Behind the Bastards - Part Two: Elon Musk is Being Sued, LMAO
Aired: 2023-06-08
Duration: 52:11


=== Dangerous Bathroom Installations (14:30) ===

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[00:01:58]  Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast in which we talk about bad people.
[00:02:07]  And often, the bad person we talk about happens to be Elon.
[00:02:18]  What's a good fun middle name for Elon?
[00:02:20]  Balthazar?
[00:02:21]  No, we do that for Jordan Peterson.
[00:02:23]  Elon, we're talking about Elon Musk.
[00:02:25]  We're continuing with losses.
[00:02:27]  Elon Jordan Balthazar Shapiro Peterson Musk.
[00:02:33]  Musk.
[00:02:34]  Elon Crowder Musk.
[00:02:37]  Elon Crowder.
[00:02:39]  Boy.
[00:02:40]  That's a horrible AI mashup of the human.
[00:02:42]  That's not something I want to think about.
[00:02:44]  I want to wipe that out of my brain.
[00:02:46]  No, no, no.
[00:02:47]  I want that to be secondhand news.
[00:02:49]  Wait, no contacts for that.
[00:02:52]  I guess we're not doing.
[00:02:55]  Have you guys listened to the, I guess it's a DJ group, Fleet Mac Wood?
[00:02:59]  I don't know what you call them.
[00:03:01]  But they, they do like, you know, fucking dance.
[00:03:05]  Wait, this isn't a joke.
[00:03:05]  This is like 4-4.
[00:03:08]  No, no, yeah, Fleet Mac Wood.
[00:03:09]  They do, like, they, they're like a touring act.
[00:03:12]  They do like shows and shit where it'll be like an hour or two hours.
[00:03:16]  And they're like, they're all like beats that are made up of like cut up and mixed up Fleetwood Mac songs.
[00:03:21]  Like it kind of, it fucking slaps.
[00:03:23]  Like find yourself some Fleet Mac Wood and listen to it.
[00:03:25]  Wait, I am not exaggerating, joking.
[00:03:29]  Hyperbole.
[00:03:30]  I will be listening to that as soon as we're done.
[00:03:32]  Oh, you, you're, you're gonna like it a lot.
[00:03:34]  It fucking, it's some of the best stuff.
[00:03:35]  I do it for writing a lot.
[00:03:38]  It's good to work out too.
[00:03:39]  Oh, yeah.
[00:03:40]  Good to do yard work too.
[00:03:42]  Yeah, good to good to you know, uh, make love and fun with.
[00:03:46]  All that, all that good stuff.
[00:03:47]  All that good stuff.
[00:03:49]  You know, in case you're out macking.
[00:03:51]  Yeah.
[00:03:53]  Um, so anyway, uh, do, do, do, looking out my front door at these Elon Musk, at this Elon Musk show.
[00:04:01]  So we switched to CCR.
[00:04:05]  Yeah, you know what?
[00:04:06]  This episode, it's all Cretans, baby.
[00:04:09]  Um, not a Cretans fan, Cody?
[00:04:14]  That's fine.
[00:04:15]  How do you feel about the Eagles?
[00:04:17]  How do you feel about what?
[00:04:20]  The Eagle CCR.
[00:04:22]  I think CCR is fine.
[00:04:25]  I mean, I've never heard of a more fortunate son than Elon Musk.
[00:04:31]  Oh, oh, there we go.
[00:04:32]  We're in business now, baby.
[00:04:34]  Hell yeah.
[00:04:36]  There we go.
[00:04:37]  Perfect.
[00:04:38]  So when we left off, our hero had decided to prevent Twitter from paying its janitors for work that they had already provided after or before being fired.
[00:04:50]  Again, potentially a crime.
[00:04:53]  In essence, it quickly became clear to Killian, who's the person who replaced the last person whose job it was to pay for rent and stuff, that Musk's intended method of operation was to obtain services from vendors without any intention of keeping the agreements or paying for services requested and received.
[00:05:09]  Killian's concern that Musk truly intended to apply this approach to Twitter's rent obligations was confirmed for the last time on December 9th, 2022, when Mendoza specifically informed Killian that Musk had decided Twitter would no longer be paying rent globally.
[00:05:23]  Globally?
[00:05:25]  Yeah.
[00:05:25]  And again, Mendoza is one of these people from, I think, the boring company.
[00:05:28]  It's one of those folks that it's one of the people that he brought in to manage stuff who isn't that guy's girlfriend.
[00:05:35]  Very funny.
[00:05:36]  Living in the office with their infant.
[00:05:38]  Awesome.
[00:05:39]  With the baby in charge.
[00:05:40]  I'm just like, where do they put it in?
[00:05:41]  Is the baby's crib like a desk drawer and they're sleeping on the pullout?
[00:05:45]  It has to have been, right?
[00:05:48]  I spent a lot of time in and around like the California medical marijuana industry, which is a pretty sketchy business, but like the working standards at Twitter sound a lot worse.
[00:05:59]  Absolutely.
[00:06:00]  Good stuff.
[00:06:01]  Yeah.
[00:06:05]  There was free weed for people.
[00:06:08]  Usually when somebody got murdered, you didn't know them very well.
[00:06:11]  You know, a lot of benefits of that over Twitter.
[00:06:16]  So in, yeah, Killian was like, I tried to convince Musk via his lieutenant Mendoza that like they were putting the company in tremendous jeopardy and that they wouldn't be able to renegotiate any of their leases if they defaulted on rent, which makes sense.
[00:06:32]  Mendoza in response tells him that Musk had decided Twitter would only pay rent over his dead body.
[00:06:38]  Hey, go right.
[00:06:39]  This next part's perfect.
[00:06:41]  Cody, I got to read this to you guys.
[00:06:45]  Mendoza conveyed that Musk had made that statement during a 4 a.m. conversation that day.
[00:06:50]  I just had to say, have you ever heard somebody actually use that expression?
[00:06:59]  It's very hack.
[00:07:00]  Like, over my dead body?
[00:07:02]  No.
[00:07:02]  That's not a thing people actually say.
[00:07:05]  Well, he's not a creative man.
[00:07:06]  No, only when people are being like silly, right?
[00:07:09]  Like somebody's like joking around.
[00:07:11]  Having a laugh.
[00:07:12]  You might say that, but no.
[00:07:13]  Yeah, having a laugh.
[00:07:14]  It's like saying, I'm putting my foot down, where it's like, what does that even mean?
[00:07:18]  Like, that doesn't, that's not how you, anyway, whatever.
[00:07:22]  Yeah, I've had, I've said that.
[00:07:24]  I've said, like, I'm putting my foot down over like somebody wants to eat at Wendy's on a road trip and I want Popeyes, you know?
[00:07:30]  But like, anyway, whatever.
[00:07:31]  Elon, silly, fundamentally unserious man.
[00:07:37]  Musk's instructions to simply ignore Twitter's contractual obligations and force Killian to breach contracts and destroy relationships he had spent more than a decade building would have been more than enough to render it impossible for Killian or any reasonable employee to remain employed at Twitter.
[00:07:51]  But that was not the only issue.
[00:07:53]  Musk was also making clear that his reckless disregard included disregard for both the law and for the lives and safety of his colleagues and employees.
[00:07:59]  Here we go.
[00:08:00]  For example, Davis told Killian that Musk wanted to add a bathroom next to his office so Musk didn't have to wake his security team and cross half the floor to use the bathroom in the middle of the night.
[00:08:10]  Killian explained that it would take time to get the necessary permits, but promised to begin that process right away.
[00:08:15]  In response, Davis instructed Killian not to bother with obtaining permits because, to paraphrase, we don't do that.
[00:08:21]  We don't have to follow those rules.
[00:08:22]  Okay.
[00:08:23]  Shocked, Killian reminded Davis that if they did not get a permit, no licensed plumber would perform the work for fear of jeopardizing their license.
[00:08:29]  Davis responded by instructing Killian to hire an unlicensed plumber instead.
[00:08:34]  Just go find an illegal plumber for Elon Musk's crime.
[00:08:38]  Fuck up a dude on YouTube, man.
[00:08:40]  Who fucking cares?
[00:08:41]  It's also what an unserious, silly coward of a man who, like, I can't go to the bathroom in my own company offices at night without waking up a security team.
[00:08:54]  Like, I won't cross the floor to go take a shit without armed men at my back.
[00:08:58]  Like, I'm sorry, Elon, you're not in that much danger at the fucking Twitter offices.
[00:09:02]  Oh, wait, it was because he didn't like wait.
[00:09:04]  I thought it was like the excuse was that he doesn't want to wake up his security team anyway.
[00:09:09]  Well, so I'm, I guess, I'm confused about which stupid thing he's doing.
[00:09:15]  So, like, is it he doesn't want to wake them up because, like, oh, they're like sleeping on my floor because I'm a maniac and like I need them there.
[00:09:23]  Yeah, that's why is it like, well, I don't want to go down the hall because if I go down the hall, I have to wake them up so that they follow me because they're my security.
[00:09:30]  I need my yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:09:32]  Yeah, he's saying that he doesn't want to have to get them up to con to follow him across the floor to the bathroom.
[00:09:38]  You don't, you're not just go to the bathroom, man.
[00:09:41]  You're fine.
[00:09:42]  Like, they're tweeps.
[00:09:43]  They're not going to murder if you don't have that.
[00:09:45]  They're going to sound peeing down the hall.
[00:09:47]  Those are technically assassination coordinates, right?
[00:09:49]  Right.
[00:09:50]  Well, yeah, you can OS in your way to fucking launching a drone at him.
[00:09:57]  Very funny, too, that he's like, it's dangerous to have a bathroom put in a place without, you know, going through the process to make sure it's safe to put a bathroom there.
[00:10:07]  Like, there's a bunch of infrastructure a bathroom needs that you can't just put everybody everywhere.
[00:10:11]  And the answer is like, well, put hire in a legal plumber for the boss's back.
[00:10:17]  Fundamental disconnection from reality or even an understanding of basic construction or how things work.
[00:10:24]  Well, and just this idea that like I don't need to abide by the rules.
[00:10:28]  Well, it's like in this case, Elon, the rules are there because like not every space can right.
[00:10:33]  It's not like some like, oh, random like red tape.
[00:10:36]  Oh, no, we got to do this.
[00:10:41]  Yeah, it's but yeah, maybe, maybe like the floor underneath that bathroom isn't rated to, or maybe you'd have to like cut, you know, one of those beams that you're not supposed to cut in order to like fit in the plumbing and stuff.
[00:10:52]  It's more important to follow that kind of stuff in like an office building.
[00:10:59]  But yes, look, I know, I know.
[00:11:01]  Thank you.
[00:11:02]  Yeah, I know a lot of people who have done their own electrician work and projects, and 0% of them should have done that.
[00:11:11]  But very few of those people would have brought in an unlicensed plumber to put a bathroom in some random part of a house because it's just a different risk matrix.
[00:11:20]  You know, it's, it's, it's not smart when you're talking about, especially like, it's one thing if it's like a fucking trailer, like that's a single level.
[00:11:28]  Like when you're like, I don't know, 10 floors up or whatever, just the risks compound.
[00:11:32]  Right.
[00:11:32]  Because I'm saying like a house, like obviously, like, it's your house.
[00:11:35]  Like, if you got to do it, it might be a disaster.
[00:11:39]  But like, it's a, it's a multi-level building.
[00:11:42]  What are you doing, man?
[00:11:43]  You're kind of other people's lives are affected by your well, those don't matter.
[00:11:49]  Now, and I do want to note, folks, if you are looking at doing your own electrical work for a home project, go to amazon.com and look up CoolZones Media, CoolZone Media's Home Electrician's Guide.
[00:12:03]  It's six pages long.
[00:12:05]  It's everything you need to know about doing electrical work.
[00:12:09]  You'll be as skilled as a licensed journeyman electrician if you read this book.
[00:12:14]  It includes such bangers as you don't need to wear gloves and metal conducts electricity, so wear a tinfoil hat.
[00:12:23]  All great stuff keeps you safe, you know, keeps you healthy.
[00:12:28]  Thanks for the good advice.
[00:12:30]  Yeah, Sophie said I shouldn't start a side business teaching people how to do electricity, but I just don't think it's a good use of my time.
[00:12:38]  Yeah, you are pretty busy.
[00:12:40]  I think it's a great use of my time because people need to be liberated.
[00:12:44]  It sounds like it all checks out.
[00:12:46]  So good job.
[00:12:48]  I'd rather you spend your time.
[00:12:50]  Safety for it.
[00:12:54]  Sophie, I love convincing people to electrocute themselves.
[00:12:58]  That's easily my passion, really.
[00:13:03]  I mean, safe limits.
[00:13:04]  Anyway, I mean, to do things safely.
[00:13:08]  Safely.
[00:13:09]  Yes.
[00:13:10]  Health and safety.
[00:13:11]  So now thoroughly bewildered, Killian attempted to explain that the use of unlicensed tradespeople was a condition of their lease and that failure to abide by it would put them in breach of that lease.
[00:13:20]  Davis responded that management did not care about any of this, that they weren't interested in ensuring the work was performed in accordance with the standards required by the lease, by the city of San Francisco, by the state of California, or any other authority.
[00:13:32]  They just wanted it done.
[00:13:33]  It got worse.
[00:13:34]  Musk announced via the transition team that he was going to be installing hotel rooms at Twitter HQ.
[00:13:40]  Killian was initially told that the hotel rooms, soon renamed to sleeping rooms to avoid triggering the suspicions of the city inspectors, were just being installed to give exhausted and overworked employees a place to nap.
[00:13:52]  Though the changes had initially been simple, if unorthodox, removing a conference table and installing a bed, Davis instructed Killian to begin planning for and implementing the addition of features like en suite bathrooms, in addition to other changes to the physical plant.
[00:14:05]  Concerned about how city inspectors would react to Twitter's plans, Killian emailed the transition team to note that the changes they had made thus far were limited to just furniture and therefore were code compliant, but that Twitter's future planned changes would require permits and more complicated code compliance.
[00:14:20]  In response, Hollander visited him in person, and that's the Steve's girlfriend and emphatically instructed him to never put anything about the project in writing again.

=== Illegal Hotel Rooms Revealed (10:08) ===

[00:14:31]  That sounds long.
[00:14:33]  Sorry, this all sounds very expensive.
[00:14:37]  Yeah.
[00:14:38]  Yeah.
[00:14:38]  Could you not write about any of the thing?
[00:14:40]  Well, it's also like they're saying we want to install a bunch of illegal hotel rooms.
[00:14:44]  Don't put in any, and he like writes back why this is not legal.
[00:14:48]  And they're like, don't put stuff about this in writing.
[00:14:51]  And then Hollander appeared surprised and distressed that Killian did not inherently understand that this was not a project for which Musk and the transition team wanted a written record.
[00:15:03]  And she was particularly angry that he had sent an email about it, which is, it's, yeah, it's that people just don't understand.
[00:15:13]  Sounds like a real bad moon rising.
[00:15:15]  I had to throw one in here if we're still doing it.
[00:15:17]  Are we still doing it?
[00:15:18]  No, that was that was good.
[00:15:20]  I mean, I guess we are because you just did it.
[00:15:24]  Or I'm not.
[00:15:24]  Sorry.
[00:15:25]  Yeah.
[00:15:27]  Is that if there's a one that's there's not that there just aren't that many that we all know no I uh I I agree so he wants to like save money that's what I'm saying.
[00:15:42]  That's what I'm trying to By doing all this project so people don't have to live right, but I'm just saying, like this whole thing was about saving money and firing people and all these hoops.
[00:15:57]  Just the times, there's just a massive amount of wasted money getting thrown at these projects, at these ideas or in theory.
[00:16:06]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:07]  I mean, it does seem like a huge, a huge waste of money, or at least, you know, I heard that through the grapevine.
[00:16:13]  Oh, yeah, there we go.
[00:16:15]  Here we go.
[00:16:16]  There we go.
[00:16:17]  How are you doing there, Cody?
[00:16:19]  Happy with this?
[00:16:19]  Chugging off the direction that this series took.
[00:16:22]  Or I guess I'm going to keep on chugling.
[00:16:26]  Okay, there we go.
[00:16:27]  That's definitely a credence song.
[00:16:30]  I'm on board now.
[00:16:31]  It's a lot.
[00:16:32]  It's a lot easier to do this if you just make up.
[00:16:38]  When the city inspectors came to inspect the hotel rooms, they expressed surprise and relief to Killian, saying, This is just furniture.
[00:16:44]  We expected more drastic changes.
[00:16:46]  As instructed by the transition team, Killian did not tell the inspectors of the future plans to expand the changes to the sleeping rooms.
[00:16:52]  But he realized with growing unease that his silence was effectively a lie of a mission and one that would be undeniable and obvious once the planned changes had been completed in the near future.
[00:17:01]  Killian began to understand that his loyalty to Twitter and his desire to protect the company he loved from Musk and the transition team was going to be increasingly challenged by his employer's expectation that he would lie, defraud, and even break the law in Musk's direction.
[00:17:13]  Killian was soon instructed to circumvent the landlord's lighting control system, which was most insensitive in compliance with California's Title 24 energy code because the lights were bothering people living in the hotel rooms when their small movements at night would trigger the lights.
[00:17:28]  So he submitted a request to this for the landlord, and the landlord said no, because this is a requirement because it's not a living area.
[00:17:37]  It's an office.
[00:17:38]  Yeah.
[00:17:39]  When the landlord denied Twitter's request, Killian was instructed to disconnect the lighting himself, which was not safe and which he was not qualified to do.
[00:17:46]  So Musk did ask him to do electrical work without any sort of training or knowledge.
[00:17:51]  That's cool.
[00:17:52]  That cool zone life.
[00:17:53]  That's the good stuff.
[00:17:54]  Yeah, living the cool zone life.
[00:17:56]  Look, Killian, you know, hit us up.
[00:17:58]  I'll give you a half price copy of my guide to home electrical work.
[00:18:03]  You know, teaches you how to put a double tap in your own breaker so you can run an arc welder in your basement or your living room or your bedroom.
[00:18:12]  Why not weld in your bedroom?
[00:18:14]  There's no reason not to.
[00:18:15]  In your shower.
[00:18:16]  You know, mattresses can't catch on fire.
[00:18:18]  Yeah, a shower welder, Cody.
[00:18:20]  If you've never welded it, oh, God, shower welding.
[00:18:24]  Shower beer and a shower welder.
[00:18:26]  That's a good afternoon.
[00:18:28]  A water bed in every office.
[00:18:31]  Bray wire.
[00:18:33]  And a welder next to every water bed.
[00:18:38]  This is cool.
[00:18:39]  This is the midnight special.
[00:18:41]  Okay.
[00:18:41]  Go ahead, Cody.
[00:18:43]  No, yeah.
[00:18:44]  They are asking him to do the midnight special.
[00:18:46]  They are asking him to do the midnight special.
[00:18:48]  I find this, obviously, it's very funny.
[00:18:53]  But so he's cutting all these corners and doing like you just like all the fraud and the lying and the bucking regulation for like, you know, legitimate safety, like concerns and stuff like that.
[00:19:07]  He also owns like a car company and like builds rockets and stuff.
[00:19:12]  And it feels like maybe this is an indication that that kind of approach and culture might be a part of these other companies where things and like safety are even more of a concern.
[00:19:26]  Yeah.
[00:19:27]  And have been a problem.
[00:19:28]  They're having a problem and maybe they're hiding information that they're doing this at these other companies too.
[00:19:36]  Yeah.
[00:19:37]  You would expect this to cause like a serious problem for his other companies, like this kind of attitude towards safety that's been really demonstrated at Twitter.
[00:19:46]  You would expect this to have caused him a problem like someday, but someday never comes.
[00:19:50]  Seems to it's another great song.
[00:19:53]  God Cody's feeling blue.
[00:20:02]  Yeah, that's the good stuff.
[00:20:03]  That's the good stuff.
[00:20:07]  Okay.
[00:20:10]  Okay.
[00:20:11]  So, yeah, Killian.
[00:20:14]  Nope.
[00:20:14]  No, no, no.
[00:20:17]  So Achillian objects to doing electrical work that he does not know how to do.
[00:20:22]  And this Steve's girlfriend berates him for refusing to do the work himself.
[00:20:27]  She was not satisfied until he brought her in and had her look into the drop ceiling and see what the electrical system looked like to understand that he could not safely do the work himself and to be like, look at this.
[00:20:38]  What do you expect me to do?
[00:20:40]  I'm like a building manager.
[00:20:42]  I'm not supposed to be doing that.
[00:20:44]  That part was like, ostensibly, he's just a guy.
[00:20:48]  Yeah, he's just a dude.
[00:20:50]  He's like, I don't know how to do it.
[00:20:52]  Look, this is dangerous.
[00:20:53]  If I start messing around here, we're all going to be on the graveyard.
[00:20:57]  It's another, it's another crazy thing.
[00:20:59]  Hey, man, as long as I can see the light.
[00:21:04]  That's another one.
[00:21:05]  Oh, what a good bit.
[00:21:07]  I just am watching the light die in Cody's eyes every time we do this.
[00:21:11]  Do another song.
[00:21:12]  It's fine.
[00:21:12]  Caught between a rock and a hard place.
[00:21:14]  That's not a credence song.
[00:21:16]  That's part of the actual lawsuit.
[00:21:18]  Killian hired an electric.
[00:21:20]  It does, it could be a credence song.
[00:21:23]  Caught between a rock and a hard place.
[00:21:25]  Killian hired an electrician to disconnect these rooms independently, putting Twitter in a violation of both the building code and their lease.
[00:21:32]  It got worse.
[00:21:33]  They are writing this with a little bit of like, you know, yeah.
[00:21:36]  Yeah.
[00:21:37]  If they didn't do the same thing.
[00:21:39]  All that stuff would be a lot more enjoyable, but it's fine.
[00:21:41]  I haven't heard a word tweep in a while.
[00:21:44]  You're right.
[00:21:44]  You're right.
[00:21:45]  They have been avoiding that lately.
[00:21:46]  Maybe they got a copy editor for like the last quarter of this.
[00:21:50]  Yeah.
[00:21:51]  That's really where you want the extra polish.
[00:21:53]  You bother people at the beginning and then slowly be like, oh, wait, I don't hate this anymore.
[00:21:59]  Yeah.
[00:21:59]  Yeah.
[00:22:00]  That's how you draw in readers by irritating them.
[00:22:03]  That's that's every writer's trick.
[00:22:05]  That's why the stand just opens with Stephen King talking about his taxes for 1968, really laying out his deductions.
[00:22:14]  Then they get into that plague, you know, once he's got you.
[00:22:18]  Okay, this, this actually, this next part's pretty fucking egregious.
[00:22:21]  Killian was instructed to install space heaters in the hotel rooms in further violation of Twitter's lease.
[00:22:26]  Killian was also instructed to place locks on the hotel room doors, a request that thus betrayed the lie that they were intended to be temporary rest spaces for exhausted tweets.
[00:22:36]  California code required locks that automatically disengage when the building's fire suppression systems are triggered.
[00:22:42]  Killian was repeatedly told that compliant locks were too expensive and instructed to immediately install cheaper locks that were not compliant with life safety and egress codes.
[00:22:50]  So the law was like if you have a lock on a door in an office building, it has to auto-disengage if the fire suppression system fits in, right?
[00:23:00]  Otherwise, you are trapping people in a room when there's a room.
[00:23:04]  They're locked in.
[00:23:05]  That's a problem.
[00:23:06]  Yeah.
[00:23:06]  You don't want to do that because that's this man.
[00:23:12]  He has the tunnel boring company and the car company, and they're making these tunnels.
[00:23:17]  And it's just like this theme of being stuck in a fire is seems to permeate through all of his endeavors.
[00:23:24]  And I just think it's alarming.
[00:23:27]  Yeah.
[00:23:28]  It does seem like they the government, you know, something should happen here.
[00:23:36]  Otherwise, otherwise, all of these Twitter employees are going to go up like an effigy.
[00:23:43]  It's another credence.
[00:23:44]  Another credence is that one?
[00:23:45]  Fucking figures.
[00:23:47]  It's all a real run through the jungle.
[00:23:50]  It's a real run through the jungle.
[00:23:52]  That's right, Katie.
[00:23:54]  So, yeah.
[00:23:57]  Killian is like, here's the locks that will not burn our employees alive.
[00:24:02]  And Musk's people are like, no, it's too expensive to have locks that don't endanger their lives.
[00:24:07]  Go with the cheap ones that endanger their lives.
[00:24:10]  Killian protested that no licensed tradespeople would perform work that violated the building code.
[00:24:14]  Killian protested that installing these locks would put lives at risk, that in case of an earthquake or fire, which was made dramatically more likely by the non-compliant electrical work and the presence of the space seaters he'd been instructed to install, these locks would remain locked, blocking first responders from being able to access the rooms and the tweeps within.
[00:24:32]  God damn it.
[00:24:33]  Nobody cared is the next law.
[00:24:35]  Nobody cared.
[00:24:36]  Nobody cared.

=== Nobody Cared About Safety (04:46) ===

[00:24:39]  We've been having lots of laughs with our bits this episode.
[00:24:42]  Now you're feeling blue.
[00:24:45]  Got it.
[00:24:46]  Good job.
[00:24:47]  You're back on the board, Cody.
[00:24:49]  Back on the board.
[00:24:49]  I hate this man so fucking much.
[00:24:51]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:24:52]  He's a monster.
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:54]  Yeah, he fucking.
[00:24:55]  How do you even sleep at the moment?
[00:24:57]  He really sucks.
[00:24:58]  I'm the kind of person.
[00:24:59]  On a couch by afraid wire.
[00:25:03]  That's how you're doing.
[00:25:04]  Also a credence.
[00:25:08]  Couch by afraid wire?
[00:25:10]  Again, might as well be.
[00:25:15]  Good stuff.
[00:25:16]  Sorry, Katie.
[00:25:17]  But you know what?
[00:25:18]  You were talking about how much you hate this guy.
[00:25:20]  But I bet you.
[00:25:21]  You know what abides by all state and local fire codes?
[00:25:27]  The sponsors of our podcast.
[00:25:35]  There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
[00:25:39]  Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
[00:25:43]  You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
[00:25:46]  And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
[00:25:49]  We always say, trust your girlfriends.
[00:25:53]  I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends...
[00:25:57]  Oh my God, this is the same man.
[00:25:59]  A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
[00:26:04]  I felt like I got hit by a truck.
[00:26:06]  I thought, how could this happen to me?
[00:26:07]  The cops didn't seem to care.
[00:26:09]  So they take matters into their own hands.
[00:26:12]  I said, oh, hell no.
[00:26:14]  I vowed I will be his last target.
[00:26:16]  He's going to get what he deserves.
[00:26:21]  Listen to the girlfriends.
[00:26:22]  Trust me, babe.
[00:26:24]  On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:26:33]  Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
[00:26:39]  I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting.
[00:26:44]  Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians.
[00:26:49]  Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name.
[00:26:59]  And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more.
[00:27:04]  Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin.
[00:27:07]  You related to the Phantom at that point.
[00:27:10]  Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.
[00:27:12]  That's so funny.
[00:27:13]  Share each day with me each night, each morning.
[00:27:22]  Say you love me.
[00:27:25]  You know I.
[00:27:26]  So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:27:33]  What's up, everyone?
[00:27:34]  I'm Ego Modem.
[00:27:35]  My next guest, you know, from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network.
[00:27:43]  It's Will Farrell.
[00:27:46]  My dad gave me the best advice ever.
[00:27:50]  I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
[00:27:55]  I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
[00:27:57]  I'm working my way up through it.
[00:27:59]  I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent.
[00:28:01]  He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
[00:28:06]  Yeah.
[00:28:07]  He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
[00:28:09]  And he's like, just give it a shot.
[00:28:11]  He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
[00:28:19]  If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
[00:28:22]  It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
[00:28:28]  Just hang in there.
[00:28:29]  Yeah, it would not be.
[00:28:31]  Right, it wouldn't be that.
[00:28:32]  There's a lot of luck.
[00:28:33]  Yeah.
[00:28:34]  Listen to Thanksgiving on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:28:44]  Okay, we're back.
[00:28:46]  Yeah.
[00:28:47]  So, between the demands that he effectively participate in theft and fraud and instructions to take actions in violations of California law that would put his colleagues' lives at risk, thank God they don't put tweeps there.
[00:29:00]  He had to walk away from the job.
[00:29:01]  So Killian quits, resigns December 10th, 2022.
[00:29:06]  And that brings us to part F: allegations relating to piercing the corporate veil.
[00:29:11]  All right, they're getting a little bit showy with the language here, and I just want to acknowledge that, but it's fine.
[00:29:17]  Gavia, have your money.
[00:29:21]  It makes it easier for us podcasters.
[00:29:24]  So I am grateful.

=== Twitter Bastardy and Liability (09:21) ===

[00:29:26]  There is such a unity of interest and ownership between Twitter and Musk that Twitter's separate corporate status no longer exists.
[00:29:32]  That's fair.
[00:29:33]  Musk, through X Holdings One, now owns more than 50% of Twitter.
[00:29:37]  He dominates Twitter's decision-making and operations.
[00:29:40]  For instance, Musk changes Twitter's policy by conducting polls from his Twitter account.
[00:29:46]  They're talking about how he brought back a bunch of Nazis, including Paul Nealon, who threatens Thryn's mind with murders.
[00:29:54]  That's good stuff.
[00:29:56]  Yeah, he just got back on, so we're happy with that.
[00:30:02]  On Information Belief, Musk has commingled his other assets with Twitter, bringing engineers and executives from his other companies, such as Tesla and SpaceX and the boarding company, to provide services for Twitter.
[00:30:11]  On information and belief, those engineers and executives have not been separately hired, retained, or paid by Twitter for any services they have provided to Musk at Twitter.
[00:30:18]  Moreover, Musk has repeatedly asserted that Twitter is on the edge of insolvency and may declare bankruptcy.
[00:30:23]  On information and belief, any such bankruptcy would be the result of the debt Twitter incurred as part of financing Musk's purchase of Twitter in the first instance.
[00:30:31]  On Information Belief, Twitter is undercapitalized specifically as a result of Musk's purchase of the corporation.
[00:30:38]  Yeah, so as such, applying to California law, plaintiffs are entitled to an order holding Musk personally liable for any amounts of.
[00:30:48]  Ah, so that's what they're building towards here: they think they want to personally like hold Musk himself liable for the money that he didn't pay these people, which is fun.
[00:30:58]  I doubt somehow I doubt he'll ever have to pay any money to anyone.
[00:31:02]  Yeah, he seems to just get away with not doing that, except for paying his lawyers, presumably.
[00:31:06]  I wasn't born on the bayou.
[00:31:07]  I know how this story plays out.
[00:31:09]  Yeah, there we go.
[00:31:10]  There we go.
[00:31:11]  You were down.
[00:31:12]  Up on the bend down on the corner.
[00:31:14]  Down in the corner, up around the bend.
[00:31:16]  Should have been down on the corner.
[00:31:17]  Down on the corner, out in the street.
[00:31:19]  The up around the bend is another.
[00:31:20]  It's a different song.
[00:31:21]  I was doing it one.
[00:31:22]  The Up Around the Bend is another one.
[00:31:23]  Yeah.
[00:31:23]  Okay.
[00:31:24]  Okay.
[00:31:24]  Anyway.
[00:31:24]  You're knocking him out.
[00:31:25]  Well, you know more than I'm fucking over, Cody.
[00:31:28]  With.
[00:31:29]  Yeah.
[00:31:29]  Yeah.
[00:31:31]  Okay.
[00:31:32]  So, let's see here.
[00:31:34]  Plaintiffs are entitled to an award of damages and an amount to be calculated at trial, but reasonably believed to exceed $1 million, plus pre- and post-judgment interest costs, attorneys' fees, and penalties as authorized by the state.
[00:31:47]  Which is honestly like as much of a big deal as they're making here.
[00:31:51]  I was going to say a lot of money for Elon.
[00:31:53]  Did you say $1 million?
[00:31:56]  Yeah, $1 million.
[00:31:57]  I mean, it's just kind of like all they can really ask for is the severance they were owed, and the, you know, there's some amount of compensatory damages, but it's not going to be a huge amount.
[00:32:08]  My guess, just based on how much, like, how florid a lot of this lawsuit is, is that they are primarily hoping to hurt him.
[00:32:18]  Yeah, it's a PR thing by putting this stuff out here.
[00:32:20]  Yeah.
[00:32:21]  And like, yeah, if he does, you know, a million dollars, he's like, I mean, I guess it's not nothing to him because he needs that money because he'll lose a lot of money.
[00:32:28]  Yeah, at this point, maybe he doesn't need to.
[00:32:30]  Yeah, it's sort of a symbolic thing.
[00:32:32]  And then, yeah, to sort of ding him in the public eye, mostly.
[00:32:35]  Yeah.
[00:32:36]  So this next bit is they're talking about violations of the California Federal and the California War Act.
[00:32:43]  Yeah, this means that Twitter is required to give plaintiffs 60 days advance written notice of their terminations.
[00:32:50]  And yeah, obviously they're alleging that Twitter did not abide by the Warren Act.
[00:32:55]  They're also required to provide plaintiffs with full benefits during their non-working leave, which is like what they gave people who weren't willing to sign the thing saying they would like work themselves half to death and go into hardcore insano mode.
[00:33:11]  So yeah, Twitter violated a bunch of California employment law, right?
[00:33:15]  So that's this next section here.
[00:33:16]  Plaintiff Arnold was employed at Twitter's San Francisco, California office.
[00:33:20]  Plaintiff Pylarts worked remotely from her home and was assigned and reported to Twitter's San Francisco office.
[00:33:25]  As such, for Warren Act purposes, her single site of employment is the San Francisco office, and she is entitled to the protections of the California Warren Act.
[00:33:32]  Another plaintiff was employed by Twitter's San Francisco office until COVID and then thereafter worked remotely from his home and was assigned and reported to the San Francisco office.
[00:33:40]  So you've got all these employees that should have been covered under the Warren Act.
[00:33:45]  Twitter did not advise them that they had been placed on non-working leave during this period.
[00:33:49]  Instead, they merely cut off access to Twitter's internal systems until they stopped paying him.
[00:33:54]  They don't tell people they've been laid off.
[00:33:56]  They just stop giving them money and wait for them to figure it out themselves, which is what happened to that company founder that Twitter had acquired prior to Musk taking over, who like stopped getting money.
[00:34:08]  Yeah, that guy in like Iceland.
[00:34:10]  Yeah.
[00:34:12]  It was like a big problem for him because he can't actually fire that guy.
[00:34:16]  He fought with him, but then was like, oh, and now he like, every once in a while, he like tweets at him like, we're friends, right?
[00:34:22]  Yeah.
[00:34:23]  God, it is, that's so fucked up to just be like, yeah, we're just going to stop paying these people, but we'll have them keep working for a while without knowing that they don't work here anymore.
[00:34:32]  Cool guy.
[00:34:33]  Just good stuff.
[00:34:35]  Yeah.
[00:34:37]  Yeah.
[00:34:38]  So it seems like a bunch of these are just like people who were required to be provided with notice before being let go and aren't provided with any kind of notice.
[00:34:46]  So that's cool.
[00:34:48]  Yeah.
[00:34:49]  Let's see.
[00:34:50]  This next bit is violations of the California labor code.
[00:34:55]  Apparently, the state itself has not yet given notice that it will or will not investigate a bunch of the identified violations here.
[00:35:04]  Sure would be cool if they did.
[00:35:06]  Kind of seems like everybody's scared of Elon.
[00:35:10]  And yeah, it would be neat to, I don't know, see very basic consequences apply to this guy.
[00:35:16]  Bare bones.
[00:35:18]  Yeah.
[00:35:19]  Yeah.
[00:35:20]  Twitter violated section 227.3 of the California label code by failing to provide eligible employees with their accrued vacation pay at termination.
[00:35:29]  That's great.
[00:35:29]  This goes in with them not like paying severance and stuff.
[00:35:32]  Though Twitter purported to provide employees with unlimited time off and some employees actually received unlimited time off, vacations required manager approval and many employees were subjected to manager-implused caps on theoretically unlimited vacation time.
[00:35:46]  Boy, where have we heard all that before?
[00:35:48]  Some managers instructed their employees, uh, they supervised to limit their vacations to one week per quarter.
[00:35:53]  Other managers refused to approve more than four weeks per year.
[00:35:56]  Other managers instructed employees.
[00:35:58]  Now, this sounds like Twitter bastardy that is well outside of Elon Musk.
[00:36:02]  Like, this is the standard, like, that's why companies do this kind of shit.
[00:36:06]  Uh, like, you have unlimited vacation days, but we have to approve them.
[00:36:10]  So, actually, you have very limited vacation days, but we don't have to pay you if we shit can you at any point in time.
[00:36:16]  Um, companies are good stuff, good stuff.
[00:36:20]  Yeah, I love that.
[00:36:21]  It's one of those, like, I remember when we got unlimited vacation days, and I was like, this is at our old employer, and being like, oh, that sounds kind of cool, but also we don't take time off anyway.
[00:36:34]  Like, everyone here is a work monster, and it kind of just seems like you're cutting out the fact that we have to be paid for vacation days if you ever lay us off.
[00:36:42]  Um, oh, I guess we all got fucked, and we did.
[00:36:46]  We did get fucked in that, which was cool, dude.
[00:36:50]  Yeah, yeah, good stuff, yeah, uh, yeah, that's a real unfortunate.
[00:36:58]  I was gonna say, it's a real ramble tamble, yeah.
[00:37:03]  Oh, God, another one, huh?
[00:37:05]  Okay, so uh, this last bit is talking about California family rights interference.
[00:37:11]  Um, so basically, you know, there's a bunch of rules as to like how you have to deal with like people who have kids that are on like your insurance and all this kind of stuff.
[00:37:21]  People get like leave, yeah, Musk famously once have a kid people to have babies and families, uh, yeah, but not the people that work for him, yeah, really need to hit that home before getting into this section, yeah, yeah.
[00:37:35]  Like, he's he's he's spent so much time talking about how like the biggest threat to the world is that people aren't having enough kids, um, that like birth rates are down.
[00:37:46]  Uh, it's like I mean, it's a pretty common like, yeah, uh, in August of 2022, uh, so right before all this happens, he warns, quote, population collapse due to low birth rates is a bigger risk to civilization than global warming.
[00:38:01]  Um, yeah, which is definitely not true, um, yeah, and and definitely silly, but also, like, I don't know, Elon, if you believe that, should you not be encouraging people to be able to afford to have kids and like take the time out to raise them, maybe do something other than just like have a bunch of kids yourself, right?
[00:38:24]  Well, and I also think what Elon cares about is people having kids, he doesn't care about them raising them because he doesn't raise his own children, yeah, he also cares about certain people.
[00:38:34]  I guess that's consistent, you know, yes, certainly the right people having kids, those are not allegations made by the tweeps, Cody.
[00:38:43]  So, we'll have to save those for another two hours for the end.

=== Encouraging Kids to Have Kids (03:40) ===

[00:38:47]  Yeah, don't shovel words into the tweeps, sorry, tweet holes, Cody.
[00:38:54]  Sorry, God.
[00:38:55]  Um, you know, who you know whose hole isn't full of tweeps.
[00:39:00]  Everybody's full of tweeps, Susie Q.
[00:39:03]  I, Susie Q, sure, yeah, Susie Q's hole is clear of tweeps, and so are the holes, all of the holes of our sponsors.
[00:39:11]  There are many, many holes.
[00:39:13]  I want a donut: there's two golden rules that any man should live by: rule one: never mess with a country girl.
[00:39:27]  You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
[00:39:30]  And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
[00:39:34]  We always say that, trust your girlfriends.
[00:39:37]  I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends.
[00:39:41]  Oh my god, this is the same man.
[00:39:43]  A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
[00:39:48]  I felt like I got hit by a truck.
[00:39:50]  I thought, how could this happen to me?
[00:39:52]  The cops didn't seem to care.
[00:39:54]  So they take matters into their own hands.
[00:39:57]  I said, oh, hell no.
[00:39:58]  I vowed I will be his last target.
[00:40:01]  He's going to get what he deserves.
[00:40:05]  Listen to the girlfriends.
[00:40:07]  Trust me, babe.
[00:40:08]  On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:40:18]  Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
[00:40:23]  I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting.
[00:40:28]  Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians.
[00:40:34]  Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name.
[00:40:43]  And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more.
[00:40:48]  Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin.
[00:40:52]  He related to the Phantom at that point.
[00:40:54]  Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.
[00:40:56]  That's so funny.
[00:40:58]  Sherry stay with me each night, each morning.
[00:41:06]  Say you love me.
[00:41:09]  You know I.
[00:41:11]  So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:41:18]  What's up, everyone?
[00:41:19]  I'm Ego Moda.
[00:41:20]  My next guest, you know, from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network.
[00:41:27]  It's Will Farrell.
[00:41:31]  My dad gave me the best advice ever.
[00:41:34]  I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
[00:41:39]  I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
[00:41:42]  I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent.
[00:41:46]  He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
[00:41:51]  Yeah.
[00:41:51]  He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
[00:41:54]  And he's like, just give it a shot.
[00:41:55]  He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
[00:42:04]  If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
[00:42:06]  It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there.
[00:42:14]  Yeah, it would not be.
[00:42:15]  Right, it wouldn't be that.
[00:42:16]  There's a lot of luck.
[00:42:18]  Listen to Thanks Dad on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

=== Luck vs Talent in Layoffs (03:28) ===

[00:42:28]  We're back.
[00:42:29]  We're thinking about donuts, the most erotic of the breakfast foods next to cereal.
[00:42:36]  Okay.
[00:42:36]  Yeah, fair enough.
[00:42:37]  Next to cereal.
[00:42:38]  Yeah.
[00:42:39]  I was going to say maybe a craving, but a whole donut hole.
[00:42:42]  I mean, a donut, a donut, just a donut.
[00:42:44]  Depending on what you like anyway.
[00:42:48]  Bill's donut.
[00:42:49]  It's that's what's so hot about Cheerios.
[00:42:52]  It's like a bunch of holes.
[00:42:54]  Like an orgy.
[00:42:55]  So California.
[00:42:57]  In a ball.
[00:42:58]  California.
[00:42:59]  I'm going to say we could do this bit for a really long time.
[00:43:03]  We could.
[00:43:03]  We could.
[00:43:04]  That'll really extend the runtime.
[00:43:07]  Yeah, I get messages every week from people telling me about one pump, one quick cream-related music.
[00:43:13]  That coffee creamer is still in the middle of the day.
[00:43:16]  I don't know what to do with that.
[00:43:17]  Without a doubt.
[00:43:19]  God willing.
[00:43:20]  God willing.
[00:43:21]  Next, I do miss the office and the poison room.
[00:43:23]  We had some good times there.
[00:43:25]  Newer listeners don't even know what the poison room was.
[00:43:29]  They think we're joking about the fact that we used to work at an office that had a room full of deadly boys in it.
[00:43:34]  We do.
[00:43:35]  We did.
[00:43:36]  Had a dog on the ceiling too.
[00:43:40]  It sure did.
[00:43:40]  Have a dog on the ceiling.
[00:43:42]  Those were the days of our lives, like sand through the hourglass.
[00:43:46]  That was a reference to a soap opera that my mom watched when I was a small child.
[00:43:50]  Ah, boy, we're really hitting it out of the park this week.
[00:43:56]  Look, you know, after 50,000 or so, sometimes I'm low on fuel.
[00:44:02]  Yeah.
[00:44:03]  Rambled too.
[00:44:03]  Yeah, the old Ramblin' man.
[00:44:05]  Ramblin' man.
[00:44:06]  That's one of theirs, right?
[00:44:08]  Probably not.
[00:44:08]  Someone else's song.
[00:44:10]  Anyway, California law bars Twitter from discriminating on the basis of race, sex, gender, family status, disability, age, and other grounds.
[00:44:19]  Pylarts is a woman.
[00:44:20]  That's one of the plaintiffs over the age of 40.
[00:44:22]  Arnold is bisexual and over the age of 40.
[00:44:24]  The actions of Twitter took to lay off or fire its employees were discriminatory.
[00:44:28]  As discussed above, Twitter manufactured pretextual reasons to terminate employees in large numbers.
[00:44:33]  On information and belief, Twitter's actual decision-making as to whom to include in the mass terminations targeted women, older employees, minorities, and employees who had taken or scheduled family leave.
[00:44:42]  Twitter retained employees who were not members of protected groups who had lower performance or seniority or with less qualifications than Pylarts.
[00:44:49]  Twitter retained employees who were not members of protected groups who had lower performance or seniority or with less qualifications than Arnold.
[00:44:56]  Twitter's conduct in the mass terminations was oppressive, fraudulent, and malicious.
[00:45:00]  On information and belief, Twitter's offices, directors, or managing agents, including defendant Musk, authorized and ratified this conduct and engaged in such oppressive, fraudulent, or malicious conduct themselves.
[00:45:11]  The decision of which employees to include in the mass layoff was made from Twitter's California headquarters.
[00:45:16]  Pylarts' sex, female, was a substantial factor in motivating Twitter's decision to terminate Pylarts.
[00:45:21]  Pylarch's age, over 40, was a substantial factor motivating Twitter's decision to terminate Pylarts.
[00:45:26]  Arnold's sexual orientation, bisexual, was it so?
[00:45:29]  Yeah, I mean, these are all they're saying substantial factors in why they were terminated.
[00:45:34]  I don't have trouble believing that, given kind of the quality of people that I think Musk was bringing in here.
[00:45:38]  I do, I will say, I do kind of wonder if they might be crediting there being more planning in the layoffs.
[00:45:46]  But, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
[00:45:50]  I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Musk didn't even put enough thought into this to be big enough with it, too.

=== Substantial Factors for Termination (06:14) ===

[00:45:56]  I don't know.
[00:45:58]  Yeah.
[00:45:59]  Hard to say.
[00:46:00]  So that's that's the lawsuit.
[00:46:02]  That's what these guys have put together.
[00:46:04]  Guys and ladies and other folks have put together.
[00:46:08]  And tweeps.
[00:46:09]  I don't know.
[00:46:10]  Yeah.
[00:46:10]  Tweeps.
[00:46:11]  This is what the tweeps have said.
[00:46:14]  I hope they win.
[00:46:16]  I don't hold out a lot of faith that Musk will be made to pay any money, but I at least hope it causes some problems for them.
[00:46:23]  Eventually, Twitter will be lying in a tombstone shadow.
[00:46:28]  Nice.
[00:46:29]  Cody, that was beautiful.
[00:46:30]  That was really good.
[00:46:30]  That was a really way to bring this home.
[00:46:32]  Yeah.
[00:46:33]  Thank you so much.
[00:46:33]  Yeah, that was gorgeous.
[00:46:34]  In fact, I'm going to say that I'm proud, Mary, of you.
[00:46:38]  Wow.
[00:46:39]  And I'm going to say that you're a gold dust woman.
[00:46:41]  Yeah, full circle.
[00:46:43]  I just really think like we didn't get enough out of that one.
[00:46:50]  Good times.
[00:46:51]  Good times.
[00:46:52]  Well, everyone, that's kind of a shorter week for us here at Behind the Bastards.
[00:46:56]  But what are you going to do?
[00:46:58]  Huh?
[00:46:58]  What are you going to do about it?
[00:46:59]  Gonna fight me?
[00:47:01]  You don't know where I am.
[00:47:02]  You're gonna listen to this again?
[00:47:03]  You listen to it maybe on a slower speed?
[00:47:05]  Yeah.
[00:47:07]  Half the speed in here, you know?
[00:47:09]  Why don't you guys just be happy that you have a bunch of songs stuck in your head now and go listen to some Macwood fleet?
[00:47:18]  What was it again?
[00:47:20]  Fleet Mac Wood.
[00:47:21]  Fleet Mac Wood.
[00:47:23]  Like I am.
[00:47:25]  Yeah.
[00:47:26]  Yeah.
[00:47:26]  Listen to some Fleet Mac Wood.
[00:47:28]  You know, listen to what's coming up next, which is Cody reading the entirety of the Book of Mormon with no commentary.
[00:47:34]  Thank you for agreeing to do that, Cody.
[00:47:36]  Really appreciate it.
[00:47:39]  Yeah.
[00:47:39]  And anyway, that's going to do it for us at Behind the Bastards.
[00:47:43]  Katie and Cody, you got any plugs before Cody gets into reading his favorite religious text?
[00:47:48]  Absolutely.
[00:47:48]  We got a YouTube channel called Some More News, and it's also a podcast called Some More News.
[00:47:56]  That's so good.
[00:47:57]  Along with our other podcast called Even More News are in the same feed.
[00:48:02]  Regardless, just Google us and you'll find the things.
[00:48:04]  We'll be there on the internet places.
[00:48:08]  Excellent.
[00:48:08]  And I got to say, we do talk about Elon Musk a lot.
[00:48:11]  So if you like this.
[00:48:13]  Oh, yeah.
[00:48:13]  Although we do, we have limited it because we're like so tired of him.
[00:48:18]  I just meant in general if you want to love what we do.
[00:48:20]  We got some stuff we go into.
[00:48:22]  We're not broke.
[00:48:23]  His history, his practices.
[00:48:27]  Yeah.
[00:48:27]  His mind is good.
[00:48:30]  Yeah.
[00:48:31]  I found a copy of the Book of Mormon online for you, Cody.
[00:48:34]  It's a lot of fun.
[00:48:34]  Oh, I've got several here.
[00:48:36]  So that should help you.
[00:48:37]  I prefer that.
[00:48:37]  Oh, good.
[00:48:38]  Okay.
[00:48:39]  You keep a look of once.
[00:48:40]  Oh, you really did find it.
[00:48:43]  Yeah.
[00:48:43]  No, of course.
[00:48:44]  Yeah.
[00:48:44]  Yeah.
[00:48:45]  I think it's interesting because it opens with Nephi having been born of goodly parents.
[00:48:50]  Therefore, I was taught somewhat in all the learning of my father.
[00:48:53]  Much like Elon learned from his father how to treat people poorly, like a dick.
[00:49:00]  So I don't know.
[00:49:01]  Is Elon the prophesied one from the Book of Mormon?
[00:49:05]  Probably not.
[00:49:05]  I don't think there is a prophecied one, but I don't know much about the Book of Mormon.
[00:49:08]  Is he a pagan baby?
[00:49:10]  That's what I was going to say.
[00:49:12]  Oh, nice.
[00:49:14]  Ah, Cody.
[00:49:16]  That was a good one.
[00:49:17]  That's a hard credence song to work into this episode.
[00:49:20]  Been waiting.
[00:49:20]  Proud of you.
[00:49:21]  Oh, pagan baby.
[00:49:24]  Incredible, incredible work.
[00:49:26]  Well, this has been a special week for fans of Credence and of Fleetwood Mac, and also for fans of Fleet Mac Wood.
[00:49:36]  So you are all welcome.
[00:49:37]  Everyone else can go to hell and die.
[00:49:40]  And if you want ad-free versions of our podcasts, Cooler's Own Media, Apple, you can find it.
[00:49:46]  Just type those two into Google.
[00:49:48]  You'll get what you're looking for.
[00:49:49]  That's also linked on our social media and probably in this episode description because I'm good at my job.
[00:49:54]  Okay, well, that sounds like it's probably the case, too.
[00:49:59]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:49:59]  And, you know, until next time, remember, and it came to pass that he saw one descending out of the midst of heaven, and he beheld that his luster was above that of the sun at noonday.
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