Nov. 20, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room Pandemic. | ||
| We're live on Capitol Hill. | ||
| It's the 19th of November, the year of our Lord 2020. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| We have our co-host Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Gaetz is always looking to trade up, right? | ||
| So he had a bigger and better deal he was leaving for. | ||
| We're going to stick for the second hour until we said that Darren Batey reminded him. | ||
| Darren Batey is our first guest. | ||
| He says, Darren Batey does ten times more work at Revolver than he ever did for me. | ||
| He wanted to be here for the... Revolver is the hottest site around, hottest news site. | ||
| It's the new drudge. | ||
| It's actually an opposition. | ||
| And they've got a great piece up, or they had a piece yesterday, is Fox, the controlled opposition, which I wanted Darren on to walk through and explain. | ||
| However, in the middle of that, Darren Beatty, former speechwriter at the White House, and one of the brightest guys we had there. | ||
| I think Pottinger and General Spaulding and Beatty would be the three smartest guys at the White House at the time. | ||
| You got put on a historical commission, a commission to take care of monuments and things overseas, and literally Beatty The left has beyond melted down, right? | ||
| You would think the president made you the ambassador to the United Nations. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And why do you trigger... That's next week. | ||
| You're such a nice guy. | ||
| Why do you trigger such a nice, unassuming guy? | ||
| Why do you trigger people like this? | ||
| Well, it's a very good question. | ||
| And I think I have an answer to that. | ||
| And actually, there is an article about the function of journalism from the Columbia Review of Journalism and it's particularly relevant because they say that the function of journalists is to have the power to designate enemies and put and metaphorically put their heads on pikes. | ||
| They use that same metaphor as what the proper function of a journalist was. | ||
| And as you and many others know, that's precisely what these fake news hit piece types tried to do to me Over two years ago is put my head on more metaphorical pike. | ||
| And so to see someone that they've attempted to destroy in that fashion, come back and be successful in any way, sends a chill down their spine and sends them into a rage, because it demonstrates that they don't have the power that they thought they had, and think that they're entitled to. | ||
| What exactly did the president put you on? | ||
| What's the commission? | ||
| What do you guys focus on? | ||
| And why are you particularly a good pick for that? | ||
| Well, actually, it's a little-known board. | ||
| It's an independent government agency. | ||
| So the real beauty of it is that Biden won't be able to remove me. | ||
| So it's a very good appointment. | ||
| And the purpose of it is actually a very serious and important function that I take very seriously. | ||
| People have described it as the Holocaust Board because one of its chief and most important functions is to preserve sites in Eastern Europe and other locations that are relevant to the Holocaust to preserve the memory and such of those sites. | ||
| But it's not just that it's also sites related to communism, victims of communism and, and other historical and culturally significant events relevant relevant to American citizens. | ||
| So it's actually it's an obscure board, but I take the responsibility very seriously. | ||
| And I consider it an honor to be named to the board. | ||
| And I look forward to discharging those responsibilities with my full Focus and talent. | ||
| Hey Darren, it's your former employer Matt Gaetz here, and if folks want to read about Darren Beattie, they can. | ||
| In my book, Firebrand, I actually write about Darren and what a brilliant guy he is and how lucky some of us are to be able to interact with those who can really put together a lot of the political philosophy along with what's going on, and I know that the readers at Revolver News are getting the benefit of your brilliance there as well. | ||
| Darren, what's happening at Fox News? | ||
| No, that's a great question, because I think there's still a lot of good people at Fox News, particularly in the evening lineup, but Fox really has made a devastating error beginning, I think, with the Arizona election call, which is really inexplicable. | ||
| It was almost as though they were too eager to jump ahead of themselves and declare a state that turned out, whatever the end result might be, it was extremely close. | ||
| You know, totally belies any justification for calling it in the in the fashion that Fox did. | ||
| And subsequently, we've seen all kinds of bizarre events from, you know, principally the daytime lineup of really trying to force this narrative. | ||
| Oh, Joe Biden, president elect, nothing, nothing awry, nothing, nothing remiss here. | ||
| No serious irregularities and even kind of Scorning people who would dare to suggest that maybe there could be some irregularities when there's certainly circumstantial evidence and maybe even stronger evidence that there are so it seems like there was some kind of decision made at the top to stick the knife in Trump and a lot of people have taken notice and they're hemorrhaging ratings right now and for good reason. | ||
| I think it's been coming for a while with some of the programming there, and you know, Darren, the Ailes era at Fox News was really all about vision. | ||
| I mean, my sister was a producer at Fox News during the Ailes era, and what she said is that, like, you basically knew from the beginning of the day what was going to be in the A block and the B block of your show. | ||
| And then what you wanted to do beyond that, you know, was based on the news you were able to kick up. | ||
| Now, you may love Jeff Zucker, you may hate Jeff Zucker, but that is a man who installs his vision into the programming of every hour at CNN. | ||
| And right now, CNN is beating Fox News in a pretty substantial number of hours in the head-to-head. | ||
| So, you know, do you think that it is a lack of vision or a bad vision at Fox now, Darren? | ||
| I think it's a bad vision, but a bad vision that is not actuated with enough force such that it becomes confused and could look like a lack of vision. | ||
| Low energy bad. | ||
| It's a low energy bad vision, precisely. | ||
| And there's an ambiguity there because of the split between daytime And the opinion lineup. | ||
| And I think, I think really what they're trying to do, and this is just speculative on my part, I think, from the top, there was this idea that we want to stick the knife in Trump. | ||
| But I don't think they want to go for a full pro Biden, reband, rebrand, I could be wrong about that. | ||
| And so they're trying to thread, thread the needle there and stick the knife in by ignoring the coverage of You know, fraudulent election, which infuriates people, infuriates the Trump's base more than anything. | ||
| And then thinking, OK, once we get to an inauguration day in which Biden becomes the president, then they could pivot perhaps to the latest outrage of the Biden administration. | ||
| But you use a provocative term in your headline of your story, which was the lead for for half the day. | ||
| You call it the controlled opposition. | ||
| That's a term of art. | ||
| Tell us what you mean by that, because I think that's what attracted a lot of people to the piece. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think, in some ways, if I'm being honest, I almost think that the title Is misleading because I think what you could argue that up until this point, in many respects, Fox's function was a kind of controlled opposition, but controlled opposition has to pretend at least as though it's an opposition. | ||
| And so what you're seeing is a kind of mask off situation in which Fox and in many instances, Is simply revealing itself to, um, to not be an opposition at all. | ||
| And I think this is part of a, you know, interesting trend is you see that when you have a full consolidation of power, a full convergence of power, a controlled opposition is no longer even necessary. | ||
| A controlled opposition is at least lip service to some necessity to have a pretense of choice. | ||
| A pretense of democracy. | ||
| And once there's a full convergence of power, that pretense is no longer needed. | ||
| So I actually think what we're seeing is a move away from controlled opposition to overt unilateralism when it comes to the media. | ||
| Just quickly, what is your definition for the audience, for controlled opposition? | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| I mean, it's just, I don't have a precise definition, but the basic idea is that people want choice. | ||
| People want the impression that, oh, I have two or even more things to choose from, politically and otherwise. | ||
| And so the idea of a controlled opposition would be, oh, we want to have Fox, and that will function as a quote-unquote conservative network. | ||
| And so it gives people an illusion of choice, but Really a lot of its function is to block out entire swaths of opinion from polite conversation, because when Fox, the quote-unquote conservative network, says it's so, that blocks everything else out. | ||
| So when Fox, the conservative network, says that Joe Biden is the president-elect, it's a done deal. | ||
| The conservative network says it. | ||
| Even Fox News says that Joe Biden's president-elect and that's, you know, the typical function of a controlled opposition is basically to control the parameters of discourse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You had something, Greg? | ||
| Yeah, so we've got breaking news out of Pennsylvania. | ||
| In a win for Republicans, 2,300 absentee ballots are invalid because the signer did not date their absentee ballot. | ||
| But this is the type of thing, 2,300, you're never going to get there. | ||
| I mean, isn't this to make you feel better? | ||
| Oh, we went through and found everything. | ||
| There was 5,600 ballots. | ||
| We've done our job. | ||
| And you go on? | ||
| So now it's incumbent on the rest of the counties to keep pressing forward on this. | ||
| What county is that coming from? | ||
| Allegheny County. | ||
| But Allegheny is the second biggest, right? | ||
| And Baca was the one in Philadelphia. | ||
| It could be extrapolated out to all the other counties, which is the positive thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Last thing, Darren, in the write-up about you when they were beating you down, it wasn't so much you'd gone to the Mencken, which is a historic conference, or you'd sat next to a guy who eventually had some controversial things he wrote about white nationalism that they pinned you on, because you happened to be on the same panel. | ||
| The thing that got them the most is that you had been writing about the color revolution. | ||
| I thought this was a big tab. | ||
| They're reading you. | ||
| They were most incensed that you brought up this concept of the Color Revolution. | ||
| Talk to people about what it is, and why this is now the bigger controversy you're associated with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, just very quickly, the Color Revolution is a specific type of regime change model favored by certain elements of our national security apparatus, and its two chief characteristics are engineered contested election scenario and massive mobilized protests. | ||
| So I think to many viewers that will seem familiar. | ||
| The reason it irritates people and really infuriates people is that it calls out a very specific component of our national security apparatus, these color revolution professionals. | ||
| And so what we've seen over the course of the past, um, really since Trump's election, was this really disturbing trend where broader swaths of our own national security apparatus are being repurposed and redeployed domestically to silence and suppress the energies associated with Donald Trump and his victory. And I think it's fairly uncontroversial that once you start | ||
| rattling the nest of the intelligence community, which really what a lot of this is, you're going to get a lot of blowback. | ||
| And that's gotten blowback. | ||
| The New York Times separately wrote an entire piece basically advocating for a reinterpretation of the First Amendment. | ||
| So articles precisely like the color revolution articles at revolver.news could be deemed hate speech and illegal. | ||
| How did they argue that? | ||
| What were the key points? | ||
| Well, the key points was simply using this ridiculous notion of disinformation, which is the new favored censorship predicate of our self-appointed commissars. | ||
| They used to use things like hate speech. | ||
| Now they use disinformation, which again, falls into this very trend that I'm speaking about. Disinformation is a term of psychological and information warfare that's used in our intelligence apparatus. By using the term disinformation, particularly when they attach it to a charge of Russian disinformation, they're not just saying, I find what this person's saying is abhorrent. | ||
| They're saying what this person is saying is a national security threat, and they are inviting the force of our own national security apparatus to silence speech in this country. | ||
| Darren, I've got a couple questions on Revolver. | ||
| Can you stay over through the break and take a short commercial break? | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| We've got some questions about Revolver since you guys are on fire. | ||
| Darren Beatty, one of the leaders over there at Revolver News. | ||
| He's going to join our co-host Matt Gaetz and the War Room team. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll return with Revolver News and Darren Beatty in a moment. | ||
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| pandemic with steven kate epidemic is a demon we can't let this team and hide and here's your host steven kate welcome back to the world so get their baby on from revolver news in the front his former boss medgates So, Darren, Matt's got some questions. | ||
| Before we get to Revolver, we've got some questions about what's happening in Congress and what is happening in the White House on the Afghan war. | ||
| Congressman Gaetz. | ||
| Well, Darren, Revolver has covered closely President Trump's drawdown in Afghanistan. | ||
| Tomorrow, in the House Armed Services Committee, Democrats will lead a hearing where they will bring in Pentagon officials who will ring their hands and express all kind of concern about the Afghanistan drawdown. | ||
| If you're sitting there in my seat and you've got five minutes to ask questions to the Pentagon brass to facilitate this drawdown and to execute on the America first foreign policy, what are you asking? | ||
| You're asking me? | ||
| Do we have one? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, I would ask them what the mission objectives are that should they occur, they would agree to a withdrawal of troops. | ||
| That is to say what these things are really forever wars. | ||
| And so either you end it or you don't. | ||
| And I think The American people, the American vets, veterans' families all agree it's time to bring the troops home. | ||
| And thank God that President Trump has led the charge on this. | ||
| And thank God that Congressman Matt Gaetz has been brave enough to push for this from very early on. | ||
| And I think it's about time. | ||
| And I just wish they were drawing it down to zero rather than the number that they have now. | ||
| But it's still a great... Well, Gaetz, what's your beef about 2,500 troops? | ||
| We've only been there 20 years. | ||
| 19 years. | ||
| What are we hoping to win with 2,500 troops that we couldn't do with tens of thousands? | ||
| Please tell me the cave we have to defend with 2,500 that's worth it to them. | ||
| Because you know what? | ||
| When America's best Come back in caskets draped in flags when I see these young men who speak multiple languages who are great family members who coach the ball team come back in because we're out there trying to train these Afghans to run their own damn country and then they turn on our service members It is heartbreaking. | ||
| And I cannot justify the maintenance of these low-yield wars. | ||
| And here's the deal. | ||
| If they put $2,500 there, then they have to justify the extraction forces, the logistics forces, the movement of the people. | ||
| All the contractors. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Someone's going to be selling toilet paper to those 2,500 people. | ||
| Mike Masters has got a second life on cable every night, countering what you're saying. | ||
| He's saying, oh, you're not including the force multiplier of the Afghan forces. | ||
| He says, we may lose one or two guys every six months, but they're losing 50 a day. | ||
| They're keeping the terrorists down. | ||
| If you bring them out, you're going to have another al-Qaeda. | ||
| They'll be planning attacks, and they'll be over here. | ||
| You represent Probably one of the most patriotic areas of the country with a very large, not just active-duty military, but tons of vets. | ||
| Do they have your back on this? | ||
| Are they united in saying, hey, we just gotta pull out, let's just get out? | ||
| Look, of course my constituents will go any place you ask them to, and they will lay their lives down. | ||
| They will die for this country any place they are asked. | ||
| And because they will go anywhere and fight any foe, it imposes a special obligation on those of us who are entrusted with the power to declare war, to use that power judiciously. | ||
| And this isn't... the difference between 2,500 and zero is so important because of the difference between zero and one. | ||
| If we leave Afghanistan, as we should, as we should have long ago, I think it would be very difficult for any future president to re-engage in that theater, based on the harm it has brought our country over time. | ||
| And, you know, if we leave some 2,500 troop force there, then there will be elasticity to that force, based on circumstances. | ||
| And, you know, you remember, Steve, our involvement in the Syrian civil war started with 40 guys. | ||
| And then all of a sudden we're embroiled in this sectarian violence where we're fun on all sides of the Syrian civil war. | ||
| And that can continue to be a problem in Afghanistan. | ||
| So I'm doing everything I can to encourage our president. | ||
| to execute on the values that he knows to be true. | ||
| And Darren is so good, and readers at Revolver News get the fact that this is all really a grift. And the grift costs the treasure of our nation and the blood of our bravest patriots. | ||
| But the reason we are engaged in these low-yield, unwinnable wars for unknowable gain for an extended period of time is because people make just a hell of a lot of money on it. | ||
| And I know I'm not supposed to use any of those words on this air, but it's 100 percent true. | ||
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It's so true. | |
| I'm almost inclined to say that I'd rather tabulate, figure out what all the big military contractors would make from keeping troops there. | ||
| Figure it out. | ||
| Just write them the check and say, here's your money. | ||
| Let's bring the troops home. | ||
| Here's what you would have made by the disastrous policy that you're advocating for. | ||
| Here's the check. | ||
| Go buy your house. | ||
| Bring the troops home. | ||
| There's the net present value, be happy. | ||
| Okay, on two topics, Afghanistan and these endless wars, and also the intel that's associated with the coup against President Trump at the beginning. | ||
| It seems like President Trump, at least what we hear and see, is that he orders people, he says, I want out of Afghanistan. | ||
| And it doesn't happen. | ||
| You still got some residual and guys are running around and they know if they can just get past Trump and keep the residual, it'll be fine. | ||
| The same with the intel dump. | ||
| Why is it, what is it around the President now that his policies, that he clearly is totally in line with the America First policies, totally in line with his voters in this Great Awakening that's going on, clearly in line with the victory he won on November 3rd, That, and they use sources and methods for the intel, which they've done from day one, and they use, oh well you need some residual force in Afghanistan for the terrorists. | ||
| Why can't he Just sit there and order it and somebody execute on that. | ||
| He's the chief manager. | ||
| That's a totally unfair question for you to ask everyone on this show who didn't work in the West Wing. | ||
| I mean, you're the one guy who worked there. | ||
| Why don't you tell us? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| The apparatus is so resistant to change that if you make a direct order, unless you follow up every second of every day and you're told, and particularly in Afghanistan in the summer of 17, And I say that he was lied to. | ||
| I mean, outright lied to about the cost, about actually how many people were there. | ||
| Because when you start counting up the contractors, when they said, oh, we only have 8,000 there, we actually got about 12,000 to 15,000. | ||
| But you got 40,000 contractors. | ||
| And the contractors are just not all there for logistics. | ||
| A third of the contractors are contractors out on special projects. | ||
| They're hearing shots fired in anger. | ||
| Special activities. | ||
| So, but why, in this transition period where he's got 70 days bonus on his second term, why now, right, particularly when he's got four years under his keel, can he not just sit there, particularly on two things that are very evident, Afghanistan, which for four years | ||
| He's dealt with it, he's been judicious, he's been diplomatic, and on the intel, which he's gone through, you know, Jordan, he's gone through everybody, Kelly telling guys, on these two issues, that people, that are very high priorities for the American first, why is it you think we can't effectuate the change that's necessary today? | ||
| There are so many forces in our government that just believe Donald Trump is a condition to be managed, not an opportunity to be seized. | ||
| And now they're just hunkered down and hoping, like, sort of that this will all be over soon and that they'll be able to wake up and go back to their cushy lives, expanding their bureaucratic empires, getting ready to roll out into their next lobbying or consulting job. | ||
| I mean, that is what is actually happening. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| If we don't finish the job, if we don't take this number from 2500 down to zero, one of two things is going to happen. | ||
| Joe Biden, you know, if he were to become the next president, is either going to jack that number up and hurt our country, or he's going to take it down to zero and he's going to try to steal credit for what President Trump has done to realign our politics, to realign our foreign policy, to put our country and our people first. | ||
| Darren, I'm going to ask you to stay. | ||
| I know we're going to lose Gates, so I've got to ask one question for Gates right now. | ||
| For our audience, and you saw the way they bought Firebrand, we want everybody to pile into this book, because you know what? | ||
| You've got to know Gates better. | ||
| I know he's an acquired taste, but so am I, and so is the President, okay? | ||
| These Firebrands are all kind of alike. | ||
| You've got to know Gates better. | ||
| He's a guy that is the tip of the spear of this. | ||
| What would you tell our audience who want to be actively involved and engaged? | ||
| They want actionable information. | ||
| What is your message for this audience of what to do next? | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously we are going to have to stay organized around our values. | ||
| A big part of it is what Darren Beatty has done at Revolver News, so that there is a place to go for aggregated information that is accurate and actionable. | ||
| But here's what we got coming, Steve. | ||
| The establishment is going to try to reconstitute. | ||
| They're going to try to, you know, take over Fox News, take over the Republican conference, and they're going to try to sort of rebrand our populist movement as this little blip as this sort of experience that we all had to go through and get out of our system like it's the damn chicken pox right but but but the country's with us the people are with us by a more motivated than ever to advocate for values because having been out on the road with this president How our nation thirsts for that real leadership. | ||
| And, you know, particularly on foreign policy, on trade, and on immigration, we need strong voices in the Congress. | ||
| We need up-and-coming voices to be able to continue to carry the mantle. | ||
| If I can summarize, for the President's team right now, you say you've got to close on this victory. | ||
| It's not about the future, it's about now. | ||
| We must do this now. | ||
| You focus on Georgia or Wisconsin. | ||
| If you get one to flip, The rest of the dominoes will fall. | ||
| One state flips, and those of us who've been telling the truth about fraud get to stand up and say, the media has lied to all of you, and now we can prove it. | ||
| That's when the entire house of cards starts to come down. | ||
| Take your partisan hat off for a second, but just as a guy that's in Congress, has an unbroken chain of obligations to people that came before you. | ||
| Given what we know today, could Joe Biden ever be considered a legitimate or legal President of the United States? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Listen, if Joe Biden is ultimately sworn in and gets the Electoral College votes, I am not going to do a what the Democrats did. I am not going to spend my time saying that this is an illegitimate president if ultimately he is sworn in. I will give him the respect if that is the case because I saw what they did to Donald Trump and I saw the way it hurt our country. It hurt how we dealt with foreign adversaries. It hurt how we dealt with our friends and so you know America first means you have to love this country more than you could ever hate any | ||
| politician. We just made some news here because Matt Gaetz is taking a different path than we are but that's no but I think that's great. | ||
| That's exactly what happens when you're in Congress. | ||
| You're going to take this hard drive and file impeachment against this guy? | ||
| I actually have sworn to never again take a hard drive from Jack Maxey. | ||
| I still can't get the images out of my mind on the last one you sent me. | ||
| He's got eyes in the back of his head. | ||
| Beatty's going to hang with us for our next. | ||
| We've got to get into Revolver News. | ||
| Matt Gaetz has got to leave. | ||
| The Congressman, thank you very much. | ||
| Gaetz is trading up. | ||
| We've got a bigger, better deal that showed up. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Banham. | ||
| Boy, I'm glad I don't have the burden of being in Congress. | ||
| I'd love me some Matt Gaetz, but we are going to be on different sides of the football. | ||
| First off, Joe Biden is not going to be President. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's illegitimate and illegal to go through this process, but I understand the burdens as a Congressman. | ||
| That you have to, you know, I'm not saying pull for all, because I don't think it's pulling for all in doing this. | ||
| But look, Gates is his own guy. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| He's one of the leaders. | ||
| He's a total firebrand. | ||
| Read the book before. | ||
| I know people's heads. | ||
| I'm sure people's heads are blowing up in the live chat in the hashtag War and Pandemic. | ||
| Knowing this posse as I do, right? | ||
| I imagine that they're blowing up. | ||
| I want to turn back, though, to Darren Beatty. | ||
| Darren, thank you for hanging in there. | ||
| Here's a question everybody's got. | ||
| Walk us through, just walk us through how you put, how Revolver's put together. | ||
| People are so in love with the content. | ||
| It's not just the way it looks, the way you scroll content up there. | ||
| It's where you find the buried leads, how you reposition. | ||
| I mean, this is, you guys are like Andrew at the top of his game, right? | ||
| Andrew Breitbart at the top of his game. | ||
| Walk us through, what are you guys trying to do with Revolver? | ||
| Because it's clearly the alternative for Drudge right now. | ||
| Right, well, a number of things. | ||
| I mean, it's not just Drudge in the sense that Revolver, I'm very happy and proud to say, has come forth with really first-rate investigative reporting, like the Color Revolution series that you mentioned, like the COVID study, which was very widely read, tweeted by the president, and absolutely had an effect on the president's discourse on the negative effects of the COVID lockdown. | ||
| We're an aggregation site, but we're also a site that produces first rate original reporting, investigative reporting, opinions, and so forth. | ||
| And I think one key one that's the special sauce of Revolver, as it were, is that I think you can find The most sophisticated, deeply thought out commentary and ideas anywhere that you'll ever find on on the on the internet, in politics, not just on the right, we have some of the most brilliant people in the country contributing. | ||
| But also you have just fun, entertaining stuff you have, you have something for everybody you have, you know, someone described it as a thinking man's tabloid and I was wondering should I consider that an insult but actually that's sort of close to where the vision actually is. I want it to be something that you know the smartest people in the country can read and profit from but also the just your | ||
| average reader who isn't you know that into politics or someone who's casually into it. | ||
| There's something for everyone and it's so hard to replicate. | ||
| I don't know anyone who does this that combines the high and the low in the way that Revolver does, and I think it's really something special and powerful for A, uh, all sorts of audience members. | ||
| Before I let you go, just generally, since you guys are doing such a great job in really putting forward the American First package, your advice to President Trump for this 60-day bonus period he's got for a second administration? | ||
| What do you think should be his priorities? | ||
| What should he be focused on right now? | ||
| And let's leave Afghanistan aside. | ||
| We know that, and we know how it's going. | ||
| Other than Afghanistan, what should be the two or three things he should be maniacally focused on right now? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Other than Afghanistan would have been by far my number one choice. | ||
| My number two choice, which actually isn't strictly in the purview of Trump, but I think it's something that his administration can get done that'd be deeply important is confirming Nathan Symington to the FCC. | ||
| It's a hugely important role. | ||
| It's relevant to whether we'll have a free internet or not. | ||
| There are five posts on the FCC is going to be one of those five and a tiebreaker. | ||
| He's totally with us when it comes to preserving or really recapturing a free and open internet without which We have no shot at winning. | ||
| If we don't have a free internet, if we don't have free channels of information flow, we are not going to win. | ||
| And so I think the confirmation of Nathan Symington, Trump has done his part, but that would be an amazing thing to have done in this transition period. | ||
| And I also think he should kind of go scorched earth on things. | ||
| I mean, I'm sort of in the Declassify crowd, you know, hold up the middle finger. | ||
| Because like this whole national security community, this Intel community, they've screwed him over from day one. | ||
| And there are a lot of things that the American people are entitled to know. | ||
| So I would definitely declassify all types of things that would embarrass his enemies who are at the same time the enemies of the American people. | ||
| And lastly, I would focus very strategically on pardons. | ||
| You know, this might be controversial to your audience, I don't know, but I'm an advocate of pardoning both Snowden and Assange. | ||
| Again, as a kind of repudiation of the very deep national security state. | ||
| Give us your logic for Snowden and Assange. | ||
| Well, I think I view both of them as heroes, as great people, as great journalists, I think. | ||
| But they're also symbolically, it's the biggest middle finger that Trump could possibly give to the thoroughly corrupt and rotten and malicious deep state That has screwed him over, screwed the American people over, and that deserved the humiliation that would entail in an Assange pardon. | ||
| And I think it actually would galvanize a whole faction of the country that would otherwise be not really disposed to like him. | ||
| But you're really going to get a lot of people on board and say, wow, Trump was the guy who finally did it. | ||
| That shows a lot of courage and integrity. | ||
| You're going to get a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't really consider being for Trump or being disposed in that direction at all. | ||
| So I think choosing pardons wisely would be another factor that I would focus on. | ||
| Darren, how can people get on your social media? | ||
| How do you get more access to Revolver News? | ||
| Yes, I'm on Twitter. | ||
| I'm actively at at Darren JBD, D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. | ||
| And as always, people can get the latest and the greatest. | ||
| Um, that the national security state hates, the left hates, pretty much everyone but American patriots and very high IQ people hate, and that is revolver.news. | ||
| It's the president's favorite alternative to drudge. | ||
| All the, you know, all the big people are reading it. | ||
| And so you should go on there now. | ||
| You can read the piece on Fox News. | ||
| It's, it's kind of a sensation at this point. | ||
| So go to revolver.news and check it out. | ||
| You've really come to your second career here, because in the hit pieces that took place over the last couple of days, you going to the renowned, famed Mencken Conference and sitting at a table with some guy who is known as an intellectual, but I guess had written some things on white nationalism, was offset by, it was the Color Revolution piece that actually had him melted down, so you're performing your function. | ||
| Hey Darren, I want to support you for saying the declassification. | ||
| I've been for it for the whole year. | ||
| I wanted him to do it last year during the impeachment because we probably would have solved a lot of this right now. | ||
| But secondarily, I also want to say congratulations on your new job. | ||
| You're perfectly suited for it. | ||
| You've got a great understanding of the Western canon. | ||
| You've been an ideal person for it. | ||
| And it's not like The President and Hillary Clinton were putting him in the job to be the chairman of the U.N. | ||
| World Food Program, like Hunter Biden was. | ||
| It's not like Valerie Biden-Owen, who was a senior representative to the U.N. | ||
| for the United States. | ||
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These people... They put Hunter on the board of Amtrak! | |
| Not a peep when these people were given jobs. | ||
| Well done, brother. | ||
| Stay in the fight. | ||
| Darren Badia, Revolver News. | ||
| Thank you, Darren. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You know, I advocated of putting this when they had the subpoenas to Rosenstein. | ||
| They should declassify the stuff then when they stopped the president. | ||
| They got this declassification. | ||
| And don't buy the bunkum about sources and methods. | ||
| That's just crap. | ||
| That's what they try to hide behind. | ||
| And what are the sources and methods? | ||
| Because everything that's on that hard drive was in the purview of Bill Preistap and Peter Strzok at the FBI as being in charge of counter-espionage. | ||
| Well, that's on Hunter Biden. | ||
| I'm talking about D-Class. | ||
| I'm talking about D-Class, all the information about the... | ||
| Oh, 100%, but it's not just that. | ||
| I mean, you could go back 20 years and open up the books on most things. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| And I also recommend, you say it all the time, go read the Venona Trials. | ||
| They actually have a searchable document. | ||
| You can put it in your next-door neighbor who looks askew at you and find whether or not he's in there. | ||
| I literally went in there and found some parents' friends, you know, friends of Lines parents, it wasn't pretty. | ||
| Don't cross Jack Maxey. | ||
| These people you knew at Skull and Bones? | ||
| Or as a Whiffenpoot? | ||
| Okay, we had during this, during the time here today, we actually had the task force press conference right after the meeting. | ||
| Jack Maxey, Mr. Pandemic, what happened at, was the scarf, was Ambassador Dr. Colonel Burks I actually think Ambassador Dr. Colonel Burks has finally been broken by the whole process. | ||
| She literally was, she did not seem confident. | ||
| She kept talking about, well, there's pink areas and red, and as you can see by the map, it's all very, it's a moving thing. | ||
| Now we can do things. | ||
| We can wear masks. | ||
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| And then you have the General come out and he gives a very good analysis about how we're going to move this vaccine around with a combination of working with FedEx, UPS, other vendors, and he's pointed out something that I thought was very bright. | ||
| He said, look, it's not like we don't do this every year with the influenza vaccine. | ||
| So they're going to get this thing distributed. | ||
| I have no problem with that. | ||
| But then you get Fauci comes out, right? | ||
| Fauci's all excited that great success of the Moderna vaccine, 95, 96 percent, you know, he says, this is really, you know, big league time for a vaccine and we've never done it this quick before. | ||
| And he said, now, I know there's a lot of people out there who think that this was just rushed through and we haven't followed all the guidance. | ||
| And he said, it's very important that we prove to the American people that we followed all the proper procedures. | ||
| Which on a comparative basis, it's hard to say that they have, which is OK. | ||
| I understand the emergency nature of it. | ||
| But then he doesn't follow up with any proof other than like, hey, it's going to be great, you know, and he steps out. | ||
| Then you have Redfield. | ||
| I get the impression that all these guys are trying to save their reputations for the histories that are coming, going to be coming back. | ||
| Redfield comes back. | ||
| He says it's very important that we Not get emotional as we make decisions about this virus that we have to maintain a scientific distance and make decisions on the facts. | ||
| and they reminds the audience that for example the cdc back in the spring said that we should not close the schools k through twelve goes into a screen about how k through twelve maybe one of the safest places in america that the transmissions that they see in k through twelve are from outside the schools not inside the schools they're very easily controlled and then he gets caught up in the mumble taking a look but uh... you know we prolly shouldn't get together for thanksgiving and masks work | ||
| This is nonsense, people. | ||
| It's literally, we're watching this whole thing cascade away before our eyes. | ||
| Yes, there's going to be some danger as we go into flu season, but we're not seeing the massive spikes in ICU rates, and we're not seeing any kind of change in mortality. | ||
| If anything, the President's correct. | ||
| The mortality has been dropping off at the same rate. | ||
| Mortality, right. | ||
| The mortality rate has been dropping at the same way that the infection rate's been going in the opposite direction, and this historically has been what most respiratory viruses do. | ||
| We're going to take a short break and we'll be back. | ||
| We're going to have Kylie Jane Kramer on about this rally, or not rally, in Georgia on Saturday. | ||
| But I do want to, when we come back, I want you to walk us through, which has gotten very controversial, about this study It was in Denmark, the 6,500-participant study on masks. | ||
| It's got people milling down. | ||
| They're rioting in Europe about this. | ||
| Do we wear them or do we don't wear them? | ||
| What is the evidence in the science side? | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
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| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, before we get to Kylie Jane Kramer about the rallies or what's happening down in Georgia, I want to go quickly, tell me about Denmark. | ||
| Is it Denmark in masks? | ||
| Yeah, it was Denmark. | ||
| They took 6,000, a little more than 6,000 people, they broke them up into two groups, 3,004 I think in each group, if it was exactly even. | ||
| And they took half the group with masks and half without. | ||
| They spent a month through April and May. | ||
| And then they tested everybody to see who had caught the virus. | ||
| And what they found was that 1.8% of the people who strictly wore masks every day caught the virus. | ||
| And 2.1% of the people who did not wear masks also caught the virus. | ||
| So what they're saying is, okay, it doesn't make much difference, but the proponents for masks are saying, well, it's still about a 15% difference. | ||
| The reality is it's a pretty small study, but it is still a study. | ||
| And there are no studies that prove the opposite. | ||
| Why did Lancet and these other esteemed publications not take it as an actual study and put it under peer review? | ||
| Well, because it doesn't follow the narrative, right? | ||
| But there's nothing technically wrong with it? | ||
| It was just narrative issues? | ||
| Well, it's a pretty small time frame. | ||
| It's one month. | ||
| It's a couple thousand people. | ||
| It's not as if we were doing this in a strict thing. | ||
| But here, there's another study that came out of the Marine Corps where they had 3,000 recruits. | ||
| Where these guys were strictly, I mean, they were washing their hands, they were a little station for hand scrubber everywhere, they couldn't congregate, they couldn't have cell phones, they had to sanitize the toilets every time they used them, and guess what? | ||
| They couldn't even control the spread in that environment. | ||
| There's something, I've said it from the beginning, there's something, there's something of an inevitability about this virus and other influenza-like viruses And the reality is this is spreading. | ||
| It's rapidly spreading, but people are not dying at the rate that they were in April. | ||
| And I do think that the vaccine is going to have at least a psychological effect for many people who are in fear, who are in the danger zones, either because of their age or because of comorbidities. | ||
| So I think that's a positive thing. | ||
| You seem to take this vaccine upon the word of these guys. | ||
| Look, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I understand some of the arguments that they have. | ||
| Isn't this the prime example of what they're talking about? | ||
| Something that's rushed through? | ||
| And I understand the president, he's a vaccine guy. | ||
| He wanted to get it, not before the election, but to get it as soon as possible. | ||
| Just given everything in the rushed nature of it, and then when Fauci tells me it's great, it makes me worry ten times more. | ||
| Well, especially when he tells you he's going to give you the data and then he doesn't. | ||
| But look, the one thing that I'm a little bit more afraid about from the Moderna and the Pfizer vaccine is this messenger RNA methodology behind the vaccine. | ||
| We have I think what two dozen other vaccine candidates around the world that are all and about a third of them are in almost the same level of study that this one is. | ||
| So what's going to happen six months from now? | ||
| There's going to be probably a dozen approved vaccines on some level and again the FDA has to do an emergency authorization. | ||
| Now one thing that I think might be interesting This messenger RNA vaccine, the way it works is it hijacks one of your cells to create a little piece of the spike protein. | ||
| Not the whole virus, just enough for you to get the key to pick the lock of killing this. | ||
| Now the problem is, if you are of, say, an age where you could have children, There's a chance that part of this vaccine gets into your reproductive organs and we don't know what happens at that level. | ||
| I want to go into detail tomorrow because I know people's heads are blown up already. | ||
| Jack had to go there. | ||
| He said the silent part out loud. | ||
| No, I want to get into the details tomorrow. | ||
| I know you've been saying this. | ||
| I want to go to Kylie Jane before we lose it. | ||
| Kylie Jane Kramer. | ||
| She and her mom put on this amazing historic event on Saturday. | ||
| You were trying to do one in Georgia. | ||
| The reason I want to have you on tonight, because so many people were gung-ho to go down, what is happening and should people head down there? | ||
| Right, Steve. | ||
| So there are still going to be some groups that are down there, but the state of Georgia has been really difficult to acquire any permits for any group, and we just don't feel comfortable sending our supporters down there if we cannot control the situation and guarantee their safety. | ||
| So please go at your own risk, maybe even do a MAGA drag around the Capitol in your cars. | ||
| But we've actually pivoted to a different project that I'm excited to announce on your program tonight, and we're so excited to have you and War Room be a part of. | ||
| But we're announcing the March for Trump bus tour. | ||
| We are going to be launching in just 10 days in South Florida, November 29th, the Sunday after Thanksgiving. | ||
| And we'll be headed all the way up through the East Coast, up through Michigan, Wisconsin, ending up in D.C. | ||
| on December 12th. | ||
| So we will be back in Atlanta and Savannah holding some different rallies, and we're really excited to have you guys on board. | ||
| We're also excited to have Mike Lundell, and also we are having every event broadcast by Right Side Broadcasting. | ||
| So it's going to be huge. | ||
| The event is, or the whole bus tour, is really going to be a way for people to all come together. | ||
| So when we get to D.C., Hopefully we have a long line of cars with us, and it really is just a way to carry our voice that we want elections to be protected and we want transparency. | ||
| And for all of these states, for the votes, every legal vote to be counted and every illegal vote to be dismissed. | ||
| So Kylie Jane, how do people get access now to the bus tour? | ||
| Tell people where to go, they can find out about where it's going to go, who's going to be there, where the speakers, how Right Side is going to broadcast it? | ||
| Yes, so it will all be on trumpmarch.com. | ||
| We're still filling in all the details, so it will be up first thing in the morning. | ||
| There's a little bit of a snippet on there this evening, but we really want people to join us, and we're probably coming to your state. | ||
| So trumpmarch.com, and you'll get all the details, but it starts November 29th in South Florida, leading all the way up for two weeks in December, ending in D.C. | ||
| December 12th for the big March for Trump event here in D.C. | ||
| at Freedom Plaza. | ||
| So, last thing. | ||
| I tell you, the governor and these people were not particularly helpful to try to get these rallies organized. | ||
| They don't want a lot of Trump people venting their anger. | ||
| Is that what we're to take away from this? | ||
| That's why you didn't get these permits? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And you know, I can't comment on exactly what happened with why. | ||
| However, I know that we want our supporters to be the safest and we just can't control the situation. | ||
| They won't give us a designated area. | ||
| So we don't want to be in a situation where there are counter protesters that are hurting our efforts because we want this to be really positive and to remain focused on election transparency and or, you know, The integrity of the election. | ||
| So we are encouraging people to still go if they want to. | ||
| But again, I would say that probably the smartest thing for them to do would be to stay in their cars and circle the Capitol doing a MAGA drag. | ||
| OK, we'll put up and we'll get up tomorrow to the the new bus tour for Trump March. | ||
| Kylie Jane did a fantastic job. | ||
| Look forward to working with you on the bus tour. | ||
| Guess we lost Kylie Jenner. | ||
| Kylie Jenner's mom, Amy Kramer, just fantastic. | ||
| Tomorrow, Jack Maxey is going to walk through why you want this vaccine because if you get shot up with it, you're not going to have reproductive plans. | ||
| I'm just kidding, Maryland Peltz. | ||
| I'm just kidding. |
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