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Aug. 29, 2025 - Blood Money
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Leaving Hollywood to Expose the Truth about the Deep State with John Davidson
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All right guys, we are here at the Rev17 Conference, a wonderful event and really the goal of this event is to stop child trafficking these wonderful this wonderful church is trying to raise four million dollars to buy a big compound where they want to sounds like they want to house hundreds potentially thousands of children that have been trafficked that have no family so they could surround them with love give them the support they need to overcome their trauma and i have this wonderful gentleman with me here uh john davidson and
he is an incredible documentary maker and a media professional and um the reason why i wanted to interview john is because we have a similar background we came from the mainstream hollywood business and we were talking uh before we started this interview about how hard it's been to, you know, we've been enlightened with a lot of information in terms of the child trafficking, the evil in our world, and conveying that to some of the people we used to work with.
It seems like a really big challenge.
So first, let's start off, you know, introduce yourself, what you do.
Yeah, so I lived in Hollywood for 20, 25 years, worked on movies and TV shows and marketing and things like that.
Everything was great up until about 2021.
And I was asked to promote Fauci and the vaccines for a project.
And I just said, I can't do this.
I think my direct quote was, how can I?
do this and still have a soul?
And I don't think the VP had ever been asked that question before at the network.
So ultimately I had to back out and chose a new path.
And that involved investigating fraud and medical fraud and Fauci and the vaccines and early treatment options and hydroxychlorofyllin and all these weird things that the media had suddenly decided to villainize.
First, I really thought that I was trying to expose an anti-Trump bias towards anything that he supported, right?
Like if he said the sky was blue, Hollywood would declare that it was green.
And based on the smog levels, sometimes they might be right.
As soon as he said a thing, half the world would go insane and declare the opposite.
And it's funny, you know, to that end, like I've kind of started asking questions on like social media posts, like, or not even ask the questions, but just, you know, putting it out there.
Like you can hate Donald Trump, but you can also ask what Anthony Fauci was asking.
was actually up to.
Yeah.
You can hate Donald Trump and still agree with him on something.
And, you know, it's nice to see like Bill Maher.
Marr start to approach that as painful and slow as it is for him to get that basic logical concept.
It's interesting to see it start to slowly unfold.
Yeah.
You know, I always knew there was a bias in Hollywood against anything conservative or Republican.
But now I never saw any of the, you know, the horrible evil acts that they are describing here.
On that topic, you know, just having, I went to a music video, I was a music video director for like seven years, you know, and, you know, I didn't see like anything like what they're talking about.
I mean, certainly there was a lot of, I mean, the music itself of that era is pretty clear what's going on because it's all about sex, promiscuity, doing drugs.
And, you know, you could imagine freak offs in a lot of the songs of that era because of what they were trying to sell.
Right.
Yeah.
And I've seen the propaganda.
I've seen how they tried to bring, you know, even in the music, the filthy music, filthy lyrics.
I mean, this has been going on.
And you and I might have been like, all right, it's, you know, this kind of hard operating world in terms of their propaganda.
But then COVID comes along and you know that Jab's going to hurt people.
Yep.
And I don't think people understand a lot of people in the Magic Movement.
how some of us actually came from the mainstream gave up so much because we felt that we couldn't be part of that propaganda machine right yeah yeah i mean it um if dude it was a good life i had yeah well it was so good and then um to to take a stand like that and then to pursue documentaries which was Yeah, direct opposite.
And not to mention, it always ends up terrible, but never do that.
It always ends up like people listening to your phone lines.
All of a sudden, you know, you're getting hacked here and there.
I mean, it's just like a lot of misery enters your life when you decide to go against the narrative, you know?
You know, it's, I mean, I can't undo it.
And I don't think I would be able to undo it.
I don't even know if I'd want to undo it.
No, like, you understand things from a different perspective.
I mean, you can't be part of that system until it's corrected.
And it doesn't mean, look, I'm not trying to change everyone in Hollywood's opinions.
I have lots of liberal aspects.
I mean, I have electric cars and solar power.
I think it's awesome.
Oops.
I mean, theoretically, that could also be conservative too.
I feel like this is a brain.
I feel like they kind of brainwash us into this conservative liberal.
Yeah.
They want to bring it in boxes.
Yeah, because it's like, okay, when you're talking about being conserving, yes, conserving energy and that sort of thing, I mean, that could still fit within that bucket.
I think we've just, you know, psychologically operated on to divide, to divide.
It's almost like a Crips and Bloods gang mentality.
Dude, and you also have like a six trillion dollar industry dedicated to combustible gas injuries.
Yeah.
Six trillion dollars.
That's a big amount of money.
Yeah.
And the whole economy is based on this petrodollar system.
So yeah, there's going to be motivation to keep that there.
And also, look, you've got Texas, right?
Big conservative state, also big oil state.
So they are threatened a little bit by solar, whatever.
Now, look, I don't think that solar is the most perfect thing.
It's only good about half the day.
Yeah, yeah.
You got to figure out something to do on the other half.
And Wynn seems to be – Well, I've heard about like what sounds very legitimate.
I'm talking about in production, about to be released in the next year or so, this kind of like a box, which is some kind of nuclear perpetual energy.
Yeah, so there's a microcell nuclear reactors.
I think they're microcells.
Anyway, there's a guy named Taylor.
Boy, I sent a redneck there, isn't it?
Taylor.
It's great.
I love it when it comes out, dude.
Coach Taylor.
See, they say America doesn't have culture.
Your culture is here, bro.
The boy out of Georgia, but you can't take the Georgia out of the boy.
There you go.
Anyway, I forget his last name, but...
uh he was 17 years old he built a nuclear reactor in his uh garage in arizona he came up with this concept that is so dope, dude.
17 years old building nuclear reactors.
Oh, yeah.
Cool sentence.
And he did this whole cool new nuclear reactor.
And then he had this concept for these micro nuclear reactors that could do like 50 megawatts.
So you could do like a small town, like you could do it very easily.
And if it overreacted, you just flush it and it wouldn't disconnect.
And apparently it ran off of the residue or the waste of old nuclear reactors.
So we had this amazing thing that could eliminate, you know, because we had to build like what was a yucca mountain uh to where we're we had a 50 billion dollar port project yeah we're going to bury all the uh nuclear waste in the country yeah and then um somebody found a couple of drops of water at the bottom and uh the nevada said oh we can't do this thanks for the 50 billion we'll just hang on to this big hole in the mountain so you know we we had a great way to
eliminate waste because we can't store it in San Clemente, California, sent an offer.
You know the scene from Naked Gun where at the very beginning, the first movie, Leslie Neal.
movie leslie nielson was talking about his breakup with his girlfriend he goes everywhere i go something reminds yeah yeah the breast okay sorry it's a terrible i said breast all the women in the room would that be like freaking church sorry but it was a funny scene anyway saninofrey uh that's instead of moving that uh old waste from that old nuclear reactor This is a joke, but it's real.
They bury it in the sand.
So they've got barrels of nuclear waste in the sand along the coast of California when we have earthquakes and risks of tidal waves.
So like at any point, one bad disaster, one avalanche under water 100 miles out could cause a disaster.
Like the whole coastline becomes nuclear is what you're saying.
I mean, maybe.
What is the Fukushima nuclear disaster vibe?
Except this is radioactive waste that they decided to destroy there.
So, you know, we had a great solution.
This is Taylor Kidd came up with vanished.
He vanished or he still exists, but everything he was talking about has gone away.
So what happened?
They shut him up basically.
I don't know if he got brought in.
to work on DART projects or whatever.
Or maybe he was, you know, hired, given a big paycheck to work for, you know, I forget which company it is, but there are companies that are making these things now.
So it has come to market.
So maybe that's what he's been working on and he couldn't talk about it.
You know, lawyers get involved.
Yeah, yeah.
Who knows?
So out of it, you're alive.
Everything fun happens.
I mean, being alive after coming up with a perpetual energy project, that's a big win.
Right.
Now some people say that, you know, oh, it's not really sustainable.
The effort to do the micro reactors is complicated and more complicated than you realize., but there are a lot of different ways to generate energy.
And it would not surprise me in the least that we may have cold fusion already.
Yeah.
And I mean, because think about it, we lost Sun and Alfred Nuclear Reactor.
We don't have that many blackouts in California.
Something's given us energy.
I mean, obviously, we're just saying compared to before, we used to get a lot of blackouts.
Well, we had more, apparently, right?
it's entirely possible that we have a cold fusion reaction system already in place and the public just doesn't know about it because if your energy was free, how Yeah, yeah, totally.
But do you think, okay, let me ask you on that tip.
Do you think that this idea of paying for energy with the economy, you know, okay, because the reason I ask this is because we do this thing called the America 3.0 Conference.
It involves a lot of different categories of what is called the freedom movement, you know, uniting Republicans, you know, JFA Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, and stuff, all right.
And, you know, as we're putting this festival together, it, you know, really kind of all these new ideas started to come forward, right?
Where it's like doing with the nuclear fusion reactors.
But the big thing that became clear in our when we're talking about AI is that AI is going to take over a lot of what humans get paid for, right?
So we're entering a new economy and people are talking about this thing like the Internet Bill of Rights, right?
For example, they use our data.
Everybody starts getting paid for their data if they choose their data to be used because these guys are making money.
So these kind of groundbreaking ideas that will then replace the incomes that are going to start going away rapidly due to AI, you know?
And that is something that we got to kind of think forward to because if we're still doing the same paradigm, which we're still paying for our energy and everything's the cost it is, this new.
economy doesn't work.
So it seems like the only option we have is free energy, cold fusion or something like in the little nuclear reactor where you do this one-time painting, you got 20 years of energy, you know, um thoughts.
Um, yeah, we're gonna have to like the entire energy policy of the United States needs to be investigated, reviewed.
But look, if you take away, if you take away the need for oil.
oil is still a great resource for energy and it fuels like you you can't you can't run a tractor on electric or a plane or a you know certain Certain things just require a more robust immediate energy source, and that is a good thing for the oil industry.
But if you were to hash their profits, Texas would have problems, because Texas is a state that doesn't charge personal income tax.
They are lucky that they have this massive resource there.
What happens to Texas if suddenly they have half the money they had before?
What happens to any industry that you need cap?
So, you know, the disruption, and this may be why if we do have cold fusion, it's not discussed.
Is that because to bring it out too fast.
You know, they did a whole movie, what was it, Chain Reaction?
Can a Reeves.
Yeah, where basically they discover cold fusion and the government comes in and murders everyone involved because the world wasn't ready.
If you gave free energy, it would destabilize.
Now we like that idea.
I think at this point the system needs needs a good enema.
This town needs an enema.
Yeah.
But it's it's it's true.
Like the industries of energy medicine, government, everything has kind of reached a breaking point.
So that's it.
We're going to have to go ahead and just rip the band-aid off at some point.
Look, electrical energy costs in California have gone up tremendously in the last 10 years.
We had solar in 2008 or 2009.
And it was way better then.
Like you had better tiers.
Like you got more money for the electricity that you generated.
They didn't charge you as much.
I think we were paying like 15 cents a kilowatt 10 years ago.
Now we're paying 25, 50 cents a kilowatt if you charge your electric car.
And by the way, nobody talks about.
this, but the most brilliant thing that Elon has done, of many brilliant things that he's spearheaded or shepherded or whatever you want to call it, is he has a lock on all of the electric charge stations across the country.
I mean, complete ownership of it.
The other guys, like, you don't even like, I have no idea what the other chargers are, like, the off-brand, non-Tesla chargers.
And now, like, driving up here to Sacramento this past week, there were, um, Lucids charging or Rivian's charging.
There were at the Tesla.
Oh, did the synchronous charges work?
Yeah, I think they've opened it up now to other.
other car manufacturers.
Which basically means that he has, imagine if you owned every single gas station in the United States.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what he's got, but except it's electric.
So they're making profit off of those charging because I mean, I'm curious just because of somebody that fills up his tank for 50 bucks.
What does it cost every time you charge your battery?
Yesterday I added 100 miles to the car at a charger over here and it was about $10.
$10.
So that was like 45 cents a kilowatt, which is really high.
Well, two years ago I think maybe it was 30 cents.
Yeah.
So it's it's gone up dramatically.
Nobody's talking about that.
Nobody like you don't see signs that show you the price of electricity.
Yeah.
I mean, it's on your car that'll tell you, oh, this is what the charge rate is, peak, non peak, whatever.
But I mean, it's this is a this is a sleeper profit system that Tesla has that I don't think is properly reflected in the price of it because it's only going to get better.
He's added more and more charge stations all over the place.
Now they're almost like becoming their own little social place too.
Like there's a place, I think Kettleman on the i five coming up, the i5 i5 yeah yeah uh anyway you get there and you plug your car in you use the app get a code and you go into this building and in the building there's like this clubhouse exclusively for tesla owners there's no gas station associated with it no building whatever so there's there's a lot of um interesting innovative things going on in the charging world that tesla
is spearheaded and that's a big benefit for them.
So whatever happens with car sales or whatever else, if he sold less cars and those people went to go buy Lucids or Rivians or any other electric car brand, they're still going to charge at a Tesla charge spot.
So he wins no matter what they choose.
So people might get mad at Elon and pick a different brand.
They're still going to charge for it.
already.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Otherwise they're going to be in hell trying to find a charger.
Wow.
On a road trip.
Wow.
So you're saying so what cost me $50 to fill my tank costs you $10.
You're saying is that a whole charge.
100 miles.
So full charge would probably be $15 to $20.
Really full charge?
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're saying about $30.
Yeah, and it depends if you're charging at night when it's empty or you're charging in the day when there's a line.
If you charge it at home, what's the price?
What is that $10?
The price is based on whatever your electricity is.
SoCal Edison right now is, I think, $0.25 during off-peak and then $0.50 during peak hours.
So it's basically the same more or less price.
Similar.
Your slight motivation to charge at home.
But if you have solar, that helps tremendously because you're offsetting the cost.
i did solar not with an 80 grand uh you know investment that i got a lien whatever i did it as our owner builder used my home owner's insurance uh which has a 100 000 workers comp policy i think built into it in case somebody gets hurt.
And I hired an electrician and I hired a tiler, a roof tiler, because in California we have a lot of these clay tiles.
And the crews came in one Saturday and it solved it all for me.
I bought the panels myself from a wholesaler.
And I think all told my 6.8 kilowatt system cost, I don't know, 15 grand.
So if you pay upfront and you do it as an owner builder, it's more complicated.
You've got to hire plans and things like that.
Like I get an architect to an electrical engineer actually to do the up.
But it's doable and it's more affordableable.
You gotta take a little risk.
And even like the city, when I did it, they were like, you know, you're doing this yourself, right?
And I was like, yeah, it's okay.
So, you know, they're not used to it, but I liked it.
It was kind of scary.
Very cool.
You do a lot of investigative journalism.
You're sharing some stories with me yesterday that really blew my mind.
You know, you want to talk a little bit about some of the work that you've done.
Yeah.
And, you know, what you expose.
So, 2020, I did a very anonymous, masked voice version of Broken Truth and the Epidemic of Fraud.
And no one was allowed to watch it.
Apple had censored library.tv and said you can't talk about, you can't show results for anything involving early treatment, COVID, COVID origins.
Pepe the frog.
Apple put these regulations on library when they were trying to get an app for the App Store.
And then it came out, and Elon tweeted about it.
heads of library.tv talked about it.
Apple, I sent requests for information from them on it.
They didn't want to answer.
But they're notoriously silent about these things.
But I took that original documentary and then spent the next three years refining it.
I kind of feel like God was like, okay kid, you're not going to get to hide behind your mask and your computer.
You're going to have to be public.
And so that's what I did.
And I started at CNN.
So I had a background a little bit in journalism before I went to Hollywood.
So this documentary covers really the media manipulation and response to hydroxychloroquine.
Wow.
Which is why, you know, I talked about bias earlier.
I thought that it was mostly just anti-Trump bias that was fueling that.
But it does appear that it was also the pharmaceutical industry's control of advertising dollars, right?
That helped prompt news networks to oppose hydroxychloroquine.
Because here's the thing.
Donald Trump promoted hydroxychloroquine.
The news panicked, media panicked, deep state panicked.
organizations within the government, BARTA, HHS, FDA, CDC, they all rejected it, even though this medication, hydroxychloroquine, is based on chinine, the oldest chemical compound ever used to treat infectious disease.
Wow.
Ever.
Wow.
Chinine was ground up from a bark of a cinchona tree from Peru was used to treat malaria.
But what was malaria in the 1600s?
it meant bad air so it was any kind of you know congestive pneumonia or whatever you would get from malaria that's what they were treating they didn't have pcr test you think you think like everything was called malaria the 1600s So this was a medication used to treat all kinds of respiratory illnesses.
And the system decided that it was bad.
And once they decided it was bad, especially because Donald Trump promoted it, they went full tilt against it.
Now, what's weird is Donald Trump promoted the COVID vaccines.
Media's all good with that.
No, no, we don't have any problems with that.
So that's really an indication that the Trump bias was not, like it's selectively utilized.
Which is, that can send you down a whole rabbit hole of, you know, is he part of the news when he works on, is he?
he cleverly knowing what the news will attack and not attack?
I don't know.
That's all speculation, but the document.
The documentary really covers a whole range of topics.
It covers immediate response to hydroxychloroquine, the history of hydroxychloroquine, which is that's a whole thing.
There's a crazy thing where the history of hydroxychloroquine, when you learn that in the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln had a blockade on the southern states to prevent cotton shipments, weapons shipments and imports of hydroxychloroquine, of chinine.
He wanted southern state soldiers to be, or confederate soldiers to be sick with malaria.
area because in the south you know you had tons of mosquitoes and uh one of the things i learned was that john wilkes booth smuggled um quinine to people in the southern states because he was a traveling actor there's like letters where his sister was begging him to bring bring it in so the restriction of access to hydroxychloroquine and its um derivatives uh has been a known tactic of biological warfare for hundreds of years.
George Washington, one of the first things when he agreed to fight the Brits for the revolution or the rebellion or whatever they called it.
One of the first things he asked his political masters, that's what the history books say, political masters, was to buy as much cinchona and quinine as possible, because the Spanish had a lock on sources of that medication, and they used it for to pick and choose winners of battles.
So, or wars.
So that's, So I mean, the quinine was also involved in World War I, World War II, and what may end up being called World War III.
Which is this kind of COVID war, everything that's been going on.
Wow.
I mean, so, you know, I go into a lot of Ron Johnson's great Senate hearings that the media has wholeheartedly ignored.
I was there actually, the COVID cartel hearings.
Oh, yeah.
Ron Johnson with Lara Logan and pretty much a lot of the frontline doctors.
Yeah.
So we've got a couple of good people in the Senate and Congress.
And thankfully, they did these events.
And I try to cover that a little bit in the movie.
But interesting things have happened since the.
movie came out.
One of the people that was spearheading the attacks on hydroxychloroplane, Janet Woodcock, when I told her and asked a statement from her, she announced her resignation or retirement eight days later.
Yeah, yeah, which we were talking about this topic yesterday with judges retiring, people retiring, usually what happens with when the fraud catches up to people, especially judges, right?
Let's use a judge as an example because that has repercussions that they're obviously trying to conceal, which is that they often retire a judge just when the judge's criminal history comes to fruition.
because then they got to turn everything that person did if it's proven that person is a fraud and is using their power.
So a lot of time they just retire people.
Yeah.
When is Boseberg going to retire?
Good guess.
I mean, you keep hearing that guy's name show up.
How many, how many times can Boseberg be involved in these very i mean this how can this one judge be at the epicenter of so much evil yeah because you know they schedule their they create their own schedules it's like coincidence he ops up the guy that's going to be the political operative it's like that, it's corruption of our judiciary.
Right.
And like that, where C probably did something to fix his own schedule or corrupt people put him in that position to be able to influence these cases.
Yeah.
You know, they retire them.
They retire them when they're all done, you know?
Yeah.
It's, you know, no, I guess there's no sport in going after them once they're out.
Because they can't do any more damage.
I mean, exposing them, I think, is critical.
We did that on one judge that actually did leave the profession.
And we still kept exposing him.
And he really only got his comeuppance because of that.
Because he deserved, he deserved jail time, you know?
Now, let me ask you this.
We've been talking about being in Hollywood and trying to share what we've learned about the dangers that a lot of our co-workers, associates face.
I mean, what do we do there?
You know, there's definitely people So if people are super liberal, they're going to hire their super liberal friends.
And how do they know each other?
Well, they support the LGBTQ movement.
They volunteer for the Hillary campaign.
They know each other just from their associations and those groups.
And then they hire each other.
And that's how it sort of perpetuates.
So if you're conservative, you have to keep your mouth shut.
And if you don't keep your mouth shut, you don't get hired.
And that's, you know, they have the right to pick and choose who they were.
If you're a vice president of a network, sure, why not?
they need the audience in the flyover states.
Yeah.
So that's a very curious thing.
I think what's going to end up happening is Hollywood's pretty dead right now.
I mean, the movie theater industry is suffering.
I mean, when's the last time you went to the movies?
First of all, I mean, when's the last time we have the movies, right?
And all.
Second of all, when's the last time you went and you were like, oh my gosh, so many great movies.
I don't know what to see tonight.
What are my options?
Yeah.
You'd have to take a time machine back to like 1994 or 1998 to be like, wow, there's like five amazing movies I'll ever watch, you know?
I mean, where you, like, you had to go like the weekend multiple times and see all the stuff you wanted.
But now, like, I don't have any interest.
Like, even Marvel can't seem to pull out a hit these days.
I mean, Oppenheimer, I think was the last movie I saw in the theaters because that was a good theater film.
Yeah, I think I saw I saw Sound of, I know, I saw Nefarious.
That was pretty interesting.
Sound of Freedom, you know, some of these Maverick was probably a great man.
Well, did you feel like Universal was mad that it was successful?
Like maybe a little.
Like they're very like these guys are all woke and stuff.
Like it's and that's this crazy thing.
It's like the movie that's going to save their business.
Literally, Maverick saved the film business after out of it that's a literal statement you know people are like oh we still need to see movies in theaters because that was a roller coaster of an experience amazing experience right now you know that should be a big win but we know from working in hollywood that they don't like to win like that they want to win with the content that's a propaganda that fits with the liberal mindset yeah they want wicked They want wicked.
And a lot of people don't want, was Wicked a big movie or I don't even know, did it make a lot of money?
I'm not really sure.
I know the Snow White thing completely failed.
It seems like whenever they do woke stuff, it doesn't make any money and stuff.
So the logic would be like to make these pro-America films like Maverick that support our traditional values because those make a billion and a half dollars.
Yeah.
So to that end, I think maybe what's going to have to happen is either Hollywood gets broken to the point that it finally opens up to filmmakers like us.
I've got so many movies and shows in my head that I could make that are not copies, clones of the things that already exist.
They are fun, exciting, educational, good for kids.
Like there's all kinds of stuff we could be making.
We're Yeah, that's the best way to say it.
Maybe the consolidation of studios was a bad thing.
Why is Warner Brothers allowed to merge with Discovery and get a tax-free write-off?
And now they're broke and they're having to split it again.
You know, why aren't we asking questions like why does this get allowed to continue?
Why did Disney get to buy Fox?
I mean, we need diversity in our creative endeavors.
Otherwise, you're going to have one company that owns everything.
Which is a monopoly, which shouldn't exist.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not saying he's a great guy, but Weinstein oversaw some of my favorite movies, like the Kill Bill movies.
You know, man, Weinstein's an interesting topic because it's interesting to me that the greatness of Hollywood seized when that kind of producer that was actually doing the groundbreaking films stopped to exist.
It's crazy.
I actually knew RB.
I actually knew RB.
Yeah, I did.
I actually knew RB.
You know, it's very hard to talk about things when people are so black and white about stuff.
Right.
It's like, you know, I'll give you an example with this whole Iran thing if you questioned it half of MAGA would be like you are a traitor to Trump and whatever if you ask a simple question of like do they really have like weapons of mass destruction because you know we've been told that a number of times and turned out to be not true and seems logical because if you've been through oh you lied to me lied to me lied to me and now you're like questioning this it seems like the logical thing but it's just everything's so black and white with the way people think so they don't see shades of gray right you
know unless it's the movie shades of gray yeah yeah there you go yeah and so two things that brings up one is like how do you convince these people when there's that much brainwashing of, you know, man, the stuff that you've bought is like literally suicide on the installment plan.
Because if you go along with a pharmaceutical thing and you listen to everything they say and we're seeing how that's turned out.
And your research indicates, I think, because you're not just COVID research.
You've actually done research on other vaccines.
Vaccines, polio vaccine, had an SD40 in it.
Talk about polio vaccine, because that is an interesting topic.
A lot of people think polio, you know, you always bring up the polio vaccine.
How great it was.
Polio vaccine was gold standard.
It's what everybody points back to and says, oh, we cured polio.
Apparently polio was already on the downward slope.
If you look back at the history, there was competition between Salkin's, Saban, who were making competing vaccines.
It was like a race to claim credit for the cure of polio.
Apparently, I can't prove this, but a lot of people say that polio was actually caused by overuse of DDT to kill mosquitoes.
And I mean, there's videos of people just being sprayed with that stuff.
And even like it was a FDR that they said he was crippledling came after he swam in industrial waters, apparently.
I don't have a direct reference for that, but check it out.
So anyway, in the late 50s, early 60s, there was a researcher named Bernice Eddie, and she was quality control testing the polio vaccines on her own.
I think that was how it worked.
And she discovered that when she injected hamsters and mice with the polio vaccines that were being manufactured, it caused tumors.
And she uncovered this SB4.
This SV-40, which is a simion virus 40, that came from the kidney cells of green monkeys that were used to create the vaccine.
This SV-40 causes tumors.
This is an oncogenetic virus.
And what that does is it, SV-40, like there are genes in your body that help regulate your DNA and prevent it from being manipulated.
P53 is one of these genes.
It's called the guardian of the genome.
And SV40.
turns it off.
So what you have is now immunization.
Yeah, well, you have a predisposition towards developing tumors that your body can no longer regulate.
And SV forty helps make that happen.
The FDA claims that they investigated it and found no, no, no, it doesn't cause any tumors in any way.
They've self-investigated themselves.
Of course, yes.
And when they self-investigated, they discovered there's no, there's absolutely no evidence.
Oncology as an industry has exploded since then.
But there's no evidence.
Don't ask your oncologist about SV forty.
You'll get a blank stare and maybe you get fired by your doctor, you asked.
So SV40 was discovered in these polio vaccines and Bernice brought it up to the heads of NIH and they told her to basically shut up.
So she went public with this information and then she was an original OG whistleblower, right?
And because of her exposing this, they put her in FDA or NIH Siberia.
What does that mean?
That just means they took away her access to materialism.
Wow.
But one of the things that came out of her work was regulations were enacted to make sure that no manufactured vaccine can have SV40 in it.
They had to screen for it.
The lawyers at the NIH said, hey, according to the letter of this regulation, this only applies to vaccines manufactured in the future.
We've got 98 million doses in warehouses of this polio vaccine.
It doesn't count then.
ship them.
So these vaccines went worldwide.
And you had soft tissue cancers over time exploding.
And, you know, Harvey Reich is a Yale researcher.
He does a lot of cancer research.
And I told him about this and he goes,'cause here's the thing.
After this happened in 1963, there's a book called Dr. Mary's Monkey that discusses how this SV-40 virus was being gained of function into a weapon to kill Castro.
Wow.
And one of the researchers was named Mary Sherman and she was found burned in half, bone burned, which can only be done by a much higher temperature thing than an apartment fire.
But they said she had died in an apartment fire.
Her body was half burned off.
There was a particle fusion, I'm sorry, particle beam reactor in New Orleans that was being used to irradiate animals to create mutations through tumors.
The tumors would be masticated, irradiated in new animals, and the mutations would continue up.
That's how they were doing gain of function.
One of the associates of Mary Sherman was a girl named Judith Baker.
And Judith was this new science kid that came out of Florida.
She was a genius.
CIA insight.
NCI Natural Cancer Institute out in Oschner.
They brought her into New Orleans in the summer and spring of 1963 to help Dr. Sherman do this gain of function work in an apartment.
Because it was a kind of clandestine operation to build this vaccine weapon to kill Castro.
To kill him in thirty days.
By the end of their research, Mary Sherman called Judith one day and said, We have to start wearing masks and better stuff because animals in other cages that haven't been injected with our gain of function thing are now getting tumors, which means it was airborne.
Then Mary Sherman gets burned alive by what we believe was an accident in the lab.
Or maybe the particle fusion or particle beam burned her by accident and that they dumped her body in the apartment.
This is all in Dr. Mary's Monkey.
It's a book.
Anyway, so I interviewed Judith Baker.
She's eighty, eighty one years old now, I think, and she has a wealth of information.
But one of the interesting things about her story, and I actually kind of hate it because it distracts from the gain of function research in New Orleans by the National Cancer Institute.
Judith was assigned a handler in the spring of 1963.
I didn't tell you this yet, but the handler was a Marine who was in the, I think he was a Marine, who was friendly to the CIA and the mom in New Orleans.
And his name was Lee Harvey Oswald.
No, dude.
He was helping her as an assistant, but also protecting her.
So then they started having an affair.
and When she and Lee refused to take the next step in the research, which was to inject prisoners in New Orleans or in Louisiana.
I don't care.
With this weapon to see if it would kill them.
They refused.
They were like, we can't murder these people.
And so, Oshner, Alton Oshner, who's a huge name and there's Oshner Clinics right now in Louisiana.
He fired them both and Lee was sent to Dallas that summer, where he became part of history.
The Sake Assassin.
And then, right.
Very ass, I could relate.
We're back to this conversation.
You get it.
So, you got lucky, you know?
Like, you really did.
Like, thank you god nothing happened to Trump then because if anything had happened to him that day you would have been implicated and the system would have railroaded you even harder oh they already tried they already tried oh he already tried him um so anyway that was the story of uh how sv40 was turned into a weapon and that's a really fascinating book dr mary's monkey um worn by i think edward aslam is his name and uh Judith Baker has a book called Lee Harvey
and me.
And it sort of chronicles her history with him and what they were working on.
So he was a CIA handler that basically went in there to help her out with this.
Well, she was this very impressionable kind of naive girl.
She was picked by the CIA because, first of all, she was an established scientist.
Because to bring someone from academia to clandestine research is probably a bit difficult.
But she had demonstrated an affinity for taking germ-free mice.
And she was able to inject mice with SV40 cream.
create tumors and then she showed that you can extract a tumor and inject it in another animal and create more tumors which was and to indicate And it indicates that some cancers are contagious.
I ain't never heard that, have you?
Never heard that.
No one's ever told you that cancer might be contagious.
Wow.
Well, SV40 is also sexually transmissible.
Wow.
And if you look into SV40 and what it works in tandem with to create cancer even faster, that's what it works with.
I don't know if works is the best term, but...
Wow.
Like 80% more.
It's on Wikipedia.
So it's the, it's, I'm getting shades of Batman.
you said the batman quote earlier i'm talking about 1989 batman where it's it's this kind of like if you it's like the two ingredients that destroy your life kind of thing kill you basically you can you need both of them to true we want to trigger you work in a building filled with asbestos you might you might be all right you're probably all right yeah you get this sv40 start now you get mesothelioma yeah yeah uh and the medical industry never talks about the mesothelioma sv40
connection um and and i even contacted a researcher that proved that there was a connection and she saw some of my work and refused to talk to me said i'm not allowed to uh even quote her unless it's whatever she has said was already public which by the way i don't think she understands how that works but whatever i wasn't i wasn't here to expose her i was here to get information and she didn't want to provide it she said she still believes in vaccines and this is this is what you're
dealing with vaccinology is is not science in his faith Yeah, and it's like I've interviewed Brian Hooker, who's RFK Jr.'s writing partner.
He wrote a book called Vaccine Unvax.
He's a 30-something-year PhD expert in vaccine injuries.
He said there's literally never been a vaccine in the history of humankind, which has net positive versus net negative when consider the bigger picture.
Yes, some people might think they're getting better, whatever, but the damages, which obviously they, that's not the, that's not the research they want to do.
That's not the stuff they want to expose, but it always far exceeds, according to RFK and, you know, Briar Hooker.
I mean, you know, I fell for it.
I. thought they were good.
I got my kids vaccinated.
We got back.
You talked about the birth vaccines and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
We did the whole thing.
And then when 2020 happened, it was so obvious to me how much we had.
the best interpretation was that we had botched the COVID.
Like the whole COVID treatment option, the hospital screwed up, the federal agencies all screwed up.
To say it was a mistake is the nicest possible way you could approach it.
Incompetent mistakes.
But there seems to be a malicious factor.
And that's true.
I think there's some people out there were maybe doing things to reduce the human population.
Even back then?
I mean, well, even, you know, maybe in the 60s.
Eugenics is not new.
You know, the Sanger Institute, all those people.
When you go back to the history of abortion, you know, it's a whole nother.
There's a whole nother layer of dark history there.
There's a great documentary called called um the 1916 project by Seth Kruber.
I don't know if you can see it right now.
I think they might be retooling it a little bit, but very, very interesting history of the Sanger Institute.
I think Elizabeth Sanger and how they created what came out to be Planned Parenthood, but how also like the Nazis were impressed with what they were doing.
Like, this is Planned Parenthood, I mean, the Planned Parenthood is a racist organization that wants and the reason the Nazis love Planned Parenthood is because the undesirable races just abort all their babies.
So they're less undesirable races from the Nazi point of view, which is crazy because we claim that the Nazis were our enemies, immoral and all that.
But like that's being replicated over here, you know?
Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, there's medicine has a very, very skeleton, has a very large skeleton cluster.
Yeah, yeah.
I've heard stories like, I mean, I've heard like, uh, satanic agendas and stuff.
I've heard all sorts of things where these medical meetings, like, you know, and I don't know if this is true because we hear all kinds of things, but there's literally a chair for, uh, what they call Lucifer.
And you and I were discussing how Lucifer's not really in the Bible, but that would apparently there's stuff like that.
I don't know if it's true.
I've never been inside those rooms with the big, like, top level meetings and stuff, but I've heard from multiple sources that there's always a chair for, uh, that's demonic personality but you know we'll find that i don't know i guess we might have to go undercover pretend we're a expert doctors to find out that one but you know you could you could imagine him with a robe and all that you know it's like he looks like a doctor actually this is like we're gonna start project therapy as we're time for your prostate exam cough sorry
we don't have any lubricants You're just gonna have to get it dry.
Yeah.
Well, dude, this is a fascinating interview.
This is a fascinating interview, John.
I think we're gonna need to do a part two of this too because there's a lot we gotta talk about.
because I think my visit here has been to make friends with you because there's not that many people that can hang with these conversations.
Oh, totally.
And have a history, you know, of production.
So, yeah.
I know when we were talking last night, even listening to some of the stories you haven't published, man, I keep seeing short docs, long docs.
I mean, the amount of research you've done is so phenomenal.
And some of the stuff you've uncovered, like this polio thing.
Yeah.
And we are going to get to the full story of that.
I don't want to do it on this interview, but the full story of that polio is such a polio vaccine is such a powerful story.
Your motivation for doing it, you developing content to tell that greater story.
Very unique person, very unique journalist.
And, you know, I mean, there's only a handful of that in our country right now, you know?
By the way, if you want to see the movie, you can go to epidemicofraud.com or you can go to brokentruth.tv.
Awesome, awesome.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, viewers.
We're going to have another fall.
We're going to do a lot of stuff with John coming.
Looking forward here, multiple episodes and hopefully collaborations.
Thank you for joining us for this episode.
Make sure you check out America.happens.com for all of our future content and I will see y'all on the next episode of Blood Money.
Thank you.
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