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Sept. 30, 2023 - Blood Money
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Rejecting Wokism, Embracing Conservative Values w/ Ace Battle - Blood Money Episode 82
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Really had an influence on the way, you know, on what you believe right now?
Man, there's a lot of things.
I mean, I grew up in Decatur, Georgia.
And, you know, so I grew up in an all-Black community.
When I was younger, probably around about 12 years old, I had to move to the other side of town.
It was more predominantly white or mixed type of school or whatever the case is.
I hated it. I didn't want to go there.
I was like, oh, I got to go over here with these people over here and stuff like that.
It really was a culture shock for me.
I think a lot of people need a culture shock, but it was a culture shock for me.
When I went over there, I was thinking I was going to be fighting people of a different ethnic background than me, but I was fighting my own people, fighting people that looked like me.
But still, growing up, I thought like a lot of other people think that in my communities, Because you're not around other people like that.
But once I started driving trucks as I got older, as I spent a lot more time around different cultures, studying politics and studying statistics and stuff, I had a clearer picture.
And it really opened up my eyes to certain things because with all this separation in our country right now and in the division, I think it just holds a lot of us back.
And I feel like even then, growing up, it held me back because when I moved to the other side of town, I didn't want to play football anymore.
I didn't want to play in sports anymore.
And I think it holds a lot of people back with this division that they're allowing these politics and stuff like that and racism and all these things to divide the people.
Yeah. It's destroying this nation.
It's what? It's destroying this nation in general.
It is. It is. Yeah. I mean, if we're talking, you know, it's like if you look at the mainstream media, like somebody with my complexion and your complexion, we're supposed to be divided, have, you know, all these disagreements and stuff.
But when we talk, it seems like we agree pretty much like 100, about 100 percent of Everything.
I mean, the attack on the family, what they're trying to do to masculinity, how they're trying to take out fathers, you know, it's all kind of seems like really so the government has more control over us, you know?
Right. Yeah.
And that's that's even what I tell people that I know and minorities.
I say, hey, you know, don't, you know, think about just handouts or what, you know, don't try to don't allow a party to try to buy you out.
Unless you think that it's going to give you, you know, fully economical, you know, put yourself in an economical place where you feel comfortable, at least, you know.
But a lot of times these things enable us, like I said, with the welfare system.
I feel like that enables a lot of people and that's something that breaks down the family, right?
Now, when they push these things, it's almost like, okay, I understand somebody being on welfare for maybe a year, maybe two.
Okay. You know, unexpected things happen in life.
You don't have a man in your own.
I get it. But a lot of these things sometimes makes the woman say, hey, well, I don't need a man because I have the option.
And if I don't like you, then here's my other option and I'm fine.
And so it makes the woman push the man away as well.
So you got to look at both sides of the spectrum.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like with the welfare situation, I remember interviewing somebody and they're talking about how like in the 1950s, before the welfare system came in place, there was actually more black families staying together compared to white families.
It seems like a calamity of things, right?
It's like that system kicks in in the 60s.
All these kind of divorce laws, all that kind of stuff start coming, you know, getting really heavy in the 70s and 80s.
The 90s, you have the private prisons.
We're talking about how music changed, the essence of music changed.
All of it. All of it. You know, kind of 60s free love, but in the hip-hop war, free love is the wrong term.
But like, you know, just kind of peace and love kind of vibe.
And then all of a sudden it's like gangster rap around the same time the private prisons go up.
And then you have a generation of, you know, black men that are like, you know, a lot of them are put in jail over these three.
And then three strike laws.
That's the other thing, you know? Yeah, they got all these things.
How could you look at that and just be like, you know, I mean, it's just so much coincidence that all the, and then, you know, we talked about the attacks on the, you know, the white families with the opiate epidemic in the 90s and 2000s, and I don't know, how could you just look at all those things and kind of, like, it just seems like we're all under attack, kind of, you know, our family.
Right, I mean, we are. These things affect all Americans, you know?
It affects all Americans, and, and, Of course, most things affect poor communities first.
It's always going to affect the poor communities first.
No matter what ethnic background you are, it's going to affect the poor communities first.
I think that's the biggest thing.
And I remember, like you said, back in the day, even lower income communities were safe.
Nowadays, it's not like that.
Like I said, after the Gangsta Rap came out and then after You know, all these other things that have happened, like you said, between the 70s and 80s and the crack epidemic and all these different things.
When these things happen, things start going downhill real quick.
Yeah. I mean, when you're talking to people and, you know, you have such a balanced point of view when it comes to the issues we face today, how we're middle class, what, you know, kind of all families are under attack.
How do people take in this message?
I mean, have you had people lashing out at you and saying that you're crazy or whatever?
Or, I mean, do most people kind of support them?
What part do you mean?
I'm crazy about what part.
I mean, when you're out there talking about conservative values and families and how the Democrats don't support that, are you ever getting attacked over those?
Yeah, I mean, I get some detractors, man.
The thing about it is they have some people online that just like to troll them.
So I don't feel like I'm getting attacked by just random.
Sometimes they're just random, and I just block them, delete them.
Because at the end of the day, for me, I'm more about enlightening people about the other side, okay?
And it's not about forcing people to vote this way or that way.
It's about enlightening so you can make a clear decision on what you want to vote for based off of your values.
And so the people that come to my page, not in real life, I have had debates in real life with, you know, friends, family, doesn't matter.
You know, I've had debates, of course.
But, you know, online, it's just a lot of trolls, man.
These guys don't have any followers.
They just come to your page and want to say something ignorant and want to just try to down you and stuff like that.
They call you names. And, you know, I just like, OK, if you want to come to my page and have respect, respectable discourse and try to get an understanding from both sides and both angles and see what it is.
That's understandable.
That's what adults do. These are grown men that come to my page.
50, 60 years old and just calling names and just trying to down somebody.
Wow. 99% of them are my complexion, you know, unfortunately.
What are the kind of things that they say about you?
I mean, what are the words?
Oh, man, they could just be hateful stuff.
I mean, they use the word, you know, the raccoon word, you know, stuff like that or whatever the case is.
Because you're embracing conservative values, so it's kind of like...
Yeah, I mean... The thing about it is a lot of people in my communities, we look at conservatism as they look at conservatism as if it's just a racist or something like that.
You know what I mean? And I'm like, hey, how can you look at Republicans as just being racist, not saying that racist could exist somewhere in administration on both sides, I'm sure.
But, you know, in the same token, you know, how can you call Republicans racist when you vote for Joe Biden?
You know, the things that he did in 99 crime deal.
I mean, he he said, you ain't black unless you vote for me.
Like, you know, he compared black kids to roaches.
I mean, he's done a lot of different things that were a lot of people can look at and say, well, that's racist or whatever the case is.
But because he is a Democrat, you know, they still decide to vote for him.
And because they think, well, you know, a lot of them are trying to say, hey, well, the KKK is It votes for your party and this isn't bad or whatever.
And I'm like, well, that's how I seen the KKK, man.
Vote for your values. Okay.
You know, the KKK is not what's killing us right now.
You know, I don't I don't fear those.
You know, those are hate groups.
And so I don't like hate in general.
You know, I don't like hate where it comes from because I'm all about love and peace.
And harmony with the people, but any hate group I don't deal with.
So for them to just think that one side has hate on it, and both sides have hate on it, to a certain degree, but you need to be able to vote for your values, vote for your Christian values, vote for things.
Vote out this mess that they're putting out here to America, that's destroying America right now.
And I haven't even got to the economical side.
I'm just talking about just the ideology, how it breaks the family unit down and destroys America.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, in the area that you live, have you noticed the attack, that kind of like ultra extreme left wing ideology attack on the schools or anywhere nearby you?
My daughter is homeschooled.
Now, I did see some things in a book, which was on my page, where they were enforcing the LGBTQ and feminism.
So, I have...
For me, I go where I need to go, and that's it.
I don't hang around too many places like that, because I'm a family man.
But in the same token, Have I seen it like that?
Not as much unless you speak about it, but I know teachers, and they said that these kids all have their own pronouns now.
And so I have cousins that are teachers in D.C. They said, hey, these kids have their own pronouns now.
And I'm like, wow.
So these are the kids deciding to have their own pronouns?
I mean, this is what the school is enforcing, and the teachers can't do anything about it.
Wow. Wow.
Crazy. It's like you wonder where all this stuff is coming from.
You know, it's just like the teachers oftentimes are not into it.
The parents aren't into it for the most part.
But yet it seems to be kind of happening.
It seems to be part of a greater agenda.
It is. I mean, as long as the 20% of the population is screaming loud and everybody else and these woke corporations have their back, they can make a really big dent in society.
I'm not sure why they're allowing this to happen unless they just want to destroy society because they're wise enough to understand that the things that y'all are doing are going to destroy this nation and they're still doing it.
So I'm guessing that their job right now is to slowly but surely destroy the nation.
And I would feel before 2030, you know, for some reason, that's just a big year from the things I've been looking at.
I look at some conspiracy stuff sometimes.
Yeah, a lot of them.
Yeah, a lot of them. 2030, right? Right, exactly.
Right. That's not a conspiracy, by the way.
Somebody actually showed me how it's actually part...
I mean, it's all documented with the United Nations.
I mean, that's their agenda.
Many countries signed off on it.
I think the whole thing started in 94 with their first depopulation agenda, you know?
Right. Yeah, I mean, the stuff with the Guidestones and everything to where they're switching everything right now, you just can't help but be, you know, like, hey, you know, this stuff is real.
It's happening. No.
Right now. But it's like, what do we do to stop it?
If my voice is loud enough, that's good enough.
So your audience, I'm curious, how's the male-female split in the folks listening to you?
I'll be honest with you, it's a lot of females.
But it's also a lot of males as well.
To be honest with you, far as in my comments, I can't say we're just the likes because I get so many likes, I haven't even really looked with that.
But far as in the comments, if you look at my comments, a lot of it is, of course, males are more into politics and more female, but I'm actually surprised that I get a lot of females that are really into politics, understand what I'm talking about and agree with me.
Wow. I'm curious, what are some of the things they say in their comments?
They're not willing to debate with people.
They'll put an emoji.
They'll say, right on, keep up the good fight.
They'll send me messages in my DM. The men, they'll do the same thing, but they're willing to debate with other people or say what they dislike or do like about whatever I'm talking about.
Or they'll just elaborate on what I'm saying.
So, I mean, but yeah, I mean, it's a lot of people that are waking up.
Not woke, but awake.
Really, really. Wow.
And I'm curious, is there a lot of Black folks that are kind of like, you see them changing and kind of realizing, you know, what this global agenda is right now?
I mean, you know, there is a lot of more black conservatives start coming in.
So these people, I'm guessing they were already conservative and start coming in.
And because when I did first start my page, it was 98 percent, you know, Caucasian.
And so, but as I kept going on and started speaking about, you know, how liberalism is affecting, you know, minority issues and how it's breaking down our families and how it's, you know, once I started getting into that, I've seen a lot of other black conservatives really, you know, coming out and commenting and supporting me and stuff like that as well.
Because they know I'm coming from a good place, you know, because a lot of a lot of people think that even black conservatives are, you know, they look at it like, oh, you're a house Negro, you know, like the slavery times, or you're just taking up for old master or something, you know, that's how they looking at it.
And I'm like, come on, man. You know, I'm trying to I'm trying to help, you know, not just minorities, but I'm trying to help Everybody save themselves from these disastrous policies that's ruining our nation.
That's what I'm telling everybody.
And this is not just for black people or any type of demographic or minority.
This is something that's ruining our nation.
But just because you're a conservative saying it, they think that...
And I don't understand that process.
I think people have to open up their mindset.
That's the thing we often discuss.
How do you bring more bees to the honey?
Especially when people are indoctrinated with certain kind of beliefs.
Also, they might not come from the same kind of family background.
I remember reading from your bio, your parents are still together and stuff, which is amazing.
You rarely hear that nowadays.
Maybe that I don't know.
My parents have been married for 48 years.
I was born on their 10th anniversary.
Really? Wow. Yeah.
So I was a second child.
I was born on their 10th anniversary.
So yeah, they've been married for 48 years now.
And it's a beautiful blessing, man.
They still travel everything.
They still go places. My mother still runs a business.
And yeah, I mean, it's a beautiful thing.
And growing up that way and seeing how other people grow up and I see their problems.
I'm like, you know, growing up, I thought everybody had a mother and father, you know, because I did.
I grew up in a community where mothers and fathers were in that community.
And, you know, I thought everybody had their mother and father.
And once I seen the destruction and how not having a father in the home affected people, you know, how even a woman not having a man can affect a woman, you know, just being out here trying to survive on her own and take care of children.
I'm like, hey, I understood the dichotomy between a two-parent household and a single-parent household.
And some people still do essentially well as single parents, but like they say, it takes a village, you know?
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I mean, the Denzel Washington, sometimes when, you know, kids don't have dads around, the streets become the dad.
And that's always, like, not a good thing.
And I don't know, I just wish people would see that some of these, you know, it's not a Democrat-Republican thing.
It's just the wanting society to thrive and be healthier.
And it seems as though, I mean, there's a lot of great single moms out there, brilliant people have, you know, come forth.
From a single mother home, same thing with a single father home, but it seems to work a lot better on, if you were to take the average, it seems like the average success of like a dual parent household seems to far surpass, you know, the average of what happened to the single parent household, you know?
Well, 80% of, you know, all jail inmates are raised by single homes.
Yeah, yeah. 80%.
You know, it's most of the population in there.
So we have to think about those type of things.
You know, I'm going to tell you something funny, controversial maybe, but funny.
There was a motivational speaker I saw about a year ago and he was talking about how he does like jail ministry or prison ministry.
And he was talking about the what you rarely see is Jewish inmates because and you research why and he was saying because a lot of the time the Jewish families stay together and so there's you know the whenever there's the single mother single father thing that's when you tend to see you know a large portion of the prison population that is from those kind of families you know Right.
Absolutely. Absolutely. You see a lot of those different things is going on right now.
And, you know, for me, it's about enlightening everybody.
What's going on out here and destroying our families and things like that.
We can't, you know, I even tell, you know, minorities, we can't just, you can't just sit here and talk about white supremacy all day.
But, you know, these things have to happen for our communities to be better in general.
You know, I'm letting people know that.
What do we do with something?
I mean, I'm curious. Like, you know, let's say we had the power, right?
Like, what do we do with somewhere like a Chicago?
You alright? Yeah, I just need to plug something in.
I'm sorry. Oh, no worries.
Like, what do we do with something?
Thank you. No worries, no worries.
What do we do with somewhere like a Chicago where it just seems like society's kind of falling apart, you know, the the definitely not having, you know, kind of having a lot of homes without dads is leading to all that.
I mean, is there a way to fix that sort of thing after that, after some of these mistakes have already happened?
Oh, man, I think it's going to take multiple generations to fix it, at least two.
And it's going to take a lot of hard It's going to take a lot of hard things to happen.
I think there's going to have to be these really bad communities where people are killing each other.
It's going to take a real big presence for one of the police officers to be in that community.
And anybody has a sense of mental health.
I think that they should be able to You know, maybe there should be some government aid for mental health, man, because a lot of people, they have mental health issues.
It could have came from trauma, you know, them hating the world.
Anybody's dealing with these issues, let's attack that early.
There should be some type of rehabilitation or something that can go on when we know somebody's mind is not right.
Like right now, somebody could be, their mind is crazy, right?
And nobody just runs crazy until they go shoot up a scoop.
Yeah. You know, it's like, okay, well, y'all knew that this person was crazy.
You knew he wasn't taking his meds.
And these people could be, you know, and I don't want to call them crazy, but I'm just saying mental health issue.
Let me not call people crazy, right?
That's how it used to be. But, you know, if you know somebody's dealing with mental health issues and they're not taking their medicine or they haven't been diagnosed with anything, right?
Then that person needs to be able to seek help and an easy way to seek help.
And there should be insurances or something that's helping those people to keep people safe and rehabilitation.
A lot of drugs. At first, I think the first thing is, too, is getting the drugs out of our communities.
How do how do we get the drugs out?
You know, and it's going to take a big police presence to make that happen.
It's going to take mental health.
Facilities in those towns.
It's going to take the communities trying to come back together.
But it's going to be hard when it comes to multiple generations because the man and the woman have to stay together.
I think it's going to be the hardest thing to put back together is getting the families back together.
So we can probably get rid of some of this crime.
How do we get the families back together?
I think that's going to take multiple generations because of the thought processes.
I mean, from your own relationship and from watching your parents' relationship, I mean, what have you learned in terms of how do you keep the family together?
I think being a rational person mostly is as simple as that, you know, because every relationship has issues, every relationship has problems.
How about we come to our how about we apologize in our relationships when we say something wrong?
How about we Understand the overall goal is not just happiness at all times, but it's about building a legacy.
And so it's about marrying the woman that you choose, have children with her after you marry her, and have an overall goal of a legacy, not just, okay, I'm being reckless, I'm just having children.
And make it mean something.
You know, my last name for me means something.
So I couldn't just give my C to any woman out here.
You know, so people have to value themselves and their name and who they are first to not allow themselves to just be reckless.
But, you know, without strong parents in the household to instill these values with these children, They will go astray.
That's what's going to happen.
They're going to go astray without them having a certain amount of discipline before they get into the real world.
A lot of these kids are not having a certain amount of discipline.
They're raised by single mothers and their mother is always at work trying to pay the bills.
They don't get a certain amount of discipline, especially the same type of discipline a father can give.
I mean, what you just talked about, it was all about discipline.
It's all about restraint.
It's basically the opposite of Instagram culture, like literally the exact opposite.
How do you convince? You know, it's almost like looking at what TikTok culture is in China.
That's what you're describing. You're describing kind of deeper pursuits, intellectual pursuits and and that sort of thing.
But you look at our TikTok over here and it's like it's like a brothel, more or less.
How do you raise people to that Higher level, you know, that level of discipline when they didn't have it at home.
I mean, that's the challenge, right?
You have to make these things look cool because young kids, young folk, it's usually the young people that make all the dumb mistakes in society.
So they want to follow what's trending, what's cool at the moment.
The problem is it was no longer to be, it was no longer cool to You know, get married and have children, you know.
It was cool to do whatever you wanted to do.
You know, it was cool to have a whole lot of women, you know, just one.
It was cool to, you know, they even make it cool to do drugs, certain type of drugs, you know.
At first it was just weed, then it went to all these other things that's in the music like Molly and Percocets and You know, all just different things now, you know.
So they make these things look cool.
And so when it comes to the younger generation, we have to make family values stick together, things like that, building two wealthy families coming together, building more wealth.
We have to make that look cool again.
Right now, it's not Everything now that's cool is against family.
Yeah. I mean, this is our best opportunity because the cool drivers, the people deciding what is cool, have always pushed things that are of lower frequencies, right?
Just like that example where you have, like, the Public Enemies, and you have the De La Soles, and then all of a sudden you have, like, two decades of gangster rap, right?
Different frequency, much lower frequency, you know?
And, like, shit like, you know, I mean, I like Dr.
Dre, but, like, bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.
That's a song, right?
Right, right. And it's just funny listening to these guys go all woke now 30 years ago and I'm like, you know, just fuck her.
You're the guy that wrote that song.
Right, right. But, you know, that's the thing.
It's like the people that have been driving what pop culture is who benefit from bad things, negative energies, negative frequencies.
Those people are on the ropes a little bit now because it seems like all our networks, the way of doing things has kind of been...
Struggling because people are just not appreciating the message anymore and folks like you are building following.
So it's like, it's almost like this is the perfect time to win over some of those people and become really what the, you know, arbiter of cool is.
The people that kind of, you know, put out the cool message that, you know, the youth come to as opposed to what the mainstream media has always done, like advertise boys and more or less, you know?
Right. Absolutely. Yeah, we have to make those things cool again and get the government out of our pockets and get the government out of our families because when the government steps in, they screw everything up.
Exactly. And they should only be offering any things that we ask for that we say is going to because it's our tax dollars.
So If we the people didn't ask for something to be put back into our economy that's going to benefit us economically, and us as a people didn't ask for it, then why are you guys pushing this?
They push what they want to push, and they try to manipulate people with the media, but the people are not asking for this.
Why are y'all pushing it?
You know what I'm saying? I think that's the biggest issue.
They're forcing their own agenda.
On the people. I think that's one of the biggest issues right now.
And a lot of people, they know.
When you talk about a lot of people, a lot of people will be influenced very easily.
And they know that. They know that.
Yeah. The biggest thing people got to understand is the mainstream media is never your friend.
I think when we were talking earlier, I brought up the Muhammad Ali example where, you know, back in the day when he was not wanting to go to the Vietnam War, which, you know, when you look at it from today, that was obviously the righteous path that he took, right? Right, right. They went after him so much.
And then you look at how he was, you know, in the 90s, you know, before he passed away.
And they're talking about the same dude, like the guy's like literally a godly creature and like an icon and this and that.
And I don't think people realize what an effect that makes, you know, like literally they were sending out messages that if you're, you know, a white person with an inkling of racism in you, you You'd look at that and you'd be like, oh, that black man is refusing to go to Vietnam.
So unpatriotic, traitor.
That's the kind of stuff they were creating, even though his position was, yeah, the correct position.
Why go kill some Asian people on behalf of a military-industrial complex?
Even in a retrospective, it's not like that stopped communism.
You know what I mean? You know, it's just funny the way things work and how media influences so much.
And then, you know, you have guys like you building an audience trying to, you know, it's like it's a David and Goliath story, however way you look at it, you know?
Right, absolutely. Yeah, that's what's going on right now.
Like you mentioned communism. I mean, right now, you know, socialism usually turns into communism.
I mean, that's what they're doing right now.
They're forcing socialism on us.
And if you haven't thought about it, Biden just signed...
Some type of bill, whatever the case is, that if you have over a 680 credit score that you will get a higher mortgage rate, or let's say you won't get a discount.
Basically, the people that have lower income or a lower credit score, they get a discount on their mortgage.
You know, the crazy thing is these guys that are supposed to be all about like equality and not being prejudiced and all that stuff, they don't realize how prejudiced that is.
You know, quick little example.
Somebody was telling me how feminism, just the idea of having feminism, you're already, because you really got two choices there, like you man, woman, right?
And when you're pushing for something, in the nature of pushing for something, you are taken away from something else.
So you're discriminating against this thing.
It's like racism.
Feminism is no different than racism, if you look at it, because by saying this is good, you're basically saying this is less good, which means this is bad.
It's just interesting that Joe Biden, President of the United States, doesn't realize that discriminating against people because of good credit scores is wrong.
They kind of It's just so crazy.
People work hard for those credit scores.
Yeah! But wouldn't it hurt the banks?
Because they're incentivizing Bad credit.
They're incentivizing people, you know, to not have good credit if they want to get a discount on their mortgage.
So 680 is the threshold, right?
Right. So it's like, I'm going to purposely not make a couple of credit card payments so I can get right under their mortgage.
Exactly. It's so insane, man.
It's like, what is it in when they do that?
What is it in? Are they going to start doing that with credit cards now?
Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy. They gonna start doing that with loans?
How many defaults would there be?
And I'm not saying that anybody under 680 would have a default, you know what I mean?
But still, it's still incentivizing not to reach for the stars.
It's not to have a 700, 800 credit score.
You're saying, hey, you know what?
Don't go past 650 if you want to have a decent credit score and, you know, not have to pay extra.
Yeah. The level of stupidity and, like, not peeling the layers of the onion, I mean, it's really at an epidemic proportion, because it's like, on the surface, yes, if you have, like, you know, 0.3 seconds to think about that idea, it might seem like a good idea, but, like, think about it for four seconds, and you're like, that's a pretty shitty idea.
Right. It doesn't make any sense.
I just did a post on that earlier.
It's like, what are we living in?
Peter Pan land? Like, what's going on here, man?
Yeah. When did this happen?
Why are they flipping everything upside down?
And they have to be trying to destroy the system.
There's no way of not destroying the system by tearing everything down that built it.
Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, without a doubt, without a doubt, that's what's happening.
And that's that that's why it's so important that we have these conversations and really flip some of these people that are like on this crazy extreme left trip, which is literally suicide.
You know, I mean, I did an interview.
I think I might have been telling you about this with a lawyer talking about how, you know, we're talking about the jabs, like whoever took that jab is essentially not considered homo sapien anymore.
Right. Which which really It's what?
Is it a DNA change?
Because it's a DNA change, and there's a legal precedent.
That's a crazy thing. If you watch the episode right before this, this is episode 82, that was episode 81.
And, you know, this guy's an international lawyer.
I mean, you know, he knows his stuff.
He's like, basically, once they change your DNA, and there's legal precedent that you are no longer homo sapien, you know, homo sapiens are the only ones with legal rights.
Once you're something else, you are literally, you have no rights.
Right. Whatsoever. Right.
And, you know, people are kind of unaware of this, you know, unaware that this is the sort of thing that's happening.
And it doesn't divide by, like, Republican, Democrat, Black, White, Asian.
I mean, it's pretty much you lost all your rights on a legal level, according to the legal precedent that's out there.
Right. Man, we either live in a revelation or something is going on because a lot of changes happen.
Not on an economical base, on a spiritual base.
On just a whole morality base.
Everything is changing, you know?
I mean, my last question to you, and I'd like to give you an opportunity to, in closing, if there's anything we've missed, but is your spirituality, your religion, how much of an effect has it had on how you think and Part two of that question is, I mean, we're talking about Revelations, Armageddon, and that sort of thing.
I mean, where do you think we are?
I mean, what do you see in terms of what you've learned through your Christianity and what that says about the times we're living through?
I mean, listen, I can't say I'm the most religious person in the world.
I just know that, you know, Jesus Christ is my Savior.
And when I, you know, when I know about Revelation and everything that's happening right now, They talked about the mark of the beast, all these different things.
The energy is shifting.
They talked about the birth pains.
And birth pains is like of tragedy after tragedy after tragedy.
You know, they've all tragedies always happen, but they say that when Jesus is coming back, it will be more like birth pains, you know, where the closer it is to her birth date.
I mean, the date that she has to To see her child, I mean, have her child, that her birth pains will be more back to back.
And that's what's happening. It's been tragedy after tragedy.
It's been this and that.
It's been so much happening all at once that you can't deny that we are not living in a revelation.
And when I say revelation, it could be the revelation of the Bible, but it could also be just a revelation in general because we are at a revelation because we're at a point in time of a dramatic change.
So you don't have to be a religious person to see that, for me personally.
But if you're a religious person, you can feel it spiritually that the world isn't the same.
That there's a lot more bad being perpetuated than the good.
So usually, you know, when they say the end of the world, it's going to seem like the bad is winning over the good.
And that's when Jesus comes back.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean...
Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.
No. So, you know, do you...
Do you feel as though this is like, I mean, it feels like there's a march towards tyranny, right?
It feels like that's the agenda of the global elites.
They want us all to be like, you know, they're serfs.
And frankly, I think they want most of us dead.
I mean, we talked about this actually on your podcast, which, by the way, we should talk about your podcast before we're done because we didn't talk about that much.
When I was a guest on your podcast, we were talking about how, you know, what their agendas are.
And really, it seems like when you look at the, you know, the jab deaths and all that stuff, and the fact that they're pushing this so hard, and you look at the Georgia Guidestones and things like Bill Gates saying like, hey, vaccines are going to solve, you know, the world's population problem, which if you really analyze that sentence, if there's a population problems and vaccines are going to solve it, that means vaccines are killing people, right?
Right. I mean, there's all this talk that they pretty much said that they want to depopulate most of this planet, right?
I mean, is that, like, there's this march towards tyranny.
Is there a way, do you think, to beat this march towards tyranny when these powers are really so powerful?
I mean, they are the most rich people on the planet that are pushing this agenda against guys like you and I and, you know, our scrappy little army of truthers here.
I mean, you actually win this fight.
I mean, to be honest with you, I don't think there's nothing we can do, to be honest with you, but wake as many people up as we can possible.
The powers that be, and even Abijah talks about that, the powers that be, I mean, You know, those are the people that we need to worry about, you know, and what they're influenced by.
If you think about everything that's being pushed out here in the media right now, it's a bunch of demonic stuff, you know?
Yeah. I mean, you see Lil Nas X, you see Sam Smith, you know?
Sam Smith, I mean, his last thing, I mean, the guy, literally, it's like walking out, like dressed as a transverse, like devil.
I mean, okay. And it's playing out there, and it's really mocking the Christian religion.
So even if you're not a Christian, you got to be able to see, okay, why is these things happening?
Because they're mocking the Christian religion, and everything that they're pushing right now is against the Christian religion.
So it's like, why are they mocking the Christian religion?
And also, the Euphrates River has dried up.
They mentioned that in the Bible.
When it's close to time, the Euphrates River would dry up.
The Euphrates River just dried up.
And they talked about, from the east, there would be a 200 million man army.
Well, according to back then, there wasn't even 200 million people on the planet.
So, them mentioning a 200 million man army, well, hey, guess what?
China has that. China, yeah.
When you see all these different things, you start connecting the pieces of the puzzle together.
You got to be like, what's wrong?
Let me get my life right with God.
Or if you're not a Christian, get your life right with God in general, the Almighty, whoever you worship.
Because do you understand that if you believe you have a savior, then This is the time for you to start calling on, because everything they're pushing, like you said, is low vibrational.
It's just bad energy.
And they're pushing it, not just on the average person, they're pushing this on our youth, everything, every aspect.
You can't even escape it.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Without it being some big crazy war, bad and good, I don't think that nothing would change.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gonna come to my head, I believe that.
It's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna, you know, and I mean, we're, I know we're living the most exciting times in history, that's for sure.
I don't think it's gonna be a smooth ride by any means.
But Ace, this has been really awesome.
Your podcast, let's quickly talk about your podcast a little bit.
Tell us a little bit about that.
All right. My page is until the tables turn podcast.
Okay. I'm still building on my YouTube and other platforms, but Instagram right now has got me super busy.
So it's until the tables, until the tables turn podcast.
And right now I do a lot of 30 second videos where I'm just calling out a hypocrisy that's going on, how things are hurting minority communities, how things are hurting America.
How things are hurting us economically.
You know, I do remixes of different things that people just need to understand and get to know, let people know that, hey, this time around vote the smart way because you see what direction we're going in.
I put it in different various ways and people are either attracted to my voice the way I'm saying it.
I put the subtitles on there.
And I'm reaching out to people.
I'm not just posting things.
I get in my comments.
I talk to people. I try to enlighten people.
I respond by the people in my DMs.
I jump on other people's platforms because I want to get the message out there.
It's not about me just trying to go somewhere with it.
That would be nice, but in the same token, everything is moving in the right direction because people are enjoying what I'm saying.
That message, as long as the message can reach as many people, wake as many people up, that's what I'm all about.
And like I said, I'm at like 43,000, 44,000 followers.
I've gained that in the last two months.
Wow, wow. Yeah, two months.
Really, like two months, I think.
You know, 40,000 in like two months, you know, I gained all those followers because I was on another page doing it.
And I got this page and I just want to start getting into politics, started talking about a little hypocrisy going on.
Wasn't scared to say what needs to be said.
And other people may be afraid of saying that they're wondering why celebrities are not saying, hey, because Nobody's holding a bag over my head saying, hey, you can't say this.
No, nobody's holding that bag over my head.
So I'm going to speak and say what needs to be said for people to wake up.
And it's been catching a lot of attention.
I have multiple posts with 75,000 to 100,000 likes on one post.
So people understand what I'm saying.
And these are not just African-Americans.
These are Hispanics.
These are white. These are Asian.
These are multiple people that understand where I'm coming from.
So, you know, people see what's going on and hopefully I'm waking up as many people as possible.
That's awesome, man. That's awesome.
I mean, we need voices like they're out, you know, like you talking about this stuff because, I mean, you know, we are going up against huge mainstream media apparatus.
You know, my wish is that, you know, people, you know, people could learn a lot from is if you find these old news tapes, right?
And you just watch the way the mainstream media has always brainwashed us.
Like, you know, we talk about, you know, racism, historic racism.
If you hear about how much of this stuff was actually coming right from the mainstream media, where they were, like, putting certain things in our head.
And then, you know, interesting, after 9-11, they put it in our heads, you know, be scared of Muslims, all this stuff.
Right, right. And they tried all this stuff all along.
yeah and that's a decade where we're supposed to like not like muslims but now you know 20 years later if you say something wrong against a muslim it's not part of their agenda anymore so now you're you know you're bad you're racist and stuff right it's so interesting where most of this comes from and not to say that there's not there's a you know there's people out there that have really sick and twisted ideas you know uh and i think in every culture in society you always have that 10-15 percent where you're you know you're kind of like what the hell are you guys thinking of but The mainstream media,
I mean, as far as it being in the mainstream, I mean, the mainstream media had a lot to do with it, if you look at what historically happened.
But people forget that. People forget that where this brainwashing is coming from.
And miraculous things could happen.
You turn off that television, you stop listening to their nonsense for a month.
Beyond it being extremely healthy for you, I think, because you're not getting all that mental pollution, toxic energy, fear, anxiety all the time.
The brainwashing turns off like this, because that's where it's coming from, you know?
Yeah, and people sit there and watch and believe every word.
Every word. For me, I can even sit in church and if the pastor says something I don't agree with, I'm like, I don't agree with it.
I'm not going to just say, that's what it is because he's a pastor.
He said it. I'm not going to believe the mainstream media and say, hey, you know, because they said it, it just must be true.
I like to dissect stuff myself.
I like to be You know, be able to look at things myself and say, hey, they pushing a narrative right here.
You know, or that was a lie.
Or they're not telling the full truth.
You know, a lie.
And so I see what's going on.
Once I say that, I'm like, come on, man.
You know, they talk about their code words and stuff, accusing the right or Republicans of having these racist code words, you know?
I'll tell you some of their code words, right?
You know, they say toxic masculinity, but you know what I think they're really talking about?
I think they're really talking about...
Guys like you and I that are not scared to speak our mind, we're the ones that they really want to shut up.
When they're talking about toxic, they're really talking about the alphas.
Those are the threat that, you know, maybe answer to a higher power that are not scared to speak their mind, educate people that, you know, don't want to go along with the agenda.
I mean, it's pretty obvious that the betas are there, you know, it's like if they could make the entire male sex a bunch of betas, I think that would be their promise land, you know?
Yeah, that's what it is.
They don't want people stepping up against what's really going on.
I think that they have the sexual stuff inside of the books and a lot of Muslim men stood up.
I'm not sure if you saw that online or not.
I love that dude. Honestly, I wish the Christian, I mean the Christian churches and stuff, there's been a very few reverends and ministers that have stood up to these radical mandates.
The Muslims, I mean, I give them credit.
I wish Christians were like that.
I wish Christians were like, I can't pray.
Us as Christians, I think we're a little too tolerant.
I think we're a little too tolerant in general.
I mean, for one, whatever they're doing is against your beliefs.
Not even being just your religious beliefs, but your beliefs in general.
Why are you still voting for this?
Why are you not standing up to this?
If you see this is destroying our nation, and the more beta males, like you said, you won't even hear anything about it.
Nobody will be speaking up about it.
These beta males will just be whispering behind closed doors together about it.
And that's it. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly, man.
Exactly. Ace, is there anything we didn't talk about that you want to mention in closing?
Websites, links, anything, you know?
Yeah, I have a website, www.untiletablesturnpodcast.com, and I will have new merch coming out.
And guess what? My wife, she makes the merch.
I also make some of the designs for the merch.
And so we will have coffee mugs, we will have t-shirts, we will have hats and everything.
And yeah, I just, you know, You know, people just support, you know, I'm just trying to get out the message and any message I can try to get out there is good.
But yeah, definitely. I appreciate you.
I'm always willing to be Talk about my views.
I'm not scared to express my views.
And yeah, I appreciate you allowing me to be on your platform, man.
I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you, man.
It's great. It's awesome having you on here.
I really enjoy, you know, this kind of dialogue.
And it was fun being on your podcast, too.
Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And people are going to love this podcast right here once I post it on my platform.
And yeah, it's going to be great.
You know, I hope everything works out for you as well, you know, when this is going on.
Bring me on again. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
We got to get more messages out to these people.
I know something else is going to come about that needs to be talked about, I'm sure.
For sure, for sure. We'd love to have you back on, man.
That'd be really awesome.
And we're hosting a bunch of roundtables, too, where we're getting, you know, kind of a variety of people, you know, from all parts of the country and stuff.
So we'd love to invite you for that as well when we're getting that up and running.
Absolutely. I would love to be there.
I would love to be there. Anytime, anytime.
Just let me know. I'm jumping on the plane.
Awesome, awesome. Thank you so much, Ace.
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