Oct. 15, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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In the White House, it was a packed crowd in front of uh friends and family as Erica Kirk was able to receive in the honor of Charlie Kirk the Congressional Medal of Freedom. | |
| Yeah, it was beautiful. | ||
| It was in the Rose Ceremony. | ||
| A lot of people were there, and uh the president signed a form or um some sort of uh national proclamation and national day of remembrance for Charlie Kirk with Erica in the Oval Office, and also he presented her with the medal of freedom for her husband, and for the first time a Christian cross was engraved on the back of the presidential medal of freedom because Charlie's powerful work in advancing the kingdom of Jesus Christ. | ||
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Here's the president. | |
| Charles James Kirk was a visionary and one of the greatest figures of his generation. | ||
| He was truly an amazing figure and growing leaps and bounds. | ||
| Charlie grew turning point into the largest conservative youth organization in the entire country. | ||
| He forged a personal bond with countless young conservatives. | ||
| He fought for free speech, religious liberty, strong borders, and a very strong and proud America. | ||
| In everything he did, he put America first. | ||
| He really put America first. | ||
| And ultimately, Charlie became more than a leader of an important organization. | ||
| He became the leader of historic movements all over the country. | ||
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Of course, it was his 32nd birthday. | |
| That's how he got the award. | ||
| And she joked about saying that I finally found it so hard to shop for him. | ||
| But she finally saw it. | ||
| Because he wasn't materialistic. | ||
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Wasn't materialistic. | |
| Had he shopped for someone on their birthday. | ||
| But he did get the best present. | ||
| Here she is. | ||
| He didn't fear being slandered. | ||
| He did not. | ||
| He didn't fear losing friends. | ||
| I can tell you that. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| He didn't care. | ||
| He stood for truth and stood for freedom. | ||
| And he did not. | ||
| Everything else was just noise to him. | ||
| And it's because his confidence in Christ was absolute. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| There was no limit. | ||
| No limit to what he would have sacrificed to defend freedom. | ||
| For all. | ||
| And if the moment had come. | ||
| He probably would have run for president. | ||
| But not out of ambition. | ||
| He would only have done it if that was something that he believed that his country needed. | ||
| From a servant's heart standpoint. | ||
| And Charlie lived only 31 short years. | ||
| No, he's 32. | ||
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But on this side of heaven. | |
| You know, one of the things is Charlie. | ||
| You know, he signed up to be this public figure. | ||
| And his parents are very private. | ||
| And one of the things that the president did. | ||
| You know, wherever the president is, the cameras are. | ||
| It's just the reality. | ||
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He's the leader of the free world. | |
| He waited until the press pool left. | ||
| And then he went to greet his mom and dad. | ||
| And they're rightfully broken right now for what's happening. | ||
| I found myself in a train at the station. | ||
| When it hits home. | ||
| I want to be left alone. | ||
| Please take me far, far away. | ||
| I can't watch it anymore. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh She covers her face. | ||
| You might call me hateful Bigger than racist I win for the next three. | ||
| and reach my Can't fix a savage animal rabbit. | ||
| And damage. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| And guess what my friend? | ||
| everything will be okay Guess what day? | ||
| What day? | ||
| Yeah, Trump Day Woo-hoo Oh, oh, oh. | ||
| you Going on, guys. | ||
| We are back here in Washington, D.C. after an epic date yesterday, Charlie Kirk Medal of Freedom Ceremony at the White House. | ||
| Today is Wednesday, October 15, 2025. | ||
| We're going to do something different on the show today. | ||
| We are going to be speaking with a congressional Democrat, pretty well known guy, named Roe Connor. | ||
| He is from California. | ||
| He is somebody who has never been on the show before, but who reached out to me after Charlie Kirk's assassination and said, I'd like to have a conversation. | ||
| I'd like to like start bridging the gap here. | ||
| And so we're very excited to have that conversation. | ||
| And we don't want to miss it. | ||
| And we're obviously on a different schedule today, but it's something that I think is gonna be the work of us continuing the legacy of our friend. | ||
| Charlie's just my friend, man. | ||
| Like I just love that guy. | ||
| And he was constantly reaching out to the individuals on the left, people who are lost, clearly. | ||
| And he made his career goal, the ability to bridge those gaps. | ||
| And he was bringing people together constantly, whether it's RFK and Trump, JD Vance and Trump, or whether it's him bridging the gaps on college campuses uh with pink-haired lesbians, right? | ||
| Like that he would speak with uh on college campuses. | ||
| It was what his life's work was. | ||
| And he stood up for his principles, and he didn't cuck out, but he made a clear and honest and moral case, and he did so in good faith. | ||
| And so that's what we're gonna do today, ladies and gentlemen, on the program as we honor Charlie, like we did at the White House yesterday. | ||
| Ro Connell will be joining the show. | ||
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| Erica Kirk fights back a tears as Trump presents her with Charlie's Medal of Freedom. | ||
| A beautiful moment uh at the White House yesterday. | ||
| I want to just jump in and share with you uh what this medal of freedom looked like. | ||
| This is uh the cross that was engraved on the back of it. | ||
| I know that we made a lot of news yesterday uh talking about this, uh, but Erica showed me and she wanted me to show you this cross. | ||
| This is the first time that a Christian crucifix has ever been engraved in the presidential medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor. | ||
| A beautiful, beautiful work from the Trump administration. | ||
| And I hear little birdies inside the Trump administration tell me, um, well, this was actually very hard to do, and they had to push for it very, very mightily in order to get it done. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Uh, an incredible ceremony. | ||
| Obviously, uh, President Trump sounding off on his dear friend Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| One month after Charlie's death, we still feel the terrible shock and the pain of his loss, like just about nobody I can think of. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was one of a kind. | ||
| He was unstoppable. | ||
| And he really was. | ||
| Boy, when he had an idea in his head, oh, he was he would call me. | ||
| Sir, please, you haven't done it yet. | ||
| So, Charlie, relax. | ||
| Just relax. | ||
| He didn't relax. | ||
| He'd call me the next day again. | ||
| It got it done. | ||
| But he was like indomitable and always will be. | ||
| He's really irreplaceable. | ||
| Nobody can replace him. | ||
| But they're going to do great. | ||
| But you can't replace that kind of person. | ||
| And that kind of talent, frankly. | ||
| The word talent is an important word, but that kind of talent. | ||
| So we hold his memory in our hearts forever, every single day of this administration. | ||
| We will continue to carry out the mission for which he lived, and he really did. | ||
| He lived for this country. | ||
| He lived for his wife and his family, but he lived for this country too. | ||
| In Charlie's honor, uh we will continue like we have been to fight, fight, fight, and to win win-win. | ||
| We're going to win so much. | ||
| There's a completely beautiful thing. | ||
| It was uh amazing to see Erica and so many friends at this event. | ||
| It was um the most beautiful day I've ever seen at the White House. | ||
| I've lived in DC for 15 years. | ||
| I've never seen the White House so gorgeous. | ||
| It was like the heavens just opened up. | ||
| And uh revealed this. | ||
| Don Jr. walking down the hallway of presidents. | ||
| The only other video I really want to show you is uh Don Jr. | ||
| Let's uh we'll go ahead and listen to this. | ||
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So we have a new uh great wall of presidents. | |
| This is me. | ||
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Um but it gets really good towards the end, guys. | |
| I think you want to probably see this. | ||
| Grant Cleveland, McKinley, Roosevelt, you know, in order. | ||
| Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, other Bush, Obama, Trump, and the autopen. | ||
| Because, in all fairness, the autopen was running things for the last four years prior to Trump two. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So many good people. | ||
| So many people there, uh, good people there yesterday. | ||
| I know we have a couple photos. | ||
| Again, I don't want to belabor this. | ||
| We obviously uh shared uh a lot of this yesterday, but here's some of the crew, obviously, that defended Charlie uh with every every inch of their uh lives, and every single day went into battle with Charlie. | ||
| You know many of the faces there. | ||
| Uh Blake Neff, Jack Pesovic, uh, Tyler Boyer, and Andrew Colvet. | ||
| Uh also some legends uh in the audience. | ||
| Uh this was a really neat lineup of well, the Fox News Power lineup here. | ||
| Bill O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Jesse Waters, Laura Ingram. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| What an incredible lineup. | ||
| Do we have the photo of me and Meg and Kelly and Jesse Waters? | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Uh we got some great quality time with Megan Kelly yesterday. | ||
| Everyone, it was just really neat to roll and hang out. | ||
| And Jesse had me on the show last night. | ||
| And uh, yeah, it's just an honor to it's just an honor to see so many. | ||
| It's just neat to see so many people uh showing up to honor Charlie. | ||
| Uh it was truly like the it was a a true and proper powerhouse uh in Washington, D.C. There's also a massive statue of George Washington that has been applied uh to the Rose Garden that I thought was cool. | ||
| Look at the size of that thing. | ||
| Um yeah, this is there it is, right there. | ||
| Megan Kelly, God gave us beautiful, sunny, perfect afternoon to celebrate Charlie and his presidential medal of freedom on what would have been his 32nd birthday. | ||
| It's good to spend it with some old friends at the White House. | ||
| Benny, button your jacket. | ||
| Uh stop eating so many cinnamon rolls. | ||
| That's the message right there. | ||
| Uh, ladies and gentlemen, we also got one final thing. | ||
| We also got to see uh the Donald Trump brand new flagpole. | ||
| And you can see it in that photo, but also as you as you walk by it, you just realize how majestic this thing is. | ||
| It's freaking awesome flagpole. | ||
| Have not seen in person, and I'm seeing it for the first time are these massive flagpoles of that President Trump installed at his own expense. | ||
| It costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
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It's hard to really describe how this is um, yeah. | |
| This this was an amazing day. | ||
| It wasn't it was just an honor to be invited and uh an important moment to sort of crystallize like what we're doing here. | ||
| We're going to continue the work of Charlie. | ||
| We're gonna continue the work of Charlie today. | ||
| We're gonna have a Democrat on the show in a second. | ||
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| I don't know, dude. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, with the uh moment that we had yesterday at the White House. | ||
| I want a moment of I want a moment of peace. | ||
| I also want a moment of us uh people stopping dying. | ||
| I don't want people uh I don't want to political violence. | ||
| And so let's see if we can like have that moment uh with Rokana. | ||
| Rokana, give us like a second to switch up the studio is gonna be an in-person guest here. | ||
| Um and let's rock and roll uh with the well, the highest profile Democrat who is who has yet to be on the show, and hopefully not the last, right? | ||
| Because we need to have these conversations. | ||
| So let's rock and roll with Ro Khanna, Congressman from California right now. | ||
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So let's rock and roll with Ro Khanna. | |
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are honored today to have in the studio live with us, Ro Connor of California. | ||
| Congressman is joining us live. | ||
| Welcome to the program. | ||
| Welcome to Benny Show. | ||
| Well, thanks for uh having me. | ||
| Look, uh it started out because I reached out to you uh offering condolences on the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And I knew because you show up in my feeds, uh, how close you were on a human level. | ||
| And to me, uh something is broken when we're not able to offer condolences to each other, even if we disagree. | ||
| And then I'm so sorry for what your family is going through. | ||
| I mean, horrific. | ||
| They're having someone you don't know threaten to eliminate not just you, but your wife and kids. | ||
| Uh appalling. | ||
| And uh he needs to be brought to justice. | ||
| And I'm sorry on a human level, what you've been going through. | ||
| I'm just really happy that the DOJ has taken action. | ||
| Nobody should have to live like this. | ||
| We certainly aren't the only ones who get death threats. | ||
| It happens a lot. | ||
| I was actually helping a well-known, I won't name them because I'll destroy their career, but a well-known leftist uh yesterday who has gotten some really credible death threats. | ||
| And it's not anything that should ever happen. | ||
| It's hard enough to raise a family as it is, and you shouldn't do that under terroristic threatening. | ||
| I mean, right? | ||
| Like we're all calm about it, but people, I mean, as a family to threaten your kids to threaten to eliminate you. | ||
| Uh this person deserves the book thrown at them. | ||
| And we were talking about how you may not fess up to it, but you had Democrats at your wedding. | ||
| And you know, there's there used to be a time in in this country where you have strong hard agreements on where the country is going, but we could talk to each other, uh, still have friendships across party lines, try to understand each other, recognize that none of us have a monopoly on the truth that you know we all have blind spots. | ||
| And so I I appreciate your inviting me just to have a conversation. | ||
| It's maybe it's Iowa nice. | ||
| I don't know what what it is, but there's there needs to be more dialogue in this country. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't agree more. | ||
| I want everyone to know that Rokana before almost anyone after Charlie's death, reached out. | ||
| And I don't know how he got my email. | ||
| Well, we had never spoken before, and not out of animosity, but just we didn't have any professional necessity to speak at that time. | ||
| Uh and he reached out, like the congressman reached out right away and said, How do we fix this? | ||
| Like what happened to Charlie was horrible. | ||
| And what can we do to make sure that it doesn't happen to any other American? | ||
| And that is just like such an honorable baseline, such a human baseline that I think is missed uh by some people in your party, by some people who've used this as an opportunity to further desecrate uh dance on Charlie's grave. | ||
| It's been tough to see, it's been tough to watch. | ||
| Um, and it's what makes people cold and bitter, actually, is seeing that that the even in even after this man's widow, uh wife is widowed and children are orphaned, um, that there's still no humanity uh left. | ||
| And I don't want, you know, you don't want to live in a country like that, right? | ||
| You don't want to live in a country where people will celebrate the death of somebody that they disagree with politically or want to assassinate them, and you can't unite with that. | ||
| And in order to have a country that functions, you have to be able to agree on more than you disagree on. | ||
| Um and so anyway, it was just refreshing to see. | ||
| Um, it's been it's been nice to see. | ||
| It's been great to do this. | ||
| This is why we're having this conversation. | ||
| Well, I appreciate that. | ||
| Look, I think we have to be able to see uh each other's humanity. | ||
| It shouldn't be uh a big high bar to say we condemn political assassinations, that if there is a political assassination and you know someone's close to them, that you reach out and you offer condolences, that your heart breaks for someone's wife and their kids, and uh that we can see each other as Americans ultimately. | ||
| That doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything Charlie stood for in terms of I mean, that Charlie wouldn't want that. | ||
| He would if we want to have a conversations about the you know uh places of disagreement, fine. | ||
| And we can get into that uh in terms of uh where people agree or disagree, but it it should be done in a way of uh honoring our country's ability to have uh dialogue, debate, uh, and and seeing each other as as humans. | ||
| It's it was tough watching Ilhan Omar and AOC, right? | ||
| Use as an opportunity to attack Charlie. | ||
| I mean, obviously you disagree with them, but to not have Democrats vote to disavow political violence, right? | ||
| There's like I think there was 53 Democrats that did that. | ||
| Then Ilhan Omar, you know, using it as a real opportunity to attack Charlie, you know, saying that um, you know, he his his opinion belongs in the dustbin of history, you know, his his worldview belongs in the dustbin of history, um, that she's not gonna honor the shitty person. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's just an it's just a nastiness. | ||
| Well, she don't want to say that. | ||
| Well, she's had a lot of death threats too, right? | ||
| She's had we've got a but look, I I think there's here's where people are coming from on the Democratic side, so we can have an honest conversation. | ||
| I think even Ilhan or AOC would unequivocally condemn the the murder of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| If they were here, they at a human level would express uh an empathy for you as someone who knew him. | ||
| Uh I'm I'm sure of that. | ||
| I mean, I and and maybe we as a party needed to do that more. | ||
| But there are places with where Charlie had views that were deeply hurtful uh to to people on our side. | ||
| Two of those views were uh what he had said about the the Civil Rights Act, right? | ||
| I mean, if it weren't for the Civil Rights Act, the Immigration Reform Act, my parents wouldn't have been able to come to the United States, I wouldn't be in the United States Congress. | ||
| And then what the comments he had made about Michelle Obama and Kitanja Jackson Brown. | ||
| So I I don't think it's it's beyond the pill, you tell me if I'm wrong to be criticizing that he was assassinated, right? | ||
| So like he was he was assassinated by the left, so he's killed. | ||
| And so yes, so he's assassinated, and it just seems like it seems like those are the kind of moments where you can set that stuff aside. | ||
| Let me give you an example. | ||
| Right now, Joe Biden has stage five metastasized cancer to his bones. | ||
| As this is a death sentence, um, according to you know, they say there's some therapies, but let's say at least most medical uh professionals say that, yeah, and it's terrible. | ||
| And I've seen members of my family die of cancer, right? | ||
| And I think that the um that Joe Biden is the worst president of my lifetime. | ||
| I don't like Joe Biden. | ||
| And I and I you really think that I I do. | ||
| I think it's I think it was a really bad president. | ||
| And when I heard that about his cancer diagnosis, you like take the political and you set it aside. | ||
| And no matter what I thought of Joe Biden, and no matter how hard I fought to make sure that Joe Biden wasn't president, you take it and you compartmentalize it and you put it aside and you say a prayer for Joe. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Because you had said this to me privately as well. | ||
| I mean, this is not something I wanna, you know, and so there's like these two planes that I think are really important, right? | ||
| Where it's like there's the plane of we're working to figure out what the best ideas for this country are. | ||
| And then there's the human plane, where it's like, I really don't, I'm it's terrible that Joe Biden is gonna suffer through this terrible cancer treatment that I've seen myself personally affect my family, millions of other Americans. | ||
| And so I'm gonna say a prayer for him that his, you know, whatever days God has for him are painless. | ||
| Um, and and there I feel like there's moments, there's like there's like shit, there's like moments where you can shift, hopefully, from one to the other, right? | ||
| To the human side. | ||
| And I wish more of America saw the human side, right? | ||
| And and that they we it doesn't all have to be political. | ||
| It doesn't, it doesn't have to be Charlie Kirk was killed, and that's bad. | ||
| But you know, here's everything I hate about him. | ||
| I, you know, and that and that and that's what I try I've tried to do. | ||
| And I I haven't seen any conservatives dancing on Joe Biden's, you know, grave, so to speak. | ||
| I haven't seen anybody celebrating the horrible thing that's happening to Joe Biden. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people praying for him and saying, you know, we hope we hope that he lives a painless, you know, whatever days God has for him our panelists. | ||
| But I but there were a lot of leftists that were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, and that will, and and I'm trying what I what I want is to try and figure out you know what it what is that exactly? | ||
| You know, why is that happening? | ||
| Um because that is something that's bothered a lot of people. | ||
| Well, look, the celebration of his death was was horrific, disgusting, appalling. | ||
| I mean, I I uh am never met uh Erica, but I saw her uh comments about forgiving uh Charlie's killer, and to me that uh was what Christianity is is all about, right? | ||
| Forgiveness, redemption, uh, and I I saw his kids, I saw this clip of uh Charlie being interviewed and his daughter running to to hug him, and uh at a human level your heart goes out to the family. | ||
| The question then is okay, you know, and I know you're sincere about praying for for Joe Biden because you've told me that not just in this interview that before. | ||
| But if there was a, you know, if you were in the Congress and there is a resolution just to have an honest conversation that says Joe Biden was the greatest president uh in uh in American history, hypothetically, you know, and uh let's wish it well for cancer. | ||
| You could see why that would maybe I would never say Joe Biden's the president. | ||
| You say to it's because what the resolution for Charlie was was just to honor his life, right? | ||
| And so you know, so I would be like, Yeah, Joe Biden was president and and he you know had a you know he did he did his career, you know, here in the Senate and in uh the federal government. | ||
| If I was a member of Congress, I would find that okay. | ||
| So we're gonna on so Joe by so Joe Biden has terminal cancer, we're gonna honor his life and well, his service, and say that that cancer's bad, right? | ||
| I would totally vote for it, gone vote, like voted for it, like fine, you know, fine. | ||
| That's not even hard, right? | ||
| But it was, you know, I don't want to. | ||
| I'm just trying to get to the core of like the humanity that we're losing, right? | ||
| Which is it's see that's been on full display. | ||
| Like the the humanity loss has been it's been tough to see. | ||
| Now, there's been some members like your you, John Fetterman, uh, who've just like come out front and been like, no, like that it we're not gonna use this as an opportunity to attack Charlie further or to celebrate his death. | ||
| And I think that that's like a like a rock bottom basement that we can like build from, actually, that political violence is wrong, uh, and that we shouldn't celebrate it and we shouldn't shouldn't want more of it, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, uh unequivocal condemnation of the violence, uh empathy for people who have suffered from it, the uh ability to condemn uh violence to you, to your family, threats of violence. | ||
| I mean, unambiguously thinking how we tone tone down and and uh understand how we bring down the temperature in this country. | ||
| Uh you know, I mean, I've can condemned I got some hot wires on Hugh Hewitt, and I said that the attorney general uh who was running in Virginia that those tweets were beyond the pale that I can support him in in good conscience when he's threatening to kill uh uh the speaker of the house uh in and and texting that. | ||
| I mean, that's not a that's not a high bar. | ||
| But at the same time, you call for him to drop out of the race, J Jones. | ||
| I don't call for him to I never call for anyone to drop out, but I said that I don't I wouldn't support him, I don't endorse him. | ||
| I wouldn't, I I don't support support him and I condemn those tweets. | ||
| But I but it's for the people to decide in terms of uh whether it's Republican Democrat, we have a democracy. | ||
| It's like people who are calling for Donald Trump to drop out because he had charges or uh I I just think we need, but we need to be clear that those th that I wouldn't if he called me up today and said, Would you endorse me? | ||
| I wouldn't endorse him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I don't support him. | ||
| But at the same time, the group chat, I mean, I know people have dismissed this, but you know, you got these 20, 30 year old folks talking about uh insults to to uh to to people who are Jewish to people before we get to that because I'm I'm happy to talk about that. | ||
| And I want to uh obviously talk about the differences between the two of them, but um Jay Jones, yeah. | ||
| He texted Republicans that he wanted to kill them, he wanted to shoot him with bullets, and called them and harassed them, and then he said he wanted to kill their children, right? | ||
| Call their children little fascists. | ||
| This is the exact same thing that happened to me, and a man is now in prison for it, a Californian man from San Diego. | ||
| And he's in jail for doing the same thing, threatening my family and threatening to kill me. | ||
| And so how do you how do you parse the difference there between the results? | ||
| Because Jay Jones, who did that to a Republican, is on the ballot in Virginia and still has a considerable amount of Democrat support. | ||
| I haven't seen Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi uh call for him to drop out of the race or even to condemn actually, he still has the full support of the DNC, the DCC. | ||
| Um how do you know how do you square that? | ||
| Because what that says to someone like me is we're gonna like selectively choose you know where we find condemnation for this. | ||
| We actually we actually don't think that's wrong. | ||
| Abigail Spanberger hasn't called for him to drop out. | ||
| I mean, that seems like a it seems like the lowest possible threshold is like you shouldn't be asking for people to die, you know, asking for Republicans to be killed. | ||
| Look, I I don't think he should be supported. | ||
| I mean, that's that's and I I don't think we should be uh in in endorsing him uh in because of what those those those texts were pretty uh horrible. | ||
| Now, yeah, I don't think you would say he should be prosecuted, the guy who threatened you should be prosecuted because there was an actionable intent to uh to to actually harm you, and we have a broad first amendment in this country for a reason that but there's a difference between saying someone's speech uh maybe protected under the first amendment, uh, and that we should be supporting them as a political candidate. | ||
| But you know, but it's refreshing to hear someone say it though. | ||
| I mean, I guess it's refreshing to hear I'm I'm uh I'm not trying to put the screws to you. | ||
| I'm I I appreciate the fact that you're able to just disavow it. | ||
| Yeah, and I and look, I'm sure there'll be some people upset it maybe because they'll they'll say, you know, it's a close race and he's on the ballot, and are you not going to endorse him or support him given that it's neck and neck and uh no, I I can't. | ||
| I can't support someone who uh threatens violence in that way, and it's not like someone not it's not like okay, the next day he woke up and then he texted, I'm really sorry I was having a moment, right? | ||
| It's three years later. | ||
| Uh that that that's not the type of politics. | ||
| But let me ask you this, because I I want to the the why why on the left that the the hurt in terms of these issues and take take um take Kirk out uh out of it, because obviously his he was murdered and and and sympathies, and you were a genuine friend of his and his his family, and I know that that's been painful. | ||
| When you look at the the issues that that the left has been hurt by, this idea of the civil rights movement, right? | ||
| And the civil rights act and this I that overcomes segregation in the South. | ||
| And uh I was talking to someone the other day who said, you know, when he grew up in the South, he couldn't go through the front door of the restaurant, he used to go through the back door, but it didn't really matter because he was too poor to buy anything. | ||
| And growing up in the South black meant being black and poor. | ||
| And then we have Dr. King, we have the civil rights movement. | ||
| Now we have uh the end of Jim Crow, you have the Immigration Reform Act that allows people like my parents to come to the United States. | ||
| I'm born in Philadelphia. | ||
| Do you see how people would be hurt if it's anyone saying, well, we don't believe in the Civil Rights Act, or you know, if anyone's an African American woman in a high in a high place like Katanja Jackson Brown were questioning their intelligence. | ||
| I I'm saying I'm trying to, you know, because in the spirit of having this honest conversation, I'm telling you where totally where that hurt comes from. | ||
| And I I again I've said it before, but I'll say it now. | ||
| Like I love that we're having this conversation. | ||
| You can't fix the country if you can't have conversations like this. | ||
| I hope that more Democrats come on the show and we can have more civilized conversations and have more spirited debate because that's the only way that you start seeing each other as human, actually. | ||
| It's easy when it's an avatar, right? | ||
| When it's like the a meme online, right? | ||
| When it's something that's not inhuman, but I'm a physical, I'm I'm a human being. | ||
| I have kids, I have real children that I'm really raising. | ||
| I'm just a dad. | ||
| I'm just a normal dude, right? | ||
| Just like everybody else, like just like you and and your family, and we're just normal dudes, and we're all in the ship together. | ||
| And if the ship sinks, if America fails, like we all fail together, and it sucks for all of us, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's the greatest country in the world, right? | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| We used to like, well, we used to say I don't like I I know you do, but I'm not sure that many I'm not sure. | ||
| I think that that's actually the difference between now and the nineties is that the majority, I think I'm not I think there's a considerable perhaps still minority of voters that are not sure if America is the greatest country in the world and aren't aware of tell you this is the greatest country. | ||
| I'm in cheers to that. | ||
| And this country elected me to represent the richest, most powerful economically prosperous place in the world, Silicon Valley. | ||
| This is a country where still your dreams can come true from whatever uh background you are. | ||
| It's an incredible place. | ||
| But uh the reason I have this conversation, a lot of times people get together like us, we have a dialogue, and then we don't get people are it's sort of the niceties, and they don't get to the yeah the heart. | ||
| So please let me get to the heart of the issue that you just brought up. | ||
| So you're talking about hurt, and you're talking about people's feelings being hurt or someone's like like core beliefs. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's important. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that's a level that we have to like talk about. | ||
| I'm talking about people getting shot and killed. | ||
| That's a different level of hurt. | ||
| So when the president takes a bullet to the head, that's hurt. | ||
| When Corey Comper Torre gets killed in front of his wife and children, that's hurt. | ||
| When Charlie Kirk gets struck in the neck and killed, that's hurt. | ||
| And millions of people see it. | ||
| That's actual hurt. | ||
| That's physical violence. | ||
| When a church in Minneapolis gets shot up, right? | ||
| Uh, that's and the children praying there are killed, that's hurt. | ||
| When ICE facilities get shot up by snipers with anti-ICE iconography carved in the bullets, that's hurt. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| This is hurt. | ||
| And so we to in order to get to the next level of politics where we talk about these issues, right? | ||
| Marginal tax rates and health care, right? | ||
| And the civil rights act, you have to stop the kill. | ||
| You have to stop the physical killing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely before you can even talk about that stuff. | ||
| But they don't exist, they don't exist in the same plane. | ||
| One's one, you know, one is esoteric and it's a policy, and the other one is war, right? | ||
| And and that, and that's and so when Jay Jones, I want to bring this all back to Jay Jones. | ||
| When there's a Democrat on the ballot in Virginia to be the top law enforcement agent of that state, and there are three million Democrats registered in Virginia, and millions of them vote for a man that says he wants to kill Republicans and their children because they're little fascists. | ||
| What message is that sending? | ||
| And when the Democrat Party can't disavow that individual, well, what message is that sending to Republicans? | ||
| You want to talk about hurt, Congressman. | ||
| That's hurt. | ||
| And it's now it's no longer something that is uh esoteric. | ||
| It's something that's physically happening. | ||
| We're witnessing it happening. | ||
| I just saw it happen to my family three days ago, right? | ||
| With the DOJ charges. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's like these are real. | ||
| When somebody shows you who they are, believe them. | ||
| You know, these are these are real, that's that's real hurt. | ||
| And so I think that's a major divide in the country right now, right? | ||
| Because from a Republican standpoint, from a conservative standpoint, we're seeing the actual physical bullets and the actual, you know, death of generational leaders, our president taking a bullet to the head. | ||
| Look, I mean, look, what happened to the president and every Democrat, including President Biden, vice president Harris condemned within hours the horrific assassination attempt at at Butler. | ||
| Uh the 99% of elected Democrats condemned the the horrific uh assassination of Charlie Curry. | ||
| But you would agree that this violence has not been one-sided, right? | ||
| I mean, I I guess, and I the vice president and I have debated a lot, Vance, but one of the things that I was disappointed is for him to say, well, it's all this the violence in the left. | ||
| What about? | ||
| And I don't want to make it a whataboutism, but sure. | ||
| What about when uh Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul Pelosi was beaten with a with a hammer in his house? | ||
| What about the assassination? | ||
| Well, hold on, hold on. | ||
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What about the assassination? | |
| That guy's kids describe him as a leftist. | ||
| He lived in a trailer with a BLM sign. | ||
| What about Gretchen Whitmer and the governor and and and militias who captured her? | ||
| What about the the threat? | ||
| You're saying all these things, but you're not giving me a you know, you're you're casting these the this happened to me on cable news the other night when they said, Well, what about the pulse night club shooting? | ||
| That's that's right wing violence. | ||
| That was ISIS violence, bro. | ||
| That well, that has nothing to do with the right wing. | ||
| They're not the right wing if I disavow them. | ||
| And I don't, I uh Nancy Pelosi's attack. | ||
| So let's let's start on the level. | ||
| It's horrible to attack Paul Pelosi in his home. | ||
| That was awful. | ||
| I just about I disavow that violence entirely President Trump should have it more clearly. | ||
| I mean, he was kind of mocking it. | ||
| So that man has a very unique story. | ||
| And if you actually want to get down to the details, his family describes him as a as a left-wing environmentalist who supported Democrats. | ||
| He lived inside of a house with BLM signs in it. | ||
| And and so you're saying you're ascribing that as right wing violence. | ||
| It's not right wing violence, I don't think. | ||
| I'm not saying either way, I disavow it. | ||
| Either way, I disavow it. | ||
| It's not even hard for me, right? | ||
| Do you do you are you willing to criticize President Trump's reactions to John McCain, to Paul Pelosi, to the the absence of condemnation when the Minnesota I'm not here to speak for the president, I'm here to speak for myself. | ||
| And I can and and I respect the fact that you're speaking for yours, Felt with Jay Jones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like I I guess the point is that there's there's in this country, and I'm not saying that there aren't problems on our side. | ||
| There's in this country a feeling that the the that that that violence has taken place against people on the left. | ||
| I'm not saying that literally by someone on the right, but that the right, the leaders of the right uh from the president have not been as unequivocal in condemning that uh as they should be. | ||
| But the but come on, we both have like functional brainstems and eyeballs. | ||
| You can see that the vast majority of the modern political violence is on the left, and that's what all available data shows. | ||
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That's not that's what the the ADL does that is reporting. | |
| You can't use the ADL because the ADL uses prison uses prison violence and ascribes right wing or ascribes white nationalist prison violence as uh right as right wing hate. | ||
| We disavow that entirely. | ||
| That's not part of our movement. | ||
| You can't bundle that data together. | ||
| I refuse to uh acknowledge that data on this program. | ||
| The point is, what what is the gain from even arguing whether it's left or right is more to blame? | ||
| Why not just come together and say that it's all wrong? | ||
| Totally, and you all wrong. | ||
| And I can I can tell you this. | ||
| As a matter of fact, if a Republican was running right now, yeah, that said that Democrat children should be slaughtered because they're little communists, right? | ||
| And that I want to kill the Texas kill Democrats. | ||
| I would be calling for that person to be banished from the party. | ||
| I'd say that's absolutely totally morally repugnant and indefensible. | ||
| And what I'm saying right now is that the Democrats have a man who's running for the chief law for enforcement position in Virginia, it's a big powerful state, right? | ||
| Half the federal government's in that state, and you know, he hasn't been no like it's barely even been covered. | ||
| And so that signals that it's appropriate. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| I don't want the signal that that's appropriate. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But but that's why I want the guy. | ||
| That's why I'm glad the guy was arrested. | ||
| You know, that came after my family. | ||
| I want to signal that it's important that we can't tolerate this in society. | ||
| Right, you know, but but but it's not been a uh a one-sided problem on the devolution of public discourse. | ||
| Of course, to say that it's all 100% one side, it that that's on the democratic side that just to share the perspective that there is a sense that the president, whatever you think of him, uh, you know, when he came and he's calling about deporting Ilhan Omar saying that at a rally, who's an American citizen in the Congress when he's not condemning Paul Pelosi's incident of Hammer, but he's joking about it, joking about McCain, joking about not condemning uh unequivocally what happened. | ||
| It took a week to cover the the the arson, anti-Semitic arson of Josh Shapiro's home in in Pennsylvania. | ||
| That also a man of the left, a big pro-Palestine guy. | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| I that's a matter of fact. | ||
| But the the question is not so more left-wing violence. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| And I condemn it, by the way, like completely. | ||
| You and maybe if you were president, we would have had that response within hours. | ||
| But what we've had is a a sense where uh the the Trump and others have not haven't done it. | ||
| I'm not holding it. | ||
| I stood with the attorney general 72 hours ago, and she condemned all of those, including the Minnesota attack, uh Josh Shapiro attack. | ||
| The attorney general is top law enforcement official, and she'll go she uh she in her speech right in front of me. | ||
| I was a foot from her, she condemned all of that, of course. | ||
| Yeah, because it's like not even hard to do. | ||
| Well, I my hope is that this can become the baseline. | ||
| Maybe we can start with this that regardless of uh who the violence is against uh or who the random suspect is. | ||
| Sometimes it's a mental health issue, sometimes it's uh in an issue of motives. | ||
| We can come together, uh, Republicans, Democrats, unequivocal uh condemnation within hours and zero tolerance. | ||
| I think if if we establish that, Betty, I love it. | ||
| There would be uh I love it. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| I want Paul Pelosi to also live a happy, you know, a happy and long you know, like I like of course these things are wrong. | ||
| This guy's from California. | ||
| I haven't, I mean, do you think that I'll hear anything from Gavin Newsom about this about the guy who threatened my family? | ||
| You should. | ||
| I mean, I I'm happy to reach out to him. | ||
| And I mean, I uh it's a federal crime, but uh but uh you know, we've got to tone down the the the anger, the hate, the insult. | ||
| And here's the question, Benny, but on a deeper level. | ||
| Please we can keep going down a politics that's gonna insult each other, right? | ||
| I mean, uh Trump does a meme, Gavin does a meme. | ||
| There's a you know, they're d mocking Each other's physical appearance. | ||
| I mean, you're laughing, but that's no, I mean this has become like the gladiator. | ||
| I mean, the best thing the left has going for them digitally is Gavin Newsom having a stan account that just copies Trump like on every tweet. | ||
| And it's like we're very close to the people that do like Trump social media, and that's that that's what Gavin's doing. | ||
| And he's going gangbusters on it. | ||
| You know, it's like it's actually remarkable to watch. | ||
| It's and that can be that can be the uh the future of America, yeah. | ||
| Uh or we can try to say that uh we can have ferocious competition, but on a debate about ideas, about a debate about uh where we stand on on uh on things like how we bring manufacturing back, how we grow the economy, how how we deal with AI, how we make sure we're ahead of China, and we can debate these issues, and we can do it in a way that is spirited, that is competitive, but isn't uh like Roman gladiators and and and mud wrestling. | ||
| And uh maybe we just keep going down this kind of uh uh shock jock politics. | ||
| Yeah, I I don't think that's what's gonna keep America preeminent if we do that. | ||
| And what I'd like to do, which I did with Vivek Ramaswamy in a conversation, uh when he was running for president, is we had an hour and a half long conversation, deep divisions, but in an elevated plane. | ||
| And I I wish the vice president would do that. | ||
| The guy's obviously educated. | ||
| He went to you know Ohio State, went to Yale. | ||
| He's it it no one questions his intellect. | ||
| Why is it always okay? | ||
| Let's figure out how we insult or mock. | ||
| And I'm not saying I'm perfect. | ||
| Why not why not turn it around? | ||
| A new generation post-Trump, right? | ||
| We've had three 80-year-old presidents in a row, literally through some quirk. | ||
| We're gonna have people like you and me now leading this country in a post-Trump Biden future. | ||
| Why don't we try to turn things around in a better way so it's not just putting up pictures of Donald Trump and calling him fat? | ||
| Or vice versa. | ||
| In defense of the vice president, I think he was on virtually every single news network this weekend on Sunday shows. | ||
| He did Sunday shows. | ||
| I'm not thinking he doesn't hide how he he subjects himself to questioning all the time. | ||
| He's he's out there on questioning, but he he has this side of the first Stephanopoulos cut him off with a commercial break. | ||
| He's got the side of him, you know, he's inside it's all thing, and maybe he finds it humorous. | ||
| He's calling uh Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, etc. | ||
| I'm just saying that we could it you would agree with me putting aside who's to blame that we can do better in this country. | ||
| Like we're not at like Lincoln Douglas or Kennedy Nixon. | ||
| We've we've become a country where to your point, having a stand social media account trying to imitate Trump is is like is that the future of America? | ||
| Like, is that the future of conversation? | ||
| And maybe may you know, maybe maybe that is, but that's that is that gonna make us lead in AI, is that gonna make us the leader of the free world? | ||
| Is that what Ronald Reagan would have done in like calling to Gorbachev to tear down the wall? | ||
| Yeah, so so how do we what I'm trying to say is how do we try to raise the standards of conversation discourse in this country? | ||
| I swear you could sell out arenas by doing actual Lincoln Douglas debates by bringing thought leaders from both sides and having true debates. | ||
| People love that. | ||
| There are big YouTube channels with millions of tens of millions of views, Jubilee's one of them, where they just have a good faith. | ||
| Good faith debate. | ||
| Yeah, good faith debate between sides. | ||
| Well, one of the things you could do and like people love that. | ||
| I swear you could you really could truly sell out arenas. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| You know, I did one with the Vake. | ||
| You can have Marjorie Keller Green or Massey or the Vice President, not in a way of like, okay, here's the debate with Sean Hannity as a moderator, and you take your swing with your rehearsal talking points, and how about just a conversation? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's that was what Douglas and Lincoln were they were actually talking for hours in a way of trying to understand where to go as a country. | ||
| And by the way, it elevated both of them to the point that 150 years later we're talking about both of them. | ||
| People read those debates, like do they still study them? | ||
| Right, about Newsom stan accounts. | ||
| You think they're gonna be reading about there will definitely be history books written about Trump's memes. | ||
| But it that and that's a corner of the internet. | ||
| We listen, we live in the you know, we live in the internet age, and people love memes, and they love the it's like it they love that style of communication, the base does, but I think that there is a ravenous hunger for true and real and hearty debate in this country. | ||
| Uh, and I think they can coexist, honestly. | ||
| And there was a debate that was done between Duranda Santis and Gavin Newsom. | ||
| Yeah, I think it did really well. | ||
| I think a lot of people watched it, they liked it. | ||
| Yeah, and I'd love to see more of that actually with that. | ||
| Yeah, the uh Ron DeSantis held up the poop map. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| I didn't I didn't watch the debate. | ||
| I saw the clip of the San Francisco poop map. | ||
| He said, Here's here's where all the public defecation is in San Francisco. | ||
| Dan Luri is cleaning that up. | ||
| A new mayor. | ||
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| Yeah, no, we got a good new generation of mayors. | ||
| And yeah, if have you been out to the Bay Area recently? | ||
| Uh, not recently, but I've been a couple times. | ||
| It is uh it is sunken, man. | ||
| It is tough. | ||
| I want I watched a guy. | ||
| I I got an in and out burger right by the wharf. | ||
| There's an in-out burger right there, and then I watched a guy drop his uh pants and then just take a giant shit right in front of me. | ||
| Well, that's and I could I couldn't eat, I couldn't eat it anymore. | ||
| Lori's I love in and out, and I don't get it very often. | ||
| So I'm like, I was only there for a few hours. | ||
| This is this was my in and out burger. | ||
| Yeah, and this guy takes a shit in front of me. | ||
| You come and throw away my in and out. | ||
| Well, go well, come to my district, it's a little bit further south. | ||
| We won't have defecation in and out. | ||
| We do we do have you gotta you know, for all the mockery of of Silicon Valley. | ||
| If it were really that unsafe a place, you wouldn't have five companies over a trillion dollars: Apple, Google, Nvidia, Tesla, uh, you know, Broadcom. | ||
| You wouldn't have them have their families there living their schools there, employees there. | ||
| Actually, some of the cities in my district are the safest in the country, Sunnyville, Cupertino, Fremont. | ||
| But did we have a problem in San Francisco? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Open drug culture, uh uh homelessness, and and Lurie is cleaning it up. | ||
| Last year, he's taken some big measures. | ||
| That's why he's got 73% approval rate. | ||
| That's wonderful to see. | ||
| I'd love to do this tour with you in great American cities. | ||
| My take on this is that we'll never get another San Francisco. | ||
| God didn't make two San Franciscos, there's only one. | ||
| It is a gorgeous and beautiful American city. | ||
| It's probably one of the most gifted, naturally beautiful American cities. | ||
| It is in it cities in the world, just period. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| And so what happens when I when you can drive through it when you drive through it, and I have plenty of video to show it. | ||
| We got broken, we got a car broken into in five minutes, you know, famously in San Francisco last year, you know, in San Francisco, and it was all on camera, right? | ||
| And you could see it. | ||
| You don't want to see these places. | ||
| What a car broken in and what defecation, yeah, dude. | ||
| Man, we go there. | ||
| I've lived there over 20 years. | ||
| I've not but you're in the areas outside. | ||
| You know, we go downtown, we go downtown, right? | ||
| And so we're staying in downtown San Francisco. | ||
| We're not looking for trouble. | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
| Um, but you know where we got our car broken into? | ||
| Nancy Nancy Pelosi's house. | ||
| We were just there, we were right up there on billionaires, you know, old billionaires block. | ||
| Yeah, bro. | ||
| They smashed right into our car, took all of our stuff right across. | ||
| We were just filming an open, right? | ||
| Because we were gonna talk about not to dox Nancy Pelo, but we were just talking about the neighborhood. | ||
| Yeah, this was after COVID. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, right across from Pelosi. | ||
| This her secret service was there, actually, right? | ||
| And they just watched our car get smashed and all of our stuff get taken. | ||
| I think they were laughing about it. | ||
| But that's happened. | ||
| I mean, that was that's a very safe neighborhood with some of the most beautiful homes I've ever seen in my life, and very expensive homes, right? | ||
| And it was not safe even there. | ||
| And so then you watch the Paul Pelosi thing happen, and it did it didn't shock me because we were someone someone criminally attacked us right across from her house. | ||
| And I was like, geez, man, this is just unsafe. | ||
| It's unsafe. | ||
| Like Pelosi should move actually. | ||
| Like, this is unsafe for anyone to live here. | ||
| And I hate seeing that. | ||
| Well, here's my take. | ||
| Okay, this is not like the own the lib thing. | ||
| My take is that we should protect, we should preserve Chicago. | ||
| Like, we won't get another Chicago. | ||
| Sure, we won't get another New York. | ||
| Sure, but like we shouldn't abandon these cities to total ruin. | ||
| It's actually important for America to have these cities. | ||
| Don't you think that the way to do that is, you know, I often say to about the president, I said, Part of me which thinks that he really wants to run for like mirror New York. | ||
| Like the guy is like, that's the great one. | ||
| That's not me. | ||
| Really what you like Mondami? | ||
| Did you endorse him? | ||
| I I've endorsed, I've been I'm go I have endorsed him, and I'm going uh to campaign. | ||
| I've campaigned for him for Mikey Cheryl for Abigail Spanberger, and that we've got a broad tent party, but I I have endorsed Mamdani. | ||
| But the the the uh the point is I mean, why not? | ||
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| The that's the next conversation. | ||
| You should have Mamdani on. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| I I mean this, I would love to. | ||
| I'd say this in absolute earnest. | ||
| I would love to have them on. | ||
| I'd like to have AOC on. | ||
| I'd like a Bernie on. | ||
| Yeah, this is like critically is like critically important that we at the very least like can have these conversations. | ||
| You know what you could do, you like adults. | ||
| Yeah, get one conservative, one uh progressive democrat or whatever kind of and have a conversation like we're having, where it's substantive, it it's not like oh kumbaya, like we've had disagreements, and you and try to to there may be a a huge appetite for that in the country. | ||
| No one is no one has tried it, right? | ||
| And and so what we end up having is like this 10-second uh back and forth. | ||
| But the point was you know what you'd get to with that. | ||
| Sorry to interrupt you, Congressman. | ||
| But what you'd get with with that is you'd probably get an arena. | ||
| I don't know if you could sell it arena, maybe you could you'd probably get an arena that would show up where like the crowd would be very, very mixed. | ||
| Yeah, would be like a ton of people from different backgrounds, right? | ||
| That like would be there to see their side, right? | ||
| So you'd have the AOC people like, but with the MAGA people, right? | ||
| Like it'd be kind of neat. | ||
| It'd be neat. | ||
| I mean, I don't want there to be too much alcohol served, right? | ||
| Is I know like I don't want people doing shots, okay, because it'd be like an eagles be like an Eagles game, right? | ||
| I don't want batteries being thrown, and there'll be some overlap, like there'll be an overlap of like getting money out of politics, there'll be an overlap about about not having lobbyists, they'll be in the like transparency of government. | ||
| There'll be an overlap saying, like, we got to bring manufacturing. | ||
| You know, it goes so viral, Congressman. | ||
| Yeah, is having like the the uh stadium roar because there would be a line like that about like let's get filthy lobbyist money out of politics. | ||
| I'm sick of big pharma money in politics, right? | ||
| And at the stadium would roar and it'd be all these MAGA people next to all these Bernie people, and they all be clapping together for the same thing. | ||
| It's like it's the meme, you know, it'd be the meme, like you're the driving meme. | ||
| I introduced Trump's executive order on big pharma as a bill in Congress because I agree with it. | ||
| Like his head could have written that same thing. | ||
| I mean, it was basically going after pharma saying Americans should pay more than people in like Britain, France, and Japan. | ||
| So there are those areas, but on this city thing, like if if Republicans are concerned about what's happening in Chicago or what's happening in these cities, then run someone for Mary. | ||
| It's not like you guys haven't won with Giuliani or uh or uh or more centrists, marriage. | ||
| What my concern is you don't want the federal government, you there's gonna be a democratic president some point. | ||
| You don't want a democratic president sitting there saying, Okay, we're gonna mobilize the National Guard because we don't like what Abbott is doing. | ||
| We're gonna we're gonna bring in the tent cities, we're gonna force the tent cities on you. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| So it's I we're deploying a hundred thousand drug users to Tampa, okay? | ||
| And we got a bunch of meth heads, we got an army of national guards of meth heads, okay? | ||
| We're gonna send them in. | ||
| I'm just saying we're gonna make everything San Francisco. | ||
| And by the way, what they're doing on universities, you want to democra, like just think sometimes. | ||
| I've it's short short-sided. | ||
| Just think of what a democratic president could do to conservative universities if we said, Okay, you want federal funding now. | ||
| Here are all the left uh curriculum that you need to have. | ||
| I mean, it's keep the federal government out of sort of the the interference on local cities on private universities, on uh even if they're getting federal funding. | ||
| I get that argument, but you really want like okay, right now it's like Trump making the compact for MIT uh and Massey's pushback on that as MIT grad, but do you really want uh the the left being getting in there and then putting that the world? | ||
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| Come on, Congressman, you hear yourself the precedent. | ||
| Well, could you imagine if Democrats tried to censor people on social media? | ||
| That'd be crazy. | ||
| Whoa, yes, as a guy who's lost like 50 accounts to censorship. | ||
| Could you imagine if the left was operating on a college campus? | ||
| Come on, come on. | ||
| These are the kind of conversations you can have, like if you have an open debate, and and yes, of course, like obviously institutional racism, DEI, like quotas. | ||
| I think those are wrong, actually. | ||
| And I think they're against the civil rights. | ||
| You talk about the civil rights amendment, yeah. | ||
| Obviously, it's illegal to hire people based on their skin color. | ||
| You started this conversation saying the civil rights that the civil rights act is is is incredibly good for the country. | ||
| Uh totally, and like what so we shouldn't be hiring people based on quotas and skin colors, and we shouldn't be bringing them into colleges based on DEIs and quotas and skin colors, and having that foisted down from a government. | ||
| So what I'm saying here is that Trump is, and this is a probably a much longer conversation than we have time for, but Trump is to reset that is actually aligned with the civil rights act to say that we're not going to look at skin, we're not going to look at the the amount of melanin you have in your skin to say whether you deserve to be in this college. | ||
| That that is actually a good thing. | ||
| We're gonna look at you on your merits. | ||
| Here's what I think it's missing, and I think that's where where the uh ultimate that's actually in line. | ||
| I used to you know, with an MLK speech that says I want my children to be judged by the content. | ||
| And I agree is the opposite of that. | ||
| No, no one should be hired uh because they're uh Indian or white or what they're racist. | ||
| But here's the challenge that that those totally agree supported who have supported diversity uh and inclusion programs, equity inclusion programs. | ||
| Here's what the challenge is. | ||
| So I used to teach at Stanford in economics before I got into Congress. | ||
| And I used to say my students used to get funded uh before they had an idea. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they were meritorious because they had the best plan. | ||
| No, because they had the email to the venture capitalists who their uh parents knew or who they had the network. | ||
| And then I went down to the south. | ||
| It's the way it's always been, by the way, like in all human history, right? | ||
| Like, you know, historically black colleges were some of the most hardworking, ambitious kids, you know, had some of the most incredible ideas, but they would have no shot, no shot of getting any of that venture capital, less than one percent of venture pet capital goes to black entrepreneurs. | ||
| Now, I know you believe this because you believe in the potential of everyone. | ||
| If we are gonna have programs that say, you know what, that's kind of messed up, that we've got all this talent that is not getting access to the right networks, and we're gonna lose to China if we don't have everyone on the playing field. | ||
| I don't view that as unmeritorious, I view that as meritorious. | ||
| I view that as looking for God-given potential in every zip code and making sure people aren't disadvantaged because they don't have certain networks. | ||
| And so this is the real conversation about DEI. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| Do you just hire someone based on race? | ||
| It's how do we make this country more meritorious when some people have not had the same opportunities? | ||
| Yeah, you really got to work on the racism in your district, Congressman. | ||
| Because what you're talking about is your district there, you know, you really got to work on that. | ||
| Those racist Silicon Valley companies that won't hire black people. | ||
| Congressman, you told on yourself, oh boy, so it looks like you're going home with some real troubles. | ||
| You're gonna have to really lecture those uh big tech companies about their racism. | ||
| I'm not saying that they're racist, I'm saying that they're they're they're networks that we have to work to make more inclusive. | ||
| Look, that's that's and that's the American project. | ||
| Where you're born is where you're born, you know. | ||
| It's like, and and there's gonna be benefits and downsides to everywhere that you're born, you're right. | ||
| Like Iowa, we've got to do that, right? | ||
| I mean, part of the story in this country. | ||
| I mean, have you ever thought like people who built America, right? | ||
| The scale the cliffs of Normandy, they they they won the civil war, won the revolutionary war, built the steel, built the coal, de-industrialized, jobs left, rural towns hollowed out, like all the wealth is piling up in districts like mine. | ||
| We've got billionaires, trillionaires. | ||
| Have you ever said, like, yeah, we need to do more for rural America? | ||
| I don't view that as affirmative action. | ||
| I view that as like, how do we get economic activity there? | ||
| Factory towns, and I view the same thing with the Southwest or the Black South. | ||
| But my point is there's probably a place where we can come to some, even if we disagree, uh, a way of understanding where we're coming from and me not saying, you know what, Benny disagrees with me on this, and so uh he's a racist, or he disagrees with me on this, and uh he doesn't like Indian people, right? | ||
| And we can come at this with a conversation, like we have. | ||
| That doesn't mean I have to come up and be like, oh, Benny's the greatest on every view. | ||
| Uh you can hold your own, but we've got to find a way to uh disagree more uh respectfully. | ||
| And if there's one critique I have of my party, and I'm gonna ask you what your critique is of yours, but my one critique of mine is sometimes we came off too much scolding that we come off as you know, uh, I I think of the kids I grew up with who watch Rocky movies and went to Phillies games, and I was like, you know, I'm no better than them just because I have a fancy title as a congressman or a M Silicon Valley, like they have a lot to teach me, uh, not just now, but when I uh was terrible at like uh little league, and they used to say watch the butt, right? | ||
| And I think about them all the time and and how I'm still one of those kids who grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. | ||
| And I think our party sometimes comes off as can be preachy. | ||
| You tell me, honest, honest reflection. | ||
| Where do you think your party could do better? | ||
| Your party comes off as preachy, and I feel like my party doesn't preach enough. | ||
| I feel like there is a huge messaging problem with the Republicans, and that we need to get a lot sharper with our ideas for saving uh America. | ||
| Kids can't afford a home. | ||
| Like we need to actually talk about that, but kids can't buy homes. | ||
| Well, what the hell is gonna happen in 10 years? | ||
| No, in 20 years. | ||
| Kids don't have enough money to buy a home. | ||
| What's the average price of a home in your district? | ||
| No, What's a million dollars for a starter home? | ||
| Like for something that is no bigger than the studio is in a million dollars. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| You know, and kids are working at Starbucks for minimum wage, the same minimum wage approximately as when I was a kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like, you know what's so sad? | ||
| I don't want to interrupt. | ||
| You see the Maxwell house has become Maxwell apartments, the coffee that you know, the like Folger's coffee. | ||
| They had Maxwell House, yeah. | ||
| Uh and now they're like, Well, we're we're changing our name to Maxwell Apartments because people don't buy houses anymore. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Is that a meme or is that true? | ||
| It should be a meme. | ||
| It was like this is like the commentary on the American drain. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| We have to care about these things. | ||
| We have to like actually like it feels it feels like oh, you know, another social program. | ||
| No, like with it, no, it's not a social program, it's like the future of our nation. | ||
| Uh young men and women must be able to afford homes. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Like, you you have to fix this. | ||
| They shouldn't be burdened with trillions of dollars of debt uh in pointless wars for forever wars. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Like you and pharmaceutical costs are obscene, and so are health care costs. | ||
| And so no kids can afford health care. | ||
| That's like a joke. | ||
| No one will ever own a home, and you're gonna have like an entire nation of nihilistic renters. | ||
| That's an awful future, right? | ||
| And a dollar that's insurance getting, you know, that's exactly right. | ||
| 71 billion dollars of profits, and no more small businesses, no more small businesses and total corporatist control of everything. | ||
| You know, it's been saying some of this stuff is Marjorie Taylor Green. | ||
| Yeah, last few years. | ||
| That's a terrible that's a terrible future. | ||
| Well, look, there that was an honest answer. | ||
| See, that's a terrible future. | ||
| And we need to talk about that. | ||
| Like I agree with that. | ||
| Yeah, for like the more from a moral perspective. | ||
| Like, that's it, it's an immoral thing to do to your children. | ||
| And from a patriotic perspective, yes, it's an immoral thing to give them that as a future. | ||
| Isn't that the single biggest issue in this country? | ||
| That 70% of Americans believe that the American dream no longer exists, like that's yeah, that sucks. | ||
| And my parents, when they came here, right? | ||
| But put aside what people think, but partisan wise, but the John F. Kennedy was saying we were gonna go to the moon. | ||
| The country was on the march. | ||
| We were like, we were the place to be in the world, yeah. | ||
| And they never had a doubt that I uh or my brother would have a better life, that this was the greatest country uh in the world. | ||
| They, you know, I still believe that, but but see, 70% of Americans lose that sense of chutzpah, that sense of building things that we're the greatest nation, your kids are gonna have a better life. | ||
| That's that's what our political class should be talking about. | ||
| That's what we should be trying to figure out. | ||
| Uh uh a common ground. | ||
| And you know, I don't care if Donald Trump were to get the credit. | ||
| I gave him credit, I was very, very critical of Netanyahu, but I was one of the few people, you know, he's not Voldemort. | ||
| I mentioned his name, President President Trump. | ||
| Yeah, good. | ||
| He released the hostages, you know. | ||
| It's not that hard to do. | ||
| Yeah, did you call Obama on that? | ||
| Did you call your boy Obama? | ||
| Did you say, hey, hey, Obama, say say Trump. | ||
| I didn't he say Trump. | ||
| Look, he's Obama is one of the great American stories. | ||
| Clinton Clinton and Biden said Trump. | ||
| I think even Pelosi and Schumer were all like, good job, Trump. | ||
| Yeah, but the Obama didn't. | ||
| The point is not interesting. | ||
| You know what I wish for the because I actually want my American president to succeed, like I whoever it is. | ||
| You fight hard, you have the president. | ||
| I wish after uh the next few years he he has as president. | ||
| I don't believe this whole 2028 that's gonna be rubbed up Gavin does. | ||
| Boy Gavin does. | ||
| Gavin's Gavin is scared shitless of Trump 2028. | ||
| He talked about it. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Green, who knows? | ||
| Did you send him the Trump 2028 ad? | ||
| Can you admit that? | ||
| Are you the one who sent Gavin that? | ||
| You know, they haven't sent it to me yet. | ||
| So they uh yeah, you know, but the the point is I want him to see focus on just like if he can bring he's trying to bring people together in the Middle East. | ||
| How about trying to bring people together in this country, right? | ||
| Like he's he's this is it, like he's not gonna run again. | ||
| I'm ending wars, man. | ||
| That's how you do it. | ||
| Yeah, listen, dude. | ||
| If like Trump's Trump, you will be wearing that Trump 2028 hat. | ||
| If he lowers all the prescription drug prices by 90%, if he ends these wars, Ukraine and Gaza, like he's already got one down, right? | ||
| Well, and then look, he's uh that's not let's have things that a lot of people care about and and really like, you know, these are big time policy. | ||
| I totally totally give him and his team credit on the release of the hostages and telling BB to stop the bombing. | ||
| Now I I I I he's got to make sure that it continues, right? | ||
| These ceasefires continue, but also you know, the bloated defense budget going to you can't say um against endless wars and then have like a trillion plus sons of defense. | ||
| Totally defense totally. | ||
| I mean, see, look at this. | ||
| Like there, I think they've been I've seen it in your eyes. | ||
| There's been like, oh wow, oh cool, like we actually agree on a lot of this stuff. | ||
| Like, yeah, but we never have enough, you know, it's like you get caught in like the DEI trap, right? | ||
| Where everyone's like screaming, but the herd of my ancestors, you know, like you get caught in like the emotional argument, right? | ||
| Instead of the the human argument about like the future of our children, and like what kind of country or the big things, right? | ||
| And I'd rather there's like an old John Adams quote about like how I must study war. | ||
| I don't know exactly how it goes, but he's like, I gotta study exactly philosophy, art. | ||
| And I feel like we're back there. | ||
| I feel like like this is the generation you're relatively young, especially for Congress. | ||
| You for Congress, you're a spring chicken. | ||
| So I said, Yeah, you we need a new generation. | ||
| They said, bro, you're 49. | ||
| Well, what only in Washington is that considered the new generation? | ||
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| Yeah, that's actually right. | ||
| Firefighters are like retiring at 50 or something. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| So it's like it's like it, you know, I have young kids, yeah. | ||
| And it's like that's my motivation. | ||
| And I just didn't tell, I just don't care. | ||
| I want to leave them a functional country, and like these little these little things, these little I used to think money in politics was the biggest problem. | ||
| I think extremism and hate in politics right now is our biggest problem. | ||
| For real, yeah, you can't talk to totally, totally. | ||
| And I think that there would be like more if we had this conversation with the stadium of people, there would have been multiple applause lines where both sides, all of your supporters and all the people that are there on the right, would have stood up and applauded. | ||
| I mean, that's for real. | ||
| That's a that I mean you don't want to talk about real things gas price, food price, housing price. | ||
| Totally, right? | ||
| And that's not a one party thing. | ||
| That is like a general in healthcare. | ||
| That is a generational that's like that's like our political system uniting to F Americans for decades, right? | ||
| Like that's both sides uniting to screw over Americans for generations. | ||
| Like that that happened a long time ago. | ||
| Where are you on taxing for like Bannon says, which I agree with on him? | ||
| He says taxable of the billionaires in Rose district, put put up put up some well wealth tax. | ||
| You know, I said to Elon, someone asked me, was he can you become a trillionaire? | ||
| I said, fine, but tax him at five percent on the trillion dollars so we can fund some of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I you know, do we even have it? | ||
| Is he a trillionaire yet? | ||
| Is Elon a trillionaire? | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Does he live in your district? | ||
| Is he your taxpayer? | ||
| He he's he's parapathetic, whatever. | ||
| You know, he's like he doesn't have any house, he just gonna crash his different people's houses. | ||
| I mean it's like it's the craziest thing. | ||
| There's uh he crashed at your house. | ||
| No, I my house doesn't kind of make it make it take okay. | ||
| What does Elon say about that? | ||
| Does Elon like the trillion dollar tax? | ||
| Uh I'm sure I you know, I think he's so focused right now on becoming a trillionaire. | ||
| But think about look at all the billionaires and trillion years that we have in my district, and just and and if you just tax them, you can help at least solve some of these issues for the 70% of Americans who have uh the American dream slipping away. | ||
| Like we could build new new Yeah, man. | ||
| I mean, if you're looking for if you're looking for consensus here, I'm no tax expert. | ||
| I'm not gonna be able to like jump in. | ||
| I haven't like I'm not gonna be able to jump into the margins there, but uh, what I am is an expert on like pattern recognition, yeah. | ||
| And clearly there the middle class is getting destroyed in this country, and the working class, yeah, and the working class, hard working class sucks, and that's terrible. | ||
| And you lose it again, you'll lose a country there, you'll turn into a total kleptocracy. | ||
| Uh, it'll be serfdom, right? | ||
| It'll be just serfdom in slavery. | ||
| Yeah, you'll have a wall streets buying up some of these houses. | ||
| Yeah, a ton of super poor people. | ||
| The majority of the country is so poor they can barely afford their next meal, right? | ||
| And then it's like uber wealthy, and that's a horrible nobody wants to live in a country in a place like that. | ||
| Nobody wants to live in feudalism, nobody wants to go back to like 16, you know, the 600 uh Europe, you know, like nobody wants to do that. | ||
| Benny for Bernie Sanders, and then no, and nobody wants to live like that. | ||
| No, it's Benny for Trump. | ||
| These are Trump policies. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Bernie, Bernie just got Bernie sold out. | ||
| Bernie said, No, I'll get a new house. | ||
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| Oh, please. | ||
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| Hillary, I do have a joint door. | ||
| Please, please, buy my book. | ||
| I I choose I would love to have Bernie on the show. | ||
| I'm not a Bernie hater. | ||
| You know, I'd love to talk with him. | ||
| You know, I'd love to talk with him. | ||
| His whole thing is this. | ||
| It's the it was like Trump before Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I mean, he was on the thing. | ||
| And the the question I would well just disagree with this on uh you know, I just don't think Trump's policies actually are solving the the income divide. | ||
| I agree with you on the diagnosis. | ||
| This is this should be 2026, 2028. | ||
| If we were a rational country, what you said would be the debate. | ||
| And instead of like memeing, just memeing each other, we'd be like, okay, here's what we here's how we think young kids can buy a house. | ||
| Yeah, here's how we think you aren't gonna go into debt. | ||
| Here's how we think that you can actually have health care so that you don't have to be paying more for your premiums. | ||
| And that and this would be the this would be the debate in this country. | ||
| And I'm not saying I have all the answers. | ||
| And I'm not saying that I shouldn't be challenged. | ||
| And people can say, oh, those programs are going to be a waste. | ||
| But this should be the defining debate in this country. | ||
| And you should host something. | ||
| You should call it revitalizing the American dream. | ||
| You get someone from the right, you get someone from the left. | ||
| You get the gladiator. | ||
| Maybe get like a moderator from the left. | ||
| You know, get some left wing, like, you know, internet personality too, you know, to balance everything out and then and then do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then like have these like moments of great consensus where you're like, wait a second. | ||
| Um cheap gas, cheap food, good solid health care, cheap, affordable, like affordable homes for young people. | ||
| We agree on all those things. | ||
| Like a functional country, a safe, functional country, a safe, functional country, right? | ||
| But see how we started out and where we ended. | ||
| I'm not saying that's awesome. | ||
| The Jones tweets aren't worth talking about, and they should be condemned. | ||
| But we started out, and we'll see if people make it this far. | ||
| We started out with like what everyone asks on cable news. | ||
| And then by the end of this, we're like, you know what? | ||
| We got bigger issues. | ||
| Like, how are we going to be the greatest country in the world? | ||
| Well, you got to stop killing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Make sure that we can have the debates without dying, right? | ||
| Like that. | ||
| Okay, so that's like step one. | ||
| And if you can get past that step, then yes, these are the these are the these are the debates that the country needs. | ||
| And then you save the country by having them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Well, maybe we maybe we did our part today, Congressman. | ||
| We'll see the reaction. | ||
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| We'll see. | ||
| How much of your base still likes you after this? | ||
| We'll see how many Silicon Valley tech heads call you. | ||
| I'm not racist. | ||
| Why will hire black people? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Why did you say that? | ||
| All right. | ||
| You lost your speaking slot at Stanford. | ||
| It's an honor, Congressman. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, let's do that. | ||
| I'll do the first one in downtown San Francisco in the tender line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With it with an in and out burger. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
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| you you Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, that was an interesting conversation. | ||
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| I don't really know. | ||
| I'm gonna have to process that. | ||
| Luckily, I have a little bit of a uh a trip today. | ||
| I'm taking a train actually to New York. | ||
| So hope like, so hopefully to do some more more meetings, more content be fun. | ||
| Uh so I guess I will have some time to process that. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| I like that we were able to roast them a little bit. | ||
| I hope that I don't think that we cucked out on anything. | ||
| I'm not here to like try and make nice. | ||
| I believe what I believe. | ||
| I'm not gonna compromise that forever in anything. | ||
| However, I do actually know as a matter of fact, I we this company is a company made up of young people. | ||
| Uh, prices and costs are extremely out of control. | ||
| I read your comments, I want young people to be able to afford houses, food, gas, and health care. | ||
| I mean, obviously, like these like these shouldn't be things that we even debate. | ||
| How we get there, I think is part of the debate. | ||
| But then roasting Rokana about Silicon Valley and the capitalization of his firms. | ||
| Got them. | ||
| That's cool, man. | ||
| I hope that we are able to do more of it. | ||
| And I hope that uh yeah, I hope that we made you proud. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, talking about capitalization, Alio Capital is the company. | ||
| Uh, that helps make sure that while we're doing these interviews, that my capital is being managed correctly. | ||
| Alio Capital is an investment app that is probably based actually in Rokana's district. | ||
| So we'll see if he gets a call there. | ||
| The point is is that it is an AI investor. | ||
| It keeps my money working and moving for me, especially in dodgy times and times when there are uh major things happening, and that I guess is um always right now. | ||
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| And know, ladies and gentlemen, that the future is golden. | ||
| And how can the future be golden without our verse of the day? | ||
| Let's make sure that we lock it in. | ||
| Peace I leave with you. | ||
| My peace I give to you. | ||
| I do not give you as the world gives. | ||
| I do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. | ||
| John 14 27. | ||
| Oh, it's an awesome verse. | ||
| Let's just read the last line again. | ||
| Do not I do not give it to you as the world gives. | ||
| Because like these are profound and spiritual and eternal gifts. | ||
| Do not let your hearts be troubled. | ||
| Do not be afraid. | ||
| The most commonly used verse quote in the Bible. | ||
| The most commonly used phrase in the Bible is do not be afraid. | ||
| Do not be afraid. | ||
| Do not be afraid. | ||
| Fear not. | ||
| That is how we are going to carry on today. | ||
| We are not going to uh live in fear. | ||
| And that is exactly what we said actually on Jesse Waters last night. | ||
| So why not just end with that? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I wanted to play this clip, we just didn't have time before the congressman got here. | ||
| So uh on Jesse Waters last night. | ||
| This is what we were able to talk about, uh, along with Charlie's Cross. | ||
| It's been a remarkable couple of days. | ||
| Thank you so much for sticking with our program. | ||
| Uh and remember, in the end, we win. | ||
| It's your boy Benny. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| This afternoon, Erica Kirk told us about how Charlie prayed for everyone, including his enemies. | ||
| Watch. | ||
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Surprisingly enough, he did pray for his enemies. | |
| Which is very hard, but he did. | ||
| He did. | ||
| I can head. | ||
| No one else, I mean, I saw him do it. | ||
| No, he never did it in front of anyone else, but I can attest to that. | ||
| But he also loved people when it was inconvenient. | ||
| And he ran his race with endurance and he kept the faith. | ||
| Host of the Benny Show, Benny Johnson. | ||
| That was a throwback to Arizona when she forgave everybody, and Trump said, I'm sorry. | ||
| I do not wish my enemies well. | ||
| I don't forgive my enemies. | ||
| And he's gone through the entire Middle East, carpet bombing Hillary every step of the way. | ||
| It's been remarkable. | ||
| Uh however, Donald Trump clearly understands Christianom and understands Christian doctrine and the power that Charlie Kirk brought to the advancement of the kingdom of Christ because Erica Kirk showed me something remarkable at the White House right before coming over here to do your show, Jesse. | ||
| If you don't mind, I'd like to share it with your audience. | ||
| She opened up the Medal of Freedom, as you can see there, that very few Americans get. | ||
| They've only been a few hundred given out. | ||
| The highest civilian honor. | ||
| And then she turned it around back. | ||
| And what you can see here on the back is the first Christian cross, the first crucifix ever engraved onto a medal of freedom given by the president. | ||
| This is a historic moment. | ||
| It's the first time that religious iconography has ever made it onto this award. | ||
| And it is done in honor of Charlie Kirk and what chair what Erica told me, Jesse, was that this is for the advancement of Charlie Kirk and his work for the kingdom of Christ. | ||
| And the president understood that so profoundly that he gave him this great honor. | ||
| What a wonderful and blessed symbol. | ||
| And like you said, one of a kind. | ||
| Isn't it interesting how Donald Trump almost died? | ||
| And then when Charlie died, the president talked more about heaven than he ever has. | ||
| Have you noticed that? | ||
| Jesse, I've seen you cover thousands of Donald Trump speeches and many Don Jr. speeches. | ||
| When was the last time you had Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. talking about Christ and their faith in God live on stage together? | ||
| It was a remarkable moment. | ||
| Don Jr. of course had to make jokes about Kamala and Hillary while he was doing it, but still it was profound and it was beautiful. | ||
| And there is something that I'd like to say as we move forward from today, which is the most common phrase in all of the scriptures is fear not. | ||
| Do not be afraid. | ||
| This is a moment where people have a profound sense of purpose in life. | ||
| And you can see it, you can feel that spiritual energy. | ||
| People are no longer afraid. | ||
| The intention of that assassin's bullet with Trump and with Charlie was to make us fear, to make us put our heads down and to not speak anymore. | ||
| And now people are speaking up louder than ever. | ||
| Fear not. | ||
| I've felt the same thing, fear leaving your body after the 10th. | ||
| and it's contagious. | ||
| And I hope everybody feels it too. | ||
| Benny Johnson, great to see you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
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Found myself in a train at the station. | |
| When it hits home, I want to be left alone. | ||
| Please take me far far away. | ||
| I can't watch it anymore. | ||
| She covers her face You might call me hateful Bigger than racist I'll wait for the next train And reach my old ages You can't fix a savage animal rabbit | ||
| Oh, rabbit and damage. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Mercy for the wicked. | ||
| is cruel to the innocent In a car with my brothers. | ||
| Leave it our odds and mothers at home. | ||
| That Chicago win. | ||
| I just wanted. | ||
| to be left alone You might call me hateful Bigoted and racist I went on the next train. | ||
| And reach our old A. And guess what, my friend? | ||
| Everything will be okay Guess what day? | ||
| What day? | ||
| Yes, hump day. | ||
| Woo-hoo! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| The biggest ships in the sea, all owned by the oldest kings. | ||
| And the dying legacy media del we'll the penny soul come to mind the salt from Lives for fun. | ||
| Be the golden bring the gun. | ||
| We sail for number one We sail for number one So will the penny show come to mind the salt from Lives for Fun. | ||
| We sail for number one. |
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