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Oct. 1, 2023 - Blood Money

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Escaping the Persecution of Journalists w/ Niko House (Blood Money Episode 115)

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	So, let's get started. Let's go.
	So,
	Alright, welcome to the latest episode of Blood Money.
	Today we have a very special guest, Nico House.
	How are you doing, sir? I'm doing pretty well, man.
	How about yourself? I'm excited, man.
	I'm excited. I'm a big fan.
	Let's just dive right into it in terms of your background before we dive into the nitty gritty drama that's going on right now.
	Tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got started in journalism and who you are.
	So funny enough, I actually didn't go to school for journalism, even though...
	So I graduated from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and they have one of the most famous J schools in the country.
	But I didn't go to school for journalism.
	And I went to school for comparative politics, Portuguese, and Korean.
	But while I was there, I was working...
	I ended up starting the largest Bernie Sanders organization in the country, which is like a long story.
	But it was successful, as successful as it can be in our current system anyway.
	And that drew a lot of attention.
	And then whenever I discovered the cheating that was taking place within the Democratic primary, and I was outlining and detailing how I figured it out, and that obviously required me to explain certain, to do certain political details that people hadn't really been accustomed to from, to be frank, somebody at my age, because I was 26, 27 at the time.
	So I was pretty young. Yeah, and I was, like, literally, like, always talking to the political consultants and, like, a lot of journalists that were doing the specific type of journalism that I was doing, they were all speaking from a perspective of a journalist or an analyst or whatever.
	But, like, I was somebody on YouTube who didn't come from a major network, who actually had done the work on the ground and was talking to people and had knocked on doors, but also had created strategies All that good stuff.
	So people were just interested to hear what I had to say.
	And that's kind of how it got started.
	Every time I would go more than a day without going on camera, people would be like, where you at, man?
	Like, you're going to talk?
	Stuff is happening. We need to know how we're feeling about it.
	Isn't that funny?
	I mean, they're looking for an authentic voice like the whole citizen, journalist, independent journalist movement.
	I mean, they seem to be done with the whole Mockingbird media nonsense and thirsty for what you got to offer and what people like you have to offer.
	Yeah, and this was at the advent of the Facebook Live movement.
	You remember how that shit was supposed to be just for parents to film their kids' birthday parties and shit like that.
	Everybody became a citizen journalist.
	That's kind of how we ended up blowing up.
	I could go live from anywhere.
	And we just call a lot of people doing a lot of fucked up shit.
	Excuse my language. No, no, no.
	I mean, I was like watching that whole 2016 election and it was just like, I mean, Bernie Sanders got like robbed, robbed, robbed.
	And in fact, twice, right?
	It happened in 2002, right?
	Yeah. And I would say even more so the people got robbed.
	My biggest beef with Bernie is that he took hundreds of millions of dollars from the poor people he was running to represent and didn't fight for them.
	I mean, I was one of the co-founders of the DNC for All Lawsuit alongside Jerry Elizabeth Lebeck.
	We got all the way up to the Supreme Court.
	They literally just held it at the Supreme Court until Joe Biden becomes a nominee.
	I think Clarence Thomas is the one who decides whether or not he gets hurt.
	Like, the system is corrupt from its core.
	Like, if you don't know, like, Joe Biden's the reason that Clarence Thomas got his job instead of being just kicked out of, you know, being de-barred forever.
	So, like, that's the kind of system that we're dealing with, but, like, at least I can say that, like, I fought.
	You know, Jared and Liz can say that they fought.
	There are a lot of people who at least say, like, yo, yeah, I don't support what Bernie Sanders has become.
	I didn't... I can't acknowledge the good that his movement brought, but at the same time, he's not the guy that I worked for at the time.
	But at the same time, I can say that those people who may have...
	Yeah, Bernie himself turned out to be not the bee's knees, but the people who fought.
	I have a lot of respect because fighting back then, man, you cannot have a career today.
	And that's real. Yeah, I mean, that's a reality for anybody that goes against the establishment.
	You know, some people say the deep state, that there is a price to pay for going against the industrial complex.
	Absolutely, 100%. Jared, some people don't know, Jared, one of the co-founders of the DNC for All Laws, he doesn't practice law anymore.
	Because the entire court system has been thrown against him.
	They found out who he is.
	They found out who Liz is.
	And they just automatically sink their cases or dismiss their cases outright before even hearing this.
	I'm going to throw something at you before we dive deeper into this topic that, to me, I believe is the inherent issue.
	And I want to see if you agree or disagree here, right?
	We have three branches of government.
	We're supposed to have checks and balances in those three branches of government for them to oversee each other, to stop corrupting.
	It's happening like this, right?
	But our judicial branch is controlled by the Bar Association.
	Our legislature is controlled by the Bar Association.
	Now, the judicial is obviously controlled by the Bar Association.
	The legislature, people don't talk about how it's controlled by the Bar Association.
	But the reality is that you have 75% plus attorneys in there that are bar agents, bar members, creating laws to benefit the bar, to benefit the financial upside of the legal industry.
	So how can you have... I mean, isn't that inherently a broken system that without checks and balances, you're never gonna have the kind of things that are our constitutional rights?
	No, you're 100% correct.
	You know, it's funny. So I was supposed to go to Harvard Law School.
	Literally like that, I gave up Harvard Law to pursue the DNC for our lawsuit, which I guess is kind of ironic.
	And as I was about to reapply for school, Jared Beck was the one who told me, because he went to Harvard Law, he went there for undergrad and for his, he went there for grad, undergrad, and for law school.
	And he was like, don't become a lawyer.
	And I was like, why not? He was like, well, you would be an amazing lawyer.
	I'm like, oh, I appreciate it. He's like, and it would be in incredible ways.
	He's like, because law, he said, you would practice law because you want justice, but that's not what the justice system is for.
	And it would be a waste of your talents.
	And I was like, what? And then as a DNC fraud lawsuit unfolded, and as I got to understand it, it was the best internship that never happened, basically.
	Because I had a legal system for what it was intricately at a class action level for something that was going to change the country.
	It did, even though we didn't get It was always wanted.
	It still changed the country. It changed the way that people perceive politics.
	And it changed the way I perceive the law.
	And you're absolutely right.
	People don't understand. So for example, the executive branch They pick the FBI. They select the head of the FBI. They select the head of the CIA. And yeah, Congress confirms it, but like, we all know how that goes.
	Like, yeah, of course we're going to confirm it.
	Like, it doesn't matter what, they're going to put on a show because that's their job, but they're going to confirm whatever the president chooses because most of the time, whatever the president chooses was selected before they even came into office.
	So how can we have any accountability for a CIA or an FBI director or a federal judge or a U.S. attorney?
	People think that a U.S. attorney or a federal judge is selected in the same way that a district attorney or a district judge is selected.
	No, maybe in other countries, but not in ours.
	Our country is very unique in the way that we constrict the system to Yeah, all politics is local, sure.
	But at the end of the day, the fact that we're not taking accountability for the corruption at the federal level, the rest of the world is paying for it.
	Yep. Yep. Totally.
	Can you freeze, by the way, or is it still moving?
	No, I'm still here. I'm still here.
	Okay, I'm gonna throw something at you because, you know, what I've noticed is that racial division is being used to create a lot of noise, right?
	This is my opinion, but I believe it is an educated opinion.
	Now, people talk about how, frankly, the judicial system has been very unkind and unjust to the Black community for a real long time.
	That is a fact. I've seen it.
	I've lived it. My experience is I'm a kid that was raised in the suburbs, but I was a music video director at one point.
	What helped me to do is I started doing a lot of hip hop videos, going to neighborhoods and doing, you know, really capturing slice of life type videos, right?
	And that taught me a lot about what's going on because I started hanging out with people that are coming from different walks of life and understanding how they're persecuted, right?
	But the more I studied, I realized that, you know, the way the powers that be, they try to say this is a white versus black thing.
	And what I've realized is, no, it's a bar versus black and white.
	You know what I mean? What do you think about that statement?
	So I would say like, yeah, yeah, in essence, in totality, you are correct, right?
	But I will also say this.
	It's the system.
	It's class versus really, it's like the poor.
	I won't say the poor because not everybody's poor, but it's them versus us to make it very simplistic.
	But on the other side of that fence, It's like a car.
	It's like a BMW. Let's just say tires are racism.
	The engine is racism.
	Tires are sexism.
	Your gas tank is capitalism, whatever you want to call it.
	The corruption of the economy.
	Your car can't run if your engine is broke.
	Your car is not going anywhere if your tires are flat.
	So at the end of the day, the car is the problem.
	You need your car to be put together, to be running functionally.
	But at the same time, you can't ignore the flat tire, right?
	They use these mechanisms against...
	So there are people who, in an attempt to uplift the narrative, the correct narrative, that it is us versus them, they make these attempts to dismiss the tire, to dismiss the ultimative.
	Like, no, y'all plate is still broke, bro.
	That's how they're keeping us here.
	Like, yeah, you're screaming, the car is broken down.
	But every time I say, well, yeah, but should we check the alternator?
	Fuck, you're worried about the alternator for it.
	You get what I'm saying?
	You're 100% correct.
	And the truth of it is, we need to worry about both at the same time.
	Every conversation that we have about race needs to be in the correct context.
	It doesn't need to be.
	It's those black people versus those white people.
	Because that isn't what it is.
	It is, perhaps, a certain group of white people who have been turned against black people, but they have been propagandized, just like black people have been propagandized by people who believe themselves to be above both of us.
	Both of us. Elites, yeah.
	The higher class versus lower class, whatever sick thought they have in their head, you know?
	Exactly. So, for example, I'm...
	I'm a very strange person, I guess.
	I always call myself politically homeless, but like...
	Hey, I'm here with you, bro.
	We're both homeless right now.
	I mean, I've been a little bit more on the right side, but I know it's the wings of the same bird at this point, you know?
	Yeah, it's like, for example, I always have these conversations, like, so about trans, just this whole weird trans movement that's going on.
	I call it weird not because of being transsexual, it's because, like, everyone cares about it now when no one cared about it before.
	And what made it weird to me was, like, I just started noticing patterns.
	And one day, I was talking to my friend, who is actually trans.
	I said, you don't find it weird that, like, the only conversations about trans people that we're having are about the men who want to transition to women?
	Mm-hmm. And she was like, You know what?
	That's kind of strange. I didn't think about saying, yeah, like in a weird way, it's kind of like, even though all these leftists, you know, will scream that men are the problem and, you know, you're mansplaining and nothing ever gets talked about until a man is doing it.
	I'm like, so the only reason that trans issues have been elevated is because the men want to be acknowledged as women.
	So either way, it's about men again.
	I'm like, oh, shit. I didn't even think about that.
	I was like, yeah, you don't see a woman transitioning into a man winning Man of the Year on ESPN. Yeah.
	But you see it happening when the man becomes a woman.
	You don't see women fighting to, oh, let me fight this cause so I can play man's sport.
	They're going to go play a man's sport, and if they lose, they win, they win, but no one cares.
	Mm-hmm. I said, you don't find that strange?
	But when I brought it up to her, she was like, oh shit, I never really thought about it like that.
	I was like, yeah, I mean, not this particular person.
	She's kind of like, she's one of the majority.
	She's one of the majority of, I don't know why, I don't want to be talked about like a fucking lab experiment all over media all the time.
	That's not who I am. She's like, I'm transsexual, but that's not my life.
	That's not who I am. I just have, you know, that's a piece of who I am.
	Like, me being Black is a piece of who I am.
	It isn't my total identity.
	You get what I'm saying? For better or for worse.
	And that's the, like, so when I said, so for international politics, I'm not one of those people.
	I can acknowledge that America is shit.
	America is whatever metaphor you want to use.
	Star Wars, for example, how America is indeed the empire.
	At the same time, why do we keep pretending like China's altruistic?
	China does some things better.
	They handle things better in some ways than the US does when it comes to the international economy.
	That does not make them altruistic when their economy is literally symbiotically tied to the US's success or failure.
	Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like, we talk about the things that the US does in the Middle East, but we don't talk about how the, how China puts African countries in debt strangleholds because the only two I, China, so think about it like this.
	America runs in there like, yo, we're gonna blow you the fuck up if you don't give us what we want.
	And China says, well, hold on, guys, hold on.
	You know, listen, listen, listen.
	You don't want to get blown up by those guys, right?
	And they won't really mess with you if we're involved with your country's economy.
	So let's do it like this.
	We'll give you a deal.
	It won't be the best deal because you really only have two options, but it's better than not getting shit and being blown up and having your people killed.
	So is it really an option or is it an illusion of choice?
	Yeah. So how do we know, because of just everything that we know about the world, the real way it works, we know that if you're a communist country living under the current system, a genuinely communist or socialist country, you are not allowed to become a superpower.
	Yeah. So how does China become the number one or number two economic superpower in the world?
	Because they were allowed to by the powers that be.
	And if that's the case, how do we know that China and the US have been playing good combat this entire time?
	Mm-hmm. And that's the way I look at most things.
	There are narratives that are put out in front of us.
	And even some of the narratives that look the most tantalizing to our side, to our ideology, you still have to be skeptical of.
	Because when someone, you don't attain that type of power in this world.
	Unfortunately, in this world, you don't attain that type of power and that type of economic influence without someone else pulling the strings and allowing you to.
	It's just like the music industry, I'm sure you know.
	Totally, totally. And you know what's funny?
	I was meeting with a Chinese lady the other day regarding what is called Hollywood East.
	So in China, they're creating this entire city, which they're calling Hollywood East, where they want all their film productions to be, right?
	And what she was telling me is she spends part of her time in China, part of her time in the United States.
	And she said that...
	The United States has become predatory against its own people.
	Meaning, when she was in China trying to raise a business, trying to find success, she had all the support.
	The government...
	The government wants you to be successful.
	Exactly. Now, they don't want you to talk crap about communism and they'll destroy your life if you talk against them.
	But as long as you're not talking crap about them, they are incentivized to help you.
	They're incentivized to build your family.
	And you know what? You know what?
	That's not even a bad fucking, you know what?
	I might even be willing to play ball with that one.
	Like, well, shit, if you're going to help me out, I'm not going to bite the hand that feeds me.
	No, no, no. This lady was literally like, hey, come to China.
	Bring your team. We need American producers.
	We'll give you mentions.
	Like, literally. And I'm like, mentions?
	And then she was telling me that, you know, she came to the United States with all this money and she was like, look, like, it is so predatory.
	People come after you for your money.
	There's like, the courts are corrupt.
	It's like, you're always vulnerable.
	Every time you want to comment for something, you got like, bro, I lived in Miami, dog.
	Like, there was a Planet Fitness that was trying to, they had everything ready for like seven or eight months.
	They thought that they were ready to open.
	They had to close suddenly a week later.
	I said, somebody said, what the fuck?
	Why'd they have to close it? I mean, to be honest, they probably just didn't pay off the right person.
	They were like, what? I was like, yeah, no, this is Miami, bro.
	This is Miami. And they're on the corner right by downtown.
	There was somebody that didn't get a check.
	Yep, totally. I'm in Vegas, and Vegas is, when it comes to corruption, man, when it comes to payola, when it comes to, you know, bribing assemblymen, assembly people to get certain things happening, especially property development, I mean, it is all about, like, you could do anything in Las Vegas, from the sound of it, as long as you grease up the right hands.
	Yeah. And that's the majority of the US, which is, it's sad.
	I know we like to call it the land of opportunity, but I'm like, I always like the land of opportunity for who?
	Like, you know, like, I gotta be willing to compromise my integrity.
	And that's, I don't, personally, it's, that's one of the hardest, hell, being a journalist, that's one of the hardest things for me, is like having this constant battle, like, I'm going to say this and people are going to be pissed.
	Or I'm going to say this and my friend, who I have a lot of respect for, and I may respect if they disagree with me, but I know how they feel when someone disagrees with them.
	I have to be willing to literally throw away relationships to tell the truth.
	Yep. Yep. As I know it to be.
	And not for nothing, but I generally have like a thousand batting average when it comes to this type of shit.
	So like, that's like, bro, I mean, I'm just keeping it real.
	Like, and I came from the left.
	Like, I would consider myself an independent, left-leaning type of person.
	But like, at the same time, when I have to have a sit down with my friends and they're like, bro, how come you don't You're all super pro-China.
	Because I cover whenever China's...
	For example, they're willing to use their power and influence to bring peace between Israel and Palestine.
	And I'm like... And they were like, we're not waiting for Israel to agree with that.
	We will do what we have to.
	And I appreciate that.
	That's what the fuck we need.
	But at the same time, I am paying attention to what China does in Africa because I'm not only fishing for the news that I want to read.
	I'm not only fishing for the logic that serves my ideology.
	The logic and the pattern in my logic have consistently served me to be correct.
	And sometimes it may not seem like I'm correct now.
	But it's correct later.
	It's all about six months to a year.
	Yeah, it sucks being correct early because you're attacked by everyone.
	And then everybody catches up and they agree to your position, but they forget the fact that they befriended you on Facebook, that they talked crap about you.
	I was the Bernie guy.
	To be frank, I was the black Bernie guy.
	That's literally what I was known as.
	Like, it's kind of fucked up.
	But there was no...
	Like, it was just the fact that I was made a state director at, like, 26, 27 years old, like, as a Black kid.
	Like, they're like, this dude is legit.
	And then when I didn't endorse...
	Like, when I didn't come out and endorse him in 2020, because I'm like, he hasn't addressed anything that caused him to lose.
	Yeah. In fact, it's the opposite.
	I mean, when it comes to Bernie and Barack Obama, I don't know if you agree about this, but frankly, greatly, greatly disappointed.
	Two people that at one time I personally believed in immensely, but I feel like they kind of let us down in many ways.
	I mean, what do you think about that statement?
	Bro, oh man, dawg, this motherfucker, Obama was a salesman.
	He was a salesman.
	Bro, the thing I hate about Obama, bro, is when he be talking sometimes, I'm like...
	Like, I'd be like in a trance, like, oh man, this guy's so funny.
	Fuck! No, I hate this guy!
	Fuck! Why is he doing that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Bro! You know what it is?
	He had that MLT charisma, but like, you know.
	But like a little pop twain to it.
	Like, it was crazy.
	It's not something you critique, bro.
	Like, it's either you're born with it or you're not.
	Like, either you have it or you don't.
	Like, some people would make the argument.
	I've never felt that way about Bill Clinton, but some people make that argument about Bill Clinton when they meet him in person.
	They say, like, man, he was just such a likable guy.
	Like, there was a person, I know that works for him, who hates him.
	But she's like, but if you just see him in action, you can see why so many people fell for his shit.
	Like, he convinced the whole world to bully a woman that he exploited.
	Which is, like, impressive in a sense.
	Like, the fact that he never really did get put out, taken out of his office.
	Like, he was guilty. Like, everybody, like, you, it's, back then, being guilty, everybody know, but with everybody knowing you're guilty, didn't, yeah, you could have been part of the system, but, like, Richard Nixon got taken out for less.
	Yeah, yeah. Right? Like, that happened.
	But with Bill Clinton, he was so smooth that not only was he like, he was not exonerated, but they just kind of forgot about it.
	But they kept him as an intricate, influential, influential member of the Democratic Party, like making decisions.
	And elevating him and using him to elevate other people.
	That type of charisma you can't teach.
	But with Obama, yeah, he was disappointing because I believe that he genuinely believed in a lot of the things that he said.
	You get what I'm saying? Like, and once he realized, but I also have always said, so my grandma made a comment when I was young.
	This is crazy that she was so fucking right.
	So my grandma's mixed.
	She was mostly white.
	She's French and black. And she was saying that she was saying she can't, she doesn't trust him.
	Because of his identity crisis.
	I was like, what? What are you talking about, Grandma?
	She was like, Michelle runs that relationship.
	I was like, okay. Why do you say that?
	She's like, baby, I'm a wife.
	You forget. I'm a wife.
	I was like, okay. And when they got together, Michelle was the breadwinner.
	Michelle was the one who was being picked to run for office.
	Michelle was worth millions before Barack was worth 100,000.
	People don't know that. And she was like, do you know what that was?
	Because he had no sense of identity because a black man from that time wouldn't have allowed himself to be put in that situation because his pride wouldn't let him.
	Because the community around him, whether it's justified or not, would not respect him for doing so.
	And so she said that means he was willing to play ball and like the only thing that mattered to him was the perception of success in being liked and being accepted.
	And therefore he was easily corruptible and weak.
	That was like That's crazy.
	When she first... I'm like, that's...
	Nah. But then as I went back and looked at it, and she's like, I told you all he wanted to do on...
	He just wanted his little white Congress members to accept him.
	He wanted a white pop culture America to accept him.
	The liberal, white liberal Americans to accept him.
	He even, in my opinion, conceded a lot to Republicans because he thought, oh, if I... If I just play ball with them and concede a little bit, give a little, get a little, then they'll respect me more and stop saying racist shit about me.
	No, bro. Those Republicans aren't going to like you.
	And part of them, like Colin Powell said, there are a lot of members of his party that are openly racist.
	Mm-hmm. But he thought he could appeal to them.
	And we don't really take into account, we think that because somebody has a pretty title, that basic psychology and experience doesn't influence their decision making.
	And it does. Like, Bernie has an ego problem, too, that nobody wants to talk about.
	Everybody knows about that story.
	Well, I don't know if everybody knows, but I can't remember who he was talking to, but he basically said that he didn't want to end up like Ross Perot, where he was a third-party candidate that was just simply forgotten about.
	Which, in my opinion, given that we're in the social media era and just how things work out, like, bro, so Tulsi Gabbard is still wildly popular.
	Like, Jill Stein, if she wanted to, she could run the Green Party right now, and everybody would instantly kind of jump on board.
	But, like, Bernie is so, he finally got invited to the cool kids table.
	That's when, like, the Democratic Party, to some degree, had to bow down to him.
	Mm-hmm. Yeah.
	Which is, like, remember whenever, what was it, Eric, what the fuck was his name?
	The former DNC chair who had to literally go around the country kissing Bernie's ass.
	Yeah, yeah. Because they got caught cheating and Debbie Roachman chose how to get fired.
	I think it was Eric Perez.
	And everybody pretends like Bernie didn't love every man of that shit.
	Of course he did!
	But that was all it was for him, was like validating himself.
	But at the end of the day, people also forget Bernie's parents died before he went to college.
	Bernie's family, He moved overseas.
	Bernie was here by himself, which usually creates abandonment.
	Well, not necessarily abandonment issues, but it creates this need to want to belong, finally find a family or community to fit in because he didn't have Bernie anymore.
	He left Brooklyn, so he didn't even have those friends either.
	So who did he latch on to was the easiest thing for a Jewish kid from Brooklyn to latch on to, the activism community.
	So that became his identity.
	And he finally basically got validated by his presidential run, and that wasn't enough for him.
	And I'm not going to put all the business out there, but some of the things that he had said or that he had done, some of the Black people that he had patronized and condescended at, he kind of cut some of us from under, cut the lace from under us.
	There were opportunities for us to do better Black outreach.
	That Bernie Sanders directly stopped from happening.
	Because he didn't want Black men that weren't super famous already to have a platform to grow.
	Like, for example, Nina Turner wanted me to be the press secretary, excuse me, for 2020.
	That's what I heard like, sure, because me and Nina were really tight.
	And I was like, if you want me to do it, then I'll do it.
	Because she had looked out for me just as much as Tulsi did.
	And Tulsi and Nina had both approached me before the campaign even started.
	But that was a paid position.
	And I was like, well, if I'm going to get to go around the country and ride around my home all day and just tell people about the good gospel, I would rather do that.
	It would be more fun. They were even willing to take my...
	She was like, yeah, we'll even use her idea of doing a podcast specifically regarding the campaign.
	So whenever I officially applied for the job that she had me to apply to, they literally just took the exact thing that I applied for, they took my personality or a version of it, took my superficial aspects of what I bring to the table, and then had Brianna Joy Gray do it instead.
	Literally. Wow.
	Yeah, including the podcast.
	That was my idea. They stole your identity ideas and just gave it to somebody else.
	They gave it to a woman because they thought Brie would be easier to control at the end of the day.
	Because they probably knew that they were going to concede.
	They thought that Brie was going to play ball, but she actually ended up not playing ball with them.
	And then what happened immediately?
	Bernie threw her under the bus.
	Immediately. Wow.
	So, he threw Nina under the bus to some degree.
	Nina and Bernie aren't as close as they used to be.
	No, they're not. So, it's very...
	But that was because, like, at the end of the day, like, yeah, just because he fought for black people doesn't mean he was really right, like, that he doesn't have his ego to...
	that he's trying to protect, right?
	Like, yeah, it's easy to fight for black people when you think they need you.
	That inflates the ego when you're like wrestling with a fucking lost kitten.
	Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
	I don't expect the kitten to be the man of the hell, though.
	Shit. Totally.
	Man, before we started this interview, we were talking about, so you're in Brazil, right?
	And the minute you said you're in Brazil, I was like, you're in Brazil, you're a journalist in Brazil.
	The first thing that came to mind is Glenn Greenwald, right?
	For those that don't know, Glenn Greenwald personally is one of my favorite journalists because this movement for me started in 2001 after the 9-11 attacks, right?
	In terms of really delving into the system, what was really going on.
	Seeking the truth. And I remember the Iraq war.
	I remember the cancel culture of the early 2000s.
	Everybody talks about cancel culture today, but try to have been like against the Iraq war, against Bush's lies.
	And you would find out what cancel culture was back in 2002.
	I mean, a lot of people come to mind.
	Oh, or the war in Afghanistan.
	Or the world, especially in Afghanistan.
	Or the world in Afghanistan, yeah.
	So I remember when Glenn Greenwald literally had to move to Brazil for safety measures because he was one of the only journalists that was telling the truth about what was happening with this military-industrial complex, Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, the subsequent mortgage crisis and how that related to all that nonsense.
	It was around the time that...
	Snowden had to leave too, right?
	Roughly around the same time.
	Yeah, yeah. So tell us about that.
	I mean, you're in Brazil right now.
	You're in Brazil because, you know, it's probably not safe for you because you're a truth teller.
	Tell us about that. Yeah. So for those of you who don't know, I used to work for RT News.
	And although I literally just The only thing RT did was have me on the talk for the most part.
	They never actually fed me any stories whatsoever.
	In fact, I rarely talked about Russia, which is kind of funny when you think about it.
	But my specialty was international politics.
	So as we're actually preparing for me to actually do a full-time TV show for them because I had my own production studio at my apartment, the Russian-Ukraine war breaks out.
	Literally, which is wild as shit because people always joke like, damn, bro, every time you're about to do some crazy-ass project that's going to expose a bunch of people, something wild happens that forces you to completely stop and change course.
	And it's kind of always been a joke amongst my friends and colleagues, but literally, we're about to announce this damn show.
	And then they're like, well, we can't do this.
	Why not? And they were straight up like, bro, FBI is going to be pressing you.
	They already started pressing other people.
	They stopped our pay.
	Wow. They sanctioned our banks.
	They sanctioned banks. Oh, yeah, bro, I didn't get paid.
	Did you shut you up? Bro, that shit was crazy.
	It happened in the EU, too.
	It happened to basically any journalist that was working for RT that was in the US or the UK. That we all were cut off from our paychecks for months.
	When you say that, the thing that pops into mind out of recent events is Justin Trudeau, you know, bank accounts being shut down in Canada, the tyranny of all of a sudden somebody not being able to access their bank account because they're not doing something that the Prime Minister of their likes.
	I mean, what do you think about that comparison?
	Yeah, no, it's exactly the same thing, except for on a worldwide scale.
	And some Canadians were affected by that, too.
	I can't talk about the name of the person, but there was a Canadian that was...
	RT was helping facilitate the process of them becoming an American citizen, and they were denied citizenship because they worked for RT. Wow.
	Wow. So they had to start the process over again.
	Yeah, it got real, man.
	It got real. One of my friends got stuck in Iceland.
	Because she works for RT. They grilled her, took her phone away.
	I mean, some real shit.
	And this wasn't...
	A lot of these people don't.
	It's weird. Once again, most of the journalists that work for RT almost never talk about Russia.
	But they do talk about international politics.
	And to talk about international politics from an honest perspective, you have to talk about U.S. imperialism.
	You have to. Like, what the fuck else am I going to talk about, bro?
	I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And it was also at the beginning of the Russian-Ukraine war that, so I just had, funny enough, right, I had just gotten done with this binge.
	Are you familiar with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Adrian, are you talking about Marvel?
	Yes. Oh, yeah, I know them, yeah.
	Bro, so, the final scene...
	So, you're familiar with the concept of HYDRA, how technically like HYDRA was infiltrated SHIELD and they were basically the Nazi science division, quote, unquote, literally they were saying the Nazi science division in the show that infiltrated SHIELD and they had been actually the ones running SHIELD and therefore running U.S. foreign policy and all Intelligence operations since at the time in the Marvel era was World War II. So,
	at the last season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., they find out that HYDRA actually started in the U.S. Oh, wow, wow.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, wow, wow.
	And he was part of the...
	And he was a part of the founding members of S.H.I.E.L.D. Uh-huh.
	So it was always...
	And the reason that the Red Skull had gotten the fucking Super Sword to see it was because a Hydra member who was pretending to be a member of S.H.I.E.L.D. gave it to him.
	And that's how Hydra got exported to Germany at the time.
	Wow. So, like, so then, like, because there's always these weird-ass, like, coincidental or maybe not so coincidental parallels in Marvel in, like, the real world.
	And I started doing all this research, like, because it's probably research that I don't, sometimes I just don't research shit because I already know the fucking answer and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole because I don't have the emotional energy for it that week.
	But this is one of the situations.
	I'm sure you know how I feel. Oh, yeah, yeah.
	You got to have a certain bandwidth because you could pretty much lose your mind doing this crazy stuff.
	You got to pace yourself, you know?
	So that's when I started doing more research on World War...
	I started doing more deeper research on World War I. And then I started doing more deeper research on...
	I'm like, why?
	Because so at a certain point, to make a long story short, I had realized that the whole reason That I felt like Hitler made quote unquote made the mistake of attacking Russia because like he was always supposed to fail because the US was always behind him.
	The US. Propped up Hitler.
	People don't even remember, like, everybody remembers, like, Hitler was, like, in Berlin, the Olympics were in Berlin at one point, and, like, it was a whole thing, like, just, it was the first time Jesse Owens ran, and everybody forgets, like, he ran because, like, the US allowed Hitler to ban other Jewish runners that were ahead of him.
	A lot of people don't even know that.
	People don't know that, like, that President Roosevelt at the time issued an apology to Hitler because of a court judge, like, ruling his flag, ruling the Nazi flag as being illegal.
	There's a whole bunch of history that's available on the internet.
	You can find where the US is carrying water for Nazis the entire time and then they turn around and pretend like, oh shit, how could anyone have saw this coming?
	GM, GE, Ford, GMC, all these companies were involved in building up the arsenal of Germany.
	Even though there was supposed to be all these sanctions on Germany that the US Uh, put on them.
	Yeah. So, like, it didn't make any sense until you start like, well, hold on.
	The whole goal of World War I was specifically to destroy and cripple the economy of Russia and Germany.
	Mm-hmm. Right? So, they thought that they had succeeded in doing so because they did cripple Germany for a short time.
	And then it looked like they were going to be able to do it to Russia because they put Russia in the stranglehold, With the war, because World War I was like literally being fought on Russian soil too.
	And then immediately instigated the Bolshevik revolution which all the leftists had at one point in time thought like this is a communist revolution that we always wanted because of the end result.
	But what the result was supposed to be was Trotsky was supposed to end up on top because he was a CIA asset.
	And people don't know that shit.
	But Stalin snuck in.
	He snuck in and the U.S. never accounted for him and when Stalin snuck in, so with the Bolshevik Revolution you remove the royalty, right?
	Because you remove the royalty because it's hard to keep a fucking empire together when they don't have the royalty to get behind.
	But the empire stayed together because of Stalin.
	And so what are the powers that be do?
	They say, fuck, man.
	We got to do another fucking world war because the shit didn't work.
	So enter the Nazis.
	And you have all this shit going in the background because what does the US know for doing?
	Regime changes. And that might have been the greatest regime change, quote unquote, of all time because they succeeded in the regime change where Hitler ended up taking over Germany.
	And then what happens is Nazis are like, they make this deal with Russia Off rip, which was kind of crazy.
	But Russia just didn't want to be involved because they remembered what happened in World War I. So that makes sense.
	But then they say, hey, Hitler, man, we know that you're stressed the fuck out right now.
	And you're literally like, your army's wearing fit.
	But go attack the biggest army in Europe right now.
	Why are you still defending? And what was he going to say?
	He couldn't say no, because where did his weapons and his armory and everything come from?
	GE, GNC, everything U.S. Because he was supposed to fail in Russia and Germany was supposed to take each other out at the end of that war.
	Wow. Wow.
	Yeah. So that's why the Nazis were...
	Because then you get what? NATO happens.
	And then you see all these members from the Nazi party literally being put in executive positions of NATO. Literally.
	Which is crazy. And then you start to find out, well, all these Nazis got put in Argentina by way of the US. But obviously, most of them had to get settled in Ukraine because they couldn't just run back through all the countries they just tried to fuck up.
	So Russia beat them. They got stuck in Ukraine.
	And then you start to wonder, like, well, hold on.
	Was Operation Paperclip us taking valuable Nazi scientists and then converting them?
	Or were they always working for us?
	And that's why we felt so comfortable bringing them back here.
	Because their job was to build weapons that were illegal to build on US soil and create a reason for us.
	Well, since they already did it, we got to bring them here so that we have a weapon.
	It was like a loophole.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, what do you think about, we had a guest on Blood Money that made the statement that Hitler, you know, for all his evil and flaws, actually one of the positive things he showed the world is that you don't really know What do you think about
	that statement? That's not necessarily true.
	It's true, I guess you would say, no, because like we know for a fact, so why did he, if he didn't need the Bengals to have a thriving economy, why did he go to the US to facilitate all the building of their arsenal?
	Either you took loans or they just gave you shit and you had to owe them favors, but like either way, Like, the bankers are the reason that those companies are who they are.
	So I get what he's trying to say, because that would be effectively saying, oh, man, under Hitler, socialism really did work.
	But no, that wasn't what happened.
	In fact, that would be basically suggesting that they were able to buy all the supplies from around the world that they weren't allowed to buy, right?
	Because they were sanctioned because of the Treaty of Versailles.
	So who gave them the shit?
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	You know what's interesting on this topic?
	Before we started, I had mentioned World War I, right?
	In World War I, the thing that is not much talked about is really the genocide holocaust that happened during World War I, which was basically the Christian minorities in the Ottoman Empire, including Greeks, Assyrians, and Armenians.
	About 4 million were essentially murdered.
	I mean, same level of a holocaust genocide that happened.
	For sure. There's a lot of genocide going on back there, for sure.
	Yeah. And one of the things they don't talk about is that in 1911, I think it was, J.P. Morgan sent Adam Schiff's great-great-uncle to survey those historic Armenian lands.
	They found out that there was a lot of value to those lands.
	And then the U.S. facilitated Turkey getting away with that genocide.
	Wow. We're getting away with that genocide.
	After they found out that those lands are some of the most precious lands on the planet in terms of the natural resources.
	So when you're talking about World War II... And they facilitated the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.
	That's fucking crazy, bro.
	Exactly. World War I is about the destruction of the Ottoman Empire via a genocide, which was, you know, rubber-stamped by the United States and bankers in the United States.
	And you know what's crazy about this story is that Adam Schiff represents Glendale.
	Glendale has the biggest Armenian community today.
	Like, literally, his great uncle is an enemy of the Armenian people.
	He's the guy that brought the data back here that then resulted in whatever green light.
	What a coincidence.
	What do you think about that, that the dude, like the great-great-nephew of that guy is now the major voice for the Armenian community?
	I mean, it makes sense.
	I mean, I don't... So we were talking off-camera before, but I don't give a fuck about talking about it.
	I have no love lost for the Young Turks at all, whatsoever.
	They're a fucking piece of shit.
	The show. Well, both, I guess.
	You know, by the way, could I make a statement here?
	Sorry to interrupt you. Calling that show the Young Turks, OK, from where I come from, is like calling a show the Nazi people.
	No, the KKK. No, bro, no.
	It's like a black person calling the show the KKK. But it's not the same, because it's the kookamooka cracker killers.
	Like, no, bro, it's still the KKK. He said he got it from a song and it was supposed to be ironic.
	And I'm like, but you're Turkish, bro.
	You're trying to tell me you had no idea what the Young Turks were before you made this show named The Young Turks.
	And by the way, By the way, could I throw a deception?
	Propaganda deception. Who is one of their main spokespeople?
	Anne Kasparian.
	Anne Kasparian. She's Armenian.
	Bitch. Oh, it gets deeper than that, though.
	Like, what happened was, people forget, he was called out on that shit first, then Anna, who isn't really close with the Armenian community, because she was trying to be Hispanic for a long time, and she had an identity crisis, basically, I guess because she was raised outside of the community, because that happens sometimes to Armenians, for whatever reason. So, she ends up getting brought onto the show after he had this big ass, like, they're like, yo, I don't know what your name is.
	Like, you're Turkish and you are so insensitive and quote, unquote, insensitive and ignorant.
	Like, why would you do that?
	Why would you, how can the show even exist?
	And then Anna joins, right?
	Anna ends up becoming a professor at what, USC? And then ends up being on the Forbes 30 Under 30.
	Yeah. For what?
	Yeah. Yeah.
	I mean, this is a propaganda.
	She teaches journalism school. She didn't even go to school for journalism.
	Like, that's what she was doing. Yeah, yeah.
	She's not an investigative journalist.
	She had no real credentials before becoming a host.
	And then people forget, Jenkins is a Republican, right?
	Quote, unquote. He becomes a Democrat or a leftist, quote, unquote.
	And he ends up getting the Young Turks show after storming off because he was just so anti-war and pro-leftist and da-da-da-da.
	Except for you and I both fucking know, you don't get that type of investment funding Venture capitalist funding, which he got because you're an enemy of the establishment.
	Yep, totally, totally.
	You don't get to get a cable news line because you're an enemy of the establishment.
	So when you couple all of those things together, and then the fact that once YouTube blows up, TYT becomes solidified.
	They can't be touched because of how big YouTube is, and they have this untouchable partnership with YouTube.
	Because they were basically being protected by YouTube, which is owned by Alphabet, which is owned by CIA. Yep.
	So it's like, when you put all those pieces together, of course fucking Jake is a goddamn CIA asset.
	And of course the name is Puffy Sheldon, the Young Turks.
	You want me to blow your mind right now about some historic stuff and the parallels?
	Okay, so Young Turks, I'm talking about the historic Young Turks, the 1911 Young Turks, right?
	So they came into power because for 400 something years, the Christian minorities were two-thirds human, which meant, and this would happen all the time, literally, you know, Ottoman Empire, whatever, like, I guess gendarmes or like people that were given okay by the government would go and steal Armenian girls, put them in harems. Would steal Armenian girls, put them in, you know, or Syrian girls, Greek girls, put them in harems.
	So there was a genuine issue for 400 years where because the Christian minorities were two-thirds human, they had no rights against Muslim citizens, right?
	So pretty much a Muslim citizen in the Ottoman Empire could do whatever the hell they wanted to a Christian minority.
	That makes sense. Islam as a religious institution was literally just, hey man, we want the power that Christians have, so we're going to do it here.
	Yeah, but the interesting thing about the Young Turks is that basically they came to power because all these minorities came together and formed a majority, right?
	And said, we're sick of this, like, racism.
	We're sick of having our women be raped, our children killed.
	And there was a lot of minor genocides, massacres, sprinkled throughout the 1800s, by the way, against the Christian minorities, right?
	So these guys come into power because the Christian minorities band together.
	And the minute they come to power, they start killing the Christian minorities.
	And what I'm trying to say here is that look at the metaphorical meaning of what Young Turks in the United States is doing.
	They are doing the exact same intelligence operation of acting as though they are some kind of, you know, seeking freedoms and this sort of thing.
	And look at them- So baby, you're saying it's not a show called the Young Turks.
	It's actually Operation Young Turks.
	Exactly. Divide and conquer.
	Act like you are a fulcrum for unity, but you're not.
	You're actually there to destroy.
	Wow. Hey, man, you know, they're all about manifestation.
	Using names to manifest, man.
	So I wouldn't even be fucking surprised.
	I would not. That's crazy.
	It makes me think, because it's almost like, I mean, it's such a clever strategy.
	Like, we're basically called Young Turks.
	It's akin to calling ourselves the Nazi Party or the KKK or whatever.
	Let's bring an Armenian girl in and say, hey, look, we got an Armenian, and she's cool with it.
	You know what I mean? It just seems like such a clever intelligence kind of approach And you gave them a name that's so like bizarre that they instantly become newsworthy.
	Because they're about like, what the fuck?
	And then some people are just going to happen to catch segments.
	What the fuck? Why would this show come to Young Turks?
	I'm going to watch them now. That's what happens.
	Back then, there was no such thing as...
	To some degree still, but more so back then, there was no such thing as bad publicity.
	Good God, no. Bro, you could literally do what the fuck you wanted to, and if people saw it on the news or whatever, what was it, MySpace back then, or Facebook when they started having news posts, if people saw it, Like, you were popular.
	That's how that shit works. And so the Young Turks, the whole strategy really was genius because when you think about what they did to the left specifically, like after the Bernie election, bro, like they all, they knew, bro, they tried to, you know, they tried to recruit me.
	Oh, really? Wow. After 2016, and eventually they realized, well, this motherfucker's not going to play ball at all.
	I mean, they were right.
	Because they give you that salary, man.
	Then you get used to a certain lifestyle.
	Then it becomes hard for you to leave that lifestyle because now I'm able to support my family.
	I had kids or something like that at that point.
	I would have put myself in a situation where now I've got to play ball or I can't feed my family.
	That's what they do. And I would have rather been poor or homeless, which at one point I was, than to compromise my integrity because I just don't have it in you.
	And so at that point, and Kyle Kalinske at one point told me that they all knew who the fuck I was.
	They used to pretend like they didn't know who I was.
	I'm like, well, I got this fucking email from them.
	They invited me to apply for the goddamn job at the show.
	And he was like, bro, they all pretend like they didn't know who you were.
	Because you were a fucking threat to them.
	And if any of them elevated you, it would be awful.
	And literally me and Anna getting this huge back and forth on Twitter.
	And she goes ghost for days.
	Because I'm like, I'm buying a ticket.
	I'm not going to go back and forth, fucking forth with you on Twitter.
	We'll debate. I'll fly out to California.
	I'll buy my own ticket. And it's one way.
	So you got all the time in the world.
	And once I said that, and then one of my fans actually fucking bought the ticket for me.
	Sent me the money. Wow.
	I posted it on Twitter and said, got my ticket, see you tomorrow.
	And she went ghost for a fucking week, bro.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	So, there's a certain advantage you have when you don't care.
	You can put me in any situation, like, on the fly.
	I'm not worried about you asking me a question that's going to make me look like I'm more duplicitous because I'm not morally duplicitous.
	And I do my best to prepare for any situation where you can try to throw a gotcha at me.
	I did a debate in high school, college.
	There's rarely a gotcha that I could get hit with at this point.
	But more than anything, I'm more than willing to say, I don't know.
	If I don't know the answer, I don't fucking know.
	I'm not going to sit here and answer something I don't know.
	But if I have to say I don't know about something, it's usually because I know that the other person doesn't know, really know about it, too.
	Because I had a conversation with somebody the other day about, they were saying, they were basically asking me these, what ifs?
	Well, what if this and what if that?
	I said, so you want me to have a whole conversation with you?
	You're super passionate.
	About these what-ifs situations?
	I can't argue with you about what-ifs.
	Like, we can what-if, what-if, what-if, what-if, what-if all day.
	I can't argue with the facts that we know, bro.
	That's it. Yes, exactly. Why don't we deal with the stuff that we know as opposed to, like, the what-ifs distractions, right?
	Exactly, exactly. And so I try to keep, to have those comments, because we have to have these conversations in public.
	And I always say I don't have these conversations necessarily for the ones that are loud on Twitter.
	And always responding. You know, I appreciate the comments.
	Duh, of course. I appreciate that.
	I have it for the people who don't comment or don't say anything at all.
	Because usually, those are the most intelligent people who are just absorbing information to then go and have these conversations with their families, with the people at their jobs, with their friends.
	And you'd be surprised at how many I've gone to events with people that I've never knew.
	They're like, I watch the show every single day, bro.
	It's on my TV. I'm like, what?
	I've never seen you comment.
	Like, y'all, man, y'all never commented.
	I'm like, what? That's weird.
	It was a weird concept for me because everybody who watches the show comments, right?
	That's what you feel like. And everybody who really likes the show comments is what you feel like.
	But you realize there are different people that consume the information differently.
	And usually the smartest of them, the most observant of them, actually just sit there and absorb and absorb and absorb.
	I'm equipping them with the ammo to go out into the world to change it with the right information.
	And that's why I love what we do.
	I like to consider myself a teacher of things that need to be taught.
	And so that's why I never really get scared to confront about somebody like the Young Turks or whoever the fuck.
	Yeah, yeah. It kind of blows me away just talking to you, man, because there's very few people like you.
	I mean, you're in that Glenn Greenwald class where you're essentially willing to cause damage and destruction to your life being homeless in order to not veer away from the truth.
	I mean, what is it about you?
	What is it about your background, your upbringing that gives you that kind of...
	Partially, my mom.
	My mom and my grandma have always been like, just do the right thing.
	Just do the next right thing.
	And things will work out for you.
	Because I've had so much up and down in my life, doing the next right thing has always actually just been kind of easy.
	Because I'm like, yeah, I did this once and this had an immediate impact.
	But ultimately, three months later, I got a lot of opportunity because of that decision I made.
	Yeah. And so they were always right when it came out.
	And also, I think, so technically speaking, I'm on the spectrum, and I don't really have the capacity.
	I like simplifying my life. When you say spectrum, like, you're talking about Asperger's?
	So it could be Asperger's, but it's, so my ADHD is basically so, like, ridiculous.
	So there's two types of ADHD. There's the hyperactive kind.
	And then there's an attention-specific kind.
	And I actually have both, according to this, like, long ass test that I took.
	But basically, it puts me in a situation where it's actually sometimes hard for me to do certain things.
	Like, so the hardest thing about this for me was repeating myself.
	I hate repeating my fucking self.
	Like, I used to hate that shit in class when people would say, oh, teacher, can you repeat, like, whatever?
	And I'm like, bro, you want to fucking listen?
	And then, over time, I learned, like, oh, shit.
	Like, that's a me thing.
	That isn't a them thing. Most people need things repeated to them, which is cool.
	But, like, little things like that or, like, when people, I had to work on not getting too far ahead of shit because I'm a logic person.
	And I give, bro, one thing that you will notice about people that are on the spectrum is, like, in politics and in journalism, they always end up at the Clintons.
	What do you mean? Like, so for example, I ended up with the DNC fraud lawsuit, which basically ended up suing Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Party.
	Elizabeth Lee Beck and Jared H. Beck had been in another lawsuit separate from the DNC fraud lawsuit, right?
	With the male Clinton over a fucking kidney situation.
	Let's put it like this. It was a situation.
	Somebody's kidney got taken and they got stuck in line and they died.
	And for those of you who don't know, the Clinton Global Initiative is directly partnered with the Mayo Clinic, and they've been accused a lot of trafficking kidneys from Haiti and giving them to people in power in the States and having people skip the line.
	Oh yeah, there's a whole thing.
	Like, Tulsi Gabbard, her biggest beef is with who?
	Clinton? Hillary Clinton, bro.
	Shit, bro. They fucking hate each other.
	Because when you're in politics, and you're on the spectrum, usually people who are on the spectrum are extremely logical and patterned.
	Because we survive and navigate the world based on patterns.
	And if you follow patterns in politics, patterns of corruption, who else the fuck are you going to end up at?
	The people who run the shit.
	And it was a funny realization that I had one day.
	I think I was doing shrooms actually.
	And it was like, bro, I was also trying to figure out why sometimes I'll get treated differently than people who will be considered neurotypical, even though we might have the same views.
	You can have the same everything, but for some reason...
	Neurotypical people have this contract that they will wear a mask in front of people.
	And they all have the fuck, because there's no way you end up with a fucking president like Biden without a bunch of people who are saying one thing in front of other people, but they're full of shit and allowing other things to happen behind the scenes, whether it be with votes, whether it be with the people that keep around, whether it be with the decisions they make at work, whether it be with the decisions they make, you know, when it comes to other people in their lives.
	You know, and it takes a massive agreement Exclusive, implicit or explicit, of people not giving a fuck and being duplicitous for a Joe Biden who literally just came out with a video, like a video just came out, where this motherfucker didn't know what year it is, bro. And he's the president of the United States right now.
	Yeah. But when they see somebody where I can't help but call out bullshit, I'm like, yeah, that's stupid.
	What the fuck are you doing? That's stupid.
	What the fuck are you doing? And I don't care who it is.
	I don't care how it's going to offend my career.
	I've shown that over and over again.
	And so there are people that will preemptively attack me, even though sometimes I don't even know who the fuck they are.
	People that are bigger than me will come out like that at least in the past they were bigger than me I had no idea who they were and they would just randomly attack me bro like what the fuck and I said oh man this person's gonna come out they they they know that they're about to compromise their integrity at one point we probably have some friend mutual friend in common and they're worried that I'm going to call them out so they have to work on demeaning and denigrating my platform now Wow,
	crazy, crazy. The thing that you've been following a lot, and we've been hearing obviously the mainstream media narrative on this, is the Russia-Ukraine war situation.
	Give us some truth, bro, as far as what's going on there.
	I mean, I know you've been really deep into that topic.
	What is going on there?
	I mean, there are Nazis in Ukraine.
	I mean, Russians kill Nazis and there are Nazis in Ukraine killing other ethnic Russians.
	I mean, that's really what it comes down to.
	It's the extension of what started in World War II, or really right after World War II. So NATO, for those of you who don't know, like the first leader of NATO, the first head of NATO was a Nazi.
	The US worked with the West to install a Nazi as the head of NATO. NATO was specifically created to deter Russia rising to power after World War II. People forget that.
	So you take these enemies of Russia, put them in charge of NATO, have all NATO's foreign policy specifically tailored for that goal of undermining Russia, And then, you know, fast forward, you have various overthrown governments, most recently in 2014, where they overthrew a Democrat reelected government in Ukraine and they installed somebody.
	The U.S. did, excuse me.
	Russia did nothing about it, even though they knew that the U.S. was behind it.
	And then... Oh, by the way, while that's happening, just adjacently, people are trying to figure out why the US is so obsessed with North Korea and why there is even a DMZ or a demilitarized zone in Korea.
	Bro, North Korea borders Russia.
	There's just some water in between them and that's it.
	And people don't realize that.
	So, with a DMZ, so the US is in...
	Korea effectively in North Korea and they can launch really when they feel like it if they have ukraine they they the nato in the us is surrounding russia yeah yeah totally so and and who else would would go against uh with who else would they who else would they be able to get To effectively dedicate their lives to this one enemy and fight this fight for, at this point, generations.
	A continual fight that started generations ago outside of the Nazis who hate Russia.
	Yeah. And who, once again, are favored by an organization that was headed by Nazis.
	They hated Russia and were defeated by Russia, effectively.
	So I always say, I can't stress enough, The US funds Nazis, and we don't talk about that shit.
	Bro, you can look at foreign policy, bro.
	The US has this really weird rule of engagement when it comes to economic and military warfare.
	We say we hate all forms of socialism, but you and I both know that a lot of Scandinavian countries and Western European countries have a shitload of socialism.
	We don't fuck their economies up at all.
	But the way we deal with countries in the Caribbean, which effectively are Black and brown people, in Central and South America, Black and brown people, we will go and destroy, I mean, just all-out warfare in one form or another if they put a brown person in charge.
	It's like there's a different...
	Everybody knows like...
	This is a joke, bro.
	I don't know if you've ever seen...
	Back to Marvel because this is where I first realized this shit.
	My friend told me, yeah, it's a thing.
	I had no idea. And the first time I think I saw it...
	The first time I saw it was Greg Gatsby.
	At the end where Gatsby and the other fucking white dude were basically in this competition They were, like, competing to see who's going to be the alpha and win Daisy by both acting like they don't give a fuck, while Sano-Taisy acting like they give a fuck.
	Because everybody in the room know that the decision whoever was going to be the alpha lied between those two.
	Mm. Okay?
	So, I was also watching Marvel, and I don't know if you've ever seen Infinity Wars, but every scene, every single scene, right, where the two white guys end up in the room, right, the two, and usually respectively the heads of their, you know, their particular group.
	So, for the first time was Tony and Doctor Strange.
	Immediately started talking shit to each other.
	And Wong is like, just like kind of hanging out in the background, like, oh, Okay, well, this is y'all staying.
	Figure out who to go. And then Thor and Star-Lord meet.
	The same fucking thing happens.
	And then Tony and Star-Lord meet.
	And the same fucking thing happens.
	I said, and what's wild about it, bro, the wildest shit about it, is how everybody else, the minorities and the women, they just sit back and watch it happen.
	Because there is an ex, the white dudes in the room already know that they are perceived as the elite of the fucking elite.
	They are in a different bracket.
	And everyone else implicitly or explicitly agrees, or at least is aware of it, so they just sit back and let it happen and just watch the show.
	Wow. Wow. You know, it's crazy.
	It's crazy. I mean, it's basically brainwashing.
	It is. It is. It's brainwashing that we've also come to.
	But what's crazy about it for me was the fact that this was done multiple times in a movie, right?
	And it was funny, almost like an inside joke, right?
	And I'm like, hold up.
	So these motherfuckers are aware of this?
	The people who put this shit in the movie are aware and other white guys who see themselves at that status in those situations are also aware of it.
	So it's like, there is...
	So why are we... And then, of course, there's the minorities.
	And I'm fully aware of it.
	I know this type of shit happens. I've been in the corporate workplace before.
	I've been in the military before.
	I've seen the fucking pissing contest between these type of dudes.
	And it's like, it's insane to me that we try to pretend like this isn't a thing when at the time, the most popular movie probably that ever had been made, they literally make it a joke over and over and over and over again that probably only the white guys got.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Pretty crazy. The subtext of it is pretty crazy.
	I mean, I want to ask you, like, in terms of the U.S.'s, I guess...
	Oh, by the way, I got like five to ten minutes.
	Okay. Well, as far as the U.S., in terms of, you know, first being against Nazis, then being for Nazis, I mean, this kind of schizophrenic approach to foreign policy, what kind of damage has that done to this country?
	Well, it probably has ridded the country of any perception of trust in the consistency of foreign policy.
	Like, people used to think that we were the good guys, you know?
	I mean, hell, I would say for a long time, I even thought that we were the good guys.
	For the most part, like, I thought that we were the good guys who just messed up sometimes.
	Yeah. It's easier to feel that way.
	Yeah. And psychologically speaking, I think it's easier to feel that way because then if you come to the realization I think you and I both had, That shit.
	Not only is, like, this country is a fucking bad guy, it is the problem.
	Like, most of the world's problems would probably be addressed in some way, form, or fashion if the US wasn't a part of it.
	Like, or at least doing a decent job of helping facilitate, helping facilitate some of the solutions.
	But, like, when you realize that, now you have this weird burden on you.
	Like, I have benefited so much.
	Even as a black man, bro.
	I'm a black man who was born in the US. Dependently.
	I may have been poor growing up, but I wasn't poor and had to worry about at any given moment a bomb dropping on my fucking house so that someone could come and steal my opium or my oil.
	I never had to worry about something like that.
	And you start to almost have a guilt.
	Because you have to face yourself.
	You have to be willing to...
	It's a guilt you have to be willing to almost live with.
	And then you have the urge then to do something about it.
	In some way, form, or fashion.
	And this is probably my way of doing something about it.
	Doing my show, educating other people.
	Because in my opinion, like...
	I don't believe that innocent people should have to feel the flame for what the US government does.
	And I would say the majority of the world actually agrees.
	They know how propagandized the average person in the US is.
	They have compassion for our stupidity.
	To be real. But at the end of the day, I also am part of the people that are like, yo, we know now, at a certain point, our complicity is what is allowing the US government to get away with the shit that is happening overseas.
	And eventually, you reap what you sow.
	Exactly. Exactly. Because you know people are avoiding purposely facing that reality.
	There are people who are, you know, I'm sure.
	I know you say you're a little bit conservative-leaning.
	And as a leftist, same thing.
	Because you have leftists that are more liberal-leaning.
	But they're almost there.
	But they don't want to say the, like when I heard Trump supporters say, man, Julian Assange is being persky.
	I'm like, yeah, you're like, what if Trump was president?
	I'm like, you're almost there.
	You're almost there.
	Yeah. They stop short of seeing the system for what it is because like then they have to reinvent their identity and you know, and what we do now, their identity a lot of the time is very profitable.
	Yeah, totally. Man, this is a really great interview.
	There's a lot more questions I want to ask you.
	You got to be out in a few minutes, right?
	Yeah, but we can definitely, we can schedule so many games soon, man.
	You actually have a schedule that works conveniently for mom, because most people want to have interviewed at 10 o'clock at night, and I'm in Brazil, so.
	We'd love to have you on our HN News Live.
	I mean, there was some questions I wanted to talk about.
	We were talking about Nazis and stuff, and, you know, I think about the Great Society of Lyndon Johnson, the abortion stuff coming into the Black community.
	And I don't know, man.
	I look at that- A lot of that stuff's crazy.
	Bro, I just found some video about the- Did you hear about the video about the hip hop executive, the former hip hop executive that was basically like, yeah, the profit purchase industry blew up because of how they just got these decision makers in the hip hop industry to be in the same room, sign these NDAs and say, we need you to only sign gangsta rappers who are going to push this type of music on the hip hop community.
	And like, the only reason he came out was basically because, yeah, that shit was like, what?
	And then you look at the time frame of when he said it, And how literally you can match the time frame of when that meeting happened to the explosion of the private printmaking industry and all the executives that were involved and the companies that were involved and how rich they got from both.
	It's like, holy fucking shit.
	I saw that. I saw that with my own eyes.
	Because I've been in the music industry for a real long time, even as an intern as early as the early 90s.
	I saw how it went from public enemy de la soul to gangster rap to the private prison.
	Exclusively. At private prisons via Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
	At the same time, you have these laws coming out, like Title IV, I think it's called Title IV, via Hillary Clinton, which is basically the destruction of the family, destruction of the man, making the man literally a sperm donor, especially the attacks on the Black community.
	And you look at all these different things happening at the same time and it makes you wonder...
	At the same time, redlining.
	At the same time, redlining is happening.
	At the same time, like...
	Like, people don't think about, like, that shit is called intersectionality.
	Like, it is a very, very complicated...
	And these people are idiots, but, like, it's easy to create these type of plans when no one is paying attention.
	Yes, exactly. Exactly.
	Exactly. Brother, this is- Now, they would never be able to get away with that shit.
	Like, now? Fuck no.
	They would never be able to get away with that shit.
	Remember what they say about conspiracies?
	They used to have a shelf life of how long?
	Years before? People realized, oh shit, that was real.
	Now they have a shelf life of like three fucking days.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	We call it Conspiracy Truths.
	We actually created a show called Conspiracy Truths because I think that's where we're at, man.
	I mean, all these crazy conspiracies, including the aliens and UFOs, it seems to be all, you know, true.
	And nobody, whenever they're like, oh, yeah, man, UFOs and aliens are real, everybody's like, bro, OK, and like, duh.
	Yeah. We're like, back to these fucking vaccines that you keep lying about, bitch.
	Like, ain't nobody worried about a guy that aliens.
	We know aliens are real. They ain't worried about us, man.
	Shit. If anything, we're the fucking problem.
	I'm not worried about any alien.
	That we meet with me and that hasn't fucking wiped us off the face of the planet.
	If they're super intelligent, they have no reason to wipe us off the face of the fucking universe.
	If they were a problem, clearly it's a problem that we've already solved.
	The only thing that it acknowledges, in my opinion, is I've always had this belief that Like, iPhone technology, for example, or the technology that boosted Bill Gates to the forefront.
	Like, the government has had it, and they gave it to him to be a face, basically, while they use him and work with the CIA. It's kind of like what they did to Google and, like, and all these companies that, like, they have a face of a mega, quote, unquote, billionaire. Everybody's like, bro, there are other people who did shit like that and aren't as fucking wealthy.
	What the fuck? And you start to realize, like, even Steve Jobs, like, part of me believed that Steve Jobs was taken out because he wouldn't let the reins of Apple go.
	You know, you know, I 100% agree with that.
	I 100% agree with that because what Steve Jobs did, and I was there, I was a Steve Jobs, you know, literally a prodigy, I would say, because at that time, when I first started in the film and TV business, there was something called the added editing system, $250,000.
	It was so unbelievable. It was so on the table for people like us.
	And then this dude comes up with Final Cut Pro.
	He comes up with the iPhone. He comes up with all these technologies that literally robbed the mainstream.
	If you think about this kind of independent revolution that's happened, it's all because of Steve Jobs.
	Fuck yeah, bro.
	How much did that piss off those guys?
	How much did that piss off? Because then they start to clamp down.
	They start to censor. So it's obvious that they didn't want us running around with this freaking thing, exposing what's happening, you know?
	So yes, I believe they killed Steve Jobs.
	Because he would have...
	When I thought with Steve Jobs a lot, bro...
	The fucking jump in technology for iPhones was exponential.
	Every single drop.
	And then once he died, everything became incremental.
	And it was like, yeah, this is cool, but this shit is extra now.
	It's already available, or I've already had some version of it in my audio or video arsenal.
	But hell, you can look at some of the policies they made.
	What about the policy that they made, which I'm sure directly is tied to the film industry, About how DSLRs couldn't record for longer than 15 fucking minutes without shutting...
	What the fuck is that about?
	Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, there's a patch for that.
	It's not like... There's literally a software that makes it like that.
	It's not like you can't record for three hours continuous once you get the patch in there.
	But you're intentional. It's really...
	I mean, there's so many intentional things to prevent us doing what we're doing right now.
	Exactly. Which really makes me think that the people that empowered us to do this are really, you know, they looked at as enemies.
	They're almost like the Teslas that have to be taken out that gave us too much.
	Yeah, bro.
	And by the way, just as a final thought, the idea of like what you said about the young turks, I feel the exact same way about Tesla.
	About the Tesla car and Elon Musk like brought in as like a just revolutionary in my life but he didn't fucking he's not a Tesla like dude he doesn't invent shit bro like Elon Musk is a fucking pawn and I have a whole other theory that'd be fun to talk about later on I actually have a theory that So I'm this big dark matter guy.
	I've researched a lot in the dark matter.
	Because I actually think that the Metatron cube is the symbol, the elemental symbol for dark matter, which is why it has the 12 points.
	Because we have 12 dimensions, 12 astrological signs, 12 eras, 12 months of the year.
	There's a whole 12 thing going on there.
	But the points represent different dimensions, and the circles represent flows of time.
	And they intersect with, obviously, like an element would rotate.
	And that basically, dark matter, which actually is the majority of the universe, dark matter, we just stop.
	We don't research it. There was research, and the government stopped making it available.
	And I think that the unlimited energy that Tesla was pulling was from dark matter, from other dimensions and like that's why he was killed.
	Mm-hmm. Because he did that shit.
	Like, yeah, the unlimited energy was a big deal.
	But it's like, the thing that you people don't think, they think about, like, just from the perspective of, wow, he got killed because of unlimited energy.
	Yeah, but somebody could have figured out a way to explain that.
	Like, right? Just if it was just that.
	And I think it was JP Morgan who in some way did do that.
	Yeah. But do you understand the fucking research that you had to have on hand to be able to pull energy from no fucking where, bro?
	Mm-hmm. Yeah.
	Like, and the fact that we don't have access to it at all.
	Yeah. And people that figure that out, whether it's the hydrogen cells with the cars, I mean, they're all off.
	They're all killed. I mean, there's like- All of them?
	All of them are killed by all that.
	Yeah. The dude gets $30 million, next day he hangs himself.
	Is that the behavior of somebody that just got $30 million?
	Yeah, bro. Exactly.
	Because it's like, yeah, the invention itself, yeah, that's a problem.
	But the knowledge that you have to have, you're on next level shit, bro.
	If you can even invent that shit, that's the first thing.
	And technology exponentially builds upon itself.
	Yeah. And those people are the keys.
	Now, I will say that the one positive thing I'll do with all of us is that people are waking up to...
	I've been going on TikTok every day, I'm like, dog, this is kind of crazy.
	We're watching superhumans happen in real life, and we're just acting real casual about this shit.
	These people are...
	I will come to a conclusion that I know...
	I'm a pretty smart guy when it comes to shit.
	The universe is always fucking speaking to me randomly.
	And it'd be right. It's weird.
	I don't know how the fuck it happens but I'm like how the fuck does this person have the exact same conclusion as me and we don't even have anything close to the same background?
	Universal mind? Universal?
	Yeah. I call it 12-dimensional knowledge.
	Yeah. The knowledge that, like, the same knowledge that, you know, how medical, all medical information was already present.
	The women had already been given it, and they always, they were called witches or whatever, but it's like, no, the world was just a lot quieter.
	You could hear it. They weren't fucking just trying random fucking berries and like, oh, this is bad.
	Oh, this is bad. Good. Oh, this is bad.
	Oh, this is good. Because something told them.
	And then the Catholic Church institutionalized the medical field and at the same time demonized those who are actually doing real medicine and herbal practices.
	So it's the same concept but like the world has to be quieter around you for you to know that but or and people have to be tapped in.
	To the quote unquote cloud.
	And more and more and more people are being tapped in this cloud of energy to the point where I think that COVID was probably a breaking point for that.
	I think to some degree it backfired on the establishment because everybody was at home.
	Everybody was second guessing the system.
	Everybody was looking for answers to questions they may not have even known they were looking for the answers to, including me.
	There was shit where I was like, Man, the concept of the shadow self to me is so far advanced now.
	And this is a concept based on your trauma, your ego, and your secret desires all rolled up into one.
	And it's basically more responsible for your decision making than your conscious self is.
	And it's actually a psychological study.
	It's something that they deal with in therapy sessions and things like that.
	But I found out that your shadow self can have relationships with other shadow selves and also have relationships, positive or negative, with people's conscious selves.
	And that your shadow self is responsible for the art you make.
	Mm. Wow.
	So musicians, when they finally get in this happy place and, like, they merge their shadow with their conscience and they're finally in control of everything they do, everybody fucking hates their music!
	Mm. What the fuck is this shit?
	Because it's no longer your shadow.
	You don't go into that trans that you go into when you're painting that paint.
	When you're painting that painting, when you're writing that music, when you're putting these wonderful symphonies together, you're not in that headspace anymore that was unique and thought-provoking.
	You just become normal. My theory is that even movies, there's some movies that are like, why the fuck does this shit mimic real life?
	Bro, us? Like the movie by Jordan Peele.
	I had a conversation with my shadow while I was on Shrooms that his shadow was the one who wrote that movie and it was about everyone's shadows coming into the world.
	And like because of everything that was happening during 2020, like all the planets were in retrograde.
	It's like, yeah, this is what has to happen for Age of Aquarius to happen.
	It was about all the shadows coming out that had been ignored.
	And taking over. I was like, what the fuck?
	Why are we even having this conversation?
	How do I know I'm even having this conversation with you?
	I'm like, watch these fucking movies now.
	And I'm like, holy shit, this motherfucker is right.
	And I'm listening to music, and I'm thinking like, what changed between The Weeknd from the trilogy, for example, and The Weeknd now?
	I'm like, oh, that motherfucker is happy and off the drugs for the most part.
	And I don't like his music now.
	I fucking hate it. Oh, wow, wow.
	But he's more favorite than he's ever been, but that's like pop culture shit.
	It's not the same thing. If you ask any Drake fan who's the best Drake, they're going to say, yeah, the old Drake, back in the day.
	Yeah, yeah. Because that motherfucker was going through a different...
	He was going through different shit. And they always say, why does Drake talk one way when he's in front of certain people, but talks another way when he's talking when he's rapping?
	Because that's that motherfucker's shadow writing those songs.
	That's the kid who was never accepted.
	That's the kid who was, yeah, I'm never black enough.
	When I'm around white people, I'm never white enough.
	When I'm around Jewish people, I'm not even fucking Jewish enough.
	I want to be able to sing, because my dad sang, and my dad respected for it.
	But when I sing, I'm fucking hated for it.
	That's all of that, and it was so...
	That type of shadow, it's very complex because of these two different backgrounds.
	It was so complex, but it was also so relatable because of all the different elements that people just couldn't...
	Bro, do you remember the fucking Drake era?
	The Drake era was crazy. For those of you who don't know, the Drake era of hip-hop, everybody is so open about their shit now because of the Drake era.
	The hip-hop R&B thing that everybody does, that's a Drake era thing.
	Now, Yeah, I would love to have that conversation at a later time.
	That type of shit for me is super interesting because it really helps you understand the era of the world that we're in right now.
	Why it seems like...
	I want to say things look so depressing because things are bad, right?
	But that shit, it always looks really, really bad before it gets really good.
	It has to. Because if the bad people are still comfortable, nothing's going to change.
	Yep. Yep, exactly.
	Man, Nico, this is awesome.
	Really a fantastic interview.
	Thank you so much for coming on to the Blood Money Podcast.
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