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Nov. 16, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Bannons WarRoom Ep 506: Light and Darkness (w/ Midge, Gonzalez, Epshteyn, Kremer, and Yore)
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jack maxey
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steve bannon
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boris epshteyn
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kylie jane kremer
03:29
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liz yore
04:32
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raheem kassam
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anthony fauci
00:10
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maggie vandenberghe
00:55
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pedro gonzalez
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
We've been rocking this.
jack maxey
You got the red accents in the hair.
What do you think about what's happening?
How far should President Trump take this?
unidentified
Well, he should take this all the way to the Supreme Court, as far as he can win.
I think what's going on is that everyone is, they're dealing with their cognitive dissonance.
One side of the country claims that Biden won, but they kind of know he didn't win.
It's like, he's like the OJ Simpson of today, where everyone knows he's guilty, but we just, they just kind of want him to win anyway, just to get back at the other side.
So right now, I mean, this side is just trying to like pretty much waking everyone else to the murder that the Democrats are getting with, of course, with abortion and also with the finances that are trying to destroy the economy.
And, you know, people would try to say, oh, well, this is all conspiracy.
But I feel like COVID was injected in America to just bring us down underneath China and the rest of the countries so that we can fall behind them and also You know, continue their, I guess their gravy train.
And right now it just seems like everyone is against Trump because he's stopping their gravy train.
And just this crowd is evidence of the fraud.
I mean, you did not see this kind of energy for the other side and force anyone to kind of deny the reality.
You have to be dishonest with yourself.
You have to.
And at the same time, I kind of feel sorry for the other side because all they know is what the media tells them or what the media allows them to know.
jack maxey
I can't say it any better than that, Steve.
steve bannon
Yeah, I gotta tell you, it's Ben Berquam, and I gotta give a hat tip to Howard Diamond and the entire crowd, the entire team at Real America's Voice.
Incredible coverage this weekend.
The best coverage of anybody, I think.
It was just incredible.
And Ben Berquam, the great field reporter.
That was, I think, Justin he had on there.
It was just incredible.
Summed it up better than we could do here in the War Room.
So a real hat tip to Justin and to Ben.
We're going to have in this hour, Boris Epstein from the campaign is going to come and talk about exactly what's going on with these filings in federal court.
Very important, you know, the Trump campaign has not given up on these ballots, right?
You've got the equal protection argument they're going to make and also the steal.
What happened with the observers and what happened in Pennsylvania with these 2.6 million mail-in ballots, particularly the 625,000, I think, in Philadelphia than the ones in Allegheny County, okay, where people were not allowed to get near and to witness, to be observers.
There's a reason you have no naked ballots.
It's a massive question.
Also, Kylie Jane Kramer, she's the co-chair of the, she's Amy Kramer's daughter.
They're partners in this whole Women for the Trump Movement.
Incredible.
They put on the parade, they put on the rally, the gathering, the march on Saturday.
She'll be on here.
Liz Yor, Michael Matt, PAX Second Harbor.
I want to start with a very special guest from American Greatness Magazine, Chris Buskirk.
And we're going to have Chris, I think, on Chris is going to be on Wednesday, American Greatness.
Pedro is a Mount Vernon Fellow at the American Greatness Center.
He's also Assistant Editor or Associate Editor of American Greatness.
It's a site you have to go to, a great magazine.
He's written an incredible piece up on the website now.
So Pedro, walk us through your theory of the case.
Walk us through your theory of Trumpism and where you think we stand and what were the, maybe, you made some very poignant observations about how the campaign ended.
So walk the audience through what your piece is about.
unidentified
So I begin from the premise that one, electoral fraud is real.
It happened.
I wrote a long article about incidents of fraud that we can verify, irregularities that need to be investigated.
And the second point is that I think that the campaign and the administration in general sort of lost sight of the mandate, lost sight of the reason that Trump was so successful in 2016.
And I think a lot of this has to do with personnel, because as you know, in DC, personnel is policy.
And I think that around 2017, Trump started to rely a lot on the people around him.
These people often came from people, a class of consultants that would be at home either advising George Bush or Obama.
And as a result of that, I think you saw a departure from economic populism.
You saw a departure from law and order.
And most recently, these things manifested as the criminal justice reform just passed 2018, the First Step Act.
I don't know of anybody who voted for Trump in 2016 because they wanted to let felons, you know, murderers and rapists out of prison.
And then again, it happened with the Platinum Plan, which came with the promise of not only 500 billion in basically affirmative action cash exclusively for the black community, but it also came with the promise of more criminal justice reform.
And that came after months of rioting.
And so I think that you can see how Trump kind of got caught up in trying to compromise with people that were never going to vote for him anyways.
steve bannon
I think a lot of this has to do, again, with his advisors, because I think that Trump actually has... So, Pedro, let me jump in here, and I know Jack's got some observations, too.
Understanding this populist movement, if you want to expand it, and you saw the great results in the Hispanic community, you saw the beginnings of the green shoots in the black community, I actually am a big fan of the Of the Platinum Plant, maybe not all the details, but what I like about it is access to capital and talking about economic nationalism.
Don't you think that in order to expand this, in order to expand this, right, more than the 72 million votes, but because populism's on the rise, economic nationalism's on the rise, to expand it more, you've got to reach out to a broad spectrum, and I think we're seeing it here,
You know, yes, this started definitely as a white working class, this is the old Perot part of it, this is the old Sarah Palin, this is the Tea Party, it was definitely a white working class movement.
But as it gains momentum, throughout the world we see, whether it's in China, whether it's in Brazil, whether it's in certain areas of Africa, whether it's in certain areas of Europe, right, and particularly in Asia, Right?
This is not based on the white working class.
It's based on the working class and the lower middle class.
It's more of a class function than it is an ethnicity or race function.
What say you?
unidentified
So my issue is not with helping the black community.
My issue is with the fact that instead of doing something like an infrastructure plan that provides well-paying jobs for everyone, regardless of race or ethnicity, we instead resorted to these race-based plans, like the American Dream Plan, which only applies to Latinos, the Platinum Plan, which only applies to blacks.
I guess my criticism is, if we're going to do this, if we're going to engage in this racial spoils system where we give everyone a plan based on their race, we can't do that and then also overlook white people.
Because to do that, you have to believe that there is not one white person in this country who could use scholarships for their kids to go to better schools, which is what the American Dream Plan offers Latinos.
You have to believe that there's not one downscale white community that could use capital infusion.
So, either we do economic nationalism, economic populism, and focus on things like infrastructure for everyone, or we do this race-based spoils system, and we accept that we're being hypocritical.
steve bannon
So if you wanted to do economic...
let's say if you wanted to do economic populism across the board, what would be your two or three policy... two or three things that Pedro Gonzales say, hey, this is... since Trump won, and I keep saying he's got a 70-day bonus period on the second administration.
We get a 70-day bonus.
If you got in the Oval this afternoon, what would be your two or three things to say, hey, I want a broad-based economic populism.
I want a broad-based economic nationalism that speaks to blacks, Latinos, Asians, regardless of your gender, your ethnicity, your sexual preference.
What would be Pedro Gonzalez's two or three top things to focus on?
unidentified
Well, the first one is, again, the infrastructure plan.
There was polling done in 2017 that showed two-thirds of Americans said that that was the most important platform promise that Trump needed to keep.
And I think because people connected, it resonated with people, this idea of not just providing better jobs, but also fixing our bridges and our dams and things that are dilapidated.
The second thing was, I'm actually not opposed to a tax plan, but I would want one that actually raises taxes on corporate America, on the masters of the universe, and alleviates the tax burden for little people.
I think the tax plan that was done by Gary Cohn was Probably disproportionately helped the ultra-wealthy, which, ironically, these are the people that bankroll Black Lives Matter.
These are the people that bankroll the candidacies of people like Joe Biden.
So, I think those are the two obvious ones for me.
jack maxey
It's Jack Maxey.
I want to ask a question.
Your recent article, you were talking about saying that kind of the gains that Trump seems to have, people seem to extol that he's made these great gains in the Hispanic community and the black community.
And you sort of implied that the numbers really didn't show that.
And I think that's probably true when you look at the big swing states where we have seen this great grift go on, because I don't think that those numbers are reflective of really what happened.
But when you go down to say like Southern Texas, like Zapata County, which hasn't elected a Republican president since 1920, is 98% Hispanic, and you see that he flipped that county along with five or six other counties down there, And we've seen this in a number of rural counties around the country.
And then you look what happened in Miami-Dade, where Biden won by 7.3 percent, but Hillary Clinton won by plus 29 percent.
So, you know, I know that my theory doesn't match up when we look at Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee, but it certainly seems to hold up when you take it outside of the urban areas.
And I'd just love to get your thoughts on that.
unidentified
Well, I think that, one, we should be happy that this happened, the examples that you just pointed out.
That's all obviously good stuff.
I'm not saying that we should not be happy about that.
I guess my point is that it seems like there's an effort to kind of overblow this, to make it much bigger than it is, by a lot of mainstream conservative pundits and Republican Party people like Marco Rubio.
pedro gonzalez
And I think that for them, There's a kind of like, oh, thank God, they can't call us racist anymore, because we have better Hispanic turnout this time around.
unidentified
So it's not really serious, if you know what I'm saying.
It's sort of like, oh, geez, now we'll be accepted into polite society because we flipped some more Hispanic areas.
And I think that really betrays what we should be celebrating.
And that is that the law and order message appeals broadly.
Obviously, your base is still largely white working class, but clearly, There's a lot of Hispanics, a lot of Latinos who don't like their cities being regularly burned down every time there's like a police-involved shooting.
So this is good news.
I think we should be happy about this, but I think that we should also be very aware of how the narrative is being spun in a way that where it seems like, okay, we don't really need to acknowledge the issues of the white working class anymore because now we have More Latinos turning out for us.
jack maxey
Couldn't you say, though, that really what we should start doing is not defining the problems of the Hispanic working class, the black working class, or any other color working class, and just define it as the problems of working Americans and the benefits will accrue to you no matter what your color.
That's really your premise, right?
unidentified
I agree.
But again, right away you had Marco Rubio Celebrate the rise of the GOP becoming the quote, the new multi-racial, multi-ethnic working class party.
And so again, if you're going to play this game of, you know, celebrating diversity and all these different groups, then okay, fine, but acknowledge that your base is still largely white working class.
You know, so I think I'm more on your side of this.
It's like, we need to view these as policies for everyone.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Pedro, we've got to bounce.
What's your parlor or Twitter handle?
unidentified
My Twitter handle is Emereticus.
E-M-E-R-I-T-I-C-U-S.
steve bannon
You're fantastic.
That's the reason we're winning.
Rising group of public intellectuals like Pedro.
Thanks, brother.
Appreciate it.
jack maxey
Thank you.
steve bannon
Buskirk will be with us on Wednesday.
Be back with Boris in a moment.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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maggie vandenberghe
Welcome back to War Room.
I'm Maggie Vandenberg, also known on social media as FogCityMidge, and we are here in Washington, D.C.
with our hosts Steve Bannon, Jack Maxey, and Raheem Kassam.
Yeah, and just been covering the Million MAGA March today and just sort of You know, everything that's happening on social media.
Yesterday, it was massive.
All of the videos that were being shared regarding the violence happening over the weekend.
What we saw in the aftermath of the Million MAGA March.
And it's unbelievable to me how these videos have been removed from the internet.
And how the media is now latching on to anything but covering this event.
So yeah, trending on Twitter right now, we have hashtag 25th Amendment, which of course is because they're trying to say yet another way of getting President Trump out of office.
So it just, it never ends.
steve bannon
You can't, but that's good.
You can't steal, you can't steal an election, right?
We're not gonna let you steal it.
So now they gotta try, you know, all kind of nefarious ways.
President Trump is the president.
Up until November 3rd, he's the president today and he's gonna be the president at high noon and thereafter.
On the 20th of January, Year of Our Lord 2021, and to make sure that happens, we now have a lawyer from the campaign, Boris Epstein.
You remember Boris from last week, he was out in Arizona.
But Boris, I want to ask, there's some mass confusion going around, because last night the Washington Post puts out an article, and hey, it may be fake news, but it certainly had attached A filing by the Trump campaign that looked like a deal that had a red line, which is what happens on contracts when you're taking stuff out, that took out half of the case.
You've got an equal protection argument.
About different counties did different things to cure ballots and that was all Democrats cured or Republicans didn't cure, so that's equal protection.
But I actually think more importantly you got, hey, what happened with these 2.6 million mail-in ballots, in particular the 600,000 in Philadelphia and in Allegheny County, That nobody got to lay eyeballs on about the about the naked ballot situation, the security ballot that was inside that should have run, you know, somewhere between 3 and 5 percent, which would be at the 78 percent that Biden's pulling down votes there.
Guess what?
The arithmetic works out that Donald J. Trump won Pennsylvania.
So what is going on?
boris epshteyn
Steve, good to be with you.
Last week I was Arizona Boris.
Today, I guess I'm Law Boris, which I love.
So, here's the deal.
The amended complaint, and of course the media will construe and misconstrue anything and everything against this president.
The amended complaint specifically, in paragraph 4, references the 682,479 mail-in and absentee ballots, which were processed without review.
And that's in Allegheny and Philadelphia County.
So it is right there.
It's in paragraphs 132 through 150.
There's no doubt that it is specifically addressed in the amended complaint.
Now, having said that, we are continuing to make sure that that complaint is put together perfectly and lays out our absolute best case.
uh... and that is what uh... maya rudy giuliani is in that is in charge of right now as we speak i come to you from from off from headquarters and the team is working on it and i wish i could assure you the president we best actually best represented and the best arguments will be put forward as we move ahead so let me just understand so the audience gets this You're going to argue, there's going to be an argument, I take it it's in Williamsport, Pennsylvania is where the court is in the central district of Pennsylvania.
steve bannon
Tomorrow, you're going to argue in court and you're going to argue the situation with the poll watchers, not the poll watchers, the observers, the court order.
boris epshteyn
No, you were right, they're called watchers in Pennsylvania, you're right.
steve bannon
And you guys are going to argue that part of the case in addition to the equal protection?
boris epshteyn
Yes, we are going to be arguing the Watchers issue, and we'll be arguing every point of contention on behalf of the President.
But again, as Rudy Giuliani has laid out, the fact that almost 700,000 mail-in absentee ballots were counted without observers, without specifically Republican observers in these heavily Democrat counties, is an absolute violation of Pennsylvania law and a violation of equal protection as well as due process.
steve bannon
Look, it's pretty, the facts to me are overwhelming on both these ballots, right, and also the equal protection about how they try to cure in certain counties.
You've got to help our audience, because you're talking to the hardest core of the hardcore, right, of the audience.
How did this happen that the Washington Post got this and then nobody from the campaign actually corrected them before the story went public?
Because it caused mass confusion.
It was the lead story in the Daily Mail, the biggest site in the world.
The president had to come out and then tweet again, right, that he won and that this was all nonsense.
But how did just the mechanics work?
boris epshteyn
Well, the mechanics of this, you know, when any of the mainstream news pop a story, especially during the weekend, you know what their outreach for comment is like.
You blink and you miss it, right?
So I'm not sure of the specific back and forth, but if I had to understand really what happened is that there may have been, either there wasn't really, or may have been a request for comment which was as quick as a squirrel.
Uh, but as soon as the story, as soon as we were aware of it, both Mayor Giuliani and then President Trump have tweeted about it.
They've made it very clear that we continue to press all our best arguments.
And for those who listen to this awesome show, who watch this great show, who are fans of the Warmen, and by the way, Steve, having been across the country now the last couple weeks, let me tell you.
that in Florida, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in New York, the war room was absolutely blowing up.
People are stopping me on the street saying, hey, I saw you on the war room, probably because you have my handsome picture up there. And for those of those of you who are, that's what I'm saying, that's why it works better.
The nice cleaned up picture works great than live.
So for those of you who are MAGA deplorables, who love the President, be absolutely assured that he will, in his best case, will be fully represented in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in Michigan, in Nevada, in Arizona, and Wisconsin, and all across the country.
steve bannon
Okay, last thing, I see that you have some great communicators, have you?
Pam Bondi, Cindy Powell, Rudy Giuliani.
Is there some point in time, like say, I'm going to pick a random time, like tomorrow, that maybe in something called a press conference, we get, you know, all the killers up there, and you walk through the strategy.
Look, I love doing it in a war room.
We love doing it, but is there a way to have a forcing function and actually force the mainstream media to come and not take cheap shots, but actually to sit there and do, sit there and actually talk about, lay out the whole strategy and kind of go state by state, maybe even have Lin Wood up there.
Are you guys, because I know you're a lawyer and a great lawyer, you're also a communications expert, is there some discussion about maybe having a press conference tomorrow and actually doing that?
boris epshteyn
Well, I appreciate the love fest, as always, and the compliments are always welcome.
There's no doubt about that.
In terms of doing a press conference, we're absolutely looking at options in terms of forcing as much coverage into the media of the president's perspective, which is every legal vote has to be counted.
So rest assured that is something that we are focused on.
But we also have to make sure that all of these cases are perfectly buttoned up and the communications and the legal have to go hand in hand.
But yes, that is absolutely fully, Steve, on our radar.
steve bannon
Okay, Twitter handle on Parler, how do people get to you, Boris, during the day?
How do they follow you?
boris epshteyn
At BorisEP on Twitter, I'm on all day, every day, all night, every night.
And Parler, I've got the at Boris, sorry Boris Johnson, I've got the at Boris on Parler.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
We'll come back to you tomorrow.
Look forward to it.
Before we go to Liz Yor, talking about Boris.
He's got to add Boris on Parler.
Is Dominic Cummings not there so Boris Johnson doesn't even think about getting on the conservative side of Boris?
He loses it to Boris Epstein?
raheem kassam
We've got to remember that Boris Johnson has never thought of getting on the Conservative side of anything.
Oh, wait, except Brexit, when it suited his leadership and prime ministerial, his premiership aspirations.
Now, Boris Johnson, of course, is in quarantine again, having tested positive.
Uh, again, uh, for, for the CCP virus.
Uh, but there's a bigger scandal brewing in the United Kingdom at the moment, which is, as I said, uh, for people, uh, over a year ago, uh, his fiancée, Carrie Simmons.
Now, Carrie is somebody who I've known for many years, used to, used to knock at my bedroom window to wake me up in the mornings on her, on her way to work, and I knew back then, sorry Carrie, but I knew back then, look at Vish's face, Fish one day, one day.
unidentified
we finally broke some news here on the floor.
raheem kassam
It was only knocking at the window.
Now Carrie is a remarkably left-wing person to be in the situation that she's in, i.e. with unrestricted access to number 10 Downing Street as Boris' fiance. She's not an appointee in any sense, she doesn't have a formal role, she is effectively the first lady without even being properly married to Boris at this point in time and she is pushing the consider it. Right now she's baby mama.
steve bannon
She's about to become... they're going to get married at some point in time, right?
jack maxey
Let's remember something else about Boris.
He's got five kids.
He's not making enough money to pay for those kids.
We know his younger brother's on the take from the CCP.
He's been over there working for years.
Three months ago we had his father operate as an intermediary between the CCP. If he was here, we'd be punishing his dad on FARA violations. So this idea that Boris Johnson is on the team is nonsense. This is a guy who is at the end of his financial rope. He's at the end of his intellectual rope. We've seen what his courage is like. He's not able to lead, but he's going to have to pay some bills.
So I would default to Boris chasing the money than morality.
raheem kassam
And it's very, very similar to David Cameron, who of course was a contemporary of his at college.
The two were friends for some time.
Frenemies, maybe you could describe it as.
But Cary Simmons is really the malign influence here.
She is hyper-obsessed with the World Economic Forum and its Great Reset.
She is hyper-obsessed with this catchphrase that Boris is using now, Build Back Better, the very same that Joe Biden is using.
And she is hyper-obsessed with stopping the Brexit process.
She is a full-on globalist.
And she has, in the last week, succeeded in her six-month goal of getting Dominic Cummings, one would describe him as, you know, Boris' Bannon, removed from his position in Downing Street.
So it's a very precarious situation that Britain's walking into now.
No trade deal if there's a Biden presidency.
Going back into the European Union, potentially under Boris Johnson, the removal of the only right-wing thought leader in No.
10 Downing Street, replaced with a World Economic Forum apparatchik, Carrie Simmons.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got Liz Yor in the On Deck Circle with Kylie Jane Kramer.
Kylie Jane put on the fantastic event on Saturday when we return on The War Room.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Welcome back to the War Room.
We now have Collie Jane Kramer.
She is the co-head and partner with her mom, Amy Kramer.
We had Amy on last week and did, quite frankly, a breathtaking job with almost no resources to put together, I think, one of the seminal events in MAGA history.
Collie Jane, thank you very much for joining us today.
kylie jane kremer
Thank you so much, Steve, and absolutely.
I mean, the fact that we were able to not only do this in four days to get all the permits, the staging, everything, but the turnout was absolutely unbelievable.
But you know what?
It's very reminiscent back in the Tea Party days.
My mom was one of the original co-founders of the Tea Party movement, and we saw grassroots rising up because they were very unhappy with the way the direction of the country was going, and we're absolutely seeing that now.
With this election and people feel like it's being stolen from President Donald J. Trump.
And so we just had a massive amount of people.
There have been estimates over a million people here descending on Washington, D.C.
this past weekend.
And we're incredibly grateful.
steve bannon
Yeah, we're showing, as we have your voice up now, we're showing the footage of what you were able to accomplish.
Here's what I think, because I was there at the beginning of the Tea Party and saw the amazing job your mom and others did, in that it was so new and fresh and different at the time.
Here, there's so much hate and so much intimidation, and so many people have kind of peeled off because they don't want to lose their job.
What amazed me was the turnout, the scale of it, but also the tone of it.
The positive nature, and that we're not going to back off, these are tough people, they have great determination, but the positive nature of this, how inclusive it was, how diverse it was, how many different voices you had, and it was just, it was, the scale of it was massive.
I know you guys had nothing, had no money to do this, but it's even more powerful Then the beginnings of the Tea Party movement, because the forces aligned against it have kind of, you know, been actively involved in being aligned against it, where the Tea Party, the beginning, caught everybody by surprise.
This is, they've been waiting for it, and they wanted to, they had no intention, I gotta tell you, what you did on Saturday absolutely changed The discussion in this town, because now they realize, hey, Trumpism is so big, right?
It's so positive.
It's such a rising force that it can't be stopped, and it's changed the calculation.
Hey, trust me, these state legislatures in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in Arizona, are taking note of that.
So how did you guys pull it off in just a couple of days with no money?
kylie jane kremer
Exactly, Steve.
And it goes back to our days being in the Tea Party movement, where we didn't have very many resources.
And, you know, one of the most incredible things about the Tea Party movement, and especially now, is women stepping up.
And we just get stuff done, you know, whether it's with children or, you know, Bible study with your church.
I mean, we just get stuff done.
And I will tell you, big tech, especially these last couple weeks, have really come down on us.
And We thought that that was going to have a significant impact.
You know, Facebook stopped my group, stopped the steal when it had 365,000 people.
It was growing by 1,000 people every 10 seconds when they shut it down.
Then MailChimp came after us, and they not only disabled our account, but they kept all of our data and will not let me have access to it.
Then Eventbrite did the same thing.
They shut down our account, and then not only did they shut it down, but they emailed all the thousands of people that had RSVP'd and told them that the event was canceled, and look what happened.
You know, we're going back to kind of archaic times and, you know, in reference to technology, where it's really picking up the phone call, texting your friends, and making those one-on-one personal interactions, and droves and droves and droves of people just came and descended on DC.
You know, I think that when you're determined, you can make anything happen.
Certainly, we're stretched thin with donation or with, you know, resources.
But if people want to make a donation, they can go to trumpmarch.com because we're going to be back here on December 12th.
It's two days before the Electoral College and we will be here again with the same presence letting them know that we will not be going away.
And next weekend we will be in Georgia at the State Capitol because we're really focused on that recount and then also those two Senate seats.
So, you know, I know a lot of people have been a little overwhelmed thinking that we should already be over with the election at this point, but we just got to keep going and, you know, holidays will come and we'll be able to celebrate when we get another four years of President Donald J. Trump.
steve bannon
Okay, what day, what are you going to be at the, have you, do you have a date yet for when you're going to be at the State Capitol in Georgia?
kylie jane kremer
Yes, it is the 21st, next Saturday at noon.
And then the next event will be December 12th here in Washington, D.C.
as well.
So TrumpMarch.com, it will all be listed there.
steve bannon
Is there other social media they can get to now that's up and going that people can get access to you and your mom?
kylie jane kremer
Yes, our personal Twitter accounts we're using and then also at Women for Trump and at Women for America First and just help spread the word.
But honestly, Steve, one of the most powerful things is that just save the image on your phone and text it to 10 friends and then ask them to text it to 10 more friends because of big tech censorship.
It's just unreal.
It truly is unreal what they're trying to do to silence the American people.
And they're talking about, you know, Russian interference.
They talked about a PP tape for four years, and really it's going on here in the United States.
You know, election interference from Big Tech.
It truly is astonishing.
steve bannon
Yeah, the oligarchs, the trashers.
Kylie Jane Kramer.
Okay, we're going to have, we're going to emphasize this every show.
Thank you so much, and say how do you do.
kylie jane kremer
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Fantastic job.
Incredible job.
This afternoon, I want to give a heads up, we're going to have more of your interviews, particularly about the diversity of this crowd.
Jag Maxx is the first one to pick up, hey, they got Republic of Vietnam flags, they had the new federal state of China.
This was a gathering of many different voices and many different forces in one setting.
To show that freedom and this thing of populism is going throughout the world.
We're going to have additional interviews, Maggie, that you're going to have in the afternoon show.
maggie vandenberghe
Yeah, I've been busy editing.
It's going to be some great content coming up soon.
steve bannon
I tell you what, it's so amazing, Colleen Jane, what they've done.
Okay, now, talk about, and I actually made a film, I think it was eight years ago, called Fire From the Heartland, about the women of the Tea Party movement.
The Tea Party movement was all driven, it was female driven.
Guys talk, Women do.
Women get things done, right?
And that's why the Tea Party movement has such a massive impact.
Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Jenny Beth Martin, Amy Kramer, across the board, right?
Kylie Jane Kramer.
She was a young girl at that time.
So it was a... and this is what this new... you can see this new Trump at the foreground is being driven by women, which I think is fantastic.
Talk about a woman who's tough as boot leather.
We now have Liz Yore on.
Liz, thank you very much for joining us today.
liz yore
Good to be with you, Steve.
steve bannon
So I want you to walk through the whole thing.
We've now got an intellectual on a global basis, Archbishop Vigano, but the report, they're trying to take him down in a classic, this is a classic what the globalists try to do, right?
They identify people who are leaders and they try to destroy them.
Walk us through what's happening with Archbishop Vigano, his letters, and how they're trying to kill this guy.
liz yore
Sure.
The long-awaited McCarrick report from the Vatican finally came down last week, and it did not surprise anybody because it was typical Francis.
It was hefty, 450 pages, but short on truth.
And long on propaganda.
And basically what the report did was to cover and protect for Francis for his handling of McCarrick and to throw Archbishop Vigano, the whistleblower, under the bus and blame him for McCarrick.
You know, we would not have even had a McCarrick report had it not been for Vigano stepping up and blowing the whistle on Pope Francis.
Who he told that Cardinal McCarrick was a terrible serial predator and that he was put out to pasture by Benedict.
He told Francis this.
Francis ignored it and sent McCarrick off on his merry way to China and to start negotiating with the Communists.
So the report is astonishing in the But, you know, immediately Archbishop Viganò responded by a letter.
He called out each and every lie in the report.
Then he went on Raymond Arroyo's television program and further delineated what was actually going on.
You know, this is a pope like Joe Biden that is a globalist.
They are at the very least communist apologists.
And they have been installed to carry out the globalist agenda.
Viganò understands this.
Faithful Catholics understand this.
And so this McCarrick report, which mentioned Vigano 306 times, so you know precisely the whole agenda was to destroy the reputation of Vigano, who frankly, like Donald Trump, has really stepped into the shoes of the Catholic leader, has replaced the Pope of faithful Catholics.
And so the Pope had to take him down.
And I think that shows you the nature of this Pope I want to give everybody a QAnon alert, okay, because I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but they're no coincidences.
steve bannon
McCarrick is now Mr. McCarrick, right?
He goes from being what is called the American Pope, he's the Cardinal here in Washington DC, a complete powerhouse.
Right?
He's the guy that's one of the most depraved of all the pedophiles in the church, and actually promoting other pedophiles around him, correct?
He's also the guy that's, he's the centerpiece, he's the mastermind in back of the deal with the CCP.
He's the guy that actually goes and as Miles Gross says, hey, they got these guys on two things.
One, they're giving them cash.
The other thing is they're blackmailing them.
Because they understand how debauched they are.
So walk us through, why is McCarrick, and McCarrick's into this whole Joe Biden, I'm a good Catholic, he and Biden are thick as thieves.
So there's no conspiracies, but there's no coincidences.
Walk us through the coincidences around Mr. McCarrick.
liz yore
Okay, number one, he was in charge of restarting the CCP negotiations with the Vatican in its secret deal.
Where there's secrecy, there's Ted McCarrick.
McCarrick was sent to China at least three, possibly four times to do the bidding of Francis.
And it ended up in a secret deal that was renewed a couple months ago.
Secondly, McCarrick and Biden and Francis were behind the secret negotiations to normalize relations with the United States and Cuba.
This is the Cuba deal that was the centerpiece of much of the Obama-Biden administration's second term.
And just to show you how horrible this deal was, the Cuban Americans didn't forget.
You know, they have long memories.
And because the election wasn't stolen down in Florida, we know that the Cuban Americans came out in great support for Trump because they knew that Joe Biden had pushed this normalization agreement with the brutal regime that killed many of their relatives, a regime that they fled to the United States seeking freedom.
So, you know, this is our globalist pope who makes deals with the CCP and communist Cuba.
Furthermore, you know, we don't know who's who's getting more money from the CCP, the Biden family or the Vatican.
And that's what it's come down to.
And in the middle of this nefarious alliance is mccarrick who army has been known on to be the promoter of the globalist communist agenda i saw on the screen at the march people understand this date they're saying stop the communist takeover that's precisely mccarrick in france's let's let's let's let's let's let's we got a balance but on our side the football you have cardinals and
steve bannon
and you have archbishop uh... the for god of the canal On their side of the football, you have Mr. McCarrick, and you have Pope Francis.
By the way, Mr. McCarrick, I think he's the most senior in the history of the Church.
I think he's the most senior Cardinal to have ever been laicized, ever been basically kicked out, stripped of everything.
This is what you're dealing with.
Remember, Pope Francis, his number one thing is climate change.
In 16, he says you're not a Christian if you want to build walls, like on the southern border.
Okay, we're going to return.
Michael, Matt, from The Remnant, next.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
jack maxey
This is Jack Maxey bringing back the War Room here, sitting with Steve Bannon, Fox City Midge, Raheem Kassam.
I thought we'd do a little bit of pandemic coverage.
But before we get there, I wanted to just remind our viewers, Liz Yor was just on, and I think those of faith, there's a very quick Isaiah 520.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
This is what is happening at the heart of the Catholic Church right now.
Be aware, people.
But now I want to go into the pandemic.
We are seeing closures all around the country.
This fear-mongering is back in place, but what I want everybody to understand While we see infections rising, we see the death rate decreasing.
I looked at the ICU bed usage in Chicago where Mayor Lori Heavyfoot has just decided to hit everybody with new lockdown through Christmas.
No groups more than six people, etc, etc.
But if you look at their hospitalization utilization, it is in no way a crisis.
And this is true, I believe, across the United States.
Now, when we talk about this vaccine that's been in the news lately, Moderna, they came out today, they said it's 95% effective.
One of the things that I find a little strange about this, they've given the vaccine to 30,000 participants, 15,000 of them received a placebo.
And since then, about 90 people have been infected with COVID-19.
Now the majority of them were people who did not get the vaccine.
But five or six of the people who did get the vaccine also got COVID-19.
Now, one of the fears was that if they got COVID-19 after getting the vaccine, it might create a larger anaphylactic kind of response.
The good news is nobody who got the COVID-19 after receiving the vaccine had anything other than a very mild case.
But this brings us to another thing.
You have Dr. Redfield a few weeks ago said, and we've seen this in scientific journals around the country, the general thesis is three to ten times the number of tested infected represents the real infected.
But Redfield said himself, and I quote, it is likely ten times.
So as of today we have eleven million infected.
That means that one-third of the country is potentially already had the coronavirus.
At 10 times that would be 110 million, 330 million Americans.
You do the math.
I know it's difficult for me, but even in that one I can handle it.
So one big question that I think everybody has to start asking What is the purpose of a vaccine?
A vaccine is to give you a little piece of the virus so that your body can fight it off and learn how to respond in the future.
Well, if one-third of the American population has already had the virus, Theoretically, and if they have survived the virus and created antibodies and a similar, shall we say, a natural vaccination, if you will.
I do not understand how it is a crisis that is going to require us to be in a state of modified lockdown all the way till next Christmas, as we hear per Dr. Fauci.
If one-third of the people have already had the virus and therefore Theoretically have antibodies to that virus the same that they would get from a vaccine.
Why the crisis here?
Why does the whole country need to be shut down?
People, I think that we all have to begin thinking about the other side of this.
There was a wonderful thing that occurred in Denmark yesterday.
They were going to try and create a new set of laws that were going to be very draconian.
And guess what?
Thousands of regular people in Denmark showed up banging pots and pans in the street.
Saying we're not going to do it anymore.
And guess what?
They backed down.
It is time for the free people of this world to start saying enough.
None of the mortalities that we are seeing in the United States in any way could justify the continued shutdown.
We are proposing, if we follow Fauci's plan, to leave all of the school children of America in the lurch.
What, for another year?
Talk about equal protection.
We provide public education.
steve bannon
This is what I don't understand.
Fauci's up there, and this is my problem with Fauci.
Has the task force come out and said this?
jack maxey
Has anybody said this?
steve bannon
He's out there as a government official on CNN with Jake Tapper.
He's throwing out dropping bombs like, oh, it's the second or third quarter of 2021.
I mean, we've got a balance sheet right now that's got, what, $29 trillion on the, you know, $29 trillion.
We've blown up the Fed's balance sheet.
We're running record deficits.
The economy, I'm telling you, New York City and Washington, D.C., they're ghost towns.
Right?
Completely destroyed New York City.
The greatest city in, not just in the country, but the thing.
And Fauci just kind of wanders out there like he always does, and this is what upsets me so much about Fauci and why somebody doesn't get control of him.
How can a government official that's supposed to be in the task force, not just rat the president, oh he hasn't been in a meeting in months.
Okay, be that what is may, but Pence still heads it up with Azar.
How can he walk out there and say, we're going to be, you know, and we need to lock this thing down, we're not going to be through this until the end of 2021.
What was that?
Are you giving personal, you're the head of infectious disease, are you supposed to be able to give me your personal opinion?
If that's your professional opinion, do you take it up through the chain of command?
I mean, this is what the bombs are this guy's dropping every day, and then makes these, they're making all these claims about this vaccine.
jack maxey
Right?
steve bannon
That's, to me, quite shocking.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We're going to be back at 5.
We've got a lot more to go through.
We're going to go through the math.
We're going to talk about the legal strategy.
We're going to highlight the case in Pennsylvania tomorrow.
Okay?
The first tip of the spear.
We're going to talk about Lynn Wood's case down in Georgia.
We're going to talk about the Great Lakes A society's got a case in Michigan going to appellate court, I think, this afternoon.
We're going to talk about the math and back of the steal or the attempted steal.
Also more pandemic.
Midge is going to have more interviews from the great rally in March.
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