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steve bannon
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Okay, well, I want to go back to Michigan.
Big breaking news out of there today.
I hope as many of the deplorables heard some of the testimony, because it was pretty startling, the amount of evidence laid out, and they had some terrific people presenting it.
The campaign's lawyer, Thor, Charlie Spees, who represented John James, the extraordinary combat helicopter pilot from West Point, and our guest, former Senator of the State, Patrick Colbeck, Who's also an engineer and a tech guy, so he was in very detail.
I guess in summary, Senator, Michigan, I think people sitting there are so outraged, particularly as you've done the evidence, we're going to put a bunch of stuff up and there's actually more analysis coming out about what happened.
They see Wayne County last week and they see these two respectable Republicans kind of fight for it and then get intimidated and kind of back off and cut a deal they think's a deal to still audit it and then they just get dismissed.
It goes to the state.
You guys make, I think it was four hours of a total throwdown with you guys not backing up at all.
And for whatever reason, either the interpretation of the law or what the rules were, we had, and I think it was either three to one or three with a tie, with an extension.
And people don't know if an audit, they've seen all this evidence, they've heard you, and they're sitting there going, we're just going to let this go?
I mean, this is just, there's not going to be an audit.
People are not going to be held accountable for what happened in Wayne County.
People are not going to be held accountable for what happened in Michigan.
We're not actually going to get to a vote of American citizens that had chain of custody, so therefore is a legal vote.
So if you can take it, we're going to have Phil Kline on here in a moment from St.
Thomas, from the Thomas Moore He's got this incredible lawsuit going against Zuckerberg across multiple states, and Zuckerberg comes up in your thing with the Facebook $400 million.
For our audience, for the deplorables, where does this go from here in Michigan?
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
You've got the legislature, you've got the process of kind of the executive branch on the certification slash audit, and then you've got the courts.
In your mind, what happens in walking through that critical path, because December 8th is going to be on us pretty quickly.
patrick colbeck
All right, well the end game is assignment of Electoral College votes when it comes to the presidential race.
That doesn't address anything down ballot, but let's just focus in on the presidential race right now.
And next week, or maybe at the end of this week, don't know exactly yet, but I've heard rumblings that we're going to have some joint hearings that are going to hear all about everything that went wrong in this 2020 election season.
So you're going to hear testimony after testimony.
And theoretically, that testimony could be used to give our legislature a backbone and say, you know what?
Under Article 2 of the United States Constitution, it's up to the legislature to decide how those electoral college votes are decided.
It doesn't say governor, doesn't say that at all.
Legislature, it's up to them to go off and decide how to allocate those electoral college votes.
And if they see sufficient evidence of fraud, which we believe exists, at very minimum, there is zero chain of custody confidence in the election process, then they could go off and assign the electors as they see fit.
But you got to make the case with them.
It's got to be strong.
That's something that it's obviously for a lot of elected officials.
They're not going to want to go against what is being portrayed as the will of the people, even though we know that it's been stolen.
It's a stolen will.
It's a fake will of the people.
So that's one path.
The other path that's potential is there's a lot of court cases in the mix, through the state court system as well as the federal court system.
They could be issuing some strange orders or orders to go off and re-vote or maybe just re-vote specific communities.
That's kind of a big wild card right now.
So, that's kind of the two basic tracks.
steve bannon
Okay, Phil, what's your, I mean, Patrick, what is your social media, what's your Twitter handle, Parler, Facebook?
How do people get to you to follow you?
patrick colbeck
Same on Parler and Twitter.
It's PJ Kohlbeck.
And if you go to letsfixstuff.org, you can see kind of a breakdown at Chain of Custody, which I think is going to be a big term in the next few weeks.
And people need to understand that.
And you can always follow me up on Facebook and stuff.
But check out letsfixstuff.org.
It's the best way to get the latest info.
steve bannon
We'll link to that.
Thank you very much, Senator.
patrick colbeck
Thank you guys.
unidentified
Keep up the fight.
steve bannon
Former Senator Patrick... Thank you, brother.
Colby, you got breaking news today?
greg manz
So, two things of breaking news in Michigan.
Since we're on that right now, the state Supreme Court has denied a Republican request to deny the certification of the Wayne County and that was the Constantino case.
And then GSA has now informed the Biden transition team that the transition can go forward on that end.
steve bannon
Wow.
Somebody over at the White House buckled on this.
Somebody blinked.
That was a G.A.S.
decision that had to get approval from the White House.
Can you check that out?
Let's find out.
Because that's a big'un, as we say.
Okay, I'm going to bring in now Phil Klein from the Thomas More Society, the Amistad Project.
You've got multiple lawsuits in multiple states.
Phil, can you walk through exactly what you're trying to accomplish here?
phill kline
Yeah, first of all, if I could, Steve, what I'd like to show you is the five easy steps they took to steal this election.
unidentified
And the evidence all falls into these categories.
phill kline
Is that okay?
steve bannon
Yeah, we'd love it.
What are you talking about?
That's home cooking right here in the War Room.
phill kline
Yeah, right here, man.
You can't count what you can't see.
And that what they did is to prevent America from seeing what's happening.
First of all, they kicked us out.
You know all the evidence about kicking Republicans out of the room, out of the ability to monitor the count.
And they also use these machines and you can't see inside the machine.
You've got to have the logs to know what's going on inside the machine.
They won't let us have the logs.
So we can't count what we can't see.
They can't steal what they can't find.
And so what they've done is through third party contracts, they have made our election rolls vulnerable, giving others the right to enter data for registered voters.
And you know how that works.
If I have an interface with the state system, I can collect all kinds of data to create voters that I want to create.
So you can't, you can't steal what you can't find.
Additionally, with that, they created these Zucker boxes in the breaks of the chain of custody that Patrick Kohlbeck was just speaking about.
You pick up tens of thousands of ballots out of these boxes.
You drive and you drop them off in centralized locations.
You have a vulnerable point where you can infuse thousands of ballots into the stream and you could pull out other ballots as well and not have them counted.
Furthermore, you can adjust what you're doing within the counting location because you don't have Republicans there.
You can't promise what you can't deliver.
What we are discovering is the transportation mechanism of getting these ballots into the system through witnesses and others indicating the movements of ballots at times when they should not be moving from locations where they should not be coming from.
That evidence is going to be coming out soon.
You can't buy what you can't afford.
That's Zuckerberg.
$400 million to implement this and other big tech.
And then you can't catch what you can't find.
That's why they're not letting us in.
That's why they have given contracts to other groups, private groups that can manipulate those roles right now.
And in fact, we have evidence that some of the poll books are being changed as we speak.
So that's how they're pulling this off.
And you see it system-wide across the nation in all the core Democrat strongholds.
steve bannon
A couple things here.
You're a former AG in Kansas and you have a reputation of being a relentless investigator.
I understand that you're under time pressure and I know you've got a data team and you've got other teams.
How, in the filing of your cases, How are you going to have enough time to actually present the evidence?
If you look at your categories, and you go down, and for purposes of discussion, I say, hey, he's got the receipts for every one, it's overwhelming.
But on the timing issue, how can you actually pull it together in time enough to actually make the presentations you're going to have to make pretty shortly, like within the next 72 hours to kind of kick this thing off?
phill kline
Yeah, there are actually three avenues here.
One avenue is to the United States Supreme Court, and the evidence that needs to be presented there is much more narrow.
It is what's called disparate impact, that the state treated voters differently based on a demographic, and they did that improperly.
That evidence we have, and we can marshal that fairly quickly.
That's the evidence we have in Pennsylvania, we have it in Michigan, we have it in Georgia, we're developing it in Arizona and Nevada.
And Wisconsin, we just filed, Steve, today, and our experts show there are 200,000 ballots in question in Wisconsin.
And I think that's setting at what, 30,000 vote difference?
So 200,000 ballots in question.
We are putting together the litigation that shows a violation of equal protection, Bush v. Gore violations, to go to the United States Supreme Court.
Our other audiences out there are legislators and canvassing boards so that they know this was an unprecedented infusion of private monies and private management of our elections.
They should hold off.
And the state legislatures, they might consider not certifying their state.
And then our last effort is to preserve the evidence so we make sure this does not happen again.
So in other words, we're not stopping.
I know the time frame is short for this presidential election, but we're not stopping.
We're going to get at the truth.
steve bannon
Let me go back, for instance, on the second one, which is the canvassing boards, the executive branch, and the state legislatures.
Today, you're actually in the certification process, and I realize the certification process sometimes takes on a legal term that doesn't really have it because you've got the ability to audit afterwards and then bring it to fruition, but you've got Michigan and Pennsylvania.
You've got states where, like in Wisconsin, you're fine because you have the audit going on now.
You've got time.
In Michigan, you're having this fracas right now.
With the certification.
In Pennsylvania, you're having it today and tomorrow.
How do you insert yourself in the process of your lawsuits?
How do you insert yourself into the certification process?
phill kline
Well, there's a lawsuit that we're looking at in Michigan that would allow a direct hearing by the Michigan Supreme Court.
Now, I don't know if we'll be able to be successful because our group has some standing issues.
We're not in the strongest position as a litigant to get it there.
Actually, the president is, and the United States Senate candidate is in a stronger position.
But the remedy there is to capture all the ballots.
The Supreme Court, if they find that they can't have faith in the election, grabs all the ballots.
And so that is an avenue that's available to us in Michigan still.
The Michigan legislature doesn't have to abide by what the State Board of Canvassers does.
They could seat their own electors.
That's another way.
That Michigan can still be changed.
I would say those are long odds, but I would say that that still exists as a possibility under law.
Pennsylvania, it's similar.
State Board of Canvassers, if they certify this election, the Pennsylvania legislature can, in a joint session, decide to investigate and also review and elect So, we're hoping that both legislatures will do that, and if we present evidence, they will consider not certifying the election.
So, those avenues are still open under law, but of course the door is closing, as you can see.
steve bannon
Phil, can you hang on one second?
I'm going to take a short commercial break, pay some bills here, and I want to come back to you.
I've got a couple questions about Zuckerberg and a couple questions about evidence.
You keep hearing this mantra on the left that there's no evidence.
There's no evidence.
There's no evidence.
In every article, it's in every TV show that you don't have any evidence.
So we'll come back.
We've got Phil Klein from the Thomas More Society, the Amistad Project, the tip of the spear of a number of these suits.
We're going to return on War Room Pandemic in just a moment.
phill kline
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steve bannon
Welcome back to War Room Pandemic.
We've got Phil Klein from the Thomas More Society Amistad Project.
First, Phil, and we asked this of Senator Kohlbeck, the media just says non-stop, there's no evidence, this is all baseless, Trump's running around, it's just he's making stuff up, all his people are lying.
In fact, the New York Times now, not the editorial page, in the news story, it's all baseless, it's false information, it's fake news.
In your mind, what is evidence here, and what do you guys actually have as evidence?
phill kline
Well, and I'll break it down into specific evidence here in a second, but I find this humorous, this effort at deception and deceiving the American people.
The evidence is out there in front of their eyes, and they refuse to see it.
If I was doing an investigation of you financially, And I had a search warrant to find financial documents in your home.
And I showed up at the front door.
You locked the door.
And on a July summer day, I suddenly saw smoke coming from the chimney.
That's evidence.
You know, the papers are being burned.
We need to get in the home.
And we've got plenty of that type of circumstantial evidence.
They kicked Republicans out.
They keep them out.
And now we have evidence they're altering the books while we remain on the outside.
That's serious evidence.
We have specific evidence as it relates to people who are ordered to commit fraud within the polling place.
We have evidence of all of this impact of the infusions of thousands of ballots through data analysis that shows unprecedented and unexplained spikes of drops of thousands of Biden votes in the urban core.
We have the evidence of a plan that's played out where everybody in these swing states in the urban core, one has Zuckerberg money, two marches by the same drummer and does their election in the same way.
That doesn't happen.
By the way, each of these cities performed the same type of election, and each of these They're still printing.
I asked for the printing a couple of hours ago.
state law where the Republican areas performed differently because they followed the law.
That's strong evidence.
And I'll tell you what, I had my staff print out the affidavits that we have.
They're still printing.
I asked for the printing a couple of hours ago.
I wanted to see the hard copies rather than just the reports.
There are thousands, well, hundreds of affidavits that have come forward.
But the most compelling, Steve, are the ones from a county clerk of a Republican-dominant county who says, this is how we did the election.
And then we, through lawsuits, have proven and forced Democrat clerks To state they did the election differently and the way they did it is contrary to law.
The way the Republicans did it is consistent with the law and the way the Democrats did it, it made it easier for Democrats to vote.
The way the Republicans did it, they did it according to law and they didn't favor any voter.
That's strong evidence for the United States Supreme Court.
It's just the mainstream media doesn't want to hear it.
It doesn't fit their narrative.
steve bannon
Heads are blowing up, I think, on many things you said, but particularly, currently, they're altering the books, even as we speak.
What do you mean by that, and what proof do you have that that's happening?
phill kline
Well, we, in Pennsylvania, for example, in Center County, we pulled down the election results, and there were some things that would raise concerns, questions that need to be investigated about who voted.
Things like Louisa May Smith, Louisa June Smith, Louisa July Smith, Louisa August Smith, Louisa September Smith.
And as we pulled down that data and started to mine it for these anomalies, we purchased the data again two weeks later.
And guess what?
There's not all these Louisa give me a month Smiths in the book anymore.
They've been consolidated into one person.
So what that shows, and I'm not saying that's fraud, it shows they have preserved the ability to manage the books, to make it look better, even as litigation is going forward.
And that's not proper.
If I have subpoenaed your records, if I am suing you and your records are at issue, you shouldn't be left alone in the room to do what you want with those records and alter those records.
unidentified
That's what's happening right now.
phill kline
And that needs to be stopped.
So, you know, you've got the back end trying to cover it up.
We've got other examples where they have co-mingled the jump drives from these various machines, unbreaking the seal and co-mingling them, making it difficult to run the chain of custody of the jump drive with the vote back to the machine that read the count.
We have co-mingling of ballots.
They take ballots which were supposed to be kept apart, they co-mingle them, it becomes impossible to audit.
That type of stuff is going on in these cities right now.
steve bannon
Don't you have enough probable cause that you go in and seize the books or just seize the process and make sure that it's totally secure even over and above the election officials?
Because you obviously can't trust them.
And when you think about the Dominion systems, and particularly as we're told, that they don't even need to flow it back to servers outside the country, that the changes can be made, all the data that you need is right on the machine right there.
Why is no one going into legal authorities with probable cause and having the machine seized, the book seized, all of that seized, like, immediately?
If you've got so much compelling evidence, why are you not doing it, or why is the campaign not doing it, or why is the state party officials not doing it?
unidentified
Well, I think there is evidence to do that.
phill kline
And I think that it takes, and all the experts will tell you something real simple, Steve, You don't know what happened with these machines unless you get the computer logs.
And they're refusing the computer logs.
That is sufficient for law enforcement to move in.
I don't know where law enforcement has been on this.
I can tell you this.
There are machines in law enforcement custody.
I can't reveal any more than that.
We have tried.
We have asked for judges to stop this process and have been turned down.
And the only way I can explain that is if we are with the deconstruction of law and deconstruction of truth.
And the best example is in Michigan, where the law says, as these inspectors have these ballots and the flawed ballot, and they're actually filling out a new ballot.
So I've got a person's ballot who won't run through the machine.
Then I sit there with four other people and I vote for them.
I actually complete the new ballot, feed it and cast it.
So I think they voted for Biden.
I'm going to vote for Biden.
These people are doing this to tens of thousands of ballots.
The law says a person must be in the place where this is done.
A Republican and a Democrat may sign the form that it was done correctly.
That makes sense.
But what they did is they put all 134 of these counting boards now into one location.
They put the Republican up in the cheap seat so that they couldn't see what was going on.
And they claim they were in accordance with the law because a Republican was in the place.
He was in the place.
Well, Detroit's a place and there's a Republican there.
That's how bad this lack of truth and understanding of words is, and judges are agreeing with it.
The clear purpose of the law is to make sure that the election was done with integrity, not that there's a human being that's alive and breathing that can't see the count that is in the city where the count occurred.
But judges can't see past it because of their partisanship or the deconstruction of truth.
It is shocking.
We have a lawless election because we have a judicial system.
Many of those people don't believe in truth anymore.
So, it's the best I can explain it.
We have the evidence.
That stuff should be stopped.
It should be seized.
But we can't get the judges to move.
jack maxey
Phil, this is Jack Max.
I have a question about the integrity of the actual data inside the voter rolls.
It's one thing to have the county be able to go in and change things after the fact while we're in this period of discussion about securing that data.
What about these third parties that many of these states allowed access to their voter rolls to register people on the streets because of COVID and all this stuff?
Do these third party, these non-governmental actors still have access?
To these voter rolls?
Are they still able to go in there and change addresses willy-nilly?
phill kline
Well, and let me go to the first point first.
Those people entering registrations.
It used to be that like the League of Women Voters would have the table, you fill out the information, they give it to a clerk.
The reason they give it to the election clerk is one, there's transparency.
That clerk has a geographic responsibility.
They put the data in and everybody could check and see if they're doing their job and FOIA that information.
Two, they have political accountability.
If they screw up, you fire them.
Now, when you give that access out to third parties, there's no transparency.
There's no political accountability.
We've heard all the discussions about how easy it is to access our poll books and hack them from without.
We've given another vulnerable point to those within the system.
It doesn't have to be rock the votes intent.
It could be a nefarious actor who is volunteering for them who could easily penetrate this system and add new registrants to the poll.
And on the back end, that's what we're seeing.
We're seeing people who are suddenly registered in their old states under old names who have voted.
We're seeing new creations of people who have requested absentee ballots.
We're seeing all the evidence that somebody got into those poll books and altered the poll books.
I believe it comes through that third party access.
On the back end, there are groups involved in deciding the poll books.
One of them is the Center for Election Innovation.
and research. Mark Zuckerberg gave them 50 million dollars.
They've been involved on the back end and all the way through the process designing the software as it relates to our poll books. So yes, they have made it vulnerable to political activists who are funded by a billionaire.
steve bannon
Phil, can I just stay through one more commercial break?
I've just got a couple more questions we've got to get to because the online's blowing up now with people that want to ask you questions.
Phil Klein, the Thomas More Society, Amistad Project, putting out a number of lawsuits focused on Zuckerberg, these other outside groups, non-governmental groups, and these public-private partnerships.
Also knows about the changing of the altering these books and the machines.
Phil Clines, former Attorney General of Kansas, is going to return and join us in a minute.
phill kline
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steve bannon
Welcome back, we've got Phil Kline.
Phil, just briefly, I know you've got to go.
You said law enforcement has, and you can't give a lot more detail or any more detail, law enforcement has, you think, already seized some of these machines.
Did they do that as an act of making sure that we could get into this later, or was it a fear of things being destroyed, or what was, do you know what the purpose or objective of the seizure of those machines by law enforcement?
phill kline
I'm unable to tell you that.
I know the purpose is to investigate.
steve bannon
To investigate, okay.
Is there anything else I can answer on that before I move on to the next topic?
unidentified
Going once, going twice, going three times.
steve bannon
Okay, Phil, Zuckerberg, this seems like it was pretty well thought through.
Do you think that he's got personal liability or, I mean, how are you pursuing this as Zuckerberg and his institution, that $400 million that he put in here and only a couple million dollars in the Republican areas?
phill kline
Yeah, I don't think any of it is a crime.
But I think there was a legal use of the money contrary to state election laws.
That doesn't impose liability on him.
I believe the city governments are the ones that improperly used private money to try to target a demographic to turn out to vote.
And that's a violation of equal protection, and also a violation of state election laws.
steve bannon
So for him to vote the money's fine.
He's a private citizen.
He put it up.
It's their use of going to these public-private partnerships and not disclosing it and giving these people access that was not disclosed in whatever they did.
So that's where your investigation is going.
going.
phill kline
And then America has to answer...
steve bannon
Does any of this right now, do you think, in where you're headed, will either act as an adjunct or act in a support function or actually itself decertify either Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania, the three big ones I guess you're focused in right now?
unidentified
Thank you.
phill kline
Yeah, I think, well, in court, the Michigan effort is growing very narrow and slim.
I think there's a possibility in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
As well as another state or two.
So, yes.
But it's in conjunction with the other things.
It's how it was used and how it created a two-tier election system that I think the United States Supreme Court is going to be interested in.
In fact, Alan Dershowitz in a column this morning that I read, I can't remember what newspaper, pulled out one of our lawsuits and spoke to that as one of the primary avenues to get to the United States Supreme Court.
So, that possibility exists.
steve bannon
Yeah, he actually said it on Maria Bartiromo.
That's why we had you and Kelly's lawsuit on here in the same hour on today's show, because I think Dershowitz focused on both you guys as being a short path to the Supreme Court.
Phil, how do people get more access to you?
How do they find out more about Thomas More?
How do they find out more about Amistad?
How can they help contribute?
Give all the information you need.
We want our audience to be actively engaged here.
So tell us how they get access to you.
phill kline
Very helpful.
I don't have $400 million in my pocket to battle this fight.
steve bannon
www.... You haven't called Zuckerberg yet and asked for a donation?
phill kline
Maybe I ought to do that, Steve.
We'll put out the call.
I could use it.
We're a 501C.
We're nonpartisan.
www.got-freedom.com.
steve bannon
Okay, Phil Klein, thank you so much.
Great, you're an American patriot.
Let's go now, I'll tell you what, before we get to, before we get to our, let's, Vish, can we play the, Vish, producer Vish, can we play the, get Denver to play the, what we've got to tee up our next guest, Liz Yor?
Okay, go ahead and roll it.
unidentified
Looking at the problems in society, and especially those of social justice, sport can be a means, a good means of resolving them.
This we should always remember.
Because your message is the goodwill of sports.
But also working together as a team.
To work as a community.
sport. E' vero. Because your message is the goodwill of sports. Ma anche il lavoro in equip. But also working together as a team. La comunità.
Il comunitario. To work as a community. You're champions. E anche dando questo esempio di equip, diventate umili.
But giving us also...
Giving the good example of teamwork, but always remaining humble.
Giving the good example of teamwork but always remaining humble.
That's a beautiful example.
And always preserving humanity, your own humanity.
Sport helps us to be more human.
steve bannon
That was Pope Francis with certain NBA stars meeting today.
And I have no problem, we're going to bring Liz here in a second, I have no problem meeting with NBA stars and talking about sports and how sports brings leadership and community and role models.
The issue I think is Cardinal Zen.
What, 88 years old or, you know, very, very old, flies over, takes a 15-hour flight from Hong Kong to Vatican, hangs around for a couple of days.
He just wants to meet.
He just wants to come by like there and get a cup of coffee and talk, you know, about the Chinese deal before they extended, the secret Chinese deal that crushes the underground Catholic Church, throws all these saints under the bus.
He flies there.
He can't get a meet.
I mean, the NBA guys, they get a meetin'.
The Cardinal Zen on just a tiny issue about the church in China can't get a meeting.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Pompeo goes, the Secretary of State, he's over there.
He can't get a meeting.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Talking about world peace and how we keep the peace and how we, you know, live in brotherhood and all that.
Can't get a meeting.
So you can't meet with Pompeo, you can't meet with Cardinal Zen, but we've got time to meet with the NBA stars.
And I actually think it is a positive thing to meet with the NBA stars.
I'm not saying it's a negative thing, but you've got to prioritize.
Cardinal Zen, Cardinal Zen, who, look, I think is the holiest guy in the Catholic Church, and a living saint, Cardinal Zen goes over there, flies 15 hours, he can't, three days, four days, finally, he says, hey, these guys aren't going to meet with me.
And yet, he's meeting with everybody else.
I want to bring in now Liz Yor, and I see Jack Maxey just jumping to get in this conversation.
Liz, I turn it over to Liz Yor and Jack Maxey.
Liz, what in the heck is going on here?
liz yore
Well, Steve, the Twitterverse doesn't agree with you.
They're calling it the sellout to China conference, or the sellout to China meeting between the NBA and the Pope.
Or they're calling it the Friends of the CCP meeting in the Vatican.
You know, as we all know, the NBA has a huge $5 billion fan base in China.
Up until about 2019, they had many training academies in Xinjiang in China, which is the center of the Uyghur persecution, where up to 1 to 3 million Uyghurs are in detention.
There's been notorious mass murder of Uyghurs and torture of Uyghurs in the very place where the NBA has its training academies.
So to have the millionaires from the NBA come and discuss social justice is much like having the Pope, as the Pope did, having George Clooney and Leo DiCaprio, Hollywood's millionaires, come and talk, fly into the Vatican on their private planes and talk about climate change.
But, you know, to me and to the Twitterverse, they were insanely furious about this meeting.
And, you know, they were calling it, where reality is funnier than satire.
And it was both the Rockets and I think the Milwaukee Bucks who showed up, and actually the Pope asked them to come, and he gave them an hour of his time.
Pull back the curtain.
This is what I think is happening.
I think this is, you know, the coordination of the Great Reset.
The Pope has an important role, as we know, to play in it.
It's the Great Reset has the celebrities, the sports stars, the Hollywood stars, they play their role.
And I think that's what was going on in this bells and whistles fancy gold basketball that the Pope received in his jersey.
This is what we're going to be seeing more and more from the Pope.
And, you know, it's really an insult to the persecuted Chinese, who, when their very spokesman, Zen, as you pointed out, couldn't get five minutes with Francis.
And we know what happened to General Manager Daryl Morey at the Houston Rockets when he dared to criticize what the CCP was doing in Hong Kong.
So, you know, this puts front and center the Pope's alliance.
With the CCP and frankly the NBA's alliance with the CCP in China.
steve bannon
Go through, what do you talk about, what do you mean the Great Reset?
How does the party of Davos, the World Economic Forum, the Sustainability Goals 2030, the Great Reset, COVID, what does that have to do with the Vatican?
liz yore
Well, the Vatican's been there front and center.
Pope Francis has provided the Pontifical Academy as the endowment and conference center of the Great Reset, where they have presented conference after conference about COVID, climate change.
The UN Sustainable Development Goals has been the constant drumbeat at the Vatican.
And you know, even the language now, they're all using this language, re-imagine the world.
You know, a little like defund the police and re-imagine the police.
The language, you're going to see common language coming up.
But the Vatican, as President Xi of China said, all roads lead to Rome.
That's what he said when he was in Davos.
And the Vatican has provided the platform, the think tank, For this Great Reset, and you know, now that the McCarrick Report is out of the way, Francis is going to roll out his role in the Great Reset.
By the way, he just wrote a book, or had a ghost wrote it, written, and this book, 150 pages, is Let Us Dream.
You know, Let Us Dream is the language of the utopian of the Great Reset.
In the book, he trashes populism, equates it with Nazism, criticizes the large crowds that are coming.
He doesn't mention Trump, but clearly the suggestion is an implication.
It's the Trump crowd that come with adoring gratitude to their leader.
He denounces, he denounces those that criticize the lockdown.
And says that, you know, having a lockdown is important for health.
So therefore, all the organizations and conferences and protests now that are popping up all over the world, 4 million people on the streets of Berlin protesting the lockdown.
It's not just in the United States.
All over the world they're protesting the lockdown.
Got the party line of the Davos group that the lockdowns are needed for health, for safety, and to reimagine the world, to reimagine the economy, which we just saw last week in his economy of Francesco, which was to promote worldwide socialism and to reset the economy.
In light of what Klaus Schwab has said, that we're going to reset the world economy and population as a result of the pandemic.
So it's all happening in the Vatican.
You have to watch how France operates.
They bring out the celebrities when they want to glitz up the Great Reset and the NBA, you know, the NBA, and talking about the social justice, the racism card, which is an integral part of undermining the unity in the United States in promoting the violence in the street.
steve bannon
Liz, we've got to bounce, we're going to break, and we'll give you a Twitter handle on the other side of that.
Liz, you're, we're going to return in a minute, Gianna Bianco.
Jack, you had some observations about the meeting with the NBA stars and the Pope.
What was it?
jack maxey
Well, number one, there's no social distancing.
Nobody is wearing a mask.
And I thought that Italy was in the crisis of this new wave of, you know, fear and danger.
And yet there's the Pope, he doesn't have a care in the world, but the rest of us should hunker down in our basements, right?
All of Australia should be locked down and no one should enjoy Thanksgiving.
steve bannon
Greg, you've got a tweet from the President of the United States?
greg manz
Yes, the President has tweeted following the news that the GSA is going to go forward with the transition process.
It reads, I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our country.
She has been harassed, threatened, and abused, and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA.
Our case strongly continues.
We will keep up the good fight, and I believe we will prevail.
Nevertheless, in the best interest of our country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and I have told my team to do the same.
steve bannon
Our guest now is Jonna Bianco from the American Bondholders Foundation and one of the deplorables who is a big supporter of President Trump.
How do you respond to that tweet and the fact that the President has given the GSA authority to go ahead and start a transition process?
unidentified
Well, I think he's just trying to appease so many on the left.
I don't approve of it.
I don't agree with it.
I think he's just trying to make light of the current circumstances with the staff and the pressures that they are under.
I know in his heart and that of all the deplorables out there, me being a proud one, Joe Biden is not the president.
He's not the president-elect.
The media does not select who the president is.
And I think that that will all come out in the courtroom.
steve bannon
Any doubt in your mind from the evidence you've seen, the facts you've seen, that Joe Biden, his claims upon this are totally illegitimate and illegal?
unidentified
I don't have a doubt one whatsoever.
He did not get the votes that he claims he has.
They are trying to steal this election.
There's no doubt in my mind in the 70 plus million Americans that deplorables that voted For President Trump to remain in office another four years, they know it as well.
And I'm here to tell you that they, just like we've seen in the polls, in the media, they have underestimated these deplorables and they are in full action.
The truth is coming out.
The facts are coming out.
Whether the left media wants to announce it or not, I mean, we can go back to old school.
The message, the information, it will get out, whether they ban us from Facebook or Twitter or whether the mainstream, lamestream media of CNN, CNBC, etc.
want to put the truth out.
The deplorables know the truth, and we will put it out to the world.
steve bannon
John, I gotta ask you, I think you were temporarily banned from Twitter, or maybe you've been banned by a piece that you put up that you refused to take down.
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but what was the piece, what did it say, what was so controversial about it, and why are you somehow crossways with Twitter?
unidentified
Well, first of all, anybody and everybody who speaks out against the Chinese Communist Party or their little minions that they have around the world will be censored.
I mean, we've seen it over and over, whether it's War Room or whether it's me or anybody else.
I had read an article about that G News, our dear friend Miles had put out regarding the ties and the association to Dominion.
And in fact, I'll hold it up.
I printed it off.
This is it right here.
Don't know if you can see it.
But it was the G News, the link between Dominion, Sequoia, Smartmatic, and the Chinese Communist Party.
The Chinese Communist Party, as we know, is ruthless.
They hate this president.
They hate freedom.
They hate what we stand for.
And they've done everything to try to destroy that and take that down.
Their fingerprints are all over this election and the corruption and the fraud that we've seen.
I stand behind Sidney Powell's representations, and all 70-plus million deplorables need to do the same, as well as standing behind Rudy.
They're going at this under a two-avenue approach, and we will be successful.
With that said, I posted that article, because it's in very, very detailed, categorized, of who's who and what's what, and it names the names, and how they're involved in the U.S.' election and it got banned.
And so then I was put in the Twitter jail timeout for eight hours and that extended to 12 hours.
And now permanently either I agree to remove that post, otherwise it's a permanent ban.
So I'm carrying the badge of honor to be a permanently banned Twitter person.
And Jack, Jack, Jack, I have a message for you.
You can ban us all you want, but the 70-plus million deplorables out there have abandoned you and more to come, and we will get our message out.
We don't need your platform any longer.
You're going to go down in flames, my friend, and all the billions of dollars that you think you have will be in the pockets of the deplorables when we own your ass.
Do you understand?
steve bannon
One last thing, what is it about, does Twitter, anybody come back to you or has the left, anybody come back and said what's their problem with the article or is there specific details that they think are wrong and should be changed?
Has anybody come back and questioned pieces in the article to you or to anybody else?
unidentified
No, they just say that I violated Twitter rules with the article and I have to agree to remove the article.
They consider it, if you look at the Twitter rules, they consider it false and fictitious information.
steve bannon
How do people get to you, get to the website of the American Bond Foundation and find more about you and more about your organization?
unidentified
You can reach us at AmericanBondholdersFoundation.com.
We're up on Parler.
We're also up on Twitter at ABF USA.
Facebook, ABF Bondholders.
You can find us.
All of these Silicon Valley high-tech companies that are being backed by the Chinese Communist Party, your day is coming.
And the Chinese Communist Party will end up having to pay trillions of dollars ...for the defaulted debts that they owe, which you can find out about at our website at American Bondholders Foundation, but also the damage, economic damage, that they have done because of their plague.
steve bannon
CCB virus.
Okay, John Bianco, thank you very much.
Tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, we'll do it again.
We're going to have more information, more details about Pennsylvania, about what they call evidence.
The evidence is rolling in.
It's pretty voluminous and pretty shocking.
The finesse actually wasn't so much a finesse, it was kind of just an outright grab.
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