Behind the Bastards - Part One: Duterte: The Mass Murdering Mayor
Aired: 2018-10-02
Duration: 01:10:51


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=== Motorcycle Killers in Philippines (15:06) ===

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[00:02:22]  Hello again, everybody, and welcome to Behind the Bastards, the show where we tell you everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history.
[00:02:29]  Now, on this show, I read a story about someone terrible to a guest who is coming in cold.
[00:02:34]  And this week, my guest is Blake Wexler, stand-up comedian.
[00:02:38]  You just had an album drop called Stuffed Boy.
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[00:02:45]  How are you doing today?
[00:02:46]  I'm good, man.
[00:02:46]  Thanks for having me.
[00:02:47]  Yeah, I love this idea.
[00:02:48]  It's so cool.
[00:02:49]  Well, you don't know who we're talking about today.
[00:02:52]  No.
[00:02:52]  Does the name Rodrigo Duterte mean anything to you?
[00:02:56]  It does not, actually.
[00:02:57]  Okay.
[00:02:58]  Yeah.
[00:02:58]  This is good.
[00:03:00]  Fantastic.
[00:03:01]  I just took a sip of something that's not Dorito, so I'm not going to give them a free ad.
[00:03:06]  But you did just see me wolf down a significant chunk of a bag before we got into this.
[00:03:10]  You liquefied it with your mouth.
[00:03:12]  I'm fired up, and I'm ready to get into this.
[00:03:14]  So let us start an episode that I'm right now calling Rodrigo Duterte, the mayor of Murder Town.
[00:03:21]  This is part one.
[00:03:23]  He's a politician, then.
[00:03:24]  Oh, yes.
[00:03:25]  Oh, is that true?
[00:03:26]  Yeah.
[00:03:26]  A very successful politician.
[00:03:27]  Excellent title.
[00:03:28]  Currently the president of the Philippines.
[00:03:31]  Okay.
[00:03:31]  Yeah.
[00:03:31]  So early on in his presidency, Donald Trump congratulated Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Philippines, for doing a quote, unbelievable job on the drug problem.
[00:03:40]  In February of 2018, a senior administration official said this to the website Axios.
[00:03:46]  Quote, he, Trump, often jokes about killing drug dealers.
[00:03:49]  He'll say, you know, the Chinese and Filipinos don't have a drug problem.
[00:03:52]  They just kill them.
[00:03:53]  Interestingly enough, large parts of both of those statements are accurate.
[00:03:57]  It would be fair to call Duterte's drug war in the Philippines unbelievable.
[00:04:00]  In the last two years, 118,287 drug users or dealers have been arrested, and 1.3 million drug users have turned themselves into the authorities.
[00:04:10]  More than 20,000 people, many of them children, have been killed.
[00:04:14]  Virtually all of them were murdered, often by masked men on motorcycles.
[00:04:17]  This carnage was all explicitly promised to the people of the Philippines when they voted for Rodrigo Duterte.
[00:04:22]  He's been fairly open about his desire to murder drug addicts, mostly users of Shabu or methamphetamine.
[00:04:28]  In September of 2016, President Duterte said this: If Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have, and then he pointed it himself and continued, Hitler massacred 3 million Jews.
[00:04:39]  There's 3 million drug addicts.
[00:04:40]  There are.
[00:04:41]  I'd be happy to slaughter them.
[00:04:43]  So that's who we're talking about today.
[00:04:46]  Yeah.
[00:04:46]  Guy who became president promising to kill 3% of the country.
[00:04:50]  And so far, he's kept his promise.
[00:04:52]  He will kill a lot of them.
[00:04:53]  Yeah.
[00:04:54]  The guy will deliver on a promise.
[00:04:57]  Now, I think he had promised to have killed a lot more by this point.
[00:05:00]  So you could argue that he's, I mean, every politician, they bend it a little bit.
[00:05:04]  Thank you.
[00:05:05]  He promised something like 60,000 in six months or whatever, and he hasn't made that much.
[00:05:10]  How do you make up for that?
[00:05:11]  Like, you know, like, we need more masked men.
[00:05:13]  Well, we ran out of masks, so we can't.
[00:05:16]  Have you seen the mask shortage lately?
[00:05:18]  There's just nothing left on the shelves.
[00:05:20]  People stop using drugs.
[00:05:21]  Now we just have to kill regular people.
[00:05:23]  We're just murdering people, which they are.
[00:05:25]  They are.
[00:05:25]  They also are killing petty criminals.
[00:05:27]  Pickpockets and stuff are also getting shot dead by murder squads.
[00:05:31]  Like petty criminals in that, like they're passive-aggressive and like they like to, or whatever.
[00:05:36]  You interpreted that sentence differently than it usually is.
[00:05:40]  Just major criminals who are really, really passive-aggressive.
[00:05:44]  Yes, exactly.
[00:05:45]  No, no, no.
[00:05:46]  That's not what's happening.
[00:05:47]  Okay, that's fair.
[00:05:48]  They're just murdering poor people.
[00:05:49]  Oh, that's bad then.
[00:05:50]  Yeah, no, it's really terrible.
[00:05:52]  Right.
[00:05:52]  So President Duterte's drug war in the Philippines is now the greatest mass slaughter of civilians in Asia since the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
[00:06:00]  But much of the death caused by the Khmer Rouge was accidental due to their insane and patently idiotic social experiments.
[00:06:06]  What's happening in the Philippines is entirely intentional, directed by a single man.
[00:06:10]  So how did a man like Rodrigo Duterte come to be, and how did Filipino democracy allow for his rise to power?
[00:06:16]  You ready for a history lesson?
[00:06:18]  I'm very ready.
[00:06:19]  Here's a quick is Manny Pacquiao in the Philippines?
[00:06:22]  Yeah, he's coming to the store.
[00:06:23]  He's a member of Congress and a supporter of Duterte.
[00:06:26]  Right.
[00:06:26]  Okay, cool.
[00:06:27]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:27]  I mean, he doesn't play a big role in this, but he actually is very politically active and a supporter of the mayor's murder people agenda.
[00:06:34]  Yeah.
[00:06:35]  God, that guy just gets worse and worse press just over and over again.
[00:06:38]  He's a homophobe, not good at boxing anymore, and he supports a murderer.
[00:06:43]  All right, anyway, yeah, just as wondering.
[00:06:45]  Mass murderer.
[00:06:45]  Excuse me, don't you dare take the mask away.
[00:06:48]  Don't undercut this man's accomplishments.
[00:06:50]  He earned that title.
[00:06:51]  He did.
[00:06:52]  Yes, he did.
[00:06:53]  Yes.
[00:06:53]  Yes, he did.
[00:06:54]  And yes, he can have shot in the streets.
[00:06:59]  That was his campaign slogan, by the way.
[00:07:01]  Yes, I yes, we can shoot pickpockets.
[00:07:06]  Yes, we can accidentally gun down children off of motorcycle back because it's hard to hit drug addicts when you're shooting at them from a motorcycle.
[00:07:13]  It is.
[00:07:14]  Yeah, it is.
[00:07:14]  Yeah.
[00:07:15]  Well, accidents are going to happen.
[00:07:16]  You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.
[00:07:19]  That's a really good way to look at gunning down people in the street.
[00:07:22]  Yeah, I've been saying it for years in regards to that issue.
[00:07:25]  I think American police could adopt that as a motto, too.
[00:07:28]  They definitely could.
[00:07:30]  Especially when they're, well, I mean, we all live in Los Angeles.
[00:07:33]  We were all there for the...
[00:07:34]  That's outside of the point, the police firing at a Trader Joe's.
[00:07:38]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:38]  Yeah.
[00:07:39]  Yeah.
[00:07:39]  You do get a lot of cases like that in the Philippines right now because there's just essentially guys on motorcycles roaming around killing people who have been the government has put on a list as drug pushers or whatever.
[00:07:50]  And they're just kind of firing into crowds and stuff a lot of the time.
[00:07:53]  Do they have a cool name?
[00:07:56]  Yeah, actually, they did.
[00:07:57]  I figured they'd have to, right?
[00:07:59]  Yeah, we'll get into that.
[00:08:01]  There is a cool name.
[00:08:02]  Yeah, no, for sure.
[00:08:03]  They even have like a patch and stuff.
[00:08:05]  It's pretty sweet.
[00:08:06]  Okay, good.
[00:08:06]  All right, so let's get in some history so we can understand sort of the context that Duterte came to power in.
[00:08:11]  So Spain was the first colonial power to take control in the Philippines.
[00:08:14]  Their rule there sort of began in the 1520s when Ferdinand Magellan successfully planted some flags and then got murdered.
[00:08:21]  Spanish domination nonetheless spread across the island chain, and for the next 300 and something years, they would be the dominant power in the archipelago.
[00:08:28]  Spain brought many things to the Philippines, including the Catholic faith.
[00:08:32]  This would prove to be a decidedly mixed bag, but that's coming in a little bit.
[00:08:35]  So by the late 1800s, Spanish power had started to fade.
[00:08:39]  In 1896, self-declared President Emilio Aguinaldo led a local insurrection against Spain.
[00:08:44]  By the time the Spanish-American War kicked off and U.S. forces reached the Philippines, Aguinaldo had conquered basically everything in the Philippines but the capital of Manila.
[00:08:53]  So the Filipino rebels worked with the U.S. Navy to encircle the city, but the U.S. refused direct support until her troops were able to land and replace the Filipinos around Manila.
[00:09:03]  See, the U.S. was actually communicating directly with Spain during this whole time because even though we were actively at war with them and fighting alongside the insurgents trying to cast off Spanish control, we still considered Spain the rightful government of the Philippines.
[00:09:16]  The fact that the Filipino people had actually already picked a president and fought and bled for a new government didn't really matter to us.
[00:09:22]  So we sat down and we worked out a deal with the Spanish garrison commander.
[00:09:26]  He agreed to surrender under the condition that the U.S. make it look like there'd been a battle.
[00:09:30]  So he was like, I'll surrender this city, but you got to pretend that we fought for it.
[00:09:35]  But people have to die in this surrender.
[00:09:37]  Well, I don't think anybody died in the fighting.
[00:09:39]  It was like a staged battle where they were just kind of like shooting so it looked like, okay, we didn't just surrender Manila.
[00:09:45]  It's like when you're kids, you just bang your swords together, you know, when you're fighting with fake swords.
[00:09:50]  That, by the way, I was assuming that we've all had sword fights as children.
[00:09:54]  Yeah, but it's not an actual stabbing motion.
[00:09:56]  You're just hitting.
[00:09:57]  Yeah, I would love to watch a fake battle.
[00:09:59]  Yeah, it seems like it could have been a lot of fun.
[00:10:01]  Yeah.
[00:10:01]  Yeah, so there were other conditions to the surrender.
[00:10:04]  No Filipino rebels could be allowed inside the city.
[00:10:07]  So on August 13th, 1898, the fake Battle of Manila was fake fought, and Americans took the city.
[00:10:13]  Now, you might think that helping a captive people throw off the chains of colonial bondage would have been the U.S.'s thing.
[00:10:20]  What with that being our history?
[00:10:22]  But President William McKinley felt differently.
[00:10:24]  He decided to annex the islands in order to better quote, educate the Filipinos and uplift them and Christianize them.
[00:10:31]  He did not believe that they were capable of governing themselves.
[00:10:34]  The Treaty of Paris, which ended the Spanish-American War, gave the U.S. the option of buying the Philippines for $20 million.
[00:10:40]  By January of 1899, they were ours.
[00:10:43]  Deal.
[00:10:44]  Yeah.
[00:10:44]  Was he assassinated?
[00:10:45]  He sure was.
[00:10:46]  He shot, shot dead by an anarchist, and kind of had it coming.
[00:10:49]  I'm going to go ahead and say it.
[00:10:50]  Fuck William McKinley.
[00:10:52]  Kind of a dick.
[00:10:53]  Yeah.
[00:10:55]  So, as you might have guessed, the army of free people who had just liberated themselves from a colonial oppressor were not happy with having another colonial oppressor land on top of them.
[00:11:03]  In February, Aguinaldo and his army attacked the United States forces.
[00:11:07]  Conventional warfare was not successful for the Philippine rebels, what with the machine guns and such.
[00:11:13]  So the Filipino army turned into the Filipino insurgency in November of 1899.
[00:11:18]  The U.S. Army proved profoundly ill-suited to guerrilla warfare, which is something that's never happened again in our history.
[00:11:25]  Right, yeah.
[00:11:26]  Yeah, no.
[00:11:26]  That was the first and last time.
[00:11:27]  First and last time.
[00:11:28]  It's the uniforms.
[00:11:29]  They're not breathable.
[00:11:30]  You can't wear them in a jungle.
[00:11:32]  No, and once we figured out Under Armor, we really had counterinsurgency down.
[00:11:36]  That was the key, it turned out.
[00:11:37]  A hundred thanks.
[00:11:38]  Yeah.
[00:11:40]  It was a hydration issue.
[00:11:42]  Yeah, it was a hydration issue.
[00:11:44]  That was the problem.
[00:11:46]  So after about a year of fighting, Major General Arthur MacArthur took over the U.S. forces and declared martial law over the entire Philippine archipelago.
[00:11:55]  He enacted General Order 100, which was an old civil war directive that allowed the army to execute ununiformed combatants and their supporters.
[00:12:03]  The goal was to isolate the guerrillas, and that's exactly what happened.
[00:12:06]  Aguinaldo was captured in March of 1901.
[00:12:09]  Now, at that point, things degenerated into severe ugliness.
[00:12:12]  General Franklin Bell forced 300,000 Filipino civilians onto concentration camps, where a good number of them died of disease.
[00:12:19]  In August of 1901, there was a machete attack that wiped out most of an American garrison on an island called Samar.
[00:12:25]  Jesus.
[00:12:26]  The U.S. Army responded by massacring every man above the age of 10, which you may note included a lot of children.
[00:12:33]  You've never heard the phrase, oh, I saw this 11-year-old man the other day.
[00:12:37]  Wait, what?
[00:12:39]  11-year-old.
[00:12:40]  He's checking on brain.
[00:12:41]  Okay, he's 10, but this son's a hard 11.
[00:12:44]  Like, you get him in the killing truck.
[00:12:46]  There's a group of 12-year-old men yelling at you.
[00:12:51]  I mean, this was a different time.
[00:12:53]  People died of cholera when they were 14, usually, I guess, but still seems a little bit harsh.
[00:12:59]  Yeah.
[00:13:00]  The average age of retirement, by the way, back then.
[00:13:02]  14.
[00:13:03]  Yeah.
[00:13:03]  We did make the general who carried out the massacre retire.
[00:13:07]  So that's a version of justice.
[00:13:10]  It really is.
[00:13:11]  A shade of justice.
[00:13:12]  Yeah.
[00:13:13]  By February of 1902, the insurgency finally ran out of steam.
[00:13:17]  President Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, the bully guy, declared victory on the 4th of July, 1902.
[00:13:23]  They actually extended the length of the war so that he could declare victory on the 4th of July.
[00:13:27]  Yeah, that's a very Teddy Roosevelt thing to do.
[00:13:30]  A true equestrian victory.
[00:13:31]  What's a few more days of war?
[00:13:33]  July 4th.
[00:13:34]  We'll save so much money on fireworks.
[00:13:37]  Let's do this right.
[00:13:40]  In total, 4,234 Americans died during the fighting, along with 20,000 Filipino insurgents and 200,000 civilians.
[00:13:48]  So it was a bad time.
[00:13:51]  Yeah.
[00:13:51]  Bad time all around.
[00:13:53]  Except for a three-year occupation by the Japanese, the Philippines remained in U.S. control until 1946, when we gave the country back to itself and helped them build a wonderful democracy in our image.
[00:14:03]  From 1950 to 1965, this worked pretty well.
[00:14:06]  Average economic growth was higher in the Philippines than it was anywhere else in Southeast Asia.
[00:14:11]  So, a little bit of a rough start, a couple of hundred thousand deaths, you know, not a great start.
[00:14:16]  Right, but you can move on.
[00:14:18]  But you can move on, and by the 50s, you're making banks.
[00:14:20]  Yeah, we use them as a base.
[00:14:23]  Oh, yeah.
[00:14:24]  We used the shit out of them as a base.
[00:14:25]  Oh, man.
[00:14:26]  We parked some planes on that fucking rock.
[00:14:28]  Boats.
[00:14:29]  All the damn boats.
[00:14:30]  Aircraft carriers going left and right.
[00:14:32]  U.S. soldiers getting real drunk in Manila.
[00:14:35]  Oh, my God.
[00:14:35]  I mean, how many generations of now elderly Americans got their tattoos in Manila in that period?
[00:14:42]  I would love to see if we can get that stat, that exact stat.
[00:14:45]  How many staff infections from the tattoos they did?
[00:14:48]  Yeah.
[00:14:49]  Identical amount, by the way.
[00:14:51]  It's the same number.
[00:14:52]  Same number.
[00:14:53]  100%.
[00:14:55]  Rodrigo Roa Duterte was born right on the cusp of this period on March 28th, 1945.
[00:15:01]  So right before the Philippines gets its independence.
[00:15:04]  So like many Filipinos, he grew up Catholic, which I said before has been kind of a mixed bag for the people of the Philippines.
[00:15:11]  For the people of the United States as well, there has been really the world people.
[00:15:16]  Really for everybody.
[00:15:18]  In 2002, Archbishop Orlando Cuevado, president of the Catholic Bishops Conference, admitted that 200 of the 7,000 priests in the Philippines may have committed sexual misconduct over a 20-year period.
[00:15:30]  I'm going to guess this means that actual abuse of Filipino children by Catholic priests goes back further than 20 years, probably to the beginning of Catholicism in the Philippines.
[00:15:40]  One of the presumably many Filipino children molested by Catholic priests during this time was a 14-year-old schoolboy named Rodrigo Duterte.
[00:15:49]  Shortly after taking office, he called Pope Francis a son of a whore due to a traffic thing that the Pope had caused.
[00:15:55]  And when this caused something of an outrage.
[00:15:57]  Yeah, the pitcher.
[00:15:58]  The most relatable thing this guy is probably.
[00:16:01]  The only relatable thing, that defensible thing that he's done is get pissed off at traffic.
[00:16:06]  Pissed off at traffic and calling the Pope the son of a whore.
[00:16:08]  Son of a whore.
[00:16:09]  This created something of an outrage, and Duterte sort of talked because most of the Filipino people are Catholic.
[00:16:14]  Right.
[00:16:14]  And so Duterte sort of tried to walk this back by claiming that he'd been abused by an American Jesuit priest, Father Mark Falvey, in 1959 when he was 14.
[00:16:24]  Duterte said, quote, it was a case of fondling.
[00:16:27]  You know what?
[00:16:27]  He did during confession.
[00:16:28]  That's how we lost our innocence early.
[00:16:31]  Duterte claimed he was too afraid to file a complaint at the time, but he claims that Falvey abused several other boys as well.
[00:16:37]  And this is very likely true.
[00:16:39]  Falvey returned to the United States, I think, in the mid-50s after his time with Duterte and his classmates and set up shop on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, California, and was there for a couple of decades and allegedly abused a number of children in the United States.
[00:16:52]  Although none of this came out until he was already dead.
[00:16:55]  It's interesting that this guy is such a pile of shit that even someone who speaks out about his personal being sexually abused is still not a sympathetic character.
[00:17:07]  I mean, there's a claim to be made that maybe this guy's a worse person.

=== Duterte's Rough Childhood (04:40) ===

[00:17:10]  This may have contributed to some of why he is the way he is.
[00:17:13]  It certainly couldn't have helped.
[00:17:15]  No, no.
[00:17:16]  It certainly didn't make him a kinder person.
[00:17:18]  This was not a positive thing.
[00:17:20]  He has a major anti-Catholic bias.
[00:17:23]  And currently, with all the fucked up stuff his government's doing, the Catholic Church is fighting back against it, which in this case, I think they're right to be fighting against murdering people in the street.
[00:17:31]  But also, he's got a real good reason to be angry at the Catholic Church.
[00:17:36]  What a mess.
[00:17:37]  Yeah, it is a real mess.
[00:17:39]  So obviously, you know, it's hard to say how this abuse impacted adult President Duterte, but it undoubtedly had an impact on him as a child.
[00:17:47]  He repeatedly got in trouble for acting up in school.
[00:17:50]  On one occasion, he got in trouble for shooting rocks at a priest with a homemade catapult.
[00:17:54]  Now, it is possible that the writer who related this story meant a slingshot.
[00:18:02]  I didn't check up on that to see if that's slang because I want to believe that he fashioned a crude catapult.
[00:18:08]  Trebouche.
[00:18:09]  Yeah, Trebouche abuse.
[00:18:12]  That's.
[00:18:14]  Just imagine walking down.
[00:18:16]  What the fuck is that?
[00:18:21]  Oh my.
[00:18:22]  You have to have a team as well.
[00:18:23]  You have to have a team and you have to be very good at whittling.
[00:18:26]  That is a very funny word confusion.
[00:18:29]  Yeah.
[00:18:29]  I choose to believe that it was a catapult.
[00:18:31]  Right.
[00:18:32]  He also got in trouble for shooting at a priest who was in like an all-white outfit, some weird priest outfit with a water gun filled with ink.
[00:18:39]  He would know.
[00:18:39]  That was after Labor Day in his day.
[00:18:41]  Yeah.
[00:18:41]  Yeah.
[00:18:41]  It's cute.
[00:18:41]  It's cute.
[00:18:42]  This is fun so far.
[00:18:44]  Of course.
[00:18:44]  He was known to go truant for months at a time.
[00:18:47]  And of course, all of his acting out was punished brutally.
[00:18:49]  Rodrigo's mother, Soledad Roa Gonzalez, was a harsh disciplinarian.
[00:18:53]  She would flog him brutally for his misbehavior, like whipping him in the back and stuff.
[00:18:59]  She was also a teacher known for forcing her students to stand out in the tropical sun for long periods of time when they misbehaved.
[00:19:06]  Jesus.
[00:19:07]  He's got a rough childhood in a lot of ways.
[00:19:10]  He's also kind of a privileged kid in a lot of ways because Rodrigo's father was Vincent Duterte, a prominent politician who became the governor of the Davao province.
[00:19:19]  Now, Rodrigo and his three siblings grew up with a private cook, a driver, a boy, which I don't know.
[00:19:25]  That's how he's described as a boy.
[00:19:28]  So I assume that's like a little gopher or a runner or something, but just a kid in the house.
[00:19:36]  Just a child that we basically own.
[00:19:38]  Right.
[00:19:38]  That is a rich thing.
[00:19:41]  Yes, no.
[00:19:42]  You know, I was born with only one boy, but I've worked my ass off, and now we have six boys the house.
[00:19:49]  Oh boy.
[00:19:50]  Yeah.
[00:19:51]  Oh boy.
[00:19:51]  There we go.
[00:19:52]  He also had several bodyguards.
[00:19:54]  Rodrigo was even given a bodyguard of his own.
[00:19:56]  And since his parents were too busy to talk to him a lot of the time, the bodyguards who took care of Rodrigo did a lot of the raising.
[00:20:02]  Now, this next quote comes from a book called Rodrigo Duterte, Fire and Fury in the Philippines by Jonathan Miller, a British correspondent, foreign correspondent who spent years and years living in and reporting on Philippine politics.
[00:20:15]  Quote, he adopted the persona of a bugoy, the term for hoodlum in his local Bisaya language.
[00:20:20]  He developed what was to become a lifelong obsession with guns.
[00:20:24]  He drank and smoked and slept around.
[00:20:26]  Often he didn't come home at all, and if he did, he'd slip in at 4 a.m.
[00:20:29]  He became increasingly nocturnal and remains so to this day.
[00:20:32]  He holds press conferences that begin at 1 a.m.
[00:20:35]  He appears groggy when he has to attend a morning function.
[00:20:39]  Now, this is not that Duterte is a dictator because he's not quite yet, but this is a thing that you will run into in dictators all throughout history is they are all night owls, like history.
[00:20:48]  Interesting.
[00:20:49]  Stalin, Qaddafi, Saddam.
[00:20:51]  The list goes on and on and on.
[00:20:52]  Like, they all are famous for staying up really, really late and usually have trouble getting up in the morning.
[00:20:57]  They often are like watching movies late into the night and stuff.
[00:21:00]  Like, it's just kind of a dictator trope.
[00:21:02]  Interesting.
[00:21:03]  Yeah, I guess it makes sense because, like, yeah, no, I don't need all like, you know, the sun.
[00:21:08]  You know, like, just anything.
[00:21:09]  Not a lot of positive things happen at night after you get past a certain period of night.
[00:21:14]  It's like, no, I need to be up at four for all the wonderful things that happen at 4 a.m.
[00:21:18]  Oh, no.
[00:21:19]  See, it's very isolating.
[00:21:21]  Or are you like that?
[00:21:22]  I am like that.
[00:21:23]  I am like that.
[00:21:24]  But I think that there's probably like a reason.
[00:21:27]  If you're the kind of person who is awake more often at night than you are in the day, you have a different perspective than everybody else does.
[00:21:37]  And that's useful in a lot of things.
[00:21:38]  But one thing it may be useful in is if you're trying to like manipulate a political structure, maybe having that different perspective on things helps you do that.
[00:21:45]  Maybe the fact that these guys don't live in the same world as everyone else allows them to manipulate it better.

=== Missing Middle Class Crisis (03:22) ===

[00:21:51]  Yeah, no, that makes sense.
[00:21:52]  They wake up and they're like, why do these bats have feathers?
[00:21:55]  They just don't have a feathers.
[00:21:56]  Ah, the day bats.
[00:21:57]  These day bats.
[00:21:58]  These damn day bats.
[00:22:01]  Somebody get my boy to get rid of these day bats.
[00:22:05]  Well, that's the boy's job.
[00:22:06]  You found it.
[00:22:07]  That's his job.
[00:22:07]  That's his job.
[00:22:08]  Getting rid of the day bats.
[00:22:12]  Oh, what a lark.
[00:22:14]  Yeah.
[00:22:14]  So, Miller, the guy I just quoted who wrote Fire and Fury in the Philippines, that's a major source for this episode.
[00:22:20]  It's the first, I think, biography of Duterte that's been published, at least for like a world audience so far.
[00:22:27]  And it has a very clear anti-Duterte bias.
[00:22:31]  But the journalist writing it also has spent a lot of time talking to Rodrigo in person and a lot of figures in his life, his sisters and like other family members, people who knew him as kids.
[00:22:40]  So the book is pretty indispensable, even though it does have a clear bias.
[00:22:44]  He got a number of anecdotes about young Rodrigo.
[00:22:47]  One of them from his sister Jocelyn was about how when he was a teenager, Rodrigo would scare off her wannabe boyfriends by when they would come over to the house waving a gun at them.
[00:22:56]  Yeah, that'll do it.
[00:22:57]  That'll do it.
[00:22:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:59]  So this is what he's doing as like, you know, 14 or so.
[00:23:01]  Right.
[00:23:02]  Jesus.
[00:23:03]  Now, in 1965, when Duterte was 20, Ferdinand Marcos was elected president of the Philippines.
[00:23:08]  Do you know much about Marcos?
[00:23:10]  I don't, actually.
[00:23:10]  He was not a nice guy.
[00:23:11]  No.
[00:23:12]  No, no, no.
[00:23:13]  It just so happens that this was at a time when the economy had started to level off.
[00:23:17]  So Marcos comes to power in a time when sort of this 15-year boom is coming to an end and starting to reverse a little.
[00:23:24]  And with less money coming in, the problems inherent in the system that the Philippines had inherited from the United States became more evident.
[00:23:32]  I'm going to quote from the rise and fall of Ferdinand Marcos from the University of California Press.
[00:23:37]  Quote, the U.S.-style judicial system with an adversary process that emasculated the poor and complex procedures that endlessly delayed decisions could not cope with injustice and crime.
[00:23:46]  That doesn't sound no, yeah, yeah, that sounds old.
[00:23:49]  Private weapons were more widespread than in any country.
[00:23:52]  That doesn't sound familiar either.
[00:23:53]  And it was common for cars to be stopped and robbed in daylight on major streets.
[00:23:56]  The democratic patronage system inhibited removal of corruption and incompetent civil leaders.
[00:24:01]  Democracy directly inhibited measures designed to ameliorate some of the world's worst social inequality.
[00:24:06]  A Congress of elected landlords dragged its feet in passing land reform legislation and then funding it.
[00:24:11]  A series of presidents who were landholders, including Ferdinand Marcos, initially refused to spend land reform funds.
[00:24:17]  The landholders' lawyers defeated the valid claims of peasants who could afford no lawyers and exploited the complexity of U.S.-style court procedures to delay adverse judgments for a decade or more.
[00:24:26]  So basically, they handed the Philippines essentially the same sort of political system the U.S. has, but the Philippines did not have one of the things that we have as a buffer against the very rich, or at least we used to have, was a very large middle class.
[00:24:38]  And so these people could get in court and could make their cases heard.
[00:24:42]  And, you know, it's still stacked against them, but they had more political power.
[00:24:46]  Yeah, it wasn't just very poor people and then very rich people, which is what the Philippines inherited.
[00:24:51]  So the problems that are becoming more obvious of our system now in a time of increasing inequality in the United States were started to tear apart the Filipino national unity, you know, in the 1960s.
[00:25:04]  Right.
[00:25:04]  So that's essentially what's happening.
[00:25:05]  Yeah.
[00:25:05]  It was a fast-forward version of America.
[00:25:07]  Yeah.
[00:25:08]  Yeah.
[00:25:08]  Now they've passed us.
[00:25:10]  Like that's future.
[00:25:11]  They skipped right to the end.

=== Outsiders With Secrets (04:18) ===

[00:25:13]  Right.
[00:25:13]  So, right.
[00:25:14]  We're going to get to the rest of Marcos's term and what Rodrigo Duterte gets up to during that period of time and then his election as mayor of a city where he will murder people.
[00:25:26]  That's what he does.
[00:25:27]  Right.
[00:25:27]  Yeah.
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[00:27:04]  July 2003.
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[00:27:36]  And I could shoot you.
[00:27:39]  And an outsider with a secret.
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=== Law and Order Candidate (14:49) ===

[00:29:32]  You related to the Phantom at that point.
[00:29:35]  Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.
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[00:29:47]  Say you love me.
[00:29:49]  You know I.
[00:29:51]  So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
[00:30:01]  And we're back.
[00:30:03]  We're talking about Rodrigo Duterte and, well, actually, we're talking about Ferdinand Marcos, who just became president of the Philippines.
[00:30:10]  And we're going to talk about that and what Duterte's life was like.
[00:30:13]  In the narrative of this podcast.
[00:30:14]  In the narrative.
[00:30:15]  We're not breaking news.
[00:30:16]  He's not.
[00:30:16]  No.
[00:30:17]  No.
[00:30:18]  If this is news to you, you should read a little bit.
[00:30:24]  Why is this the first thing that you listen to after coming out of your coma?
[00:30:28]  Oh my God.
[00:30:30]  Shit.
[00:30:30]  What else?
[00:30:31]  A dictator in the Philippines.
[00:30:33]  I'm going back to sleep.
[00:30:35]  When I fell asleep in 1965, the economy was on fire.
[00:30:40]  So by the time Marcos' third term comes to an end, the Philippines is riddled with both, you know, increasing economic problems and also a lot more protesting and a lot of unrest.
[00:30:49]  Many people in the Philippines wanted to become a U.S. state rather than chart an independent course because they kind of had that right.
[00:30:55]  They were like, you can do your thing for a while, but like there will be ways you could potentially be a state if you wanted to.
[00:30:59]  And so there were a lot of people who were like, well, I mean, look at them.
[00:31:02]  They got all the money in nukes.
[00:31:04]  We should, let's just be part of that.
[00:31:05]  And then there were a lot of people being like, no, let's do our own thing.
[00:31:08]  Marcos, being a nationalist, decides he wants to take over and take more direct power over the country.
[00:31:14]  So he engineers a constitutional convention, which included a lot of reforms and was meant to transition the country away from U.S.-style democracy and towards a different system with like a prime minister that was supposed to fit better and, you know, have less of the inequalities.
[00:31:28]  The major sticking point came down to the fact that there had to be an interim period between these two constitutions.
[00:31:33]  And during this interim period, the head of state, Marcos, would occupy the offices of president and prime minister simultaneously.
[00:31:39]  So there was a debate over how long this interim period was going to be.
[00:31:43]  Most people you'd say, okay, maybe a couple of days while we, like, you know, do this thing.
[00:31:47]  He wanted it to be indefinitely long.
[00:31:49]  Yeah, you can see why he would want that.
[00:31:50]  Yeah, you can see why someone might want that.
[00:31:53]  So he instituted a scheme that sounds kind of like an InfoWars conspiracy theory.
[00:31:57]  I'm going to quote again from the rise and fall of Ferdinand Marcos.
[00:32:01]  One by one, the delegates to the convention were summoned by intelligence chief General Verr, who reviewed with them their various failures to pay taxes, occasions on which their security guards had killed people under dubious circumstances, and other misdeeds which, according to the general, the judicial system would, of course, have to confront unless the delegates saw fit to serve their nation by voting appropriately on the duration of the interim period.
[00:32:22]  The cream of the national political elite proved extraordinarily vulnerable to personal pressures and frequently valid accusations of felony.
[00:32:30]  So basically, everybody in power was so corrupt that when Marcos was like, I'll investigate you just a little bit if you don't vote with this, they were like, oh God, for my crimes.
[00:32:39]  There is a lot to find.
[00:32:40]  But learn where all the boys are buried.
[00:32:44]  All you need is a little bit.
[00:32:46]  Our whole career will come crashing down.
[00:32:48]  Yeah, and that was apparently everybody in Congress.
[00:32:50]  Right.
[00:32:51]  So, I mean, we laugh, but it's just politics, baby.
[00:32:56]  So, Marcos got their longer interim period.
[00:32:59]  And during that period, Marcos' government carried out a false flag attack on itself by shooting up the Minister of Defense's empty Mercedes-Benz.
[00:33:07]  This was announced as a communist assassination attempt.
[00:33:10]  The government also blew up several power pylons around Manila and blamed this as well on the commies.
[00:33:15]  They used the terror attacks that the government itself had carried out to justify implementing martial law in 1972.
[00:33:21]  So, this is the second time in our story martial law has been declared in the Philippines.
[00:33:25]  They're kind of getting used to it at this point.
[00:33:27]  It's a great kind of law.
[00:33:28]  If you're going to have a law, let it be martial.
[00:33:30]  Of course, I've always said that.
[00:33:31]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:32]  No, I went to law school and I, yeah, with an emphasis on martial law.
[00:33:35]  Yeah.
[00:33:36]  And it hasn't really come up yet.
[00:33:37]  I have really been out of work for quite some time.
[00:33:41]  See, what I'm imagining when I think of how that could be positive is just the instructor from the Karate Kid, just him enforcing all of the laws, which would legitimately be a better system than we have.
[00:33:53]  Or like the retail chain is that's their law, where there's just marshalls law.
[00:33:59]  You just throw clothes on the ground and then people buy something no one else would sell.
[00:34:03]  Exactly.
[00:34:04]  I guess that's a positive spin on it.
[00:34:07]  That might be worse, actually.
[00:34:08]  I mean, Marshall's law, like, if it's just law by the most discounted, you know, that might be what we have right now.
[00:34:17]  Oh, boy.
[00:34:18]  I should go to Marshall's.
[00:34:20]  I need a torn yoga mat.
[00:34:25]  I need a mug with the handle broken off.
[00:34:27]  Oh, and a partially opened bag of chips.
[00:34:30]  Yes.
[00:34:30]  Marshalls.
[00:34:31]  Marshalls.
[00:34:32]  We have it.
[00:34:34]  Probably.
[00:34:34]  There's no inventory system whatsoever.
[00:34:37]  There's no way to know what we have coming here and checking it out.
[00:34:41]  But we do have shelves with things on there.
[00:34:44]  Marshall's really taking some hits.
[00:34:46]  Yeah, good.
[00:34:46]  It's about time.
[00:34:48]  Part of the TJ Maxx lobby.
[00:34:50]  Yeah.
[00:34:50]  So, yeah, Marcos declares martial law justifying that they've got to fight the communists, even though there were only about 800 communist insurgents in the entire Philippines at that point.
[00:35:00]  But, you know, you're never going to let the facts get in the middle of a good martial law bench.
[00:35:04]  So around this time, Duterte had finished college and law school.
[00:35:07]  His bar exam was delayed because of the military takeover of the country, which is a good reason to delay a test.
[00:35:13]  Rodrigo actually wound up missing his graduation ceremony for a completely different reason.
[00:35:18]  He had ambushed and shot one of his fellow students to teach him a lesson.
[00:35:24]  Well, the guy had mocked him for being from the South.
[00:35:26]  And so Duterte had ambushed him and shot him, I think, several times.
[00:35:30]  But the guy did survive.
[00:35:32]  That is an institution of higher learning.
[00:35:34]  That is how you teach a lesson.
[00:35:35]  No.
[00:35:36]  We'll let you be a lawyer, but you don't get to come to graduation because you shot somebody.
[00:35:41]  Fine.
[00:35:42]  Yeah, that's a fair punishment.
[00:35:44]  Fucking rules.
[00:35:45]  Yeah.
[00:35:46]  So, Marcos ruled into the late 1980s.
[00:35:50]  While the CIA had backed his rivals at first, they eventually came around to the old lug and his communist slaughtering ways.
[00:35:56]  He and his wife, who stole an estimated $10 billion from the Philippines, enjoyed the strong support of the Reagan administration.
[00:36:03]  The New York Times says that Ronald, quote, genuinely cherished Ferdinand and his wife, Imelda.
[00:36:08]  Quote, in 1969, Governor and Miss Reagan visited Manila, where Imelda's opulent parties dazzled them.
[00:36:14]  From then on, Reagan, impressed by Marcos's exaggerated stories of his exploits as an anti-Japanese guerrilla, counted him among the world's freedom fighters in the struggle against communism.
[00:36:24]  In Reagan's eyes, one of his aides mused later, Marcos was, quote, a hero on a bubblegum card he had collected as a kid.
[00:36:31]  Amazing.
[00:36:32]  Yeah.
[00:36:33]  What kind of deck do those cards come in, by the way?
[00:36:36]  Oh, the fucking communist bubble cum card.
[00:36:40]  Oh, man.
[00:36:41]  Who else would be on those cards?
[00:36:42]  Like, of course, I mean, Joseph McCarthy is probably on there for sure.
[00:36:45]  Yeah.
[00:36:46]  Hitler?
[00:36:47]  Hitler?
[00:36:48]  Yeah, we can throw him on there.
[00:36:48]  Hitler killed some communists, that's for sure.
[00:36:51]  A rookie Hitler card.
[00:36:52]  Rookie Hitler card.
[00:36:54]  Where he's just got his bull whip and his shorts.
[00:36:57]  Yes.
[00:36:57]  Yeah, right.
[00:36:59]  I wonder what a Hitler rookie card's worth these days.
[00:37:02]  Hundreds.
[00:37:03]  Yeah.
[00:37:04]  So, yeah, one of the other people who helped out Marcos during sort of the late 80s when he was having increasing trouble over all of the people he was torturing tens of thousands of people.
[00:37:14]  How many years, sorry, is this into his indefinite?
[00:37:18]  It took 20 years.
[00:37:18]  He told about 20-some years.
[00:37:21]  Well, I mean, he only had about 14 years of martial law, from 72 to 86.
[00:37:25]  And during a good chunk of that, one of the people who represented him to the United States who tried to help get him additional funds from the government was a little fellow you might know called Paul Manafort.
[00:37:35]  And in fact, one of Manafort's employees flew with Marcos when he fled the mob that was taking over his palace and went to Hawaii to go die.
[00:37:44]  One of Manafort's employees flew with him on that flight.
[00:37:47]  So that's nice to know.
[00:37:49]  The Marcos regime proved unpopular.
[00:37:51]  They only held on to power through the application of brutal martial law.
[00:37:54]  More than 3,200 people were executed during his time in power, and more than 34,000 were tortured.
[00:38:00]  Victims included student activists like the 23-year-old Lily Halau, who edited a student newspaper critical of the Marcos regime.
[00:38:07]  She was forced to commit suicide by drinking muriatic acid.
[00:38:10]  Yeah, it's dark.
[00:38:11]  Is that suicide?
[00:38:12]  Yeah.
[00:38:14]  Yeah, because she was tortured and assaulted a bunch until she.
[00:38:17]  Oh, right, right, right.
[00:38:18]  Yeah.
[00:38:18]  Semantics.
[00:38:19]  Yeah.
[00:38:19]  During this period of martial law, a new drug entered use in the Philippines.
[00:38:23]  We know it as methamphetamine.
[00:38:25]  Now, prior to Spanish colonization, the Filipino people had had a fairly mild drug culture.
[00:38:30]  I think betel nut was one of the big things they'd used.
[00:38:32]  I think marijuana was around, but it wasn't super common.
[00:38:35]  If you say betel nut three times, it appears, just so you know.
[00:38:38]  That's just the juice.
[00:38:39]  Oh, fuck.
[00:38:40]  Okay, I'm sorry.
[00:38:40]  I'm just jumping.
[00:38:41]  I think what you spit out when you've been chewing it a lot.
[00:38:43]  You're right.
[00:38:44]  Okay.
[00:38:44]  Sorry.
[00:38:45]  I'm a square.
[00:38:45]  I don't know.
[00:38:48]  So prior to Spanish colonialism.
[00:38:50]  Yeah, they had a fairly minor drug culture with no evidence of serious addiction to anything.
[00:38:54]  Opium got to the Philippines during the Spanish colonial period because the East India Company would essentially drop it off during their trading.
[00:39:01]  But the Philippines would not have a real drug crisis until meth got its grips on the new nation.
[00:39:07]  I found one account from a Filipino writer who claims that he first became aware of the drug in 1981.
[00:39:12]  Quote, a neighbor excitedly asked, have you heard about the new drug in town called Japanese Coke?
[00:39:18]  It was called Japanese because the way they smoked it reminded people of a Japanese hotpot style dish, which they called a shabu-shabu dish.
[00:39:26]  So meth acquired the local name Shabu, and by the mid-1980s, it had grown quite popular among a certain set, although it was still fairly expensive at this point.
[00:39:34]  So Ferdinand Marcos was forced out of office in 1986 by the People Power Revolution.
[00:39:39]  The new president, Corazon Aquino, made Rodrigo Duterte the acting vice mayor of Davao City, the most populous city on the island of Mindano, and the third most populous city in the whole Philippines.
[00:39:49]  In 1988, he ran for election and won as mayor.
[00:39:52]  Now, by this point, Davao City was one of the most violent cities in the Philippines.
[00:39:56]  Duterte was elected as a law and order candidate.
[00:39:59]  He promised to stop street crime, combat the use of shabu and other drugs.
[00:40:04]  And he was pretty straight away a strict mayor.
[00:40:07]  He instituted a series of pretty harsh laws, including fines for jaywalking, a 10 p.m. curfew for all children, a 9 p.m. ban on karaoke, a ban on firecrackers, and a massive reduction in speed limits.
[00:40:19]  Rodrigo was known to patrol the streets himself on his own Harley-Davidson motorcycle, observing traffic and looking out for rule breakers.
[00:40:26]  So he's a hands-on kind of mayor.
[00:40:28]  Yeah.
[00:40:29]  Feet to the pedal, feet on the ground.
[00:40:32]  And by the way, the 10 o'clock curfew for children, by the way, was just people four years old and younger.
[00:40:37]  Yeah, no, no, no, no, I mean, you're before, you're an adult.
[00:40:40]  Right.
[00:40:40]  Yeah, no, you're that's nine-year-old adults can do whatever the hell they want.
[00:40:44]  Yeah.
[00:40:45]  Well, I mean, they'd better be getting to work at the factory.
[00:40:48]  Probably.
[00:40:48]  Yeah, right.
[00:40:49]  A factory that builds factories for smaller children to work in.
[00:40:52]  Yes.
[00:40:53]  I don't actually know if that's a.
[00:40:55]  It's a big part of the economy.
[00:40:56]  Yeah, we're still just riffing on U.S. policy from 1901.
[00:41:00]  Right, right.
[00:41:00]  Yeah.
[00:41:01]  So depending on your attitude towards jaywalking and karaoke, that may sound reasonable.
[00:41:05]  And in fact, I support an earlier curfew on anyone under 18.
[00:41:09]  I think they should be allowed out of the house from like 10 a.m. to like 2 p.m.
[00:41:13]  Yeah.
[00:41:13]  And locked indoors the rest of the time.
[00:41:15]  Right.
[00:41:16]  That's just harsh but fair.
[00:41:19]  I think we can all agree.
[00:41:21]  So yeah, a few years into his mayordom, Duterte, basically for the first close to a decade, he's a harsh mayor and institutes strict policies against petty crime, but he doesn't really seem to have a huge amount of focus on the drug war on the radar.
[00:41:34]  This becomes more of a thing in the mid-90s, and especially by the late 90s, 1998, he really starts to ramp up persecution of drug users and drug pushers.
[00:41:44]  And in fact, a few years into his mayordom in the mid-90s, Duterte established what's now known as the Devao Death Squad, which exists and existed to murder criminals.
[00:41:54]  Quote, during the seven terms of Mayor Duterte, the bodies of hundreds of street kids and petty criminals, as well as addicts and dealers of crystal meth, or shabu, as it is known in the Philippines, were found dumped in Davao's back streets.
[00:42:05]  Often their corpses were discovered with their faces wrapped in masking tape.
[00:42:08]  Their hands were tied and handwritten signs were hung around their necks.
[00:42:11]  Addict, pusher, thief.
[00:42:13]  The people of Davao City came to realize that these murders would all remain unsolved.
[00:42:17]  So, again, it's hard to say exactly when the Davao Death Squad became active.
[00:42:22]  By 1997, they were tied to around 65 deaths.
[00:42:26]  By 2015, they would be tied to well over a thousand deaths.
[00:42:29]  Jesus.
[00:42:30]  Was that their official title?
[00:42:32]  Like, did he call them the Devao Death Squad?
[00:42:35]  Everyone called them the Devaux Death Squad.
[00:42:37]  He would usually call them vigilantes, unknown vigilante killers, is usually how these guys are officially known.
[00:42:43]  And most of these victims were killed.
[00:42:45]  Their signature weapon was a.45-caliber handgun, which was, interestingly enough, the .45 ACP handgun, the Colt in 1911 that was used by the U.S. from like World War I, World War II, up until almost the modern day, I think in the 80s is when they switched over.
[00:43:00]  That was developed for the Philippines because before that, they were using a smaller bullet, and Filipino warriors were essentially so imposing that they felt like it didn't have enough stopping powers.
[00:43:10]  They needed a bigger round to clamp down on the insurgency.
[00:43:13]  So the.45 has a real significant reputation in the Philippines, and it has become now the gun of the mayor's death squad in Davao City.
[00:43:23]  So, interesting little bit of history there.
[00:43:25]  So, yeah, officially, the murders committed by the Davao Death Squad were the work of unknown vigilante killers, but the actual work was often done by off-duty police officers at the direct urging of Mayor Duterte.
[00:43:36]  Several of these killers have now come forward to confirm that Duterte organized the Devau Death Squad.
[00:43:42]  Rodrigo himself denies this sometimes.
[00:43:44]  On the TV show he hosted while mayor, also he hosted a television show while mayor called On the Masses.
[00:43:50]  He stated, They say I am the death squad.
[00:43:53]  True, that is true.
[00:43:57]  He's gone on to deny that again since and basically said, No, I was saying they say that I'm the death squad, and it's true that they say it.
[00:44:03]  Yes, but I'm not the death.
[00:44:05]  You have a death squad.
[00:44:07]  You do a death squad.
[00:44:08]  And he wants to brag about it so badly, too.
[00:44:10]  You know, like, how much does he love having a death squad?
[00:44:14]  I mean, who wouldn't want a death squad?
[00:44:16]  Yes.
[00:44:16]  I would love a death squad.
[00:44:18]  It would be incredible just to handle neighbors.

=== The Death Squad Debate (04:50) ===

[00:44:21]  Yeah, neighbors.
[00:44:22]  Drug addicts.
[00:44:23]  People who drive too slow or too fast.
[00:44:25]  Right, right.
[00:44:27]  Mostly those groups.
[00:44:28]  Yeah.
[00:44:30]  This goes without saying, but it is very interesting that his hatred for drug addicts and thieves goes way beyond his hatred for murdering.
[00:44:38]  Like he loves murder, but hates, which on the crime scale is obviously generally above.
[00:44:43]  Most of us would say.
[00:44:45]  Yeah.
[00:44:45]  Yeah.
[00:44:45]  It's very interesting.
[00:44:46]  We're just like, no, being dead is more noble than wasting the time that you're alive by being addicted to drugs.
[00:44:53]  Yeah.
[00:44:53]  And for a person who has rejected religion so thoroughly, that's a weirdly like almost fundamentalist religious sort of attitude to take towards drug use, which is interesting to me.
[00:45:04]  Very interesting.
[00:45:04]  I will say, if I had a death squad, I know who I would target first.
[00:45:08]  And there's, so I go running in a couple of days.
[00:45:10]  And we'll be right back.
[00:45:10]  We're going to have that for you in a moment.
[00:45:12]  That's not my job.
[00:45:13]  Well, there's a couple of neighborhoods I like to run in Santa Monica.
[00:45:16]  One of them, the speed limit in the neighborhood is 30 miles an hour, but people have put out signs that say, my kids live here.
[00:45:23]  Don't drive over 20.
[00:45:25]  With that yellow fucking thing with the fucking.
[00:45:27]  You don't get to make the speed limits just because you've got to, that's who I'd target trying to make the speed limits.
[00:45:33]  Oh, that sucks.
[00:45:34]  I know.
[00:45:34]  It's just so obnoxious.
[00:45:36]  What a rich person thing, too.
[00:45:38]  You don't get to make that choice.
[00:45:40]  Anyway, we'll be back not talking about people who want to have murdered by death squads.
[00:45:46]  But maybe.
[00:45:47]  But maybe.
[00:45:47]  We may not be done with that.
[00:45:48]  But maybe.
[00:45:49]  But I can guarantee who doesn't use death squads is the people who support this podcast with advertising.
[00:45:57]  No death squads are related to the operation of this podcast or its sponsors.
[00:46:03]  And we should have mentioned that earlier.
[00:46:05]  We should have mentioned that earlier.
[00:46:06]  Zero death squads, maybe one eventually.
[00:46:10]  All right.
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[00:48:09]  A charismatic politician.
[00:48:10]  You know, he just bent the rules all the time.
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[00:48:15]  And I could shoot you.
[00:48:18]  And an outsider with a secret.
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=== Double Tragedy of Power (15:54) ===

[00:49:11]  The cops didn't seem to care.
[00:49:13]  So they take matters into their own hands.
[00:49:16]  I said, oh, hell no.
[00:49:18]  I vowed I will be his last target.
[00:49:20]  He's going to get what he deserves.
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[00:49:43]  This week, an interview with one of the most influential figures in Silicon Valley, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
[00:49:50]  I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to products we put out in the world.
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[00:50:04]  From addiction to acceleration.
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[00:50:20]  What does the man who has extraordinary influence over our lives have to say about the weight of that responsibility?
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[00:50:42]  And we're back.
[00:50:43]  We are talking about the fact that my producer, Sophie, had a 70-year-old Catholic priest teach her how to use her phone, which from the Philippines.
[00:50:51]  From the Philippines.
[00:50:51]  That's how it came out.
[00:50:52]  Which is fascinating.
[00:50:53]  She's shaking her head.
[00:50:54]  We're not going to correct this.
[00:50:57]  Repair your phone.
[00:50:58]  Even more incredible.
[00:51:00]  What a strange thing for a priest to know how to do.
[00:51:02]  His business is called You Broke It, He Fixed It.
[00:51:05]  He is capitalized, obviously.
[00:51:09]  So, obviously, the main subject of this podcast is Rodrigo Duterte.
[00:51:13]  And as we've gotten to this, he's become the mayor, and he's kind of sort of definitely started a death squad.
[00:51:19]  So in 1998, which is the year that the death squad really ramps up its death squatting, Rodrigo's wife, Elizabeth, asks for an annulment of their marriage.
[00:51:27]  Now, this is interesting because you can't get divorced in the Philippines.
[00:51:31]  The Philippines is actually one of two nations on the planet.
[00:51:34]  The other is the Vatican, where divorce is illegal.
[00:51:37]  So, again, very Catholic.
[00:51:39]  Yes.
[00:51:39]  This will become more remarkable later because Duterte, oh, give it to him.
[00:51:44]  He doesn't give a fuck what people think about him.
[00:51:46]  He's quite a fellow.
[00:51:48]  So during this annulment, a clinical psychologist was asked to analyze Mayor Rodrigo Duterte.
[00:51:53]  She wrote, quote, he is suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder with aggressive features.
[00:52:00]  These features included, quote, his gross indifference, insensitivity, and self-centeredness, his grandiose sense of self and entitlement, his manipulative behaviors, his lies and his deceits, as well as his pervasive tendency to demean, humiliate others, and violate their rights and feelings.
[00:52:15]  So this is a clinical psychologist analyzing the mayor of DeVau.
[00:52:23]  Narcissistic personality disorder, which our regular listeners will notice.
[00:52:27]  Alex Jones, who we just did a big episode on, was also diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.
[00:52:32]  All your guests probably as well.
[00:52:34]  I think we all probably have it.
[00:52:36]  It's probably like Steve Borger Siege of Los Angeles, California.
[00:52:40]  Right.
[00:52:40]  So some of Mayor Duterte's most celebrated moments are clear evidence of all of these things.
[00:52:45]  His tendency to demean, humiliate, and violate other people's rights.
[00:52:48]  One of his signature efforts as mayor was an anti-smoking campaign meant to wipe cigarettes off the streets.
[00:52:53]  Sounds fine, right?
[00:52:54]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:52:54]  Yeah, cigarettes?
[00:52:55]  Bad.
[00:52:55]  You should be able to do it.
[00:52:56]  So that's probably the end of it, right?
[00:52:57]  The end of early population.
[00:52:58]  Probably the end of it.
[00:52:59]  Nothing ridiculous ever happened.
[00:53:01]  No, of course not.
[00:53:02]  Well, during this time, one of the most popular stories from Mayor Duterte's reign is that he spotted a tourist smoking outside.
[00:53:08]  He confronted the man, and the tourist refused to put out his cigarette.
[00:53:11]  So Duterte, quote, pulled out a snub-nosed 38 revolver and poked it at the man's crotch.
[00:53:16]  He said, I'll give you these choices.
[00:53:18]  I'll shoot your balls, send you to jail, or you eat your cigarette butt.
[00:53:22]  The tourist is said to have apologized before swallowing the cigarette butt.
[00:53:26]  Stories like this, whether or not they're true, are part of how Rodrigo earned the nickname Duterte Harry.
[00:53:31]  Because like dirty hairy.
[00:53:33]  Oh, I like that.
[00:53:33]  Exactly.
[00:53:34]  The Philippines, obviously, we owned them for a long time.
[00:53:36]  There's a mix of resentment because we did a lot of fucked up things to the Philippines, but also really deep love of American pop culture and music and stuff like that.
[00:53:44]  So people get a dirty hairy reference.
[00:53:48]  Yeah.
[00:53:48]  Anyway.
[00:53:49]  Funny.
[00:53:49]  They do.
[00:53:50]  Yeah.
[00:53:50]  Now, it is worth noting that there's some debate over the true nature of this story because when questioned about it, Duterte's spokesman said that, quote, as far as he knew, the mayor had never pointed a revolver at anyone.
[00:54:04]  Although he did specify a revolver.
[00:54:06]  Right, right.
[00:54:07]  That's interesting.
[00:54:08]  Yeah.
[00:54:09]  He didn't even say pistol.
[00:54:10]  He said a very specific type of handgun.
[00:54:14]  It's also worth noting, and a little bit familiar to our own politics, that the same night his spokesman said that this story was bullshit, Duterte turned up on television to confirm the anecdote and add that he had told the tourist, I will make both your balls explode.
[00:54:28]  So that's from the mayor now president's mouth.
[00:54:31]  He punched it up.
[00:54:32]  He's like, no, I didn't just say that.
[00:54:33]  I told him I'm going to blow his balls up if he doesn't eat a cigarette.
[00:54:37]  Let me add some imagery for you.
[00:54:39]  There are a lot of stories like this, according to Fire and Fury, in the Philippines.
[00:54:43]  Quote, and then there is the case of a man who was caught selling fake land titles.
[00:54:46]  Duterte forced him to eat them in front of TV cameras.
[00:54:49]  Reporters remember him instructing the cameraman to zoom in on him chewing.
[00:54:53]  So he's a character.
[00:54:59]  You can see why this guy got really popular because that's the kind of stories people love about a political figure is them being like, he's not just being tough.
[00:55:08]  He's like, oh, this tourist came in and thinks he can smoke in our city on the street and throw it a cigarette butt.
[00:55:13]  No, the mayor's going to make him eat it.
[00:55:14]  They're going to make him eat it.
[00:55:15]  And they made the other guy eat his land.
[00:55:16]  Like, it's very obsessed with making people eat their crimes.
[00:55:19]  Yeah, he devour your crimes.
[00:55:21]  It's not that big of a deal if you sell like a stolen pizza.
[00:55:24]  You know, it's like, oh, I made him eat his pizza.
[00:55:26]  Oh, fuck.
[00:55:26]  It was not that big of a deal.
[00:55:27]  Be a pizza thief in Devaux City.
[00:55:29]  That's the smart money.
[00:55:31]  That is the smart money.
[00:55:32]  In 2001, Rodrigo Duterte got on local television and read out the names of 500 people on his watch list.
[00:55:40]  Cash rewards were offered to citizens who could provide information on drug labs or dealers.
[00:55:44]  A few days after this, he sat down for an interview and was asked how he felt about being called the godfather of the Devao death squad.
[00:55:51]  He replied, quote, I don't give a damn.
[00:55:53]  I don't give a shit.
[00:55:54]  What I should do now is honor my commitment.
[00:55:56]  To be really truthful and honest about it, I would rather see criminals dead than innocent victims die, being killed senselessly.
[00:56:03]  Now, when he said those words, four of the people on his list had already been murdered.
[00:56:07]  17 more died before the article was published.
[00:56:10]  The victims were all either drug dealers or mobile phone pickpockets.
[00:56:13]  Four were children.
[00:56:14]  In less than three weeks, 26 people on the list had been killed, including, quote, marketplace vendors, construction workers, a housewife, and two members of a leftist political party.
[00:56:24]  Now, in 2003, June Paula, a shock jock radio guy in Davao City, made fun of Rodrigo's son Paolo for beating up a hotel security guard.
[00:56:33]  He repeated persistent rumors that Paolo was addicted himself to crystal meth.
[00:56:37]  This pissed Rodrigo Duterte off, and in September of that year, June Paula was ambushed and gunned down in the streets.
[00:56:44]  His murder is officially unsolved.
[00:56:46]  Although in February of 2017, Arturo Las Cañas confessed to having been a leading member of the Devao death squad and claimed under oath that he'd been paid $20,000 to murder this guy.
[00:56:56]  So.
[00:56:57]  Well, he's making jobs.
[00:56:58]  He's making jobs.
[00:56:59]  He's a job.
[00:57:00]  Yeah.
[00:57:00]  Exactly.
[00:57:01]  Las Cañas is able to feed his family off of the money he got murdering the radio personality for making fun of the fact that Rodrigo's son beat up a guy at a hotel.
[00:57:11]  Amazing.
[00:57:12]  Amazing.
[00:57:13]  He's.
[00:57:14]  Jesus.
[00:57:15]  He's quite the man.
[00:57:16]  Yeah.
[00:57:17]  So in Rodrigo's last year as mayor, he was nominated for the World Mayor Award, something that apparently exists.
[00:57:26]  Which is the opposite of local government, which is what a mayor is.
[00:57:31]  The executive of the World Mayor Award.
[00:57:34]  The worst mayor.
[00:57:36]  Yeah, I'm the best mayor in the world.
[00:57:37]  What are you talking about?
[00:57:38]  I don't even, I maybe like twice in my life have known the mayor of wherever it is I happen to live.
[00:57:42]  Yeah, it's hard.
[00:57:43]  Yeah, I mean, the only reason I knew it for a while in LA is because in the fucking elevators, you've got the mayor's name on like the little like the thing.
[00:57:50]  And so it's like, oh, okay.
[00:57:52]  It's the worst when it's the previous mayor.
[00:57:54]  And it's like, good God, it's coming up.
[00:57:55]  Good God.
[00:57:56]  The Schwarzenegger.
[00:57:57]  How old is the shit?
[00:58:00]  Ring the bell.
[00:58:01]  It doesn't work.
[00:58:04]  Oh, boy.
[00:58:04]  Yeah.
[00:58:05]  So he was nominated for the World Mayor Award.
[00:58:07]  He turned down the nomination, saying of his time in office, I did it not for my own glory, but because that was what the people expected me to do.
[00:58:15]  So that's some humility right there.
[00:58:17]  But the World Murder Award, he happily accepted and won.
[00:58:21]  He earned that World Murder Award.
[00:58:23]  It's an objective thing.
[00:58:24]  Yeah, of course.
[00:58:25]  It was all but a foregone conclusion that Rodrigo Duterte would run for president of the Philippines in 2016.
[00:58:31]  Eight months before he announced his candidacy, he did an interview with Esquire Philippines.
[00:58:36]  In it, he claimed to have first killed a man when he was 17 by maybe stabbing him to death in a drunken beach brawl.
[00:58:42]  But maybe not.
[00:58:44]  Maybe not.
[00:58:45]  Yeah, because he was drunk.
[00:58:46]  Right.
[00:58:47]  Yeah, who knows?
[00:58:48]  He self-admitted he was drunk when he probably stabbed a guy to death.
[00:58:50]  Right.
[00:58:51]  Yeah.
[00:58:52]  He did add, I have never in my life killed an innocent person.
[00:58:55]  So he was just saying, anyone I got into a drunken beach brawl has a fucking coming.
[00:59:00]  I'll tell you that much.
[00:59:01]  Who fights at the beach?
[00:59:03]  You know?
[00:59:03]  The fucking tire of Davao City.
[00:59:06]  And no president.
[00:59:08]  So, from 1998 to 2015, the Devao death squad killed more than 1,400 people by some estimates, including roughly 130 children.
[00:59:17]  Other estimates will say just like 1,100.
[00:59:20]  It's unclear the exact number, but somewhere between 1,000 and 1,400 is probably pretty fair for 1998 to 2015.
[00:59:27]  Also, a pat on the back to us for stopping the children age bit that we've been doing throughout the entire year.
[00:59:32]  The amount of self-discipline I've had to exercise to not keep that going is a lot.
[00:59:36]  It is one of those things when you read old books that give you a real insight into how different things were, was like what they included a child.
[00:59:42]  Because like in Germany in the 1800s, it was like, you're 12, you're old enough to work.
[00:59:47]  Like, get a job.
[00:59:49]  Yeah, or if they're talking about like a woman from like, you know, like back in that time, they're like, yeah, and she was eventually married at the age of 13.
[00:59:56]  Oh, it's sad when it takes that long.
[00:59:58]  Yeah, she was out to pasture, but then real spinster, 14 years old, real spinster.
[01:00:04]  She's got another, what, four?
[01:00:06]  Yeah, at most.
[01:00:07]  Yeah.
[01:00:08]  Oh, boy.
[01:00:10]  History is just a pile of nightmares wrapped up in a bereak.
[01:00:14]  A pile of shit.
[01:00:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:15]  Yeah.
[01:00:16]  Las Canyas, the hitman who later confessed to being one of the Davao Death Squad's leaders, says that his extra murdering money came from the combined wages of 10 to 12 ghost employees, which are fake government employees who existed just as money funnels for the mayor's murder team.
[01:00:30]  The salaries for countless ghost workers had been pooled into the mayor's intelligence fund, which had paid for all of the murders.
[01:00:36]  So, in case you were wondering, fiscally, how does this death squad work out?
[01:00:41]  There's a lot of data on the film.
[01:00:44]  It was a very fiscally responsible death squad.
[01:00:47]  Right.
[01:00:47]  They've got receipts.
[01:00:49]  They do.
[01:00:49]  Which is critical with a death squad.
[01:00:51]  Which is rare.
[01:00:52]  This is what people got onto the Nazis for: not enough receipts.
[01:00:56]  And now that's the Nazis were great at receipts.
[01:00:59]  I'm sure they had diligent.
[01:01:00]  They were really, really good at receipts.
[01:01:02]  So Las Canyas claimed to have been paid between $400 and $2,000 per execution, depending on the status of the target.
[01:01:08]  It's got to be a bummer if you and your friend get hit and he's a 2,000.
[01:01:12]  It's like, oh, God.
[01:01:13]  I know.
[01:01:14]  I know.
[01:01:14]  That would hurt more than the death.
[01:01:16]  I don't think my ego could take that.
[01:01:18]  No, no.
[01:01:18]  You just don't want to even ask.
[01:01:20]  Right.
[01:01:20]  Las Canyas also received a $2,000 monthly allowance that went on top of his police salary.
[01:01:26]  The money was paid by Sonny Buenaventura, the mayor's bodyguard.
[01:01:30]  Las Canias claims, quote, Duterte's office supplied everything: cars, guns, ammo, food, and money.
[01:01:36]  His hitmen were a mix of former Communist Party NPA assassins along with political.
[01:01:41]  Well, no, actually, Duterte is kind of a leftist.
[01:01:44]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:01:44]  I confused him with for the other guy, the previous.
[01:01:48]  Never mind.
[01:01:48]  Yeah, no, it is a little bit.
[01:01:50]  Like, and it's not even fair to call him a leftist.
[01:01:52]  He definitely has come to power as a socialist, but he's also more of a Duterteist than anything else.
[01:01:58]  It's tough to classify other than who he is, right?
[01:02:01]  But yeah, his hitmen were a mix of former Communist Party assassins along with police officers and, of course, run-of-the-mill contract killers.
[01:02:07]  Here's another quote from Fire and Fury in the Philippines.
[01:02:10]  The former NPA killers targeted glue sniffers and alleged petty thieves, while the police and their contractors went after bigger fish, kidnappers, and drug lords.
[01:02:18]  Las Cañas also confirmed the use of the Laud Quarry as an execution ground, and when questioned, said he could point to burial sites.
[01:02:24]  These included those of an entire family killed with a silenced .22-caliber pistol, a suspected kidnapper, his Muslim convert wife, who was seven months pregnant, their four-year-old son, her 70-year-old father, an elderly male relative, and the family maid.
[01:02:38]  Having abducted them from a neighboring town, the Davao death squad held them for hours in the building inside the quarry before their executions.
[01:02:44]  The personal belongings were removed and burned, including their wife's Quran, he said, adding that the bodies were then stripped and buried.
[01:02:50]  So their boy was spared.
[01:02:53]  Oh, yeah, no, no, because they fucking killed the maid and the four-year-old.
[01:02:57]  They're not going to spare the boy.
[01:02:58]  They would kill the boy, which is a shame.
[01:03:00]  Which, I mean, it's a double tragedy because that means this family didn't have a boy.
[01:03:03]  Yes.
[01:03:04]  So that's what we should take away from that.
[01:03:05]  That's what we should take away from it.
[01:03:07]  A classic double tragedy situation.
[01:03:10]  Oh, boy.
[01:03:12]  Gotcha.
[01:03:13]  You got yourself.
[01:03:14]  Yeah, I didn't expect this to be so focused on the boy, but.
[01:03:17]  Well, you booked the wrong person.
[01:03:20]  That was.
[01:03:22]  So Las Canas testified about all of this in 2017 when Duterte was actually president.
[01:03:28]  It didn't have a huge impact on his popularity as president, and it possibly wouldn't have made any difference at all if it had come out during the election itself.
[01:03:36]  Part of Rodrigo's appeal was that he's Duterte Harry.
[01:03:39]  He's the violent son of a bitch who doesn't play by the rules but gets results.
[01:03:43]  His detractors could point to an enormous pile of corpses, but all Duterte had to say is: look at DeVal.
[01:03:48]  I cleaned up one of the biggest cities in the Philippines.
[01:03:51]  And this is where it gets kind of tricky because it is true that overall crime has plummeted in DeVao City and across the island of Mindano.
[01:03:59]  This may not be due to Duterte.
[01:04:02]  The crime rate rose by 248% from 1999 to 2008.
[01:04:07]  Most of that was during his second term as mayor.
[01:04:10]  And while Davao City has seen massive drops in crime in the last couple of years, it remains the murder capital of the Philippines.
[01:04:16]  Its overall murder rate is fourth in the nation, so Davao is by no means the most dangerous city in the country, but it certainly is not an oasis of peace.
[01:04:24]  So basically, they've traded in less other crime, way more murder.
[01:04:28]  That's what you get with Rodrigo Duterte.
[01:04:30]  Yes.
[01:04:31]  Less stolen cell phones, more people gunned down on the street.
[01:04:34]  Right.
[01:04:35]  So.
[01:04:35]  Well, the less people there are, the less crime there is.
[01:04:38]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:04:39]  Whether they're committing crime, they can't be crimed upon because they're dead.
[01:04:42]  So even innocent people.
[01:04:43]  It's a double victory there.
[01:04:45]  Right.
[01:04:45]  That's efficient.
[01:04:46]  Yeah.
[01:04:46]  So on November 21st, 2015, Rodrigo Duterte announced that he was running to be president of the Philippines.
[01:04:52]  He called himself a socialist, but ideology was not really his focus.
[01:04:55]  Duterte ran as a populist who promised to take out the bad guys and be a tough guy, badass president.
[01:05:00]  Tough ass.
[01:05:02]  I like that.
[01:05:02]  A tough ass president.
[01:05:03]  A tough ass son of a bitch.

=== Murder Capital Reality (02:16) ===

[01:05:05]  I am your last card, he told a group of supporters at a rally.
[01:05:08]  I promise you I will get down and dirty just to get things done.
[01:05:12]  All of you who are into drugs, you sons of bitches, I will really kill you.
[01:05:15]  I have no patience.
[01:05:16]  I have no middle ground.
[01:05:17]  Either you kill me or I will kill you, idiots.
[01:05:20]  So one thing you can say for Rodrigo Duterte is that he was always remarkably honest with what his reign would bring to the Philippines.
[01:05:27]  He does sound like a drunk person at a bar or like about to get in a fight.
[01:05:30]  Like I'll fucking kill you.
[01:05:31]  I'll kill you.
[01:05:32]  Yeah, you kill me first, you idiots.
[01:05:34]  You know, because you don't come up with the most intelligent insult when you're in the moment, like about to be in a fight.
[01:05:39]  I'd imagine he's like a drunk guy in a fight with you, but trying to get you to vote for him.
[01:05:43]  Yeah, right, right, right.
[01:05:45]  But also he's handing the ballot the ballot over to you.
[01:05:49]  I'm going to fucking kill some people.
[01:05:50]  Yeah.
[01:05:51]  Vote from here just right there.
[01:05:52]  If you mark right there.
[01:05:53]  Yeah.
[01:05:54]  While campaigning, he would regularly lament the drug-dealing sons of whores who are destroying our children.
[01:05:59]  He promised to make the fish in Manila Bay fat with their flesh.
[01:06:02]  While most politicians in a democratic country run on promises of how they can improve lives and protect people, Duterte offered something else.
[01:06:10]  He may be the only politician to ever say, God will weep if I become president.
[01:06:15]  Amazing.
[01:06:16]  Yeah.
[01:06:17]  He is not a liar.
[01:06:19]  Not a liar.
[01:06:20]  Yeah.
[01:06:20]  No, no, not a liar.
[01:06:22]  He promised to make God cry with the amount of corpses.
[01:06:26]  He promised to fill the morgues.
[01:06:28]  Yeah.
[01:06:28]  Like, that's bold.
[01:06:30]  Promise to make his presidential.
[01:06:33]  There will be so many more corpses when I become president.
[01:06:37]  And by sons of whores, he meant popes, by the way, when he said that.
[01:06:40]  That's just his word for pope.
[01:06:42]  Yeah, that's just his word for pope.
[01:06:43]  Yeah.
[01:06:43]  Yeah.
[01:06:44]  Okay.
[01:06:44]  So that's part one.
[01:06:46]  Rodrigo Duterte, the mayor of Murder Town.
[01:06:49]  Part two will, of course, be Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Killippines, which I'm proud of.
[01:06:54]  Yes.
[01:06:55]  That really all came together.
[01:06:56]  Of course, seamlessly.
[01:06:58]  So you want to plug your pluggables?
[01:07:00]  Oh, yeah, please.
[01:07:02]  Stuffed Boy, actually, which is my newest album on iTunes.
[01:07:08]  My first album's up there to the Blake album.
[01:07:10]  And then there's another album I released with comedian Todd Glass where I saved voicemails from him for 12 years.
[01:07:16]  And we released it as an album.
[01:07:18]  It's called 12 Years of Voicemails from Todd Guys to Blake Wexler.

=== Blake Wexler Returns (03:29) ===

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[01:07:58]  Well, that'll do it for us for now.
[01:08:00]  We're going to get into part two about Rodrigo Duterte on Thursday.
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