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Oct. 13, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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Trump LIVE in EGYPT Right Now After Bringing PEACE To The Middle East | Hostages Released: War OVER
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benny johnson
01:17:36
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donald j trump
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douglas wilson
26:14
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steve hilton
07:08
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abdel fattah el-sisi
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aishah hasnie
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dana perino
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marco rubio
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aishah hasnie
A momentous moment not only for that region but for everyone watching around the world, a moment of relief.
The president is just about to attend um peace summit in Egypt, and we will take you there live as soon as that begins.
Meanwhile, you've been watching those emotional scenes playing out in real time in Israel as those families finally reunite with their loved ones.
*Squeak* *Squeak* *Squeak* *Squeak* *Squeak* *Squeak* And those hostages freed after an agonizing 738 days in
captivity, Dana.
dana perino
It's been a whirlwind day for President Trump.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu greeted him at the airport.
And then he met with families of hostages, and they thanked President Trump for bringing their loved ones home and striking a deal that many thought was impossible.
aishah hasnie
We're taking a live look now at Freed Square in Tel Aviv, where thousands are celebrating this day.
They're watching the president's speech to the Azirili Knesset, the legislature there.
And lawmakers gave him a very warm welcome.
unidentified
applause Thank you.
dana perino
The president addressed the Knesset, and he said this was not just a new beginning for Israel, but for the entire region.
donald j trump
After two harrowing years in darkness and captivity, 20 courageous hostages are returning to the glorious embrace of their families, and it is glorious.
28 more precious loved ones are coming home at last to rest in this sacred soil for all of time.
And after so many years of unceasing war and endless danger, today the skies are calm, the guns are silent, the sirens are still, and the sun rises on a holy land that is finally at peace, a land and a region that will live, God willing, in peace for all eternity.
This is not only the end of a war.
This is the end of an age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God.
It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for Israel and all the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent region.
I believe that so strongly.
This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.
I want to express my gratitude to a man of exceptional courage and patriotism, whose partnership did so much to make this momentous day possible.
You know who I'm talking about.
There's only one.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
unidentified
Thank you.
Fireflies and incense burning in the tent.
All of the time I spent in the sands of Egypt.
What is why they built the pyramid so big?
When there's not a single building left in the world I want to live in.
It's not a matter of it, but a matter of live.
They come on the water.
They come for the land, not a matter of it, but a matter of win.
We are living in a world we will never see again.
We are living in a world we will never see again.
I'm flying Across the desert with the souls of my enemies I'm flying I'm flying I cross the desert with the skulls of my enemies Woo!
benny johnson
You know what?
It is a very bad day for everybody who called Trump Hitler.
Really rough day for those people.
It is gonna be a down bad day for Libs, even CNN having to eat their words live inside of Israel as the president of peace, the great peacemaker Donald Trump, has thusly ended the war in the Middle East, something that I guess nobody thought possible for any president during any era.
Now it has happened, and it happened live, and it's happening live right now as President Trump is set to land in Egypt.
President Trump was just in Israel.
I think this is a perhaps a more interesting part of President Trump's visit.
He will be in Egypt with uh dozens of Arab leaders who are there to greet him, and we all know how that goes, ladies and gentlemen.
It's gonna be a wild and raucous good time.
We are going to see perhaps the camel motorcade.
Do you remember the camel cade?
The fondest memories that I have on this program.
Some of them have to do with the camelcade.
Boys, camel cake.
That's right.
The entire entire production chat is now ravenously hunting for more camel c was a camel motor K that Donald Trump was part of.
We're gonna bring it all to you.
President Trump is set to land in Egypt at any second.
We'll cover it all live.
He will be meeting leaders in Egypt, Muslim leaders to talk about the peace summit.
After a speech in Israel's Knesset, this would be Israel's house of governance.
It is a wonderful day because we do not want war.
We want peace.
We do not want hostages, terror, or horrors to become uh for any peoples.
Uh, we want the end, of course, to the circumstances that could spark and ignite and create an environment where American troops have to be deployed once more to the Godforsaken sandbox.
These are the kind of uh regional conflicts that have marred my entire uh young life.
Every single decade, every single year, there is a new American forever war, seemingly that is the rule of my upbringing, whether it's desert storm, whether it's Afghanistan, whether it's Iraq, and we're sick of it as a people.
And so bringing peace to these conflicts is a wonderful and glorious thing.
And also there have been 20 hostages.
Now Hamas holds zero hostages for the first time in years.
It's a very, very good thing, ladies and gentlemen.
Steve Hilton and Pastor Doug Wilson will be joining the program today, and we're going to have very, very interesting one again as President Trump is about to land in Egypt.
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Uh so President Trump has declared an end of terror and death to raucous applause.
Now, ALX, speaking of terror and death, I guess like this is the first time live since we had our own little press conference about the terror against my family.
Um so ALX, we have to like talk about this, right?
We can't just like we can't just sort of left people on a cliffhanger on Friday.
Then I went to go see Pam Bondi, and we did a press conference um uh about an individual.
Why don't you grab the filing ALX?
The individual who's threatening my family and well, now in prison.
Uh George Isabel is his name.
He sent a letter to my home saying that I was going to die, just like Charlie Kirk in an open field with blood gushing from my head and neck.
Uh, I just want to do a massive shout out to the administration for taking these kind of threats seriously.
We are a show of peace.
We are going to celebrate Donald Trump today for bringing peace.
I do not want pain or suffering for anyone in this country.
I want to resolve our differences peacefully.
I want to be able to debate.
I don't want any harm to befall anyone.
I prayed this past Sunday for Joe Biden, who's undergoing some pretty pretty rough uh chemotherapy right now for his terminal cancer.
It's the difference between us and the animals.
So, ladies and gentlemen, uh, this is these are the animals.
This is the uh federal filing that uh was brought on behalf of my family uh when an individual who is does not seem like a good hombre, let's just say, um, uh George Russell Isabel Jr.
Uh has been charged with threatening communications under 18 U.S. Code 876C.
Uh, this could potentially land him 10 years in prison.
Uh, and the reason why I wanted to sort of be out front and front-facing on all this is that it shouldn't happen to anyone.
It's hard enough to raise your kids.
Man, it's hard enough to be a parent and have four little kids.
Like, that is tough, man.
It's the toughest thing you'll ever do.
It's the most rewarding thing you'll ever do, but that's just the way it works, right?
There's you can't say you can't have all reward and no, you know, no struggle through it, right?
And so, dude, you shouldn't be having to raise your kids under terroristic threatening.
There's a lot of families that this applies to.
I don't care if you're just like somebody who works at the gas station down the road and somebody wants to send you a mean letter, or if you are President Trump and his family.
Uh, these kind of things obviously need to be taken seriously, and you have to make examples of people.
So, uh, here's us and Pam Bondi uh uh last Friday.
We obviously cut the show, headed it right over to the district attorney's office here in Tampa, and we did a uh press conference, and we were able to, you know, sort of describe how I want this cycle of violence to end.
And I don't really care.
Everyone attacked me for talking about how this is a cycle of violence, whether it's putting bullets through like I'm just I'm tired of watching my president get shot by a left-wing extremist by watching my friends get shot by left-wing extremists, Charlie Kirk, by watching children get killed praying in churches in Minneapolis, watching uh federal law enforcement facilities, the ICE facility in Dallas get shot up.
I'm gonna come tired of that.
And they're all left-wing radicals, and the bullets are only coming from one side.
And so, you know, at some point you have to have the balls to just straight up say it, and that's what I do, and that's what I did.
And um, you know, everyone came for me, and I don't care.
You know, this problem's on your side.
And if you don't think that it's a, you know, if you if you want to call it extremists and you want to write it off, um, well, the extremists have gone mainstream and the Democrat Party.
You might call it extreme, but I call it mainstream because the Democrat Party is trying to elect somebody in Virginia right now that did exactly what this dude is convicted of doing, convicted, charged with doing, arrested, charged, and being held in federal prison for doing to my family.
Jay Jones is his name.
And he wrote Republicans saying that he wants to kill them.
Please put up the photo.
Klein.
Saying he wants to kill them.
And he wants to kill their children.
And so like Democrats can't run away from this issue.
These are my kids.
Like, these are my precious three of my four precious children.
This was me right after the me right after the press conference.
And I come home, and this is what I come home to every single day.
And I just don't get these monsters.
Like, why do they why did I do this?
You know, why did I orphan Charlie's children?
Widow his wife.
We're gonna be at Charlie Kirk's, we're gonna be doing the show from DC tomorrow.
We'll be at Charlie Kirk's memorial service uh at the White House and his medal of freedom.
He's Charlie Kirk will be getting posthumously the medal of freedom from President Trump tomorrow will be there.
We very much look forward to that and bringing you uh plenty of content.
Also a big announcement that the show tomorrow will we will have Eric Trump on the program tomorrow.
Uh we're gonna be talking about all this.
Um again, this is my wife, Pam Bondi.
And this is us, uh, right after the announcement that they've charged this individual.
Like, where do we draw the line?
Democrats, millions of Democrats are set to vote for a dude.
Here's the text messages that prove it.
A dude that is straight up saying that Republican children are little fascists and they all deserve to die.
This dude is running for the top law enforcement office in Virginia.
We are the party of peace.
And so it was, you know, I just wanted to use it as an opportunity to throw down and say, no, like we're not going to, we're not going to allow you to threaten our children anymore.
My innocent children are not little fascists.
My innocent, beautiful children do not deserve to die.
And yes, your ass is going to prison.
So don't threat, don't threaten kids, dude.
Right?
And we want to make examples of people so that doesn't happen anymore.
Anyway, that's what we that's what we had.
We had a very tight show on Friday, then we left to head on over.
Obviously, to do that, and we're thankful for all of your prayers.
And I we've gotten like an enormous amount of outreach.
Um, I know I'm not the only person that gets death threats.
I know that this is a common thing.
It shouldn't be a common thing, and the way to make it not a common thing is actually take action on some of them.
So there it is.
I do want to put up one final thing that I thought was fascinating, kind of telling on themselves here, NBC News.
NBC News wrote wrote an article about this circumstance using you guys.
If you if you watch the stream every like if you watch the stream, you know that I'm like constantly smiling.
I'm not a particularly like angry, rage-filled person.
I'd rather laugh uh than cry on the stream.
I I don't cry on the stream.
I don't like cry ever, uh, except for at the birth of my children.
Uh, but I like I'd rather laugh at a meme or like howl with laughter as we do meme reviews with Our guests and everything, and we just did that.
It was like so funny.
Sombrero hats and everything.
We start the show.
I don't know where the hell is photos even from.
Like, where do you even find this?
Where do they even find this?
But anyway, NBC wrote up like I deserve it.
This is like NBC's NBA C's angle on this is Benny deserves it.
Why?
Well, so the left-wing terrorist that threatened to kill my family by NBC News is called A Man.
You can see here in the headline.
Federal authorities charge A man with sending threatening letter.
Uh to conservative influencer who has deep ties to the Trump administration.
Look at how they describe me.
The signal here.
The what they're signaling to their left-wing audience is I deserved it.
That's their signaling.
A friend with friends with Charlie, close with Trump.
That's what the signal is here.
Isn't that amazing how they write this stuff up?
Look at the look at the photo.
Virtually every photo, I'm just grinning.
unidentified
I have this at this.
benny johnson
Look at that.
unidentified
Goodness.
benny johnson
Do I have COVID there?
I don't know.
I'm like kind of, I'm a little bit sick right now.
But like I have this S-eating grin, right?
Like, I've just the this, you know.
I'm just a happy guy.
Yeah, it's like uh uh you know, it's like I'd rather again we'd rather laugh and joke on the show.
So I don't know where the hell they even found this.
Where is this photo even from?
But anyway, they search forever to make it look like I'm a bad guy.
Yeah, that's right.
That's exactly right.
Killer Klein says I have the most punchable smile in the industry.
Yes, fine.
I'm happy to own it.
unidentified
That's right.
benny johnson
You know, we're gonna go to just a little announcement uh here.
We're gonna go do some UFC training.
We're gonna do UFC training um next week with the guy named Bo Nickel, and he's gonna actually kick my ass.
So that's gonna be on the 21st.
So I don't know if we'll be able to do that live.
I don't know.
We saw still have to talk with the team about it.
It's too many, too many amazing opportunities are coming up these days.
We're gonna go and we're gonna train with the UFC fighter for his big fight, Madison Square Garden.
He's a cool dude named Bo Nickel.
And he's gonna he's gonna just kick my ass live on the stream.
So you'll be able to see my very punchable face get punched live on stream.
So you enjoy that.
I'm sure NBC News will be watching.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
So anyway.
It's been an interesting couple of days.
Goodness gracious.
Back to peace.
I want peace.
Here we go.
Here's a live shot uh of what looks like a freaking awesome event.
I mean, that's not AI, is it?
What the hell is that?
What is this?
This is the live shot of uh what President Trump's going to do.
I mean, is he gonna like shoot a flaming arrow at the top and then light it like the Olympics?
I don't know.
It's got some really cool what is this, guys?
It's awesome.
This is the live shot of President Trump soon to be um soon to be landing uh in or just landed in Egypt.
Do we have anything?
Do we have any shots of Air Force One guys yet?
President Trump hasn't spoken or done anything.
We just have this, uh, whatever this is.
Yeah, I I yeah, so Air Force One just landed.
Okay, got it.
Um but this is the stream, so we don't have Air Force One.
We don't have a shot of Air Force One yet.
So I guess we'll see.
Is that a windmill?
Ah, there we go.
Nice.
She's got multiple.
You got Air Force One, we got mini me there.
Here's President Trump rolling.
They see me rolling.
unidentified
They hating patrolling.
benny johnson
Gonna catch me bringing peace to the Middle East.
unidentified
Don't do it.
benny johnson
Don't do it.
Don't release the album.
Uh, I've never claimed to have any musical talent or capacity.
I don't.
Uh I'm not gifted at that at all.
It's embarrassing.
Don't even want you to stand next to, you know, don't even like sit next to me at church.
It's so embarrassing what I'm singing.
Um, but here we are.
Here is Air Force One.
Please repaint it.
Please get rid of those periwinkle blues.
That is such baby, that's such a baby color for Air Force One.
Please repaint it, damn it.
Please repaint Air Force One.
You can see Air Force One taxing here.
President Trump has done a tour de force of the uh Middle East.
Again, he's coming from Israel right now.
This is a live shot.
President Trump landing in Egypt.
Got some very cool, got a very cool video here of Egyptian Air Force bringing in, bringing in Air Force One.
You can see here.
You got the Egyptian, you got the Egyptian Air Force Shepherding in Air Force One.
Couple of F-16s there.
American F-16s, but owned by the Egyptian Air Force.
Pretty cool.
Flying information.
And you got Donald Trump.
Sweet.
Great.
Okay.
Here comes Trump.
What up?
This is live.
This is uh Trump.
ALX um has obsessed with the new Air Force One.
So am I. I am sick of these blues.
I'm sick of this.
ALX.
Please get like the like a photo of the new Air Force One with actual masculine colors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The actual like I'm so tired of this.
Like I, you know, I have two, I have two boys.
One is eight months old, and one is two years old.
They have little blue, they have blue rooms.
And they're like babies.
But not even their baby rooms are as like periwinkle baby blue as that.
Like I'm sick of it.
Like I'm sick of it.
Put the act, like put the make it an actual, yeah.
That's a good example.
Make it so so here, Klein.
If you could load if you could load that up and show people the difference.
Oh goodness, what's that?
Yeah, okay.
There you go.
Wouldn't that be great?
Isn't that what it should look like?
Those are actual, those are masculine colors for Air Force One.
Stop it with this like Jimmy Carter.
Lame ass, baby ass blue.
Nah.
Yeah.
Make it masculine.
Okay, now back to the live shot.
Show the people the difference.
Oh, okay.
We just have a Mercedes.
Okay, here's uh Trump.
They don't have the staircase over there yet.
Here comes the motorcade.
I love these.
I love these lives.
It's so fun to like travel with the president.
They get these for some reason, especially in like the Arab countries.
They have like every conceivable camera angle on this stuff.
unidentified
So it's great.
benny johnson
It's just great.
They did this all the way through Qatar, right?
And Saudi Arabia.
It was fun because like they had like 50 different camera angles.
You caught every second.
It's great.
So this is not going to be Trump's car, obviously.
At least I don't think.
Trump rides in the beast everywhere he goes, right?
He rides in our vehicle, not a foreign vehicle.
But here we go.
Cars are pulling up.
There you can see the military marching.
It's always cool to see this kind of stuff.
Pomp and circumstance.
unidentified
That's what they call it.
benny johnson
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All right.
Here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Here comes Trump.
You got even the dude opened the door, man.
They are cooking today.
They're cooking.
We got no, there's no like audio on this.
It's just like it's just the white noise, right?
Of the engines roaring.
But when there's audio, we'll cut in.
Got the Egyptian military there.
Will Trump go to the is he gonna give a speech from the pyramids?
Please let that happen.
Please let it happen.
Is Trump can Trump like go?
Trump emerge out of the pyramids wearing one of the pharaoh hats.
I think it was in the meme this morning.
Look at him go.
Here we go.
Here comes Trump.
Let's go, boy.
Get rid of those colors on Air Force One, please.
Hey, Alex, what's the status on that?
When are they gonna get rid of these colors?
There's a status on these things.
What are they gonna do?
When I'm gonna repaint this uh 747.
I think I get some like real colors on it.
I guess I'm sick of this baby blue.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, if you're just joining us, we are uh watching President Trump live right now, arriving in Egypt to meet with Arab leaders bringing peace to the Middle East.
He just uh President Trump just oversaw the liberation of 20 Israeli hostages.
Hamas no longer owns any, no longer has uh any hostages.
President Trump delivering uh remarkable speech this morning in the Knesset.
We want to play you clips of that.
Of course, we have it for the show, but this is live right now, and it's always really interesting to see.
Let's pop well, let's pop on in.
So you can see the Egyptian president who'll be waiting for Donald Trump.
Nice, some dude just driving a Jeep.
It's Egypt, you know.
unidentified
Probably part of a tour group.
benny johnson
Donald Trump, please, I beg of you, do the speech from the actual pyramids.
Do it in a pharaoh hat.
Now back to this ridiculous sculpture.
This horrible AI sculpture.
Show us Trump.
Anyway, I don't know why they cut to this.
Uh, just in case.
Oh, yeah, please.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Beautiful.
All right.
ALX saying, as soon as February 2026, we could potentially get a new Air Force One.
Sweet.
Alex is saying he's too far from the pyramids.
Well, dude, you don't know that.
He could do it.
You don't know it.
Here's what we uh believe that President Trump could look like during his speech today.
This is a uh artist rendering.
This is according to the historic, this is according to uh historians.
This is accord this is according to historians um predicting what President Trump may look like today during his speech in Egypt.
This came directly from the White House.
Um These are some of Trump's top advisors working with historians to make sure that he has a uh 100% historically accurate speech today.
And here's how uh President Trump's gonna suit up after freeing the Israelis, right?
We're just playing the oldies, you know.
Like, just play just let her why not just lean into history, okay?
So Trump free so Trump frees the Israelites, Pharaoh Trump frees the Israelites.
Let it go.
Call him Donald Tut.
Okay.
Do it.
Do it.
Donald Tut.
He spends the morning freeing the Israelites.
And now Pharaoh Donald conquering Egypt.
Just play just play the old testament out.
Just do it.
That's what Trump's doing right now.
He's playing out the old testament.
Boys, do we have a shot of Trump's plane?
Can we see Trump's uh is is it do we got any any uh no?
It's just this all over again.
I think this is the proper uh opportunity to looks like we're trying to try to find it.
I just don't want to miss Trump, you know, exiting the plane, it's always fun.
Then as Trump's traveling, we could pop in and out of some of the highlights from today.
Um there he is!
Just in time.
Freaking great.
This is awesome.
Klein, do we have a good track to play?
Yeah, play me some music.
Let's go.
Trump is your president.
unidentified
Got Trump as your president.
Future of NAGA is here.
benny johnson
This is the one time that was on a Trump track.
unidentified
This shot is Trump that's your president 2024.
We coming back.
benny johnson
Yeah, why not?
They should actually how to do it, Craig.
unidentified
Call me what you want, but don't call me a democrat.
benny johnson
They should actually want to put him in jail.
You can't be blaring us.
unidentified
I write your way.
Y'all need to dead.
Still coming through your hood in my red head.
I might buy a mega tank.
Let me call my Joel Lumag.
I'm exposing audies right on the five.
Alright.
benny johnson
I love it.
Holds up.
It holds up.
Yeah, age is like fine wine.
Age is like fine wine.
So this is President Trump.
Uh rolling with the Egyptian leadership.
President, Prime Minister.
Trump just chilling out.
Got some of our squad there, obviously.
We know Trump's cameraman.
There pretty well.
Good homie.
Donald is rolling.
And he's going to the motorcade.
The president of peace, the most powerful man in the world.
And somebody who has just delivered peace in the Middle East.
Now getting just flocked and mobbed here in Egypt.
Everyone's sprinting to the cars.
And there we go.
And they're off.
Alax, what do we expect from President Trump?
He's going to be meeting with a bunch of Arab leaders, and he's going to be giving a speech.
That's what we know.
Donald Trump's going to be talking about peace in our time.
in the Middle East.
unidentified
So that's freaking cool.
Thank you.
benny johnson
And we say, great job.
We're excited about it.
So now comes the motorcade.
Will we get?
Will we get a camel cade?
This I do not know.
I am not sure.
We do have.
Okay, yeah, great.
We do have an example of what the camel cade looked like.
And let's just go ahead and see, watch him depart here before we play that client.
Looks like everyone's loading up into The vehicles.
They're moving.
You can see Donald right there in the car with what I assume to be the Egyptian president.
They're rolling Trump fist pumping out of the window.
You can see him.
Look at him go.
Look at Trump fist pumping.
unidentified
That's freaking awesome.
benny johnson
Let's go!
Let's go!
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Dude just brought peace the Middle East.
Hostages are released.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
benny johnson
It's it's uh their feed, not ours, of course.
We'll see.
Best production team on earth.
We'll make sure that we don't miss a moment.
And are locked in.
There we go.
Look at the tires on that thing.
Holy smokes.
Just such a monster.
I really want to ride in it one day.
I do.
We've been in a couple motorcades, it's been cool.
But that is a that is a tank.
That is a physical tank that they can like withstand ID and nuclear blast.
Like that is a real monster, the beast.
It's really something else.
Completely bulletproof.
Weighs like three tons.
One hell of a vehicle.
There they go.
And they're off.
It's so cool.
It's so much fun.
I say I don't know.
You just nerd it out.
Like it's just so cool to see.
Let's stay on this for a little bit, guys.
I just love I freaking love uh I love seeing these uh these monster motorcades rolling through these uh Arab countries.
It's really cool.
They always do it up, and it's always like quite a scene.
Look at that.
It's interesting, right?
unidentified
It's like, what is that even?
benny johnson
It's uh uh it's just so it's just such a such a monster procession.
It shows just the absolute power, the absolute empire and power of this moment.
Magnificent magnanimous, majestic.
Strong, strong, strong.
For those of you who may have seen some of the news that there was an explosion in Egypt.
There was, it was really far away from oh, look at that.
Welcome to the land of peace, these billboards say.
Look at that.
Welcome to the land of peace.
They got these massive billboards for Trump.
Welcome to the land of peace.
I love it.
We pray for peace.
We pray for peace.
Together in peace.
Something that we have been, I mean, obviously wanting on this program, something that we have been forthright and explaining our worldview on this.
We know that this has been obviously an issue that has ripped sort of ripped the nations apart.
The war in Gaza, we want it to simply end.
We want it to end very strong opinions on both sides.
We are anti-war.
We're anti-war because we are America first, and because our founders warned us about entanglements in foreign wars, and so we say, please, we pray for peace.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you are praying, well, the Halo app can really ensure that.
Oh no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
Klein, keep that up.
No, no, no.
I want to see it.
Yeah, I want to see it.
We can continue our prayers for President Trump as he rolls through.
I just love seeing these motorcades.
unidentified
So cool.
benny johnson
I love the random Jeep in there.
The dude the dude in the random jeep that was a part of the tour group.
Just got roped in.
We've Been praying for peace, man.
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We pray for peace.
As we watch President Trump roll out.
Is that what your roads look like, by the way?
I always kind of blow I'm always kind of amazed that these Arab countries have these like pristine and gorgeous, beautiful streets.
And the streets in Tampa, Florida look like Mogadishu.
Don't see any potholes in these streets.
Amazing what that USAID money has done.
For some of the world's most third world backwaters.
Some of the countries that hate us the very most.
Yet our own country.
We have uh some real infrastructure problems, but the infrastructure in these countries are incredible.
Well done, USAID.
Maybe we can help out Americans one of these one of these days.
Be awesome.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen.
We're watching President Trump roll out through Egypt.
Got some glitches here in the uh actual feed.
But there was no glitching this morning.
As President Trump uh was doing uh God's work, truly, uh, inside of the Knesset.
Uh this is of course the House of Government in Egypt.
I'm sorry, in Israel.
Um President Trump is heading to the House of Government in Egypt right now, currently on your screen.
Uh, President Trump receiving a standing ovation.
Man, this is these are just cool shots, man.
They're just cool shots.
Looks um really beautiful, actually.
Look at this.
You can see the motorcade there.
This is President Trump's motorcade.
Uh rolling through the Egyptian capital.
President Trump uh again at the Knesset this morning.
Uh ALX, why don't you call out?
Like, where where are we gonna go with this one?
I want some of President Trump's top line for his speech this morning that just received such such applause from everyone, including Hillary Clinton, goodness gracious.
Goodness gracious.
So where are we going here?
Where are we going?
unidentified
Okay.
Uh here we go.
benny johnson
Some of the other some of the other scenes.
Donald Trump Traveling through Egypt.
Hey boys, I want a Donald Trump Knesset speech clip, please.
Get one of those walked and loaded, please.
Um maybe a supercut.
Too too short.
Get me a super cut.
Here's President Trump's arriving.
President Trump's arrival.
Here in Egypt.
These are always so fun.
It's hard to cut away, honestly.
It's always so fun to watch.
Neat to see.
Guys, a Steve Hilton set.
All right.
I want to bring on Steve Hilton, the next governor of California.
Steve Hilton has worked in foreign policy and has assisted in the arena of uh great international diplomacy.
It's really fun to watch.
Um was taking place live.
It's historic.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna be joined by Steve Hilton here to chat through.
We won't we're not gonna cut away from this Trump live feed because they're really fun, but uh Steve has some uh very interesting insights on what's going on behind the scenes.
Welcome Steve Hilton to the show.
Steve, what's up, man?
This is great.
We're just rolling.
steve hilton
It's amazing.
No, I love it, it's great.
What a wonderful day, an amazing day.
I mean, I was just in tears watching some of those reunions we've already seen, more good things to come.
By the way, exactly as you were noting, no homeless zombies wandering around that location.
benny johnson
Yeah, what yeah, what's the deal here, man?
steve hilton
Yeah, that's you and I saw together last time we were together um in in uh LA.
Look, a couple of things.
First of all, I've been that place is an amazing place.
Shamel Sheikh, I've been there uh for not as not meetings as grand as this one, but similar kinds of things.
unidentified
Okay.
steve hilton
Um there is something as the president um, he's an amazing.
Oh, what an incredible leader.
It is just stunning to see this.
The thing that I'm reflecting on watching all of this unfold, is the fact that only he and his team with their business like attitude to this.
This this really proves the point he made all along from the very first moment he came on the scene, which is an outsider who's not steeped in the usual kind of BS of politics and diplomacy and whatever can make progress because it's about getting things done.
And there's a particular part of this, a story I just want to tell you, which is so Jared and Ivanka are good friends of mine, and um I saw Jared recently, maybe a couple of years ago actually now, um, one time in his office in Florida, and I was telling him a story about a business that I started many years ago back in England called Good Business.
And one of the things we got involved in was um business alliances that were that could sort of cross borders that would lead to peace and progress.
And we I wrote a book about it about maybe 25 years ago now, and it came to the attention of Shimon Perez, who was then the foreign minister of Israel.
And we got this amazing I remember the days be this shows how old I am.
We had a fax uh rattling in our fax machine in our office in London, and it had a strange kind of crest at the top, and it was from Shimon Perez.
He said, I'm very interested in your ideas.
I saw newspaper report.
Could you, if you're ever in Israel, we'd love to see you.
Um of course, what an amazing invitation.
Went to Israel, met Mr. Perez and started a real relationship there.
And I was explaining and the reason that he reached out was that he for decades had believed that the key to peace in the Middle East was business, business partnerships between Israeli companies and Arab companies and international companies.
I remember him telling me a story about a pasta company, Barilla Pasta, and they were growing wheat in the desert and making the past amazing.
Anyway, I was telling Jared this story.
He literally got up from the table we're at, went to his bookshelf, and got off the table a book by Shimon Perez.
And he said, This was my manual for the Abraham Accords.
And it was Perez's book, and it was literally marked up all the way through post-it notes and little underlinings all the way through by Jared.
He said, This is what it was all about is finding the economic interest, and that's how you get to peace.
And so when you see these articles now, you know, the 25 books that Jared Kushner read that helped it.
Well, that was one of them.
And it was just an amazing moment.
And you see this, and it's the same point.
It's people with a business mindset who can get things done, where all the kind of useless diplomats have failed for decades.
It's it's incredible to see.
benny johnson
Yes.
Okay.
So give me the sort of 35,000-foot perspective here, Steve, on what's happening this morning.
Uh this does seem to be one of the last um festering points that was creating uh real frictions, obviously, in the Middle East.
Uh, as President Trump has expanded the Abraham Accords, as he has traveled, obviously, to multiple Arab nations uh and had a beautiful and dignified and incredible audience there, and then obviously has been a major friend to Israel.
Um I think you are witnessing the beginnings of a new era.
Um is that the way that you is that your assessment?
steve hilton
And why?
Because he's offered them something extraordinary, which none of these previous politicians have done from America or anywhere else.
They've been bogged down in the details of well, this agreement and the specifics.
Whereas President Trump, I mean, even the things that everyone laughed at, you know, his vision of a beautiful real estate development in Gaza, but that is a vision of hope and optimism.
And and that was had that before.
And so he's laying out into the region this vision of being able to live free from the medieval barbarism that's basically been the norm in in so many parts of the Middle East for so long.
And say you don't have to live like this.
You really don't.
And you just see what's happening in Saudi Arabia and the and the movement there on some of these things that have just been stuck for so long, because you've got a leader there that embraces the modern world and wants to move beyond the kind of medieval approach to everything, whether that's the role of women in society, whatever it may be.
Um, and I think that that energy towards progress and just normality that the president is bringing, and the and the and and putting out there hope.
That's actually what he's offering them.
It is hope that you don't have to live the way you've been living.
benny johnson
So it was always the Arab nations that needed to come together in order to assist in ending this war.
Obviously, that's where Hamas's funding comes from in the first place.
You needed to bring both sides together, obviously, right?
But President Trump being able to work with the Arab nations is really the key factor that's changed everything.
steve hilton
Exactly.
benny johnson
We watched how disgraceful Joe Biden, his uh do you remember the fist bump?
unidentified
I can't really think.
steve hilton
Oh my goodness.
benny johnson
I mean, it's so humiliating.
steve hilton
These are America, and he was the great foreign policy expert.
That's what I always said about Biden.
That, you know, he was so he was such an utter mediocrity on every level, even the thing he was supposed to be the best at, foreign policy, a total disaster, decades of experience in the Senate, honestly.
Whereas, and again, I want to give credit to the strategy here with President Trump and his team.
Do you remember how mocked he was?
The very first international visit in the first Trump presidency, Saudi Arabia, the first place he went, and that amazing welcome in the desert and so on.
And all the kind of clever people here mocked, oh, can you believe it?
He's sucking up to dictators in the desert and blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's this is the product of that.
What you're seeing today is the product of all those years of actually having a really thoughtful strategy about how you make things happen, a totally different approach.
And again, founded on finding the mutual self-interest, that's called deal making.
So it's to me such a glorious validation of everything about President Trump and his approach.
Um, in a clearer way than almost anything else we can see.
I mean, you can add to that the his line, peace through strength, repeated over and over.
You gotta look, you've got to add in there the way he's shown such resolve on um, you know, whether that's the you know, the very kind of surgical and limited Iran strike on the on the nuclear bunker, you know, all of these things together, the long-term thinking, focus On business, building relationships, bringing the pariah into the fold.
All of that was um part of this process, and it's just so wonderful to see it come to fruition.
Obviously, look, it's the beginning, and and so there's a long way to go.
But it's it's so there's more optimism here than we've seen in I don't know, half a century.
benny johnson
Yes, that's right.
You bring but you bring everyone together and everybody wins.
And if you have an outsider that actually doesn't have the baggage and the weight of so many so much corruption and every every Clinton Foundation donor and Joe Biden and every kickback and every bag of cash and all the scepterfuge that they had on his family.
I mean, you can see how all these how the stuff never happens, how this nothing ever gets done because they're all such corrupt bastards.
steve hilton
Exactly.
benny johnson
You can see why.
They all have so many vested interests.
And they claim that that's Trump, but actually Trump's the opposite, man.
He just wants everyone to get rich.
steve hilton
Everyone, exactly.
benny johnson
And that you can't get rich when you're at war.
You know, war is actually what steals all of your wealth and gives it to the worst people.
Um, okay.
So speaking of the worst people and individuals who have really nothing to offer except for corruption uh and irrational rage.
And I'm not talking about Hamas.
I'm I'm talking about Katie Porter.
Um so Katie Porter, um, and it looks like we have Trump's comments here.
But it's just like a really quick top line here, Steve.
That's not that's all been great um in California.
Uh really quickly, what's uh what's the state of play now?
steve hilton
So the thing, so I'm just gonna be very clear.
It's you know, it's not about one terrible interview, it's about 15 years of terrible policies, and actually the attitude you saw from Katie Porter, they're all like that, the California Democrats, arrogant, entitled, totally resisting any kind of accountability for their monumental failures, everything a failure in California after 15 years of one party rule.
And so I just think you know, she highlights the way that they all are so contemptuous of any kind of um can opposition, the way they speak about Trump supporters here, you know, and I think they've got a massive reckoning coming next year.
I'm very confident now, more than ever, that I'll be elected governor next year.
benny johnson
We love that.
We can't wait to help you out with uh voter ID as well.
steve hilton
Exactly.
benny johnson
In California, which we are gonna rock and roll.
steve hilton
Fantastic.
benny johnson
Uh we're gonna go to the president here who's speaking live.
Uh Steve, thank you so very much.
steve hilton
Yeah, great to be with you.
benny johnson
All right, God bless you.
Okay, here we go.
donald j trump
Once in a lifetime, you know, nobody's ever seen anything like what's happening today.
And countries have all come together, all different countries.
Some liked each other, some didn't, most didn't, and they've all come together.
Every country has come together.
And by the way, Iran did put out a statement, you know, that they support this deal very wholeheartedly.
So that was in itself something.
But no, I I think they want to uh that's all I do in my life.
I make deals, and uh they want to make a deal.
unidentified
Now that the winning hostages have been returned.
Can you please tell us what the next steps are?
Well, they're going and looking for bodies.
donald j trump
It's a pretty gruesome task, and they're uh they know where numerous are, as you know.
I guess five or six are in yet now, but uh they're looking for bodies, they know the areas and the uh search parties out, and they're doing it in conjunction with Israel, and uh they'll they'll gonna be finding quite a few of them.
unidentified
President Trump, you thought it was phase two of the negotiations will begin.
donald j trump
Well, it started.
unidentified
I mean, it started as far as we're concerned, phase three started.
donald j trump
And uh, you know, the phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other.
You're gonna start cleaning up uh you look at Gaza and a lot of cleanup.
That's why when I talk to my speech, I talked about the debris.
I use the word debris, that's debris times ten.
So uh but we're gonna they're gonna really do a job.
They have a lot of power.
And another room, you have the wealthiest, some of the wealthiest nations in the world.
All leaders, the big leaders are here, the emirs and the kings and everybody, and it's it's a very interesting group.
I guess we have like 35 countries, and that's only because they were the 35s that we invited.
Everybody that we invited came.
So it's uh there's a lot of respect.
And I think you'll see some tremendous progress, both in the Middle East.
Uh This country is doing very well.
It has good leadership.
It's about leadership.
And it's really nice when you say, how is your crime situation?
And they like don't even know what you're talking about.
What do you mean crime?
We don't have crime.
Because if he has crime, he puts it out very quickly.
unidentified
Some people think that's not nice, but I think it's great.
donald j trump
Because people don't want to be mugged and smashed and they don't want to be stupid people.
They have a place that uh is uh doing very well.
We're very proud of him because we knew each other from the beginning.
The first time I met, it was in a hotel, and I was going to meet him, and then Hillary Clinton was following me.
Remember Hillary Clinton.
And he liked me so much he never even got to see Hillary.
He saw it for about two seconds.
He didn't really want to waste a lot of time.
He knew what was going to happen.
But that was the first time we met.
And we had a very good chemistry together.
And uh it continues till today.
So I want to thank you all very much.
I appreciate the way you covered the uh this really momentous.
I've never seen anything like it.
The level of love, the level of respect for what it is, and it's you know, it's it's peace in the Middle East that everybody said it's not possible to do, and it's gonna happen, and it is happening as before your very eyes.
And that's why it's become so fascinating.
Marco, do you have anything to say?
marco rubio
Egypt's been a phenomenal participant.
I think both Steve and Jarrett will tell you the critical role they played, and they can tell you themselves.
They hosted the talks here, and they're gonna play a very important role now in the follow-up, the implementation of this, which is really it's not simply about restoring Gaza, it is about transforming the region.
So we have an incredible partner, a long alliance, very capable partner here, and a tremendous collection of leaders.
This is clearly in my mind, I think in the mind of everyone in this room, probably one of the most important days for world peace in 50 years.
That's not an exaggeration.
donald j trump
Only 50?
marco rubio
Maybe a hundred.
unidentified
Mr. Wickhoff and Mr. Kushner, I'm curious you played such an important role in the tactical negotiations here.
What will your role be going forward as as a lot more has to be brought to the table here?
Oh, the minute uh the minute we had ink the deal, Jared and I were already working on the implementation side of the deal.
So um we're we're dug in, we'll be here quite a bit.
That's at the direction of the president.
That's probably going to come to be one of the most important phases here.
Uh Jared is remarkable to work with.
I talk about it all the time, and uh, of course, we both love working for the president, so it's a uh feels like a very honorable job.
donald j trump
Mr. President, would you like to say something with the interpreter?
unidentified
Yes.
I'm a president of the United States.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I'm a senior.
Shut up machine.
unidentified
This will whisper well first of all, we'll actually say I welcome you to each other.
It's a great pleasure and an honor to have you with us here in the city of peace, Shan Shay.
Uh on behalf of all Egyptians and peace lovers around the world.
translator arabic
Salute the appreciation and the respect of this unprecedented and momentous accomplishment by your house.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I was convinced that I was the only one capable of making this decision.
translator arabic
I've been very confident that your excellency is the only one who's capable of bringing this about and bringing an end to this war.
abdel fattah el-sisi
Well that you then decided to come to the East, the country that would let it be the Catholics, and to like a complaint.
translator arabic
I even said that very precisely during my communication with your next senses, that you are the only one who is able to bring about peace and to achieve peace and just part.
Thank you.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I'm going to start with the new class and start with the new class.
translator arabic
So it's held that well, the separate lucky Um what we need to do now is to fix the ceasefire, make sure that it uh main things now we uh can deliver all of the remaining the bodies of uh the deceased uh to the families of this is very important to bring in more inviting the systems into the strip and uh working very closely and
following up the rest of uh steps that should be given to me.
unidentified
Mr. Bennett is a good man, thank you.
He's a good man with a roll.
Will he be on the board of peace, sir?
donald j trump
I'd like to have him on the board.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I'd like to.
unidentified
We may need an incredible.
donald j trump
Yes, sir.
unidentified
OK.
abdel fattah el-sisi
I left the card to confirm that this is set up.
unidentified
OK, sir.
abdel fattah el-sisi
But whatever Facebook wouldn't have moved?
unidentified
As long as the president is there.
donald j trump
We've had many uh leaders want to be on the board actually.
The board of peace is it's taken on Steve, I'd say a life of its own.
Do you want to discuss that?
What's happened?
unidentified
If you don't know that you want to let me know.
I I think we have a long list of advocates to be on that.
donald j trump
Yeah, everybody wants to do this.
That's very nice.
unidentified
It's better than the other way.
donald j trump
Usually it's the other way.
Nobody wants to be on the board, but it's it's really taken on this whole thing has taken on a life that's very different.
So it's been really a great a great honor.
Uh and you and you people have done a fancy.
We appreciate it very much.
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
All right, so you gotta let us go, let us go, let us go, let us go, let us go!
benny johnson
Alright, all right, all right.
Thank you.
Goodness gracious.
Blowing my eardrum out.
He's screaming so much.
translator arabic
I just want to look forward to your excellency's support and your sponsorship with us in the conference for the reconstruction.
unidentified
Okay.
Thank you.
I appreciate thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you, everybody.
benny johnson
All right.
Let's just see, let's just see if they answer any further questions.
Holy smokes, that was loud.
Okay.
We'll be at the White House tomorrow with Trump.
I mean, put all that in context.
We'll be at the White House tomorrow with Trump.
A LX.
President Trump is going to be delivering official remarks, correct?
What is the run of show here?
What is gonna happen next?
President Trump delivering a speech in Egypt.
Uh to global leaders.
I'm not sure what that means.
They have gathered in Shah El Shek.
Sharm El Shek.
I don't pretend to be particularly fancy.
Not one of those guys who can like tell you every capital of the world and everything like that, and then don't care.
I know the capitals of the fifty states in America.
That's like pretty much what I care about.
I can tell you, I can tell you about Amory, Mississippi.
But ladies and gentlemen, he's in Sharm El Shek.
In Egypt.
World leaders will be there.
This is uh what the Shah's gonna look like.
Very interesting.
You can see the flags of every Arab of many Arab nations.
You can see the flags of some European nations there.
Will we have a bunch of European leaders there?
Who knows?
This is what it's gonna look like.
It says peace in the Middle East.
We're certainly going to catch the speech.
Uh there's gonna be one heck of a speech here.
Very interesting, ladies and gentlemen.
You see President Trump there, uh recruiting for the peace.
What is it?
What is it called, guys?
The the peace consortium.
What's it called?
Well, What was Trump recruiting there for?
Yeah, the Peace Council, right?
Yeah.
The Super Friends, Peace Council.
President Trump recruiting there, the president of Israel uh of Egypt in order to be on it.
Uh, very complimentary.
Roasting Hillary Clinton a little bit, which was hilarious.
Um, but if you have recruitment issues, whether you're trying to staff the peace council or you're trying to hire at your small business like me.
We are constantly hiring at this business.
We've hired some new people at this company, which is we're very excited about.
Kangman.
Can you get that tweet?
ALX, please.
Because not everyone can recruit like this.
Not everyone can recruit like this.
I want to tell a fun story about this team and exactly what we were able to do.
Uh, there's a talented young creator in Kangman Lee, who got fired from his job, got canceled because of his beliefs, because he loved freedom and he loved America.
He supported Charlie Kirk, and he posted that I was uh, well, not I was fired from my job again for my beliefs.
And that post went viral and made me very upset.
We were flying at the time to New York.
But I saw it, I was like, well, this would be a fun little project.
How about we go ahead and promote uh Kangmin and the story?
I'll respond and say, I'll respond to this post here that you can see here, did 13 million views.
And I didn't know the guy, you know, I haven't I didn't know him.
I had never met him.
But I said, yo, like, why don't you come work for my company?
You seem like a smart guy.
Responded right here under Elon Musk.
Uh I'll hire you.
You are fired for your beliefs.
I'll hire you for your beliefs.
Want to come work for me?
And he said, yo, can you slot can you hop up in the DMs?
We went back and forth, had a nice little uh chat.
It seems like a great really sharp young man, extremely talented.
And within 24 hours, we were able to get Kangmin Lee on our team.
And uh, well, he started this weekend, actually.
Proud to announce that Kingman Lee has now accepted a position at our growing media company.
He will join Team Benny immediately, making this the single shortest cancellation in modern history.
A little less than 24 hours.
Came in will work on our editorial and creative teams at Benny Media.
He's a skill editor and a sharp digital talent, and we're very proud to have him join the team.
Congratulations.
So awesome joining the uh ranks.
How well did this post do, by the way?
Like, I wanted people, I wanted to take dark energy and turn it into good energy.
Okay, it's been it was seen by millions, 42,000 likes.
Great.
What you want to take the bad energy, okay, and then turn it into good energy.
That's what we can do here.
So that was our recruitment process, but not every recruitment process for every job has to do with a uh massive viral post on X. Sometimes you'll need Zip Recruiter.
Zip Recruiter is how we actually hire an enormous number of employees at this company, and we're so very proud of our small but growing team here of skilled editors and creatives and producers.
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Okay.
Now can we finally do it?
Can we can we finally play some of the highlights from President Trump this morning?
Again, President Trump will be making a speech soon to the Middle Eastern uh Middle Eastern countries.
And uh and he is fresh off of his speech in the Knesset.
We also have a fantastic uh next guest up.
I'm just checking in with the producer team.
Uh is Pastor Doug Wilson set and locked in, ready to go.
Okay.
Thank you, guys.
Um I want to make sure that we have ample time uh with the pastor as well.
Uh to lead into that, though, something that's just been clobbered this morning because there's so much news.
Let's just do the supercut of President Trump's commentary to the Knesset here, and then we'll uh we'll um pop over to Pastor Doug Wilson right afterwards, okay?
Here we go.
Here's a wrap-up of Donald Trump.
Letting the uh letting it rip at the Knesset, the President of Peace.
Here we go.
donald j trump
This is not only the end of a war.
This is the end of a age of terror and death, and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God.
It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for Israel and all the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent region.
I believe that so strongly.
This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.
More obvious than ever that the productive and responsible nations of this region should not be enemies or adversaries.
You should be partners and eventually even friends, and that's what's going to happen.
I know it.
Together, you can stand against the forces of chaos.
Yeah, you go ahead.
It's an important point.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Because you can stand against the forces of chaos that threatened all of your interests, and it's always a big threat.
Always a big threat.
And unleash incredible prosperity and opportunity for all the people of these lands.
But when you settle eight wars in eight months, that means you don't like war.
Everyone thought I was gonna be brutal.
In fact, I remember Hillary Clinton during a debate.
She said, look at him, look at him.
He's gonna go with a war with everybody.
And actually, she said, he's got a personality that's all about war.
No, and my personality actually is all about stopping wars.
And it seems to work.
Seems to work.
unidentified
And rolling.
donald j trump
But it also means this name change and our attitude that uh we're not gonna go into a war.
But if we do, we're going to win that war like nobody has ever won a war before.
Choice for Palestinians could not be more clear.
This is their chance to turn forever from the path of terror and violence.
It's been extreme, to exile the wicked forces of hate that are in their midst.
And I think that's gonna happen.
I've met some people over the last couple of months that want to see it happen very much.
And after tremendous pain and death and hardship, now is the time to concentrate on building their people up instead of trying to tear Israel down.
We don't want that to happen again.
And the total focus of Gazans must be on restoring the fundamentals of stability, safety, dignity, and economic development, so they can finally have the better life that their children really do deserve after all these decades of horror.
I intend to be a partner in this effort In the sense that we're going to help and we're going to do something that became unbelievably popular.
Everybody wants to be on it.
It's called the Board of Peace.
benny johnson
All right.
The Board of Peace, ladies and gentlemen, President Trump bringing peace, President Trump knocking Hillary Clinton.
Again, that was this morning as the hostages were all released.
There are now no more human captives by Hamas and the Free Palestine, free Palestine people.
They're so damn silent.
Where'd they go?
And I can anybody like, where are you?
Where'd you go?
Where's the uh where's the marches with all the orcs that have been chanting free Palestine with their nose rings and their pink hair and their lack of deodorant showers, like, where are you exactly?
Where'd you go exactly?
What happened to you?
You'd assume that they'd be marching through the streets, holding up giant signs of Donald Trump, saying this is our dear leader.
Like, wouldn't this be the time exactly for those people?
You know, Trump just like freed Palestine.
Isn't that what you've been asking for?
Like they're like they like they're gonna get the land back.
You've read the peace deal, like they released all the hostages, the hostages are back home, and and now that they're gonna get the land back and and they're gonna be free, right?
Like the war's over and the killings done, like wasn't it isn't it the thing that you guys were all for?
unidentified
Where are you exactly?
benny johnson
Where are all the libs and their little kefas?
Where's Greta Tinberg?
Where is she?
When is she gonna be sailing on like a giant yacht with like Trump's name on it?
Like praising Trump dumping a bunch of motor oil into the ocean while she does it.
To go free Gaza.
Didn't Trump just do that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe somebody who's way smarter than me, maybe someone who's way smarter than me, who can talk about what it looks like to be part of the religion of peace, the true religion of peace, Christianity.
Pastor Doug Wilson, who is the senior minister of Christchurch, who I learned about because he did this incredible interview with CNN, where the the CNN reporter Pamela Brown, she's just like gasping the whole time because Pastor Doug Wilson just straight up explained Christianity to her, right?
And just like explained what Christianity is.
It's like amazing.
And perhaps its expression.
When the when your feminism gets hit by Christianity for the first time, right?
These conflicting worldviews.
The point is that Christianity is the religion of freedom, liberty, peace.
What President Trump is doing is actually totally and completely aligned with our Christian doctrine.
I don't pretend to be an expert on that, but Pastor Doug Wilson is, and he joins our show.
unidentified
Bye.
you you Thank you.
benny johnson
Forgive me, Pastor.
I was just I'm just such a fan of that CNN interview.
douglas wilson
Thanks.
That came out uh kind of nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Um I would love to talk about it, but since we are talking peace in the Middle East right now, uh perhaps you could elucidate for us how Christianity is in fact the religion of peace and freedom uh through the laws of God uh and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and how how President Trump is acting, uh is acting in full alignment, actually, by delivering uh peace today.
douglas wilson
Yeah, there's a difference between peace as an idol and peace as the result of adherence to truth, objective truth.
Uh, if you try to if you make peace an idol, then you're gonna find yourself appeasing and accommodating and uh you know, just trying to get people to go away, and you're trying to buy them off.
And all that does is breed more conflict.
It breeds more war.
Um, if you stand for what is objectively right, what objectively has to happen, and your goal is peace, then what's going to happen is something like what we see here today in the Middle East.
Now there's an important distinction to make, and I believe that the uh this peace deal is different than others for this reason.
Um if we zoom in, I would have preferred when the war started, I would have preferred for Hamas simply to to have been annihilated, right?
I'd I wanted Hamas out of the picture because they're not dedicated to this process at all.
Um, but if you zoom out, the reason why I think this peace peace deal is more promising than than other peace deals, is that it appears that the president has enlisted the support of numerous Arab countries in the region that will keep the heat on radical groups.
So what the reason we've had per perpetual conflict in the Middle East is because of secret supply lines that fund groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and that sort of thing, whether it's from a country like Iran or it's from misguided philanthropic organizations in the West in Europe and the United States.
Uh, who kept the PLO alive for all those years?
Who how is it possible for a terrorist organization to simply have unlimited funds?
Where's that coming from?
Well, if you cut the supply lines, if if you say, okay, no more of that, and all the regional Arab countries are on board with uh souped up Abraham Accords, right?
Everybody, everybody's on board with this, then what is going to happen is the Palestinian, the free Palestine is not a free platform for launching rockets into Israel.
Right, right.
So uh the so the danger of, hey, we broke we just brokered a peace and everybody agreed to stop shooting, which we would only get from Israel if we if the United States just pressured Israel to the nth degree.
That's the only way we'd get that.
Okay, they agreed to be uh they uh agreed to continue have rockets being fired at them, right?
That that is simply doing the same thing over and over again.
But if you zoom out and you say, okay, we are committed to uh objective truth, and our goal is peace, that it that is promising.
And the objective truth is that if every if Israel, excuse me, if the if Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace.
If Israel laid down their arms, there would be a destroyed Israel, right?
That that's the situation that it it has been up to this point.
So the only thing that is going to uh restrain groups like Hamas, keep them from growing or flourishing, is the objective strength of people who are saying no more, no more of that.
And what the president has apparently done is enlisted all the regional countries, uh probably uh Iran accepted, to keep things stable.
And and uh basically this is very promising, uh, as as can be seen by the release of the hostages.
benny johnson
Yeah, I really an interesting discovery for me as I've been working through what the scriptures actually say about the role of government in uh and how Christians have been psyoped into thinking that it's our job to just roll over and let evil people do whatever they want.
Right, and that's actually that's actually fundamentally antithetical to the scriptures and to the new testament, uh and to the work of Christ.
And there's some there's something horrible that's happened to the Christian church, where it's just like just get rid of any of your ability to fight, any of your ability to stand for truth, uh, become weaklings, become limp and become flat, like in incapable of fighting back.
And you look at Romans 13, Pastor, and it's like, no, actually, the government is instituted by God, God gives them the sword, the sword is there for terror of evil people, and that is the role of the government is to protect good and to do terrorism to evil to to to so that evil lives in fear.
And I I know that I I love seeing that as a as a point of strength.
I think the Trump administration is really taking that that Christian doctrine and that Christian structure of government uh and actually applying it.
Uh and I know that that's happening in the with the Secretary of War, right?
I know that I know I believe that he's a member of your church.
douglas wilson
Uh he's yeah, he's uh he belongs to a church in our denomination, yes.
benny johnson
Yeah, and I I love seeing that applied because that creates actually a more peaceful world, uh, in fact, and always has um in Christendom.
douglas wilson
Um yes, and there's a there's a distinct difference uh between uh in a on a personal level, uh turning away uh soft and uh a soft answer turns away wrath, as Proverbs says, or to turn the other cheek, as the Lord says.
There are situations that actually call for that, but that's different than standing by uh when you're a magistrate, let's say, and someone under your authority is attacking someone else, right?
Right?
What's the is it the magistrate's job to tell the victim to turn the other cheek?
No, that's not that's not his job.
So in Romans 13, God gives the sword to the magistrate to reward the righteous and punish the wrongdoer.
Now, and right and wrong are defined by scripture, not by the lusts and desires of the magistrate.
So uh, in fact, several times in that passage, the magistrate is called God's deacon, God's servant.
So God's servant is appointed by God to punish the wrongdoer.
So when someone is mugged or attacked or some there's some violent outbreak, it's not the magistrate's job to tell the victim to turn the other cheek.
Now, it may be in a personal situation, uh, the the task of a believer, you know, when Christians were being thrown to the lions, it was not the the Christians had no political power, no military power.
And in times of persecution like that, it is our calling and task to simply suffer patiently and trust God for the long-range outcome.
That is true.
But if you are a magistrate who has the power to stop something like that, and you refuse to do it, then that God's going to hold you accountable for that.
benny johnson
Like we shouldn't suffer terrorist networks on our borders.
No, right?
Like I like I don't think that Israel should be forced to suffer a terrorist network that shares a border with them.
And right now there's there's cartels in Mexico that have gladly visited terrorism upon our people in this land.
We shouldn't suffer that, right?
Like the right it can you talk me through, Pastor, the Christian doctrine that says we shouldn't be letting somebody out who's been arrested 30 times for violent crimes to go stab a poor woman on a bus and kill her.
Like that that's actually antithetical to Christianity.
Can you can you can you walk?
Can you talk me through that, please?
douglas wilson
That's a photo negative of the way it ought to be.
And so the the way I talk you through it is in the in the Bible originally, you didn't have chapter and verse markings.
Uh so it was like the letter to the Romans was one long sustained epistle.
If you read the uh Romans chapter 12, there's a long stretch of it where Paul is sounding very much like the Sermon on the Mount, uh bless those that persecute you, uh uh do not reward evil for evil.
Um do not take vengeance, not because vengeance is wrong, but because vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
So uh don't take personal vengeance at the end of chapter 12, because God says vengeance is mine, that's that's my job.
And then you go into Romans 13.
Well, how does God exercise vengeance?
So if someone uh if there's a horrific crime, uh you don't go home and get your gun and go as a vigilante and try to uh take care of it yourself.
What you do is you leave room for God's wrath, step aside for God's wrath, Paul says.
And then in the next very next verse in Romans 13, the very next passage, it's he says, God's agent of wrath is the magistrate.
God appoints the authorities as his deacons to punish the wrongdoer And reward the righteous.
So consequently, the fact that that that uh man with that lunatic was able to stab that poor girl on the train was because the magistrate was derelict.
The the system of justice, the police force, et cetera, that was derelict.
Now, I know that uh someone complained about the policing uh in that situation, and the police had the a legitimate comeback.
They said, What do you mean?
We arrested that guy multiple times.
It's not this is not the policing system, this is the judicial system, and the uh and the the elected officials that put up with that kind of monstrosity.
So it was the duty of the magistrate to have that man uh either in out of out of the public the public, so he couldn't hurt anybody, or executed, which is another way of removing him from uh a hazardous position.
I don't know what his priors were, but basically he he needed to be out of commission.
He needed to be not in a position to do that.
And a government that doesn't live up to its responsibilities there is a wicked government.
Uh, it says in Ecclesiastes, where justice is not speedily executed upon the criminal, there the heart of man is filled to do evil.
Okay, so deterrence works.
Uh, the Bible requires the magistrate to function in terms of deterrence with the standard of right and wrong established by God's word and not by humanist hallucinations.
benny johnson
So let's talk about those humanist hallucinations versus what law and order and an actual orderly society would look like.
So this is why it's so important to understand and to uh live out our Christian roots as a nation, is it not?
Like what the, you know, we we often use the John Adams quote that this uh entire nation was conceived just for a moral uh for a moral and religious people, and and it is unsuitable for uh any other uh any other population.
Um obviously you get hit constantly for being an advocate for Christian nationalism, so does our show, so so did Charlie Kirk.
Um and uh yet if you actually look at the foundations of this country, and the only way that it that it properly operates and where the institutions come from, they are uh from the tradition of Christian.
Could you perhaps explain?
Could you could you elucidate for us?
Uh correct.
douglas wilson
There are basic certain basic worldviews, only maybe seven total, uh possible worldviews among men, and they don't all generate the same ethical systems, the um different religions, different worldviews value different things.
Um Islam does not generate the same kind of ethical system that Christianity does, it does not generate the same kind of ethical system that uh secular materialism does, and so forth.
Now, it means you should not, if that being the case, if you take uh million hundreds of thousands and millions of people from one ethical, one region of the world that that uh taps into one of these ethical systems and drop them into the United States, where there is a different ethical system, a different uh tradition of law and so forth, all you're going to have is trouble.
All you're gonna have is societal chaos.
And the fact that uh it it appears clear to me that a bunch of this chaos is deliberate.
In other words, it's being fomented in order to have a transition away from our Christian roots, away from our Christian foundation.
And the process by which this happens is uh anarcho-tyranny, right?
So anarcho-tyranny is where the lawless criminal thugs are given free reign, slaps on the wrist, turn back into the public, like functional anarchy, where the most dangerous, unstable people are allowed to operate with impunity,
largely impunity, and if a law-abiding person defends himself or uh fights back in any way, or even criticizes what's going on, uh, they land on him like a ton of bricks.
They know how to enforce the law, right?
But they've got a different law in mind.
So in the UK, if you're running a Pakistani rape gang, all right, then you you get a buy.
But if you Criticize on if you go onto Facebook and criticize Pakistani rape gangs, you might be facing five years in jail, right?
So they come after you with a vengeance.
So if this and this is selective anarchy, selective tyranny.
And uh, and the whole thing appears to me to be a very deliberate uh attempt to destabilize our civilization.
And so consequently, our job, I tell our I believe our task as Christians is to stand up for the West, right?
Simply to say this uh we've had the traditions that we have and the protections that we have and the rights that we have for a reason.
Now, I want to be critical of our our society as well, because we've largely forgotten those reasons.
We've been uh we've been sort of coasting.
It's like the prodigal son didn't run out of money the first weekend away from home.
He took this large inheritance and he went off and spent it, but that took a while.
So we have we have had in the West a large amount of moral capital that we inherited from the first Christendom.
We had a lot of moral capital, and we have been on a uh binge.
We've been we've been uh spending it like there's no tomorrow, and we've gotten to the point where, like the prodigal son, we're staring at the pig food, we're saying that man, that looks kind of good.
We we don't know what's up or what down anymore.
We are so confused.
It is uh as we've been pitched into the void.
Uh we have a uh justice sitting on the Supreme Court who was asked during her confirmation hearing hearings what a woman was, and she couldn't answer the question because she was not a biologist.
But if you don't know what a woman is, you don't know what a human being is, and if you don't know what a human being is, you don't know what human rights are.
And that means we have someone on the Supreme Court who has no idea of what humanity is.
No idea.
And you might say, well, she has an she has an idea according to the secular assumption.
Uh, humanity is an amorphous blob like Mr. Potato Head that you can stick different parts on and come up with your own come up with your own invention.
But that's not what humanity is, because God says in Genesis that God created us in his image, male and female created he them.
That's that's what a human being is.
Uh, we bear the image of God, and we know we've known this for thousands of years.
But those who want to reject that in favor of secular atheism want to deny the image of God in man.
And that's what they're trying to deface the image of God and man.
They're trying to scratch it out, they're trying to erase it.
Uh, another illustration I use is let's say there's a king in a castle of just and holy and righteous king.
He lives in a castle and he's got a strong army, but the villagers down in the valley hate him.
Well, they can't attack him, they can't overthrow his castle up there in heaven.
Uh, they're but they're down in the valley and they don't like him and they hate him.
Uh, what can they do?
Well, they can get uh they can make an image of him and they can burn the image in effigy, and that's what this whole sexual revolution has been: an attempt to scratch out, deface, burn the image of God and man that we're because we can't get at him, we can't attack heaven, but we can attack his image, we can burn him in effigy.
benny johnson
And so it must be wholesale rejected.
It feels like, Pastor, there's been good work that's been done.
What is your assessment of the state of America right now?
I would say, post Charlie Kirk's assassination.
We've seen some of God's wonders.
I believe we also saw some of God's wonders with President Trump surviving an assassin's bullet.
But uh it seems like we are sort of on a razor's edge where things could go really right or things would go really wrong.
douglas wilson
That that is correct.
If you if you try to remember the way we were feeling just this time last year, just go back one year.
The election had not yet happened.
We were sort of on pins and needles.
Are they gonna cheat again?
Are they gonna pull something out of their hat again?
What you know, what's gonna happen?
And you look at where we were then and you look at where we are now.
Uh, God has been supremely kind to us.
That doesn't mean that it's all over, it doesn't mean that we don't have work to do.
We have a lot of work to do, but we are in a far, far better position than we were this time last year.
Uh and that isn't that that includes God sparing the president's life at Butler, and it includes God calling Charlie home the way he did, because it one of the things about that assassination, that grotesque murder is that it took the mask off, right?
Everybody could see in stark relief what we are up against.
And that's why it is so uh just as an aside, it is dismaying to see conspiracy theories cropping up about that assassination.
Um, as I just wrote in my blog post this morning, uh, it's as though Pearl Harbor happened and the whole country rallies ready to go to war with Japan, and somebody uh an influencer suggests that maybe Canada did it.
You know, um how hard would it be to paint a big red dot on Canadian airplanes and attack Pearl Harbor?
Well, there's no way to interpret that other than to say you're you're muddy at the very best uh interpretation, you're muddying the waters.
We America saw how demented and hate-filled the left is right.
They they don't they don't disavow violence because violence is at the heart of their system, and that's why, going back to your earlier question, Christian faith is peaceful.
Christ is the prince of peace.
Now, that means that when conflict happens, because it's sometimes necessary for it to happen, the goal of the conflict is peace, right?
Uh, the goal of leftist violence is to vent the hatred.
And this is why you saw in Virginia uh in the debate between Winsome Sears and her opponent.
Uh, can you just denounce this murderous uh thinking that was expressed by the uh this fellow running for AG and no silence, silence.
They can't disavow hate-fueled, hate-filled violence, because that's the gasoline they run on.
benny johnson
I mean, uh, at what point then do we have a broken society?
Because you can't unite.
It is immoral to unite with evil, of course.
Um, you can't make peace with people who want you dead, Pastor.
douglas wilson
Right.
benny johnson
So then what are we what are we left with as Christians in this nation?
douglas wilson
Okay, so um my dad wrote a book called Principles of War, um, and not methods of war, but it he was applying principles of warfare to uh evangelism and and uh spiritual conflict.
Uh and principles of war would be things like mobility, uh uh mobility, surprise, objective, concentration, and so forth.
One of the principles is communication, which includes supply lines.
When Napoleon invaded Russia, he overextended his supply lines, and that's why he had that ignomy ignominious retreat.
He um what one of the fundamental things is going on here is we have to realize as conservatives that we've been fighting, we've been funding our own efforts, and we've also been funding the efforts of the other team.
We are the supply core for both sides of our conflict, as was real revealed by the USAID controversy in the early doge days of the Trump administration.
So what we need to do, and uh, this is what I think the president has done in the Middle East is uh cutting supply lines.
If you cut this, if you cut the support that Hamas has, a lot of this dries up and goes away.
If the Antifa uh, if the Antifa types have no supplies coming from the outside, no Soros money, no surreptitious uh dropping off the pallets of bricks before the riot, none of that stuff.
If you don't pay your astroturfing protesters, if you don't pay them, what kind of turnout are you gonna get?
Uh all of so basically uh I think that we are going to be in a position if over the next year or two a diligent effort is made to cut the supply lines, we're going to see how robust their support actually is.
A lot a lot of this has to do with the blinkered complacence of conservatives who've just taken at face value, the image that the left has projected of itself, and that has been funded from outside.
Uh so we I think the our our big um our big goal should be to think Funding, funding, funding.
Who's paying for this?
benny johnson
I want to ask a final question here, because you're so right.
Christians often through total complacency or through uh shame, psyops through cultural pressure.
Uh major pastors refuse to talk about good versus evil.
Major pastors can't talk about issues like gay marriage or abortion.
It's not that they can't.
They just refuse, right?
They they refuse to talk about God made them male and female.
They refuse to talk about the first verse of Genesis.
The first command of God to man is go be fruitful and multiply.
Right.
This is a first command.
The first command wasn't the Ten Commandments.
It was it was that, right?
I'm gonna make men and women, and then go be fruitful and multiply.
Bring the earth under the minute, right?
douglas wilson
Go make babies.
benny johnson
Yes, go make babies, exactly.
douglas wilson
Right.
benny johnson
Um, and so it's it is you know, I just uh why why have Christians become so weak?
How can we reform?
I believe that we could really reform the nation through the pulpit, quite frankly.
Um we still live in a majority Christian nation, um, not by a little, but by a lot.
And I think that there's still hope in the in pastors reconnecting with actual Christianity and and that revival spirit that I think everyone still feels.
There's still like sort of this kinetic energy out there.
Um, you know, how do we how do we turn how do we how do we turn the cowards of Christianity around into really speaking truth once again from the scriptures?
unidentified
Yeah.
douglas wilson
So over the last over the the course of my lifetime at least, the overton window, the window that defines acceptable discourse in any society, has gradually been slipping left, sliding left gradually.
Um so for example, I'm considered a hater because my view of marriage, uh, one man, one woman, and that's it.
Right.
That's that's the biblical definition of marriage, because my definition of marriage is identical to the position that Obama took and Hillary took in their runs for pres president, right?
benny johnson
In 2020 in 2008, yeah.
So you're talking you're talking less than yeah, less than about a decade ago.
Yeah.
douglas wilson
Right.
So the le the and everybody the reason the reason they got a pass on that is because everybody knew they were lying, right?
But the the window has steadily moved left, right?
And so consequently, the most uh uh radical extreme right wingers are moderates who never moved.
Okay, and that that's what's happened.
Now, the events of the last five years, uh COVID, the lockdowns, vaccine mandates, uh every uh instant major institution in American public life disgracing itself.
Um blue state governors, it just uh total chaos, everything's up in the air, and then culminating in events uh which reflect which is reflected in the re-election of Donald Trump uh and in the convulsive uh activity that includes things like the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
As a result of the last five years, the Overton window is farther to the right than it's ever been in my lifetime.
And that means we have an opportunity to talk.
The Overton window simply allows you to talk, right?
What can you say without getting hooted off the stage?
Right?
And those Christian pastors and theologians and writers who know what the truth is, as the saying goes, who know what time it is, should use this opportunity to speak up because there are a lot of there are a lot of people who have been uh their instincts are good, but they don't they're they're not educated, they're not equipped, uh, and they need to hear uh truth, uh, which will hit them like a bracing mountain air.
benny johnson
They're such a starvation for truth right now.
There's such a starvation, and I know that you've seen this in the explosive uh growth of your church, right?
I mean, you've had you've you now have just this massive growth in in the in the Christ church.
What is it a thousand different is it a thousand different things?
douglas wilson
So uh well, no, it's not that not many um uh churches that there's about a hundred and seventy total works that we have, but in Moscow here, uh we have basically doubled in size.
unidentified
Moscow I sorry, Moscow, Idaho.
Yes, just we we have trust me, we have very special people that watch the show every day.
That's right.
We're in Moscow, Idaho.
douglas wilson
Moscow Idaho.
unidentified
Yeah.
douglas wilson
Now, a generation ago, there were it was a very blue dot, meaning that there were probably more than a few sympathizers with the other Moscow uh here.
But as the growth of the church here has gradually been turning this town purple in the opposite direction, going from blue to uh red, and there are thousands of us here, about 10% of the population.
And a lot of this simply has to do with normal people waking up.
It's I believe that the shine has gone off of progressive leftism.
I believe that for anybody who's got uh a normal stable life and something to defend uh uh a home, a job, a vocation.
Uh we need to articulate what it is, what it's gonna take to defend that sort of thing.
benny johnson
Yes, yes.
I just find this with young people all the time, Pastor.
I'm telling you, we were at a tailgate, we were at Tailgate, we did a turning point event at a tailgate two weeks ago, and there's thousands of young men lined up, and they're all in frats, and like they should have been chasing skirt and running after the cheerleaders and doing uh kegstands.
They were there to talk about Jesus Christ at 8 a.m. in a parking lot, right?
And in front of in front of the Penn State uh Beaver Stadium this holds like a hundred thousand people, and that's what those that's what those young frat boys were there to talk about.
Right, and that's what is that?
That's wild and awesome, actually.
douglas wilson
That that was the Charlie insight.
Uh Charlie saw that a lost generation ultimately at the bottom line doesn't like being lost, right?
Uh living uh when you're 21 years old, nihilism for most people is for the birds.
You you just don't you just don't want it.
Um, and so the established big Eva uh approach of moderate, let's try to be winsome, let's never argue a specific point of view.
All that did was fake feed the nihilism, feed the hopelessness.
And Charlie understood that young people need answers, and so uh Chesterton once said the purpose of an open mind is the same as the purpose of an open mouth, it's meant to close on something, right?
So uh what Charlie did was he argued for a specific point of view, he assumed the reality of objective truth, and he discovered this vast untapped reservoir of genuine seekers who want to know the truth, they want their lives to mean something, they want to be more than a bit of protoplasm, right?
And and yet the uh received wisdom of our age reduces people to just that meat, bones, and protoplasm.
All you are is a moist robot.
benny johnson
Yeah, and your life your life doesn't matter, and it's all by accident, and that's like and there's nothing left for you at the end of it, so you might as well be on the yacht in a visa uh with as much crypto as possible and have no relationships and nothing and die alone, right?
And that that's the promise.
And it's like being even it's being rejected, Pastor, by the people who like some of the like Dan Bell's area and some of the biggest influencers that live that life are now like coming to their senses and doing doing interviews, like that was all a lie, actually.
Materialism was all a lie.
Yeah, and now I'm scared of dying alone because now I'm 55.
And and I and it's and it's not true, by the way.
It's like not true.
With the richest man on earth, arguably probably the richest man to ever exist, Elon Musk.
All he wants is children.
All he wants is people to have more children, right?
That's the point of life.
The guy, the guy could have anything, including potentially the first house on Mars, and they had the actual purpose of his being is like we should have more babies, like you should become a father, you should become a mother.
Like take it from the guy that has literally everything, including space travel.
douglas wilson
Um and then when you when you inculcate this uh uh sort of uh sanctified or prissied up nihilism, and you foisted on a young generation, some of them will go all in and they'll open up open fire at this in the school cafeteria, right?
Right, yeah.
Uh And we say, and then we say, oh, what happened?
What went wrong?
Nothing went wrong.
They followed your argument.
Others of them are dissatisfied with that.
And they are hungry and they turn up turn out to your event at Penn State.
So what you have is people are divided, people are dividing up.
And uh I think of the the great quote from The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis.
He said, We uh laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
We we uh uh castrate and bid the geldings to be fruitful.
We remove the organ and demand the function.
Uh you can't you cannot cut down all the apple trees and then wonder where the apple pie went.
Right?
You just simply can't do that.
And so consequently, our the task before us right now to these hungry young people is to preach the gospel.
Christ died, he was buried, he rose again from the dead, he ascended into heaven, and he cares how we're living our lives now.
benny johnson
Yes, and God created you with a purpose.
God doesn't need you, he created you for a reason.
Like God doesn't need a Benny, he doesn't need a Doug Wilson, he didn't need a Charlie Kirk, he created a Charlie Kirk and a Donald Trump for a specific purpose.
Your life has a purpose, your pursuit of that purpose gives you meaning.
And foundationally, if you do it through Christ's plan, getting married, having children, having meaning in life, bringing more souls into existence, then you reconnect with what God actually has planned for you, which is that you are a spiritual being, far more than a physical being.
douglas wilson
And absolutely right.
All human meaning, all human value requires a transcendental grounding.
Yes, we meet meaning comes from outside the world.
benny johnson
Yes.
Man, Pastor, I was I was super, I was very I was very nihilist, and you know, I had I you know it's just is what it is, and you know, I got married and and it was great, and then I had my first kid.
You know, like you you welcome your first child to the world, and it is like uh literal and the angels sing, and it's just for you, by the way.
It's just a miracle for you.
It's like a specific miracle just for you as a father.
Yeah, and you hold that baby for the first time, and you just you you just there's no way to describe it.
You just you the washes of emotion uh over overcome you no matter who you are.
Like the strongest, most the strongest, meanest men on earth, like are reduced to to blubbering tears when they hold their their firstborn newborn child or any child, you know, any of their children.
It's happened to every single child of mine.
I have four kids, and it's like I would never have that experience that came so much closer to God, actually.
Um, having that experience, and then every day I come home to those little babies, and it gives me so much purpose in life and and so much connectivity.
douglas wilson
There's a great anti-communist classic book, a great conservative book called Witness by Whitaker Chambers, yeah, who was a who was a Soviet spy, and he worked with Alger Hiss, and that's how Richard Nixon first made his name, going after Alger Hiss.
Well, in Chambers' book, Witness, uh, he was a communist atheist, all in, and his conversion began with staring at his young daughter's ear.
Yeah, so yeah, he was you know, where did this come from?
All of a sudden, uh life is not what I thought it was.
benny johnson
Right.
That and then men need to see that, and like men need that.
And so, yeah, that's why in our own poor capacity, uh, we understand like that.
That is the the missing gap, and that Charlie really did really did get that.
And so um it's an it's exciting, it's an exciting moment to be a Christian, it's an exciting moment to be locked in as a uh you know, as a country and in the faith.
And I think that we're gonna see God's wonders here.
Um, and we're already seeing them.
douglas wilson
Absolutely.
benny johnson
It'll be something fun to fight uh alongside you with uh Pastor.
Uh Pastor Doug Wilson here.
You can uh here's his website.
Uh you can also uh follow uh follow the pastor on uh on X. Do you have an X?
No, did my producers miss that?
Do you okay?
Did my producers miss that?
All right, boys, find the fine, find Pastor Doug Wilson's X account, please.
Here's his website though.
Uh the blog and mab blog.
All right.
douglas wilson
Yeah, sweet.
benny johnson
Um, and you can follow up Pastor Doug Wilson, uh, he's the senior minister of Christ Church.
Uh uh famously attended by our Secretary of War.
Um, and uh it's and and and the the pastor is also the leading trigger um for all CNN anchors.
I cannot encourage you enough to go watch his interview with CNN.
Which is great.
Thank you very much, Pastor.
Thanks for an honor.
douglas wilson
Yeah, appreciate the invitation.
unidentified
All right.
God bless you.
you We're too late, ALX.
A very, very rare miss for ALX.
benny johnson
Get that ex account up.
Get that ex account up.
I want to make sure the Pastor that we make sure that people can follow him on X. Let's go.
President Trump is there.
It is Pastor Doug Wilson, right there.
Moscow, Idaho.
Okay, Moscow, Idaho.
All right.
Get it.
Got that.
Media matters.
Moscow, Idaho.
Whatever.
Okay, great.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, President Trump is right now taking photos in a photo line with world leaders.
He uh had some funny photos with Manuel McCrone.
He like uh completely bodied Macron.
It was really funny.
And now it looks like perhaps Trump will be taking like a large group photo, maybe.
Here he is in front of uh this massive banner of peace.
Look at this.
Here comes all the leaders.
All the leaders will now come in and stand with President Trump.
We caught it just in time.
Look at that.
Perfect.
There's gonna be a couple dozen Arab leaders there, European leaders represented.
I know that we've seen Emmanuel McCrone, the French leader.
Um there we go.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
This is Donald Trump right in the right in the center, and you can see everybody gathering around.
Uh we don't have a list of all the nations, uh, an authoritative list of all the nations represented, but uh I can see Georgia Maloney there from Italy, obviously France represented.
Kind of a long look there's the Jordanian leader.
Yep.
All right.
Here we go.
The full list, goodness gracious.
Uh we have the leaders of Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Palestinian president,
Indonesian, Azerbaijan, French president, German chancellor, British Prime Minister, goodness, Italian Prime Minister, Spanish Prime Minister, holy smokes, Greek Prime Minister, Armenian Prime Minister, Hungarian, Victor Orban,
he's a total G, Pakistani Prime Minister, Canadian, Norwegian, Iraqi, UAE, United Arab Emirates, uh, Oman, uh, Indian, uh, external affairs minister, Japan's ambassador to Egypt, and uh goodness, and some other people.
UN Secretary General, European Council President, and Arab lead secretary.
Holy smokes.
That is the full list there.
Gracious goodness.
unidentified
There's Donald Trump.
benny johnson
Can we hear anything?
Can we hear Trump?
donald j trump
Thank you very much, everybody.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
There he goes.
benny johnson
Trump is rolling.
donald j trump
All the world leaders.
benny johnson
I don't know how he does it.
unidentified
Daniel, happy Thanksgiving.
benny johnson
Just such a happy Thanksgiving.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Cool, I guess.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Very interesting timing.
ALX is trying to sort out when he gives his when does Trump give his speech.
Because we do have a busy day here, and we're going to, I mean, guys, I'm just gonna have to get to get uh locked in as to uh where do we want to go from here.
Okay, so as my uh producer team uh checks in with their caffeine.
Let me tell you about my caffeine.
Obviously, our blackout coffee.
Here we go.
In the unfortunately empty cup, as I have plowed through an entire pot of coffee this morning.
Again, I'm fighting a little bug here, so I'm just wanna, you know, you caffeine is wildly important in uh those moments.
You know what when you have like little kids, they're licking every doorknob.
They're licking the welcome mat at Walmart.
They are vectors for every virus or every bacteria in the world.
It's just is what it is.
I love my children so much.
We just talked about with Pastor about like, you know, how inval how precious and angelic my children are.
But that's just the that's just the nature of the kids.
And they bring home something, and then you get it, and you're like, ah, ah, I gotta have my caffeine.
You're like dragging in the morning, I gotta have my caffeine.
Ladies and gentlemen, blackout coffee is my caffeine for days like today.
Now, I don't know if Trump drinks coffee.
I know it drinks a lot of caffeine in the form of uh soft drinks, but my caffeine does not come from coffee.
My caffeine comes from the black roasted bean of blackout coffees.
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Okay.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, okay.
The production team is trying to figure out what the Thanksgiving thing.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Is it Canadian Thanksgiving?
That's what everyone's saying.
Uh, we don't know.
President Trump is supposed to make a speech here in Egypt.
I'd hate to miss it, but I don't know if it's going to be another three hours.
So I'm like begging the team to maybe figure that out.
I don't know.
Like, I just I'm not sure.
We have more fun stuff to talk about.
Um obviously there was a uh little bit of a flame war that went on on ABC News, one of our favorite little targets.
ABC.
What a disaster of a network.
Uh Disney owned ABC News.
Cut off JD Vance, because they got all pissy that JD Vance was making a great point on their program.
And so they cut to commercial break.
Uh ABC News was trying to push a new hoax, and JD wasn't having any of it.
It is definitely the clip of the weekend.
This went insanely viral.
Um ABC News is publicly funded, right?
They get all these lavish goodies from the taxpayer.
You'd think they'd show a little respect.
Check this out.
This is this clip really pissed me off.
jd vance
Here's George, why fewer and fewer people watch your program and why you're losing credibility, because you're talking for now five minutes with the vice president of the United States about this story regarding Tom Homan, a story that I've read about, but I don't even know the video that you're talking about.
Meanwhile, low-income women can't get food because the Democrats and Chuck Schumer have shut down the government.
Right now, we're trying to figure out how to pay our troops because Chuck Schumer has shut down the government.
You're focused on a bogus story.
You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a guy who has done nothing wrong instead of focusing on the fact that our country is struggling because our government shut down.
Let's talk about the real issues, George.
I think the American people would benefit much more from that than from you going down some weird left-wing rabbit hole where the facts clearly show that Tom Homan didn't engage in any criminal wrongdoing.
unidentified
It's not a weird left-wing rabbit hole.
I didn't insinuate anything.
I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted 50,000, as was heard on an audio tape recorded by the FBI in September 2024.
And you did not answer the question.
Thank you for your time this morning.
No, George, I said that I don't know what next.
We'll be right back.
What?
benny johnson
A little girl.
George Stephanopoulos is little, by the way.
How tall is George Stephanopoulos?
And by the way, ALX, that clip didn't include Stephanopoulos' question.
We have to have that Stephanopoulos' question, right?
Sort of like show the answer, right?
So let's make sure that we get the actual question in there.
How tall is George Stephanopoulos?
He's five feet five.
My wife is taller than him.
Uh yikes.
Yeah, now the production chat's sounding off.
Klein's girlfriend's taller than him.
Boy.
Yeah, he is a teeny little man.
Uh George Stephanopoulos.
Oh boy, that is embarrassing.
Yikes.
Look at that.
George Stephanopoulos is Bill Clinton's actual hatchet man.
What do I mean by that?
He was the he was the press secretary for Bill Clinton.
Oh, that's a good one.
Leave that one up.
unidentified
That's perfect.
benny johnson
So let's do uh just a real quick takedown uh breakdown of George Slopidopoulos, as President Trump calls him.
This guy was the hatchet man for Bill Clinton.
He was the press secretary for Bill Clinton.
He did operations for Bill Clinton.
Like press operate.
Like he was he was the guy, the cleanup guy that they called in at the White House in order to attack the press, in order to bully and badger, and to get Clinton's agenda right.
Voiced in the media.
This guy is a total and complete bad man for the Democrat Party.
That's what he did.
This is how we already made his bones.
He has been hired, not by MSNBC, which I don't even have a problem with MSNBC hiring Gensaki.
Cayley McEnanney, we were on our show this weekend.
Cayley McInney was hired by Fox News.
Okay.
Is what it is.
All right.
It's that they are trying to say that George Stephanopoulos is totally and completely nonpartisan, independent, and not biased in any way.
Which is an absurdity given his background.
Of course, Kayleigh McKenney, who worked for Donald Trump, is gonna have some allegiance to Donald Trump.
I mean, she freaking worked for him as the press secretary.
Love Cayley McEnney.
But like the fact that they trot out George Stephanopoulos as this like impartial juror of newsworthiness, it leads to a lot of problems for ABC.
Like, for instance, how ABC News had to pay $15 million.
Do we have that article?
ABC News had to pay $15 million to Donald Trump to fund Donald Trump's presidential library.
Because George Stephanopoulos told lies about Donald Trump, said he was a rapist.
Donald Trump, of course, was not her, was never convicted of rape.
This is what they've done.
So it's very costly to have frauds like this in your newsroom.
And it's obviously like an antithetical to human nature.
You know, the guy worked for Bill Clinton.
So it's embarrassing.
He did the exact same thing, by the way, in 2024.
He cut off J.D. Vance.
Um.
And it's uh total, you know.
Look again, he's just a fraud and he's just a Democrat partisan hack.
unidentified
Here we go.
jd vance
The Constitution says that the Supreme Court can make rulings, but if the Supreme Court, and look, I hope that they would not do this, but if the Supreme Court said The president of the United States can't fire a general.
That would be an illegitimate ruling, and the president has to have Article II prerogative under the Constitution to actually run the military as he sees fit.
This is just basic constitutional legitimacy.
You're talking about a hypothetical where the Supreme Court tries to run the military.
I don't think that's going to happen, George.
But of course, if it did, the president would have to respond to it.
There are multiple examples throughout American history of the president doing just that.
unidentified
You didn't say military in your answer, and you've made it very clear.
You believe the president can defy the Supreme Court.
Senator, thanks for your time this morning.
jd vance
No, no, no, no, no, no.
George.
unidentified
Roundtable's up next.
We'll be right back.
benny johnson
What a scumbag.
Pull ABC News' broadcast license.
Let them go hack it out.
Like pull their broadcast license.
Let them go fight it out with MSNBC.
Like let's again, you have to understand, and we've done so much research on this.
This is how we know all the pressure points, right?
When Jimmy Kimmel does stuff like this.
Is why we're so effective at getting Jimmy Kimmel ripped off air, and it was really fun.
I'll look back fondly on that for a long time.
Um we know the pressure points.
The pressure point is that ABC News has a uh FCC broadcast license.
This is a federally granted broadcast license that gives ABC News free use of American infrastructure provided by the U.S. government in order to broadcast news in the public interest.
Does those two clips seem like the public interest to you?
Cutting off the vice president, insulting him, cutting his mic.
No, I mean it's propaganda.
They're paying for it, obviously.
But we shouldn't have to pay for it as taxpayers.
They should rip the licenses away from these organizations.
ABC News, NBC News.
Either be fair and broadcast in the public interest, which is in your charter, or we as Amer as Americans need to stop funding it.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Um my team is telling me that there is just there is just no they don't it might be hours before we get to the actual uh President Trump speech, unfortunately.
And so we don't know exactly what's going on next.
They're they're four or five hours behind schedule.
So we're not sure um what happens next, but we're going to uh we're going to obviously not be able to carry on for the next two or three hours.
Um we got a yeah, last pool update.
There's like no pool update.
We we're flying totally blind.
We'd love to carry Trump's speech, but we have a slammed day today.
Um, yeah, unfortunately, we're we're just not gonna be able to make it to the speech.
We'll clearly, if something big happens, we'll do an update on it.
Maybe take it live.
Uh, maybe just do a read on it.
Um, but ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna uh end, I guess, on a on a good note.
President Trump, obviously the president of peace.
Uh, somebody who will not be bringing peace is someone who wants to liberate all criminals from New York.
Guy named Zorhan Mandami, who's caught in a little bit of a scandal here.
Apparently, he took thousands of dollars in illegal foreign donations, $13,000.
This is, of course, a big no-no, very naughty.
Um, the New York Post has learned uh that one of one of the donations was from his mother-in-law.
Um, thousands of dollars, hundreds and thousands of dollars.
Obviously, this guy has really creepy connections globally.
Uh, a true Manchurian candidate here.
Uh, at least 170 of the nearly 54,000 contributions of the leading Democrat candidates campaign came from donors with addresses outside of the United States.
According to the New York City Campaign Finance Board.
Only U.S. citizens or permanent legal residents are allowed to contribute.
Uh, this would be a big violation of excuse me, federal law, state law.
It's very problematic, not just for Zorham and Dami, but anybody with these kind of packs because it's a license to illegally funnel money.
Uh, and foreign countries know that you don't have to go to war against America.
All you gotta do is manipulate the election.
That's exactly right.
Um we'll see what happens.
We'll see if there's a uh full-scale investigation.
President Trump told me that he wants to put Mandami in jail.
So there you go.
Because you'd be in jail.
So happy to get that.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
We're logging off today.
And uh go getting back to work.
With our verse of the day, here we go.
Ephesians 4 3.
Make every effort to keep the unity of the spirit through the bond of peace.
A beautiful message for today.
A bond of peace.
That is what President Trump is doing in the Middle East today.
And um it's our honor to cover it.
We're happy that the wars are winding down or over.
President Trump saying the war is over.
Uh and well, quite frankly, this is exactly what you should do if you are a Christian.
You should end wars and you should do it through strength.
That's what we're going to be.
Uh practicing this week.
We'll have Eric Trump on the show tomorrow, along with Senator Kennedy.
We'll be doing a show live from DC.
Uh, we'll be at DC with our uh uh uh with our show, and then we'll be at the White House and we'll be on Jesse Waters show tomorrow night.
And so please say a prayer for us.
Uh as we will be rocking and rolling once again.
I want wishing to honor Charlie at his metal freedom ceremony at the White House.
So join us tomorrow.
I may God bless you.
This is the greatest country on earth, and in the end, we win.
It's war Benny.
unidentified
Music Burning in the tent.
All of the time I spit in the sands of Egypt.
What a lot of building.
Well, there's not a single building left in the world I want to live in It's not a matter of it, but a matter of when they come over the water, they come over there, not a matter of it, but a matter of when we are living in a world we will never see again.
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Woo!
Woo!
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We're here for a good time, we're here for a long time We're here for a good time, we're here for a good time We're here for a long time, we're here for a good time They said it would be...
A hundred years, but I'm looking at it here.
i can see it here at the end of the world in front of me I'm flying across the desert with the skulls of my enemies.
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