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March 5, 2026 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
01:55:40
🚨A WARNING To Texas: This Radical FREAK May Be The Next Senator…

James Tallarico’s $30M-funded Texas Senate primary win—over Jasmine Crockett—exposes radical leftist shifts, with his "front porch" border rhetoric, six-gender claims, and non-binary God stance sparking backlash as anti-Christian. Republican Steve Toth calls him a "performative Christian" pushing Marxist policies like abolishing ICE, while Ken Paxton brands his views heretical and a threat to Texas’ conservative values. Meanwhile, Nancy Mace’s expose on Clinton-Epstein ties and Nancy Pelosi’s taxpayer-funded harassment slush fund frames the fight as a clash between accountability and elite corruption, warning Tallarico’s rise signals a broader cultural and political war. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
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benny johnson
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brandon herrera
05:34
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ken paxton
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nancy mace
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rep steve toth
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Appearances
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james talarico
04:03
Clips
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ainsley earhardt
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brian kilmeade
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lawrence jones
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Florida's Elective Seats 00:07:38
lawrence jones
Meanwhile, my home state of Texas, I think.
ainsley earhardt
We've been talking about this guy, James Tallarico.
He won the Senate Democratic primary, and he will be the Democratic nominee, beat out Jasmine Crockett.
But when you look at some of the comments he's made, we're questioning, is he more radical than Texas is ready for?
Listen to these comments.
unidentified
America.
Thank you.
james talarico
Our southern border should be like our front porch.
There should be a giant welcome mat out front.
There are many more than two biological sexes.
In fact, there are six.
God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.
God is non-binary.
lawrence jones
So he says he's a pastor.
Born and raised in Texas.
Our pastors don't talk like that.
I mean, you can't even get alcohol on Sunday in Texas in the Bible Belt.
So look, I understand the people.
No, you can't get alcohol.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah.
lawrence jones
You can't go to the store to get alcohol.
ainsley earhardt
You can't buy it at all on Sunday.
You can buy it after like one o'clock.
lawrence jones
You can go into like bars and all that.
But if you want to go, like, we have strike.
ainsley earhardt
They don't serve until Sunday.
unidentified
They don't serve.
Right.
lawrence jones
So we're that strict on that, but this guy doesn't know about the gender of God.
brian kilmeade
They make him out to be the next generation of savvy Democratic politicians that is center left.
unidentified
No way.
brian kilmeade
And the statements he make are anything but.
ainsley earhardt
If you start talking like that, does he know where he is?
He's in Texas.
unidentified
It's just not.
brian kilmeade
He just got the nomination, so he just won.
ainsley earhardt
There are a lot of Democrats there, but I don't know if they know what they're voting for.
unidentified
It took years to develop the most woke creature of the Democrat Party.
A creature so woke and retarded that it believes in its core programming that men should have abortion rights.
Week beta males who come into contact with this creature will suddenly have the urge to order fresh kale and complain about your diesel trucks because Tallerico was bred from the stem cells of the woke mine virus.
He is the most deranged swamp creature ever created.
benny johnson
Dude does suck.
I mean, James Tallerico, man, we are going to go in this morning and welcome back.
Good, happy, and wonderful Thursday morning to you.
Like, you've been a parent before, like, sometimes you lose actually track of what day of the week that it actually is.
I have we have been just uh rolling nonstop.
Alex, I just like hopped off the phone talking about this.
It has either been a Bad Bunny Super Bowl performance, a black bagging of Nicholas Maduro, a Mexico in collapse, a world war, or a Trump assassination at Mar-a-Lago every single weekend of the year.
They always wait for the weekends of this, so it's like the time is just like a flat circle at this point for me.
Time is just a flat circle, nothing like nothing matters.
It's just all rolls.
It's just all rolls.
It was check the script.
Thursday, March 5th, 2026.
James Tallerico exposed.
We're spending the show talking to the forces of Texas that won yesterday.
We're going to have the man who defeated Dan Crenshaw on the program, Steve Toff.
We're going to have Ken Paxton, the man who's in a runoff, and talk with him about what's going on with John Cornyn and President Trump endorsement.
Will he drop out of the race if President Trump endorses John Cornyn?
What's that about exactly?
Brandon Herrera, who's in a runoff with somebody who's like a total and complete scumbag, his name's Silly Gonzales.
They're all going to be on the show.
So we're going to lock in and get you the news about the lone star state that is critical when it comes to a map of Democrats potentially trying to secure power for the rest of their lives.
And that's what would happen if they were able to flip Senate seat in Texas.
You know, if the trends play out and the trends were not great for Republican, I know Doomer.
And, you know, this happens every couple of years where they say Ted Cruz is going to lose his seat.
They say John Corny's going to lose his seat.
But Texas, they've been playing hard for Texas.
They've been putting as much criminal alien activity into Texas.
They've been importing as many people that are non-Texas culture natives.
I mean, look at the number of mosques that have been built.
Texas is a culture and it's a culture that's fading fast, sadly.
I pray that this isn't the case.
But if we don't want it to be the case, we're going to have to fight for it.
And that's what we're going to do on this program.
As Texas goes, so goes the rest of the country.
Texas is going to be getting six new congressional seats.
Six.
Democrats are terrified.
Up this morning, Barack Obama out muling and bitching and begging for Virginia to rig their elections to kick out Republican seats.
Boy, oh boy, Indiana is going to have some primaries.
I pray to God that the Indiana primaries kick out those senators in Indiana who refuse to redistrict, who refuse to help President Trump secure a House majority.
It's going to be a tough 2026 midterm.
That's why you got to get your full armor of God on.
You got to get your fighting spirit back.
But this is going to be a tough one, man.
And they're cunning for Texas.
And unlike California, Texas is gaining power.
Texas is where huge multinational corporations are moving to.
Texas is where a ton of people are planning on resettling the financial ecosystem of the country is moving to Dallas.
There are so many different companies.
Of course, Elon Musk is one of them.
Fled San Francisco for Texas and many of the major companies that Elon runs: X, Grok, Tesla, the Giga Factory in Austin.
And, you know, much like I love the state of Florida and a lot of these positive trends are happening in Florida, and I don't even mind it anymore.
Like when it comes to Libs moving to Florida, like I don't even mind it anymore because I feel like Florida has such a strong culture.
I mean, we've become just like a super majority red state.
The culture of Florida is so strong.
I don't mind.
Like I've watched these Democrats on my own block like melt into DeSantis voters, melt into sort of very light.
Maybe they wouldn't post it on social media, but light like Trump policies, like they love them.
And I am worried about Texas.
I'm worried that Texas has been Florida for so long that they've lost track of who they are.
They've lost their will to fight.
They've lost that fighting spirit.
Texas has been so red for so long.
It's been so Republican for so long.
We have the Bush family, right?
The Bushes were here that they were ripe for the picking because that's what happens when you get fat, happy, lazy, comfortable, and you just kind of settle in and you are able to be manipulated the way they did in Georgia.
Like a good example of that is Georgia.
And Democrats know that this is an extinction-level event for them because in the 2030 census, as we have often covered, Florida is going to gain five seats.
Texas is going to gain six seats.
Red states are planning on gaining all of the electoral seats.
Blue states are losing a net swing of 20 electoral votes to red kingdoms.
Locking In With Patriots 00:06:51
benny johnson
We just got to keep it.
We just got to be strong.
We got to be smart.
I'm really happy with some of the results in Texas, obviously.
I'm really happy that some of the more inauthentic and cringe Republicans lost or got wounded.
And so, again, we're going to use our show to consolidate and to cast a vision.
No victory is assured.
You have to fight for every single one of them.
And so, again, a stacked show.
The battle of Texas is before us.
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In fact, they were more ravenous and evil than ever.
We're going to cover that in whom they put forward, James Tallerico, exactly what a extreme radical this guy is.
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Okay.
Trump polling.
Check this out.
Speaking of George W. Bush, Trump polling.
You know, you'll note that Donald Trump is actually polling better than Barack Obama and George Bush at this exact time in his second term.
It's not much better.
I wish it was a lot better, but Trump is now officially polling better than, you know, what the Democrats considered the Messiah.
We're going to talk about how hedonistic and blasphemous Democrats are in their selection of James Tallerico today.
But like, check this out.
President Trump, Obama, Bush, second term job approval.
President Trump's two points above Obama.
Please zoom in, Klein.
Can't see it.
Or at least put the data on screen.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
President Trump's two points above Obama and is like an order of magnitude above George W. Bush.
I mean, that's five points right there.
So like, okay, there's a lot of doomers out there.
I'm not going to be one of them.
As I have said, as I said yesterday, you take bad Trump with good Trump.
There's nothing like, like, come on.
Look, I'm no sweet summer child.
I'm no spring chicken.
Everybody's seen a Trump truth or had like a Trump decision that we disagreed with.
I'm so sick of the people who are acting like this is our first rodeo.
I'm a three-time Trump voter.
We've been with this movement and on this bandwagon for a long time to sit there and abandon it, to burn your MAGA house right now.
It's just so incredibly cucked.
I mean, honestly, it's just incredibly weak.
And I'm going to say this, like, because I think there's a lot of people that actually don't have any fight left in them.
And it makes me sad because I actually have something that I'm fighting for.
I'm fighting to stay out of jail.
I don't commit crimes.
We have great, I know that I'll be the first guy locked up, one of them, right?
When they, you know, when Democrats get back in charge, the DOJ of the IRS.
You know what they're going to do.
You saw what they did to see Bannon and Peter Navarro.
They put them in jail.
We don't have the guts, but Bill and Hillary Clinton in jail, they put them in jail.
They didn't even bat an eye.
They never apologized for it.
They put, they killed hundreds of J Sixers.
I mean, these people committed suicide because they know they were going to get 20 to life for like sending out a meme.
Put a meme maker in jail, Douglas Mackey.
They charged him for a meme.
Do you realize what these people are going to do?
Do you realize the vengeance they're going to visit upon us?
You're going to sit there and not vote for Donald Trump.
You're going to set out the election?
unidentified
Fine.
benny johnson
That's your right.
I'm never going to sit there and scold you for what you're going to.
Because of a policy disagreement one way or the other that none of us know about.
I mean, honestly, they didn't elect me president.
They didn't elect you president.
They elected Donald Trump president.
In that is implicitly the understanding that we're going to end up trusting the judgment of this team, which I think is exceptional, quite frankly.
Marco Rubio is exceptional.
Exceptional.
Pete Hegseth has been exceptional in rebuilding our military.
I really like JD Vance.
I really have liked the policies there.
And please, ALX, put up the immigration.
I reposted it this morning.
Immigration numbers.
You know, America's taken zero refugees.
Zero.
We banged on all day on Tuesday about Ilhan Omar and the fake refugees.
You know, the guy that shot up and killed Texans was a fake refugee from Senegal.
He came here just murder.
And now the Trump administration has just shut down all refugees.
Zero, zero.
They let in a couple white South Africans.
That's the only refugees they've let in.
You're talking absolute zero.
Zero criminal immigration, zero refugees in.
And now, reporting from this morning from CBS, there has now been an outflow of immigrants.
Immigrants, criminal aliens who've just completely given up because of the rock-solid stonewalling of the administration on immigration policy.
Going back to the core of how our immigration policy was originally written, will you be delivering for our people to the benefit of American happiness, good order, and allegiance to our Constitution?
And the answer for the vast majority of the world would be no.
You wouldn't actually make America a better, safer, cleaner place, more orderly and Christian place, more desirous place to raise your children.
You wouldn't actually secure our children's future.
And so these are like very good policies.
You have to take the good with the bad.
Voting For Complexity 00:05:42
benny johnson
And there have been things that I've publicly, very loudly disagreed with President Trump on and the administration.
And this is what it is.
That's being like a loving member of the MAGA movement.
And you can spark off it without letting that spark burn your MAGA hat down.
And so, like, all the doomers, the black pillars, and stuff like that, like you're just not going to get it on the show.
You're not going to get like pragmatist, low IQ, smooth-brained cheerleading.
We've screamed until our voices cracked about the Epstein issue, and we were right.
We were right.
We were right.
We were right the instant they released that memo, sort of like absolving Epstein.
brandon herrera
We were right.
benny johnson
We were the first people to call it out.
The first people to call it out.
We snapped.
We lost our minds.
I radicalized Charlie on that.
It is what it is.
I mean, truly, it is what it is.
And you do it out of love, not out of hate, because it's our movement too.
You know?
And so, in these times, it's like just absolutely critical to be able to maintain both sides.
You can hold the side up.
To sit there in a two-party system and to say, okay, I'm going to vote Democrat, or I'm just going to allow the Democrats to win is insane.
What it is, is a vote for them to politically harass you.
They'll go to every single Trump voter.
They'll find every Trump voter.
You think it's just going to be the J Sixers?
They'll go after you.
Look at what they did to Donald Trump.
Look what they did to the people around him.
Like they'll, to sit this out, to turn on Trump, is to sit there.
It is actually an immorality, I would argue.
Not because Trump is some type of messianic figure.
He's not.
He's a man just like me and you.
But because of what the left stands for, which is what we're going to get into today with James Tallarico.
Like James Tallarico is the perfect example of what they are going to do when they seize power again.
And this is why it's critical to expose these people.
So you're frustrated with some war foreign policy decisions.
Me too.
And I'm still processing all of it.
I don't know all the information.
And some of it doesn't seem right.
Some of it seems fine.
But again, I'm a three-time Trump voter.
I know that this is what I'm voting for, literally what I'm voting for.
Literally what I'm voting for is the gut instinct here.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
What's the alternative exactly?
So you don't like a foreign policy decision that we're engaging in bombing runs, you know, and major military operation in the Mideast.
Okay.
unidentified
There.
benny johnson
So you're going to vote for or vote by proxy by sitting out for the party that literally did the exact same thing in Ukraine and the Mideast, by the way.
Like did the exact same thing in Gaza and Ukraine.
Like the same thing.
It's not exactly like a testament to these decisions.
I think these decisions need still to be like played out.
But that's like, that's how you're going to get back at like to voting for like the Ukraine people?
Like that?
The Gaza war people?
Like that, that's how you're going to get back?
Okay.
But like then think about what else that brings with it.
So then you're going to get the transing of the children.
You're going to get the storming of the churches by the FBI and spying on Christians.
You're going to get the open borders with that.
You're going to get the naturalization of 30 million literal criminals that will come here, rig the election system for all time, make Puerto Rico and DC a state.
So add four more guaranteed Democrat senators, making it impossible for Republicans to ever have control of that chamber ever.
The packing of the Supreme Court, and you're going to get people like Kamala Harris dictating how your children must be educated, your food supply and your foreign policy.
That's how you're going to get back at the system.
That seems pseudo-masochistic.
You're literally mutilating yourself.
You're harming yourself.
You're going to get back at them by punching yourself in the nuts.
It seems incredibly stupid to me.
It seems incredibly stupid.
You don't have to agree with everything.
Yeah, I've been, as you can obviously tell, I've been wrestling with this all the time.
Like for a long time.
But I continue to come back to the same Which is, you know, the devil I know, kind of thing, right?
Which is like, I haven't and don't agree with 100% of everything Trump does.
He's a human being.
You don't agree with anything 100% that any other human being does.
We're all fallen from grace, deserving of extreme and eternal punishment.
God's forgiveness floats us all, frankly.
No one's perfect.
But there are shades of bad.
And all you have to do is look at James Tallarico to find out what they have in store.
Feminist Slaughter: 80 Million Votes? 00:12:06
benny johnson
My goodness.
This guy, who will be the next senator from Texas, he had like pretty good.
They spent $30 million on this guy.
He's a state representative.
$30 million.
Jasmine Crockett spent six.
He barely beat Jasmine Crockett.
So he's kind of weak.
But don't discount the propaganda machine, the election-rigging machine, the amount of illegal votes in Texas, the fact that Texas is not taking the kind of steps that are absolutely required in order to clean as much of the voter rolls as possible and prevent illegal voting as possible.
This is a scary time.
And you can see the radicalism, the actual demonic, hedonistic, blasphemous radicalism of the left and what they intend on doing next.
If we just are stupid enough, cocked enough, doomer enough, blackpilled enough to give them the chance.
So I just like want to encourage you, ladies and gentlemen, to not vote for the guy that thinks God is non-binary.
Let's start with this.
james talarico
God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between.
God is non-binary.
benny johnson
Okay, so right away, lightning bolt from heaven.
Lightning bolt from them.
You ever read Genesis, bro?
God maketh them man and woman.
God made man in his own image.
God madeth them two genders.
Man was in the image of God.
The pronouns that God uses in the Bible is the Almighty capitalized he and Lord along with Christ.
No, God is not non-binary.
Any child who has ever read the Bible knows this.
My two-year-old knows this.
We were going through their little cute Bible books.
This is not Christian doctrine.
I mean, just like the beginnings of this, just like the core of this all is not Christian doctrine.
Transgenderism is a lie.
Transgenderism is from the pit of hell because it is the core basis of our DNA, the way we are knit together by our creator under attack from the pits of hell.
And this guy is not only the emissary of this.
He's someone who's attacking the core tenets of Christianity in Christendom by attacking Christ himself.
Here we go.
james talarico
Did they teach you in Sunday school that Jesus Christ himself was a radical feminist?
benny johnson
Jesus Christ is a radical feminist.
Be extremely cautious.
And I try and like, I do my best to like stay very salty on this.
Of people that take Christ and his universal teachings and try and bend them, like horseshoe them into modern day political iconography and talking points.
Those people are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Feminist, as is, of course, Jesus loves women.
And he loved Mary Magdalene.
He loved his own mother.
He was very kind and performed miracles for women all throughout the Bible.
He treated them well.
But to say that Christ is a feminist in the modern sense would be to say that Christ would be for, for instance, transing of five-year-olds and abortion.
That is what feminist ideology is distilled down to in the modern sense.
And he says so.
He says so here, that this is actually about perverting the scriptures into the slaughter of children.
Here we go.
james talarico
But I say all this in terms of in context of abortion because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable.
I mean, go back and read this in Luke.
I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do.
And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done.
Let it be.
Let it happen.
So to me, that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent.
You cannot force someone to create.
Creation is one of the most sacred acts that we engage in as human beings, but that has to be done with consent.
It has to be done with freedom.
And to me, that is absolutely consistent with the ministry and life and death of Jesus.
benny johnson
Okay, I banish you, demon, from my show.
I banish thee.
I will travel to Texas.
I'm traveling to Texas this month.
I will go to Texas.
I'll do anything to stop this demon from perverting my faith.
To say that the slaughter, the wholesale slaughter of God's creation in the womb, which has led to 80 million deaths.
How great would this country be with 80 million more Americans?
I would love to have 80 million more Americans.
I don't want tens of millions of criminal aliens foreign to this land and to this culture to wash upon our shores.
It's been destructive to the extreme.
It's changed the nation forever.
I don't know if we'll ever get it back.
I'm fighting as hard as I can.
But if you had 80 million more Americans, if the evil of abortion, the darkness of abortion was foisted upon us, we wouldn't, first off, be in these, like be suffering this, but also, like, what is the core tenets of what he's saying here?
He's talking about consent.
Like, as though, like, it would have been permissible for Mary to turn down God.
You're talking, I mean, you are taking, he's taking a flaming sledgehammer to the pillars of Christendom, the basic pillars of Christendom.
As though, like, God is sitting there to be scolded by us, men, that we are the ones who are in control, that man made God, not the other way around.
That Mary could have scolded God and said, I will not bear the Christ.
Same thing with John the Baptist.
Same thing with so many different stories, apostles all the way through the Old Testament and back.
That God's will doesn't matter, and that it's us who are in control of God.
This is satanic.
This is from the pits of hell.
Satan was an archangel, very powerful, cast down Bezobub into hell because he tried to fight God, because he wanted to be God.
Adam cast out of the garden because he wanted to be God, because he did not, because Adam did not consent to God's laws.
That is where the downfall of man comes from.
This is a perverse, absolute blackness, a black Sabbath on Christianity.
I cannot express it enough.
But then to also pervert the teachings, the consistency and the teachings and the clarity of Christ on the innocent children, to sit and to say that we must slaughter kids if they are inconvenient to us when Christ himself says those who harm the hairs on these children, they'll be cast at the bottom of the ocean with a stone.
And that will be much better for you to have a giant boulder strapped to your skull and to be thrown to the depths of the sea and to be eaten by the sharks and the creatures of the sea.
That's a lot better for you than what's actually going to happen to you.
It is the polar negative black Sabbath of what the gospel is intended to be.
This is truly anti-Christ teaching.
It's anti-Christian.
It is anti-Christ.
Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, saying that men, trans men, need abortions.
james talarico
Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too.
Defending trans-Texans is something we have to do every day.
benny johnson
Our trans men need abortions too.
Again, the fact that he's standing up on a church dais saying these things, you know, kind of makes you wonder, right?
Like, how can you get away with that without spontaneous spiritual combustion?
He says that we need to abolish ICE, abolish all prisons, and that there are six biological sexes.
Here we go.
james talarico
I want us all to be aware of is that modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes.
In fact, there are six, which honestly, Representative Hefner surprised me too.
Surprised me too, because I, you know, six biological sexes.
This issue area.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm a politician, a lot worse than a scientist.
benny johnson
So if there are six biological sexes, which one are you?
You got to ask these questions.
I'm going to go to Texas.
I'm going to ask them.
I'm going to ask them.
Which sex are you?
Which one?
Where does this all, where does it all come from?
This all comes from self-loathing.
He hates himself.
He views whiteness as a disease.
He said so.
He views whiteness as a virus, which is crazy.
Listen to this, ladies and gentlemen.
James Tallarico, white skin gives me and every American immunity from the virus.
We spread it wherever we go.
Through our words, actions, our systems, we don't have to be showing symptoms.
White hood or a Confederate flag to be contagious.
We're contagious.
Our whiteness is contagious.
We are a virus.
White people are a virus.
This kind of stuff is always rooted in self-loathing.
It's what the evil one always wants.
It wants us to hate ourselves, hate the way that God made us.
That's where transgenderism comes from.
It is an assault on God.
It's an assault on whom and how the creator stitched you together.
And let's talk about consent.
You didn't get any consent in that, frankly.
It is God's design.
As somebody who has been through the birth of my own children, God's design is outside of my control.
I've been through birth and loss of my own children.
It is outside of my control.
There is no consent.
It is a miracle.
It is a gift from God.
And for me to sit there and argue with it or to hate it or to teach my children to hate the way they were made is the basest evil that any man can rot upon a child to tell them that they weren't in the right body.
You don't have the right skin color.
Your skin color is a virus.
It is sickness on the pit of hell.
Crenshaw Lost: A District's Story 00:15:11
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, we have waiting on our program to respond to all of this, Brandon Herrera.
And before we jump over to Brandon Herrera, who had an incredible election night, he's headed to a runoff against despicable scumbag, Tony Gonzalez.
I want to play something because Brandon Herrera has the biggest border district in the country.
He has some nearly thousand miles of border in his district.
And Tallarico says he wants that border to be a welcome mat to criminal aliens.
So I thought that Brandon Herrera would have an interesting response to that.
Here's Tallerico.
james talarico
Our southern border should be like our front porch.
There should be a giant welcome mat out front.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
benny johnson
Brandon Herrera joining us live to respond.
Let's go.
Brandon, congratulations.
Welcome back to the program.
You did a great job on election night.
You won the total overall vote.
What does the strategy look like going into the runoff?
brandon herrera
Well, I appreciate it, brother.
It was a big night for the first time in Tony Gonzalez's political career.
He lost an election.
He failed to win.
Not just did he fail to win the nomination without a runoff, but he also came in second place, which again has never happened in his political career.
So I greatly appreciate it.
All the support from you, from the people of Texas, from the voters.
And we did it without taking any big special interest money.
So I'm pretty proud of that.
I am actually a little upset at you, though, for making me sit backstage and have to listen to James Tallarico.
benny johnson
I'm sorry.
brandon herrera
I don't think anybody should be subjected to that.
I always forget every time it's been a while since I've listened to him talk, I forget how good he is at sounding like he knows what he's talking about.
benny johnson
What is he exactly?
You know, like, I like this guy seemed to have come from nowhere, but if you've been paying attention, obviously he's been the spokesperson for some of the dumber gambits.
They've been grooming this guy for a very long time.
He's has a very creepy energy.
He has like kind of a megachurch pastor, like, but the guy like right before he gets arrested, energy to him.
You know, I like I, you know, he just kind of seems like, yeah, if Blue Sky became a person and you actually look through what his ideology is, it's truly more radical than Ilhan Omar in AOC.
brandon herrera
Yeah, 100%.
And it's just, I guess it's the frustrating part for me is how confidently wrong he is, especially when he brings up any matters of Christianity or anything.
Like he's just very, very confident in preaching something that is objectively unbiblical.
benny johnson
So, I mean, you're not running against him, but I'm using this effectively as a, you know, a straw man to show everyone, like, this is what the Democrat Party is going to bring to the country.
This is what they want.
This is the model that the trans men need abortions.
I'm ashamed of myself.
I'm ashamed of my skin color.
My skin color is a disease.
We didn't even get to the 15 other anti-white tweets that he has about how much he just hates himself and hates the way that God made him.
And I think that's quite frankly the core of it all.
The core of modern day leftism is self-loathing.
And then that expands into loathing of your neighbors and then your country, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon herrera
And it's crazy that the choices on the Democrat side of things on Tuesday was between him and Jasmine Crockett.
That was the best that Texas could come up with on the Democrat side.
But, well, I guess it just means that Tallerico is going to be going up against the winner of the runoff in the Senate race, which is either John Cornyn, another just horrific anti-gun, anti-border rhino, and then Ken Paxton.
benny johnson
So, okay, you know, like, I just, I guess I want to like ask from a tech, from a Texan perspective, you know, what is this exactly?
You know, what is happening in Texas?
It does seem like a major warning sign that somebody this radical and somebody this extremely progressive and left-wing can seize this nomination and then can do so with like a lot of votes.
I mean, right?
With like some actual enthusiasm behind him.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon herrera
Oh, and it's a major warning sign.
And it's because a lot of the Democrats are focusing all of their guns at Texas.
They're looking at Texas because, you know, where Texas goes, so goeth the nation.
And they know that, you know, if they take Texas, we will never have a Republican president ever again.
And that's their goal.
I mean, it's like if the Republicans took California, but they've been trying.
You know, Austin's been growing.
They've been bringing Californians out to Texas to try to make it blue.
And I think on the other side of things, though, you know, that's the black pill.
The white pill is: I think that this is a very big anti-incumbent primary.
And I think there was a loud voice against bad incumbents.
Dan Crenshaw lost his race.
John Cornyn's being pushed to a runoff that he will very likely lose.
Tony Gonzalez is going to get smoked in the runoff against me.
You know, we're firing a lot of the worst incumbents we had.
And I think Texas is doing some housekeeping.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
So Tallarico says he wants a welcome mat on the border.
And you have the district that has the you are running for the district that is the longest border with Mexico.
Your response to him.
brandon herrera
Well, it was a welcome mat for the entirety of the Biden administration.
And we saw the catastrophic effects, not just for the country, but especially for my district.
Everybody in West Texas has a story about how illegal immigration, you know, whether it was somebody cutting through their property, you know, somebody getting assaulted or just feeling unsafe, break-ins to their houses for people that are smuggling people across the border that are looking for water or food or anything else.
Everybody had a story out here.
Like I said, Brackettville is out in Kinney County.
It's a very small rural community, and they were the high-speed chase capital of the entire country.
They didn't have the resources to deal with that.
And that's because we had a wide open welcome mat of a southern border.
We didn't enforce our border laws, and the district suffered greatly for it to the degree that several blue counties in the district went red for Trump in 2024 because they knew that this was unsustainable.
We needed action.
benny johnson
So, how are you intending on winning this runoff?
brandon herrera
Well, we've got the grassroots support.
I'm very, very thankful that we've got a good team on the ground.
We've done better than we've ever done before.
I mean, in the first primary that I took Tony to a runoff, I believe I got 24% of the vote this time.
So we almost beat expectations by our prior race by about 20 points.
So that being said, that last runoff, we lost by 407 votes roughly.
That is a pretty tight margin considering we're doing 20 points ahead of where we were last time.
And I think we'll have the support of the other two challengers as well.
You have former Congressman Kiko Kinseiko.
You had Keith Barton, both people I had a pretty good relationship with during the campaign.
And at the end of the day, I think that they're tired of Tony too.
And I think that's why they ran.
And so to consolidate their support and start to heal the Republican Party so we can move on to fighting the Democrats in November.
That's going to be the big fight.
All right.
benny johnson
Healing the Republican Party.
There were a lot of people cheering that Dan Crenshaw lost his seat.
And I just want to get your take on that.
Obviously, I think this is something that made probably the most news out of yesterday's results.
brandon herrera
Sure, I am blown away, frankly.
That was the upset of the night.
I knew Dan was going to have a tight challenge in that race and potentially going into a runoff.
Wasn't really sure.
But it was decisive.
It was a decisive victory from Steve Toth.
And I guess that that really just shows the amount of frustration there is in his district.
And like I said, I think there's a frustration across Texas in general with incumbents and specifically with bad incumbents.
And that energy is palpable.
And we saw that in the results.
benny johnson
Yes.
What is the message to your district?
What is going to be the winning message to your district in this runoff?
The runoff will be in May.
Do I have that wrong?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
So the runoff will be in May.
What is your walkaway message to the voters of Texas 18?
brandon herrera
Well, we need to, or Texas 23, but we need to consolidate the party.
We need to start focusing and codifying President Trump's executive orders on the border so it does not ever go back to the way that it was.
We need to work on cost of living.
We need to work on our debt situation.
We need to work on take care of our veterans.
We have so many issues that are specific to District 23 that affect the rest of the nation as well.
And so it's time we start bringing everybody together to start getting this job done.
You know, we have somebody right now in office that's put a pretty big stain on the office for this district.
And I think it's time we start moving forward and, again, focus on taking the fight to the Democrats in November.
benny johnson
And if you're asked how many genders there are, what will your answer be, Brent?
brandon herrera
Let me carry the one.
I believe it's two.
I believe that's what I was taught in biology anyway.
benny johnson
We all know there's six genders.
Oh, this dude is the Senate candidate in Texas.
brandon herrera
Well, what's crazy is he's probably going to be under a lot of fire from the people that think there are infinite genders.
He's not radical enough for them.
benny johnson
That's right.
I mean, I just, the stuff about the stuff about the Christian faith, though, is what really gets me.
I just, man, it makes my blood, makes my blood boil.
It's very anti-Christian.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
It's very anti-Christian, actually.
brandon herrera
He makes a very compelling point that, you know, the Bible can be consistent with leftist values if you completely ignore everything that's in it.
benny johnson
Yes.
If you just don't read the Bible or you read it backwards and believe the inverse of what it says, then you can be a leftist Christian.
That's right.
unidentified
Too easy.
Oh, yeah.
benny johnson
Too easy.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
We cracked the code.
Wow.
brandon herrera
All right.
benny johnson
Thank you, Brandon.
Godspeed.
Please come back and I'll be in Texas.
I hope that we can go campaign together.
I'd love to go to the district, man.
brandon herrera
We would be honored to have you.
benny johnson
Like a rowdy district.
Looks like a good district with some good barbecue, a district with some good Americans in it.
And it's like, I love the map.
brandon herrera
Yeah, I'll uh I'll show you some of the good spots around town, but no, we'd love to have you out at a rally or something like that.
I think we're gonna we're gonna be bigger and better than ever before this time around.
benny johnson
Man, Brandon Herrera, he's got the backing of all of the energy online, all of the people who have locked in for the America First movement.
He's got 700,000 subscribers here on social media.
You must be one of them.
Fight with the people who are fighting for you.
Godspeed, Brandon.
brandon herrera
Thank you, brother.
benny johnson
Appreciate you.
Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Toth is fresh off of his victory against Dan Crenshaw in the Texas primary that shocked the nation and proved that the Republican America first primary voters still have all the power.
And he joins us live right now.
Steve, it's an absolute honor to have you on the program.
rep steve toth
Good to be with you.
benny johnson
How has the last 24 hours been?
rep steve toth
It's really been a whirlwind.
I mean, we're excited.
We, you know, we did polling back in June and it adequately described exactly what we're going to find.
And it's funny, but no one would believe me when I would tell them this guy's underwater.
He can't win.
And just no one would believe us.
We're shocked.
benny johnson
So you were shocked on election night?
I saw the video.
It was great, man.
rep steve toth
It was like, you know, it's just, you know, Ted Cruz once said, run scared or run on a post, right?
And so even though we had all this great linear regression modeling, poll after poll that was showing that Dan can't win.
And I would tell supporters and I would tell people that wanted to contribute to the campaign, Dan can't win.
But I couldn't absorb it into my own heart and mind that Dan can't win, right?
It's like it's this duality of what it is to run a hard race because you don't want to for a second take anything for granted.
You want to leave everything on the field and work as hard as you can.
benny johnson
Let's talk quickly about the field because there are a lot of people that sit there armchair and say, you know, here's why Dan lost.
Here's why Dan Crenshaw lost.
You know, and it has been a remarkable fall from grace because in 2018, when Dan won, you know, he had the story, you had all this kind of sort of young viral energy.
And, you know, people were saying this guy could potentially run for president.
Now he's losing a primary six years later.
Why did that happen, Steve?
rep steve toth
It was a fall from grace.
This is a guy.
You know, one of the things that I've secrets of life is being extremely grateful for everything that you have.
And as a family of Christ.
If you understand that you're deeply loved, deeply cared for, and that you have a provider that provides everything for you, the good times and the bad times, the hard things and the easy things.
Dan really has a charmed life.
He has a beautiful wife.
He has a beautiful child.
He's a member of Congress.
He was talked about as being the next vice presidential pick.
He was talked about one day being groomed for the presidency, as you just said.
And yet, for some reason, that wasn't enough for him.
And he was just a miserable man.
One of my supporters said that once supporter Dan through a fundraiser form at his beautiful home in Carleton Woods said, Dan's just really unhappy.
He's an unhappy person.
He's a miserable person.
And maybe he just needs to come home and get centered again.
I mean, he's a really talented guy.
There's just no doubt about it.
He's not stupid.
He's smart.
He's gifted.
He can be a very effective communicator.
He's got a great story, a great patriot story.
But I think there's something to just getting grounded again and being grateful for all the things that you have and not being miserable because he's miserable with everybody he comes in contact with.
benny johnson
It's funny.
Battle Scars of DC 00:02:45
benny johnson
I lived in DC for 15 years, man.
And if you come to DC as like a spring chicken or as someone who's naive, you'll get your life destroyed.
If you come to DC and you already have demons, whether that's because you went to war and got hurt or whether it's because of something else personal in your life, then it will exacerbate your demons.
DC is a reality distortion field that is designed to destroy people.
And every vice is set directly before you.
It's all free.
It's terrible.
And I think that's like if somebody were to ask me, what do you truly think, like with a polygraph on happened with Credit Shaw?
I would say that, honestly, right?
Coming to DC with pre-existing demons and they just accelerate.
rep steve toth
It sounds a lot like Austin, honestly.
I mean, it really is.
We're the eighth largest economy in the world.
If you're in the legislature, whether you're in the House or the Senate, it's not like serving in Louisiana.
It's not like serving in Delaware.
No, no offense to Louisiana and Delaware, but this is the eighth, if not seventh largest economy in the world.
And it's just filled with bottom dwellers that are just trying to suck the life out of you.
It's a very transactional place, just like DC is.
And they want you to sell your soul to them so that you can have a little bit more of that which is temporal and is passing away.
benny johnson
Yes.
So that's such a great point.
And you talk about your Christian faith.
And we're very excited, honestly, to see you run this race all the way through.
It's going to be awesome to see you in Washington, D.C., have you as an ally and friend to keep us updated as to what's going on there because you are somebody who actually has been seasoned and matured enough in your beliefs that, and you've done this, right, in the Texas state legislature.
So you have sort of the battle scars of that.
And it's always like valuable to see that, right?
It's always valuable to have that background because you can't be plied as easily when you get to Washington where the G-forces for corruption are just so much more extreme.
rep steve toth
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
rep steve toth
I mean, it's the refining fire.
It really is truly.
That's one of the things I'm so grateful for.
Not just the battle scars of Austin, but the battle scars of having to continue to try and hold my seat because they come after me every single election cycle.
The Republicans come after me every single election cycle trying to take me out.
benny johnson
Steve, you've served with someone who's gone quite viral here.
I think people will forget about Dan Crenshaw pretty quickly, but James Tallarico is somebody who is my entire timeline right now.
Viral Battle Scars 00:08:18
benny johnson
I've never been, I mean, like he, he's too left-wing for the women of the view.
Like he wouldn't get a spot on the, he wouldn't get a spot on the view couch.
I think that he's more radical than Ilhan Omar.
He is AOC.
unidentified
He is.
rep steve toth
So I've served with James since 2019 when he came into the house.
And it's funny because he went from this caustic, nasty, angry, pissed off young man to in one session, oh, I'm going to be all Christian.
I'm going to be all Presbyterian pastor.
And I mean, literally that caustic.
And I mean, you are going to see some back mic video of this guy in his most ugly, nasty, caustic moments, shilling for the most woke, evil, take the, you know, cut the penises off of little boys, cut the breasts off of little girls, allow biological males into our daughters' restrooms and showers to the most disgusting things of critical race theory, you name it.
I mean, this guy is as far to the left as you can possibly go.
benny johnson
When you listen to the speeches he's given, they're not just a progressive take on Christianity.
They're anti-Christianity.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
To say that God is non-binary, well, that's antithetical to God and this antithetical to the first chapter of Genesis and the nature of God, to say that Christ would be for abortion on demand or transgenderism and that God needs our consent.
There's this whole thing he does to say that God's down with abortion because he needs our consent to be God.
I mean, it's not just, it's not, again, it's not just like progressive woke Christianity, like we're just going to pick and choose what verses we read, right?
Because we don't like the, you know, we don't like these verses.
It's, it's anti-Christianity, right?
Like it's a, it's a Black Sabbath.
It's, it's anti-Christian.
rep steve toth
It is the most perverted perversion.
He is the greatest perversion of the gospels and the word of God that I have ever seen.
So like as an example, he'll take Genesis where God talks about breathing life into man, right?
And he'll say, so life begins at when you're born, not at conception, even though the gospels make it really clear.
The word of God makes it really clear.
I knit you together in your mother's womb.
It talks about John the Baptist leaping inside his mother's womb when he was near Jesus, when Jesus was in Mary's womb.
You know, I mean, it's just, it's the most, he is the most ridiculous perversion of the gospel.
It's, it's heresy.
It's demonic.
unidentified
Yep.
benny johnson
Now that's fascinating, your experience with him.
And you just said in your last answer that you saw he perhaps made like some type of political calculation and did a, you know, did like a book a more like book a Mormon like Joseph A. Banks like Boy Scout makeover to become some type of like pantomime of a woke Christian.
You actually watched that happen.
Can you describe that?
What is that?
rep steve toth
So he, there is a darkness inside of him.
And I'm not one of these guys that is a, is a pastor, as a Christian.
I'm not looking for, I'm not one of these guys that believes that there's a demon under every rock.
But yeah, there are some demons under some rocks.
All right.
I'm not one that says that every, you know, Democrats demon.
In fact, I've met some really wonderful Democrats in the Texas House that have helped us push good legislation.
But this guy is one of the most evil people I've ever met.
I mean, hands down, ever met.
And now all of a sudden he's Mr. Boy Scout Presbyterian pastor.
I mean, it is a remarkable makeover.
And unfortunately, I think he's fooling a lot of people.
benny johnson
Wow.
How do you think it's going to go?
I mean, I want to talk about your race here in conclusion, but like we're going to educate people about who the real James Tellerico is.
rep steve toth
My staff right now is working on uncovering back mic and front mic exchanges that we've had with him in 2019, 21 and 23 before the great makeover.
And we're going to expose James Tellerico for who he really truly is.
We're going to show Texas who this guy truly is.
He is one of the most dangerous people that has ever stepped foot.
And I think the Democrats see him as the as the great white hope.
benny johnson
Yeah, dude, but he hates white people.
But he hates.
Steve, he hates white people.
I mean, that's like the, that's what's so crazy about this.
First off, why can't Lyns find like a just a normal white dude?
You know, there's like a lot of normal white dudes.
I'm a normal white dude.
I find it remarkable, right?
That every single guy that they find has to be Pete Buttigieg, Gavin Newsome, or Tim Walz, right?
It has to be like this freaky pantomime, like a deeply, deeply disturbed, dark, kind of like nasty, passive aggressive, strange, cucked like version of like just a normal dude.
And they keep trying to pass these guys off.
James Tallarico is just the next version of like a Tim Walz is the way that I see it as, you know, as like just completely fake and very, very like creepy actually when you get down to it.
But like I find that hilarious.
And then I go through his tweets and I realize, oh my goodness, like you, you really actually do hate yourself.
And that's where all this comes from is self-loathing.
You hate white people.
He called white people a virus and a disease.
He says his whiteness is a contagious virus.
What does that mean exactly?
rep steve toth
He's a really, you know, it's funny because I carried the legislation in 2021 that banned critical race theory in public schools in the state of Texas.
And he was the biggest opponent that I had.
So a lot of the stuff that came out of the book by, oh, I can't think of his name, but it was, it was how to become anti-racist, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Kendi.
unidentified
Kendi.
rep steve toth
Ibram Kendi, right?
He is a big, big disciple of Ibram Kendi and all of the early purveyors of critical race theory.
And to understand critical race theory is to understand that a heart of that is critical theory, right?
It's Marxism.
It's Marxism.
Class warfare did not work to bring Marxism to the United States because we have this thing called the middle class, right?
And so it became, well, what can we do to create racial division in the United States?
And this is a guy that adopted it from a very early age and has bought into it, hook, line, and sinker.
And I think he truly loathes himself.
I think he loathes the color of his skin.
I think he loathes his sexuality.
I think he loathes his gender.
He loathes everything about himself.
I mean, his mind has got to be one really crowded, crippled mess.
benny johnson
Isn't that funny how everything, like, everything that's old is new again, right?
Everything that's old is new again.
It's like, just the, just the same problems humans have had since the dawn of creation.
Just the same problem that like, you know, like Satan has, right, with God.
It's like, I'm going to be God and I hate the way you made me.
And it's like, I'm going to disobey you.
It's all the same thing, but it really is based on like the hatred for the way that God makes you.
And that's where it all comes from.
It all stems from that.
The older I get, Steve, like the more I just sort of recognize that the most precious gift I could give my children is to tell them that they are perfect in God's eyes.
He made them and he created them and God didn't put them in the wrong body or the wrong skin color, that God loves them and he put them together like he made them exactly the way that they are for this reason.
And that you should like that self-loathing is actually the pathway to total and complete destruction and in the worst possible way, right?
Because you end up destroying.
What We Started This Discussion With 00:05:34
rep steve toth
It's what we started this discussion with at the beginning, which is be grateful.
It's like one of the greatest attributes.
And it turns, goes from an attribute into this incredible blessing in your life.
Because once you learn to become grateful for what God has given you, scripture says without faith, it's impossible to please God.
If you're not thankful for what he's given you and what he's done for you, then you're not going to realize his blessings in your life.
Emotionally, just feeling good about yourself, feeling good about the world, feeling good about your fellow man, feeling good about your station in life.
It's just, yeah, it's the secret to happiness.
benny johnson
And the least practiced virtue is gratefulness.
Like we live in a society that actually looks at it as a weakness to just be thankful for the breath in your lungs and a sunset and a sunrise and like going on a walk.
Like it's like, it's too bad.
We've gotten ourselves all in a damn hurry and people should chill out.
We're very, very glad that you've chilled out, Dan Crenshaw.
We're very sad that you're going to Washington, D.C. We'll be checking in all the time, Steve.
You'll always have an opportunity to come on our program and to bang on and to tell us all about what's going on in the seventh circle of hell in D.C. when you get there.
rep steve toth
You're on, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Any last, any, any, last comments to your primary voters and the voters who now have will be, you know, I think you have a pretty solid ride.
Just check the numbers.
It looks like you have a pretty solid path to being the next congressman here in the Houston area.
rep steve toth
We do, but we're going to work really hard for it.
And, you know, as Republicans, this is, you know, this is the primary.
This is, this is where the fight is.
And the reality is that now we've got to bring our party back together.
If Texas is going to win in November, we've got to all come together.
I don't care if you did or didn't vote for me.
I'm going to work hard for you.
That's my MO.
That's what I've always done in the Texas House.
And I'm going to work hard to earn your trust and your confidence.
benny johnson
Our advice when you get to DC is become best friends with Tim Burchett.
unidentified
That's it.
benny johnson
That's what we tell every single person.
rep steve toth
Love Tim.
benny johnson
We were booking Tim long before he would ever even be welcomed, like in the shadow of the CNN studio.
rep steve toth
I'm going to steal Tim's coat.
unidentified
All right.
rep steve toth
But I'm not going to copy.
I'm not going to copy it.
benny johnson
We'll be in Texas at the end of the month.
We'll hope to meet you, Steve.
We'll be at CPAC.
So Godspeed, man.
Thank you.
And everybody, obviously, follow Steve Toth here.
He's got 40,000 subscribers on X.
I have a feeling that number is going to go up quickly.
Thank you, sir.
rep steve toth
God bless you.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be bringing you Ken Paxton, who is now forcing a runoff in the Texas Senate race.
Ken Paxton's take on James Tallarico, probably the most important, frankly, because he's going to be running against him.
James Tallerico has seized the nomination over Jasmine Crockett.
It's wild that Jasmine is like, was she the more moderate?
At least she was entertaining.
She was funny.
Like, I thought Jasmine Crockett was hilarious, actually.
We loved making fun of her.
We once had Terrence Williams on the show in a skit where he was playing Jasmine Crockett.
It was hilarious.
And so, I don't know, man.
Like, James Tallarico's, he scares the hell out of me.
Like, Jasmine Crockett, obviously, I'm not arguing necessarily.
Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe she was the moderate choice.
I mean, goodness gracious.
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Okay, uh, ladies and gentlemen, again, Ken Paxton will be uh entering the Ken Paxon will be uh will be entering the chat soon.
Would You Put Them In Prison? 00:04:33
benny johnson
Uh, he is having a couple of issues, and so we're working on uh we're working on that.
Our producers are helping uh the Attorney General of Texas to hop on the show.
So, we hope you can join, uh, guys.
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't have any uh suggestions.
They're as good at this as anyone, uh, ALX and Danny.
So, we're going to wait and see.
We're going to wait and see.
We have plenty more, by the way, from James Tallarico.
We have like, it looks like ALX has put together thousands of clips.
Let's just hit a couple of more here.
Okay, a couple of more.
How about this?
Uh, abolish ICE.
James Tallarico wants to abolish ICE and then impeach all of the ICE agents.
Okay, good.
Here we go.
james talarico
It is time to tear down this secret police force and replace it with an agency that is actually going to promote public safety.
We must, we must impeach Secretary Christy Noam.
We must, we must prosecute agents who have abused their power and we must haul these masked men before Congress so the world can see their faces.
benny johnson
Oh, cool.
Okay.
Um, let me ask you a little question here.
If you were to prosecute the ICE agents, where would you put them?
The prosecuted one.
Would you put them in, let's see, a prison?
Well, you see, here's the problem with having this level of pathological is it is psychotic in the extreme to hold two competing ideas together in your mind and visit both of them as true.
It is actually the, you know, the sun is hot, the sun is cold.
That doesn't make any sense to a normal person, but if you're a schizophrenic, if you're a sociopath, it does.
And this is the sign of it.
Let's prosecute all the Republicans and throw them where exactly.
Well, James Tallarico is against prisons.
So prosecute them and then do what exactly?
Here we go.
James Tallarico on prisons is violence.
james talarico
Pollution is violence.
Yes, prison is violence.
Dismantle this system of violence, build something new, something better, something rooted in love.
It's hard to imagine a world without prisons, but it's also hard to imagine a world without telegrams and cassette tapes.
Just because it's hard to imagine doesn't mean you shouldn't.
benny johnson
Just to imagine, imagine a world without prisons.
Imagine a world without prisons, and then imagine that we lock up all the Republicans.
It's great.
These people have lost their damn minds.
And by the way, he thinks that undocumented criminal aliens should replace you.
He says it, by the way, right here.
james talarico
Do you know any undocumented immigrants?
unidentified
No, I do not.
james talarico
When I was a teacher on the west side of San Antonio, I taught a lot of students who were undocumented.
And I don't want to stereotype, but those students tended to be the most patriotic, the hardest working students that I had in the classroom.
benny johnson
Okay, got it.
They're more patriotic.
The undocumented, the criminal kids, the criminal, I mean, they're like, some kids do come over.
Some parents literally just throw their kids over the border.
But the undocumented kids mean that they were dragged here with their parents.
Their parents are criminal aliens.
They broke our laws coming here.
And he's sitting there saying, oh, well, the Texas taxpayer should just educate them on our dime.
And they should be living in a home that should be, they're occupying a home, a job.
They're not paying taxes.
A home that, by ought right, belonged to an American.
And shut up.
They're better than you.
Joe Biden said the same line.
Joe Biden has the exact same line.
Our producers are quite busy right now.
It looks like we're going to have John Cornyn on the phone.
Joe Biden's Patriotic Rhetoric 00:16:07
benny johnson
Is that correct?
I'm letting everybody.
I'm sorry, not John Cornyn.
Correction, Ken Paxton running against John Cornyn on the phone.
Team, just let me know.
yeah thank you um ken paxton will be joining by phone yeah Yeah, we're getting our guests set.
Well, I apologize, ladies and gentlemen.
Looked like we had a technical difficulty.
Ken Paxton will be on the phone with us to talk about comments like this from James Tallarico.
Again, this is the man who may well run against James Tallarico.
Atheists are more Christ-like than Christians.
Okay.
And that applies to Muslims and Hindus.
Listen, I have, this is, you know, they can learn a lot.
ken paxton
I have, Jesus.
james talarico
I have met, I have met so many Hindus, Buddhists, Sikh, Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics who are more Christ-like than some of the Christians I serve with in the Texas legislature.
benny johnson
These atheists are more Christ-like.
Well, what exactly is Christ-like to a guy like James Tallarico?
Christ isn't real to James Tallarico.
You know this because the practice of Christianity, the actual basement structural beam that holds the entire faith up, is that Christ is the Son of God, the way, the truth, and the life.
And nobody comes to the Father except through me, the Savior.
All salvation, the conquest of death itself, flows through the blood of Christ.
Christiandum, the kingdom of Christ, is built, of course, upon this truth.
So no Christian, I mean, that is the fundamental truth, that God's Son came to this earth to die for us to be the eternal savior.
That is Christendom distilled completely.
That's it, the core of it, center.
If you can't say that and you can't affirm that, and it's not up to me, the judgment of souls, I'd be very wary for people that try and do this.
But if you can't say that, then prima facia, you're not a Christian.
Because just based on the reality of what the faith is, you're just not a Christian.
And James Tallarico doesn't say that when asked.
Here we go.
unidentified
How do you think about the competing claims of different religions?
rep steve toth
Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions?
unidentified
Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs that they're incompatible with each other?
james talarico
I believe Christianity points to the truth.
I also think other religions of love point to the same truth.
I think of different religious traditions as different languages.
So you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup.
And you could call it a cup in English.
You could call it something else in Spanish and French.
But we are all talking about the same reality.
I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us.
But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways with their own symbol structures.
And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism.
And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos.
And that truth is inherently a mystery.
benny johnson
Spoken like a demon.
Thank you, Klein.
Spoken like a demon.
What is the nature of Satan exactly?
Well, we know that Satan was cast down, that he was a very powerful angel, cast down because he wanted to be God.
He refused to accept God's way and order.
Okay.
What is the X?
How else is he described?
Well, he prowls around like a roaring lion, looking to steal, kill, and destroy.
That's the nature of Satan.
And in this answer, what is clearly platformed by James Tallarico is the desire to steal, kill, and destroy.
Christians.
Christians.
This is an attack on Christendom.
Ethan Klein asks, what is a totally fine question?
Is Christ supreme?
Is what he asks.
Is Christ the Lord?
And James Tallarico gives this mumbling soup that says actually all religions are the Lord.
All religions point to the same truth, which is a total mystery, and none of us know what the answer is.
Nope.
Every Christian knows what the answer is.
Christ is king.
I tweet it every morning.
Christ is king.
I say it every morning in order to center myself because that is the only truth.
That's it.
That's all you have.
It's a very simple answer, honestly.
Just like how many genders there are.
Is the sun hot?
These are simple answers, but you don't get the simple answer.
You get a mealy-mouthed, slithering word salad from the snake.
God doesn't want you to eat from the tree because it'll make you wise.
That's why he doesn't want to eat that.
Yeah, it's always the same stuff.
So, no, like if you can't affirm the basic tenet of Christianity, the only thing that makes Christians different from every other religion, then I would argue you're not a Christian.
Be happy to make that argument.
So come at me, bro.
Dude.
Oh, man.
This is an absolute, just an absolute mess.
Checking in with my team here to see if Ken Paxton is rocking and rolling.
We always hate it when we have technical difficulties.
It is what happens.
We have a live show.
We never do pre-records.
We have a live show.
And it looks like we are ready to go.
Okay, fantastic.
Fantastic, ladies and gentlemen.
Ken Paxton, ready to rock and roll.
Please, well, welcome the attorney general of the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, to the show.
I just want to put up, hey, Ken, and, you know, welcome back to the program.
I know you joined us a week ago for the State of the Union.
It was awesome to see you, man.
ken paxton
That's great to see you, too.
It was really great to see you.
benny johnson
I want to put up one tweet from your potential opponent, James Tallarico, here.
It's a photo of a Dr. Fauci doll, and he's thrilled to be getting this for Christmas.
And he's going to play with his Dr. Fauci action figure.
And if you are, in fact, standing across on a stage from James Tallarico in a debate, perhaps you could ask him where's your Dr. Fauci action figure?
unidentified
Wow.
ken paxton
All I have to say is, wow, that's very shocking.
Given what Dr. Fauci did to our population, it's pretty shocking that he would be happy to have that as an action figure.
benny johnson
To venerate Dr. Fauci is all you need to know, but we've spent the entire show, Mr. Attorney General, going through some of the most disturbing things about James Tallarico, which it's amazing to see.
The Dr. Fauci action figure is actually one of the more moderate stances.
James Tallarico has some pretty disturbing beliefs.
He doesn't know what gender he is.
He believes there are six genders.
He believes that God is non-binary, that Jesus wants to trans the kids and wants abortion.
How does that work when it comes?
How does that work in a state like Texas?
What if Texas, is that what Texans believe?
ken paxton
I know very few Texans that would agree with that.
Those are all pretty out there beliefs, and they don't match the core values of Texas.
I already know that.
I've been here since I was 18, and I certainly know Texans pretty well, given that I've been in office and been around this state for decades.
benny johnson
Okay, so it's going to be a while.
You're headed to a runoff with John Cornyn.
Congratulations.
He did great in the election.
I want to ask a couple more Tallarico questions, but I guess the big question that a lot of people are wondering, Mr. Attorney General, is what will happen if President Trump endorses?
He's asked for all the other candidates to drop out.
Will you do that if President Trump endorses your opponent, John Cornyn?
ken paxton
Look, I think that this people of Texas deserve a choice.
We've had John Cornyn in office for over four decades.
I was in college and I'm 63.
He's been in office since I was in college.
He's been representing us in the Senate, but he's not done it well.
And when I've asked Texans, every stop, whether it's one person or 5,000 people, I've asked this question, can you name one good accomplishment of John Cornyn in the last, let's go back 40 plus years, and no one's ever given me an answer.
Even his supporters cannot name one good accomplishment.
We have many bad ones, including opposing President Trump on many, many of the issues like the border and amnesty and even his own election.
So, no, I'm going to give people in Texas a choice.
The people in Washington can have their own opinion.
The president can have his own opinion, but I've been in this race for almost a year and we're going to win this race in the runoff.
benny johnson
Yes.
So do you have any indication that President Trump might endorse you?
I mean, do you think that, you know, have you been in communications with the president?
ken paxton
Well, I know that John Cornyn has suggested that Susie Wils, his chief of staff, is behind this.
I don't know what's true or not true.
We just had the election a day ago and I'm out pushing for my support because my opponent got just got done spending close to $100 million and I spent $5 million and I was within a point.
So my goal is to step that up because I really believe if I can get my message out about me and him, the truth, not his fake messages that he ran for the $100 million, but the truth will make up that one point relatively easily along with Wesley Hunt's votes moving my way.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
So have you spoken with Wesley Hunt?
He's obviously a friend of the show as you are.
Have you spoken with him?
Do you think that Wesley Hunt will endorse you?
Wesley Hunt, I think that 14% is totally like respectable showing for him.
He's a young, you know, he's a young, he's a younger, you know, obviously a younger candidate as a really bright future, whatever he decides to do.
Have you spoken with him?
ken paxton
Yeah, I called him the night of the election.
He and I had the same purpose, which was to defeat John Cornyn.
I never, I didn't, I got in the race, you know, April.
He got in October.
We had the same goal.
And I didn't even know Wesley was going to run until he got in.
So my goal was to defeat John Cornyn.
His goal was to defeat John Cornyn.
So I think we're on the same page there.
It's certainly up to Wesley to make that decision.
I asked him for his endorsement and, you know, he's got to make that call.
benny johnson
What will be your message to Texans now moving forward to this May runoff?
ken paxton
Well, one, the main message is, look, we've had 40 plus years of this, 24 years in the Senate, where we have a guy that doesn't answer to us.
He answers to Mitch McConnell.
He answers to the Washington swamp.
He doesn't represent us.
He's fought.
He sided with Joe Biden to restrict the Second Amendment.
He sided with Joe Biden to bring in Afghan refugees who we did not vet that may not be friendly to us.
He fought President Trump on the border wall, and you can see the clips.
You can go out and look at him yourself.
He has pushed amnesty his entire career, and he has been behind this massive budget increase when he got there.
It was 6.2 trillion.
Now it's 38 trillion.
And he has not been a friend of President Trump.
No matter what anybody says, you can go back in 2016 and look.
And he said that President Trump was an albatross around Republicans next.
Said the same thing about me.
In 2024, he said that he was not supporting Donald Trump because his time had passed.
So this is a guy that does not represent the values of Texas.
And why should we put up with this in Texas?
We need somebody who represents us, who will take care of us, and who will represent us in Washington in a way that we like.
benny johnson
Yes.
I mean, you make a fantastic case there.
I'm no fan of John Corny at all.
I couldn't believe how bitchy he was on social media.
I mean, like, he attacked us.
Like, it was like 2022, and we were just kind of reeling from this Joe Biden administration.
And he and his staff were attacking us online.
And I just couldn't believe it.
I just like, wow, this guy does not have any tie-in with the base or the American First Movement.
So I'm like, I encourage, you know, and I'm like there with you.
I don't do think that the question, of course, lies to who is the best to defeat James Tallarico.
This guy is like an more radical than Ilhan Omar when you actually go through and look at his positions.
Do you agree with that?
ken paxton
Oh, I absolutely agree.
I haven't focused on him as much as I have winning this primary, but one, what has he accomplished?
He's relatively young.
He's running for a really big position.
What has he shown us to deserve to be there?
And all we know are these really radical positions, but he's not accomplished anything.
He's not delivered for Texans yet.
And so, you know, I don't think he's worthy of being elected, whether he was a Republican or a Democrat.
I'm not impressed.
benny johnson
Okay.
So he says that there should be a welcome mat on the Texas border for all criminal aliens.
This is one of the more wild claims.
But since you spent so much time, Mr. Attorney General, on the border and has been a key issue for you, your response to that.
ken paxton
Well, I actually sued Joe Biden over that very issue.
As shocking as it is, Joe Biden pushed to bring illegals here that had committed crimes, and we sued him over that direct issue.
I think it's hard to fathom an administration or a candidate, especially from Texas, promoting, welcoming illegals generally, but it's, I don't even know what to say when you say you want criminals here.
That's how is that beneficial to my citizens?
I can't, I don't know a single Democrat or Republican that wants criminals being allowed to come into our country.
Makes no sense because those criminals will affect all of us, whether what doesn't matter what party we're in.
benny johnson
Yes.
I mean, obviously, this is like, this is like really clear to anybody who's seeing it.
And it's like been kind of scary.
Maybe like a parting thought here, Mr. Attorney General, on what the left's plans are for the state of Texas, because it does seem like as Texas goes, of course, the nation goes.
If they're able to flip Texas purple or blue, then a Republican can't win really nationwide.
That seems to be their aim.
And Tallarico seems to be somebody that they've been grooming for this for a long time.
And you would know it better than anyone.
What are the plans and the schemes that the left has for the state of Texas?
ken paxton
Well, there's no doubt if they want Texas.
Left's Plans for Texas 00:02:40
ken paxton
If they can take Texas, then they will change our election laws just like they have in California, just like they have in New York, so that all kinds of mail-in ballots get sent out.
There's no photo ID.
And it's easy to, it's really hard to ever get it back once they control it.
That is their goal.
So they will do, they will stop at nothing.
They will spend, you know, literally hundreds of millions of dollars to try to win these races because they know once they get control, they're going to change.
They're going to seek to change the election apparatus.
And then we're done.
We will not have free elections.
We will not have fair elections.
And then we'll never be able to compete again on the national level, which means our country is controlled by one party.
That is their ultimate goal.
One party control of this nation.
They are working their way methodically to get there.
They've done it in California.
They've done it in New York.
They've done it in Illinois.
They've done it in Connecticut.
And they are trying to control the country with one party.
benny johnson
I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean, it's pretty obvious.
They make that play and they literally tell you what they do.
They used to be a little more subtle, Mr. Attorney General, but now they're pretty on the nose about what they plan on doing.
So we got Dave Beto 2.0.
And maybe if you don't mind, just like one more minute here, a takeaway on these tweets.
This is the stuff that frankly blew my mind.
And I just don't know how you go out to the Texas electorate and run when you hate white people so much.
He clearly hates white people.
James Hallarico is saying that white men are a virus, that his whiteness is a virus that is contagious to other people.
He goes on and says that white men are the biggest threat to the entire nation, that white men are the single biggest problem in all of America.
And then he has these other muling and bitching quotes about how much he hates his own white skin.
What is your response to this?
ken paxton
My response is if he believes that, why the hell is he running?
I mean, I don't even understand why he's qualified to run.
He just qualified himself.
I couldn't disagree with him more.
I don't think skin color should be a measure of character.
Martin Luther King would have disagreed with him greatly.
And any of our great leaders would have disagreed no matter what their skin color.
It's not based on skin color or hair color or eye color.
It's based on character.
It's based on how you treat people.
It's based on your belief system and how you implement that.
I could not disagree with him more.
benny johnson
Yeah, you're exactly right.
It should be disqualifying.
It is like exactly what you see in, I don't know, South Africa, like the kind of language you see in South Africa, right?
Exposing Claims of Sexual Harassment 00:15:45
benny johnson
Before things go horribly, horribly wrong.
Okay.
Well, thank you for your clarity on all of this.
Mr. Attorney General, you've always been a friend to our show.
We obviously endorse you completely.
We're excited and encouraging of your race.
And we look forward to helping you.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen uh, please follow the attorney general here.
You know him well, been on the program a lot.
He's got 500 000 subscribers here on x.
UH, fight with people who are fighting for us, godspeed.
unidentified
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unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
We have the great Nancy Mace on the program, locked and ready to go.
Yes.
Yeah, fantastic.
She's been making a lot of news.
Bowl in a China shop, I guess, right?
And I say that as lovingly as possible.
And here we go.
nancy mace how many different metaphors Bowl in a China shop.
I don't mean to call you a bull, but like, that's what you've been doing with the Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton testimony.
It's been incredible.
Now this sexual assault, like vote, it's been humiliating, frankly, for Congress.
You're just on a, you're, you're on it.
You're on a warpath, Congress.
nancy mace
You're on a warpath, Benny, and nothing is going to stop me.
And in fact, on that shameful vote on the floor, and thank to, thank you to Lauren Boeber, Tim Burchett, Nana Paulina Luna for having my back on that.
But both Republican and Democrat leadership whipped the vote against disclosure of sexual harassment files by members of Congress.
So the two-tiered system of justice, you know, the rich and powerful and politically connected, there's a tier for them, which is skate away, just like Epstein.
And then, you know, there's a justice system for everybody else.
You would never be able to get away with that in the private sector or in the rest of America or in middle America.
You'd be fired.
You'd be excommunicated.
You'd be shamed out of your community, your church, whatever.
But in Congress, just sweep everything under the rug, hide it.
And I don't want to hear a word from any of those members of Congress, right or left, that voted to hide sexual harassment files.
I don't want to hear Jeffrey Epstein's name come out of their mouth.
They don't get a say anymore.
benny johnson
Such a great point.
I wish you'd forced this vote earlier in the last summer, frankly, to just prove what frauds all these people are.
Can you talk me through this and our audience through this?
As I understand it, there is a special slush fund in Congress that is funded, of course, by the taxpayers, not by the members of Congress, right?
That pays out, I don't know, at least millions of dollars.
Millions of dollars for sexual harassment claims to get people to go away.
It's all done under the table.
The public never hears about it.
And a lot of these claims are very legitimate.
I think we have like members of Congress die every once in a while.
And then you find out these grotesque stories about them.
Who was it?
Who was the like member of Congress that just died?
And he was like, he was like wandering around with his pants off, like in his office.
nancy mace
Who was that?
benny johnson
Yeah, no, I just wanted to drop my memory.
But yeah, like we're finding that you find it out when they die.
But they're like, I mean, this is a sick system.
nancy mace
Yeah, I found out one a couple of years ago wanted to impregnate his female employees.
Like, like not by like, you know, like by like a, you know, injection or something, right?
Or IVF, but like literally wanted to have sex with his staff and impregnate them.
And like we voted to hide those files.
Like, what are you even talking about, right?
And so there's, it's actually two parts.
So the first part is exposing the claims of sexual harassment by members of Congress.
That's was step one through the ethics committee.
And it just got hidden yesterday, that vote.
I did a separate vote or a subpoena for information on the slush funds on the oversight committee because that was the only way to really get at it.
And we did that yesterday.
A lot of members, mostly Republican, by the way, tried to stop that vote from passing by just making up excuses and that sort of thing, but it did pass.
And so we will at least get the financial information via subpoena from the workplace rights office up until 2018.
After 2018, the law changed where members, if they are caught sexually harassing somebody else, they have to personally pay back the fund.
But generally speaking, almost every member who's had to do that has retired or quit Congress so that the information doesn't get out.
And that there's never any conclusion in Congress that then can be sought after or released.
And so the files will go up to 2018.
And we're talking about in some years, three, four, $5 million a year.
Now, out of that slush fund, it's not just members of Congress.
There are government employees, federal employees at the Capitol who have been forced to pay out.
The government's been forced to pay out those funds as well.
So it's not just like members of Congress.
Others have been as well that are federally employed up here on the Hill.
But I made a special point to reject the names of victims and witnesses and that sort of thing.
And it almost didn't pass yesterday, but we got it through.
unidentified
Wow.
benny johnson
What's, I mean, like, what does it say to the American people?
You know, when there is this kind of slush fund and when so many members of Congress, I know that the vote wasn't particularly close.
It's kind of like extremely sad, but I know that there were hundreds and hundreds of members of Congress that voted against releasing the information here about the private sexual harassment slush fund.
nancy mace
Over 300.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
What does that say to the American people exactly?
nancy mace
Well, it's well, number one, it's shameful.
Number two, it tells you the American people that Congress is full of it.
Third, it tells you that there's a two-tiered system of justice, one for the elite, politically connected, and one for everybody else.
And that, and that's wrong.
Like the sunshine is the best medicine.
It's the best disinfectant.
I'm here to turn the lights on.
And, you know, regardless of where the chips fall, you ought to be able to know what your member of Congress has been doing in their spare time.
benny johnson
Yeah.
I do not.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
There it is.
Look at that.
The exact same time.
Okay.
Democrat Representative John Conyers.
Most of his staff has seen him in his underwear, according to their aides.
Here we go.
Most of us have seen him in his underwear.
The article, I'm not going to read it to you, Congresswoman, obviously.
I know your time is very valuable, but the article goes on to say that he's just constantly wandering around in his underwear, like sometimes without any clothes on at all, like walking around in his office, half dressed.
And he'd call people in to like, to like, he'd call like young female staffers in and like not have any clothes on.
nancy mace
That is, that's horrific.
benny johnson
That's what he was doing.
nancy mace
Yeah, that's horrific.
That's disgusting.
But that's the kind of thing that sometimes goes on up here.
And, you know, there was a rumor yesterday, and I don't want to see the pictures, but, you know, alleged very inappropriate photos of Tony Gonzalez that are floating around there.
And this guy's just being defiant.
And that young lady like literally offed herself, killed herself in the worst way, the most famous way, setting herself on fire and just being defiant about that.
And we've got to be able to police our own.
Like if we want to instill trust in the institution, trust within the Republican Party, because my biggest concern is what happens in a post-Trump world?
How do we continue to build the party without the leader of the party?
Because he's been so good about bringing us all together.
We have to reinstill trust in our institutions, trust in our party.
And we don't do it by hiding things from the American people, regardless of the outcome.
We are better off taking responsibility for our own because then we can go after the Democrats and we can go after the outrageous and egregious behavior of the left because we've ourselves cleaned up and policed our own.
But nobody sees that long-term play here.
And I think we have to be very cognizant.
I just listened to you talked about, talk to Ken Paxton.
I mean, thinking about the long-term, where do we go from here?
If we let Democrats get away with certain things, we're never going to have the same country you and I grew up in.
And this is a spiritual battle.
It's a battle between good and evil.
And there are evil forces up here that are whittling away at democracy, at our republic, at our freedoms and our liberties, and even at our principles.
And it's wrong.
benny johnson
It's totally wrong.
You talk about very, uh, very risque photos floating around.
It's going to be hard.
nancy mace
You know, there's someone who's allegedly.
benny johnson
Allegedly.
Now, you talk about these risque photos floating around.
You floated one right in front of the nose of Bill Clinton.
And this is the most viral clip, I think.
And we track these things pretty closely.
But your line of questioning was clearly the most viral with Bill Clinton.
You were, you were, and with Hillary, I think she lost her mind.
But here you have Bill Clinton straight up gooning.
I just can't believe it.
I mean, he was having a time of his life.
It seems like he was reminiscing.
I don't mean to make light of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
But his lawyer, I mean, it's remarkable.
His lawyer had to snatch the photos back as Bill Clinton chuckles and dreams on as he looks at the hot tub photos of his.
nancy mace
He's drooling there.
He looks like he's drooling.
benny johnson
What's going on here, Congresswoman?
unidentified
Please.
Yeah.
nancy mace
And the thing is, too, like when he was talking about the women in the hot tub, he was just basically like, oh, I didn't know who any of these people were.
You're literally the president, former president of the free world of the United States of America.
And you're telling me your secret service is just going to let you get in the hot tub with anybody.
That person's been never been vetted.
And by the way, I don't believe it was the hotel's public pool.
I didn't realize this till after, but that pool that he was talking about was part of the private suite I believe he was staying in.
So I just, there's, it's just so much overwhelming.
And then to deny that he was potentially a target of a honeypot operation or intel operation with a guy who was likely with Mossad, CIA, KGB, NY6, you know, all the things.
It's just not believable.
And we, we did get Hillary and Bill.
And I believe I got that, but got both of them testifying falsely.
And they both pointed the finger, like one blamed the other over Ghelane Maxwell visiting their home.
She blamed Bill and Bill blamed her.
And that was false testimony, I believe, but you know nothing's going to happen from it.
Nothing.
So, you know, I think it's important that we get all the information, the truth out there.
The American people can judge for themselves.
And you can see how fake this whole thing is.
But the funniest part of that, and it's not really, it's not obviously funny, but it was hysterical to watch his attorney snatch the images out of his hands because he's literally drooling, right, over those images.
And then Hillary's screaming at me, becoming unhinged, totally unglued.
I never had that on my bingo card, but it was one of the most gratifying experiences of my life.
I checked that box on the bucket list.
I thought she was going to come across the table.
I mean, honestly, she was totally unhinged.
benny johnson
We have the footage playing right here, Congresswoman.
Please, like, you know, you got we just like, we just hope you don't wind up in federal lockup one of these days with the red light on the camera going off in your cell because you saw the rage.
I mean, you saw it.
You were able to elicit it out of Hillary Clinton by asking this series of questions, which seems extremely logical.
And if you don't mind, I'll just set you up here.
Inside of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, there is a clear and obvious pattern in dozens of emails that he knew Hillary Clinton personally, that he had physical contact with Hillary Clinton.
I don't mean in a sexual way, but that he knows what she looks like up close and personal.
He's able to book dinners with her.
He's able to go to fundraisers with her.
And so for Hillary Clinton, and this is what you were asking, how can you claim to not know Jeffrey Epstein when he claims to know you?
unidentified
Right.
nancy mace
And she also, I believe, falsely testified.
This is where I caught her.
She testified earlier in the day that she didn't seek out funds from Jeffrey Epstein.
Well, then I pulled out the emails and this is where she came unglued.
I pulled out the emails where it showed an individual, Howard Lutnick, by the way, who was seeking funds on Hillary's behalf from Jeffrey Epstein.
And that would happen over and over again.
And we learned too that like Bill Clinton never sent an email, didn't text, didn't make, didn't do phone calls.
His staff allegedly was on his email doing the emails and making phone calls and texting and et cetera.
But they had these intermediaries so that they could say with impunity, oh, I never reached out to Jeffrey Epstein or anybody, but they had other people doing it for them, it appears in their testimony, which is why I say I caught her and Bill falsely testifying in that deposition.
benny johnson
You can tell a lot about somebody, you know, if you press them on the right issue.
It's human nature, right?
If somebody says, you know, hey, Benny, you have like a bunch of bodies buried in your backyard, I'll be like, get a shovel, right?
I'll go dig with you.
What are you talking about?
That's insane.
I'm not a serial killer.
I'm just not.
I know I'm not a serial killer.
But if I, if I was, you know, you start to sweat.
You start to worry.
You know, it's human behavior, right?
Like you don't freak out if somebody is clearly making up a lie about you.
The Clintons freaked out here.
They were clearly unhinged.
The Hillary Clinton screaming at you is like an unhinged level of behavior.
What does it, I mean, what does it tell you, Congresswoman, that like she reacted in such a violent, I mean, we have it on, we have it on here.
I mean, we've never seen Hillary.
We've all supposed Hillary was this level of like maniacal, but like you actually proved it, right?
With your questioning.
nancy mace
No, it really, clearly it touched a nerve.
Clearly she was sensitive to it.
And clearly, I believe she saw that she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar.
And, you know, when you get in front of these people, I mean, they spend millions of dollars to prepare for the hearings or testimony or depositions, and they're prepared for the hardest, toughest questions.
But when you pull them logically through, like anybody would, just with common sense, you know, I didn't go to law school.
I didn't go to Harvard or Yale.
I didn't do any of that.
I missed this girl from Goose Creek, and I'm just using.
American logic because I read what people say and I pay attention.
I take notes on what the American electorate is looking for and interested in.
And you just pull them through logically with common sense and they're not ready for that.
I mean, they weren't built for that.
And then they just, you know, they just fall apart.
And it was a crushing defeat because we all know what she was like.
And she tries to hide behind a cover of professionalism in public.
But when you get at it and you show the testimony and the sensitive nature of it, I mean, she was off the rails.
Like, I know that I can be intense, but I've never seen anything like that before.
benny johnson
Yes.
So, Congresswoman, you say that you caught them in lies.
Could you elucidate for us what those are?
nancy mace
Well, the false testimony that I saw in Hillary's case, for example, she denied that she sought out funds from Jeffrey Epstein, yet there were all these middlemen and women that were seeking out funds for her from Jeffrey Epstein.
False Testimony Revealed 00:02:06
nancy mace
That was one.
She denied knowing anything about Ghelaine Maxwell coming over to the home.
But when I asked Bill, he said, well, that would have been for Hillary and her Senate run.
That would have been related to her, right?
And she pointed to him.
Hey, just go ask Bill why Ghelene was there, right?
And so to catch them in that false testimony, and I even asked Bill, I was like, did your wife falsely testify or did you falsely testify?
And you saw their attorneys just dive in completely and would not let him answer the question because he couldn't speculate on his wife's testimony, right?
But they were testifying sort of against each other.
So one of them was, one of them wasn't telling the truth.
So which one, which one was it?
And in Ghelene's own testimony from years ago, years ago, she admits just popping over, just popping in.
And she was invited to their personal home.
I don't get invited to any president's personal home randomly.
unidentified
Nobody does.
nancy mace
They don't pop in.
You have to be cleared by Secret Service.
And in the wedding photo you're showing right now, Ghelene Maxwell conveniently was a plus one of one of their one of their guests.
And it was a small wedding.
And you can't mean to tell me the former president of the United States doesn't vet anyone like on the planes or at events or in pools.
Like that's just, that's not how it happens.
They're trying to keep him alive and keep him safe from any enemies.
Sure, they get death threats on a daily basis, but and there's got random people show up at your daughter's wedding.
And they knew about Epstein and Ghelaine in 2008 and she shows up at the wedding.
Like you weren't, you didn't even talk to your daughter about the number one best friend of Jeffrey Epstein after he was became a convicted pedophile.
Like maybe your daughter shouldn't be hanging out with his friends.
You didn't even have that conversation with your daughter.
Like I just, to me, it was just totally unbelievable.
I'm just using Goose Creek logic.
South Carolina, common sense, like that's all you have to do with these people because they're idiots.
benny johnson
They are idiots.
That whole, like, I've been to the White House.
You've obviously campaigned with President Trump across the country.
You know, you know what it's like to get through a secret service protocol, even as a member of Congress.
nancy mace
I mean, you get scrubbed down.
They look at, I mean, they do everything but get your blood type.
Gold And Truth 00:06:10
unidentified
That's right.
benny johnson
That's right.
I've had to stand on the, you know, everybody who's gone to the White House has to stand on those rubber mats, get sniffed by a German Shepherd.
Like that, you know, everyone except Hunter Biden, you know, had to guess that treatment.
You know, because they don't want to get the German Shepherd high, I guess.
But it's, it's wild that they just think that you're a spring chicken.
They think you were born yesterday.
They think that we're also stupid that the Secret Service wouldn't vet the list of their daughter's wedding to make sure that no terrorist was there.
And I mean, it's just, it is insane.
We're so glad, I guess, that you proved that.
I hope that something happens.
I don't know.
I don't know.
nancy mace
I mean, I'm doubtful.
I mean, this is, I mean, we saw the establishment yesterday.
All they do is protect, they protect their own.
They protect each other because they don't want anybody to get exposed because then it becomes a tit for a tat, which is why I continue to fight harder than I ever have before.
I have nothing to lose.
I mean, they're coming at me with everything they got.
And I just simply, I just don't care.
I just want the truth.
And the American people deserve nothing less.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
I mean, please, you know, please like don't walk, don't walk your dog at night and get a food taster, you know.
james talarico
And I'm happy.
nancy mace
I won't, I have no suicidal ideation.
The tires over my tires are full.
I will not be committing suicide by shooting myself in the back as I hang from a tree.
unidentified
Okay.
nancy mace
That will not be happening anytime soon.
I'm a great mom.
I love my children, putting them through college.
Like it's, I have a great life right now and I'm deeply grateful for it.
benny johnson
An important disclaimer.
We should probably ask our guests to just like come up with a disclaimer like that on these types of topics, just so everyone is aware.
unidentified
I love life.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Well, we can like obviously sense that and we're thankful for you, Congresswoman.
I want to encourage everybody to follow Nancy Mace, who is just one of those fighters who really just doesn't give a damn.
And it's nice to have those, quite frankly.
Maybe in conclusion, Congresswoman, and wow, goodness, you're almost a million subscribers for Nancy Mace.
Almost a million here.
Go follow her.
A closing question.
What will you ask Bill Gates?
nancy mace
Oh, well, I want to know more about the Russian hookers.
And did he really ply his wife with antibiotics in her drinks?
And what did he see?
And when did he see it?
What did he know?
And when did he know it?
Was he the target of an Intel operation?
Was he the target of a honeypot operation?
I think he knows a lot more than he's letting on.
And I'm really grateful to Melinda Gates for providing some of that information in her interview.
But also, Benny, I want to say thank you to you because you've been on the forefront of this.
You've been unafraid to speak the truth.
You've been unafraid to put the information out there for the American people, for MAGA.
And that's really important.
The work that you're doing, you are helping lead the spiritual battle.
We are going to defeat evil with good because of your work, too.
benny johnson
Well, you know what?
The truth is the light.
unidentified
Yep.
benny johnson
And you should never be scared of that.
And so, you know, and frankly, there are bigger things in this life.
Like we are all going to be judged by a righteous God.
And he's not going to ask for a Republican or a Democrat.
You know what I mean?
nancy mace
When your purpose is being fulfilled.
And I see that.
I think a lot of people do too.
And I'm deeply appreciative of it.
benny johnson
All right.
Everybody, follow the great Nancy Mace, ladies and gentlemen.
And here we go.
Thank you.
Thank you. God bless.
A massive shout out to an unsung hero on the program who is Kara Kaplan, who is our wonderful booker and publicist who makes sure that we are able to get such fine guests.
You had the entire slate of every single Texas Republican of note and made a ton of news on this program, along with Nancy Mace, who, of course, is, again, like doing God's work in Washington, D.C. and bull in a China shop, I guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
benny johnson
It's been great.
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, that's our show for the day.
Our, I guess we'll go ahead and check in what the, what do the markets say for the Texas Senate election winner?
Democrat down.
Thank goodness.
Goodness gracious.
This is a tough market.
So what are the, so 70% for Republican.
How will the Texas Senate race go?
We don't have a candidate yet.
It'll be Paxton or Cornyn.
You all know my thoughts on Cornyn.
But it's been a pretty sharp decline over the last couple of days.
Bringing Liberty Light 00:03:00
benny johnson
We're Democrats.
Good.
James Tallarico is a lunatic.
You love to see that.
God help us.
You know what I mean?
Seriously.
God help us.
From Jeremiah, our verse of the day, 10, 2.
Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen.
Be not dismayed at the signs of heaven.
For the heathen are dismayed at them.
Learn not the way of the heathen.
That should have been the title of the show, ALX.
Oh, based on every poor ALX had to go through every James Tallerico clip known to man, poor guy.
Learn not the way of the heathen.
It is heathen, what that guy is.
And we're not going to be like him.
We're going to follow in our faith.
We're going to state clearly and concisely that Christ is king.
That is our faith.
That is what a Christian is.
And I wish you blessings as you head off into your Thursday.
Godspeed.
It's your boy Benny.
March with us on to victory.
See ya.
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Weak beta males who come into contact with this creature will suddenly have the urge to order fresh kale and complain about your diesel truck because Tallerico was bred from the stem cells of the woke mind virus.
He is the most deranged swamp creature ever created.
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