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Nov. 13, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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BOMBSHELL Epstein Files EXPOSE 'Clinton Body Count', NAMES Hillary | Reveal Conspiracy Against Trump
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lucas tomlinson
After 40 days and 40 nights, the longest government shutdown in American history is officially over.
The House passing the bill at around 8.20 p.m. Eastern last night.
Then it was across town to President Trump's desk in the Oval Office where he signed it.
donald j trump
For the past 43 days, Democrats shut down the government of the United States in an attempt to extort American taxpayers for hundreds of billions of dollars.
Today, we're sending a clear message that we will never give in to extortion because that's what it was.
lucas tomlinson
Now, the top Democrat in the House had a very different take and appeared to blame Republicans for the high cost of Obamacare.
hakeem jeffries
House Democrats will continue to fight to address the health care crisis that Republicans have created.
And House Democrats will continue to fight to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits for tens of millions of Americans.
This fight is not over.
unidentified
We're just getting started.
lucas tomlinson
Now, Democratic Senator Corey Booker says, quote, the Democratic Party needs change.
It is time for a new generation of leaders to stand up to Trump and to all those complicit in sabotaging the American dream.
Our country needs a comeback.
Now, for those keeping score at home, Carly and Todd, the final House tally, 222 to 209, six Democrats breaking with their party to vote for it, all represent districts Trump won in 2024.
And on the GOP side, Thomas Massey and Greg Stuby broke with their Republican colleagues.
Stuby didn't like the Senate provision awarding half a million bucks to senators if their phone records have been seized in the Jacksmith investigation of January 6th.
And the bill President Trump signed, keeping the government open, only lasts for about two months till the end of January, so we could be right back here after the holidays.
And I can tell you guys that we've seen cleaning crews throughout the morning preparing the Capitol to welcome visitors here once again.
unidentified
Welcome back to the Democrats have downs.
They're at the gate and they're off.
Jumping out in the lead is underage girls and Bill Clinton close behind.
It's a blue dress painting and a creepy island.
And now here comes the Lolita Express, a curious prince.
Andrew falls back as the FBI takes the reins.
Faulty cameras falls off quickly as a fat Bill Barr moves into position.
And here comes my guards took a nap followed by the strongest bed sheets and the dumbest thing we've ever heard.
Coming down the back stretch is Maxwell the Massad agent moving ahead of dumb horny celebrities.
But coming on the inside is leveraged politicians and a blackmail operation.
It's Binders Bondi followed by 10,000 hours of footage.
Awful footage.
Boxes of evidence is challenging for second going into the clubhouse turn.
Passing on the rail is a creepy temple that looks like Ellen DeGeneres studio backdrop, followed by cardboard in the windows, a giggling Bill Gates, and in general.
You always have to be careful.
Here they come, spinning out of the turn.
Epstein didn't kill himself, is in the lead, but here comes Cash and Bong Gino.
No arrests and public outrage are neck and neck.
And down the stretch they come.
Pedos run our government is pulling away from disappearing victims by a length, but coming in strong.
Is no videos exist, but I saw the video and nothing is wrong.
And at the wire, it's the media colluding with Epstein.
A conspiracy to finish Trump.
And who's the boss?
benny johnson
Okay, Sherry.
Jerry, you cooked on that one.
And we have a packed show for you.
So I'm not going to sit here and do a full meme review.
But hot damn.
That was very, very good, ladies and gentlemen.
A very good meme to start off our day.
We are going to have a great day.
This is going to be a very good day today, November 13th, 2025, as Epstein didn't hang himself, but you can potentially hang your own Christmas ornaments ready to go and ready to rock from the Benny store.
We'll do it.
We'll show you the full store in just one moment, but I'm just explaining the giant cardboard box here.
Ornaments have shit, ladies and gentlemen.
And while Epstein hanging is certainly a mystery, your ornaments will not be a mystery.
We have the Christmas cheer set to make your seasons bright.
New Epstein files expose not Trump, but the Clintons in a historic backfire boomerang that hit Democrats right in the ball sack yesterday.
unidentified
Yikes.
benny johnson
Trump signs bill to reopen the government.
Viva Fry and Attorney General Ken Paxon from Texas joins the show.
He's running against John Cornyn.
John Cornyn is a very bad man.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Benny Johnson, and this is the Benny Show.
Tonight, we're live with Byron Donalds at the University of Florida.
Today is the day.
We're excited about it.
We're going to start chatting with the kids, man.
It's nice to just wear the same thing every day, you know, because then like you just kind of, you look like the meme.
You look like the avatar.
I just wear the same black t-shirt.
I'm wearing a black t-shirt tonight.
I've been having to wear too many suits lately, and I don't like that.
Enough with the suits, okay?
We're going to be wearing the black t-shirt tonight.
We're going to be rolling with the next governor of Florida.
We're to talk to the kids at this university about some very important things concerning their future.
You know, if you can't buy a house, if you can't have a piece of the American dream, you have no future in this country and your leaders have abandoned you.
And many commentators, podcasters, and TV news hosts on the right are perfectly fine with you being abandoned.
And so it's time to actually claw that back.
It's time to actually fight back against the people who wish to sink this country deeper into a depression, both spiritually and economically and morally.
And this is how we reclaim it.
That's the way Charlie did it.
It's the way I'm going to do it.
And ladies and gentlemen, we're going to rock and roll tonight.
Okay, why not?
Let's just jump into the Christmas ornaments.
unidentified
Why not?
benny johnson
I'm ready for some Christmas cheer.
Epstein did hang himself, but you can hang yourself.
All of the Christmas ornaments, we don't pop them up on screen.
Let's see if this works today.
Okay, good.
Is everything working fine?
unidentified
Today?
benny johnson
All right, good.
You put your Trump 2028 hat on and your JD, your JD Vance meme.
Let's go.
The Felice, Navi Dodd, Trump over the wall.
We're missing two, which, Klein, if you wouldn't mind scrolling down to the garbage truck and Trump waving out the window.
These are two that we are fabricating right now and are set and have shipped.
If you've ordered already, every ornament is five bucks.
Five dollars.
Wow, Benny, you must have gone to the dirty communist Chinese in order to get these ornaments made for $5 each.
Nope, I actually used a veteran who works with me to make all of the items in my store.
He lives right here.
He only hires Americans.
He prefers to hire veterans, frankly, and they make these in-house.
Killer Klein is headed there this afternoon.
And we're going to actually show you how all these ornaments are made.
So you can support American jobs.
You can do it without inflationary spirals.
$5 each.
If you want to buy all of them, we have a bundle pack.
You get two free.
This one is the RFK Jr.
RFK Jr. didn't hang himself, ladies and gentlemen, but he does hang a candy cane.
Okay.
The full pack right there.
If you can just click on the last one, Klein, right at the very top, you get the full pack, all 12, and you get two free.
So how about that?
How about that?
Let's freaking go.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're excited about this morning and we're excited today.
Full of vim and vigor.
Piss and vinegar, as they say, as we look at an absolutely catastrophic situation for Democrats yesterday, when you could see some of the biggest nightmares of the first administration laid forth in the decision to allow Michael Wolf into the White House.
A wolf, letting the wolves into the White House, letting the wolves into the sheep pasture or the chicken houses, as the old fables would go, the Aesop's fable, the wolf, never the good character, Michael Wolf, not a good character.
And it turns out that this author and biographer spent many, many hours with Jeffrey Epstein colluding as to how to get Trump.
And yet the first administration let this guy in to go profile Trump and write this massive hit job.
It shows you the difference in the administrations, and we should be thankful for learning.
Nobody lives a perfect life.
I do not live a perfect life.
I constantly have to get roasted inside of this company in the chat for doing things that I'm like, frankly, ashamed of, right?
Like you just, you make mistakes.
And this was a massive mistake.
And Democrats revealed that this week in the release of Jeffrey Epstein emails.
That this author, Michael Wolf, this guy who's like out there with all these sordid and salacious claims against Donald Trump, this man was colluding directly with Jeffrey Epstein to see how they could use Jeffrey Epstein and his sick predator pedophilia in order to harm Trump.
You can see it in the actual emails.
It's a massive backfire, one of the most historic backfires we've ever seen.
I guess we should start, ladies and gentlemen, with the biggest backfire, which is the claim that Donald Trump was spending hours with one of the Epstein victims.
Oh boy, very naughty here.
Goodness gracious.
So naughty.
The Democrats release an email that said, yo, here's President Trump spending time with Epstein victim, right?
Okay, so let's click through.
Please scroll down and click through the Democrats email.
Let's go through and debunk the whole thing.
So they released this.
They should be sued for this.
I mean, I know.
I don't know if you can.
I don't know how that works.
Hard to sue the federal government.
They should be sued for this.
Oversight Democrats.
Let's go to the first page here.
Look at this naughty email from Jeffrey Epstein.
So here's Jeffrey Epstein emailing Jelaine Maxwell.
I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
unidentified
Oh, no.
benny johnson
What does that mean?
Well, I'll tell you what that means in just a second.
Victim, they black out the name victim spent hours at his house.
Wow.
One of my victims.
You know, girl who was abused or whatever.
Assuming, I mean, I just assume that she was, yes, abused by Trump.
This is what the allegations say here from the Democrats.
Klein, click out of this.
Click out of this.
Click out.
Out.
Out, my friend.
There you go.
Now click on this one.
There you go.
There you go.
You got to keep up.
Here we go.
Rocking and rolling.
Sometimes on these things, it's better if I just run with my window.
But nonetheless, here we go.
There it is.
You can see how the Democrats blot it out, blot it out.
Victim.
unidentified
Wow.
benny johnson
Look at that.
Trump must have done something super naughty here.
But you know what's amazing about this email is that not only is it not new, we have the original without the blotting out.
And so you can actually see who the victim is.
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the unredacted version.
Thank you, Klein.
Virginia.
Who would that be?
Oh, it'd be Virginia Roberts, the lady we just had killed, the lady that we just murdered.
By the way, murdering people who have dirt on us is going to be a theme of the show.
We'll get to the Clintons in just a second.
It is amazing the way that Democrats swing on Trump and end up knocking out their own molars.
It is remarkable the capacity for them to do this.
The ability for them to take a big hammer, a sledgehammer, and swing it as hard as they possibly can, hit rubber, and have it bounce right back up into their own ball sack.
It's like an Acme cartoon.
It's like a Looney Tune.
Who's Virginia?
Oh, yeah, Virginia Roberts.
Virginia Roberts, of course, is a hero.
She's somebody who blew the whistle on Jeffrey Epstein.
She was abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
Prince Andrew's been kicked out of the royal family.
They settled with her for hundreds of millions of pounds.
I don't know the exact number.
It's secret, but they don't pay these kinds of things out if nothing happened.
There are photos to prove it.
And ladies and gentlemen, she got a front row seat in the most horrifying way to the Jeffrey Epstein operation.
Now, what is that operation?
It's been totally revealed that Jeffrey Epstein was a massage agent.
He was working for Israel.
Oh, we know that now.
We'll get there.
Don't you worry.
So much to get to.
unidentified
Let's start slowly.
benny johnson
So they released this.
This is the big news.
Okay.
We're going to go through all the news, but this is the big news that they released.
Donald Trump, they had to block out her name.
But Donald Trump did a nasty thing with a victim of Epstein.
The funny part about it is, is that, yes, Donald Trump knew that Virginia Roberts was a victim.
Donald Trump spoke about it many times.
ALX, do we have the clip of Donald Trump talking through this?
Okay.
Donald Trump spoke about Virginia Roberts many times.
He's not scared of Virginia Roberts.
He doesn't look like Bill Clinton does.
When you bring up any of his accusers, Donald Trump's like, yeah, that sweetheart.
She worked in the spa at Mar-a-Lago.
Predator Jeffrey Epstein stole her from Mar-a-Lago.
He engaged in abuses of young women.
I kicked out Jeffrey Epstein for that exact reason.
Virginia Roberts, in her home, in her own hand.
Please, deposition.
In her own hand, says Donald Trump was nothing more than an absolute and total gentleman to me.
Donald Trump is somebody who never touched me, never abused me, never flirted with me, she even says, in sworn deposition to the court.
Virginia Roberts is someone who has said this not only in court documents, but also in media and in her book and in depositions.
And she would have done it before Congress, but she was murdered.
I mean, how can you possibly say that?
We heard that she committed suicide.
Well, listen, guys, I'm just going off of the words of her father, okay?
I don't know Virginia Roberts.
Never met her.
Don't know her.
But let me tell you a little story about Virginia Roberts.
Get that suicide tweet for me and get it right now.
Virginia Roberts told us she wasn't suicidal.
So that's the first thing.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Speaking of, you know, when you're talking about ornaments that don't hang themselves, you know, when people tell you straight up, I'm not suicidal, you should tend to believe them.
That's a bit of a cry for help.
Virginia Roberts posted this online when she was coming out in a deposition against Prince Andrew.
She says, she says, if something bad happens to me, know this, I'm not suicidal.
And what happens next?
Well, just years, about a year and a half after she posts this, after she posts this tweet, Virginia Roberts gets hit by a bus.
How did that happen?
Well, I don't know.
Nobody's ever explained it to us.
Why did she get hit by a bus?
Was she in like a, boy, was she traveling in downtown Manhattan or Chicago?
Nope.
She was in the middle of the Australian Outback, literally on a farm in the middle of a rural road, one of the most remote places on earth.
Well, what happened after she got hit by a bus?
Was someone arrested?
Do they ask the driver?
Like, who are you?
What are you doing out here running people over?
Nope.
Nobody was ever charged.
Nobody ever faced any punishment.
Well, that's completely strange.
That doesn't make any sense.
Don't make any sense.
Well, Virginia Roberts, did she die?
No, she was actually in hospital.
And she recorded a video that says she's going to die.
Well, that's strange.
After she said she's not suicidal, yep.
She said she had days to live from her hospital bed after getting blasted by a bus in the middle of the Australian Outback.
That's all of these things, 100% empirically true.
This is the story.
And then lo and behold, just days after recording that video, found dead.
Virginia Roberts.
The official story, even though we haven't seen any autopsy, this is going to be a recurring theme, okay?
Vince Foster, it's the same thing.
It's all the same thing.
Even though we haven't seen any autopsy, even though we didn't see any evidence, even though her family members, her family members and her lawyer say that the entire situation is suspicious and they don't believe it.
unidentified
Her phone father says this.
benny johnson
Listen, you know, people have troubled kids.
Sometimes it's important to just kind of know your kids and to be there for them.
And obviously that's your role as a parent.
But when her own father, Alex, you got that clip.
When her own father goes on Piers Morgan and says, no, I don't believe that she committed suicide, then you got a real problem here.
Now, what, why, you know, we talked about how this suicide of Virginia Roberts happened.
And she went by Virginia Roberts and Virginia Guffray.
She's used both.
So I'm just going to go with Roberts because it's just easier to say, but Virginia Guffray is also a name she's used.
When this happened, we said that's incredibly convenient that this is happening right now because she was a superstar.
You know, Virginia Roberts is out there talking to all of the press, all of the media, telling them everything about Bill Clinton, telling them everything about the truth of Jeffrey Epstein and his operation.
I'm not trying to discount.
Not trying to discount other women that Jeffrey Epstein abused, and there were other women, but I'm saying that Virginia Roberts has all the receipts to back everything up.
And in a world where people, you know, you can obviously see the way that things go.
They go the way of BL, they obviously go the way of Me Too and BLM, right?
When you sort of get a feeding frenzy on this kind of stuff, it's important to have people that are above reproach, people who've obviously been doing this for a long time, who stand to no financial benefit, who are just there for the truth, right?
And for justice.
And Virginia Roberts are just one of those people, and her voice would be very important right now, especially as Democrats try and run this op against Trump.
It's almost like they knew the op was going to happen, and they needed to make sure that the key witness who was constantly saying that Donald Trump did nothing wrong, she was constantly saying this.
Again, you can find deposition after deposition after deposition where she is asked about Donald Trump.
You know, it would just blow the hole in the entire operation.
If you have this woman out there who's saying, no, Trump did nothing wrong.
Just seems all too convenient, doesn't it?
Too convenient for her father.
Here we go.
piers morgan
Tell me about your reaction when you heard that she'd taken her life.
donald j trump
Well, first of all, I couldn't even believe it.
I mean, I started crying right away.
I'm still crying.
I can't believe that this is happening.
It just, it's impossible.
unidentified
And then for them to say that she committed suicide, there's no way that she did.
donald j trump
Somebody got to her.
benny johnson
Somebody got to her.
There's no way that she did.
Wouldn't like her father be the most accurate and important authority on what is his daughter's motivations here?
Wouldn't you like trust the dad?
I have little girls.
There is a special connection between me and my daughters.
Shouldn't we believe it when Virginia Roberts says right here, I'm making it publicly known in no way, shape, or form.
Am I suicidal?
I've made this known to my therapist, my general practitioner.
If something happens to me for the sake of my family, do not let it go away and help and help me to protect them.
Too many evil people want to see me quieted.
Well, well, well.
Wouldn't it be so important right now to have Virginia Roberts?
So can you go back to the Democrats tweet?
So there's the oversight Democrats tweet.
Wow, look at that.
13 million views, 12,000 reposts, 43,000 likes, 5,000 saves.
This thing went properly viral.
They blacked out Virginia Roberts' name because they know damn well that if she were alive right now, she'd be the first person suing them.
Saying like, how dare you actually imply that Donald Trump was anything other than a gentleman to me?
You're lying.
And they'd have to delete the tweet, but she's dead.
So now they can get away with their lies.
Vince Foster's dead.
unidentified
Hmm.
benny johnson
Again, I'm trying to sense a trend here.
We're going to get to that in just a moment.
So that first op completely and totally blew up in their face.
And we're starting to see actually the op fully laid bare with not only this blow up in their face, but also Michael Wolf and how he was working behind the scenes with Jeffrey Epstein.
And this sort of proves it in order to sabotage Donald Trump and slander him and smear him.
That's what I was talking about up front.
Trump-obsessed writer Michael Wolf encouraged Jeffrey Epstein to blackmail Donald Trump.
Emails reveal.
Let's read.
Discredited author Michael Wolf once encouraged Jeffrey Epstein to blackmail Donald Trump, insisting the convicted pedophile could generate debt from him.
The Trump-obsessed writers' email exchanges with Epstein were among a trove of documents released by House Democrats.
In one email, Wolfe floated the possibility of intimidating Trump for his own benefit.
He warned that Epstein and the then GOP candidate be asked about the alleged ties on the campaign trail.
I hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in a scrum afterwards.
I think that you should let him hang himself.
What?
I think you should let him hang himself, Michael Wolf adds the next day.
If he then hasn't been, if he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, that gives you valuable PR and political currency.
You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.
Or you could win generating a debt.
Ah, well, would you look at that?
Talking about hanging themselves.
Chillingly, chillingly sharp use of words there.
Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey was a great guy and has gotten a raw deal out of victims for political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime.
So let's unpack the operation here because now it's now just right there in the emails.
Now it's in black and white.
We've been able to see the operation, but here it is in black and white.
Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of the nation of Israel.
Now we know this.
Alex, let's just walk on.
Let's just walk on through some of those important articles yesterday that obviously show this.
And we don't need to spend too much time on this, but Dropsight News has some incredible idea.
I wasn't familiar with Dropsight News up until yesterday.
They have some incredible reporting here about how Jeffrey Epstein was an agent of Israel.
Now, whatever you feel about that, whatever you think about that, it's true.
You don't have to like it.
And yeah, please get me the whole, yeah, get me the whole series of articles.
It's in the production.
I need the whole series of articles because Dropsite News has been corroborating some critically important things.
And I know how this works because I know the people that do it inside of the Trump administration.
Here's how it works.
For high-level and sensitive negotiations, what states often do is create a private partnership with individuals who are not representatives of the government in case things go south.
When you're a representative of the government, there are a lot of very strict rules around what you can say, what you can do, who you can talk to, what you can deliver and offer.
Because you're a state actor.
When you're a proxy for a state actor, you can do things like this.
Perfect.
Here's Jeffrey Epstein negotiating security deals with Mongolia.
Here's Jeffrey Epstein having Israeli spies stay in his home.
Cordelaine, another security deal, a security deal with Syria and Russia, negotiating all on behalf of the nation of Israel.
The last photo that was taken of Jeffrey Epstein, he was wearing a IDF sweatshirt.
I mean, you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to sort of see this pattern.
And it's something that we've discussed widely on this program, which is that Jeffrey Epstein was indeed part of a influence and sabotage op in order to entrap Western leaders.
You can put that up, Klein.
Thank you.
Here's the idea.
This is like the last known photograph of Jeffrey Epstein.
And what is he wearing?
An IDF, Israeli Defense Forces t-shirt.
It's a little on the nose here, quite frankly.
But like, what, like, what are we to make of this?
What are we to make of this entire operation?
And what are we seeing now in the Michael Wolf emails?
That the whole point of this was in order to entrap and to manipulate Western powers, leadership, oligarchs from around the world wasn't just Americans.
There were powerful people from NATO countries, billionaires, multinational actors and actresses, foreign, American, and otherwise, that were ensnared here in order for there to be some level of compromise on them.
And that's what you see plain as day here in the black and white.
Let's control Donald Trump because you are such a sick pederist and anyone associated with you.
So you are like engaging in pedophilia, Jeffrey, on purpose, you'd have to assume then.
In order to make you such an irascible and evil, malevolent figure, we're creating that by design.
And then anyone associated with you, we can then smear them, control them just by proxy.
Bill Clinton's a great example of this.
Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein's jet.
And what do they say about Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jets?
There were little girls on the flights, and they were putting the president at risk.
Kevin Spacey said these exact things.
The little girls on the flight put Clinton at risk.
I mean, are you going to call Kevin Spacey?
And what motivation would Kevin Spacey have to lie here?
unidentified
I was very fortunate that President Clinton introduced me a lot of business leaders in London because he knew I was coming to the old Vic.
Do you know who I never asked for anything?
Was Jeffrey Epstein?
I didn't want to be around this guy because I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa because there were these young girls.
And we were like, who is this guy?
So I will say this.
piers morgan
There were young girls on those flights.
unidentified
There were young girls on those flights.
Yeah.
And that's been out.
They've talked about it.
benny johnson
Well, I haven't ever heard it put like that.
But you can obviously see the operation here.
This has gotten no press.
I can't imagine why.
But nonetheless, Jeffrey Epstein has been all but confirmed due to the, and I want to just put up, if you could put up some of those drop site links, all but confirmed as an Israeli agent, somebody acting on behalf of the nation state of Israel.
And so you have to effectively bundle it all together and view this as what we've always viewed it as, which is a influence operation, a compromise operation.
And now we have it in black and white.
That's what they were trying to do.
They're trying to smear Trump by proxy using Jeffrey Epstein.
Democrats don't give a damn about Epstein victims.
You've never heard them say the name Epstein before.
Bill Clinton now is on death's door, so they just don't care.
He's done.
They've used him.
He's a husk and a shell of himself.
Bill Clinton can barely utter a sentence.
He's gone the way of Joe Biden.
So he's totally useless to the Democrats now.
So now they can just trot out the Epstein stuff because it is now useful against Donald Trump.
I think they were a little worried that this would all blow back on Bill.
But nonetheless, Bill is totally a relic at this point, and they just don't care, right?
And so now that it's been laid bare, what are we to make of it?
And what are we to believe about what Jeffrey Epstein says?
Is he telling the truth?
I mean, you can see here in the document that, unlike Donald Trump, the victims did know Bill Clinton quite closely and carnally.
You can tell here that, according to all available evidence, Bill Clinton has a considerable amount to hide.
And it's something that President Trump's been telling us for a long time.
Somebody who actually cares about Epstein victims would talk like this.
donald j trump
Or they should focus on the fact that Larry Summers from Harvard, that Bill Clinton, who you know very well, and lots of other friends, really close friends of Jeffrey Summers, should be spoken about.
Because, you know, Jeffrey Epstein should be spoken about.
And they should speak about them because they don't talk about them.
They talk about me.
I have nothing to do with the guys.
Some of his friends that are hedge fund guys, they're all over the place.
You ought to be speaking about Bill Clinton, who went to the island 28 times.
I never went to the island.
unidentified
You maintaining you did not write a letter for Jeffrey Epstein's office.
donald j trump
I don't even know what they're talking about.
Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name, but that's happened a lot.
All you have to do is take a look at the dossier, the fake dossier.
Everything's fake with that administration.
Everything's fake with the Democrats.
Take a look at what they just found about the dossier.
Everything is fake.
They're a bunch of sick people.
You should focus on Clinton.
You should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard.
You should focus on some of the hedge fund guys.
I'll give you a list.
These guys lived with Jeffrey Epstein.
I sure as hell didn't.
Thank you very much.
You should be talking about, if you're going to talk about that, talk about Clinton.
Talk about the former president of Harvard.
Talk about all of his friends.
Talk about the hedge fund guys that were with him all the time.
Don't talk about Trump.
What you should be talking about is the fact that we have the greatest six months in the history of a presidency.
I threw him out, and that was it.
I'm glad I did if you want to know the truth.
And by the way, I never went to the island, and Bill Clinton went there supposedly 28 times.
I never went to the island, but Larry Summers, I hear, went there.
unidentified
He was the head of again and again and again.
benny johnson
Donald Trump.
I mean, okay, this is a final time.
I'll make this point because it's so self-evident.
Trump started his political career talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
If you were guilty, you wouldn't do that.
I mean, if you're entirely pathological and you want to get caught, I guess.
But if you knew that your opponent was a criminal, then you'd bring that up.
If you were the criminal, you wouldn't bring it up.
This is human nature.
This is deep in the bone stuff, guys.
It's not hard.
This is easy.
President Trump back in 2015 was talking about Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton and the island.
Donald Trump began his campaign by popularizing who Jeffrey Epstein was.
Why would you do that if you had something to hide?
The porcelain doesn't have anything to hide.
In fact, according to Mike Johnson, in a clip that we won't forget, they want us to forget it.
Mike Johnson straight up outed Trump as an FBI informant against Epstein, which stands to reason.
Here we go.
Saying that what Epstein did is a hoax.
It's a terrible, unspeakable evil.
unidentified
He believes that himself.
When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Viralago.
He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down.
The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who suffered these unspeakable harms.
benny johnson
It's detestable to him.
He and I have spoken about this as recently as 24 hours ago.
brad edwards
The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I was going, that I wanted to talk to them.
benny johnson
I forgot that this, I forgot these two clips were together, so it bears some explaining, but nonetheless, this is Mike Johnson saying Trump was an FBI informant.
He was an FBI informant against Jeffrey Epstein.
Probably something that he shouldn't have said.
They tried to walk that back, but whatever.
And then here's the lawyer.
Here's the lawyer for the Epstein victims here in a now famous interview saying Trump's the only guy who helped me.
Trump was perfectly happy to do that.
We've seen both these clips before.
Like, that is what stands to reason.
And now there are some people who are trying to hide once again.
Who are those people?
The Clinton body count.
Always a great show when we can show you this Wikipedia page.
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I like, I hope and pray that I'll be able to show this, that I'll wake up in the morning and ALX will have like some leads for the show.
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Oh, it's a great Wikipedia page, ain't it?
Clinton body count conspiracy theory.
Oh, that kind of conspiracy.
So just stop reading, right?
But if you continue to read, something magical happens.
Something magical happens.
The Clinton body count conspiracy says that there are deaths of up to 100 people that are directly related to the Clintons.
They've credited this, haven't they?
unidentified
They've edited this because they know that we read it.
benny johnson
It's so funny.
Bill Clinton and his wife, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have secretly had their political opponents murdered and often made it look like suicides, totaling as many as 50 or more listed victims.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
I love that.
Just frame it, will you?
Just frame it.
So that's what the Clinton body count is.
Now, the most famous death on the Clinton body count is a guy named Vince Foster.
So what exactly is Vince Foster?
Who is Vince Foster?
Let's go ahead and read.
ALX has procured us an article to kind of like rip through this.
FBI files linking Hillary Clinton to suicide of White House Counsel.
This Foster has vanished from the National Archives.
Oh, no.
Would you look at that?
Foster, who was the White House counsel, very powerful position, is believed to have shot himself with a .38 caliber revolver in a park along the Potomac River.
He shot himself multiple times in the back of the head.
Okay.
Two former FBI agents involved in the investigation tell the Daily Mail that they issued reports linking Hillary Clinton to Foster's suicide.
Days before his death, the first lady ridiculed him mercilessly in front of his peers.
Say, says former FBI agent detailed in their report.
You have failed us, Hillary told Foster.
Oh my.
They archived the material in the case, but now it's all gone.
Oh no.
Oh, here's a photo of Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster.
Okay, let's go ahead and read, you know, just kind of like the people's history here of Vince Foster and the Clintons here some more.
Hey, Alex, do you have that?
The FBI investigation of Foster's death has been conducted by an independent counsel, Kenneth Starr.
For unknown reasons, Starr elected to conceal the FBI's findings in the report.
So yeah, Vince Foster just had a, Vince Foster had a very rough situation with the White House.
Like, yeah, put up the other article.
I want just like a rundown.
I want like a people's memory of like what is, what was this, what was all of, what was all of Vince Foster here.
Thank you, right here.
Okay.
Hillary Clinton triggered suicide of President Bill Clinton's counsel, Vince Foster, when she attacked and humiliated him in front of White House staff, according to FBI agents, whose now all of their available evidence is now gone.
Got it.
But you know who does know about these kinds of things?
The comedians.
It's a famous clip of Norm McDonald on The View, something that would never happen.
Where Norm McDonald walks up and sits down in front of the witches of the View, many of them still on the show.
It's amazing because this is how beleaguered and old and what a nursing home the View has become.
And he gets up and he makes this joke about Bill Clinton.
And it is the single funniest joke in the history of the View, but probably in the history of live television ever.
Please watch.
norm macdonald
I think we should get the homicide out of the White House and get like a fresh start because we don't want any more murderers.
I think we should just go on to the next question.
unidentified
Who's murderous?
Yeah.
norm macdonald
Well, Clinton murdered a guy.
unidentified
Yeah, you know, we're not allowed to.
You're not allowed to write accusations without anything.
That's a little too far.
norm macdonald
Let's just go on to the next post.
unidentified
Yeah.
This is not my week.
What can I tell you?
Oh, it's not mine either.
And I'm being very nice, okay?
He's a good boy.
Now, Norm.
norm macdonald
Do you never hear that?
unidentified
No.
Listen, we don't need no money after this.
norm macdonald
And I don't want to hear it.
And this is not the place to make those accusations.
unidentified
And you're supposed to be funny.
benny johnson
Let's get on, Craig.
unidentified
It is funny.
Here you go.
norm macdonald
This is a live show.
unidentified
Norm, but you have been properly chastised by Barbara.
I'm not going to ask the next.
norm macdonald
I thought it was a matter of record.
benny johnson
Shut up.
norm macdonald
Shut up.
Okay, let me do this, okay?
unidentified
I'll tell you what's a matter of record.
You will not be invited back if you don't shut up.
All right, Matt.
Let's talk football.
norm macdonald
All right, manslaughter.
Let's talk football.
Come on.
unidentified
Did you ever hear the word oh?
I certainly hope that somebody calling could tell you to go home.
norm macdonald
Oh, no.
unidentified
But you got a phone ringing.
norm macdonald
Oh, um, hello?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
The thing is this.
You know, Matt Strauss?
unidentified
Yeah, the producer.
norm macdonald
The producer.
He told me it would be funny.
He said, why don't you carry a cell phone on and then let it ring and then pretend like there's a guy on it?
unidentified
Is there anybody on it?
norm macdonald
No, it's a thing.
Pretend you're not.
benny johnson
You know what, Norm?
Okay, all right.
You know, I would watch the view if they had interactions like that.
You know, he killed a guy.
You know, Bill Clinton, he just killed a guy.
All right.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
The Vince Foster, the peculiarities around Vince Foster's suicide, still around to this day.
He was the White House counsel for the Clintons.
Why are we talking about him right now?
Well, Jeffrey Epstein, in his emails, has revealed something remarkable.
So if you scroll on down to subsequent investigation section here, not that we're trying to use Wikipedia as the top line source here, but even when left-wing corrupt media says that there's very strange things that happened and strange circumstances around this suicide, along with the 50 other people that happened to just commit suicide around the Clintons, you know, there's where there's smoke, there's often fire.
Well, now we know the fire.
Jeffrey Epstein, in his emails, has said that Hillary Clinton was having a sexual relationship with Vince Foster.
unidentified
How is that not the story?
benny johnson
Look at this.
Hillary doing naughty things with Vince.
unidentified
What?
benny johnson
Foster committed suicide in 1993.
Well, well, well.
What kind of a mess were they running inside of the Clinton White House?
How nasty is that?
I mean, listen, does that explain why Vince Foster died?
Saw Hillary naked?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
It's not up to me.
Nobody asked.
And I'm not trying to say anything other than if Democrats are going to say that Jeffrey Epstein's emails are the truest and most pure document ever written, then why aren't they investigating this?
Has anybody asked Hillary Clinton if she was having an affair with Vince Foster?
I'm just asking questions here.
And is that why she got him killed?
Was he going to go to the media and say that the first lady was cheating on her husband while her husband was cheating on her with every bimbo that walked through the White House, including a bunch of reporters and everyone knows Monica Winsky, but like, you know, there was like hundreds of people, right?
With Bill Clinton.
The list is like obscenely long.
Donald Trump couldn't even fit them all in a row when he trolled Bill Clinton with all the people that accused him of sexual abuse at the debates in 2016.
So yes.
Yes, I think this is like an important question to ask.
Why don't we ask it?
This man was found dead under very mysterious circumstances.
Shot himself in the back of the head.
Apparently, those weren't the gun wounds, those weren't the firearm wounds in the middle of a park in a public park.
unidentified
No witnesses.
benny johnson
Multiple bullet ball wounds?
Pull it holes?
A 38 revolver, which like would be, how would you shoot yourself in the back of the head with that?
Lots of questions.
Maybe if Hillary was having an affair with him, we'd be able to understand a little more why this man died.
Will Democrats look into this?
I don't know.
I sure hope so.
But sure, it makes a lot of sense now.
And boy, do we ever see, do we ever see like how this could unravel in all the wrong ways for the Democrats?
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Ladies and gentlemen, very, very patiently as we sort of build out, as we have we as we built out our uh exciting Jeffrey Epstein emails segment that was just such a backfire on Democrats is the great Viva Fry, who's back on the program, and we love having him as a guest.
He's one of my favorite guests.
Please welcome Viva.
Viva, have you ever seen a bigger backfire than these Epstein emails?
viva frei
Well, yeah, it's a double-edged sword because it's a massive backfire.
Michael Wolf, if he's not under investigation, deserves to be, but it's such a big backfire that you have to ask yourself: what in the name of sweet holy hell explains the Trump administration's blunder in releasing these documents or ostensibly opposing the release of these files?
benny johnson
That's correct.
viva frei
I don't understand it.
There was one email in particular where I forget who wrote it, but it says, of course, Trump knew about the girls.
He asked Julian to stop.
And that exonerates Trump.
The only thing I can think of is that there are people in the administration who are embarrassed by this, who are protecting their own.
And in order to get Trump to try to, you know, not support the release, they had to say, Hey, Trump, if the media sees this, they're going to argue that you knew about it in advance of when you said you did, and they're going to claim that you were part of it.
And therefore, you have to oppose full transparency on this.
That's like my biggest steel man of an argument as to how Trump was convinced to not say betray the promise, but to backtrack on the promise and then to seemingly criticize those within the Trump supporters who have always wanted the full release of the full Epstein files, myself included.
So I don't understand it.
It's a massive backfire.
It's disgusting.
It's depravity.
It confirms what we all already knew: that these political, educational, financial elites are a bunch of demonic, satanic, pedophile worshipers and pedophiles themselves, allegedly.
benny johnson
Allegedly.
Yes.
Okay.
So tell me about Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton doing naughty things.
Like, what does that exactly say?
And can you please educate me a little more on the Vince Foster suicide?
What a special moment in American history that happened just in time for us to not have the robust, independent media ecosystem, or I'm just not sure you would have been able to pull these kind of things off.
viva frei
It's the internet trope.
Like the Vince Fonts, Vince Foster, shit, we don't make fun of suicide, but you say, oh, every time someone dies, the meme is them writing an email.
I've got dirt on Hillary Clinton.
And no matter how they die, you know, cancer, car accident, whatever, it's the trope.
Vince Foster, whether or not you believe the man shot himself in the back of the head at a very curious time.
It's like the other one, I forget who it was that was found hanging from a tree, shot twice in the chest with a shotgun that was 27 feet from his body that they rule a suicide.
Nobody believed it at the time.
This is the first time in my life that I've ever heard of the rumor that Hillary was doing the nasty with Vince Foster.
Some of us, I thought the rumor was that she batted for the other team and nothing wrong with that, but that was the rumor.
This is outrageous.
It's outrageous.
unidentified
Who is it?
viva frei
What we're seeing now, who's involved in these emails, the extent to which they were involved, looking like they were using Epstein to set up Donald Trump.
And now they released this.
Did you notice when Kevin Space, he said that Clinton had, there were little girls or young girls on the plane?
And then he had to immediately add, well, this is public.
You know, I'm not accidentally disclosing something that I have personal knowledge of.
benny johnson
That wasn't public, by the way.
Nobody's asked Bill Clinton about that.
Bill Clinton is still wandering the halls of polite society, giving very low energy, Biden-esque level speeches, picking up checks.
And nobody asks him this.
He's fully available to be asked.
viva frei
He was getting a deep tissue back massage from one of Epstein's victims.
I mean, the photograph is there.
benny johnson
There's photographs, yeah.
viva frei
And it's so, it's so in your face.
People are like, this photograph has to be AI, like the new generation who didn't cross with this stuff.
But it does beg the question as to why on earth the administration backtracked on the promise to release these files.
And it makes you ask some questions about the advice that Trump is getting from some members of his administration.
But other than that, this is Michael Wolf, the journalist who wrote that book after he was led into the White House, literally colluding with Jeffrey Epstein to try to blackmail Donald Trump in 2016.
This is criminality of the highest order.
And, you know, Cash and Dan have got their hands full dealing with other fires.
But Michael Wolf should be under investigation for something.
I mean, this is not a show me the man, find me the crime.
This is, I have a good indication that this is criminal wrongdoing, whether or not it's barred by statute of limitations.
There was conspiracy here to manufacture blackmail.
And whether or not it's time barred is one thing, but these people should be under investigation.
benny johnson
Yeah, the truth is the truth.
And I sometimes feel like getting the truth out there is almost more damaging than any prison sentence for these people.
And I would love to see that.
And I guess the breakdown of the Michael Wolf email here is clearly the most damning thing in all of this.
Him saying that Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton were doing something naughty.
I think everyone supposed that that was what the operation was, but this just lays bare that what Jeffrey Epstein was, was somebody who was designed to be a predator and a paedophile and was designed to run such a demonic and sick enterprise that anybody who was associated with it,
just by proxy, just by having Jeffrey Epstein invited to your home would be smeared for life and would be compromised for life, even if they did nothing.
And you could see that in the Wolf emails where he's just like, you know, just by the fact that Trump knew you, we can now use that to manipulate Trump to get payments, to get favors, to make the presumptive presidential candidate, then president, bow to our will.
And then you mix that with the new reporting about how closely Jeffrey Epstein was operating with the nation state of Israel and how he was, I mean, it's just, it's become quite clear.
Now, the conspiracy theory is that Jeffrey Epstein was just some weirdo who was good at running numbers.
Now, the proof is that he was clearly running some type of large-scale industrial op for foreign intelligence, right?
Am I going crazy, Viva, or no?
viva frei
No, I think this is people are going to accuse me of trying to defend Israel here, which I'm not.
I say, it's not only Israel.
It's all intelligence.
I mean, once he's being used by the CIA, because he's being used by the CIA, and this is something that people don't talk about, everybody wants the files going after the FBI.
The CIA might be where you go to get the documents on Jeffrey Epstein.
He was working with, if not with intelligence, quite clearly, he was working with intelligence.
And the only question is who he was blackmailing.
People say it's a conspiracy theory.
There's literal black and white evidence that he was trying to blackmail Bill Gates.
And you say, well, not for intelligence.
Who the hell?
You keep moving these goalposts, not you, but the world.
He was running a blackmail operation.
He was obviously getting his own sexual perversions off at the same time.
And it's not clear who was using who.
Is he blackmailing others?
Was the CIA using him to blackmail others?
And this is where it gets dark for the purposes of the American administration.
If the CIA was knowingly using someone who they knew was a pedophile, sexually abusing children, and they were using him for intelligence purposes, I mean, that might be just as embarrassing as the CIA selling crack to the black community in Los Angeles and destroying a generation of men and families.
So that might be the national security issue, the national embarrassment issue that the CIA was using a pedophile for their own nefarious purposes.
But sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.
This is going to come out, but it does go back to the old intelligence trope that you can't control what people know.
You can just control when they learn it.
And so wait enough, you know, wait enough, long enough period of time.
The guilty people die.
The rage dies out.
And then you disclose the information, you know, bit by bit, drop by drop.
But it's wild.
I mean, Epstein's connection to Ehud Barak, I mean, documented that Ehud Barak invested millions in whatever company Epstein was working with.
I think it was with his sister.
I might get some of those details wrong, which had to do with like geo-tracking and video, video content.
And Ehud Barak visiting him, I don't know, whatever, a dozen times after it's known that he's a convicted sex offender.
And Ehud Barak's explanation as a former prime minister of Israel is, I didn't know.
Like they don't do background checks on everybody and anybody who comes in contact with a former prime minister of Israel and an investor in his company.
I mean, it's known.
It's black and white.
Anybody who denies it is living a pipe dream.
But why this administration was so reluctant to follow through on it might not have been a core promise of the campaign, but it certainly was a key issue of it, both in 2016 and 2024.
Why they blundered this so badly.
You can blame Trump for taking advice, bad advice from people, but it was clearly the result of bad advice and some bad judgment.
benny johnson
I cannot agree more.
I view this as the single most damaging own goal, I think, of the first year of the Trump administration in the way that it was, you know, in the way that it was done and in the way that it was rolled out and in the conclusions, because the conclusions are just patently false.
I mean, I'm like, I just don't know how to square that, Viva.
And here's what I'm talking about.
So there was a follow-up to the original release that was done on the 4th of July weekend of all time.
Like, do you understand timing on these things?
Like, I was like, why release?
Why release this on the 4th of July?
I don't, I will never fully understand.
But there was a follow-up that says, you know, we have absolutely zero evidence, zero, of Jeffrey Epstein blackmailing anyone.
Anyhow, you know he has some nasty relationships with these women and we all knew that, but there was zero evidence of blackmail.
Well dude okay, first off, here's evidence of him blackmailing Trump right, like with with Michael Wolf.
That's available to the government.
You can see it, that's a matter of fact.
There's also like i've asked my producers to grab them there's, there's tons of articles about how he blackmailed Bill Gates.
viva frei
Yeah, but like they use, these have been black.
They use the word verbatim.
So it's not like you can't, you can't even say that someone's being hyperbolic or you know it's for defamatory reasons.
You can't make the accusation.
Hey, he's dead, it's black and white, documented for years, and someone's gonna say well okay, he did.
If he did it with Bill Gates, that was a one-off horse crap, I mean.
And some of these things were known and and you know, some of these things were known by members of the administration who was flying on the plane with with, with Clinton uh yeah, it is self-owned is an understatement.
I I, I sincerely believe it might have been either people protecting their own from criminality or saboteurs, like if you wanted to do what you could to cause internal strife and attempt to discredit some key members of the administration, in particular the FBI.
You you would get them to make.
You would get the administration to make statements that would embarrass members of the FBI for things that they have said publicly for the last several years, and that that's unfortunately, to some extent, what happened.
Um, you know a lot of us, you know.
We know what Kash Patel had been saying about deep state actors.
We know what Bongino has been saying for years about Clinton on the plane, from his sources.
And when you come out and have an administration produce an unsigned document and then suggest that members of the administration who have been saying the opposite for years somehow signed off on this unsigned document, and we all know what document I'm talking about and who I'm talking about, this is like acts of sabotage that causes unnecessary damage that pushes away a key component of the Trump base to the detriment of Trump's ability to govern, have faith by the people who put him there, and then heading into the midterms, potentially more serious consequences.
We'll see you next time.
benny johnson
Yeah, I don't um, I don't quite understand, you know.
I don't quite understand how this has been played uh, to the detriment of Trump.
I don't think, you know, I think the dam obviously, the damage that has been done has been done.
Um, but again it for the life of me I can't figure out why not just be out with all of it.
For the life of me I can't, I can't quite square.
I could never, i've never been able to square that whole man like i've, I I, everything that I see, including this release, is such a self-owned by Democrats, it's so empir, it's so empirical, that you could just, you can just backstop it with Virginia Roberts, with Trump's own behavior.
They have like, as far as i've seen, they've had nothing to hide.
And here's Mike Johnson out saying that Trump was an FBI informant.
They've tried to walk that back, but it's true, he said it.
And look, it has right.
viva frei
Anybody who's provided information to the FBI technically is an informant, I guess.
So you know that it has a broader term.
People think of agents like Uh Serpico or something working with the FBI as an undercover agent if he provided info, AND Intel, when they were investigating Epstein, you know, technically it's true, but and the deceitfulness of the Democrats to try to redact Virginia Guffray's name.
benny johnson
Right.
viva frei
I mean, to suggest one of the victims had spent hours with Donald Trump.
Like, I was opining publicly in my thoughts, like Virginia worked at Mar-a-Lago.
I mean, whether or not you think a young girl should be working whatever position she was as a legit job, I had summer jobs.
benny johnson
She was a masseuse.
Like, young girls work as masseuses at like rich guy clubs.
As a matter of fact, I mean, that's Florida, man.
Have you ever been to a have you ever been to a massage?
viva frei
No, I don't like, I don't like anybody touching my body.
It'll get me out of trouble, except my money.
benny johnson
You know, he's like, obviously, this is where trouble can happen, but like there's plenty of reputable massage places, right?
viva frei
She's legally working for Mar-a-Lago.
It's normal she would spend hours with the owner.
So they suggest one of the victims spent hours with her, redacted name so you don't know.
It's smoke and mirrors.
But the only issue is, you know, whether or not the administration was convinced wrongly that the proximity of some members of the community because of the administration, like you say, you know, guilt by association, people in the admin were neighbors to Jeffrey Epstein.
Other members of the admin, you know, did business with, I don't know, how to manage their whatever.
So there is a guilt by association.
And maybe they're all like, just deny, deny, deny, because we'll all be lumped into this together to the extent that we're innocent.
Flip side, you know, maybe some key, not players in the administration, but some prominent members who have now turned to supporting Trump would be embarrassed by this.
And I have zero doubt that that is the case.
But you do not bear a false witness to yourself or others, and you don't betray your own base.
It's like, you know, people are saying, Viva, he's playing 4D, 5D chess.
The more he denies it, the more the media talks about it.
That's one thing.
But coming out and saying, you know, point blank, if you continue to push this, you're not my demographic anymore.
I mean, that's slapping in the face and almost turning your most ardent supporters into traitors.
That's not something you say, even if you're playing 4D, 5D, or 70D chess.
That's something that very few people might be able to forgive at the end of the day, even if this turns out to be a net positive.
We're not there yet, but we're certainly turning a corner.
benny johnson
All right.
Well, I can't believe that after all of this and after the month that we've had and the couple months that we've had, man, Charlie, there's a video now from Megan Kelly that she's posted of Charlie telling Tucker to go all the way, you know, go full guns blazing on Epstein.
And he told me the same thing, right, at the same conference.
And it was Charlie actually who viewed the rollout of this as something that could really be a threat, clearly, and used against the Trump administration.
He saw it clear as day.
He saw it crystal clear that if you don't tell the, you know, if you are running in order to destroy the establishment, then you have to destroy the establishment.
And there's nothing more sick and more perverse than what was going on with Jeffrey Epstein within the establishment.
And I don't know, like, nobody is quite sure where this tale is going to end.
What do you think, Viva?
Like, what do you think is going to be the ultimate result here?
viva frei
We're going to get the information.
It'll go the slower way and the harder way.
But it's like, you know, when Don Jr. months ago, you cannot put people in a position where they have to betray their long-held principles in order to continue to support the administration.
And I'm saying all of this, it's not self-preservation.
And it's not even self-justification.
If I were on, you know, today to take a 180-degree turn from what has been my position since 2016, A, it would be suspicious.
I'd have to have a damn good reason to do it.
And B, if it's not authentic, I would feel like an absolute traitor, like an absolute betrayer to my own principles.
You have people who are now saying Epstein issue is no big deal.
There's tweets from them.
And by the way, I'm not saying Don Jr. because he's been consistent and probably polite in, you know, in, I don't think he's changed his view at all.
But there's like, you know, I won't call them influencers.
That's a demeaning term, but there's a lot of vocal voices on Twitter who are literally taking 180s from positions they've taken on Epstein from barely a few months ago or a couple of years ago.
And I'm not saying it's suspicious.
I'm not going to accuse anybody of getting paid, but it's intellectually and morally inconsistent.
And so, and you can't ask the most vocal supporters of your administration, people who've been supporting you for years to their own sacrifice to say, you better switch and go pull a 180, or you're no longer, you know, I no longer want your support.
So it's been a disaster, an unnecessary disaster.
It's coming around right now.
And people are going to say, well, this was the plan all along.
Well, then you didn't have to say and do certain things.
You could have let this play out a little bit.
benny johnson
You could do it.
You just out with it.
Yeah, that's right.
Like, there was a good model, and the model was the JFK files.
And you could have done it like that.
There are files that we still don't have on JFK, but you could have just done that.
Okay, here's 50,000 files.
Like, have a great day, right?
Like, rip through them.
viva frei
Okay.
benny johnson
And we'll release the other 50,000 when you're dead.
You know, like whatever.
But like to say nothing, we have nothing.
It's like, you know, because clearly they did have something.
Here's all these, here's Michael Wolf, the guy who was allowed in the White House in the first administration out saying that he's going to blackmail Trump just merely based on the association with Jeffrey Epstein's crap.
viva frei
You know, who's the guy tipping off Epstein's investigations?
This is, I mean, everybody should read Ashley Rinsburgh's or Ryan's Rinsberg's book, The Gray Lady Winks, or The Gray Lady Winked.
It's about the New York Times, not just being wrong throughout history.
You know, fractal wrongness, which at some point in time becomes deliberate.
They are propagandists who have been working for the forces of evil basically since their inception.
And right now, you have like journalists at the New York Times colluding with Jeffrey Epstein, helping Jeffrey Epstein in 2016, a known convicted sex offender.
Holy crap.
I mean, I'm happy that I don't leave the house more often because nothing good happens when you leave the house.
But no, this is, we're dealing with bad faith players who are liars, who talk about undermining democracy.
The Russia Gate hoax was an attempt to subvert democracy.
And they lie and they whip people up into assassination frenzies.
These people have literal blood on their hands.
And right now, we're getting wind of the fact that they were working with a convicted sex offender to try to frame Trump, blackmail Trump, extort Trump.
It's disgusting.
The only question is, is it criminal?
And if it is, is it beyond the statute of limitations?
Because people need to go to jail for this.
But alas, let's deal with that when we get to it.
For now, disclosures are proving to be very juicy.
benny johnson
Let's burn it all down.
It is, it is such a great point that you make that you're just going to have to like look the man in the mirror in the morning and like, can you live with that person?
And if you are betraying your audience and if you are lying to them, then you can't actually.
You're an immoral person and you don't deserve an audience, actually, if you can't just be truthful.
And I look at the faces of my children.
I know that you have a beautiful family, Viva.
And I don't want to lie to my kids either.
And it's critically important that you don't change on these things.
And we're very proud that we have stayed the course on all of this.
And as Charlie, you know, it's funny, all the stories now that are trickling out how aggressively he went against the administration.
Tucker Carlson has something up that, you know, this morning, as he's recalling how Charlie was in the White House, you were the only guy in the White House, like hammering them against going to war with Iran.
The only guy.
And so it's important to not betray yourself because actually self-betrayal is a thing that destroys your soul.
And I have one final little thing for you, Viva, which is an important historic photo.
This is a historic photo to prove this point out of our executive producer, ALX, receiving one of the infamous Epstein binders at a White House meeting.
Thumbing, instead of posing and dancing for the cameras and doing a little jig in front of the cameras, ALX actually went through the binder and said, this is bullshit.
He went through it.
Like, this is ALX.
This is a historic photograph of ALX, our executive producer.
You know him well, going through the binder and saying, wait a second, none of this is new.
All of this is already publicly available information.
This is total garbage.
viva frei
Oh, and some of it was more redacted than what was publicly available.
I mean, and you, you, look, I don't blame anyone else there.
I appreciate the story.
And I, you know, Liz Wheeler came on and explained, you know, people were caught off guard and they didn't even know what they did.
benny johnson
I'm not attacking anyone.
I'm not attacking anyone.
viva frei
It is, it is, it is.
benny johnson
It's become a meme, you know, so you got to acknowledge the meme.
You have to acknowledge reality.
viva frei
Just looking through it and saying, what the hell is this SHIT?
This is not new.
It's more redacted than what's already publicly out there.
And this is phase one.
And I guess we're getting phase two now.
But no, it's, it's, I tell, like, I tell my kids things, you know, the number one lesson is there is, there's nothing worse than being a liar.
And there's nothing when you, when people cannot trust you, you are alone among men.
And it's, it's, and, you know, you can change your mind.
Like if somebody, if there was video of Epstein, like, you know, in the cell, tying some sheets together and, you know, doing it, I'd say, okay, fine.
I, I am now convinced that he took his own life.
I would still then say it's a, it's a manufactured plot because he shouldn't have had sheets in there in the first place.
How did he get extra linen?
But at the very least, you can change your mind when there's additional evidence to warrant it.
unidentified
That's right.
viva frei
It's not a question of being stubborn, but, you know, changing your mind without any evidence just because you're being pressured to do so or because you think it's, I don't know, socially, politically more expedient.
Yeah, look, I'd rather be consistent and be called a panican at some point in time, although I wasn't.
But I was criticized for harp for belaboring the Epstein files and I still will.
But look, I'll say a little bit of vindication in that Trump is not inculpated at all.
He got some bad flipping advice.
And had this been released back, you know, six months ago, holy hell, things might have been different, but better late than that.
benny johnson
That's so true.
Why not release that Hillary Clinton had a relationship with the guy that was suicided at the White House and that Michael Wolf was working with Jeffrey Epstein to smear Trump?
Why not put that in the binder?
Like you had all of it.
Why not just shove that in the binder?
viva frei
It's crazy.
It doesn't make sense.
And, you know, people will say, don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, but there are going to be a number of people out there that are going to attribute this to malice and people potentially trying to sabotage Trump from within.
benny johnson
All we're trying to do here is not to attack people that are working so damn hard.
I was just the White House this Friday, working so damn hard to save this country.
All the young staffers, they are like burning the candle at both ends.
They really do love this nation and they really are trying to save it.
And there are some deeply good and honest and moral people in that administration.
This is just to be, to lock them back into the base.
Yeah, you know, Viva, this is the fun, you know, something happens when you go up to DC.
It's a reality distortion zone.
And it's designed that way in order to manipulate Republican administrations and make them take mistakes like this, step on rakes, and to betray their base and try and disconnect them from the base.
And it's happening right now.
And it's up to us, the base, with influence, to reach out and to like sometimes knock it back on course.
It's important.
It's important to do that.
viva frei
True friends do not let friends make mistakes.
I mean, you're not, you're not, it's like, you know, I sort of analogize it.
benny johnson
Or make mistakes without like confronting them about it.
viva frei
I mean, you can't prevent people.
Like, I sort of analogize it to the trans uh you know, affirmation movement where people say, Oh, I love my kids so much, I'm going to let them make a life-altering mistake.
No, you love your kid, it doesn't mean you listen to your kid.
And if you respect someone, it doesn't mean that you sit there quietly while they do what you think is an objective mistake.
And so, yes, you do criticism.
There's two types of criticism, but constructive and destructive.
Now, when I go when I went after Justin Trudeau, it's destructive criticism.
I'm not trying to make him better.
The man is evil, and I want to see him eliminated, removed from power.
Better make sure to qualify that so nobody takes that out of context.
I wanted to see that administration fall, not get replaced by Mark J. Carney.
But then you can offer constructive criticism to people who you think can be better and who you want to be better.
And to sit there quietly while Trump, or even to egg it on, to cheer it on, encourage it, say, Yeah, good move, Trump.
Uh, call your base, uh, anybody who pursues this, uh, that you no longer want their support.
I mean, you're either you're not helping, and the only question is if you're not helping on purpose or through bad strategy, but the outcome is the same.
So, sometimes you don't, you don't always not criticize the people you want to make better.
Sometimes it's your obligation to do so.
benny johnson
Yes, if you watch your friend get blackout drunk because they're dealing with some terrible stuff and then go home and beat his wife and you do nothing about it, then you're a bad person, actually.
You don't care about them, you clearly care nothing for either of them, right?
Like, and this is what a friend does is they intervene in that moment, right?
What a friend does is they intervene and say, We love you, you know, stop doing this.
This is self-destructive behavior.
Uh, that you only do that if you love someone.
And I love the American people, I love the MA movement, I love the Trump administration and the base.
And these are acts of love.
viva frei
It's America's last hope.
I don't want not to sound like you know, hyperbolic Trump administration needs to succeed.
And whether or not it does it slower or faster, it needs to.
Because if this goes 2026, a sweep in the other direction and 2028, Kamala Harris 2.0 AOC.
Look, you know, Canada has gone the way it's gone.
If America goes the way of Canada, there's literally no bastion of hope left on this earth.
So it's kind of existentially important.
benny johnson
You're right.
Yep.
And I'll never leave.
You know, this is where my grandpappies fought and died.
And this is where I'm going.
I'm never going to leave.
Right.
viva frei
There's nowhere else to go, man.
I came.
I hope to stay.
And there's nowhere else to go.
So that's the best place on earth.
benny johnson
That's exactly right.
All right.
Well, good luck to your native peoples and their new first lady, Katie Perry.
Viva Fry is here on X. You can obviously follow him.
You can follow him on X and on Rumble, where he has his show.
He has nearly a million subscribers here on X.
And he has on Rumble.
Let's go ahead and check here.
You're being 400,000, 500,000.
We just round up.
Simple math.
We round up.
New math.
New math.
We round up 500,000 subs on Rumble.
Godspeed, Viva.
We're huge fans of you.
viva frei
Thank you very much.
benny johnson
Thank you.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we need some help.
We need some help in the Senate.
We got this problem, rhinos in the Senate.
And guys who, well, don't really represent the interests of the base.
Speaking about that as a theme here, Ken Paxton is one of those guys who does represent the interests of the base.
He's the current attorney general for the state of Texas.
He's now running for Senate in the great state of Texas against John Cornyn.
He joins the show live now.
Mr. Attorney General, thank you so much for being on the program.
And I saw that you just signed your official documentation yesterday in order to run against John Cornyn in the state of Texas.
Could you please elucidate for our audience, like, why have you made this decision?
ken paxton
You know, it's been a long time coming.
I've served as Attorney General for 11 years.
I've loved doing it.
I've watched this state prosper, and we have a lot of great statewide officials in Texas who have done a lot of really good things for the state and for the country.
One exception to that has been John Cornyn.
He's been in office since I was in college, and I'm 62.
He's running for his fifth term.
No one's ever done that in Texas, not LBJ, not John Tower, not Sam Houston.
And he's been in office over 40 years.
And I've asked people across the state starting in April, can you name an accomplishment going back through his entire career as Attorney General, Supreme Court Justice, District Judge, back into the 80s?
And I've never had anybody answer that question.
And that's a problem for Texans.
We deserve better, and we're going to get better.
benny johnson
So that's such a great question.
I haven't, I'm not any encyclopedic source on John Cornyn or what he's done, but we do pay very close attention on the show to who's doing what.
And all I know John Cornyn for is betraying America's Second Amendment rights and then getting into little bitchy cat fights with us on social media, which is, I'm sure he has never logged into social media and knows nothing about it.
But his staffers feel entitled to attack us when we try and hold accountable members of our party in the Senate.
And so that's all I know.
Here's his liberty score here.
He's got an F here, according to Conservative Review.
But yeah, I guess, and this is a very outdated photo of him.
We saw him at the RNC convention.
First time I met him in person, he's like a ghost of himself there.
And so, yeah, that's been my experience.
unidentified
So it's good to see the people of Texas.
ken paxton
You get it right.
Look, the only thing we know him for is fighting, helping Joe Biden restrict Second Amendment rights, fighting President Trump on the border wall.
We've got 15 clips of him saying he didn't want the border wall.
We've got clips of him criticizing Trump in 2016 and 2024, saying that he should not be president.
We can do better, is what he said.
And he was insinuating that he was guilty of crimes.
This is not, this is a guy that's running now as a Trump supporter.
He's running as a guy that's pro-border.
Despite that, he has like, I think, 14 to 16 votes on amnesty that are bad.
Goodness.
Everything that I'm talking about, I'm just trying to find something good.
And it's really hard to find it.
All I can find is things like this, where he goes after people like you.
He goes after people like me.
And he does things, he sides with Joe Biden and he fights President Trump until now, the primary.
Suddenly, we've got the fake John Cornyn who doesn't, he's hiding from his record.
benny johnson
So Congress has a major role to play in a couple of critical issues that we have been talking about on this program.
And we are doing our level-headed best to encourage and to shoulder check some of those in our party who are going to try and moderate during the midterm elections, betraying the base and then therefore losing the entire momentum, the entire movement.
What the base wants is an end to H-1B, probably the entire program, and all of H-1B fraud.
They want zero net immigration to our country, and they want mass deportations.
Where do you stand on those issues, Ken Paxon?
ken paxton
Look, I've been fighting illegal immigration since Barack Obama came into office and continue to fight it through the Biden administration.
I think 20 of our lawsuits were on immigration.
Our very first lawsuits against the Biden administration was on day three, when on day one, he told the world he wasn't going to deport anybody and telling the cartels that meant more illegal immigration because now he's helping the cartels.
We got an injunction on day six, stopping him from not enforcing federal law, but we fought him tooth and nail on all kinds of immigration issues.
So I've been a strong proponent of secure borders, building the wall.
We suit them over building the wall and fighting for a policy that makes sense for the United States, which is not open borders.
benny johnson
This is something, obviously, that is going to come to a head as young people feel like they've just been completely boxed out of the American dream.
And all of the available data, sir, represents that.
Now, I know that there's been buku building in Texas.
And I know that in Texas, actually, it's one of the better places to move your family because there is still affordable housing, places where you can get started.
Even though housing, obviously, prices have gone up dramatically around the country.
In spite of the enormous amount of growth in Texas, these are some of the fastest growing and fastest building cities in all of America.
We'd love to see that happen.
We'd love to see 10 million new homes get built for Americans because the difference between now and buying a home in the 1980s, and I hear this in my timeline all the time, right?
Like, stop, you know, like, like, you don't know how hard it was in the 1980s.
Well, listen, there's 200 million more Americans now.
There's not even nearly enough homes for them.
Plus, you're competing against BlackRock, Vanguard, hedge funds, private equity, foreign buyers, and criminal aliens, along with H-1Bs in order to get homes.
And that's taking the American dream out of the hands of heritage Americans and handing it over to our enemies.
What are you going to do to fight against that?
ken paxton
So this is a huge problem.
And it's created by too much government spending.
That's why we have higher interest rates.
That's why our national debt is now $38 trillion.
This is my, I think, one of our major issues.
Other than election fraud in China, this is one of my top three issues because since John Cornyn has been there, think about this.
From George Washington to George W. Bush, John Cornyn came in with George W. Bush in 2002.
We had a federal deficit of $6.2 trillion.
That's our entire history.
Since John Cornyn has been in office, we've gone to $38 trillion.
That spending, he's not spoken out against it.
He's participated in it.
He's sent money overseas.
And that robs the American people of the opportunity to have stable pricing and the opportunity to be able to buy homes.
I've got kids who are trying to buy homes.
And it's very difficult, even though they have good salaries.
They can't afford a home.
And this is caused by Biden inflation and John Cornyn voting for more spending for decades.
benny johnson
How do you solve this in the state of Texas?
I want to put up this bar graph that just is simple as it's a lot of complicated data out here.
It's a complicated industry.
I'm well aware that there's no one silver bullet or kill shot in order to solve all the problems.
But look at the difference in median income versus home price in just one generation.
This is the theft of the American dream from young people and from your children.
I'm sure I have no idea how old your children are, but you said that they're getting into the job industry and they're trying to buy a home.
Look at what's been left for them.
How are you managing this in Texas?
What policies would you like to see enacted in Washington, D.C.?
What would you be fighting for to ensure the American Dream for young people?
ken paxton
Well, in Texas, we can help solve this problem.
We can't.
The price is affected by the national issues, but we have high property taxes in Texas.
And the legislature and our leadership should address it.
We've had some property tax reduction, but not nearly enough.
We should eliminate property taxes in Texas.
We have the ability to do that.
I've proposed plans that would work to do that over about a 15-year period and take property taxes off the table.
And that would help a lot of buyers in Texas.
That's what we can do.
On the federal side, it's what I said.
We got to stop spending.
We've got to reduce our spending so that interest rates come down and so that inflation comes down.
Those are the two killers, inflation and interest rates, all driven by federal spending.
benny johnson
So in the state of Texas, there has been some stoppage of construction for homes, and it comes in the form of a place called Epic City.
And it's something that you had a direct hand in, and it's something that very much is a concern to every Texan that I talk to, which is the Islamization of the state of Texas and how dangerous it is, chain migration, and the changing of Texas culture.
What are you doing?
And what is your stance against what would be like a Sharia city?
That's what was planned.
Will that ever get built?
And how are you going to confront that in order to keep Texas, Texas?
ken paxton
Yeah, so we have to focus on the law, federal law, state law, and the Constitution.
We obviously have a First Amendment.
People are free to worship however they want to.
However, we have investigated Epic City, and we believe we found problems there with how they violated state and federal securities laws.
We have referred that back to our state securities board.
We have asked them to send it back to us.
So I can refer it to them.
They have, the state securities board has to send it back to me if we are going to address this problem.
So far, I made it very public so that everybody would know it's up to them to send it back to me.
I want that case, and we will deal with it if we have the opportunity.
As far as Sharia law, that is the problem, Sharia law.
It's not that they're worshiping.
They can worship however they want, but they have to follow federal and state laws.
And that's what we're going to be looking at as we move along.
benny johnson
All right.
What is the number one thing that you wish in conclusion?
Like, what is the number one thing that you're going to do that will make you different from John Cornyn when you get to Washington, D.C.?
I think we've sufficiently ripped John Cornyn on this program.
He is a very bad representation of Texas.
What is it that you plan on setting forth as an agenda in order to differentiate yourself?
ken paxton
First of all, I'm actually going to care about the people of Texas.
He doesn't take care of the people of Texas.
That's the major complaint I hear as I travel the state.
People have asked him for help and he ignores them.
He doesn't take care of the needs of Texas.
And then he votes.
He betrays us by his votes and by what he does with the Washington establishment, more loyal to Mitch McConnell than he is to the voters of Texas.
And the problem we have is all this money gets raised in D.C.
And these Washington establishment people spend, like, I think he spent over $35 million so far since July.
I think I've spent about $250,000.
The money coming from D.C., it's unfair how these campaigns are run these days at the federal level.
And they try to tell us who we should elect by lying about him and lying about me.
And unfortunately, that's the Republican establishment and the Washington establishment in D.C. Where would you like to see this chart go?
benny johnson
Final question here.
This is the chart of foreign-born Americans.
This, I think, includes criminal aliens.
As you can see, the Trump administration has bent the trend downward for the first time in my lifetime, actually.
Yet still you have tens of millions of criminal aliens here in this country.
ken paxton
Yeah, look, I want legal immigration.
I'm not opposed to making decisions about people that we need to come to this country to help us in whatever area we're in need, whatever industry we need help in, but it's got to be decided by Congress, and they need to have a debate and a robust debate.
But our immigration laws work if we follow them.
The problem we've had is we've had presidents before Trump, Republican and Democrat, who did not enforce federal law.
So it is not right for immigration to continue to explode when it's illegal immigration.
And that's what that chart shows is a massive increase because of Republicans and Democrats who have not followed federal law.
Thank God for President Trump.
He's finally doing it.
benny johnson
Yeah, I would, I mean, I would, I would suggest a full and total complete ban on H-1B visas, deportations of people that are currently on the visa program and are doing overstays or engaging in visa fraud, and then probably like a cap on like a severe cap on legal immigration, probably down to net zero, would be where I would, I think the audience, the base, certainly where we would stand on immigration.
I do believe that America has the talent.
And perhaps that does require more training, but America does have the talent to do the jobs that are available here in this country because of our ancestors and because of what's been built here, because of the robust economy that was created and gifted to us.
And yeah, I would love to see that attitude carried forward into.
ken paxton
Here's what I'd say.
We need more people like you and me who are having more kids because we need people coming up behind to do those jobs.
It depends on the birth rate.
A lot of complicated factors, but I do know we need to follow federal law.
And this illegal immigration is not the way to go.
benny johnson
True.
True.
You know what?
Yeah.
If you and I can agree to cap all to instead, to instead like push for natal, you know, instead push for fatherhood and motherhood and the pro-family creation and incentivize that, perhaps to list like, I mean, there's a lot of things on the table, but, you know, to knock taxes way down or make taxes zero for families that create, that have children or in the act of like creating new Americans and new life.
Listing mothers as stay-at-home moms as fully employed.
I would love to see that.
And tax-free living for parents because it's extremely expensive to have kids, as you know, and as I will know.
But yeah, I'd love to see like a suite of policies that actually incentivize parenthood instead of disincentivizing family units, which is what they do in welfare, actually.
They penalize you for having a father at home or going to work.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Okay.
Well, thank you, Mr. Attorney General.
One of the single, I would argue the single most effective attorney general in the country right now is Ken Paxson, just based on his grand fights that he's had and his victories that he's had against the Biden administration.
We're thankful for him.
He's got 500,000 followers here.
Please follow him.
And if you're in Texas, make sure you're supporting this man for Senate.
All right.
Godspeed.
Thank you, Kenny.
ken paxton
Yeah, you too.
unidentified
Have a great day.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, as I said that, forgive me, as I said that, I...
I know that this is an open primary.
I know our friend Wesley Hunt is also running.
So I'm not like, I don't endorse against friends.
I like them all.
I want the best man to win.
So I don't know.
This is what it is.
You're right.
Like Wesley Hunt is a friend of the show.
Paxson's a friend of the show.
I don't want John Cornyn to win.
So how about this?
I'll do an anti-endorsement.
I don't want John Cornyn to win.
I'll endorse anyone who wins a primary against John Corny.
That's the way that we'll go here, ladies and gentlemen.
Maybe I need a better script writer, right?
I just don't want to get like we have now we've become so close with so many people and some of them are running for different positions.
And so this is just the way that we, this is the way that we roll.
Maybe I need a better script writer.
We don't have a script.
We just have like what ALX and I build every morning is like this very loose kind of like, here's an article, here's a piece.
We just kind of off the top of the dome talk about it.
If I did have a script writer, though, if I wanted a speechwriter, I'd go to ZipRecruiter, dude.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, no.
New York and New Jersey lose hundreds of billions in residents income as Americans flee to low-tax state.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
That's terrible.
Jerry, can you get me that meme?
That dude?
Like, oh, no, oh, no.
It's like the Scottish guy.
Can you get that?
It's great.
I think he's a YouTuber.
Like, I love that.
It's like, oh, no, we're going to have to do, we're going to do years of stories like this.
Years.
unidentified
We're going to do years of stuff like this.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Oh, oh, no.
Like, that's like, it's too bad.
You new analysis finds the states of New York and New Jersey have lost billions of dollars in their tax base amid an exodus of residents in recent years.
Unleashed Prosperity released a report on Tuesday that found that New York lost $500 billion in resident income from 2013 to 2022.
New Jersey lost $170 billion.
And they all went down.
They all traveled down to Florida.
That's where they went.
That's where they went.
You know, Ron Sanders says something particularly fascinating on the outset of the losses for the Republican candidate in New Jersey.
He's like, well, all the Republicans have left New Jersey and they went down to Florida.
I mean, there's a lot of data that proves that out to be true, including this one.
The report covers cumulative gains and losses of each state's resident income as the moves take their income to another state.
The movers take their income to another state in subsequent years.
Not just the first year after their move, the report was filed by the New York Post.
New York and New Jersey combined have lost two-thirds of a trillion dollars in net income purchasing power the last decade due to moving vans departing those states.
This has been one of the great wealth losses for one region for one region in American history.
New York and New Jersey are being bled to death by low-tax states in the South.
New York's losses are the largest of any state.
New Jersey's losses ranked fourth.
It's not only the financial losses, ladies and gentlemen.
It's also clearly the loss of electoral votes and political power.
unidentified
This is why we have to win in 2028.
benny johnson
There's a census in 2030, and that census begins, by the way, in 2028.
And that census will allocate electoral votes throughout the land.
And right now, and these are deeply preliminary numbers, those electoral votes would be negative two or three from the state of New York.
That's just totally devastating for Democrats.
Five from the state of California, and they'd be adding five or four to the columns of Texas and Florida, but other red states too.
So it's not just like the direct financial capital that's leaving.
It's actual power, power evaporating out.
We must win, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay, if you want to win every single morning, and boy, we've had, I'm not here, I'm never here to like cry about.
I'm a very blessed man, and I feel so blessed to like lead this team and this company, this program, the show, and to have the ability to chat with you every single day and share this moment and this movement with you and fight alongside of you.
Speaking of you, Klein, where's my chat?
Klein, where's my chat?
Chat.
I'm on my chat.
Oh, my God.
I want the chat.
unidentified
What up, Chad?
benny johnson
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I do not use drugs.
I do not use nicotine.
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We're very excited about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, blackout coffee is what is brewed.
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What kind of coffee?
It's like a thing that I think your grandfather would use.
Looks like the old coffee mug, right?
It's like the old coffee pot, percolator.
That's it.
Put the grounds in, and then you just let her go.
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Okay.
We rock and roll.
Look at this.
Oh, no.
Polymarket kid predicting when the shutdown is going to end.
Wow.
They did it.
Amazing.
Ladies and gentlemen, when will the government shutdown end?
It did actually end on November 2nd, November 12th, right there.
Right?
Yeah, that's right.
Did it end like at midnight or after midnight, ALX?
Did it end before midnight?
It ended before midnight.
So there you go.
Perfect prediction there, little kid.
Well done.
Polymarket always knows, dude.
Polymarket always knows.
All right.
You should, while there's a lot of variables and a lot of uncertainty in life, our verse of the day is not one of them.
Verse of the day from the sound and solid opinions of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and the good book from 1 Peter 2:15.
For it is God's will that by doing good, you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people.
There's so many foolish people out there right now, man.
I can't take it.
There's so many people out there that just don't understand the moment we're living in.
They don't know what time it is.
We're trying not to flame more people.
We're trying really hard not to engage in drama.
There's been so much drama.
And I know everyone, man, dude, I just, I know everyone.
I know Megan Kelly and we know Candace Owens and we know Tucker and we know the players.
And obviously we built for the last 10 years with Charlie.
And there's just a lot of drama and we're trying to keep our nose clean.
We're trying to just stay focused on the enemy.
That enemy is the Marxist, the communists at our door.
We shouldn't spend this time in fighting.
We shouldn't spend this time.
We should engage, obviously, in honorable debate for the future of the country.
And of course, everyone should have a platform and everyone has the right to speak.
And I have the right to disagree with them or to not speak at all.
Like, there's also that.
I don't know if anyone knows this.
You can also just kind of ignore it and move along.
You don't have to lose your mind on everything.
But here we have, ladies and gentlemen, a moment where a lot of ignorant people are talking, okay?
And I'm not naming them.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
But oh man, there's been some stuff that's been said over the last couple of days that has really, really pissed me off.
It finally got me.
Like Ben Shapiro is saying that you have no right to live in your hometown.
It finally broke me.
I was like, okay, we're just going to go in on this, right?
Like you have no, you have no right.
You have, you don't have you have there is nothing that says that you should be allowed to live.
What is the exact verbiage that he used?
He said, you're like, there's nothing that's the exact verbiage that he used.
Can you just pull up my read on it, ALX?
This makes me, it makes me so, it made me so angry.
It's such a, such a deep and abiding betrayal of the actual American dream.
No, no, no.
My read on it, please.
Like, like from our YouTube channel, please.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
It was deep.
It was incredibly frustrating.
I'm not going to play it, guys.
I just want the actual verbiage.
The verbiage was something like, you don't deserve to live in your hometown.
That's what it was.
You don't deserve to live in your hometown.
Man, that just made me, that just made me so frustrated.
Frustrated.
There it is.
There it is.
You don't deserve to live in your hometown.
Whoa.
Yeah, that's not going to fly around here.
And so it's important, I think, obviously, to like carve out what is the future of America and what this land is.
It's not just an economic zone for tax cattle and serfs.
It is an actual place with a heritage and a people.
It is an actual place with a culture.
It is a land that was built by good and decent and honorable men.
It is a nation that is founded on Christianity and Christian principles and is suited for a moral people and a good people and none other.
And it won't work any other way.
So I think it is critically important to have some of those debates about what this nation is and what it must, how we must see ourselves going forward.
But nonetheless, the time has come.
Time has come to get to work and to fight the Marxists, as we have always done on this show, to fight the neo-Marxist who is gaining power in this country because we have forgotten what we are supposed to do here, which is to be America first for Americans.
The only reason that someone would go, a young person would go and vote for a communist is because they are desperate.
They feel betrayed.
They feel like the system that worked for you doesn't work for them.
It's a cry for help.
And so it's something that we must answer.
We must answer that cry.
Otherwise, we're going to have a really tough road ahead of us.
So that's what we're going to be doing.
We're going to be doing it tonight.
We're going to be doing it constantly on this show.
And we are thankful.
We're thankful for you.
Yes, you do deserve to live in the hometown that your grandparents built.
Yes, you do deserve to live across from your great-grandparents' graves.
Yes, you do deserve the part of the American dream because you were born here and your family's built this nation.
And that's something that you are entitled to as a birthright.
That's something that mustn't be taken from you by multinational corporations or foreigners, people who are here as guests.
They should not rob you of your American dream.
That's yours.
They should be punished for doing that.
I'm in favor of every foreign person that wants to buy a house.
Every foreigner that comes here and wants to buy a house.
unidentified
Great.
benny johnson
100% tax on that house.
Okay, fine.
Double the price.
And that tax goes into subsidizing mortgages for Heritage Americans down payments for their houses.
unidentified
Great.
benny johnson
Have a great time, Sultan.
Buy all the beach houses.
Pay 100% tax.
That goes to getting families started.
Fine.
Fine.
Maybe you cap, maybe you cap the amount of properties you can buy.
That's something that must happen.
I'm 100% in favor of liquidating all properties that are owned by institutional capital.
No.
No.
Hedge funds are like hedge funds were the number bought a third of single-family homes in this country in the last quarter.
You want to know my home price?
Look, hedge funds and private equity bought a third of the single-family homes.
That must be illegal.
We have to force them to give up those homes.
That must be patently disallowed.
And we need to pass legislation immediately that says that that is a practice that does not happen here.
Homes are for American families and the American culture and heritage and people.
And not for you to be able to service some type of percentage point line, you know, on a PL.
That's the total manipulation of the American dream.
So yes, yes.
Like we are in faith.
We are in favor of that and we are in favor of fighting for the future.
I know this has taken like taking a little long.
It's just that Bible verse, that verse of foolish people talking too much.
Yeah, that got me.
So we're going to be out here, ladies and gentlemen, silencing foolish people for their ignorant talk.
And we pray for God's will.
We pray for his mercy.
We pray for his strength and his wisdom, his knowledge.
And we pray that we win the fight with you as we march forward together.
It's your boy Benny.
See ya.
unidentified
Welcome back to the Democrats have downs.
They're at the gate and they're off.
Jumping out in the lead is underage girls and Bill Clinton close behind.
It's a blue dress painting and a creepy island.
And now here comes the Lolita Express, a curious prince.
Andrew falls back as the FBI takes the reins.
Faulty cameras fall off quickly as a fat Bill Barr moves into position.
And here comes my guards.
Took a nap followed by the strongest bed sheets and the dumbest thing we've ever heard.
Coming down the back stretch is Maxwell the Massad agent moving ahead of dumb horny celebrities.
But coming on the inside is leveraged politicians and a blackmail operation.
It's Binders Bondi followed by 10,000 hours of footage.
Awful footage.
Boxes of evidence is challenging for second going into the clubhouse turn.
Passing on the rail is a creepy temple that looks like Ellen DeGeneres studio backdrop, followed by cardboard in the windows, a giggling Bill Gates, and in general, you always have to be careful.
Here they come spinning out of the turn.
Epstein didn't kill himself, is in the lead, but here comes Cash and Bongino.
No arrests and public outrage are neck and neck, and down the stretch they come.
Pedos run our government is pulling away from disappearing victims by a length, but coming in strong.
Is no videos exist, but I saw the video and nothing is wrong.
And at the wire, it's the media colluding with Epstein, a conspiracy to finish Trump.
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