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March 22, 2024 - Blood Money
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Whistleblower Exclusive! - How China is allowed to Destroy U.S. Citizens using U.S. Courts
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Alright, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
Today, we have a very special guest.
We're not going to give this gentleman his name.
This is going to be held in complete secrecy because this individual is going to expose how the Chinese are using lawfare to essentially infiltrate our system.
them how this is part and one of the key components of their plans to harm and or destroy our country. So sir, first could you give us any information you're comfortable giving about yourself and setting up the information you're about to expose?
Sure, well I'm a lawyer here in the United States and as you might appreciate when you come across certain matters, certain cases, certain people, things really start to trouble you.
And it sits very very, certain things sit very uncomfortably with me. And this really started when one started looking at a series of cases, not that I'm directly involved with them at all, But, as you know, we all go down rabbit holes and we all start looking and seeing.
And I wondered as to what extent the certain arms What struck me was this case of Northeast Securities.
And Northeast Securities was going out of its way to try and use the American courts to, and certainly the courts in California, to try and enforce judgments that they have against mixed either Chinese or Chinese-American individuals in the United States.
And it's concerning, sometimes concerning assets that are allegedly there in China against people that at a certain point they had Chinese jurisdiction over, but yet they're litigating these cases in the United States. And it didn't sit well with me because why are they doing it over there in China?
So what you're saying is these are cases that should really be fought in China, but for some reason they're being fought in the United States.
Well, yes.
And I think I know the reason is this.
There are certain laws, not necessarily in China, but more in Hong Kong, that would preclude them taking those cases forward in Hong Kong, but yet they can do so in the United States using United States laws, United States jurisdiction, especially when it comes to what they call
the Uniform Forgement Transfers Act. And then they can then take a judgment from the United States potentially and go back to China with it and then rehabilitate it there.
Okay, so it seems as though that is a technique of, and tell me if I'm incorrect here because I'm a bit of a layman when it comes to these particular matters, it seems as though they're basically trying to use the freedoms we have in the United States that they don't have in China against us.
Well not just, yes, and not just against us, but sometimes against American citizens.
Because there are certain people who are dual citizens, they're both American and Chinese, and they're using them against American citizens as well.
You see, one of the very interesting things is with multi-jurisdictional law, which is this. If I get a judgement in the United States as against a Chinese entity, and I want to go and force that over in the United States, in China, I apologise, it is nearly impossible to do so.
China make it so very difficult to enforce American judgments in the United States.
I have countless of them.
And what they make you do is they make you first have everything translated into Chinese.
And with that you have to go to the Chinese embassy or the Chinese consulate in New York.
And you have to get every page translated into Chinese.
And for that, you have to pay.
And you have to pay the Chinese consulate or the Chinese embassy to do that.
And if you go nearly any day in New York, for example, to the Chinese consulate, you will see there is a line out of the door.
And half of that is lawyers or people representing Americans trying to get their documents certified and translated into Chinese before you ever get it into the Chinese court.
Once you get it into the Chinese port, it gets sent back.
It can take sometimes years, to the point that unless your client has very, very deep pockets, if let's say you're a mom and pop store in the United States and you've got screwed over by a Chinese manufacturer because they've not delivered,
they've failed to deliver, they've taken your money, there is no way, realistically, It's quite remarkable.
The inverse is, if you come to the United States with a Chinese judgment, and it's translated, all you need is the translation, the judgment itself translated into English, an American court takes it, says thank you very much, it looks like a fairly proper Chinese judgment, it gets stamped and enforced against a United States citizen.
There is, there are known as principles of comity, where you have to, under three treatises, recognize the other person's judgment, that's fine, but if you're an American, trying to enforce against China, nearly impossible.
If you're Chinese, looking to enforce against an American, dead easy.
I mean that's almost, you know, I mean that's kind of, there's a little bit of racism there I would say.
In the mentality of, you know, reciprocity, is that what it is?
I'm saying the wrong thing.
You're sure you're saying exactly what I just said, reciprocity?
Reciprocity, oh okay.
No, whereas the Chinese courts and the Chinese system protects the Chinese citizen, the American courts and the American system just lays themselves wide open, legs spread so to speak, and I'm sorry to be crude, and say, come and take us.
Come and take whatever you like over here.
It's just not treated in the same way.
Now, in the ideal world, There's no reciprocity over there.
Now, to make it even worse, there are lawyers Okay, let me just get some clarification here.
You're talking about American lawyers, and we do, I think, have to make a distinction here.
So you're talking about American lawyers fighting on behalf of the Chinese.
Are these Americans of Chinese descent or are we talking about just you know rank-and-file American lawyers that are basically working on behalf of the Chinese No, so it was some of them of the record file, but there are some who are Who are Chinese?
trying to sometimes Chinese or Chinese Americans and They've gone and trained and lectured over there in Chinese universities and A very much part of the Chinese legal establishment, which is a very closed shop and they're now part of law firms that either set up themselves
or the purchase in the United States and and are acting realistically as foreign legal agents of the United Chinese go Wow wow. So, okay, let me just, I need a little bit more clarification here.
So you're a lawyer? Yes.
It sounds like there's a little bit of, and I don't want to use big words, but it sounds like if you're working against the interests of your country on behalf of a foreign entity that actually has radically different political beliefs, radically different views on freedom, that would seem that it's a tad bit treasonous, no?
It's certainly subversive, however you want to call it that.
But, you know, we have rules that if you are acting as what would be a foreign agent, then you should be registering yourself as a foreign agent.
It's certainly nearly every lawyer, when they are sworn in to be a lawyer in nearly any jurisdiction that I know, they have to swear to uphold the constitution of the United States and uphold the constitution of your local states.
Here, one would hope that those lawyers are not acting on behalf of another government as against United States citizens when they have very close ties to that establishment.
It is insidious at its very core.
There have been lawyers that one can pinpoint and say, how did that lawyer, why are they acting nearly exclusively on behalf of state-owned entities, nearly exclusively seeking to enforce judgments against American citizens.
And when it goes back the other way, you know, if you were to go hypothetically to that same lawyer and say, I want to enforce something over in China against a state-owned entity that would never take From somebody looking at this situation from the outside, you're looking at a country which seems to be having so much freedoms that that's being abused.
It seems as though the watchmen and the watchwomen that are supposed to play referee and make sure that...
Things are equal and fair are nowhere in sight.
It would seem as though through our quote-unquote liberalism in terms of our legal practices, things are happening that don't seem quite fair, balanced, and I would dare to say lawful.
I mean, could you confirm, deny, explain, you know, I guess from a lawyer's point of view, the statements that I just made?
Well, from the lawyer's point of view, the problem is we've set up the law to allow for that.
So, for example, we do have reciprocity.
We do have reciprocity with other countries.
There are certain countries we don't have reciprocity with because we recognize that their legal system is unfair.
but in so doing, we don't take into account, especially within the United States, whether or not that country to whom we are giving reciprocity treats our citizens fairly in turn.
It should be a free-flowing system whereby you enforce my judgments and I will enforce your judgments. Here, the problem is that it is a one-way street. Chinese state-owned entities have rights within the United States to enforce their judgments, whereas American
interests, American citizens have absolutely zero rights to enforce their interests in China. Absolutely none. And so money is very much flowing one way and one way only.
You have a debt owed you by a Chinese entity or state-owned entity, you will never get recovery over there, or nearly never get recovery over there.
And judges, when they see a judgment coming over from China here, because of the way that it's been set up, The mom and pop or even the larger company over here in the United States has absolutely no protection from the courts.
Now, sometimes those judgments are concerning assets in China where, as I said, especially in Hong Kong, the law in Hong Kong, so let's say,
I'm going to break it down for you legally, you get a judgment against a Now, in China, in order to prove that was a fraudulent transfer is very, very, very difficult.
And on the whole, the Chinese courts And say, hey, there are these assets over there in China.
We believe it was a fraudulent transfer.
The California courts will say, yes, that was a fraudulent transfer.
Give the person a judgment.
They can then take it back to China and they can enforce it against those assets.
In fact, the Chinese plaintiff has more protection from the American I mean, for people listening out there, they're watching the persecution of Donald Trump.
They're seeing how, you know, for example, the New York judgment based upon these accusations that our former president I guess sexually assaulted somebody 30 years ago, which there's not even a shred of evidence.
80-something million dollar judgment.
Then we have the 400-something million dollar judgment.
You know, from somebody watching that doesn't understand law, it seems as though our practice of law in general within this country has gone a little haywire.
How do you react to those statements as a lawyer?
it's become highly, highly politicized, highly weaponized, and highly charged.
You know, as somebody, it doesn't matter which side of the aisle somebody may sit on, but somebody looks at some of those cases from the external perspective and says, how can it be that millions upon millions of dollars that could be, and sometimes billions, but let's call it tens of millions of dollars,
are being used by prosecutors or attorney generals who are being paid for by the state?
especially in a state like New York, which is broke most of the time, and being weaponized It
would seem as though from the outside that all these hundreds of millions that are being spent on these unjust persecutions, I mean it seems as though there's money to be spent on fixing our legal system and you look at that same kind of method of thinking.
For example, I was just in Richmond, Virginia.
Richmond, Virginia looks like something out of a Mad Max movie.
Right? Potholes.
It's pretty much unlivable.
Crazy people walking down the streets.
Just a complete shithole.
Then we have hundreds of millions being spent on foreign wars.
Billions, sorry. And then I hear that our law institutions are an absolute mess.
Seems like that would be a good place to invest all this money.
How do you react to those statements?
You have to start from home, don't you?
You've got to wonder where people's priorities really lie.
Is it to make the person on the street their lives better?
Let me give you a prime example.
It happened about a year and a half ago, I don't know if you remember, when the gas prices were very, very high.
Yes.
And I stopped at a petrol station, I was filling my car, and I see a lady, a black lady, and she was filling up the car, and she was dripping in, you could see it counting the cents, and she gets to $7.50.
I think, oh, I can't, I can't see this.
I go in there, I put in my credit card into her gas pump and I say, fill up.
And the woman looks, and the woman looks at me.
And tears came to her eyes, tears came to my eyes to be perfectly frank.
In today's day and age, I should not be having to do that for this lady.
And she should not be having to deal with this way.
To look upon the charity of a stranger, for just to be able to fill up her car, to go to work or whatever she's doing.
There are major problems here at home.
Major problems here at home that are not served by many of these prosecutions and many of these legal cases.
One questions the motivations of why they're being brought, of what personal benefit are certain people taking out of that.
In the same regard, why are Chinese companies being given free reign within the United States?
Why are certain lawyers being given free reign within the United States to execute judgments on behalf of Chinese companies?
Where is the motivation for that?
Thank you.
Who's benefiting from it?
Okay, so let's say in the U.S. courts there was a judgment.
I know you've clearly stated how it is very hard to enforce our judgments from the United States in China, right?
Let's say there's a judgment having to do with Europe, the United Kingdom or France within U.K. courts.
How would that be treated differently in terms of how the U.K. would see a U.S. judgment versus how the Chinese would see a U.S. judgment?
Well, the UK judge is very, very easy.
In the UK, you take your US judgment.
Other than libel judgments, we can send that to one side for some things.
But nearly every other judgment you go to the UK, they look at it, it's deemed to be enforceable, it'll be enforced.
Same thing in France, same thing in It's very easy to get everything enforced across those.
I mean, it just sounds like, how would we even allow something like this?
It just sounds bizarre that our entire political establishment knows very well that, you know what, at least the Europeans would respect our judgment.
They treat us on equal footing, right?
But the Chinese aren't doing that.
I mean, that would seem like a code red moment for our politicians in order to put regulations in place to prevent that kind of unequal behavior.
Correct. It may be because of the debt burden, the burgeoning debt burden is so large, that if it were to do that, China would hypothetically close down the pipeline of the spigots as to any monies and might recall certain debt.
It might well be that certain politicians are just not in their interest to have American interest being properly enforced I mean, wait.
It makes no sense. Pretty much had free reign and more or less diplomatic
immunity in Los Angeles.
So even when I saw very specific crimes being committed before my eyes, literally the LAPD would let them go, right?
So I started to inquire why that was and I learned that Saudi Arabia has essentially holds so much US dollar That we have to give them this kind of special treatment because if they sell off all their US dollars And this was 20 something years ago, then it would cause harm to our economy, I mean this seems like and you know, you you tell me what you think about those statements that I just made but my Reading of that situation is that
These people that are getting special treatment within our country because they're holding US dollars is a horrible horrible way to approach things Yes it is. You can't do that.
America is very much a place where the dollar is Everybody can make Why
would be this father? Why would, if you're to do due diligence Wow.
Okay, so let's talk about the debt of the USA. It seems as though this idea of actually bankrupting this nation and having a monetary system that's actually backed by something in this day and age where BRICS is taking off...
Seems like as painful of a decision as that would be to bankrupt this country and change the essence of our monetary system to actually be backed by, whether it's precious metals, land, other resources, is the only decision that we could make at this point.
What is your reaction to that comment?
Well, I'm certainly not an economist, but one does have to question the spending policies of the United States, especially at the moment.
You know, just so you're aware, that nearly any other country doesn't have...
You know when we have the government shutdowns and we talk about the debt ceiling, and are they going to agree with the debt ceiling, etc.?
No other government in the world that I'm aware of actually has this problem, where actually people can just freeze government in its tracks because they can't agree what their budget would be because it's just gone so wildly out of control.
And it really is wildly out of control.
But yet, there's been an inordinate amount of money that's been spent, especially in central Washington, especially over the last few years, on trials and impeachments, etc., etc.
An inordinate amount of money, when the majority of hard-working Americans, all they want is for the government to get on and do its job.
Get on and do its job.
And then we have...
the amount of police monies that have been spent on patrolling rioters on the streets at the moment.
What's gone on in New York over the past six months, especially since October 7th with marauding mobs, is just the way Having studied negotiable instruments,
promissory notes, securities, and if you actually dive into what are these things that are called Federal Reserve notes, what is a bank note, what is a What is a negotiable instrument?
What is a security? It's actually kind of scary diving into that topic because you realize that not only is it like based upon nothing, you know, people use that terminology house of cards and my terminology would be or my explanation of what I've discovered in studying these policies is It's almost like you build a house of cards,
right? And it's so perfectly built, and it's like that kind of 0.1 percentile of perfection that you could actually lay a baby cow on top of it, right?
But if that baby cow decides they're going to move even a smidgen, the house of cards falls.
And that's what our monetary system is, because it's backed by nothing.
It's beyond the Ponzi scheme.
It's literally the creation of money out of nothing, which would seem as though that's a bad way to move forward and a bad way to create something like $35 trillion in debt or whatever we're at right now.
People say it's more like, you know, if you take the digital debt as well, we're talking more in the hundreds of trillions, not actually $35-40 trillion.
I mean, what's your understanding of the topic in terms of how our money is created and what it's backed by?
Thank you.
One of these things you might as well be looking at monopoly figures at the moment.
the amount of trillions that are out there in terms of what is deemed to be debt. I'm not ever sure that that is ever recoverable, ever in the situation where there could be payoff, ever in the situation unless we just beholden to other countries' interests. Because it's not as if we're in debt to our own country. It's not as if we're in debt to Americans. It must be the
case that if we're in debt to other countries, and yet, nobody else pays the United States for the privilege of keeping the world safe, keeping the shipping lanes open, keeping the skies open.
and trying to keep the majority of the world free, and yet there is burgeoning Sorry, that sounds like a hostage situation.
When you said that, I mean, I suddenly had this image of, you know, those classic hostage videos where there's four or five guys with AK-47 standing in front of somebody that's sitting with a blindfold on.
I mean, that seems to be America right now.
Very much so. The party's interests.
Like, tell me something, could you ever see and envisage a situation where America could work towards, despite being the greatest economy on this earth, could you ever see us working towards a position whereby America is minimizing and bringing it down its debt burden?
And if we can't Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is the thing that we've been saying on the America Happens Network because we are very well studied in these topics of negotiable instruments, you know, what we call, you know, quote-unquote money, which is not really money.
Gold and silver is money.
What we've come to learn to call money, which is this currency that is backed by absolutely nothing except for military power, right?
And also, we're in this hostage situation, whether it's the Saudis or the Chinese, anybody that holds great amounts of our...
Quote, unquote, negotiable instruments that could then hold a gun to America's head and say, hey, if you don't do X, Y, and Z, then we're going to sell your negotiable instruments.
All of a sudden, you have a country that is based on certain constitutional principles that is having to compromise those constitutional principles because of what is essentially a Federal Reserve.
That was something that was set up in the hurry to essentially finance World War I. So it's kind of a domino effect of these mistakes after mistake after mistake Bad policies that seem to have led us to this juncture where now we're allowing lawfare within our country, which is a topic that I would love to dive into a little bit more in terms of the tangible things that are happening.
If you could name names of people that are involved in this lawfare, involved in what law firms.
Tell us a little bit about that topic of what the tangible lawfare on a daily basis looks like and and who is involved so one or certainly there's There's one law firm that I have managed to cover in relation to this which is one based out of New York and It's got a name that seems very very vanilla and plain which is
HGW Kramer LLP, but then when you look down the managing partners account called Rongping Wu Thank you.
And Rongping Wu, nearly all of his practice focuses on cross-border litigation and judgment enforcement and asset recovery on behalf of Chinese state-owned entities.
And Chinese high-level litigants.
Now, when you looked, what I looked into is, It's
in, it's in China.
Oh wow. And it's where nearly all of the high level appellate judges and nearly all Of Chinese political and legal
society. Chinese
people who fled China Carry on your oppression here,
because you can come and use the American laws against these Americans, against these people we are ostensibly shielding, and just carry on doing what you were doing previously.
We know what happens to people in China that step out of favor with the people up on high.
And this was one particular individual that I started looking into the cases that he was taking, and certainly what type of cases and against whom he is taking these cases.
And nearly exclusively, oh, and nearly always, he will put in affidavits in those cases attesting to the propriety of the Chinese proceedings that had gone by in the past.
So I'm imagining these lawyers in these law firms, right?
And in a better day in this country, these actual lawyers that are seeing this happen, this infiltration, this lawfare, would in better days be like, wait a minute, these are anti-American things you're doing.
And they would self-police their own law firms.
They would call these people out.
But this sort of thing doesn't happen without the support of the other people in the law firm, right?
And then at the same time you have this media apparatus that's constantly telling us that America is evil and trying to drive us towards socialism, or at least that's what it seems like to my eyes and ears.
How much of an effect this kind of self-loathing that's created by the media gives individuals that are seeing this kind of How much of an effect has that had on people closing their eyes and allowing this sort of lawfare destruction to happen within our country?
Well, it's a huge effect.
And we have to remember, this has been going on not just for 10 years, but 20 years now.
There are, you know, one goes now Is
American imperialism from a critical perspective?
Now one has to ask the question, what in God's name has American imperialism got to do with teaching law in a law school?
It's got nothing to do with contracts, nothing to do with equities, nothing to do with trust.
But there has been what seems to be a distinct pattern over the last 30 years to erode what could Lawfare has started not in the courts, but it started in the law schools.
When you've gone to places like Berkeley, as a prime example, where one has seen law being used as a tool of oppression of certain students who step out of line or who are deemed to have non-Berkeley views.
So like, as a prime example, there are organizations at Berkeley Law School that two years ago voted in that any person who is a Zionist isn't allowed to speak within their organizations, even if they're not speaking on anything to do with Zionism.
If they hold beliefs that are Zionists, they shouldn't be allowed to come and lecture them on certain aspects of law.
That happens in Berkeley, and that has gone not just unchecked, I don't want to inform conservative values, but they're actually really just common sense viewpoints.
That America is a good place to be.
America upholds democracy.
People should have basic rights.
People should be allowed to think and speak in the way that they wish to.
There are no major taboos out there.
But then you have to understand, Maybe what the other people want you to hear.
So when it goes back Is
there anything else, in terms of this particular topic, and I know you named some names in terms of firms and individuals, is there any more information you have to give before we conclude this interview?
Not really. I think this is something that I... And
and the legislature needs to start being live to it.
This brings me to my closing. I want to mention something because I do think this particular topic would be helpful for you to be aware, for the viewers to be aware, and as this episode, which I believe is going to be an incredible episode, I mean, this is information, and I thank you for being willing to come out and speak about this topic that is so crucial for the future of this country.
It would seem as though this lawfare that's happening, the component that seems to be missing in this overall makeup of things is what I call Project Veritas in Congress, right?
Which is one of our agendas to take this kind of information and put it in front of Congressional members right because we were as as the America happens Network We were actually in Congress for about three weeks in the month of February March And what you see there is you see a lot of these mainstream media outlets that are always in the room, right?
And as we know these mainstream media outlets quote-unquote Hollywood is very much with Selling sent, you know selling this propaganda being part of the problem, right?
And so one of the things we thought about is we need essentially what we're calling project Veritas in Congress which is getting these topics in front of congressional members and putting pressure on them via having an Independent media presence that seems very crucial to this I mean, do you think that is part of the solution of having more boots on the ground in Washington, D.C., with cameras in the face of these politicians, bringing these issues forward so we're constantly pressing them on the top?
100%. You see, your role here is remarkably important.
We need to keep people on track in Congress.
We need to keep people focused on what they should be doing, rather than what they should not be doing, which is going on rabid witch hunts against people and trying to create At the moment, on the ground, which are affecting United States citizens and United States interests.
What you're doing by having those cameras in their faces is remarkably important.
It keeps people true. You don't have what they have over in Britain, for example, which are Prime Minister's question times every week.
Without that, what you're doing is of crucial importance.
I really thank you for that, because we had this revelation while in Congress three weeks ago, and that's what came forward.
I mean, I was working with some individuals that are working on the Military Accountability Project, and this idea of Project Veritas in Congress seemed like the thing that was missing.
And for the viewers out there, we have set up a fundraising mechanism where our goal is to get...
Ten correspondents per month flooding Congress.
And from the amounts of monies we've heard spent on other things that literally lead nowhere, millions spent on political campaigns, it would seem as though getting ten correspondents in Congress, which is a drop in the bucket, would result in a lot more action in terms of putting pressure on these individuals.
You know, my two cents is I'm from Hollywood.
I grew up in Hollywood. I was a Hollywood TV producer, a music video director, and what I realized is that Hollywood and Washington DC are very similar in that you have what I call performers performing to an audience, right?
And when your audience is all mainstream media that's going along with the narrative that's destructive to our country, they are performing to that audience.
What happens if you insert...
Ten voices, ten correspondents that are not following that narrative, that are actually asking the hard questions.
All of a sudden, which I saw, I saw one correspondent that was in Congress five days a week.
And I could see how once this correspondent walked into the room, the tone would change.
And all of a sudden, these politicians would get nervous because they didn't have the mainstream media cover.
And so I started thinking, hey, let's put 10 of these people in here.
And that's part of our agenda, you know.
And in closing I just want to mention that because we truly feel as though that is the missing link to actually getting Things moving in the right direction It's keeping people honest. You do a magnificent job And the more that you can do, the better this country will be Wow, wow. That's all we strive to do sir.
Thank you so much for coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
This is a very exciting episode.
Thank you for having the courage to expose this.
It's because of people like you that this information is going to get out there.
And frankly, it's because of people like you that we're going to save this country.
And that must happen because the other option is going into some kind of Chinese communism.
And having had parents that escape that kind of tyranny, that is not a viable option.
Alright guys, for this episode, I wanted to do a little after blood money closing bit.
We heard about how this whistleblower is talking about how our courts are also being invaded by foreign interests, right?
But where is Congress? Where is our congressional members?
This is why at the America Happens Network, we feel that it's important to get what we call Project Veritas in Congress.
That means independent journalists from the America Happens Network flooding the halls of Congress, asking these congressional members the hard questions that they never get asked, right?
You have an audience of mainstream media members that are not asking the hard questions like, hey, why is our US courts being invaded by the Chinese?
Why are the Chinese allowed to do this in our country while we can't do the same in China?
And there's many questions like this.
For example, The J6 individuals that are clearly feds that have yet to be exposed by Congress that show that it was a fedsurrection and not an insurrection, right?
So there's a lot of these hard questions that the mainstream media is not asking, and there is no independent media in the halls of Congress like you see the mainstream media flooding the halls of Congress.
So that is part of our new agenda at the America Happens Network to start what we call Project Veritas in Congress.
So please consider donating to us, links below, links on the screen right here, and help us get our correspondence into Congress asking the hard questions on a daily level so we can hold our politicians accountable and more than anything else put their feet to the fire so they are paying attention to these issues That,
unfortunately, the mainstream media ignores because, as we know, the mainstream media is part of this narrative, essentially to make our country into a socialist country, to steal the rights of Americans, to give foreigners higher privileges than America's own citizens.
And this could not go on.
And the way we battle this is by having our correspondents in Congress, what we're calling Project Veritas in Congress, please support.
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