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June 21, 2024 - The Ben Shapiro Show
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Well, folks, we're less than one week away from a massive, important political debate.
This rarely happens.
Usually, the debates don't change the direction of a presidential race.
Typically, you have a pretty strong frontrunner and somebody who's running pretty well behind.
Or you have a race where the debates don't matter all that much because it's basically incoherence all the way around.
In this case, the race is so extraordinarily tight, the debate is going to matter an awful lot.
There are very few inflection points in this race, or possible inflection points.
The conventions will not be inflection points, for example.
This debate could be an inflection point.
The other big inflection point, obviously, could be the possibility of Donald Trump having to serve jail time in the middle of the election cycle.
We're not going to find that out until the middle of July.
And then the third possible inflection point is a health crisis involving Joe Biden.
And we're not going to know anything about what happens with those latter two until they actually happen.
But the thing we know is going to happen is this debate.
And make no mistake, this race is extraordinarily tight.
Really, really, really tight.
The fact is that the state-level polls that we've been seeing have not been updated, many of them, since May.
Most of them are within the margin of error.
The national polling is all within the margin of error.
And so this race could really go either way.
I know there are a lot of Republicans who are pretty sanguine about the possibility of Trump winning re-election over Biden because they look at Biden and they say, how can anyone vote for that guy?
And there are a lot of Biden voters who are pretty sanguine about the possibility of Biden beating Trump because they think, how can anybody vote for that guy?
And then there's a huge chunk of the American population that goes, Why are either of these guys on the stage?
But that's not what matters.
What matters is that in this debate, we are going to get a pretty clear picture of the future trajectory of this race.
And I would say at this point that much more revolves around Trump's performance than revolves around Biden's performance.
In other words, Trump has much more to lose in this debate than Joe Biden.
Everyone perceives Joe Biden for what he is.
A bad president, who's terrible at his job, who's extremely old, who may not be mentally all there.
But he can surpass expectations because of that.
All Joe Biden has to do is show up, Speak even somewhat coherently and not literally fall over.
And the expectations bar has been set so low by the Trump campaign in the media that that will then be deemed a big Biden win.
For Trump, he has to buck a bunch of factors.
He has to buck the fact that the moderators hate his guts and want him not to be reelected.
They think he is an actual Hitlerian figure.
He has to buck the fact that there's no audience in the room.
Donald Trump thrives on audience.
He responds to the audience.
The fact that it's going to be a quiet studio is going to be a problem for him.
The fact that the mics are muted?
Some people think that might help Trump because it'll prevent him from talking over Biden, but I think Trump probably learned his lesson from the first debate in the last election cycle.
The problem with the mics being muted is that Trump can't jump in and get in these sort of quick quips that he famously used against Hillary Clinton.
Like the one where he suggested if you're president you should go to jail, right?
It's a very famous quip that he used in 2016.
So there are a lot of factors that are stacked against Trump here.
And the biggest factor that is stacked against Trump is Trump himself.
Because obviously, Trump's tendency is to go extremely hard and extremely aggressive to defend everything he has ever done.
And in reality, what he needs to be here is cool and calm and collected and meticulous in his attack on Joe Biden's presidency.
Because if this is a referendum on Joe Biden's presidency, Joe Biden loses.
And if this is a referendum on Donald Trump's character and his foibles, then probably Trump loses.
So, the new polling suggests, again, a slight shift in the national polling toward Joe Biden, presumably since Trump's criminal conviction.
It is all within the margin of error, so it is not just positive by any stretch of the imagination.
Democrats are making a big deal out of a new Fox News poll that shows a three-point change from the last poll.
Again, this is all within margin of error.
So, back in March, Trump was leading Biden in the Fox News poll 50-45.
In May, he was leading 49-48, which is effectively a dead heat.
And today, Biden is leading 50-48, which again, is effectively a dead heat because the margin of error in this poll is larger than the margin of Joe Biden's lead.
However, that has been mirrored by some other polls.
A 538 national average now has Joe Biden like 0.1 ahead of Donald Trump.
Now, that doesn't really matter so much because that's going to be the popular vote.
And in reality, Donald Trump lost the popular vote in the last election cycle by 7 million, and then he barely, barely, barely lost the election by a handful of votes in a handful of states.
So the swing states matter a lot more, but the polling in the swing states has been fairly erratic.
There's not tons of polling in the swing states right now.
We'll get to more on this in just one second.
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So if you take, for example, the polling in Wisconsin, the last polling that was done in Wisconsin was a poll from the Hill Emerson.
That one just came out and it shows Trump up three points in Wisconsin.
But before that, the last polling was in like mid-May from Morning Consult.
So just aren't that many polls in these swing states, so that means you have to take everything with a bit of a grain of salt.
The same thing is true when you look at Michigan.
The Hill Emerson currently has Donald Trump up one in Michigan, which again is well within the margin of error.
The prior polls are from early June that have it tied Or from May, where you variously have Trump up or down.
In other words, every single state is shaking out as some sort of dead heat.
Now, do I think that that's realistic?
I actually don't.
I think one of the things that's happening is that pollsters, in a frenzy not to be caught out, are following each other.
Because it turns out that when you compose your sample, one of the things that you do is you try to figure out exactly who is going to vote and who's not.
It's not exact science.
There's a little bit of an art to how you construct your polling sample.
Who gets polled?
Who's considered a likely voter versus who's considered just a registered voter?
Now, all of these are serious questions.
What is the electorate going to look like?
No one knows what the electorate is going to look like.
Is it going to look like the 2000 electorate?
The 2004?
2008?
2012?
2016?
Like, all of those electorates are slightly different in terms of turnout picture.
So what that means is that I think what you're seeing is some grouping.
I think you're seeing a lot of the pollsters who are following each other because they don't want to appear outside the pack.
You don't want to see a poll with your name on it that has Joe Biden up 7 in Michigan or something.
Because that's going to appear an outlier and then you're going to get bashed around the clock for being an outlier poll.
The one thing that is consistent in some of these national polls is a bit of a shift among independents from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
So in this Fox News poll, Biden receives the backing of 73% of black voters, which is a terrible number for Joe Biden.
Trump is doing well among men, plus 15.
Rural voters, plus 17.
White men without a degree, plus 30.
And white evangelical Christians, plus 46.
Joe Biden is showing surprisingly strong among older voters, above age 65.
Maybe because he is perceived as sort of that cohort in a way that Trump isn't.
Plus 15.
He's up 17 with women.
I mean, one of the untold stories of American politics, and frankly, American society, is this vast political gap that is emerging between men and single women, particularly in the United States.
And it has some pretty severe social ramifications.
Also, obviously, he's leading with white women with a college degree.
That's kind of Joe Biden's coalition.
But the important thing in this survey is that independents now favor Joe Biden by nine points.
That is a shift from May when they favor Trump by two.
That's an 11 point shift away from Trump toward Biden among independents, which is a little bit disquieting for the Trump campaign.
Now, again, you can look at the new Emerson poll and you can suddenly see some good news for Trump.
According to the Emerson poll, and to be fair, Emerson College's poll is considered a bit of an outlier.
It has Trump up four in Arizona, four in Georgia, one in Michigan, tied in Minnesota, which is crazy.
Trump up three in Nevada, Trump up two in Pennsylvania, and Trump up three in Wisconsin.
So leading in all the swing states.
And there's a New York Times article out today talking about how Biden's lead with women is smaller than Trump's with men, and that's a warning for Democrats.
According to Ruth Aguilnick, who covers polling for the New York Times, She says, Mr. Biden's lead among women has slid to about 8 percentage points since the 2020 election, according to an average of more than 30 polls conducted over the last six months and compiled by the New York Times.
That's down from a lead among women of about 13 percentage points four years ago.
Meanwhile, since the 2020 election, former President Donald Trump's support among men has recovered and is back to double-digit leads that he had in 2016.
Biden's drop in support has been particularly pronounced among Black and Hispanic women.
So those white college-educated lefties, they're still voting for Joe Biden.
But there are a lot of Black and Hispanic women who are not so enamored of Joe Biden.
Furthermore, new polling data, as reported by Axios and Equus Poll, found, it's a poll of almost 1,600 registered Latino voters in seven battleground states, and it found that 41% of Hispanic voters trust Trump on immigration compared to 38% for Joe Biden.
So those are terrible numbers, obviously, for Joe Biden.
I guess what I'm saying here is anybody who is telling you they know definitively who is going to be president right now is lying to you.
Anybody who even says that one candidate over the other is heavily favored to be president at this point is lying to you.
Donald Trump has a lot of entrenched problems about him.
Joe Biden has a lot of entrenched problems about him.
Now, it seems to me that there are only two things that sort of exogenously could affect the race.
As opposed to, you know, the sort of criminal conviction stuff or in a health event.
In terms of general world politics, only a few things could affect the race.
One would be if the American people start to perceive that the economy is doing better.
If they start to perceive the economy is doing well, maybe see some of them lighten up on Biden and shift back into Biden's camp.
The other is, if there's a major international conflagration or a serious attack on American soil, that's going to cut very much in Trump's favor because it's going to expose the weakness of Joe Biden's foreign policy.
Meanwhile, in terms of the actual debate itself, RFK has now officially failed to qualify for the debate, so he will not be on the stage, despite the fact that in most of the polling, he's currently averaging about 10% in the polls, which is the best third party showing for any candidate since Ross Perot.
CNN posted the announcement shortly after midnight on Thursday morning, saying that Biden and Trump were heading for a historic showdown with the stage now set for their June 27th meeting.
The debate qualification window is closed.
Kennedy was not on enough ballots in order to be allowed into the debate.
The polling threshold required a candidate to receive at least 15% support in four separate national qualified polls of registered or likely voters.
He did not have that.
He only had three.
And he was on less than a third of the ballots in the various states that you would need in order to participate in the actual race.
I mean, it's worth noting at this point that the only states where he's officially on the ballot at this point are California, Delaware, Hawaii, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Utah.
Literally, the only state there that's a swing state in any way, shape, or form is Michigan.
So, how are the two candidates prepping for the debate?
Well, Joe Biden is doing what he traditionally does.
He's gonna head on up to Camp David.
He's going to hunker down there.
He's gonna drink some Ensure.
He's gonna get big sleep.
He's gonna order in from Denny's, watch some Matlock.
Apparently, according to ABC News, the famous rustic retreat in the Maryland mountains has hosted many debate boot camps during election years.
Biden hopes to make the most of its secluded setting in the days before heading to the June 27th debate hosted by CNN in Atlanta.
The campaign said Biden is preparing ways to hold Trump accountable on the debate stage for his track record and remarks he has made on topics from reproductive rights to the economy, including his comment that he will be a dictator on day one.
The Biden is preparing for all scenarios.
Some Biden advisors said they believe Trump will be a more disciplined version of himself on stage.
Sources familiar with Biden's team's planning also said they believe Trump is preparing more than he's letting on, which would make sense considering that he's not letting on that he's preparing at all.
The Trump team is saying that he's not even prepping for the debate, which of course I don't think is true.
So meanwhile, I guess it's Ron Klain who's going to be leading the sort of debate prep.
We'll see how that works out for him.
Other senior campaign aides and longtime advisors, including Cedric Richmond, will also be on hand apparently.
Klain led Hillary's prep in 2016, Obama's in 28 in 2012, and Kerry's in 2004.
So that's a pretty mixed record for Ron Klain in terms of debate prep.
And meanwhile, Donald Trump has been talking about how exactly he is prepping.
And apparently he says that he is not really going to be doing prep sessions in the same ways.
According to CNN, some of his debate prep is focused less on policy and more on rhetoric.
Trump has previously struggled with policy debates, instead preferring to meander and generalize, especially without a teleprompter.
I love that this is CNN.
This is the actual network that's going to be holding the debate.
They're saying that Trump meanders and wanders.
Have you met Joe Biden?
That dude has never met a straightforward sentence.
His sentences are nigh Melvillian.
I mean, they're all over the damn place.
Trying to follow Joe Biden's line of thought is like, it's like trying to solve an MC Escher puzzle.
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Nonetheless, CNN, again, this is what Trump is up against.
He's up against the moderators for sure.
Apparently, he is going to be prepping by having some sort of policy meetings According to CNN, he has deployed the help of some of his top contenders for VP, as well as senators, policy experts, and outside allies to help brief him ahead of next week's debate.
Apparently, he has participated in roughly a dozen of these private meetings, dubbed as informal policy discussions by his campaign.
The subjects of the meetings have ranged from sharpening his message on the economy, the border, and crime, to his views on abortion, the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, and how to best frame his May 30th conviction on business fraud.
So he's been basically meeting with all of these people, but they're not doing mock debates apparently.
So in 2020, Trump did mock debates with Chris Christie, the round mound of rebound.
That didn't work out amazing for him.
On the Biden side, they've been casting for a Trump stand-in.
Apparently Biden's personal lawyer may be reprising his role from 2020 when he did the same sort of thing.
Part of this is going to be heightening expectations for Biden on the Trump side.
Trump has done, I think, a bad job on his side of increasing expectations for Biden.
He needs to spend the next week saying, Joe Biden is going to be up there prepping.
They're going to give him whatever he has to do to get on stage.
Not going to speculate on what that is.
He will be awake.
He'll be there.
And so he is going to be a tough debater because we saw last time that he can still debate.
He's going to have to say that.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden is going to have to somehow raise the bar for Trump.
Now, the thing is, again, with regard to raising the bar for Trump, I'm not sure how much Biden has to do that because everybody sort of expects that Biden is going to collapse on stage.
However, today I wanted to go through the way that Trump really should handle the debate.
We know what Biden's strategy is going to be.
He's basically said it out loud.
And so some of this is going to be offensive and some of this is going to be defensive.
The big thing for Trump is that he has to shift every Biden attack back into a jujitsu attack on Joe Biden.
So before he even starts, he needs to lead off by setting the predicate for the debate.
He needs to say, Joe Biden is a dishonest man.
He's dishonest.
He lied to you in the last round of debates I did with him.
You'll recall that in the last round of debates, he openly stated that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
That Hunter had never taken any money from any Chinese source, for example.
Those were lies.
Joe Biden lies to you all the time.
Joe Biden lies to you about the economy.
Joe Biden lies to you about illegal immigration.
Joe Biden lies to you about foreign policy.
Joe Biden lies to you about the solidity of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Joe Biden is a liar.
So what he says up here on the stage cannot be trusted because he is not a trustworthy figure.
He should lead off with that because, again, that sets the groundwork for the fact that when Joe Biden says things that are not true, Donald Trump can say, right, because he's lying.
That's not true.
The second piece of groundwork that Trump needs to set about Joe Biden is that Joe Biden is tyrannical.
He has used the power of the executive branch in unprecedented ways.
He's had more executive orders than any president in modern history.
He has used the power of the presidency in order to, in his own words, avoid the rulings of the Supreme Court.
He has threatened 80 million Americans with vaccine mandates he said he would not initiate.
He has shut down state attempts to close the southern border.
Joe Biden is tyrannical.
Joe Biden does not care about the boundaries of government.
And he can pretend he's standing up here for democracy, but he thwarts democracy with every step he takes.
And finally, Joe Biden is an incompetent rube of a president.
He is terrible at being president.
He's brought you 40-year inflation, wages have not kept pace, That inflation is now embedded in the economy.
He has brought you a foreign policy that is so disastrous.
There are now two massive, ongoing conflagrations across the world.
Plus, you have Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un and Xi Jinping all hanging out together and plotting their next moves.
The enemies of the United States lick their lips when they see Joe Biden in the White House.
So those are the three things that Donald Trump should set up as the predicate, but those should be the themes of the debate.
That Joe Biden is, one, a liar, two, tyrannical, and three, incompetent.
Those are the three things to know about Joe Biden.
Notice, none of those things are about his senility.
That's something for everyone else to notice.
And there are subtle ways, of course, that Trump can point this out.
I've said, for example, But if Joe Biden comes to the end of an answer, but he has time left on the clock, like a minute left on the clock, which will undoubtedly happen.
He did it a lot during the last round of primary debates, even in 2016.
And now it's hard for him to keep it together.
If you get past minute 50, he's going to start to fade.
He always starts off strong in these things, and then he starts to fade.
If you get to minute 60 of the debate and Joe Biden has two minutes on the clock to respond to something, and he uses 45 seconds of it, and then he says, well, anyway, I don't want to get into that.
And then the moderators turn to Trump.
Trump should say, you know, Joe, you have a minute left on the clock.
I really think the American people deserve to hear your thoughts.
It'll completely throw Biden.
He won't know what to do with it.
It'll be a great moment for Trump.
I'm just telling you, that's what Trump should do.
Okay, now, on to the actual issues.
So we know the lines of attack that are going to be used by Joe Biden because he said them.
His campaign has said them.
The number one line of attack, of course, of course, of course, is going to be January 6th.
He believes that this is his Trump card.
He believes that this is his get-out-of-jail-free card, his re-elect card.
He's just saying January 6th over and over and over.
And what Donald Trump needs to say is, listen, Joe, you and I disagree on what happened in the 2020 election.
I, for example, think that your party rigged many of the voting rules in advance of the election in order to ensure an extraordinary number of mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting.
I think that you worked with the media in order to prevent the dissemination of a story about Hunter Biden's laptop in the last month of the election.
And you and your son, knowing that the laptop was real, lied about it to the American people.
We can disagree about what happened in 2020, But none of that matters to the American people.
Because right now, the calendar reads 2024.
It reads June 27th, 2024.
No one in America is thinking about January 6th.
And the only reason you are is because you are a cynical actor attempting to avoid the consequences of your own failed presidency.
In other words, January 6th happened three years ago.
And the number of Americans who are thinking about January 6th is relegated to Joe Biden and his campaign.
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You've been the president since January 2021, and you've been terrible at it.
That's the answer on January 6th.
We'll get to more on that in a moment.
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Okay, the second issue that Joe Biden presumably is going to bring up is a corollary of the first, and that is this threat to democracy stuff.
So Joe Biden keeps saying, And he's going to talk again about January 6th.
He's going to suggest that Trump wants to overturn the election, that he's threatened to be a dictator on day one, all the rest of this sort of stuff, right?
The dictator on day one thing is just a lie, right?
What Donald Trump did is he joked about being a dictator on day one, saying that he was going to effectively reverse Joe Biden's executive actions.
That's literally what he said.
He said, he was asked, will you be a dictator?
He said, I won't be except on day one when I'm going to reverse the executive actions on illegal immigration, then I won't be.
He's joking.
That's not dictatorial unless you also believe that it's dictatorial for Joe Biden to do what he's done on the border.
In fact, there's much more legal authority for Donald Trump to shut down the border than there is legal authority for Joe Biden to simply not enforce immigration law.
So Trump's proper response on the threat to democracy stuff is twofold.
First, he should say, Joe, you keep saying my threat to democracy because I don't believe I lost the 2020 election.
Well, I noticed that Hillary Clinton doesn't believe she lost the 2016 election and that's apparently just fine.
And she keeps saying that it was Russian disinformation or that I stole the 2016 election.
You seem just fine with that.
Totally fine with that.
Half your party is fine with that.
But put that aside.
In reality, you are the threat to democracy.
Democracy means, in the United States, a democratic republic with two elected branches of the legislature who are supposed to initiate bills, and then you are supposed to effectuate those bills once you have signed them.
And that is not how you have run the government.
In reality, you've sicced your political allies on me in the courts.
You've had your party's members From New York, to D.C., to Florida, to Atlanta, sicked upon me for political reasons.
I had zero criminal investigations into me for my entire life, and I'm into my eighth decade of life, until I decided to run for re-election, at which point the House fell in on me.
I don't think that's a coincidence.
So I want you to explain, Joe, why it is that your DOJ let you off the hook.
And tried to cut a sweetheart deal with Hunter before they were caught.
But has been sicked on me in every jurisdiction you can find.
Does that sound... democratic to you?
Trying to use the courts to go after your political opponent?
You used OSHA to mandate vaccines for 80 million Americans.
Violated the Constitution to try to allow people to skate on their student loan debt so you can let a blue-collar plumber pay for the tuition in the future of some gender theory major over at Wellesley.
You violated your constitutional oath by keeping the border open and letting through at least 7 million illegal immigrants.
That sounds like a threat to democracy to me.
And you're baking all of these regulations into the administrative state, so even if I'm elected, it makes it difficult for me to change our policy.
You've effectuated the establishment of a fourth unelected branch of government, independent of even the executive, unless the executive happens to be a Democrat.
Okay, so that is response number one to the democracy issue.
The other one is he should say, listen, I joked about using executive orders on my first day in office.
You have been a dictator the entirety of your presidency.
You haven't just been a dictator on day one.
You've been a dictator the whole time.
And then you should list off the litany again.
Hey, then you have issue number three, and that's the criminal convictions.
At some point during this debate, Joe Biden is going to bring up, Oh, I'm running against a convicted felon up here.
Now, Maggie Haberman suggests that Trump is going to bring up Hunter in this context, that your son is also a convicted felon.
I think that's a mistake.
The reason I think that's a mistake is because the minute that he does, then Biden is going to say, I respect the justice system for my own son.
So I certainly respect it for you.
Right?
That's what he's going to say.
So Trump will be walking into a trap if he does that.
If he brings up the fact that Hunter is a convicted felon, then Biden will throw his own son under the bus.
He just will.
You know he will.
Because in the end, Joe Biden is a very, very ambitious man.
Which is how you become President of the United States and the Democratic Party.
So he's gonna say, as he's already said, I believe in the justice system.
The justice system.
And I said my son is guilty.
And even if I disagree, that's the way it is.
And the justice system said you're guilty.
And I believe in that same justice system.
So if he cites Hunter, it's going to be a mistake.
Maggie Haberman, who sort of has a window into Trump.
She's been covering him for a long time.
Some of the leaks to Maggie Haberman have come from a man whose name, whose name rhymes with Donald Trump.
In any case, here's Maggie Haberman suggesting that Trump will bring up Hunter if Biden hits him on the convictions.
There are things that I think he can speak to about policy, but there's also a lot of stuff that is going to be a problem for him.
You know, the January 6th-related questions, I think, are going to be a problem.
The pardons question is going to be a problem.
His promises of retribution are going to be a problem when those come up.
And I anticipate President Biden will reference his criminal conviction.
Now, I'm quite confident, based on my reporting, that Donald Trump will then point to Hunter Biden's criminal conviction.
And this could be an uglier debate than we have seen in a very long time.
So, again, I think that would be a mistake.
We'll get to more on this in just one second.
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Democrats are prepping for this, right?
They are.
That's why Mika Brzezinski is out there saying, the convicted felon plays dirty, he plays ugly.
There's a way for Trump to play this where it's not dirty and ugly, it's just Actually pointed.
But here is Mika Brzezinski again.
They're setting up the expectation, which is that Trump is going to be mean to the old man.
So mean.
In reality, Trump doesn't have to be mean.
All Trump has to do is be factual.
Here is Mika Brzezinski setting the groundwork for the Biden team strategy here.
I mean, you already saw Donald Trump on stage suggesting that President Biden will be on cocaine.
To back up the point I'll make here, this individual, this candidate, this convicted felon, plays dirty.
He plays ugly.
He's done it many times in the past.
We could spend the next three and a half hours listing his lies.
We wouldn't get through them.
Okay, so what should Trump actually respond if they bring up the criminal conviction?
What he should say is, Joe, you're right.
I was convicted by a Democrat judge and a Democrat prosecutor who coordinated to set up a series of specious charges in a district that you won overwhelmingly, in an extraordinarily blue district in Manhattan, which is why the case was filed there.
You're right.
I was convicted in that case.
At least I was found competent to stand trial.
Your own Department of Justice refused to prosecute you for mishandling of classified information, for keeping classified documents in your drawers, telling your ghostwriter about it, keeping them in your car, in your garage.
Your own DOJ refused to prosecute you because they effectively found that you are too old and too wavering mentally for a jury to convict you.
That is the actual rationale set up by your own Justice Department for not.
So at least I was found mentally competent to stand trial.
That's the least you can say about me.
Your own DOJ effectively said you were not there.
And so the jury would find you innocent because they felt bad for you because you're just too old.
And now your own DOJ is stonewalling.
They won't even release the tape of you talking to them for a prolonged period of time.
Why?
Answer it, Joe, why?
Why won't your DOJ, why don't you authorize your DOJ to release the tape?
You say that Robert Herr was targeting you, and you lied about that because we saw the transcript.
So, why won't you, you're the president, why don't you, and you're the guy who's the subject of the interview, you can release the tape today.
Release the tape.
Release the tape.
If you say that you are so with it.
And that Robert Hurd's a liar about your mental status.
Why not just release the tape of the interview?
There's literally nothing in there that we don't already know about what you said.
We've seen the transcript.
Release the tape.
That's the direction that Trump should take when they bring up the criminal conviction.
He should go directly at Biden and not at Hunter.
It's a mistake to go at Hunter.
Okay, finally, the issue of style.
So this is going to be the biggest thing for Trump, obviously, because he's gonna have to contain himself.
And when Trump contains himself, he can be quite good at this.
The truth is that in debates, Trump has historically done well in situations in which he has been more contained.
If you remember the debates with Hillary, he actually was more contained.
The last debate with Biden, he was more contained in 2020.
Everyone remembers the first one because it was disastrous for him.
The second one, he probably won because he was more contained.
Maggie Haberman, again, she says that Trump knows that he talked too much during the first debate.
The last time around, he's going to be a more contained candidate, which is correct.
Look, Trump doesn't like PrEP.
I mean, he considers it school.
So the fact that they've gotten him to do it this way is actually pretty revealing and also speaks to the fact that I think he knows that this has to go well for him.
He has said to people multiple times that he knows that he interrupted too much in the first debate with Biden in 2020.
And having just rewatched that debate recently, it's really striking.
I mean, we all talked about it at the time, but Biden could barely get a word in edgewise, and Biden was kind of smiling throughout as this was happening.
So again, I think that Trump knows this.
And so his big thing is let Biden talk.
Let Biden talk.
That's all.
If he lets Biden talk for prolonged periods of time, people are going to see that Joe Biden can't even realistically defend his own policies.
Look, I'm not looking for Donald Trump to fact-check Biden in real time.
I don't think that that's Trump's strongest game.
I do think that he needs to go unarmed with a set of facts that he knows Biden's going to lie about.
So when Biden says, I created X million jobs, Trump should say, actually, you didn't create any jobs.
The American people created jobs despite your vaccine mandates and all of your insane regulatory policies and 40-year highs in inflation.
That's not you.
That's the American people.
When he when he suggests that inflation was very low when he was already high when he came in and then just got higher, Trump should fact check him on that.
That's not true at all.
Inflation was was that kind of historic norms when you came in and then within a month of you coming in, they blew up because you started pumping money into this economy.
When he starts citing and jabbering about how historically successful he's been on the foreign front, Trump should be able to say things like, well, I noticed that despite you guys labeling me a Russian agent, Russia never actually invaded Ukraine while I was president, but they did while you're president.
That's because you're a weakling and everyone knows it, including Vladimir Putin.
The truth is that you keep saying that I'm palling around with dictators.
Dictators drool when you're the president.
Dictators gleefully shout when you're the president.
Every dictator around the world has gotten more aggressive because you're the president.
And there's certain things that Donald Trump can certainly do factually that don't require him to memorize facts and statistics because, again, that's not something that Trump is going to do.
So, as we draw closer to the debate, I would assume that Trump's team is prepping him for all of these things, and he's going to have to avoid kind of the easiest grab bag of things that he tends to go for.
Donald Trump debates like he speaks, which is he picks things off the tree.
Have you ever been to a Trump speech?
It's a very hilarious comedy routine in which he is basically picking random fruit off the tree and just throwing them.
And it's really funny.
But in debate, the whole point of a debate is to be pointed and bring people's attention where you want people's attention.
Trump needs to spend the entire debate redirecting attention from him to Biden.
From him to Biden.
And that runs against Trump's grain because Trump believes if people are talking about him, then that means he's winning.
But that obviously was not true in 2020.
It also is not true in 2024.
Okay, in just a second, I want to get to the insane media willingness to cover for the radicals, like true radicals, evil people inside the Democratic Party first.
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Okay, meanwhile, it's truly amazing to me how radicals on various sides of the aisle are treated.
So on the right side of the aisle, there are certainly radicals in Congress.
Say, Paul Gosar from Arizona, in the Republican Congressional Caucus.
He's basically been excised by Republican leadership from any position of power, and essentially sidelined by all right-wing media.
Because he's kind of nutty, and so people don't really want to associate with him.
Meanwhile, on the left side of the aisle, you have people ranging from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, A ridiculous human being with foolish ideas to Rashida Tlaib, who's legitimately a border, to Jamal Bowman, all being supported by the democratic infrastructure.
Rashida Tlaib yesterday tweeted out, Palestinian liberation and black liberation are interconnected.
From Detroit to Cleveland to Gaza, we must come together to fight for the collective liberation of oppressed people everywhere.
This is insane on so many possible levels.
It's almost, honestly, it's extraordinary.
She combined to write this piece with the former national surrogate for Bernie Sanders, Nina Turner, for the nation called Black Liberation and Palestinian Liberation are interconnected.
What is her argument?
Her argument is brown people.
Not even kidding, that's her argument.
Her argument is brown people oppressed, white people bad.
Never mind the fact that a huge percentage of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi, meaning like from Arabic countries.
Which is why, for example, the units that you see in Fauda on Netflix, they look like Arabs, which is how they are able to go into Arab villages and, you know, actually carry out operations.
It's how they're able to free the hostages as they did about a week and a half ago.
The total insanity, again, of trying to connect black Americans to Palestinians who support a genocidal group, I mean, how little do you think of black Americans?
How many black Americans are in favor of, you know, spilling out from predominantly black areas of Detroit into the suburbs and every white person they can find, including the babies and grandmothers?
I don't think there are a lot of black Americans who think like that.
I really don't.
But apparently, that's what Rashida Tlaib thinks.
Because she's likening them to the people of Gaza.
Who, again, are overwhelmingly supportive of... And she is treated as a respected member of the Democratic Caucus, still.
That's insane to me.
Jamal Bowman too.
So Jamal Bowman is a trash heap of a congressperson from New York.
He represents a district that is largely Jewish.
He's being primaried right now by a person named George Latimer.
He's being supported in that primary by a bevy of prominent Democrats who believe correctly that Jamal Bowman is an anti-Semite, which he is.
How anti-Semitic is Jamal Bowman?
He had actually called the of Israeli women on October 7th, propaganda and lies.
He said that in response at a pro-Palestinian rally last November.
And now he's apologizing.
Now he says, oh, I'm so sorry that time that I said that women were not by, well, apology not accepted.
Because it turns out that you just are consistently saying anti-Semitic and ridiculous things.
But here's the amazing thing.
If you were a white supremacist and you said the same things as Jamal Bowman, you'd be treated as anathema by the body politic and by the media.
This actually came to a hilarious sort of apex yesterday when Nick Fuentes and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had that bizarre sort of online meme from predator of like the black fist and the white fist,
like gripping hands and agreeing that the Jews are responsible for everything.
So Fuentes tweeted out at Alexander Ocasio-Cortez because Fuentes and Alexander Ocasio-Cortez agree
that supposedly AIPAC is responsible for all the ills in the world.
So first of all, let me point something out at AIPAC.
AIPAC, typically speaking, is a fairly left-wing democratic institution.
AIPAC, for example, did not intervene in 2015 when they had the opportunity to do so
to pressure Democrats not to vote on behalf of Barack Obama's horrific Iranian nuclear deal.
Also, many of the people that you see Congress people talking about, oh, we have an AIPAC handler.
No, you don't.
That's not what a handler is.
A handler, typically speaking, is a person who works for an organization and then provides covert payments in some way in order to do corrupt things.
The people that, for example, Thomas Massey is talking about, those are just constituents Who actually agree with the cause of AIPAC and then lobby his office.
That's not a handler, that's called a constituent, and it exists across the board.
It turns out there are many people who are arranged with many different lobbying groups across America, from left to right, on causes ranging from the environmental, to tax, to foreign policy.
Them calling off an office does not make them a quote-unquote handler.
In any case, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez has attempted to jump on this bandwagon, suggesting that AIPAC is in control of the United States Congress, which is a full-scale absurdity.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
AOC tweeted something out about AIPAC in which she says, an unspoken secret in Congress is that much of the reflexive, blind, unconditional vote support for nearly any Israeli government action isn't from actual agreement, it's from fear.
Reps are terrified of this, of AIPAC, so they don't vote their conscience, they vote their fear.
Now, this is very reminiscent of the kind of language people used to use about the NRA.
They'd say, oh, the NRA controls gun policy.
And it turns out, nope, it's just there are a lot of Americans who support gun rights And then a lot of their Congress people also support gun rights.
And when your constituents support a thing, you very often tend to support that thing.
It turns out the American people are overwhelmingly pro-Israel, except for AOC and Nick Fuentes, who lock arms in their hatred for Israel and for Jews.
In any case, this was the best exchange.
It was great.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rips on AIPAC and suggests that everyone is voting this way out of secret fear of AIPAC.
Which again is reminiscent of the old joke about two Jews meeting in 1937 Germany and one of them sitting on a park bench and is reading Der Sturmer, which is the Nazi newspaper.
Another Jew walks by and looks and says, what are you reading?
Why are you reading that garbage?
Guy says, there's so much good news.
We run the banks.
We run the government.
That's AOC and Nick Fuentes.
The Jews run everything according to them.
Anyway, Fuentes then tweeted, AOC is more America first than 99% of Republicans.
Yes, yes.
If by America first, you mean like Nazi sympathizer, then kind of, a little.
She does have a lot of sympathy for, you know, today's Nazis, meaning the advocates for campus protesters are perfectly willing to act as today's soft brown shirts.
Anyway, Ocasio-Cortez then replied, you are a white supremacist.
I want nothing to do with you, nor the world you imagine.
I believe in a multiracial democracy, one of economic rights, civil liberties, and that affirms the working class and the rights of women and LGBTQ plus minus people.
These are not small differences.
They are irreconcilable.
White supremacy is a scourge and must be disavowed in all places.
AOC, treasured member of the left community, agrees on these radical issues with Nick Fuentes.
On the right, Nick Fuentes is a persona non grata.
On the left, AOC is beloved.
Jamal Bowman, again, this guy who says that didn't happen and then, oops, I'm so sorry I said that.
Oh, I can't believe.
He was on Stephen Colbert.
Can you imagine Nick Fuentes on Stephen Colbert?
That's not a thing that's going to happen.
Or Paul Gosar.
That's not going to happen.
But Jamal Bowman, a full-scale radical dolt who pulled a fire alarm in order to stop a congressional vote and then was held in contempt.
He was censured by Congress.
That guy ended up on Stephen Colbert.
Because if you have the right bona fides, An LGBTQ multiracial democracy.
You can say whatever you want about the Jews, according to the radical left, in the media, and the mainstream media.
Do you involve your family in the campaign?
This time around, yes, because my wife got really pissed off when they challenged me.
And so she got pissed off and she said, we're going to, I can't curse, we're going to win this election and we're going to have record turnout just like we did in 2020.
So my wife literally like for the first time ever, like gave a speech at a Latinos for Bowman event.
What a hero.
What a hero.
incredible. She was interviewed for a newspaper article. My daughter is in our ad and she
has two words, my dad, and she stole the entire show.
And so she's 10. And so, you know, they're involved now and they're having a good time
with it because they don't want to see their, you know, their husband and dad get, you know,
bullied. So we're pushing back a little bit.
What a hero. What a hero. And that's why he's on Stephen Colbert. After having denied that
took place on October 7th.
And what you get away with if you are a radical Democrat is astonishing.
And you get to be, remain treasured by the mainstream media.
Bowman tweeted out, catch me on Colbert Late Show tonight.
We're talking old school hip hop, bringing principal energy to Congress, and so much more.
See, this is the thing about the left.
When they look at the radical left, the left, like the mainstream democratic left, they don't see people who are wrong.
They don't see people who have bad moral principles.
What they see are people who are just too passionate about the issues.
You know, their big problem is they say the quiet part out loud, but their heart is in the right place.
That's why Stephen Colbert can have on Jamal Bowman, why the Democratic Party can continue to push terror supporters like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and AOC.
That's why they can do it.
You know, the truth is the only thing that is stopping the Democratic Party from running off the rails is Joe Biden.
I mean, that's the weird position the Democratic Party is in right now.
The old man who we've been laughing at and pointing out that he's senile, he's falling off stages, and he can't string a sentence together.
If you got rid of him, that wing of the party takes over.
That is the likely outcome for the Democrats because the media are already in the corner of Jamal Bowman and AOC.
They're already in that corner.
They think Joe Biden is too moderate.
That's the truly astonishing thing about this presidential race and the status of the Democratic Party more generally.
Okay, meanwhile, remember that time that Joe Biden said that he had worked with President Xi to crack down on the fentanyl trafficking?
So if you watch episode two, of our series, The Divided States of Biden, over at DailyWare Plus, which you should.
It's a really good piece of work.
We went through the fentanyl crisis.
We talked about the causes of the fentanyl crisis.
Joe Biden has said that he has worked with China to shut down the shipment of the precursor chemicals to fentanyl, which are shipped from China into Mexico, processed there very often by Chinese nationals, and then moved across the border, smuggled across America's southern border in the areas that are no longer protected by Border Patrol because of Joe Biden.
Well, Joe Biden said, well, we worked with China to shut down the big manufacturing labs.
According to the Washington Post today, when President Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping pledged to revive a joint crackdown on illegal drug trafficking in November, it sent a brief shockwave through the vast network of Chinese suppliers, fueling the production of fentanyl.
Drug suppliers hit pause on international orders as local Chinese officials conducted site inspections and began circulating fresh reminders of regulations.
Beijing sent a warning notice to its pharmaceutical industry and shut down 25 companies selling fentanyl precursors, the chemical building blocks of the drug.
U.S.
and Chinese officials hailed it as a breakthrough, but seven months later, the same sellers say it's business as usual.
Traditional routes for shipping small but potent packages of chemicals used in the production of fentanyl remain largely unhindered, according to three people involved in the export of illicit precursors.
The three people, two salespeople for Chinese chemical companies and a Chinese reseller based in Mexico, described resuming sales this year after making minor adjustments to avoid scrutiny, including tweaking customs labeling on packages and pivoting to alternative compounds that have virtually identical applications.
Now, let's be real about this.
If you think the Chinese government does not know about this, they know full well about this.
It's a Chinese surveillance state.
They know obviously all about this.
All they did was they shifted production to less discoverable modes.
The sellers spoke on condition of anonymity or using nicknames to detail their involvement in the sale of fentanyl precursors.
Their accounts highlight the vast challenges facing U.S.
officials who have sought to parlay warming relations with Beijing into a broader crackdown on the supply of fentanyl in the United States, a problem the Chinese government has little incentive to dedicate resources to without its own large-scale opioid epidemic.
It's precisely the opposite.
The Chinese government has a very large interest in maintaining fentanyl production because number one, it poisons Americans, and number two, it makes them a lot of money.
China remains the top global producer of the chemicals used to synthesize fentanyl.
So Joe Biden has been going around declaring that he's been doing all he can on fentanyl.
That's absolutely untrue, because either you have to shut down the Chinese shipment of the precursors, or you have to shut down the border, or both.
And Joe Biden has done none of those things.
This is one of those areas of rare bipartisan agreement.
According to Axios, House members from both parties are now forming a new group to crack down on China's role in the U.S.
fentanyl epidemic as part of a more aggressive push to cut off illicit supply of the lethal drug.
Some members of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party are forming a new working group.
They will seek to boost sanctions, target money launderers, and explore trade reforms to cut off supply from China.
Again, this is one of those rare areas of agreement.
The only person who seems to disagree with this is Joe Biden, who wants to continue to be soft on America's enemies because he is of the bizarre opinion that being soft with tyrants somehow makes them like you more and be nicer to you, which is wild.
Okay, meanwhile, speaking of people who have worked with China in the past, Anthony Fauci is out doing a book tour.
It is truly astonishing how obnoxious Anthony Fauci is, just as a human being.
The extraordinary self-righteousness of Anthony Fauci, the total lack of introspection, So yesterday he was doing those media rounds, and he has this peculiarly tyrannical, dictatorial way of viewing science.
So he said, questioning me is threatening to the social order.
Oh my goodness.
Anybody who says stuff like this is certainly a person not to be listened to.
I served and advised seven presidents, Democrat and Republican, both sides of the aisle, and there has always been disagreements.
Of course, I mean, that's why our country is a great country.
You have people who have different ideological views, but the disagreements were always associated with civility, with respect for each other, and for respect for institutions in the government.
So you could have a disagreement, but at the end you try and compromise.
What happened with COVID, as I think was represented by the hearing a few weeks ago, was just pure ad hominem and vitriol.
And that really took me by surprise.
I thought that there would be that kind of give and take and respect each other's disagreements.
And that's the thing that worries me not only about what I have to face, but about the direction of the country and the social order in our democracy.
It's very threatening, I think.
It's in jeopardy.
It's in jeopardy.
Or you could just admit that you made some mistakes because you did.
And you could, you know, apologize for saying things that were not true about masking, both ways, about the efficacy of the vaccines in preventing spread and transmission.
And then Fauci drops, this is one, I love when people do this.
It's like when you go to a job interview and they ask you, what's your biggest flaw?
And it's like, I'm a workaholic.
That's my biggest flaw.
Here's Anthony Fauci.
And he's asked, like, you know, they're trying to criminally charge you.
And he's like, if caring too much is a crime, And man, jail me for life.
Here we go, this is some strong stuff from Anthony Fauci.
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't the only Republican that's actually calling for your criminal prosecution or imprisonment.
How seriously do you take those threats?
You know, obviously you always take threats that people make seriously, but I quite frankly don't know what they're talking about.
What are the charges?
That you saved millions of lives with the vaccine?
Yeah.
That you helped develop?
Or that you got people to do things that were interventions that made them more safe against a deadly pandemic that killed 1.2 million people?
Yeah.
So if trying to save people's lives is a crime, then I'm guilty, you know?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
He's guilty of loving too much Anthony Fauci.
I can't imagine why people think that he's absolutely obnoxious.
Okay, I do want to talk a little bit about some culture because there are a couple of culture stories that are pretty fascinating this week.
Culture story number one comes courtesy of James O'Keefe, who continues to do good undercover work.
He had a conversation with a guy named Michael Giordano, who's the senior vice president and team leader of 20th Century Television at the Walt Disney Company, who freely admits that Disney no longer hires white people, which is a pretty amazing admission.
Certainly, there have been times where, you know, there's no way we're hiring a white helper.
It's kind of unspoken.
There are times when it's spoken.
How would they say it?
There's no way we're hiring a white male in this room.
I've been in the company 11 years now, so I have friends in HR, and I have friends in other divisions, and they're like, look, nobody else is going to tell you this, Mike, but they're not considering any white males for this job.
They're just not.
We wanted to hire somebody in our department a few years ago now, who was half black.
I'm guessing that there's acceptable code words and buzzwords that are used to explain what they're looking for.
We're not, that's not what's going on.
I'm guessing that there's a acceptable code words and buzzwords
that are used to explain what they're looking for.
They might say something like, you know, look, we're not looking at
the usual suspects for this job.
So it's not a legally actionable thing.
I would guess that 30-35% of our top writers are 90, you know, gay.
And so I think a lot of them lean into trans stories more than a straight writer would.
Well, there you have it in a nutshell.
That is the Walt Disney Company.
Slow clap for these geniuses.
And then you wonder why the acolyte absolutely sucks and is filled with woke trash.
That would be the rationale for all of that.
By the way, this is all a violation of civil rights law.
You are not allowed to hire on the basis of race.
So there's a massive lawsuit coming Walt Disney Company's way over this sort of activity.
This guy's gonna get fired for having told the truth accidentally to somebody.
It's also the reason we launched BentKey is so you don't have to watch stories that are trans-oriented directed at children.
So you should check out the BentKey app for kids.
And meanwhile, just to demonstrate how left-wing politics bleeds into culture, there's a show called New Amsterdam.
I will admit that my wife started watching the show when it first came on the air, and she was enjoying it at the beginning.
And I didn't watch a minute of it because it looked horrible to me from the very, very start.
And I'm like sitting over here watching war documentaries.
My wife is watching New Amsterdam.
Even for my wife, who's not nearly as politically oriented as I am.
My wife got to the point where she's like, I cannot believe this is gonna be another episode on some left-wing cause.
I just can't.
Well, this one is pretty strong.
Here's an episode from the show New Amsterdam in which a child's tumor grows because of internalized racism.
Meaning other people were racist to the kid, and so the kid has worse tumors.
Oh my God.
Seriously?
Okay.
I had Cephas answer some questions from a Harvard test known as UNREST.
It is designed to measure someone's level of social resistance.
Social resistance?
When people like us oppose the values and policies of the dominant culture.
That's right.
And what does that have to do with- Your son, he feels threatened on a daily basis.
Like everything he's earned can just be taken away.
He's disenfranchised.
But because his life is seemingly free from all this, because he can't name it, he's internalizing it.
Name what?
Racism.
I think your son's tumor was caused by racism.
Your son's tumor was caused by racism.
Wow.
That's some solid TV right there.
Your son's tumor was caused by racism.
Wow.
How do you even?
Okay.
All right then.
Well, there is some good news.
They've hired Dr. Cori Bush to show up at the new Amsterdam hospital where she will lay her hands upon the child whose tumors have been caused by racism and the tumors will just disappear.
So, cancer cured, racism solved.
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