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Sept. 30, 2023 - Blood Money

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The Truth I learned about Cancer when my Daughter Became Sick with Ric Schiff

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	And today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just buying them.
	Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Berzynski in a trial and that Berzynski had lost.
	Mm-hmm. And that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	People I didn't know. Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	And then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say...
	Exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest, that, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative, they're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	So this is something that if you do watch a Blood Money podcast, we hear it over and over again.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed...
	That a lot of doctors, I mean most of them, and you know that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative, and you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski. Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money, and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be, have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely.
	Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original Army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy, in every situation, to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	And it's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	But a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and...
	Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antineoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing is non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor Cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think, at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up Attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict him. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is a story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that... It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming up with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	And once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the antianeoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up.
	Or Joe McCullough. You actually sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world and I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998, When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah, and by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today because If, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation.
	But look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are going to die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	And now he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Where is this journey?
	I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antioneoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antioneoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID. Bam, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I'm completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute.
	It is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	Totally, totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world and you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	You know, anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that. So yeah.
	So.
	on the latest episode of Blood Money.
	And today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben.
	Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair. She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third year, The third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Burzynski in a trial and that Burzynski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Burzynski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering with children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different.
	That this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplastin, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti, and then neoplastic are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say, Exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to financial interest, that the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense to a lot of these.
	I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative.
	They're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	That a lot of doctors, I mean most of them, and you know that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative, and you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski. Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And you've got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interests because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things, to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money, and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely. Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely, and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists, and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer, and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Zytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	But leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh, well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and...
	Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antineoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict business. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is a story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that... It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought that happens.
	You know, I assumed like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming up with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue, common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the anti-neoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up.
	You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences.
	Experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on, the fact that you got to where you even got and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, It's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testify in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the mRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become...
	And I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against their...
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way.
	Like, I don't know, like 20-something, 2,600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here...
	Millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Where is this journey?
	I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antioneoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antioneoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	That's awesome. This has been wonderful, and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school, and he was given some medications in the first Iraq War.
	And lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, Lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know?
	So... Pam, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah. And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constituted is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally, totally.
	It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world, and you've got to be on your toes.
	You've got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites, how people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that. So yeah.
	So.
	on the latest episode of Blood Money.
	And today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben.
	Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	um once again i spent that six months learning and reading so when i got to that point i had a better understanding of the cancer industry of what my options were and there weren't many but i had received a book from some friends of my wife from utah and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against He said in a trial that Brzezinski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, wanna look at my cancer?
	Look at this, it's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	Um, he doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti... And then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest.
	That, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative, don't, you know, they're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	So this is something that if you do watch a Blood Money podcast, we hear it over and over again.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean, most of them, and that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative.
	And you're talking about a million doctors out there.
	And out of those million, maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative.
	And lo and behold, people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski, turned out to be correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money, and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be, have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	There's all the cancer money.
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they can get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely.
	Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer-free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer-free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer-free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely, and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists, and most people don't understand what oncologists or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer, and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So they're at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy, infreusing cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	Mm-hmm. I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA, Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect...
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self-survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that, and yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and...
	Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antioneoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic if you get enough of it.
	But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict him. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is a story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that... It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplastin would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the way of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought that happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming up with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality, or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue, common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah, it's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the anti-neoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up. You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit to him standing up and saying this?
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons, actually, we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar Experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on, the fact that you got to where you even got and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, It's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	No one wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So where is this journey? Sorry?
	No, I just said I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antianyoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antianyoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is...
	A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID. A situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know?
	So... Pam, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constituted is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
	Totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that so Yeah You You you
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	of blood money and today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben.
	Awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third year, Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Brzezinski in a trial and that Brzezinski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas, to see this doctor, perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about...
	Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this, it's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or...
	No, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	And then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say...
	Exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to financial interest, that the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong, because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine, they don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming, so there's no preventative medicine.
	Then you get the cancer, and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative, don't, you know, they're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there and they're really doing their own research.
	So this is something that if you do watch a Blood Money podcast, we hear it over and over again.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean, most of them, and you know, that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative.
	And you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million, maybe four or 500 stood against the government narrative.
	And lo and behold, people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski, turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money. And that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent $6.5 billion on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely. Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah. What ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Wow. From their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with vincristin and cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy in for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy, in every situation, to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	and hundreds of doctors just looked the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X.
	And X was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antioneoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothball for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing anti-neoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict him. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed, really, multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it, and he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulator, regulatory industry and the FDA. And that, by the way, is not true right now.
	For whatever reason, for the last few years, FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor Brzezinski has an FDA approved block long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already, what his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the way of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming out with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue, common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the anti-neoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up. Or Joe McCullough.
	You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar There are other experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998, When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah, and by people's silence and acquiescing, silence is acquiescence, look where we are today, because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement, Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	No one wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So where is this journey? Sorry?
	No, I just said I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antianyoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antianyoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is...
	A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	That's awesome. This has been wonderful, and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school, and he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, Lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know?
	So... Pam, on your story...
	I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah. And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yep, yep, totally. Totally.
	Totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that.
	So yeah.
	So.
	on the latest episode of Blood Money.
	And today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live and I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third The third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Berzynski in a trial and that Berzynski had lost.
	Mm-hmm. And that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering with children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point, for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist, and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, or not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or...
	No, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplastin, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti, and then neoplastic are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest.
	That, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then We're good to go.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean, most of them, and you know, that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative.
	And you're talking about a million doctors out there.
	And out of those million, maybe four or 500 stood against the government narrative.
	And lo and behold, people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski. Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	Just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be have been smart enough and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely.
	Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy, infreusing cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA, Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that, and yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. An X was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these anti-neoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothball for...
	People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing anti-neoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing is non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor Cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now, you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict this. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is again a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it, and he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this Dr.
	Brzezinski has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming out with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	And once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the antineoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up.
	Or Joe McCullough. You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world and I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation.
	But look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	No one wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	You're like, we have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So where is this journey? Sorry?
	No, I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites.
	One for antianyoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antianyoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So, the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski Patient Group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	That's awesome. This has been wonderful, and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID. Bam, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military going to the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yep, yep, totally.
	Totally, totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world and you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that.
	So yeah.
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	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter, pinpointed pupils, for instance, lethargy.
	She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Berzynski in a trial and that Berzynski had lost.
	And that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this, it's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or...
	No, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplastin, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti, and then neoplastic are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest.
	That, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative.
	They're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	So this is something that if you do watch a Blood Money podcast, we hear it over and over again.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean, most of them, and that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative.
	And you're talking about a million doctors out there, and out of those million, maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold, people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski, turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there.
	I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money. And that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely. Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	In his own words, we didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time and we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy in for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	Mm-hmm. I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making it a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And X was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and...
	Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antineoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing anti-neoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic if you get enough of it.
	But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor Cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think, at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict him. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean this is again a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through and that's what they do.
	They come after you, they come after your license.
	I mean that It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it, and he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, and the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this Dr.
	Brzezinski has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular deaths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplastin would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought that happens.
	You know, I assumed like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming out with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity.
	Oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah, it's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the antioneoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up. Or Joe McCullough.
	You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world and I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation.
	But look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are going to die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	No one wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Where is this journey?
	I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antioneoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antioneoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So, the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski Patient Group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know.
	So, Vam on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I'm completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military going to the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
	Totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or having chosen to go to alternative sites, not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	Yeah. And I'm certain I'm still not getting that.
	Yeah. All
	right, we're on the latest episode of Blood Money, and today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow, wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Burzynski in a trial and that Burzynski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Burzynski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas, to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about...
	Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	People I didn't know. Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti, and then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say...
	Exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest, that, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then We're good to go.
	This COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean most of them, and you know that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative, and you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski, Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money, and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all have been smart enough, and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent $6.5 billion on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely.
	Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	I mean, it's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making it a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	But leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	And I didn't- Totally.
	Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients, potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski, so let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967, and what he did was look at sick people and healthy people, and he was looking in their urine and Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antineoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict... Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that...
	It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry and the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was gonna get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming out with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity.
	Oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	And once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the antianeoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming wasn't dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up. You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world and I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Where is this journey?
	I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antioneoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antioneoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down and when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So, the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski Patient Group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War.
	And lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know.
	So, Vim, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally, totally.
	It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world and you got to be on your toes.
	You got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that. So yeah.
	So, yeah.
	I'm not sure.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair. She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third year, Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Well, he said in a trial and that Brzezinski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering with children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different.
	That this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at the before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	And then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest.
	That, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative.
	They're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	That a lot of doctors, I mean most of them, and you know that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative, and you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski. Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money. And that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be have been smart enough.
	We should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	Where's all the cancer money?
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely. Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists, who by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who could make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So they're at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxan and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF.
	And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original Army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy, increasing cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	Mm-hmm. I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that.
	And yet for years, oh, well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antioneoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothball for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing is non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict... Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that...
	It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski, is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry, the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplasty would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming up with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality, or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue, common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish the Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the antianeoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up.
	You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences.
	Experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the mRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	And now he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was the guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know. I certainly didn't know.
	And the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	You're like, we have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Where is this journey?
	I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antioneoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antioneoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War.
	And lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those jabs and the boosters and all that stuff.
	So Vam on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constitute.
	It is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
	Totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you've got to be on your toes.
	You've got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that. So yeah.
	So.
	on the latest episode of Blood Money.
	And today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She's just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live.
	And I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Well, he said in a trial and that Brzezinski had lost and that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about Less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at before and afters.
	Just people I didn't know.
	Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this, it's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	He doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or...
	No, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplastin, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	It's anti, and then neoplastic are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest.
	That, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative, don't, you know, they're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	So this is something that if you do watch a Blood Money podcast, we hear it over and over again.
	And one other point I want to make, I think this whole COVID-19 situation, I won't even call it a pandemic, I think revealed that a lot of doctors, I mean, most of them, and that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative.
	And you're talking about a million doctors out there, and out of those million, maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative.
	And lo and behold, people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski, turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there, I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money and that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They're in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be have been smart enough and we should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	There's all the cancer money.
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they could get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely.
	Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah, what ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Now, from their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original Army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	In his own words, we didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time and we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy, infreusing cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	It's self-policing.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy in every situation to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	And hundreds of doctors Just look the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that, and yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X. And next was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski, so let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967, and what he did was look at sick people and healthy people, and he was looking in their urine and Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these antioneoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothball for...
	People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing antineoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor Cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now you would think, at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict him. Could I interrupt you real quick here?
	I mean, this is, again, a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is a story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that... It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulator, regulated industry and the FDA. And that, by the way, is not true right now.
	For whatever reason, for the last few years, FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor Brzezinski has an FDA approved block long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already.
	What his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplastin would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the wave of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming up with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality, or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish a Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah, it's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the anti-neoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes to the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming wasn't dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up.
	Or Joe McCullough. You actually sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons actually we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on The fact that you got to where you even got, and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, it's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing.
	Silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today. Because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement.
	Based upon the information you're putting out, I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people.
	While this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And that's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know. I certainly didn't know.
	And the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people, like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	You're like, we have to be better than this.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So where is this journey? Sorry?
	No, I just said I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antianyoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antianyoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow, GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski Patient Group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	That's awesome. This has been wonderful, and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school, and he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, Lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID situation where a lot of people are regretting taking those, you know, jabs and, you know, the boosters and all that stuff, you know?
	So... Pam, on your story...
	I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military going to the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on, no one's willing to tell you what they constituted is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
	Totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you've got to be on your toes.
	You've got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people, the same place, and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	Yeah. And I'm certain I'm still not getting that.
	Yeah. All
	right, we're on the latest episode of Blood Money, and today I have a very special guest, Mr.
	Rick Schiff, who has an amazing story to tell.
	How are you doing, Mr. Schiff?
	I'm just fine, Ben. Awesome.
	Thank you so much for coming on the Blood Money podcast.
	You know, let's just dive right into it.
	Your bio on its own, which is going to be written below as well, is extremely fascinating.
	I mean, what a journey. Could you just, you know, take us through what got you to this point where you are speaking out about the topics in your bio?
	Sure. I was a police officer for the city and county of San Francisco in 1994.
	I had four children, I had a fifth child on the way, and focusing entirely on my career and my family, soccer every day.
	And then in the middle of all that, one of my children developed an incurable brain tumor.
	Extremely rare. And the onset was very, very fast.
	And it just blindsided us.
	It just took us off the ground and swept us into a world that we were not prepared to deal with.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	And take us through that.
	I mean, what...
	Yeah. So, again, of course, it's a very long convoluted story, but the high points are...
	As a police officer, I was recognizing some neurological dysfunction in my daughter.
	Pinpointed pupils, for instance.
	Lethargy. She slept a lot.
	It didn't really mean much to me at the time because children's neurological systems are not very advanced and are capable of doing all kinds of crazy things and still being normal.
	I took her to the doctor several times.
	There's nothing wrong with your doctor.
	And then one day, I got a complaint from the daycare that she was at with her twin sister, identical twin sister.
	She just didn't seem right.
	So I left work, made an appointment to take her to the doctors.
	When I showed up, all the children were outside playing but her.
	She was sitting on a couch, got off the couch and approached me, but walked sideways.
	Wow. Wow.
	Immediately, I identified that she could only see out of the corner of her eyes.
	Took her to our local hospital who did an MRI. They found what they recognized as a large nodule in the right ventricle of her brain, about the size of a tangerine.
	They immediately sent us over to UCSF, the local, really, cancer institute for the Bay Area, that and Stanford.
	By the next morning, we had found, within two days, we had found that the cancer had spread throughout the spinal access.
	It had coated the entire spine and brain like maple syrup.
	And nodule had grown out in the right ventricle in addition to that.
	And they made it pretty clear to us at the time that our daughter's survival rate was really non-existent.
	Not knowing much about cancer, not knowing much about treatments, and believing that I was in one of the best institutions to deal with cancer in the world, I followed the advice of the doctors.
	I'm going to take this point to say, everyone will say, well, you listen to the doctors.
	They're the experts.
	You did what you could.
	That really isn't true.
	And for parents, I want to say, what's in your head is right.
	What's around you in the world is for you to judge as to whether it's best or not best for your child.
	And I knew at the time that I didn't agree with them.
	But I did follow through on their therapy.
	They gave her simultaneous brain radiation, whole brain radiation, and chemotherapy.
	At the end of six months, my daughter looked like Gollum.
	She didn't have any hair.
	She just turned into this wretched little creature that couldn't walk, could barely speak, gaunt.
	And I was right back where I started, which is cancer was still there.
	She only had a month or two to live and I hadn't done anything but bought her five or six months of absolute misery.
	Once again, I spent that six months learning and reading.
	So when I got to that point, I had a better understanding of the cancer industry, of what my options were, and there weren't many.
	But I had received a book from some friends of my wife from Utah, and in the third Third chapter was a piece on Dr.
	Stanislaw Brzezinski and improvements that he was making in cancer research and success that he'd had specifically in brain tumors.
	So I went to my doctors and asked them, hey, what's with this guy?
	It sounds like he's doing pretty well.
	To a person, they all claimed he was a fraud.
	The head of oncology, Mike Predos at the time, had said that he had testified against Berzynski in a trial and that Berzynski had lost.
	And that they had found him to be fraudulent.
	The thing is, at that point, I had talked to probably seven or eight other parents of patients that had been to Brzezinski.
	And as a police officer, I could tell they weren't shills.
	Those were all parents who were suffering children with cancer.
	And there's no actor good enough to represent that.
	So I took her to Houston, Texas to see this doctor perfectly willing to get on the airplane and leave.
	And of course, my expertise is in fraud.
	Really, it took about less than 30 minutes in his waiting room to realize that this was different, that this doctor was doing something much different than any other doctor we had seen up to that point.
	There were a lot of doctors. There were patients in the waiting room holding their MRIs who were begging for you to look at before and afters.
	People I didn't know. Hey, want to look at my cancer?
	Look at this. It's disappearing.
	I had never been in a waiting room with cancer patients that were hopeful, to be honest.
	And I've been around a lot of cancer patients.
	The other thing to note at this point for people who are skeptical, Dr.
	Brzezinski does not have a pathologist and he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So everyone who is diagnosed that goes to see Dr.
	Brzezinski to this day is diagnosed by UCSF, Stanford, the major hospitals, not major hospitals, Kaiser, whomever.
	Um, he doesn't do the diagnosis.
	So for those people who say, well, he cherry picks or no, it's not possible.
	Then the next thing is, as you progress on his treatment, you're back at your original hospital who are following you.
	Again, he doesn't have an MRI machine.
	So he is not the person who says that you're improving and he is not really the person who says that you're cured.
	That's based on the evidence from your hospital.
	So I agreed to start on the treatment.
	He had had no specific experience with that brain tumor, but very few doctors had ever seen it.
	Extremely rare. And just over the next few months, as she hooked up to this medicine and it went throughout her body, she got better and better.
	And what was the medicine, by the way?
	It's anti-neoplasty, which is exactly what it sounds like.
	And then neoplasty are cancer cells.
	Neoplastins are cancer cells.
	So it's anti-cancer cells.
	Would you like for me to get into a description of the basic mechanism of it?
	Yeah, yeah. Before you get into that, I mean, on the Blood Money Podcast, we've interviewed a lot of doctors, and this is something that we keep hearing.
	I mean, you know, for the viewer out there who's skeptical about these alternative treatments, I mean, you have a host of doctors right now, like Dr.
	Carter, Dr. Michael Lewis, Dr.
	Joe Nuzma, that basically say, Exactly what you're saying, that our medical industrial complex has been corrupted due to, you know, financial interest, that, you know, the treatments that they have out there are really, the whole thing's done wrong because a lot of the time they don't do preventative medicine.
	They don't check all the details of your blood and what's inside you, what's coming.
	So there's no preventative medicine.
	Then, you know, you get the cancer and then They put you on these chemotherapy treatments, which actually also cause cancer.
	And the whole thing doesn't make sense.
	So a lot of these, I guess what I would say is doctors that just don't follow the narrative.
	They're not the ones that are following what the pharmaceutical industrial complex is putting out there.
	And they're really doing their own research.
	That a lot of doctors, I mean most of them, and you know that's another thing we do is we interview a lot of these frontline doctors that stood against the narrative, and you're talking about a million doctors out there and out of those million maybe four or five hundred stood against the government narrative, and lo and behold people like Dr.
	McCullough that were also being called frauds, like Dr.
	Brzezinski. Turned out to be, you know, correct about the dangers of this COVID vaccine.
	So going at this point, I think in this day and age, if you do your research, just going with, you know, the doctors in the medical industrial complex, those 99% of doctors out there I mean, there are other ideas out there.
	There are better ideas out there.
	And just you got to understand where that's all coming from.
	It's coming from an industrial complex that doesn't necessarily have your better interest because their goal is to make a whole bunch of money to drag out these sort of things to sell chemotherapy.
	So anyway, just wanted to mention that for the viewer.
	And there's so much that you said that I agree with.
	I agree with everything you've said, and I probably have something to say about each of it.
	Let's go to the money aspect and kind of do it backwards.
	65% of my retirement as a police officer is invested in pharmaceuticals.
	They make money. And that is their job.
	Their job is not to be the guardians of the public moray.
	They are not in the business to make you well.
	They are in the business of selling you treatments.
	And we should all be have been smart enough.
	We should be smart enough to understand that.
	If you look at the National Cancer Institute, they spent six and a half billion dollars on cancer research in 2020.
	Where's the cure? There have been no significant cures in cancer for the last 30 years from radiation and chemotherapy.
	Now, one thing you did touch on that I'm not quite sure which side of the ball you were on, there have been significant improvements in diagnosis and early prevention.
	Those are the two areas, and the other areas for cures have been horrifically poor.
	There's all the cancer money.
	When you say early diagnosis and stuff, again, the earlier they diagnose you, the earlier they can get you on certain medications, there's financial interest in there.
	Again, we're not talking about curing.
	We're talking about the stuff that makes them more money, which seems to be the areas of research that are really being followed.
	I agree completely. Let's go back to Michael Prados, the header of neuro-oncology at UCSF. The one that said, I testified against Brzezinski.
	So now my daughter, progressing in the story, my daughter winds up cancer-free.
	And there's quite a bit to this story, but suffice to say, there's an autopsy that's done when she dies.
	UCSF confirmed she died cancer-free.
	Now, this is the only child who's ever had the malignant rhabdoid tumor to have been cancer-free.
	It was miraculous.
	Anyone who saw that should have said, wow, there's something really here.
	None of them said that.
	And the fact that she died cancer-free, but she nonetheless died because of the radiation and treatment.
	Yeah. What ultimately killed her was the initial whole brain radiation was 9,000 rads.
	In combination with the chemotherapy, she got neurological necrosis.
	Her brain literally fell apart.
	Wow. From their perspective, they didn't expect her to live the 18 months that it would take for us to see that.
	Mm-hmm. So they weren't afraid until she started living 18 months, and then they started treating us very poorly and did all kinds of horrific things to try and harass us out of the hospital, refusing to take care of our daughter.
	We hear this again with the COVID situation.
	It's like they turn into gangsters when something happens that doesn't follow their narrative, it seems like.
	Well, I agree completely and let's talk about who they are.
	We're talking about oncologists and most people don't understand what oncologist or oncology is.
	You know, here's a doctor, we're in a white smock, must really know something about cancer and nothing could be further from the truth.
	Your oncologist is more than likely a hematologist.
	That's what they came out as a specialty from their medical school as.
	Each hospital needs maybe two hematologists.
	So what do we do with all these hematologists who, by the way, were at the bottom of their medical class?
	These are not people who can make it as a neurosurgeon or even a general physician.
	So at the bottom of their class, well, essentially they become shills for pharma.
	They become alchemists matching up toxic chemotherapies in a sink, running the same clinical trials with Vincristin and Cytoxin and VP16 that they've been running for nearly 40 years.
	And I did sue UCSF. And interestingly, in the process, I came across a doctor named William Regelson.
	He was one of the original army doctors from Reed Hospital who invented chemotherapy.
	He was testifying for us because he was so...
	I'm dismayed that the stopgap measure that he and the other doctors developed had become mainstream medicine.
	We didn't choose chemotherapy because we wanted it.
	We chose it because it was all we could find at the time.
	And we were trying to buy patients time for modern medicine to progress to find something better.
	But that's not what happened.
	Pharma took over and made an industry out of toxic chemotherapy.
	And this is the inventor of toxic chemotherapy in for using cancer.
	Which isn't, by the way, the first inventor that's had, you know, mea culpa or whatever after the fact of, you know, something getting out there.
	I mean, we heard the same about the mRNA vaccines.
	Sure. You know, nuclear bomb.
	I mean, if you think about it, you know.
	Yeah, it seems like when humans misuse something that's invented, that always becomes a problem.
	Would you mind if I interject with an analogy that will help your listeners maybe see how I see this whole being played, including the mRNA?
	I play basketball with the same group of friends that I've known since we were 10 years old.
	It could be any sport, baseball, basketball, it doesn't matter.
	Talk about basketball. My best friend goes up to make a jump shot and what do I do?
	I cheap shot him.
	Why? Because there are no refs.
	Because we're not playing a game that we expect anybody to really follow the rules in.
	Now, progress to, well, what's the next level up?
	What are we looking for? Well, we're looking for a fair, clean game.
	Oh, okay, then we need to bring refs into the game.
	So we bring in refs.
	Now we're at the high school, possibly collegiate level, except the refs are particular to our schools.
	We don't have independent refs.
	Now we get to the NBA and look at what the NBA has done.
	They have taken technology, modern science, everything that they've learned over the last 75 years of playing basketball to make it a clean game.
	All depended on the refereeing.
	Now we look over the ref's calls with videotape.
	All of that has been oriented in making a clean game.
	And I will argue that the reason why you see what you see with the mRNA, and obviously we have similar feelings about what happened with that, what's happened with the cancer industry, what happened with the FDA, with the NIDIA. Under Fauci, all happened because there are no refs in the game.
	We're expecting the poison pushers to self-police themselves, which pretty much explains every industrial complex.
	I mean, every industrial complex in our country is self-policed, and I don't know how you could expect people.
	I mean, they're not going to handcuff themselves, you know?
	Well, again, I have a vested interest in farming making money.
	So on the one hand, that's great for me.
	On the other hand, my children are dying.
	There needs to be somebody in every kind of market economy, in every situation, to make sure that the game is being played fairly and decently.
	It's amazing how well we do that in sports.
	And how poorly we found out recently with the mRNA, how poorly we do that with science.
	That a Walensky or a Fauci can run the world based on how much money they hand out to people, essentially buying hospitals, scientists, institutions to do their bidding and look the other way.
	I mean, you just mentioned a few minutes ago that there's a handful of people that stood up like McCullough and said anything.
	Joe Mercola, another one, who's really stepped out of the batter's box against their own sense of self survival and said, this is wrong.
	What's wrong with you people?
	and hundreds of doctors just looked the other way or blatantly lied.
	With a leaky virus, there was never any chance of herd immunity.
	And anyone who knew anything about viruses should have known that, and yet for years, oh well, you know, if we inoculate people with this mRNA that doesn't stop transmission, we will accomplish X.
	And X was never possible.
	Where were the refs in the game to say, whoa, no.
	We all know that's not true.
	We're the independent people.
	And I think that's where we really fall short in all areas.
	I hope that analogy is useful.
	Totally. Earlier you were talking about, which we didn't really complete, the Dr.
	Brzezinski method of exactly what's going on there in terms of how this helps cancer patients potentially much more so than chemotherapy.
	There are two sides to Dr.
	Brzezinski. So let's talk about side one, which is his medication.
	The antineoplastin is based on polypeptide chains that he discovered back in 1967.
	And what he did was look at sick people and healthy people.
	And he was looking in their urine and...
	Analyzing blood and urine is how most medications or most diseases have been located.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That was ideally what he was supposed to do.
	But he noticed that these anti-neoplastins existed in healthy people, but not in unhealthy people with autoimmune diseases in particular.
	So he extrapolated them for urine.
	And through the late 60s and early 70s, there was a battleship in Houston, Texas.
	Mothballed for... People to come in and climb on and see.
	And all the urine drained down into these vats.
	Well, they let him have the urine for free.
	So he was processing anti-neoplastins out of this urine, pulling out the healthy ones and injecting them in mice.
	Their autoimmune diseases, in particular cancer, disappeared.
	He completed phase one clinical studies.
	And that's another thing that people don't really seem to follow.
	He proved in his phase one clinical studies that his treatment is non-toxic.
	It's a tough word.
	Somebody in the back is going to say, wait a minute, nothing's non-toxic.
	That's true. Water is toxic.
	You can get enough of it. But relative to antihistamines, his toxicity would be in line with an antihistamine.
	Certainly nothing like cancer treatments.
	In phase two clinical studies, which he completed 13 of, he injected those into patients and had the best results for brain tumor Cures than all clinical trials for brain tumors ever done combined.
	Wow. Now, you would think at that point, people would come out of the woodwork to support him.
	And that's really when the FDA stepped up attacking him for various reasons.
	He was indicted.
	He was not indicted.
	He was drugged before grand juries five times.
	And none of them came back with an indictment.
	The old line being, a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
	They couldn't indict... Could I interrupt you real quick?
	I mean, this is again a reoccurring theme.
	The reason I have to pause here is because this is the story we heard about so many of these frontline doctors during the COVID pandemic, especially Dr.
	McCullough, who we've interviewed really multiple times throughout this nightmare that has been put through.
	And that's what they do. They come after you.
	They come after your license.
	I mean, that... It's almost like we have to interpret those kind of actions, that the good guys are the ones that constantly get attacked.
	Dr. Joe Nuzma was also telling me, you know, he's got this chlorine dioxide treatment, which apparently chlorine dioxide does a lot of good.
	There's a lot of research behind it, tons of research behind it.
	And he can't even talk about it in public in ways that you should be able to talk about certain things that are helpful because he's worried that the feds are going to come knock on his door.
	The FDA is going to come after him.
	Well, and that's the problem for Dr.
	Brzezinski is the more people he cures, the more ire he seems to pull from the regulatory industry and the FDA. That, by the way, is not true right now for whatever reason for the last few years.
	The FDA seems to be doing pretty well with him.
	Remember, this doctor, Brzezinski, has an FDA-approved block-long pharmaceutical lab.
	He's finished phase two clinical studies, which proved in phase two, basically you're testing for efficacy, dosaging and efficacy.
	So we don't have to wonder whether it works.
	And the mechanism that I was going to get to, I should have gotten to already, what his treatment does is program cancer cells to die in normal cellular death.
	So what cancer essentially is, It's cells from any part of your body, except I believe your eyeballs, which replicate and don't die a normal cellular death.
	Well, he found the key to the lock to switch them back To normal cellular depths.
	So it's more like surgery.
	He's debulking the tumor from inside of the cellular level.
	There are some problems with it in that now we get to cancer overall.
	Here's what we know about cancer.
	It's four or five diseases rolled up in one.
	You're not just treating a disease, which makes it very problematic.
	Also, you and I can have exactly the same diagnosis for cancer, liver cancer, brain tumor, say an astrocytoma.
	The treatments may not be the same for you and me because we have different genomes.
	So it requires a genetic test to see what your cancer is based on genetically to determine what treatments in addition to his antineoplastin would be useful to take care of you.
	It's called gene targeted therapy.
	And it is really the way of the future.
	Wow, wow. I mean, it sounds brilliant.
	I mean, just hearing doctors that are continuing to research when, you know, that's what I thought happens.
	You know, I assumed, like any PhD, you're constantly doing research, you're constantly coming out with new material.
	Apparently, that's not the way things go down within our medical industrial complex.
	A lot of these doctors are pretty docile to whatever That they're handed is the research.
	They don't seem to be wanting to go beyond that level of curiosity of, oh, let me see if this stuff is actually based in reality or was the research skewed for political purposes, financial purposes?
	Well, who's making that decision?
	Because you take a person like Fauci who has a financial interest in pharma and whose employees all are either going to go work for pharma as scientists or as regulators, move from regulation to the pharma industry.
	It's all about how much money they get.
	They get a portion of the patent for what they develop on government time while we're paying their salaries.
	Now, I understand part of the problem with that, which is that if you take Major scientists, outstanding scientists, they need to be compensated the way they would be if they were out in the public arena.
	I agree with that.
	But the system, the way it's set up, they're not.
	And they're going to move to the private sector.
	They know they're going to move to the private sector.
	What is their motivation to protect you and I while they're being paid by the government?
	I would argue common sense, not very high.
	Yeah, yeah. It's almost like you need rock solid.
	I mean, in a way like where you have, you know, do no harm, you know, that sort of logic has to be codified in law as opposed to kind of this movement of where we're going, where that seems to be going away.
	But as you codify law, you find that the laws that are being codified are all being codified in the direction of people making money and not your benefit or my benefit.
	Once again, we're the refs.
	We're the police to say, no, that's wrong.
	That's not the public's interest.
	This is the public's interest.
	And once again, I'm not smart enough to know those answers.
	I need somebody to represent me in the FDA who's going to say, why are we spending our time and money looking at toxic chemotherapies?
	Why don't we finish a Phase III clinical study for Dr.
	Brzezinski, who's got a non-toxic treatment, and see where that takes us?
	And that's not in the equation at all.
	No one's thinking like that.
	Brzezinski has to come up with his own $450 million, and we're going to make it an uphill climb for the guy.
	Meanwhile, our children are dying.
	Yeah. It's madness.
	It's madness. I mean, this obviously was an awful experience and you're telling me like, you know, you're running the story through your mind.
	I mean, how does this like affect you on a daily basis?
	The fact that you've been through this terrible tragedy that you know in your soul could have been prevented if it wasn't for corruption and financial interests.
	I'm going to start off by taking responsibility for myself.
	I am responsible for the decisions that I made for my daughter.
	Had I done the research that I could have done, which was there, had I gone with my gut feeling that this was not making any sense, it wasn't adding up, I'm going to find a treatment for my daughter and not just try and buy time.
	My daughter would be alive and well today.
	Because if the anti-neoplasty works for you, then it would work.
	There are some people who do not have the right genetics.
	It covers about 126 different genomes.
	If you have the wrong ones, it's not going to do anything for you.
	That is a science that we need to develop and identify more antineoplastins.
	But right now, we know it would have worked for my daughter.
	It did work, but I made poor decisions.
	I am ultimately responsible for that.
	And no matter who I point the finger at, I made the mistakes.
	Having said that, It was an industry that I wasn't prepared to work in.
	Keep in mind, I'm trained for critical incidences.
	I choose who goes through the front door.
	I choose how we handle the active shooter.
	That I'm trained for.
	And this is nothing like that.
	It completely blindsided me.
	And part of my shortcoming was in dealing with it as I would have a police critical incident.
	Toughening up. That was not the answer.
	Then, from then on, when I take responsibility for myself, I look across the board and who's advocating for you?
	I mean, this Dr. McCullough, he stands up and he says, wait, this doesn't make sense.
	This doesn't add up. You actually just sounded like him.
	Your decibel went high a little bit.
	That was a good imitation of Dr.
	McCullough. I hope I don't offend him.
	What was the benefit?
	To him standing up and saying this.
	People have to stop and think.
	If somebody is standing up and saying, folks, there's a problem here you really need to look at.
	They know that they're standing up against the tidal wave.
	They know it's not popular.
	That's the person you want to listen to, people.
	And yet, what happened?
	So if we are not going to take responsibility for ourselves and our own medicine, then my suggestion is we hire some really good refs, some good people to protect us that are independent from the industries that you and I have been discussing.
	Yeah, totally. I mean, sir, I think...
	The research you did is amazing.
	And I can tell you from personal experiences, sometimes when we go through these incredibly difficult times, tragedies, challenges, I mean, we dive into that world.
	And I give you so much credit for doing what you did.
	And I do feel like you're being a little harsh upon yourself because you're not a doctor.
	It's like they've been lying to us for so long.
	And one of the reasons, actually, we do this Blood Money series is because the producers and myself have gone through similar experiences.
	Experiences where we realize we're being lied to and there has to be a mechanism whereby which the people get the truth, right?
	People get to watch this kind of a show and learn there are other options that we're being lied to.
	So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because this journey you've been on, the fact that you got to where you even got and I realized the tragedy that was there, I mean, It's incredible that you've been a voice and you have your own personal story in order to give as an example to people to prevent the next such tragedy from happening.
	Well, I appreciate you giving me this format to, if you will, vent on.
	You know, I recognize that the video from, I think, 1997, 1998 When I testified in Congress, it's still out there.
	I'm shocked that it is.
	I think what really hurts me most out of that is that it's nearly 30 years.
	And I'm happy that people enjoy the video.
	Hopefully it provides some thought to people.
	Maybe they're making better decisions for themselves.
	But what progress have we really made?
	And if I'm using that as a measure, as a metrics, as a metrics here, we've really made very, very little progress.
	Yeah. And by people's silence and acquiescing, silence is acquiescence.
	Look where we are today, because if, you know, there had been a movement, there had been a mass movement based upon the information you're putting out.
	I mean, they wouldn't have been able to get away with this COVID situation, but look at the tragedy we're facing right now.
	Some doctors are saying, you know, billions of people are gonna die because of myocarditis and all that.
	That wouldn't have happened if we had these industries in check.
	I agree completely.
	And I also just, it's a little off topic, but everything that I have seen or heard about the MRNA is the antithesis of what we're being told on the news.
	And I have to go, my experience, at the time that COVID came out, I was the night commanding officer.
	I ran the police department at night for the city and county of San Francisco.
	And in that, I was involved in a number of meetings.
	But we all got COVID back in October, November of 2019.
	We just didn't know it.
	Wow. So who knew?
	To us, it was just another stomach flu.
	We were working nights. We were used to being sick.
	But I remember talking to some of the medical people while this was going on and policies were being developed.
	And That's when I started to become, and I had this as an opportunity.
	I admit that most people don't get this.
	But I had these health directors asking me, why are we wearing these masks?
	You know, I went to medical school.
	They tell us it doesn't work against everybody.
	Somebody was telling me that they discovered this in ancient times, by the way, like, I don't know, like 20 something, 2600 years ago, they already figured out masks don't work.
	But yet we are here, millennials later, selling the same nonsense.
	Well, the people who were telling this guy to shut up in our meetings were doctors.
	And you're kind of like, really?
	You know, that's not right.
	Finally, I had a guy lean over to me and he said, hey, I know how to settle this.
	Now, he's not talking up anymore because no one wants to hear it.
	Nobody wants to hear common sense.
	Or his learned opinion.
	So he goes, go on the website for the FDA and look for masks in relation to smoke, which we've had a number of very large fires here in California, and see what it says, and then look for it for viruses.
	Because smoke particles are smaller than the virus.
	And it says right on the website that masks don't work to filter smoke.
	And sure enough, I did it, and it was right there.
	And he went, what are we doing here?
	Where are we going with this?
	That was a guy who really knew his stuff.
	And he's asking why we're going off on these political agendas.
	He didn't know, and I certainly didn't know, and the rest is history.
	Yeah, yeah. I'm smiling because there was a meme back a couple of years ago about a fart and wearing a mask and the air particles are still going to get through it.
	So if you smell that, the chances are that that's not going to do anything with COVID. I mean, a lot of this was very logical, but I still see people like one out of 20, 30 people wearing a mask out there.
	Well, the ones I like are the ones that drive past me by themselves in a car.
	We have to be better than this as a people.
	We are more educated than any group of people in the history of the world, accumulatively, and we're still not getting it.
	I don't know what the answer to that is, but...
	I'll go back to my basketball analogy.
	I'm all for hiring really good refs, paying them well, and making sure that they can't gamble on the game, that they can't do.
	As an analogy, they are independent.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	So where is this journey? Sorry?
	No, I just said I'm willing to spend my money on that.
	Use my tax money for it.
	So where has this journey led you?
	I mean, are you working on informing people about these other alternative options?
	What are you, you know, currently working on?
	Well, so here's what happened.
	I was on GoDaddy's platform with two different websites, one for antianyoplastin and one for gene targeted therapy.
	Now, antianyoplastin is used for gene targeted therapy.
	But one is a tool and one is a science.
	And somehow GoDaddy, intentionally or not intentionally, I have to believe it's unintentional, didn't send us the bill to the right email address.
	Oh, wow. So we didn't get the bill.
	We didn't pay for it.
	They shut our website down.
	And when they shut it down, they deleted all our information and just killed our sites.
	Wow. So the wonderful woman that's been doing the Brzezinski patient group website, which is A history of patients and their stories, including my daughter's.
	I'm probably going to help her update her website and make it more user-friendly, make it more contemporary.
	It's been a little while since patients have been added to it.
	I think partially with COVID and the focus on that, this ball kind of got dropped.
	Personally, that's what I'm doing.
	I'd like to do anything else that I can.
	I'm retired now, so I'm looking for ways to try and improve my world around me.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	This has been wonderful and I really hope that the viewers take heed and research these alternative options.
	Don't take the word of the government.
	This is something I learned about 30 years ago.
	Just a quick personal story that I want to throw out there.
	I had a really good friend named Christian growing up in high school.
	And he was given some medications in the first Iraq War, and lo and behold, after that, and I'm talking about the Gulf War in 91, lo and behold, after that, he developed leukemia, died soon after.
	A lot of individuals that were his, you know, fellow soldiers, same thing happened to them.
	And that taught me a lesson very early on.
	You got to do your own research.
	Don't take what, you know, they tell you to take.
	And we've seen this in the COVID. Pam, on your story, I think that that would be the same time.
	They wouldn't even tell him what injections he got.
	Yeah. And I am completely sympathetic.
	I was in the Army. I have a lot of friends who are Army, a lot of military go in the police department.
	And to be given injections of things that even later on no one's willing to tell you what they constituted is horrific.
	How can we do that to our soldiers?
	Yep, yep, totally.
	Totally, totally. It just makes you know some of the dark realities of this world.
	And you've got to be on your toes.
	You've got to be on your toes. Don't take anybody's word for anything.
	Do your own research. Be your own man.
	Be your own woman. That's the way that you survive better in this world, I think, just having your own independent thought.
	Mr. Schiff, is there anything that we didn't discuss that you'd want to talk about?
	Websites? How people could help this cause?
	Anything else? The mic is yours.
	You know, I think you touched on an interesting point at the end, which is what we're all facing now.
	Where do we get our information from?
	I have very, very intelligent, well-educated friends who get their information from the same people in the same place and all those other doctors we talked about, and they are absolutely adamantly sure that the mRNA is safe and effective.
	They are not...
	In a position or haven't chosen to go to alternative sites.
	Not everybody goes to Substack or gets information from the various people who have something contentious to say about the mRNA.
	More people than less have chosen to just buy into the program.
	Where do you do your research now?
	That's not a rhetorical question.
	I'm asking that. I have to really work to get both sides of the story, in my opinion.
	And I'm certain I'm still not getting that.

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