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Jan. 23, 2017 - The Ben Shapiro Show
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Ep. 236 - Is Trump Illegitimate?
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On Monday, BuzzFeed headlined, These eight men own as much wealth as half the world.
This vital bit of information came with this supporting fact, courtesy of BuzzFeed special correspondent James Ball and UK editorial developer Chris Applegate, quote, The world's eight richest men are worth $426 billion.
$426 billion.
The world's poorest 3.7 billion people together own $409 billion, $17 billion less.
These statistics came courtesy of Oxfam.
BuzzFeed tuts, quote, the findings shed stark light on the scale of inequality across the world, with the figures also revealing that the wealthiest 1% of the population together own more than the remaining 99% combined.
The eight men who own as much as half the world are Microsoft founder Bill Gates, Zara founder Amancio Ortego, U.S. investor Warren Buffett, Carlos Slim Hilo, owner of Mexican conglomerate Grupo Carso, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison, and businessman and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg. Oracle co-founder Larry Ellison, and businessman and former New York Oxfam, which routinely stumps for global redistributionism, bewailed the wealth divide.
He said, quote, while one in nine people on the planet will go to bed hungry tonight, a small handful of billionaires have so much wealth they would need several lifetimes to spend it.
The fact that a super-rich elite are able to prosper at the expense of the rest of us at home and overseas shows how warped our economy has become.
Inequality is not only keeping millions of people trapped in poverty, it is fracturing our societies and poisoning our politics.
First off, there is no indicator anywhere in this report that the wealth of the world's eight wealthiest men was ill-gotten.
There is no record of them enslaving people or robbing banks or burning down rival businesses.
The reason these people are rich is because they have founded businesses that created better products and services and engaged in more consensual transactions than any other people on planet Earth.
Bill Gates' Microsoft created a reputed 12,000 millionaires among his employees.
Microsoft currently employs more than 100,000 people.
Microsoft employees have given more than $1 billion to charity.
Microsoft products have made millions of lives easier and better, and millions of businesses cheaper to run.
The same is true for Amazon, one of the world's great companies.
Certainly, as a consumer, I benefit from Amazon every single day.
It's true of Zara.
My wife loves it.
It's true of Facebook.
It's true of Oracle, among others.
Where exactly is the great sin?
Oxfam's implication seems to be that wealth belongs to the collected and we must therefore reallocate it.
Hence their language about a super rich elite prospering at our expense.
But these rich people aren't prospering at the expense of others.
Since 1981, the global extreme poverty rate has been sliced in half.
Meanwhile, from 1979 to 2014, the upper middle class in America grew from 12% of the population to 30% of the population.
America's poor are doing better than the middle class in most places on Earth, thanks to the glories of free market economics.
Here's what Pew Research said in 2015, quote, The U.S.
stands head and shoulders above the rest of the world.
More than half, 56% of Americans, were high income by the global standard.
More than 32% were upper middle income.
In other words, almost 9 in 10 Americans had a standard of living that was above the global middle income standard.
Only 7% of people in the United States were middle income, 3% were low income, and only 2% were poor.
The quest for income inequality is a fool's errand.
That's because the only way to rectify imbalances is to punish successful risk-taking.
The reason that investors make greater profits than those who do the actual work is because the investor takes the risk necessary in order to create a profit margin with which to pay those people.
Oxfam neglects to mention where the world's poorest people live.
According to the World Bank, two-thirds of the world's poorest human beings live in India, China, Nigeria, Bangladesh, and Congo.
The Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom ranks these countries thusly in terms of their participation in free markets and their governmental dedication to rule of law and private property rights.
India ranks 120th.
Congo ranks 168th.
China ranks 137th.
Nigeria ranks 129th.
China ranks 137th. Nigeria ranks 129th. Bangladesh ranks 131st.
So Oxfam's solution is to regulate markets more around...
A richer world relies on freer markets both at home and abroad.
But the foolish, inconsistent focus on income inequality merely provides cover for policies that actually enhance human suffering rather than mitigating it.
I'm Ben Shapiro.
This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
So, so glad that you could join us here on Martin Luther King Day, a great day for America.
It's also a great day for me.
Yesterday was my birthday, so woohoo to me.
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All right.
So now we can actually jump into the news of the day with all the birthday paraphernalia put aside.
We can jump into the news of the day.
So the big news of the day, obviously, it's Martin Luther King Day.
And we'll get to how Democrats are exploiting race because it's Martin Luther King Day.
But I want to start that with an article from a guy named Oliver Thomas.
Oliver Thomas writes this piece for For USA Today.
And the piece is totally nuts.
The piece is titled.
This is why it's getting all sorts of attention.
The piece was titled, Whites Killed MLK.
Now we honor him.
So I wasn't there.
But it wasn't me.
My parents were around at that time.
Wasn't them.
In fact, there were lots of white people who were around at that time, and it wasn't those people, actually.
It was just, like, the guy who did it.
But what is this thing really about?
It's all about virtue signaling.
It's about virtue signaling.
So what the piece says is, quote, seems like every time Dr. King showed up somewhere, things got torn up or burned up.
So we killed him.
Not me, of course.
I'm not a racist.
But who thinks he is?
So we tried to fix it.
Made his birthday a national holiday.
Put him on a pedestal where we can honor him and he can't poke us in the eye.
This neglects a few kind of crucial issues with regard to the civil rights movement.
A lot of white Americans back the civil rights movement, which is why it was successful.
It turns out that the black population of the United States is approximately 10%.
You need a lot of other race allies in order to make a success if you are a minority group.
That's just the reality of politics.
Okay, second, if you look at the faces in the Selma march, pretty diverse group.
And it was Martin Luther King's recognition, unlike Malcolm X, early Malcolm X, it was Martin Luther King's recognition that you actually needed to work with people across the racial spectrum in order to move forward with individual civil rights that made him successful.
He was successful not just because he was a fantastic orator and a really profound thinker on racial matters, but because he actually had the foresight to reach out to people who are not black as allies.
But today's civil rights leaders are not interested in that.
Malcolm X actually won the war.
I think Martin Luther King won the battle and Malcolm X won the war in a lot of ways because now we have racial polarization on all fronts.
Not even late Malcolm X, like after Malcolm X became an actual Muslim as opposed to a member of the Nation of Islam.
And started talking about racial tolerance and then got shot for his trouble by the members of the Nation of Islam, allegedly.
But like early Malcolm X, like white devil's Malcolm X.
There's a certain resonance to that in today's politics that was supposed to be gone a while ago.
So this white preacher, this fellow Thomas, Oliver Thomas, he continues along these lines.
He says, quote, I'll let Ta-Nehisi Coates boil it down for you.
First of all, you should never let Ta-Nehisi Coates boil down anything for you.
Ta-Nehisi Coates is a wildly overrated writer.
He's a wildly overrated thinker.
I mean, I think that Ta-Nehisi Coates' worldview can be summed up by the fact that he wrote in one of his pieces or in his book that during 9-11 he was sitting on the top of his apartment building watching 9-11 happen and he didn't feel anything.
Ta-Nehisi Coates said, quote, so this is from Oliver Thomas, White society was not achieved through wine tastings and ice cream socials, but rather through the pillaging of life, liberty, labor, and land.
In short, through three centuries of kidnapping, torture, murder, and rape.
We built an entire society on these bruised and broken backs, that and countless Native Americans driven off their land.
I have been asked to speak at a Martin Luther King Day event.
Me, a white preacher, speaking to a predominantly black audience filled with gifted preachers.
Well, here's the message.
No white person understands the black experience.
And this is what the left wants you to take away from Martin Luther King Day, is that you should judge people by the color of their skin, not the contents of their character.
And we can never have a situation in which a little black child and a little white child hold hands and walk into the future together.
We can't have that because the black kid can't understand the white kid, and mostly the white kid really can never understand the black kid.
First of all, this is just not factually true.
Obviously we should lament and decry and remember the absolute evils of slavery and the horrors of Jim Crow, but to suggest that American power was built on the back of slavery is economically illiterate and morally obtuse.
It really is.
Slavery is not an institution that benefits societies economically speaking.
It doesn't.
Slavery is actually backwards.
This is one of the reasons why the North was wildly out-competing the South during the Civil War.
I mean, you would have imagined that the side with all the slaves would have won if slavery were all that great for the economy.
Slavery is not good for the economy, it turns out.
It turns out that wages are much better for the economy than slavery is.
So the idea that we built our economic power on the back of slavery is just not true.
We actually built our economic power in spite of slavery.
The Great British Empire really became the Great British Empire after outlawing slavery.
America got more powerful in spite of slavery.
We got more powerful in spite of Jim Crow, not because of Jim Crow.
One of the things that a lot of the kind of revisionist racialists like to say is America only became powerful and wealthy because of Jim Crow.
Are you kidding?
It turns out that taking 10% of your population and treating them like animals is not good for the economy.
It's not actually good for the economy.
You're losing all of the intellectual... Forget about the moral issues involved.
Forget about the moral evil of that.
You're losing all the intellectual capital.
You're losing all the hard work.
You're losing all the marketable skills.
The Constitution of the United States is great, not because it enshrines slavery permanently, but because it was a step toward abolishing slavery.
That's what the Constitution was designed to do.
When you hear people talk about the Three-Fifths Law and how racist the Three-Fifths Law was, the whole purpose of the Three-Fifths Law in the Constitution, the whole purpose of the Three-Fifths provision, is because the North did not want the South to be able to vote for continuing slavery by counting slaves as citizens for purposes of allocation of votes.
They came up with this compromise so they could actually have a functional country.
But the purpose of the Three-Fifths Clause was partially to get rid of slavery.
The Declaration of Independence, as Frederick Douglass made clear, was not because it was particular to white people, but because it was universal.
Frederick Douglass was very passionate about the Declaration of Independence.
So all of this is just historically not true, but it's the message of it that's really gross.
So, Martin Luther King did, and the reason that, you know, you're proud to show videos of Martin Luther King to your kids, my daughter is a little too young to understand it, she's only just turning three next week, but as soon as she's old enough to understand it, I'm going to be proud and honored to show her speeches of Martin Luther King at the March on Washington.
Because King appealed to our common humanities, individual human beings.
The fact that we could understand the black experience even if we could never fully experience it.
We can never fully experience what anyone else in society is going through.
I can't live somebody else's experience.
That's not possible.
But I can understand.
I can empathize with what they're going through.
And that allows me to – I can think about what it would be like if I were they, and then I can figure out what exactly to do about that.
That's the whole point.
Common understanding is necessary in order to cure anything.
If you're starting from the point of, I can never understand you, that actually leads to more tribalism, not less tribalism.
Why would I care about somebody I can't understand?
If a species of alien came down and there was no way to understand them, would that generate more sympathy or less sympathy?
The whole purpose of establishing lines of communication is to understand each other better.
This is counterproductive racially.
Martin Luther King's whole schtick, his whole spiel, was that individual decency trumps group grievance.
Particularly for white folks.
Like white folks can't do this group grievance routine against black folks.
They actually have to treat black folks as individuals.
And black folks likewise have to treat white folks as individuals.
So saying that all whites killed Martin Luther King is just as inane as saying all Democrats killed Martin Luther King.
It's just as inane as saying all Muslims are responsible for every terror attack.
It's silly.
It's counterproductive.
It doesn't actually establish the ties that need to happen in order to achieve.
Beyond which, Islam is actually a philosophy.
White is not a philosophy.
It's a color.
And the fact is, the Civil Rights Act was passed by a bunch of white people.
The fact is, Jim Crow was ended by a bunch of white people.
Yes, it took black leadership to do that.
Thank God for the black leaders.
Thank God for people like John Lewis, who we'll get to in a second.
But that doesn't mean that it didn't take a coalition of people across racial lines in order to reach success.
I mean, if you want racial reconciliation, the reason that Martin Luther King is a great figure and Malcolm X is not a great figure is because Malcolm X's perspective on race is counterproductive and leads to polarization.
Martin Luther King's perspective on race is a deeply American one.
A uniquely American one.
And that's why we celebrate his birthday today.
Now, meanwhile, Donald Trump has been elected president.
And of course, that means it's time for the left to completely lose its freaking mind.
I mean, they've gone completely nuts.
Representative John Lewis led it off.
John Lewis, of course, was famous because he led the attempt to break the segregation in the South.
He was clubbed about the ears for his trouble.
And so a real civil rights hero, John Lewis.
But just because, you know, as I get older, one of the things that I tend to realize is that there are no heroes, there are no villains, there are just people who do heroic things and people who do villainous things.
People are people.
Like you can say if somebody is a saint over the course of their life, then they're a saint over the course of their life.
But a lot of people who do heroic things also say stupid things.
A lot of people who do really villainous things also do good things.
And it's easier as a human being to label action rather than to label people.
I'll say that John Lewis was a civil rights hero here.
He did very heroic things during the civil rights struggle.
That does not mean he's anywhere close to right on what he's about to say about Donald Trump here.
I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president.
You do not consider him a legitimate president?
Why is that?
I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected.
And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
I don't plan to attend the inauguration.
It will be the first one that I miss since I've been in the Congress.
You cannot be at home with something that you feel that is wrong.
That's going to send a big message to a lot of people in this country that you don't believe he's a legitimate president.
I think that was a conspiracy on the part of the Russians and others.
To help him get elected.
That's not right.
That's not fair.
That's not an open, democratic process.
Okay, so, you know, whatever you think of the Russian interference in the election, the fact is there was a legitimate vote held based on the information that was available to the public, and Hillary Clinton lost.
So John Lewis is wrong here.
So Donald Trump naturally goes to Twitter to respond, and here are his tweets.
Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart, Not to mention crime-infested, rather than falsely complaining about the election results.
All talk, talk, talk.
No action or results.
Sad!
Right?
There's that typical Trump sad with the exclamation point.
Congressman John Lewis should finally focus on the burning and crime-infested inner cities of the U.S.
I can use all the help I can get.
So, you know, is this typically subtly worded Donald Trump?
No, this is pretty typical Trump.
But Trump's not wrong about the fact that if this were reversed, everybody on the left would lose their mind, right?
If this were somebody saying that Hillary Clinton were not a legitimate president.
In fact, when Donald Trump said that Barack Obama was not a legitimate president, that he was born outside the United States, everybody rightly went nuts.
Now, everybody's getting on Trump for this.
And there are a bunch of people on the left who said that Trump was attacking John Lewis racially.
Nina Turner.
who's a commentator on CNN, former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner.
This is what she had to say about Donald Trump's response to John Lewis.
Well, he's Congressman John Lewis.
I just want to say that to make sure that we give him the requisite respect that he deserves.
And 50 years ago, everything that he did is still important today.
Now, I, as a Democrat, we know that the Russians had some impact, but they didn't go vote on Election Day.
They didn't mess with the electronic data.
So there are some Democrats that get that.
And they didn't write the emails.
Democrats are going to have to wear that.
But at the same time, what The president-elect needs to do, this is not The Apprentice, the White House edition.
His tweets were insensitive.
For him to categorize Congressman Trump, excuse me, Congressman Lewis' district as in bad shape.
Crime infested.
Crime infested.
It's not, by the way.
Fortune 500 companies.
It's about 58% African American.
More house installment.
Right.
Institutions of higher learning.
It is diverse ethnically and it is diverse economically.
So my memo to my white elected officials, not just President Elect Trump, but a lot of white elected officials make this mistake in making the African American community a very Homogeneous.
They read us the wrong way.
They think everybody's poor, everybody's broken down.
That is not the truth.
So they need to come and visit some African-American communities.
Okay, so she's implying that Trump is a racist because he said that Lewis's district was crime-infested and in bad shape.
Here are the actual facts about John Lewis's district.
This is Georgia's fifth congressional district as compared to the state average and the national average.
Okay, here it is from the Census Bureau.
The unemployment rate in John Lewis's district as of 2015 was 8.2%.
The state average was 5.5%.
The national average was 5%.
So, is there way higher unemployment in John Lewis's district?
Answer, yes.
There is much higher unemployment in John Lewis's district.
Okay, when you look at the poverty rate, the poverty rate is 17.3% in Georgia's 5th district, it's 17% state average, 13.5% nationally, a little bit higher than the state average, a lot higher than the national average.
Now there's some major businesses that are located in John Lewis' district, but the crime rates are also They are higher in John Lewis's district.
Okay, so Atlanta is located inside Lewis's district.
It had the 14th highest violent crime rate in the United States in 2015 with 1,120 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, which is triple the national average.
That's triple the national average.
Okay, so is Trump wildly wrong on all of this?
No, Trump isn't wildly wrong on all of this.
Should Lewis be doing a better job for his district?
Yes.
He should be doing a better job for his district.
Does one thing have to do with another?
No.
Is it the way that I would have phrased it?
No.
But to claim that Trump is a big racist because he's pointing out that Lewis's district isn't in the greatest shape ever, that is a stretch.
By the way, he would say the same thing about some white person's district, right?
If a white person had insulted him, he would have said exactly the same thing, and you know he would if you're on the left.
You know Trump has no holds barred.
If you attack him in any way, he is going to loose the hounds of Twitter on you.
And that means that he's going to call your district crime-ridden, and he'll compare it to Mad Max.
And it'll just be Mel Gibson running through the Australian wasteland, according to Donald Trump.
It doesn't matter, right?
I mean, he said Meryl Streep was an overrated actress because she insulted him at the Golden Globes.
Do you really think that if John Lewis were white, he wouldn't have said the same thing?
It's just really silly all around.
But the left is really attempting now to push this notion that Donald Trump is an illegitimate president.
We'll talk about that a little bit more in just a second.
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Okay, so final note before we have to sign off here on Facebook and YouTube.
So, the left is fully invested in calling Donald Trump illegitimate.
And the right seems very perturbed about this.
Oh, it's totally inappropriate for them to say it's illegitimate, that Trump is illegitimate.
OK, the left did it for years.
OK, the left isn't it.
They've been saying that they said Bush was illegitimate.
They said that they say that right now Trump is illegitimate.
Every time a Republican is elected, it's illegitimate, right?
Everything is illegitimate that the right does.
And it's now coming from both sides, right?
Donald Trump said that Barack Obama was basically illegitimate.
Paul Krugman, who just a week ago was saying that Republicans are alienating too many people and polarizing the political discourse, wrote a column today in which he said, let's not talk about Mr. Trump's ravings.
Instead, let's ask whether Mr. Lewis was right to say what he said.
Is it okay?
Morally and politically, to declare the man about to move into the White House illegitimate?
Yes, it is.
In fact, it's an act of patriotism.
So, now we're back in the space where dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's just amazing how the positions switch as soon as the shoe is on the other foot.
As soon as Trump gets elected, then it's fine to say that the president is illegitimate.
If the results had been exactly the same and Republicans had said Hillary is illegitimate, she shouldn't have been running, she's a criminal, the left would have said, how dare you?
You accept her, she's your president.
She's your president.
You accept that.
It's just amazing.
There is no penalty, by the way, for calling the president just on a political note.
It's actually beneficial.
We've reached the point in American politics where casting the other side's winners as illegitimate is actually a very useful tactic.
Really, the left did this for George W. Bush for years and years and years.
Nancy Pelosi did it for years and years and years.
It was very successful for her.
Donald Trump did it for Barack Obama.
It was very successful for him.
I think this is just part of the new political discourse, and we're all going to have to get used to it, is calling the other side illegitimate no matter what the actual results.
The only time I haven't seen that is with Obama 2012.
To Obama 2012, I didn't see a lot of Obama is an illegitimate president from the right, even though he'd obviously lied about what happened in Benghazi in order to prop himself up at the end of the election cycle, even though the media were obviously propping him up.
He was a legitimate president.
I didn't see a lot of that from the right.
But it's become sort of a ball to be batted around.
By both sides.
So none of this is particularly surprising.
Dianne Feinstein is also saying that Donald Trump is illegitimate because Russia interfered.
We've got a huge destruction of our system going on.
So we have to be full and robust in this look.
And I trust that we are.
I have worked with Chairman Burr for a long time, and I believe that this can happen.
If it doesn't, we will sing out loud and clear.
Let me buttonhole something, though.
You said you believe that Russia's interference altered the outcome of the election.
I do.
I believe that.
It's a combination of a couple of things.
I think that and I think the FBI in the October surprise, I call it an October surprise, of announcing a subsequent investigation did have an impact.
Wow, she invented the term October Surprise, who knew?
But yes, the Democrats are just going to keep saying this.
The Democratic chair candidate is saying the same thing, that Trump was allegedly elected.
We can play that as well.
He's truth telling.
I don't think this is about just Democrats.
This is Americans.
Anyone with a smidgen of common sense can remember Donald Trump looking in the camera, encouraging Russia to hack into our electoral process.
Cheerleading them on, and the idea that whatever information these members of Congress are getting out of this classified briefing had them storm out of that room makes it very clear that the decisions that the FBI made that were unprecedented to get involved in the election against Hillary Clinton, pick a winner, pick a loser, when they had so much information that was so damaging, what have we been talking about since this man was allegedly elected?
All allegedly elected are now coming out of Russia.
You acknowledge that he achieved the necessary electoral votes and is a legitimately elected President of the United States, would you not?
Well, I haven't seen the classified briefing that the members of Congress did.
I imagine that I won the election.
Okay, so one of the questions that we're going to be asking as we continue here on the Ben Shapiro Show is whether this is good strategy or not, because there's a bit of a split opening up in the Democratic Party.
We've also got to talk about Trump going after SNL.
We've got to talk about Trump on Obamacare.
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