PANIC: FBI Releasing 'Eric Swalwell Files' EXPOSING Relationship with Chinese Spy
Matt Gates and Benny Johnson dissect the FBI's release of Eric Swalwell files alleging ties to Chinese spy Fang Fang, contrasting this transparency with Democratic obstructionism. The discussion pivots to Gates' claims of witnessing non-indigenous technology on classified radar footage where objects reconfigure after missile strikes, suggesting reverse-engineered alien plasma propulsion. While Gates calls for a congressional commission to protect whistleblowers and investigate missing scientists, the episode concludes by questioning whether current defense ecosystems are truly indigenous or compromised by extraterrestrial integration. [Automatically generated summary]
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The person actually read through literally everything.
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Like, that's it.
Like, we actually read the files.
And they like, if you don't like what it says, then maybe you need to check yourself.
And if you're the one saying and demanding that Trump release everything, which I think they have, I don't know.
ALX, will you check?
I think they're holding on to some Epstein files, but whatever.
Like, and I don't want them to.
And we've been demanding transparency the entire time.
And we've ripped through the files and we've done a billion headlines on them.
But you can't have it both ways.
They released Trump's tax returns.
They released the Epstein files.
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They thought they got Trump.
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He was a model.
The Democrats blacked their faces out.
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Yeah.
Now they're screaming that we're going to release the Swalwell files.
And the reason why they're screaming that is because Eric Swalwell allegedly is a traitor to our nation.
We'll get into all of that today.
We've been making a few phone calls here.
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Okay, Eric Swalwell banged a Chinese spy.
How do you know that, Benny?
You're such a right-wing.
You're such a, you're such a con.
You're such a Magatard.
Well, okay.
You like liberal media?
You like Axios?
Here we go.
Suspected Chinese spy targets California politicians.
This from Axios.
In the year 2020, this suspected Chinese spy's name's Fang Fang.
Fang Fang took a huge liking to Eric Swalwell.
You can read it in Weep Libs.
This is what the left-wing media has reported on and has confirmed.
That Swalwell loved himself, some Mugu guy Pan, and got deep in to the Panda Express here and went hard, okay, into the general sews.
And what did he get out of it?
Well, some big fat checks from the Communist Party of China.
Read the article.
They detail everything.
Fat checks donated from Fang Fang.
Fang Fang placed staff in Eric Swalwell's office.
Fang Feng was obsessed with Eric Swalwell's staff, or so he thought.
Eric Swalwell, rocking a solid, like probably a solid like three or you know.
And when you're an Eric, when you look like Eric Swalwell, when you rip ass on national television, which he did, by the way, I mean, I think like it's funny because you forget that these kind of things happened in real life.
And the complaint that I've heard from like, if you can't control your flatulence like that, and if you just look like you've been like a meat puppet, right.
And, you know, like you've been hit in the head with a meat tenderizer a couple times.
And like this hot Asian, like rich lady that's younger than you takes a huge liking to you.
It's a spy.
All right.
It's a spy.
If any, like if any, if the barista at Starbucks like writes my name with a little heart, then I'm like, it's a spy.
It's a spy.
Get away.
I got to get out of Starbucks.
I got to go.
Got to go.
You got to be smart, man.
This is the show that brought you Tim Burchett saying that like the deep state will put you naked in a hotel room and you'll wake up, booze, pills, naked women all around you.
And then your career is over, man.
Look what they did to Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham's walking around Disneyland with a bubble wand.
That's how compromised that guy is.
Be smart.
Like she's not in.
Okay, bro, she's not into you.
So stupid.
That's so funny.
It's for real.
Lindsey Graham literally won her.
The government shut down.
They can't pass the Save Act.
Lindsey Graham is now calling for literal World War III.
There's no number of people that he doesn't wish to have die, you know, in the sandpits of the Middle East.
And here he is, the perfect iconoclast photo of our leadership standing with a bubble wand at Disney.
He's a 70-year-old, single, unmarried, childless man wobbling around Disney with a bubble wand.
This is your American leadership class, ladies and gentlemen.
Eric Swalwell, perfect fit for this.
The reason why this is important is that he's running for governor of California.
And odds are he's going to be the Democrat nominee.
As far as I can see, and there's a lot of polls out there, he's like polling the best that there is for the Democrats in California.
It is an absolute cluster F. If Kamal Harris had run, I mean, it pains me to say so, but if Kamal Harris had run, then she would have gotten this.
Kamal Harris didn't run.
And so Eric Swalwell is now set to become the governor, or at the very least, the Democrat governor.
Thank you, Klein.
Man, you're killing it.
You're killing it today, dude.
He's just killing it today, bro.
But yeah, this is like, this is kind of stable.
Am I wrong, Klein?
This is like kind of stable.
These are like kind of the numbers.
Steve Hilton was on banging on about how he's got 20% now.
We love Steve.
We love Sheriff Bianco.
And Swalwell, you know, sort of like, sort of like dragging up a humiliating Democrat bench, but it's California, right?
I mean, here's what he, this is what the betting odds look like.
So it looks like Swalwell is going to get it.
So this is like a critically important question.
You know, when you have California that already has like plenty of Chinese in it and plenty of Chinese influence, when remember, Gavin Newsom cleaned up San Francisco, got rid of all the homeless people.
It was spotless.
Decline is a choice.
As soon as Xi Jinping, his real master, came to town.
California already has a problem with Chinese compromise.
It's obviously one of the closest states to China.
You know, it's on the seaboard, right?
Pacific seaboard.
And you're going to put a guy who's compromised by the Chinese Communist Party in charge of that state?
Hell no.
It's time for everybody to learn what there is to learn about Eric Swalwell.
Back to the left-wing media article.
Here's the Axios article.
It details in a demonstrable and empirical fashion how Eric Swalwell was totally and completely compromised by this Chinese spy, how she placed staff inside of his office.
So she placed spies in his congressional office.
You know, there's classified material there.
There's classified information.
They were effectively using him as a cutout.
And then when she was made a mark, when they found out that she was doing an influence operation here, and by the way, she was banging a bunch of other politicians.
It wasn't just Swalwell.
Swalwell was eskimoing it with like a ton of other sloppy Democrat politicians from all over the country.
She was getting around, right?
The FBI put a mark on her, brought in Swalwell, said, yo, this is a Chinese spy.
Well, allegedly, according to our friend, Sean Davis, Swalwell helped her escape.
You know, it's a funny little thing that we've been noticing, and don't pretend to be, high IQ, okay?
We didn't go to the Ivy Leagues.
We barely got into state college, right?
I went to community college.
I was raised in a soybean field, in Cornfield in Iowa.
Hog Farms was where I got most of my learning.
And so, again, I'm never going to like pull some type of card on you that I'm extremely surprised.
But we got pattern recognition now.
It's the one thing that like people from the real world get, like people from the, you know, I want to know why conspiracy theorists are like, why they're so popular among normies, among normal, among us, like the normal people that like sit there and talk at diners and like gas stations is because like we're good at pattern recognition.
We can actually see this again and again.
It's rerun.
This is a rerun.
What's a rerun?
It's a rerun.
You know, it's kind of amazing that the Chinese national that voted illegally in this country was also able to be exfiltrated, even though we had confiscated his passport and his visa.
They were still able to get him out of the country.
The Chinese were able to extract their op.
And that's exactly what happened with Feng Feng.
Feng Feng fled.
But how did Feng Feng know about this?
Many people say that it was Eric Swalwell, who may well have tipped her off.
Oh, baby.
Okay, let's talk real fast about what could possibly be, well, happening here.
Who knows what's inside of this FBI file?
It's been locked and sealed and, you know, put into the darkest bowels and basement of the FBI.
There are a few people who've been briefed on this.
Kevin McCarthy is one of them.
Now, I'm playing a dangerous game here because I want to bring on Matt Gates here in just a moment.
And him and Kevin McCarthy don't quite get along.
But Kevin McCarthy is from California.
Kevin McCarthy was Speaker of the House.
And Kevin McCarthy was briefed on Matt Gates and what was actually inside of that file.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin McCarthy said something really remarkable.
Most people don't remember it.
Where he told the press in a fit of peak about what was actually inside of that file with Eric Swalwell.
And if you want to talk about Swalwell, let's talk about Swalwell.
Because you have not had the briefing that I had.
I had the briefing and Nancy Pelosi had the briefing from the FBI.
The FBI never came before this Congress to tell the leadership of this Congress that Eric Swalwell had a problem with a Chinese spy until he served on Intel.
So it wasn't just us who were concerned about.
The FBI was concerned about putting a member of Congress on the Intel Committee that has the rights to see things that others don't because of his knowledge and relationship with the Chinese spy.
Ladies and gentlemen, things have gotten bad for the Democrat Party.
If they are able to kneecap Swalwell here, then you're almost definitely going to get a Republican governor from California.
He's going to be amazing.
The people who worked with Eric Swalwell, who know Eric Swalwell, have been shouting this from the rooftops.
You know, Kevin McCarthy, they're like quite furious that Eric Swalwell is serving on the Intel Committee when he's been compromised by China, when he may well have actually helped the Chinese spy escape.
Is that what they're going to show?
Are they going to show traitor treasonous activity?
Policies are so pathetic and have done so poorly that the left has nothing else to do but troll the internet looking for ways to get offended and then try to target members and strip them of their committees.
This is a dumb waste of the house's time.
But since the speaker has designated the floor to discuss members' inappropriate actions, shall we?
The Jihad Squad member from Minnesota has paid her husband and not her brother husband, the other one, over a million dollars in campaign funds.
This member is allowed on the Foreign Affairs Committee while praising terrorists.
A Democrat chairwoman incited further violence in the streets outside of a courthouse.
And then the cherry on top, my colleague and three-month presidential candidate from California, who is on the intelligence committee, slept with Feng Feng, a Chinese spy.
Let me say that again.
A member of Congress who receives classified timings was sleeping with the enemy.
He's suing the FBI over them allegedly releasing this information.
You know, it's amazing.
This is the same guy who's been going down to the well of the house, banging his fists on the table, crying, screaming, rending his garments, saying, release.
Release them.
Okay, fine.
Do release them.
But you can't have it both ways, brah.
Can't have it both ways, Brovsky.
Eric Swalwell has issued a cease and desist letter.
He wants to sue the FBI.
Oh, my!
Over Kash Patel threats to release the investigative files about a suspected Chinese spy who infiltrates his office.
In the letter, Swalwell, who is considered the Democrat frontrunner in the race for California governor, demanded the FBI agree within three days not to release the files.
And that by doing so may result in legal action, according to the Washington Post.
Swalwell held a press conference on Monday insisting the case is closed and accused Patel of being a temporary employee, engaged in horrendous abuse of power and digging up the investigation files about him and the Fang Fang bang bang.
Suspected Chinese Communist Party asset who cultivated ties with Eric Swalwell.
Fang Fang, also known as Fang Fang, was a student at the California State University East Bay who began schmoozing Swalwell at events.
Axios reported that she was shoving donations and maybe other things into and out of his office.
Trump officials ordered the FBI to compile records of the decades-old investigation Swalwell's ties to Fang Fang and reportedly left the U.S. in 2015 after warming her way into Swalwell's orbit and carrying a romantic sexual relationship on with two Midwestern mayors.
So the attorneys said that it was a smear attempt to undermine his governor's run.
I am more triggered by your deeply unfair treatment of Eric Swalwell.
I think you missed some real context in this story, Benny.
Eric Swalwell was not a member of Congress when he met Fang Fang.
He was on the Dublin City Council.
So when you're in Congress, you get defensive briefings.
They tell you at orientation, if some chick way out of your league starts smiling at you and offering what you would never otherwise be offered, then you maybe need to have your guard up.
But when you're on the freaking Dublin City Council, you're supposed to be looking for a Chinese spy showing up offering booty and cash.
Like when I was in the Florida legislature, if some smoking hot chick had shown up offering to like hang out with me and give me money, I probably would have indulged that.
I probably would not have had like the ability to be like, no, Fang Fang, stay away with all of your hotness and money while I sit here with the grave secrets of which potholes get filled in the city of Dublin.
So I give a little grace to Swalwell on the Fang Fang thing more than most.
You and I are both people who've been investigated by and cleared by the Biden Justice Department.
Pretty rare to have that type of a discussion with someone.
Is the new frontiers of accountability that we're supposed to stand for going and finding old investigative files and releasing them where people have no due process?
Like, is that what we're for now?
Because let me walk you through what that looks like.
Okay.
You and I get investigated again by like President AOC or absolutely going to happen, by the way.
And then, of course, because we don't commit crimes, they won't charge us with any crimes.
But then later, they'll be like, oh, well, we're going to release that, you know, Matt Gates is a predator or Benny Johnson is a Russian agent.
And you and I don't get to confront witnesses.
We don't get to put on evidence.
But just with the emper mater of a government release, have the opportunity to smear people.
Call me old-fashioned, but I actually believe in the portions of the Fifth Amendment that say you get to confront your accuser.
And only by preserving those things do we ever get the vindication that you and I have been able to enjoy when actually cleared by not doing stuff.
And so I am not part of this like newfangled Republican effort that says that the way to deal with accountability is some bitch ass release of evidence that never resulted in a charge.
I mean, the reason that I wanted you on the show, because I wanted to talk about UFOs, because it's like, there does seem to be so much evidence that is withheld.
And I know that there are members of Congress that constantly come on and tell me that this would change the world, quite frankly, if we knew what they knew.
And so it gets to a boiling point, I guess, Matt, right?
Like it gets to a boiling point where it does seem like there's different rules and that these are the games that are constantly played against the right.
These are games that are constantly played against Trump.
These are games that are constantly played with the Epstein files, which completely exonerate, which completely exonerate, you know, like exonerates Trump.
Like, if they had never charged Trump with a crime, it would have been a harder path for us, actually.
But the fact that they went there, right?
But so why not to expose how corrupt they were.
So I don't think again, I wanted all the evidence released, but yes, but if there's nothing there, I am of the view that the due process matters.
So it is different when you're talking about government information that the government keeps because they believe that their processing skills are superior than whether or not you're talking about whether people have committed crimes.
Now, on the UFO issue, I do believe that we have a dogged group like Burleson and Luna and Burchett who are on this stuff and who do know where the information is that we've got to get released.
And the leadership has to give them subpoena power, and they have to get subpoena power to be able to get evidence in a secure compartmentalized information facility and then work to get it declassified.
I think the most important information will be the biologics that are not human that have been discovered.
And like even some of the briefings that aren't classified just need to be out in the public.
I mean, I had someone come and brief me who was in a military uniform, work for the United States Army, that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication.
An actual uniformed member of the United States Army briefed me on that.
Everybody writes it up and everybody has a take on it.
So few people have actually been uniquely interested in it and have actually done due diligence.
And sorry for the side quest with Swalwell.
I still want to talk about that.
But I wanted to have you talk like in maybe in the spirit of full disclosure for the good of the American people, which I would argue should happen, whether it's Swalwell or UFOs or Epstein, quite frankly, or by the way, Russia Gate, which when you release all of the information, whether it's my Russia Gate or Professor Government.
The Russiagate stuff is going to get charged by the grand jury that is impaneled in the Southern District of Florida right now.
That's the big, that's the big RICO charge that we've all been waiting for.
And the tell is the jurisdiction.
The fact that they're doing this outside of Washington, D.C., it shows that the raid on Mar-a-Lago is going to be viewed by the DOJ as a predicate criminal act as part of the cover-up of Russia Gate, which creates venue in the Southern District of Florida.
I mean, when you were being investigated for being a Russian agent, right, prior to the Biden Justice Department coming out and saying you were the victim, not a criminal, right?
You were the victim of a Russian influence campaign.
Before that, how cool would it have been if they're just in the interest of transparency, the fact that Benny Johnson was being investigated along with Tim Poole for being a Russian agent?
They could have tried to de-platform and smear you for.
But the whole, and I still believe, I still don't think.
I still don't think.
I mean, I got to be perfectly honest with you.
Still have no idea, if we even know the truth right about, about any of that.
Like I, I still am like really convinced that there was some type of Usaid or some type of like greater overall entrapment operation there uh, that that went south.
But but anyway, I just like listen man, I just don't, I just ultimately, I just don't.
You know, I fundamentally, I fundamentally don't trust um, that our federal government has been forthright with us.
And I would like, I feel like the easy, like it might not be perfect, but light is the best disinfectant.
And I'm actually really glad that there was a lot of these, like, I don't think we've had all of them, but a lot of these Epstein files have been released.
The vice president looks me in the eyeball and goes, yes, like, like Barack Obama says, yes, UFOs are real.
They're not an Area 51.
The vice president looks me in the eyeballs and goes, they're demons.
And Trump says we got to disclose everything.
And now you're on my show saying, wait a second, they're non-human biologics.
And people from the army have told me where there's breeding programs between humans and aliens.
Yeah, no, look, I think that on those matters where our security and the focus of our government needs to be sharpened for the American people, I've always been in the interest of disclosure.
But I think that you and I are in a unique position to sympathize with those who have been under investigation, but not yet cleared.
And if the new guiding light of conservatism and of our movement is just release shit whenever you have it at any point in time, you and I both know that a future Attorney General Jamie Raskin, a future special prosecutor, Adam Schiff, what they'll do is start investigations of people that will never result in any criminal charge or any conviction, but then they'll surreptitiously leak out of context information.
And we have to be resilient against that, against that mechanism, I think.
And you should actually be totally in favor of the exoneration here.
You have the Speaker of the House saying that the FBI is briefing him that Eric Swalwell should not be serving on the Intel Committee, that there is compromise there and that people should be wary of this.
And so the state of California should be wary of this.
I think the state of California, don't you live there right now?
Like, hasn't the state been through enough?
Don't they deserve to know?
Even if there's some type of some scintilla of wrongdoing there, that they should know, you should ask for full exoneration.
Okay, well, to be clear about the speaker of the house that you put on, he left Eric Swalwell on the Judiciary Committee that has oversight of the FBI.
So it was kind of performance there to take him off Intel and leave him on judiciary.
It shows that the game you were watching there wasn't really the game being played.
And also, when it comes to like saving California by icing out Swalwell, from a pure math standpoint, you're just wrong about that, Benny, because the way to get a Republican governor of California is to keep Swalwell in the race, soaking up about 10 to 13% of the vote.
And then maybe you squeeze Bianco and Hilton into the general election through the crazy jungle primary they have.
The worst thing that could happen for California Republicans would be an Eric Swalwell withdrawal from the race because that would ensure a Democrat in the general election.
That is not something assured right now with him still in the contest.
I know Eric Swalwell was part of pushing all of them.
I'm not trying to like, you know, again, again, like, it was ugly.
It was hideous.
It was evil.
It was wrong.
You know, and so I'm just saying that on the basis of my instinct, I'm going to say like the full disclosure of everything tends to exonerate innocent people.
And while the process sucks, like this is kind of the game you sign up for when you get to this level in politics.
And so this is just the way the world works.
Now, I do want to talk about UFOs.
I mean, I think that you and I can politely agree to disagree on this or see how it plays out.
I don't know.
But I would like to talk about UFOs because that's something that made it an enormous amount of news this past week.
I mean, do you, okay, so I want to like, I want to like reset here and say that Matt Gates, based on my personal knowledge of a number of members of Congress, like recollections stories about like and testimonies about you and how hard you went at this issue when you were in Congress.
I think you are the forefather, the actual forefather of UFO investigations, true UFO investigations in Congress.
You're the person who first put your neck out there, first began talking about this, first held hearings, and first started talking to whistleblowers.
We went places where we had got where whistleblowers had told us that there were anomalies in what they had captured, both in photos and in radar sequences.
It's important to note that not everything pilots see is with their own eyes.
Oftentimes they're observing instruments.
And so we would go and observe where those radars showed signatures and sequences and movements that were not consistent with existing technology.
We had we observed photos of some bizarre stuff.
And then we talked to pilots who shared their own encounters of what they had observed and where they had observed it.
And it's clearly a problem.
And I think that you mentioned Kevin McCarthy.
I remember one conversation I was in with Kevin McCarthy about the UFOs.
And he turned to me and said, Matt, I don't, this was before we had a more caustic relationship.
He said, Matt, I don't believe that UFOs are out there because if anyone really knew they were out there, there would be a special interest lobbying group around getting money to solve the problem.
And I would definitely know about that.
He said that with not even a hint of irony.
And I believe that I don't think he was lying to me at all.
I think that, like, if UFOs were out there, Kevin McCarthy definitely would have been searching for a way to monetize that for donations.
He was a senior enlisted with the United States Army.
He came into my office in Crestview, Florida, in a non-classified setting.
I had members of my staff there.
And what they explained is that the military ran a very secret program where aliens that were living were in forced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants.
Now, again, I didn't verify this, but what the whistleblower was telling me is that there were like between six and 12 locations around the country where this happened.
And what he wanted was a group, members of Congress, to all show up at the same time at all of these different locations so that any of those activities could not be moved.
And of course, it's a physical impossibility to get members of Congress to simultaneously show up at like eight locations at one time.
Well, that was the testimony of David Grush before the House Oversight Committee, which I've joined.
And the testimony was that in crashes of craft that had been recovered by the CIA and through a special program that the CIA had for crash recovery, that it wasn't just the hard materials.
It was also biologics, but that they couldn't identify a human source of those biologics.
So, but not like, there was no reason, like, we didn't have an actual reason to believe the guy wasn't credible other than the fact he was saying things that at the time struck us as wild.
I think, yeah, I think the thing that I could talk about, you know, is my reaction to some of the radar sequences.
Like the actual, what, what, what I observed was, was classified, but I could tell you just as my reaction to that observation is that when you see radar of multiple vessels or craft merging into one vessel and then being able to merve out of that and into that repeatedly, that is not a technology that we possess or that any of our adversaries possess.
But there are, I believe that when you see that type of thing on radar, you start to wonder where that comes from.
We have that footage from a Reaper drone that shows a Hellfire missile hitting this object and it breaking into multiple pieces and then it reconsolidating.
Team is grabbing it right now.
Like, have you seen this?
Like, I'm not, I don't think you were serving Congress exactly at the time of this briefing.
I don't know, but I wasn't surprised by it based on the ability to merve into one and MERV out and MERV back in that I'd seen in other radar sequences.
I don't think I've seen probably some of the most interesting stuff to declassify.
Again, I think that if the things I've seen were declassified, the public's questions would be around how this technology exists that can do some of these things.
And if we don't have it, and if we don't believe anyone else on Earth has it, you know, where do we think it came from?
I've seen things in classified settings that are not explainable with the technology we know is available.
And I'm pretty well versed in that.
I was on the Armed Services Committee for eight years.
I sat on the Emerging Threats subcommittee that oversaw everything going on in cyberspace, had access to DARPA and the projects they were working on, had special compartmentalized clearance that is above the clearance of just a regular congressional briefing.
And so I even got to see things that other members of Congress didn't get to see that weren't on the Armed Services Committee.
I followed closely the commentary of people who discussed the reverse engineering theories that as we acquired technology that we were not familiar with, we transmitted that technology to Lockheed Martin so that they could reverse engineer some of the plasma propulsion concepts that we'd observed and perhaps even some of the stealth concepts.
That's been chronicled in a number of books.
And I study that literature and I'm, you know, when you look at the fusion of the defense contractors with the actual military, it is very believable to me that this would be something that would be existing as much in the defense contractor space as in the actual military space.
Tim Burchett has a really well-developed theory that aliens from outer space have bases that are underwater on Earth that they utilize for resources during transit and that they've concluded that like direct confrontation or interaction with humans carries risk.
And so they utilize Earth as sort of a resource stop off.
And occasionally, you know, we get these interactions that aren't playing.
We've had the particle accelerator people on, right?
Like we've had some of the flux people on, you know, the wormhole theorists and talking to us about this.
And it seems, you know, that that sort of technology seems to match or align with at least like kind of what you're describing.
I don't pretend to be the expert.
Just here to be curious um, and ask, but but it's, you know it, at some point you, you have to like, go ahead and read like you, you read, so you say you're a fan of reading, and this is the last thing i'll bring up um, dr Krastios, a Alex, I don't know if we have this in the script.
Last question, he's the, you know, science and technology guy that Trump appointed to be in charge and he, you know, in sort of his opening salvo, he writes about how America has the technology to completely destroy time and space.
White House says it has the tech that can manipulate time and space and make distance pointless effectively, like it's effective, like what you would describe a flux capacitor as right, like what you'd describe like a you know like like, and I thought, I thought whoa, at the same day, Donald Trump's in the Oval Office saying that they have weapons that nobody even understands and nobody can even, nobody can even describe right.
Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space and leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity.
That's obviously mission accomplished in the Iran War.
We no longer have to worry about getting vessels through the straits of Hormuz because we could just manipulate time and space and teleport them from the person involved into the Indian Ocean or something.
Yes, that's uh that that means we don't have to uh spend another trillion dollars and spill the blood of more Americans, like ushering uh China and Europe's uh liquefied natural gas through the straits of Hormuz.
Okay uh, what would be your advice when it comes to the release of these, you know, the UFO files?
Final question, because like that's clearly something that like people are buzzing a bit about starting to see some like maybe disappearing over, you know.
I mean, I think that as these lawmakers – I mean what if what we're seeing here, Benny, is that as these lawmakers are getting closer to the authorities to put this all out, people are disappearing who might have – like I don't know that we can view the path toward transparency and the progress made.
as entirely independent from um these people just being disappeared, who are around the mission.
So that's kind of scary and awful to think about.
But uh, I I do think we're on the march toward it.
I think there has to be immediately, we have to start thinking about uh, like putting people in witness protection.
Uh, if they've been around these missions, because it's the, the coincidences are starting to stack up, and they may just be coincidences, but uh, I I would start with protecting your evidence, and that evidence comes in two forms, documents and testimony.
So protect the evidence, protect the people and then ultimately, you need kind of a church style commission and and uh, you got to get past the, the slow walk of usual congressional oversight.
This has to be accelerated and i'm glad there are people trying to get us the truth, But they face serious headwinds.
I've talked to a number of homicide detectives and other law enforcement professionals who say that these are exactly the type of fact patterns where you have common work, common employment, where you would have a central node of these investigations and you would be looking at them and trying to see what commonalities exist, what, you know, even the lack of evidence, right?
Even the manner in which some of these crimes, like almost in an unworldly and mysterious way, have no physical evidence, it is concerning.
And I think it needs to be investigated as one fact pattern and at least determine whether or not that's what we're watching.
I'd love to know which of our clips is going to go viral.
But we always seem to have, every time I come on your show, it's like, I have to plan for like messages from all my friends for the next several weeks because we would say something.
We'll be using our Patriot mobile devices today, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't you worry, we'll be heading over to the other side of the state where Trump is going to be dropping his brand new skyscraper.
Here's the T's, just absolutely incredible.
50-story skyscraper, presidential library inside, complete with an Air Force One.
Just wild, the difference between this and Barack Obama's presidential library sort of like shows you the ethos of the man, Donald Trump, building magisterial, carving the skyline, pointing upwards, showing Americans what we can do if we are committed to a vision, if we believe in American exceptionalism and might and grit and build.
And it's beautiful.
It proves that Donald Trump is going to make Miami his home office.
That's clearly a Trump office up there.
There's also a full and total replica of the White House inside, along with a large event space and so on.
It's going to be epic.
They are able to fit, just to show you the size of this thing, they're able to fit a Boeing 757 inside of the lobby.
Wild.
That's the Air Force One there.
So, goodness gracious.
I look forward to seeing that.
Eric Trump gave us a little sneak preview when we were with Eric a couple of months ago.
And I was like, geez, the skyscraper.
It's like, this is going to be mogging Barack Obama's library.
The difference, ladies and gentlemen, of course, the architectural difference.
Donald Trump is building what he wanted to build on ground zero.
If you know the Trump lore, you'll know that Donald Trump wanted to build a massive twin tower, like two twin towers.
Ground zero wasn't able to get it done.
I think they went with a lesser design.
Nonetheless, Donald Trump's building his own freedom tower.
Barack Obama is embracing brutalism and hideous, ugly, windowless oppression, which is what he represents.
There is literal architect style of the Nazi Party.
It's also the architect style of the Soviets.
Cement, blocks, no windows, hovering, oppressive monuments that are intended to destroy your soul and spirit.
So, ladies and gentlemen, the differences couldn't be more stark.
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Let's see, how long will DHS shutdown last?
Yeah, I think, I think, I think we already know the answer to that.
It should not be lasting long, please.
I pray.
And when we pray, ladies and gentlemen, we pray our verse of the day.
John 13, 34.
I give you a new commandment.
Love one another as I have loved you, so that you should also love one another.
Make sure, ladies and gentlemen, that you're doing like your level-headed best.
Yes, a brutal life out there.
It's tough.
That gets intense.
Obviously, it's, you know, no one can be perfect.
But if you embrace the gifts that God has given you, if you live a life of gratitude, if you charge forward in knowing that the Lord has brought you a very, very long way, and there's still farther to go, being appreciative of that, love one another, love your country, love your community, love your nation, love one another.
We're gonna go and love ourselves.
And Artemis 2 rocket launch.
And we'll see you online for this hopefully internet-breaking interview in just a few short hours.