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Feb. 15, 2025 - Brother Nathanael
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“White Babies Now!” and “The Truth About Jewish Power” Brother Nathanael’s Most Explosive Claims
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Happy Valentine's Day, everybody.
Welcome to the Kim Iverson Show.
Thank you so much for being here.
I don't know how this conversation is going to go.
I'm a little nervous about what our guest is going to say.
Our guest tonight is Brother Nathaniel, host of Bible with Brother.
He grew up Jewish, then became an Orthodox Christian later in life.
He's made quite a few controversial, fiery statements, which have...
Led to him being listed in the Anti-Defamation League Glossary of Extremism and Hate.
He says no one understands Kanye better than him and that Christianity is being destroyed throughout the world.
He recently posted White Babies Now, which caused a lot of controversy and maybe even some misunderstanding.
We'll have him clarify on all of that.
But I got to be honest, I have no idea what he's going to say.
And whether or not I'm going to regret having this conversation.
Oh, Brother Nathaniel, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for being here.
Oh, I'm so glad to be here.
And Valentine's message, I love all of mankind.
That means male and female, okay?
Mankind.
Okay, okay, all right.
Okay, so let's just get right to the nitty-gritty.
Let's start off with, do you hate Jews?
Because that is the big, you don't.
Well, why would I hate anybody, okay?
Now, maybe some people's actions, maybe their conduct, but no, I don't hate anybody.
And what's interesting when you ask me that, I'm still hooked into the Jewish community.
It's kind of impossible not to.
When you have a Jewish nefesh, that means you're unique.
You have a Jewish soul, which Gentiles don't have, okay?
And they're always reaching out to me to do teshuva.
That means repentance, okay?
And don't accuse me of hate.
The Jews, that is, rabbis or others, they accuse me of being M'shumid.
That means a traitor.
That's worse.
Interesting.
Okay.
So tell us about your upbringing and then your conversion.
Now, let me just ask you, what you're wearing right now, is this actual religious garb or is this costume?
It's religious on steroids.
I'm very religious, Kim.
I'm the most religious guy you'll ever meet.
I was brought up religious in Judaism.
Now I'm very religious in the Russian Orthodox Church, the Orthodox Church.
I'm super religious.
Okay.
There's nobody more religious than me.
Maybe you.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
But this is...
No, no, no.
Women got a certain religion that men can't have.
Okay?
But we can talk about that some other time.
Now, this is...
I'm a taunster, they say, because they clip your hair.
Monk.
Monastic.
And I was in a monastery for 10 years, and my bishops know that.
And then I got what they call a blessing or permission or allowance or a go-ahead, whatever you want to call it, to be in public ministry.
But I am a monastic.
I am a monk.
I was in a monastery for 10 years, quiet, praying, working on what we call the Jesus Prayer.
But then, because of my communication skills and my just incredible personality, I had given, you know, the go-ahead.
I'm not going to use religious language here.
To go out and talk to people about who I love the most.
That's Jesus Christ.
Jesus, Yeshua HaMashiach.
I love him so much, I want to tell everybody about him.
It's like a love song, okay?
Right.
So you have the blessing of the Russian Orthodox Church to be out in public talking the way that you do.
Absolutely, I do.
No question about it.
But it's particularly from my spiritual authority.
Yeah, because we go by, who's your spiritual authority?
And if he gives you the blessing, then that's it.
You know, I'm under our spiritual authority, so to speak.
But it's not tyrannical.
It's just a nice thing.
Why the Russian Orthodox Church and not like Catholicism or?
Greek Orthodox Church or any of these other, I guess, Christian denominations?
Well, I think it's because of my experience.
I was reading my mother's book, War and Peace, in 1987 in the winter.
And it's one of our heirlooms.
My mother was a great, she was Russian, and she loved the Russian literists like Tolstoy.
And Dostoyevsky and many of the others, okay, Gogol and Chekhov.
And so I'm reading Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace.
And he has the most sublime passages about the Russian Orthodox Church services and the Russian Orthodox Church spirituality.
And it was so deep.
It was so soft.
And it wasn't like the Baptists, because I was with the Jews for Jesus at that time, who I called Baptists with yamukes on.
And I was so moved.
I was so moved by it, Kim.
I said, I gotta check this out because one passage in Leo Tolsoi's War and Peace is about the priest giving a sermon in very soft tones.
I said, boy, I never heard that.
I said, crash, bang, boom, going to hell.
Soft tones?
A sermon?
Oh, I gotta check this out.
So I go.
I'm in Boston at the time.
I was a salesman.
Straight commission salesman for 25 years.
And I go to this church, Holy Trinity Orthodox Cathedral.
As soon as I walk in, everyone's standing.
There's a choir on the right side.
There's a choir on the left side.
There's incense.
And the iconostasis reminded me of the Old Covenant temple.
The Old Testament temple is covering an altar.
And the choir's on this side singing a psalm, and then they're answered on the other side, answering a psalm.
And it's just icons everywhere of biblical scenes from the Old Testament.
And as a Jew, I said, I'm home.
That's it.
And others have had the same experience.
When they first walked into an Orthodox Church, they just say, I'm home.
That's what happened to me.
Okay.
So you made the conversion.
Now, I don't know.
I mean, I'm completely ignorant to this.
I grew up with a Catholic and a Buddhist parent, and then I actually converted to Mormonism for many years and was Mormon for a long time, and then left, and I don't believe.
I'm not religious, really, if anything, more Buddhist than anything now.
Greek Orthodox Church or Russian Orthodox Church.
I've seen some around me.
If I were to walk into those buildings, are they speaking Russian and are they speaking Greek?
Like, is the whole sermon in that language?
It's different depending on the people that go.
So it could be in what's called Church Lamonic.
It could be in Greek or many, excuse me, are now doing it in just complete English and there's just converts.
Converts like me from Judaism, converts from nothing, or converts from the Baptist Church.
Tons and tons, excuse me, of young kids are coming into the Orthodox Church.
Tons of them.
I was just at a parish in D.C., and it was wall to wall, 20 to 40-year-old kids with babies.
If there's no crying, the church is dying.
So it was all in English, yeah.
What is it that is appealing about the Orthodox, you know, Russian Orthodox versus like Catholicism, would you say?
Well, for me, it was just like I'm at home, experienced.
And you know, in those first impressions, like love at first sight kind of thing, it just stinks.
So it just stuck, and there was no sense of me looking at anywhere else.
That's the kind of guy I'm, I'm a very immediate type of person.
Okay, so you've made a lot of controversial statements.
The statements...
I'll make more!
Not here, though.
Not here.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
A lot of the statements that you make are about Jews.
And you are...
You say...
First of all, I want to clarify something.
So you say on your Twitter account, you say that you are...
I'm sorry.
You say you're racially Jew.
You actually distinguish between racial and ethnic.
So you say you're not an ethnic Jew.
You're a racial Jew.
I'm American.
Ethnicity is your country.
I mean, I learned that in third grade.
Okay, so you're saying, like, how would you be ethnically Jewish?
Is that Israel, do you think?
Or is there such a thing?
No, no.
Ethnically, I'm an American.
I was more than an American.
I'm an American citizen.
Ethnos is your country.
Racial is what I am by race.
That will never change.
And if I... Try to change it.
I'll be reminded.
Recently, I was in Times Square holding up the cross and three Negro women came out to me very good looking in their 40s.
They came right up to my face.
And the one young lady in her 40s says, he looks so Jewish.
The other one says, yeah, unmistakably a Jew.
And I said, yeah, I'm a Jew for Jesus.
And they broke out laughing and I just broke it up.
Then they're taking pictures, we're hugging, and, you know, it was beautiful.
So you think that you are racial, so you think there is such a thing as racial, being a racial Jew?
Absolutely.
My mother and father, my father is of Austrian extraction, and my mother is of Russian extraction.
So then why wouldn't you just be Russian and Austrian?
Because I'm American.
I was born in America.
I'm an American citizen.
No, I know, but they're white, right?
I mean, they're Russian and they're Austrian, so that makes them...
We never really identified as whites.
We identified as Jews, as being Shemites.
But let me tell you what the family tree was.
It wasn't to trace the ethnicity.
When a Jew does a family tree, it's to trace their Jewishness, okay?
Their race as a Jew.
That was what's important.
And I'll tell you a story about that, about the Jews that come up to me in New York.
So on my father's side, Austrian, 12 generations back, all Jews, both on the father and mother.
Same with my mother's side, Russian, all Jews on the father and the mother.
So racially, I'm a Jew.
Now I'll tell you a story.
The Hasids come up to me.
When I'm in New York, pulling up the cross, okay?
Because they look at me and they automatically know I'm a Jew.
It's, you know, I look Jewish, okay?
So they come up to me, the Hasids, and the first thing they say to me is, your mother Jew?
Now, I know what they're getting at.
I look Jewish and they just want to pin it down because Judaism...
After the 8th century, started tracing your Jewish lineage from your mother matrilineally, no longer passionately.
So as soon as they say to me, is your mother Jew?
I know what's coming next.
They're going to pull out the tefillin.
They're going to try to lay it on me.
They're going to try to tell me to do teshuva.
They're going to tell me to take up the cross.
So as soon as they say, your mother Jew, they say it in that Brooklyn accent.
Your mother Jew?
I say, 12 generations back.
Now they're ready to convert me.
It's funny, really.
I could do a satire on it.
Yeah, interesting.
Well, you just brought up something that I think a lot of people don't realize, and you just said that back in the, that it shifted from patrilineal to matrilineal.
And that is something that, I've known that, but a lot of my Jewish friends, I'll even ask them and say, you know, I'll bring that up, and they'll kind of look confused, like, no, it's since the dawn of time.
It's been traced back.
They think forever.
It's always been matrilineal.
And then I always say, how does that work?
Because in the Bible, like when you read the Old Testament or the whatever, you know, the Torah, I guess, it's, I mean, what we know is it's always been patrilineal.
I mean, every single listing in Scripture has been the father, the father, the father of the father of the father of.
I mean, they don't even mention the women at all.
Well, let's get right to the chase.
Ruth was a Gentile.
She was a Moabitess, yet she was a grandmother of King David.
All right?
So if you want to do this mother thing, you can say, oh, he's half-Jew or quarter-Jew.
He can't be a prophet.
He can't really be the one who's the progenitor of Moshiach.
No, it was always from the father.
So the rabbis decided there's various ways of looking at it, which is...
It becomes a little complex.
In the 8th century AD, they decided we'll trace it from the mother.
But this is not biblical.
There's so much in rabbinic Judaism that is just not biblical.
And you've read the Bible how many times?
Yeah, you've been reading the Bible a lot.
300 times.
Well, since childhood.
See, my dad was a scholar.
I'm not.
And he wanted us.
He was the head of the Shabbos school.
And in many ways, he was a big macher.
We would call it, okay, with money and all that stuff.
I grew up in an upper middle class home, and he made sure that the Shabbos teachers taught us Jewish kids from the time we were, you know, six, the prophets.
Very few people read the prophets.
I read it from childhood.
It's called Nebim.
In Hebrew parlance, okay?
So I studied the prophets from a kid.
And people sometimes say, how can you talk that way?
I said, I know the prophets.
But they still don't know what I'm talking about.
Because the prophets.
See, as Jewish kids, we were forbidden to read the prophet Yehaskil, Ezekiel.
We were forbidden.
Because there's some very, very strong passages in there that would be considered X-rated.
All right, you tell a kid who's 8, 10 years old not to do something.
He's going to do it.
So we all got together.
We all got together at Harold Rosenberg's house, and we pulled out the Hebrew Scriptures, and we started reading it.
Oh, it's X-rated.
Oh, boy.
All right, so this is when I grew up as a kid.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so to these controversial statements that you've made, so you believe you are racially Jewish, but you say a lot of things that are quite...
I know it.
I know I'm racially Jewish.
Yeah, I don't agree.
I don't agree, because I don't think that Jewishness is a race.
I think it's a religion, and that's why there's Black Jews, and there's Middle Eastern Jews, and there's white Russian Jews, right?
So to me, it can't possibly be a race.
It's both.
Yeah, I just don't think it's both.
I think it's a religion.
And part of the thinking of the religion is that it can be passed down.
You know, most religions don't do this.
Most religions, you still have to accept Christianity, for example.
We don't believe in birthright Christianity, right?
I don't think there's any sect of Christianity that believes in birthright Christianity.
I think in Christianity, every Christian has to believe.
In Christ.
Every Christian has to make that choice to believe in Jesus Christ, right?
So that's part of every Christian religion.
And you have the choice to reject it.
And even if your parents are both Catholic and they've been Catholic for 12 generations back, it doesn't make you automatically Catholic.
The Catholic Church requires that you go through certain aspects in order to be, you know, you have to go through catechism and confirmation in order to be a Catholic.
Judaism, though, is unique in that it has this portion of the belief system that it can be passed down through the womb, through the mother, and at one point shifted from patrilineal to matrilineal.
And so, but again, the fact that it shifted even from patrilineal to matrilineal, right there just goes to show that, you know, this is something that's kind of decided on at some point, and it's not, but that, even though that's...
Even though that's in the religion, I still don't think that makes it racial.
It's just...
It can seem racial, but do you see what I'm saying?
I just don't think it's racial.
I know what you're saying, but...
Yeah.
Can I answer you from a Judaic, traditional Judaism point of view, which I grew up with?
Yes.
Okay.
And any rabbi would agree with me.
The way Jews understand themselves.
I'll give you an example.
I'll make it live.
My father had a photographic memory.
He had the whole dictionary just photographed.
So we're reading the New Testament together and I'm showing him all the passages from the New Testament that harks back to the old such and such makes it fulfilled in Jesus.
So my dad had it photographed.
So he says, okay, I'm going to go talk to the rabbi about this.
So he goes to our rabbi.
I guess I wasn't really attached to the synagogue at any time, but I knew the rabbi and I had a relationship with him, which wasn't so hot really.
But anyways, he goes to the rabbi.
He comes back and he says, all the rabbi could do was slander my son, me.
Okay, Mendel.
That's my Hebrew name.
So I said, well, you didn't get a chance to discuss it with him.
He says, no.
All he said was don't listen to...
My son, he's emotionally disturbed.
That's the go-to discrediting that I'm emotionally disturbed or I'm on meds or something.
Okay.
So I said, well, we've gone through this, Dad.
We've had maybe eight sessions on this.
And you nodded your head each time.
Do you believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
He said, yes, I'm convinced.
But...
I was born a Jew.
I will die a Jew.
I will be crossing over to the goyim if I embrace Jesus.
It had nothing to do with religion.
It had everything to do with race.
Racially, he was a Jew, and there's no way he's going to go over to the goyim to believe in Jesus.
Do you understand that?
I understand that that is what Jews believe.
I understand Jews believe that they're a race.
And to me, this is the fundamental problem.
This is why I talk about this and I debate this particularly, because this is, to me, the fundamental crux of the issue.
If you believe you're a race rather than a religion, and I'm not saying you, but I'm not saying you necessarily.
I'm just saying in general.
But it isn't.
Then it has created what we're seeing in Palestine, for example.
It's created a...
Superiority issue, because it's not, you know, and even within Jews, it's, well, if you're born a Jew to a Jewish mother, you're more Jewish than the Jew who's not, you know, whose mother converted to Judaism, and then you were born to her, like you're lesser than, or, you know, there's some hierarchy there, or even a complete lack of acceptance.
I mean, there'll be a lot of rabbis that won't even accept a convert into Judaism at all.
So, I don't think it's...
I understand that that is what Jews believe, but I just don't agree.
I mean, there's just no way because there's Black Jews and Middle Eastern Jews and White Jews.
I'll give you another story.
Sidney Rabinowitz was a big mocker in our synagogue, okay?
And his wife passed away, so to speak, or died, okay?
And then he started getting involved with what we would call Behind his back, a shiksa.
She wasn't Jewish.
He was madly in love with her.
She was beautiful and everything.
Okay.
So she's going to prepare to go through the mikvah, which is a conversion ritual of a shiksa.
You go under this water.
It's a water ritual.
Okay.
She was the best Jew in that synagogue.
The best, okay?
She knew.
She even knew some Talmud.
She knew Torah.
Oh, and she just knew how to do the Shabbos at home because I was invited.
Oh, she had the headdress on and Hebrew prayers.
Just terrific, okay?
But she was a shiksa.
Now they had a child, the daughter.
The mother's not Jewish.
The mother's a shiksa.
She was never accepted in the synagogue.
She was a second-class citizen, but the best Jew religiously, but she didn't have the right blood.
Right, but that's why I'm saying it's a problem.
Right, and that's why I'm saying that I think for Jews like who you just described, that's obviously a problem, but it's also a problem for Jews in general when you look at Nazi Germany who believed that Jews were a racial group and wanted to eradicate that racial group.
The ideology of separating a group of people based on their beliefs into a race is dangerous on every account, or just wrong on every account, just because it's created all of this division.
Well, that's what they do.
Yeah, I get it, I get it, but I just don't agree with it.
Gallant said, when October 7th happened, Gallant, ahead of the idea, said, We're going to exterminate these animals.
That's what he said.
Now, I understand that.
It's wrong.
It's evil.
But that's how the Jew thinks.
They're animals.
Because they don't have a Jewish nefesh.
I understand Judaism so well.
And how Jews think.
Okay, so that brings me to the comments.
That you've made it to where ADL has got you.
Not that we take what they say for worth anything.
The ADL lists anybody and everybody in their extremism and hate guide.
Have they listed you yet?
Not yet, but I'm sure after this they will.
You make a lot of comments about Jews.
You believe you're racially Jewish, but then you say a lot of things against Jews.
When you're saying those things on your Twitter account, And you're making these kind of statements of like the bad things that the Jews are doing or something.
And you're kind of using it as a, I guess, I mean, so where are you coming from with that when you say things like that?
Are you insulting yourself because you're racially Jewish?
No, because my conduct and the way I... Assess social events and cultural events and political events is from the point of view of being a baptized Orthodox Christian.
It's just changed everything.
My whole outlook, my face, my inner life, my worldview.
So it would not be critical of me at all.
Though I'm still a racial Jew, but...
Religiously, I'm an Orthodox Christian.
I'm a new creation in Christ through holy baptism.
So when I see what Jews are doing, they were the first to really push this homosexuality thing.
And they were the first to create this critical race theory in the public schools.
And I know who did it, who wrote it.
And they are the top transgender surgeons that do these things to young children.
Look at Rachel Levine.
His name is Richard Levine.
He's been pushing for a long time these puberty blockers.
These are very destructive things that is ruining Western civilization.
And this is the head of my site, Real Jew News.
I say what the Jews are doing to destroy Western civilization and Christendom in the Christian worldview.
I grew up in this.
I see it from the inside and I decided I'm going to expose Jewry and it has to be stopped.
I just have a hard time.
I mean, look, I'm not Jewish and I wasn't raised Jewish, but I have a hard time believing that when you're a kid, you're taught, you know, I mean, how does that come out of Jewry?
If that's the right word, how does that how does this trans agenda or gay agenda or all these things that you're saying, how does that come from this group of people?
And is it?
Are you saying that they racially, this racial group is doing it, or are you saying it's the religious group that's doing it?
But a lot of them aren't religious at all.
It's combined.
The race and religion are united together.
I don't know how I can explain it any better, but let me give you an example.
From my childhood, my dad showed me, and I think it was in 1963. There was an op-ed in the New York Times, because we had the New York Times on Wall Street Journal and Face the Nation.
Jews are political animals.
So I grew up religious Jew.
I grew up political Jew.
Okay, cultural Jew, social Jew.
He showed me this op-ed of the Hart-Celler Act that was getting ready to bring in third world immigrants into America, which was going to change our demographics.
Because we had a demographic type of law before that that prevented third world countries to come in, but only European who founded this country.
So my dad has me read this op-ed of the Hart-Celler Act.
So he says to me, because he kind of exposed me to the political realm when I was six.
So he had me read this and I said to, he said, what do you get out of that, Mendel?
I said, well, I get out of it that that's the end of the WASP. He says, you got it.
The white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
It was the consensus demographically, culturally, socially, complexionally in America.
I said, this will be the end of the wasp.
And my dad said, you got it.
And he walks away.
That's how my dad would mentor me.
But he mentored me in many different aspects.
So I saw right there from the New York Times, it was written by some Jew.
And the Hart Seller Act was promoted by Jews, especially Jacob Javits.
He's the one that really pushed this thing through the American Jewish Committee, which I knew about, too.
I knew about all these Jewish organizations because my dad was a big mocker with B'nai B'rith.
How do I explain this?
I grew up in this.
And it's hard for me to get this across to people.
Because it seems so, I mean, because...
Well, I mean, it's probably not that unbelievable if we kind of try to extract that into our own teachings that people are kind of naturally taught without it being, you know, formal.
It's not like it's formal education or put into the churches or, you know, into the scriptures or whatever, but people...
It is in scripture.
Right.
Well, but parents would say to their kids, like, I want you to marry somebody who's XYZ, who has this XYZ trait or who's a particular race or who's a particular religion.
Right.
They kind of will push these ideas on on their kids without it really being necessarily a formal education.
It's basically the same sort of thing.
So you're kind of saying that that you.
Right.
That installation.
But why would why why would that be then?
Why would Jews want to try to get rid of the wasp?
Because it's only a white collective like it once was a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant that can counter and topple the Jewish collective.
That's what we have in America today.
A Jewish collective that runs the media, that bribes and blackmails all the politicians, that runs Hollywood, that runs TV, that runs the music industry.
That's why I say I understand Kanye better than anybody could ever come close to understanding him.
Nick Fuentes comes pretty close, okay?
But it gets back to this biblically.
You have to understand this.
Okay, Kim?
Now.
We have in Judaism, in Jewry, two major obstacles.
The spirit of Antichrist, this is biblical, and the deicidal curse.
I had this written down prior to this.
In order to come to terms with these two obstacles, the spirit of Antichrist, which every Jew bears, and the deicidal curse, which...
Every Jew bears, because when Pilate said, I want to let him go, the Jew said, crucify him, his blood be upon us and upon our children.
That's the deucidal curse.
Because of these two tremendous obstacles that is within every Jew, it's been washed away in baptism through me.
Jews have hardened themselves against righteousness.
This inherently creates within Jewry, within every Jew, an opposition to all that's good.
They can't help themselves but to undermine the damage because of the deicidal curse and because of the spirit of Antichrist.
It can only be washed away through holy baptism.
And even then, it takes maybe 15, 20 years to move into this whole new worldview.
I'm 74, and I can speak from experience on both aspects of this that I'm speaking on.
What do you think of Muslims?
Well, this sounds very racist.
Some of my best friends are Muslims.
The Muslims I know are very kind.
They're very refined.
They're very hospitable people.
And the ones that may be not as refined or cultured are very religious, and they just are in sync with me.
They just naturally like me.
I see them.
Wherever I go, in New York, and many of them know me, and they just naturally feel as simpatico with me.
And I put my arms around them, and I say, Salaam Alaikum, I say, Alaikum Salaam.
I mean, I approach people on a man-to-man, woman, man-to-woman, mankind level.
I mean, we're all human beings.
That's the essence.
And we have so much in common as being...
Part of mankind.
That's how I approach Muslims.
And I have some good friends who are Muslims.
But I mean, from a Christian perspective, you want everybody to embrace Jesus.
You want everybody to be baptized and to embrace Jesus Christ.
That would be Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, everybody, right?
Yes, yes.
But you have very strong criticisms of Jews in saying that they're behind, you know, and look, there's a lot of that.
I'm not going to disagree with, you know, the influence and the power in a lot of these big industries.
I don't think anybody could deny that with a straight face these days.
What about the lobbies, Jim?
Right, yeah.
I mean, there's a lot.
Obviously, our entire government is clearly being really controlled by a group of people with an agenda, and it's not an American agenda.
It's an Israel-first agenda, right?
We see that going on.
I don't think anybody could deny that at this point.
But do you have that same, you know, what is it that's unique then about this one group that is not happening with like Muslims or Buddhists or other groups that are also not Christian who you would want to baptize and convert?
Well, I would like to see them all believe in Jesus Christ, but everybody comes from their own point of view, and I'm not going to force anything.
That's just not...
The way we do things with each other.
But I mean, do you think that Muslims have the same power, the same ability to...
Absolutely not.
Zero.
Or Buddhists.
Do Buddhists?
You know, you look at the Chinese.
Zero.
Zero.
Absolutely zero.
How do you bring a war criminal here and he's applauded a thousand times in Congress?
It's because there's a thousand Jewish lobbies.
It's not just AIPAC. It's the American Federation, the Jewish Federation of America, which is in every state.
It's the ADL. Here's the big one that no one knows it, the Association of Jewish Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations.
That's the big one.
And the umbrella group over that is World Jewish Congress and B'nai B'rith.
And the American Jewish Committee.
I mean, there's a thousand of them.
Now, if I wanted to start a Christian lobby, oh my goodness, separation of church and state.
You can't have that.
Oh my goodness, we have union of synagogue and state in this country.
And this has to be changed.
We have to do something about this.
And I want to be on the front lines to change this.
And I think I have a good chance of doing that.
I've only just begun.
So this kind of gets to, you know, this whole notion of wanting to, and I understand, well, you tell me, does this come from a place within the belief system, or is this something that is a protectionist reaction?
You know, if Jews are wanting to, what you claim, you know, wanting to eradicate wasps, right, the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, I could understand that from a survival, you know, after the Holocaust, for example, I would say, Well, look, I mean, if white people are going to rise up and try to say they just want white people around and they're going to do a Holocaust because they want to preserve white people,
if we kind of mix in a bunch of other people and there's no really any more white people, then they're not going to rise up and kind of have this ethnocentric worldview or ethnocentric desire.
So we could kind of erase.
You can erase race in a way by intermixing everybody and then no one could rise up and say, you know, ethnosupremacy for my group.
I can understand that from that perspective.
Do you think from a protectionist perspective?
So do you think it's protectionist or do you think there's like some sort of other plot behind it?
No, there's no plot.
It's just the way the Jew thinks.
The Jew is instilling in him.
From childhood, that he's a light to the Gentiles.
So we're going to tell the Goyim, you know, this is the right way.
You're stupid Goyim.
That's how the Jew thinks.
You're not going to tell us that it's only two genders.
We're going to tell you that there's seven genders, you Goyim.
Yeah, that's how the Jew thinks.
You have to understand this.
See, if I ever said anything, we had a big mishpocha.
My dad came from a big family.
My mother came from a big outer family.
And we had these big gatherings every month for my dad's family.
It was called the Mishpocha, plus the synagogue and the whole deal.
If I ever said something stupid as a kid, beginning at three, four years old, I was told by whoever it was, my friends, synagogue, the rabbi, my uncle, my aunts, my cousins, you have a goyish equip.
It means you think like a goyish.
So this is the whole approach to the Goyan.
We're not going to let them tell us we are the light to the Gentiles.
So if somebody has this lifestyle that they're attracted to another man and they're a man, this is human rights.
Well, it's a sin.
It's not natural.
It's a vile affection.
It's an abomination, but no, they will couch it and put it in another kind of terminology.
It's human rights.
You goyim, you Christians, that's so bigoted of you.
I'm trying to tell you from the inside how the Jew thinks.
And only I can understand this because I grew up in it and I still have the racial genes of it.
Okay, so you've made a comment recently that was really controversial that a lot of people got on your case over.
You said white babies now.
And this kind of goes with what you're saying about wanting to eradicate the wasps.
So you're trying to instead propagate the wasps.
More wasps.
You want more wasps.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do.
So, you know, I'm a mixed person myself.
I'm half.
I'm half white, half Asian.
What do you say about people like me?
I mean, why white babies?
Why not more mixed?
I think I'm pretty great.
I don't know why.
Why not more like me?
You're beautiful.
Now they're going to get me flirting with you.
Okay.
I always find something to get me on.
When you want to speak out and be honest, you're not going to win any popularity contests, although I am famous.
Let me put it this way.
There's just many ways to go about this.
Maybe I should go about it from the young kids who write to me.
They think I'm cool.
They like the way I look.
They like the way I talk.
They like the way I dress.
They think I'm cool.
They do write to me.
I get emails galore.
Texts galore and phone calls galore.
And they tell me that they would like to get married.
They don't know how.
They don't have a job.
And I'm trying to help them.
Okay.
And I am trying to also tell them practically how you're going to be happy.
You're going to be happy with your own kind.
And this is biblical because everything and all living things, God designed, it should be after its own kind.
So I promote.
I said, find a white girl and here's how you do it.
First, get a skill.
They said, I don't have money.
I said, well, you can get a trade.
Don't go to college.
It's a waste of time.
Get a skill and you'll make money.
You'll work three days a week.
And get a dating app.
Go to a church social.
Go somewhere where young kids are.
And just, you know, find a girl you like and talk to her.
So I'm trying to help them to get married.
And the second point of this is that...
This country was founded by white Europeans.
Who built the airplane?
Who invented the telephone?
Who invented the light bulb?
These were all white Christian Europeans.
They built this country.
Today, if the Hudson Bridge goes down, only a white contracting engineering group can rebuild that Hudson Bridge.
It's not going to be a Hindu.
It's not going to be a black.
It's not going to be a Mexican.
So I promote the founding and the roots and what built this country, the history of this country.
It's not like Vivek says, an idea.
That's a Jewish type of trope, okay?
It's an idea.
No, it's an ethnostate.
And I grew up in this in the 50s, and I saw how it built a wonderful social climate and a wonderful Christian moral social cohesion, which I see the Jews, beginning with the Hartzeller Act called the Open Immigration Law in 1965, Is fragmenting and tearing down.
Because to the Jew, if you keep on fragmenting, only one group rises to the top.
The Jew.
Well, you could say that Asian women are fragmenting it too, I would imagine.
Since there's a push for a lot of white men and Asian women.
It's a demographic fragmentation.
I don't look at the individual like you or that or that.
I'm just seeing the whole picture.
And this whole picture is political.
This whole picture becomes legislation.
This whole picture becomes media, part of our culture, part of the way we look at ourselves and our society.
And the Jews have total control of every gamut of influence in this country, Kim.
It's true.
Sometimes that's why, you know, I'm not a religious person.
I don't really believe in any of it anymore.
But sometimes, you know, but sometimes I wonder, because there is that chosen one mentality, you know, the chosen one ideology, right?
And when I see that there is so much power with a little group, I think maybe they really are chosen.
I mean, maybe they really, maybe this is, maybe I'm getting it, maybe those of us that are not religion are getting it wrong.
Are they chosen to destroy?
Are they chosen to ruin?
Are they chosen to disrupt?
Are they chosen to tell children that you should question your anatomy?
What kind of chosenness is this?
But Jesus Christ said, your house is left unto you desolate.
And he did call this whole gamut, this whole lobby, he called it the synagogue of Satan.
In case you missed it, in chapter 2 of the Revelation, he said it again in chapter 3. Yeah.
So I can go from a biblical point of view.
I can go from a social point of view.
I can go from a political point of view.
I can go through the whole wide brush point of view.
And I can show that the enemy of mankind, which St. Paul said, is the Jew.
unless they get baptized and convert and become Christians and become part of a moral, righteous people.
Other than that, they have the deocelling curse and the spirit of Antichrist.
They should be in no positions of influence or power.
This is detrimental to any country.
That's why they've been kicked out of 109.
So I know that this sounds really shocking to a lot of people, the things that you're saying.
But I want to point out that this is the Christian.
This is actually what the Christian viewpoint is or should be.
It's what it should be.
Right.
Because if you're a real Christian, you would believe that everybody needs to convert.
And it does say many times in the Bible, you know, this group that turned against Jesus Christ.
I mean, what you're saying is in the Bible.
But right now, you know, people have gotten to a point with their religion that they make it.
There's kind of a push.
I think there's a renewed push for Christians to be Christian.
You know, we see a lot on social media, like with Candace Owens and whatever, like Christ is King.
And there's this kind of renewed.
Resurgence of Christians to reclaim Christianity and to really fully come out with it and say, if you're not Christian, you're essentially evil.
Well, not evil, but you have to convert and reject the evilness.
You are maybe not evil, but you have to reject the evil and become a Christian, convert to Christianity.
That's not the way I put it.
You put it in a much more inflammatory way.
I'm softening it.
No, only with the Jews.
Because the only language the Jew understands is you have to hit them between the eyes.
Read the prophets, which I grew up in.
Then they'll start listening to you.
If you say like John Hagee or these other guys, I love the Jewish people.
They get sick and they're spookies.
They don't want to hear this.
Because they know they're not lovable, and they don't want any goyim to love them.
They want them to obey them, but to love the Jewish people.
So I hit them between the eyes.
I have brought, and two of my bishops have met them, five Jews into the Orthodox Church, because boom!
They know where I'm coming from.
Like I said, Kim, they don't accuse me of hate.
They accuse me of being a Meshubit, which means a traitor.
They do not accuse me of hate.
And to this day, they still reach out to me.
Brother, brother, you need to do teshuva.
You need to lay tefillin, you know, with the black box and the straps and all that.
You need to come back to your people.
You still have a, that will never go away, your Jewish nefesh.
But they don't look upon me as a hateful person.
They don't.
I'm not.
But they understand that I have a certain way of looking at things and a strong opinion, which I can support by facts.
And some of them are willing to discuss it.
Yeah.
So your goal would be to convert everybody.
Well, ultimately, that's my goal.
Look, I don't want to hit someone over the head.
I understand that everybody comes from a different place, a different, you know, cultural milieu, a different way of looking at the world.
I just want to be just a human being with them.
I think that's a good way to start.
And Jesus was the same way.
He ate with people and they said, oh, you're eating with these extortioners, the prostitutes are coming to you and wiping your hair and all that kind of thing.
This is the way to do it.
You start with friends.
Or just liking the person, taking an interest in them.
That's the way to do it.
But what I have planned, Kim, and I hope maybe this is some kind of a launch.
My dad, once, I would come home, okay, when I was a salesman in Pittsburgh, every Sunday, all right, to have a meal and everything, and I'm watching Billy Graham after dinner.
And my dad has got a hundred books around him, and I guess he hears it.
Maybe he looked at it.
He gets up to go to the bedroom.
He points at me.
He says, one day you'll be bigger than Billy Graham.
Why would he say such a thing?
But my dad had some kind of like prescience.
A very unique person.
But I'm not going to build up my dad because I had other sides to him that were not so hot.
Okay?
Yeah.
So this hit me recently.
And I would like to be the next Billy Graham.
I think I have it in me.
Because the kids love me.
I'll have a rock group behind me.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
I think what I... Well, I mean, it just depends on how society goes.
But why call out one group in particular?
I mean, with any other religion, and I'm just kind of...
I think the knee-jerk reaction when anybody hears you and you're kind of calling out Jews in particular, I think the knee-jerk reaction is like, oh my gosh, this is like really anti-Semitic or this is really bigoted, right?
This is like, we can't listen to this.
But when I think about what other religions teach, you know, every religion teaches sinners or non-believers, unbelievers, non-believers, sinners, and you'll have the preacher or the priest or whoever it is.
I'm talking a lot about, you know, the sinners and saying that these are the non-believers.
These are the sinners.
We have to bring them into...
They always will say, we got to bring them into the fold.
You know, we got to try to convert them.
But there is still a distinction of you're living a life of sin.
Like, unless you come unto Christ, you're living a life of sin.
And nobody flinches, actually.
Nobody cringes or flinches at the pastor or the priest or whoever.
Basically pointing out everyone else in the world and saying, look at all them sinners, right?
Nobody flinches at that.
But when you point it out to one particular group of people, then it feels...
But why not?
Why point out this one group of people?
Do you think that this one group is different than...
Rather than just saying all of you are sinners and all of you have the Antichrist, all of you are bringing...
If you're a non-believer and if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ, then you're all this way.
Like, why point out this one particular group?
Or do you think that there is a difference biblically with this one particular group?
AIPAC, ADL, B'nai B'rith, World Jewish Congress are Jews.
AIPAC is what convinced Trump, Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman and Jared Kushner and the whole Kushner.
Tribe and family to bring this war criminal here.
It wasn't people like you.
It wasn't the Mexicans.
It wasn't Catholics.
It wasn't Baptists.
It was the powerful Jewish lobbies.
And the one who called this out was Thomas Massey.
He said every congressman, every senator, I think you did a video on this, has it?
Jewish lobby babysitter.
Now this is powerful influence.
The most powerful influence is if you can counterfeit money legally and not know where in the world that money is going.
Because Alan Greenspan on the McNair Report years ago, and my father was the one who showed me this, when Alan Greenspan was asked by McNair.
Does the executive branch or any government have any say in what the Federal Reserve is doing?
He said, no.
And he said it in a very arrogant tone.
No agency of government will dictate to us at the Federal Reserve Bank anything that we do that he caught himself.
He's arrogant.
He said, well, oh, but we get along with the current president.
I think it was Bush Sr. at the time.
I can't remember.
Or any president, we get along fine, but he already gave himself away.
You're not going to tell us what to do.
And the Fed can take that money and they can send it wherever they want, through USAID, to do a lot of very ruinous things throughout the world.
And it's not Mexicans.
It's not Buddhists.
It's not Asians that are doing it.
It's the Jew.
I grew up in this and I finally reached the point I'm going to expose them because it's ruin.
It's destructive.
And I don't want to see that happening to my country.
I don't want to see it happen to the young people.
I don't want to see it in my social setting.
This is part of a biblical view.
It's not just a church here in a corner with the four walls.
We are to see the whole picture.
If Jesus Christ says the church is to be 11 and if the Jews are poisoning that whatever, they're 11. Throughout society, then we have to speak up.
Now, I'm willing to speak up, and I become a bum because of it.
But this is just part of wanting to change something and seeing what the problem is.
Kim, you're going to get hit.
You're going to get hit hard, even from your own.
When I say your own, even from Orthodox Christians who hit me.
You see?
Because it scares them.
I am not afraid.
I love Jesus.
I don't like seeing his teachings and everything he stands for trampled on.
And I will defend his teachings.
And if I see somebody trampling on it, I'll call them out by name, by event, by place, by circumstance.
That's what I do.
But wasn't Jesus a Jew?
You can't say he was a Jew.
It's heresy.
He never identified as a Jew.
And I have to understand the word Jew is from the word Yehuda.
Yehuda was the first tribe, Judah, but he had his own geographical tribe in Judah.
Judea.
And the Greek word is Iudia.
So it always meant geographical.
Like, for instance, when Jesus Christ is talking with a Samaritan woman, this was a geographical religious argument.
Okay, and she starts saying, hey, we got the real religion here.
Jacob worshiped at this well, and this is the place, you know, for the real religion.
And Jesus, you don't even know what in the world you worship.
For salvation is of the Judeans.
So he could even use the word Jew as a racial entity, but as a geographical, because he was referring to Judea where the temple existed.
The center of Jewish worship, the center of the true triune God, the center of the true religion.
It was a geographical argument.
And nowhere in the scriptures, either by Jesus or by his apostles, is Jesus Christ identified as a Jew because that divides him into two persons, which is a heresy.
Now we got some people like Jay Dyer and others that can't come close to my understanding of patristics.
You cannot say that.
You can say that Jesus Christ is of the seed of David, but his essential personhood is the eternal Son of God, begotten of the Father from all ages, who took upon himself the seed of David, an impersonal humanity.
You cannot call him a Jew because that distinguishes him from a Gentile, so that divides him to two persons.
This was all decided at the Third Ecumenical Council, the Council of Ephesus.
But some people that I talk to, it just throws their head around.
I just don't know what the world I'm talking about.
But if I talk to a dogmatician who's schooled in patristics, he would know instantly when I'm talking.
I've talked to bishops about it.
And they say, yes, brother, you're absolutely right.
Well, he wasn't even of the seed of David.
I mean, if you're a Christian, you don't believe that he is.
Now you think that it's immaculate conception, don't you?
I mean, not immaculate conception, I'm sorry.
Virgin birth.
Yes, but the genetics are still there.
You see, God can take anybody and he can perform the genetics.
If God created us to begin with out of dust, he can create the genetics.
So he looked Semitic.
He looked like a Hebrew.
He had the genetics, the genes of Joseph, who was not his real father, and of Mariam, who was not his real mother.
But he used their...
His ancestry and all the genetics to form this impersonal man, mankind in Jesus Christ.
Yes, he had all the genetics.
That to me is probably 101. I thought that he had the legal, you know, they, of course, the people at the time would not have known that he came from virgin birth.
They wouldn't have believed it.
And so they legally believed he was of the seed, you know, from the lineage of David.
Through his father, who they thought was his father, Joseph.
He did look like Marcus Aurelius, okay?
Come on.
How's he going to be mixing with his people and getting apostles who wanted to follow him?
If he looked like a Roman, he did not.
So, okay.
When it comes to pointing out the Jewish group and saying that Jews are the ones that are...
That are in control and have all the power.
And like I said, I think a lot of people would agree that there's definitely disproportionate representation in a lot of these industries and positions of power.
But how is that any different than the white man?
You know, like when people would make the...
I mean, we've been hearing this for the last 10 so years with like critical race theory.
I mean, this is a tenet of critical race theory of saying like white men have been in control, disproportionate amount of control in charge.
We have to...
Break down the white man a bit and, you know, understand that they're in this power.
And of course, it's not all.
The vast majority of white men have no power whatsoever, right?
It's just the powerful white men who have a lot of the power and have disproportionate amounts of wealth and disproportionate amounts of representation in politics and, you know, more so than women and whatnot.
So how is it any, I mean, isn't it just a group that, you know, white men just kind of ended up with this?
Good old boys club, guys they wanted to smoke cigars and play golf with, and they would hire people that were just like them, and they kind of all ended up in positions of power.
They maybe had biasness against women or against people coming from different countries with accents or whatever.
I mean, I don't think it's like, is it, because you're asserting that it's inherent in the teaching, because there's an us and them mentality.
But isn't that with any group?
Well, I guess it is, but if you have it with a group, it is usually immersed in tremendous global wealth.
Money.
Like, you know, Massey said, the eight-pack babysitter.
Right.
That means money.
That means money.
Then it becomes very dangerous.
The Mexicans I know don't have a lot of money.
Right.
I don't know.
Those Cubans, those Cubans have been pretty darn powerful over the last several decades here The Cuban lobby has been.
The whites have their own lobbies and it's usually maybe the tobacco lobby, maybe it's some entrepreneurial lobby, but that lobby is different.
In the Jewish lobby, because they're not looking, oh, how we can make more money in our business.
They already have the money.
Now they're looking to influence legislation.
They're looking to influence political policy.
They're looking to influence who we bring over to America.
Let's bring this war criminal.
Let's have Speaker Johnson put his arm around him and say how wonderful.
Let's have Trump pull out the chair like he's a waiter and have him sit.
Let's have Trump wear a blue tie and the war criminal wear the red power tie.
That's because these lobbies have tremendous money that fills the campaign coffers of every politician.
It was Jimmy Carter, that pointed this out.
After that, Dershowitz would not allow him at any Democratic convention.
He said, unless you play ball with the Jewish lobby, he said Israel lobby, meant the same thing.
Your political career is finished.
Well, money is certainly powerful.
There's no doubt about that.
Money is powerful.
Follow the money.
Follow the money.
Always follow the money.
Brother Nathaniel, interesting conversation.
You are an interesting character.
There's no doubt about it.
I came across you when I would debate a lot about Jesus not being a Jew.
To me, that came about after World War II, this kind of idea that Jesus was a Jew.
It was not thought about prior to that point, but I make the argument all the time that that's just not the case.
From any perspective, ethnically, racially, Or even religiously.
And you'd kind of come up quite a bit in some of those debates that I had online.
And so I've followed you and seen some of the interesting things that you've said.
Some that I maybe don't agree with, but you're nonetheless a very interesting person and knowledgeable for sure in Christianity and in the Bible.
And you're an interesting guy, so people can find you.
So I appreciate you being here and having this conversation.
Why don't you run for Congresswoman or Congressman?
Oh, right.
You've got something.
No, because I don't want them to blackmail me.
What I have is the ability to be blackmailed.
I mean, even if I don't care about...
They all know.
I mean, the blackmailers that run Congress.
They know how to get to people.
You mean bribe.
You don't mean blackmail.
You mean bribe.
No, I think they would blackmail.
I think they would blackmail me.
I think what they would do is they would find some dirt on a family member of mine and they know I would do anything to protect my family.
So for me, if they came out with something on me, I'd be like, whatever, I don't care.
Well, that's very anti-Semitic of you.
Because who would do that?
But if they were to come after my family, yeah, I mean, that would be...
That would be challenging.
And I think that's a lot of them.
I think a lot of these kind of Epstein-style blackmail rings, they know that they don't have to get the person necessarily.
If they just get somebody they love and care about who they want to protect, it's just as good.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
I find you a very intelligent, insightful woman.
Oh, well, thank you.
And you're a good communicator.
I enjoyed this eventually.
Thank you.
I hope you'll get in trouble or elicited by the ADL after this, Gith.
Oh, maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
You're definitely...
I was nervous going into this conversation.
Still a little nervous about it, but that's okay.
You know, we all have to kind of get over our discomfort.
There's just a natural discomfort when having these types of conversations.
And what I try to do is I try to say, okay, what if I were having this conversation about Scientologists?
I don't think I would flinch as much, right?
I mean, I would be like, oh yeah, the Scientologists are weird.
I mean, I don't think anybody has any problem saying that.
I think a lot of us sit there and go, yeah, I mean, look, they're kind of weird.
And, you know, there's a lot of power there with Hollywood.
And they, you know, nobody has any problem saying that.
Nobody really has a problem saying bad things about Christians, right?
People will say things about Christians all the time.
Nobody has any problem saying things about a lot of groups of people.
Or just not even religious groups, but even racial groups.
I mean, you hear people talking about Asians or Chinese are coming or something, you know, and nobody bats an eyelash.
So I try to remember that, that, you know, this is just a programming.
You know, I have a programming from birth.
I think all of us do, especially when it comes to Jews.
We've been all taught a lot of sympathy since Holocaust, World War II. You know, that's the only group I think any of us were ever taught about having Massive persecution against.
It was never any other group.
I mean, plenty of groups suffered genocides.
Plenty of groups had many horrible things happen to them.
But we were all taught often about the Holocaust, and we feel very bad.
And so we have these reactions that we wouldn't otherwise have if we just swapped out the words with, like, Scientologists or Jehovah's Witness or Mormons even.
Nobody ever tiptoed around.
Criticizing and mocking me when I was a Mormon.
Yeah, they would just straight up to my face.
Can I say something about growing up in the 50s about this Holocaust thing?
Or am I taking up too much time?
No, go ahead.
I just don't know what you're going to say.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
No, you'll like it.
You'll like it.
It's not anti-Semitic at all.
Okay, so every Jewish kid in the 50s has the Encyclopedia Britannica in his room.
Fifteen volumes.
Okay.
And I had what was the 1953. I was born in 1950 and my parents, my dad bought the 1953 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica.
That's just what he bought.
So there is a section on World War II by a famous Jewish historian at the time named Jacob Marcus.
I'll never forget.
Okay.
So my dad wanted me to read it.
And other portions too.
All right.
And Jacob Marcus said that in the work camps, they weren't called concentration camps.
They were called work camps to support the war effort.
There were many political prisoners, Jehovah's Witnesses and gypsies in there.
The political prisoners were Jews because most of them were promoting the Communist Internationale.
And he says because of the Allied bombings, Many perished, probably 200,000.
Jews mostly, but gypsies and Jehovah's Witnesses.
We didn't hear this word 6 million.
We never heard this word concentration camps.
We never heard of extermination.
I'm just telling you, growing up in the 50s, and anybody Jewish growing up in the 50s would affirm this.
We didn't hear this.
We didn't hear gas chambers.
And if we did hear of Zyklon B, it was a delousing agent.
And what I've learned about Germans being in the business world for so long is that Germans are, they put people to work.
They're very efficient people.
They're not going to waste so much time and money killing somebody that can do work.
So Auschwitz says work makes free.
Now, just to make the story a little more lively, sometime in 1967, this whole Holocaust thing becomes a big thing.
All right, so we watched the Ed Sullivan Show, 8 p.m.
every Sunday night.
It was a family ritual.
My cousins were there, my brother, my sister, my dad.
This was it.
Ed Sullivan with the trapeze people and the ballets and the Jewish comedians and everything.
So now Ed Sullivan, hey, we have a really big show tonight, and we have a Holocaust survivor.
And we never know.
We don't know what that is.
A Holocaust survivor who is going to do a dramatization of what it was like to suffer in the Holocaust.
All right, so it was Ellie Giselle.
On the Ed Sullivan show?
Yes.
Is this considered entertainment?
Yes, it was Ellie Giselle.
It was.
I remember this so vividly.
I'm like 14 at the time or 15. So vividly, because here, listen to this.
So now they have this makeshift cell, and there's a piece of bread in a corner.
And Elie Wiesel, you know, looking younger, is in agony.
And he's holding his stomach, and he's hungry.
And he's looking for the piece of bread, and there's a German shepherd.
And my dad says, I'm not going to put up with this bull.
The other word.
He's a fraud.
And my dad was that kind of person.
He turns it off.
Then he goes, you know, to another room and we just turn it right back off.
And we want to see this guy.
And it turned out later that maybe 20 years later, someone caught him walking in an orchard, a big field in France, in a short-sleeved shirt.
And he's expressing himself to his friends.
There's no tattoo.
He was never in Birkenau.
Ever.
He's a liar, a fraud.
And my dad called him out back in 1966. Isn't that amazing?
Mm-hmm.
All right.
That's all I want to say about that.
Brother Nathaniel, where can people find you?
I know we've got your X link down below, also your Rumble channel.
The link is down below.
Anywhere else where people should find you besides X and on Rumble?
Okay.
At RealBronat.
You can find my controversy.
Okay.
And on Rumble.
And I stream also on Twitter, at RealBronat, Bible with Brother.
Okay.
I'll take a Bible passage and I can, you know, I've read it.
I can quote all over the place.
And okay, I do Bible with Brother.
I make it alive and interesting.
I play some rock songs for the kids.
All right.
And then I have where I do tons of videos.
I've been doing this since 2007. Real Jew News.
That's my website.
And I'll be doing one again on the bird flu tomorrow.
The next pandemic.
Okay.
So that's where you can find me.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
Really appreciate you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I enjoyed it.
All right, guys.
That is it for tonight's show.
I didn't know what to expect when it came to that interview.
And interesting.
I mean, it's interesting to get everybody's different perspective.
When it comes to in-groups, I mean, I... I don't particularly point out one group.
You know, I know Brother Nathaniel wants to point out Jews.
That's what he's kind of...
But I mean, he grew up Jewish and he understands the mentality more than other people, just like I do about Asians or Mormons or whatever, Idahoans, right?
We all grow up with our certain perspectives and we know a lot about those particular perspectives.
But I don't know if I would...
I mean, I think that in-grouping is a normal, natural human...
It's a human nature thing to do.
For people to look after their own in whatever their own is.
So if their own is a religious group or if their own is a racial group or a geographical group, you know, whatever that group is, I think it's just natural human nature to favor members of your group.
Like if you're a woman, for example, and you're hiring people for a job and the...
And there's other women that apply and they're similar to you and you think you'd get along and you could imagine yourselves going out for happy hour.
You're going to tend to hire that person other than, you know, over somebody who you just could never imagine yourself hanging out with or getting along with or wanting to spend eight hours a day within a work environment.
So I think it's really natural and normal for people to favor people that are similar to them.
I think when it comes to religious groups, whether they be Jews or Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses or Scientologists are naturally going to favor people that have the same beliefs as them.
And so they will kind of group together and elevate one another.
And that's just natural.
That's just human nature.
Where it does obviously become problematic, and this is where Brother Nathaniel was talking about, is that the money aspect, when a group...
Happens to not only just do the in-group thing, but then they also gain a lot of influence and money.
Then they can just be isolationist against others.
And that's what people of various different racial groups have been accusing white men of doing for a long time.
And probably, truthfully, accusing white men of doing this.
I think, like I said, if the white guy is hiring or he's elevating somebody to a management position, he's thinking, who's the guy I can go golfing with?
Who's the guy I can smoke a cigar with?
That's a natural human reaction.
And that's why there's these kind of efforts to create affirmative action programs.
And those programs were meant to break the natural bias or the natural in-grouping every single person does by just human nature.
It's meant to kind of break that up and to prevent it in some way.
But of course, that had its own issues and it created its own set of big problems.
So the only real way, and I don't even know, I don't know the answer to how do we break free from in-grouping?
How do we break the cycle of that?
I'm not really even sure what the solution is to that.
I mean, awareness, obviously, knowing that people do it naturally is maybe part of the way to combat it.
But I don't think there's anything particularly unique about Jews, you know, and that Jews are doing this like there's some evil group there.
I think white men do it.
I think Asians.
I mean, that's one of the things that people are talking about right now when it comes to the H-1B visa debate.
A lot of people are saying, look, one of the problems that happens is that these Indians come over from India.
They take these jobs.
They rise up in the ranks into management positions.
And then what do they do?
They only hire other Indians.
So it becomes exclusionary of native-born Americans when these immigrants come over from India and they start hiring their own.
And I think that's a valid concern, and I think it's perfectly fine to voice as much as people naturally cringe when they hear something like that.
The fact is that that awareness is important to understand.
But I think every group does it.
I don't think there's anything particularly...
You know, just to say, oh, no, it's just this one group because this one group is particularly bad or evil or has...
I mean, certainly certain groups are going to maybe teach it more than others.
I mean, there could be a, look, us versus them.
We have to protect our own or we have to elevate our own or something.
There might be certain groups that vocalize that a lot more so than other groups do.
And so, of course, then they would be more prone to doing it.
There's a possibility there also.
But I just wanted to kind of...
Share my thoughts on that line of thinking.
I think everybody does it with their own groups, and that's not unique to any one group or the other.
But it certainly is more effective when a group is very powerful and has a lot of money and they're able to do it, right?
Nobody can deny that.
All right.
Email me your thoughts.
What do you think?
I'm sure I'm going to hear from you.
Kim at KimIverson.com.
Love to hear from you.
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