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June 24, 2017 - The Ben Shapiro Show
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Republicans Prepare To Own Obamacare | Ep. 326
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In the aftermath of a leftist terrorist attempting to murder dozens of Republican congresspeople, there were widespread calls from both right and left to tamp down the level of violent language regularly utilized in political discourse.
It was a starry-eyed idea, kind of dumb, and was never likely to withstand a test of hard-nosed politics.
And naturally, it didn't.
Within two weeks, The opponents of President Trump went right back to the violent language they were decrying.
On Thursday, responding to the Senate health bill that would trim around the edges of Obamacare while restructuring Medicaid, Senator Elizabeth Warren took a political tomahawk to Republicans, calling their bill blood money.
Then there was actor Johnny Depp, who's been playing a fae pirate both on screen and off.
For the last decade, who said that maybe an actor should assassinate Trump.
Then there was Josh Fox, a leftist film producer, who followed up with this gem.
Quote, Mitch McConnell is a terrorist.
Donald Trump is a terrorist.
This bill terrorizes people and sentences poor people to death.
Here's leftist pressure organization, Media Matters.
Quote, what pundits call a moderate Senate healthcare bill will kill people.
Then there were these protesters.
Quote, GOP unveils healthcare bill while protesters bleed and scream, the government wants to kill me.
And there was Scott Dworkin, Democratic consultant.
Fact.
Yes, the violent language the left thought was so terrible that it supposedly led to the Oklahoma City bombing and shooting of Gabby Giffords just had to stop.
But not the violent language that, by the same theory, may have impacted the congressional shooter.
That has to continue.
After all, how will people know how violent and threatening Republicans are unless Democrats describe them as murderers and terrorists?
I'm Ben Shapiro.
This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
All righty, so a lot to get to today.
We're going to talk about Johnny Depp and his fake piracy in just a second.
We're also going to talk about, we're going to go through the health care bill, which I now have had a chance to read.
So we'll talk about everything that is in the Senate health care bill.
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Okay, so.
As the Republicans release their Senate health care bill, which we'll go through in a second and talk about.
I don't like it.
I think it doesn't repeal Obamacare.
It does some good things because most Republican bills do some good things.
But if this is the big Obamacare repeal we were told about, this is not that.
This is not what that is.
And it is a lie for Republicans to suggest that it is.
And there are a couple of serious Republican political problems associated with this health care bill.
But before we get to that, I want to talk about the Democrats' new obsession—really isn't new, I mean, this has been since the election—with killing Trump and saying violent things about Republicans and being just quite terrible.
So, you know, we talked in the aftermath of the congressional shooting about when language is connected to violence, and I said that, you know, I'm not going to explicitly blame language for violence unless the language explicitly calls for violence.
However, I also said that when you have increased violent language, when you have an increased tenor in political debate, it suggests that your political opposition, terrorists who are benefiting from blood money, that there is a small, fringy group of people who are going to be set off by this.
And again, I'm not going to draw a direct linkage, but I think there is clearly an indirect linkage.
Language can affect Random people, for sure.
If you think of speech as a giant circle, and then the group of sane people as mostly falling within this circle who understand what speech is, and then there are outliers out here who can be set off, as the circle of speech expands to include more violent speech, then what you will see is that the circle starts to shrink, actually, and the number of reasonable people who understand that this is meant not to be violent shrinks, and you start to exclude some of the people on the fringes who start to become irrational And crazy.
Anyway, the Democrats have obviously been engaging in this sort of stuff for a while.
Johnny Depp was making headlines last night because he was speaking.
First of all, actors should never speak outside of their Hollywood roles.
There's a reason people write lines for them.
It's because actors are generally not the most intelligent people on earth.
I know a lot of actors.
There's a reason there are stereotypes about actors.
They memorize lines, particularly movie actors who memorize three lines at a time.
I mean, not even stage actors who have to memorize an entire play, but movie actors who memorize three lines at a time.
No one thinks that Johnny Depp is some sort of genius.
Also, I don't know why Johnny Depp's look is now a homeless man who killed three other homeless people and then assembled their wardrobe.
It probably cost him thousands of dollars.
Greg Gutfeld says he looks like a refugee from Hot Topic.
I think that's probably correct.
It looks like he raided my grandmother's drawer for that.
for that blue bracelet.
And then he found a teenage girl and robbed her car for some of those other bracelets.
And then it looks like he went over to the local jewelry store and knocked it over for those blingy rings.
Or alternatively, he went to a candy shop and just spent a lot of money there.
And then he grabbed a hat that may have come from a bad guy in a Western or also may have come from a hipster.
I'm gonna go with probably from the hipster, and he got a Michael Jackson silk black shirt in order to, from the dead man's closet.
In any case, here is Johnny Depp, who has been playing a fey pirate really since the first Pirates of the Caribbean.
It's sad, because Johnny Depp used to be a pretty good actor, and now Johnny Depp just does the Lone Ranger as a fey pirate, and then he does the fey pirate as a fey pirate, and then he does Black Mass, he tries not to be a fey pirate, but he sort of fails, and even the fey pirate sort of infuses his attempt to be a Boston gangster.
Anyway, here's fey pirate Johnny Depp talking about how he would like to kill President Trump.
Can you bring Trump here?
Here I am.
No, no, no, you've misunderstood completely.
Just to give him some love and rehabilitation.
I think he needs help.
It's gonna be in the press, it'll be horrible.
But I'd like that you're all a part of it.
When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
When I was sailing the high seas, I used to assassinate people all the time.
I want to clarify, I'm not an actor.
I lie for a living.
I lie for a living, you know, I'm just like, I'm a randy pirate, you can't... Baby, let me just tell you, I mean, I've been playing this semi-gay pirate for years, and I've made a bajillion dollars off of it, and blown nearly all of it on stupidity, but, you know, I have some things to say about politics.
I mean, for God's sake, if you're gonna play a pirate, play a pirate!
Arrgh!
Anyway, so the Democrats...
Bernie Sanders is going out there and he's openly proclaiming our brand sucks because he would like to be the brand.
And so all hell is breaking loose in the Democratic Party.
Bernie Sanders is going out there and he's openly proclaiming our brand sucks because he would like to be the brand.
Yes, he wants the brand of the Democratic Party to be a crazy old loon bag from Vermont who used to vacation in the USSR and is a socialist.
But it is not my fault that I love pudding so much I had to buy a second vacation home just to store all of my pudding as well as Ben and Jerry's ice cream, which is quite delicious.
Although it hurts my dentures because it is very cold.
So I like to wait until it melts into a soupy concoction, which I can then eat, but slowly through a straw while looking out at the lake in my vacation home.
Bernie Sanders, go. - Well.
Democrat Congressman Tim Ryan told the New York Times just the other day that, quote, our brand is worse than Trump.
Is he right?
I mean, is the Democratic brand broken?
He may be.
Look, I speak as the longest-serving independent in American congressional history.
The Democratic brand is pretty bad.
I mean, I think the Trump brand is also pretty bad, as is the Republican brand.
That's why so many people are giving up on politics.
They're looking in Washington.
And what the average American is saying, I'm in a lot of pain.
My kid can't afford to go to college.
I'm making 10 bucks an hour.
What are you going to do for me?
And they don't hear much coming out of Washington.
Okay, so he's right that the Democrats have a terrible brand.
I think that his recommendation that the brand move further to the left is kind of insane.
Democratic Representative Tim Ryan He came out and he said that Nancy Pelosi, who is now under fire after the loss in GA6, he says, listen, Pelosi's brand is awful, and this is true, okay?
If you look at the GA6 race, as I mentioned yesterday and the day before, if you look at the Georgia 6th race, the name that was national that was mentioned the most in that race was not Trump, it was Nancy Pelosi, and here's Tim Ryan pointing that out.
Well, what I really think is that Leader Pelosi, looking forward to the 2018 election, has to ask herself this question.
Do I help Democrats win swing districts, which we need to win in 2018 or do I not, and have an honest dialogue with herself?
And I just, I think the answer is obvious.
And the answer, obviously, is she should go?
I think that if we are going to win, if we're going to regain the majority in 2018, we have to have new leadership.
Okay, so even the Democrats are starting to realize they have a problem here.
Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is gripping with that death grip of her gnarled fingers onto power in the House.
Here is Nancy Pelosi, dentures are moving, talking about how she is the greatest politician who ever lived, ever in the history of the United States.
And I don't understand.
Why people are so angry at me all the time.
It's just terrible.
I'm a master legislator.
I am a strategic, politically astute leader.
My leadership is recognized by many around the country and that is why I'm able to attract the support that I do, which is essential to our election, sad to say.
I'm well liked and beautiful and everyone loves me.
Okay, good luck, Nancy Pelosi, with all of this.
So, here's the thing.
As I said yesterday, the Republicans have the upper hand because the Democrats are in disarray.
What can bring the Democrats together is not just an unpopular president, like President Trump, and we'll talk about what he's been doing over the last 24 hours, but also they need a piece of legislation to rally around so that they can get their base out and so that they can get People on the edge to vote while leaving Republicans home.
What they need is a piece of legislation that is so polarizing that they can grab onto it and hold onto it and use it as a club to beat Republicans.
This is what happened in 2010 after Barack Obama pushed forward the auto bailouts and he pushed forward Well, it was essentially the nationalization of the auto industry, and the stimulus package, and he pushed forward Obamacare, and then in 2010, Republicans wiped out Democrats, okay?
In 1994, it was Bill Clinton's Hillarycare proposal that led Republicans to wipe out Democrats.
So what is the big proposal from Republicans?
Naturally, they decide to play right into Democrats' hands.
So they could have started with tax reform.
They could have.
They could have attempted to get 60 votes on tax reform.
They could have started with even an infrastructure bill that wouldn't have been so polarized.
I'm talking politically now, not even from a conservative point of view, just politically.
If you want to win, the last thing you start with is touching the healthcare system because the healthcare system is already collapsing.
One of two things is gonna happen.
Either you're going to do a full overthrow of the healthcare system that actually fixes it, but is unpopular because there's a transition period for any healthcare system, or you are going to leave it in place and let it die.
Or there's a third possibility, which is the worst of both, which is you make some changes around the edges that may be beneficial in some ways, but you own the continued failure.
And that's, of course, what Republicans are choosing because they are stupid.
So here is what is in the Republican Senate Obamacare light bill.
So there are a couple of things in here that are good.
There are tax cuts, right?
It cuts taxes, it gets rid of the employer mandate, and it also restructures Medicaid.
So Medicaid right now is basically an open-ended program where the federal government is absorbing the increase in the number of people who are rushing on to Medicaid and then giving grants out on a need-based basis as opposed to a per capita, flat-rate basis to the states.
Okay, that is a recipe for unending debt.
As far as getting rid of the taxes and getting rid of the individual mandate and getting rid of the employer mandate and all this, the problem is that if you keep the central Obamacare regulations in place, what you're really doing by getting rid of all of this is blowing out the spending.
Because if you don't have taxes to cover the cost of Obamacare, if you do not have mandates to force healthy people into the Obamacare system or into the individual health insurance market, then there is no one to pay for the sick people who Obamacare Forces insurance companies to cover.
That is the problem.
You are exacerbating the death spiral that Republicans talk about.
Republicans talk about the Obamacare death spiral.
There's not enough money to pay for this.
Insurers are dropping out because they can't make money off of it.
So what do we do?
Well, Republicans just made that actually worse with this Senate bill because the bill retains Obamacare's core regulatory scheme.
And as I said yesterday, the bill is not designed to actually get rid of Obamacare.
This is not designed to lower taxes.
It is designed to lower the debt number so that they can get a tax Cut through, which is basically the, again, to the tax point.
It is designed to restructure Medicaid, which is a good thing, a very good thing.
Avik Roy is head over heels for the bill because it restructures Medicaid, which is a good thing.
And then it is designed to let Republicans say they repealed Obamacare, which is actually a really bad thing because you don't want to lie to the American people about Repealing Obamacare when you didn't repeal it because you're going to take ownership of a non-free market system in the name of the free market, which is always a disaster for Republicans.
So first of all, six things about this bill.
First, insurance companies will still be mandated to cover pre-existing conditions.
The minute you force insurance companies to do this, they begin hemorrhaging cash because people will wait until they get sick to get insurance.
The bill gets rid of the individual mandate, okay?
So it doesn't force people into the system.
Which means that these insurance companies will start to go bankrupt or they will start to raise their rates dramatically, which of course does not decrease the price of premiums, it increases the price of premiums.
The Republican bill leans heavily on subsidies and does away with the mandates and taxes, and that basically destroys the Obamacare individual market.
Daniel Horowitz of Conservative Review has this exactly right.
He says, So the idea here would be that if you got rid of a lot of the regulations, then insurers would compete to reduce premiums.
a few regulations, a provision that will not be strong enough to signal flexibility to insurers enough to reduce premiums.
So the idea here would be that if you got rid of a lot of the regulations, then insurers would compete to reduce premiums.
The bill doesn't do enough to do that.
The bill re-enshrines a bunch of subsidies to insurance companies.
As I talked about from Peter Studerman at Reason Magazine yesterday, the Republicans originally opposed the idea that the federal government was going to subsidize insurance companies.
Now, they're saying that it's great that the federal government is subsidizing insurance companies, and that is not great, okay?
And the reason they're subsidizing the insurance companies is because they kept all of the Obamacare regulations.
The bill also provides new entitlements for middle-income Americans.
So, right now, Obamacare gives subsidies for insurance purchase to families of four, making four times the federal poverty level.
It's about $100,000.
The Senate Republican bill reduces that to $86,000.
But as prices rise, which they will continue to do given the continuation of the regulations, the subsidies are not going to be enough.
Now, this is still better than the system that was in place from the House, so far as covering people and not forcing them onto Medicare, but it is a giant subsidy system.
It is an entitlement.
It alters Medicaid, and this is a good thing, but it does it mostly down the road.
So originally, the House bill that was proposed would have begun rolling back federal funding on a need-based basis from beginning in 2020 and ending the open-ended funding of expansion of Medicaid enrollees.
Now, the rollback has been kicked back to 2021, You know why.
It's because it's after Trump's reelection.
And in 2025, it creates a growth cap on Medicaid payments linked to inflation rather than health cost inflation, which means that basically instead of the federal government's Medicaid reimbursement being linked to the cost of health care, it's linked just to the dollar.
Well, the problem with that, of course, is that that means that Medicaid reimbursements are going to drop.
Which is okay, because that forces people onto private insurance, which they should be getting anyway, but it is never going to materialize anyway, because it's 2025.
If you really think that it's now 2016, uh, 2017, if you really think that eight years from now, anything is going to be certain, then you don't know how government works.
The bill does defund Planned Parenthood.
This is the stop to the conservatives.
It does it for one year, okay?
Medicaid is not able to fund Planned Parenthood for one year.
Not for four years, not for ten years, for one year.
And finally, As I say, the individual mandate and taxes disappear, which would be good, except for it exacerbating the Obamacare death spiral, for which Republicans will now be blamed.
So, I think Nate Silver basically has this right.
I'm just being intellectually honest here.
This bill is not a healthcare revision.
It is about restructuring Medicaid, which is good, but it does so in the long term when it's not actually going to materialize, and it is about tax cuts and ensuring that Republicans can get tax reform through.
Well, what this means is that there's been some blowback from some of the Republicans in the Senate.
I would not expect that Senator Cruz and Senator Lee, maybe, are going to stand against this.
I think that they may be posing an opening bargaining position.
I would hope that they would stand against the bill that doesn't repeal Obamacare after Ted Cruz shut down the government in order to propose the repeal of Obamacare.
I don't see why things have changed.
Here's Senator Cruz talking about it.
You can hear that there's a little bit of wiggle room here.
Senator Cruz, I think, would be interested In probably finding some sort of solution that allows him to save face.
We've been working collaboratively that entire time trying to solve the problems.
The underlying problems in healthcare.
This current draft doesn't get the job done.
But I believe we can get to yes.
I believe we can get this done.
There is an agreement to be reached.
And I have been, for the last five months, working around the clock to get to that agreement.
And I still believe we can get there.
The key to getting an agreement, to getting a bill that can pass, is we need common sense reforms in the bill that lower the cost of premiums.
The single biggest reason that so many people are unhappy with Obamacare, that are hurting under Obamacare, is because it's caused premiums to skyrocket.
When I'm home in Texas, I hear over and over again from Texans who say, I can't afford health insurance because of Obamacare.
We've got to fix that.
The current draft circulated this morning doesn't do nearly enough.
The problem is that nothing is going to be done to actually lower premiums.
We can stop it there.
The only reason that we're going to be able to lower cost of premiums is by getting rid of the core Obamacare regulations on pre-existing conditions.
The bill isn't going to do that.
We're going to get to the rest of the Republican reaction and why Democrats are chortling over this secretly.
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Okay, so, you know, said Cruz, sounds like he wants to vote for the thing.
I think this is going to pass.
I think it'll play out like this.
It'll play out exactly like the House bill.
The House bill was presented, and they said, we're going to rush this, rush it, rush it, rush it.
And then it failed.
And then they came back, and they made some very minor tweaks.
And there's a lot of public pressure, because it's like, oh, I guess we've held out long enough.
And then they passed basically the same bill as House Bill No.
1 with a few minor tweaks attached that didn't mean anything and that some of which have been stripped out by the Senate.
I think the same thing will probably happen here.
But Rand Paul's assessment of this is exactly correct.
He says this is still Obamacare.
It could still happen if the people who wrote the bill are willing to negotiate.
Conservatives want a repeal bill.
I want a bill that looks like, feels like, and is a repeal bill.
My fear is, when I look at this, I keep reading it, and it's like, it sounds like Obamacare to me.
It doesn't even sound like Obamacare Lite.
In some areas, it may be Obamacare Plus on the subsidy side.
We can't have a bill that spends more than Obamacare in the first couple years and call that a repeal bill.
So, yes, we should be for repeal, but we also have to have sufficient confidence in capitalism, competition, and free markets.
Okay, so what's hilarious about all of this is that as the Republicans rightly, the conservatives in the caucus rightly say this does not repeal Obamacare, the Democrats of course, it wouldn't matter what this did.
If it just said, we want the American Healthcare, the American Care Act, or the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare.
We just want Obamacare to be called Obamacare.
We're going to get rid of one letter.
The Democrats say, end of the world.
We're all going to die.
It's the worst thing that ever happened.
If you're going to get accused of that anyway, you may as well make the changes you want to make.
You may as well make the changes that are actually going to ensure the premiums come down, because no matter what you do, Democrats are going to claim that it's the end of the world.
You're going to kill people.
Elizabeth Warren is going to go out there and say it's blood money.
Here's Elizabeth Warren today saying it's blood money.
She grabbed her tomahawk and she was chanting around the fire.
Here's what she had to say.
This is a really terrible bill.
And make no mistake.
This bill is about tax breaks for the rich.
And this bill is about Republicans saying, hey, those are our priorities.
We're taking care of the people we care about, and everyone else can just bear the costs of it.
This is the moment to tell the Republicans in the United States Senate, to tell every one of the Republicans in the United States Senate, no.
This bill does not represent our values.
This bill is not who we are as a country.
We believe that health care is a basic human right, and we will get out there and fight for it.
And then she tweeted out, I've read the Republican health care bill.
This is blood money.
They're paying for tax cuts with American lives.
Blood money.
Okay, first of all, this lady takes much, muchos money from Planned Parenthood.
That's actual blood money.
But she talks about it's blood money and we're gonna die, everyone's gonna die, it's the worst thing ever.
This thing trims around the edges, it really does, and it increases subsidies in some areas, it gets rid of the individual mandate.
The idea, by the way, that's hilarious, that they're making cuts and then they're gonna make you pay for it.
Who's you?
Okay, I've been paying for Obamacare since its inception through my tax dollars.
I've been paying for Obamacare through increased premiums, and so have you.
So this idea that we're going to change the system and it's going to redistribute the costs, one of the great Democrat talking points here is they keep saying, well, this is a tax cut for the rich.
Excuse me, excuse me, or it's a redistribution of money from poor to rich.
Obamacare was the greatest redistributive move in modern history.
Moving wealth from the middle class to the poor.
Moving wealth from the young to the old.
Moving it from the healthy to the sick.
That's what Obamacare was.
And going back to status quo ante is not actually the destruction of some sort of grand system here.
But this is what Democrats are talking like.
Chuck Schumer says the same thing.
He says this would end health care as we know it.
Everyone's gonna die.
Even as we continue to get more details, The broad outlines are clear.
This is a bill designed to strip away health care benefits and protections from Americans who need it most in order to give a tax break to the folks who need it least.
This is a bill that would end Medicaid as we know it, rolling back Medicaid expansion, cutting federal support for the program even more than the House bill, which cut Medicaid by $800 billion.
From what is reported, In just three short years, under the Senate bill, Republicans will kick millions off their Medicaid coverage.
Okay, so again, Democrats are always going to claim this stuff.
Barack Obama went on Facebook and posted a long rant about how terrible the bill is and how everyone's going to die.
Democrats are always going to claim this.
They're always going to claim this.
And this is why Republicans ought to just do whatever the hell they want.
And pass a bill that does what they said it would do and repeal this piece of crap legislation instead of trimming around the edges because they actually want to keep it while lying to you about it.
That's what's really nasty about all of this.
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Finally, we have an answer on the tapes and all of that.
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I also want to talk about the fact that the Obama administration really did almost nothing To get on top of the Putin supposed election interference, while Democrats keep talking incessantly about how the election was hacked and it's all Trump's fault.
Really, if it's any president's fault, it's President Obama's fault.
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