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Feb. 5, 2026 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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SHOCK: The Single Darkest Email Discovered in Epstein Files

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james comer
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ron johnson
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alex jones
infowars 02:01
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bill gates
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donald j trump
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carley shimkus
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DHS Funding Looms 00:02:12
todd piro
Borders are Tom Holman laying out the Trump administration's strategy to cool tensions in Minnesota.
carley shimkus
Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, lawmakers are still going back and forth on that DHS funding.
Lucas Homlinson is live for us in Washington with the very latest.
Hi, Lucas.
lucas tomlinson
Well, good early morning, Carly and Todd, with that looming Valentine's Day deadline over DHS funding.
The Trump administration announcing a pullback of federal officers in Minneapolis after those two shootings and protests that have stretched on for weeks.
While 700 immigration officers are coming out, 2,000 will remain.
President Trump says he favors the reduction.
todd piro
Mr. President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn?
donald j trump
I learned that maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough.
These are criminals.
We're dealing with really hard criminals.
But look, I've called the people.
I've called the governor.
I've called the mayor, spoke to him, had great conversations with him.
lucas tomlinson
On Capitol Hill, Democrats say they want new rules for ICE.
GOP lawmakers are demanding an end to sanctuary cities and legislation that would require proof of citizenship to vote.
No sooner did that short-lived government shutdown end, but Congress now faces that new deadline to fund DHS, which will hopefully be completed by Friday the 13th, adding to the drama.
The top Democratic leaders in the Senate House, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, have a list of demands.
Let's read them.
Targeted enforcement, no masks, require ID, protect sensitive locations, stop racial profiling, uphold use of forced standards, ensure state and local coordination and oversight, build safeguards into the system, body cameras for accountability, not tracking, which the DHS says they're already doing, and no paramilitary police.
Now, Trump's Borders Art Tom Holman says he wants more help from local law enforcement to process illegal aliens, jail for criminal activity, to allow for a handoff at the jail, not have agents hunting them down on the streets.
Chilly Morning Gripe 00:02:25
benny johnson
Okay.
That's pretty good.
The hunters have become the hunted, ladies and gentlemen.
We are back after a very late red eye last night from Nashville.
We had a wild time with Kid Rock and RFK Jr., and we look forward to bringing you spicy Maha content, sizzling steaks, workout videos with RFK and Kid Rock in Kid Rock's Southern White House, he calls it, his giant mansion house there in Nashville.
This has been a project that we've been working on.
The two guys wanted to meet, and we were just there to bring them together.
Okay.
And we're going to be producing an exciting special on this.
And so, you know what?
It's just creating culture.
It does require, however, us to take very late flights.
So please bear with me this morning as I am, I think, perhaps over caffeinated at this point on this very chilly.
How is it where you live?
What's the weather like where you live?
We got the Nashville.
Okay, sorry, I'm just going to gripe here for a second.
You might as well just put up photos, Klein.
We got to Nashville and it was freezing cold.
I mean, it was like the water in the water bottles was ice.
It was like a brick.
It was freezing cold yesterday.
We had a great time.
Warm company, I guess you could say, but whoa, man.
And it is gloomy and rainy, spitting rain and cold and chilly here in Tampa today as well.
And so we are hoodied up and ready to rock on a show that will have the, I guess, the dark and the light.
And that's what we talked about yesterday with Alex Jones.
The darkness and the light.
It is the eternal spiritual battle between good and evil.
And it is a battle that we must win.
It's a battle that we will win because we serve a God that has conquered death that created the universe and can unfreeze frozen hearts like we saw yesterday in Nashville.
Look at this.
Whoa, man.
I just wasn't prepared for it.
It was freezing cold.
So anyway, I hope that you are staying warm and toasty on this beautiful Thursday, February 5th, 2026.
Kamala Inks, surprise announcement.
Kamala Inks Surprise Announcement 00:03:47
benny johnson
Is she ranning for president?
Are we going to get Kambala again?
Please let it happen.
The clip economy needs her.
We must have her.
The wine industry, by the way, is collapsing.
Ilhan Omar is the only person who can make a profit.
And so you got to get Kamala back.
Kamala has made her announcement this morning, and it is so humiliating.
Donald Trump was live just moments ago, or is he live now?
Goodness gracious.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Well, maybe we'll jump right over to President Trump just to listen.
He's been like on a roll this morning.
Goodness gracious.
He must have been talking for an hour.
Chairman James Comer joins the show on a very, very newsworthy show.
And, well, my name is Betty Johnson, and this is the Benny Show.
Let's hop on over to the president here and listen to him.
Perhaps something that we all need, a little extra prayer.
donald j trump
He became stronger than ever.
And reminds us that prayers strengthen, prayers heal, prayer empowers, and prayer saves.
Quite simply, prayer is America's superpower.
It really is a superpower.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
That's awesome.
donald j trump
And it always has.
And it always will be.
benny johnson
Prayer is America's supervisor.
donald j trump
And I have no doubt that with the devotion and patriotism of the people in this room and our friends from all over the world, some great ones right here, we can make our country and the world a safer, stronger, more peaceful, and more faithful place than ever before.
And it's all happening right before your very eyes.
And I want to, again, thank you.
God bless you and God bless America.
Thank you.
benny johnson
All right, so President Trump just finishing up here at the prayer breakfast.
I know we have a couple clips from this.
I'm asking the team for one.
Jamie sent one earlier today.
I don't like sleeping on planes, says Trump.
I like looking out the window looking for missiles and enemies, actually.
Do we have it?
Did he actually say this?
The national prayer breakfast.
donald j trump
All right, here we go.
benny johnson
It's Donald Trump saying he doesn't sleep on the plane.
He's staring out the window looking for enemies.
donald j trump
You can go and sleep.
We have quarters prepared for you.
I said, no, no.
I don't have to sleep.
I've been on a plane sleeping for 20.
I mean, I'm sleeping the plane.
I don't sleep on planes.
I don't like sleeping on planes, you know.
I like looking out the window watching for missiles and enemies, actually.
But he said, so we have a place prepared for you, and we can meet after you've rested.
I said, no, no, no, let's go.
benny johnson
I like looking out the window.
Looking for enemies in Islam.
You hang out a day with Kid Rock and you hang out a day with these guys.
The RFK is the same.
And you realize the country is just run by bros, man.
The country is just run by like good old-fashioned bro energy.
It's just dudes who want to kick a couple doors in and who want to save this place.
It's very inspiring.
I got to tell you, I'm not trying to get too philosophical this morning.
President Trump, though, did do that in his remarks.
We have one more here for you from the prayer breakfast.
Donald Trump having clearly having the time of his life here.
donald j trump
For four years, ISIS rebuilt, rebuilt, rebuilt.
And they have a little bit of ISIS now again.
And we knocked the hell out of them the other day in Nigeria because they were killing Christians.
Voter ID Controversy 00:03:31
donald j trump
You know about that.
They were killing Christians.
You can't do that.
When Christians come under attack, they know they're going to be attacked violently and viciously by President Trump.
I know it's not a nice thing to say, but that's the way it is.
benny johnson
President Trump, ladies and gentlemen, one final clip because we are such a huge proponent of the SAVE Act.
We'll be having two members of Congress on the show.
We're going to be talking to a co-sponsor, co-signer of the SAVE Act, Ron Johnson, here, ladies and gentlemen, in just a moment.
Senator Ron Johnson and Chairman James Comer on the show today, live.
But at President Trump saying we must get this done.
We must pass mandatory voter ID only citizens can vote.
Limit mail-in voting to emergency situations.
Vote on election day.
It is the only way to save the nation.
Truly, the SAVE Act is correctly named the only way to save the nation.
Here we go.
donald j trump
Presidents, they didn't, they bailed out on you.
They bailed out.
They want to be neutral.
They want to be neutral or against.
You know, the Democrats are against.
I don't know how a person of faith can vote for a Democrat.
I really don't.
And I know we have some here today, and I don't know why they're here because they certainly don't give us their vote.
I certainly know that we're not going to be convincing them to vote for a little thing called voter ID.
It polls at 97%.
And even the Democrat, the people, the voters, are at 82% for voter ID, but the leaders don't want to approve it.
They said they will strike.
They will not allow it to happen.
It's polling at over 90%.
It's called voter identification.
When you go to the polls, you show up.
Yes, my name is so-and-so, and I live in the country.
I'm here.
I can vote.
They say that's not allowed.
And everyone's trying to figure it out.
And they do something to win.
You know what it is?
They cheat.
But let's get on to another subject.
At that, they're the finest probably anywhere in the world, I would say.
But we're trying to pass voter ID and other things and other things having to do with your religion.
And getting the Democrats to vote is very, very tough.
But we're grateful to the co-chairs of the breakfast.
benny johnson
All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump pushing hard for the Save Act, as we have been for the better part of the last, well, certainly for 2026 and the end of 2025 as the Save Act began rolling.
Critically important to educate the American people on what this act does.
This act severely limits mail-in voting and electronic voting.
It pushes for paper ballots as a priority mechanism for voting.
It also, of course, limits voting to people on the voter rolls, people who've been registered to vote, and American citizens.
This is also something that is, well, you can't have an actual functional democracy if the citizens are having their votes canceled out by people who are not citizens.
If you are not a person who belongs in this country, then you shouldn't be canceling out my vote or my wife's vote or my mom and dad's vote.
But that is precisely what happens in our election.
It happens at scale, and the SAVE Act must pass.
The SAVE Act must pass.
Zorro Ranch Revelations 00:15:16
benny johnson
There's a way to do it.
And it was enumerated on the show previously today.
And we look forward to, again, beating the pavement on this and getting this done.
Critical to save America.
Can the entertainment industry be saved?
That's a great question from our partner today on the program.
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Okay, so we've been watching the Jeffrey Epstein emails release so that you don't have to because this stuff is extremely dark and we don't really know.
I mean, you know, even with like Alex Jones talking yesterday, I got to be perfectly honest with you and square up with the audience here.
I guess it's just hard to listen to this stuff.
You know, it's just difficult to hear.
And I'm not saying Alex is a liar.
I would never say that.
If I thought he was a liar, I would never bring him on the show.
I think that Alex Jones is one of the people who've been speaking truth about this for longer than probably any single human being alive.
You can go back to clips from the 90s.
Alex Jones putting his entire career and life on the line, going and exposing Bohemian Grove and other nefarious acts of the occult.
The occult is real.
The occult fears only one other religion, and that is Christianity.
The occult doesn't fear Islam, doesn't fear Judaism.
It doesn't fear Hinduism.
It doesn't fear Buddhism.
This is why they're constantly attacking Christian churches, including but not limited to Don Lemon.
It is permissible to discriminate against Christians, particularly white Christians.
I don't think Don Lemon's little antics would have gone over well at a black church in the South.
We've covered that paradigm, but nonetheless, it is permissible for leftists to discriminate openly against white Christians.
And they attack them.
And they attack them out of the evil in their hearts.
Evil is real.
The occult is real.
And what's been exposed in these Epstein emails is satanic practices.
It is sacrifice practices.
I know that Alex touched a lot on it on the show yesterday because he's just, again, the renowned expert.
But I want to like, I felt like on the show today, I didn't do a good enough job.
Let me tell you, man, like interviewing Alex Jones is a.
There is no way to steer the conversation.
You just let Alex go, right?
You let Alex go and you keep sort of feeding the beast, right?
When it comes to Alex Jones.
This is the strategy when interviewing Alex Jones.
He's just been at this for so long.
He's just the granddaddy of them all.
He's also, again, in this Epstein saga, been proven probably more right than any single human being alive, any broadcaster, certainly any streamer.
And so what was his take?
His take was that we finally got him, that we exposed the actual occult, that we exposed these Satanists.
And Alex said it a couple times on the program.
I'm just going to look through the clips here, Klein.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Alex said it.
He talked a lot about occult practices and made some allegations that Jeffrey Epstein was potentially alive, what will happen to the Clintons next.
But effectively saying that Donald Trump, you know, he continued to repeat the line that Alex, that Donald Trump needs to lean in, that he needs to bull rush and storm sort of the gates because he has these evil people on the run.
And we totally agree with him.
But I didn't feel like on this program that I had all of the emails, evidence that's been released to put up on screen to back up Alex's claims.
We're going to do that actually right now.
And we're going to take the moments of clarity from yesterday's show, and we're going to build an architecture around what Alex was actually talking about.
Let's start here with the Daily Mail.
And what is without question the single darkest email, certainly in the actual email tranche from Jeffrey Epstein.
I think that it is impossible to find something worse than this.
There are many very dark and evil things.
This one is bad.
What you see constantly throughout these emails is a theme of rape, torture, abuse, and death.
And that's why it is so imperative that there are arrests that happen here.
That's why it's so imperative that there's a next level, not just these release, not just a bunch of shock headlines, but that like there's another level to this investigation.
That people who were involved or people who were on these email chains get their names unredacted and get brought in for questioning about what exactly did you mean when you were talking about ordering the death of two foreign girls strangled to death with rough fetish sex to be buried on his ranch.
You know, there's a place called Zorro Ranch.
Why don't we get a, why don't we get the actual geographic location?
I want to show, let's show everyone where this actually is.
And according to the Epstein experts that we've been talking to, this is the place where actually a considerable amount or the majority of the evil practices, rituals, incantations, murders, deaths, torture, all of this occurred here at the Zorro Ranch in New Mexico.
Is it for sale?
Wow.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Well, get me the Google Maps, please.
So this ranch, according to the email, let's go ahead and read.
According to the email, this ranch was the location where bodies were buried of two foreign girls that died during rough fetish sex.
Now, this is just, again, this isn't just one email that we plucked out of the 3 million documents, photos, videos that were released by the DOJ.
There is a trend here.
We'll show you the trend.
And it's a tough way to start the day, but it's just, you know, I felt like since we went there with Alex Jones yesterday, we might as well just reinforce this point that what you were fighting is pure evil.
I'm glad that we had Donald Trump in the prayer breakfast actually to start the show off today because we will need prayers for this one.
Jeffrey Epstein ordered the burial of two foreign girls near his ranch where they were strangled to death according to emails released from the latest Epstein file.
The email sent to a person claiming to have worked for Epstein also includes links purportedly showing the late pedophile engaging in sex with the underage girls.
The correspondence was sent to a man named Eddie Argnon in November 21st, 2019, before being forwarded to the FBI with the release as part of the 3 million documents, the Epstein files published at the Department of Justice on Friday.
In the email titled Confidential, Jeffrey Epstein, the person whose name has been redacted, of course, because there's so many redactions, actually, claim to have been there and seen it all and is the staff at Zoro Ranch.
They allege that the girls were buried at the order of Jeffrey Epstein and Madame G, believed to be Jelaine Maxwell, of course, at Zoro Ranch.
The sex offender's sprawling New Mexico property, which has long been reported to have served as one of the private playgrounds for the sexual abuse and trafficking, in an email, they wrote, Edward, this is sensitive.
This will be the first and last email, depending on your discretion.
You choose to take it or not.
This comes from a person who's been there and seen it all.
The material below is from Jeffrey Epstein.
This is my insurance case.
Litigation, no questions.
Okay.
This Zoro Ranch property, the reason why I want to show it to you on a map, let's pop it up.
The reason I want to show it to you on a map is that, well, it's not in Florida, Klein.
It's in New Mexico.
Please get me the Google map of it in New Mexico.
I mean, you can see it here in the photo, is that this is a ranch that was surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of acres of empty wilderness.
This is a ranch that was not accessible, the outside world, where you could literally get away with murder.
Is it less accessible than the island?
Well, I'm not sure.
I think that it's possibly easier to actually boat up to the island.
There's a lot of people that go up and boat up to Jeffrey Epstein's island all the time and go run around.
Lou Krudowski is a friend of the show.
He'd done this.
He just boats up to the island, hops off, and goes and runs around it.
And he's filmed everything.
People have run and filmed on this.
No one's been able to get on the ranch because the ranch is in such a rural and remote location that is utterly inaccessible unless you are someone who is invited.
Okay, so, yeah, okay.
It's a monster ranch that Jeffrey Epstein had.
And if you were looking to get rid of a body or get rid of someone, then this desert, this sprawling desert, would certainly be the location to do so.
Drone footage of the New Mexico ranch, you can scroll down here in the article, shows exactly how utterly remote and destitute the landscape is, with the exception of the ranch itself.
So let's go ahead and continue to read the email here.
So this is the email.
You can see it here.
It corresponds with a considerable number of other emails and documents that show murder and torture of women.
I do find it interesting that they're arranging for one Bitcoin to be delivered to a Bitcoin wallet in order to facilitate all of the evidence.
That's the exact same thing that happened with Nancy, this happening with Nancy Guthrie.
I don't know if you guys are following the story, but it's crazy, man.
Savannah Guthrie's mom just gets like kidnapped and gets, I mean, I know we haven't talked about it on the show, but Savannah Guthrie's mom gets kidnapped and the kidnappers are demanding Bitcoin.
Trump has sent Kash Patel out to Arizona in order to try and figure this out.
The occult is real, is all I'm saying.
And evil is real.
And as a Christian and as a believer, you have to look at it with open eyes and accept that we are in an eternal fight, good versus evil.
You got that video for me, Cline?
Let's see.
Here's the drone footage of exactly how remote this ranch was.
So, why would you need so many remote places?
You know, it really does beg kind of the question, like, why would a Manhattanite hedge fund guy need to be able to truly get off the grid and have such extreme privacy?
And now we know inside of these emails.
They added, what is damning about Jeffrey Epstein is yet to be written.
Did you know somewhere that the hills outside of Zorro, two foreign girls are buried on the orders of Jeffrey Epstein?
They died of strangulation.
The sender also included links to the videos that showed Epstein having sex with minors, threesomes, and underage girls.
Then they demanded payment of Bitcoin for the video, for the full video and information.
The email was forwarded to the FBI three months after Epstein died, Metropolitan Correctional Facility in New York City.
Documents released as part of the Epstein files also show that pedophile financer intended to leave his Zoro estate to his Belarusian girlfriend.
Epstein bought Zorro Ranch in 1993.
The former three-time New Mexico governor was the past owner.
So he bought it from the governor of New Mexico.
Got it.
13 square miles in the high desert, 26,000 square feet.
And it also had a firehouse, horse stable, seven-bay heated garage, a gatehouse to grow fresher produce an airstrip and a hangar and a helipad.
So you could be completely and totally independent and alone in this location.
Epstein owned the property until his death.
His estate listed it for $27 million.
The price was dropped to $18 million, goodness.
And the ranch sold for undisclosed price.
They should really do the subsonic earth-penetrating investigations of the area around that ranch and to see if they find any bodies.
Completely Independent and Alone 00:14:56
benny johnson
Epstein used Jorah Ranch as an isolated getaway playground for VIP guests who were able to come in more discreetly than they could even Little St. James, right?
The most evil things that happened with Jeffrey Epstein happened at this ranch.
Civil filings claim that the compound hosted a former Prince Andrew who was accused by Virginia Roberts, who produced photographs and written statements showing that she visited the compound and was abused there.
All right.
This is what Alex Jones spoke to us about.
Alex Jones noted to us yesterday that this was effectively a cult worship and practice that was going on inside of the Jeffrey Epstein universe.
And this is like all the, I mean, it all sort of locks in, right?
If you're a Christian, if you're somebody who follows Christ, you'll, of course, know the teaching of Christ where he says in very blunt terms, it's better for you to have a giant rock tied around your neck and die at the bottom of the ocean than to harm a hair on the head of a child.
And so if you are harming children, then there is no doubt whom you belong to.
And harming children was a moderate way to say what Jeffrey Epstein was doing.
And so, man, cannibalism, rape, murder, and pedophilia.
And it's all there in the 3 million pages.
They should have cadaver dogs run around this property.
They should have ground-penetrating radar.
Look through the property.
I truly believe.
And that should happen on all of the Jeffrey Epstein properties.
It's a dark world out there.
It's a dark world out there.
Alex Jones says that this was the gateway.
The Bohemian Grove evidence that he uncovered is the gateway to what Jeffrey Epstein was doing.
Here we go.
alex jones
Yeah, Bohemian Grove is kind of a gateway drug.
Most, like, half of them are members, half of them are just guests.
And so it's simulated human sacrifice.
So it's kind of like softcore, you know.
But when you get into skull and bones, you get into all of this.
100%, it's about a predator class that sees people as animals.
And they are recruiting.
I mean, Jeffrey Epstein had Baal or Baal, which was the main god, also known as Molech, but some of the different cultures of the Middle East that they would sacrifice children to.
He had his bank accounts named after this and all this satanic iconography.
So this really is like MS-13 to be a maid member.
You got to torture a kid to death.
People go, that sounds crazy.
Well, that's the initiation of this.
And so it really is good versus evil.
And Trump has to face this.
I know it sounds crazy for a 79-year-old man to come out and say we're facing pedophile Satanists.
He thinks it's bad for the stock market, but they try to connect him to it with no evidence.
Has to go ahead and hammer them.
And I think he said like it three days ago.
He goes, wow, this vindicates me.
It's like, yeah, Trump.
I've studied it.
I've talked to the witnesses.
You're not involved.
So why are you being, he's like, well, it's a big mess and we don't know what to do.
No, you're, they're trying to hang it around your neck because it's what they fear.
Like they say, don't use the military when we're rioting and attacking people.
That's constitutional.
They demonize what they fear.
Oh, don't cover our pedophilia or we'll hang it around your neck.
Don't do whatever they don't want you to do, you should do.
And so this is Trump's chance to finish him off right now.
If he comes out with press conferences and exposes them and talks about it, it's absolutely game over.
I mean, you have the Clintons trying to not testify.
Now they're going to testify.
You have the head of their foundation convicted of smuggling Haitian kids out of Haiti.
You've got him.
benny johnson
What was all this for?
And what happens when Americans realize that our tax dollars went to pay for this?
Check this out.
Speaking of the ranch, the ranch was fun in one of the DOJ documents here.
The ranch was really fun.
This is the Netanyahu document where they inexplicably blur out or redact the photo of Jeffrey Epstein and Bibi Netanyahu.
Look at the top line.
I hope the ranch is fun.
It's the ranch, man.
That's the one that they, that's the one that they went to for the truly evil stuff.
And this redaction of Bibi Netanyahu is completely wild.
It follows, by the way, a trend of Jeffrey Epstein clearly being Israeli intelligence.
They all answer the CIA, I think, but now it is now just completely confirmed that he was Israeli intelligence.
Check this out.
Jeffrey Epstein, joking, I am not Mossad.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, you or I, smiley face, both.
Both of them saying that we are not Mossad.
Okay.
Well, he's emailing with the Prime Minister of Israel, and they're both sending each other winky faces.
It's like out of a bad, it's like out of a bad comedy.
It's like out of a bad script.
Did Jeffrey Epstein commit murder?
Because remember, the allegations here are that two women were tortured, then murdered at the ranch.
Can we find that in other pieces of evidence, right?
Or is this just the one?
It's just like a, it's just like the Trump allegation, right?
And Trump's name is peppered in these things because the tip line, as soon as people realized they could either get money or get famous off this E. Gene Carroll style, they flooded the tip lines with the most grotesque and scurrilous allegations against President Trump.
None of them have been proven credible.
None of them.
And none of the victims had said that President Trump victimized them at all.
None of them.
They have all been live on MSNBC and been asked about this.
Ad nauseum.
Virginia Roberts is a good example of this, saying Trump was the perfect gentleman.
Doesn't say the same thing about Bill Clinton.
But anyway, like the point is that are there allegations that seem to match a pattern?
Yes, there are.
Here's Jeffrey Epstein talking about murder.
No one's going to lie to me and get away with it.
No one.
Whoops is correct.
give you permission to kill him, writes redacted.
Well, what is, I mean, are they talking about this literally?
Klein, I'm going to need this email up.
Yeah.
No problem.
Thank you guys.
I'm going to need this.
Yeah, I'm going to need to ask the question, what do they mean by this?
Hopefully someone like James Comer can ask the question.
Like, do they, do they literally mean kill?
They're also, and let's just, let's just blast through these quickly, but they talk regularly about an escape hatch that was used, and they have photographs of it on Jeffrey Epstein's island.
This was an escape hatch.
There's so many different videos of tunnels from the island.
So many different videos of tunneling under the island.
He's very proud of those.
And in New York City, perhaps in the ranch.
This is one of the photos that allegedly led to shark-infested waters, where according to one of the allegations, bodies were dumped and discarded on Jeffrey Epstein Island.
This is what this hatch door was for.
Torture is found often throughout these emails.
We'll just pop you up some links.
And by the way, the links that I'm sharing, these aren't found on blogs.
These are not found on something that could be manipulated, right, by AI.
This is directly from the documents.
These are DOJ links.
All the links are DOJ links.
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Do you want me to try to do her or just torture her? says Jeffrey Epstein.
I think I'm going to torture her, says Jeffrey Epstein.
Where are you?
Are you okay?
I love the torture video.
Did you torture her?
Goodness gracious.
And then no one will lie to me and get away with it.
I give you permission to kill him.
And there's not a lot of ambiguity in these comments.
There's not a lot of ambiguity in any of this.
And so it really does take a much, it really does require a much sharper look as to what was truly going on here because this is the dark underbelly of this.
It's not just a predator.
It's not just a pervert.
It's not just a bunch of like old, sicko, gross men.
I mean, this is obviously bad, and I want all those guys to be prosecuted.
It's something much darker.
There's something much more evil going on here.
Very few want to get to the actual bottom of it.
My next guest does and is actually doing what I would call the Lord's work on getting the Clintons to testify before his committee, the Oversight Committee, in Congress.
It's a remarkable turn.
I've never seen anything like it.
And also, the Clintons now have thrown down the gauntlet and demanding that that testimony be in public.
And so let's please welcome to the program back our dear friend, Chairman James Comer.
Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for being on the show again.
This is big breaking news this morning.
Hillary Clinton challenging you saying, let's do this testimony in public.
Her post has gone up.
And even though the comments are locked, it's going quite viral.
And so I would love to simply ask, will this testimony be in public, Mr. Chairman?
james comer
It will be public.
We have the video camera, the audio camera, and the transcript.
So everyone in America will see that.
We always release.
I've never done a deposition where we didn't release the transcript and the audio and video.
If we have that, this is a standard congressional deposition, which is what the Clintons agreed to.
And the standard congressional deposition is you are deposed for however long it takes, and it will be recorded, both video, audio, as well as transcript that will be made public.
So it is going to be public.
benny johnson
But it will not be live.
So this will not be live streamed.
james comer
Well, you know, we hadn't planned on it being live, but I mean, we're seeing the legality of that, and it's never been done before.
But look, the Clintons keep moving the goalposts.
In her tweet against me, you know, she's completely dishonest in what she says.
And we're trying to get all the emails gathered up.
We've been negotiating with her attorneys for six months now.
And they are the ones that move the goalpost.
So either Hillary Clinton is being lied to by her attorney or Hillary Clinton just lied.
But either way, the only people that moved the goalpost are the Clintons.
And here they are again, 48 hours after they agreed to come in for the deposition, trying to move the goalpost again for what I think she means is like a public hearing.
And I'll say this.
Look, this is what Jim Jordan did with Jack Smith.
They had a deposition, then Jack Smith said he wanted to go public, and then they had a hearing.
I mean, if the Clintons want to do that, they can do that.
The subpoena that was voted on by Democrats and Republicans, the contempt charges that was voted on by Democrats and Republicans in the Oversight Committee was for the Clintons to sit down for a deposition.
The video, the audio, the testimony will all be made public.
So I don't know why she's trying to say something other than she's trying to muddy the water.
It will be public.
benny johnson
That's a remarkable news that you're breaking here on the show, Mr. Chairman, that the Clintons have lied, that the Clintons have just lied in public.
james comer
I don't think that's new news, but you can use that on any headline.
benny johnson
I think we can use our breaking news.
We just made a new breaking news thinger.
Perhaps we'll use it.
Okay, so Mr. Chairman, I want to take a step back here, put up the commentary from your committee.
Here, Chairman Kumar analysis Clintons cave will appear in depositions.
I've been dying to ask you, actually, about this process because you've been on the show.
You've said the Clintons are balking and you said, I will hold them in contempt.
And you followed through on that.
And you did it in a bipartisan way.
I think you got a half dozen Democrats or more to vote with you on the contempt.
That did not fare well for the Clintons.
They were absolutely going to be held in contempt in Congress, correct?
And that was going to be sent to DOJ.
And so is that the pressure point facing sort of a revolt against their own party, seeing the weakness that they had within their own ranks that finally caused them to break?
Or was there something else, Mr. Chairman?
james comer
So the Clintons have lawyered up.
They have every big law firm in Washington, D.C. representing them.
A couple of their lawyers are former Republican operatives that worked in the speaker's office and at one time for the House Oversight Committee.
So what they were telling them is this is the Congress of the past where there are a few weak need Republicans that won't hold anyone accountable and go ahead and let them vote it out.
They'll never get the votes.
They'll never, you know, not only will they not get any Democrat votes, they won't get any Republican votes.
And what they didn't know is that I've been working very closely on this investigation with the Democrat women on the House Oversight Committee.
And the Democrat women are much younger.
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james comer
I was in college when Bill Clinton was president.
They were in kindergarten when Bill Clinton was president.
And they, you know, they just want the truth.
To their credit, we disagree with the squad and we disagree with the progressive women on 99% of the issues.
But to their credit, Benny, they are sincere when they say, we don't care which political party you are affiliated with.
We don't care if you're rich and powerful.
If you have spent a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, we want to talk to you to find out.
you know, how he accumulated the power and favor and wealth that he accumulated.
So from that standpoint, they grossly miscalculated the reading of the room, so to speak.
And when the Democrats all voted with the Republicans to hold both Clintons in contempt, then they had to come back and they lost all leverage.
So then they agreed before it was a floor vote.
And remember, Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi, they can say whatever they want.
They want justice for the victims.
They told those women on the committee not to vote for this contempt vote before the committee vote.
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Wow.
james comer
And the women on the committee, the Democrat women on the committee did it anyway.
And I think they were, a lot of them were going to do it on the floor.
But they all came to me and said, all right, the Clintons have come back one more time.
They've agreed to come in to your terms.
Now, here's why that's important, because the Clintons would use this in court to say, well, we came back one last time before the contempt vote and agreed to 100% of his terms.
And the chairman, the Republican chairman said no.
They would have used that in court to have gotten to weasel out of being held in contempt.
And we've seen how many court cases the Department of Justice in the last year has lost on technicalities and things like that.
So this is the third date.
And what I said right after that, three strikes and you're out.
So if they blow this off, there's no winning in court.
Not only that, but I think over half the Democrats in Congress will vote to hold him in contempt after they've blown this one off.
So we have been over backwards.
We've never moved the goalposts like Hillary Clinton said.
We've got the emails to prove it.
And, you know, I hope they're not trying to move the goalpost again.
I know they're trying to spin public opinion because they've got all the liberal media saying, oh, Carver's moving the goalpost.
Prove that we moved the goalpost.
We have the emails of the correspondence between my staff attorneys and theirs.
And they're the ones that move the goalposts.
benny johnson
They're up right now, Mr. Chairman.
Can you talk us through these just really quickly?
Because you did release the receipts here.
And could you explain them to our audience?
james comer
Yeah, well, this is what I love.
It's called evidence.
And it's evidence that Hillary Clinton's tweet is accurate.
Now, was Hillary lying or was she lied to by her Republican attorneys?
I don't know, but there's some lying involved in that tweet.
That's a dishonest tweet.
So you can see people can look.
We've scheduled meetings.
We've worked on this for six months, Benny.
Six months.
They would cancel a deposition that they agreed to come to because of a funeral or because of a doctor's appointment.
And we kept saying, okay, we want to work with you.
And then in the end, we had that last date.
This is the last date.
And they blew it off.
And not only did they blow it off, they came back and said the subpoena was unlawful.
They issued, they said that to the New York Times.
They had that hit piece ready to go before they even showed up to blow it off.
And so they're the ones that moved the goalposts.
They're the ones that have been negotiating in bad faith.
And those emails, I invite everyone in America to read those emails and see who's the one moving the goalpost here.
benny johnson
Up on your screen now.
I know that it's not wise to tell everyone what questions you plan on asking, but what do you believe are going to be some of the lines of inquiry?
Obviously, we have roundly praised you for putting up the Clinton hot tub photos and some of the photos of Clinton with Jeffrey Epstein victims in his laps.
These are photos that you had printed out, blown up on big poster boards in this contempt vote and talked through.
These are extremely disturbing photos.
If it was President Trump inside of a hot tub with a woman wearing nothing or virtually nothing, and she's an Epstein victim, it would be, I mean, it'd be the end of the world.
It'd be the new January 6th.
But this is Clinton.
These are real photos.
Nobody disputes it.
What do you expect to find, Mr. Chairman?
james comer
Well, I have to be real careful what I say because the Clinton legal team is watching this interview right now.
I can assure you.
No one's accusing the Clintons of any wrongdoing other than being in contempt of Congress and blowing off congressional subpoenas.
So this is their last chance.
That's the only crime that they've been accused of thus far.
There is evidence that has emerged from the documents, both the documents from the estate and documents that the Department of Justice released in their latest 3 million document dump from last week.
There are documents that suggest that Bill Clinton spent a lot of time with Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, again, there's no documentation that I've seen that would suggest he did anything wrong.
But we know that then Ghelane Maxwell was very close with Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.
In fact, she was, I'm pretty sure, one of the few guests invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
And in some of the documents, Epstein talks about, you know, the help that he gave in raising money for the Clinton Foundation.
Now, we just have basic questions about the relationship.
Did they see anything?
Is there anything that they can give us that would point us in the direction of identifying who the abusers were of these young girls?
Did Epstein solicit money from the abusers of these young girls for the Clinton Foundation?
Were you aware that this was taking place?
And things like that.
This is a serious deposition.
And the goal is not to embarrass the Clintons or get a one-liner in or anything.
The goal is to try to get answers for the American people.
Everyone that watches your show is curious about the Epstein files and who the guys were.
And was it as bad as what the media narratives are?
How did Epstein get his money?
So there's so many questions.
And you can't not include the Clintons because Jeffrey Epstein, according to White House logs, went to the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president.
I'm at the highest levels in Congress.
And I haven't been to the White House more than 10 times in my life.
I don't think.
Epstein went there 17 times when Clinton was president.
And then Clinton flew on his plane, you know, two dozen times.
Now, again, that doesn't implicate Guilf.
It's just like there are pictures with President Trump and Epstein.
And there's certainly no evidence of any wrongdoing there.
Donald Trump has answered thousands of questions.
He'll get questions today from the media about Epstein.
To my knowledge, neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton have ever answered any questions about Epstein.
benny johnson
That's, you know, it's remarkable because you said that on our program a couple months ago, Mr. Chairman, and I said it can't be true.
You know, she ran for president in 2016.
And so certainly somebody asked her.
And we scoured every available record.
And you're exactly right.
There are zero instances.
Bill Clinton was asked one time in a selfie line about Jeffrey Epstein.
We actually have the clip here.
Bill Clinton was asked in a selfie line, and I think it's a clip that perhaps you could use in your committee.
We put captions on it.
We play it regularly.
He says, you know, he's asked about the allegations with Jeffrey Epstein.
And Bill Clinton says this.
I think the evidence is clear.
Well, you're talking, he's telling us to look at the evidence, Mr. Chairman.
And that's speaking your language.
james comer
Yeah, look, I mean, again, there's no question that the Clintons spent a lot of time with Epstein and Maxwell.
Again, that's not an admission of guilt.
All we want to know is any hints, any information that would lead us to be able to hold people accountable who committed crimes.
And, you know, what's disturbing here, when you see Hakeem Jeffries, who I've just grown to detest because he is the most partisan person, most obstructive person in Washington, D.C., the least effective.
I mean, he has lost so many battles in the last two weeks.
I've lost Kemp.
He goes in there and demands to the women, you know, man explains to the women on the oversight committee why they can't vote to hold a mighty Democrat in contempt of Congress, even though everyone else in that subpoena that the Democrats voted for testified.
You think Bill Barr wanted to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee in a deposition?
You think Alex Acosta, who got grilled, and by the way, is not going to fare well at the end of this investigation because, you know, the ball was dropped in Florida.
Oh, yes.
So that, you know, and those are two Republicans, high-ranking Republican officials in the Trump administration that had to sit and answer questions.
But the Clintons, you know, they're so entitled, they think that they don't have to answer questions.
And again, I have been extra careful to never accuse the Clintons of any wrongdoing.
But when you see pictures, when you see emails, when you see, you know, document after document that White House logs, flight logs that show the Clintons spent an enormous amount of time with Epstein, and you can't find anywhere on the internet or in a newspaper where they've ever answered any questions, then the American people have a lot of questions for the Clintons about this, and they should want to answer it.
And they're trying to play the victim card.
They're not the victims, meaning the victims are the girls.
And that's who this investigation is for.
And to the credit of the female Democrat members on the committee, they agree with that.
The victims are not the Clintons.
The victims are the girls.
benny johnson
We've shouted them out before, and we're actually stunned when we saw this be a very strongly bipartisan vote.
And that spelled, obviously, doom when it would go to the well of the House.
And I'm glad to know that our instincts were correct there, that that was the pressure point.
james comer
It is.
And I think that's what's important.
Hakeem Jeffries keeps going on TV and saying this is a partisan investigation.
Remember, this subpoena started from a Democrat motion on the committee.
We weren't, no one told me to investigate Epstein.
That wasn't even on our list.
We're more focused on wage fraud abuse.
The Democrats made the motion.
The Republicans amended the motion.
The Democrats all voted for the names, which included Comey, Merrick Garland, Bill Barr, Alex.
You know, Acosta came later.
But anyway, the Democrats voted for that.
Everyone else has answered questions except the Clintons.
So to say this is a partisan investigation, that's not factual because the Democrats on the committee voted with us to hold the Clintons in contempt even after Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries told them not to do it.
benny johnson
I just have to follow up on one thing that you said in your answer here, Mr. Chairman, Alex Acosta.
Now, I cannot believe that this, I missed this, but I didn't know that you had already deposed him.
And that's, of course, the famous line that says Epstein belonged to Intel.
I was told to back off and he was supposed to be prosecuting Epstein.
We shouldn't be having this conversation.
It makes me quite angry, Mr. Chairman, if I may.
It makes me quite angry because we shouldn't be having this conversation.
Epstein should be rotting in jail.
If he was rightfully charged in 2016 to 2008, and that's, by the way, under a Republican president, with Mueller at the head of the FBI and the DOJ at the time, they were rightfully charged.
If he was correctly charged in that instance, then Jelaine Maxwell, along with so many others, would be in prison for the rest of their lives for a very long time, at least.
And we wouldn't even know the name Epstein, but that didn't happen.
And instead, we get headlines like this.
Can you unpack anything for us on this, Mr. Shannon?
james comer
Well, we made the transcript public with Epstein.
And let me assure you, Benny, that was a hard-hitting deposition from both sides.
It wasn't just the Democrats.
We hit Epstein or we hit Acosta as hard as the Democrats because they did drop the ball in Florida.
And one thing Acosta said in his deposition was, well, he had the biggest legal team in the world.
We thought it was a win to make him have to go to serve some time in prison and to be a registered sex offender.
So that did happen.
He did go to prison for a little while, but he was out, you know, and once he got out, that's when the real bad characters emerge because you could make the argument if you're someone that was friends with Epstein before he went to prison, before he pled guilty for soliciting an underage girl and being a registered sex offender.
You could make the argument.
Well, they didn't know that.
Once they knew that, then there's still a lot of rich and famous people that affiliated with Epstein after they knew the goods on him.
So that's the point where I think the investigation should really focus is who's still associated with Epstein after he got out of prison the first time.
And you're right.
He should have never gotten out of prison ever.
Yes, correct.
And I think one thing that you'll see that should surprise no one, the government did a poor job of investigating Jeffrey Epstein.
I would make an argument that we've probably spent as much time in the oversight committee investigating Epstein and talking to people as the U.S. government did that first time he got convicted.
Now, the second time the pressure was building and they investigated a little more, but a lot of the people that we've already talked to, a lot of people that we're fixing to bring in have never had to answer questions about Epstein.
So these are missing pieces to the puzzle that I feel like we're trying to do on the oversight committee.
And it is bipartisan, despite what the New York Times or Hakeem Jeffries or the Clintons say.
benny johnson
So did he not get it?
Did he not get it?
My team says that he wasn't ever asked about the belongs to Intel in the transcript that you released.
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benny johnson
Did that not happen?
Did nobody say, hey, what do you mean when you say he belongs to Intel?
james comer
I don't recall anyone asking him about that, but I'll have to go back and review the transcript to find out.
We'll get an answer for you.
benny johnson
All right.
You guys can come to our show for any question prep, anytime.
We'd be happy to prep you if you ever call on Bill Gates.
Do you intend on doing that?
You said that there's going to be a delineation of the people who cozied up to him after the sex offender, and that one of those individuals was Bill Gates.
Will Bill Gates get called before your committee?
james comer
Yeah, you know, the interview that Melinda is asking for.
benny johnson
Sorry to interrupt you, but his wife is asking for that.
james comer
And that makes it even more likely that that will potentially happen.
I don't want to do anything between now and February 26th or 27th to jeopardize the Clinton deposition.
Remember, there's another deposition in the Epstein investigation before we bring in the Clintons in a couple of weeks.
We're deposing Ghelaine Maxwell next week.
Now, she's indicated she's going to plead the fifth.
That's the only reason we haven't deposed her any sooner.
But we're going to go ahead and do that.
And maybe she'll change her mind.
Maybe she'll answer questions.
So Maxwell's going to be deposed next week.
That's not been covered very much.
So we've got, and then another individual is going to be deposed.
So we have, prior to the Clinton depositions, we have two more depositions already booked that we're preparing for.
So we're doing a lot in this investigation.
And everyone that every single person of those four that are going to be deposed before February 27th, the Democrats have requested that we depose them as well.
So again, this isn't partisan.
This is bipartisan.
benny johnson
Final quick question.
And thank you for your generous time here and answering all of this.
The audience has been very interested, of course, and very bought in.
Final quick question.
So you're saying that you're open to Bill Gates being called before your committee.
james comer
Well, we could do like Jack Smith did.
Jim Jordan subpoenaed Jack Smith for a deposition.
Jack Smith sat down for a deposition.
Then after the deposition, he said he wanted a public hearing.
If the Clintons want more oversight committee after two full days of depositions, then we'll more than likely accommodate that.
But right now, the subpoena and the contempt was for depositions.
Depositions, you've heard me say a million times, are much more substantive than committee hearings.
Committee hearings are more for entertainment.
Depositions are more for substance.
benny johnson
Yes, I was asking about Bill Gates, not Bill Clinton.
Oh, Bill Gates.
You are open to Bill Gates testifying before your committee.
Melinda Gates is saying he should answer for his relationship with the FCC.
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james comer
We're very open to that.
We're talking with counsel now.
I don't want to do anything or say anything to jeopardize the Clinton depositions, but I would say the odds are good that Bill Gates will have to answer some questions from the oversight committee.
benny johnson
Wow.
And a final warning shot if the Clintons decide to not show up at the end of this month.
That will happen.
james comer
Then I would say a supermajority of Congress will vote to hold him in contempt, and then it'll be turned over to Pam Bondi, just like when Navarro and Bannon were held in contempt by Congress.
It was turned over to Merrick Garland.
And they talk about precedence.
I think Merritt Garland set up precedence for people who defied congressional subpoenas and were held in contempt of Congress.
So after that point, then you need to refer your questions to the Trump Department of Justice.
benny johnson
I apologize that we had so many questions on this, but we have been excited and we've been very proud of you and the work that your committee has done to actually get this over the finish line.
America needs these answers and we'd be thrilled for it to be public or for us to see it.
And so, yeah, I really hope that it can all happen.
And so God bless you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you.
james comer
You will see it, Benny.
benny johnson
You will see it.
Yes.
james comer
It will be made public.
benny johnson
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And that's saying a lot.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
james comer
Thank you.
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And yeah, get started with a little more of a pep in your step, somebody who always brings that pep is the great senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, joining the show live now.
Congressman, we had a scheduling reconnection with James Comer.
And so I appreciate your patience here with us.
Thank you.
ron johnson
Hello, Benny.
benny johnson
Hope you're doing well.
Senator, the SAVE Act.
I mean, I'm sure you have plenty to say about the Clintons being deposed.
I'm sure maybe for the, maybe, maybe you wish you were a House member.
I don't know.
For that, I would love to see you depose, ask the Clintons some questions.
Actually, you're probably the number one senator I would like to see ask the Clintons questions, frankly.
ron johnson
Well, you know, the House Oversight Committee has a much larger staff than we have.
They decided to take this Epstein file investigation up.
I don't like duplicating effort.
And I realize a lot of focus is on the people who associate with Jeffrey Epstein.
My primary question, and I don't know why we can't get to the bottom of this with the Trump administration, is the answer that Acosta gave.
We were told he's part of intelligence.
What does that mean?
Yes.
Again, I think guilt by association is pretty powerful in this case.
These people weren't galvanting with Epstein and not doing things that are certainly untoward.
But how did Epstein ever become Epstein?
Where did he get his money from?
If he was part of U.S. intelligence, to what purpose?
I mean, what was he serving?
Those are the questions I have.
I mean, I've got every bit as much curiosity as everybody else in terms of who all was involved from the rich and famous, but how was he made?
Who is he working for?
What was his purpose in life?
That's really those are the answers I want.
benny johnson
I have a profound respect for Chairman Comer, and we love it when he's on the program.
But my team is, my team scoured this ACASA document and couldn't find the word Intel or intelligence or belonged to Intel at all.
How do you do that deposition without asking him about his most famous quote?
Senator?
ron johnson
I know, again, that's what I'm curious about.
Again, I have such a mistrust of government at all levels, all these agencies.
Again, I've been trying to investigate these folks, whether it's a Republican administration or a Democrat administration.
They do not provide the documents I ask.
I have to subpoena them.
I still don't get them.
What is going on?
I don't know that we'll ever get to the bottom of any of these things.
It's just enormously frustrating.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Mike Benz, who is just an excellent researcher and one of the best.
He used to work at the State Department and so on.
He has great credentials.
Mike Benz has been on this program and has an incredibly compelling case for Jeffrey Epstein working really close with the CIA and or just simply being a CIA-funded asset and operative.
And he brings all the receipts and it makes just really a lot of sense.
And this is how he got his first bags and how he got the ball rolling for becoming the fixer.
And we can see this in the emails that he was fixing security agreements between nations and nation states and tribes all across the world.
You don't do that unless you're working as an intelligence asset.
It's just a matter of fact.
ron johnson
And it shouldn't be that difficult to piece together just his financial backing.
Look at his tax returns.
How did he obtain this wealth that he used in his endeavors?
So again, I'm not doing the investigation.
I'll let the House do it.
But I would just encourage the House to really look at, you know, who is Jeffrey Epstein?
Who financed him?
Who is he really working for?
benny johnson
Yeah.
What just one kind of esoteric question for you before we move off this topic?
What does happen when America finds out that Jeffrey Epstein, who bragged, by the way, bragged in print about being a CIA agent?
That article from the Weekly Standard, we have it.
He has photos now that the government has released inside of CIA evidence lockers with evidence bins marked CIA.
And Jeffrey Epstein is there laughing with what is presumably has to be a CIA agent.
There's plenty of evidence that is right there in front of it.
What happens to the American People Center when we realize that some of these very dark and evil crimes were facilitated or funded by our own federal government?
ron johnson
Well, same question you asked.
We really understood what happened with the JFK assassination.
You can go instance after instance.
It's amazing.
Jeffrey Epstein died supposed to have suicide in federal custody.
It's amazing how many important witnesses died in federal custody.
There's a great book written about the Oklahoma City bombing, Blowback.
Read that.
It opens up your eyes.
Again, you see this pattern repeat time and time again, where you've got government operations that just might have gone astray, resulting in tragedies.
And of course, then the government's got to cover it all up.
So whether you go back to JFK assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, the Garland terrorist attack, I mean, the fellow who carried out the Garland attack, he was basically being groomed by the FBI.
They paid somebody to basically turn him into a terrorist.
Again, I think this has happened time and time again.
Read a good book about Charles Manson.
What about Charles Manson?
Again, I'm going to be accused of a conspiracy theorist time and time again.
It's just that you never get adequate answers to these very legitimate questions.
benny johnson
Yep.
One of the last photos that Jeffrey Epstein, the last photo of Jeffrey Epstein as a free man, he's wearing an IDF sweater.
Okay, got it.
You know, this is a little, it's just a little on the nose.
You know, it's just like, it's just like a little obvious.
It's almost like they're mocking us.
And then Alex Acosta doesn't get asked one time about the Intel comment.
Remark, I mean, utterly remarkable.
Okay.
I'm on a little bit of a kick here, Senator.
I'll tell you, because we had dinner with RFK last night, and he went on and on and on about the evidence, about his father's murder and the evidence that the CIA did it.
And he's done this publicly, but he went into great detail.
And I was, I've never been more blown away.
I mean, I was truly in shock, you know, listening to that.
ron johnson
First time I met him in person, he was in a green room and he was also talking about the time he visited Sirhan Sarhan.
That's when he suggested to me JFK, the unspeakables, the devil's chessboard about CIA.
He kind of set me on this down this path of kind of looking into these very well-researched books.
Again, you don't get all the answers because the government doesn't turn over the evidence.
They always frustrate anybody, any researcher trying to get to the bottom of these things.
They're trying to protect their own institutions.
benny johnson
Yes, yes.
So the institution of American democracy is an institution that clearly can't survive with a bunch of illegals voting and can't survive with illegal voting, even if it is an American citizen voting 20 times with the mail-in ballots they get.
The SAVE Act is absolutely critical.
I know that you are a champion of it, and it's something that this audience cares deeply and passionately about, Senator.
Can you please give us an update on where Thun is on the talking filibuster?
Where does the SAVE Act hang in the balance today?
ron johnson
Well, the good news is that the vast majority of Americans also agree with the SAVE Act.
It's not Jim Crow 2.0.
I mean, that's what the Democrats always trot out because they want to make it easy to cheat in elections.
They don't want to secure our elections.
The SAVE Act is pretty simple.
It just codifies what should be obvious that only U.S. citizens can vote.
You have to prove your citizenship before you register to vote.
And then what's been added to it, the Save America Act now, is also require voter ID at the point of voting.
Again, common sense, 75, 80, 85% of Americans agree that that's exactly what they want because they don't want their legitimate vote canceled out by a fraudulent one.
Now, again, Democrats, even though you have that strong public support for the Save America Act, Democrats will not vote for it because, again, they want to make it easy to cheat.
That's why they flooded millions of people into this country, you know, unvetted, allowing criminals to be part of those, part of that population, flowing into sanctuary cities and states, basically blue states.
They want to count them in the census.
They want to plus up their numbers in Congress.
This is all about the gaining and maintaining of power by Democrats.
That's their game plan.
And if they can, again, if they can get power by cheating, by manufacturing votes, mail and balloting, relaxing rules on absentee balloting, counting ballots a week, two weeks after the vote where it's easier to manufacture ballots, that's exactly what they'll do.
So that should speak volumes.
Democrats want to make it easy to cheat.
Republicans are trying to make sure that only legitimate votes count.
The status of it, Senator Scott, myself, Senator Lee, are going to meet with the president this afternoon.
We met with House members yesterday.
We're trying to come up with an excellent piece of legislation that goes a little bit beyond just the Save America Act.
You know, secure our borders, secure our elections, secure American taxpayer funds, try and institute things that the American people will support in terms of anti-fraud provisions.
So craft a piece of legislation that has broad backing by people across political spectrum, get the president to come on board that, hone that piece of legislation, and then make sure that we've got the votes in both the House and the Senate to pass it.
Once we've established that, again, we're not putting the cart before the horse here.
Once we've established we've got a great piece of legislation that the American public will support, that will be impactful, that will help save America.
Then we determine we've got the votes in both the House and the Senate.
And I think the House, the President can help us get those votes.
Then we determine how do we pass it.
I've agreed with the president about just ending the filibuster because the Democrats are going to do it anyway.
We don't have the votes for that right now in the Republican Conference.
So, what Mike Lee's been talking about is the talking filibuster.
Nobody knows exactly how that would end.
There's all kinds of ways Democrats can throw wrenches in that process.
But at a minimum, we ought to go down that path.
We ought to show our supporters we are willing to fight to save this country.
We are willing to fight and fight hard and work long hours, put the Senate into 24-7 mode to do everything we can to make sure that only U.S. citizens can vote, that we prevent fraud, that, again, we secure our borders.
I mean, there's we have to decide all the elements of the Secure America Act, but that's really the path we're going down.
We're trying to do it as quickly as possible.
benny johnson
Do you believe?
I mean, by the way, I love this tactic because you're finally forcing them to eat it.
Like you're forcing Democrats to defend illegals voting in our election.
It's an amazing tactic that Democrats always use against Republicans in emotional arguments.
Republicans never hit back, and they never just force Democrats to go out and defend the indefensible.
And it's totally different.
ron johnson
If you only hold a single vote on a piece of legislation, then Schumer can get away with saying, well, that's Jim Crow 2.0.
And people believe it because the media will carry his water.
If you actually go to the Senate floor, start a talking filibuster, have the thing go 24-7, day after day after day after day, then the American people come to understand the Save America Act is not Jim Crow 2.0.
It's delivering to the American people what they want: election security, only U.S. citizens voting.
You know, photo ID at the point of voting to make sure that your legitimate vote's not canceled by a fraudulent one.
Again, just a simple vote on a piece of legislation.
That's the way we always do it here in the Senate because it's easy, right?
Oh, well, we made him take a tough vote.
No, you didn't because nobody even knows about it.
You go on the floor for a talking filibuster day after day after day, 24-7.
The American people's come to realize these guys are fighting for something.
They wouldn't be putting themselves through this if it weren't important.
Oh, oh, that's Democrats are opposed to voter ID.
Are you kidding me?
Democrats want non-U.S. citizens to vote in federal elections?
Are you kidding me?
That's how you win the political argument.
You need the public to support it.
And it's going to take something like the talking filibuster to get the American people on our side because otherwise they'll listen to the lies in the mainstream media and the lies the Democrats tell them.
benny johnson
Is Doon going to do it?
Bill Gates Regret Talks 00:07:06
benny johnson
Last question, Senator.
What do you think?
I mean, it does.
ron johnson
Well, again, if we get the president behind this, if we get the American people, if we get our supporters behind this, I don't think my Republican colleagues are going to have any choice other than to say, yeah, let's go down this path.
benny johnson
And the talking filibuster, when that breaks, theoretically, you could get this 50-plus-1.
You could get this passed.
ron johnson
Right.
I mean, we've got a two-speech rule.
If you're on the same legislative day on the same issue, senators get to talk twice.
Now, we'll have a couple of Spartacus in there, I'm sure, that'll try and talk for 20 hours.
Most won't.
Again, this will take a lot of time.
Nobody can predict the end results, but at a minimum, at a minimum, our supporters need to see that we are willing to fight, that we're willing to be there 24-7, do everything we possibly can to secure elections, our border, American taxpayer funds.
benny johnson
Yes.
Well, you know, there's one senator down, which is Maisie Hirono, because she doesn't speak English.
And so I don't think she'd be able to filibuster very well.
We've heard her in committee hearings.
And, you know, so that you already have a great advantage there.
Thank you very much, Senator Ron Johnson.
Always a pleasure to speak with you.
Such a fighter from the great state of Wisconsin.
Ladies and gentlemen, support the senator.
He's got, let's check in here, 700,000 subscribers on X. Make sure you're fighting with the people who fight for us.
Godspeed Center.
ron johnson
Have a great day.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, such a just a wild news day yesterday.
It was crazy to be out, you know, sort of out shooting in Nashville because every time I check my phone, it's like another massive breaking news event.
And there's a reason why we keep asking about Bill Gates is because Bill Gates can't get his story straight.
We'll cover that in just one second.
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Okay, so somebody who should be calling the panic line is Bill Gates.
Bill Gates, I was foolish.
I apologize.
Deeply regrets spending any time with disgraced Jeffrey Epstein and denies he took part in any sexual wrongdoing.
Okay, I got like a couple thoughts off the top of the dome here.
Bill Gates, we have, as a matter of fact, because it's been reported for years now, Bill Gates being blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein, using young Russian women who he was having affairs with.
We know their names.
We have videos of them.
There's photos of them with Bill Gates.
And there's mounds of evidence of this happening.
So again, what you're going to do is you're going to hear Bill Gates lie here in this clip because Bill Gates lies and he uses the same line that all of his PR, the best PR people on the planet have coached him to say, which is, I just had dinner.
They're just dinners.
I regret the dinners.
But it's been well and widely reported that it's more than that.
And we'll cover that in just a second.
Here we go.
Here's Bill Gates yesterday in panic.
Bill Gates back in Australia committing his money to medicine.
But as we sat down, the world was gripped in the latest round of accusations from the Epstein files.
bill gates
Yeah, I met Jeffrey in 2011.
The focus was always he knew a lot of very rich people and he was saying he could get them to give money to Global Health.
You know, in retrospect, that was a dead end.
And I was foolish to spend time with him.
I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him.
benny johnson
Tonight, the demand for answers include from his former wife.
melinda french gates
Those questions are for those people and for even my ex-husband.
They need to answer to those things, not me.
benny johnson
You've no doubt seen the allegations, including some of them from the last 24 to 48 hours.
bill gates
Are they true?
No, apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself.
That email was never sent.
The email is false.
So I don't know what his thinking was there.
It just reminds me, every minute I spent with him, I regret and I apologize that I did that.
benny johnson
The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up in those files has been true.
Why would he do this inside this event, do you think?
bill gates
You know, it's factually true that I was only at dinners.
You know, I never went to the island.
I never met any women.
And so, you know, the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be that although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior.
benny johnson
I never went out.
I never met any women.
Well, okay.
Here's the photos of you meeting the women that Epstein says he blackmailed you with.
This is Maria Antonova.
She's a young Russian bridge player, 30 years younger than Bill Gates.
Jeffrey Epstein allegedly tried to blackmail Bill Gates over extramarital affair.
This is what was happening here.
It's been reported in pretty much every major publication on earth.
Bill Gates has never denied it, but there in that clip, he says, I never did anything.
I just had a dinner.
Well, okay, what about this?
And the reason why this story is important is because what we found out in the Epstein emails is that Jeffrey Epstein emailed himself, which is a very curious thing to do.
If you're somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, you would only email yourself if you're trying to like create a draft of something that you're going to send.
And Jeffrey, if you were planning on hurting Bill Gates, like if you were planning on destroying his career, you just like leak all this stuff to the tabloids.
Jeffrey Epstein emails himself that Bill Gates got an STD from Russian hookers and that he gave that STD to Melinda Gates.
Melinda Gates then divorces him.
Jeffrey Epstein says that Bill Gates was surreptitiously giving drugs to Melinda Gates in order to deal with that STD.
Epstein Disclosures Revelations 00:03:34
benny johnson
These are all available.
You can read the emails.
We have.
And Melinda Gates, quite soon after this, does divorce Bill Gates and then goes on national TV and says that I can't be intimate with Bill anymore.
Okay.
And then just 24 hours ago, Melinda Gates, don't need to play the clip because we're already done on that show, but 24 hours ago, Melinda Gates says that Bill Gates must answer for his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
This is why we're asking members of Congress about it.
This is why Bill Gates should inarguably be one of the next people to come in and have to answer these questions.
It's just dinner.
Will that actually hold up?
Will that excuse hold up?
It's just dinner.
Nobody asked Alex Acosta about Epstein belonging to Intel.
Man, that's crazy.
I'm going to have to think about that one.
Maybe.
Maybe I don't have the same trust in the system.
I'm not sure.
There's one system I do trust.
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We'll end the show on some very, very good news here.
Ryan Ralph in prison for the rest of his life.
You will never have to hear that name again until, well, our God, who is the author of life and death, decides that it is the bell tolls for thee, right?
Ryan Ralph will never see the light of day again.
The man who stalked President Trump with a illegal firearm, was trying to kill President Trump on his golf course.
He nearly accomplished that goal.
He had to be fired upon by the Secret Service.
He then ran.
He was put in, he is sentenced to life in prison plus seven years.
Not exactly sure how that happens.
Again, like, you know, do they imprison his soul afterwards, like purgatory when you die?
Ryan Roth was unrepentant in court, continued to challenge Donald Trump to fights and things like that.
He also tried to, this is something that I find remarkable here.
He tried to get arms from Ukraine.
We went viral earlier last year in showing that the DOJ says that Ralph's own communications, he's trying to get missile launchers from Ukraine.
He was relatively successful in this mission.
He got the Ukrainian, some Ukrainians, to respond to him.
He was going to smuggle him into the country using the cartels and then blow Trump's plane out of the sky.
Ryan Roth tried to kill himself when his sentence was being read.
I hope he rots in jail.
What a dirty scumbag.
We need these people to consequences for these people.
I would very, very much like to see the harshest possible consequences for people that are storming churches, people that are shooting, and conservatives.
The bullets are only going one way.
Kamala's Persistent Ambitions 00:03:20
benny johnson
Will anybody be charged in the Epstein disclosures?
Let's go ahead and ask the market with Polymarket.
I want to end with good news.
This is good news.
60% likelihood that someone will be charged over the Epstein disclosures.
Yay.
unidentified
Good.
benny johnson
Again, this is just the smart money.
These are just odds.
But yay, that would be awesome.
We would love to see it.
We've done our level-headed best on this program to give you the good, bad, and the ugly, to show you what the reality is of these documents and this drop.
And we're not going to back down, even though it may be uncomfortable, or there may be some naughty words or dark topics.
We'll do our best to stare into that blackness and seek truth and light, salt, and light on the other side.
Somebody who's not seeking that is Kamala Harris, who has not launched her campaign for president, but has relaunched a media company for Gen Z.
Okay.
All right.
So everyone thought that Kamala Harris was going to announce she's going to run for president.
And here's the video that she released from Kamala HQ67.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can we do the nuclear crit?
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Kamala, for coming back.
We built this entire, we built an entire universe of cringe stingers and assets and media to play for Kamala Harris.
And they've just been collecting dust.
So here we go.
Nuclear Cringe.
Here we go.
unidentified
Madam Vice President, what's going on with Kamala HQ?
kamala harris
Well, I'm so glad you asked.
I have good news.
So Kamala HQ is turning into headquarters and it's where you can go online to get basically the latest of what's going on and also to meet and revisit with some of our great courageous leaders, be they elected leaders, community leaders, civic leaders, leaders, young leaders.
I'm really excited about it.
So stay engaged and I'll see you out there.
Thank you.
benny johnson
The most remarkable thing about this Kamala Harris clip is that, in spite of getting her ass kicked in the 2024 election in a historic manner, I mean, talking about losing the popular vote, that she hasn't changed anything.
She's not like trying, she hasn't like gone into hiding and like done a remix and really like considered her ways.
They haven't changed anything.
This tweet's still up.
Look at this rare photo of Tim Walz.
Hopefully, before his arrest.
Will that ever happen?
If they get away with it in Minnesota, it's going to make me so angry.
But yeah, Kamala, there's been, there's no introspection, there's no reflection at all.
Remarkable Kamala Silence 00:02:56
benny johnson
The incapable of that.
Just pure cringe from Kamala.
It's the same, the same Kamala, same Kamala lost the election.
Same Hillary Clinton, right, that lost in 2016.
Please run again.
I'm begging you, run again.
I'm praying for it.
Let's pray together.
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If anybody enters through me, you will be saved and will go in and will find a pasture.
John 10:9.
Ladies and gentlemen, the only way to salvation, the only way to repentance, the only way to a peaceful life is through Christ Jesus.
And that is the truth.
And that's what the show is about: the truth.
As tough as it might be, this entire Epstein saga has been a real one, you know.
But we've put our shoulder to the wheel and we want you to know the truth.
We demand the truth.
And ultimately, Christ is the truth.
And so, as frustrating as some of the stuff can be, they didn't ask Alex Acosta about the Intel comment.
As frustrating as some of the stuff can be, at the very least, we have that.
And in the end, what does that guarantee us?
We're going to win.
So march with us.
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