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[00:01:45] In 2023, bachelor star Clayton Eckard was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. [00:01:52] You doctored this particular test twice, Miss Owens, correct? [00:01:56] I doctored the test once. [00:01:58] It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. === Hitler Gets Messed Up By This Too (15:40) === [00:02:02] Two more men who'd been through the same thing. [00:02:05] Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini. [00:02:07] My mind was blown. [00:02:08] I'm Stephanie Young. [00:02:10] This is Love Trapped. [00:02:11] Laura, Scottsdale Police. [00:02:13] As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. [00:02:17] Listen to the Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:02:26] Still Hitler! [00:02:28] I'm Robert Evans. [00:02:30] Yeah, man. [00:02:32] This is part two of our episode. [00:02:34] Robert, why? [00:02:35] Because it's a Hitler episode. [00:02:37] You gotta give the red meat to the base. [00:02:40] It's like one of the only episodes where like this flies. [00:02:43] So like, if you want to do it one more time, it's fine. [00:02:46] I did it. [00:02:47] Two times is enough. [00:02:48] Two's enough. [00:02:48] Two's enjoying it. [00:02:49] My next Hitler episode. [00:02:50] I drink information. [00:02:51] I give Robert Mish and he's like, no. [00:02:53] Welcome back to Behind the Insurrections. [00:02:56] This is part three. [00:02:57] We had an episode, started off with an episode on the March on Rome. [00:03:00] Now we're doing a two-parter. [00:03:02] This is part two of our two-parter on Hitler's Munich beer hall putsch. [00:03:06] And then we will continue with other fascist attempts to seize power and talking about anti-fascism. [00:03:11] And we'll have a few more episodes to do. [00:03:13] So strap in, buckle up, eat some rice. [00:03:19] Rice is a good thing to eat. [00:03:20] Get some rice. [00:03:22] Eat some rice. [00:03:23] They get that brown rice that's got like the extra, you know, the vitamins and shit in it. [00:03:26] You know, yeah. [00:03:28] Don't skin your potatoes if you're eating potatoes. [00:03:29] That's where all the vitamins are. [00:03:31] And I enjoy potato skins. [00:03:32] I love potato skins. [00:03:34] Yeah. [00:03:34] No, who didn't love potatoes? [00:03:35] Actually, Hitler did love them. [00:03:36] He was a vegetable. [00:03:37] Actually, he did. [00:03:38] Yeah. [00:03:38] Huge, huge fan of vegetables. [00:03:40] Anyway, here's the story. [00:03:42] Yeah. [00:03:43] As soon as Von Lasso and Carr and Seisser are free, they immediately warn Berlin and call for military reinforcements from the rest of Bavaria and try to organize the rest of the police who aren't on Hitler's side into some sort of counter putsch. [00:03:57] Now, this would imagine them looking at each other right when they step out of the room like, I can't believe that worked. [00:04:02] We're not coming back, right? [00:04:03] Like, no, we're going to kill these people, right? [00:04:06] I can't believe he believed this. [00:04:07] Like, I can't believe, I can't believe that worked. [00:04:09] You know, I think I know why we lost the war. [00:04:12] That guy might not be very smart. [00:04:14] Sort of a dumbass, ain't he? [00:04:16] Yeah. [00:04:16] I can't believe he fell for that. [00:04:17] Yeah. [00:04:17] Yeah. [00:04:18] So, um, now, while this is happening, it's going to take time, right? [00:04:22] Shit doesn't turn on a dime. [00:04:24] You know, this is nighttime on the 8th when they get free and start warning everybody. [00:04:28] It's going to take hours for them to actually get a counter putsch force in place to fight the Nazis. [00:04:35] And so for the rest of the night of November 8th, the Nazis find themselves in total control of a German city for the first time in history. [00:04:43] And they very predictably did Nazi shit. [00:04:46] Yeah. [00:04:46] Yeah. [00:04:47] Members of Stass Trupp Hitler first swarmed the offices of the Münchner Post, a social democratic paper which they considered a Jewish paper. [00:04:55] They threatened the business manager at gunpoint in order to gain entry, and then they destroyed everything inside, throwing ink on the walls, cutting phone lines, smashing desks, destroying 380 panes of glass. [00:05:06] One Nazi later recalled, We forced open the doors of this place, ransacked the building, and flung all the printed stuff we could lay hands upon out into the street. [00:05:15] Now, during the assault, a police officer arrived. [00:05:19] Not to stop the Nazis, but to make sure they didn't damage the printing presses, because Hitler wanted those because he wanted to take them and give them to one of his newspapers. [00:05:26] Hey, hey, hey, hey, you rough. [00:05:28] Hey, hey, we're stealing that. [00:05:30] Don't break it. [00:05:32] I mean, we're all Nazis here. [00:05:33] Just don't break this. [00:05:34] That's valuable. [00:05:35] Oh, yeah. [00:05:36] Shoot those people. [00:05:37] Beat those people. [00:05:38] Fine. [00:05:38] Just don't hurt the printing presses. [00:05:39] Those cost money. [00:05:41] Yeah. [00:05:41] They're all scared like, oh, no, kill that dude. [00:05:44] I'm saying don't break the printer. [00:05:45] Yeah. [00:05:45] No, you're not under arrest. [00:05:46] Of course not. [00:05:48] What? [00:05:49] Yeah. [00:05:49] So they looted everything of value, including an estimated 6 trillion German marks, which is, you know, even at that point, a decent amount of money. [00:05:57] While they were raiding, they found the home address of the paper's editor, who's a Jewish man. [00:06:01] So they broke into his home next and they threatened his wife at gunpoint. [00:06:05] Now, he was already in hiding, but the Nazis did not leave right away. [00:06:09] And I'm going to quote again from the trial of Adolf Hitler. [00:06:12] This guy's name is Auer. [00:06:13] Auer's elder daughter, Sophie, asked the intruders to be as quiet as possible because her own two-year-old daughter was sleeping. [00:06:20] Maurice, ignoring the request, asked who the father was as he rummaged through their closets, laundry, and bedding. [00:06:25] He then smashed up a cupboard and turned over bookshelves, apparently looking for weapons as much as any clue for the whereabouts of the editor. [00:06:32] We are the masters and we govern now, Maurice boasted. [00:06:35] And that guy Maurice would wind up being Hitler's valet. [00:06:37] Like he was his driver and shit and bodyguard for a while. [00:06:40] Yeah. [00:06:41] Now, attacks continued through the night, led by different gangs of Nazis. [00:06:45] One small group was led by a bank clerk named Ernst Hubner, who got drunk at the start of the putsch and went off with friends in search of, quote, Jews and other enemies of the people to attack. [00:06:54] They broke into restaurants and hotels, demanding that Jews exit, beating people and kidnapping them. [00:07:00] At least 24 Jewish people were kidnapped and held hostage during this period. [00:07:04] Numerous others were beaten. [00:07:05] Businesses were ransacked. [00:07:07] Nazis, in other words, did Nazi shit. [00:07:09] Yeah. [00:07:10] Now, one of the things that's fun about this is in the wake of all this, stories will come out. [00:07:15] Like, police will claim that police who were members of the Nazi Party will claim that while this was happening, Hitler condemned the violence against Jewish people. [00:07:24] And the kernel of truth in that is that Hitler condemned the fact that some of his Nazis took off their swastika armbands while they were beating Jewish people. [00:07:32] So he didn't condemn the violence as much as he was like, why didn't you wear it? [00:07:35] It was a branding opportunity, guys. [00:07:37] Come on. [00:07:39] We got these armbands for a reason. [00:07:42] We paid good money for this shit. [00:07:44] What are you supposed to do? [00:07:48] So by the early morning, Hitler and his closest lackeys realized what Ludendorff had done and gradually came to understand that Berlin had been called and the army was coming for them. [00:07:58] This brought a wave of hopelessness to some. [00:08:00] The rash nature of the putsch, the fact that the timeline had been moved up two days at the last minute, the poor communication, and the fact that a lot of time had been spent giving long Hitler speeches to rooms full of drunk people and beating up random Jewish people in the street, instead of securing Munich, meant that the Nazis were about to face off against the Bavarian army without full control of the city. [00:08:20] They kind of got drunk and out of control and failed to do the things that were necessary to actually defend their territory. [00:08:27] Nazi. [00:08:27] Yeah, y'all didn't think that through, man. [00:08:29] Nazis. [00:08:29] Yeah, Nazi shit. [00:08:31] So Ludendorff was aghast when he realized that General von Lasso had not kept his word. [00:08:36] He is very brokenhearted by this. [00:08:38] He can't believe it. [00:08:40] He actually tries to call him and be like, come on, you promised, man. [00:08:44] Hey, man. [00:08:45] Hey, man. [00:08:46] What about that word? [00:08:48] You said you were going to come back, bro. [00:08:49] Yeah. [00:08:49] Come on, man. [00:08:52] You know, I got to tell you, man, I'm hurt. [00:08:54] I'm hurt. [00:08:55] I'm personally hurt, man. [00:08:56] I'm not angry. [00:08:57] I'm disappointed. [00:08:58] You know? [00:09:00] Bro, man, we're supposed to have some sort of code. [00:09:02] Come on, man. [00:09:04] So funny. [00:09:05] It's extremely funny. [00:09:07] So Ludendorff is horrified. [00:09:10] Hitler's just angry. [00:09:11] And he insists that the Nazis go on with what most people now realize is a hopeless putsch. [00:09:16] Hitler rants that he's prepared to fight for the cause and not a coward. [00:09:21] He also screams that by betraying him, Von Lasso and the other members of the triumvirate had forfeited their, quote, right to exist. [00:09:27] Oh, God. [00:09:28] Hardcore Nazi guy. [00:09:29] I mean, he's like, they'd just be saying, like, if it wasn't so violently dangerous, again, it's like the goofball thing where I'm just like, why are you so, why are you such a drama queen, bro? [00:09:40] Like, they revert their right to exist. [00:09:43] Like, hey, man. [00:09:44] Yeah. [00:09:44] And you know, you know, Hitler was wearing those corny ass cargo short shorts when he said it, too. [00:09:50] Right? [00:09:50] Oh, yeah. [00:09:51] Just like, hey, man. [00:09:53] He's just, I'm going to, I'm going to fling my tress coat off and I got my two crosses in there. [00:09:57] Like, bro, why the theatrics, man? [00:10:01] Like, look, bro, you. [00:10:04] This is unnecessary theatricals. [00:10:07] Anyway. [00:10:08] They cease the right to exist. [00:10:10] It's just Nazi shit. [00:10:12] Like, okay, man. [00:10:13] Just if you're going to shoot the place up, shoot the place up. [00:10:16] You ain't got to do all. [00:10:17] What is all this? [00:10:18] Anyway. [00:10:19] It's Nazi shit. [00:10:20] You know, so at this point in time, Hitler's organized forces in Munich number around 4,000, whereas the government in Munich only has about 2,600 troops and police combined. [00:10:31] And obviously, a lot of the police are Nazis. [00:10:33] Yes. [00:10:33] Now, reinforcements were on their way rapidly. [00:10:37] And so some of Hitler's men suggested retreating outside of the city with the forces they had to a small town where they had a strong base of support. [00:10:44] Ludendorff argued against that and instead insisted that they needed to carry out a public show of strength and march through Munich in numbers to rally the people of the city to their banner. [00:10:53] So like that's, you know, kind of Ludendorff City. [00:10:56] He's like, no, we can't retreat. [00:10:57] If we start marching, the people will join us. [00:10:59] We'll start the march on Berlin now. [00:11:01] And yeah, I'm going to quote from the trial of Adolf Hitler here. [00:11:04] Okay. [00:11:05] Perhaps a show of popular support would convince Carr, Lasso, and Seisser to abandon their intention to oppose them. [00:11:10] Surely, too, it was reasoned. [00:11:12] The army would not shoot at a procession led by such a popular national figure as General Ludendorff. [00:11:17] The heavens will fall before the troops fire on me, Ludendorff had told a colleague the previous day. [00:11:22] The soldiers would, it was hoped, flock to the banner of the swastika. [00:11:26] With a little luck, nationalist momentum might push Hitler to Berlin, just as it had propelled Mussolini to Rome. [00:11:33] It didn't. [00:11:35] It didn't. [00:11:36] Hitler gathered about 2,000 men at the Berger Brau, and he did, in fact, march them to the center of the city. [00:11:41] And for a little while, things went well. [00:11:43] 15 minutes into the march, the Nazis approached a group of 30 police officers with heavy machine guns, and the police tell the Nazis to stop. [00:11:50] And Hermann Gohing yells back at them, don't shoot your comrades. [00:11:54] And then, right after saying, don't shoot your comrades, like a trumpet blows, and the Nazis charge the police and take their guns and beat them unconscious with their own rifle butts, which is again some serious DC on the sixth energy right there. [00:12:07] Yeah, yeah. [00:12:08] We're your friends. [00:12:09] Wham! [00:12:10] It's beating a cop with a Blue Lives Matter flag. [00:12:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:12:14] Is that a thin blue line rag you just tied around that man's neck to choke him? [00:12:20] Yeah. [00:12:21] So, yeah, the police were taken captive. [00:12:25] The Nazis beat them and take their guns and send them back to the beer hall. [00:12:29] And Nazi propaganda would describe this assault on the police as police fraternization, right? [00:12:35] Like, it's us being friendly with the cops. [00:12:38] Yeah. [00:12:38] Now, this early success would not prove to be, you know, how the rest of things went. [00:12:45] Eventually, the crowd reached a barricade of 100 police officers, set up in a narrow street where their flanks were protected. [00:12:51] The Nazis advanced, and while it's not known who started shooting, a gun battle ensued. [00:12:57] Four police officers and 16 Nazis were killed. [00:13:00] Hitler was pulled to the ground by his bodyguard, and his shoulder was dislocated. [00:13:04] Goering was shot in the groin in the leg. [00:13:07] And this is actually why Herman Gohing in the pictures you see of him is like when he's in power is like heavily overweight. [00:13:14] It's why he becomes a morphine addict. [00:13:16] Like he's horribly injured and he gets addicted to painkillers. [00:13:19] Yeah, and then he like starts overeating when he can't be on painkillers in order to deal with like he's badly hurt by this. [00:13:26] Now, there's a couple of different stories about what happens with Ludendorff. [00:13:29] The most common one that like Ludendorff backs is that while all of this gunfire is going on, he marches like straight-backed, unharmed up to the police line and is taken into custody, just completely unfrightened of bullets. [00:13:42] Historians tend to suspect that like, no, he was a soldier like Hitler and everyone else who had military experience. [00:13:48] He dove for the ground when the shooting started. [00:13:50] That's what you do. [00:13:52] Like you don't stand up. [00:13:54] No one stands up. [00:13:55] You go to the fucking ground. [00:13:56] Like that's what. [00:13:57] Yeah. [00:13:58] Yeah. [00:13:58] And Hitler gets really messed up by this too. [00:14:01] Like I said, his shoulder is like really badly dislocated. [00:14:03] He doesn't get shot though. [00:14:05] And as soon as it's clear that his men, because the Nazis fire back and they kill some cops, as soon as it becomes clear that the Nazis are going to lose this giant gunfight, Hitler runs like fuck. [00:14:17] And Nazi propaganda would later claim that he sees like a 10-year-old boy who gets wounded by the police and he like picks him up and runs him to safety. [00:14:24] Oh my God. [00:14:26] This is a, for one thing, his arm didn't work. [00:14:29] Yeah, so that didn't happen. [00:14:30] Like it's a complete lie. [00:14:32] He ran because he didn't want to die. [00:14:34] He did what every literally anyone would do. [00:14:37] Yeah. [00:14:38] Yes. [00:14:38] Is you, oh, they're shooting. [00:14:39] I should not get shot. [00:14:41] Yeah. [00:14:41] Yeah. [00:14:41] I really ain't signed up for this. [00:14:43] I just wanted to. [00:14:44] Yeah. [00:14:44] No. [00:14:45] So he flees and he eventually takes a car to his friend's Putsy's Manor in rural Bavaria. [00:14:50] And of course, as we talk about in another episode, he tries to shoot himself there. [00:14:53] And Putzy's wife, Helena, who he has a crush on, like stops him, takes his gun and like throws it into a barrel of flour, which is, you know, maybe not the best call anyone ever made. [00:15:06] Yeah, it was one of those like short-term goodness, long-term. [00:15:10] Like in the moment, that was probably the right thing to do. [00:15:13] Yeah. [00:15:13] Yeah. [00:15:14] But it didn't end up well. [00:15:16] So yeah, Hitler eventually gets arrested and he's charged with, you know, trying to overthrow the government. [00:15:23] Now, the maximum sentence for a guilty verdict would have been life imprisonment. [00:15:27] And even if he wasn't put away for life, Hitler wasn't a German citizen. [00:15:31] And the law code at the time stipulated that foreigners convicted of high treason should be deported after serving their sentence. [00:15:38] Now, when he was brought to jail, Hitler was initially despondent, telling one police interviewer that he wanted to just shoot himself and get it over with. [00:15:45] But as the days and weeks went by, it became clear that most of the Bavarian government and many of its people were at best ambivalent about prosecuting Hitler. [00:15:53] He was extremely popular. [00:15:55] Nazi protesters took to the streets immediately after he was arrested, like shouting Heil Hitler and down with car. [00:16:01] Even a lot of the cops and soldiers who had put down the rebellion were broadly pro-Hitler. [00:16:06] They didn't want to see him punished. [00:16:08] Now, this was kind of compounded by the fact that the press, even the left-wing press, didn't take Hitler seriously because the putsch had failed. [00:16:17] The New York world ignored Hitler's role in it for the most part and declared it Ludendorff's putsch and depicted Hitler as a bumbling sidekick who'd gone off half-cost and dragged the general down with him. [00:16:27] A major Berlin paper described it as a Ludendorff putsch and compared it to a childish prank rather than a severe attempt to destroy democracy. [00:16:36] The New York Times probably had the best coverage. [00:16:39] They made a pointed note that Hitler was a skilled orator and very charismatic. [00:16:43] They laid out his skill at weaving the nation's resentments and racial bigotry into a cohesive political platform capable of getting people out into the street. [00:16:50] You know, the New York Times falls down on the job a lot later with Hitler. [00:16:54] But at this point, like they see, at least that writer sees the danger, you know? [00:16:59] Yeah. [00:17:00] Now, meanwhile, in France, a left-wing paper, the Republic François, or yeah, the French Republic, I guess is the name of the paper in French. [00:17:08] Yeah. [00:17:09] And it's like, this is a very like a socialist paper. [00:17:11] It warns its readers that the real victim of the putsch was not the Nazis, but the Bavarian government, who had brutally suppressed a popular uprising. [00:17:19] The trial of Adolf Hitler notes, it was instead a war between two different visions of dictatorship, and the most dangerous one, it believed, was not the one suppressed. [00:17:28] Several papers on the left agreed with this assessment. [00:17:31] Hitler in his defeat looked ludicrous and less menacing than the state authorities who had stopped him. [00:17:35] The illusion would only grow in the coming months. [00:17:38] So like, no, no, the state's way worse than Hitler, you know? === The Death of Democracy in Germany (03:14) === [00:17:43] He's just a silly dude. [00:17:45] Yeah. [00:17:48] Again, the lesson of history is that no one has ever learned a lesson from history. [00:17:52] Ever. [00:17:53] Not a single person. [00:17:54] Not a goddamn man. [00:17:57] God damn it. [00:17:58] And the idea, the part that's so chilling is like, you know, him sitting in prison almost the idea of him almost checking out and being like, maybe let's not do this. [00:18:13] And then the streets rise up for him. [00:18:15] And he's like, wait, what? [00:18:16] Wait, y'all like me? [00:18:18] All right, let's push on. [00:18:22] You know, like that, that's that part is so chilling where it was just like he almost stopped. [00:18:31] Yeah. [00:18:32] He could have been stopped. [00:18:33] And this is the story at this point is why he wasn't, you know? [00:18:37] Yeah. [00:18:38] Yeah. [00:18:38] Like, like why he didn't, why this wasn't the end of his political career. [00:18:44] Because the big question of the Munich beer hall putsch isn't why didn't it work? [00:18:47] Because it was a terrible idea from the start, right? [00:18:49] It was doomed from, it was badly planned in order to get it. [00:18:51] That wasn't ready. [00:18:52] Yeah. [00:18:52] Yeah. [00:18:53] It is instead, why didn't this putsch end Hitler's career? [00:18:57] And the answer to that question comes once again down to the justice system. [00:19:01] Law enforcement, the police in Munich in particular, were critical in allowing the Nazis to rise to power in the first place. [00:19:08] And in 1924, the year of Hitler's trial, the Justice Department would prove critical in keeping his ambitions alive or the justice system. [00:19:15] I don't know what they call it in Germany, whatever. [00:19:17] So Hitler goes to court. [00:19:19] And as a note, they take him to court in like a military academy. [00:19:24] And the academy is empty because all of the young soldiers being trained in the military academy were part of Hitler's putsch. [00:19:31] So like, yeah, like to show you. [00:19:34] Yeah. [00:19:35] Yeah. [00:19:35] Is this the trial? [00:19:37] So I read Death of Democracy. [00:19:39] Yes. [00:19:39] So is this the trial where the judge was essentially like, I don't give a shit, I like the guy. [00:19:46] This is one of those. [00:19:47] The Death of Democracy, I think, is talking about the trial with a different, like, there were a couple of trials like that. [00:19:53] It happened more than once. [00:19:55] Okay. [00:19:55] This is the first time. [00:19:56] Well, actually, not the first time. [00:19:58] No, no, no. [00:19:58] It's not the first time with this judge, as we're about to talk about. [00:20:02] Okay, go ahead. [00:20:03] So the presiding judge in Hitler's case was a guy named George Nighthart. [00:20:07] Now, Neithart had a reputation for opposing democracy and liberalism and just loving himself the far right. [00:20:13] He was a monarchist in his bones and he took his rage at Weimar Democracy out on left-wing, like, whatchamacallit, people like on the left who wound up in his docket. [00:20:23] Now, this was not an isolated phenomenon in Germany. [00:20:26] Most judges were very much far-right. [00:20:28] Statician Emil Gumbel analyzed murder trials in Weimar Germany from 1918 to 1922. [00:20:34] He found, quote, right-wing defendants received a not guilty verdict, no fewer than 326 of 354 cases. [00:20:41] There were no death penalties and only one life sentence. [00:20:44] Left-wing defendants, by contrast, were judged innocent only four of the 22 cases, receiving 10 death penalties and three life sentences. [00:20:52] The length of the sentence also confirmed the double standard. [00:20:54] 15 years on average for the left, four months for the right. === Right-Wing Defendants Get Not Guilty Verdicts (03:39) === [00:20:58] Good. [00:21:04] There's two golden rules that any man should live by. [00:21:08] Rule one, never mess with a country girl. [00:21:12] You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. [00:21:14] And rule two, never mess with her friends either. [00:21:18] We always say, trust your girlfriends. [00:21:22] I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... [00:21:26] Oh my God, this is the same man. [00:21:28] A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. [00:21:32] I felt like I got hit by a truck. [00:21:34] I thought, how could this happen to me? [00:21:36] The cops didn't seem to care. [00:21:38] So they take matters into their own hands. [00:21:41] I said, oh, hell no. [00:21:43] I vowed I will be his last target. [00:21:45] He's going to get what he deserves. [00:21:50] Listen to the girlfriends. [00:21:51] Trust me, babe. [00:21:52] On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:22:02] I'm Laurie Siegel, and on Mostly Human, I go beyond the headlines with the people building our future. [00:22:08] This week, an interview with one of the most influential figures in Silicon Valley, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. [00:22:15] I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to products we put out in the world. [00:22:21] From power to parenthood. [00:22:23] Kids, teenagers, I think they will need a lot of guardrails around AI. [00:22:27] This is such a powerful and such a new thing. [00:22:29] From addiction to acceleration. [00:22:31] The world we live in is a competitive world, and I don't think that's going to stop, even if you did a lot of redistribution. [00:22:36] You know, we have a deep desire to excel and be competitive and gain status and be useful to others. [00:22:42] And it's a multiplayer game. [00:22:45] What does the man who has extraordinary influence over our lives have to say about the weight of that responsibility? [00:22:51] Find out on Mostly Human. [00:22:53] My highest order bit is to not destroy the world with AI. [00:22:56] Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. [00:23:04] Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. [00:23:10] I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. [00:23:15] Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. [00:23:20] Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. [00:23:30] And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. [00:23:35] Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. [00:23:38] He related to the Phantom at that point. [00:23:41] Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. [00:23:43] That's so funny. [00:23:44] Share, stay with me each night, each morning. [00:23:53] Say you love me. [00:23:56] You know I. [00:23:57] So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:24:04] What's up, everyone? [00:24:05] I'm Ego Modern. [00:24:06] My next guest, you know, from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Farrell. [00:24:18] My dad gave me the best advice ever. [00:24:21] I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. [00:24:26] I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. [00:24:28] I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. [00:24:32] He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. === A Pretty Good Hitler Emerges (15:40) === [00:24:37] Yeah. [00:24:38] He goes, but there's so much luck involved. [00:24:41] And he's like, just give it a shot. [00:24:42] He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. [00:24:50] If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. [00:24:53] It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. [00:25:00] Yeah, it would not be. [00:25:02] Right, it wouldn't be that. [00:25:03] There's a lot of luck. [00:25:05] Listen to Thanks Dad on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:25:14] We're back. [00:25:15] Now, to bring this back to modern history, the UK Guardian just conducted a study on last year's protest involving 13,000 left and right-wing demonstrations and found that police were like four times as likely to use force on left-wing demonstrators and three and a half times as likely to use force on left-wing demonstrators during protests where there was no destruction of property or looting. [00:25:39] So this is not a the left like loots more. [00:25:41] This is a win in right-wing protests where there's no violence and left-wing protests where there's no violence, the police are three and a half times more likely to use violence against the left. [00:25:52] Cool stuff. [00:25:52] Cool shit. [00:25:53] It's the same. [00:25:55] It's all the same. [00:25:57] Broadly speaking, like we do, like our judges and DAs and stuff are kind of, well, in some areas are less like the Nazis were, right? [00:26:05] For one thing, they didn't transition from being under a king to a democracy and weren't all angry about that. [00:26:11] Yeah. [00:26:12] Which is not to say, like the whole Justice Department is stacked towards the right, but it's not as bad as it was for Weimar, but it's pretty bad. [00:26:18] Now, Neinhardt had actually ruled on a case involving Hitler once before in January of 1922 when Hitler had attacked a rifle politician giving a speech at another beer hall. [00:26:28] Hitler had faced three to six months in prison then, and Neinhardt had ordered him to serve just a month, although he'd also put him on probation. [00:26:35] And Hitler was on probation when he tried to overthrow the government in 1923. [00:26:40] He was on probation. [00:26:42] Wow. [00:26:43] They may already own probation. [00:26:45] Dang, dead. [00:26:46] You're like, oh, I know the judge. [00:26:47] We're good. [00:26:48] The judge who knew that Hitler was on probation didn't bring this up at all during the trial. [00:26:53] Didn't inform the jury, made sure no one knew that Hitler was on probation when he tried to overthrow the government. [00:27:00] Oh my God. [00:27:03] That's extremely funny. [00:27:04] It's rad as hell. [00:27:06] Don't, don't, yeah, no, no notes. [00:27:08] So, yeah, the website's famous trials gives a good overview of how the case opened, and it makes it clear just how stacked the deck was in Hitler's favor. [00:27:18] The presiding judge called Hitler to the stand. [00:27:21] Consistent with German procedure at the time, the questions came from the judge, not the prosecutor, although they were written largely by the prosecution. [00:27:28] In the afternoon session, Hitler gave a nearly four-hour opening statement that dazzled spectators. [00:27:33] He began by telling his life story, then shifted to his political vision. [00:27:37] He was animated, his voice rising and falling as he laid out his vision of the country's problems and hopes for the future. [00:27:42] He was unsparing in his criticism of racial minorities and left-wing ideologies, calling communists not even human. [00:27:49] He blamed the government in Berlin for the economic crisis, saying it had practically robbed the people of the last marks from their pockets. [00:27:56] He said, Policy is made not with the palm branch, but the sword. [00:28:00] Hitler's words were reported around the world. [00:28:02] Hitler claimed to want only the best for his people and said he alone bore the responsibility and also every consequence for the failed putsch. [00:28:10] He compared the Bavarian leaders who turned on him to a horse that lost its courage before the hurdle. [00:28:15] So four hours of this shit. [00:28:18] Yeah, and one of the main impacts of this is that he gets to speak for hours and lay out his entire political philosophy at a trial that is internationally reported on. [00:28:28] So suddenly this guy who was unknown outside of Bavaria becomes known worldwide. [00:28:34] Yeah. [00:28:35] Because the judge lets him just say whatever he wants. [00:28:38] Can you imagine being a prosecution in the situation and being like, is he done? [00:28:42] Point of order? [00:28:43] Are you four hours, dog? [00:28:46] Like, you not even talk about the case. [00:28:49] Yeah. [00:28:49] Yeah. [00:28:50] Are you serious? [00:28:51] Yeah. [00:28:51] Yeah. [00:28:52] So when sensitive matters were addressed, matters whose disclosure might be especially embarrassing to the government or suggest a violation of the Versailles Treaty, like all of the machine guns being given to militias, the court went into secret session. [00:29:04] So for example, Hitler's testimony that his party's stormtroopers were trained with the knowledge and support of Bavarian authorities, a clear violation of the treaty, was never heard or reported by the international press. [00:29:15] So the fact that, like, before Hitler tried to overthrow the government, the army had trained and given guns to his militias, they just hid that. [00:29:24] Talk about that because it's a violation of international law, you know? [00:29:27] We just broke our laws. [00:29:30] Everyone's lost. [00:29:30] Yeah. [00:29:31] Dog. [00:29:32] So a bunch of fucked up stuff came out during the trial, including the fact that the Bavarian police commissioner had been promised by Hitler one week before the putsch that he would not do a putsch. [00:29:42] Like Seisser went to Hitler and was like, Are you planning to overthrow the government? [00:29:45] And Hitler was like, No, of course not. [00:29:48] Why is everybody just trusting each other? [00:29:50] Hitler overthrow a government? [00:29:52] No. [00:29:54] Hey, we're good, bro. [00:29:55] You're good. [00:29:56] Don't even trick. [00:29:57] We're good Can I have some more machine guns Like 30 more, maybe. [00:30:00] Tops, right? [00:30:01] Just 30 more machine guns for duck hunting, you know? [00:30:04] I tell you what, pass me them guns. [00:30:07] Promise you everything's cool. [00:30:09] These are not overthrowing the government guns. [00:30:12] They're, you know, like, you know, just walking around guns just for the for the for style. [00:30:20] Collector. [00:30:20] I'm a collector of machine guns. [00:30:23] Yes. [00:30:24] God dog. [00:30:25] So why everybody in power just believe the other dudes? [00:30:30] Like, it's amazing. [00:30:31] Hey, homie, you go come back, right? [00:30:32] Yeah. [00:30:33] Okay. [00:30:33] Yeah, you're not going to do this, right? [00:30:35] You're not going to overthrow the government, are you? [00:30:36] We're good. [00:30:38] I'm with y'all, man. [00:30:39] This is why they needed women in power because we would have been like, trust issues. [00:30:43] No. [00:30:45] Absolutely not. [00:30:46] No, no, no. [00:30:49] There's been multiple times that my wife has been absolutely correct about stuff that I was completely like, nah, it's cool. [00:30:57] It's cool. [00:30:57] She was like, uh, no, it's not. [00:31:01] And I'm smart enough after this many years to listen to her. [00:31:05] Now, no one listened to anyone smart when they put Hitler on trial. [00:31:09] There was a good member of the prosecution who really wanted to put him away, but other members of the prosecution were actually sympathetic to Hitler. [00:31:15] One of the prosecutors described Hitler's desire to institute a military dictatorship as a high, perhaps morally legitimate goal. [00:31:24] Although he added that this did not justify his use of criminal means. [00:31:28] Hey man, you were right to overthrow the government to institute a dictatorship, but did you have to use violence? [00:31:34] Hey, man. [00:31:35] Not like this, bro. [00:31:36] Peaceful protest, Hitler. [00:31:38] Come on. [00:31:39] Come on, man. [00:31:39] Not like this. [00:31:42] The prosecution, some of the prosecution at least, praised Hitler's honest efforts to inspire belief in the German cause and said, as human beings, we cannot withhold our respect from Hitler. [00:31:53] What the f? [00:31:56] I am growing, trying to grow in empathy here, but I'm just like, okay, I know hindsight's 2020, but fam, you, for real? [00:32:05] You know who's not getting enough respect? [00:32:07] This Hitler fella. [00:32:08] This guy. [00:32:09] No respect. [00:32:11] I've been reading this guy. [00:32:12] I heard him talk for 22 days because he ain't shut up the whole 22 days. [00:32:17] And I think something in there. [00:32:22] I think this guy might be a pretty good Hitler. [00:32:24] Might be our best Hitler. [00:32:25] You know? [00:32:25] Yeah. [00:32:26] Let's give him a shot. [00:32:28] Wow. [00:32:28] On March 27th, Hitler gave his final statement, as defendants were allowed to do under German law. [00:32:33] Hitler told the court that his goal was never to become a minister. [00:32:36] Instead, I wanted to be the destroyer of Marxism. [00:32:40] He said he was born for politics, and just as a bird must sing because he is a bird, he had to engage in a political life. [00:32:46] He felt he had the duty to step forward and save Germany. [00:32:49] The putsch was not a failure, Hitler said. [00:32:51] On the contrary, it raised people to the highest pitch of enthusiasm. [00:32:55] He predicted, the hour will come when the masses who stand in the streets under our swastika flag will unite with those who fired on us at us on November 8th. [00:33:03] He said, the army we have formed is growing from day to day. [00:33:07] Hitler's words moved a number of people in the courtroom to tears. [00:33:10] Hitler argued that the government was prosecuting the wrong people. [00:33:14] For it is not you, gentlemen, who pronounce judgment upon us. [00:33:18] Instead, the judgment of the Eternal Court of History will pronounce against this prosecution which has been raised against us. [00:33:27] That's a quote from famous trials. [00:33:29] Yeah, it's pretty great shit. [00:33:31] They just let him say that. [00:33:33] Kind of rad. [00:33:34] Rock, to be honest. [00:33:36] And he was dead ass serious. [00:33:38] That, like, yo, you ain't, I'm, I'm not done, y'all. [00:33:40] It's only the beginning. [00:33:41] Oh, no. [00:33:42] I'm going to keep Hitlering. [00:33:43] That's what Hitlers do. [00:33:44] Yeah. [00:33:45] They just. [00:33:45] ABH, baby. [00:33:46] You know me. [00:33:47] ABH. [00:33:47] Yeah. [00:33:48] The big, the big, big Hitleries. [00:33:50] You know what I'm saying? [00:33:51] Is that a new t-shirt, too? [00:33:53] Yeah, can we get an always be? [00:33:54] Probably not, huh? [00:33:55] Probably not. [00:33:56] Okay. [00:33:56] Yeah, let's not do that. [00:33:57] You don't even invoke. [00:33:59] I don't know if you can invoke the old hits, putting on the hits. [00:34:02] That's the shirt. [00:34:03] Putting on the hits. [00:34:07] Putting on the hitlers. [00:34:09] So Hitler and his co-defendants were found guilty. [00:34:12] Most of them were sentenced to five years in prison, which was the absolute minimum sentence. [00:34:16] And they would all be eligible for parole in six months. [00:34:19] Ludendorff was acquitted on all charges. [00:34:22] Judge Neithart justified the lenient sentences by citing Hitler's purely patriotic, noble, and unselfish motive of wanting to be the supreme ruler of all Germany. [00:34:31] This guy's not selfish. [00:34:32] He just wants to be the dictator. [00:34:35] Yeah, that's amazing. [00:34:37] Okay, okay, so hear me out. [00:34:39] I know I did this, and I know a lot of people died, but I'm also trying to take over the country. [00:34:44] Yeah, in my defense, I wanted to be the dictator, you know? [00:34:47] That was in my defense. [00:34:49] And I'm trying to save you from an imaginary enemy. [00:34:54] Yeah. [00:34:55] You might not have a dictator if I'm not your dictator. [00:34:57] You know, you know what I mean? [00:34:58] You might get a dictator if I wasn't your dictator. [00:35:01] So some observers at the time recognized how preposterous and terrifying all of this was. [00:35:07] One German confided in their wives. [00:35:09] Continue. [00:35:10] Yeah. [00:35:11] One German journalist called it a political carnival and pointed out that the judge allowing Hitler to make repeated flowery speeches just turned the trial into an ad for the Nazi party. [00:35:20] And it seems to have worked. [00:35:21] That spring, despite the party being officially banned, three of Hitler's 10 co-defendants were elected to the Reichstag. [00:35:28] So when I think about like, yeah, when I think about the fact that like, okay, so we going through another impeachment trial, is people still on Donald John's side? [00:35:38] Like when I, I just imagine myself being a senator and just when it's my time to talk, just being like, did we all not almost die Tuesday? [00:35:49] What is the fucking holdup? [00:35:50] We just, were y'all here? [00:35:52] We was all here, right? [00:35:53] Did I imagine this? [00:35:55] Did we almost die on Tuesday? [00:35:58] What are y'all talking about? [00:36:00] Like, I just imagined that. [00:36:01] So I imagine somebody in, you know, the Weimar Republic at the time going, did y'all just hear, am I the only one that just heard this? [00:36:10] Like, did y'all do? [00:36:12] Y'all heard that. [00:36:13] This is a bad idea. [00:36:14] How come nobody else hear that this is a bad idea? [00:36:19] Yeah, that's kind of the repeated story of fascism in a lot of countries. [00:36:23] So because humans never learn anything. [00:36:27] Is that the name of your next podcast after this? [00:36:28] Humans never learn anything? [00:36:30] No one learns anything. [00:36:31] So why listen to this show? [00:36:32] Just download it so I get the ad dollars and just stumble forward. [00:36:37] I don't know. [00:36:37] So he was sent to Landsberg Prison. [00:36:40] And Landsberg prison had two parts. [00:36:42] There was a normal prison, which was like a panopticon, one of those big prisons where like the guards in the middle can see everything everyone does. [00:36:49] And then there's a big castle that's like a luxury hotel. [00:36:52] And Hitler gets sent to the luxury hotel part of the cross. [00:36:54] Of course this motherfucker gets sent to the luxury hotel. [00:36:57] It's like it's the Germans had a whole chunk of their justice system that was luxury prisons for mainly right-wing terrorists. [00:37:04] Oh, yeah. [00:37:04] He was a club fed. [00:37:07] You know what I'm saying? [00:37:08] Count Arco Valley, the guy who shot Eisner, went to this prison and got like, like, and gets like, you know, he lives in like a nice, like a, like a condo, basically. [00:37:19] Yeah. [00:37:19] And that's what Hitler gets. [00:37:21] I might go rob somebody so I can go back. [00:37:23] Oh, no, you got to try to overthrow the government to get down here. [00:37:27] Yeah. [00:37:27] So he gets a, Hitler gets a private apartment at this castle. [00:37:30] He's given tea, coffee, nice food, a liter a day of beer, and all the books he wanted to read. [00:37:35] His time was his own. [00:37:36] He was allowed to spend five hours a day walking through the garden and stuff, deep in thought. [00:37:40] All of his friends were in jail with him, and they got to like party and play music. [00:37:44] It was less prison and more being locked in a nice castle with your friends for less than a year. [00:37:49] I was like, you're on a retreat, bro. [00:37:51] A lot of people would pay for this, you know? [00:37:53] Yeah. [00:37:54] Sounds like a frat house. [00:37:56] I was going to say like a TikTok influencer house. [00:37:58] Yeah, it's a hype house, which is probably where our next fascist dictator will come from. [00:38:03] I'm so proud of both of you for knowing those references. [00:38:06] Oh, yeah. [00:38:07] I've been reading Taylor Lawrence's work. [00:38:10] Yeah. [00:38:10] Go ahead. [00:38:11] Aww. [00:38:18] There's two golden rules that any man should live by. [00:38:22] Rule one, never mess with a country girl. [00:38:25] If you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. [00:38:28] And rule two, never mess with her friends either. [00:38:31] We always say, trust your girlfriends. [00:38:35] I'm Anna Sinfield. [00:38:37] And in this new season of the girlfriends... [00:38:39] Oh my God, this is the same man. [00:38:41] A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. [00:38:46] I felt like I got hit by a truck. [00:38:48] I thought, how could this happen to me? [00:38:50] The cops didn't seem to care. [00:38:52] So they take matters into their own hands. [00:38:55] They said, oh, hell no. [00:38:56] I vowed I will be his last target. [00:38:59] He's going to get what he deserves. [00:39:03] Listen to the girlfriends. [00:39:05] Trust me, babe. [00:39:06] On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:39:16] I'm Laurie Siegel, and on Mostly Human, I go beyond the headlines with the people building our future. [00:39:22] This week, an interview with one of the most influential figures in Silicon Valley, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. [00:39:28] I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to products we put out in the world. [00:39:35] From power to parenthood. [00:39:37] Kids, teenagers, I think they will need a lot of guardrails around AI. [00:39:40] This is such a powerful and such a new thing. [00:39:42] From addiction to acceleration. [00:39:45] The world we live in is a competitive world, and I don't think that's going to stop, even if you did a lot of redistribution. [00:39:49] You know, we have a deep desire to excel and be competitive and gain status and be useful to others. [00:39:56] And it's a multiplayer game. [00:39:58] What does the man who has extraordinary influence over our lives have to say about the weight of that responsibility? [00:40:05] Find out on Mostly Human. [00:40:06] My highest order bit is to not destroy the world with AI. [00:40:09] Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. === Writing Mein Kampf Behind Bars (03:30) === [00:40:18] Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. [00:40:23] I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. [00:40:28] Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. [00:40:34] Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. [00:40:43] And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. [00:40:48] Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. [00:40:51] You related to the Phantom at that point. [00:40:54] Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. [00:40:56] That's so funny. [00:40:58] Share each day with me each night, each morning. [00:41:06] Say you love me. [00:41:09] You know I. [00:41:11] So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:41:18] What's up, everyone? [00:41:19] I'm Ego Modem. [00:41:20] My next guest, you know, from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Farrell. [00:41:31] My dad gave me the best advice ever. [00:41:34] I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. [00:41:39] I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. [00:41:42] I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. [00:41:46] He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. [00:41:51] Yeah. [00:41:51] He goes, but there's so much luck involved. [00:41:54] And he's like, just give it a shot. [00:41:56] He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. [00:42:04] If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. [00:42:06] It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. [00:42:14] Yeah, it would not be. [00:42:16] Right, it wouldn't be that. [00:42:17] There's a lot of luck. [00:42:18] Listen to Thanks Dad on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:42:28] Ah, we're back. [00:42:30] The worst thing about Hitler's sentence was that all of the comfortable free time that he got in Landsberg gave him space to work on his ideology. [00:42:38] Here we go. [00:42:39] 1924 would, as a result, go on to be one of the most important years in Hitler's life. [00:42:43] I'm going to quote now from a write-up by Douglas Linder. [00:42:46] By July, Hitler was hard at work on a work that would be both autobiography and political manifesto. [00:42:51] The completed work would be called Mein Kampf. [00:42:54] It would be 782 pages long and it would sell 12 million copies by 1945. [00:43:00] In the book, Hitler developed the two great themes that would mark his later career. [00:43:04] First, he defined world history as a struggle between races and saw Aryans as the culture creating race and Jews as the culture destroying race. [00:43:12] Second, he lays out a case for the imperative of German territorial expansion to the east. [00:43:17] He called it living space for Germans or Leewensraum. [00:43:21] On December 19th, the Bavarian Supreme Court ruled in favor of Hitler's parole. [00:43:25] Hitler was released the next day. [00:43:27] He said, When I left Landsberg, everybody wept, by which he means the guards, but not I. Hitler said his time in prison gave him that fearless faith, that optimism, that confidence in our destiny, which nothing could shake thereafter. [00:43:40] He said that the prison had given him a frenzy of liberty and that without my imprisonment, Mein Kampf would never have been written. === Dun Dun Dun To Be Continued (07:44) === [00:43:48] What? [00:43:50] Good shit. [00:43:51] Damn it. [00:43:52] Good shit. [00:43:53] I felt like as soon as you name the prison, if this was a movie, that's when like the single key of the haunting song starts. [00:44:00] Yeah. [00:44:01] That you think it's over and then the music builds. [00:44:03] And then it's having him walking around the thing with his hands behind his back, just kind of chilling. [00:44:07] And then it zooms in on him writing. [00:44:10] You know, on top of that, it says, Mein Kampf. [00:44:12] And we're just like, fuck. [00:44:14] Yeah. [00:44:14] Yeah. [00:44:15] Dun, dun, dun, to be continued. [00:44:18] Yeah. [00:44:19] Yep. [00:44:20] It's good stuff. [00:44:22] So, prop. [00:44:24] Oh, God. [00:44:24] That means you're stopping right there. [00:44:26] Yep. [00:44:26] That's the, that's, I mean, that's the putsch. [00:44:28] You know, that's the story of the putsch and what happened after. [00:44:30] We're going to talk more about anti-fascism in Germany in a later episode of this mini-series and stuff because we didn't really, a lot of that hadn't started yet, you know? [00:44:38] Yeah. [00:44:38] But after. [00:44:40] Yeah, I got my names wrong because I thought this was the one when they set when he set the building on fire. [00:44:46] No, no, that's the Reichstag fire. [00:44:47] That's the Reichstag fire. [00:44:49] He's already in power when that happens. [00:44:51] At that point, right. [00:44:52] Yeah. [00:44:52] Yeah. [00:44:52] Okay. [00:44:54] No, this is this is his first attempt to take power, and the fact that he receives no meaningful punishment from it is why he winds up in power. [00:45:02] Yeah, yeah, which is like, huh, wow. [00:45:04] It's rad. [00:45:05] He's super cool. [00:45:06] You should probably punish somebody if you can't let this shit ride. [00:45:09] Okay. [00:45:09] Yeah, maybe if a fascist tries to overthrow your government, they should face severe consequences. [00:45:14] You gotta, you can't let it ride. [00:45:15] Yeah, you can't let it ride unity. [00:45:18] You're not a big fan of the justice system or you want unity because it'll come back on you eventually. [00:45:23] Yeah, of course. [00:45:24] Maybe. [00:45:25] Possibly. [00:45:26] Prophip.com. [00:45:28] Yeah. [00:45:29] Those are my plugs. [00:45:31] Kay. [00:45:33] Yeah. [00:45:34] And my plug is nothing. [00:45:35] I have no plugs. [00:45:36] I refuse to plug. [00:45:38] I will fight to the death anyone who tries to make me plug. [00:45:41] So if you're a little bit more. [00:45:42] You will put the put the plugs. [00:45:44] Have I missed a plug? [00:45:46] Nah, it's your funeral. [00:45:48] All right. [00:45:48] Well, bro, the thing is, like, you have so many things to plug. [00:45:52] Yeah, I get it. [00:45:53] It's exhausting. [00:45:55] I have plugs for you, Robert. [00:45:57] All right. [00:45:59] Plug me. [00:45:59] Plug me. [00:46:00] Robert is at iWriteOK on Twitter. [00:46:03] He has a book called The Brief History of Vice. [00:46:07] Uh-huh. [00:46:08] He has a podcast called It Could Happen Here, Worst Year Ever with Katie Stoll and Cody Johnston. [00:46:17] Yep. [00:46:20] Uprising, which is with local journalists and activists from Portland on the Portland Uprising. [00:46:28] Oh, I'm so tired. [00:46:30] Behind the police with this beautiful man prop as well. [00:46:33] West West. [00:46:34] Yep. [00:46:35] God damn it, Robert. [00:46:36] Why did we do so many shows? [00:46:38] You got the one about the women, the women. [00:46:41] The women's war, the women's war, which is when he went to Syria. [00:46:46] I'm so tired. [00:46:48] You're a machine. [00:46:49] At TeePublic for our merch. [00:46:52] You could get the logo shirt for this podcast, Behind the Insurrection's there, and you can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at BastardsPod. [00:47:00] Hey, as a funny. [00:47:02] You nailed it. [00:47:03] You nailed it. [00:47:04] I also think. [00:47:05] Okay. [00:47:06] Oh, yeah. [00:47:06] Well, I heard the first episode today. [00:47:08] Oh, you did. [00:47:09] Oh, good. [00:47:09] I listened to it. [00:47:10] That was dope. [00:47:11] Yeah, you can find it in the Behind the Bastards feed. [00:47:15] Yeah. [00:47:16] We'll be coming out with the rest of it as a separate thing, and it'll also be available in EPUB form, so you can read it if you want to read it. [00:47:24] Somebody did say on my comments, which was so hilarious. [00:47:28] Well, I don't want to drag the guy because I appreciate they follow me. [00:47:31] But that about the artwork for this pod, that like because I'm pretty sure there wasn't a fire there. [00:47:40] So you guys putting a fire on there is pretty deceptive. [00:47:46] Guys, it's what I'm thinking. [00:47:51] They turned around the logo in like two days. [00:47:54] And this was the best thing. [00:47:55] That's pretty good. [00:47:56] I think it's fine. [00:47:57] That I had that if somebody wants to create for me, like, I love you. [00:48:01] It was a fun idea. [00:48:01] Yeah. [00:48:02] My favorite idea ever is I wanted to take like, like, in regards to like the show friends when they're on that couch and on a fountain, but the fountain at the U.S. Capitol. [00:48:13] And then it's like Franco, Mussolini, Trump, and Hitler sitting on the couch. [00:48:19] I think that would have been fun. [00:48:20] If somebody could do that for me, like, you'll make it. [00:48:23] You'll make my like month. [00:48:26] Yeah. [00:48:26] And also, it's just, look, guys, it's just, it's just artwork. [00:48:31] It's just, it's just the artwork. [00:48:33] What are you going to do? [00:48:34] What are you going to do? [00:48:35] Yeah. [00:48:35] It's fine. [00:48:36] We wanted to get across that this is history behind the insurrection that happened at the Capitol. [00:48:42] And we have like an inch-wide thing to do it in. [00:48:45] It's fine. [00:48:45] Deal with it. [00:48:47] What do you find? [00:48:47] What do you want? [00:48:48] What do you want? [00:48:48] Come on. [00:48:49] Content is free. [00:48:51] It's free. [00:48:51] None of you are paying for this. [00:48:53] No. [00:48:53] Come on. [00:48:54] Unless you're buying our wonderful products and services. [00:48:56] In which case, thank you very much. [00:48:58] Yes, thank you. [00:48:58] Thank you very much. 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[00:49:55] Share each day with me each night, each morning. [00:50:03] Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. [00:50:11] What's up, everyone? [00:50:12] I'm Ego Mode of my next guest. [00:50:14] It's Will Farrell. [00:50:17] My dad gave me the best advice ever. [00:50:20] He goes, just give it a shot. [00:50:22] But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. [00:50:29] If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. [00:50:31] It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hanging in there. [00:50:38] Yeah, it would not be. [00:50:40] Right, it wouldn't be that. [00:50:41] There's a lot of life. [00:50:43] Listen to Thanks Dad on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. 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