Gun Control and the Road to Tyranny w/ Mark McCloskey (Blood Money Episode 134)
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All right. Welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
This episode is actually a repurposed episode of AHN News Live, our news series, which occurs every Tuesday and Thursday at 2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern.
This specific episode, having to do with gun control, we thought was very fascinating and important to present as a Blood Money episode.
So thank you very much for joining us, and I will see you on the next episode of Blood Money.
So I'm in Chapel Hill, North Carolina right now, and I'm doing something that I really, really have loved to do since 2021.
I'm investigating the origins of COVID, and I do my own investigation, my own research.
By the time I understand what I've actually seen and witnessed, you know, it takes like a year or two to get it to Congress.
But this is really important because since 2021, I've really been focused on the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
And there is a professor here named Ralph Baric and a lot of people now know since 2021 that he is one of the men who actually helped Fauci make the coronavirus and the vaccine and remdesivir.
So not only did they actually contribute to the making of The virus, the COVID-19, and the vaccine, and the medication that was supposed to be given to everyone, remdesivir.
Now we know that all of this is toxic.
And it's killing people.
And as a matter of fact, people consider it to be a bioweapon.
So what is really happening in the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and then what's really happening in the world really matters because you still have to be vaccinated to go to this college.
You still have to get the vaccines and then they recommend the boosters.
The colleges, most colleges are still requiring the vaccine.
There's still vaccine mandates.
There's still not a vaccine that's safe.
And what else can I say?
It hasn't ended.
Like in our tiny groups, in our tiny elitist groups, we think that this is over, but it's not over.
It's still standard to require the COVID-19 vaccine for entrance to any school.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
You know, the thing that we've done a lot of research on and a lot of podcasts on on the Blood Money podcast is this issue of Ralph Barrett.
You know, many people say, including lawyers that we've spoken to, like Thomas Renz, who we actually just interviewed this morning again for the third time.
That this man has committed crimes against humanity.
Nuremberg 2.0 is what we constantly keep hearing about this individual.
What is going on there?
Why hasn't this man been held accountable?
Why hasn't he been questioned more?
Why is it that he seems to have been part of this creation of the bioweapon, yet there seems to be no charges against him, no prosecutions?
What's going on there? What's happening is that we're censored.
And what I'm saying right now, what I'm saying on the show is considered misinformation.
So number one, we're censored.
And number two, we're considered, what I'm saying is considered misinformation.
So the reason that nothing has happened is because 98% of people in the United States, American citizens, don't understand the truth about the origins of COVID. Because mainstream media has been censoring, social media platforms are censoring, even though the Biden administration,
I call it the Biden regime sometimes just to be funny, even though the Biden regime, because we don't really know who's in charge there, even though they were told by a federal judge two weeks ago that they, on July 4th, no less, on July 4th of this year, a federal judge said to the Biden administration, you cannot censor social media platforms anymore.
And he, the Biden regime, is actually appealing that now.
They're appealing that. So censorship is the reason that no one has been held accountable for what really happened with the COVID-19 virus, vaccine, and medications like remdesivir that were supposedly supposed to be used to help people, when in actuality they killed many people.
Yes, yes. Mark, are you able to hear us?
I am. Can you hear me? Yes, excellent.
Real pleasure to have you on our HN News Live broadcast.
How have you been doing?
Pretty good, pretty good. You know, following up on just a moment ago, you know, we were traveling with the Trump campaign during the beginnings of COVID. And, you know, there were doctors like Richard Bartlett out in Odessa and Peter McCullough down in Houston that were doing 100% success rates with pre-hospitalization treatment for COVID. And the government did nothing but try to squash them like bugs,
because unless you can put people in the hospital, put them on ventilators and kill them, you can't keep the people afraid enough to put up with this kind of totalitarianism.
Exactly, exactly. I mean, you and your wife, you know, were brought out into the forefront of our, you know, mainstream media apparatus with what happened to you.
I mean, essentially, you're defending yourself, you know, Second Amendment rights, but I mean, they seem to have defamed you guys quite a bit.
I mean, tell me a little bit about that journey and how that relates to all this tyranny that we're talking about.
Well, I'll give you kind of the nickel version of it.
I mean, we live in a red state.
We've got a Republican governor, a Republican attorney general who's now our junior senator.
But this entity that's been ruled by one party for over 79 years, criminals in St.
Louis don't fear any repercussion for their crimes, so they actually get to advertise it ahead of time.
And this Antifa organization run by Cori Bush advertised that they're going to have a mob action in our neighborhood on June the 28th, 2020.
And because they had torn up and burned down the city of St.
Louis and murdered police officers and shot police officers, We didn't want to, you know, have them do the same to us.
And since we knew they liked to burn stuff, we put fire extinguishers all around the house.
And since we knew they liked to shoot people, we put guns all around the house.
And then that Sunday afternoon, the mob, to do a very short version of a very long story, We broke through the gate going into our private neighborhood, stormed in 350 to 500 of them, screaming death threats.
I'm going to rape and murder your wife.
I'm going to burn down your house, burn down your office building, murder you.
That's going to be my bedroom.
That's going to be my dining room.
That's going to be where I have my breakfast after we kill you and take over your house.
First thing I did when they broke open the gate was I stood out in the corner of my porch and said the two most racist, white supremacist words in the history of the world.
I said, private property!
And being communist, that pissed them off, right?
And they just kept swarming in more and more.
Well, I had my AR-15 stashed around the corner.
I grabbed it and stood out on the patio and stood there saying all kinds of mean, nasty things to them like private property, Go back.
Get out. I actually swore at him once.
I said, get the hell out of my property.
And then I think I'm doing okay.
And my wife went in.
My daughter went in to call 911 to absolutely no avail, of course.
And then I see her show up in front of me on the lawn, two feet from the mob, waving that dumbass little Bryco pistol over her head.
And now I've got a problem because she's in my line of fire.
And if I'm going to protect her and protect me, then I have to be down in the grass.
And that's when you start seeing all those pictures.
But, you know, two of us with two guns against a mob of 350 to 500, some of whom were armed, some of whom were wearing body armor, all of whom were screaming death threats at us, that's the value of the Second Amendment.
I mean, that's the whole reason that our forefathers put in, you know, a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
You didn't hear the word hunting anywhere in there, did you?
You didn't hear the word shooting Bambi in a Kevlar vest anywhere, did you?
The whole purpose was to not give the state a monopoly on power, and the whole purpose was to give homeowners, give individuals the right to defend themselves, their family, and their property.
That's all we did. Nobody got shot, nobody got hurt, and we stood them down.
Sir, go ahead. No, I was going to say what most people don't know is a mob came back the next Friday, now numbering a thousand with a specific goal of killing us and burning down the house.
That didn't make any press because it's counter-narrative.
The media only reports those things that can portray these people as peaceful social justice warriors walking calmly past my house and away to the mayor's house, first of all.
Mayor doesn't live in my neighborhood.
Second of all, they broke down my gate and threatened to kill me.
But, you know, we couldn't get any private security.
The city police were ordered to stand down.
And, you know, it's getting to be Thursday night.
That Friday, they're vowing to come.
We got a tip from an insider, a brainwashed member of that Antifa organization.
And so we had gotten a call from the White House earlier in the week, and the gentleman said the President wants to extend his support, and if there's ever anything we can do to help, give us a call.
So Thursday night, when we were anticipating to die the next day, I called that number back up.
And so when I was a stinking, you know, pretty stinking good time, and he gave me Mark Meadows' cell phone number, and I got ahold of The next call I made was to Tucker Carlson.
To make a long story short, when the mob downnumbering 1,000 hit the gate the next night, we had six Navy SEALs, we had 10 secondary employment cops, we had the FBI light aircraft circling the top of the house, and we held them off.
Once again, you know, we had what we used to call in the Reagan administration, peace through superior firepower.
And nobody got shot.
Nobody got hurt. We held them off.
Nobody breached the gate that time.
And, you know, we didn't get an all clear until about 4.30 in the morning.
But we did get Cori Bush, now Congresswoman Cori Bush, standing outside my gate with a megaphone chanting, you can't stop the revolution.
You can't stop the revolution.
Well, you know, Jim the SEAL standing next to me, resting his hands in the butt of his M4 said, oh yes I can.
And we can. We just have to stand up and exercise our God-given rights.
Yeah, you know, you bring up Cori Bush, you know, calling her the head of Antifa.
Tell me a little bit more about that.
She started an activist movement with the Michael Brown shooting Lothies many years ago.
And she and a guy who used to be a state representative now, now a city of St.
Louis alderman by the name of Rasheen Aldridge, formed this group called Expect Us St.
Louis. And they are a Rasheen himself said on television, you gotta figure that on the night of June 1st, June 2nd of 2020, they burned down downtown St.
Louis. The supporters of BLM set fire to downtown St.
Louis, shot four police officers, murdered retired police captain David Doran.
And Cori Bush and Rasheen Aldridge We're head of this protest entity called Expect Us St.
Louis. Rasheen Aldrich said on television that they have to break the law to sell their point, that it's important for them to violate the law.
And so these are the people who now are in our government.
I mean, they elected this overt communist, this Cori Bush, the United States House of Representatives, and re-elected it.
I mean, this is the state of the country today.
You know, it's funny because while you're talking, Corinne's been texting me some questions.
Corinne's really on top of this.
So she's asking, we need to know the exact names of who attacked you.
Do you have more information on that?
I mean, I want to know the leaders.
I want to know the Antifa leaders.
I want to know their names. I want you to be really specific because your story is horrific.
And because I'm based in Washington, D.C., I met you at CPAC with your wife.
You know, I was explaining to you guys, I cover all the J6 federal court cases, and these men are going to jail for 7 to 20 years for...
Doing almost nothing compared to what happened in St.
Louis and all the things you've witnessed.
Did anyone go to jail for killing police officers in St.
Louis? Did anyone go to jail for damaging your gate?
Did anything happen? Well, the answer to David Dorn's murderers, I think three out of four of them have been sentenced already.
But as far as the people that burned down downtown St.
Louis and shot other policemen, I don't believe there have been any prosecutions.
Not a single one of the 350 to 500 people that broke down our gate and threatened to kill us and burned down my house and burned down my office.
Not a single one of them has done a day in jail compared to the political prisoners up in D.C. who've done no more than be charged with trespass Or being on Capitol grounds or parading without a license.
These are misdemeanors which in the real world would get you a $50 fine and out of jail the same day.
And yet here we are with these poor sons of gunsmen rotting in the Google aisle up there for two and a half years, getting tortured, having horrible conditions, not getting their medication, not getting their necessary medical treatment.
And I'll digress because I said this in my radio program Sunday this week.
The Ninth Circuit says you've got a constitutional right to camp on public property because to not allow bums and drug addicts to live on public property would be cruel and unusual punishment.
But to keep these people in D.C. in solitary confinement under horrible conditions for two and a half years, that's not cruel and unusual punishment.
You know what's really interesting?
I want to tell you guys what I witnessed last week.
It was very interesting. I'll just say it very fast because it relates to this.
There were two men who were oath keepers who went to the Washington DC rally at the US Capitol.
A very corrupt judge that I can say is corrupt in my opinion because I've witnessed him since March of last year over sentencing American patriots.
One man was a black man who is an actor on Broadway and played Judas and Jesus Christ Superstar in 2019.
And another one is an Oath Keeper, an ex-veteran, somebody that, you know, is from the Midwest, a super kind person with no criminal history.
The judge, in the same case, found the black man from New York who's an actor, innocent, and the white man, who is an ex-veteran from the Midwest, fully guilty.
100% guilty.
That's showing us how unfair, how unreasonable our justice system is right now.
We have a system of tyranny now.
People talk about a two-tier justice system.
If you don't have equal justice under the law for all people, you have no justice system.
You just have tyranny. Exactly.
And the point I wanted to make is you made a lot of points, Mark, in terms of when they're trying to enter your house.
A lot of it sounded like, I mean, textbook terrorism, right?
You're talking about taking somebody's home.
You're talking about taking somebody's freedom.
You're talking about raping somebody's wife.
I mean, if that's not terrorizing somebody, I don't know what is.
Yet, no terrorism charges on these individuals.
No semblance of properly holding them accountable for what they did, which is essentially they terrorized you.
They made you fear your life.
I mean, what else is there to say about this?
I was interviewed by Chris Cuomo the next day, and he says to me, how are you damaged?
How are you damaged? I said, well, this is, what's terrorism, Chris?
Terrorism is using fear to try to coerce people and they're accepting your political opinion.
They broke down my gate.
They threatened to kill me, rape and murder my wife.
What they've done is this is a definition of terrorism.
Well, Chris didn't like that answer much, but as I always said, he's pretty much dumb as a sack of hammers some of the time.
But that's it. That's exactly right.
And none of these people are going to be charged with insurrection.
None of these people are going to be charged with terrorism.
None of these people have been charged with anything.
And you want names?
I mean, Cori Bush, she said in public that she was one of the people in front of my house on both days.
And I love when she was being interviewed on the Capitol steps when she was doing her eviction moratorium sleep in on the Capitol steps.
You know, she was asked about me, and she says that McCloskey, he's a liar.
He spat on my name.
His days are numbered, right?
Here she is, threatening my life on the Capitol steps.
Did she go to jail?
Did she get investigated?
Nope. Nope. There's no justice in the country.
One of the guys who represents some of the January Sixers was on a program with me a month or two ago, and he came up with a phrase that I've been using ever since.
He says, the United States of America today, you're not innocent until proven guilty.
You're guilty until...
Sorry, you cut out Mark.
You're guilty until...
Proven Democrat. Proven Democrat, exactly, yeah.
Exactly, exactly. I mean, I don't know if I'd even call it a two-tier justice system.
I mean, it seems like there's tyranny for one group and you could be hunted down, you could be persecuted Pretty much like persecuted on the level of how, you know, in Stalin's Russia or Stalin's USSR or Hitler's Germany, same type of thing.
If you are politically not aligned with the ruling powers, you are persecuted.
And if you are part of, you know, the narrative, then it seems like they leave you alone.
In fact, it seems like you get away with the privilege of committing as many crimes as you'd like.
Yeah, look at the Biden crime family.
And then look at Donald Trump.
I mean, you know, one of my favorite stories is that at one of the conferences at the end of World War II, Stalin and FDR are meeting together to cut up the world, and Winston Churchill's not there because he lost his election.
Stalin couldn't imagine how a person could not be in power anymore but still be alive.
That's just the way things work.
But now look at how close it is to the United States.
The swamp fears Donald Trump more than anything in the world.
He was just named as a party of interest by the January 6th prosecutor.
Now they're going to indict him in Georgia.
I mean, they'd indict him for having a breath and having a heartbeat if they could.
But I mean, this is no different than any other Totalitarian purge.
I've been calling it for two years during my Senate campaign as a coup by subpoena.
But it's gotten worse than that.
You get the whole list of every Trump supporter that's been indicted or arrested or harassed or had his doors kicked in and people with machine guns pull him out of bed at four o'clock in the morning.
This is not a free republic.
This is a police state where you either do what you're told You'll be harassed.
They don't care if you get convicted because just the process of defending yourself will drive the average person into bankruptcy and destroy them emotionally.
I mean, for defending ourselves, we got charged with two classy felonies each that would cost us four years in the slammer and our law licenses and our lives and everything else, you know, our financial lives.
And that's the whole point.
I mean, most people can't do what I, you know, we had the ability to do.
We hired the best lawyer available.
We spent a lot of money.
We're both lawyers, but we work for ourselves, so nobody has any coercive power over us other than the state.
But I mean, not only that, but then the Bar Association wanted to take our licenses away.
We had to be on a year's probation for doing no more than defending ourselves.
The Bar Association of Missouri, Called what we did in defending ourselves a crime of moral turpitude, right?
This is how upside down the world is.
You defend yourself against a mob that wants to kill you.
You're not just doing something wrong.
You're doing something immoral.
Let me ask you something. Crime of moral...
What was that again?
Moral turpitude. I mean, is that in Black's Law Dictionary?
It is. And it's defined as doing something evil or morally corrupt.
And so you, basically upholding your Second Amendment rights is a crime of some kind that's in Black's Law Dictionary, according to...
Yeah, well, at least according to the Bar Association.
I mean, according, as I said in my brief to the United States Supreme Court, when I've got the governor of the state of Missouri...
The Attorney General of the State of the Missouri, 16 sitting congressmen that all wrote a letter to then Attorney General Barr saying that the prosecutor in my case should be prosecuted for violating my Second Amendment rights.
When I got the President, the Governor, the AG, and 16 congressmen saying I'd done nothing wrong, it's pretty hard for me to believe that I was acting in moral turpitude.
So let me ask you something on that topic, because the bar is something we talk about often, because the bar is a monopoly.
Is that part of the issue that the bar is a monopoly, that there should be a competing American legal society of some kind, so there'd be at least the checks and balances, so people like you that are going against what the bar wants you to do, will not be at risk of losing your license.
Because it seems as though these are politically oriented, you know, targeting of individuals.
I mean, what do you think about that topic?
Totally well. You know, oddly enough, I was thinking about this last night.
We accept the Bar Association as being a legitimate entity, that it has a right to determine who should and should not be allowed to practice law.
Our Bar Association here in Missouri requires us to take diversity, equity, and inclusion courses to keep our law licenses, right?
And not to mention the fact that, as in our case, we got slapped with a six-month suspended license, probated for a year.
When Kim Gardner, the Soros-sponsored prosecutor that brought the charges against us, got charged with 92 counts of perjury and supporting perjury and hiding evidence, she got a $750 fine, and that was it, by the same Bar Association.
And so, you know, do you think it might be a little biased towards one end of the political spectrum?
And yet, you know, lawyers, if you ask the average lawyer, is the Bar Association a political entity?
They'd probably say no, but only because they've never tested whether or not in fact it is.
But it is just a political entity, and it has unregulated absolute power.
Yeah, and one of the other things I wanted to mention is, it just strikes me as, okay, we've heard that there was an original 13th Amendment, which was aimed at essentially making our legislature free of bar agents, you know, bar agents, because our judicial branch was filled with them.
And that was, I think, their way of making sure that there was a checks and balances.
but now you have your judicial branch, which is filled with bar agents, and then you have your legislature, which is 75% bar agents, people that might not be part of this conspiracy or whatever, or just might be honest lawyers, but nonetheless, they risk losing their license should they go against this political entity, just like you've done.
Hence and therefore, there seems to be this pressure on these individuals not to necessarily challenge the judicial branch, because they are all part of the judicial branch in a way, by virtue of being bar agents.
Isn't that an inherent issue of checks and balances, and the reason why the legislature, which is supposed to hold these judges and these lawyers accountable, is no longer doing so?
You know, it's an interesting thing.
I mean, lawyers are supposed to be able to exercise their independent judgment, particularly in representing clients.
We used to use the term zealously represent, but that's been changed about 20 years ago now.
But you've got a guy like Rudy Giuliani, right?
They pulled his license in D.C. without notice of hearing.
And all the lawyers that have now been compelled to testify against Donald Trump, compelled to testify against their own clients.
And what's the answer?
I mean, do you Do you really—let me put it this way.
People get elected to Congress, they have families, they have kids, they have maybe a future outside of politics, and some of them will actually retire without becoming uber-millionaires like most politicians, and they need to have a life.
And so they are afraid to challenge the powers that be.
They're afraid to go up against the bar associations.
And so it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They do as they're told because they have to tell other people to do the same thing.
And if you step out of line, they'll pull your ticket.
If you step out of line, they'll make your life miserable to defend your license.
But more than that, they will just ostracize you from the community.
On the morning after that first assault in our house, I said to the first reporter that interviewed me, if I had been the managing partner of the biggest law firm in St.
Louis, that Monday morning I would have had to wake up and go on the apology tour.
I would have had to apologize for being born, apologize for being white, apologize for being successful.
I still would have been fired, and I would never get another job in the law.
And the only reason we could do what we did was because we're not beholden to anybody.
We don't owe anybody anything.
Nobody controls our life or our income.
And as long as the government doesn't find some reason to throw us in the gulag, you know, we still have this pretense of free speech in this country up to a point where the government says, oh, no, you don't.
And you were mentioning this earlier.
Can you imagine that a judge in Louisiana has...
To actually order the government to destroy our First Amendment rights?
I mean, is everything long enough in the United States of America where a court would have to tell the government not to conspire to violate the First Amendment?
Yeah, yeah, it's madness.
And one of the things that strikes me is this is something that's happening across the board is this lawfare, right?
Like just recently, I think it was the last Blood Money episode we've done on the America Happens Network, Blood Money episode 129 or 128, if I'm not mistaken, with Loren Kelly, who is a gun manufacturer.
And what he does is essentially his company creates gun parts so he can self-assemble guns.
And the Biden administration Actually, Biden got on the White House lawn, spent an hour talking about Loren Kelly's product in particular, holding it in his hand, talking about ghost guns, this term that, you know, they just invented to make it seem like what these guys are doing is crazy and bad.
And what Loren Kelly was telling us was that during the Revolutionary War, nearly all the guns were hand-assembled.
So they're trying to present this as, oh, look at all these, you know, right-wing folks.
All of a sudden, they're assembling guns and trying to use loopholes to make their own guns because they're domestic terrorists.
And when you look at the real history, this is something that's been going on since the beginning of time in our American history.
And it's been something that's completely normal.
But yet, these individuals that are running government right now don't even know their own history.
You know, two things.
One is, That the number of people in this country that are killed with long guns of all kinds is essentially insignificant.
More people get killed with hands and fists or hammers every year in this country than with long guns of all kinds.
Secondly, the powers that be that want to take away our Second Amendment rights always talk about weapons of war, right?
And assault weapons.
Well, in the time that the Second Amendment was incorporated into the Constitution.
Weapons of war were muzzle-loading muskets, right?
And that's what the Revolution was fought with.
But more than that, there were automatic repeating rifles at that time.
In the Lewis and Clark Expedition, Clark's rifle was in the Missouri Historical Society about a mile from my house.
It would fire 27 shots without reloading.
And people just ignore the history to make propaganda points.
But yeah, I mean, most of the guns at the time of the revolution were built by hand.
They weren't mass produced.
They didn't have serial numbers.
And they weren't registered with a federal government.
I can tell you that. Yeah.
And, you know, going back to this topic of lawfare, right, you were talking about how, fortunately, you have the resources to be able to fight all this nonsense.
And Loren Kelly, who runs the company, Polymer 80, that makes these gun parts, was saying the exact same thing has been happening to him.
He had to do a $5 million settlement in California.
He's had to spend what sounds like tens of millions of dollars just fighting this nonsense.
And he sees himself as one of the frontline individuals who is fighting for our We're good to go.
Well, it absolutely is.
I mean, the bottom line is, the average human being can't afford to hire a lawyer.
The average human being can't afford to defend against the United States of America.
And anybody that's done any criminal law, I don't do any criminal law, I'm a personal injury lawyer, but anybody that does criminal law will tell you, When you're up there and the federal prosecutor stands up, the assistant U.S. attorney, and the case is the United States of America versus Joe Blow, you get convicted.
I mean, it's hard for the jurors to resist that, which is like the vast majority of cases plead out.
But the average person just cannot afford to defend it.
And so what do they do? They plead guilty.
They plead guilty because they're afraid that if they don't, and for example, there's a guy out of Arizona whose dad's a friend of mine, Who's running for Congress out there.
But his son is one of the January 6th defendants.
And they just keep unloading more and more felony charges because they're about to go to trial.
And that's what they do.
They just keep unloading.
There's a guy I had on my radio program a month ago who was running for Congress in West Virginia.
The day before they were going to try him, they only had four more felonies.
It would cost him 40 years in the slammer if he didn't plead guilty.
And, you know, what are you going to do under those circumstances?
I mean, you don't have a choice.
And that's what the whole, you know, coup by subpoena is all about, because you can coerce people just out of fear.
What are the January 6th political prisoners all about?
It's A, to punish them, but more than that, it's to warn everybody else.
If you don't behave, if you're willing to stand up for your God-given constitutional rights, we will destroy you.
We'll put you in the hole and we'll throw away the key and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
And then we're going to assign you a public defender who's going to tell you you're an insurrectionist and you ought to rot in prison the rest of your life.
Yep, and that's no due process, especially when you have somebody that's not defending your God-given rights.
I mean, there's an inherent issue with our legal system.
The fact that you could be destroyed because you don't have enough money to defend yourself seems to go against everything that's in our Constitution.
How do we fix that?
How do we make... The law more accessible to we, the people.
So they're not stuck with these frankly scumbag, you know, public prosecutors and, you know, just lawyers that they get for free, but that they're not necessarily defending that individual's right.
How do we fix that issue?
Because that seems to be an inherent issue that unless you are one of we, the elite, unless you are wealthy and able to fight this tyranny, you're pretty much, I mean, you're screwed, really.
You know, the real answer has to come.
From the political will of the people.
You know, the Declaration of Independence say that this is a government by the consent of the governed.
And whenever I talk about this topic, I always say the same thing.
When bad stuff happens, when there is a disinformation governance board announced, or when there is a vax mandate announced, or when there's COVID lockdowns announced, the only way it happens is because the majority of the people allow it to happen.
They consent to it happening.
And you can't hire everybody, F. Lee Bailey, to defend them, but what you can do is restructure the political system to where the prosecutors can't get away with political prosecution.
They can't get away with ideological prosecution.
They have to actually enforce the statutes passed by Congress and signed by the President Or in the state court signed by the governor.
And the statutes have to be specific.
The problem right now is you've got all these vague, amorphous statutes where the federal government or the state government can come in and invent a cause of action against you when they don't like your political opinions.
And that's the biggest problem that I see.
I see people getting charged with things.
Where the heck is a crime there?
I mean, but they're... Many years ago, before there were as many laws against, you know, free speech and against individualism as there are now, policemen would tell you that the average human being commits 11 felonies a day without knowing it.
It is, you know, as George Orwell said, when everything's against the law, the only crime is getting arrested.
Exactly. And all these ridiculous victimless crimes.
Like you said, you could commit crimes just living and breathing because they have so many things that they could prosecute you with if they decide to prosecute you.
But then you have literal criminals.
You have... An individual that's being investigated by Corinne right now, who a lot of people think is responsible for a genocide, Holocaust, mass murder, that is not being prosecuted.
So, Corinne, tell me a little bit about what you're doing in terms of your Ralph Baric investigations and where you think it might lead.
I mean, I got arrested in April 2021 because of this.
Obviously, all charges were dropped.
But this is why I know this is where the real truth is.
The University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina, these professors that Ralph Barrett controls at this school, the Gilling School of Global Public Health, I just had a student walk out and give me their number on the side.
Students here, when I hang out here and chill, you know, they like to confess to me.
And so I don't write about it.
I talk about it and I give this information to as many independent journalists as I possibly can.
Because just like Mark, you know, I'm traumatized by mainstream media.
I'm traumatized by censorship.
I'm traumatized by this whole media industry that says that they tell you the truth.
I'm one of the most censored women in the United States of America at this time and so what I do, I just chill, I hang out, I walk around, I take pictures of the posters.
They post posters to all the students and I take pictures of them and I study them and I try to figure out what's the next virus, what's the next disease, What are they going to do next?
And so I find really interesting stuff like on their wall, it talks about vaccines.
They're trying to educate and brainwash all the kids to take vaccines.
This is on the main wall in this building that I'm at right now.
You and I and Mark and everybody that's watching probably would think this doesn't exist anymore.
But it does exist.
This is considered artwork for professors like Ralph Baric.
And when they get told they can't do it in the United States of America, when they can't, when Dr.
Fauci is not in control or when he can't buy off the right laboratory, they do it in China.
And so the origins of COVID really are from the deep, deep, deep state in the United States of America, We can't blame it on China.
We can't blame it on Russia.
Just like the elections.
And this is why what I do is very dangerous.
It's the deep, deep, deep state that is controlling us now.
So someone like Mark, what do we do, Mark?
You're a god of gods in this area.
I need to know specifics.
What can we do to really stand up?
Because now President Trump might be indicted again.
All the J6 cases are going to be used against him to indict him for January 6th.
I'm just wondering, Mark, what's the answer to this?
You ran for Senate. What do we do?
Yeah. Well, you know, what I say every day is the only way we're going to fix this thing is if I have large-scale, peaceful, civil disobedience.
I mean, I call the January 6th, I mean, not January 6th, COVID lockdown is the final exam on American freedom.
I always figured that at some point FEMA would create some kind of faux emergency and declare martial law and lock us all in our houses and say we couldn't go to work or we couldn't go to school or we couldn't go to church.
But I figured they'd have to put a gun to our heads to make us comply.
In March of 2020 they just said it and everybody did it.
I mean, that was a test to see how much the American people would stomach without complaining about it.
Even the sheep in Australia marched in the streets, not to mention France and all over the world, except in the United States of America, the home of the land of the free and the home of the brave.
We all marched peacefully back in our homes and did everything the government asked.
The only way that that won't happen is if we just stand up and say no, and we just refuse.
When they impose the next crisis upon us, we just say, no, we're not going to get locked down.
No, you don't have enough soldiers to put us all in jail.
If you're 1,000 people on January 6th, or they want to arrest another 1,200 now, if 100,000 people stood up and said no.
Or, for example, if you find the government involved In arresting people on purely political bases like President Trump.
When you find Gal Luff getting indicted for not registering as a foreign agent by the same government that protects Hunter Biden.
I mean, you just, you gotta, and it's not gonna be a fast process.
Why weren't there 49 Republican senators I don't understand screaming about the way the IRS, the FBI, and the Justice Department is protecting Hunter Biden.
You just have to get the people awake and say, vote those people out.
Vote in people that will really represent the interests of individuals.
But then you hearken back to the last election cycle, when we had all this proof of governmental interference in the election, all this rampant abuse.
And what happens? Did we have a red wave?
No, the sheep remained within their pen.
And that's why I'm out here every day talking, because the only way we're going to win this thing is by having enough people recognize what a crisis we're in right now, how close we are to losing this republic, how close we are in this election cycle to having Everything that we've seen in the way of our freedoms absolutely wiped out overnight.
People wake up one day and say, gee, what happened?
Well, it's happening all around us right now.
And it's happening at a speed and a velocity that I never thought would happen.
And nobody is screaming about it.
I mean, even... Even my friends at Fox Television, I've been on Fox a few times, they're not screaming about it.
In fact, they are, you know, have gone in full rhino camp these days.
And so, you know, they just, of course the left always wants to give you the pretext of an alternative without having a real alternative.
And that's what allegedly conservative broadcasting is these days with With, you know, notable exceptions like the program we're doing here today.
But the bottom line is, it only happens because people accept it.
And we're not going to change it overnight, but we're going to have to change it by just not acquiescing in it.
Widespread, peaceful, civil disobedience.
Gandhi changed the nation of a billion that way.
I think we can save the United States.
If people are, you know...
247 years ago, a guy in Philadelphia stood up and said, I care not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.
People were willing to risk their fortunes, their lives, everything to preserve a much smaller intrusion on their freedoms.
Exactly. That's what Ben and I are doing on America Happens News.
We're risking everything, so I'm grateful.
Tell us more. I want to know, what's the status of any legislation that would actually risk 2A? The Second Amendment has to remain legal or else we can't defend ourselves.
People really need to realize that, especially the younger generations need to realize that if they don't have the right to bear arms, Then they won't have their freedom.
Look at France. Look at all the countries that take away gun rights.
Yeah, well, you know, I don't know if I said this already in this program, but April 18th of 1775.
But I mean, here's the thing.
The federal government made about 40 million people felons on January 30th of this year when they imposed the pistol brace.
I don't know if y'all are familiar with that, but they retroactively decided that these things called pistol braces, their devices were originally designed for wounded veterans so they can fire a weapon more accurately with one arm, and so it's a pistol-sized thing that has a brace for your arm.
The government has now redefined those retroactively as short-barreled rifles.
We either have to register them with the federal government through an onerous process that involves taking pictures of yourself, Taking pictures of the gun with a ruler next to it, sending it in with your fingerprints and And all this kind of stuff.
At the rate that the federal government processes these kinds of forms, I think it would take like 178 years for the government to process all the forms of all the people that own these kinds of weapons.
But it gets worse, right?
Because then you had the head of ATF testifying in front of Congress, and he says, well, all you have to do is take the brace off your pistol, and you're no longer a felon.
When the ATF, four days later, came out With a statement saying that no, those are still short-barreled rifles and have to be registered.
So the bottom line is they have all these little programs to make more and more people criminals.
What's the purpose of making you a felon, right?
They make you a felon, you can't own a gun, and you can't vote.
You've just been disarmed and disenfranchised.
That's what a lot of this stuff is about.
In my hometown, Which is the murder capital of the world year after year after year in St.
Louis. Our illustrious leftist government has now decided the way to make St.
Louis safer is to only allow people with concealed carry permits, get the logic of this, concealed carry permits, only people that can carry concealed are allowed to open carry.
But the bottom line is that the gangbangers in the city of St.
Louis are walking down the street with their rifles in their hands.
And the way to cure that is to outlaw guns, not to maybe like arrest the gangbangers or enforce the drug laws or maybe some of those kinds of things.
I mean, the guns obviously shoot themselves, and it's only the guns that have responsibility.
But at every level...
Of our government, from the city level to the state level to the federal level, in these blue entities, they're finding little intrusions into your Second Amendment rights.
My daughter lives in Chicago.
When I go to visit her, I have to go disarm, because there's no legal way to bring a firearm from my home in St.
Louis to her home in Chicago.
I'm up here in Michigan today.
Tomorrow we're doing a two-way rally outside of Grand Rapids, Michigan, with Kyle Rittenhouse and Sheriff Mack, because Gretchen Whitmer and the Democrat House and Senate here in Michigan are imposing more and more restrictive gun rules.
Once again, they do it on the pretext of safety.
They run the pretext of saving us from those evil guns that will wake up in the middle of the night and kill us when we least suspect them.
But once again...
And I sound like a broken record, but the reason for the Second Amendment is to protect people against the government.
And in a society where the people are afraid of the government, you have tyranny.
But where the government is afraid of the people, you have freedom.
And that Second Amendment is there.
Well, when David Chipman was being interviewed about the job as head of ATF, since he always wants to outlaw assault weapons, one of the senators asked him, well, how do you define an assault weapon?
He was unable to do so.
A couple of days later, I was on a national program and I was giving him poop about that.
And they said, if you're so smart, Mark, can you define an assault weapon?
I said, yeah, it's an effective defense against an overreaching government.
That's exactly what the Second Amendment is all about.
That is so true. And I'm hearing it's more and more federal government overreach is the ATF. The ATF. Tell us about the ATF. That's a huge issue.
Obviously, you know, there was a hearing in Congress about it two weeks ago.
But what's the truth about the ATF? Because what I saw when they were closing all the restaurants in Beverly Hills and Washington, D.C. and New York City is the ATF was enforcing the vaccine mandate closures.
The ATF is now assigned to do the dirty work.
So what's the truth about the ATF, Mark?
I don't think there should be an ATF. The very definition of the ATF is a violation of the Second Amendment.
But more than that, they are sneaky little devious bastards.
They're trying to put firearm sellers out of business.
A friend of mine, for example, had a small firearms business down in Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri.
They have an ATF agent team come in pretending to be husband and wife.
Essentially, pretend husband buys a pistol and then hands it to the wife.
And then they arrest the firearms dealer for a straw sale.
Of course, it's supposed to be a crime under the ATF, under the federal laws, to buy a gun.
Purchase a gun on a pretext that it's yours when it's really somebody else's.
His brother owned a lock and key company next door.
They went into both businesses, confiscated all the guns, even from the brother that didn't have the firearms license.
Wasn't selling firearms, but he had a lock and key business.
And these are guys in their 70s and terrorized them.
It's happening all over the place.
The ATF is going in and finding small procedural violations with federal firearm license dealers.
And closing them down and harassing them.
And it's going on nationwide.
But the bottom line is that we now have an ATF that isn't there to protect us against criminals or against illegal gun runners.
It's there to persecute Individuals that want to protect themselves and protect their families.
And it's to disarm the average law-abiding, God-fearing citizen.
Of course, you know, when BLM runs rampant, they don't send in the ATF to disarm them.
And that's all you need to know about the ATF. They are a coercive arm of the left, just like the FBI and the DOJ is now.
Wow, wow. Let's talk a little bit more about Curry Bush, actually, because we're talking about her encouraging Antifa.
And what's interesting is, in the past, I had worked for lobby groups.
Excuse me. One of the lobby groups in particular was trying to lobby for, essentially, Christians are being persecuted all around the world.
It's been happening for, you know, hundreds of years.
And they were trying to bring attention to that fact.
And I remember Cori Bush specifically saying, and these are Christians that have been going through acts of terrorism, right, for a really long time, a lot of the time under the guise of Muslim fundamentalism.
And when I mentioned this to Cori Bush, the response I got was that we've got to forget about those things that happened in the past.
And I was referencing specifically things that happened less than 100 years ago.
But, you know, her response was, you gotta forget what's happening in the past.
And to me, I was like, wait, this is like less than 100 years ago with Christian minorities, right?
In parts of the Middle East.
You constantly bring up what's been happening, you know, what's happened 200-300 years ago.
These are all, you know, crimes against humanity that should be looked at equally.
Like, if you want to bring up all the horrors of slavery, you should also be talking about why a lot of Immigrants are in this country because they escaped similar persecutions elsewhere.
We can't just brush down the rug.
And I got to tell you, I didn't get very positive responses.
She seemed to be very partial and biased to what she believes in while ignoring.
And frankly, it felt like, oh, that's white issues, which I found highly racist of her.
But, you know, I'd love to hear your response on that.
She has very selective outrage, that's all I can tell you.
I mean, like, for example, right now, of course, the government of Vladimir Zelensky in Ukraine is persecuting Christians and arresting priests and closing down churches and essentially trying to eliminate the Eastern Orthodox Church in Ukraine.
And nobody will say anything about that except Tucker Carlson, and I say it every day.
But, I mean, the bottom line is that Cori Bush thinks only black people are capable of being persecuted.
Only black people are capable of being victims of racism.
And they actually believe, and they do believe this, and they're not shy about saying it, that it's okay for a black person to be anti-white.
It's okay for a black person to be discriminatory against whites because minorities cannot be racist because racism requires power.
To qualify as a racist.
And therefore, they can be as anti-white as they want to be.
They can use all the pronouns and adjectives to distinguish themselves from traditional American culture, or from whites for that matter, with impunity from the accusation of racism because they claim minority and victim status and therefore racism cannot be applied to them.
And she's just, you know, she is very anti-white.
She is very racist.
The mayor of St.
Louis, Deshara Jones, is the same.
Our former prosecutor before she resigned in disgrace, Kim Gardner, was the same.
They make no pretense about it.
This isn't for equality.
This is for what they view as retribution.
And by the way, she's also anti-father, which I found very interesting.
Anti-male, which is very interesting, because if you actually look at why the black community was disseminated generation after generation, it's because of welfare.
Getting rid of the fathers, which leads to the fathers becoming the streets.
Denzel Washington's words, by the way, not mine.
And that leads to all kinds of gang carnage.
So the black community for three generations has been disseminated because of these bad choices, largely to do with removing the fathers from the family.
But that doesn't seem to be a topic that concerns her.
Yeah. You know, the only thing that concerns her...
Is right now reparations.
And I think that they claim, it was a number that was in her declaration regarding reparations, that the white people have extorted $97 trillion in forced labor out of African Americans.
And, you know, there were, at the time of the revolution, I believe there was about 1 million black people in the country.
At the time of the Civil War, I believe there were 4 million.
I tried to do the math to come up with $97 trillion worth of labor.
I couldn't do that math very easily.
But that's their preoccupation right now.
You know, one of the people who's on the reparations committee in California, I heard on Piers Morgan's show, and they said, well, how are you going to pay for it?
And he said, well, fortunately, that's not my job.
My job is to come up with a number that each of us deserve, not how you're going to pay for it.
All of this is just part of the bigger picture.
All these things are distractions to get the people in the United States to not pay attention to the big point.
And the big picture is the constant march towards the Great Reset for a single world socialist government and to keep you distracted with all these little issues, which aren't necessarily little issues, things like cocaine in the White House and the open borders and the war in Ukraine and serious issues,
but things that distract you from the real issue, and that is the The ultimate goal of a war where there's no personal freedom, there's no individualism, and we're all just cogs in the socialist wheel to have our human capital extracted for the benefit of the state.
It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable that the people do not have the intelligence of realizing that they are, you know, Cori Bush, if she gets what she wants, she's next.
She doesn't realize that. She is next.
She is the next to go to the slaughterhouse.
I mean, really, the people like us are the ones that are standing in the gap and trying to save her from essentially going back into a slave state because that's what they want.
I mean, if you're fighting slavery so much, why would you want To rewind the clock 400 years and put the entire world in an exact same slave state as where you came from.
Yeah. Well, think about the French Revolution or the Soviet Union or Red China.
All the people that believe that by supporting the totalitarian power structure, they're going to end up on top.
And what in the real world, that you just get ground up by the meat grinder along with tens of millions of other people.
And people don't seem to realize it.
One of the guys that I like describes it this way.
You know, if a cat steps on the burner on a hot stove, it will scream its head off and never go near that stove again.
Human beings don't seem to be nearly as smart as cats.
Generation after generation will commit the same fallacies, the same stupid decisions, and subject themselves intentionally to totalitarianism, thinking that somehow it's going to be to their personal benefit, only to end up in the guillotine or the gulags or in front of a firing squad.
Exactly, because one quick point.
Cats are using their instinct and discernment, and it seems as though when you look at how we have given up on our instinct and discernment, where we're given up on tradition, example being the COVID-19, you know, plandemic, right?
You know, people ignored what their family's wisdom had to tell them Versus what the government has to tell them.
They decided they're going to listen to the government versus listening to their own discernment, instinct, and the family wisdom.
So it seems as though they've separated us from what is, you know, probably the voice of God in our lives that tells instinctually you should do something or you shouldn't do something.
I mean, what do you guys think about that?
I mean, right now the facts are 1 in 20 of us will be incarcerated in our lifetime.
So we are becoming a prison state.
If you just walk down the street or drive down the street, you are committing so many different felonies and misdemeanors and now there's cameras all over to give you tickets.
I get tickets sent in the mail that I didn't even think could exist because there's secret cameras hidden everywhere and I'm not doing anything and I'm being treated like a criminal when the real criminals are not getting persecuted and prosecuted.
So right now, 1 in 20 American patriots will end up incarcerated.
And then you combine the, you know, cameras every place with face recognition technology.
Then you add into that central bank digital currency.
And I mean, that's the most frightening thing that the government is pushing right now.
Once you have no way to have independent assets because the government can just turn off your bank accounts, Or keep you from being able to transact business.
And once you can't escape because it watches you every place, and once you can't communicate with people of similar mindset because the government monitors all your conversations, then what the hell do you do?
We are already all slaves in this country because right now all we have is the freedom to agree with the government or be subject to persecution.
Exactly. You look at places like England.
I mean, talk about litmus test, right?
England, they have a camera that is watching every single individual nearly all the time.
And look what's happened in England.
Look at their march towards Germany.
Look at what happened in Canada with Trudeau seizing people's bank accounts and how conveniently their charter of rights, which is supposed to mimic our constitution, is written in a very vague fashion.
So literal tyrants like Justin Trudeau could interpret it how they want with their politicized Judges interpreting it how they want and thus taking away the tyranny to people.
A litmus test happening right north of us and people seem to be docile about what is coming here because it seems as though that plan of turning people's bank accounts off, of political persecution, of diluting our laws, seems to be the agenda over here with a lot of leftists.
Well, you know, what John Roberts wrote, Chief Justice Roberts wrote in the opinion regarding the women who refused to do a wedding site for same-sex marriage, that the government wanted to force her To say their words instead of her words.
Well, there's a pastor named Arthur Perlowski up in Canada.
He keeps getting arrested because the government there, during the height of COVID, the government issued an order to him that when he got done saying the truth, he then had to put a tagline on saying, what I just said was contrary to commonly accepted scientific knowledge.
I mean, he was forced by law in Canada to add that line to what he was saying when what he was saying was the truth.
And that I mean, that's just right next door in Canada.
And if you ever wanted to see how quickly you can lose all of your God-given rights, all you have to do is look a few miles north of where I am right now, and it's a totalitarian state.
Yep, yep, exactly, exactly.
I have these still images that Corinne sent a little bit earlier on the topic of what's happening at the university with Ralph Baric, the university that she is at right now.
Do you mind if I flash those real quick, Corinne, and talk us through it?
Oh yes, of course. Alright, so here is the first of them.
You showed us, apologies with the way this is formatted, but you sent this when we're talking.
Tell us about what's going on here.
I mean, basically, they're doing studies.
So basically, what these professors are doing, they're doing studies basically for dirt cheap free on the students that go here on everything.
Look at this. It says SNAP Federal Food Assistance Program.
Why would they be doing a study on the SNAP Federal Food Assistance Program at the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
Why? Because they're conditioning the students.
They're testing their brains.
They're seeing what they'll put up with, what they won't put up with.
Our children in these colleges are being used right now as guinea pigs.
So I really want parents to understand this because I end up going to conferences across America where all the parents understand that things are happening, but they don't realize it's happening right now.
Right now, our colleges are using our children to study how they can survive with federal food assistance programs.
Shocking. Well, I'm going to put another one.
And it says, addressing food insecurity problems on campus.
There's no food insecurity problem.
So this is just really shocking.
I really want people to understand this.
And I'm grateful Mark is on the show watching this because this is happening now today.
Okay, today. This is not from one year ago.
This is July 18th, 2023 at the University Chapel in North Carolina.
They're asking students.
Ralph Baric is doing this. He's asking students to study this.
Okay? It's just shocking to me.
This is what they actually have on the walls.
They're not even hiding it.
And that's one thing people always say, you know, they never hide what they're doing if we just watch.
And that's why what Mark is saying is so important.
They're trying to make it illegal for us to bear arms, and that's our Second Amendment right.
And that's why we really have to expose this, but investigating the factors that influence the pan, beta coronavirus infection and immune protection.
So basically, they're making up words They're seeing what the kids can withstand.
They're slowly integrating the powers that be that are run by the elite of the elite, the most rich men in the world who have islands and private planes and banks and we don't even know their name because they don't go in public.
That is who's controlling us and they're based out of Switzerland now.
We know that at least. We know the men that are trying to control us are based out of Switzerland, but men like Mark, men like them, men like Everyone and all the American patriots I see who are getting persecuted and prosecuted for January 6th were getting picked on.
Anyone that has stood up or will stand up will get picked on while our students in these colleges are getting experimented on with these insane studies.
And Ralph Baric even puts his name on this.
He's not scared. Ralph Baric in Chapel Hill is considered a hero.
Can you believe that? Wow, wow.
So, here's another one.
So, have you recently tested positive for COVID-19?
I mean, this is actually happening right now, huh?
Yes. Yes.
Yes, and so they're still doing tests, and they're trying to get anyone that they can possibly get dirt cheap to do this.
And they have tons and tons.
This is their public bulletin board.
There are tons of tests.
So what I like to do is I like to spend a couple days studying what they're studying and seeing how they're going to set us up in the future.
COVID-19 is normal at the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
They think I'm crazy.
They arrested me once for being here.
They could try to arrest me again, but I'm willing to stand up.
I'm willing to take the hit because I'm a real investigative journalist, and I want to expose the fact that this is considered normal.
Now they're telling on this one, yeah.
What is going on here?
Sorry, this image is a little small.
It's probably hard for the viewer to see.
Could you explain what's going on here?
So basically, this is the propaganda that they're giving to the students on why they should take vaccines and how important vaccines are.
While you and I and people like Mark were standing up across America trying to educate our children and all of their friends, don't take the vaccines.
In the meantime, the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina and their students We are getting used.
We are not being told the truth.
Programmed, basically brainwashed, you know, why vaccines are important by university professors who are making millions of dollars on the side, trying to make sure that we get propaganda in our brain.
So this here last image that you have is the Student Affairs Board.
Is that where all this propaganda is placed?
Yes, and it's all over every lobby, all over the University of Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
I'm not even going to talk about Duke University right now because my beloved daughter goes there and she asked me, she said, Mom, you can come whenever you want, but never talk about Duke.
So I have to not go into Duke yet.
But when the time is right, I'm going to expose it all because I've been tracking this since 2021.
The university professors are the problem and they're making money on the side, making sure that we lose our rights.
Take it from there, Mark.
Mark knows the truth. What's the truth, Mark?
Question about your daughter real quick before we go to Mark.
As a young lady, I'm imagining she's probably in her late teens, early 20s.
She's over 21, so I can talk about her now.
So what is her point of view on all this stuff?
She wants me to do what I'm doing, but she wants me to make money.
There's some months I can barely make money to pay rent.
I can barely make money to buy food because I come from a superpower rich family and they cut me off because I got arrested in 2021 at the University Chapel in North Carolina investigating Professor Ralph Barak.
All charges were dropped.
I had an incredible lawyer who actually went to University Chapel in North Carolina and he sits on one of the boards.
I'm not going to expose too much.
But the bottom line is that everything I said was true.
And I think that average people, like I just had a student walk up to me and give me his phone number and say I need to talk to him private about this.
People are terrified and they want to know the truth.
They don't want to get kicked out of school.
But people want me to do this investigative research.
They really do. And so I have to be careful what I say.
So yes, My daughter wants me to do this, but she doesn't want me to do it at her university and she doesn't want me to do it where it affects her or her friends or her social status or her ability to make money or her ability to be an Instagram model or whatever she wants to do.
She doesn't want me to make sure she wants to make sure it doesn't affect her, which I understand and she's 21 now.
Is she drinking the mainstream media Kool-Aid or is she actually open to some of these other facts?
She was. She was in the beginning drinking the mainstream media.
She does not believe in the Second Amendment.
She doesn't believe in gun rights.
I don't want to speak for her too much, but the bottom line is that these children are getting so brainwashed.
One of the professors here actually has, I hate to say this, I'm just going to tell you the truth, has a class that the children take and he teaches you how to use sex toys.
Why would anyone ever agree with that?
The first year, 2021, I contacted him.
I'm not going to tell you what I said until later, but the bottom line is that we have to have the Second Amendment.
I'm willing to risk everything to have the Second Amendment, and that's why what Mark has to say is so important, because as I'm an investigative journalist and I start, you know, I tell you guys the truth, I tell you, you know, we're going to have to stand up, non-violent, of course, at one time, and the government and the universities and the professors should fear us.
We're the parents, and we should be respected, and we're not.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
This is all awesome information.
Do you have any more questions for Mark, Corinne?
I mean, Mark, I just wanted to know very specifically, because I track the political prisoner situation happening in the United States of America, and in the beginning it was because of January 6th, but obviously now people who stand up for the Second Amendment are getting persecuted and prosecuted.
People who don't want abortion, who are Christian and Catholic, are getting persecuted and prosecuted.
Did they actually throw you in jail?
Did you spend any time in prison or jail?
No, we didn't. I'll tell you briefly the fun story on that.
We'd been told that we were going to get Roger stoned, right?
That they're going to kick in the front doors and flashbang us.
And so we got to the point where we were sleeping like firemen with our pants and our bootlegs and all that kind of stuff.
So we got a call from our lawyer one morning saying that's going to happen today.
You got to get out of there.
You got to get me $100,000 in cash today for your bail.
And so this is during COVID, right?
So you imagine, you know, 8 o'clock in the morning trying to come up with $100,000 in cash.
We had a bank that liked us, and one of their customers was doing a cash transaction that day.
So they allowed us to take their money.
We get met by a former area director of the FBI down at the bank to escort us up to the lawyer's office, drop off the money of the lawyer, But since we got the heads up, I put this sign in the front door that said, these doors haven't done anything wrong.
Please don't break them.
If you want to arrest us, call this number and we'll turn ourselves in.
Then I had a couple of my private security guys standing out in front of the house.
I set up two lawn chairs in the front yard.
And had a pitcher of margaritas made so that when we came back, we'd lay out in the lawn chairs, have our margaritas and spoil their fun.
Well, as we're driving back into the neighborhood, we saw the assault vehicle set up, whole line of SUVs and police cars ready to come in and raid us.
But by then, they realized that we had spoiled their fun because they were ready for it.
And so then they just agreed to allow us to appear without having to get arrested.
But I mean, they were all set up to do it.
But the bottom line is, if you're not afraid of them, And you're willing to stand up and say, you know, we will mock your attempt to invade our rights.
They sometimes back down.
And what you were saying a minute ago about we have to stand up peacefully, of course, the fact that we have to stand up peacefully goes without saying.
But the reason we'll be allowed to stand up peacefully is because the government will fear we've got the ability to do it otherwise if we have to.
Exactly. I'm going to let in a new gentleman here that just came in, Eric Diem.
Eric, how you doing, sir?
Outstanding. Thank you for having me.
Yeah, thank you for being on our AHN News Live.
So if we could just dive into, sir, who you are, what you do.
My camera's tweaking out a little bit, so I might actually turn it on and be audio only.
But if you could give us a little introduction to who you are, sir.
Sure, absolutely. I'm a retired lieutenant special assignment from the NYPD. I've been coined as the most complained cop in NYPD history as a result of an overzealous civilian complaint review board.
My job consists of critical analysis of gun violence, particularly in the South Bronx, as a special operations lieutenant.
So I apprehended the most violent perpetrators that are in possession of illegal firearms, responsible for shootings, real volatile stuff.
What's the truth? So what's the truth?
Because, you know, Sal told me to have you on the show because you know the truth about gun violence.
What's the bare truth?
Let's just get to the core of everything.
What's the truth about gun violence?
Absolutely. I'm glad that you asked that.
My boots were on the ground for 18 years and 9 months.
18 years and 9 months, I rose to the rank of lieutenant special assignment.
I was always in proactive doing intrusive police work, operations, and units.
And what I found in my experience, in the entire time, I'd never arrested a legal gun owner that used that firearm to do illegal violence or any type of harm with it.
Anyone that I arrested with a firearm obtained that firearm illegally.
Wow. Wow.
That is very fascinating.
That said when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, right?
And it's never been truer. That's so serious.
So what do we do?
Yeah. I'm curious, Eric, you know, what are the day-to-day things that you do in terms of trying to preserve our Second Amendment?
Well, that's interesting that you say that.
So, that's kind of an odd...
That's kind of an odd moment for a lieutenant working in the New York City Police Department.
I mean, New York City is one of the most anti-gun cities, and the hypocrisy to that is we have some of the most gun violence in the entire country.
And what's interesting about that is we can make the correlation and we can see that if we look at countries throughout the entire world that are anti-gun, that don't have any guns at all, they have some of the most violence in the entire world.
So it's very interesting to preserve guns.
It was my job to apprehend violent perpetrators that used those firearms illegally and they were doing harm with it.
Again, as I said, anyone that was in possession of a legal firearm, they were proud to have it.
They went through a background check, and they used that firearm appropriately, as it says in the Second Amendment, for self-defense purposes and to bear arms.
You know what? Rudy Giuliani and I were having dinner one night, and we were comparing.
Actually, Bernie Kerrick and I were comparing The crime levels in New York City versus St.
Louis, where I live. 8,400,000 residents in New York City.
At that point that year, they'd had about 300 murders.
Only 300,000 people in the city of St.
Louis itself. And at that point, we'd had 262 murders.
So almost 20 times the murder rate of New York City and St.
Louis. And it's not because honest gun owners were out there shooting each other.
It's because criminals were killing people with illegal guns and almost always over drugs.
It was all black-on-black violence.
Wow, wow. And that's something that he said, black-on-black violence.
You say that, they call us a bunch of racists.
But how could you escape those facts?
Go ahead, Eric. Well, I'm glad that you said it.
So, my partner and I, from our podcast, New York's Fines Retired Unfiltered Podcast, we do a 265 police live series where we analyze police-related events.
And what we have found is it's the politics, the legislation.
It's truly, we see it right now in New York City, where you have a crime crisis in New York City.
You talked about the Giuliana era.
Giuliani era was proactive in doing intrusive police work.
They support the cops and the legislation support the cops to address broken windows.
It was a system that allowed the cops to be intrusive, to address the low level crimes, to address quality of life issues, which ultimately Addressed the bigger issues.
And the problem now is we have a New York City Council that is stripping away at the New York City Police Department day by day.
These council members are in competition with one another to virtue signal by stripping away from the police department, limiting and inhibiting them from the police department from doing their job.
So the guns are not the problem.
The problem is that we're putting criminals as priority number one.
And we can see it in most prevalent post-George Floyd era, where The legislation has created this system where it allows the criminals to run free.
Why? Because they want to pander to this black and brown community.
In New York City, 96% of the violence surrounded by guns, the perpetrators and also victims of shootings are black and brown.
So if we remove the legislation so we do not criminalize and jail black and brown, we pander to that movement.
That's our problem. It's not a racial problem.
It's a criminal problem. It's a criminal problem.
And one of the solutions, I mean, we were talking about this earlier, right?
So I know quite a few individuals that do prison ministries.
And the thing that I always hear is that there's not many Asian prisoners.
There's not many Jewish prisoners.
Mormon prisoners seem to be, you know, very rare, right?
Researching why it is that way, he seemed to find that whenever children come from strong family structures, they don't land in prison, meaning mother, father in the home.
But whenever there's, you know, single motherhood, sometimes single fatherhood, those tend to be the primary numbers of prisoners, right?
So, I mean, that's an obvious formula.
Hey, strengthen the family, less people in prison.
Am I crazy here?
What do you have to say about that comment?
Well, I'll go first on that one.
You know, from my basic perspective, that everything is designed to create this single-world socialist government.
If you want a worldwide tyranny, there can only be one parent, and that's the state.
Just like there can only be one religion, and that's the state.
So you tear down the family structure, And here's another one.
Next time you see a new public high school being built, see if you can tell the difference in its architecture from a prison.
I mean, everything is being designed to be bland, monotone, without personality, without beauty, and getting people trained to live this life where they're always subject to the coercive arm of the government and they have no moral basis.
They have this, what Emile Durkheim called anomia, normlessness.
That the government can then use to manipulate people any way they want to.
But if you have a lawless society, what do people say?
Ooh, there ought to be a law.
We need more government to save us from crime.
And it's a very government that's creating more crime so that people will ask for more government to protect them from the crime the government itself is creating.
Yeah, if I can give a personal story on that topic of building these buildings like prisons, right?
I remember I was a music video director back in a different lifetime.
2003, I was in Chicago doing a video for DMX, actually, and we went to the projects over there, and I remember the head of the record label.
It was run by two gentlemen, D and Wah, both brothers.
Rough Riders was the name of the record label.
And Wahoo, I developed a friendship with, gave me a tour of the projects.
And he said, look at how these projects are built.
They're built just like prisons.
This is the highway from basically growing up right into the prison.
You have a bunch of kids here without fathers that are going to join these gangs.
And unlike some of the other gangs, Rough Riders, they had mentoring groups.
Four children. There was a lot of males within, you know, that whatever gang record label, whatever you want to call it, that were actually mentoring these kids to not go down paths in life that some of their members had gone down, which is usually they don't have good male mentorship.
They end up pretty much in the highway from the projects to the prisons.
Love to hear your guys' thoughts on that.
Who would you like to go first? You know, hey, why don't you, Eric?
Well, I'm glad you say that.
So it's funny you say that because I actually was...
I worked in housing in the New York City Housing Authority under the New York City Police Department for the majority of my career.
I was an anti-crime sergeant working in the housing projects in the Lower East Side of Manhattan.
And I was also the Special Operations Lieutenant in the housing project in the South Bronx.
And yes, there is a correlation with that.
The appearance of it...
It does somewhat appear to be somewhat like a prison.
The actual front of the buildings are far from the street.
The courtyards themselves, you have to go in a pathway.
They're surrounded by buildings.
It's almost built like a fortress.
So I do think there is a point to what you're saying.
I agree. But I think ultimately what the problem I find is that there's a parallel between morals and man's law.
And in the home structure, which you're talking about, and this is where I agree, where both parents are home and You learn morals, and most of those morals are online, on parallel with law.
So that's where it starts, and if you're missing that link at home, then you're not understanding right from wrong when you go out to the real world, and there's never any actual adverse consequence.
And ultimately, I think that's where the problem starts, and that's the parallel with moral and man's law.
When we were growing up, we had this kind of commonly held morality.
We had commonly held cultural traditions with the concept of what was right and what was wrong.
These days, the concept is, if you can get away with it, do it.
It's not like, do we independently assess whether this is morally correct or not?
No. If I can steal it, if I can break through that window and steal those tennis shoes and get away with it, we're doing it because we can.
And just because you can do something doesn't make it right.
You didn't need to have all the law enforcement when everybody had a commonly shared morality and a commonly shared sense of what is right and wrong.
And you didn't have the disrespect for the police.
You didn't have the violence against the police because the police were respected For upholding that kind of moral integrity of society.
And why is everybody trying to villainize the police, right?
To create this diversity, to create this division between a population that wants to do whatever it can get away with and to try to paint the police as those evil people that try to persecute us for doing our God-given right to steal tennis shoes when we can.
I mean, I have a really specific question for Eric, because I'm really interested in New York City.
I was just there for 10 days.
My mom lives in Manhattan.
And, you know, I have a lot of encounters with the Antifa groups out there.
And I'm wondering, what's the truth?
Why don't the police in New York City, why doesn't the New York PD do anything with the Antifa groups in New York City?
I'm glad that you asked that.
So we have an extreme problem with the New York City Police Department, especially under the tenure of former Mayor de Blasio.
And now here we are into Mayor de Blasio 2.0 under Mayor Eric Adams.
And what's going on with the New York City Police Department is just weak cowardice leadership.
Absolutely no leadership under Mayor Adams.
Complete identity politics has now entered the New York City Police Department.
It's pandering to this movement out there, and we're stripping away from actually addressing law.
The New York City Police Department has been handcuffed by the New York City Council and the New York City Civilian Complaint Review Board to do proactive and intrusive police work.
And that's what brings down crime.
And when they give out these numbers and say that we're down.16%, it's absolutely ridiculous.
What we should be asked of is what numbers are they giving you?
What years are they comparing this to?
They're not comparing this to 2018 and 2019.
The numbers are extremely up right now.
They compare it to 1993, and that's not even fair.
It's a completely different world at the time.
At the time, police officers were carrying pages.
Now they have cell phones. It's not even in comparison.
Crime is out of control in New York City, and that's because we enabled and empowered, and we put the criminal as priority number one, and we stripped away All these opportunities for police officers to do intrusive police work.
I got to ask this question.
You know, when I was out there, I lived in New York between 2002 and 2005.
I'm going to try to turn my camera on here.
Hopefully it's working. So I lived there and I did music videos and stuff.
And I actually worked in Harlem a lot.
I worked in a lot of different neighborhoods like Yonkers.
And what I noticed, especially in Harlem, is that, you know, you had literal blocks there that were like trap houses and drug houses, right?
And again, I get back to the, you know, kids without fathers in the home becoming part of gangs at a very young age.
Is that a problem that is still, I mean, and I go back to this is like a 2003 fact that I just brought up, right?
Is that still going on in those neighborhoods?
Absolutely. It's extremely unfortunate.
So I retired from the New York City Police Department in September, so it's almost a year.
But what I can tell you, working in the New York City Police Department, especially in housing, as a special operational tenant in the South Bronx, it was extremely prevalent.
And I worked in PSA 7, which is Police Service Area 7, and we encompassed the confines of the 4-0 precinct and the 4-2 precinct in the South Bronx.
And the 4-0 precinct in the South Bronx has the highest concentration of housing projects in New York City.
And I have housing projects that are literally right next to each other that are separated by an intersection where the kids as old or as young as 15 years old cannot even cross the street unless they join that gang for protection.
And if they don't, Those kids are stuck inside the entire day.
So they're forced to. There's plenty of kids I have arrested.
They did not want to be a part of that environment, but they were forced to be involved in that life.
Yeah. Honestly, it sounds like 15-minute city is what you're describing.
I mean, there's a lot of parallels between what you're saying and these 15-minute cities that they have planned for us.
In terms of the captivity of a human being, almost like a concentration cap in a way.
You can't have certain movement because for whatever reason, above your head, you are not allowed to have that movement.
Sounds like different forms of tyranny that are very similar.
I mean, when I was in New York for the first 10 days of July, I was investigating where the migrants are being housed.
So, I was exposing very specific hotels that are being paid for by your New York City government, obviously.
What do you think about that?
Every time I got close to really getting a good interview, one of the paid, hourly paid security guards, not police, New York City police are always very kind to me.
But the paid security threatened to have me arrested.
I'm like, I don't think paid security can get me arrested.
But the bottom line is that what do you think, Eric, about these places that are being paid for?
It's a million dollars a day, allegedly, allegedly, that New York City is paying to house migrants.
Well, I'm so glad that you asked that.
So this question that we need to ask, we need to ask why New York City Mayor Eric Adams, in a city right now that is in dire straits, Just completely volatile by the crime crisis right now.
I mean, New York City, the economy is just getting destroyed.
Businesses are leaving left and right.
Why do we want something like this?
We have to ask, what does he have to gain?
What are his friends involved in?
What circle are they involved in? How do they benefit in commercial real estate and real estate of things as such?
That's the question we should be asking.
And also, my partner and I talk about this on the podcast.
Look at these migrants. You see an average of 18 to 25-year-old males who look like they have the ability to be in the military.
Have they been vetted yet?
I don't know. I mean, do we know their criminal histories?
This is a huge safety issue.
And especially right now with the New York City Police Department is having a mass exodus and a huge recruitment problem.
We cannot manage this.
It's just bearing on our taxpayers.
You know, being old enough to remember what New York City was like before Rudy Giuliani and after or during Rudy Giuliani.
I mean, when I started going to New York City on business when I was younger, there was a homeless camp in Central Park.
Every property was spray-painted as high up as a man standing on somebody else's shoulders could reach.
It was filthy. It was disgusting.
It was dangerous. Then Rudy came in as mayor.
And, you know, I used to take the bus in from Newark to the old Vista Hotel at the World Trade Center.
Anywhere in New York City I felt like on the subway felt perfectly safe.
The city was clean. It was orderly.
And it got turned around in a very short period of time.
So you can fix the problem if you have political will.
If you didn't have somebody like Eric Adams, if you had somebody like Rudy Giuliani and somebody who is willing to stand up for the law-abiding, God-fearing citizens in New York and say, my job is to make their lives better, not to make the lives of criminals better.
I mean, I said this at the Republican convention two years ago, that our SARS-funded prosecutor in St.
Louis really views her job as protecting criminals against honest citizens instead of protecting citizens against criminals.
And you see that all over the country.
Yep, yep, exactly, exactly.
This has been an incredible episode of AHN News Live, guys.
I really appreciate everybody.
Is there anything in closing that any of you want to say?
You know, let's start with Corinne.
I mean, I think it's really important to see what's happening to President Donald Trump.
I just want to know, like Mark, do you think that President Donald Trump, if he's elected again, do you think he'll solve these problems that we're having?
If he can't, nobody will.
I say this every day.
The reason why the media and the left is out to destroy Donald Trump so much is they don't care what other Republican candidate might win the presidency, because no one else will have the force of will, the charisma, and just the big cojones to make it happen.
But I say this every day.
I say it today and I'll say it tomorrow.
But you can't expect the cavalry to come riding over the hill.
You can't hope that the government is going to solve this problem for you.
You can't hope that the government is going to turn things around because there's too much entrenched.
They've been spending over 100 years stripping our rights away and solidifying their power base.
The only way this is going to Get fixed, because each and every one of us takes our own personal stand for freedom and says we will not tolerate this totalitarianism.
We will not vote for people like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell.
We will demand that people respect the Constitution, respect our rights, or by God, if they don't, we'll take care of it ourselves.
That is said so eloquently.
Okay, Eric, I have a quick question for you because this always happens to me.
If you were still a New York City police officer, if you were not retired and you were actually active, and it was like, I don't know, July 5th and I was in New York City and I was in front of a hotel that I was investigating to see if migrants were being housed there and I was told that I was going to get arrested by paid security, okay, because I was trespassing.
Would you arrest me, Eric, for trespassing?
What would you do? How would you handle that?
I'm a journalist, by the way.
I'm a journalist. How would you, knowing that I'm a journalist, how would you handle me?
Well, that's a great question.
Absolutely. If you're following the guidelines and you're out there as a journalist and you have your press pass and you're out there filming, you have a right to film, it's the First Amendment.
I'm not going to impede that.
As long as you're not entering a private location...
And entering a location that is unauthorized, I would not impede that at all.
That's your right. I'm not going to impede any rights.
And no police officer should.
Again, if you're entering a private location that's completely unauthorized access, that's a completely different story.
But just for filming, that's your right.
It's your First Amendment right. Police officers, especially in New York City, are very comfortable with that and they experience that on a daily basis, every day.
I myself know it.
Listen, I've been calling this the most complained cop.
You can just Google most complained cop and you can see many videos.
I was filmed on a daily basis, so absolutely not.
Thank you. Thank you for your time, Mark.
You're incredible. Thank you for your time, Eric.
Appreciate it. Appreciate the opportunity.
Yes, to talk uncensored.
That's what America Happens News does.
We let you talk uncensored.
You know we're brand new. We're just two or three months old.
So we're gonna get really into the swing of things in September, October.
Because a lot of things are happening with media, even on our side.
Conservative media. Everyone that I know is getting persecuted or prosecuted.
Look at Steve Bannon.
Look at Roger Stone.
Look at Alex Jones.
So we need to prepare.
Because when we start telling the truth, Femme, We gotta be careful about what's gonna happen.
I'd like to say something for a moment if I can.
Yes, sir. Sure.
On a local level, I'm actually very symbolic of what you're talking about.
Exactly. So Roger Stone has been the limelight the same way.
Sal Greco, who was a New York City police officer, was terminated for his alliance with Roger Stone.
But I myself have been a victim of this as well.
I ran one of the most illustrious special operations unit, the entire New York City Police Department.
In PSA 7, which is Police Service Area 7, the South Bronx, we apprehended the most amount of firearms three years in a row.
Our police work was extensive, doing intrusive police work.
We really made a better quality of life for residents of the South Bronx.
And I was attacked by an overzealous civilian complaint review board, being an alpha white male and working in the South Bronx.
And eventually I had to make the decision to retire because I was just completely attacked and I could not do the job that I was paid and trained to do anymore.
Unfortunately, Police officers right now are forced to sit on their hands and they cannot help with public safety.
So it's just extremely unfortunate to watch this unravel.
Yeah, yeah. And you know, I'm not a New Yorker, but I lived in New York and I felt like what it's like to be a New Yorker.
And I got to tell you, out of all the people I've met around the world, I mean, calling New Yorkers like yourself racist.
I mean, I know where you're from, man, without even knowing you.
I know the kind of neighborhoods you grew up in.
I know from your accent that you are not a racist white man.
You are actually a multicultural individual because New York is the ultimate melting pot.
It's like, I don't know how you could be a Ku Klux Klan white supremacist living in New York because you'd literally have, like, the hives all the time.
Like, how could you do that? How could you go on the subways?
How could you go into cabs? How could you walk around New York City being a classic racist as they try to represent us to be?
It's just the... The notion of that is so ridiculous, but I gotta tell you, Eric, I really appreciate having your street knowledge, because that street knowledge, the things that...
Man, I know what you know, and I've probably seen 1% of what you've seen, and that's the reality of what's happening out there.
When you know exactly what's going on, where you know the root of the problems, and this is part of the inherent issues with our public officials, that they are truly ignorant, they have no idea what's happening on the streets, They want to act like they know what's happening on the streets, but they have no semblance of what's happening out there.
And the streets ultimately dictate what happens in the future.
And, you know, we all know that there's nonsense happening on the streets.
And there's communities that need support in different ways than they are being supported right now.
And I got to tell you, the biggest topic that pops into mind is the issue of fatherlessness, is the issue of the family structure, because that is...
99.9% the reason why our prisons are so filled, the reason why we have crime to the level of what we have right now, and Democrats seem to completely want to ignore those inherent issues with the family structure and what will actually fix a lot of these issues for generations to come.
So anyway, just my last little rant there.
I don't know if you guys have anything else to say, but...
I would just like to say thank you so much for that.
It's very important that we understand that the power of social media, and I think the key to success is communication.
And you asked before, how can we do this peacefully?
That's the whole point of my podcast right now with my partner John McCary.
The point of the podcast is opposition meets opportunity.
We have to discuss with people who are in alliance with one another and also speak with opposition.
The key to success is communication.
And unfortunately, most people, when they observe police work and And politics as such, they suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect.
And what does that mean? The Dunning-Kruger effect was a study in the 90s by two professors, Dunning and Kruger, where they found that the least amount someone knows about a subject, the more they think they can do it.
So that's why we have to communicate with one another so that we can actually explain to each other how something works from our own experiences.
Thank you, everyone, for having me.
I really appreciate it. New York City, please follow us at New York's Finest Retirement Filtered Podcast.
Thank you so much. Awesome, awesome.
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Thank you, Corinne. Thank you, Mark.
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