Blood Money - A 5th Generation Natives Plan for Saving California, Vem interviews Leo Zacky

Oct. 17, 2025 - Blood Money

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A 5th Generation Natives Plan for Saving California, Vem interviews Leo Zacky

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	All right, guys, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
	Today we have a very special guest, Leo Zacki, who is running to become California governor in 2026.
	How are you doing, sir?
	I'm doing fantastic.
	Vim, thanks for having me on.
	Great to have you on, man.
	Great to have you on.
	I've heard a lot of your speeches at CPAC.
	Definitely know a lot of individuals that speak very highly of you.
	And so, you know, we wanted to get to know you, Leo.
	Like, first of all, give us a little bit of background on who is Leo Zacki, your life experiences, and what brought you to this juncture of the 2026 California governor's race.
	All right, well, I'm just a regular guy.
	I'm a fourth generation Californian.
	Uh I've spent my life in and around the poultry industry with my family because of Zachy Farms.
	Uh I wound up working for them.
	I left college to go and uh start at the bottom and work my way up to becoming vice president.
	I also was a board member for the California Poultry Federation for a decade.
	I started doing that at 18.
	So I got to go to DC and Sacramento and meet with all the elected people, uh senators, congressmen, you know, state reps, uh, state senators, USDA, FDA, EPA, and uh quickly discovered how stupid and incompetent and you know just bad these people were and how little they cared about you or your business or your family or your livelihood.
	And so that was a big motivation for me.
	How old are you when this is all going on?
	Which part?
	Uh, you know, running around Sacramento meeting these incompetent, you know.
	Oh, well, I mean, I started shadowing my grandmother, uh, because she was a board member uh too, and uh so I shadowed her doing this for a couple years.
	I was when I was 15, I started going with her and so when I was eight.
	The reason I want to bring that up is because I did a little bit of research about you.
	Obviously, we have mutual friends and stuff.
	You know, one of the things that people bring up, they're like, oh, you know, you're like Zachie Farms, you're this privileged kid, but like you seem like you know, you your grandma seems like she was kind of teaching you via the school of hard knocks.
	I mean, I would love to hear that.
	Oh, for sure.
	Um, actually, my grandparents uh legally adopted me when I was 12 years old.
	Uh, because I grew up in uh not the best situation.
	I had parents that weren't the best parents, probably shouldn't have had kids, and uh, you know, it wasn't wasn't great, uh, but I was you know able to go to good school because of my grandmother, we lived in a house because my grandparents but uh I I realized it was a very bad situation at a young age.
	My grandparents took me in, God bless them for doing that, and they guided me uh into becoming the man I am today.
	And so I mean I know what it's like to have water and power and gas shut off and cars repossessed.
	I've I've lived that, you know, growing up, watching that with my parents.
	Um, but my grandparents gave me real direction in life and opportunities, and I just seized them at every opportun at every moment.
	And so Yeah.
	You know, I grew up, you know, being raised by people who were from, you know, grew up during the uh the Great Depression.
	So I've got that perspective on life.
	Yeah, I and I had a pleasure of meeting uh your grandma at one of these events.
	I mean, sweet lady, and uh you could tell, like, you know, she's uh she didn't want to give it to you easy.
	I mean, you just oh no, no, I always made me have to like you know, cut my teeth, do whatever I want, you know, uh whatever I was gonna do.
	And that's fine, you know, and I'm glad it was that way, because I I really appreciate it, and I understand the value of everything that goes into whatever it may be so much more.
	And you know, at the time when I was younger, going to DC in Sacramento like that, you know, I I didn't, you know, quite realize like how how big of a deal it was until like all of a sudden, you know, they're taking you through these like special underground secret passageways between the houses of Congress and the Senate and stuff like that, and you're like, whoa, like this is behind the scenes, like this is really crazy.
	And then you're there you are, you're sitting there in Diane Feinstein's office, or you're you're in, you know, um, you know, a congressman's office, you know, and you're right there, you're on their couch, and each one of their offices is all unique and different.
	And then, you know, you like there's a cool congressman, I can't remember who it was, but like we're on he takes us, he's like, yo, check this out.
	Like, we climb out through like a window, and all of a sudden we're on like the eighth floor on the roof of one of the buildings, like looking out over the mall in the Capitol, and you're like, this is unprecedented access.
	And is this?
	I mean, how old are you?
	Like you're 15, 16 when this is going on.
	Uh well, we started I started shadowing them like that.
	I remember that was probably when we went on the roof, I was probably like uh somewhere in my early 20s when I had so I mean did you did your grandma like sit you down at one point and you know, or and say this is you know, her plan, she's trying to groom you to learn this business and stuff, or was it just more through practice?
	Um well, I guess it was just kind of through practice because like even even like before I was in the company, like I would go to all these different events with my grandma.
	She was always going to these luncheons all the time.
	And I was like, why the hell are you going all these luncheons all the time?
	Like this is ridiculous.
	Like you go and you eat crappy food, you know, you gotta drive to Orange County or or you know, East LA or whatever.
	And like I was like, what's the point of this?
	You go you see these people all the time, and it's for different organizations, like you know, Western Association of Food Chains or the or the grocers or uh association or uh you know, the meat packers or uh you know, city of hope stuff, and like there's always kind of be the same type of people.
	And so I I that's how I learned to like just you know, you know, about networking and the importance of working with your competitors and and just understanding that there are things like sure you can be competitors in business, but you can also work together to achieve other great goals.
	And I thought that was a really cool thing.
	Um, and so then I started going to all those luncheons all the time and eating having the crappy banquet food at the hotels, but you know, I mean it is what it is.
	Um yeah, I don't know, just I I always wanted to be a part of my family's business.
	Uh ever since I found because I was uh I found out that we had a train, we had a locomotive um at a feed mill that my grandfather had built, and I was a trainholic when I was a kid, so and they let me drive it when I was three years old.
	We had a rail spur of like 20 miles, and I was like, and that's the day I remember it clear as day.
	Like I knew I was gonna do whatever it took to drive that train, you know, so I built my life around that.
	In fact, I got a photo of that, yeah, a little picture of it up behind that boat I can show you if you want.
	That's awesome.
	And I love to say, I mean, I I want to ask like so uh you family business, your grandma's taking you around, teaching you the ropes.
	I mean, how much of the you know, from what I understand about Zach E Farms, I mean, you guys were uh very large uh family producer of poultry.
	Uh I mean, what it what what do you do at this point?
	Are you learning all the steps on you know what it takes to run this company?
	Tell me a little bit about that.
	Yeah, well, I mean, so I'd always gone around the business growing up, and then when I left college uh in 2012, that's when I started getting, you know, actually like all right, you're a W-2 employee.
	Uh, you know, so I started out as a sales service representative, uh, which was like the lowest rung on the totem pole.
	Um, and so I would go to different supermarkets that we sold to.
	So uh I had a list of all the supermarkets in the Southern California area, and it was my job to go to every single one and inspect product on the shelf, meet with the store manager and the meat manager, the deli manager if there was a deli, and stock the shelves and clean them and put the little channel strips and the danglers and the dividers in and make it all look really nice and presentable.
	And so I would go to like eight to twelve supermarkets a day, depending on how far in distance it was.
	So that's what I would do.
	And I hit every single grocery store that we sold to in this local area, and I did that for two, two and a half years.
	And then I was like, hey, I need a little bit more here.
	Like this is all great.
	Like, I really want some more help.
	So like uh they put me into cold calling, and that really sucked because um if you've ever done cold calling, it's not really fun.
	So, you know, God, I I I can't tell you how many phone calls I made to just like and I had to do my own research too.
	Like, I had to generate my own leads and just search all it's just I was like using like Google maps and like scrolling, like kind of zoomed in just to grab phone numbers for all these different little markets and call them.
	Um, so I got a couple sales that way.
	That was but you know, that was I didn't really feel like I was utilizing my potential to the max, and so I kept complaining to the the CEO at the time, and he and he finally put together this whole like packet for me to do this whole like structure, and he's like, Here, like shut up and leave me alone.
	So that started my whole journey on going through the entire process of learning the company from the ground up.
	So I worked in the hatchery, I worked in the processing plant, I worked in the packaging facility, I worked on the ranches, I got certified on palette jack, stand-up palette jacks, ride on palette jacks, forklift, stand-up forklifts.
	Um I did lab work.
	I learned I got I learned how to hook up a tractor trailer to an 18-wheeler.
	I learned how to drive an 18-wheeler.
	I mean, I didn't take a CDL or get my like commercial driver's license, but I did they like let me because we had a parking lot and a bunch of trucks, so I could you know shift gears and and do that and back them up and so I mean I did everything.
	Um, you know, a lot of jobs that are definitely you know, some places were a lot stinkier and smelling and grosser than others, but you know, all jobs the same.
	And so it was really cool about that is I knew how every step of the opposite operation worked, even in the cook facility too.
	Like I was I was on the line making hot dogs and putting them on the chain, you know, the chain-driven oven and and packing there.
	I mean, I worked shoulder to shoulder with everybody, and so I knew every single step of the process.
	So, like if I had somebody come to me who's saying, Oh, well, you know, like I could I could call them on their on their BS.
	And it was also really cool because when I did finally, you know, graduate that whole training process, which took a very long time to do, and I would I would drive to Fresno every week Sunday night, sometime between eight and eleven PM, and I'd get there, and then I'd start my day Monday and just grind through it, and I wouldn't leave Fresno till 5 p.m. on Friday.
	And so, and then anyways, um, yeah, I I did all that stuff.
	So then when I finally completed that project, I I you know, I I wanted to have the title, you know, at the uh vice president.
	I thought that was you know, that sounded cool, and that would give me a lot of access.
	And so I would go around the company and like anytime there was an issue, like I would try and I would find out where the root cause of the problem was instead of just band-aid it, like you know, if we had like too much bruising, you know, the first place you go and look, oh, is the stunner set too high?
	You know, oh, it's not the sunner, the stunner, like, oh, it's you know, well, what about is there something going on here?
	Is it maybe it's happening in transit?
	Okay, maybe it's happening.
	Is there something happening on the ranches?
	And then we'd you know, we'd work our way back.
	And turns out somebody in the finance department thought it was a good idea to stop giving the guys uh on the the job called Live Hall where they take them off the ranches into the trucks, uh gave them uh decided to cut the uh the budget and took away the the Gatorade, you know, the powdered Gatorade that you would mix into the big, you know, Gatorade jugs like when you're growing up playing sports, and so they were upset, and so they were starting to kick and hit the birds.
	And so I was like, wow, give them the Gatorade, it's like five dollars, you know.
	And so we gave them the Gatorade, all of a sudden the bruising goes away.
	I mean, just simple things like that.
	You know, but you have but I have to get in the field to actually go and do that.
	I got no problem doing that.
	Like, I would dumpster dive.
	Like, why is there all this tray pack and you know, film in the in the dumpster?
	Oh, well, the machine's kicking out every fifth, you know, tray.
	Okay, why is it doing that?
	Oh, well, we don't have this part, then I gotta go to the maintenance department.
	Why don't we have this part on hand?
	It's costing us more money.
	Oh, well, we didn't have the funding to have it on hand.
	So then I gotta tell the CFO, hey, you're you're being stupid.
	You're you're bending over dollars to pick up pennies.
	Like, we need to have this stuff on hand.
	It's costing us more not to have the part than the part actually cost.
	So interesting, man.
	That's for you know that what I find interesting about this is because you know, I did a bunch of research on you know, one of the things that you know, obviously it's a heated race, people do a lot of name calling and all that stuff, and they're you know, the idea that you know Leo Zacki is this privileged kid that uh you know is uh has had it easy, I mean his whole life.
	I mean, that's nonsense, obviously.
	Yeah, no, not true.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you say you've had the and so you under the family business at this point.
	Obviously, you're not the person running the business, and then California regulations and prices going up.
	Tell me that journey of what happened.
	You know, this is like a what four-generation family business sacky farms.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So what happened in the last you know, 10, 15, 20 years?
	Tell me what happened there.
	Okay, well, um a lot, I mean, a lot of things happened.
	Um, I mean, it really started like Obama when he got into office in 2008, then 2009, he uh he passed some ethanol mandate.
	And that this is coming that this is a federal government thing.
	And so the United States is responsible for 20% of the entire world's corn supply, and he mandated that 60% of that has to go to make ethanol.
	And so therefore 12% of the world's corn supply is now being converted into a very inefficient fuel source.
	So the price of corn, which was our primary source of feed for our birds, 95% of our feed mix was grade A corn.
	Uh, and so the price of corn jumped by 450%.
	So all the liquidity that we had in our company just disappeared realistically, really overnight.
	And um, in fact, even the second largest poultry company in the country uh went out of business because of because of that extreme added cost.
	Um so we went from paying like a dollar fifty to two dollars a bushel to eight dollars a bushel, but then there's the freight, so that's another dollar and ten cents on top of that.
	So we're spending nine dollars a bushel on corn, and we're buying three train loads of corn a year.
	So very, very, very, very expensive.
	And and with and with poultry, like you don't just it's you don't get your money back right away because like you have to make all this investment into it, and it's a living animal, right?
	So like you have to, so there's the there's the cost that goes into to getting the eggs and hatching the eggs.
	Okay.
	So so from hatching the egg to you know, from getting the egg incubated to hatching is three weeks.
	And then raising the chicken, if you're talking just chickens, it's seven weeks to you know to get them to process to market.
	And then, and then any customer that you're dealing with has a note 30 on top of that.
	So you're 14 weeks out every time you place one egg to getting a return on your investment at the at the very bare minimum.
	So there's these periods where you're just like you're just stretched for capital.
	So we filed our first bankruptcy, uh, it was a chapter 11 restructuring in 2012, and that's when I left college.
	I was like, because I didn't want to go to college in the first place.
	I just wanted to go and work for grandpa and learn under him, and they kind of talked me into going to college, and so I reluctantly went.
	And then my second semester of college, my grandfather passes away, so I was like, well, great, there goes that opportunity.
	I never got to learn under grandpa directly like I wanted to.
	And so when we filed the bankruptcy, the chapter 11 in 2012, I was like, I'm not, you know, fool me once, you know, shame on you, you know, fool me twice, shame on me.
	I was not gonna have shame on me.
	So I I left and I went and worked for the company.
	And um, and so uh we went through that whole reorganizing process, and that's when I was you know in those low levels, and so when things started getting more stable, that's when they gave me that opportunity to move up.
	But then um, you know, California Air Resources Board was another thing that had played into effect because we used to own our own fleet of trucks.
	We had over 70 trucks, and it got to the point where the new regulations, it didn't allow it to be financially viable for us to continue to operate them with the new regulations and install the equipment and have to take care of all that stuff.
	So we had to offload our fleet of trucks, move over to a leasing company because even though it was more expensive than what was the previous way, it was going to be a cheaper route in the future.
	So we lost that that part of our vertical integration, and obviously it was more expensive.
	Then you have the mismanagement of the resources that have been going on here in California, and believe it or not, it's agriculture is very water-intensive, even chickens, not just the fact that they have to earn turkeys that they have to drink it, but the clean but the whole process of processing because sanitation involves a lot of water,
	but also we use water chill, which is the most clean and sanitizing way to actually you know bring a bur a bird carcass down to temperature Because you got to get all the you know the fecal matter and all that other stuff out of the cavity and into and so it's a nice perfect clean product for safe for human consumption.
	That's why we had zero plant shutdowns in our entire operating history of 90 years.
	Um so you know, we water became utilities became expensive, or you know, they're shutting down the nuclear power plants, made our our our power go up.
	Power costs, it's like 40 cents a kilowatt hour in California for industries, and if you go to another state, like I don't know, like Illinois or Indiana or something like that, it could be like four or five cents a kilowatt hour.
	So there's all these other factors that add up.
	And then in 2016, minimum wage went up by 50%.
	And you know, that's the majority of our employees are are wage employees, and so the jump from ten dollars an hour to fifteen dollars an hour was enormous because it's a fixed cost item, and you don't you know you have like in any in any business,
	like like you have your variable costs, which you can expect to like to drastically change, like depending on seasonality or or or or whatever, but then you have fixed costs, which are pretty steady, and those are things like taxes and wages and insurance, right?
	Those things are are usually a pretty steady thing.
	So when you have a 50% jump in something that's not supposed to move like that, it really throws off the equilibrium of your company because you have to find a way to offset those costs because the variable costs, those those, you know, those you can mitigate pretty easily with with pricing in small adjustments, but fixed costs that's huge.
	So 40% of any company's fixed cost is gonna be labor.
	So now that increased by 50%, that's huge.
	So our margins totally went away, and we're playing in a global market.
	I mean, we were the largest privately owned employer in the state of California.
	We had 4,000 employees at our peak.
	Uh we were a half a billion comp dollar company at our peak.
	Largest organic turkey producer in the country, you know, you know, when we shut our doors, uh pioneered antibiotic free, all these all these amazing things.
	We were selling to China, we were selling to Hong Kong to Mexico to Canada.
	We had 50% of Trader Joe's ground turkey business across the country.
	And when your costs become so high, the only way to offset it to stay afloat is to raise your price, you lose your ability to be competitive in a marketplace because you leave the imaginary line that is California, and you go to Louisiana and they're paying 775 an hour minimum wage.
	They don't have California Air Resources Board dictating to them how they can operate their trucks, their fuel costs aren't through the roof.
	Um arbitrary rules that limit how fast I can process my birds don't exist there.
	So they can produce more in one day's work worth of work than I can do, and they can do it for half the price.
	So where's my where's my ability to be a financially you know uh you know viable?
	It goes away.
	And we were vertically integrated.
	So every so that impacted everything.
	We rolled our own grain, so we had milling, we hatched our own birds, you know, you know, we had hatching, you know, everything was done in the state of California.
	So that that minimum wage really hurt us.
	It's almost like um you're a perfect example of how overregulation destroys businesses.
	I mean, you would think that California would do everything possible to make sure businesses like yours exist and they're employing people, especially when you're doing quality work like the work that you guys were doing.
	Now, how did a lot of different companies deal with that?
	I mean, we heard about so many companies leaving California.
	What are the terrible realities in terms of companies leaving California, but also in terms of poultry?
	You're saying it's half price if you go to Louisiana or sure.
	Just I mean, just on the wage on the wage side.
	Um, we were the only privately owned, family-owned, vertically integrated poultry company in the state of California.
	The other there are other producers, but they're either publicly traded or they're owned by another uh massive entity that operates outside of California as well as in California, so that offsets their operational costs here in California, or they're backed by a religious institution.
	So short of that being an independent business owner in California, it's not really viable.
	But look what happened to all these companies.
	Oracle is packed up and left.
	In and out burger has now moved their headquarters to Nashville, Tennessee.
	99 cent stores went out of business.
	Tesla moved their operations to Texas.
	Um that's and that's just Bed Bath and Beyond doesn't want to open any stores here.
	And now you have Gavin Newson literally telling them to F off.
	Yeah.
	Like, how is that?
	How is that responsible?
	And it's so much bigger than you know, oh, they don't operate here.
	It's it's the jobs that would have come with it.
	Like there are tens of thousands of jobs that are being lost.
	And then those people don't have the opportunity to then get gainful employment or health insurance through their company.
	The state loses out on tax revenue, not just from the income, but from the businesses, you know, and it's like, oh, do you wonder is it any wonder why the state's losing population?
	Is it any wonder why uh our work the state's going into debt?
	I mean, aside from the other waste of money that they that they do, but they're losing their then they then they increase taxes, right?
	That's that's California's only solution to the problem is oh, well, we're not making enough money, so we need to increase the rate of taxation upon the people that are left behind.
	That it's the dumbest thing, and so it's it's it's almost like they've created this fictitious world in their heads, and you know, you you look at Gavin Newsom's plans with electric electricity basically taking over for gas, you know, uh fuel powered cars, and it's just not realistic.
	Yes, in a perfect world, I'd love for everybody to get paid a hundred dollars an hour.
	I'd love for everything to run on electricity and there'd be no emissions, but it's a fictitious world that they're basing this on.
	So essentially they're cornering themselves into impossible situations like the one you described.
	Yeah, but I mean, but Vem, even at a hundred dollars an hour, what does that actually represent for the value of the dollar?
	We can't just we can't just keep increasing wages because all it does is it makes the value of the dollar worth less.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, it's preposterous.
	That's that's my point.
	Right, no, I mean I would love ideal, but I mean, I'd love for people to make good money, but they have to have an environment that allows them to keep it, and so it has actual real value, and they can spend it on things and and enjoy their lives.
	Like we used to be a country that could afford to own a home and raise a family on a single income.
	We don't have that anymore.
	I mean, I have all my friends that are starting to get married and have kids, they both work, and they're still paying a mortgage if they can even afford to buy a home here, or they just move, they just leave.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They've created an impossible, uh, you know, I mean, impossible state to even have kids in.
	I mean, and that that transitions well into the parental rights issue, which is in California, it seems as you have all these crazy bills coming out, taking parental rights away.
	Uh, children could decide their gender before they're even, you know, ridiculous of age.
	Let's talk a little bit about the those ridiculous destructive policies.
	And you you look at this sort of thing, by the way.
	One thing I want to mention in Nevada, you have instances where again the federal government, through terrible regulations, has managed to get rid of all the people that are farmers grazing the land with cattle, raising organic cattle to now be replaced.
	I think there was something like 54 farmers 30 years ago.
	Now, through regulations, there's like literally one left.
	So when you look at this as a bigger picture, it's hard not to see this as like putting things in motion that are destructive for the American people.
	And we see it in California, we see it in Nevada, we see how they're destroying your business out there with the crazy regulations, wages, you name it.
	Uh I mean, firstly, is this all intentional from what you see?
	And how do you get yourself out of this mess when you have essentially our politicians having become self-destructive towards the people?
	I mean, it's a combination.
	Um, I definitely know for a fact that there are people that are doing this maliciously and intentionally.
	I mean, Gavin Newsom literally is a disciple of um uh the world economic forum.
	Uh, what's his name?
	Klaus Schwab.
	He went to Klaus Schwab's cool school of future world leaders.
	Like he attended that, graduated that.
	So there's no doubt in my mind that there are people that are intentionally pushing this globalist agenda, and it's about choking out private energy enterprise and private ownership.
	I mean, look what happens when these companies go under or these farms go under.
	Who comes and swoops in and buys it up?
	Bill Gates, China, Other some other massive mega corp.
	I mean, that's really it.
	Nobody else is doing it.
	So the independent farmers being just totally wiped out.
	And they're just centralizing control over everything.
	It's control over food, it's control over power.
	Like, look, even the even look at how electricity works and water works in the state.
	It's all centralized, right?
	One big monopoly owns.
	Even the cable companies, right?
	It's all it's all centralized control.
	Then you also have the useful idiots, you know, that they've been able to indoctrinate and swindle into this, and they are more than happy to push it along with their NPC hive mine, you know, mentality.
	It's it's it's absolute bonkers, it's absolute bonkers.
	Now, let's talk about like uh good governor Zachy administration.
	Obviously, you're running for office, and you know, people should know your qualifications because one of your qualifications is you're an independent businessman and entrepreneur.
	But the other thing is that however good you are in a climate which is uh aimed at really destroying that business, you know, independent business person or entrepreneur, you can't survive no matter how much resources you have.
	Right.
	So I'm sure that experience had a lot to do with you wanting running for office.
	Tell me a little bit more about your uh your goal of becoming governor.
	Yeah, I mean, uh I've been in all sorts of types of business.
	Like I've been in the restaurant business, I've been in large-scale agricultural and manufacturing.
	I'm I've been in I'm in startups, I'm I'm in environmental tech.
	Uh I'm in AI.
	I mean, I'm in all these different types of of business.
	I mean, I we've got a commercial property that we just uh are in the process of of selling right now because the permitting process and all these regulations are a freaking nightmare to deal with.
	I have a great property on Main Street in Santa Monica, and I can't get the approval to build the building that I want to make it to help revitalize that area.
	Main Street Santa Monica is dying if you haven't been down there, a lot of vacancies.
	You know, yeah, yeah.
	By the way, I I was there recently, and having grown up in LA, I mean it's ridiculous.
	It's like 40% of the shops are closed.
	Yeah, not to mention it's absolutely disgusting.
	You're literally walking over smelly homeless people trying to dodge the worst smells on the planet.
	I think I took my friend to a restaurant there, and a homeless person walked in, and I don't know, he was touching stuff, and then we both got sick.
	I mean, it's bad.
	It's not even like you know, we're we're getting to the point of this is becoming a hygienic issue where you walk into a restaurant, dude walks in, touches a whole bunch of stuff, and then you have a bunch of people becoming sick afterwards.
	I mean, that's not horrible.
	You're hearing reports of plague and cholera, you know, these are like Victorian-era diseases that we've pretty much eradicated, but they're making a comeback.
	And that's because there's filth everywhere.
	I used to read all about like, you know, when we're growing up about like the scurvy and the black plague, and I can't believe that through I mean, in modern day in 2025, we've we've regressed so much.
	Right common sense that we're allowing the stuff back into our culture.
	Yeah, but but this is this isn't hyperbole.
	This is a hundred percent reality.
	We're it just living through it, and people just keep their head down because cancel culture doesn't allow them to speak out against this because they they're and they're too afraid because if they if they do, they could lose their job.
	They're the job that's extremely hard for them to already get.
	I mean, there's so many people in my generation and younger that are struggling to get employment, and then you've got the older generation that's just like pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
	If I was when I was your age, I was making a hundred thousand dollars.
	That would be incredible.
	It's like that the money doesn't go that far anymore because we're taxed to death.
	I mean, we got 35% federal income.
	We're spending it's almost 15% here, right?
	For for state income tax, then you're it's like nine and a half percent sales tax everywhere you go, the outrageous excise tax.
	You've spent almost six dollars you know a gallon on gas.
	Uh, you know, food is expensive, your utilities are through the roof.
	Like, nobody has the means to survive anymore.
	And all that keeps continuing to happen is the value of the dollar becomes worth less.
	And that's a problem because people don't have the ability to independently create wealth for themselves because there are too many barriers to entry, specifically financially, but that's from all the over-regulations that are in place and all the permitting processes that have to occur.
	I mean, the fact that we don't have desalinization operating is simply because of of environmental regulatory barriers, Sequa and the Coastal Commission and other environmental wackadoodles.
	And then Gavin Newsom signing off on blowing up dams on the Klamath River, you know, water storage and power generation.
	That's all gone.
	Like where like it's so ridiculous.
	It's oxymoronical.
	Wouldn't you want to create all this power in water in abundance?
	Isn't that the concept?
	I mean, our farmers are being choked out.
	In Northern California, they just they cut off 7,000 farmers from water.
	There are pear trees that are 110 years old that aren't gonna get the water they need.
	They're gonna freaking die.
	110 year old pear trees.
	You know, that's incredible.
	It's not, and a lot of people don't understand, it's not a switch.
	You don't just turn it on, turn it off, okay?
	It takes years for these plants to mature to be able to bear fruit.
	And our farmers, these independent farmers that have had this land for five, six, seven generations, they can't make it, and so they get wiped out, and then they have to sell it off, and then some megacorp comes in and buys it just for the water allocation.
	They rip everything out there, that land lays fallow, and they use that water for their crops elsewhere.
	And you're growing less crops the whole time.
	I mean, it's it's absolutely insane to me.
	It breaks my heart when I drive up to 99 and I see all these uprooted trees.
	It breaks.
	It's unenvironmental environmentalism, which basically sounds completely retarded.
	It's like I don't understand how to do it.
	That is exactly the word is it is retarded.
	Like you could be an environmentalist, but you're not gonna water the plants and let them die.
	I mean, it's it's unbelievable, man.
	It's unbelievable.
	You had amazing ideas about water, uh, you know, concerning I mean with the fires that happen.
	We saw a lot of your videos of you walking around the Pacific Palisades, well docked.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, uh, you tell us a little bit about some of the your ideas of how to fix this whole water issue.
	For sure.
	I mean, again, background agriculture, farmer, like we like simple solutions.
	And we're dumping fresh water to the ocean.
	This is a known fact.
	Then you have things like the Merced Bypass where snowmelt is just being just siphoned all the way out to the ocean, and they're finding farmers for tapping into it.
	This is insane.
	Okay.
	They tell us there's a drought.
	You know, you could have gone snowboarding in Mammoth this year into July, and last year you could have done it into August.
	So it's not that we don't have enough water.
	We're just not collecting it.
	And believe me, the rains do come.
	I mean, hell, Imperial Valley just got hit with a monsoon, and they and they have 4,000 people without power.
	Okay.
	We're not harnessing our resources.
	We haven't built significant water structure in this state in 50 years.
	But the population in that time is doubled.
	And the mismanagement of these resources is leading to extremely high costs, and they're leading to uh exacerbated disasters.
	Look at look what happened to the Palisades.
	There's a reservoir, purpose built, by the way, for fire fighting.
	117 million gallons, bone frickin' dry because it needs minor repairs.
	Okay.
	This is this is a lack of urgency.
	This is a lack of leadership.
	This is a lack of this is always it's always reactionary.
	That's the other issue that this state has with the leadership.
	Everything we do is reactionary.
	It's never taking a proactive stance on doing the right thing to make this state resistant and resilient and independent and wealthy.
	I want to build reservoirs all throughout the state, not only to capture the rainwater, but to capture the snowpack, build them up at high altitudes, dam up canyons along the Sierra Nevada, Nevada, utilize hydroelectric as it comes down from the higher elevations.
	Uh, I want to dam up our concreted rivers we have in our major metropolitan areas, like for example, here in Los Angeles, we have the LA River, the Rio Hondo, the Santa Ana.
	They're all concreted up, they all run out to sea.
	Dam them up with a spillway at the end and segment other dams as elevation decreases to have water storage and build um the uh purification plants to then pump that in the municipal system.
	You then build the DSO plants that we've been approved for.
	We've been approved for 50, build those all along the coast, also helping take the pressure off the inland reserves, creating an abundance of water, utilizing uh not only the hydroelectric power, but using small modular nuclear reactors as well to create a robust infrastructure to eliminate brownouts and blackouts and bring consistent cheap power throughout the state,
	creating lower cost of living through lower utilities and also uh providing enough water to grow an abundance of food here in California, where we can be the global leaders in organic food production, where our farmers won't have to rely on herbicides and pesticides to maintain their crop, their limited crop because of the limited water allocations that they're getting currently.
	We can have such an infinite amount of water that they won't need that.
	And then even better, turn it into a revenue generator.
	So having an abundance of water in reserve not only gives us the ability to be drought resistant and better fight fires, but we can also then turn around and auction off the portions of the allocated water share shed that we get from the Colorado River.
	We get the lion's share of it.
	We can auction it off to our neighbors, and those neighbors include Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, and sell it off monthly, quarterly, biannually, annually, whatever, and bring money into the state that way that's not coming from your taxable dollars.
	You also see more food being produced and more lower costs for operating businesses and households.
	You'll see more production come there.
	There's more taxable income that can come in off of that.
	And so all my solutions are complementary, but I want to get there by utilizing these public works projects, but I want to utilize a resource that we have been uh ignoring and haven't actually harnessed.
	And that's our homeless population.
	We have to utilize them and get them back into a working position where they can re-enter society, but it's a mental health crisis compounded by drug uh addiction, exacerbated by a failed education system.
	So by enforcing our vagrancy laws, we can then have uh you know reason to remove them from living on the on the streets in front of our businesses and parks and defecating all over the place and get them the proper treatment that they need.
	Not build out million multi-million dollar brick and mortar facilities with beds that you know cost eighty thousand dollars a year to maintain.
	I'm talking about a self-sustaining homeless solution that was going to be beneficial for everybody.
	You get them into the program, you give them the treatment for their mental health and for their drug habit, and you give them uh these soil modular tiny homes are 400 square feet, they cost 2,000 bucks a unit, but we can pay them off at $75 a month over 27 months.
	That's a deal I've worked out with the company who makes them.
	You can hook them up to uh to what to sewer and water and power and gas lines, you can put solar panels on them if we need to.
	Um but these people are gonna do on the job training, and they'll they'll do real jobs.
	They'll do construction, and that construction stuff will be helping build these reservoirs.
	If you give 10,000 people a shovel, they can dig a pretty big hole pretty quickly, and then they can also pour concrete.
	And so rinse and repeat, that's a reservoir.
	You know, that's that's one that's one thing that we can do, and that's gonna help offset our our expense on taking care of them.
	They'll do uh sanitation work, have them clean up the sides of our highways and our our tourist traps like the wharf up in San Francisco or Hollywood Boulevard or the pier in Santa Monica, beautify our our communities and our our our roadways, make the state beautiful, clean up the trash, be environmentally conscious that way.
	And then agriculture work, they can raise crops with all that water that we're gonna be able to create, you know, the abundance of water we'll have, raising crops, and then we can turn around and use those crops if it's table grade, you know, for human consumption.
	We can sell it for as an organic field good product, and it will command a very high price.
	If it's even if it's just feed law, it'll still be you know something to help offset the expense of taking care of them.
	And then basic uh fire fighting and underbrush clearing, have them go in and help clear out the forests of the underbrush that's leading to all these devastating or being the kindling in the fuel for these uh ridiculously devastating wildfires.
	And so that will prevent these wildfires from being as frequent and as destructive, and that'll save us billions of dollars on the balance sheet right there.
	So they do all this work to earn minimum wage doing it, but you deduct the cost of their medical care and their housing and all that.
	It never puts them into a position of debt.
	That money that they earn goes into an account they can't touch until they complete the project.
	The whole while they're getting sober.
	They're building their self-esteem.
	They're learning a job skill.
	So now they've got a job skill.
	They've got their self-esteem.
	They're eligible for government-assisted housing.
	They've got money in the bank.
	And anybody who hires them coming out of the program gets a tax incentive for doing so.
	And so that's my homeless-to-home project.
	And I think it's got a lot more viability than what we're currently doing, what we're putting them in.
	hotels at 400 a night or or putting them in 2000 home depot sheds and sacking them too high this is ridiculous it's crazy I mean how did how did the homeless crisis become so bad in California?
	Well, as soon as somebody realized that they could just make – they could turn it into a homeless industrial complex.
	I mean it really started with Governor Moonbeam, Jerry Brown, and he basically told all the other states to bring – send us your homeless.
	And so that's exactly what they did.
	They'd buy them one-way bus tickets and ship them here to California because it doesn't get cold enough for them to freeze to death in the winter.
	That's why – and they get all these other incentives too like we have a clean needle program and these like safe shooting up sites.
	And we're giving them the ability to continue to live that way.
	In some places, they even get – they get money for living on the streets.
	And then there was the Obama phones.
	It's crazy.
	I see homeless people and they're out there like on their smartphones like in their – in camp next to like a business.
	It blows my mind.
	So – and then people figured out that they could turn this into a money laundering scheme.
	I mean look what's happened with last – It's crazy.
	It's like everything is for sale and the thing that I keep hearing is how the people keep getting taken advantage of.
	You're hearing about this train that God knows whose pockets that went into.
	I mean really why aren't we seeing people being tried for stealing money?
	These people should be in jail.
	But that's the thing.
	There's an absence of consequences here, Vem.
	Nobody's actually being properly held accountable.
	That's the reality.
	Nobody's actually seeing any trial.
	Nobody's seeing significant jail time repairs.
	punishment you're not it just doesn't occur because the system is so rotten and corrupt from within and it's been allowed to operate that way.
	When you have leaders that are taking advantage of the system and not putting their best foot forward and the people that work under them see that they say oh they can do that I I want to get away with that too and and and this is something I've learned from being in business and being in a in an executive leadership position.
	I held myself super accountable and I led by example because if you don't have that accountability and that leadership that leads that you've got to lead by example.
	Like I showed up, I busted my ass and people are like, wow, the family cares.
	The executives are actually involved.
	They're doing stuff.
	Look, they're working shoulder to shoulder with me and it motivates them to do the right thing and things would improve.
	But you have people that are taking advantage of this.
	I mean, look, like I was mentioning with LASA.
	Like, look, they spent...
	over a billion dollars in 2023 and they housed 800 a little over 800 people there's like 813 people.
	So it cost over a million dollars a person to house that's hyper inefficient and then the the lady that was in charge of it.
	That's not just hyper inefficient man people got rich off of that people robbed the people off of that and and I guess I mean they're telling their friends and their family go start some you know company and go buy socks off of Alibaba you know for like pennies on the dollar you know call yourself some freaking charity and we'll give you uh you know and we'll buy those socks off of you for $10 a pair.
	They're lining their pockets you know they pat themselves on the back oh look we put them in housing we've done our job because the whole the whole thing here with California is it's housing first housing first you know you put a roof over their head they're not homeless anymore it's not it's not a housing issue it's a mental health in a drug crisis in a drug epidemic.
	I mean yes they're they're not housed but it's kind of hard to get a job when you're on freaking drugs or you don't your your your mind is all bent out of shape.
	You know nobody's hiring that but that's why they need treatment that's what I'm trying to offer and so we spent what 24 25 billion dollars and we got what 50% more homeless?
	Because it's and that's the other thing too is that if they actually solve the issue then they're out of a job I mean, it is like so infuriating listening to this stuff because the fact that there's not dozens, hundreds of people in jail for doing this.
	I mean, really, what's happened is that the suffering of the people has been monetized.
	So whether it's homeless suffering, whether it's suffering through parental rights of what the family courts do with you know, taking away custody, so you're in this perpetual fight and now nobody wants to get married, whether it's uh anything, public services, why we don't have water.
	The answer to all those questions seems to be that the people's suffering equals their financial gain, which to me just sounds like the most grotesque high treason when you're when you when you're really doing destructive things to your population.
	I mean, how far how far do you take it?
	I mean, are you gonna uh prosecute these people?
	What do you think needs to happen?
	Absolutely to stop this nonsense.
	Yes, there needs to be accountability and there needs to be consequences.
	If there's criminality taking place, which I'm certain there is at some level, then there needs to be real meaningful consequences, you know, not just like, oh, we're gonna find you, slap on the wrist, you know, here's you know, you know, a couple of years in jail or whatever.
	No, like real serious consequences, but we have to have you know, judges that are gonna actually carry out these trials and give meaningful sentences.
	You also need to have sheriffs that want to uphold the constitution and do their job, because you know, we've got 58 counties, which means we have 58 sheriffs, and as a sheriff, your responsibility is to hold is to be the ultimate arbiter of the constitution.
	And so when constitutional violations take place from executive or legislative leadership or even judicial, it's their responsibility to step in and say, correct this or you will be arrested.
	But they're not doing that, and so there has to be accountability.
	Okay, so I gotta kind of chime in here and on the not doing it topic because we've heard all sorts of things about like you know, election fraud, the sheriffs could do X, Y, and Z. They can't, and none of these things seem to be happening.
	Now, why is it not?
	I mean, I have my own personal re I guess investigations that I've discovered why it's not happening because it seems as though they're all in cahoots.
	It's a big ecosystem of corruption where people do things for favors, and you said you're part of this group, you know, you're gonna sell socks that cost you 20 cents for ten dollars and you're gonna make a zillion dollars off of that.
	That seems to be what's happening.
	So, how do you how do you address that when it's an ecosystem of corruption where sheriffs aren't doing their jobs, where politicians aren't doing their jobs, they're just getting rich off of our suffering, really, at the end of the day.
	Well, you have to eliminate the bureaucracy as much as you can.
	I mean, anybody that can that's an appointed position that can be removed, then I uh that's what you do.
	You remove you just blank carte blanche, like everybody's gone.
	Everybody's gone.
	You want that job back, reapply.
	And you actually have real vetting process take place with people who are actually motivated to make sure that things run appropriately and correctly.
	And that's that's that's one way to start it is with the appointed positions that come from the bureaucratic bloat.
	The other thing, too, that you have to have is transparency.
	So what we don't have in like in any good business, you have a purchasing department, but the state doesn't have that.
	So what do we do?
	All the budgets for all these different entities that you know, it's like spend all your money or you don't get as much or more next year.
	Anything that they sure give them their money, you know, I I would like to rein in the spending all together.
	I would like to just flat out out the gate, cut every every department by 10% across the board.
	And because I've been in positions where that's happened and they're just like, we need the money to do this.
	It's like no, and the whole response is figure it the F out.
	And so that's what you gotta do.
	And so having any um anything that they want to ex you know, expense capital on purchasing-wise for the department, you know, obviously aside from you know, salaries and labor and all that, uh has to go through a purchasing department.
	Oh, you want to go and buy like I don't know, you want to go and and build out a uh let's say a restroom at your at your sheriff's department, okay.
	That all has to be you know done through a purchasing department who's gonna sign off on whether that's a uh uh you know acceptable at that the price that you found.
	So, you know, because in a purchasing department's job is to make sure that you're getting at least the The the qual the base quality that you require at the best possible price.
	That's what a purchasing department's supposed to do.
	So when we don't have a purchasing department, you have people that are you know, these the sheriff departments will go and spend a million dollars on like some crazy mobile, you know, command center that will never see action, but you know their friend owns the company that makes it, you know.
	You just give an example, you just gave everybody knows I'm not gonna touch upon this topic too much, but obviously with the Chad Bianco situation, our deep dives into that department, and you seem to have a lot of I'm not gonna stay on that topic, but you seem to have a lot of that sort of thing where it's like a bathroom that would cost a hundred thousand dollars is being billed at six hundred thousand dollars, and everybody is making a whole lot of money by this level of corruption again.
	The same sort of thing with the trail uh rail system that never happened, and they spend gazillion dollars, you know.
	Um the other problem I find in this is that okay, we have a lot of problems, and we see that you know, there's 58 sheriffs, they're not doing their jobs of politicians, they're just making themselves rich, right?
	But then we have this California G OP and whoever, you know, whoever that is collectively, uh, seem to be really pushing one or two candidates.
	There seems to be a lot of really great candidates like yourself, uh, that are not getting that much love.
	Tell me a little bit about what's going on there, whether you're frustrated.
	How do you how do we fix that issue?
	It's two heads of the same monster, Vem.
	I mean, you have look, there are there are good people on both political, major mainstream political parties.
	Okay, there are good people.
	The vast majority of them happen to be on the Republican side, but they are only the the grassroots.
	You have the establishment rhinos, and you have the woke progressive Marxist globalist left, okay.
	And they're actually it's two heads of the same monster.
	They don't they have figured out how to make money in California, especially the CA G OP, they figured out how to make money being losers day in and day out.
	The fact that the chair of the California GOP makes more money in salary than the governor does annually, and now has a bonus structure built in, is kind of a crazy concept.
	And of course they're not gonna talk to me.
	You know why?
	Because I don't I'm gonna piss in their soup.
	I'm here to clean up this whole uh you know, taking advantage of the people.
	And so what they do is they they artificially fill the uh the internal voting inside the party with all these proxies.
	Uh, you know, they give all these proxy votes out to all these different people, especially these these like college republicans, young Republicans, and they say you're gonna vote for our people, and we're gonna make sure you get a job in politics somewhere, advance your career.
	And these kids show up, they don't know the dynamic, they don't know the history, they don't know the background or you know, the infighting that's taking place in the party.
	They just they're just like, oh, that's the person in charge are gonna give me a job.
	I'm I'm I'm a you know, gung-ho young conservative, you know.
	I want to go do my thing, and so they go and they give them the little clicker and then they vote for the person that they're told, and the grassroots people get pushed out.
	I mean, like they just like flushed in because we're having our convention coming up, like 300 new associate delegates, you know, and they there's they just pump up the voting numbers.
	I mean, it's it's it's so ironic how we're the Republican Party, right?
	And we talk about the election integrity, voter fraud and doing all an inflated voter rolls, and here we are doing the same thing internally in our own party.
	You know, and and when we interviewed uh David Serpa and Daniel Mercury, they talked about this, how they're both being set up to come to a debate where it was already decided who the winner was, but they were basically it's this humiliation ritual that they want to put them through.
	They both found out that it was all set up, they even confronted the individuals.
	Initially they denied it, but then eventually it was admitted that before the debate even happened, they decided who the winner is.
	Oh, yeah, no, that's using them as props.
	Yes, and I actually went to that and they gave us like it wasn't even a debate, they gave us three minutes to talk.
	I mean, it was I and that's the thing.
	Like, I spent my time and my money and took my butt out there to go and do it.
	I mean, like, and I and Daniel called me and told me about that.
	And I knew it was a setup from the start, but you know what?
	I was like, you know what?
	Uh you know, F these MFers, like, I'm gonna go do this anyways, you know, because I'm talking about the people that are made the setup, that is.
	You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this anyways, because you know what?
	I'm a bigger I'm uh I'm I'm a big man here, and uh I'm gonna show you, you know, what a real solution sounds like, but you know, it's all favoritism, right?
	It's all like, oh well, you know, and that's the other thing, too, is is Republicans are so desperate in this state, they're just so desperate that and they're it's always the older ones, it's the boomers, and you know, for all the boomers out there, I'm sorry, but you need to break off of Fox News and do your own research and don't just accept the first Republican that shows up or I saw them on TV.
	That means they're legitimate.
	It's like, no, they're not, you know, because it's the same TV stations that lie to you about COVID that lied to you about the the 2020 election.
	It's the same, it's the same ones, nothing's changed.
	Okay, and now they're pushing these people like you don't know them.
	You like you're like, Oh, I saw them on TV.
	That's all I need to know.
	They're a Republican.
	End of story.
	Oh, he's got a badge.
	Oh, he's got a he used to work uh, you know, in the UK government.
	Great, who gives a crap?
	Like, what do they actually bring to the table?
	What solutions?
	Like anybody can talk about what's wrong with this place, it's how we get out of this mess.
	They don't offer that.
	It's crazy, man.
	It's crazy.
	The whole thing's rigged to basically funnel their people into money because they because the because the CAGOP, they want to find a candidate who they think they can utilize to bring in the most money into the party.
	Fundraising, fundraising.
	It's who can bring the most money into the party, yeah.
	And when they do, it's like, okay, they tell them you're gonna work with this person and you're gonna hire that person, and they all keep it all in the family.
	It's one hand wash and the other.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I almost think that I mean, there's a lot of great candidates.
	I mean, you guys are obviously talking, you guys are obviously communicating via phone.
	I mean, there's gotta be a time where you guys unify to beat the biggest monster that exists here.
	Oh, no, honestly, the party itself, yeah.
	No, that is the biggest obstacle to success here in California, is our own internal state party corruption and the lack of actually wanting to do the right thing, and they won't they won't host a proper debate, and they're telling the other candidates not to debate these, you know, the lower quote unquote.
	I mean, it is it is sorry to interrupt you, but it is such a bad form because really what's happening, and I could tell you the way this plays out, you know.
	Obviously, there's a lot of people, especially in River the Riverside GOP that are wanting to push Chad Bianco forward.
	That's part of that rigged debate that we just talked about with Mercury SERP uh being tipped off early on that this was rigged, right?
	So fine, it's rigged.
	You really love that guy.
	Have we thought about the next steps to that?
	Have we looked at it more in a 40 chess kind of way?
	Because the time's gonna come that that person is going to have to face off against a democrat, right?
	And it's obvious that that is the weakest possible person.
	No, they're going to be able to do that.
	They're going to lose, they're setting up a loser.
	So my mind, after being, you know, five, six years is like never, Vem, they don't care.
	No, but to me, I'm like, all right, is it just they're trying to raise funds, right?
	One option is they're trying to raise funds.
	They know he's a loser, but they just want to raise maximum dollars because there's a lot of fanatical types that are into them.
	Or is it that this is per literally intentionally setting up a loser?
	Because you could imagine like a Bianco versus Porter, he loses that, right?
	Now, uh Porter versus you know, like a Zachy, man, you the way you hold yourself, you know, you're not you don't seem like you're gonna fall into those traps of ill temperament and twitching and the kind of stuff we've seen Bianco do, right?
	Uh Serpa, he knows how to hold himself well.
	Mercury seems to hold himself well, even Hilton.
	I would put in there.
	You have a guy with a British accent, you know.
	No, no, Californians aren't going for that.
	There's I'm purely not, they're not.
	They just I'm purely talking about optically like who is the point I'm trying to make really is like you're putting the worst person forward for that kind of a challenge when there's a number of other individuals that'll handle that challenge much better.
	Anybody with a little bit of foresight could know that that is the issue.
	So I question their intentions.
	I guess that's my point.
	Well, the state party or the the candidates.
	No, no, not the candidates so much.
	I mean, the candidates, I think are uh relatively clueless to this kind of a thing.
	I'm talking about, you know, why would you put up a bad candidate because they don't support they don't because it's it's not about winning, it's about it's about making money and continuing to stay in power.
	I mean, it's the same thing like they gave Jessica Patterson an illegal third term according to our bylaws internally.
	They keep they keep breaking their own bylaws internally.
	It's crazy.
	And they keep and they give themselves raises.
	And they give themselves raises, and in winning, losing in losing their winning, we're losing.
	They're winning, though.
	This seems like they're doing well.
	Hey, there's somebody of influence, they're the head of the party.
	They get to meet Donald Trump.
	Uh they're a somebody.
	They can make you or break you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a freaking power trip.
	Power trip.
	Leo, this has been a really good interview, man.
	I'm glad uh we've gone deeper look into you.
	I think we've uh addressed a lot of the things in terms of people getting to know you better, your history, misconceptions, you know, the hard work that you did, even earning your strikes for your your family business coming up under your grandmother and grandfather.
	Uh is there anything, you know, message to the people?
	Is there anything you want to discuss before we wrap it up, man?
	The mic's all yours.
	Um this isn't about party anymore.
	It's it's not like there is a broken system here.
	Our government is so corrupt.
	Our parties are corrupt, and the only people that are being are benefiting are the ones that are in those positions of power, and everybody else around them is suffering.
	We, the regular people are suffering.
	Our streets are broken, they're full of homeless, everything's expensive, nothing works, the quality of life sucks.
	And what do we get?
	What?
	Oh, we got the weather.
	Oh, we this is how wonderful we got the weather here in California.
	Whoop de-doo, you know, it's you know, in and out burgers, expensive, you know.
	Hell, even when I go to Del Taco at like three in the morning after playing hockey, it's like, how the hell are a couple of tacos like 20 bucks?
	It's crazy.
	Nothing works.
	Everybody talks about what's wrong with this place.
	It's very apparent that there are key foundational issues here that impact everybody.
	We know what they are.
	But the problem is is that the leadership doesn't have a solution, and they don't want to fix it because they don't care about you.
	And this is my home.
	Okay.
	I'm a fourth generation Californian.
	I grew up here, born and raised in Los Angeles, spent a lot of my time in the Central Valley working with my family.
	I know this state up and down inside and out, and I've developed the solutions to actually fix this place from a business background perspective.
	Where anything you want to do has to have a way of being able to offset itself with a net positive return.
	We can have lower taxes in the state.
	We can have affordable gas in the state, we can have jobs in this state.
	We can not we can eliminate property tax, we can have school choice, we can have the highest quality education.
	We can build an environment to have the lowest possible taxes.
	I'd love to get rid of them all together, but we have to utilize our resources and manage them properly.
	We have to have accountability.
	We have to have consequences for those who choose to go down the wrong path and negatively impact so many of us.
	I don't need this job.
	I trust me, I I have so many other things I'd rather do.
	This is going against my better judgment of running out here and becoming a public figure, spending my own good time and hard money on this.
	I'm in for this, I'm in this race for over a million of my own personal dollars.
	Okay.
	I don't want to run away from this because this is my home, and this destructive failing government is rife throughout our country.
	And I want to put a stop to it here in California.
	Okay.
	I want people to live the lives that they want.
	I want people to create the opportunities and their own wealth here.
	They just need to be empowered and have that opportunity.
	I want to utilize technology.
	I want to streamline the process where people can go and get permitting to start a business or or build an addition to their home or or get an alcohol license or whatever, you know, utilizing AI and streamlining it and having an efficient government website.
	I want transparency.
	I don't care what political party you're affiliated with.
	You can't tell me that we don't have a homeless problem or we have a mismanagement of resources or or life is too expensive.
	I have the solutions to make the cost of living come down, to make the quality of life go up, and that way people can have the lives that they deserve.
	This isn't about me.
	Okay.
	This is about my home and all my other Californians.
	I want this place to work.
	And um Yeah.
	I just I really hope that you guys will give me the opportunity to do that for you because I don't trust any of these other guys.
	And I've done my research, and I would I would encourage you guys to do your research too.
	Um it's really that simple.
	I just I'd love the opportunity to be that person for you guys.
	I don't need this.
	And look, if you see something wrong that I'm doing, you're not happy, like call me out.
	Like hold my ass accountable.
	Hold my feet to the fire, please.
	And if you're unhappy with the work I do, then don't reelect me.
	Man, I think all things considered, I mean, we need to, we need this change in California and, you know, I like you am concerned about what's going on in the Republican Party because I I think before this race even started, they shot we the people in the foot.
	Uh obviously there's probably a dozen people that filled their pockets on this, but we're not pushing the great candidates forward.
	We're just not right now.
	And you know, what we're doing is not working.
	It's not working.
	No.
	But Leo, I really appreciate your time, brother.
	Thank you so much for coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
	You know, for the viewers out there, we're covering uh we're gonna interview as many candidates as that will allow us to interview them, including Democrats, by the way, uh, because it's very important for people to know what's going on in in this race.
	What I'm noticing is that uh all that stuff that was happening with what we used to call the woke left is happening now with just a woke right where it's dishonesty, uh lying about who's out there and their attributes, you know.
	Uh, we have uh government employees that have done those kinds of entrepreneurship in their life, running against a number of individuals that have those skills.
	And we gotta look at those individuals I mean much closer because I don't think we're looking in the right direction right now.
	At least that's my two cents, you know.
	Uh, thank you, Leo, again for coming into the Blood Money Podcast.
	For the viewers out there, make sure you check out America Happens.com where we have all of our featured episodes, and make sure you check out my ex account at not Vema Vem Miller, where we're posting posts ten times a day.
	Old episodes, new episodes.
	I will see you all on the next episode of Blood Money.
	Take care.
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