitative tightening. | ||
| In fact, Trump started tweeting out, stop the QTs! | ||
| Stop the QTs! | ||
| He wanted to blow the balance sheet up? | ||
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No. | |
| You had the CCP virus. | ||
| And now we've added an additional, this is a $4 trillion total right now, to the additional $4 trillion to the balance sheet of the Fed, Mr. Trent. | ||
| Yeah, you're up to $7 trillion now. | ||
| So it's about 10 times where you were before Bear Stearns failed. | ||
| So in 2008, 12 years ago, for the entire history of the Republic, You had eight hundred billion dollars of assets. | ||
| In twelve years, we've had it, was it ten times that? | ||
| Almost ten times. | ||
| Close to ten times. | ||
| So why are we not looking at a Japanification? | ||
| And when I say that, decades of slow growth. | ||
| Because now we're just printing money beyond even the concept. | ||
| You're printing money by the Fed, and you're printing money by massive quantitative easing. | ||
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Sir? | |
| Steve, it's a great question because I would argue it's very hard to stick the landing when you have this much stimulus, monetary stimulus, that you're either going to have a Japanification in which you're in a liquidity trap and no amount of liquidity is going to get you out of it, it's a slow bleed, or you're going to have inflation. | ||
| And I would argue, and we could spend A lot of time on this. | ||
| I don't think the U.S. | ||
| is very different than Japan culturally. | ||
| I feel it's very doubtful that you're going to have a Japanification of the U.S. | ||
| because there will be populism. | ||
| This is a very multicultural, very dynamic political system, unlike Japan. | ||
| I don't think people will deal with 30 years of depletion. | ||
| Did you just say the magic word? | ||
| Did you just say populism? | ||
| Yeah, well I think, yes, and I think the question is do you have a right of center populist or a left of center populist? | ||
| How about a far right of center populist? | ||
| You're talking to the Bannonite wing of the Trump movement. | ||
| You're talking to the hardcore. | ||
| No, this is my point. | ||
| This is the only thing that's going to save us. | ||
| And Jason Trennert, one of Wall Street's basic guys, said, hey, there's a stuff, Japanification, you got populism. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| It's going to be one or the other. | ||
| It's going to be Bernie Sanders and AOC, left-wing populism, or it's going to be right-wing populism. | ||
| But populism is what's going to get in here. | ||
| Because the other thing with President Trump, when he talks about this 30,000, it's his mortal enemies. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| the beneficiary of this yes the four one k's i got all that party yes that's very helpful and it's important eccentric but it's the oligarchs in silicon valley that again aren't they get most of the bigger issue of mister tronert i would i would think so i mean it up until the virus remember the unemployment rate was three and a half percent yes yes so no no no no i'm talking about not know the other dot on the line economy i I got it. | ||
| By the way, he did a magnificent job. | ||
| The Stryver's economy, the real economy, yes, but I'm talking about in the financialization of the economy. | ||
| The capital markets in the economy are bifurcated right now. | ||
| I'm not saying we're looking at Armageddon, but the next couple of years look a little dicey when Biden's talking $7 trillion bailout. | ||
| Even Trump, you know, he wanted to do a $3 trillion bailout before. | ||
| You've got M2 growing at 24%. | ||
| There's nobody at the Fed. | ||
| You've got Janet Yellen, who helped, well, she's actually kind of a coming in, but she's going to be Treasury Secretary. | ||
| Her backup is Focahontas, right? | ||
| The economy looks like it's going in choppy water, if you look at New York City. | ||
| But the stock market's going great because there's print money, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's about as simple as that. | ||
| The money growth is growing a lot faster than the underlying economy. | ||
| One of the things I think that, you know, people tend to, and it makes sense that they have a relationship with one another. | ||
| But if money growth is growing much faster than the economy, the excess liquidity tends to go into stocks and bonds. | ||
| It tends to benefit the wealthiest people. | ||
| And especially wealthy people have other avenues to hedge Inflation, they have other ways in which they can preserve their wealth. | ||
| The average person does not. | ||
| The average person is either dependent upon interest income or, as we would say, real interest income, the interest income over and above inflation. | ||
| Right now, the average person is getting negative yields. | ||
| They're not getting enough interest on their savings to cover inflation. | ||
| We gotta bounce, Jason. | ||
| You're a rock star. | ||
| You speak truth to the American people. | ||
| Jason Trenner from Strategist. | ||
| That's why we have Jason on here. | ||
| He's actually a populist at heart. | ||
| He's a good man. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Look, this is the thing. | ||
| I know President Trump's very proud of the stock market. | ||
| It's done a fantastic job. | ||
| It has helped everybody's 401k, but it's the underlying economy. | ||
| The stock market will take care of itself. | ||
| The underlying economy, that has got to be the focus. | ||
| You did a terrific job, but you've had this pandemic, and quite frankly, we are just printing money like crazy. | ||
| And if you look at what's been proposed going forward, This is just, this is going to have some sort of, you know, we're going, and the Biden guys are crazier than some of the stuff that's going over in the administration, right? | ||
| And I'm a, look, I was a big believer at the time, should have had big tax increases for the wealthy. | ||
| And first, I know I'm not the most popular guy about that, right? | ||
| Should have had big tax increases for the wealthy in the first tax bill. | ||
| We should have gotten all the repatriation cash and everything back here, investing in capital equipment. | ||
| What is important is to rebuild the manufacturing base of the United States of America for citizens. | ||
| Yes, we had terrific growth in wages. | ||
| In the Stryber's economy, President Trump did an amazing job of that, but you just can't keep focusing on the stock market. | ||
| And particularly now, one of the reasons the stock market's up is, yes, the vaccine, which he gets no credit for, zero credit, did an amazing job on the vaccine. | ||
| And look, I'm not a huge believer in this vaccine because it's, you know, I still think the jury's out on what this thing's going to be. | ||
| Tony Fauci's out there today in an hour in the Washington Post saying nobody's going to be forced to take it. | ||
| I'm not saying people are going to be forced to take it, but there's going to be a House of Lords, House of Commons part of this. | ||
| When the vaccine starts going, certain people are going to be able to do certain things that have the vaccine, and people that have not taken it are just going to be not going to have those opportunities that people that take the vaccine. | ||
| That's just going to be the reality. | ||
| But on the economy, We've got some serious, serious issues we have to deal with. | ||
| The balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, and you've got these guys on the left, they're saying this monetary theory that this stuff doesn't matter, just keep printing, and they want to print more with the Green New Deal and healthcare for all. | ||
| So it's going to be quite interesting, but this is something people have got to get focused on. | ||
| Jason Trinidad. | ||
| So that's why I would not run up there and say this is a sacred number, right? | ||
| It's the underlying economy. | ||
| We've had a financialization of the economy. | ||
| And this is what got us into the problem in 2008, and it's another problem today. | ||
| And what President Trump should be very proud of, in the first 18 months of his administration, this was huge. | ||
| That growth came from, and yes, he did have the tax cuts, he did have the big spending bills, but You did that and you're doing quantitative tightening. | ||
| You almost took a trillion dollars off the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| You were buying in assets, right? | ||
| So very, very, very, very, very important and so now we're in a different situation. | ||
| Also, I keep saying, you're going to get the second term. | ||
| We've got breaking news here. | ||
| You're going to get the second term. | ||
| Start acting like you're starting to be taking dramatic action. | ||
| Peter Navarro, Mnuchin, these guys will be announcing executive orders every day. | ||
| Take advantage of the bonus 60 days you've got in your second term. | ||
| That second term's coming. | ||
| Because December 14th, they're not going to have these things certified, really certified. | ||
| The final certification means electors sent to the state capitals to get to 270 electoral votes. | ||
| This is going to get kicked into the House of Representatives in January. | ||
| And we've got breaking news today. | ||
| Tomorrow there's going to be the Pennsylvania legislature. | ||
| Now, first it was just going to be Republicans. | ||
| There's going to be some hearing. | ||
| They're going to do it. | ||
| Now it's a joint. | ||
| Is it a joint session, Greg Vance? | ||
| So tomorrow it's the Majority Policy Committee in Pennsylvania. | ||
| And Doug Mastriano is the state senator that spearheaded that. | ||
| And to give some context, he's the Jim Jordan of Pennsylvania politics. | ||
| He's hardcore. | ||
| He's a fire breather and he's going to Be leading this, along with the chairman, Dave Ardall. | ||
| And there's going to be witnesses, right? | ||
| We already know, I think, I'm told, the head of the controversial Montgomery County, Ms. | ||
| Priette, is going to be there. | ||
| She's going to testify. | ||
| She's going to give testimony. | ||
| And Montgomery County is so controversial because Revolver every day has got a lead story up there about how the finesse Was down in Montgomery County. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| She's going to give testimony. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, who we're going to have here at the bottom of the hour, is going to give testimony. | ||
| In fact, he's going to head the whole thing up, coordinate. | ||
| They're going to have people there that sign the affidavits. | ||
| Who else is scheduled right now? | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| So on Monday, the Arizona Legislature, and then Tuesday, the Michigan Legislature. | ||
| So they called a special session, or is this just a hearing? | ||
| Hearings right now. | ||
| So hearings in Arizona on Monday and Michigan on Tuesday. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Hey, and this is Rudy's chance. | ||
| You know, Laura on him, Rush is on him, Tucker's on him, and I think rightfully so. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| You've got to show the receipts. | ||
| And now, it may not be perfect, but you've got affidavits. | ||
| We know from the morning show we had Dave Coleman on. | ||
| From the Great Lakes Justice Center, and he's got this thing up, and I think he's now doing the first hearing to get back to the Supreme Court, an evidentiary hearing, and Justice told him yesterday when they threw it out because he asked for an injunction against the certification, they said, hey, these affidavits are real. | ||
| This thing in Wayne County is outrageous. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom of this, and you've got real Evidence! | ||
| And they're going to have an evidentiary hearing to see if it is evidence or not. | ||
| Yeah, in this release they also specifically say that Mayor Giuliani will be giving a presentation, so we'll be able to see this hard data and evidence of the fraud throughout Pennsylvania. | ||
| So this is, I mean, this is important. | ||
| And then, and would the next step be that the whole legislature has a committee, some joint committee that would have this? | ||
| And by the way, you'll have Democrats trying to chop you up in that, which is fine, right? | ||
| A joint session of the legislature would make sense after this, after the full presentation to this majority policy committee. | ||
| Look, the reason this is happening, audience, is because of you. | ||
| A lot of these guys would just like this to go away, right? | ||
| Just have it go away and, you know, we're too nervous and too afraid to confront this, what this deal was. | ||
| And, quite frankly, maybe we were leaning on our shovels when this happened. | ||
| Tucker, in the morning, cold open, Tucker lays out and says, hey, this happened in plain sight. | ||
| For months, we started talking about this in July. | ||
| We had Bill McGinley on here every day. | ||
| Raheem started breaking the stories of National Pulse, the transition integrity project. | ||
| And I kept mocking him because I said, not going to be a transition, right? | ||
| Well, according to the GSA, Bannon was wrong. | ||
| And what did they say? | ||
| We said lawfare. | ||
| We said Perkins-Coy, right? | ||
| Was it Mark Elias? | ||
| The mastermind, Bob Bauer, the architect, right? | ||
| They had it all planned out. | ||
| But hey, it went through a bunch of states. | ||
| That's why, you know, Dershowitz is saying, and now you're hearing from the administration, there may be a lawsuit that drafts off. | ||
| This is why we had Kelly's lawyer on here, Greg Truffle, yesterday, who walked through what they're doing in state court to say, hey, look, it's fine. | ||
| We don't need to bring evidence. | ||
| You didn't have the right, the legislature didn't have the right to work with the governor and to change this. | ||
| You had to do a referendum, you had to go back according to the Constitution, you got to go back to the people and get a referendum, you can't change something that big. | ||
| And one of the things with that lawsuit, with the Act 77 being unconstitutional in which they're arguing, is in Pennsylvania they got rid of state straight ticket balloting, so you can't just circle in all Republican, all Democrat at the top. | ||
| So, in a way, we'll be able to see if that helped expose this or if that component of Act 77 was also unconstitutional. | ||
| Yeah, but the word is, the guys in Pennsylvania would trade off doing the mail-in ballots for getting the down ticket off, right? | ||
| That's exactly right, yes. | ||
| Although down ticket, this is one of the years that down ticket can help you. | ||
| They have an unpopular guy at the top that's not going to carry Pennsylvania, they can get it and have their own district. | ||
| So in the political horse trade, to take the down ticket, they say, well, we'll take the mail-in. | ||
| With the logic, I'm sure they're sitting there going, we can get around the mail-in at our own, I'm not being cynical, but in the in the crass world of workaday politics, the trade-off is, hey, I can work my district, that's going to be Trump's problem, right? | ||
| And listen, here's the thing about Pennsylvania. | ||
| If we don't stop it there, we just got to throw in town and give up. | ||
| And here's why. | ||
| At, correct me if I'm wrong, Greg Mance, because you're an expert in Pennsylvania politics. | ||
| I think it was at 10 o'clock at night. | ||
| And it was Bannon that said 1045, we should go up there, but that's, I don't want to keep harping on that. | ||
| He was up 800,000 votes with 64% of the vote in. | ||
| It is virtually mathematically impossible. | ||
| Yep, Steve Cortez and I were together on election night and we saw that 800 number and it was, wow, we hit that threshold and this is over. | ||
| We're sitting there doing it with, we've got the People's Pundit, we've got Richard Barris, we've got Bill McGinley. | ||
| We're out there hanging out, we're on a cliff right across from the Capitol. | ||
| It's freezing, right? | ||
| And I see that 800,000 number and I go, oh my God. | ||
| We actually closed Pennsylvania. | ||
| I thought we'd do it. | ||
| He'd get up in the morning and he's like 350,000, right? | ||
| They've cut, I don't know, 400,000 overnight. | ||
| 2.6 million mail-in ballots and the analytics are going to shock people of where these votes came from. | ||
| Both the personages and the locations. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because there's a lot of serious analysis that's going to go, and I think it'll be ready for Rudy, some of it, for Rudy to be able to. | ||
| And by the way, this is being crowdsourced. | ||
| Citizens all over the country are interested in this and doing work and finding interesting things. | ||
| And the Democrats, they just don't do a peep. | ||
| So in Arizona, remember, Arizona, they would have to have a special session of the state legislature come back, because there's so many problems there, and Trump's within 10,000 votes. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And you've got Maricopa County, you've got Pima County problems, you've got the voting machine problems, you've got up in the tribal nations issues, right? | ||
| So that's all happening. | ||
| You've got Georgia, they've sued to get another audit done, a real audit this time, instead of just a recount. | ||
| And in Wisconsin it's going great guns, and of course in Michigan the legislature's going to have testimony also. | ||
| So this thing's moving forward. | ||
| Don't think there's not, they're fighting on a lot of fronts, fighting in courts, fighting in state courts and federal courts, and people say, well I don't know if it's grinded through, and they're trying to pull together testimony, right, and evidence Which is not easy to do in such a compressed time frame. | ||
| That's where tomorrow they're going to start. | ||
| I think it's going to take place in Gettysburg, is that where it's going to be? | ||
| Yes, that's correct, in Gettysburg. | ||
| Historic Gettysburg. | ||
| Yep, exactly. | ||
| And I'll be watching tomorrow in the Pennsylvania hearing if the libertarian component of Montgomery County comes up, what Darren was talking about in Revolver News. | ||
| Because Montgomery County is not a libertarian county. | ||
| To get those percentages does not make sense. | ||
| It is the bastion of what's left of Rockefeller Republicans. | ||
| Rockefeller Republicans, right? | ||
| I did say Priet's sister there, didn't I? | ||
| Just kidding, Alexandra. | ||
| I know that you're a hardcore Trumper. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break when we return. | ||
| The man who's gonna lead the effort tomorrow in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. | ||
| America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| The president's lawyer. | ||
| He's gonna join us in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| 20,000 plus emails and text messages, okay, that show a substantial and deep involvement with foreign companies controlled by foreign governments that have never been disclosed before, okay? | ||
| These people are, they're a national security problem. | ||
| And the issue before us today is why the FBI didn't deal with the national security problem. | ||
| This is just not a bunch of grifters from Wilmington, Delaware. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This guy's running for President of the United States. | ||
| He's been Vice President of the United States. | ||
| He was head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Every country in the world is trying to get access to him. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This is what, and this is what this issue is about. | ||
| This is about, this is a national security problem. | ||
| And the guys around him, the Jake Sullivans, the Tony Blinkens, all these guys that want to be, you know, Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense and National Security Advisor, they're going to have to answer 20,000 plus emails and text messages, okay? | ||
| That show a substantial and deep... One time is good. | ||
| Denver. | ||
| I know Denver loves these things so much they want to play them twice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That is Stephen K. Bannikon. | ||
| When was that, Beck? | ||
| October 14th. | ||
| Two months ago. | ||
| Calling out Tony Blinken all by name. | ||
| Can't get confirmed because you're up to your neck. | ||
| And by the way, one of the articles today, I think it was in The Hill, He said there may be a problem here with this Hunter thing. | ||
| Of course, they go back to Burisma. | ||
| Burisma's a sideshow. | ||
| I'm talking the real dollars. | ||
| China, CCP. | ||
| Okay, now, Rudy Giuliani, who, by the way, brought us into the hard drive from hell. | ||
| I don't know if Jack Maxey's more obsessed with the data from the election, or more obsessed with the hard drive from hell. | ||
| I think his new obsession is data, but he's getting back to the hard drive. | ||
| Briefly, I did step away so that I could look through all of Anthony Blinken's emails between he and Hunter, some of which were on an AOL account, promising a little favor from the State Department. | ||
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So, if nothing else, certainly the Senate hearings will be exciting. | |
| Yeah, shouldn't be using that AOL account. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Okay, we're back to that. | ||
| Where's his emails? | ||
| Okay, let's go now. | ||
| We've got America's Mayor. | ||
| The President's lawyer. | ||
| The head of this effort to make sure that every legal vote counts. | ||
| He's defending the country, as he does all the time. | ||
| One of the best prosecutors in the history of our nation. | ||
| Put the mob away. | ||
| Put the Wall Street Mafia away. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Mayor, thank you very much. | ||
| I know you're incredibly busy with not just doing interviews, but everything you do in the campaign. | ||
| You finally broke through, and you're going to have a hearing tomorrow, and I think it's in historic Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Tell us, how did you finally pull this? | ||
| It's fabulous. | ||
| How did you pull it off? | ||
| And you're the guy that's going to be, you're going to be presenting, you're the key presenter with, I guess, some of your witnesses. | ||
| We do know that Liz Preate Harvey, or Hayvee, Well, you know, the courts have shut us out from having a hearing. | ||
| When I say the courts, we've only gotten to that point with one court, and that was the court in Pennsylvania. | ||
| to walk through how some of these counties are so out of whack with history, but you're bringing the receipts, you're actually bringing, I think, affidavits and maybe some witnesses. | ||
| Tell people, how did you finally pull this off, and what are you going to do tomorrow? | ||
| Well, you know, the courts have shut us out from having a hearing. | ||
| When I say the courts, we've only gotten to that point with one court, and that was the court in Pennsylvania. | ||
| All we were asking for was a hearing so that we could put on a sample of our 50 or so witnesses, maybe 20 of them, and then affidavits, and the judge cut us off, and we're on appeal, but it'll take us a week or two to resolve that. | ||
| So I spoke to members of the legislature. | ||
| It's their responsibility to conduct the presidential election, by the way. | ||
| Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution puts the electors, the selection of the electors, in the hands of the state legislate. | ||
| Not the governor, not the Commissioner of Elections. | ||
| They're just functionaries. | ||
| The decision-maker by the Constitution of the United States are the state legislators. | ||
| So we went to them and said, basically, we're getting robbed. | ||
| Not only have they cheated us out of the election, they're cheating us out of a hearing. | ||
| So we'll have our first hearing tomorrow. | ||
| We'll produce a sample of the witnesses. | ||
| Maybe 8, 10 of the 50 that we have. | ||
| But they'll cover the categories of fraud that happened in Pennsylvania. | ||
| And Pennsylvania was a complete ripoff. | ||
| I mean, there are well over 600,000 illegitimate ballots in Pennsylvania. | ||
| And you know that happened. | ||
| I mean, the president was ahead 800,000 votes when he went to sleep on Tuesday night, Wednesday morning. | ||
| All of a sudden, the next morning, You know, they make up 500, 600,000 votes. | ||
| That's, I mean, that's just crazy. | ||
| And we have the witnesses who will say that no Republican ever got a chance to put their eyes on any of those mail-in ballots. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Even though there's a time-honored rule in every state that you get to inspect the ballot, both sides, so that they can't be cheating. | ||
| We were shut out. | ||
| Hundreds of inspectors were shut out. | ||
| Never happened before. | ||
| They were put in corrals like they were cattle. | ||
| They were pushed around, pushed out. | ||
| They didn't want Republicans getting anywhere near these ballots. | ||
| There's got to be only one reason for that, Steve. | ||
| The obvious reason. | ||
| The ballots were crooked. | ||
| They were phony. | ||
| And then we'll have witnesses that come on and say they showed up to vote on Election Day and they were told you voted already. | ||
| And they said, no, we didn't vote already. | ||
| Yes, you did. | ||
| No, we did. | ||
| Well, in fact, they had voted, but somebody else had voted for them. | ||
| We've got 17,000 situations like that just in Pittsburgh. | ||
| 17,000 like that. | ||
| We'll have a list, of course, of the dead people that voted in Philadelphia. | ||
| It wouldn't be an election in Philadelphia if a lot of dead people didn't vote. | ||
| I think we got only half of them. | ||
| Uh, the other half, you know, could take a little, it's hard to find dead people. | ||
| You can't like go interview them. | ||
| You have to go through the list and see who, but in some cases in Philadelphia, it's easy because some of them have been dead 30 and 40 years. | ||
| I mean, they cheat in Philadelphia. | ||
| Like you can get away with it because it's a crooked slave machine and the courts are crooked. | ||
| Let me just jump in here. | ||
| I've just got to ask some things. | ||
| So, are you saying that you don't think the judge and the federal judge did not schedule and basically tried to blow you guys out of the border at the first gating event and didn't give you an evidentiary hearing because he did not want to? | ||
| That's a pretty harsh charge against a federal judge, isn't it? | ||
| Well, it's the fact. | ||
| I mean, very few cases get dismissed on a motion to dismiss. | ||
| In doing it, he decided that he didn't agree with some of the allegations. | ||
| Well, you don't make a decision like that on a motion to dismiss. | ||
| On a motion to dismiss, not to get too technical, you have to assume that everything that I'm saying is true. | ||
| And if it's true, there's no case. | ||
| Well, if it is true that they secretly counted 682,770 votes then I should at least get a hearing, right? You can't decide on paper that that's true or false, particularly when I tell you I have an affidavit. So that's the point I'm trying to get at. | ||
| I'm trying to go through the logical. | ||
| And you're saying, therefore, you get that 600,000 numbers, the 682, that you're saying is what you guys calculated, that the observers were pushed away or not allowed to get an observed, that that is of the 2.6 million mail-in ballots, that 682,000 of them, We're without observers being close enough to actually do checkings of naked ballots, the signatures and all that. | ||
| Is that the point you're making? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then we have external evidence that their method of cheating was to stuff the ballot box with those ballots. | ||
| So of course they wanted to keep us away. | ||
| I should also correct, Professor Turley goes on television all the time and says we want to cancel six or seven million votes. | ||
| I have no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| We're talking about 600,000 votes. | ||
| We don't want to cancel all the votes. | ||
| We want to cancel the illegal votes. | ||
| We'd like to cancel the votes of the dead people. | ||
| I hope he's okay with that. | ||
| We'd like to cancel the votes where there's an overvote. | ||
| So you have some precincts in which, let's say, 4,000 people are registered, but 8,000 people voted. | ||
| Well, you know there are 4,000 illegitimate votes in that precinct. | ||
| We have illegal votes. | ||
| Every category of fraud in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Good, and here's my other point. | ||
| When people say you have no evidence and you've just been thrown wild accusations, it's back to that $600,000 and then tomorrow you're going to bring in every different category and vertical affidavits that are emblematic of others that you could get, right? | ||
| That add up to a certain amount. | ||
| Now that number does not add up to $682,000, but you'll be able to say, It goes over that? | ||
| Well, it's well over 682. | ||
| I mean, it's at least another couple hundred thousand in those other categories. | ||
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| So you can get up to 800,000 plus? | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Easily that we can count that needs to be deducted from the vote. | ||
| And once again, we're not asking for 7 million votes to be canceled. | ||
| I think people say that to make us sound like we're stupid. | ||
| And then they say things like, We have no evidence. | ||
| But they don't bother to read the complaint. | ||
| We actually attach affidavits to some of the complaints, so they won't be able to say that. | ||
| And affidavits are sworn statements. | ||
| They're a lot better than Democrats ever produce. | ||
| They never produce sworn statements. | ||
| They just produce anonymous people. | ||
| These are real people. | ||
| They want to testify. | ||
| They're citizens of Pennsylvania. | ||
| We have lined up. | ||
| 80 of them to testify at a trial. | ||
| We'll take 10 to 12 tomorrow as symbolic of that so the legislators can see how their own citizens were cheated. | ||
| I mean, many of them, 17,000 people in Pittsburgh were cheated out of the right to vote because somebody else illegally voted their ballot in the early voting. | ||
| Dershowitz, in going through your case, said, hey, I think Rudy's got a great case to make an argument to rule in his favor. | ||
| The problem is, Rudy doesn't have anywhere close to the, I think it's 80, is it 82,000, is it 82,000 or 52,000 in Pennsylvania right now to overturn it? | ||
| To actually overturn it, it was 52,000 the other day. | ||
| Has it gotten higher? | ||
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Do you know where we are, Greg? | |
| 82? | ||
| Or 52? | ||
| 82. | ||
| So it's 82,000. | ||
| You don't have close to the 82,000. | ||
| And the courts are not going to give Rudy and the President just a pyrrhic victory. | ||
| They're not going to sit there and go, you're absolutely correct, but since you can't show it, because then they're going to have all kind of chaos. | ||
| I mean, I would love it because it shows that this is illegal. | ||
| But do you believe in your witnesses that you can come in tomorrow and make the second point that, hey, we're right on the law, And as importantly, we've got the receipts or we've got the directionally, we've got the receipts that a judge can sit there and go, yeah, I see where these guys can get to the $82,000 to actually turn it around. | ||
| I think we're way, I think, and particularly in Pennsylvania, I think we're way over the $82,000 that we need. | ||
| Just in the ballots that were secretly counted, which had to be inspected, We have 682,000. | ||
| We have 30,000 or 40,000 people without citizenship who voted. | ||
| We have 17,000 alone in Pittsburgh where people had voted before they got there to vote. | ||
| In other words, somebody had illegally voted for them. | ||
| We have about 22,000 in Philadelphia. | ||
| I mean, the numbers add up to way over. | ||
| Maybe five, six times the number that we need. | ||
| If they give us a chance to prove it, we can prove it. | ||
| Mayor, can I ask you just to hold over for, we've got a couple minutes of commercials and we want to come back, we want to come back. | ||
| We've got a couple of questions to ask you about Arizona. | ||
| You're expanding the battlefield today with testimony tomorrow in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in front of a Republican, the Majorities Committee in the Senate is going to sit there and go through the evidence. | ||
| Rudy's going to bring the receipts so the national media can sit there. | ||
| It's a forcing function to force them to look at the evidence that Rudy Giuliani has. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the case to count all legal votes. | ||
| Remember, all legal votes should be counted. | ||
| No illegal votes should be counted. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Banham. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani has been gracious enough to spend a few minutes with us here trying to explain. | ||
| So, Mayor, also we've seen just reams of statistical analysis that shows that it's impossible, mathematically, for what happened in Pennsylvania to happen. | ||
| Are you also, besides witnesses and affidavits and evidence, Are you going to have any statistical analysis to let the nation, because you're forcing guys to, you're going to force the media to cover this. | ||
| So finally you get presented that the impossible, you know, the CNN and MSNBC are so data evidence based and science based when they come talk about CCP virus, but not here. | ||
| They won't say anything. | ||
| Are you going to tomorrow have someone present what the math is here? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, first of all, you begin with the fact that there are statisticians and we'll present that An affidavit form, possibly a witness also. | ||
| But statisticians who say it was impossible in the amount of time and with the amount of votes left for Biden to not only have caught up but to get as big a lead as he got when he was 850,000 votes behind. | ||
| We have several statistical reports like that. | ||
| There are also reports that analyze as the vote was being counted, the number of machines that were available, it was impossible to count that many votes During that period of time. | ||
| In other words, the votes were three and four times the capacity of the machine. | ||
| And that's during the period, like for example, when they dumped 100,000 votes in Detroit. | ||
| 100,000 votes came in at 4.30 in the morning in garbage cans and in waste paper baskets and in cardboard boxes. | ||
| There are four witnesses to that. | ||
| They'll be presented in Michigan next week. | ||
| During that period of time, those votes were counted in something like 45 minutes. | ||
| It would have taken three to four hours to do that, unless you would double and triple and quadruple counting them. | ||
| There's evidence like the overvote in Detroit. | ||
| There are places in Detroit where 200%, 300%, 400% of the registered voters voted. | ||
| That's, of course, completely impossible. | ||
| That's why people come in and can't vote. | ||
| Because their names have been used as having voted for a phony voter. | ||
| And then you, Steve Bannon, show up, or poor Mrs. Jones shows up. | ||
| She wants to vote. | ||
| But in the early vote, they'd used Mrs. Jones's name. | ||
| They'll be inside witnesses. | ||
| That'll be in Michigan, a woman who worked for the Democrat Party, who was disgusted at what she saw, and testifies from the very beginning in September They trained her how to cheat. | ||
| And she did all these things. | ||
| People would come in. | ||
| They weren't registered. | ||
| She'd find a name to attach it to. | ||
| They told her never to check addresses, never to check signatures. | ||
| If people were having trouble voting, show them how to vote Democrat, which she did on a number of occasions, and so did her colleagues. | ||
| Anshul testifies she was told never to show a Republican any of the ballots. | ||
| No matter what they said, the police will back you up, she was told. | ||
| This is the kind of election we're running, Steve, all throughout the country. | ||
| You're going down this path, and I just want to make sure the audience understands something, because we are burning daylight. | ||
| You've got these hearings tomorrow, you've got a hearing in Arizona and Michigan Monday, Tuesday, next week. | ||
| They're not with the whole legislature. | ||
| Some of those have to be called back, like in Arizona. | ||
| But you show it tomorrow, you show your evidence. | ||
| That evidence you're showing tomorrow is also the evidence that you're using in federal court to push this forward in in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and in Georgia and other places, correct? So it's people are going to see the evidence you've got and it's being used in two different forms. | ||
| Yes, yes, essentially they're going to see, obviously we don't have enough time to show all of it, so we'll show 20 percent of it representative of the other 80 percent that we have. | ||
| Since we have a safe harbor on the 8th, and that could be moved, right, but the 14th is a hard date when the electoral college meets and they've got to have, if the electors are not sorted out, it gets kicked to the house. | ||
| Is there enough time to go down both paths, to go down a legislative path and deal with that, and also the courts? | ||
| Do you feel comfortable you've got enough runway that you can get lift by pursuing both? | ||
| I do and but the reason we the reason we went to this strategy of getting the evidence out is it seemed to me that some of the courts were intent on making it certain that we couldn't get our facts out so that people could get on television and sometimes in good faith mistakenly say we have no evidence and sometimes they know we have evidence and they just lie about it. | ||
| So it really is important For the American people to know that there is substantial evidence and that the President is pursuing this for the good of the American people. | ||
| This is a major, major, multi-state, multi-city voter fraud. | ||
| It is, when I say multi-state, multi-city, it's confined largely to the big cities that have crooked Democrat machines. | ||
| And they didn't try this in neutral cities or small places. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Swing states, battleground states with big Democratic machines. | ||
| The number of people who have gone to jail in these cities, Democrat politicians, is legendary. | ||
| I mean, some of them, like every other mayor, goes to jail. | ||
| In Philadelphia, you have no idea how many people have been convicted of voter fraud. | ||
| It's like It's as frequent as parking tickets in some of the places. | ||
| I mean, it's a hobby. | ||
| The last question. | ||
| Dershowitz laid out an alternative. | ||
| Congressman Kelly's pursuing this in state court, where no evidence, no witnesses, he's just going through the pure constitutional. | ||
| The state legislature did not have the authority to change this for mail-in ballots. | ||
| They had to have a referendum. | ||
| Do you believe that that And if you tried another alternative, because Dershowitz is giving you the signal that the Supreme Court will probably back you on that. | ||
| Have you thought, are you thinking about maybe just going down by pursuit and do a pure, do just do a pure thing where you just go hit it on the constitutional issue? | ||
| Not quite that, but something very much like that will be filed shortly. | ||
| I can't exactly disclose the nature of it because it hasn't been decided on, but there'll be a multi-state case that'll be brought, that'll be brought on a pure None of them are pure legal issues, but a much cleaner legal issue. | ||
| But also, should the Supreme Court decide that way, you also want the American people to know this isn't a technicality. | ||
| I can show you how Trump actually won Pennsylvania. | ||
| I can show you he won by about 300,000 votes. | ||
| I can show you how he won Michigan by about 80,000 votes. | ||
| My statisticians can do that. | ||
| By counting out the illegal ballots. | ||
| And we want people to know that. | ||
| That is the result. | ||
| We want them to know that if you count honest ballots, he wins. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani, thank you very much. | ||
| You're doing God's work. | ||
| We'll put up your Twitter and all your thing for your podcast. | ||
| Absolutely amazing. | ||
| America's Mayor. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani does, I tell you what, he's the ultimate honey badger. | ||
| All that you get attacked, you don't care, you just keep going. | ||
| That's the ultimate honey badger. | ||
| Honey badger doesn't give a crap. | ||
| He just keeps grinding. | ||
| The ultimate honey badger. | ||
| Mayor Rudy Giuliani. |
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