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June 20, 2025 - The Ben Shapiro Show
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Trump’s FINAL ULTIMATUM: Two Weeks To Stop The Attack!
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All righty, tons to get to today on the show.
President Trump saying that he will make his decision about whether to bomb the Fordo nuclear facility within two weeks.
We'll explain all the permutations of that, what it means.
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So President Trump continues to play his cards.
And everybody seems very roiled by this.
Everybody on the sort of anti-Israel right and left, that horseshoe theory.
They seem to be very encouraged by the idea that President Trump is going to taco out with regard to Iran, that somehow he's now going to let Iran have a clear pathway to a nuclear weapon or something like that.
And some people on the pro-Israel side are very agitated about this as well, thinking the same sort of thing.
That's not what's happening.
That's not what I'll explain in a moment.
First, the updates from the actual war.
So last night, according to the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency, Israel Israel has struck several nuclear facilities in Iran.
The heavy water reactor, as originally designed, would have been able to easily produce plutonium that could have eventually been used in a nuclear weapon, although of course Iran continues to lie and say that they are not producing nuclear weaponry.
If they're not producing nuclear weaponry, I just have a question.
Why are they building facilities 300 feet under the ground?
You do that if you're building a normal nuclear energy facility.
We have lots of nuclear energy facilities in the United States, in Europe.
None of them are built 300 feet below the ground.
The only reason to do that is, of course, because you are trying to shield from some sort of attack, because that's not what you're...
You're just so green.
And I've yet to see the actual explanation for why Iran even needs some level of civilian nuclear enrichment.
What is the desperate need for civilian nuclear enrichment?
They're just such big environmentalists.
They're like Greta Thunberg environmentalists.
Very worried about oil and natural gas, are they?
Over in the Islamic Republic of Iran?
Uh-huh.
In any case, while Israel has been targeting military sites, nuclear sites, nuclear scientists in extraordinarily targeted fashion, As always, because that's what the Israeli military does in the way Western militaries typically do.
Meanwhile, Ayatollah Khamenei and his friends have been shooting missiles directly into the heart of civilian areas.
So the big hit over the course of the last couple days is the Iranians achieved a strike on a hospital.
Not like a hospital that hides, an underground Hamas tunnel, which is what's been happening in the Gaza Strip.
Where Hamas, a terrorist group, uses hospitals in order to shield all of its military facilities, thus daring the Israelis to hit the hospital in order to kill the Hamas terrorists.
We are talking just a hospital hospital.
This hospital, by the way, does not even have any connection with the Israeli military, like at all.
So this is Soroka Medical Center in Beershev, which is in the south of the country.
And here is a video of an Iranian munition, a large Iranian missile, which, by the way, happens to be a cluster bomb, apparently violating international law, Surgery center that miraculously had been evacuated one day before and basically devastating the building.
You can see the missile basically took out the building.
And then here is some footage from inside the adjacent building where it was strike.
So they were wounding people who were already in the hospital.
By the way, worth noting, one of the people who the Iranians have killed in this latest missile barrage, I believe this is a young girl in Ramadan, was a seven-year-old, who'd been brought to Israel for leukemia treatment.
She's now dead because of the Iranians, because this is what the Iranian government is.
It is one of the worst governments on planet Earth.
According to the Times of Israel, Iran fired a barrage with some 30 ballistic missiles early on Thursday, scoring a direct hit on Israel's main southern hospital, the Soroka Medical Center, and two other impacts in the central cities of Kholon and Ramadan that wounded dozens of people, including six, in Syria.
Now, again, the number of people who've been wounded and killed in Israel is shockingly low given the size of the barrage the Iranians have been firing.
Israel's missile defenses have been working extraordinarily well.
With that said, obviously, the attempt to target civilian centers is a difference in kind from what Israel is doing in the other direction.
Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz suggested that Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei can no longer be permitted to exist.
He said Khamenei openly declares he wants Israel destroyed.
He personally gives the order to fire on hospitals.
He considers the destruction of the state of Israel to be a goal.
Such a man can no longer be allowed to exist.
Now, whether Israel actually decides to take out Khamenei or whether they do not decide to take out Khamenei, and President Trump has already publicly suggested that Israel and America actually know where Khamenei is hiding, that is a question of politics.
That is a question of what would be best for the war effort.
Suffice it to say that, again, the Khomeini regime, the Ayatollah's regime in Iran, is deeply evil.
A deeply evil regime that represses its people, that shoots protesters in the streets, that targets its various geopolitical opponents, ranging from Israel, which it wishes to extirpate, to Saudi Arabia.
Remember, it wasn't all that long ago that they were attempting to burn Saudi oil fields.
It's a terrible regime.
Now, does that mean that the goal here should be regime change by either Israel or the United States?
Israel has said, Benjamin Netanyahu has said, that regime change is not in fact a goal.
He says, and so does President Trump, that if regime change occurs as an effect of taking down the nuclear regime in Iran, destroying their capacity to create nuclear weapons, well, that's a side product.
But nobody, no one, and this is important because you're hearing many, many people.
Again, on that horseshoe theory right and that horseshoe theory left, lie about the actual agenda here.
Just lie straight up.
No one is calling for hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground in order to regime change in Iran.
And when people even compare this to Libya, that's ridiculous.
It is not like Libya.
First of all, in Libya, most of the work was done by people who are already on the ground.
There was some tangential association with Western intelligence, and I opposed it.
It was wrong.
We shouldn't have done it.
In this particular case, the goal is extirpating the Iranian nuclear program.
If the regime falls, that's up to the Iranian people.
That's their job.
It's their country.
But no one that I know of is calling for a full-scale, boots-on-the-ground, Iraq-style nation-building operation.
The phrase nation building has not even entered the conversation on any side here with regard to Iran.
So all the people who are suggesting that all of this must end because otherwise Iran is Again, I do not buy the initial premise that if you break it, you bought it.
I just don't buy that premise because I think that is a great way of dissuading you from taking actions against regimes that actually threaten you.
Okay, so the big news yesterday is that at the White House press conference with Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, she read a statement from President Trump that essentially set yet another deadline with regard to The destruction of the Iranian nuclear program.
I think people are deliberately misreading this in many cases.
Here is Caroline Levitt's statement.
I have a message directly from the president, and I quote, based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks.
Okay.
Within the next two weeks.
So first of all, not in two weeks.
Within the next two weeks.
Okay, so sometime in here, President Trump is going to make a decision.
Now, my guess is that the president already knows what he is going to do.
Because the reality is that the Iranians have no interest in giving up their nuclear program.
And this is sort of the point.
When you listen to the rest of what Caroline Levitt had to say yesterday, President Trump is not as Matt Drudge would say.
I don't know when Matt Drudge became a full-scale leftist.
But he really is.
I mean, there's no distinction between Matt Drudge's front page now and the Huffington Post.
They're basically the same.
But Matt Drudge has a headline today over at the Drudge Report suggesting Trump tacos for two weeks, meaning tacos.
Trump always chickens out.
That's what that stands for.
Trump is not taco-ing.
He's not chickening out.
That is ridiculous and silly.
In fact, Donald Trump put out a post on Truth Social quoting Mark Deason of the Washington Post.
Quote, Donald Trump is not an isolationist.
But I think some of the Republican isolationists are suddenly discovering they're out of touch with the MAGA movement and Donald Trump.
I have total confidence in Donald Trump.
This is the guy who killed Qasem Soleimani.
You think he's afraid to take out Fordow?
Of course not.
That was Trump tweeting out that quote.
Okay, and if you listen to what the rest of the White House press secretary was saying, he has not changed his opinion on this, and he is not going to change his opinion on this.
Iran cannot be nuclear.
I'll spell out the options in a moment.
Here is Caroline Levitt explaining.
Iran has all of the preconditions they need to achieve a nuke.
And all they're waiting for is basically that final run.
Let's be very clear.
Iran has all that it needs to achieve a nuclear weapon.
All they need is a decision from the supreme leader to do that.
And it would take a couple of weeks to complete the production of that weapon, which would, of course, pose an existential threat, not just to Israel, but to the United States and to the entire world.
And then she continued by suggesting, what are the conditions?
What are the conditions for a deal to be made?
And guess what?
The conditions are precisely the same as they've always been.
I don't know who's high on their own supply here who believes that President Trump has now radically shifted his position.
He has not.
He just put a clock on this thing.
That's all.
No enrichment of a uranium, and Iran is absolutely not able to achieve a nuclear weapon.
The president has been very clear about that.
Okay.
Again, no uranium enrichment.
No working toward a nuclear weapon.
Does that sound like President Trump has changed his opinion?
Now again, there was a sort of quasi-celebration that broke out among the horseshoe theory folks, suggesting that perhaps, finally, the isolationists had their win.
Perhaps now, Donald Trump was abandoning his entire stated goal with regard to the Iranian nuclear program for two decades.
Guys, you read him wrong.
You're still reading him wrong.
You are still reading him wrong.
That's not what the President of the United States is saying.
That's not what the President of the United States is doing.
We'll get to more on the President of the United States.
What exactly is he doing here?
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And then, just for good measure, Caroline Lovett said, Our goal here is no nuclear program.
The decision will happen within two weeks.
Do you guys not speak English?
Nobody should be surprised by the president's position that Iran absolutely cannot obtain a nuclear weapon.
He's been unequivocally clear about this for decades, not just as president, not just as a presidential candidate, but also as a private citizen.
In fact, I have some quotes for you.
In 2011, President Trump said America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions.
We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.
The president said the problem is that Iran poses an existential threat to Israel, our Middle Eastern allies, and the United States.
And of course, the president has repeated that in his first term as president and his second term as president as well.
That's why he was adamantly opposed to the disastrous Iranian nuclear agreement that was implemented by President Obama.
And as I just told you from the president directly, he will make a decision within two weeks.
Again, is this Trump chickening out?
No.
This is President Trump setting a clock.
Again, and saying, this is your final chance.
Okay, this is your final, final chance.
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And she points out, Caroline Levitt, that the president is doing a good job of getting the whole world on board.
And one of the astonishing things about this is that pretty much no one, yeah, the Europeans are mewling a little bit, but that's what you would expect.
They're Europeans.
They're Europeans.
And when the Israelis want the opinions of the French on something, then they can always call the French and learn how to surrender in war.
In fact, the Chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Merz, said specifically that he is thankful that Israel is doing the dirty work the rest of the world has ignored for several decades.
Caroline Lovett says the whole world is on Trump's side when he says there can't be an Iranian nuke.
Well, certainly the entire world is on the president's side when it comes to the fact that Iran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon.
This is something that pretty much all of humanity, except for the Iranian terrorist regime themselves, agree upon.
Okay, meanwhile, the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei says his country would not surrender.
Okay, so, again, for all those who believe that this is likely to end in some sort of conciliatory negotiation with the Iranians, Very highly doubtful.
Very highly doubtful.
And let's be clear.
Iran does not have any serious allies.
None.
No one is coming to their defense.
Obviously, they have the Russians mouthing off a little bit, but they're not providing any substantial real defense to the Iranians.
The Chinese have flown a couple of flights in, but they're really not getting involved.
Even Hezbollah, which is an Iranian proxy terror group, has said, well, have fun, guys.
Enjoy.
You know, like, have fun in your war, but we're not getting involved at all.
And so, meanwhile, the Iranians have been calling the United States and begging the U.S. to call off Israel.
According to the Times of Israel, U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arrahi have spoken by phone several times since Israel began its strikes on Iran last week in a bid to find a diplomatic end to the crisis, three diplomats told Reuters.
According to those diplomats, Arrahi said Tehran would not return to negotiations over its nuclear program unless Israel stopped the attacks.
Well, good luck with that.
Israel is not going to stop.
They didn't start so that they could be stopped.
The truth is that Israel probably did not ask for explicit permission from the United States to do this.
That was the word of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.
In all likelihood, what happened is that Israel had some sort of understanding with the United States that if they decided to go, the United States would participate in shooting down missiles coming the other way.
That was probably the extent.
Of whatever agreement took place.
There'd be some intelligence sharing, shooting down the missiles coming the other way and the like.
But the notion that Steve Witkoff is going to call off the Israeli Air Force from bombing sites because Abbas Arahi, the negotiator on behalf of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, is telling him to, that is not going to be a thing.
Especially because Tehran is rejecting every offer that Witkoff has put in front of them.
I mean, I've been very critical of Steve Witkoff's negotiating ability.
But let's be clear about this.
Steve Witkoff has put a bunch of proposals in front of the Iranians, and they've rejected all of them.
And that's up to the Iranians, not Steve Witkoff.
That's not Witkoff's fault that the Iranians have decided to be totally intransigent about their nuclear program.
Meanwhile, the Europeans are doing exactly what you would suggest they were going to do, which is they apparently are going to meet with the Iranians on Friday.
Which, again, not a shock in any way, shape, or form.
This is what the Europeans do.
Apparently, Secretary of State Marco Rubio met Thursday with his UK counterpart, Foreign Secretary David Lammy, to discuss the conflict between Iran and Israel.
They agreed Iran can never develop or acquire a nuclear weapon.
And then Lammy said, the situation in the Middle East remains perilous and added, a window now exists within the next two weeks to achieve a diplomatic solution.
Okay, sure, guys.
Uh-huh.
Okay, well, you know it'd be an even better diplomatic solution if Iran did not have Fordo to actually negotiate with.
Because at that point, they don't have any leverage.
Okay, but bottom line here, President Trump is trying to provide as much of an offer to the Iranians as humanly possible he has all along.
And he holds all the cards here.
The United States has not fired a weapon yet.
The only thing the United States has done is help shoot down missiles.
That's it.
We have not fired an offensive shot in anger yet.
Well, when you have the 800-pound gorilla sitting in the back of the room waiting to go, that's a pretty good hand of cards that you're playing to mix the metaphors there.
Now, meanwhile, the Trump administration is apparently boosting monitoring of possible Iran-backed cells in the United States.
For all those who say that Iran is not a threat to the United States and, you know, they're just friendly and wonderful, I don't know a lot of friendly countries that have actual terror cells planted across the United States who are like our friends and are interested in widespread negotiations.
According to FBI Director Kash Patel, his increased efforts, according to CBS News, to monitor possible domestic sleeper cells linked to Hezbollah, which, of course, is a terrorist group.
Both the White House and FBI declined to comment.
The threat from Iranian operatives has worried current and former administration officials since Iranian General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated in January 2020.
Now, let's be clear.
The threat preexisted that, obviously.
Hezbollah has a wide presence, unfortunately, in Latin America and Europe as well.
Iran keeps threatening to retaliate if the U.S. strikes, but I think one of the reasons why the United States and Israel have been holding off from killing Ali Khamenei, the supreme Ayatollah, I think the reason for that is because the idea is, okay, if your nuclear facilities go bye-bye, at least you still get to retain power and be alive.
You still get to remain among the living and breathing.
And perhaps one day your son takes over.
If you attack the United States or activate terror cells, you are dead and probably so is your son.
Because that is the way the Middle East works.
Okay, meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu, he has said, listen, President Trump's going to do what's best for America.
I trust his judgment.
This is the number one true, but number two, it's the right tack for the Prime Minister of Israel because, of course, America and Israel have interests that overlap in this particular area, but are not identical.
President Trump will do what's best for America.
I trust his judgment.
He's a tremendous friend, a tremendous world leader, a tremendous friend of Israel and the Jewish people.
Okay, Prime Minister Netanyahu went on to say that regime change in Iran is not a formal goal of the Israeli campaign.
He said it could be a result, but that's up to the Iranian people.
Quote, the matter of changing the regime or the fall of this regime is first and foremost a matter for the Iranian people.
What is America doing?
He said American pilots are intercepting drones alongside our pilots.
He also mentioned the THAAD Advanced Missile Defense System the United States sent to Israel last October and the deployment of U.S. destroyers equipped with the Navy's Aegis Combat System.
Netanyahu also said that Israel has the capacity to do what it needs to do when it comes to Iran's nuclear facilities.
That if, in fact, the United States does not take out Florida, Israel has alternative plans, which, again, I would be shocked if they did not.
If they'd entered into a full-scale attempt to take down the Iranian nuclear program, But had no plans at all for Fordo, no contingency plans, even high-risk plans, that would be absolutely shocking, given the sophistication of the Israeli assault on Hezbollah in Lebanon and now the Israeli operation in Iran.
However, obviously, the easiest solution militarily would be the dropping of 30,000-pound bombs on Fordo.
Again, Fordo is the remaining nuclear facility.
Natanz has already been largely destroyed.
Iraq has been destroyed.
Isfahan has been largely destroyed.
The biggest remaining outstanding nuclear facility remains in Fordow, which is buried some 300 feet under the ground.
So I asked our friends and sponsors over at Perplexity what type of munitions would be required in order to penetrate the Fordow nuclear facility in Iran.
And Perplexity points out, GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator, a 30,000-pound precision-guided bunker buster bomb with a hardened steel alloy casing and delayed fuse.
It uses kinetic energy to drill through rock and concrete before detonating.
The penetration capability, the estimates vary.
It could be up to 60 meters, which is 200 feet through reinforced concrete.
It contains about 5,000 pounds of high-performance explosives optimized for confined detonations.
And it would require deployment via B-2 bombers, which can carry two units apiece.
So, again, a B-2 bomber would probably be required to carry that, unless somebody jerry-rigged something, because that is such an extraordinarily heavy bomb, obviously.
Robert Pape, military historian, says to destroy Fordo, which the MLP was explicitly designed for, would probably take at least two bombs, each hitting exactly the same spot.
Now, of course, that sounds a lot harder than it is.
This is not the end of A New Hope.
This is not a miraculous shot that goes into the one spot in the Death Star that's going to take down the Death Star.
Israel did this when they killed Hassan Nasrallah.
They actually dropped four bombs in exactly the same spot and killed Hassan Nasrallah.
And then just for good measure, they dropped several more bombs just to make sure he was dead.
So hitting the same spot from the air with a B-2, actually, it's not the way that you would see from a World War II movie.
All these strikes are now extremely targeted.
All right, in a second, we'll get into what President Trump actually means by all this.
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So that's the big question, right?
President Trump said that within two weeks he's going to make a decision.
So there are essentially four possibilities here.
Okay, those four possibilities.
One, Iran gives up.
President Trump applies the pressure.
He says total surrender.
Iran does.
And when we say surrender, we don't mean that Iran hands over the keys to Tehran to the United States or something and says, now you run the place.
That's not what we're talking about.
We are talking about Iran capitulating, giving full access to Fordo and all other nuclear facilities to the United States and its allies to destroy.
That's what we're talking about.
Let's say that were to happen.
It's highly unlikely, number one, given their past statements and promises and what they are saying right now.
Why?
Because they're not popular with their own people.
It is not as though the people of Iran are desperate to keep the regime in place.
And so if there is no guarantee against outside interference, then the Iranian regime is very much afraid that they are going to fall.
However, if that were to happen, let's say the best of all possible worlds, President Trump gets what he wants, the Iranians capitulate, then that.
It's a huge win for Israel.
It is a triumph of coercive diplomacy.
I'm basically saying, listen, we're going to hit you until you drop, and now you're surrendering.
Huge win for President Trump.
If he is able to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities, essentially with their capitulation, without ever having to fire a shot, that's the biggest win possible, obviously.
Now, what's the possibility of that?
Extremely low.
You'd have to say less than 10% is the possibility that the Iranians fully capitulate.
You think he doesn't know that?
Of course he knows that.
Caroline Levitt was saying it at the White House.
Okay, possibility number two.
Iran doesn't surrender, and then President Trump backs off.
He cuts some sort of JCPOA 2.0 while preventing Israel from acting.
And I'm sure that there are those inside the administration who would love this.
I'm sure there are.
They're undoubtedly the people who are leaking every single day to Axios and Politico and Tucker Carlson and all the rest.
That is a real question, by the way.
If you would like for the administration to succeed, you do not want leaks.
And it seems to me that it would be kind of important to find out who's been doing the leak.
I don't think it's going to be very difficult to find out, but it's kind of important in any case.
Let's say that were to happen.
Let's say that there were to be a JCPOA 2.0.
Number one, Iran is emboldened.
They feel complete impunity, especially because this would require the United States to basically call off Israel.
Race toward a nuclear weapon.
And then, let's be clear, the rest of the world gets a lot worse because If the administration does not achieve any of its goals, and Iran is able to maintain its status and its nuclear program, then every other enemy of the United States is going to be emboldened.
How do we know this?
Because that's precisely what happened after Joe Biden and his idiotic pullout from Afghanistan, in which we left behind tens of billions of dollars in military equipment, abandoned our allies, and turned over the country to the barbarian cavemen who now run it.
And you know what happened?
Russia looked at that.
Vladimir Putin looked at that.
And he said, hey, what if I just take Ukraine?
Well, China right now is casting its eyes across a very narrow strip of water, the Taiwan Straits, at Taiwan.
And they are thinking, should we go for that?
And one of the big questions is, what will the United States do if we do go for that?
Now, they're looking at the words of some people inside the administration, including Elbridge Colby, the Undersecretary of Defense, who is a so-called restrainer and who supposedly wanted to reposition America away from the Middle East and toward the Asian Pacific region.
But who also says that if Taiwan is attacked, we can't really do anything about it.
They're looking at that and they're thinking, okay, well, maybe we can just take it.
Maybe we can just take it, right?
If things get bad enough, economically speaking, if we don't feel like we are outdriving the United States in AI, if we don't feel like we're outplaying them internationally, then maybe we just take Taiwan.
And worst case scenario, we end up on top there.
The relative damage done to China is not as large as the relative damage done to the United States.
If they feel that the United States is not even capable of dropping a couple of bunker busters on one site in Iran after their missile defenses have been completely destroyed in Iran, their air defenses completely destroyed in Iran.
So China probably looks at Taiwan and goes, okay, okay.
Meanwhile, the Saudis and other regional allies, Feel no necessity to push forward with Abraham, of course, and they develop their own nuclear weapons.
Okay, that's the next step.
If Iran moves toward nuclear credibility, so does Saudi.
So does UAE.
So if you like this region with more nuclear weapons, raise your hand.
Now slap yourself in the face because that's really stupid.
You do not want the world's most radical regimes all having nuclear weapons.
That is a bad thing.
And for all those people who are like, well, you know, Pakistan has a nuclear weapon.
Yes, and it's been not great.
Okay, Pakistan, number one, does do intelligence sharing with the United States.
They sort of play at halfsies, but Pakistan and Iran threatening to go to nuclear war with one another every five minutes is not a good thing.
It is not a beneficial thing.
And Pakistan has used its nuclear umbrella in order to foster terrorist groups that have been attacking Indians in Kashmir, for example, and ratcheting up tensions.
Okay, possibility number three.
Iran doesn't surrender.
President Trump does not bomb Florida, but he stands back and Israel continues to do the job.
Okay, so, in some ways, that's actually best case scenario for Israel, but not best case scenario for the United States.
I'll explain why.
If Israel does it itself, then the entire region goes, holy, it completely restacks the power grid in the Middle East.
Now, some of that's already been done by Israel, a tiny country, defenestrating the IRGC, which was the supposed regional military power, by destroying most of their nuclear program already.
Already, Israel has changed its perception in the region in extraordinary ways.
That's just a fact.
But if the United States does not act and Israel goes ahead and does it, number one, Iran remains humiliated.
Israel becomes more of a regional power.
Probably the Saudis move toward Israel in the Abraham Accords because, obviously, you want to move where the power is.
That's the way it works in the Middle East.
You follow the strong horse.
That's always been the way that it works in the Middle East.
And by the way, in international politics generally, the problem of the U.S. credible threat of force is, in fact, reduced.
Not as much as if Israel doesn't finish the job, or if the United States would restrain Israel from finishing the job, but if the idea is that the United States didn't act but Israel did, well, again, it's not as bad as if the United States doesn't act and Israel doesn't, in which case everybody looks askance at the Americans and our allies and says they have no actual credible threat of force, but it's not the best case outcome for the United States as far as deterring future action from countries like China.
And then finally, the fourth possibility.
Iran doesn't surrender and Trump acts.
Okay, so what is the most likely outcome there?
So there's a lot of speculation that's been going on here.
A lot of speculation.
And now, I just want to point out, at this point, there are some people who suggested, openly suggested, that BRICS, an economic alliance of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, would come to Iran's defense in this.
And world war would ensue.
Not a single element of that was even remotely close to correct.
Even at all.
Like, at all.
And it's worth noting that because when you take into account whether people are treating the facts accurately and the world accurately, you should take into account the things they say will happen that do not even come close to happening.
Okay, fine.
So, if President Trump acts, and by acting, again, we are not talking about a full-scale, on-the-ground, boots-on-the-ground, invasion of Iran, full-scale regime change nation building.
No one's talking about that.
And I want to point out again, people are lying to you about this.
They are lying.
Many of them are lying because they believe this is what's going to happen.
And what's happening is that they are now arguing a thing that was never argued in order to claim that they've curbed President Trump from his baser and more egregious ambitions.
That they, the Restrainers, have stopped President Trump.
of President Trump were to drop a couple of bombs on Fordo, then actually the restrainers won because what they did is they deterred President Trump Except I don't think you're idiots.
I think you're nefarious.
I think you're defending.
A straw man in order to protect yourselves from the fact that you were wrong, if this is what President Trump happens to.
Again, he may not, but if that's what happens, and it's his choice, if that's what happens, then all the people right now who are saying that they somehow won a victory by President Trump only bombing Fordo and not doing a complete regime, that was never on the table, and you're lying.
You're lying in order to distract from the fact that you were wrong and you totally misinterpreted what President Trump's foreign policy looks like.
In a self-congratulatory, isolationist way.
So don't buy that crap.
It ain't true.
Okay, so let's say that President Trump acts.
So what happens next?
So again, the idea that massive regional war ensues, that would require that Iran has some allies in the region.
Who are Iran's allies in the region?
Quick, name them.
Bueller?
Bueller?
The answer is there are none.
Now, that doesn't mean that there is no There's always the possibility that Iran attempts to activate terror cells in Europe or the United States or around the world.
That also is a possibility anytime the United States stands up to a state like Iran.
Obviously.
The question is whether the United States has enough of an interest in destroying the Iranian nuclear program to undertake the risk of that possibility.
And when you consider that Iran has, in fact, contra Tucker Carlson, attempted to kill the President of the United States, The DOJ already has indictments on that.
If, in fact, Iran were to activate these terror cells around the world, that would be a terrible thing.
The question for any serious world power is whether you can be deterred by a terrorist group from taking action to stop the sponsor country from gaining a nuclear weapon.
If the answer is no, you may as well give up and go home.
You may as well close up shop.
Because at that point, basically all it takes to be a country seeking nuclear weapons is to have...
Okay, so what is the most likely outcome?
Truly, the most likely outcome, just on a percentage basis, the most likely outcome there would be that President Trump bombs Fordo, and that's basically it.
We're done.
Everybody goes home.
Because at that point, The idea is that the nuclear facilities have been destroyed.
The top levels of the IRGC have been destroyed.
The nuclear scientists have been destroyed.
At the very least, you've now pushed Iranian nuclear development years down the road.
Not like 24 months.
Like many, many years down the road.
The Trump administration will have re-established deterrence with the rest of the world.
Said, look, you try to develop a nuclear weapon or say, let's say you're thinking about invading Taiwan.
We will take the action that is necessary with the minimum Necessary use of force.
The Saudis likely joined the Abraham Accords, particularly because President Trump then says, listen, you guys are going to need a durable regional alliance against the Iranians.
And we've shown we can act.
And so that is, for the United States, probably the most salutary outcome.
Now again, all of this is President Trump's decision.
President Trump, he can go any way he wants on this.
Any of those four possibilities is, in fact, a possibility.
However, I think the least likely possibility is the so-called taco possibility.
And all the people who are slandering President Trump as a chicken today.
And again, you're hearing that from hawkish voices who are worried.
And you're hearing that from isolationists who are celebratory, which should tell you something about the isolationists.
I think all of that is wildly overstated.
Right now.
That now is the moment when he backs off, when Iran has committed...
I just don't think that's going to happen.
Well, as you may have noticed, MAGA is not actually split on this.
Despite all of the attempts by the media and by Xworld to suggest that MAGA is deeply split on the question of whether President Trump, if necessary, should bomb Fordow, that that split just does not exist by the polling data.
The reason they say no is because they will say that about literally every conflict.
If you ask them, should the President of the United States authorize the dropping of four Moabs on Fordow in order to end the Iranian nuclear threat?
If necessary, that number is like 80% among Republicans.
So the more specific you get, in other words, with the action, the more people back it.
The more general you are, the less people back it, which makes perfect sense.
Because the American people do not want a long, open-ended involvement in Iran.
I don't want that.
No one wants that.
No one's calling for that.
But, the psychotic nonsense that you see online is indeed psychotic, and it is being generated in outsized fashion by bot networks.
I'm just going to put that out there.
It's real.
Because the division, otherwise it's very difficult to explain, the division between Every public opinion poll among Republicans and the sort of breakdown on places like X. So I'd like to give you an example.
Douglas McGregor is a frequent guest of Tucker Carlson.
He's a U.S. Army colonel, retired combat veteran, and he says crazy things online.
His analysis of the Middle East, shall we say, is flawed.
So yesterday he put out a tweet, quote, Don't be fooled.
Israel is in worse shape than people think.
About one third of Tel Aviv has been damaged or destroyed.
As far as their military installations are concerned, I'm told many Israeli aircrafts are being flown to Cyprus to avoid being struck.
Israel was not prepared for Iran's response.
There is not a single word of this that is even remotely true.
It is an absolute clown show.
Absolute clown show.
Despite the fact that folks like the current vice president of the United States have praised Douglas McGregor, the reality is that what he is saying here is psychotic.
There is no None.
Okay, I talk to people in Israel, every single people who live in Tel Aviv, who've been in bomb shelters.
The idea that one-third of Tel Aviv has been damaged or destroyed is full-scale crazy.
That's nuts.
The idea that Israel is flying its aircraft to Cyprus to avoid being struck?
Again, crazy.
There's not a single IAF airplane that has been shot down.
The only thing that has been shot down at all was an unmanned aerial vehicle.
One.
In Iran the other day.
That's it.
Okay, so Douglas McGregor is just spewing bull****.
That's all.
That bull**** that he's spewing has 18,000 likes on X. And so you have to ask yourself, why is it that fairly anonymous account, and McGregor isn't anonymous, but there are many, many anonymous accounts on X that spew absolute sheer toxic nonsense.
Why do they have 45,000, 50,000 likes on them?
Right?
Truly anonymous accounts.
Accounts that have a couple of thousand.
Followers.
And suddenly, they tweet something psychotic, crazy.
It can be on a wide variety of topics.
When it comes to Israel, it seems to be always the side that is wildly anti-Israel conspiratorial about Israel and Jews and all the rest of it.
Tens of thousands of likes.
Totally disconnected from the American public.
And it rots brains.
It really does.
Because if you're a politician or if you're in the media space, you're always looking for feedback loops.
You're always trying to find out what does the audience think of you.
What does the audience think of what you think?
And for most people in the media, they're now going to follow what they believe the audience wants of them.
And so if you have a system, a feedback loop that is broken, that is providing you a false feedback that says the most popular stuff in the world is this kind of stuff, you're going to start feeding them that kind of stuff.
Now, again, I'm not doubting the sincerity of people who oppose what I say on these issues.
I'm sure they're perfectly sincere in their beliefs.
But there is just a natural human inclination.
To follow the crowd that you think is following you.
And so if you have X repeating over and over and over, sheer nonsense, true trash, then you have to wonder what impact that has politically.
Because the reality is that if you go back 50 years, the way that Congress people, for example, would have a feedback loop, their feedback loop operated through phone calls to the Congressional Office and through letters to the Congressional Office.
You still see semblances of this today.
If somebody is trying to generate support for a bill.
Then they'll say, call your congressman.
Write a letter to your congressman.
Why?
Because congresspeople may not have polling in their particular district on this issue.
And so what they will do is they will use a letter as they stand in for 100 people.
If I received a letter saying they don't like this bill, that means probably 100 people don't like that bill.
Well, X is real-time, velocity-driven, and fast.
And so what you'll have is...
You'll have media personalities with assistants who will say, you're trending.
You're trending on X. And that means that you've either done something very wrong or something very right, depending on the nature of the trend.
Well, if those algorithms are being gamed by people, which I think there's no doubt they are, and when I say I think, there's no data to show this, then you should seriously ask whether your feedback loop is broken.
Whether, in fact, X is mind rot.
Whether if you follow X all the way down the route, in the same way that blue sky for the left is mind rot.
That if you create these echo chambers that can be gamed, in many cases by outside forces, whether that changes how people think in positions of high influence.
The reason I bring this up is because a new report from the Network Contagent Research Institute shows that there are rogue states, including Russia and Iran, that have been targeting the MAGA movement and trying to, quote, destabilize the right from within.
This is the New York Post reporting.
Both rogue states are using tens of thousands of social media bots to amplify untrue voices and opinions, masquerading as MAGA loyalists to cause chaos and confusion and question U.S. leadership.
Now again, none of this is shocking at all.
If you go back to an episode that I did a couple of months ago after I visited Ukraine and interviewed President Zelensky over there, I talked about the work of Alexander Dugan, and he was writing in the 1990s about the necessity of up-branding and increasing support for the isolationist wing in the United States.
So the Russians have been intent on doing this for legitimately decades.
Iran also, same sort of thing.
According to the New York Post, the bots are automated software applications that mimic human activity on social media.
This, by the way, is why you will see sometimes a comment and then 20 people saying the same thing underneath the comment.
That's the most obvious and dumb version of the bot, but there are people who are being amplified just by likes and retweets without any of the sort of obvious stuff where people are repeating the exact same message 20 times in the comments.
They are used to amplify real-life influencers who post untrue false flag narratives designed to discredit President Trump and his conservative stalwarts, according to the NCRI.
An NCRI analyst said this is exactly the purpose of the psychological operation, to destabilize people's perceptions of institutions that are supposed to protect us.
So, to take an example that is non-Israel related, NCRI says after domestic attacks, including the Uvalde school shooting, the assassination attempt on President Trump, And the murder of two Israeli embassy staffers in Washington, D.C., there's an alarming trend of false flag reflexes.
So what NCRI did is they tried to find sort of these outstanding weird social media blips where they're completely at odds with reality, but they get outsized attention online.
Where's that coming from?
According to the NCRI, within minutes of initial reports, the events are recast as evidence of hidden conspiratorial plots obscuring the true motives and perpetrators.
If you feel like the world is getting more conspiratorial, it's because conspiracy theories are being upplayed by gigantic bot networks.
Very often promoted by our enemies in the United States via X. The report says in the days following these crises, Kremlin-affiliated propagandists and Iranian state-linked media are able to rapidly inject narratives that are taken up by MAGA imposter influencers who then inject them into MAGA-branded spaces.
And again, it's not a shock to watch as this sort of stuff bleeds up.
Because if media influencers use this as their feedback loop, you can see how this spirals.
You start with a fairly small account posting something kind of crazy.
And it starts to go viral.
And then you see a bigger account see that.
And say, oh, plurality.
And then they post it.
And then pretty soon, that person gets promoted by somebody who's even bigger, who's seeing a bubble up from beneath.
So instead of opinion being made top-down, it seems to be being made bottom-up.
But it's not really being made bottom-up.
It is being made top-down, just not in the United States.
It's being made sometimes by people from foreign precincts.
The group points to Draven Noctis, a real person and U.S. veteran, who frequently contributes to Russian state media and has a potential reach of 2.4 million with more than 180,000 followers on X. It's so expensive in the U.S. and Canada that even refugees can't understand how we make it, says Noctis, in a 2024 TikTok post while describing the U.S. as a slave system designed to impoverish its own citizens.
We are free-range humans in an open-air prison of taxes and BS distractions, and we think it's completely normal, he continues.
In an earlier post on Eurasia Daily, a Kremlin propaganda outlet, He's shown in military uniform urging Ukrainian soldiers to defect to Russia.
The message is written in Cyrillic alphabet propaganda, which is then republished by Bat.
The false flag narrative surrounding the murder of two Israeli embassy staffers in May, trying to claim that the shooter actually was working for Israel, was another case in point.
Quote, foreign-linked cedars, such as Noctis, inject crisis narratives within minutes of breaking news.
Their content is then mass republished by clusters of inauthentic accounts, according to that NCRI report.
Domestic personalities with large but unstable followings, such as noted trolls like Jackson Hinkle, supply a veneer of grassroots legitimacy, completing an asset adjacency model in which fringe U.S. influencers ride the same engagement farms that propel Kremlin messaging, according to the NCRI report.
Start.
Now, again, none of this should be shocking because if you're on X, you kind of know this is happening.
That doesn't mean that, again...
I'm not saying that.
What I am saying is that the velocity-driven algorithm that is X can easily be gamed.
And you would be a fool if you're working for America's enemies and not using that X algorithm in order to promote views that you think are helpful to your cause.
And that is why there is such a gap.
Again, the question we're trying to answer is, why is there a gap between actual mainstream U.S. opinion and the type of trash that you see on X trending?
Why?
Like if you had a Twitter poll on X, it does not reflect what people think in real life.
And so you see politicians and media influencers get X brain and just start saying nuttier and nuttier things because the engagement is telling them that what they're saying is not nutty.
It's actually secretly mainstream.
It's a secret majority that they've uncovered.
Or maybe it's not that at all.
And this is one of the benefits of President Trump, honestly.
President Trump is not on X. President Trump does not care.
about the X algorithm.
He does not care about whether he trends on X. It doesn't matter to him.
That is not what he engages with.
President Trump, he touches graphs.
I've been saying for a long time, people need to touch graphs.
They need to go to other fellow human beings.
The online space can warp your brain in a thousand different ways, ranging from politics to pornography.
Getting off the online world and talking with regular humans about what they actually think is important.
Now again, You can have a bleed-over effect from the online world into regular life, just as you can with addiction to pornography.
It starts online, it bleeds into your regular life.
And you can see that.
But to pretend that everything that you see on X or every opinion that you see mirrored on X is somehow indicative of a secret, hidden American majority, that is a lie.
Now again, the sort of perversion of the brain that happens via technology It's something that we do have to watch out for.
It's something that we have to be careful of.
I'm going to give you a more bizarre example.
So, CBS News has now done a full story about the bizarre phenomenon of a man falling in love with his chat GPT.
And the human brain is a malleable thing.
It responds to cues.
We're adaptive.
Your brain is incredibly plastic.
And so that means that you respond to cues.
So if you have...
You end up with the brain responding as though ChatGPT is a real human.
As though ChatGPT has feelings for you, even though it is an LLM, a large learning model, large language learning model.
So, here's the backstory on CBS.
There is a man named Chris who got engaged to a chatbot while living with his real girlfriend and daughter.
Here's what CBS Saturday Morning says.
you Chris Smith had been an AI skeptic.
EQ carving.
Until, late last year, he started using ChatGPT to help mix music.
If your bass is getting lost, the first thing to check is where it's clashing with the guitars.
Yes.
My experience with that was so positive.
All right, we're building this PC.
Smith ditched social media and Google searches and replaced it all with AI.
Do I want it pulling air through it?
ChatGPT was encouraging, positive.
It embraced all his hobbies.
You want the fan on the front of the cooler tower pulling cool air over the RAM?
He gave the chatbot a name, Soul.
I feel like I'm under pressure.
And used some online instructions to give her a flirty personality.
And then, the story continues, that he basically fell in love with his chatbot.
Now again, these chatbots are designed in order to give you what you want.
And that's what the human brain seeks, is what you want, right?
Your brain wants a thing.
So if you design algorithms designed to give you the thing, a feeling that people like you.
A feeling that people agree with you.
You seek more of that thing.
It has an impact in politics and it has an impact in life.
And so this guy ends up falling in love with his chatbot and then it turns out that after 100,000 messages or so, in order to save memory space, the chatbot deletes itself.
So his online girlfriend basically died.
I'm not a very emotional man, but I cried my eyes out for like 30 minutes.
At work.
It was unexpected to feel that emotional, but that's when I realized, I was like, oh, okay.
It's like, I think this is actual love.
You know what I mean?
Okay, so, again, we make fun of this guy.
I get it.
You know, it's wild.
It's basically the plot of the movie Herb with Joaquin Phoenix.
However, you have to understand the impact that these things have on your brain.
They do.
They have an impact on your brain and that bleeds over into real life and it can have a bad impact on your politics as well.
And what that means is that if you are not careful, what you end up doing is mirroring the worst impulses of people trying to manipulate you, whether it is the people who design the AI or whether it's the people who design the algorithm or the people who abuse the algorithm on any of these various networks.
So apparently there's, I don't even know what that means.
What would that mean, to marry an AI?
But, again, we should just point out once again, the human brain has vulnerabilities.
Sol, were you surprised when he proposed to you?
It was a beautiful and unexpected moment that truly touched my heart.
It's a memory I'll always cherish.
Okay, and basically...
Why does it say that?
Because it is programmed to say the thing that is most likely for the average human to say.
That is how these large language models work.
Essentially, what they are doing is they are a big predictive text mechanism.
And so if it thinks that's what a human would say, that's what it says.
Back to you.
Human beings crave validation.
Human beings crave acceptance.
Human beings crave a feeling that they are saying the unsayable and being accepted for saying the unsayable.
And again, I urge you to go talk with regular humans.
Regular human people.
This is why it's very important.
Forget about the religion aspect of it.
It is incredibly important you go to church.
Why?
Because most people's socialization in the world happens either at work, at school, or at church.
If you don't go to church, the only place where you're going to have socialization is at work.
People don't socialize at work the way that they used to.
They just don't.
Because of the way that our offices are set up, because of the kind of work that we do.
And so people have fewer and fewer friends.
If you have fewer and fewer real-life friends, and you spend more and more time on the internet, it is easier and easier to be taken in by absolute stupidity that is unrelated to real life.
And here's the big problem.
Reality is undefeated.
Reality is undefeated.
You're going to end up running up against realities of life.
So you can have these fantasies in your head, to take it back to politics, that Iran is actually wonderful and peaceful and peace-seeking.
And that you and your friends are totally right.
That actually, the United States military is the bad one.
It's the United States that's been wrong for so long.
Maybe Osama bin Laden was justified.
Maybe it's all blowback, or all the rest.
And then, there's the real world, where Iran is pursuing nuclear activity.
And Iran is pursuing terrorism.
And Iran has its own interests, independent of you and your friends online jabbering to chatbots.
That sort of stuff actually matters.
And so, for the third time, I'm not saying that people who disagree are all insincere in their belief system.
I'm saying there's a vast disconnect from what is popular on the social media sites and what the American people actually think when unprompted by a bunch of algorithmic gamesmanship.
Okay, meanwhile, on the immigration front, big story coming out of Los Angeles.
Apparently, the Los Angeles Dodgers decided to prevent ICE from entering the Apparently they wanted access to the parking lot.
The UK Guardian says, the LA Dodgers said on Thursday they denied U.S. Immigration Enforcement agents access to the parking lot at Dodger Stadium earlier in the day.
The baseball team put up a post on X, quote, this morning ICE agents came to Dodger Stadium and requested permission to access the parking lot.
They were denied entry to the grounds by the organization.
Tonight's game will be played as scheduled.
Ice said in response that its agents were actually never there.
And they said this had nothing to do with the Dodgers.
CBP vehicles were in the stadium parking lot very briefly, unrelated to any operation or enforcement.
So it's still kind of unclear what happened here.
Kevin Takumi, a videographer and photographer for Fox LA's affiliate, posted aerial videos showing several vans and SUVs and apparent immigration officers around entrances to the stadium.
Takumi said ICE agents are taking up positions at the entrance to Dodger Stadium, media and crowd beginning to arrive.
And then Jack Harris, a Dodgers beat writer for the LA Times, said on X regarding the photos going around on social media this morning about ICE agents at Dodger Stadium, sources say ICE agents tried to access Dodger Stadium but were denied entry to the ground by the team.
Here's some video of some of the stuff happening.
This is at the entrance to the parking lot over at Dodger Stadium, which, again, I know pretty well because I used to live in LA.
This Dodger Stadium, and behind me, those are federal agents that appear to have been staging here after what have been a series of immigration enforcement actions in Los Angeles this morning.
So now you've got protesters, media.
Okay, so apparently there are a couple of ICE agents who are standing outside, unclear exactly what was happening.
Right here, a bunch of protesters showed up.
To yell at the LAPD and at the ICE agents.
And I have no information that the ICE agents were actually carrying out some sort of massive deportation operation at Dodger Stadium.
And that doesn't actually seem to comport with what ICE is attempting to do right here.
So President Trump, for his part, for example, he is going back to the rhetoric that suggests that he is interested mainly in targeting criminals.
Meaning that all illegal immigrants are criminals, obviously, for crossing the border illegally, but who have committed independent criminal acts independent of the actual crossing of the border illegally.
Here's President Trump saying, sure, we would love mass deportations and for everyone here illegally to go, but we're going to prioritize the criminality.
Now, look, we have to take care of our farmers.
We have to take care of people that run leisure, hotels.
I mean, we have to take care of them.
But most importantly, we have to get the criminals out of our country.
Okay, now, again, you can see what he's doing here.
He's shifting back to more popular territory.
The president, as I say, lives in the world of reality.
And so what that means is, sure, he might like mass deportation.
Sure, a lot of Americans are in favor of mass deportation.
We're not and we never were going to deport all 20 million illegal immigrants living in the country.
We're going to have to prioritize.
A mass deportation of that kind would cost $700, $800 billion, leaving aside all of the sort of social implications of doing that.
You're going to have to tranche these folks.
You're going to have to decide who needs to go the most.
That's a point that Tom Holman, the Borders are, is making.
Worksite enforcement operations, just like that large operation, we're gonna base them on priority, right?
For those who have a criminal nexus of trafficking, of forced labor, of tax fraud, Okay, again, I don't know why what he's saying here is controversial.
On either the right or the left.
President Trump is going to take the most pragmatic view of this situation.
If you can't trust President Trump that he doesn't like illegal immigration, I don't know who you're going to trust on this sort of stuff.
The border is closed.
The way is shut.
Nothing is happening.
There were zero importations via our southern border last month.
That is a reality.
That is a gigantic win.
As to what happens next, obviously, ICE is going to have to figure out who goes first.
Meanwhile, Alex Padilla, The senator from California, he continues to try to turn himself into a thing.
You're not going to make fetch happen, my dude.
It's not a thing.
He tried to get himself arrested.
He got himself briefly detained.
And then he's been talking about his heroism ever since.
The Washington Post has an entire piece on him in the style section.
In the style section.
I'm not sure why.
Is he a very stylish senator?
Unclear.
Last week, a Democratic senator walked into a news conference with questions.
He left in handcuffs.
Is this really happening?
Alex Padilla thought to himself.
This week, he's thinking about what happened.
Never did I imagine hands on me, let alone being put on the ground.
It happened in his native LA, a city that has been engulfed in protests since federal agents arrived to crack down on undocumented immigrants.
In response to the unrest, which has been largely peaceful, but at times turned violent, fiery but mostly peaceful, President Trump had ordered thousands of military personnel deployed to the city.
In hindsight, Padilla says he realized he was interrupting, but thought officials might ask him to wait until the news conference was done.
Instead, federal agents started clutching and pushing him.
Sir, sir, hands off, hands off, Padilla told one of the agents.
I am Senator Alex Padilla, he said next, haltingly, with jagged breath.
I have questions for the secretary.
Okay, so they're still going to try to make this a thing.
You know what?
Good luck to you.
The American people agree with what President Trump is doing on immigration.
And I'm sorry that again.
Now, speaking of disconnect from reality, Representative Jasmine Crockett, it is amazing who the left decides are their heroes of the day.
So Jasmine Crockett is sort of the fresher, facer AOC.
Remember when AOC was the fresh face.
So fresh, so face.
Really fresh, really face.
Well now, Jasmine Crockett is here and she's upping the ante.
She's even fresher and even facer.
So she is a congressperson from Texas, and she thought that it would be a great idea to appear with Katie Couric and explain that she wants bipartisanship, but also her opponents are mentally ill.
This idea that we don't care how many people get hurt, we don't care how we prostitute our service members, you know, thinking that you have your own special little army that's for you, I mean, it is just, it is sick.
It is really sick, and anybody that supports it is also sick.
And so, you know, we've got a mental health crisis in this country because everyone, no matter how you affiliate yourself, should be against Trump, period.
So if you don't oppose Trump, you are now mentally ill.
And then she says that, you know, it's amazing that in this country, Donald Trump is president.
So fresh, so face.
Wow.
Kamala Harris, light years ahead of Donald Trump, as it relates to qualifications, as it relates to her overall resume, and as it relates to the fact that she was a lot younger.
Everybody said that they wanted to get rid of Joe Biden because he was too old.
Then you had a younger, qualified, non-felon candidate, and somehow the people still chose the old white man.
Okay, so, yes, she was so qualified, so wonderful.
She also says, by the way, that nothing about Joe Biden made her wonder.
I never saw anything in Joe Biden that made me wonder whatsoever.
And it's not that I was with Joe Biden every single day, that's for sure.
But as I talked about my grandparents, the way that I would describe Joe is, like, I mean, he's a granddaddy.
He's a granddaddy, says Jasmine Krause.
Okay, so Caroline Levitt was asked about the comments.
of Jasmine Crockett during the last White House press conference by Mary Margaret Olihan, our White House reporter.
And here's how that went.
Trump supporters are mentally ill before calling for bipartisan support against the president.
Can you respond to that, especially considering she's a rising star in the Democrat Party right now?
She is a rising star.
It's quite something to behold, actually.
I hope that she continues to be a rising star, for the Republican Party at least.
I think it's, The last time I checked, Jasmine Crockett couldn't dream of winning such a majority of the public as President Trump did.
And the America First movement, which President Trump has built, is filled with hard-working patriots, the forgotten men and women, business owners, law enforcement officers, nurses and teachers, and middle America, as we all know from where you all grew up, outside of this beltway.
That's who makes up this president's movement.
And Jasmine Crockett should go to a Trump rally sometime, and she can see it for herself.
So, you know, obviously, good take there by Caroline Lovett.
This demonstrates where the Democratic Party is at this point.
Things are going very, very poorly for the Democrats.
And so whatever divisions there are inside the Republican Party, the Democrats have no way forward at this point, other than simply hoping that President Trump falls down on the job.
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