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So there's been a lot of talk about the continuation of racism in America and the idea that America is systemically racist, filled with racists.
All of our systems are racist.
And I'm wondering exactly what the evidence is of this, that there is widespread American racism, particularly widespread white American racism against black Americans by polls.
The United States is one of the least racist countries on planet Earth by polling data.
By actual violent crime data, the United States has very, very little intraracial crime, white on black.
That does not happen very often.
The evidence that there's widespread American racism, that white Americans are looking to do bad things to black people on a regular basis, or that they are attempting to shift their institutions so as to harm black people, the evidence of that is incredibly, incredibly scanty.
And when we see it, We call it out, right?
When we see bad situations, we call it out.
See, this is the thing that is so puzzling about our entire moment, is there seems to be a widespread perception that America is broadly speaking racist, its systems are broadly speaking racist, and yet people are having trouble identifying which systems are racist and which people are racist.
And the reason people are having trouble identifying that is anytime there is a racist incident, there's an extraordinary outpouring of support for the person who was victimized by the alleged racist incident.
So perfect example happened this week.
There's a huge story out of NASCAR.
So there's a driver, a black driver named Bubba Wallace, and Bubba Wallace had called for and ends the Confederate flag in NASCAR.
And he wanted to put Black Lives Matter on his car.
So he put Black Lives Matter on his car, is my understanding.
And Ben Nascar went along with his request, right?
There are a lot of people who fly the Confederate flag, not because they are racist, but because they believe that it represents Southern heritage.
We've discussed the morphing meaning of the flag and the differential meanings of the flag for various different groups in American public life, all of which I think are completely legitimate.
As I've said before, I think the black people look at the Confederate flag and they say, hey, that's the flag that flew for people who wanted to enslave my great-great-grandfather.
I get it.
I really do.
That makes perfect sense to me.
I also know a lot of Southerners who fly the Confederate flag, not because they back racism or slavery, but because that was a flag that their grandfather flew in the Battle of the Bulge.
And so they see it as a Southern pride thing.
I get that, too.
I see how two people could look at the same symbol.
One could find it deeply offensive and be correct, and one could find it deeply non-offensive and also be correct from their perspective.
There are differences of perspective here when it comes to the Confederate flag.
It's sort of like Rashomon, and it really does depend on your subjective perspective on the issue.
If you are a sports league like NASCAR, your private industry, and you want to take down the Confederate flag, totally within your rights to do so.
So NASCAR goes along with this.
And then, yesterday, or the day before, a story emerges from NASCAR that apparently a noose was found in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace's Richard Petty Motorsports team before the postponed cup race at Talladega Super Speedway a little bit earlier this week.
So that was a huge story because black driver who has been instrumental in trying to push NASCAR to get rid of the confederate flag and then he finds a noose in his locker.
Now we don't know all of the circumstances yet.
We don't know who did this yet, right?
NASCAR is investigating.
Presumably they will find out.
I mean NASCAR's garages, I promise you there are cameras in there.
The FBI is also investigating so we should find out sooner rather than later and whoever did that should obviously be punished and everyone agrees on this that that is a great example of a racist incident.
Right, depending on who did it.
That is a great... I mean, it's hard to think of it not being a racist incident, obviously.
So, NASCAR puts out a statement.
It says, Regardless of whether federal charges can be brought, this type of action has no place in our society, says U.S.
Attorney Jay Town, who is the U.S.
District Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama.
So in other words, a bad thing happened, and the reaction is overwhelming in support of the black driver.
Overwhelming.
I mean, the images that came out of Talladega yesterday are stunning.
It is the image of everyone who works at Talladega pushing Bubba Watson's car, Bubba Wallace's car rather, to the front of the speedway.
There was a march where all the drivers got out, like all of them, and all of their pit workers, and they pushed his car all the way to the front of the track.
Right, to the post position on the front of the track, which is, I would think, an amazing display of hating racism.
And I think that that signifies where virtually every American is when it comes to racism.
Every American of good heart, and I would say that's 99% of Americans, 98% of Americans, despises racism and thinks racism is really bad.
And you can see that in action right here.
All of NASCAR's drivers have rallied around Bubba Wallace, the NASCAR Cup Series lone black driver, after what happened here yesterday afternoon.
The drivers, led by reigning Cup Series champion Kyle Busch in green, and their crews, the entire garage area, has rallied around Bubba Wallace and the number 43 today.
Okay, so can we stop pretending that this is like Selma, Alabama, you know, in Selma, Mississippi, in 1962?
Can we stop pretending that that's what this is?
Because it isn't.
I mean, you have literally an entire group of people and I mean like every American dedicated to wiping away the scourge of racism in Selma, Alabama rather.
I was right the first time.
The idea here being that somehow America is deeply racist when you have every NASCAR driver walking Bubba Wallace to the front of the track here in support of him after a noose was found in his locker and after NASCAR the sport backed him and got rid of the confederate flag which again is important to many of the people who watch the sport.
This doesn't seem like a very racist country to me.
I'll be honest with you.
That does not seem like the hallmark of a racist country.
This is not something that you saw in apartheid South Africa.
This is not something that you saw in the Jim Crow South.
It's utterly unthinkable.
I would imagine that if you are a black person who lived through the Jim Crow South, the very sight of Bubba Wallace's car, In Talladega, being walked to the front of the track by a bunch of white drivers, right?
Because he's the only black driver in NASCAR.
And NASCAR, taking his advice and getting rid of the Confederate flag, that's pretty good evidence that there is a lot of support for the notion that racism is bad, right?
These are unifying sentiments that racism is bad.
And yet the idea is that we have to continue to maintain that black Americans are at constant threat of extinction, that America's an extinction-level event for black Americans.
It's just not true.
It's just not true.
The overwhelming sentiment of Americans, and by the way, tolerance for extreme behavior by people who are protesting what they believe to be racism, is fairly good evidence that America is on board.
America is not in favor of racism.
And yet the narrative we're being told is that America is continuing to be in favor of racism.
And the quest never ends, right?
The quest never ends.
It's a perpetual revolution.
Because it's not enough to do what they did over at Talladega.
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Alrighty, so...
As I say, it seems to me the evidence is pretty strong that Americans despise racism.
And Americans of all stripes think racism is really, really bad.
In fact, Americans hate racism so much that they are not willing to talk about instances of apparent racism where the races are not the ones that fit the narrative.
So, for example, there was this attack that I talked about yesterday on the show.
It was filmed and went viral online, in which a black man beat the living hell out of a white Macy's employee and then claimed that he used the N-word.
It was a really bad incident.
Really bad incident.
Okay?
And the only people who are talking about it are, of course, people on conservative radio, right?
People in the conservative world are talking about this because they're making the point that, you know, it's quite fascinating the disparate attention that is paid to acts of racism in the United States.
If this were a white guy walking into a Macy's and beating the hell out of a black employee, that would lead the news every night for weeks.
And the reason for that is because, again, the media narrative is that racism only exists when it comes to white-on-black racism.
There's no such thing as black-on-white racism.
Also, there's this idea from the media that if you pay attention to attacks like this one, that it leads to bad narratives.
It leads to bad narratives in which people might become racist about black people by seeing this sort of incident.
Now, I think most people are smart enough to look at this sort of incident and not attribute this to black people at large.
I think most people are smart enough to look at an incident like this and say, hey, that's a bad person who's doing a racist thing, it appears.
But the same way that the left refuses to... Here's the thing.
For the left, it's a lot of projection.
The left sees a white person do a bad thing to a black person and immediately attributes that to American society writ large and white people writ large.
And so they assume that if Americans were to see a black person do a bad thing to a white person, that all of America would then suggest that all black people are responsible for this.
The only people who talk in terms of collective responsibility for actions on a racial level are people on the left.
And that is why they don't want to talk about incidents like that because with leftist logic, then collective action, collective responsibility starts to take hold.
But for regular people, they look at incidents of racism, they say, okay, people who act racist in America are the bad apples and we should call them out no matter what their race.
And it doesn't implicate the system more broadly.
The problem for the left is if you're making an argument that systems of power are always implicated by individual events, then you can only show the public certain events.
It's very important that the public only see certain events because if every incident is just the tip of the iceberg and the iceberg is really the problem, well then, we can only show you the incidents that back our narrative and the icebergs that we wish to talk about.
So this incident at Macy's, of course, did not receive the sort of national news coverage that it would have received if the races were reversed.
Neither did that incident in, what was it, Michigan?
Where there was a video of a young black man beating up an elderly white person.
Neither did that incident in New York, where there was that image of a young black man walking down the street.
He apparently had a bunch of criminal violations before, pushing over a 92-year-old white woman who promptly banged her head on the sidewalk.
None of that made the news in the same way that the beatings of Jews in Williamsburg, predominantly by young people of color, did not make the news.
The reason it didn't make the news is not because it's not newsworthy.
It's because the left automatically assumes that because they think of things in terms of race, everybody else We'll start to attribute individual actions to broader races, and then that will back a narrative that they don't like.
Right?
And again, I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't attribute individual instances to broader narratives without any supporting evidence, but because the left does it routinely, they're afraid of sh- This is how you end up with censorship.
The way you end up with censorship is because there are people on the left who believe that every individual incident is indicative of a broader system of power.
And so we can only show you certain incidents that back our notions of which power ought to govern and which power ought not govern.
But this is part of the broader point, which is that, and by the way, that is a status quo that is sort of accepted by most Americans.
Most Americans are not clamoring to see more of this Macy's incident on TV.
And the reason is because most Americans are uncomfortable with racist incidents and uncomfortable with racism more generally.
Americans are trying to wipe racism away.
It is something they wish to do.
And you're seeing that, it's pretty incredible, you're seeing this On a wide variety of levels, the attempt to bend over backwards to wipe away non-racism over and over.
So 30 Rock is now pulling certain episodes from syndication because supposedly characters in the show appeared in blackface.
And I don't actually remember those episodes.
I remember watching 30 Rock.
I don't remember the episodes off the top of my head.
But Tina Fey put out a note.
She said, as we strive to do the work and do better in regards to race in America, we believe that these episodes featuring actors in race-changing makeup are best taken out of circulation.
I understand now that intent is not a free pass for white power, for white people to use these images.
I apologize for the pain they have caused.
Going forward, no comedy-loving kid needs to stumble on these tropes.
I believe that the idea here was to parody blackface, if I recall this correctly.
That the whole thing was to make fun of racism.
There were two episodes in question.
One was episode two of season three and one was episode 10 of season five.
Both of them featured Jane Krakowski's character Jenna in blackface.
I believe that the idea here was to parody blackface, if I recall this correctly.
The whole thing was to make fun of racism.
I'm fairly certain that Tina Fey and the folks over at NBC were not like, oh, let's do let's do old fashioned blackface and make fun of black people.
Pretty sure that's not the case.
But even making fun of Blackface is no longer acceptable.
By the way, we know that making fun of Blackface is no longer acceptable because the Washington Post ran a 3,000-word piece castigating one of its own former staffers, who is like an internet person, for having the temerity to mock Megyn Kelly by dressing up as Megyn Kelly in Blackface after that entire silly scandal a few years back.
Okay, speaking of people who are now being targeted for not being woke enough, see, here's the thing.
Once you buy into the narrative that America is, broadly speaking, racist, despite all proof to the contrary, there is no end to it.
Once you buy into the idea that you don't have to spot individual instances of racism, all you have to identify is inequality of outcome, well then, there is no end to this routine.
And the people who will find themselves on the chopping block first are the people who are most likely to cave.
So this is why Bill Simmons finds himself on the chopping block today.
So what did Bill Simmons do wrong, right?
The sports guy?
So the New York Times has a long piece today called Sports Media Giant Bill Simmons Finds Himself Playing Defense.
What did he do?
Did he say the N-word?
Did he mistreat a black person?
No, no he didn't.
What did he do?
Well, on June 1st, there was an episode of Bill Simmons' podcast called A Truly Sad Week in America.
...in which Simmons talked about the Black Lives Matter movement with a frequent guest, The Ringer podcaster Ryan Russillo.
Russillo is one of the founding editors of the site, and a good friend of Simmons.
And Russillo spoke of what he described as looters who were breaking into sneaker shops, which is a thing that happened.
Okay, you know how I know that happened?
It happened two blocks from my house!
Literally, in the middle of the unrest in Los Angeles, there's a footlocker like three blocks away and people broke into the footlocker.
I mean, the good news was that they broke a window and somebody got caught.
They called an ambulance.
The guy was fine.
Not kidding.
That's an actual thing that happened.
But Russillo made a big mistake.
During the podcast, Russillo complimented Simmons on his hiring practices, praising his boss for, quote, the jobs and opportunities you've given a diverse group.
Then, Simmons and Russillo were forced to apologize because it was set off a social media backlash and was described as preposterous in the New York Daily News.
The Ringer Union, affiliated with the Writers Guild of America, represents about 65 employees.
The outlet has no black editors or staff writers covering the NBA or NFL.
So, hold on.
I have a question.
Does that mean no black people work at the Ringer?
No, it doesn't.
It just means they're not in certain positions at the Ringer.
But then, Simmons had to prostrate himself before the woke gods of the New York Times.
He said in an email to the New York Times that the Ringer fell short on diversity, and that he expects to make personnel announcements soon that will show that the company is making progress on the issue.
And then, he held an all-hands meeting a few days after the podcast episode.
Simmons told the staff he was going to make mistakes, but that he tried to learn from them.
By the way, I believe that they have two separate podcast hosts who are black, at least, right?
Jemele Hill, I believe, hosts a podcast with the Ringer, and so does Larry Wilmore, is my understanding, hosts a podcast with the Ringer.
So the idea that this is like a black free company or something or that Bill Simmons is a vicious racist is plainly ridiculous.
It's plainly ridiculous.
But now he is on the chopping block.
Because apparently he has not hired enough black folks.
The Ringer has six black editorial staff members out of about 90 employees, according to the union.
Three of them are writers.
A fourth black writer was hired to cover the NFL starting in July.
Between 2017 and 2019, at least five black editorial staff members left the company.
So that means, presumably, that he had more black staffers and some of them left.
But, the New York Times quoted these four former black employees, three of whom spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of antagonizing Simmons, and they said they often felt uncomfortable at the ringer.
A few of them- why were they uncomfortable?
A few of them said they were sometimes heaped with racist abuse on social media and in online comments when they heard- when they covered topics that might not have fit the expectations of the typical ringer reader, including a post on Beyonce, and top editors didn't go on social media and defend them.
So it's not that the ringer did something bad to their own employees.
It's that they posted articles and people were mean to them online and gave them the sads, and their editors didn't come out of the woodwork to defend them from the cruelty of the comment section.
First of all, if you work in the internet, first rule of working on the internet, guys, never read the comments.
Never read the comments.
But...
Just like every other woke company, The Ringer is now being basically held hostage in its staffing decisions by woke staffers who have decided that they are going to hold accountable the editorial structure that pays them for decisions that they don't actually get to make.
The point here is a more general one, which is, it seems to me, there's a pretty widespread attempt happening right now to fight racism, no?
It seems like Americans, broadly speaking, are pretty, like, they're saying, what do you want from us?
What do you need, what do you, meaning the woke left, what do you want us to do?
What do you want us to do?
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The answer is the woke left wants all the things, every single thing.
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Okay, so what exactly does the woke left want?
The answer is the woke left wants all of the things.
So Sean King, of the New York Daily News and a self-proclaimed civil rights leader.
He reacted to a post from Matt Schlapp.
Matt Schlapp is the head of the American Conservative Union.
And Matt Schlapp had tweeted out that sooner or later, the left was gonna come for statues of Jesus.
They're coming for statues of literally everyone else.
And Sean King immediately tweeted back, yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim as Jesus should also come down.
They are a form of white supremacy, always have been.
In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide and blend in, guess where they went?
Egypt, not Denmark.
Tear them down.
So it tears down every depiction of Jesus as a white person.
By the way, Jesus was not a black person either.
Jesus was a Jew.
Okay, he probably looked like my father-in-law.
Like, seriously, he looked like a modern-day Israeli, probably, Jesus.
He was probably a short, stubby Jew.
Right, that's it, because guess what?
That's what, like, he was a Jew.
I don't know what to tell you about this, right?
He probably did not look like a 6'5 Norwegian, right?
I get it.
But the idea that you are going to tear down all art of Jesus, and then he continued along these lines.
He said, yes, all murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus and his European mother and their white friends should also come down.
They're a gross form of white supremacy created as tools of oppression, racist propaganda.
They should all come down.
So how do you feel about shattering all the stained glass windows?
What do you think?
Should we just go to, you know, all of the world's historic churches and start shattering windows?
Apparently, the answer is yes.
And the attempt to tear down statues continued apace.
It's all statues.
It is all statues, right?
It is not just restricted to Confederate monuments.
It is not just restricted to people in history who have very checkered pasts, the Andrew Jacksons of the world.
They tried to tear that statue down in Lafayette Park last night.
It's not just restricted.
Two old Confederates.
Teddy Roosevelt statues need to be taken down.
Bill de Blasio said that Teddy Roosevelt did things that are deeply disturbing.
We are five seconds away, by the way, from the blow up Mount Rushmore movement.
That is five seconds away.
Because Mount Rushmore features a bevy of people who have all been cancelled.
In fact, there is nobody on Mount Rushmore who has not been cancelled.
All the people on Mount Rushmore at this point have been cancelled so far as I am aware.
George Washington has had his statues torn down.
And so has Thomas Jefferson.
Abraham Lincoln has been cancelled by people who have suggested that, you know, if you look at his early writings, he talks about taking black people and creating Liberia and moving them back to Africa, and he wasn't in favor of racial equality, he wasn't even in favor of getting rid of slavery at the outset of the Civil War.
So Abraham Lincoln has been cancelled, and now Teddy Roosevelt is being cancelled.
Here's Bill de Blasio, giant weirdo and groundhog murderer, talking about how Teddy Roosevelt is cancelled.
Roosevelt himself is another one of these complex figures in American history.
He did some extraordinarily progressive things that we feel to this day.
And he did some things that I think are deeply troubling.
But I think there's a separate question between him, the person, and the actual statue.
The statue has representations that clearly do not represent today's values.
Uh, the statue clearly, you know, presents a white man as superior to people of color.
Okay, that is not really what the statue was dedicated to do.
But in any case, Bill de Blasio and the rest of the of the new communist crew...
have figured out exactly what it is that they want, and what they want is all of the things.
All of the things.
And this does tie into a broader narrative, again, of American racism and American evil.
Tom Cotton, Senator from Arkansas, he pointed out yesterday, when you rip down Washington and Grant, you're not doing that because you want to correct American history, you're doing that because you really don't like the country, and you think the country from inception is evil and bad.
You're talking not just about ripping down monuments of Confederates who fought against the Union, you're talking about ripping down the Union itself.
Witness the events of just this past weekend, where mobs tore down statues of George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant.
When you tear down statues of Washington and Grant, it's not about the Civil War.
It's because you hate America.
And indeed, these rioters hate America.
In Portland, where they tore down the statue of Washington, they also spray-painted on him the date 1619.
A reference to the New York Times' revisionist, anti-American history project.
Okay, he is exactly right about all of this.
And this is part of, again, a broader goal.
And the broader goal is to tear down the system.
The broader goal is to tear down the system.
Now, some of the leaders in the Black Lives Matter movement will say as much.
Black Lives Matter founder Patrisse Cullors, she actually came out a few years back in 2015 and expressed what exactly her goals were.
She said, yeah, I'm a Marxist.
We're afraid of Marxists.
Like, our goal is to tear down the system.
I think that the criticism is helpful.
I also think that it might... I think of a lot of things.
The first thing I think is that we actually do have an ideological frame.
Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers.
We are trained Marxists.
We are...
Super versed on sort of ideological theories.
It's not about stopping racism for a lot of the people who are involved in this.
It is about stopping the system itself because the system itself is supposedly an outgrowth of racism and bigotry.
By the way, this is one of the problems that a lot of people, people on the left, they don't understand.
People on the right say, why won't you just say Black Lives Matter?
Okay, I'm happy to say Black Lives Matter.
Black lives do matter, because that's perfectly obvious.
It's perfectly obvious that black lives matter.
The reason people object to the phrase black lives matter is because there's an actual group called black lives matter.
And when people say black lives matter, that is a term that suffers from, in linguistics they call it semantic overload.
It is a term that means more than one thing.
The group black lives matter is a Marxist group.
Okay, the group itself, which is not the movement, right?
It's just the group that created the movement.
That group is really not a great group.
Their website specifically says we call for an end to the systemic racism that allows this culture of corruption to go unchecked and our lives to be taken.
We need to defund the police nationally.
We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure black people not only survive but thrive.
If you're with us, add your name to this petition.
We disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family structure required In other words, it's a Marxist group.
I mean, the BLM website also takes time out to rip on Israel because that's what they do.
It's pretty incredible.
So when people object to sort of the Black Lives Matter tag, it's because it's not clear what exactly that means.
Because on the one hand, it's perfectly obvious.
On the other, it's perfectly not.
On the one hand, it's perfectly obvious that Black Lives Matter and everyone, 100% of Americans, virtually agrees with this idea.
And the ones who don't are significant outliers that everybody despises.
And then you have people who are the Black Lives Matter organizers and leaders and members of that group.
And the group itself is really not great and is pushing an agenda that has very little to do with fighting racism.
Coming up in just a second, I want to talk about the generational shift that is going on.
Because one of the things that we are watching right now is a repeat of the 60s.
When you had an older generation that had acknowledged its sins and allowed the younger generation to run roughshod over them.
Well today, you have the same thing.
An older generation that is allowing the younger generation to run roughshod over them.
The only difference is that back in the 1960s, at least you could make the claim that the older generation had not done enough about racism.
Now, the older generation is being run roughshod over by its children who, by and large, have not suffered in a racist America.
If you're 20 years old living in the United States, the chances that you suffered from deep, deep personal racism are a lot lower than they were back in the 1960s by every available metric.
The idea that there are systems of power that are designed to keep you down is just not true in the United States in 2020.
It hasn't been true for quite a while in the United States.
It was made federally illegal in the 1960s.
That doesn't mean racism went away.
It doesn't mean that you haven't experienced any racism in your life.
It means the system is not meant to keep you down.
And your parents are not the bad guys.
Your parents were not complicit in the system.
Okay, but we have a generational war that is going on right now.
We're going to get to that in just one second because there's an incredible article in the New York Times talking about this, and it does speak to the, I would say, dismal future of the country if young people get their way on this thing.
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So as I've talked about on the show before, in the 1960s, and I keep quoting Shelby Steele here because I think that his insight here is really valuable.
Shelby Steele talks about that in the 1960s, there was a younger generation and they looked at an older generation that had been complicit in an actual legalized system Of racial discrimination.
And they said, you don't have any moral legitimacy anymore.
And on the basis of that lever, they proceeded to tear down entire systems.
Everything from traditional sexual mores to the destruction of the educational system.
Everything had to go.
Everything had to go.
Because the idea was our parents have no moral legitimacy anymore.
And there was at least truth to the idea that their parents' generation, that the boomers' parents, had been complicit in a system of racism.
That was particularly true in the South, but it was true federally, right?
That was true.
Now fast forward to 2020, and the kids are now doing it to their parents.
So you have millennials who are doing it to Gen Xers, and you have Gen Xers who are doing it to the boomers.
And the basic idea here is that the same people who were ripping on their parents back in the 60s are now being ripped by their children for quote-unquote not doing enough.
Now, there's only one problem with this, which is the evidence is pretty scanty there.
The evidence is really, really scanty.
It doesn't really exist that the Baby Boomers and the Millennials and the Gen Xers, that those people are deeply, viciously racist.
That evidence just isn't there.
And more importantly, one of the things that is happening is when you attribute to racism the effects of failures of personal responsibility, you actually end up removing autonomy from people.
And when you suggest that the system is responsible for individual failings, what you end up doing is creating a discouraging situation for young people.
You tell them that all the problems in your life are not your fault.
They are the fault of your parents' generation.
They are the fault of the system.
That is not a recipe for success.
It is not.
It is a recipe for failure.
One of the worst things you can do to a child is tell them that they do not have the capacity to rise in the freest country in the history of the world.
A country that is diverse and multicultural and allows opportunities and equal rights under law, right?
That country is a problem and that your parents just don't get it.
They don't get it because, you know, they may be thinking of the old framework where if you remove the obstacles, then you have opportunities.
But they need to think of the new framework wherein anything short of utopia is evidence of discrimination.
This is leading to a younger generation who have decided that their actual quest in life is to tear down the system that provides them opportunities because they don't wish to take advantage of the opportunities themselves.
There's an incredible article in the Washington Post today.
It's called, Young Asians and Latinos Push Their Parents to Acknowledge Racism Amid Protests.
This is pretty incredible because, let's be frank about this, young Asians and Latinos are experiencing a lot less racism in the United States than their parents or grandparents did.
That is perfectly obvious.
Anti-Asian sentiment in the 1980s was much stronger than anti-Asian sentiment in 2020.
Anti-Latino sentiment in the 1970s and 80s, much, much stronger than anti-Latino sentiment in 2020.
Perfectly obvious by every available metric.
But now you have young people who are pushing their parents and basically saying that their parents are racist.
Why?
Because their parents keep saying things like individual responsibility.
Their parents keep saying things like meritocracy.
Their parents keep teaching them things like work hard.
And by doing that, they are complicit in the system.
According to the Washington Post, the argument began as soon as Charlie Mai and his brother Henry announced their plans to attend a Black Lives Matter protest that evening in D.C.
Their father was not having it.
Glenn Mai, a retired FBI agent, had been raised in Dallas by Chinese immigrants who had taught him he would succeed if he just worked hard.
Glenn, 54, said, quote, Chinese culture is very much about working within the system.
During decades in law enforcement, he'd come to believe the system worked.
His son Charlie, 24, took a different view.
My father deeply believes that everyone has a fair chance, which is just basically untrue, said Charlie, an artist who fled New York for his family's home in northern Virginia because of the pandemic.
It's very Asian to me, that view that if everyone just works hard, then everything will turn out all right for them.
I'm definitely a little reactive to that because I think that's delusional.
Okay, I have a question for Charlie.
Charlie's an artist in New York, presumably being subsidized by his parents.
His dad, who's 54, which means that he grew up in the 1970s and 1980s, his dad, who's 54, who's presumably in Dallas as a Chinese immigrant, that is not exactly a recipe, you would think, for never experiencing racial discrimination, says, work hard and you'll get ahead.
And then he tells his son, you know what happened?
I worked hard and I got ahead.
And then his son, who's an artist in New York, is like, you know what?
Racism.
You know what?
Racism is keeping people down.
Maybe you should listen to your dad.
Because maybe your dad has more life experience.
Maybe your dad went through more crap than you did.
Maybe it's pretty ungrateful for you to disparage the country that gave your father the opportunity that he himself recognizes he got.
Maybe that's an absurdity.
That June morning, amid the yelling and the tears, Glenn threatened to walk out when it became clear that Charlie and Henry, 22, planned to defy the city's 7 p.m.
curfew.
In the end, however, he drove downtown to bring his son safely home.
The argument over the protest's police brutality and systemic racism has since softened into an extended conversation.
During the Civil Rights Movement, black parents and their children may have disagreed over speed and strategy, but their shared experience of discrimination united them on the cause.
Non-black allies, many of them Jewish Americans, were a clear minority in the 1960s.
By contrast, the youth-led protests unfolding now in response to the killing of a black man by a white Minneapolis police officer are much more diverse.
There are a large number of African Americans who have supported the BLM movement since its 2014 founding, and many native-born black and white newcomers whose lives have often differed dramatically from their parents.
But there's also an unprecedentedly large segment of protesters from other backgrounds.
Some are descended from immigrants who moved to the United States generations ago, while many others come from families that have arrived in great waves since the civil rights movement spurred passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act in 1965.
I think what you are seeing is a decades-long transformation.
We have arrived at a real cultural shift, said Jose Antonio Vargas, founder of Define America, an immigration advocacy organization and former Washington Post reporter.
Of course, he's on the far left.
In forming a new kind of majority with black and white protesters, Asian and Latino and other young allies are fighting, are uniting in fighting anti-black racism and in many cases are pushing their mothers and fathers to understand why change is necessary.
So, basically, parents are being called out by their children.
Why are they being called out by their children?
Because they themselves are saying things like, you know what?
I came to this country, I worked really hard, I got ahead.
Can you please stop disparaging the country that gave me that opportunity?
And their kids are like, you know what?
No.
You know what?
No, you're wrong, mom and dad.
I, a 24-year-old artist living in New York on your subsidy, I have been victimized by America, and America is deeply evil and racist.
There's a person named Giselle Quintero, a Washington Post quoter.
She says, it upset me to see how unjustly black people are being treated.
I have a platform in this little community, so I knew I had to do something to help out.
In early June, she posted news on social media of a protest in front of a mall near her house.
Her parents, Mexican-American business owners and strong Trump supporters, vocally opposed her plans.
At first, my parents were like, this is stupid.
All lives matter.
They didn't understand the big picture of it, that the system is so messed up, nobody deserves to have a knee on the neck for eight minutes over a $20 counterfeit bill.
Quintero says she grew up hearing her grandparents tell stories about how they were prohibited from drinking at whites-only fountains after long hot days of working in the fields.
They just kind of suppressed those memories and tried to distinguish themselves by their hard work and achievement, Quintero said, and they're still not being accepted by the white community.
Okay, hold up a second.
So your grandparents were segregated at water fountains and working in the fields and then took the opportunities afforded to them and made an incredible life for themselves, and you're going to lecture them on their subsumed racism?
You're going to lecture them on their integration of white supremacist ideals?
What have you gone through, young person?
You literally just said that your grandparents drank in segregated water fountains and worked in the fields.
Your great act of heroism is that you went and stood in a parking lot after posting on Facebook?
The point here is that many of the people who are currently protesting and are going after their parents, they've deemed themselves, as I mentioned yesterday, a new generation of better people.
And here's the thing, this new generation of better people, I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that they're a new generation of better people.
I'm not.
I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that they're doing many worthwhile things that are making the country a better place.
That doesn't mean that, again, for the 1000th time, marching against police brutality is a bad thing.
It means that when you're calling out your parents and suggesting that your parents are part of the racist system, when they're the ones who actually went through racism and you haven't even seen it, I'm gonna go no on that.
I'm gonna suggest that this is self-righteousness masquerading as righteousness on behalf of others.
And that there is no actual end goal here.
That the end goal here is the self-righteousness.
That the end goal for many of the people who are claiming that America is a systemically racist system is making themselves feel good.
I have more proof of this in just one second.
There's a Washington Post piece called, Is This Time Different?
Talking about how there's so many people who support the Black Lives Matter protests, but is this time different?
There's not a single policy prescription in the entire article.
Because in the end, it is all about what slogans you say to make yourself feel good for many people.
For many, many people.
And you're seeing this in personal activity, by the way.
I mean, there's videos emerging that are just hilarious of white women screaming at black police officers over systemic American racism.
Because they read Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility or something, one of the dumbest books ever written.
There's a clip.
That there's a clip of a man, Captain Anti-Racism Manbun, abusing a black police officer.
The white guy's not wearing a shirt, he's wearing a manbun, and he's yelling at a black police officer to fight racism.
And what?
And what?
You've got rights, you know, you can't just beat him if you don't like him.
Your child's gonna tell you you're a piece of shit.
Your mom's gonna tell you you're a piece of shit.
As your mother does it, I feel sorry for her.
I'm so sorry for your family.
You're a piece of s***.
You're a piece of s***.
You really are.
You really are.
Does anybody think that that's fighting racism?
Or is it possible that this is a lot of people, many of these people, particularly the white woke liberals, who are making themselves feel really good on the back of no actual agenda because this is all about a primal cry of, I matter.
Maybe I haven't accomplished anything, but I matter, and I know better than my parents, and my parents may have accomplished something, but you know what?
I matter because I posted a square on Facebook.
That's what truly matters here.
That is not making the world a better place, but I think that for many of the particularly white, woke folks, this is not about making the world a better place.
It's about relieving the feelings of inferiority they have about their own lives, and then trying to suggest that their parents are the bad guys in this particular scenario.
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Alrighty, we're gonna get into more of this, more of the virtue signaling at the expense of your parents who actually went through stuff and were involved in actual change.
Like, the lack of respect for elders here is truly astonishing.
It's truly an amazing, amazing thing.
And the broadening of the agenda out from, you know, police brutality is bad, to everything, to tear down stained glass windows of white Jesus, and tear down every statue you can find, and this is all justified because it's year zero?
That smacks of nothing so much as a bored population assuming that the sort of natural state of things is stasis and peace.
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So what will it all add up to?
Supposedly, we are in a time of change.
This momentous change time.
Have you seen a lot of talk about policy?
Have you?
There was a police reform bill that was put forward by Republicans.
It's basically stalled for the moment.
Maybe it'll pass, maybe it won't.
Does anyone think that that's going to satisfy anybody?
Instead, what we have decided is that we are in a perpetual cultural revolution.
A perpetual cultural revolution.
And that's the only thing that matters.
The only thing that matters is the cancel culture.
The actual legislation doesn't matter because guess what?
Discrimination has been illegal in the United States in employment and housing.
It's been illegal for decades in the United States.
Federally.
But the idea here is that we have reached a new moment.
Now, the media never defined what the new moment is, and herein lies the key.
There is no end goal here.
There is no end goal.
The only end goal is the perpetual attempt to get people to atone of sins they did not commit, and to blame the country and their parents for all of the problems that they experience in their lives.
You know, the only successful societies ever built, and the only successful people who have ever lived, are people who believe they have their own agency.
People who believe they have agency in their own lives and have the capacity to act within their own lives successfully.
We are forthwith building a society that is pushing the notion extraordinarily hard that you have no agency.
That all the things in your life are built upon systems, and those systems deprive you of agency.
So you are never responsible for your own decisions.
Case in point, article in the New York Times.
White Americans say they are waking up to racism.
What will it add up to?
One recent afternoon while washing his car, Greg Reese, a white stay-at-home dad in Campton, Kentucky, peeled off a Confederate flag magnet he'd placed on its trunk six years earlier.
He did not put it back on.
It was a small act for which he expected no accolades.
It should not have taken the police killing of George Floyd, Mr. Reese knew, to face what he had long known to be true, that the flag he had grown up thinking of as a beautiful trophy was a symbol of hate, and it's obviously wrong, to glorify it.
So, number one, I have a question.
It says it was a small act for which he expected no accolades.
Why is it leading a piece in the New York Times?
How did that end up in the New York Times?
You expect no accolades for it, but you're talking to the New York Times about it?
Seems kind of like you expect a few accolades.
The sustained outcry over Mr. Floyd's death has compelled many white Americans to acknowledge the anti-black racism that is prevalent in the United States, and to perhaps even examine their own culpability for it.
It is as though the ability of white people to collectively ignore the everyday experience of black people has been short-circuited, at least for now.
By the way, this is a news article, this is not an opinion article.
Right?
As though the ability of white people to collectively ignore the everyday experience of black people has been short-circuited, at least for now.
So the assumptions that are baked into this cake, which is that all black people experience the same racism in the United States, that all black people are ground under the boot heel of America's systemic evils, That is the premise of the article.
Large numbers of white Americans have attended racial justice demonstrations, purchased books about racial inequality, and registered for webinars on how to raise children who are anti-racist.
Some have asked themselves pointed questions, like how much professional advantage they have garnered from being white, and whether they would willingly cede it if they could.
Others are going to tattoo parlors to cover up images of Confederate flags, swastikas, and Ku Klux Klan symbols on their bodies.
Okay, question.
Like, what are the percentages here?
Seriously, like how many people had the KKK symbol on their body and didn't know it was racist?
I feel like that one you probably should have known, guys.
You probably should have known.
The New York Times says, it's hard to know how deep or wide these responses run, and whether they are the result of pressure from peers to appear tolerant, or if meaningful action will follow.
Anti-racism activists have specified concerns that are not only about symbols or slurs, but entire governing systems about how Americans live.
Okay, and then it doesn't suggest anything that Americans can actually do to fix these systems.
Nothing.
Like, literally nothing.
The entire article is just about how white people are now recognizing that America's bad.
And that's the first step to change.
That's the first step to change, is recognizing that America is bad.
And then recognizing your own culpability in the badness of America.
That's really what this is about.
Now, the problem is that once you start down that process, there is no end to the process.
Because America is not utopia, and never will be.
Because utopia doesn't exist.
And in fact, the places where we are attempting to establish utopia are falling apart pretty quickly.
So, the Chaz Zone in Seattle, Chaz Chop, is coming to an inglorious end.
Remember Mayor Jenny Durkan?
Remember her?
She was the one who suggested that it was basically an outdoor street fair, and that she was just gonna allow it to happen.
It was all good times over there until a couple people got shot a couple nights ago and the cops couldn't get in because protesters were blocking the cops from getting in.
Well now, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said that the Seattle Police Department will be returning to its abandoned East Precinct building peacefully and in the near future.
Following a weekend in which three people were shot at the edges of the protest area that has emerged around the building.
Durkin said the city would attempt to phase down nighttime activity in the Capitol Hill organized protest area, known as CHOP or earlier as CHAZ, but would not be using police to clear the zone.
Rather, said Durkin, they'd be asking people to leave the area voluntarily at night, offering resources for homeless people and working with community groups to try to cajole people to leave the area, where dozens of tents have sprouted up in recent weeks, along with couches, guerrilla gardens, and graffiti.
Guerrilla like G-U-E-R-R-I-L-L-A.
Guerrilla gardens and graffiti.
Durkin said, it's time for people to go home.
It's time for us to restore Cal Anderson and Capitol Hill so it can be a vibrant part of our community.
But I thought it was a vibrant part of the community.
I was informed that this autonomous republic, this autonomous zone, was a full flowering of American democracy.
Jay Inslee literally said that Trump hates democracy for saying that he didn't like CHAZ and that it was a separatist organization inside a major American city.
Zirkin said the impacts on the businesses and residents in the community are now too much.
Oh, now they are!
Oh, I see.
Now, she just expects that she's going to be able to send over a few people to be like, you know, guys, if you could clear this, that'd be really great.
They've built up barricades there.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing how exactly the CHAZ chop comes to an end.
See, one of the great lies about where we are in American history is this belief that this is the norm.
That the great peace and prosperity we've experienced as a people over the last several decades, that that is the norm in human life.
And that you can rip down all of the systems and maintain the norm.
You can rip down equal rights before law and maintain the norm.
That you can change the definition of racism from actual racism to the systems of oppression are preventing people from expressing themselves fully and all failures of personal responsibility are attributable to the system.
You can redefine racism as that and that that won't have any impact on the systems in which we live.
You can tear down the systems and keep all the good stuff, in other words.
You can just tear away the roots of a building and then expect that the building is going to stand on air.
That's not the way any of this works.
It ends up more like Chaz Chop.
It ends up more like separate black and white zones.
Which is, by the way, something that white protesters were creating inside Chazz Chop.
There was video of them separating people out.
Because they wanted to make safe spaces for black people.
Which is also called segregation.
Okay, that is a bad thing, typically, in the United States.
You separate people on the basis of race.
Even the left recognizes that in practical terms what they are calling for is not a thing that is practical.
Which is exactly why the D.C.
police refused to allow the setting up of a Black House autonomous zone outside the White House.
And the D.C.
police, by the way, stopped the tearing down of an Andrew Jackson statue in Lafayette Park on Monday night.
Also, the members of the Black House Autonomous Zone decided that they were going to spray paint St.
John's Church again.
So that's great.
There have been like a couple of pictures of that.
President Trump appears outside there.
It's a big picture.
They try to burn it down and they spray paint it, the protesters slash rioters, and that's totally fine.
Totally no big deal.
By the way, question, is the mayor, Mayor Bowser over in DC, is she a racist now?
Because she's shutting down the Black House Autonomous Zone.
I've been reliably informed that if you're a member of a system of power and you do not allow these sorts of flowerings of democracy to occur, that you are part of the racist problem in America today.
As the agenda gets vaguer and vaguer, the actual agenda gets clearer and clearer.
As it turns out that there is no policy agenda, that in reality, what we are watching more and more is a movement dedicated to the destruction of American principles more wholly.
Not just fighting racist incidents, and not just fighting police brutality, but something broader.
Something completely disconnected from any policy.
What we're watching is actually just a cultural revolution, not an actual legislative attempt.
It becomes obvious that that's not something that America can go along with and be okay with.
If you're trying to tear down America from the root and expect the structure to stand, then you are sadly mistaken.
The structure will not stand.
The structure will not stand.
Alrighty.
Well, we've reached the end of today's program, but we'll be back here tomorrow.
Sorry, quick note.
I want to add a quick thing that I like.
So quick thing that I like here.
There is a very good book.
by a guy named Wesley Yang.
He has written for The New Yorker.
He is not on the right.
He has a book called The Souls of Yellow Folk, obviously named after the book The Souls of Black Folk.
And the book of essays is really interesting.
It's about Asian Americans in the United States and how they have dealt with discrimination in the United States.
He has a couple of incredible essays near the end of the book about the changing phraseology, the change of phraseology from white supremacy to whiteness being the problem, the change of phraseology from racism to systems of oppression.
He has a couple of essays in this book that are really worth reading.
You should really check it out.
The book, again, is called The Souls of Yellow Folk by Wesley Yang.
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