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Feb. 5, 2024 - Blood Money
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Presidential Candidate Ryan Binkley on Blood Money Episode 206 with Vem Miller
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Today we have a very special guest, a Republican presidential candidate, Mr.
Ryan Binkley.
How are you doing, sir? I'm great.
Welcome from Dallas, Texas.
Great to be with you today, Ben. Yeah, thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
You know, you're obviously running for the office of president.
Let's kind of dive right into it.
I mean, take me through what you've been working on and what inspired you to actually run for office.
Well, thank you very much.
Well, I am a president, the CEO of an investment bank called Generational Group, and we do merger and acquisition services.
We're about 350 employees across the nation and in Canada.
I'm also a pastor. My wife, Emily, and I have been married for 25 years.
We have five kids, and we started a church about 10 years ago.
So we've been doing side-by-side business and ministry.
Really, our entire marriage.
And about eight years ago, Vim, God really put it on my heart to run for office and begin speaking to me about things that are happening in our country, things that were coming that we're not ready for.
And so I've really been speaking about, I think, the two biggest issues that we're facing that clearly to me are not being addressed by any of the leading candidates today, and that is our debt.
The dollar, the frailty of the US dollar, and for the next generation, obviously the inflation that corresponds with that.
And then also the division in our country, which is really paralyzing.
Because unless we address these two things, I think this, we're going to set up my kids, your kids, the next generation up for the weakest economic foundation since the Great Depression.
Because you can have a high stock market, but that can look pretty on the outside.
But the debt is the cancer of our nation and the division at the core of who we are is breaking us.
And so anyway, that's why I'm running to get the heart of our country back, focus on big issues together.
And this is this is what's in my heart right now.
OK, let me ask you, you're mentioning there's a few things I actually want to ask you about.
So you're mentioning things coming that we are not ready for.
Could you be more specific as to what those are?
Yeah, you know, so at the end of the day, you know, right now we're $34 trillion in debt.
We've got a polarized political system where really today it's almost impossible for a president to pass any legislation.
The leaders we have in place today, they're in parties where it's the goal of the opposition party to actually see The other party failed more than it is to see America succeed.
So this has been going on for a long time now.
So if you look at the presidential candidates, President Trump included, what legislation do you think they can actually pass in the next term?
What legislation do you think President Biden can pass today?
Is there any possible solution they could come up legislation-wise?
And the answer is clearly nothing.
So what they want to do is empower themselves through executive orders, try and increase the powers of the presidency, which I think is the reason we became a nation to begin with, because we didn't want a king doing that.
So our country has been pulled apart.
And so as I look at our nation, I'm like, wow, we've got so much room to improve in.
We've got so many big issues that we're facing and we better start hitting some of these head on about what's going to take to get our country back on the right track financially.
And so I'm focused on about four key areas.
We can talk about the budget, how we're going to balance the budget, health care, which is the largest monstrosity of monopolies supported by the federal government in the world.
And then the border crisis, a unique way to fix that.
And then, of course, Education America.
I'll focus on a few things that we share together, hoping to unite our country on some of these big issues so we can get the heart of our country back.
Mr. Binkley, you know, I got to ask, like, how do we get out of the whole debt situation?
Because that seems like $34 trillion debt.
I mean, that seems as though unless you're thinking in extremely innovative ways, there seems like there's no way out of that.
But please inform me.
Well, you know, I think you have to start off with, you know, first of all, telling everyone and being honest with America where we're headed and what is the consequence of doing nothing.
And so where we're headed is basically default on our debt.
And this only is going to happen through really probably We're basically debasing our currency faster than inflation hits wages.
So wage inflation is about half of regular inflation in the last 20 or 30 years.
So it's way behind. This is the reason I think this.
The bottom half of America today is truly struggling.
When I say the bottom half, the bottom half of the income scale.
If you don't own a home, a large second home or an asset, a stock portfolio, You are truly struggling in America.
Even people that do own homes are fighting.
If you own a home, though, likely your home's worth twice as much as it was three or four years ago, so you've got a chance to make it.
But if you don't, the wealth gap is getting bigger and bigger.
So I'd have to be honest with Americans as president and let them know that the bottom half of our country is going to lose any significant ability to bridge To even be in the middle class in the next five or ten years unless we arrest the deficit spending habits that we have.
And then the Republican Party, my goodness, we forgot who we are.
We've been doing the same thing for 30 years.
We have lost this essence of who we are.
We used to be fiscal conservatives.
You know, we used to have this mantra that we were stewards and we have lost our ability to carry this message.
Nobody believes us anymore.
I like many things President Trump did, but honestly, we went eight trillion dollars in debt during his four years.
He is not speaking to this issue, that he's not saying I want to balance the budget.
He's not saying I want to pay back debt.
And if you don't put together a plan to do so, what you're saying is I'm going to default on it.
And we don't default on it by not making payments.
We default on it by printing more money.
And when we print more money, we're going to have spiraling inflation.
So I've got a creative way to balance the budget.
It's going after healthcare, first of all, and some of the non-defense discretionary spending.
But I've got to be honest with America.
We put together a seven-year plan to balance the budget.
It's aggressive, you know, Vim, but at the end of the day, I've never hit a target that I didn't aim at.
We better start aiming at something and our kid's going to pay for it.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I've been studying negotiable instruments, promissory notes, securities, and it seems as though this current system, the way it's actually built, the way this system is actually manufactured, it is a debt-based system, and it's impossible to escape the long-term effects of debt in a debt-based system.
So, systematically, do you feel like something needs to happen in order to address that?
With this current system, there's just, there's no way for it not to be a downward spiral.
Incompetence to that, and you have pretty much a recipe for disaster.
You do. So we have to tell America, you know, listen, we never look up until we have to.
Until we hit rock bottom is when we change, right?
So if I start telling you a couple years beforehand, I mean, if you knew what was going to happen two years before the Great Depression or two or three years before the Great Recession in 07 or 08, would we do anything different?
That's the kind of thing that I feel like is coming when you asked me earlier what's coming.
I don't know exactly what it is, but we're not ready for another COVID. We're not ready for a war.
We're not ready for any other inflection point that causes a strain anymore in our country because the division is so high, the debt is so high.
Spiraling inflation in a minute and likelihood just send us into a depression.
So that's what we're not ready for.
Now, how do we navigate through that?
I'm telling America, listen, the biggest expense we have by far, which is four times as big as the military, federal government money going out, four and a half trillion dollars a year is health care.
It's healthcare, Vim.
You and I could talk an hour about how to reform healthcare.
I've got a whole plan on our website that from insurance companies to the providers themselves to pharmacy benefit managers all the way down to big pharma, it's a system of monopolies that's backed up by the federal government that actually we don't even care if they meet budget or not.
We just start printing money and paying for every expense they decide to throw at us.
If you can imagine, if your business was backstopped by the government, you'd have no incentive to cut a penny, right?
And this is what they're doing.
And healthcare inflation is 40% higher than regular inflation for 20 years, and we're not doing anything about it, and it's bankrupting our nation.
I mean, you were talking about healthcare there.
I'd love to know your position on how COVID-19 was handled.
Golly, you know, it's so hard to know exactly how it was handled.
At the outset, you know, you can sit there and look at it and go, we made a tremendous number of mistakes.
You know, one, we should have never put Anthony Fauci in charge.
You know, we should have never given him the pulpit of the country.
We should never shut the country down.
You know, this was a mistake from the word go.
But, you know, it's unprecedented what happened in our lifetime.
So, you know, you can give a lot of grace and go, listen, you know, nobody knew what was going to happen.
But there was a point in time When we started pushing research that had not been proven for vaccines, that had not been tested, not been truly proven right, we started shoving those down Americans' throats and then quarantining them and making sure, you know, they didn't go to church and go to school and go back to business and doing life again.
We actually hurt our country in so many ways that I think that's the stem of what we're paying for right now.
Our nation has hit a tipping point culturally and financially.
And so when that happens, when you give away trillions of dollars like our nation did and said, by the way, don't worry about paying it back.
This is how we got to the big inflation crisis that we're in.
It's basically just a reset of dollars, very similar to what Argentina did just a few months ago.
It used to be it was 400 pesos to a dollar.
Then one night it's 800 pesos to a dollar.
That's the kind of thing that's happened to us here, but a little bit over time.
So, you know, all I know is it's a big mistake.
We've never done it.
They should have allowed your doctors to prescribe you hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, whatever it is.
We were insane. We lost our mind for not listening to the doctors.
And you know what? It's just a shame that many people were harmed by that.
Many people died from it.
And I'm not saying the vaccines didn't help anybody, but I'm just saying this.
We handled the whole thing holistically wrong.
Okay, I'd like to come back to some questions regarding COVID, but what's your position on the current status of the courts, how they are handling certain persecutions, prosecutions, whatever you call it.
And I give the example of Donald Trump as an example, how he just lost 84 million to what seems like there wasn't a lot of evidence to the allegation she was making.
I mean, what's your reaction as to how the courts have been behaving in the last few years?
Well, they themselves are complete, you know, it's an embarrassment to the integrity of our nation.
One, the leadership of the FBI, two, you know, Jack Smith, two, these courts themselves.
I mean, look at the New York case against President Trump.
I've been in business for 30 years.
Everybody knows that if you bought anything, if you've ever had a loan for anything, banks are in the business of loaning money.
They're also in the business of doing appraisals on property and assets, and they know what they're doing.
And that's the dumbest case I think I've ever seen in the history of my life.
This most recent one Second dumbest.
Wow. 25 years later, you can sue somebody for 80-some-odd million dollars.
And, you know, I mean, I don't want to get into everything that happened and saying that everything happened was correct.
I'm just saying this. This is wrong, you know, at the end of the day.
So all these indictments that happened, I think this is what's made President Trump...
So strong today.
Everybody's looking at him going, wow, the world is coming against you and they're upset.
So I stand with him in that area.
Obviously, I think that he didn't lead perfectly.
He wasn't faultless in every single thing he's ever done.
But he certainly didn't deserve what he's getting.
And this is the challenge we have today.
We've got a system that's set itself to try and pick the candidates and try and take him out.
And I think it's entirely wrong.
Wow, wow. So what would your, I guess, solution be to getting some of these judges in check?
So things like this, these persecutions, these prosecutions, that seem like a really bad way to spend taxpayer dollars when you have people with a trunk full of fentanyl running around and getting off on probation.
I mean, there seems to be something really wrong with the judicial system.
How do we fix that?
You know, I don't know that I know the exact answer to that.
I do think, you know, he can continue to appeal these cases and upwards hopefully in the appellate courts and higher.
You know, you'll have judges that have integrity.
And you'll have judges that are, you know, holistically sound when it comes to law.
That's what we're hoping for. And that's just the system we have today.
And nobody really says that it's just.
And so the only way for true government to change is when leaders rise up and run for office.
When they run to be these judges and when senators and congressmen and women run to be patriots to our country and not just live off the system, then one day they'll vote term limits on themselves.
So they're not doing this when they're 80-something years old.
And this is what it's going to take.
It's going to take a new generation of leaders to rise up and go, listen, I want to help steward our nation.
I'm going to help steward our nation the right way.
And it's going to take a movement of people that want to do that.
I mean, being the host of the Blood Money Show, I mean, we've interviewed a lot of individuals and it seems as though there's an apparatus via lobbies, via PR companies, via law firms in order to ensure that certain kind of candidates get into power.
And these are companies that have the control of the media so they could actually push somebody.
I mean, I would give Nikki Haley, I don't even know how she's in the race still, but like she seems to have this apparatus behind her.
How do you overcome that?
How do you overcome the big dollars that are put into the system to push a certain agenda?
Well, you know, we've been fighting that since day one.
Our message has been really pretty simple.
I'm a business person.
I'm a pastor.
I've been telling people, listen, we better get on track financially.
And you know what we don't have today?
We don't have one person in Congress.
We haven't had a president of the United States sit there and be honest with America about the debt we're having and what it's going to do to the next generation.
I mean, our kids, I could buy a house.
When I was in my late 20s, mid to late 20s, I could save $10,000 and buy a house.
They can't do that today.
There's no way for them to afford a house today.
Some $450,000, $500,000 house when their wages are only twice as much, but houses are four times as much as they were three times.
30 years ago. So there's a problem we're having.
And we've got to stand up and just tell people and be honest about it and ask politicians to start leading well and to actually start being truthful with Americans.
And we need people that understand the issues before they run for office.
I mean, we've got now Jerome Powell.
He doesn't even have a finance background.
He's an attorney. I think when he was asked about what kind of economics courses that really influenced him, he laughed.
He was like, I took two minor ones when I was a freshman.
Meaning, he doesn't even truly understand.
He would not be hired as the CFO of my company, but he's running the nation's biggest asset bank in the world that's helping influence interest rates around the world.
So, you know, we've got challenges in leadership, and the only way to do it is to get people in there that want to lead right.
I mean, how did this idea of hiring imperfect individuals, you know, we call it diversity hires, right?
Oh, you got to hire this person because we got to tick a box, rather than hiring that person because they're great at what they do.
I mean that seems to be the crux of why we have so many issues like you're saying unqualified individuals that are put in positions of power that have these careers as Politicians and they haven't even run a company as an entrepreneur meaning that if you took that Person out of Washington stuck them in a you know to run Pepsi Cola chances are that company's not going to do as well So why do we get those kind of individuals as their choices?
You know, I don't know the media mechanism that you talked about earlier. That's probably a big part of it You know, as we've been shouting all the more, I think a lot of the media didn't want to hear from us.
You know, they're like, you know, listen, this makes too much sense.
Who wants to balance the budget?
Nobody wants to talk about that.
That's like inviting. When I started going to Iowa, sharing with people, hey, guys, this is a big deal.
I mean, nobody wanted to listen to me.
And then about five months later, when they saw inflation creeping up another 10 percent or whatever, it hit a tipping point.
Then they started listening.
But I mean, most people don't want to talk about it because they know it's a big problem.
They don't want to address it. And I think this media thing is a big thing.
We want to hear what we want to hear.
So we listen to news that we're attracted to.
I mean, nobody wants to go to the trainer and get on a diet and eat well, right?
Nobody wants to listen to news that's like, boy, we better do something about this debt.
They just want to listen to corruption and just, you know, what's the...
The anger tweet of the day that gets a million likes or whatever it is.
This is the kind of media moment we're in.
It's all about sound bites and who's the insult captain of the campaign trail that can rile up somebody as opposed to really speaking honest answers with Americans about the problems we're facing.
Yeah, I mean, it seems as though it's like this crisis of getting away from anything intellectual.
Like, it's almost like there was a movie called Idiocracy, I think, and it seems as though on some levels that is becoming a truth that we are living.
You know, I think you're exactly right.
You know, we got to get politics out because you got to remember, you know, we could all fall short to stepping into it when you're just surrounded by it all day long.
Like President Trump, he got elected because he was a populist.
He was a man of the people. He was like, hey, I'm going to get in there and clean this stuff up and I'm going to get in there and fight for you.
But at the end of the day, it kind of hit him hard, I think, so much so quick, beginning with Rush and all this kind of garbage that he went through, that if we're not careful, we can fall into that trap instead of leading the way we know to lead.
And I'm not trying to be critical of him.
I'm just saying this, we can all do that.
Because if we don't talk about the issues that's affecting your family, my family, our kids, Our country is going to fall apart even worse.
I mean, just because we disagree on the border doesn't mean I can say, you know what, I'm going to wait a year and do nothing.
You know what's going to happen in the next year?
100,000 people are going to die of fentanyl.
And I'm not willing to sit there and go, wow, I don't agree with your plan, so I'm not even going to bother looking at it.
And I'm not going to come back with my own.
So let's just let 100,000 people die this next year.
That's not the kind of leader I would be.
And I would challenge every Republican to stand up and go take this kind of stuff head on.
So, you know, right now we have obviously a former President Trump running to lead the Republican Party and all indications are that he is going to win the nomination.
I mean, what do you do if he does win a nomination?
How do you see your future?
What do you think the next steps hold for you?
Well, listen, I 100% support the leader, right?
So whoever that ends up being, you know, if President Trump wanted any of my ideas today, I would give it to him.
I mean, at the end of the day, I'm for America.
I'm not really running against him.
I'm running for this mission that we stop this division.
That we stop this hatred of each other because if we look at each other like they're the biggest enemy, the biggest fool in the world, and then yell at them and demonize them on Friday, and then say, hey, come work with me on legislation on Monday, it just doesn't work that way.
We're going to have to start transcending higher than our party.
I mean, when's the last time we had a president that was beyond the president of our party?
You know, when was the last time we had a president that was the president of the United States of America, regardless of party?
They were like, that's my president.
For me, that's been since Ronald Reagan, you know, just somebody that transcended the party.
So my encouragement to President Trump, if he's going to be the leader, hey, go higher than this.
Let's start reaching out.
Let's do better. If you want to get in a fistball fight, you know, he's your candidate.
But then we better start leading at a higher level or we'll never get anything done.
Debt is going to be there with us forever.
The border is never going to get fixed.
It's not going to get fixed.
I'm telling you, it won't get fixed.
It'll be short term because as soon as he's out, if there's a Democrat in there, they'll tear the wall down.
That's exactly where we're at.
So we better start leading higher.
And that's what I'm fighting for.
I'm fighting for a financial healing and a Spiritual healing for our nation.
It's not like against Trump or anything like that.
I went to both of his, I supported both of his campaigns prior.
I took people to his inauguration.
I would help him today if he wanted my help.
But this is my message.
I'm really stuck on this. We better end the division.
We better start putting a pressure on this debt that we're having and start solving it.
So we've heard this talk from Donald Trump about the potential of bankrupting the country, right?
Bankrupting the country, cancelling out that debt.
I mean, he says things to the effect of, look, a lot of his debt is because of COVID. China should cancel this debt.
And talk about returning to the gold standard and returning to gold and silver.
What are your thoughts about that topic?
I think it's a useless topic.
Until you balance the budget and stop spending more money than you're spending next year, you're just going to do the same thing again.
So if you went to the gold standard today, but you're still spending $2 trillion more this year than you bring in financially, you just wasted the gold standard.
You cannot support itself.
So we've got to get back to going, you know what, I'm going to have to balance this budget eventually.
I can't sit there and ignore the problem and think that if I cancel debt, that's going to do anything.
In fact, it's just going to make the poor poor is all it's going to do.
I mean, they're going to get a place.
They're never going to have a chance to get up, get out of where they are.
And so if we do that, you're kissing the poor goodbye.
You're kissing the lower middle class goodbye.
And who wins? The wealthy.
And you look at the Tax Cutting Jobs Act.
Listen, I am for low taxes.
I'm not talking about that. But when you give tax breaks to big pharma and big tech, and I'm a small business guy, I got less than 400 employees, and I'm paying 21%, and Bezos is making $35 billion a year in their company, and they pay 6%, and I'm paying 21%, there's something wrong.
And so we've got it wrong here.
And I'm just saying, listen, let's get it right.
Let's just get it right, and we can pay down this debt, and we can do it the right way.
I mean, does getting things right, as bad as they are right now, this thing, getting things right, I mean, are we looking at something, and I'm trying to find the right word, something monumental that we have not experienced yet, even compared to the Great Depression, let's say, that is sort of a wake-up call for where we are in this system that seems to be, right now, suffering through a lot of inherent flaws.
I mean, I think something's coming.
Like I said earlier, I really do believe this next year.
I think what I have seen is the Democratic Party is going to implode.
And I think that the policies of next year, everything that we've set up for, it's going to fall apart.
And the Fed's going to try and save it.
You know, they're going to try and they've already announced.
Listen, they've already announced three interest rate cuts for next year.
But here's why that's going to be a challenge.
If they lower interest rates all the more, that's going to increase growth, that's going to increase inflation all the more, and it's going to fall on top of itself.
We've entered the perfect storm.
When banks are weak, the regional banks that support 60% of America, the small banks in your small mom-and-pop towns of America, they're truly struggling.
If you go talk to them and go, hey, how's your asset balance sheet?
Why? It's weak. And the reason is because 15 years they bought treasuries that paid 0 and 1%.
And now treasuries are paying 5 and 6% or whatever it is.
And they're worth 80 cents on the dollar.
Meaning if they had a bank run, they're in trouble.
So they're weak right now.
Their margins are really low.
The Fed has got its hands tied.
I'm telling you, we're going to be in trouble next year.
So I see that happening.
And the only way to navigate this is with God.
With wisdom, with us being honest with ourselves, and seeing this thing.
You can't just wipe away debt and act like it's going to go away.
That is a fool's errand.
That will not happen here in America, and it's the wrong thing to do.
Wrong thing to do. You know, so in the last hundred years, if you could name a few, up to three of the most critical errors this country has done via presidents, via Congress, that you would want to either fix or you even want to take back that you see as being an EU until today.
Well, I mean, obviously, I think getting off the gold standard was horrible for our nation.
You know, when you look back to Bretton Woods, whenever we got off that, you know, we started treating the currency like it was worthless.
And so, you know, I can understand why you'd want to get off it to some level, because in case of a war, in case of a crisis, You know, you want to be able to have some sort of emergency level of spending.
But the problem is that we got off the appropriations process and the budgeting process as well.
And that was probably, what, 30 years ago?
I mean, we've only had a balanced budget one year in the last 30 years.
So this whole system we have of budgeting is wrong as well.
And I don't know the exact date of when it started.
I just know this. It doesn't happen anymore.
So now all they do is just do this thing where they pass a continuing resolution for more debt level increase.
And you know what you're going to have to have as a president is willing to shut the country down and willing to shut the government down and say, listen, we don't need to spend as much money as we're spending.
We're going to start cutting right here and right now.
And that's going to take that kind of hard leadership.
And you're going to have to tell the Fed to stop doing what they're doing.
I mean, the Fed, the Fed is reckless.
And so with those three things, I think, have been, you know, probably the biggest movements financially that have destroyed our country.
I mean, you could argue in some endless wars we've been in.
But at the end of the day, poor stewardship, poor budgeting, poor financial, you know, leadership is really the cause of the biggest pain that we're facing.
Yeah, yeah. Mr.
Binkley, is there anything we didn't touch upon in this podcast that you want to talk about in closing?
One of the big things that I'm sharing with everybody is that the Republican Party's got to see something.
We are not connecting with the majority of America.
I'm a stat guy.
I'm a business guy. I can look at a marketing problem and try and figure it out.
How does the Republican Party win?
How do we get more votes?
Does anybody ever want to look and see how do you win?
Well, when you got, we only won 46% of the vote in the last two elections.
You know, we lost 46 of the top 50 cities by population.
And by the way, these are the fastest growing segments of our society.
You know, we only won 30% of college students, maybe 35% of every millennial out there.
So we've got some major disadvantages on how we're connecting to young people, how we're connecting to minorities, how the changing electorate has moved the landscape of elections and the Republican Party is being kicked out to be a party of the suburbs and party of the rural America.
When you look at that map, I'm from Texas.
We lost every... We're a red state and we lost every big city in Texas.
Well, eventually we're going to have to ask ourselves, do we have a message for the poor?
Why would somebody this poor want to vote for a Republican?
And so I'm telling people this.
I've got a message for the poor.
And I got a message for Urban America.
I got a message that it's about us helping the most hurting through education, through a volunteer movement, start teaching kids vocational trades at a high school level, a volunteer movement that teaches kids how to read and write better at the third and fifth grade level, because we better do it.
Otherwise, there's going to be a cycle of poverty forever.
The next thing we've got to do is really dive in and just start loving the most hurting.
You know, our country, I think it's strongest whenever we're serving each other.
And so I think this is what we've got to do.
We've got to start seeing the country the way it is, the minorities that are there that are not voting Republican today.
We need to have a message that we care about immigrants.
I think we're good to go.
When we start connecting to things that matter to other people and do it the Republican way, not a socialist way, do it legal and right, when we start connecting people to the heart level, we'll win again.
And this is what I'm in this race for.
Let's grow our party, but let's do it the Republican way.
Let's don't compromise who we are, but let's see people.
Thank you so much, Mr.
Binkley. I really appreciate coming down to the Blood Money Podcast.
This was amazing information and best of luck in these races.
Do you have a rally in Nevada coming up?
Yeah, we've got a couple here this next week in Las Vegas and in the Reno area.
So, you know, it's a caucus. It's just President Trump and me on the caucus on Thursday, February 8th.
There's a primary, which is kind of meaningless.
I mean, it doesn't give any delegates.
And again, I just want everybody to know I'm standing for our party.
I'm not running to disrupt our party or President Trump.
I mean, I love and admire so many things that he's done.
I'm really just standing and fighting for our country, for all of us, and sharing our voice, hoping our voice can sharpen our message, hoping our voice will resonate with more people.
Like, let's wake up and see people.
Let's hit the biggest issues together.
Thank you so much, Mr.
Binkley. And for the viewers out there, thank you so much for joining us for this Blood Money episode.
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