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April 15, 2024 - Blood Money

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From Green Beret to Fighting to Save this Country with John Frankman

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	It was great.
	I'm glad you're here.
	Today we have a very special guest, John Frankman.
	How are you doing, sir? Good.
	How are you doing, Ben? Good, good.
	So, what's really fascinating about you, as we were talking about right before this episode, is your Special Forces Green Beret.
	I mean, you're a unique breed.
	You're a special breed.
	You're, you know, somebody of your skill set is very important within our military services.
	But you decided, after eight years, I think, of being in the service...
	You were not going to take the COVID backs, and you basically left.
	Tell us a little bit about that.
	Yeah, absolutely. So thanks so much for having me on.
	And so basically, I was a Special Forces Green Beret, and that took a couple years of training.
	So I finished my training in June of 2020, moved to 7th Special Forces Group, and I took a team in September of 2020.
	And as we all know and remember, all the COVID madness was happening.
	I ended up leaving the military, not because I was kicked out.
	I ended up making it through the whole vaccine mandate, had my release exemption in, but it was due to all of the opportunities that I lost.
	So more or less, the story goes that early in 2021, we knew the shot was available.
	And I, as a team leader, was talking to my team about it.
	And we were all concerned about How safe the shot was.
	We saw that it was emergency use authorization, and being specialized service members, soldiers, we kind of knew what that entailed, which meant that there was no liability on the side of the drug companies.
	So we were worried that one, the shot was dangerous and new, two, not sure if we needed it, and I'm a practicing Catholic.
	And I was concerned about the aborted fetal cell use.
	So at that point in time, I knew I wasn't going to take it based on the morality of the of the shot.
	And it quickly became clear that it was just the number one priority of the military period, that SecDef, Lloyd Austin, even before the mandate was available, was going to do everything he could to get every individual vaccinated, jabbed as possible.
	Question there, question.
	So your decision not to take the jab was really based on aborted cells, aborted fetuses, not that you were necessarily worried of the side effects, other repercussions?
	So it was everything.
	At first, what made me question it was the aborted fetal cells, and that's something I was aware of early on.
	But as the efficacy came out that the shots don't actually work, as we see more and more people get injured, I think the better question than, why didn't you get the shot?
	The better question is, why should I get the shot?
	It makes absolutely no sense.
	So like I said, yeah, at first I was clued in based on the aborted fetal cells and thought of it as remote material cooperation.
	So I had spent time in the Catholic seminary studying to become a priest.
	And what remote material cooperation means is that you really shouldn't do it, but if there's an emergency, you probably could.
	And I told my team as their team leader that I would neither punish or reward them based on whether they got the shot.
	My team sergeant, he started to get harassed a lot by the company sergeant major, would be in there a couple times a week just getting yelled at.
	I had one of those sounding sessions as well, where I was told I was screwing up my career, but in more colorful language, should look at work outside of the military, that if my team, not getting the shot, lost us missions, that they would be kicked out of the company, put into unwanted assignments, and that that wasn't a threat, that was a promise.
	So just telling my service members that they're not going to get punished if they get the shot.
	10 of 12 of us did not get it until the mandate came out in August.
	So other than just kind of the pressure...
	Hang on.
	So 10 out of 12 were refusing to get it.
	And then once a mandate came out, 10 took it.
	They all took it. So what happened was once the mandate came out, everybody but myself got it.
	Okay. So it was just a lot of pressure on us.
	And to even make it that far was pretty unheard of.
	I think we were probably the least vaccinated team in all of the Special Forces Regiments.
	And because of that, we even had a mission taken from us.
	So we were planning for months to go to a Central American country.
	I'd gone down there for a week to do pre-mission planning, talk to the partner force, figure out what the training was going to look like.
	But It was all the policies that happened before the mandate came out, where it was legal or otherwise, that people were pressured.
	So First Special Forces Command made it a requirement to deploy that you needed to be jabbed.
	So my team, then being 10 of 12 not jabbed, I got a call from my company commander and he asked, John, I know your team doesn't want to get the shot, but what's it going to be?
	Are you guys going to get this or are we going to take the mission away?
	And I said, well, you're going to have to take the mission away.
	I only have one guy who's willing to take the shot.
	And I asked about natural immunity and they said they weren't willing to accept that risk.
	And that really frustrated me because I was on a military freefall team.
	We were at that time in Arizona jumping out of planes at nighttime with oxygen and equipment from 14,000 feet.
	So just the risk mitigation just was crazy.
	So from that, we got put into some undesirable training scenarios, exercises.
	We were sent to Louisiana.
	And so August of 2021 comes out.
	That's when the mandate actually comes through.
	And we didn't need to be fully vaccinated until November, but they were so intent and adamant on getting everyone to jab that September of 2021, we're in the middle of the woods in Louisiana, like 3,000, 5,000 person exercise going on where you're there for two weeks, like just training. And as a Special Forces Green Beret, we're pretending to operate behind enemy lines, so in the thick of it.
	But during a 12 hour break, My unit, the military found it so important to get us jabbed that they sent a major out to counsel us, like in the middle of the woods.
	And I just had to call my company commander and say, sir, why are we getting counseled in the middle of the woods?
	How are you expecting guys to make this career life decision without the proper medical, religious or legal resources?
	How am I supposed to show them that training and fighting to win wars is more important than administrative bullshit when this is happening?
	And we're not going to get any kind of training value out of this.
	And the commander said, hey, we're in the military.
	We're supposed to follow orders.
	And I really just wanted to say, no, we're supposed to support and defend the Constitution.
	At that point, I was as unhinged as I am now about the whole issue.
	But fortunately, we were able to push the counselings later on.
	And what that looked like was everybody staying late on a Tuesday once we got back from this month-long trip.
	Every single person telling the commander that this order is not valid because we saw that Comirnaty received the FDA approval.
	That was the only FDA-alleged drug that was FDA-approved.
	While Pfizer is still under emergency use authorization.
	The SecDef's memo said that you are now being ordered to take an FDA-approved drug.
	Now, in the absence of the FDA-approved drug, that order was completely illegal.
	And every single one of my service members pointed that out to the company commander, yet nothing was done with that.
	The next day, because 10 of 12 of us weren't jabbed, we had to talk to the group doctors and explain to them our medical hesitancy.
	And they actually went against their own medical regulations.
	It's supposed to be in all of the military branches that if you can show you've had prior infection, if you already have immunity from something, that you can get a medical waiver.
	And all of us would have pulled from that.
	Many of us went to LabCorp to get our Blood tested to look for antibodies and a bunch of us had it, but the doctors were just a bunch of yes men just saying, oh, it's medically interchangeable.
	The study is about the danger.
	That's just a lie. We even quoted whistleblower doctors like Dr.
	Teresa Long, just many others.
	And they're just saying, oh, you know, that person's weird or their studies are off.
	So it was just a lot of gaslighting going on and eventually just based on the pressure, because the next day, whoever was not jabbed at that point had to see the battalion commander.
	Battalion sergeant major, the chaplain, the lawyer was there, a medic to give the shot was there.
	And if you didn't get the shot, you were going to get a general officer memorandum of reprimand.
	And that's basically what happened is that my service members, the soldiers, they all decided to get the shot based on those consequences.
	I put my religious exemption in and for over a year it was never answered.
	And during that time, I'd applied and was accepted to a follow on assignment to get a philosophy degree and then teach philosophy and kind of ironically ethics at the US Military Academy at West Point.
	Because I was not, while the exemption was pending, able to move, able to travel overseas, and my team time was cut short, I couldn't deploy.
	I just lost out on enough career opportunities that even though the mandate was dropped, I decided to leave the military.
	So it's just a major readiness issue.
	Wow, wow. All right, so got a couple of questions here.
	Has anyone that you know that got jabbed had side effects?
	Yes, there are many who I've known and a lot of people have come up to me and told me privately about issues that they're having, like partial facial paralysis, shingles, other things such as that, reduced immune function.
	I haven't known anyone to specifically, you know, die or, well, I mean, it's questionable because there are heart attacks that group and I can't explain them specifically and we're just not trying to get to the bottom of it.
	Now, as far as your Green Beret, you know, brothers in that group of 12 individuals, any one of them had side effects?
	I have not heard about any side effects from them, thank God.
	Okay. Now, in terms of, you know, what is the repercussions of people like you for people, you know, for the viewers that don't understand, for people like you to leave the military because you're not getting jabbed?
	I mean, what does that mean in the bigger scheme of things?
	Yeah, I mean, in the bigger scheme of things, this was a huge readiness, terrible decision based on readiness.
	So I've received two years of training.
	The Special Forces Qualification course is a couple years long.
	I've received training in military free fall, in language training, fluent in Spanish, just a year of training in the qualification course, so just millions of dollars poured into every special forces soldier.
	And you can't just go straight there.
	I had to be an infantry officer beforehand.
	So you have me, eight years active duty service, willing to work for a whole career, but I'm choosing to leave.
	So the readiness issue, it destroyed readiness based on, one, people getting kicked out for outright refusing, which is about 8,000 to 10,000 individuals.
	Two, you have people such as myself that are disillusioned that are leaving because the policy was made to drive us out.
	So you have a number of us who made it past the mandate but are choosing to leave or SF guys that are choosing to retire early because of how pissed off they are.
	You have the number of medical emergencies Could be, I don't know, tens of thousands just given the level of myocarditis and those side effects.
	That's something that we're not going to know while they continue to try to hide all that medical data.
	And the entirety of the forest had moral injury done to them.
	Like our trust in leadership is just reduced based on them pushing this thing so hard for two years.
	It was the most important issue ever.
	And now all of a sudden they don't care.
	They drop the mandate and they want to pretend that everything's okay.
	So it's a huge readiness issue.
	Wow, wow. So now in terms of, you know, people we've spoken to, especially, you know, some of the interviews that we've done recently are convinced that, you know, there's essentially our government is too fractured right now.
	There's people within the military, there's white hats out of the military.
	It's getting to a point where this entire thing is, you know, We've heard the word like war.
	We're going into war. We're going to civil war.
	We're going into some kind of conflict.
	I mean, what's your opinion about that topic?
	Yeah, I don't know if we're going to civil war.
	I think the populace is very fractured right now.
	And I think that there's a lot of kind of powers that be that are very much frustrating, kind of just Americans, people who really love our country and hold to its values.
	And I don't know exactly what a tipping point will be.
	I don't see any kind of civil war coming up anytime soon.
	However, I hope that with all of these infractions on our just constitutional rights, our God-given rights, that people get fired up so they get more politically involved and hopefully we can steer this ship the right way.
	Okay, so you're not in the mindset that all these things that are happening, you know, in terms of the lead up to the 24 election, the persecution of, you know, Donald Trump, that eventually that is going to lead to some kind of conflict?
	So... I think that, yes, there's a lot of political targeting that's going on on the left side, on these government institutions, and that's going to continue to infract on people's rights.
	Now, the response, I don't think the response is necessarily going to be A civil war.
	But I think that as we continue to let this go on, as we see the FBI, the DOJ, these different three-letter organizations targeting individuals, that it's going to take away our space to operate freely.
	That will hopefully lead to some more political action and people waking up and realizing what goes on.
	But I don't really see that Being really a civil war.
	What are your biggest concerns right now?
	What are the topics that most concern you?
	Things that you think people need to be very cognizant about?
	Well, I think that just with regards to, and I'm just trying to focus on, you know, where's kind of my point of view?
	And with regards to the military, I think people just don't understand or we haven't learned from the last three years.
	We didn't learn, like most people and most congressmen, they wouldn't say that this mandate was illegal.
	That's The shot is unsafe, that the shot is immoral.
	So I'm concerned that, especially now, a lot of these lawsuits that have been filed against Lloyd Austin, against the military for enforcing this mandate, And the legality, just based on the FDA EUA bait and switch, based on ignoring the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and all of our First Amendment God-given rights, that with these lawsuits getting thrown out, there's going to be no precedent whatsoever.
	And the military is going to go on ahead and continue to reinstitute more policies.
	That because we have such a short attention span and because we didn't take time to pause And to learn from our mistakes that we're going to continue to lose more and more space based on continuing to expand federal governments.
	And that's just going to continue to drive out our voice.
	And I mean, are you hopeful about what the future of this country holds?
	Are we ever going to return to our constitutional values?
	And the third part of that question, which is something we keep hearing about, is secession.
	So we've talked to quite a number of individuals in terms of other states seceding because they no longer feel as though they could be in cahoots with a federal government that ignores the Constitution, that they're no longer living up to the contractual Right.
	Yeah. And I mean, well, first and foremost, my hope is in God.
	Hope is in Jesus Christ.
	And the great thing about being a Christian is that even if the world just goes to hell in a handbasket, you have that ability to kind of work with what's within your span of control.
	I'm definitely hopeful that people will rise up and that with these hard times will create strong men to help right the wrong.
	So I'll always try to fight for that.
	And I think that we're called more to fidelity than we are to necessarily success.
	And I have a lot more hope kind of at local levels.
	We see people going to more conservative states who are getting more involved in the local governments, certain conservative states that are taking stronger actions on important issues.
	And as far as secession, yeah, that's a tricky one.
	We want to try to preserve the I'm a big believer in subsidiarity, and subsidiarity is the belief that you take care of the problems at the lowest level possible.
	Mm-hmm.
	So if it's not something that you can't do at the state level or the local...
	I mean, you just need to do it at those levels because I'm more concerned about what happens in my house than you are.
	And I know the problems better about my house than you do.
	And same with that town, that city.
	So really, I think the military is basically one of the only things the federal government should really be concerned about.
	Everything else that can be done at a state level.
	So I'm hoping that we can kind of shrink that government.
	But if it's... Yeah, if it's not useful for states, if their greater good is better served by separating, then that's an option that they should consider.
	And I'm a big Jordan Peterson fan, and I remember part of one of his books, he talks about how even in games, the opposition, the weaker player, has to win a certain amount of times.
	It's about playing that game.
	And if it's to a point where it's just not fun for some of the parties involved, they're just going to stop playing the game if there's nothing to benefit from those individuals.
	So... Yeah, I think that needs to be an option on the table, and that's better than living in a federal government underneath that is completely crushing, suffocating every single right you have, even to pursue just happiness or freedom to worship God.
	What are the things that you are working on right now?
	I mean, what is your daily agenda's encompass?
	Yes. Right now, I believe the position I've been put in is very much a God thing.
	I left the military on July 1st.
	I've been trying to get an op-ed piece published.
	I wrote an article that got published in the Floridian.
	Right after getting out, I was able to go on an eight-day silent retreat, an Ignatian retreat.
	I found it very much providential that it was on July 31st, the feast of St.
	Ignatius of Loyola, that I was able to get that article published with the help of Matt Gates' office.
	And since then I've been able to go on a number of different shows to try to speak to the issues of the military vaccine mandate.
	So right now I'm trying to put all of my effort into trying to spread the word about the military vaccine mandate, that it was illegal, that it was immoral, that it's medically unsafe, and it absolutely destroyed readiness.
	The hopes of doing that is to sway public opinion, to raise awareness on this issue, so that we can get members of Congress to care about it.
	Because unfortunately, if the public doesn't care about it, they don't care about it.
	Get them to care about it enough that we have hearings.
	So hearings in the House Armed Services Committee and the COVID Select Committee and the website of federal government so that we can have hearings, we can have investigations, we can get accountability from our leaders.
	And that's just one line of effort that needs to be happening on the military side.
	We need to be doing this within the Federal Drug Administration side, too.
	The Food and Drug Administration side and all these other federal entities that infringed on our rights in the last three years.
	So that needs to be the main thing that happens.
	And hopefully we can get some amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act.
	Because no precedent was set when they rescinded the mandate back in December.
	All that was was saying that this order, this is a piece of paper, we're just going to tear that up, pretend nothing else happened, but you can go on ahead and do it again.
	So yeah, just daily just trying to do that.
	Do you think there's, in terms of our judicial system, because you're concerned about all these precedents and non-precedents, right?
	Is our judicial system at this point way too corrupted to even be dealing with?
	Well, I think that we're seeing some judicial systems that are just completely weaponized insofar as certain charges are being brought against Trump, but not against Biden for doing the same exact thing.
	It doesn't matter what the odds are, you need to fight.
	I think that the Supreme Court still have some hope in that.
	And I mean, the bigger hope is in God, who's our aid.
	And I very much feel that this, for me, is a mission from God to try to do the right thing with regards to this.
	So I'm not hopeless that with the judicial system it's going to be totally curtailed.
	But you're right. I mean, with regards to the military, we're trying to hold them to do something legal Or make more legal precedent when they didn't follow the law the first time.
	So it seems kind of Why are you wasting your time?
	That's the inherent issue that we keep facing when we talk about these topics on our podcast.
	In a perfectly functioning system where you have actual checks and balances, the correction of all these calamities might be possible.
	But you really have two branches of government that are beholden to the bar, more or less.
	The judicial branch is the bar.
	And then you have our legislature that's 75% plus bar agents, aka attorneys, aka esquires.
	So, I mean, that seems like there's not much checks and balances there for government to function properly.
	Right. And I think that just gets into the larger issue of...
	Of getting a society that has more ownership on their own personal lives, on their communities, and just really change the culture.
	Because if we had a solid culture, if everyone was a very moral, virtuous citizen, critical thinking, we would have never gotten to this point, whether it was law or not.
	Insofar as trying to fight politically, you hope that it creates true conversion within the individual, that they're able to open their eyes, that they're able to have kind of knowledge of the truth and virtuous examples to follow themselves.
	But you just try to fight it on all these different fronts with the hopes that it makes a difference.
	Yeah, yeah. I mean, in terms of the work that you're currently doing, are you finding that people that might have not necessarily been supportive of your side in terms of the danger of these vaccines and their unnecessary nature are now turning the corner and converting and realizing that this was, you know, what we were being told wasn't necessarily.
	Right. I mean, as far as the most recent work, I'm getting some feedback, positive feedback from individuals who were already within the same kind of point of view.
	But just through my example, and this is where we need these examples in your lives, and I'm a great sinner.
	This is a questionable thing, and there's many things that I do that I know are wrong that I shouldn't do.
	But through this example that I'm trying to set, there have been a number of different officers and individuals at work who are very proud of the stance that I took.
	And they wish that they had done the same thing.
	And they're convinced that the next time that something like this happens, they're not going to do.
	So I think that our voices need to be heard as much as possible in order to kind of sway people to have that sort of moral strength to do the right thing in the future.
	So yeah, more or less just from example, I think that's what's kind of having an effect on some other individuals.
	Awesome, awesome. John, is there anything we didn't touch upon in this episode that you'd like to talk about or mention?
	Yeah, I would say that individuals, if they want to learn more about this, they can check out Commander Rob Green's book, Defending the Constitution Behind Enemy Lines.
	So he's an active duty Navy officer who was fighting the mandate, did a great job in writing that book to try to raise awareness on the issue so that we can better fight it.
	But I would just encourage everyone to, whatever you're doing, wherever you're at, try to do more.
	If you want to protect, defend this country, it starts with you.
	It starts with you as an individual and just getting into that church more often and praying, getting involved in your local community, helping your family out.
	So just to encourage other people to do that in order to help sustain, protect this nation for the future.
	Yeah, yeah. And I mean, one of the topics we didn't really touch upon is God and, you know, morality.
	I mean, you're talking about how people have to be much more morally upright and protective of our constitution.
	I mean, how much does not having God, you know, in our schools have an effect on that?
	Not having God is insane.
	People thought that getting rid of God would make us more scientific and rational, but we see that not having God has made us absolutely completely insane of obvious truths that most people would be able to grasp without God in the past.
	Things such as a man can be a woman or a woman can be a man, that two men can get married or women married or just other things that you can just kill a child.
	In the womb or even up to the point of birth.
	So you absolutely need God because He gives us the truth.
	He gives us the strength in order to try to follow Him and be virtuous people.
	So, yeah, we need to get back on our knees.
	We need to be fast and we need to be praying and asking for God's help and we need to be atoning for our sins on a daily basis.
	Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much, John, man.
	We really appreciate the work that you're doing and, you know, having sacrificed your military career really to stand up against these mandates.
	And it's clearly the right decision there because we've heard so many horror stories on this Blood Money podcast with people dying, with people having side effects.
	A lot of doctors, you know, are saying that this basically reprograms your mind to create spike proteins, all which ultimately will have negative effects on your health and wellness, you know, and cutting and shaving off.
	You know, at worst, you know, having a fatality happen soon after getting the vaccine.
	At best, shaving off years off your life.
	So it just does not seem like a wise choice for people to have taken this vaccine, nor for the military to have pushed that, you know?
	But thank you for standing up against the mandates.
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