Nov. 18, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
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| And that, by the way, the important thing is that's all, that's sports, entertainment, lonely hearts, you know, relationships, it's all of it. | ||
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| Why? | ||
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| Working class people throughout the world, middle class people throughout the world in a common cause. | ||
| Freedom and prosperity, the sunlit uplands in which we all appointed. | ||
| Yes sir, Mr Rahim. | ||
| You said it's sports, lonely hearts, politics, everything. | ||
| That's because you get all of that here on this show! | ||
| If you come in here for relationship advice, you're in the wrong room. | ||
| You're in the wrong room. | ||
| We don't call it the war room for nothing. | ||
| Maggie, you've got some breaking news for us? | ||
| Yeah, this is from The Hill. | ||
| Arizona GOP seeks to temporarily bar Maricopa County from certifying the election results. | ||
| Amen, brother, and let's bring in our man that was in Arizona, now he's back with Rudy, working through everything, Boris Epstein from the campaign. | ||
| Boris, thank you. | ||
| You were in Pennsylvania yesterday. | ||
| We want us to put you in the room, but first, this Michigan situation has just exploded over the political battlefield. | ||
| It looks like you've got a series of elections that can't be certified, whether it's Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, and now in Arizona. | ||
| Arizona must have been listening to the show. | ||
| Remember, we kept those guys out and they said, no, we're not going to certify. | ||
| So, Boris, pull back the camera and give us the big picture before you talk about the details. | ||
| Here's the big picture. | ||
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The big picture is that the Democrats Okay, so here's the big picture, in all seriousness. | |
| The Democrats tried to use COVID-19 as a pretense to steal this election. | ||
| I love the intro always. | ||
| And if anybody needs advice for lonely hearts, just feel free to tweet at me, Boris EP. | ||
| Don't worry about us. | ||
| I'll give you some good advice. | ||
| OK, some good advice. | ||
| OK, so here's the big picture. | ||
| In all seriousness, the Democrats try to use Corona, COVID-19 as a pretense to steal this election. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| And they tried to pass these universal mail balloting schemes, which are ripe with fraud. | ||
| And we know that from even the New York Times and the Carter Baker Commission and so on and so forth. | ||
| And we know that from even the New York Times and the Carter-Bagler Commission and so on and so forth. | ||
| And as you look across the country, it's a disaster. | ||
| And as you look across the country, it's a disaster. | ||
| Georgia, they're finding ballots left and right. | ||
| Georgia, they're finding ballots left and right. | ||
| You know, under every stone, looks like there's 2,000, 3,000 ballots. | ||
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Under every stone, there's looks like there's 2,000, 3,000 tried to pass these universal mail balloting schemes, which are ripe with fraud. | |
| You look at Pennsylvania, where I was yesterday, we've got a great federal case that's gonna continue pushing forward. | ||
| Michigan, the two Wayne County members of the Board of Cabinet Sergeants didn't wanna certify, then they got all kinds of pressure brought down on the wrath of God, Democrat God. | ||
| So, you know, they don't believe in God. | ||
| So the wrath of Democrat whatever being, they think a rational being they think about. | ||
| So that's Michigan. | ||
| Wisconsin, some news is coming out right now. | ||
| Stand by for more news, but let's just put it this way, the president and his campaign are putting. | ||
| There are money where our mouths are in Wisconsin. | ||
| And then you go to Arizona. | ||
| You just talked about Arizona, the issues in Maricopa County. | ||
| I spent a week down there right after the election. | ||
| So as you look all across the country, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, we're looking at New Mexico. | ||
| We're looking at Nevada, of course. | ||
| Nevada, major lawsuit filed and an election of a Democrat overturned in the last two days. | ||
| The Democrats are in trouble. | ||
| They're in trouble. | ||
| You know, the chickens are coming home to roost. | ||
| Where's the emphasis? | ||
| You mentioned New Mexico. | ||
| Are we getting a scoop here? | ||
| Is there some issue in New Mexico? | ||
| So I was alerted to the fact that in New Mexico, outside of Belial County, which is the county where Albuquerque is, there was an issue with observers not being allowed to observe that has impacted, I believe, up to 180,000 ballots. | ||
| 180,000 ballots. | ||
| Do you know what the difference in the state of New Mexico is between sleepy Joe Biden and the President of the United States? | ||
| I think it's less than 180,000. | ||
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It's 99,000. | |
| That's what it is. | ||
| So the state of New Mexico, which has always been ripe with all kinds of fraud and all kinds of issues, is definitely another state where we're taking a hard look at. | ||
| So as you go across the country, this chicanery, this wrongdoing, this attempt at steal by the Democrats is being exposed anywhere and everywhere by the President of the United States. | ||
| Listen, the president just canceled his trip to Mar-a-Lago for Thanksgiving to hunker down here. | ||
| He's on fire on Twitter. | ||
| He's been on fire last night since this was announced in Wayne County. | ||
| By the way, if you've got anything, Maggie, just jump in here. | ||
| We have no pride of authorship. | ||
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Boris, do you have something? | |
| Well, I just find it really funny. | ||
| The Fox ratings are out and they're abysmal. | ||
| Like, abysmal. | ||
| Like how abysmal? | ||
| Like Cavuto down 52 percent, Ingram down 45 percent, Fox and Friends down 45 percent, Hannity down 39 percent, Tucker Carlson down 33 percent. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| And Fox and Friends this morning, it's not, and listen, Brian Kilmeade and the guys at Fox and Friends, I consider them fantastic people, great people. | ||
| But Brian Kilmeade this morning, we've got to play that in the next one, we'll play that. | ||
| Brian Kilmeade this morning saying he's got to start calling him President-Elect Biden and they started doing a transition. | ||
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What? | |
| Do you think that's random? | ||
| Do you think that's random after what happened last night? | ||
| It's not random. | ||
| But it's not their choice. | ||
| I don't hold it against the Murdochs. | ||
| They're making a business decision. | ||
| That's what capitalists do. | ||
| They're making a business decision. | ||
| It's just the way things are. | ||
| You've just got to find other alternatives. | ||
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It's a bad business decision, though. | |
| Let's be very clear. | ||
| Time will tell. | ||
| You know, the Merricks have a pretty good track record of making smart decisions. | ||
| Steve, I've got to run here in a minute, brother. | ||
| Anything else you want to talk about? | ||
| The last thing we want to do, Boris, for you is where is the emphasis going to be on the process? | ||
| Because the clock is ticking on all these. | ||
| So where are you guys going to put your emphasis? | ||
| I know you were in federal court yesterday, but where do you think are the low-hanging fruit? | ||
| Well, it's really a combination. | ||
| You've got to continue through the courts, and now you've got to talk to the legislatures. | ||
| I mean, in Michigan, now this is going to go to the State Board of Canvassers, where it's also 2-2 Democrat-Republican, and from there it goes to the state legislature. | ||
| We've got to make sure that our Republican members of legislatures all across the country understand that it is incumbent upon them to prevent the Democrats from stealing this election. | ||
| And if you have 71% Of the ballot check in Wayne County coming up fraudulent, not matching the voter rolls. | ||
| Well, you can't certify that election. | ||
| If you've got a consent decree in Georgia which wasn't signed off on by the state legislature, that is a fraudulent election. | ||
| If you've got ballots coming in out of everywhere, from every rock and every stone in Georgia, that's not an election that's done fair and square. | ||
| If you look at Nevada, you've got the dead people voting, the people out of state voting, and then all of the huge array of voter regularities. | ||
| Again, not a fair and square election. | ||
| Arizona observers, Pennsylvania observers, Michigan also observer issue. | ||
| And now we're going to take a look at what happened in Wisconsin. | ||
| And let me tell you, the things I know about Wisconsin, the things I've heard alleged about Wisconsin, will make the hair on your neck stand up. | ||
| And we'll be clear that Wisconsin also cannot certify that election. | ||
| Last thing, the media has buried this, but the two heroic, I think, officials in Wayne County, Republicans, voted. | ||
| A condition of this is a full audit of Wayne County and what went on. | ||
| How important do you think that is, and do you think that's going to stand up? | ||
| Can you explain to the audience what that means? | ||
| So, apparently, when the vote was changed, it was changed on a condition of a full audit, which is a good thing. | ||
| But we need to make sure that that's a real audit and not just an audit like in Georgia without verification of the signatures. | ||
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Again, 71% of Wayne County precinct's ballot counts do not match the total number of voters. | |
| 71%. | ||
| We've got to match those. | ||
| The only way to do it is with signatures, so any recount has to include that. | ||
| Boris, what's your social media that people can get to and follow you throughout the day? | ||
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At BorisCP on Twitter. | |
| At Boris, the only Boris, on Parler. | ||
| Follow me. | ||
| We're putting out lots of fire. | ||
| We're having a good time. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| And we're going to make sure this election is done fair and square. | ||
| Every legal vote is counted. | ||
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Every illegal vote is not counted. | |
| Thank you, Boris. | ||
| Boris is from the President's legal team. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us on Word Pandemic. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| On fire. | ||
| This game is on. | ||
| And what he's saying, he said the quiet part out loud. | ||
| Democrats should understand, we know everything that went on in Wisconsin. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Wisconsin, impossible to certify. | ||
| And I believe what he says when the campaign's putting the money where the mouth is. | ||
| I think you're going to see today they're going to pay for, you know, the media's been running around the last couple of days, oh it's going to be $8 million. | ||
| Daring Trump. | ||
| He doesn't have the $8 million. | ||
| This is a, this is a, this will shut him up. | ||
| Right? | ||
| All his big talk about, you know, this thing is too close in Wisconsin. | ||
| This will shut him up. | ||
| It's going to cost him $8 million. | ||
| In golf you call it a press. | ||
| I think you're going to see the 8 million dollars today. | ||
| I think they're going to go full in on Wisconsin. | ||
| In Wisconsin, Democrats should understand this, all your corruption is going to come out. | ||
| All your ability to try to steal this is going to come out in Wisconsin. | ||
| Not going to be able to certify Wisconsin. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Not going to be a certified Michigan. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Not going to be a certified Georgia. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Not going to be a certified Nevada. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| And I'm leaving Pennsylvania, which obviously can't certify that. | ||
| So 5 of the 6, and thank God the Arizona GOP in RNC was listening to the war room this morning because they took Umbridge. | ||
| With us saying, hey, it was the McCain-Romney-Lincoln Project, and they went in in Maricopa County and said they're now going to sue to stop the certification of Maricopa County, which is what, 60 or 65% of the state vote. | ||
| So just incredible. | ||
| Raheem, Jack, Maggie. | ||
| I do want to just add to something, because I'm following the Fox News statistics on a day-to-day basis, given all the Folks inside who like talking to me. | ||
| What Rahim's really doing is calculating the net present value of his next TV contract that he cuts. | ||
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And the next TV company that I start. | |
| Look, here's the deal. | ||
| It pains me to say it, but despite the fact that the numbers are down, they still reported this last week the highest numbers of any major network since election day. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that's something that you have to take into account here. | ||
| There is still an audience at Fox News that is not leaving Fox News yet. | ||
| And this is what the business decision is about, right? | ||
| Can they pull enough people away from CNN? | ||
| Can they pull enough people away from MSNBC? | ||
| And do they even care about the likes of us? | ||
| Are there enough people? | ||
| They don't care about you. | ||
| And by the way, I'm not so sure they need to care about you. | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| They're not supposed to sit there and pat you on the head and say it's all going to be okay. | ||
| It's a business decision. | ||
| They think, like they also came up with a conservative model in the 90s. | ||
| They're sitting there going, MSNBC, which you guys rant about every day, MSNBC and CNN are so crazy with anti-Trump hate that there's a place in the middle For those kind of moderates, bipartisan, you know, that kind of moderate crowd that wants it slightly conservative, just slightly center-right, that's not Not Trumpism. | ||
| Trumpism is very different than that. | ||
| Trumpism is populist. | ||
| Trumpism is economic nationalist. | ||
| Trumpism is anti-CCP. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's what Trumpism is. | ||
| And they don't think that that doesn't get, if you look at, I'm just saying as a business agent, go and look at Primetime and Fox with the monster numbers they bring. | ||
| The guy at MyPillow is Amex, or General Motors to them, right? | ||
| They're not pulling in big advertisers. | ||
| You don't see Amex, you don't see General Motors. | ||
| If you go and look at CNN and MSNBC with a third of the ratings, or Anderson Cooper with a fifth of the ratings, they got the car companies, they got Toyota. | ||
| It's the demo. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's the demo. | ||
| It's about expanding the demo, which is the 25 to 55 year old market, the people who spend, the people who are most attractive to advertisers. | ||
| Well no, CNN and MSNBC, that's just not correct. | ||
| MSNBC and CNN don't pull that in either. | ||
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either. They don't... what they have is... CNN won 675,000 viewers in the demo last week compared to Fox's 649,000. Well no, I'm saying... That's what I'm saying, they're going after... | |
| Fox is trying to expand into CNN's demo. | ||
| That's the business decision. | ||
| I think they'd actually take even older voters. | ||
| They just think right now, whereas they all saw conservatives in the 90s, they see the center. | ||
| And they see that Trumpism is too radical. | ||
| It's too populist. | ||
| It's too economic nationalist. | ||
| You're not going to draw... We're never going to have General Motors as a sponsor. | ||
| Just not going to have it. | ||
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Though we should. | |
| When we win Detroit, we'll be right back after this break. | ||
| War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| But here's the thing, I think for the President of the United States, while he continues to fight on, and this is probably going to be the end of the week for Pennsylvania if they don't produce something, I think it's in the country's best interest if he starts coordinating on the virus, and starts coordinating with security, with the Biden team, and just brief them. | ||
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Because on the virus, we're going to be able to get this out as soon as two weeks. | |
| We need to coordinate on the transportation and implementation, and you'll see how thorough the planning has been, so we don't drop the ball in a little while. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room. | ||
| I'm Maggie Vandenberg, also known as FogCityMidge on social media, and we are here to bring you the real news. | ||
| Let's go on this Fox thing. | ||
| You and Raheem, you seem like you're crestfallen. | ||
| You seem like it's been a death in the family. | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| Murdoch's running like a business. | ||
| Why are you guys, why are you so, you're sad. | ||
| People walk around, they're sad. | ||
| It's just a business decision. | ||
| I've been seeing this coming for a long time, that Fox is trying to move more to the center. | ||
| I don't know if it's because they want to pick up viewers that are turning off the extremism over at MSNBC and CNN. | ||
| I've seen this coming, but I think people feel so upset because this happened at a time where they felt like they were really seeking answers. | ||
| They wanted to know what was going on, you know, from Arizona, Hang on. | ||
| She just gave the answer. | ||
| What'd she say? | ||
| The extremism at MSNBC and CNN. | ||
| and at a critical time. | ||
| Okay, you just, hang on, she just gave the answer. | ||
| What'd she say? | ||
| The extremism at MSNBC and CNN. | ||
| Would the Murdoch sit there and say, she's correct, and that's opened up a thing in the But we're not going to counter that with the extremism that we see in the Trump movement. | ||
| This populism is just a mirror image of the extremism of CNN. | ||
| CNN is just pure Trump hate, but MSNBC. | ||
| They think that this economic nationalism and this populism Right, this anti-Wall Street, anti-corporatism, which is not what basic conservatism used to be. | ||
| You know, they were the fans of big business. | ||
| Remember that book, it's not about Kansas, the guy Thomas Frank that said, hey, the economic alignment of the voters of the Republican Party are not in line with the Coke. | ||
| Inspired economic policies of the Republican Party? | ||
| You're seeing that alignment. | ||
| But the Murdochs, from a business perspective, absolutely agree with you. | ||
| They see MSNBC as extreme. | ||
| They see CNN as extreme. | ||
| Their point is they're not going to follow the Trump-ism because they see that as extreme. | ||
| They want that nice middle. | ||
| Right with with these kind of nice boring people and these nice moderates and that is a massive they think these are 20% businesses. | ||
| This is a 20% business. | ||
| This is a 60% business and we're going to own the 60% business. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| You can see it in their news their Washington office on the news side. | ||
| Has been like that for years. | ||
| The opinion piece, the evening, is clearly more Trump-tastic. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But even that's not being Trump-tastic right now. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I love Laura Ingraham. | ||
| She's a rock star. | ||
| One of the foundational members of this movement. | ||
| But she gave the eulogy for President Trump. | ||
| 72 hours. | ||
| Into this fight? | ||
| We're down to two weeks? | ||
| Miss Laura? | ||
| We're still fighting. | ||
| We're still decertifying. | ||
| So I just think it's a business issue. | ||
| But what gets me, and producer Vish had a brilliant insight. | ||
| He said, no, he said the reason people are sad and the reason people are angry is that they feel that they've carried water for Fox for so many years and defended Fox against their left wing buddies. | ||
| And now in the moment, in the defining moment of this movement, Which is the fight to secure the victory of November 3rd, that they're an apostate, right? | ||
| And this is why, yesterday, in the having Richard Barris on, who's so brilliant, Barris said on our telecast on that night, when Fox called Arizona, he says, watch, it'll change the entire narrative for the evening. | ||
| And he was absolutely correct. | ||
| And the question gets to be, and look, Fox came under a lot of pressure to call the election, and they would not do it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They did not want to be used like that. | ||
| That's why CNN on that morning, right when we were getting those victories, called it. | ||
| But no, so I agree with you. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| But I think the Murdochs, from a business perspective, see the extremism of MSNBC, the Trump derangement syndrome of CNN. | ||
| They realize that turns people off. | ||
| They think What we represent also turns people off. | ||
| Don't get me wrong, there is a core for that, and they're prepared to pay, you know, to have a few shows like that, right? | ||
| To keep Tucker doing it, to keep maybe Hannity doing it, to keep some shows up there so you still get some of the audience. | ||
| But they're prepared totally to walk away from it, right? | ||
| Because they see the 60%. | ||
| They think, this is 20, that's 20, this is 60, we want to own the 60. | ||
| And that's what Fox is going to be. | ||
| Comments, observations? | ||
| I disagree with all of you. | ||
| But only from a different perspective, right? | ||
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I get it from your perspectives. | |
| I didn't grow up on Fox News. | ||
| We didn't have Fox News. | ||
| I mean, you could get kind of some rolling headlines, but you would never get the opinion stuff over in the UK. | ||
| So I don't have that attachment that I understand Americans will have to it. | ||
| Guess what, though? | ||
| I don't get attached to corporates, okay? | ||
| I just don't have that kind of emotional attachment to anything corporate. | ||
| Because you know, In a second. | ||
| So I'm not crestfallen. | ||
| I'm taking a victory lap on this right now because I sat in this room four months ago and I said it was going to go down exactly the way it's going down and everyone was like, oh, you know, what are you doing? | ||
| You never get on Fox again. | ||
| I said, I don't need to go on Fox again. | ||
| Which is exactly what happened. | ||
| I don't need to go on Fox again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, hang on. | ||
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I got a point to make here. | |
| You always jump in on my points. | ||
| Never jump in on Maggie. | ||
| I want to put it this way. | ||
| She's special. | ||
| Look at the two different distinctions about populism here. | ||
| See, the problem is, the reason they're trying to capture the new demo from the CNN types is because, as far as Fox is concerned, populism didn't pay. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Populism didn't pay. | ||
| So, on the Tucker side, which is the comprehensive, thoughtful populism, you had the ad partners and the media masters and all these guys going after the advertisers on that, and they lost the advertisers on the Tucker side. | ||
| On the other side, which I call the incoherent populist side of Fox, which is Steve Hilton gibberish on a Sunday night, nobody wants to I'm going to advertise to Steve Hilton's audience. | ||
| Sorry, Steve. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| Total hypocrite, by the way, when it comes to populism. | ||
| Married to one of the super lobbyists of all super lobbyists. | ||
| Talking about the swarm. | ||
| So I'm hammering the point home here with Fox, right? | ||
| The point is they weren't up for a fight. | ||
| They caved every single time. | ||
| Every single advertiser went after the Media Matters guys and the Sleeping Giants guys went after them. | ||
| Nobody at corporate Fox wanted to fight back. | ||
| They just went, you know what? | ||
| It's easier to cave and then we'll get rid of these guys over the course of time. | ||
| We'll build a new audience. | ||
| But that's called a business decision. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I have no problem. | ||
| This is – and people that are complaining about that, you can't argue for capitalism in one way and then argue against it in another. | ||
| These are capitalists. | ||
| They're in the media business that are hard-nosed, right? | ||
| This is why – and look, in Murdoch, he does own the New York Post. | ||
| He had the New York Post. | ||
| The New York Post launched the hard drive from hell, which was a highly risky thing. | ||
| So they will take those type of risks, although it's interesting the New York Post has become the new anti-Trump paper since – and they're going to – they'll have to unwind that. | ||
| But no, I just think they make business decisions. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| But also a business decision is people have the choice to turn it off. | ||
| So this is also capitalism at work, right? | ||
| You gave us the audience things. | ||
| I mean, those audience things and hey, led by Cavuto down 52%. | ||
| We might be missing a finer point here. | ||
| What makes us think that the Murdoch family falls outside the realm of other wealthy families? | ||
| I think what we may be witnessing is the shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations right now as the children acknowledge their power but don't acknowledge how to maintain it, keep it, and guard their market share. | ||
| Look, it's for entrepreneurs. | ||
| It's created the best opportunity. | ||
| I've said this for many, many years back to my Goldman days when I was in media and a financier. | ||
| It is driven by content. | ||
| You know, Summer Redstone, the guy said, content is king. | ||
| If you have content, You want, obviously, great distribution, but people will find it. | ||
| They will make a way to find it. | ||
| It's all about the quality of content. | ||
| What we try to do here in War Room is to make sure that you're getting a briefing every day like we would do a briefing in a board of directors to a chairman and a CEO, and so you're getting the information you need, and to do it with de minimis, happy talk, and even too much opinion. | ||
| And by the way, for the audience at home, if you make a bad point in the War Room, you don't just get blown out on air, you get blown out in the breaks as well. | ||
| And you get demoted after the show. | ||
| You're told not to come back tomorrow. | ||
| No, but here's the thing. | ||
| The point you're making, people need to really internalize this. | ||
| Because what the social media giants are doing to people at the moment is actually conditioning them to find things elsewhere. | ||
| They're actually training and coaching people up By accident. | ||
| I don't think they're doing it on purpose. | ||
| By accident to have to disambiguate their kind of, you know, their paywalls and their moral walls and whatever they're putting up there. | ||
| And more and more people are now spending more time and putting more thought into what they consume. | ||
| And I think that's one of the good things that was a result of this. | ||
| Less laziness. | ||
| No, and this gets to this concept, I'm going to throw out a highfalutin business school term, but disintermediation. | ||
| That's what I was talking about. | ||
| The disintermediation. | ||
| Donald Trump would not be president if it was not for the social media aspects like Twitter. | ||
| It allowed him to disintermediate. | ||
| Because let's go back in time. | ||
| The left always gets it wrong. | ||
| Fox was not a supporter of Donald Trump when he first launched. | ||
| The biggest battle we had at Breitbart was over the first debate with Megyn Kelly. | ||
| That's why Megyn Kelly and I are so close. | ||
| Megyn Kelly tried to kneecap Donald Trump at the very first debate in late July or August of 2015, the very first debate, where she went to his Twitter feed. | ||
| They did a left-wing thing. | ||
| Go on your Twitter feed, go on your Facebook account, go back ten years, pull up some stuff, and try to kneecap the guy out of the box. | ||
| And Breitbart, you know, we did like a thousand articles, you know, a hundred negative Megyn Kelly articles every day because we said, hey, we're not going to let this go down like this. | ||
| This guy's a populist. | ||
| He may lose. | ||
| We're months away from the first thing, but we're not going to allow you to pull some left wing. | ||
| And hey, I consider myself very close to Roger Ailes. | ||
| He was in my grill. | ||
| And I said, The reason we don't have anybody on Fox is I knew one day he would make this call. | ||
| We're not beholden to you for anything. | ||
| We don't go on your network. | ||
| None of us are contributors. | ||
| We don't have any association. | ||
| We love Fox, right? | ||
| You guys rip off our stories all day long and repurpose them onto your nightly shows. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| Three days later, we don't mind that. | ||
| But we're not going to kowtow. | ||
| And I told him at the time, I said, Megyn Kelly, you've created a monster. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And because they all wanted to do it. | ||
| But the point is, they were anti-Trump for a long time. | ||
| And the way he was able to combine it was social media. | ||
| It was that, you know, that whole ability to kind of, you know, have that, have the fire going in social media and particularly in Twitter. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Chris Buskirk of American Greatness, one of the smartest guys in our movement, is going to join us next on War Room Pandemic. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through, a lot of ground to cover. | ||
| What was the 30th, announced this morning, the 30th biggest podcast in the world, ladies and gentlemen, closing in on 20 million downloads. | ||
| And that's, remember, different than these other podcasts, we're ubiquitous everywhere, cable, we're on streaming, multiple streaming services. | ||
| I want to thank the guys at Real America's Voice, the streaming service of the Trump Revolution, plus John Frederick's radio all over the country. | ||
| And G-News, G-TV, the diaspora of the Chinese, we're in Mandarin, blown through the firewall. | ||
| I want to thank Newsmax, rebroadcast this late at night and on the weekend non-stop. | ||
| I want to thank all of our distribution partners. | ||
| We're going to bring in now Chris Busker. | ||
| Just before we do that, just to piggyback on that point, I know a lot of this audience wants to help us get higher and higher in the rankings and I just want to tell them what they can do to do that. | ||
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| Okay, I want to bring in, now, by the way, we talked about what, we know Google's, the guys at Google, hey, welcome aboard, and Twitter, the Twitter police, and, you know, all the hall monitors, want to welcome all the hall monitors to, because hall monitors, your seat's right there, the hall monitors of Twitter, and Google, and all, you're sitting right next to the CCP, the CCP intelligence services we know watches non-stop. | ||
| Because we're constantly in their grill. | ||
| We're also going to come, and I'll do it at 5 o'clock when I have time today, this report, the new Kennan, you know, ex-memo coming out of the State Department, not good enough, with Henry Kissinger's lies about, oh, if you confront China, you're going to lead to World War I. He only had to pick the disaster that drove the whole bloodiness of the 20th century, saying, hey, Trump and his guys, they're going to cause WWI. | ||
| Henry, Henry the K, here's what we do. | ||
| I tell you what, we'll start taking your advice and start, you know, listening to you about Thucydides' trap and all of this. | ||
| When you come forward and show us how much cash money you're taking from the CCP, how much cash money you've taken from the CCP, because you're on the payroll. | ||
| So, Henry the K, show us how much cash money you're taking from the CCP. | ||
| That's what we want to know. | ||
| Cash money from the CCP. | ||
| And then we'll start taking your advice about the confrontation with the Chinese Communist Party that's going to lead to the First World War. | ||
| Another repeat of the First World War. | ||
| I want to go now to Chris Buskirk of American Greatness. | ||
| Chris, we're getting tired of winning here in the War Room. | ||
| It's a day of, you know, from Michigan to Georgia to now they've wired, I think the report from the Wall Street Journal, they're going to wire $3 million into Wisconsin because they're going to start in Milwaukee and figure out what's going on there. | ||
| You've seen the President's Twitter feed. | ||
| Put in perspective where you think we are right now in this fight to close on Trump's November 3rd victory. | ||
| Yeah, I think we're at the place where we need to lock up some wins with regards to these vote certifications. | ||
| So, you can probably see in my background, you don't know where I am. | ||
| I'm in Arizona, though, and they certified the vote here in Arizona about an hour ago. | ||
| And, you know, the vote hasn't been certified in Georgia yet. | ||
| I think that people need to be really up in front. | ||
| They certified it just at the local level. | ||
| I thought the GOP went into it about Maricopa and tried to start it, but this is your local, this is what happened in Michigan yesterday, trying to certify it at a local level. | ||
| They haven't certified it at a state level yet, correct? | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| That's a good qualifier to note. | ||
| So the Maricopa County, which is about 61% of all the votes in the state, they certified This morning, Pima County, which is Tucson, it's about another 14, they will certify at some point today. | ||
| And then it goes up to the Secretary of State, but the Secretary of State here in Arizona is a Democrat who has called Trump supporters Nazis, who has all the BLM language in her Twitter profile, so there's no doubt that if left to her own devices that she'll certify as soon as she possibly can. | ||
| So that's someplace where the campaign needs to take some sort of action if they want to Arizona from certifying. | ||
| That'll require legal action. | ||
| And we're sort of in a similar place in a bunch of these states. | ||
| You mentioned Wisconsin, but also Michigan and Georgia. | ||
| And we're at a place where, you know, the clock here is running on just how the calendar works in terms of getting first the local certifications and then the state certifications. | ||
| And, you know, there's a momentum behind that. | ||
| You know, all of our institutions are built to do these things a certain way. | ||
| The people who staff those institutions just, you know, it's process-oriented. | ||
| They know what they're supposed to do because this is what they've always done. | ||
| And without some sort of a concrete intervention to stop that and to move that process into a different venue, for instance, either into the courts or into the state legislature, then those things will just continue. | ||
| So I think there's sort of two paths here that need to be pursued aggressively. | ||
| One is the legal path, meaning through the courts, but the other one is a political path where the legislatures need to be given some incentives, shall we say, or some backbone to come in and say, hold on a second, we've seen evidence of fraud, we've seen evidence that we can't take at face value the results of the election because of these irregularities and we need to intervene here in a meaningful way, whether that means a | ||
| A re-vote like Democrats had us do in North Carolina a couple years ago. | ||
| Maybe that means a recount or an audit or maybe that just means the legislature's using their rights under Article 2 in order to select electors because the ballots or the election itself they deem was tainted. | ||
| Well, if you were, you know, you're very highly regarded in the White House. | ||
| The President wired three men to start the process in Wisconsin. | ||
| He's got his legal team in federal court in Pennsylvania, and we'll have an update on the federal court situation there. | ||
| He's got Lin Wood, who's not associated with the campaign, but Lin Wood's suing on this consent that nobody knew about in Georgia. | ||
| So you've got fights. | ||
| They're going to fight hard on this certification in Michigan. | ||
| What would be your advice For someone who the White House listens to and is a very deep thinker, what would be your advice right now? | ||
| The President just cancelled going to Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| He just wired money that the campaign probably doesn't have. | ||
| So he's hunkering down. | ||
| What would be your advice if you want to go full in and defend this? | ||
| Chris Buskert says to do the following. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Don't hunker. | ||
| Come out of the White House and start having rallies in person in Wisconsin, in Georgia, in Michigan. | ||
| I've said this since November 4th. | ||
| This is absolutely it. | ||
| Donald Trump's base of support is the American people. | ||
| It's voters. | ||
| The uphill fight he's always had is that the institutions are arrayed against him. | ||
| But he's got 73, 74 million people who voted for him and he should make his case directly to them. | ||
| That is absolutely essential. | ||
| People I know and I talk to every day I think are getting tired of hearing me say this. | ||
| Uh, but come out, you know, people love to go out and see Trump. | ||
| You guys have been to Trump rallies. | ||
| They're energetic, they're happy, they're joyful, and they are really, really energizing to the people. | ||
| You know, I'll tell you what, look, I know a group of women here in Arizona who I think is just a great example. | ||
| They're all sort of They're all sort of, you know, Gen X age, and they are super fired up for Trump. | ||
| If there is a rally within a four-hour drive, they are at it, and they all go together. | ||
| But movements like this, which are energetic, require leadership, and Donald Trump is the general, and he should get out and he should lead. | ||
| Okay, so I'm just going to pick some random things. | ||
| You're saying the people put on this magnificent rally with 500,000 to a million people on Saturday, which is upbeat, powerful, positive. | ||
| They're putting one on in Georgia at the state capitol high noon on Saturday. | ||
| You're saying, President Trump, you ought to be there. | ||
| The state electors are meeting in Michigan. | ||
| Meeting in Michigan on Monday. | ||
| You're saying big rally in Michigan on Monday. | ||
| You're saying go to Harrisburg and show the state legislators that you mean business when you want them to focus. | ||
| You're saying get on the hustings. | ||
| What would you think would be the response of the mainstream media in the institutions, Mr. Buskirk, if the president did this? | ||
| Well, they've got a macro written in Microsoft Word where they, I think they just changed the dates, and it just says, you know, fascist, authoritarian, whatever, and my response to that is, if I can quote, you know, some of our friends on the left from the 60s, this is what democracy looks like. | ||
| You go out and you make your case directly to the people. | ||
| And I, that's a completely legitimate thing to do. | ||
| And if, you know, I've proposed, you know, even calling these defend our democracy rallies, that's exactly what he should be doing. | ||
| And, you know, they'll complain and they'll bleed and they'll say that, well, only fascists talk to the people directly in the streets. | ||
| Only fascists have rallies. | ||
| Well, really? | ||
| I mean, that's a contradiction that I think most people see through, which is that, you know, this is actually how mass popular governments work. | ||
| You have to make that case and you have to motivate the people who support you. | ||
| And so, you know, they'll just rerun the hundredth fascist story. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Make the case. | ||
| In Arizona, was the McCain-Romney-Lincoln project enough to chop block the president? | ||
| I know it could not be certified, but I'm saying this 100,000 swing from people that voted down ticket for Republicans that didn't vote for Biden or didn't vote for Trump. | ||
| Did the Republican establishment get him out there? | ||
| Yeah, it's really hard to parse because in Arizona, it's such a small margin here. | ||
| I mean, the margin here is sort of 10,000 or give or take a little bit. | ||
| Did the Lincoln Project do it? | ||
| Did the Never Trumpers at places like National Review, did they peel off enough folks? | ||
| I'm not really convinced that they did. | ||
| I mean, to me, those just look like huge money sucks, you know? | ||
| I mean, it's just a way for people who couldn't get jobs, representing actual conservatives or Republicans to take tens of millions of dollars from left-wing billionaires. | ||
| The thing that Republicans actually do need to grapple with is that the big gap is college-educated, non-college-educated. | ||
| And if you look at where Trump lost votes, 16 versus 16, it's kind of in those inter-rig suburbs where you've got millennials, young people, they're college-educated, and at the margin, Trump led some votes in those type of zip codes. | ||
| Whereas he was picking up votes in the non-college educated zip codes, whether they be white working class, you know, I'm thinking of Arizona, or white working class, Hispanic, black, whatever. | ||
| And so, you know, that's a place where I think there's actually a much, it's a much deeper well that we can draw from if we're trying to think of inferences either for this election or for what we should be thinking about doing going forward. | ||
| Chris, can I ask you to hold over just through the break? | ||
| There's a couple of questions on Fox that I think the audience wants to put to you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Chris Walsh from American Greatness. | ||
| It's a site that you've got to go to. | ||
| We had Pedro Gonzalez on earlier this week that was a fantastic piece that was up on there about the working class. | ||
| Raheem, they're monitoring our comment section now. | ||
| They're deleting people in our comment section? | ||
| It does appear to be the case. | ||
| I mean, I've never seen this before. | ||
| It may be something I don't know. | ||
| I have to look into it more, but I'm looking at the live stream and I'm seeing things that say, uh, hidden by Google Moderator team. | ||
| And I can't even see what the comment is. | ||
| And I'm the admin. | ||
| It's a compliment to the audience. | ||
| They're so petrified. | ||
| I just feel sorry for whoever the Google Moderator team has to go through. | ||
| I mean it's such a fast paced live chat. | ||
| the gilets jaunes, right? That they are petrified by this entire thing. | ||
| Okay, we're taking a short break. | ||
| I just feel sorry for whoever the Google Moderator team has to go through. | ||
| I mean, it's such a fast-paced live chat. | ||
| They're having to go through everything. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| Do you think there's more? | ||
| By the way, if your job was hanging in our live chat, it'd be more fun than sitting around the cafeteria at Google, or sitting in some cubicle at Google with all the geeks at Google. | ||
| I'm not cyber-bullying, I'm just using a figure of speech. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break when we return. | ||
| We've got Fog City Midge, that's Maggie Vanderburg. | ||
| Rahim Kassam, National Pulse, Jack Maxey, Stephen K. Bannum will be joined by Chris Buskirk of American Greatness when we take a short commercial break on War Room Pandemic. | ||
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| Welcome back to The War Room, Meg. | ||
| You got an update on social media? | ||
| Yeah, it seems like Twitter is now suspending more journalists. | ||
| Savannah Hernandez, who is actually a friend of mine, she's a conservative producer and journalist and definitely not an extremist by any means. | ||
| She had her Twitter account permanently suspended last night. | ||
| And this is coming after a retweet by the president in the last couple days. | ||
| And over the weekend, she was posting videos documenting the violence that happened on the streets with Antifa after the Million MAGA March on Saturday. | ||
| And it seems to me that the new strategy by Twitter is just to permanently suspend anyone who has been retweeted by the president, because we've seen this now happen a couple times in the last few days. | ||
| And it's a shame because she had 125,000 followers. | ||
| She has never had a suspension or a warning before, never violated any Twitter rules or terms of service. | ||
| And just all of a sudden, without warning, she had her entire account removed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Who asked about this yesterday with Jack Dorsey? | ||
| Did anybody even go into the detail? | ||
| Is anybody tracking the scale of this thing? | ||
| Not just how many people, how many conservative content creators are being banned, but how wide the network Is there, like, i.e. | ||
| you've banned us from reaching 73 million people a week kind of thing? | ||
| Because I didn't see much yesterday at the hearings either. | ||
| I mean, Ted Cruz had a good point, but it was, again, one in about, you know, a hundred points being made at the thing, and the standout for all of the news media, of course, was Blumenthal talking about Steve, but is our, has our side bothered to make any points? | ||
| The murderer. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is anybody out there making the point? | ||
| Because if not, I don't know what these people are even doing in these hearings anyway. | ||
| Might as well just, might as well kick your feet up. | ||
| They like the hearings because it's pro-wrestling. | ||
| Kabuki theater. | ||
| These hearings seem like a complete waste of time, but I think it's in part because these senators don't really know enough to know what they're talking about. | ||
| They don't understand the specifics. | ||
| What I would prefer to see would be a sit-down with people who actually understand what's happening. | ||
| Like a town hall. | ||
| Yeah, people that are actually in it, that are on our side, who see what the censorship is and what it's doing and actually follow up and ask questions specific about those instances to people like Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey. | ||
| So Chris Buskirk at American Greatness, we've got all these issues with social media which have been kind of the connective tissue in our movement, but today the ratings for Fox come out and it's an absolute free fall. | ||
| What is your sense, and people walk around here with the long faces on about Fox, I'm saying, hey, the Merck's making a business decision, don't take it personally. | ||
| What's your assessment? | ||
| I think that's partially true. | ||
| But, you know, there's part of it for them that's a business decision. | ||
| There's part of it that I do think is probably an ideological decision. | ||
| I mean, it basically is the exact opposite of the insight that Roger Ailes had 25 years ago, which is, gosh, maybe we should start a network for the other half of the country. | ||
| And, you know, they're well within their legal rights, of course, to make a business decision that says we would just basically want to be CNN lite or MSNBC lite. | ||
| I don't know that that's a good business decision or not. | ||
| It seems to me that that's a saturated market, but it also seems like it leaves a lot of opportunity for people to do something different. | ||
| You know, my general view is that cable news is yesterday's medium. | ||
| It has a place in the media ecosystem. | ||
| I don't think it is something that is not nearly as dominant as it once was and will become less and less dominant. | ||
| Over time and the point that you guys were making earlier Which is that sort of I think you were saying this Rahim trains people to look elsewhere for media You know and you know, especially younger people are fine are getting their media You know, it's I mean it's sort of hackneyed to say this but whether it be Instagram or snap or wherever There's lots of good media sources out there And as long as we utilize the platforms well and provide good content people will find it. | ||
| I Tell us about, we've got a couple minutes left, tell people about America Greatness. | ||
| How can they get to it? | ||
| What's the kind of content that you provide? | ||
| What's the driving focus of your work? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you can find us at amgreatness, amgreatness.com, and then, you know, I'm on Twitter, at the Chris Buskirk on Parler, at Buskirk, and all of our people. | ||
| You had Pedro on the other day, you know, we're pretty active on both Parler. | ||
| and on Twitter, but you know our focus since we launched in 2016 really has been, you know, it's mega focused, you know, and that's been partially Trump focused, but actually, you know, not uppercase, but lowercase, make America great again, like let's actually do that. And so the things that we're interested in are things like rethinking our national security policies so that we're not involved in all these endless, useless, nation-building wars, and importantly at home, | ||
| about rebuilding the middle class, about raising middle class wages, and making sure that it's a sustainable part of American society that can support the The sort of governmental institutions to which we have become accustomed. | ||
| And the middle class and the working class have been under tremendous pressure for 50 years because of the bipartisan policies that have driven jobs and factories and whatnot abroad that have contributed to the financialization of the economy and basically left this country really, really vulnerable to things like pandemics or to things like predatory mercantilist nations like China. And we have more than enough human resources. We | ||
| have the capital, but we have to rebuild this country in a way where wealth and opportunity are distributed in a way that that makes this really a middle-class nation and not a plantation nation. | ||
| Last question, we've got 90 seconds. | ||
| For our audience who like going to work, they want to be engaged and involved, what would be your recommendation of what they could do that's the most productive right now at this moment in time until December 14th? | ||
| Yeah, you know, get involved with the recounts, with the audits. | ||
| Make sure that you are engaging with the people that you know. | ||
| There's plenty to be done on social media. | ||
| I saw this article in The Nation a couple of months ago saying, like, you can fight fascism from your couch. | ||
| No, really. | ||
| You know, maybe. | ||
| I mean, there's stuff to be done on social media, but there's a lot of stuff to be done in real life, too. | ||
| You know, if there's a rally, go to it. | ||
| You get your friends together and actually, you know, do things where people are actually connecting with one another face to face. | ||
| I know that's controversial in 2020, in the COVID year. | ||
| But, you know, look, that's where things actually happen. | ||
| And I think there's a lot of work To be done so that the institutions don't sort of sweep away the energy that's behind this movement. | ||
| Okay, how do people follow you during the day on social media? | ||
| On Twitter at the Chris Buskirk, on Parler at Buskirk, and of course at amgreatness.com. | ||
| What's on National? | ||
| Thank you Chris Buskirk from American Greatness. | ||
| Thank you brother, fantastic hit. | ||
| Thanks Steve. | ||
| Raheem, what's on National Pulse at 3? | ||
| Steve Cortez is supposed to be coming on, but you know, the last two times we lost him at the last second, but we've also got the President of the Election Integrity Project, that's a different one than we had the other day. | ||
| These are the good guys looking into Nevada. | ||
| It'll be really interesting. | ||
| What are you following until 5 o'clock? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I'm just here. | ||
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| Keep it on the edge of the spear. | ||
| Stay tuned on social media. | ||
| Jack Max is going to have a complete going through of the Stobbler family at 5. | ||
| See you then. |
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