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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money

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The Bare Knuckle Approach to Winning Back America w/ Leigh Dundas (Eps 146)

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	All right, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
	Today we have a very special guest, Leigh Dundas.
	How are you doing? Oh my goodness, I am good.
	It's such an honor to be here with you guys.
	You guys always cover such important topics and I know you've got a great loyal viewer base.
	So, honored to be here and I'm happy to be here.
	Thanks for having me. Thank you so much.
	It's an honor to have you here.
	I mean, we're really excited to have you on the show because you've been at the forefront of the fight for freedom for a really long time.
	I mean, people that have been following all the shenanigans since 2020 have certainly heard your name.
	So, you know, before we kind of dive into you personally, what is the state of the nation right now?
	What is going on out there?
	What are the things that the viewer has to be concerned about and pay attention to?
	Well, obviously, there's been a lot of chatter the last week or so on a couple of topics.
	You know, Trump is in the headlines.
	They set his trial date for, I think, March 4th, which is right in the middle of political busy season for him, Super Tuesday or whatever it is.
	I don't know if you or your viewers have seen that new five or six minute clip where the Trump team put together the fact that all the stuff they're accusing him of doing, you know, criminalizing his speech, basically, was all stuff they had done.
	I mean, they've been harping from the rooftops from, you know, Gore 2000, Hillary Clinton back in the day.
	Oh, it was a stolen election.
	It was a stolen election. Oh, it's not fair that the Republicans got the office.
	Oh, there was, you know, irregularities with the voting.
	It's just laughable almost because they're allowed to do and say what they want and then all of a sudden they're indicting him for doing something that A is perfectly lawful and B is the same stuff they've done and more of on their side.
	So I think that I'm a firm believer that there is no such thing as bad press.
	All press is good press, even the quote bad press.
	But I don't think that Deep State has actually ever learned that truism, that little phrase, because everything they do just...
	The pendulum swings back in his favor.
	When you've got deep Atlanta folk on the not upper crust white side of the equation out in the street applauding his motorcade from the demographic that often I think that he would have thought would have been on their side, you know the tide is changing and I think it's just going to continue to change.
	We have turned back the tide and it's just going to continue to swing in our favor.
	The more the Hunter Biden stuff gets out, Ukraine, Burisma, the whole nine yards.
	And as well, I mean, they overplayed their hand with the vaccine.
	Pharma just thinks that they can kill people and harm people and walk away from it.
	But we survived as a human race by having some...
	A modicum, some modest amount of critical reasoning faculties.
	And, you know, they say it's the more intelligent people who can learn from other people's experiences and mistakes.
	And sometimes those who are less intelligent need to experience it themselves.
	But regardless, when y'all get the shot and your spouse dies on you from myocarditis the next week, or, you know, you get the shot and you're a guitar player who can no longer feel your hands and you're worried they might be amputated, You know, it's not a long road to hoe for you to go, hmm, maybe that shot wasn't so good for me.
	I shouldn't do that a second time.
	And I think we're starting to see the pendulum swing as well there from folks that suspected all was not in order and never would have taken the shot, like me, who knew better.
	And then those who were on the fence.
	And then those who maybe did one or two and really lived, thankfully lived to regret it and are not going to be so easily brainwashed the next time.
	And The other thing that's coming down the pike is kids are going back to school.
	It's going into an election year, and we're already seeing places like Georgia.
	I was on somebody's podcast who hosts out of the state of Georgia yesterday.
	Actually, it was last week. It was before the Trump Vegas event.
	And they said, yeah, our school's already signed off on the mask mandate.
	I'm like, again?
	In a red state?
	Are you crazy? So I think we can see the writing on the wall.
	We just need to stand our ground and not comply.
	I mean, the answer is as simple as it's always been.
	Don't comply. Yeah.
	You know, the title of your book, Just Stand Up, I mean, that kind of encapsulates it all pretty much.
	You know, my fight for freedom from the brothels of Asia to the streets of America.
	I mean, take us, you know, we don't want to hear everything about the book, but take us on that journey.
	I mean, how did this all start for you and get you to where you are today?
	Well, it was an interesting journey.
	I was a normal corporate lawyer.
	The only thing that was sort of unusual was I'd had one good parent, one not good parent.
	So I knew growing up that you don't bow down to tyrannical folk because it doesn't get any better after you turn the other cheek or take a knee.
	That just usually gets worse and emboldens them more.
	So I was a little hardwired through either nature or nurture or some combination to always be the outspoken one, yelling my truth, standing up for the underdog.
	And then in eighth grade, I got an opportunity to take a test because of my test scores on standardized testing.
	And they said, hey, if you score well enough, you can start college full time.
	So I took the test.
	I apparently scored well enough on the reading and writing, the math I sucked on, but they didn't care about the math.
	Because you don't get through college on your math skills.
	You get through college on your ability to do, you know, essay tests and read and write.
	So I started college.
	I graduated when I was 17, got into Yale Law School, got in everywhere else I applied.
	And then I was a young lawyer.
	I was younger than the average bear, but I was working for the best law firms in town, representing multi-million dollar companies in court in their litigation battles.
	And that was all very normal for that kind of a lawyer.
	It was soul-suckingly boring.
	It was great training. I wouldn't trade it now.
	Looking back, God had me where he needed me to let me know.
	A lot of the companies we worked for, by the way, were like pesticide manufacturers.
	I was an environmental lawyer.
	We weren't representing Greenpeace at a big firm with $1,200 an hour.
	At the time, it was probably $600 an hour billing rates.
	But so you're not representing Save the Whales kind of groups, you're representing the corporate polluters.
	But again, things work out for a reason, I firmly believe.
	And it gave me insight into the fact that some of the biggest companies on the planet are not the ones who care about you.
	They will rape and pillage the planet, and you and your family in search of the almighty dollar, and they just don't give a darn.
	So that was a very bitter pill for me to swallow.
	I wanted to be at the large firm.
	I was the first in my family to go to college or law school or be a lawyer.
	You know, my dad was an auto body worker.
	My mother was a homemaker. Who helped in his business.
	My mom's family, they were run out of Dodge, out of Eastern Europe.
	They were Roma, Gypsy, Hungarian folk that had escaped communism themselves.
	That's how my grandfather ended up in America.
	There was a lot of There's no expectation, as there always is with the children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants, to not be a job hopper, to not waste your education.
	So I stayed for a long time at that law firm, but it was not...
	Despite being a great education for 2020, it was not fulfilling.
	I had spent my third year of law school interning at the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office, putting criminals away in jury trials.
	They let the students practice.
	I mean, you know, if it's a drug case or an escaped convict case, I didn't know that when you escape jail, it becomes your own separate crime.
	Until I had to prosecute a guy for escaping jail because now we had another crime on top of the crime that got him in jail in the first place.
	I didn't know also that people escaped from jail.
	I'm like, they actually get out?
	Alcatraz is a thing? Who knew?
	It happens actually more than you would know.
	And I fell in love with the work because it's all verbal.
	It's on your feet. You're in court all day, every day.
	You don't have time to get scared. You don't have time to even prepare your case because the amount of criminals is overwhelming and the amount of people prosecuting him is underwhelming.
	And at the end of that, I'll never forget, my supervising attorney in the Whittier-Riohondo courthouse office sat me down and he said, you're amazing.
	You're a natural at this job.
	We could really use you and I think you would make a great sex crimes prosecutor.
	And I had $106,000 of law school debt.
	My father said he was going to pay for it and they welched and he welched after the point in time where I could have gotten a ton of scholarships.
	And I didn't know this, but the scholarships triggered off the financial aid application.
	It was one application and I hadn't applied for financial aid because I thought one of my parents was going to pay for it.
	And by the time I figured it out, I had no choice.
	I had to apply for financial aid.
	So I looked at this guy and I said, I would love to work here, but I have a lot of debt and you guys are paying poverty line wages, so I'm going to go to the big firm and maybe one day I'll come back.
	And he smiled knowingly and I talk about it in my book.
	And he and I both knew we were making, I was making a mistake.
	And off I went to the big firm where every hour, billable hour felt like a year of my life.
	And I worked there for a long time, and then I had a kid, and my husband and I worked at his business so that I had more flexibility than being a big corporate lawyer provided.
	And in 2013, we sold my husband's practice.
	We had a little bit of money. We moved to Australia, put my daughter in private school down there, visited some friends of ours that were living down there at the time.
	And I was instantly bored, my friend.
	I was so bored.
	I had never not been in school or not working.
	I mean, all summer, every vacation break, I was just, from the time I was three, I went to school all day, every day.
	Because I loved it. And then I went, you know, and worked all day every day.
	And I was just crawling the walls in this teeny tiny apartment we had rented in Glebe, which is a small suburb of Sydney, Australia.
	And I started cold calling anti-sex trafficking organizations on that part of the world.
	And one for one, it was hysterical.
	They'd pick up the phone and they'd go, so let me get this straight.
	You're a white soccer mom.
	Here with your eight-year-old daughter and husband, and you want to do good and help us bust brothels in Asia.
	Okay, bye-bye! And then finally, three or four weeks later, we're in New Zealand.
	I get a call back. It's a guy who rescued two orphans, adopted two orphans from Vietnam, felt bad he couldn't adopt them all.
	He and his wife opened some orphanages there.
	They were starting to see sex-trafficked youth coming through their orphanages.
	They'd set up a meeting with the Vietnamese government and some friends of theirs from church, and they were all living in Orange County, literally walking distance of my husband's office we had just sold.
	What are the odds? And they said, the wife called me.
	She goes, sorry I didn't call you back for a month.
	We were out of town, but I got your voicemail on our answering machine.
	My husband's still deep-sea fishing, but he wanted me to ask you, He and his friends, his friends run an anti-sex trafficking non-profit, and they've all set up this meeting with the Prime Minister or whatever guy he was in the Vietnamese government, some muckety-muck, on May 23rd, 2013, and they want you to come and be there.
	And I covered the phone.
	It was such a crappy cell phone from New Zealand, it didn't even have a mute button, and I go, Babe, remember how I made 500 phone calls to all these sex trafficking outfits and none of them would give me the time of day?
	They want us to go to Da Nang, Vietnam and I'm going to get to sit in on a meeting and I don't even know what I'm doing.
	I never ask permission.
	I usually beg forgiveness. But I had my whole family there traveling to New Zealand.
	I'm like, are you guys okay if we go?
	And my husband goes, What's going on there?
	And I go, I don't know.
	I'm having a Kevin Cosner moment.
	Like, if I build it, they will come.
	If I go, I'll know why I went.
	And it's not like me.
	I'm a left brain lawyer, but I'm flying by the seat of my pants.
	I'm going to drag my eight year old to go to Da Nang, Vietnam and meet people that lived walking distance of our house and practice in Orange County.
	And we did. He's like, I'm all in.
	You've supported me. Help support me for 10 years at my practice that we just sold.
	It's my turn to support you.
	I went to the meeting.
	I had tears in my eyes.
	I loved every minute of it.
	I volunteered my time with that organization for the next few months while we traveled through Southeast Asia.
	Came home with a job as general counsel, nominally, which was a paper-pushing job, but actually I was hired to open their Southeast Asia office and hire and run former Navy SEAL-type guys into the child brothels pretending to be pedophile buyers and liaise with the foreign governments to bust the brothels and the sellers and the buyers and get the girls out.
	Wow. What was the process of that?
	They would go undercover to find the girls?
	Do you know much about how does that work?
	I can talk about it.
	I didn't know my elbow from a hole in the ground.
	All these nonprofits were probably right to take a hard pass on me at the time.
	I was passionate and I thought I had a transferable skill set and I did for You know, the organization I was working for for so many years, it's called A21.org.
	They do great work. They were founded by Nick and Christine Kane.
	She's a Christian pastor that does church plannings.
	And they were in Greece and saw all these missing young women photos in the hallways of the jet bridges and stuff in Greece.
	And she's like, How can you have, like, 500 missing girls the same age?
	And somebody leaned over and clued her in.
	They're like, they've been sex trafficked.
	And she's like, what's that? And that was her entry point.
	And like any awesome, she's like me and then son.
	That girl's hard-hitting, that woman.
	And she's like, well, this is wrong.
	I'm going to open an anti-sex sort of trafficking nonprofit.
	They're Christian-funded and Christian donors.
	And I did things like the Walk for Freedom that they hold every year, and I had to draft up the release of liability that you sign, where it says, if I trip and fall and skin my knee, it's on me.
	It's not on the organization.
	That was a transferable skill set, but that was...
	Actually, the minority of my job, I was doing that on the 25, 35 hours flight to Thailand out of LA. What I was asked to do was interview, and I had interviewed lawyers, but never former Navy SEAL, former SWAT guys, interview these guys who were getting out of some sort of special ops background or highly trained law enforcement background.
	We vetted them and we hired the ones that we liked.
	And I said, you're going to be rolling into these brothels in Thailand.
	And they're like, what? And they knew more about it than I did.
	I was learning from them as much as I was imparting to them.
	And our organization at the time was doing more education awareness.
	We weren't doing the OUR, IJM style.
	That's Operation Underground Railroad.
	That was the Sound of Freedom movie that just came out.
	And IJM, also a good organization.
	One of the very first ones that was doing this work.
	They're worldwide. They've been doing it longer than most.
	It's International Justice Mission, also Christian, largely Christian-backed and funded.
	And they were doing these things.
	Our organization, this was our first time doing it, my first time hiring people to do this.
	And I found myself literally logging on to these 007 websites.
	You would have laughed, my friend.
	And I'm looking at wristwatches that are high-definition, low-light setting, audio-video Watches that look like the big chunky ones that the Navy SEALs wear that you can dive with, but they're actually very finely tuned, very expensive video recording, audio video recording, things that are meant to go into bars that have crappy light and actually still get people's faces on camera.
	And they have all sorts of stuff. They have pens and they have hats and they have all the stuff that you read about, like a Nancy Drew novel or an Agatha Christie novel.
	I remember telling my husband, I was doing a lot of work from the house at that point, and I'm like, Dude, like, if you had asked me a year ago if I thought I'd ever be doing this, like, this is crazy stuff.
	And we would outfit our guys with undercover surveillance equipment, and they would go scout out an area, and they would walk into a town full of brothels, like the one we would do a lot of work with in Southeast Asia.
	You can see the girls up there.
	I blurred her face, although something about the camera makes it look less blurry than it is in real life.
	But anyway... She's in the brothel town in the deep south of Thailand that we work with.
	There's 140 child brothels there.
	There's nothing else. They've taken over every bar, every store, every bank.
	There's nothing but brothels in these towns.
	And they're selling underage girls for sex to pedophiles.
	And we send our guys into these border towns and they belly up to the bar.
	And they pretend to be a tourist or maybe a pedophile.
	A lot of the guys who go there from America have done their research online.
	They go there because They're a pedophile and they like little boys who are seven or little girls who are three years old.
	They know what they want and they go to the town that sells more of that.
	And they go into the bar and they pretend to be one of those dudes.
	And God bless the undercover guys.
	I mean, these are usually God-fearing, Christian-based people who have, like Jim Caviezel portrayed in the movie Sound of Freedom, have two, three, four, eight of their own kids at home and a wife who's worried that they're going to get blown up in this brothel town.
	And they go in and they do a believable job of ordering a burger, ordering a beer, and ordering number 13.
	And number 13, of course, is a girl.
	And when they're done with their burger and their beer and singing karaoke, a lot of the bars in the town I work in, they're karaoke bars.
	When they're all done with all that, you know, entertainment, they walk in back and they do what they do with these children and they pay the mom a son for the privilege of it.
	And there's another good organization that does a lot of work in Cambodia.
	I came across them when I was volunteering my time for A21. Their name is Love146.
	At least that used to be the name of their nonprofit.
	And when I was talking to the guy who was working for them at the time, I said, how'd they get their name?
	And he said, well, the guy who founded it didn't know any better and found some Navy SEALs that were doing this work in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.
	I believe it was Phnom Penh.
	And he went with them, which is not recommended, and now he knows better, but he didn't know at the time.
	He went with them into a brothel when they were doing undercover work and they went into in Cambodia There's there's fish bowls So you'll go in and sometimes they'll have a painted glass or plexiglass and the girls are literally five six seven year old girls are Sitting five ten fifteen of them behind this painted glass with a number on their dress Number five number ten number and so when they walked in the the guy who went on to be found this love one four six not NGO nonprofit
	There was only one girl who was making eye contact with him and the Navy SEAL guys and it was number one four six And she was just staring at him.
	And they didn't know if that was her first night there and she hadn't been broken down yet or she was just more resilient.
	All the others were apathetic, staring at the floor and not making eye contact with customers.
	But she was beaming her eyes into theirs and it really impacted him.
	And they decided they were going to bust the brothel.
	And when they went back some nights later, they did in fact bust whatever that brothel was in Cambodia, but she wasn't there.
	And it broke his heart.
	And so when he founded his sex trafficking nonprofit, this young guy, I want to say only like 20 or early 30s at the time, not an old guy.
	He named it Love 146 in her honor.
	And that's what they do. They love the girls, the work.
	They rescue them. They get them out.
	And they get them help.
	So that's what all these groups do.
	OUR, Around the World, the one I worked for, Love146.
	They go into the brothels, they send in the Navy SEAL type guys to pretend to be pedophile buyers.
	They get the scene and then we go back and we bust the brothels, including the buyers.
	I told my guys at the time it was trendy.
	To only bust the sellers, the mamasans and the mafia guys running the brothel, the pimps basically in the equation.
	I said, look, you got a flippant wristwatch that we paid two grand for on your wrist.
	If you're sitting next to a Chicago dentist, you get his name and his practice name.
	I want to know because I'll feed that right back to DOJ, FBI, or if he's from England or South Australia, whatever.
	I will send it to MI. I'll get it to their country's law enforcement so we can Not just bust the sellers who are part of the problem, but frankly not the cause of it.
	Because if there were no demand, they'd be selling drugs in arms again and not children for sex.
	I want to be best in the buyers because they're the ones who are creating the demand for the problem.
	So we did both. Wow.
	So when you say bust the brothels, what does that mean?
	Like you're arresting a bunch of people?
	Like now under what jurisdiction do those arrests fall under?
	If it is arrest, I mean, what happens there?
	You know, that's another thing I've seen.
	There's a number of criticisms of the Sound of Freedom movie, like, oh, they didn't take the survivor voice into account.
	Okay, newsflash, you can only tell a story from really one point of view in 90 minutes.
	It never said it was telling the story from the survivor viewpoint.
	You want to tell it from the survivor viewpoint because you're a survivor yourself?
	Go out, write a screenplay, go get some funding, and wait 10 years knocking on every door, and then get it made.
	And then hear people criticize you for having made it.
	And I don't mean to sound harsh.
	I work with survivors. I myself have been a victim of sexual violence.
	I get it. But you can only do so much in a single book or a single movie.
	I thought it did a fair job of what it set out to do.
	But the second half of that is, you know, the criticism was, oh, there's a lot of criticism that Tim Ballard and his organization played it fast and loose and didn't go through the appropriate bureaucratic lines in these countries.
	Yo! Unless you've worked in a third world country or been to war at one, you'll have no idea what you're talking about.
	There is no bureaucracy in these third world countries.
	The only bureaucracy that exists are a government that is most often extorting money from the brothels for the privilege of letting them operate.
	So literally, the cops and the prosecutors in the places I work, and I'm sure it's no different in South America, Are on the payroll of the brothels.
	You have to understand how poor everybody is.
	Everybody's poor. One of the first times we interviewed a sex slave, it was her friend, a brave girl, one of the only girls, the only girl, actually, raised her hand for the privilege of being interviewed by us.
	We said, did you know when you got here what you would be doing?
	And she goes, yeah, I knew exactly what I'd be doing, but I'm not unhappy because my seven brothers and sisters have food on the table and they're not starving to death.
	I was like, oh, whoa!
	Like, I need some education that I didn't think I needed as a do-gooder from America.
	Like, I would have thought it was a bad thing to sell your child to a brothel.
	And now I have a question for your viewers.
	Is it any more or less bad to not sell your only child or eldest child to a brothel so that all of you can starve this year?
	Now she's dead. Seven brothers and sisters are dead.
	Your husband's dead. You're dead.
	Is that a better end? Yeah.
	So that is how poor they are.
	And the cops are that poor too.
	So they work from 9 to 5 doing their day job and so that their children don't have to be sold into a brothel but can instead go to private school in New Zealand and have a somewhat normal life.
	Guess what those cops do? Not all of them, but a lot of them.
	On a scale of 1 to 5 of corruption of police, Thailand routinely ranks 4 or 5.
	That gives you some idea by being the most corrupt.
	Everybody's corrupt in a lot of these countries except the one normal guy who's not a pedophile and sticking to his guns.
	Everybody else gets off their day job at 5 p.m.
	working for the courts, being a lawyer, being a prosecutor, being a cop.
	They take a dinner break and at 6 p.m.
	they clock in at the brothel as the bouncer for the brothel, as the muscle for the brothel.
	So you walk into these countries And you're like, how come the cops aren't arresting the brothels and prosecuting them?
	Because the owner of the brothel is the one signing his paycheck for his moonlight job that's keeping his kid in private school.
	So there is no bureaucracy.
	The first thing I did as a lawyer, where I wasn't interviewing former Navy SEAL SWAT guys out of New York City, was I drafted a contract.
	It was a Memorandum of Understanding, is what we called it, between the Royal Thai Police Crime Suppression Division, which was the non-corrupt or You know, part of the Royal Thai police arm and our entity that allowed us to operate in their country with basically carte blanche control.
	Why? Why was that important?
	Because you're like, well, how come you didn't let the country take possession of the slaves that you were rescuing?
	Well, I'll tell you why. Because when journalists like you, my friend, managed to get to the one state run, Thailand run, It's a rescue rehab facility where the girls who come out of the brothels are placed.
	It's on an island in the middle of a river.
	And when the one journalist every three years gets in there, the girls get done talking to him and they go, oh, wait a second, you're a journalist?
	And the guy goes, yeah. And she's like, can you get me out of here?
	Because I'd rather go back to the brothel.
	It was better at the brothel.
	Wow, wow. Right?
	Not exactly a resounding endorsement of her rescue facility.
	She'd rather go back to the brothel.
	So the last thing you want to do as any normal person, Christian person, you know, spiritually inclined person where you're trying to do good work is rescue somebody out of a brothel and put them in a place that's worse than the brothel where they're wanting to go back to the family that sold them into the brothel or to the brothel that was selling them 10 times a night to a sex buyer.
	So Before all of us people living in America who were born with a silver spoon in our mouth, which is everybody in America, I'm telling you, the homeless guy on the street corner in Chicago is rich.
	Rich. Nobody starves to death in America.
	Nobody. Unless you want to.
	There's a soup kitchen and a church on every corner.
	You actually starved to death in the places I'm talking about, and it ain't pretty.
	Before we go, passing judgment.
	On how the rescues go down and why you're doing things as a lawyer from California like saying, hey, once we do the rescue, we'd really rather not have the girls be in your Thai state facility, but we'd rather put them in a Christian-based facility that isn't re-trafficking them or sending them back to their family so they can sell the same girl as a re-virginized virgin for a second time for $300 for an unsuspecting madam, because that happens too, so they can stay alive before you indict the family.
	They're doing it so they don't die. Kind of a rock-and-a-hard place choice.
	But all these things are going on in the background.
	And so for an American sex trafficking survivor or, you know, pastor or anybody in between to be like, well, I don't think Sound of Freedom took into account, or I don't like the way they do their raids in foreign countries, You're in hell when you're in these foreign countries.
	You are staying in a brothel to do the work.
	When I get to this town in the south of Thailand, it is a three-hour drive through radical, jihadi, Muslim-controlled territory.
	I got into a rental car with the pastor.
	We were going, 120 miles an hour.
	I'm fresh off a flight. I'm jet lagged.
	It's a 15-hour time difference.
	It's a 30-hour flight unless you get really good layovers and then it's maybe a 26-hour flight.
	And he's going at the speed of light.
	And I look at him and I'm like, apparently he looked at my expression.
	He's like, you want me to explain? I'm like, please.
	And he goes, so the way the radical jihadi bombers work down here in the deep south of Thailand, because they're at war with the Thai Buddhists, the Malaysia radical jihads are bombing the Thai Buddhist, you know, temples, is they hide behind a rubber tree in the jungle off to the side of the road right there.
	And there's a million rubber trees. See the rubber trees?
	I'm like, yeah, I see the rubber trees. He's like, they hide behind one of them and they wait for a good looking target car.
	And I go, oh, you mean like a rental car with white people in it?
	And he goes, right. Or military or cop.
	They don't really care. Any of those three will do.
	That's a good-looking target car.
	And then they do this.
	They remote detonate.
	And I looked back and I go, oh, hell no.
	So you're just outrunning their trigger finger right now?
	He goes, darn right.
	You want to pray? I go, can you drive 120 and pray together?
	And he's like, yes, I can.
	I do it all the time. I'm like, let's pray.
	And then you get 30 minutes later to this tall wood watchtower.
	It looks like something out of the U2 all along the watchtower, you know, thing that your mind conjured up from that 90s Rattle and Hum album or whatever it was.
	And these guys in military camo come out.
	And you're like, oh, that's the military.
	I should feel safe. And then they, you know, belly up to the driver's side window on your rental car and you look at them, they haven't hit puberty.
	These are 15-year-old guys that have been recruited into the Thai Army And are younger than your teenager at home wielding a fully automatic rifle.
	And his other buddy, who's maybe 15 and a half years old, has got two German Shepherds that are slavering at the car.
	You know, I mean, it looks like something out of a movie.
	And they have an extension pole that looks like the pole you use to run your pool net through to get the leaves out of your pool.
	But instead of having a net at the end, it's got a mirror at the end.
	And they're running it under your car to make sure you're not the bomber.
	And you have had to go left and right at 90 degree angles, slow to a crawl, because they have sawhorses and tack strips and concertina wire that's running you through this maze so that you can't blow through and remote detonate as you go through.
	I mean, and you go through like six of these every half hour on your three-hour, 120-mile drive to the brothel town, and then you get out of the brothel town, and you're like, Oh, my God.
	Thank you, Lord. I made it.
	And then you realize you're staying in a brothel tonight because there ain't no hotels in this town that aren't brothels.
	And by the way, it is radical jihadi territory.
	And in addition to having 140 child brothels, on the other side of the river, on the Malay side, are the radical jihadi terror training camps.
	And the first year I worked there, they had 330 bombs go off that year because they are bombing the hell out of the brothels to keep their bombing skills sharp.
	Wow. So all I would say to you is, A, sound of freedom raised awareness, and that's a good thing.
	B, it was a fairly fair depiction of what that man did.
	He never said, I'm telling a survivor story.
	He said, I'm telling what it's like to go do this work as the person doing the work.
	And it was fair. I mean, I've never worked in South America, but I know people who know Tim Ballard and OUR and Jim Caviezel.
	It was very similar to what we do in Southeast Asia.
	We need to take a step back and realize there but for the grace of God go you and your child.
	You were born in California or Chicago.
	It could have been just as easily Cambodia or radical jihadi Thailand.
	And you would be forced to go, am I going to sell one to save the rest?
	Or do I stick on my principles so we all die?
	I mean, when you're saying that, it's just like we are so spoiled, right?
	And I almost think that what we're going through right now in this country, where it's just gone haywire and people seem to have lost their minds, has a lot to do with us being so spoiled.
	Because I think if you experienced like two weeks of what you just said, I mean, wouldn't that completely change everybody's perspective as to what they have here?
	I was talking to a billionaire, an actual billionaire who's been funding a lot of the good stuff, and the reason he wanted to do lunch with me, he said, you know, I want to pay all these libtardy youth at these colleges, because I forget if it's 51 or 52% of our youth, when you survey them in college right now, this is an actual study, think it would be cool to live in a communist or socialist country.
	I'm like, no it ain't.
	I'll take you there. You'll change your tune in a New York second.
	First of all, you should not have to even go there to experience the change of heart.
	Just look at the amount of immigration, not emigration.
	Emigration is coming out of a country, E-M-I, Gratian.
	Immigration is going into a country, I-M-M-I. The amount of immigration to North Korea or Venezuela or Cuba right now.
	Oh yeah, it's zero? Yeah, there's a reason for that, my friend.
	There's a reason for that. The amount of emigration from people like that on their little rafts trying to like rowboat their way to Florida.
	Heck yeah! They're coming for what we got and have been busy ignoring.
	Our founding fathers gave us a hell of a gift and all of our military vets, including my grandfather, was standing on the deck of the USS West Virginia when Japanese bombers bombed it out from under him and he survived that and two more ships getting bombed out from under him.
	Those people gave us a brilliant gift.
	But yeah, I'm talking to this billionaire and he goes, I just want to send them to a communist country.
	But nobody, he literally tried to deploy this program, I think, in the colleges and nobody signed up.
	I said, well, they're not going to.
	You're going in the front door. You need to go in the side door.
	He goes, what's the side door?
	I go, well, everybody loves to talk about human trafficking right now, especially the Democrats, because it's traditionally on their side of the fence, the do-goody, you know, save the children.
	I go, you just explained that you want to take, you know, like a Habitat for Humanity.
	You're going to do a A tour into the sex trafficking regions of these African and Asian countries.
	And they're going to learn about sex trafficking and help the girls there.
	And I can tell you how it's going to go because I took my child there and this is how it went.
	And she was eight. Mama, how did this happen?
	And you go, oh, like how did they get so poor they're having to sell their child to the brothel or to an American tourist?
	Yeah, that's communism.
	What do you mean? Well, there was a communist overthrow of the government.
	They told the people in Cambodia it was only going to be two weeks.
	Sound familiar? And they were just going to take the intellectual elite out and they were going to learn how to be happy with nothing.
	They were going to make them equal.
	Communism makes you equal by making you equally poor.
	They don't tell you that. And then when they didn't die quickly enough from being starved to death, then they would just execute them with a bullet in the back of the head so they could fall face down into these shallow graves.
	But bullets are pricey and communists are poor, so they rapidly move in most societies, including Cambodia, during the Pol Pot overthrow in the 70s.
	When I was a kid, they rapidly moved to just hatcheting them in the back because then they could pull it back out and reuse it on the next person they were going to kill.
	And to this day, to this day, when the rains come, that is my daughter and I Okay?
	In the killing fields of Cambodia.
	They're looking like a bunch of fields, by the way.
	And I took her there thinking, okay, we're going to listen to the audio track ahead of her.
	And if it's not too gory and crazy and it just tells the history kind of PG, I'll let her listen to that track.
	She'll be one track behind me and my husband.
	And it's just a bunch of fields.
	And you're walking through and they're telling you what happened.
	The story I just told you, people are dying, whatever.
	What I didn't know is at the end of the field, there is this structure.
	It's like a three-story tall glass case.
	And my daughter, like any self-respecting third grader, takes off running.
	And before my fat little thighs can catch up, she is face-to-face with that.
	With skeletons, skulls, she was face to face and they have them segregated.
	So all the skulls are on one level and all the thigh bones, femurs are on one level and the humerus is and they have child skulls.
	They have a whole section of child skulls.
	And she was eyeball to eye socket with a kid who had probably been about her age when they were killed.
	And to this day when the rains come every year, it's been almost 50 years.
	This was the late 70s we're talking about when I was a child.
	The rain, the typhoons come, they wash away the top layer of dirt, and the bones of the dead to this day, 50 frickin' years later almost, will rise up, and the Cambodians will take their bones and put them in this memorial.
	And it says in Cambodian, and they translate it into English, which is everybody's common and non-binary language, let us never forget what was done here.
	And my daughter, when I finally got up to her, she looked at me and she goes, Mama, what happened?
	How did this happen?
	And I leaned down and I said, those in power lied to the people.
	And by the time they figured it out, it was too late.
	You let it be a lesson to you.
	You don't ever trust anybody in a position, especially if they're in power.
	You don't grant them a longer lead because they're in power.
	As a default, you don't trust them for the simple fact that they are in power and they got there through some way and it's not always pretty.
	And you always use your critical reasoning and your gut instinct.
	And if there is a disconnect between what your brain is telling you and your heart and your solar plexus, you listen to your gut.
	Yeah. Because that is what keeps you alive.
	I mean, but a lot of people seem to lack that discernment nowadays.
	They do. And that's led us into calamity.
	It seems like even again, now they're going to talk about shutdown number two.
	It seems like a lot of people would be fine to go along with that.
	Yeah. They need to not do that.
	You need to stand your ground.
	I mean, my goodness, if you weren't understanding the first time, I'll grant you that.
	But hello, they're using the same playbook all over again.
	And it's the communist playbook.
	The communists had 45 goals.
	Khrushchev said, I'll take America without firing a single shot.
	He largely has. Those goals were actually read into the open congressional record in 1963.
	Go Google it. You don't even need to DuckDuckGo or SwissCow it.
	You can go Google it and you will see them.
	And it was recognizing Red China officially, permitting trade between countries regardless of communist affiliation, capturing one or both political parties, taking over the schools so they could use them as a quote unquote transmission belt, For the purveying of communist and socialist propaganda, taking over the teachers unions for the same reason,
	capturing the student press, the free press, normalizing sexual perversion and divorce, and getting rid of religion and getting rid of prayer in school by calling it a violation of the separation of church and state, and discrediting our founding fathers and our constitution.
	I mean, I'm just going from memory here.
	I think I read off at least 12 or 15.
	They have more than gotten through half of their agenda.
	And it is an agenda.
	And you are the guinea pigs.
	And the more you take a knee to tyranny, the more they are going to Beat you up and run your little behind into a FEMA camp.
	I thought it was weird at the beginning when I was standing on stages in April of 2020 in front of the Capitol in Sacramento, and it was child abuse victims who were adults, domestic violence, rape survivors, and communist refugees.
	Yeah. That was it.
	We were the ones screaming into the bullhorns first.
	And after a few weeks, I was like, this is so weird.
	At every board meeting, when I go to Sacramento eight hours from here, every rally, every church that's staying open, all these women are coming up and they're like, I'm a rape survivor.
	I was a sexual abuse survivor.
	I escaped communist Vietnam when I was like blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, what is with this motley crew that's leading the charge?
	And then one day, I don't know why it didn't hit me sooner.
	I'm like, oh, I get it.
	We're the people who were lied to by our parents and our governments.
	We're the ones who had people who were supposed to protect us who were instead perpetrating against us at age 5, 7, whatever, and stayed alive.
	By recognizing that it was a line of BS and not waiting for them to prove it and getting the hell out of Dodge, getting away from the abusive husband, the abusive parent, the abusive government, those were the survivors that didn't allow themselves to be raped and murdered or killed or heroin addict because they're running from their youth disease.
	Into oblivion.
	The ones who survived and went on to live semi-normal lives and not continue the generational craziness into their kids, those are the ones who could see the writing on the wall.
	And I've been telling every audience that I've spoken to ever since, I'm like, you need to listen to these people because they are sounding an alarm that you can't hear with your normal upbringing and your first world skills.
	And I include my daughter in that.
	We were There was a nail place here in Orange County that stayed open, run by Vietnamese women who had literally left on a boat from Vietnam.
	And, of course, I work in Thailand, right?
	And I grew up with crazy, so I count myself in kind of both of those.
	I've worked in communist countries.
	I didn't escape. I worked in communist countries and grew up with a person who was not out to necessarily protect me, but do the opposite.
	And so I go into Navy Seal mode like that.
	I mean, that's why I'm a soccer mom rolling with Navy Seals in towns that go boom, 330 bombs a year, right?
	And I'm okay with it.
	And I get that not everybody is.
	So we're walking up to this nail place that has agreed to do our nails.
	And for them, I'm keeping them in business because they're going to go out of business during lockdown here in California.
	And my daughter and I had gone to a coffee shop that was permitted to be open at the time.
	That was nearby and got our chai tea.
	And I go, okay, honey, we're going to walk down the sidewalk this way.
	We're not going to just cut across the parking lot and go from the coffee shop into the nail place.
	We're going to go down this way, walk behind some parked cars, then we're going to bend down, you know, behind the SUVs that are in a row there, and we're going to walk across, and we're going to get up there.
	And she's got, you know...
	A book bag in one hand and a drink in the other.
	And we basically run up to the door and I do the knock, knock, knock, you know, real quickly on this door.
	And the girl, like, looks outside.
	She's got all her blinds drawn across all these bay windows in her place.
	She looks outside and she, like, only opens the door, like, you know, this wide so that we can sneak in quickly.
	Was not raised in an abusive place, has never been exposed to abuse, and I've never taken her to the places where I'm actually doing the sex trafficking work in a communist country.
	We visit the tourist spots when I'm there with her.
	And she's standing there.
	And I'm literally drenched in a cold sweat, as is this young Vietnamese woman.
	And the girl is like, get in, get in!
	And I'm like, Katya, get inside, now!
	And I never yell at my kid.
	I'm like, now! Do you understand me?
	Because the last thing I wanted was to put this woman out of business, have her be arrested, right, for staying open.
	And it was so weird in that moment, because the sun is shining, and the birds are chirping, and I'm there with my daughter, and we've been there a million times.
	And you know, you've You come out of your childhood for all of its ups and downs and you're going to be a better whatever.
	Whether it was a good childhood or a bad one or a mixed one, I had a great one and by turns sometimes a bad one.
	And you're like, I'm going to do better, right?
	We all try to do better by our kids and so many times that means preventing them from experiencing the ugly that we all live through in whatever way, shape or form.
	But the downside of that is they don't have That inner That paranoia, that inner alarm system that survivors have.
	And so my daughter's looking at me like, why are everybody's panties in a twist, right?
	Here we are. And, you know, I basically bodily shoved her through the door, you know, turned around.
	Me and the Vietnamese girl are slamming it shut.
	She's double locking it.
	We're making sure that the blind is back in place and not wiggling and the air isn't on and making it wiggle so it looks like she's completely out of business.
	For my part, I brought her cash.
	Right? And or a check that I'm predating to before the lockdown.
	We're both like instantly lockstep on how to make this work and keep her in business and keep some semblance of normalcy for my child who just wanted to get her nails done.
	I hate getting my nails done, but my kid loves it, so I do it, right?
	Because it's a fun mommy thing.
	And I looked at my daughter and I thought, this is a problem I don't know how to solve.
	Because you cannot, I don't know why I'm so emotional right now, I apologize, you cannot make a child or a person have that alarm system unless you make them live through the crap and nobody who's a social, normal, non-psychotic person wants to do that to another human being.
	So the best that I can say to your viewers is if you didn't grow up with that internal very well calibrated alarm system because you lived through some crazy, the best thing you can do for yourself is to listen to the people who did because they are going to hear the alarm and see it and see that writing on the wall long before you do and whatever they say you should follow them.
	because they are they have already survived this shit once and the odds are they can do it twice and if you follow your normal neighbor and your normal politician and your normal news broadcast they're not going to lead you out of this thick of it the people who've survived it once are the people to follow and i include myself in that and and it's it's a crazy thing to say but it's just the way it is and the other thing that you can really do yourself a favor and your kids a favor take them Not in a weird way,
	in an out gradient, and by that mean a too much in at the deep end of the pool kind of way.
	I thought I was making a mistake when my daughter found her way to that monument that I didn't know existed at the end of the killing fields.
	I thought I'd protected her, that we'd done the touristy thing without exposing her to that.
	But it was the best damn thing I could have done.
	That and another place where a mother tried to sell her one-year-old baby to us because she didn't have any money to keep her alive.
	And my daughter overheard that transaction and she said, Mama, did she just try to sell her baby to you?
	And I said yes.
	And that child now knows where communism leads.
	And so maybe she doesn't see the writing on the wall as quickly as I, her mother, do.
	But when I say this is what's going on in this pandemic, she knows.
	And she is at a very liberal college and she is not about to go libtardy crazy.
	She's converting people for Christ and for freedom, man, during her first year in her freshman year.
	And that is what we've got to do.
	We've got to quit Protecting our children.
	You don't want to give them all the ugly.
	I don't need you to have a $10,000 therapy bill at the end of it.
	But you do need to quit taking them to Disneyland and the Grand Canyon and start showing them a little bit of real life because that is what grounds them and that is what gives them the ability to differentiate truth from evil and they are going to need that in the fight that we are in.
	I mean, you know, and I know why you're getting emotional there, because it's a tough thing.
	Like, how do you, it's almost like taking your child's innocence away.
	But, you know, I look at this country, and it's almost the fact that people have a certain innocence is why they're all so spoiled.
	They don't understand what exists.
	I mean, they don't even know what's going on in the bad neighborhoods in their own town most of the time.
	Exactly right. I went to a Bible study, a small group of women, but they're mainly the ladies who lunch.
	And by that, I mean that the coastal crowd here in Orange County with the rocks on their fingers.
	And they get their nails done every week.
	And they have the newest handbags from Nordy's and Macy's.
	And not my scene.
	I've said it once. I'll say it again.
	I am more at home in a brothel, a child brothel in Asia, talking to the girls.
	And figuring out what their lives are like and how we can get them out than I will ever be with the tennis and golf crowd here in Orange County.
	It's just I don't have time for vapid discussions at that superficial level.
	So even before 2020, it wasn't what I was about.
	And since 2020, oh my goodness, right?
	So there's this mother in the background and she goes, you know, I raised my kids right.
	They went to private Christian schools.
	And I don't mean to indict this woman on the off chance she happens to be watching, but there is a lesson here.
	They went to all the best schools, and they went to all the best everything, and they had a good relationship with God, and they went off to college, and now they think they're gay, they buzz their head, they, you know, are marching in the George Floyd, and I mean, just the whole night, right?
	And she's asking the woman who was sharing that day, who was herself a young woman, not a mother, but very Very well traveled and had had a personal experience where God had literally saved her.
	Very compelling woman.
	So she asked the woman who was being spotlighted that day, which was not me.
	I was just in the audience being an attendee at the Bible study.
	She goes, what can I do?
	And the woman was sort of hemming and hawing, the speaker was, and trying to find her way.
	And she goes, finally she sort of stumbles on the same answer that had been in my mind, which was, she goes, well, I work with an organization in Watts and Compton, which is a very bad area here, and it's gang territory here in L.A. area.
	And she goes, and we go down there, and we get with these underprivileged youth, and it's just so eye-opening, and it connects you to what's important, and you make these very real relationships with kids that Don't have anyone.
	Maybe their dad died in a gang shootout and their mother's working three jobs and is never home to take care of them.
	They don't want to go down a wrong path.
	They need good people in their life to make relationships with.
	We do good things for them.
	It's kind of like a big brother, big sister program.
	She's going on and on. And the woman interrupts her from the back of the room, and she goes, oh, well, I could never send my child there.
	That's not safe. And the speaker goes, look, like, Beyonce has been there.
	Like, there's whatever you think about the Hollywood elite.
	She's dropping names like there's no tomorrow.
	Anybody in Hollywood who's got a lot on the line with their little kids is even going there.
	It's as safe as safe can be.
	My goodness, you could die in the bathtub, slipping and falling.
	Life is not guaranteed to anybody.
	Tomorrow is not guaranteed to no one.
	This woman was just, oh, I could never do that.
	In my head, I didn't say it out loud, but I looked at her.
	I think I actually did say something.
	I was like, I was polite about it, but what I felt like saying is what I'm going to say to you is just, you're the problem in your child's life.
	You are the helicopter parent.
	These kids have never been exposed to real life, in the least, because you over-sheltered them, over-helicoptered them, And now they don't know their elbow from a hole in the ground and they'll fall for anything because they get some charismatic dude on campus and it's a trendy thing to go LGBTQIA +, and, you know, have a drag queen, like, do a rally and your kids are off and running because they don't understand that's the communist agenda.
	They don't understand what's important.
	They don't get it.
	You need to show your kids, not lecture them.
	Show, don't tell. Picture's worth a thousand words and being there is worth a million words.
	And if I could say one thing to the parents in every First World country, it is take your children to the places that you never thought you'd take them, especially now, because I never had to lecture my daughter after that.
	She'd say something like, I need a new backpack.
	And I'd look at her and I'd say, is it a need?
	And she's like, no.
	It's a lot. The only thing you need in life, this child came home after five months living out of a suitcase and was like, we really only need water if you're living in the tropics.
	I'm like, yeah, water and a teeny tiny bit of food.
	You don't need clothing. You don't need shelter.
	I mean, in a non-tropical zone, you need clothing and shelter.
	But in Thailand and Hawaii, you don't even need clothing and shelter.
	Now, you might be arrested for public indecency, but legit, it just reorders your entire priority And, you know, yeah, she did her 15 things that she was thankful for that Thanksgiving were things like clean water, access to education, especially because I'm a girl.
	I think mom, dad, grandma, grandpa were number 14, 15.
	It looked like Maslow's hierarchy of, you know, from psychology 101 of the things that are important that you need to have checked off the box before your brain is free to think with higher theories because if you're starving and everyday problem solving your survival, you're not going to Find all the higher things this existence has to offer.
	And I worried. You know, my husband and I were like, we might be paying a big therapy bill 10 years from now.
	Now that it's been 10 years exactly, best thing I could have done for my kid.
	Honestly, I think he'd be paying the big therapy bill the other way around.
	Because I think for people that are, I guess, traumatized by certain things that are ultimately, you know, especially like, I think you look at a lot of these people that are doing, you know, with the sexualization of children, you know, there's a lot of mental health issues there.
	There's a lot of therapy there to be had.
	Yeah, well, you know, there's an interesting statistic from times of war.
	The rates of bipolar, schizophrenia, and straight-up psychosis, and even seizures, the rates of anything that basically could be wrong with your brain, whether it's organic brain or psychological, you know, whatever, goes way down.
	Neurotic, psychotic disease, it all goes way down during war.
	Why? You got bigger fish to fry.
	You don't have time to be overly anxious and worried about whether the virus is going to kill you or, you know, whether your kid is going to be propositioned waiting outside their junior high by a stranger danger.
	Like, hello, a bomb is falling on London.
	You know, you need to get your kids off to the countryside because we're at war with Hitler.
	Like, the rates of all of that goes down to Zippo.
	And it's because people are busy Surviving and forming ties with other human beings that matter.
	And that is really the name of the game.
	There are big fish we have to fry.
	Epstein, sex trafficking, politicians who are only capable of being blackmailed in today's universe because there's one crime you can blackmail them with.
	Not cheating on their spouse or their taxes or with their business or the IRS. No, you can blackmail them with a Hunter Biden laptop crime.
	You're having sex with babies.
	That will make America not want to vote with you.
	So if you look around and why, like, why are all of our politicians sitting there impotent?
	Probably that's why.
	Because they're being held hostage, essentially, by being, yeah, yeah.
	They bought sex for the kid.
	And somebody's got evidence of it.
	I mean, I totally agree with you 100%.
	I mean, how did this many scummy people that are willing to do, I mean, pedophilia and things like that, make it into power?
	I mean, has this been something that's been organized for the last...
	I mean, it just seems like it would take so much...
	Every single person that we need to come to our rescue is somehow blackmailed, you know?
	They crave power, so they self-select into the political realm in many cases.
	They're narcissistic tendencies.
	A lot of people, the world over, this is not a politician or elite problem.
	There's sexual perversion the world over.
	It is, I mean, that's why sex trafficking is having its heyday right now, and it's the fastest growing crime in the world.
	So you find it everywhere.
	Right? But it's way more prevalent.
	I mean, now you can... We didn't used to have airplanes.
	Now you can get on a plane to Cambodia and go buy a seven-year-old if that's what you're into.
	And it's hard to do in Chicago or California.
	Even if you don't want to go to Cambodia, guess what you can do?
	You can wait for your wife to go out of town to her business conference.
	You send your kids down the street to the Girl Scout slumber party.
	And you get your cell phone out and you order up Domino's pizza.
	And you get your Uber driver to deliver some beer because you're out of that.
	And guess what? You order up a girl.
	You go on the back page, they're out of business now, but there's Craigslist, there's other sites.
	You go on there and you order up a girl.
	And the local pimple, you don't even need to go to the wrong side of town.
	You don't need to risk going over the tracks, having a cop bust you by leaning in your car while you're leaning out asking the prostitute and her little thigh-high whatever and her six-inch heels how much for this or that.
	You don't need to do that. You don't need to risk that.
	You can just have her come to your house. Very easy.
	Technology. The computer.
	Explosion of sex slavery.
	Trading of porn online.
	I mean, you used to have to take hard copy pictures, have somebody develop them who had a dark room that wasn't the save-on down the road and gonna out you for having pictures of, you know.
	All of this stuff is so easy now that you've got hard drives and the ability to transmit photos.
	And what it has done is created an entire generation, multiple generations of people who maybe would have stayed in their lane.
	They were curious.
	They liked children, but they just sat and watched.
	And now, super easy for them to actually act on their urges.
	And so it's suffering this renaissance, this heyday.
	But it's not just among the power brokers and the elite and the politicians.
	It's among everybody. And you have bad eggs there just like you have bad eggs here.
	But those with evil agendas, the Hitlers of the world, they go out looking.
	I mean, it's... If you've ever read the book Gift of Fear by Gavin DeBecker, he interviews the one that gets away from the Ted Bundys of the world.
	There's one girl who escaped Ted Bundy.
	There's one guy who escaped Dahmer and ran out before he ended up with a skull in the freezer.
	And he goes through there, Gavin DeBecker does, and he figures out How they got away.
	And typically the story is they overrode their gut instinct and got in the elevator, got in the car, didn't run away from the dark alley that they were feeling uneasy in.
	And then they got in the clutches of the bad guy.
	And then the bad guy said, okay, you just wait there and I'll be right back and life's going to be hunky-dory.
	And their lizard brain was like, no, it's not.
	He lied to you the first time when he got in the elevator, said he was going to help you into your apartment with the groceries.
	He's lying again when he says, you just wait there.
	Oh, and he just closed the door and the window so that if you've cried for help in this hot August night in your apartment in Chicago, nobody would hear you.
	And literally, that was the story.
	One of these women, the guy went, he He lied to her in the same way.
	Her brain put it together without being able to give her a chapter in verse.
	So he goes down the hallway to get a butcher knife to come back and murder her.
	She follows him naked, having been raped five times already, down the hallway.
	When he makes a right in the kitchen, she makes a left, goes into her apartment hallway, sneaks down the hallway to a neighbor very quietly, naked, stark raving, naked and bleeding, knocks on the door and is like, let me in and let me call the cops.
	And when he unpackages Their stories, what he decided was your lizard brain is not just some amorphous gut instinct that's giving you a bad vibe that you should act on.
	It's taking a million different data points that your logical frontal lobe Cannot write you a book on because it doesn't have time because by the time it gets you the book of all the things that didn't make sense that this guy said to you You'll be dead and six feet under in some shallow grave in a forest somewhere So instead it's just like run and you're getting the hair on the back your neck is going run and so you do and you escaped Ted Bundy but It's fascinating.
	I got off on that for a reason.
	I'm trying to figure out the why.
	But he comes back and he talks about, you know, you need to listen to your gut instinct and these power brokers.
	Oh, I know. He says in there, you're better off if you break down on the side of the road.
	Jumping into the middle of traffic and flagging your car down.
	Because the odds that you are going to flag down Ted Bundy are one in a million.
	But if you wait on the side of the road as a woman in a dark night for a car to stop, the odds are drastically higher that the guy pulling over to help you is actually there to hurt you because they select their prey.
	And that is how the power brokers work.
	They look for the politicians that are a little shady, a little dirty.
	That are making the off-color joke at dinner, because an off-color joke is a sign he might do off-color things.
	And then they invite you to a party. I had a client, and I'll make this, I'll wrap this up so you can get onto whatever else your day is, but I had a client in the 90s, they owned a mail list, so they would sell lists of names of fishermen to Bass Pro Fish Shop, so they could market the catalogs to people who were interested.
	But their competitor was trying to do away with their business, and the competitor was a sleazeball, and he would cannibalize the list.
	So he'd take little old lady names that liked to knit, and if he didn't have a big enough list to sell to Joann's Fabrics, he would put girls who'd bought Victoria's Secret underwear, who were 20-year-old hot somethings, Into the list, but it's all a bunch of girls names and the buyer of the list doesn't know.
	He's like, why is this list of people that I should be selling to little old ladies not performing?
	And when he would pull the string, he'd go back to my client's competitor and he'd be like, yo, dude, you sold me.
	It was supposed to be an old lady list.
	It's a bunch of Fredericks of Hollywood, Victoria's Secret buyers, and they're not converting very well for the old lady shit.
	We're trying to sell the old ladies.
	You defrauded me. I'm going to rat you out to the cops.
	Give me my money back. No, I'm not going to give you your money.
	Fine, then I'll go to the cops.
	And the guy was such a sleazeball, he'd be like, no, you're not.
	Take a gander at this.
	This was before cell phones.
	First thing he would do when he got a new client, or a potential new client, he'd invite him to his home in the Hollywood Hills, and he'd offer them whatever they wanted.
	Blow, heroin, coke, meth.
	And people, kids, boys, girls, animals, whatever they were into, and they thought they were rolling in, hey, oh, my new bender, he understands me, and they would partake, and he'd be rolling video 24-7 on him, and he would wait, and then he would blackmail them into submission.
	And when our lawsuit hit the deck, I'm deposing people left and right in depositions.
	Everybody in the industry knew how this guy rolled.
	Nobody outed him because they were all being blackmailed.
	Yep. You know, I grew up in Hollywood.
	I can tell you, what you just said is 100% true.
	I've experienced it myself.
	I've seen it myself. Fortunately, I've had the discernment to know not to fall into those traps, but a lot of people do.
	There's a systematic way.
	I can verify from experience that this is something that happens in Hollywood all the time, and I think Hollywood mirrors politics a lot of the time.
	Oh, for sure. There's a huge overlap between the child sex slave trade in California that services the Hollywood elite.
	You know, Heidi Fleiss's little black book was full of two types of people, Hollywood elite and politicians, right?
	And I'm sure Epstein's is no different if we ever get a full rundown of all of the names that he and Uh, Maxwell we're running, but like, and it goes through the various highest levels.
	I mean, but, but these people are not going to arrest themselves.
	I mean, my husband and I, early on, it hopped onto the Megan's law website.
	I didn't already say this today, did I? I don't think I told you this.
	It was like early days of internet and early days of Megan's Law.
	And they had set up this system where you could go onto the website, put in your address, and see how many sex offenders on the registry were living around you.
	It would populate with little red dots.
	So you could see, are they on my road?
	Are they like a mile away?
	Like, where are they? So we put in our address.
	And I live in SoCal in Orange County and there's a freeway near my house and we live on one side of the freeway up in the Foothills area.
	On the other side of the freeway is a not very nice area, right?
	It's not Compton, but it's not nice either.
	And my husband puts our address in and he's very naive at the time.
	Like I had already studied sexual violence.
	I'd prosecuted cases for the LADA's office on an internship.
	You know, I mean, I was savvy to the ways of sexual violence and sex traffickers and pedophilia.
	So he pops in our address, and all these little red dots come up on the bad side of the freeway.
	And then you see the freeway, and then you see the couple red dots indicating sex offenders here and there on our side, and then they're fewer and further between.
	And as soon as you hit the hilly area, where some of the nicer houses are, there's no dots at all in our area at the time.
	And my husband goes, oh, praise God, like, you know, we're not living near any sex offenders.
	And I looked at, we were sitting literally at the computer I'm at right now, I mean, five generations ago probably, but I look over it and we're side by side right here and I go, are you kidding me right now?
	He goes, what? And I go, Oh, baby, we're living right next door to sex offenders.
	The only difference is they are the doctors and judges and cops and lawyers and prosecutors.
	They're not going to arrest and prosecute themselves.
	They're going to arrest and prosecute people on the other side of the freeway.
	But they are everywhere.
	And if we want to unbundle and get to rights on what's going on with our politics and get it back in the right lane, We need to simultaneously tackle the human trafficking problem because it is what is the only blackmailable crime now and that is why so many people are silent when they should be active because they're being blackmailed and nobody cares if they cheated on their wife for their taxes.
	So they've done something with a kid they could be prosecuted for and that is the crime.
	And we need to teach our boys better.
	You need to teach your little guys and your girls, but mainly the boys.
	Let's be real. Girls are mainly the victims in this trade and boys are mainly the perpetrators.
	Don't buy people for sex!
	Even if you're backpacking in Amsterdam with your fraternity after graduation and you're getting peer pressured into it, you do not buy women of any age for sex.
	You're buying and humanity not the same, and you don't buy them to work in your field.
	Like, hello? At no point is buying a human being an okay thing, right?
	You have to pay a living wage.
	You don't traffic them for labor trafficking, for sex trafficking.
	And when we get rid of the demand, We start getting a result.
	And the demand, by the way, it is just crazy.
	Did you ever hear about St.
	Petersburg, Florida and their little sex trafficking problem?
	No, I didn't. Okay, so the thing they did to handle their sex trafficking problem is the same thing that I've used so successfully in the Freedom Fight.
	And I want to share with your listeners because it's things they can do.
	St. Pete's, I think it was early 2000s, was having a hell of a problem with men buying underage prostitutes.
	Which, by the way, that's not actually a thing.
	You cannot legally consent to sex if you're under 18, so how can you be a prostitute?
	But anyway, they're buying underage women, girls, for sex.
	And they decided they were going to do some stings and some busts, but instead of just arresting the men, once they busted the guys who were doing the bad stuff, they were going to put their name and face on a big bullboard.
	Billboard that said, Joe Blow was arrested for X, Y, and Z, you know, sex trafficking, solicitation crimes against minors, you know, on thus and such a date.
	And they put his name up on the billboard, which was step one.
	But then they went, oh, that was brilliant, but the next part's the really brilliant part.
	Some flippin' genius decided they were gonna send out a letter to the guy's wife.
	And we call the sex buyers in the industry the John, right, the buyer.
	So it was Dear Mrs.
	John, you know the name of whoever.
	Dear Mrs. Jones, whatever the guy's name is.
	You probably don't know this, but on Saturday night in a bad area of St.
	Petersburg on the wrong side of the tracks, your husband was arrested for doing X, Y, and Z and buying underage girls for sex.
	And I were guessing you don't know this, but you might want to know this.
	And furthermore, you might want to route yourself to the nearest STD clinic here in town.
	Here's some names of the STD clinics and guess yourself...
	Tested for AIDS and syphilis and gonorrhea and chlamydia so you don't die.
	Sincerely, your local health officer.
	That dropped the incidence of all trafficking, underage and overage prostitution, and trafficking in St.
	Petersburg, Florida, over flippin' night.
	Like, overnight, the stat dropped 24.5%, almost a full quarter.
	It works. Name and shame programs work.
	Why we continue to do lawsuits in these blue states, we've never once gotten out of a war with a lawsuit or a legislative move.
	They don't work in the blue states right now 99 out of 100 times or sometimes 100 out of 100 times.
	All these donors are donating to all these nonprofits and I'm not here to throw stones at these nonprofits.
	I'm working with them. I'm saying if you're going to do a lawsuit your best bet is to file it in Texas and these would be the claims but I'm telling you don't do it.
	Yeah. And yet we keep, it's the definition of insanity, throwing more time and money after things that are categorically, statistically, at this point, not working.
	I thought they weren't going to work at the beginning of 2020.
	I told everybody that, but I was willing to be wrong.
	Unfortunately, I wasn't wrong.
	They didn't work. And the donors are sending tens of millions of dollars cumulatively to do the things that don't work.
	And I'm like, why are you doing that?
	A name and shame program works great.
	That's what I did with the vaccine passports in Orange County.
	I made a TV ad. We named and shamed our board into dropping the passport plan.
	You could do this, too.
	In fact, I mean, you know, I have to give some information.
	We interview a lot of people.
	One of the gentlemen I spoke to recently regarding this issue with our judicial branch, because, I mean, the thing's haywire.
	I have a lot of theories why it's haywire.
	It's not a functioning system.
	And in fact, I could go a lot more harsher than that.
	You know, I think it is a system that promotes crimes by the elite.
	Let's skip that part of the issue.
	But what he was saying is that going through the courts is foolish because essentially it's a monopoly.
	The criminals aren't going to arrest themselves.
	And really the only way to hold judges, lawyers, politicians accountable is to do name and shame campaigns.
	Like start a website, if the guy's name is Joe Blow and he's a bad judge, you make JoeBlow.com.
	And he said that through that method, you have institutions like the bar that would normally not enforce a path of justice, now having to enforce it because of these name and shame campaigns.
	I mean, what do you think about kind of escalating into that level where you're actually getting websites, you're letting the SEO do its thing.
	100% agree. 100% agree.
	One other technique. This is kind of cool.
	Geofenced area. I love giving this kind of information to our audience because you're right.
	Everybody has to be part of this.
	This is like a war that we're in.
	And nonviolent methods like this that are within the bounds of the law, I think that people need to know about, right?
	So he was saying you geofence a person's area and you start throwing ads in that area.
	So all their neighbors, the people that they shop with, they all know, let's say, you know, a certain judge is, you know, hired an underage prostitute.
	There's information out there where, you know, you have receipts, you just put it out there and you let everybody around them know.
	I'm 100% in agreement with that, and I'm so glad there's some other person out there saying what I'm saying.
	I looked around, beginning of 2020, and I was like, we ain't going to litigate and legislate this to death.
	And lots of very big nonprofits who've done traditionally very good work are like, oh, we're going to raise $10 million and do a bunch of lawsuits.
	I'm like, okay.
	And then it didn't work. I am not just a lawyer.
	I've litigated. I'm saying this as a litigator.
	Litigators are the ones who go to court.
	I was doing it literally, I skipped high school, got into Yale Law School and every other law school in town when I was 17 years old.
	I was representing Fortune 100, 500 companies.
	Those are the biggest companies in the world at the age of 21.
	I have now been, I'm 51.
	I have litigated for three decades on and off, but for the best and the brightest.
	And we weren't paid When you're paying $1,500 an hour in today's money to your lawyer, you're not getting the C-minus student out of the Knights Law School.
	You are paying that kind of money as the biggest company on the planet in your field to get a product.
	So it didn't fly for us to go back to our client and be like, that legal theory is not going to work or you can't do that.
	They didn't want to hear that. They're like, I'll go pay some other law firm even more money to find a way to do, to get out of the problem or to do whatever.
	So first of all, from a legal side, even as a litigator, I was trained to not do what the normal litigators do.
	We were working for the best and the brightest and they expected creative outside the box handlings to their problems.
	So that was my training.
	Then I spent the last 10 years part-time living in Asia working under communist governments or basically communist governments.
	You really think rolling into Cambodia or Thailand when they've got a corruption of four or five on a scale of one to five of their police and prosecutors that those guys are going to help you save the sex slaves when they're the ones who are providing the bouncer services to the brothel at night?
	No! They're not going to help you and yet You're still there to get good work done.
	So the name of the game becomes, how do you get stuff done despite the government, not because or with the government?
	So, and I'm not, again, I'm not trying to sing my own praises.
	I've spent three and a half years being zero funded.
	I have made zero money. The last time my husband and I had a paycheck from his healthcare company was March 14th of 2020.
	I have a nonprofit. It's called freedomfighternation.org.
	You know what I've done for the last three and a half years?
	Zero lawsuits, zero legislative moves because I live in California.
	They don't work. I could have said this and did say it at the outset.
	I watched all the other ones in California spend $30 million, $300 million.
	I don't even know what they spent total.
	I did do a statistical analysis.
	I went all the way through all the lawsuits they had filed.
	0% of them are working for the most part.
	Maybe 1% on a good day.
	So your friend who told you that, absolutely.
	But you could even go more low tech.
	Go buy a billboard.
	You can get this kind of stuff made for 50 bucks.
	Little placard at FedEx.
	Have your kid, if your husband doesn't know how to do it or you don't know how to do it, pull some graphics online, borrow the images, whatever, from the sites that sell them for $10, and then get yourself a poster, go buy out the Walmart bullhorn section, go get all your soccer moms who are also pissed off that their kids are going to have to listen to Story Hour at the hands and feet of a drag queen or whatever is going on, the mask mandate in your school again, and go sit in front of their property.
	When the health officer mask mandated Orange County, I didn't waste time with a lawsuit.
	I knew we wouldn't have won it. She was well within her rights to do that.
	Was it wrong to do? Of course.
	Was it legal to do? Yes. They're not always the same thing.
	I figured out, this is the recipe.
	You figure out the bad plan, you figure out who's pushing it.
	Bad plan, mask mandate.
	Who's pushing it? The health officer in Orange County who was just installed in March of 2020.
	They pulled the old guy out, put a new girl in.
	That's kind of weird. Who is she?
	I don't know her name. You know what I did?
	I called a bunch of PIs, retired PIs I knew, private eyes.
	I said, I want to know this woman better than I know my own husband and myself.
	Yeah. I want to know everything there is to know.
	They came back to me. They said, you know what she was doing the first eight years after medical school?
	I said, no, tell me. They go, she was working at her mother's methadone clinic in Utah, handing out suboxone prescriptions to heroin addicts.
	Wow. Is that illegal?
	No. Does it play well with the soccer mommies in Orange County?
	Oh, hell no. I wrote a little letter to my Board of Supes.
	I said, I think you fell down on the due diligence before you hired this woman.
	But I saved the good stuff.
	I said, I'll tell you more at the board meeting on Tuesday.
	And then I got on, you can see it on my website, LeeDendis.com, under my events page.
	I gave them hell.
	I outed all of who she was there.
	She got so scared. Mid-meeting, in the middle of my three-minute rant, she stood up, left the meeting, went home.
	Guess what? I knew where she lived.
	And I let her address out on public TV. You have to make sure you're allowed to do that.
	Some jurisdictions say you cannot out the address of a public official, so do your research.
	But it was perfectly legal.
	And then I got a group of people.
	It wasn't even that many. 15, 20 people.
	We all went and stood in front of our house.
	Because it's one thing to stand in front of the board.
	They don't like to be chased to where they live.
	And we held our signs and we got our bullhorns.
	And then I saw she had a little camera over her gate.
	And I said, I didn't know, ironically, after the two PIs that I stuck on you that you had little kids.
	But I'm a mom like you are and I know exactly what those wet sandy buckets and those little tiny rollerblades and scooters are for.
	Looks like you have a two-year-old and a four-year-old.
	You better make damn sure, B-I-T-C-H, that you are basking those kids from their little bitty eyeballs all the way down to their clavicle because if you're not I will be standing here 24-7 video recording and putting it on blast.
	You're gonna do this shit. What is good for the goose is good for the gander and don't you ever forget it.
	And by the way, let me tell you what I didn't have time to say on the microphone.
	I now know that your mommy was run away from by your daddy.
	He left her in the middle of the sticks of Utah in Mormon country and that you were so upset you did your term paper in high school and college on men who leave their wives and your mother, who's a medical doctor that you worked at for that methadone clinic, was so damn upset she hired both a private eye and a psychic to track him down.
	Give me a week, my dear.
	You won't want to know my name.
	Oh, wow, wow. Gangster.
	Gangster style. And everybody, including Peggy Hall.
	Peggy Hall, who I love, we get along great.
	She's the one who looks like me in Orange County.
	She went up after that, and she made it very clear that she was not the one doing that.
	She was like, I am not the one.
	We are not the one sitting in front of people's houses in Orange County.
	I'm like, darn right, you're not. I'm the one doing it.
	I know who's there. And if you had told me After getting into Yale Law School and working for the biggest companies on the planet that my crowning achievement 30 years into my legal career would have been holding a bullhorn standing on some public miscreant sidewalk terrorizing her because she was terrorizing my kid first.
	I will not start the fight, but I will finish it.
	Don't you forget. And that's how you've got to play.
	Those are the rules of the game. And I will fight it on your terms.
	You play fair. I've got a working court system.
	I have judges who are not changing their party affiliation from Republican to Democrat during that same time.
	I'll go to court and I'll litigate.
	But if you're not going to play fair, if the courts are bought off, if the judges are so scared they're coming out as Democrats when they've been lifelong Republicans, that guy's not going to vote for me.
	I'll play it like I play it in Cambodia.
	I'll name and shame you until you run away.
	And guess what? She did.
	She resigned. And everybody's like, what'd you do?
	I'm like, it's simple. Find the plan.
	Find the person pushing it.
	Find their bad stuff.
	Even if it's not illegal, it just didn't look good that she'd been a methadone-riding whore, right?
	And I go and put it on blast, and the good people run her out of dodge.
	That's all you need to do.
	And guess what? You know how much money that cost me?
	Zero. Yeah.
	Now making the TV ad with the Holocaust survivor cost me a quarter million dollars because CNN and Fox and MSNBC charged me to run it.
	But these things are things that work.
	We should be doing them almost exclusively and very little litigation and legislation.
	And if we want to win the war, we got to start funding the people who are doing the things that work.
	The guy you had on, I don't know his name.
	I want to get it from you at the end of this show.
	And your listeners should be funding him to train them how to do this.
	As well, they should be funding people like me.
	It doesn't have to be me. It could be the other guy if you like him more.
	But we need to be doing what works.
	And this works. Time and time again.
	You know, it's funny that you mentioned that because I just recently saw Nathaniel Pawlowski, the son of Artur Pawlowski.
	I met him!
	I met him for the first time ever Friday at the Clay Clark event.
	Yeah, he's the son of the pastor who stood up and said, out you damn Nazis and communists, out of my church in Canada.
	Yeah, and his school was trying to kick him out because he wouldn't get jabbed.
	And he went to the dean and said, I'm going to sue you.
	And the dean said, well, you know, you could sue the school, whatever.
	You know, we have lawyers on staff.
	He's like, no, no, no. I am going to sue you.
	Personally. Personally, and that's one approach I've heard where you sue the men.
	The men, you know, sometimes playing a role as such and such.
	The Dean of, you know, XY and Z University.
	And that's really the way to scare them.
	Like really go the bare knuckles approach, for lack of a better term.
	It is. And again, you know, I was raised in polite society.
	My mother told me to not say something that's not nice unless, you know, I was raised with all the same kindergarten rules you were.
	You do not win war with kindergarten rules.
	We're at war right now. And it's a totally Different ballgame if they're gonna do polite you do polite and we have a nice polite debate if they're going to try to suffocate my child By putting a mask on her face it drops her o2 level to 82% That is where I go to by the way when I put a regular blue mask on my face I don't know if I've got deficient lungs I instantly go to 82% you know what that is I'm married to a doctor I'll tell you what that is you can go to OSHA's website or at least you used to be able to right now and That is where not just brain fog
	ensues, so it's not that you have a headache after wearing a mask from the mask.
	No, you're low oxygen.
	You're actually losing brain cells.
	There is a woman that I quoted in my letters to the school boards.
	She's a neurobiologist, physicist, MD, you name it, more credentials than I could shake a stick at, out of Europe.
	And she said, you are causing permanent neural death when you get even a tiny bit of oxygen deprivation, which, this is the scary part, which is not remediated once you start breathing normal full oxygen again so don't tell me that you just don't have the the balls or the ovaries or whatever to stand up to yourself you are killing your child's neural connections in your brain in their brain in their hippocampus And they will never get them back.
	You are causing permanent brain damage to your child.
	And OSHA goes through that on their website.
	It says, literally the paragraph says, and I quote, human beings must breathe oxygen to survive.
	If they don't get enough oxygen, X, Y, and Z happens.
	Brain fog, blah, blah, blah, headaches, dizziness, which in and of itself, if you're a target worker on a ladder putting toilet paper on the top shelf, that can be fatal if you pass out and fall off the ladder.
	Followed by systemic organ failure and cardiac standstill.
	You know what cardiac standstill is?
	It's a flippin' heart attack that kills you.
	You know what happened to Savannah Lay and Jessica Lay?
	Savannah is the 16-year-old daughter of Jessica Lay in Oregon, whose governor, Kate Brown, and the school, and the coach mandated the mask, went, had basketball practice, couldn't breathe, asked her coach to take down her mask.
	He said no. Then he relented, said, well, you can go in the locker room.
	She didn't make it to the locker room.
	Passed out in the door of the locker room.
	Face on the floor. Girlfriend finds her coming out of a toilet stall.
	A couple minutes later, lifts Jessica or Savannah's face to the mirror to see if she can fog a mirror.
	She can't. No pulse, no heartbeat.
	She's clinically dead and has been for two minutes.
	So then every coach in a freaking five-mile radius who told her she couldn't take her mask off is now on their damn knees doing CPR, trying to revive her.
	To no avail. It's now been another seven minutes.
	A passing cop in a patrol car who heard the Heard the cry went out, hit her with a Narcan unit, which is what they use for heroin overdoses, got her back, then she passed out, died again in the back of the ambulance, goes to the hospital.
	The hospital doctor's like, you didn't hear from me.
	We just did a full workup on your daughter after we got her back the second time.
	There's nothing wrong with your child other than she died twice from lack of oxygen.
	You know what should have happened?
	Some freaking prosecutor with a set of balls in Oregon should have arrested the principal All the coaches, the superintendent of the health officer of the school, the nurses at the school, the superintendent of the county,
	the health officer of the county, the health officer of the state, and the governor, and prosecuted them for frickin' manslaughter three, which is when you're so stupid that you do things like getting in your car and driving drunk, even though you have already five DUIs to your name, and killing a three-year-old.
	You didn't mean to kill him, but it's still called murder, or it's called manslaughter.
	That is what should happen, and all we need is one red state to do one prosecution like that, and just like your conversation with Pulaski's kid, all of a sudden all the evildoers are going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, now I'm personally on the hook, either with my money in a civil suit or criminally, and I could go to jail because I actually killed a kid with my mask mandate.
	That starts changing the tide.
	But we need to start doing the things that work.
	And I wrote letters to these guys when they were, we had a French school in, um, LA that mandated the Vax.
	And I had a friend whose kid went to it.
	I wrote them the hottest letter ever.
	I said, you're the French school.
	You should know your European politics.
	Hello? Like, did you skip the Holocaust chapter?
	Let me remind you, Mr.
	Principal, and your board, and your insurance company, Who insures your school?
	These vaccines are not safe.
	They cannot be mandated under federal, international regulations, federal regulations, or even state regulations without informed consent.
	You're in violation of criminal laws and state laws on the books, federal and the whole nine years, do the whole thing.
	And then I said, but let me on a more personal note tell you where this is going.
	Our government doesn't have a great track record.
	You ever heard of Operation Ranch Hand, where we sprayed down our GI forces in Vietnam with these safe, you know, Agent Orange?
	Yeah, not so safe. What about thalidomide?
	And I put pictures of the thalidomide babies with the little fingers sticking out their shoulder socket and rolling around in the swimming pools from the 50s and 60s.
	I'm like, you want to mandate this?
	For all you know, this is what's going to happen to these kids once they hit puberty and reproduce.
	You don't know. And Pfizer doesn't know because they've not done more than a single second of clinical studies.
	You are guinea-pigging your kids.
	It's against the Nuremberg Code.
	It is against federal and state law.
	And don't think for a hot second that I won't be coming after you personally and your board of supervisors.
	And by the way, as a private school, you are basically in the position of Macy's.
	You rely on the money your parents pay you.
	And those people are going to start fleeing and you're going to die on the vine because they are going to leave en masse to the schools that aren't mandating.
	They rolled back their vaccine mandate, took one hot letter and some pictures of ugly thalidomide babies.
	But you have to call it out and you have to hit it in a brass tacks kind of way.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	I mean, I think you've got to teach a class on how to do this because people need to understand what they're capable of doing should they take the same tone and the stand that you're taking.
	I mean, it's really amazing hearing you talk about this stuff.
	And I want people to understand.
	People are like, oh, you know, you're so lucky you're a lawyer.
	You know how to do this. I'm not doing a damn thing I learned in law school.
	I'm a pissed off soccer mom that doesn't want my kid to die.
	I'm no different than you.
	I have the same skills that you do.
	I have a computer keyboard, a pen, and a mouth.
	Maybe I'm a little more eloquent because I had years of debate in theater, but it's not the eloquence that is winning when I win.
	It is the hard-hitting passion and certainty.
	And I am here to tell you, I didn't know my own power.
	Before now. I am grateful to the last few years because if you hit it hard enough with your pen, which is your new sword, and your tongue, sometimes simply by being convicted of what is right and unwilling to budge and calling it out and telling them, and you need to follow up. If you're going to make their life hell, You tell them you're going to do it, and then you do it.
	And then when they correct, you thank them for correcting.
	Yeah, you don't love them. I'm not friends with anybody, but when my board does the right thing, I write them a little letter that says, thank you very much for doing the right thing.
	They're like, Lee, you're sending a letter to the enemy.
	I go, no, no, no, no. I'm training the enemy.
	This is Pavlovian training.
	They do the wrong thing. You hit them with, proverbially speaking, a stick that hurts them.
	You go in front of their house. You make a scarlet letter A on their head or their family's head.
	When they do the right thing, you say thank you.
	And pretty soon they start going, oh, that was painful.
	This is not so painful. But yeah, a lot of what I've gone over I cover in my book.
	I take the lessons I learned in Southeast Asia where the government is not going to help you do the right thing.
	You're fighting against a genocidal war over there.
	And I take the lessons that are a transferable skill set and I give them to people in a way that is safe so you don't have to go to these brothel towns and do it the hard way like I did.
	And it has color photos of my work.
	You know, you get to see things you don't ever see in these other books.
	But as well, I really want to do a podcast.
	Clay Clark's been telling me for years, you need a podcast.
	People need to understand how you think.
	Because there's pearls of wisdom there that other people just, they haven't had the same experience.
	They've never worked in a communist country.
	Or they didn't grow up with an insane parent.
	And I'm like, okay. So, I don't know exactly when.
	But sometime in September, my husband and I have decided to take the plunge.
	It's either lead the freedom fight.
	Because I've lived for three and a half years with zero income and I'm not independently wealthy.
	So that's a go nowhere plan.
	So I'm at the end of my bank account.
	I either go back to working a day job and wish you all well, which I don't really want to do, or I start to monetize myself with books and podcasts and fundraisers.
	So my final thought today on this show probably is if you're inclined to want to donate to people who have actually gotten the ball down into the You know into the goalposts so to speak over the last few years these are the types of things I've been doing if they resonate my nonprofit is freedomfighternation.org my new website personally is Lee Dundas that's how you spell my name Lee Dundas.com both of those two websites have a pop-up and a separate part on my book and you can buy my book
	if you buy it on Amazon that's fine I get no money at all from the sale of it I break even and pay the publisher if you buy it from me You're paying a little bit more, but I'm actually taking the money and using it to fight for your kids' freedom and your freedom.
	And that's what I would like to stay doing.
	And if you want to hold me a fundraiser in Nebraska with all the powerful people you know or even just the soccer moms, I will be there in a New York minute.
	Just shoot me an email.
	My email is leigh.esq at gmail.com or you can reach out to me through the website.
	But these are the things I want to dedicate my life to over the next 12 months.
	I want to get back into more active fighting for freedom because it's kind of taking a backseat to, sorry, the human trafficking fight.
	I want to be doing both the freedom fight and the trafficking because they're so interwoven.
	And then I also really want to be educating people how they can fight their corner.
	No one person is going to save you.
	If he comes back, maybe.
	But until then, we've got to hold the fort.
	And Kennedy, not going to save you.
	Trump, not going to save you.
	Kristi Noem, Tucker, DeSantis, Sweden, Ecuador, the places that didn't lock down.
	There's not enough.
	This is not going to be World War II, where finally the white knight of FDR and Churchill rode in and got Hitler to go bye-bye.
	This war we are fighting is because we didn't fully learn the lesson of the Holocaust.
	Which is, we, the good Germans in the equation, as it were, we are the ones who need to stand up and say, no more, not on my watch.
	I am the hero I have been waiting for, and I believe with every fiber of my being.
	That we are the heroes we've been waiting for.
	I know it. We all have so much more power than we ever thought we had.
	And if we do what Margaret Mead said, never doubt a small group of concerned citizens can change the world for indeed they are the only ones who ever have.
	We've got this. It's in the bag.
	And I know we're going to win. We always do.
	But let's limit the carnage, shall we?
	Let's get our kids back to the life they should be leading in this great country, playing and enjoying themselves and not being locked down and mandated eight ways to Sunday.
	They deserve more and better than the last few years.
	And we have the power to give it to them if we just do the right thing and do what's in our hearts and step up and stand up.
	And that's why I named my book Just Stand Up.
	That is awesome, Lee. Thank you so much.
	I mean, by the way, we'd love to have you at America Happens with your show.
	I got a great idea that I'd love to pass by you.
	But, you know, this is what you're doing.
	It's almost like the handbook to how to survive the future and win the future.
	And that's what we need.
	We need people to understand how to deal.
	You know, it is a war.
	It is a war on many fronts.
	And it's a war that nobody out there in terms of government, you know, your officials, they're not going to take care of business.
	And so it's up to us, really.
	It's on us.
	We are the warriors on this battlefield, and we have a great legacy.
	Our founding fathers, one of my great-great-great-great-grandpas was Patrick Henry, who said, give me liberty or give me death.
	They handed us a beautiful gift.
	This nation's been alive for a very long time.
	I don't believe it has to succumb like all the great societies of old did.
	I believe that the men and women who fought for our country from the time of our founding fathers all the way through all the world wars, including my grandpa who stood on the West Virginia as I was sinking, I believe those men answered a higher call.
	And I remember my dad, who I didn't always get along with.
	He was the more crazy one in the family.
	He'd look at me as a little girl, you know, in Orange County, in L.A. County, where we were growing up, and he'd be like...
	He was Navy, and his daddy was Navy, and my husband's Army.
	But he would say to me, you know, if you ever are required to stand up for this country, you answer that call.
	And I would look at him like...
	You know we inherited this thing that we didn't and I include myself didn't even appreciate we were riding on our laurels riding on the winds and the heartache and the bloodshed and The commitment of these men and women who who pre deceased us in our timeline here in America And I looked at him with such confusion and I was like in my head.
	I'm like, okay But I was like when on earth is am I as a little girl gonna be called to like go to war and I guess he knew something I didn't even back then, right?
	But it was a non-negotiable in my family on both sides.
	You know, the side that fled communism, the side that came from Patrick Henry, and the other side that was standing on the decks of the destroyers in Pearl Harbor.
	If you are at war, you stand the F up, because you are better off dying with your boots on on your feet than ever taking a knee to tyranny.
	And that is the lesson of the day.
	We are in a war, and we've got it.
	People are standing up more and more all over the place, and it is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in my life.
	I'm grateful for the opportunity to see the great awakening we are in, and I know we're gonna win it.
	We just need to keep going where we're going with good people, getting the word out like you're doing here on your show, hopefully on my new show coming down the pike this fall, and all the other people who are banding together to do what God wants us to do and what humanity wants us to do, which is win.
	Totally, totally.
	We need to wake our neighbors up, and hey, feel free to share this episode, viewers out there, because people need to know what's going on out there.
	Your experiences speak volumes in terms of what is the approach in order to win the future.
	And if we don't stand up, I mean, we're going to lose it all.
	We're the last house standing on the block, having traveled all around the world.
	I could tell you all around Europe, they're waiting for us to stand up because they've already lost it.
	And, you know, we are fortunate enough to be hanged.
	You know, holding onto it by a sliver, but we are about to lose it all unless we make our move.
	Yep. Founding fathers are smart.
	Nobody else at the time had the First Amendment or the Second Amendment, and those two things in the main are what separates us from the rest of the world, and they wait for us to lead because they know we can and we always have.
	The question right now is, will we?
	And I believe we will. It's in our DNA. And I believe that gift of the Second Amendment that backstops the First Amendment We don't want to go there.
	Let's fight it down with our words and our peace using our First Amendment rights.
	But they gave us two things, right?
	And that is what separates us from the Australias and the Canadas where Pulaski is.
	And we need to understand that gift that we've been given.
	And we need to start getting out there peacefully in the streets with our signs and our name and shame programs and calling it out.
	And that's all you need to do. The traitors...
	They don't want their bad misdeeds known.
	And once you put them on blast, they turn tail and run.
	You don't even need to do any more than that.
	So do your part.
	Fight your corner. We got this in the bag if we all do our part.
	And thank you again for having me.
	It's been such an amazing interview.
	I think we went over time, but I had the time to spend and I'm honored that you did as well because I think it was a resoundingly wonderful interview.
	Yeah, I really enjoyed this, Lee.
	Really enjoyed this. And, you know, for the viewers out there, thank you so much for joining us for this episode of Blood Money.
	Make sure you check out all our shows on AmericaHappens.com, including Gloves Off with Joey Gilbert, Mindy Robinson's Conspiracy Truth.
	She's about to drop a new episode of that wonderful documentary series that we do, our HN News Live, every Tuesdays and Thursdays at 2 p.m.
	Pacific, 5 p.m. Eastern.
	I will see you on the next episode of Blood Money.
	Thank you so much. We're
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