Behind the Bastards - A Book Episode (with Rush Limbaugh)
Aired: 2022-09-15
Duration: 01:09:34


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[00:02:23]  That sometimes, boy, there's a lot of books that I have to read for this podcast, and that is exhausting.
[00:02:30]  So every now and then, we like to do a little bitty episode that is easier because I don't have to read a book.
[00:02:38]  I just have to read a book.
[00:02:39]  But in this case, I get to read it live to my friends, Katie Stoll and Cody Johnston.

=== Exhausting Book Reading (03:48) ===

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[00:02:58]  Yeah, it's the same.
[00:02:58]  They're part of the same universe.
[00:02:59]  Part of the same universe.
[00:03:00]  That's right.
[00:03:01]  Cody, you are famously playing She-Hulk in a new series of movies.
[00:03:09]  And Katie, a lot of people don't know this.
[00:03:12]  Iron Man's stunt duttable in all of the original Iron Man movies.
[00:03:16]  For the last 20 years.
[00:03:18]  The last 20 years.
[00:03:19]  That's right.
[00:03:20]  Hey, sorry that dried up for you.
[00:03:23]  Yeah, it does.
[00:03:24]  It is a shame that there's no more Iron Man roles, but I have a feeling we're all going to do fine in this new career we have in which we're going to be reading a very special book by Rush Limbaugh titled Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims.
[00:03:41]  Wait.
[00:03:42]  Wait a second.
[00:03:43]  Wait, fuck you, man.
[00:03:44]  Hold on.
[00:03:46]  When you show me this book, I didn't realize he wrote it.
[00:03:49]  Oh, I mean, this is like some bizarre fan fiction that you know.
[00:03:54]  No, look at this.
[00:03:55]  Look at this cover.
[00:03:56]  I want you to look at this fucking cover, stare into it.
[00:04:01]  Looks like a romantic novel, kind of.
[00:04:03]  It kind of between this person and their horse.
[00:04:08]  Yeah, you've got like the big-headed caricature drawing of Rush Limbaugh in colonial garb and his horse.
[00:04:14]  And I know because I've read a couple reviews of this, that's his sidekick.
[00:04:18]  He's a talking horse.
[00:04:20]  Oh boy.
[00:04:22]  The plot of these stories, as far as I have learned from reviews, I haven't read the book yet, but I've read some reviews, is that Rush Revere is like a, is like a history teacher at a public school, and he goes back in time to teach kids the history of the United States of America.
[00:04:39]  This isn't fucking amazing.
[00:04:41]  Yeah.
[00:04:41]  I mean, these are number one New York Times best-selling books.
[00:04:44]  And one of the things there's a lot of people.
[00:04:46]  You liar.
[00:04:47]  You want to lie.
[00:04:49]  What I hate about them is that they're really quality printing jobs.
[00:04:53]  Like people talked about that in the reviews, but like, no, like, look at this.
[00:04:56]  Look at it.
[00:04:57]  Like, beautiful illustrations.
[00:04:59]  Oh, yeah, photos.
[00:05:00]  Like, these are, it's a really well put together book.
[00:05:04]  Well, he hides it.
[00:05:05]  Love a book that feels nice.
[00:05:07]  Good feeling book.
[00:05:08]  Like, I hate all of the resources that clearly went into making this very well put together book on an aesthetic level.
[00:05:15]  And then look at this fucking back cover.
[00:05:17]  Like, it's like Rush Limbaugh, an actual picture of him, like, standing and smiling.
[00:05:23]  I mean, we need to also wear a leather jacket.
[00:05:25]  He looks like a substitute.
[00:05:26]  Yeah, he's wearing a fucking leather jacket.
[00:05:28]  He looks like the substitute teacher who like comes in in a leather jacket with a helmet and like tells you he's ridden a motorcycle to work.
[00:05:35]  But then like later in the day, one of the kids makes fun of his name and he just like slaps the kid.
[00:05:40]  And then you have to have like a meeting with the principal about how he's not going to be allowed to be a substitute.
[00:05:44]  To borrow a phrase from Cody, it's very weekend dad.
[00:05:48]  It's very weak end dad.
[00:05:50]  And then I think the thing that we have failed to describe for our listeners is that the cover, the Paul Revere and the horse, it is Rush Limbaugh's face on Paul Revere's body, if I'm not mistaken, right?
[00:06:04]  Oh, it certainly is.
[00:06:05]  Yes, there's no doubt of that.
[00:06:07]  That cherub-like face with a jaunty pilgrim hat and his talking horse, apparently.
[00:06:14]  New York Times bestseller, eh?
[00:06:18]  So I got this in the mail.
[00:06:21]  I did not purchase this book.
[00:06:22]  I got this in the mail with this card, which is covered in a bunch of obscure runes and a drawing of Cthulhu.
[00:06:30]  And inside the card, I'm going to read this.
[00:06:33]  It's from Kimberly and Thor.
[00:06:35]  My husband and I are huge fans of the show.

=== Cthulhu Card Surprise (13:49) ===

[00:06:37]  We have learned so much and also died inside from how shitty humanity can be.
[00:06:40]  We were at a thrift store recently and saw this book amongst the hardback copies of individual books and knew it was perfect for you and the gang.
[00:06:48]  And then she says the author's note had me in stitches.
[00:06:50]  So I feel like we have to start with that author's note.
[00:06:54]  And first off, Kimberly and Thor.
[00:06:57]  I want to thank you.
[00:06:58]  I nailed it.
[00:07:00]  It's so thoughtful.
[00:07:00]  We haven't even read the book yet, but I know you nailed it with the hammer of Thor.
[00:07:05]  I might instead of saying thank you, say for thank you, like a mix of fuck you and thank you.
[00:07:11]  For thank you.
[00:07:12]  Thank you.
[00:07:12]  Yeah.
[00:07:13]  Interestingly, so this is in the brave pilgrims.
[00:07:16]  Okay, so we've got, it starts off, we've got a drawing of the Mayflower that, as far as I can tell, is pretty, pretty, and a pretty accurate drawing.
[00:07:25]  It's got like a legend.
[00:07:26]  It's got like little notes.
[00:07:28]  That seems fine.
[00:07:29]  A note from the author.
[00:07:32]  We live in the greatest country on earth, the United States of America.
[00:07:36]  But what makes it so great?
[00:07:37]  Why do some call the United States a miracle?
[00:07:40]  How did we become such a tremendous country in such a short period of time?
[00:07:44]  I'm going to answer that for you, Rush.
[00:07:45]  And the answer is genocide.
[00:07:48]  Several genocides, one of which was an enslaving genocide.
[00:07:53]  Yeah.
[00:07:54]  So that's good, but he does not.
[00:07:56]  He says, instead of after that saying genocide, he says, after all, the United States is less than 250 years old.
[00:08:03]  I want to try and help you understand what American exceptionalism and greatness is all about.
[00:08:08]  It does not mean that we Americans are better than anyone else.
[00:08:12]  It doesn't mean that we think we're better than everyone else.
[00:08:15]  That is literally what we say because he's like, it doesn't mean that there's anything different to us as human beings or that we've never faced problems.
[00:08:21]  American exceptionalism and greatness means that America is special because it is different from all other countries.
[00:08:27]  What the fuck?
[00:08:28]  It's different.
[00:08:31]  You're not saying the same.
[00:08:32]  It's not special because we're inherently better.
[00:08:35]  We're just different in a way that's exceptional.
[00:08:38]  And that's not saying that we're better.
[00:08:41]  We're just exceptionally different.
[00:08:43]  We're exceptionally, it's like a special difference that is like above everybody.
[00:08:47]  So, like, we're not better.
[00:08:48]  We're just more exceptional.
[00:08:50]  The Roman Empire practiced chattel slavery on a massive scale, and the Mongolians carried out a series of horrific genocides in order to colonize large areas of land.
[00:09:00]  But those are different than what the United States did because the people spoke different languages.
[00:09:08]  See, they were speaking like Latin and whatever Mongolian.
[00:09:12]  No, we did that stuff while speaking English, which means it's fine.
[00:09:18]  It's okay.
[00:09:18]  It's good that we did it.
[00:09:21]  That's what makes us special is that we spoke English.
[00:09:24]  The words, the words that we used were.
[00:09:27]  The same meanings of the words, more or less, but yeah, absolutely the same meanings, but different words.
[00:09:32]  Different, yeah, different sounds.
[00:09:34]  That's all that matters.
[00:09:35]  Yeah.
[00:09:36]  So I'm going to continue with Rush here.
[00:09:38]  It is a land built on true freedom and individual liberty, and it defends both around the world.
[00:09:43]  So there's another, I have notes on this one as well.
[00:09:47]  I might refer people to our episodes on the CIA or on Henry Kissinger and all of the different times that the United States, but Rush was a big fan of all of the democracies we overthrew because they were generally left-wing.
[00:10:00]  I don't know.
[00:10:00]  This is what's kind of one of the things I read when I was prepping for this was a Chicago Tribune review of this book, which I might pull up for a second.
[00:10:09]  But basically, the author was like, Yeah, Rush Limbaugh is like a right-wing ideologue, but the book's actually fine.
[00:10:16]  It doesn't have, you know, much that's objectionable and the history is okay.
[00:10:20]  And it's like a pretty good children's book.
[00:10:21]  And like, as soon as reading it, what I think is dangerous about this is that Rush is obviously doing this to groom children, right?
[00:10:30]  Like, that's the reason you write a book like this is to like.
[00:10:33]  But I thought the left was full of groomers.
[00:10:36]  Well, we could talk about the age of women that Rush Limbaugh tended to approach, but he's attempting to like inculcate kids with his ideas.
[00:10:45]  And he's doing it, I think, pretty intelligently.
[00:10:46]  And the fact that a guy who I think is probably more or less disinterested at the Chicago Tribune could read this and be like, well, this isn't very political, is evidence of how politicized to the right our history education is.
[00:10:58]  Because like one of the things that guy I have to bring up the Chicago Tribune article because there's a quote from it that is, I think, like emblematic of kind of the some of the things that most Americans just tend to kind of like accept as red and that I found kind of like unsettling.
[00:11:21]  Here's the exact line.
[00:11:22]  Rush's political viewpoint certainly shows up, but less than you might expect.
[00:11:26]  He even defines American exceptionalism in a matter unlikely to offend Rachel Maddow, which I guess you might be right because she might not be offended, but also she just made a statement about how she likes hanging out with Tucker Carlson.
[00:11:40]  Yeah.
[00:11:40]  Again, there's a lot to say about it.
[00:11:42]  See, I missed that.
[00:11:43]  Yeah, she loves running into him.
[00:11:45]  He's they're all nice people to each other.
[00:11:47]  People to each other, exactly.
[00:11:49]  Yeah.
[00:11:51]  Which is for all of his flaws, one of the things I like about, I'll always like about Jon Stewart is he does not pretend to like people like Tucker Carlson.
[00:12:00]  Yeah, why would you?
[00:12:01]  Yeah, but anyway.
[00:12:03]  I know why they would.
[00:12:04]  Why they because it's good for money.
[00:12:06]  Yeah, because they're all basically whatever, whatever.
[00:12:10]  Anyway, the role of the United States is to encourage individuals to be the best that they can be, to try to improve their lives, to reach their goals and make their dreams come true.
[00:12:22]  In most parts of the world, dreams never become more than dreams.
[00:12:26]  In the United States, they become true every day.
[00:12:30]  I had a friend with a dream of dying.
[00:12:33]  Well, it was a nightmare, but it was a nightmare of dying from lack of affordable insulin.
[00:12:38]  And then they did.
[00:12:39]  That's a dream, a nightmare that came true.
[00:12:43]  Cody, that couldn't have happened.
[00:12:45]  Do you think that would have happened in Denmark?
[00:12:46]  Do you think people are dying from lack of insulin in Denmark?
[00:12:49]  No, I think that's literally not.
[00:12:50]  That is a dream that will not come true in Denmark.
[00:12:54]  Those are specifically American dreams right there.
[00:12:57]  That's an American dream, baby.
[00:12:58]  That is the exceptional American dream.
[00:13:06]  Katie, I know you like poetry.
[00:13:08]  You must have read A Dream Deferred by Langston Hughes, which is a poet about how dreams only come true in America.
[00:13:14]  Yeah.
[00:13:14]  If I'm remembering it properly.
[00:13:16]  Yeah, that's exactly right, Robert.
[00:13:18]  That's what Langston was getting on about.
[00:13:22]  We are a page into this book.
[00:13:24]  We are even past the forward.
[00:13:26]  No, this is a note from the author.
[00:13:29]  Forward is kind of gauche.
[00:13:31]  I hope it talks about his other titles.
[00:13:35]  I was thinking about Limbaugh Revere.
[00:13:39]  Paul Rush Vere.
[00:13:40]  Honestly, there are a lot of options.
[00:13:42]  I would completely change my opinion on this book if he'd had the courage to call his character Limbaugh Revere.
[00:13:49]  If he had the Limbal to do that, if he had the Limballs.
[00:13:51]  If he had the Limballs, yes.
[00:13:54]  Wow, that was a lot of hits right in a row there.
[00:13:57]  All right, I'm going to continue.
[00:13:59]  The sad reality is that since the beginning of time, most citizens of the world have not been free.
[00:14:05]  I wonder, I wonder where they weren't free.
[00:14:11]  Which places in the world have had unfree people in them.
[00:14:15]  Are you going to elaborate on the ways in which people weren't free in your book?
[00:14:20]  No, I don't think they're going to, Katie.
[00:14:22]  For hundreds and thousands of years, many people in other civilizations and countries were servants to their kings, leaders, and governments.
[00:14:29]  Now, I guess it's true that the first four of the five first presidents being slaveholders means they didn't have servants.
[00:14:37]  They had slaves.
[00:14:38]  And he does not list slaves on here.
[00:14:41]  So maybe that's maybe a search fine.
[00:14:45]  Like, yeah, upload this to like a PDF.
[00:14:47]  And then I'm sure there's a Kindle version, but I'm not going to pay for it.
[00:14:51]  We're reading this.
[00:14:52]  Again, I have to say, Emily and Thor already paid for it.
[00:14:55]  As an author, a very well-printed book.
[00:14:57]  I hate how high quality the printing of this book is.
[00:15:01]  Well, because it's like also, are the pages aged, or is that just like what it looks like?
[00:15:05]  No, no, no.
[00:15:05]  That's just what it looks like.
[00:15:07]  They did a pretty nice for like.
[00:15:08]  What year was this published?
[00:15:10]  It's very recent.
[00:15:12]  Because I can, as a conservative kid, when I was like nine or ten, I can imagine having getting this book from a family member or something and like 2013, 2014.
[00:15:22]  Okay.
[00:15:23]  Because there's two books in this.
[00:15:24]  And this is a collection.
[00:15:26]  It's an anthology of the first two Rush Revere novels.
[00:15:30]  Oh, oh, how nice for him.
[00:15:33]  Yeah.
[00:15:34]  So we're talking about the people who for thousands of years were serving.
[00:15:39]  If you look up the adventures of Rush Revere, the category is adventure series.
[00:15:48]  Gather children in niche.
[00:15:49]  I love this idea of like, oh, I need a new adventure novel by Rush Limbaugh.
[00:15:55]  I mean, there's like, there's like, he got through like seven of these before I'm going to be able to do that.
[00:15:58]  I'm looking at it now.
[00:15:58]  He's got a lot.
[00:16:00]  Yeah.
[00:16:01]  Yeah.
[00:16:02]  So we're talking about the people who for thousands of years were servants to their kings, leaders, and government.
[00:16:08]  It didn't matter how hard these people worked to improve their lives because their lives were not their own.
[00:16:13]  Imagine that.
[00:16:16]  What a horror.
[00:16:17]  They often feared for their lives and could not get out from under a ruling class no matter how hard they tried.
[00:16:24]  You can't with this guy.
[00:16:27]  Yes.
[00:16:27]  This is inconceivable to an American living in bondage to a ruling class that responds with violence anytime you try to get out from under them.
[00:16:37]  Something we can't comprehend here.
[00:16:39]  It's an unfathomable situation.
[00:16:41]  Is this still the author's note?
[00:16:43]  Yes, this is still the author's note.
[00:16:45]  We're barely making it sentence by sentence.
[00:16:47]  Many of these people lived and continue to live in extreme poverty with no clean water, limited food, and none of the luxuries that we often take for granted.
[00:16:56]  Many citizens in the world were punished, sometimes severely, for having their own ideas, beliefs, and hopes for a better future.
[00:17:03]  The United States of America is unique because it is the exception to all this.
[00:17:08]  Our country is the first country ever to be founded on the principle that all human beings are created as free people.
[00:17:14]  The founders of this phenomenal country believed that all people were born to be free as individuals.
[00:17:19]  I'm sorry.
[00:17:21]  I'm sorry.
[00:17:22]  I'm just circling back to what you've already mentioned.
[00:17:25]  This article, a pretty accurate description, the author's note is completely false.
[00:17:34]  It's all lies.
[00:17:35]  It's an adventure tale.
[00:17:36]  But these are also, he is, what he's doing successfully here is he is reframing his specific line of right-wing bullshit, which most centrists dislike.
[00:17:48]  Rush Limbaugh is not a guy who had a big listenership of centrists.
[00:17:52]  And he's reframing it in a way that is very familiar to anyone who had an American grade school education and thus is like pretty inoffensive because people are kind of used to hearing it written this way.
[00:18:02]  Like I can see how people who are not regular listeners of the Rush Limbaugh show could read the, I don't think any of them would buy it because what I will say, and this kind of mitigates the danger of this book, the only people who are going to see Rush Limbaugh on a books cover and buy it for their kids are right-wingers.
[00:18:19]  But I can see how some like kind of centrist book reviewer could read this and be like, oh, it's actually not that bad.
[00:18:24]  Because like he's not, he's, he's saying, like, he's saying what is the party conservative, right?
[00:18:30]  Yes.
[00:18:32]  Well, and it's just like this is, yeah, it's, it's, it's cool.
[00:18:35]  It's cool that he's, he's, he's doing this.
[00:18:40]  Yeah, I, I, I mean, then there's also, there's some like weird Thatcherite here stuff here.
[00:18:45]  America is a place where the individual person serves himself and his family, not the king or ruling class or government, which is like Margaret Thatcher's big thing is like, we don't have a society.
[00:18:53]  There's no such thing as society.
[00:18:54]  There are individuals and there are families, right?
[00:18:57]  And this is like a very central conservative idea, in part because conservatism rests heavily on the atomization of the individual from other individuals.
[00:19:05]  And like the best way to do that is to separate people into this false idea of a nuclear family that's like the building block of civilization, as opposed to communities of people like engaging with each other for mutual benefit and support, which is like what, what, where things actually happen.
[00:19:20]  But if you get everyone atomized into this, like, no, you, you and your family are plotting, like plot, looking, thinking, because what he talks about here, when people have the freedom to look for a better future, what he means is that you as an individual have a freedom to try and earn a better future for your family.
[00:19:36]  But you as a person who is part of a collective as part of a class don't have any, like that is not part of the conservative vision of freedom, which is part of why like they love shit like the suburbs, because when you live in the fucking burbs, you are inherently separated from people who don't live there, right?
[00:19:54]  Like you're atomized.
[00:19:55]  That's anyway.
[00:19:56]  Even in the suburbs, you're on a smaller, like a smaller level.
[00:19:59]  Yeah, you're separated from all your neighbors, too.
[00:20:01]  Yeah.
[00:20:03]  This book on the pilgrims is part of the great tale of how the United States came to be.
[00:20:08]  The pilgrims came to our shores more than a century and a half before our country was established in 1776, but their reasons for coming to the new world helped to sow the seeds of our nation.
[00:20:17]  The story of the pilgrims and their arrival in the new world has been taught for hundreds of years.
[00:20:20]  And in that time, the story has been tweaked and changed by people to the point that it is often misunderstood.

=== Conservative Vision of Freedom (04:22) ===

[00:20:26]  I want you to know the real story.
[00:20:28]  Okay.
[00:20:29]  Oh boy, I bet you do.
[00:20:31]  Yeah.
[00:20:31]  And I bet all of our listeners want to know the real story, but you know what?
[00:20:34]  They want to listen to more.
[00:20:36]  Huh?
[00:20:37]  Ads for these products and services.
[00:20:39]  Now, an adventure through products.
[00:20:42]  An adventure through products and services.
[00:20:44]  Our primary sponsor for this week is my favorite sponsor, which is the organization with the plot to nuke the Great Lakes region, which I think we can all agree is a noble endeavor.
[00:20:57]  Just get rid of them.
[00:20:58]  Just get rid of those lakes.
[00:21:00]  Or make them into one lake.
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[00:22:28]  My dad gave me the best advice ever.
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[00:22:43]  He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
[00:22:48]  Yeah.
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[00:22:51]  And he's like, just give it a shot.
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[00:23:11]  Yeah, it would not be.
[00:23:13]  Right, it wouldn't be that.
[00:23:14]  There's a lot of luck.
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[00:24:47]  How could this have happened in City Hall?

=== Rushed American History (15:07) ===

[00:24:48]  Somebody tell me that.
[00:24:49]  Jeffrey Hood did.
[00:24:51]  July 2003.
[00:24:53]  Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest.
[00:24:57]  Both men are carrying concealed weapons.
[00:25:00]  And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.
[00:25:09]  Everybody in the chamber's ducks.
[00:25:12]  A shocking public murder.
[00:25:13]  I screamed, get down, get down.
[00:25:15]  Those are shots.
[00:25:16]  Those are shots.
[00:25:17]  Get down.
[00:25:17]  A charismatic politician.
[00:25:19]  You know, he just bent the rules all the time, man.
[00:25:21]  I still have a weapon.
[00:25:23]  And I could shoot you.
[00:25:26]  And an outsider with a secret.
[00:25:28]  He alleged he was a victim of flat down.
[00:25:31]  That may or may not have been political.
[00:25:33]  That may have been about sex.
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[00:25:48]  We're back.
[00:25:49]  Sophie hates it when we talk about nuke in the Great Lakes.
[00:25:52]  That's because she thinks that all of the brave men on the Edmund Fitzgerald deserve to die.
[00:25:57]  Sophie.
[00:25:59]  Wow.
[00:26:01]  Nodding along.
[00:26:02]  Wow.
[00:26:05]  To be sure, that's not the worst thing Roberts accused me of.
[00:26:09]  I'm like, hey, all right.
[00:26:12]  Okay.
[00:26:12]  So, all right.
[00:26:13]  Wow.
[00:26:13]  So I was just praising the construction of this book, and most of like the illustrations are pretty well put in.
[00:26:19]  This one is not.
[00:26:21]  This one's not great.
[00:26:22]  I love it.
[00:26:23]  I'm looking.
[00:26:25]  It is a very crude photoshop of like a ruddy-faced pill addict Rush Limbaugh's head on a colonial body.
[00:26:34]  It's a jib jab.
[00:26:36]  It's from gypsy.
[00:26:37]  And his head is bigger than a body.
[00:26:39]  He's got a little map, and it says it's listing out like the northeast coast.
[00:26:43]  It's got like Newfoundland, Cape Cod, New England, Virginia.
[00:26:46]  But instead of spelling Plymouth right, I want you to see.
[00:26:49]  Cody, can you read out how he spelled Plymouth?
[00:26:52]  Or can you see?
[00:26:52]  It's all reversed on the thing.
[00:26:54]  What the hell?
[00:26:54]  I'll read it.
[00:26:55]  It's all going to be reversed on the thing.
[00:26:56]  Plymouth.
[00:26:57]  P-L-I-M-O-T-H.
[00:26:59]  Wait, no, Plymouth.
[00:27:00]  Wait, yeah.
[00:27:01]  Try off.
[00:27:02]  Why is he spelling Plymouth?
[00:27:06]  Because nobody cared that much about the facts.
[00:27:10]  They wanted to make this look enticing to kids, and I think it does.
[00:27:14]  Again, it's a colorful book.
[00:27:16]  But the jib jab of him?
[00:27:18]  Yeah, it's bad.
[00:27:19]  Nobody read it and cared.
[00:27:20]  Yeah.
[00:27:20]  No, I mean, it was a New York Times bestseller.
[00:27:22]  These were all number one on the bestseller list when they dropped.
[00:27:25]  Yeah, yeah, but nobody cares.
[00:27:28]  We'll hope.
[00:27:29]  Yeah.
[00:27:30]  We'll hope.
[00:27:30]  I mean, like, well, I mean, I can't speak for this book.
[00:27:33]  I don't know the details, but a lot of these books, especially somebody like Rush Limbaugh, will buy them in bulk.
[00:27:38]  Yes, so that they get on that year.
[00:27:41]  It is unclear.
[00:27:42]  I mean, again, Rush was on every day when I was a kid.
[00:27:45]  So like a lot of people worshipped this dude.
[00:27:47]  2013 and 14 is a little bit past his best of date, but he was still influential.
[00:27:53]  I mean, I don't really know.
[00:27:54]  I can't, obviously, because of things like that, because of how effective the right is at gaming the New York Times bestseller list.
[00:28:02]  I cannot tell you how actually influential these books were.
[00:28:05]  But I mean, just as a kid who listened to him almost every day for years and years, I do feel like there's a pretty decent chance there's a lot of kids who were like, because if you were nine or 10 back when this book came out, you're 18 or 19 right now.
[00:28:22]  We got to have some listeners that have read these books.
[00:28:25]  Have actually because it's like for middle schoolers and stuff.
[00:28:27]  So I think they put them in school libraries.
[00:28:30]  10 to 12, 13, 14, maybe is kind of like the age for this, maybe like 9 to 12, something like that.
[00:28:36]  But I kind of suspect there's a lot of like graper types who encountered these books when they were kids.
[00:28:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:28:43]  Got copies.
[00:28:43]  We'll see.
[00:28:44]  We'll see.
[00:28:46]  Yeah, I'm trying to find the because they have usually the New York Times on their bestseller list, they have a little icon next to books on the list to indicate if a lot of them have been bought in bulk because they know that that's one of the one of the they probably didn't have that back then.
[00:29:01]  They probably didn't have it back then.
[00:29:02]  I do need to note real quick, sorry, the jib jab photo of him inside the book that you showed us.
[00:29:09]  The face of him, and you can confirm this for me if you could.
[00:29:13]  It's the same photo from the cover, his head.
[00:29:17]  Yeah.
[00:29:18]  And it's the same head from the second and third book cover as well.
[00:29:22]  Yeah, I think they just keep sticking to the same expression and they just plop it on, which is inconsequential, but you know.
[00:29:29]  Yes, it's specific detail.
[00:29:31]  So the book opens with our character Rush Revere on the deck of the Mayflower, like vomiting over the side or trying not to vomit.
[00:29:39]  He's like sick and queasy.
[00:29:41]  He's just teleported to the year 1620 and only been on the boat a little while.
[00:29:45]  I tell you, when I think of Rush Limbaugh, I assume he's vomiting.
[00:29:48]  I'm also, he also makes me.
[00:29:52]  I have to say, that is the only believable way to introduce the story.
[00:29:56]  Rush Limbaugh is the main character.
[00:29:57]  I buy it.
[00:29:58]  Historically accurate.
[00:29:59]  I'm in.
[00:30:00]  Now, the best way, the most believable way for this to open is if he starts off vomiting, then guzzles down another three or four oxies and starts weekly masturbating to like a 40-year-old Sports Illustrated magazine.
[00:30:13]  That's really the intro to Rush that I believe the most.
[00:30:16]  Well, we'll see what happens next, I guess.
[00:30:21]  This was not my first encounter with someone from the past, although I was feeling extremely queasy.
[00:30:25]  I tipped my hat and introduced myself while trying not to fall over.
[00:30:28]  I'm not a saint or a separate.
[00:30:30]  The guy has asked him, like, we should throw all you, yeah, whatever.
[00:30:33]  I'm Rush Revere, I said.
[00:30:34]  I'm a history teacher from the 21st century.
[00:30:37]  I've come to the 21st century.
[00:30:39]  Blimey, you're mad.
[00:30:40]  The whole lot of you.
[00:30:41]  You think I care if you make it to New England?
[00:30:43]  The sailor laughed.
[00:30:44]  So this is a sailor who doesn't care about the people who are on the Mayflower because they're all religious extremists, which, yeah, I guess fair.
[00:30:52]  So, okay, he pukes on this guy.
[00:30:55]  I know this for middle schoolers.
[00:30:56]  Threatens.
[00:30:57]  He probably didn't even write it, but that's really terrible.
[00:31:00]  Well, it's all terrible.
[00:31:02]  So he pukes on this sailor and the sailor threatens to beat him up.
[00:31:05]  And so he runs to his horse who is named Liberty for help.
[00:31:09]  Now, Cody, I know you have a lot of questions.
[00:31:11]  The book's about to answer them.
[00:31:13]  Now, look, I know what you're thinking.
[00:31:15]  What's a horse doing on the deck of a Mayflower in the middle of a storm toss sea?
[00:31:20]  Good question.
[00:31:21]  The truth is, my Liberty is no ordinary horse.
[00:31:24]  All right.
[00:31:24]  And then I actually was wondering that, I'm going to be honest.
[00:31:28]  The surf and stuff, yada, yada, yada.
[00:31:30]  The guy's threatening.
[00:31:31]  Okay.
[00:31:31]  So this dude is coming after him and he finds his horse and his horse says, I hope you can fly.
[00:31:38]  And okay.
[00:31:39]  Oh yes, Liberty can talk.
[00:31:41]  Yes.
[00:31:41]  Oh yes, Liberty can talk, writes Rush.
[00:31:44]  I told you he wasn't an ordinary horse.
[00:31:46]  Before the man could even turn around to see who had spoken, Liberty kicked his hind legs and sent the sailors sailing high into the eye.
[00:31:52]  And then he fell into the air and then he fell into a web of nets.
[00:31:55]  Perfect shot, Liberty said.
[00:31:57]  You appeared in the nick of time, I said, starting to feel sick again.
[00:32:00]  Leaping into the Mayflower in the middle of a storm wasn't my idea, Liberty said, speaking very fast.
[00:32:06]  Yes, I can leap to different times in American history, but I'm not the okay.
[00:32:09]  So the horse is the time traveling device.
[00:32:11]  Oh, I see.
[00:32:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:32:12]  Uh-huh.
[00:32:12]  You know, look, he's at least getting to the point here.
[00:32:15]  Yeah, he's also very hungry, which I'm not going to read all of.
[00:32:17]  That's apparently the thing that's obvious that he doesn't know the horse, though.
[00:32:20]  Yeah.
[00:32:21]  Wait, this is Hungry for Pills.
[00:32:23]  This is the first book, yes, Cody.
[00:32:25]  I know, like, it's, you know, it's customary, recommend.
[00:32:29]  It's a good idea to like start in the middle of your action, you know?
[00:32:32]  Like, there's it, and like, this is a really bad way to start this book, Series.
[00:32:37]  It is.
[00:32:37]  So, one of the things we learn here is the horse, as because he gets so sick, takes him back to modern-day America.
[00:32:44]  So, there's well, in order to travel through time, the horse has to say a catchphrase.
[00:32:49]  There's two different ones.
[00:32:50]  I think there's to get back to the modern time, it has to say rush-rush rushing from history.
[00:32:56]  And then I'm guessing to history is the other way it works.
[00:32:59]  That's a reasonable guess.
[00:33:01]  Yeah, that's the prologue.
[00:33:02]  Now we're in chapter one, where he's back at his job as a high school or middle school or whatever teacher.
[00:33:08]  Yeah, yeah, middle school.
[00:33:09]  Yep.
[00:33:10]  Yep.
[00:33:11]  The school bell rings, yada yada.
[00:33:13]  Principal Sherman also comes into the class.
[00:33:16]  Oh boy, I wonder if Sherman's going to be the bad guy because Sherman beat the Confederacy.
[00:33:22]  I don't know.
[00:33:22]  We'll see if this principal winds up sucking.
[00:33:26]  Pin in that one.
[00:33:27]  The principal of Manchester Middle School was not a small man.
[00:33:30]  If the doorframe were any smaller, the principal would have to duck his head and twist his way into the classroom.
[00:33:34]  I stood outside in the hallway as the door closed, but watched and heard the tap of the door's small window.
[00:33:40]  Attention, everyone.
[00:33:42]  Please take your seats, said the principal with authority.
[00:33:44]  He stood at the front of the classroom, hands at his sides, while his eyes scanned the desks and chairs.
[00:33:49]  I have an important announcement.
[00:33:50]  The room went silent.
[00:33:52]  It was apparent that the principal Sherman did not tolerate disrespect.
[00:33:55]  I have some unfortunate news, he said.
[00:33:57]  Your teacher, Miss Borrington, needed some extra time away from the academy to help care for a sick family member.
[00:34:02]  The academy?
[00:34:03]  Nobody calls a middle school the academy.
[00:34:05]  The academy.
[00:34:07]  Okay, whatever.
[00:34:08]  Anyway, he's introducing his subscribers.
[00:34:09]  We have health insurance, and if nurses were covered, she wouldn't have to take time off from school.
[00:34:15]  Well, doesn't Rush not think people should take time off and would want this teacher's pay?
[00:34:20]  Well, but act and stuff.
[00:34:22]  He does not explain this.
[00:34:23]  He just calls it a middle school.
[00:34:24]  But the fact that he says it's an academy and the principal announces that they have only the best teachers here.
[00:34:29]  I think this is a fancy private school for rich kids.
[00:34:32]  Only the best teachers.
[00:34:34]  Yes, only the very best of teachers.
[00:34:37]  Say the exceptional teachers, I would say, actually.
[00:34:40]  An exceptional school.
[00:34:40]  Oh, wow.
[00:34:41]  So they're more exceptional than others.
[00:34:43]  There's like a whole diatribe in here about the name Rush and how it's not a weird name.
[00:34:49]  So he comes in and he like writes his name on the school board or on the chalkboard before I even, and then like a girl raises her hand after he writes his name on the chalkboard.
[00:34:57]  Before I had a chance to even call on her, she asked, your first name is Rush?
[00:35:01]  That's weird.
[00:35:02]  And why are you dressed like that? She said.
[00:35:04]  I could tell that this student was all business.
[00:35:06]  If there were a pecking order in this class, she would probably be at the top of the food chain.
[00:35:10]  I looked at my seating chart and replied, thank you, Elizabeth.
[00:35:13]  Do you go by Liz?
[00:35:14]  She rolled her eyes and nearly grunted.
[00:35:16]  No, unlike some people, I have a real name.
[00:35:18]  It's Elizabeth.
[00:35:19]  It's a lovely name, if you like four syllables, I said, winking.
[00:35:22]  If you must know, my real name is Rusty, but when I was your age, my favorite class was history.
[00:35:27]  In fact, I found myself rushing to history class every day I had it.
[00:35:30]  Rushed from my home, rushed down the street, and rushed through the school until it was sitting there.
[00:35:34]  Boy, he told her.
[00:35:35]  Eventually, my teacher started calling me Rush and it stuck.
[00:35:41]  Is this a true story from his actual rush?
[00:35:45]  His given name is Rush.
[00:35:46]  Yes, that's his actual given name.
[00:35:48]  Rush Hudson Limbaugh.
[00:35:50]  Yes.
[00:35:50]  That's his full name.
[00:35:51]  His middle name's Hudson.
[00:35:53]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:54]  I love that that's the third.
[00:35:57]  Rush Hudson Limbaugh III.
[00:35:59]  Yes.
[00:36:00]  Rusty.
[00:36:01]  Fuck you, Rush.
[00:36:02]  Yeah, it's fucking unbelievable.
[00:36:04]  Like, first off, absolutely not.
[00:36:07]  That's nobody's backstory.
[00:36:11]  Boy, you guys were so horrified when you were in the house.
[00:36:13]  I would say, well, Katie, I thought you were trying to slander the number one achievement in American artistic history, the film Hudson Hawk, which I will not stand for.
[00:36:25]  No, no, no, no.
[00:36:26]  Bruce Willis's greatest, nay, only contribution to civilization, the film Hudson Hawk.
[00:36:35]  I'm going to let it slide, but watch Hudson Hawk, people.
[00:36:41]  Great film.
[00:36:42]  So, yeah, he then explains why he's dressed.
[00:36:44]  Apparently, he's dressed obviously the way he's dressed in the gym jab clip art on the cover as like a colonial dude.
[00:36:51]  So he explains that.
[00:36:54]  Can you anyone guess who I'm dressed as?
[00:36:56]  Students raise their hands.
[00:36:57]  They guess George Washington.
[00:36:59]  Good guess, but no.
[00:37:00]  However, I am dressed as someone who fought in the same Revolutionary War as George Washington, and they assuredly knew each other.
[00:37:05]  Are you Thomas Jefferson? asked another student.
[00:37:07]  Sure.
[00:37:07]  No.
[00:37:08]  However, another good guess.
[00:37:09]  Yada, yada, yada.
[00:37:12]  He's probably not.
[00:37:13]  They keep saying more white men because they can't tell the difference.
[00:37:16]  Yes.
[00:37:17]  Yes.
[00:37:17]  It's fucking Paul Revere.
[00:37:20]  So he has fucking interactions with these school children, which, boy, we just don't need to talk about that.
[00:37:28]  Okay, then he brings his horse into class, Liberty.
[00:37:33]  Yeah.
[00:37:34]  I get the horse.
[00:37:35]  I don't think we're ever going to explain how he got the horse.
[00:37:38]  I'm sure at some point we're going to learn where the horse came from.
[00:37:42]  But yeah, he explained.
[00:37:43]  But it'll be like we'll learn it through like somebody asking where'd you get the horse and he'll explain it.
[00:37:48]  And that'll be mad.
[00:37:50]  All the girls are all the kids.
[00:37:51]  You can bring a horse to school?
[00:37:53]  Except for a girl named Freedom.
[00:37:54]  Well, I did once go to a school where kids rode their horses to school.
[00:37:59]  But that was.
[00:38:00]  It was for a bit.
[00:38:02]  Yeah, it was for a bit.
[00:38:03]  Come on.
[00:38:04]  Come on.
[00:38:06]  Okay, so let's move past this school section because, boy, we just don't need this.
[00:38:12]  This goes on for pages.
[00:38:13]  They're just talking.
[00:38:15]  Get to the history.
[00:38:16]  What the heck?
[00:38:17]  We don't need any of this.
[00:38:21]  So, Jesus God.
[00:38:23]  Okay.
[00:38:23]  Finally, finally, he takes a bunch of kids with him into the past.
[00:38:30]  Yeah, they go rush, rush, rushing to history.
[00:38:33]  Parents sign up.
[00:38:35]  I don't know.
[00:38:37]  I don't think about that.
[00:38:38]  I think all, I think, actually, I assume all children and their parents consent to go back in time if the teacher can time track.
[00:38:44]  If asked.
[00:38:45]  Yeah, that actually does seem fair.
[00:38:48]  The tripod.
[00:38:50]  Tragic school bus, right?
[00:38:52]  Oh, buddy.
[00:38:52]  Guys.
[00:38:54]  No.
[00:38:55]  Thank God we're cutting that.
[00:38:57]  No, we're just canceling it for that one.
[00:39:00]  The trip through the time portal was like jumping through a hoop instantaneously.
[00:39:04]  We landed in Holland.
[00:39:05]  I quickly surveyed the geography and discovered we were in a field not far from the Dutch port of Delfshaven.
[00:39:10]  Thankfully, we were alone.
[00:39:12]  So he doesn't get to decide where he's going.
[00:39:14]  He just hops on the horse and then like pops over to somewhere sometime.
[00:39:19]  Yeah, he's in fucking, I guess, Holland because that's where they set off from.
[00:39:23]  He's looking for pilgrim, well, Puritans.
[00:39:26]  Right.
[00:39:28]  Right.
[00:39:29]  Okay.
[00:39:29]  Oh, good.
[00:39:30]  And now he's whitewashing the Puritans.
[00:39:31]  This is great.
[00:39:32]  The woman turned in my direction, but didn't stop walking.
[00:39:35]  She stared at me as if I were some strange animal at a zoo.
[00:39:37]  She quickly replied: If you're looking for Puritans, you've found us.
[00:39:40]  These, the Puritans?
[00:39:41]  I had always imagined the Pilgrims in clothing that was black, white, and gray.
[00:39:45]  However, these people wore clothing that was dyed every color of the rainbow: a yellow shirt, blue breeches, green stockings, a red dress, a purple knitted stocking cap.
[00:39:52]  I was sorely mistaken to think that I knew what the pilgrims wore every day.

=== Wooden Dutch Shoe Mystery (02:54) ===

[00:39:56]  It was time to get my class involved.
[00:39:57]  Class, I said, these are the real pilgrims.
[00:40:00]  I pointed the lens of my smartphone towards the large group that had gathered.
[00:40:03]  I guess they're watching it through his phone or some shit.
[00:40:06]  I'm sorry.
[00:40:07]  He is not taking into account how irresponsible this is to just all of these children in a different time.
[00:40:17]  I mean, you could drastically change the events of history.
[00:40:20]  I mean, that would be the best case scenario, right?
[00:40:22]  If they somehow got these people killed and so they didn't colonize the North.
[00:40:26]  Yeah.
[00:40:26]  Yeah, give them a few more years to get ready.
[00:40:30]  All right, so we're learning about the fucking pilgrims.
[00:40:32]  And boy, I just do not want to.
[00:40:34]  No, no.
[00:40:35]  I absolutely do not want to.
[00:40:37]  Because I know there's some weird socialism shaming coming in the part about the actual colony that they make.
[00:40:46]  And yeah, so let's skip forward to that a bit here.
[00:40:50]  Boy, this has been like 10 pages of him talking about how cool the Puritans are because they separated from the Church of England and how they really just loved liberty as opposed to being weird religious extremists who wanted to be able to oppress people without having to live under anyone else's rules.
[00:41:09]  Anyway, I guess it makes sense that he would want to whitewash them for that, right?
[00:41:15]  Yeah.
[00:41:16]  So he travels back into the present, into the classroom, to talk to the kids about what they've learned.
[00:41:21]  And then Principal Sherman walks in.
[00:41:24]  Yeah, and it's a whole thing.
[00:41:30]  The principal demands an explanation because he's heard some weird shit.
[00:41:34]  An explanation, I stalled.
[00:41:35]  Well, yes, of course.
[00:41:36]  I realized that Principal Sherman would eventually find a yellow wooden shoe outside the classroom window.
[00:41:41]  So I began.
[00:41:41]  We were discussing the pilgrims and how they left England to escape religious persecution and settled in Holland along their journey to the new world.
[00:41:47]  I brought a wooden Dutch shoe from my trip to the Netherlands as a bit of show and tell.
[00:41:51]  And Principal Sherman interrupted me and said, pointing, You mean like the one that's broken and splintered on the floor here?
[00:41:56]  I had forgotten about that one.
[00:41:57]  Yes, and apparently wooden shoes are not very sturdy.
[00:42:00]  Principal Sherman walked over to the window and saw the second shoe lying on the grass near a big oak tree.
[00:42:04]  And yet that one looks just fine.
[00:42:06]  I joined him at the window and said, Um, okay, so this is all very boring.
[00:42:10]  Boring, it's very boring.
[00:42:11]  It's very boring and bad.
[00:42:13]  Uh, okay, wow, it's it's taking fireworks faster.
[00:42:20]  There is stuff, there are surprisingly more random classroom bullshit and discussion of Puritans in here than there is actual narrative action going on.
[00:42:30]  Why?
[00:42:32]  Yeah, I was told this was an adventure series.
[00:42:34]  Yeah, there's the adventure.
[00:42:37]  Oh, okay, but it looks like we're going to get some explanation here.
[00:42:39]  So he has this kid, Tommy, who's like the little shit in the class, starts like bagging on him for his horse.
[00:42:48]  And yeah, okay.

=== Boring Time Machine Talk (06:08) ===

[00:42:50]  So, do um, okay, here's him explaining.
[00:42:54]  This is the explanation for how the horse can travel through time.
[00:42:57]  It appears that lightning may have struck liberty and created a supernatural phenomenon or a time portal that thrust him forward in time to our day.
[00:43:04]  The electrical properties that charge through his body and the vortex that sent him to the future changed him physically and mentally.
[00:43:10]  He can not only talk and disappear, but he's also, I paused, trying to formulate the right words.
[00:43:15]  Freedom finished my sentence and said, A time machine.
[00:43:18]  What?
[00:43:18]  Tommy said, confused.
[00:43:20]  Did I miss something?
[00:43:20]  Did you just say time machine?
[00:43:22]  He's more like a time portal, I said to clarify.
[00:43:24]  He has the ability to momentarily open a time door anywhere in history.
[00:43:28]  Well, more specifically, anything that touches American history.
[00:43:32]  Tommy started laughing.
[00:43:33]  Okay, this is a joke.
[00:43:34]  I'm on to you.
[00:43:35]  This is some reality TV show called The Biggest Bozo Who Believes In.
[00:43:40]  Right?
[00:43:40]  Where are the cameras?
[00:43:41]  Tommy started looking around the room.
[00:43:43]  He then looked back at Freedom and back at me.
[00:43:45]  Both of us were dead serious.
[00:43:47]  You believe this guy? Tommy asked Freedom, sticking his thumb out at me.
[00:43:50]  Wait a second.
[00:43:51]  Wait, wait, wait.
[00:43:52]  What?
[00:43:53]  I thought the horse was named Liberty.
[00:43:54]  The horse is Liberty.
[00:43:55]  Freedom is the girl in the class who likes Rush the Lord.
[00:43:58]  Oh my God.
[00:43:59]  I'm so good fucking confused.
[00:44:00]  Come on.
[00:44:01]  Oh, you didn't catch that, Cody?
[00:44:03]  You didn't catch that?
[00:44:04]  None of us.
[00:44:04]  I thought that.
[00:44:05]  None of the people.
[00:44:06]  But maybe I skipped ahead a little much, but yes, Freedom is the girl who's immediately on board for all of his weird-ass bullshit.
[00:44:13]  That's great.
[00:44:14]  Fuck, I mean, Cody, it's called subtext.
[00:44:18]  It's called subtext, okay?
[00:44:21]  Cody, I know that you don't, you aren't, you aren't, you aren't an author like me, so you don't understand the complexities of literature.
[00:44:30]  But when you want to say that a character is good, you name her Liberty, and then people, or freedom, I forget which, but either way, people know they're a good guy.
[00:44:43]  I see.
[00:44:43]  Do you see?
[00:44:44]  It's subliminal.
[00:44:45]  It's subliminal.
[00:44:46]  Exactly.
[00:44:47]  Exactly.
[00:44:49]  It's like, it's like, I don't know.
[00:44:51]  If I say it's like Nietzsche, enough people probably haven't read Nietzsche that they'll just assume that I'm not lying.
[00:44:57]  It's like Nietzsche.
[00:44:58]  Yeah.
[00:44:59]  No, it's like you fucking name your character Shepard or whatever.
[00:45:03]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:45:04]  Exactly.
[00:45:05]  You name your character Shepard because he's hot and he fucks like a stallion.
[00:45:10]  That's why you would do that as an author.
[00:45:12]  Because he's very wooly.
[00:45:14]  So, you know, it's probably time for another ad break.
[00:45:18]  Let's just do that.
[00:45:20]  Get the fuck out of here, Rush.
[00:45:27]  There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
[00:45:31]  Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
[00:45:35]  You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
[00:45:37]  And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
[00:45:41]  We always say, trust your girlfriends.
[00:45:45]  I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends...
[00:45:49]  Oh my God, this is the same man.
[00:45:51]  A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
[00:45:55]  I felt like I got hit by a truck.
[00:45:57]  I thought, how could this happen to me?
[00:45:59]  The cops didn't seem to care.
[00:46:01]  So they take matters into their own hands.
[00:46:04]  I said, oh, hell no.
[00:46:06]  I vowed I will be his last target.
[00:46:08]  He's going to get what he deserves.
[00:46:13]  Listen to the girlfriends.
[00:46:14]  Trust me, babe.
[00:46:15]  On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:46:25]  What's up, everyone?
[00:46:26]  I'm Ego Modern.
[00:46:27]  My next guest, you know, from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network.
[00:46:35]  It's Will Farrell.
[00:46:38]  My dad gave me the best advice ever.
[00:46:41]  I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
[00:46:46]  I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
[00:46:49]  I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent.
[00:46:53]  He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
[00:46:58]  Yeah.
[00:46:58]  He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
[00:47:01]  And he's like, just give it a shot.
[00:47:03]  He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
[00:47:11]  If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
[00:47:14]  It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there.
[00:47:21]  Yeah, it would not be.
[00:47:23]  Right, it wouldn't be that.
[00:47:24]  There's a lot of luck.
[00:47:26]  Listen to Thanks Stat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:47:34]  In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckard found himself at the center of a paternity scandal.
[00:47:40]  The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.
[00:47:46]  This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth.
[00:47:49]  You doctored this particular test twice, Miss Owens, correct?
[00:47:52]  I doctored the test once.
[00:47:54]  It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case.
[00:47:57]  I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for.
[00:48:01]  Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant.
[00:48:04]  They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
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[00:48:43]  10-10 shots fired in the City Hall building.
[00:48:46]  A silver .40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene.
[00:48:50]  From iHeart Podcasts and Best Case Studios, this is Rorschach, murder at City Hall.
[00:48:57]  How could this have happened in City Hall?

=== Political Baseball Cap Twist (15:48) ===

[00:48:58]  Somebody tell me that.
[00:48:59]  Jeffrey Hood did.
[00:49:00]  I love you.
[00:49:01]  July 2003.
[00:49:03]  Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest.
[00:49:07]  Both men are carrying concealed weapons.
[00:49:10]  And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.
[00:49:19]  Everybody in the chamber's docks.
[00:49:22]  A shocking public murder.
[00:49:23]  I screamed, get down, get down.
[00:49:25]  Those are shots.
[00:49:26]  Those are shots.
[00:49:27]  Get down.
[00:49:27]  A charismatic politician.
[00:49:29]  You know, he just bent the rules all the time, man.
[00:49:31]  I still have a weapon.
[00:49:33]  And I could shoot you.
[00:49:36]  And an outsider with a secret.
[00:49:38]  He alleged he was a victim of flat down.
[00:49:41]  That may or may not have been political.
[00:49:43]  That may have been about sex.
[00:49:45]  Listen to Rorschach, murder at City Hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:49:58]  Ah, we're back.
[00:50:00]  So Freedom tries to convince Tommy that Rush isn't lying about his time travel.
[00:50:06]  Tommy's the hero of this story.
[00:50:08]  Also, like, Rush, just say magic.
[00:50:11]  Oh, boy, there's something else going on here.
[00:50:13]  Yeah, I love that he's now like, he is in the text of his book, sweatily defending the time travel mechanism that he's written into it.
[00:50:24]  Also, Rush, just have this substitute teacher be an inventor who made like he can, he can also have a talking horse sidekick.
[00:50:32]  Yes.
[00:50:32]  Why is the horse have to be the time machine?
[00:50:35]  That's just sweaty and stupid.
[00:50:37]  And it causes all of these questions that could be answered by saying, I built a time machine.
[00:50:43]  And I made my horse smart.
[00:50:44]  Because you know what?
[00:50:45]  If you establish that this character is an inventor who's built a time machine, I'll believe that he has a talking horse that he scienced too.
[00:50:52]  It's fine.
[00:50:53]  It's fine.
[00:50:54]  That is not going to be my problem with your work if you do it by the way.
[00:50:57]  That wouldn't be complicated in that.
[00:50:59]  He was struck by lightning.
[00:51:01]  It wouldn't be.
[00:51:02]  And so he can only travel through American history.
[00:51:07]  But he also just traveled to Holland.
[00:51:09]  So again, does it just mean that like, where is the line go there, right?
[00:51:14]  Because the people who were in Holland, some of them later went to the Northeast, but none of them ever lived in the United States, but it was like American pre.
[00:51:22]  But does that mean that like you could go back to ancient Rome because the Founding Fathers based a lot of our republic on the way the Romans did things?
[00:51:29]  Like, you go back to Africa.
[00:51:32]  Right.
[00:51:33]  You know?
[00:51:34]  Yeah, could you travel back to when like the Portuguese first started exploring slaves from Africa?
[00:51:39]  Because that's as much a part of the history of this country as the landing on Plymouth.
[00:51:44]  Not explained by Rush Limbaugh.
[00:51:46]  But boy, can he go to the birthplace of Christopher Columbus and just like hang out there?
[00:51:51]  Yeah, is he going to like Genoa?
[00:51:53]  Yeah.
[00:51:54]  This is all part of American history.
[00:51:56]  Is he, for example, going back further than the 1600s to like, you know, indigenous, like the Cahokia, right?
[00:52:04]  In like modern day, like Missouri, Illinois area.
[00:52:06]  And like talking.
[00:52:08]  No, I'm guessing he's not.
[00:52:09]  I mean, you probably like, can you go to like fucking Greece because you talk about democracy?
[00:52:13]  Right.
[00:52:14]  Yeah.
[00:52:14]  Are you going to China because they invented gunpowder and that played a crucial role in the colonization of North America?
[00:52:24]  None of this will be answered.
[00:52:25]  Well, that's all decided by the horse.
[00:52:28]  So Tommy and Freedom and Rush continue their argument.
[00:52:31]  Hey, I might be crazy, but I'm not that crazy, okay? Tommy said.
[00:52:34]  He got up from his desk and started pacing the floor.
[00:52:36]  He took off his baseball cap and combed his fingers through his blonde hair.
[00:52:40]  He sighed.
[00:52:41]  I have to think about this for a minute.
[00:52:43]  We probably shouldn't show them the other thing I can do, should we?
[00:52:45]  I mean, he seems a little freaked out right now, Liberty said.
[00:52:48]  No, I said firmly.
[00:52:50]  I took a deep breath.
[00:52:51]  I need to finish our story.
[00:52:52]  I believe the lightning created the time portal that brought Liberty to the modern day.
[00:52:57]  Oh, my God.
[00:52:59]  Tommy put his baseball cap.
[00:53:04]  This is like, again, just say magic and we're done.
[00:53:07]  Just say magic and we're good.
[00:53:08]  Magic, science, it's fine.
[00:53:10]  But also, like, very fancy academy, that kid cannot wear a baseball cap inside.
[00:53:17]  No, no, he's wearing some insufferable uniform.
[00:53:20]  Yes.
[00:53:21]  And again, probably not horses allowed inside either, but we'll let it slide.
[00:53:25]  Also, like, it's a talking horse.
[00:53:27]  Yeah, it is a talking motherfucker.
[00:53:30]  Mr. Ed.
[00:53:31]  That's the one that talked, right?
[00:53:33]  Yes, it is.
[00:53:34]  Okay.
[00:53:35]  It's one of the two famous horses that can talk.
[00:53:37]  And the other is one of the.
[00:53:39]  No, the other one is Liberty for Limbaugh's adventure series.
[00:53:45]  How foolish of me to forget.
[00:53:47]  Yes, he's a good one.
[00:53:48]  He keeps.
[00:53:49]  This is now like two pages of arguing with this child about the lightning bolt that did his horse.
[00:53:54]  It's a little candle not arguing, I think.
[00:53:56]  It's amazing.
[00:53:56]  It's a pull shit you can't explain in a room full of inquisitive children.
[00:54:01]  Tommy put his baseball cap back on and said, okay, okay, maybe it is possible.
[00:54:06]  I mean, I don't think the lightning hit him directly.
[00:54:08]  Technically, a direct hit would have killed him.
[00:54:10]  But I guess there's a possibility that several bolts could have simultaneously.
[00:54:15]  How?
[00:54:15]  Where is that possibility?
[00:54:16]  Causing an electrostatic prism.
[00:54:18]  And maybe the positive and negative charge carriers combined with the acoustic shockwaves create him some kind of time holds at Liberty.
[00:54:26]  What is this conversation they're having?
[00:54:28]  What is this?
[00:54:30]  This is a history adventure book.
[00:54:32]  This isn't even like...
[00:54:34]  Because it's not even like he figured it out and he's got an explanation for it.
[00:54:39]  It's just like a character guessing.
[00:54:43]  Yeah.
[00:54:44]  It's not even ways.
[00:54:45]  Wow, and we're just, we're now explaining how like Liberty, when they came from the future, met Rush and like how shocking the world was.
[00:54:53]  This is my point.
[00:54:53]  Why would you start the fucking book in the past with his magic horse and then do this like whole sequence, like show him meeting the horse?
[00:55:03]  Yeah.
[00:55:06]  We're not going to do that.
[00:55:09]  Yeah, we're absolutely not going to do that.
[00:55:12]  We have an illustration on this next page.
[00:55:15]  Again, this is all just Liberty explaining how they met.
[00:55:18]  Boy, there doesn't seem to be any explanation for this at all.
[00:55:21]  There's just a picture of him holding a modern-day iced tea can with an American flag that says two if by tea underneath it.
[00:55:30]  I don't know why that was put in here.
[00:55:32]  Anyway, what's happening on the page opposite from it?
[00:55:35]  Like, he's talking, Liberty.
[00:55:37]  He and Liberty are talking about fucking how he met his fucking horse, right?
[00:55:43]  How his horse came through time.
[00:55:44]  What page are we on right now in the book?
[00:55:46]  45.
[00:55:47]  My God.
[00:55:48]  My God, if I bought this, you bought this book.
[00:55:51]  So we teach the children something, presumably.
[00:55:53]  And so far, it's just been nonsense about that.
[00:55:56]  So far, we have learned that the Puritans were just a bunch of nice people who wanted religious freedom as opposed to religious people.
[00:56:06]  And we have spent pages talking about how lightning strikes could conceivably give a horse the ability to time travel.
[00:56:16]  That is the primary fact dump we've gotten so far.
[00:56:20]  Really lax dress code at this academy.
[00:56:23]  Yeah, it's now they're talking about when football happened because Tommy's a football player, even though he knows a lot about lightning.
[00:56:30]  That's a boy, this is just ridiculous.
[00:56:33]  We don't need this.
[00:56:35]  No.
[00:56:36]  When does the history start?
[00:56:39]  That's a great question.
[00:56:40]  Oh, good.
[00:56:40]  So Tommy gets on the horse.
[00:56:42]  Now we've got a picture of Tommy riding back in time on the horse.
[00:56:45]  So I'm going to guess that's what happens in the pages I've skipped.
[00:56:48]  He's sitting on the back of the house.
[00:56:50]  He's bigger and bitter in relation to the other.
[00:56:54]  Yeah, so they are trying to land undetected on the Mayflower.
[00:56:57]  The time portal opened just as it did moments earlier.
[00:56:59]  Wait, what did he do with all the other kids?
[00:57:01]  I think he leaves them.
[00:57:02]  Unattended.
[00:57:03]  Look, Katie, you're going to have some open questions about this because I am not going through every fucking page of this stupid book.
[00:57:10]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:57:10]  No, it makes sense.
[00:57:12]  Okay.
[00:57:13]  The picture doesn't explain, therefore I cannot tell you.
[00:57:16]  Yeah, we're not going to be hitting every plot point here.
[00:57:20]  The time portal opened just as it did moments earlier, as clearly as possible.
[00:57:24]  I pronounced each word.
[00:57:25]  September 6th, 1620, Plymouth, England, the launching of the Mayflower.
[00:57:29]  I had found that giving the exact date, location, and name of the historical event helped Liberty get us to where we needed.
[00:57:35]  Of course.
[00:57:35]  Like, you don't need to explain that.
[00:57:37]  I understand why you would do that in a time.
[00:57:40]  Anyway, the sensation of jumping through time was always the same.
[00:57:43]  The rush of air sent goosebumps over my body.
[00:57:45]  The hair on my arm stood on end.
[00:57:46]  And for a second, it feels like it does when you're swinging backwards on a Seattle.
[00:57:50]  Yada yada.
[00:57:52]  Okay, so there's like an orgasm.
[00:57:55]  It does sound like he's coming.
[00:57:58]  He should never use the word rush unless you're referring to your character.
[00:58:02]  Yeah.
[00:58:03]  So they have Liberty go into stealth mode and pretend not to be a talking horse so they can sneak on the Mayflower, which is easy because some of the pilgrims had second thoughts.
[00:58:14]  One of the pilgrims, he's William Bradford, who he met in Holland, remembers him and says, Rush Revere, it does my heart good to see you again.
[00:58:22]  And is this the person you were waiting for in Holland?
[00:58:24]  He smiled affectionately while straightening Tommy's brown leather hat.
[00:58:27]  Yes, this is Tommy, I said as I put my arm around Tommy's shoulder.
[00:58:30]  His parents are gone, so I'll be caring for him on this voyage.
[00:58:34]  It's a pleasure to meet you, Tommy, Bradford said as he reached out his hand to Tommy, who shook it.
[00:58:38]  William turned back to me and said, Let's talk some more after the ship set sail.
[00:58:42]  The captain is very eager to leave.
[00:58:45]  Okay.
[00:58:45]  Boring.
[00:58:47]  Boring.
[00:58:48]  No, you don't have an answer.
[00:58:49]  We get some public domain.
[00:58:51]  We get like four pages of public domain photos of the fucking Mayflower, like drawings of it and shit.
[00:58:57]  What was your question about Tommy?
[00:58:59]  I mean, we're not going to have an answer for it, but is Tommy just wearing 2013?
[00:59:04]  No, no, no.
[00:59:04]  He's dressed.
[00:59:07]  They found clothes for him.
[00:59:07]  I'm going to replace his baseball hat.
[00:59:10]  I am going to fill in a blank here and say Rush Revere traveled forward in time, found a pilgrim child separated from his family, cut his throat with a straight razor and took the clothing from him.
[00:59:20]  Makes sense.
[00:59:20]  Yeah, it's a little bit of a this is also an assassin's creed.
[00:59:24]  Uh there's like half of the chapters are like really boring, but about aliens and stuff.
[00:59:35]  Just Rush Limbaugh in his hoodie running around.
[00:59:37]  Speaking of, by the way, speaking of fiction stories that did not need to explain things as much as they wound up doing, Assassin's Creed made the same mistake as the Rush Revere novels.
[00:59:48]  Nobody needed any of that.
[00:59:49]  We don't need that section at all.
[00:59:51]  People just want to murder folks in different time periods.
[00:59:53]  You don't need to do a whole thing.
[00:59:55]  Like, that's not necessary.
[00:59:56]  I wasn't confused.
[00:59:57]  I didn't have questions.
[01:00:00]  It's like if the Grand Theft Auto series added a very sweaty, like whole fucking series of missions about how you're like a time-traveling, super-powered person, and that's why you never die in the car accidents.
[01:00:12]  It's like, we don't need that.
[01:00:14]  None of that's necessary.
[01:00:15]  That's not why I'm here.
[01:00:17]  Yeah.
[01:00:17]  Not here for the lore.
[01:00:19]  Sorry.
[01:00:19]  Yeah, not here for the lore.
[01:00:22]  Okay.
[01:00:23]  So Puritans, boy, just a lot more Puritans traveling on a boat.
[01:00:29]  With most of this is not history.
[01:00:32]  It appears to be like them encountering random people.
[01:00:35]  And like, there's like three pages where Tommy meets a pilgrim kid who has a puppy and they talk about puppies.
[01:00:42]  They talk about how uncomfortable boats are, which I don't.
[01:00:46]  Yeah, it's great.
[01:00:49]  This is a shit book, guys.
[01:00:50]  This is a real shit.
[01:00:51]  This is really bad.
[01:00:53]  Like, not like as a history book and as an adventure book.
[01:00:56]  Yeah.
[01:00:57]  Yeah.
[01:00:57]  Yes.
[01:00:58]  And like, just like as it like a children's book.
[01:01:00]  I mean, like, does he ever...
[01:01:01]  What is he?
[01:01:02]  What am I supposed to learn from this?
[01:01:04]  Like, what am I supposed to be being taught?
[01:01:06]  You're not supposed to learn anything from this.
[01:01:08]  And look, I'm not going to keep digging through this, but there is one thing I wanted to hit that I read when I was reading reviews of this.
[01:01:16]  No, it's kind of about some of the weird politics.
[01:01:20]  And so I think we'll close on that.
[01:01:22]  But I would be doing a disservice if I didn't like bring it up.
[01:01:30]  Yeah.
[01:01:31]  Here we go.
[01:01:32]  Oh boy.
[01:01:35]  This is a different review than the one I've read, but I have to read it.
[01:01:37]  This is from a review that some like homeschooling mom wrote, I think.
[01:01:41]  Reading the series has given us a nice break from traditional schooling.
[01:01:44]  My kids automatically preferred it over textbooks or looking at encyclopedias.
[01:01:48]  They were drawn into the story of Rush Revere at the middle school he teaches and his students.
[01:01:52]  They liked that there was time travel involved.
[01:01:55]  Yeah.
[01:01:56]  Although she says she had a hard time getting into the series.
[01:01:59]  When it came to the history in the books, the narrative did tend to get a bit bookish.
[01:02:03]  On one hand, we got to know many of the real characters that shaped America, yada, yada.
[01:02:08]  On the other hand, the series, the characters would sometimes seem to go on a rant, spending a good time amount of time explaining historical events and facts a bit unnaturally through chunks of dialogue.
[01:02:16]  That's because all of the bits where he's explaining history read like fucking like Wikipedia pages that were just like copied and so she doesn't like the part where you're teaching your children something.
[01:02:28]  Well, yeah, I mean, I think because it's bad writing.
[01:02:30]  Like, I'll give her that.
[01:02:31]  It's not poorly.
[01:02:32]  It is bad.
[01:02:33]  Yeah.
[01:02:34]  It sounds like she wasn't interested in like learning that much.
[01:02:38]  Yeah.
[01:02:39]  And it's poorly written.
[01:02:40]  Yeah.
[01:02:40]  And it's, it's a, it's bad.
[01:02:42]  It's a bad book series.
[01:02:45]  But yeah, so like one of the there there's a because it's Rush Limbaugh, there's like a weird bit of anti-collectivist shit in here.
[01:02:54]  I'm going to read from that Chicago Tribune article anyway.
[01:02:57]  Or again.
[01:02:57]  Limbaugh, like other conservatives, seizes upon the Pilgrim story as an example of the terrible things that can happen when people pool their resources in a collectivist manner.
[01:03:06]  The author seems particularly offended by the idea of a common house at Plymouth.
[01:03:10]  To him, the Pilgrims suffered from the evils of communism and survived only by belatedly injecting individualism and free enterprise into their settlement.
[01:03:19]  And like the basis of this is that they used to have the pilgrims had common ownership of like food and fields and stuff when they came and eventually like decided to give families their own land and that caused people to produce more corn or something.
[01:03:33]  This is all bits of history that people take out and politicize.
[01:03:38]  But yeah, so he's he's he's there's definitely pieces of this that he takes out for his lesson.
[01:03:42]  But I think most of this is basically him writing this weird, sweaty sci-fi story about a middle school teacher and occasionally like cribbing and rewriting chunks of Wikipedia pages and like throwing them into the mouths of historical figures like William Bradford to info dump about the most boring aspects of history.
[01:04:01]  Anyway, that's the book.
[01:04:02]  It's this like sweaty mix of propaganda and horse lightning debates.
[01:04:08]  I mean, I'm thrilled that you invited us to participate in this.
[01:04:12]  Did you all learn something?
[01:04:13]  I learned liberty and freedom.
[01:04:15]  I learned about liberty and concepts, just the horse and the students.
[01:04:18]  The people, yeah, the characters.
[01:04:21]  Yeah.
[01:04:22]  Tommy rules.
[01:04:23]  I hope he doesn't change his mind and think he does, Cody.
[01:04:28]  Because Tommy is the one who provided us with our scientific explanation for the time travel that we absolutely needed.
[01:04:36]  Yeah, otherwise, where would we be right now?
[01:04:39]  Yeah, otherwise, where would we be right now?
[01:04:41]  Well, you know, where we are right now is at the point in the episode where y'all plug your motherfucking pluggables.

=== Josh Groban Plug Time (04:47) ===

[01:04:47]  Hell yeah.
[01:04:48]  We got stuff to plug.
[01:04:50]  Check out our YouTube channel, Some More News.
[01:04:54]  Do that.
[01:04:55]  We got a three-hour episode about Jordan Peterson.
[01:04:58]  You sure do.
[01:04:58]  You do have a three-hour episode about Jordan Peterson.
[01:05:02]  So check that out.
[01:05:03]  Go spend three hours with Jordan Peterson, just like those doctors in Russia who stayed many days with him while he was unconscious after going cold turkey on benzos and finding nothing.
[01:05:20]  He's great.
[01:05:21]  He doesn't.
[01:05:23]  If you look at a picture of him from 2017 and a picture of him from this year, it doesn't look like he's lost 70 pounds and also his mind.
[01:05:32]  And like, yeah, he doesn't look like he's aged 25 years in the last three.
[01:05:38]  It doesn't look at all like he picked up the wrong grail.
[01:05:41]  Yeah.
[01:05:43]  There's nothing unsettling about his tendency to periodically cry at random moments.
[01:05:48]  That's fine.
[01:05:49]  He's doing very stable.
[01:05:51]  We have other episodes too, to be clear.
[01:05:54]  But that is one of them.
[01:05:56]  Anyway, thanks.
[01:05:58]  Thanks out online.
[01:06:00]  Thanks, all.
[01:06:01]  I love you all like Rush Revere loves his horse.
[01:06:04]  Liberty.
[01:06:06]  Or freedom.
[01:06:07]  Whichever one isn't the girl.
[01:06:09]  His lightning horse.
[01:06:12]  Yeah.
[01:06:16]  I mean, there's no.
[01:06:17]  That merely opened up a portal with its lightning.
[01:06:19]  There's only one line I can responsibly end on, which I'm glad he's dead.
[01:06:25]  I continue to be glad he's dead.
[01:06:28]  If it weren't for everything else, he would deserve to die for writing this book.
[01:06:34]  And book two, and three, and four, and finally.
[01:06:36]  All of the like seven or five, however many.
[01:06:38]  There's too many of them.
[01:06:39]  God damn it, Robert.
[01:06:40]  Sometimes you really surprise me.
[01:06:43]  I don't know what you're going to say.
[01:06:44]  And it gives me just the most joy and genuine reaction.
[01:06:49]  Beautiful.
[01:06:51]  Look, I'm glad he's dead.
[01:06:53]  And I'll go ahead and say it.
[01:06:54]  You know, hunt down the illustrator from this book.
[01:06:56]  Figure out who did the jib jab and take him down.
[01:06:59]  Yeah, find Jib or Jab.
[01:07:01]  Not sure which one, but it's one of them.
[01:07:03]  Oh, God.
[01:07:04]  All right.
[01:07:05]  We're done.
[01:07:06]  We're done.
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