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Oct. 6, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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Trump Deploys National Guard to Chicago as Democrat Leader Caught CALLING For Murder of Republicans
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carley shimkus
We begin with Doug Glasader alive in Washington to break down the court decision against President Trump's National Guard deployment.
Doug, there was a whole lot that happened over the weekend when it comes to this.
What's the latest?
doug luzader
Carly, good morning.
There was.
This is the second setback now for the White House from this federal judge in Oregon.
The administration is trying to restore order for immigration enforcement in Portland.
First, the judge blocked efforts to deploy the Oregon National Guard to help bring order.
Then, when the administration pivoted to send in guard units from California and Texas, the judge blocked that plan too.
Now, President Trump at the White House yesterday is clearly fed up.
unidentified
Portland is burning to the ground.
You have agitators, insurrectionists, the governor, the mayor, the politicians are petrified for their lives.
And you have a judge like that.
doug luzader
Okay, the judge's decision was a win, though, for among others, California Governor Gavin Newsom, who posted on X, the court granted a request for a temporary restraining order halting any federalization, relocation, or deployment of any guard members to Oregon from any state.
Trump's abuse of power won't stand.
The governor of Texas, though, says his troops are ready to go, and they could be sent to Chicago to quell protests there.
He wrote on X, I fully authorized the president to call up 400 members of the Texas National Guard to ensure safety for federal officials.
You can either fully enforce protection for federal employees or get out of the way and let Texas Guard do it.
Now, that came after the governor of Illinois asked him to stay out of it, posting this on X. There is no reason a president should send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge, consent or cooperation.
That federal judge in Oregon, by the way, was appointed by President Trump during his first term.
unidentified
He was.
carley shimkus
All right.
Doug was later live for us in Washington.
Doug, thank you.
unidentified
Surrender that gigantic pie to the frame.
Come here, Russ.
Come here, Russ.
I'll kill you.
Oh!
Jared, this is a very serious show.
benny johnson
I can't be dressing as campy Adam West Batman fighting illegal aliens in sombreros with giant waxy mustaches in the Walmart parking lot.
Even though that does actually reflect reality and why we weren't live on Friday.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Enough!
Enough!
We got a serious show.
We are locked in today.
Jerry's job is to break me.
Jerry's job is, it's like a comic.
You know, when you got a tough room, we got a tough show today.
We got a lot of very serious things to talk about.
We got a very big week.
We've been making a lot of news around here and we are ready to fight back.
There is true evil in our nation.
But Jerry's job every day is to break me.
right?
Much like you get an audience to crack when a tough crowd starts laughing, and that rolling laughter keeps going.
That's Jerry's job every single day with me.
And uh well done, Jerry.
I am I am howling.
That is really funny.
I want that.
And I want that posted right now.
Today is Monday, October 6th, 2025.
Very serious show today.
It is very serious, by the way.
Trump will send hundreds of National Guard troops to crime-ridden terrorist hellscapes of Chicago and Portland.
Get ready for more news on that from the program.
We're gonna rock and roll.
We were in Chicago on Friday.
Uh brought a lot of breaking news to the forefront as we travel with Christy Noam and arrested criminal aliens in the Walmart parking lot.
We did literally do that.
It was a wild romp, and we'll bring you all the updates from that.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is, however, something that I witnessed in Chicago, which was a left-wing terrorist element of the Democrat Party that wishes to attack federal law enforcement and kill us.
And I said, look at these people.
They're all getting arrested right in front of me for violently attacking federal troops.
All that Christy Noam wanted to do was leave the ICE state.
She wanted to leave the ICE detainment facility.
The ICE detainment facility in Chicago is under constant terroristic attack by the left.
There is no parallel for this in our political zeitgeist.
In our political landscape right now, this whole both sides stuff is total bullshit.
And I'm just going to call it out from the top.
There is no parallel.
There is no left-wing organization or left-wing building that gets constantly attacked day and night by the right.
There is no example of that.
Not in modern history, not in postmodern history, not in pre-modern history, never.
There has never been that.
But there are multiple ice facilities all around America that are under constant sniper file fire or terroristic attack by mobs of left-wing orcs that are throwing rocks, bricks, sticks, bringing guns.
Again, sniper fire in Dallas, Texas, just last week.
They're bringing explosives.
They they launched explosives at us in Chicago.
Attacking independent journalists like Nick Sotor, who will be on the show.
This is a whole this is a wholesale domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.
And they are represented by domestic terrorists on the ballot.
We're going to start our show with a candidate in Virginia that openly wants to murder Republicans and their children.
Has he lost any endorsements at all?
Wait till you read this, ladies and gentlemen.
You probably don't need further proof that left wants you dead, but oh, we got it today.
Lauren Boebert will also be on the program, along with Angel Father Joe Abraham from Chicago, who lost his daughter to criminal aliens, and who is probably going to have a very interesting commentary on what's going on in his city.
Also, our team is working on potentially having the attorney general in Virginia on the program, given the fact that this is going to be uh a really big topic of conversation.
So let's lock in.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna talk to you about a man named Jay Jones.
Now, this is an individual who's running for the attorney general of Virginia.
Virginia is a very important state.
It's where a considerable portion of the federal government lives.
Federal government is run right now by Republicans, all three branches of it.
There are millions of Republicans in Virginia.
How many Republicans are registered in Virginia?
Grok or ALX.
ALXAI, we call him.
It's really hard to tell the difference, frankly, between ALX and actual literal AI.
How many Republicans are in Virginia?
I would assume there are millions of them.
Virginia is one of those states that used to go really soundly red, has Republican governor right now, Republican lieutenant governor and a Republican attorney general.
It's one of those states that has plenty of good-hearted Republicans in it.
And Jay Jones is fantasizing about killing all them and their children.
And the Democrat Party is applauding him and doubling down.
I don't know zoom out for just a second and ask, like, wait a second.
Didn't we just all watch Charlie Kirk die after being shot?
By a Democrat, left-wing activist?
Haven't we watched President Trump get shot in the head?
If physical bullet hit Trump in the head fired by a Joe Biden donor.
We never say that about Thomas Matthew Crooks, do we?
A Joe Biden donor.
That's who this individual was, and Joe Biden supporter.
Okay, so another Democrat.
And he also, of course, killed members of the MAGA family.
We then have witnessed the prosecution and conviction of Ryan Ralph, who was trying any way he possibly could to kill Donald Trump.
This is, of course, a man who is a Joe Biden donor, supporter, Ukraine activist.
And of course, thousands upon thousands of other leftists committing violent crimes day and night.
Whether it is the transgender shooter in Minneapolis, or the manager opened fire on an ice facility and killed a couple of criminal aliens in custody.
You know, it's almost too numerous to count all of them.
So maybe you don't need any further evidence that the Democrat Party has gone from opposing the Republican Party in peaceful ways, the way that you do at the ballot, and voting your ideas and having robust debate.
That's the way that we've normally done things in this country for about 250 years.
They have now moved into a very different style of politics.
Revolutionary and pre-Civil War style politics, where it is morally permissible to murder your opponent for having a different worldview.
It's morally permissible to murder them for power.
This is a very different worldview than we've gotten accustomed to fighting in this country.
It has been a very long time since we've had to face this.
But this is the nature of humans.
It is utterly and totally, by the way, uh has been the nature of humans forever.
We live in a fallen and sunken world.
It is godless.
Let's call it what it is.
If you believe in God, if you are a believer in creation and an all-powerful God that made us, then you're against murder.
You're against murder because it's Wrong.
You don't want it to happen to you because the Bible says so many times.
New Testament, Old Testament, Christ.
You're just against murder.
But if you're godless and you don't believe that humans have any value, and you believe that we all descended from the animals, and we should just be treated like animals, the way you treat cattle or a dog that's gotten too long in the tooth, as they say, you just take them out back.
If a dog becomes an inconvenience or whatever, you know, on the farm, if it's too old or diseased, then you do you did the old yeller, right?
That's how that's what the old timers say, right?
If a cow, if it's time to like eat, you know, if it's time to like use the cow for something else other than grazing, you kill it.
If you just believe that we're we are all descendant from the animals, then when someone is an inconvenience, you just go murder them.
That's not the way that I think.
That's not the way that any moral person thinks, but it is a way that the considerable portion of the left thinks these days.
And how can I say that?
Well, polling says that, but also their actions say it and actions make it the man.
I really just don't care what you tell me.
Talk is cheap.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
We disavow violence.
Do you?
Here's a perfect opportunity to do that in Virginia.
Jay Jones.
Sick bastard.
Here are the texts.
Let's go ahead and read them.
Jay Jones says he wants to kill his opponent.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
He says not only that, he wants them to be a wash in blood.
And he wants to piss on their graves.
He wants them to die.
He wants bullets in their heads.
He says they're the same people here.
Hitler, Pol Pot, and Gilbert.
Gilbert is his Republican opponent in the race.
He says he gets two bullets in the head.
He said actually he would save Hitler and Paul Pot and kill his opponent.
unidentified
Then he says he wants to kill their kids.
benny johnson
So we want to like make sure that I uh kill his children because they're little fascists.
That's what Jay Jones says.
This is the man who is running for the top law enforcement position in the state of Virginia.
Very uh important state.
A state that has, again, millions of Republicans.
Do we have the numbers?
Boys, send them to me.
Do the numbers.
How many Republican voters are there?
Oh, there's almost two million.
Got it.
So almost two million Republicans, and Jay Jones wants to kill them all.
Do you see how we uh get to a place where things are untenable and are very shaky right now?
unidentified
Do you see how societies collapse?
benny johnson
Yes, it's like Bolshevik revolution stuff.
So that's what Jay Jones says.
He says it here.
Nobody has said nobody has come out and said these are fake or doctored or they're AI.
They're real, they're 100% legitimate.
The man who is the leading candidate for law enforcement in Virginia wants you dead.
Now, Trump and J.D. Vance, of course, have come out and called for him to drop out.
Even MSNBC of all places has called for Jay Jones to drop out of the race, because of course you can't run a society like this unless your end goal is the mass murder of Republicans.
Now it's indefensible, but maybe without Trump eating bullets and without Charlie eating bullets.
Maybe you could like, you could argue a fit of peak.
Or you could grovel and cry.
You could like cry about it and like seeing Kumbayan do the whole like thing that Democrats normally do to try and absorb, whitewash themselves of their sins.
But no, not now.
Now we witness Democrat terrorism every single day.
And so when the Democrat candidate for the chief law enforcement officer in Virginia says he wants to mass murder Republicans, you gotta take that seriously.
Even MSNBC, here we go, is saying drop out of the race.
unidentified
Coming up, an attorney general candidate in Virginia is apologizing for his texts about a state lawmaker.
We'll go through the message.
And probably is doing a lot there.
All right, morning Joe.
We'll be right back.
benny johnson
Probably withdrawal from the race.
Here's the political ad that puts into stark relief what Jay Jones has done.
dana perino
Start with breaking news from the campaign trail.
unidentified
Jay Jones is under fire.
Jay Jones is under fire after messages he sent in 2022 saying former Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert should be shot.
dana perino
I'm excited about this chicken.
unidentified
It's been great to be out on the campaign trail with uh Jay Jones.
You said Gilbert's wife could watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views.
We deserve an attorney general who will stand up for the people of Virginia.
Jones said, quote, Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot.
Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.
madison scarpino
Jones doubled down, saying, quote, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists?
Yes.
unidentified
How can Virginians trust a man who said something so horrific, so callously?
Only when people feel paid personally do they move on policy.
benny johnson
I don't know about you.
You know, I don't like libs, and I don't like Joe Biden, and I don't like Barack Obama.
And I can list off a bunch of people that I think have really wrecked the country and made it very hard for my children to succeed.
And that makes me angry and it embitters me against them.
And we spend a lot of energy making sure that those libs and that ideology can be salted from the earth, right?
By peaceful means.
We vote them out.
We marginalize them in these small little embarrassing pockets, right?
Force them all to live in Portland, yada yada, right?
Like go, you know, everyone go live in Baltimore, right?
For all I care.
Um you can't find a single text in my phone.
You wouldn't be able to find a single chat, private or otherwise.
Can't find a single hour or minute, and I live stream for like hundreds of thousands of hours, you know.
Like how much content we put out, like we have billions and billions of views on our channels.
Like, we put up content all the time, every day.
Not nothing, not one time.
Have my phone.
Go through all my private chats.
You can't find one time where I fantasize about killing anyone.
You know, my political opponent or otherwise.
Uh, you know, one time where like I would I would go in and like talk about their children, like murdering kids.
Well, no, you know, like not even in price, my private, darkest, small hours of the evening, like whatever, drunkest conversation.
I don't even drink anymore, but like, okay, I used to.
Like, never.
unidentified
What is it with these people?
benny johnson
It is a sunken spiritual state.
They are godless.
And God help us, because that is what we're fighting.
We're fighting about we're fighting people that are totally and completely permissible of genocide against us because they don't like our political, because they think that they could get power.
This is how all genocides start, actually.
The Bolsheviks or any communist genocide, anything, they just they just they don't even have power if they kill their way to it.
They kill all the people that stand in their way, they can take all the power.
They can see as the means of production.
So every conservative, the two million Republicans in Virginia, will now know that the top law enforcement official in their state, if elected, is willing to kill them and their children.
They know that their neighbors, their friends, the people who voted for Democrats, they also voted for a man who's willing to genocide them.
Do you understand what a dangerous place we are in right now?
Why it is absolutely Imperative that the Trump administration acts with absolute swiftness to crush this element of society.
This is the ideology that must be crushed.
It is the ideology that says, yeah, you won the argument.
Now I'll kill you.
That's what they did to Charlie.
That's what they did to Trump.
That's what they wouldn't want to do in Virginia.
And Democrats are based on all available polling going to elect this person.
And then Republicans of Virginia are gonna like mow the lawn and look across the street at a guy that voted for someone to genocide them.
What kind of a society are you gonna run?
Well, like what how what does that say about our society?
What does that say about who we are?
I don't want to genocide the left.
I don't want any left winger to die.
I don't.
I've never wished for it.
I would never call for it ever, under any circumstance.
Put them in a court of law, try him, find him guilty, lock them up, whatever.
But like by extrajudicial means, I do not want and never will call for any of that.
There is a there's and neither would you.
I checked the chat, neither do you.
There's something fundamentally different.
We've been banging on about this for a long time.
And now it's just in very stark relief with this story.
Incredibly stark relief.
Man, it is devastating what is happening here.
President Trump has called for the total and complete resignation and full investigation, actually, into this candidate.
It's come out that radical left lunatic Jay Jones, who is running against Jason Miares, the great attorney general of Virginia, made sick and demented jokes, if they were jokes at all, which were not funny.
He wrote down and sent to people concerning murdering Republicans, murdering their children, murdering their wives.
Abigail Spanberger, she is uh the lib running for governor there, who is running for governor, is weak and ineffective and refusing to acknowledge what this lunatic has done.
More Democrats are saying resignation, this is resignation from campaign territory.
Democrat Jay Jones should drop out of the race immediately, and the people of Virginia must continue to have a great attorney general who has my complete and total endorsement.
Okay.
Look at this.
This is how Democrats are reacting.
Like, again, you would assume that this would mean, you know, a moment of reflection and consideration.
But no.
The Virginia Beach Democrats issue a statement which they reaffirm their support for Jay Jones, the attorney general, and call for all Virginians to line up behind Jay Jones.
Otherwise, you'll be lined up in front of a firing squad.
Do you understand?
Do you understand what time it is?
I don't want it to be this time.
I like the 90s.
I like times when like both parties agreed that America is awesome and that we're going to like argue over marginal tax rates and health care.
But we've moved beyond that.
We no longer have a functional debate.
We no longer have the pressure release valves that were installed for a moral and good people because we are no longer dealing with a moral or good people.
We are dealing with a left-wing terrorist element that wishes to kill us.
Somebody shows you who they are, believe them.
Somebody tells you who they are, believe them.
Jay Jones has told us that he wants to genocide Republicans.
So now that you know that, what are you going to do about it?
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Well, I mean, the people of Virginia should choose at the very least that they want to have an anti-genocide policy.
Like that they're against extrajudicial murder of children because of their politics.
Seems like the baseline for a functional society.
Maybe we're asking too much.
Jason Miaras was on Fox News just seconds ago, reacting to this.
Let's listen.
dana perino
You're in a re-election battle, Jay Jones is your opponent.
Based on your experience, having been in this office for a while, do you believe that Jay Jones, even after he apologized, would he actually have the temperament needed to be in that job?
jason miyares
Listen, my job as the attorney general is a top prosecutor in the state of Virginia.
Your job is to stop violence.
I can't imagine somebody running for this office that has advocated for violence, not just against a colleague, somebody he has worked with, but against children.
He literally said in their text messages that have been posted online, when he was called out for his rhetoric, he actually, instead of apologizing, doubled down.
And when he said you literally want Jennifer Gilbert's children to die in her arms, he said yes.
That only through pain does change happen.
Think about that mindset.
Politics aside, that is an incredibly dark place you have to be coming from to wish the death of small children.
By the way, that he has met.
They had been to the Capitol before.
We've all we all know we serve each other, we know each other's children.
I can't imagine the mindset that is there.
And he previously that what set this off is he was angry that Republicans had said nice words about a Democratic colleague at a funeral that someone that had passed.
He said he wanted to piss on their graves.
This is not the temperament of somebody that should be running for attorney general.
So I don't view this as a right versus left issue.
This is a right versus wrong issue.
This is really a question for Virginia of what kind of Virginia we could expect of our leaders, because this is the most basic test of civility and decency, and he has failed this.
So I think his apology is fake because he was called out at the time when he texted this to a colleague.
He said this is not appropriate, and he doubled down on it.
He is apologizing.
He's trying to save his political career because he's a politician.
He's not a prosecutor.
Because I can tell you right now, Dana, I've met with victims as a prosecutor.
I have uh I've actually had to sit through the autopsy of a minor child that died of a gunshot wound.
I can't imagine if you meet with a mother that has lost a child, I will tell you this.
There is no cry, like the cry of a mother that has lost their child.
None.
And to so callously advocate this, to murder children of a political rival means he is wholly disqualified for this office because when I took this office, I swore an oath not to a political party, but to protect all Virginians, Republicans, Democrats, and independents.
I cannot imagine somebody seeking this office and the responsibilities that come to this office being the top prosecutor that A has never prosecuted a case in his life, clearly has never met with victims, and then advocating for the death of children, he's solely disqualified, in my opinion, of serving as the Attorney General of Virginia, and I think the voters are going to disqualify him as well.
benny johnson
Goodness gracious.
What timeline are we living in?
that we even have these conversations my producers are telling me actually right now that jason miaras will be joining the program it's wonderful to hear uh Sounds like he'll be joining quite soon.
He wants to hop on and talk to you directly.
So we very much look forward to that.
As our team is getting him set, uh, want to just announce that as a surprise guest here live on the stream.
Well done.
Uh my producers are also telling me that we should um let's just push one more Jason Miarez commentary on Fox News here just a moment ago.
Uh, talking about the apology, right?
So that you know, Jay Jones has come out and said, you know, I'm really sorry that I want to genocide all you Republicans.
I promise I didn't mean it, wink wink, nod nod.
Don't you even worry about it.
You know, we'll just keep blasting away at the President Trump and Charlie Kirk.
We don't actually mean these things.
Really good answer here.
Let's go.
unidentified
I don't know this answer, so I'll ask you.
Has he apologized to Todd Gilbert directly in his family?
Is he called them?
jason miyares
He claimed when he when this first broke out, when the messages first broke, he really he said he was sorry for some inappropriate text, and then he simply tried to attack me, uh, saying that this was somehow a s uh a smear campaign.
But he admits it, these are his texts.
He's admitted he sent them.
He claims he has tried to reach out the Todd several hours after the fact he tried to do damage control.
Uh but again, that's why I think this is fake.
He was called out contemporaneously when it happened by a colleague, and that's when he doubled down.
That's when he doubled down and advocated for the death of small children.
I can't fathom that.
I can't fathom somebody uh that is seeking this office uh with that worldview.
I mean, give me an example, Bill.
I have a sign outside of my office in Richmond that I see every day when I go in the work of the Attorney General's office.
It's a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
It says, I have never found a difference of opinion in politics, philosophy, or religion for cause to withdraw from a friend.
It reminds me that we have so much more that unites us than divides us.
And politics should never even have you withdraw from a friendship.
I can't imagine viewing politics as a justification for murdering children.
And so I think this is one of the moral tests of our time.
What are our politics going to look like forward?
Not just for Virginia for nationwide.
I think this is a real inflection point, a time of choosing for us.
Do you want an attorney general that my attitude has been I protect all Virginians?
When I've met with victims, I have never once met with a victim and asked them whether they voted for me.
Not once.
Never once asked them what their political persuasion is.
Because my job is they are somebody beautifully and wonderfully made in the image of their creator.
My job is to be their protector.
I say the attorney general is the people's protector, not protector of a political party, the people's protector.
That's my vision as attorney general.
That's the oath I took.
That's what I do every day as the as the attorney general's top prosecutor.
benny johnson
Well, ladies and gentlemen, as we said, it is an argument of good versus evil, darkness versus light, and people who believe in God and people who don't.
Just is what it is.
Godliness versus godlessness.
Did you hear that?
The Attorney General, who will be joining our program, uh saying, I believe that people are beautifully and wonderfully made.
Well, what is that worldview?
That is the Christian worldview that says that life has value.
Whether you're talking about an abortion clinic or whether you're talking about murdering the living children of your political opponents, uh, you can say, as a moral person, it's all wrong.
Like that's wrong.
We'd like to find political solutions to ensure that it doesn't happen, that kids don't get murdered, that adults don't get murdered.
We're like anti-murder, right?
It's one of the big commandments, a pretty big one, something that also Christ talked about a lot.
And it's something that like we're not not going to do.
There's got to be other solutions than that.
The left says, nope, that's the end of the argument.
I'll just kill you.
And we've been seeing that in spades.
So, ladies and gentlemen, uh the again, the attorney general will be joining our program live in just one moment.
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This is where Donald Trump did the hundred thousand-person rally.
I think we can bring thousands of people here.
We're gonna be hitting the bricks.
Jack's polling is incredible.
He's tied right now in the state of New Jersey.
An amazing and incredible opportunity for us to flip a blue state red, for us to advance and Go on offense.
So again, we are going to be locked in this week.
If you are in New Jersey or Maryland or Pennsylvania or New York.
Well, come on down and roll with us.
We'll be registering voters.
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And we are going to make sure that Jack Chitterelli is the next governor of the great state of New Jersey, ladies and gentlemen.
The good fellas are coming in.
Real skullcrackers here.
All right, ladies.
Never miss an opportunity to give yourself a uh nice movie poster from a scarsy film.
Yeah.
A lot of violence in Scorsese films.
And boy, uh looks like, you know, that's just how that's just Hollywood.
But now it looks like our political ecosystem is about as violent as a Scorsese film.
It's terrible.
Something that obviously you don't need any convincing of after watching President Trump and Charlie Kirk both get shot in the head by left-wingers.
Along with, again, thousands and thousands and thousands of other countless acts of violence from the left.
We witnessed a lot of that when we were in Chicago with DHS Secretary Christie Gnome last Friday.
But now, of course, in Virginia, we are able to see it on full display.
Sometimes the violence just sort of comes from a terrorist, a dark terrorist element of the left.
Now it's coming from the top.
As we have been covering here, ladies and gentlemen, Jay Jones, running for attorney general in Virginia, openly fantasizes about murdering Republicans and their children.
Joining us live right now is his Republican opponent in the state of Virginia.
Jason Miares.
Welcome to the show.
unidentified
Welcome to the show.
benny johnson
Mr. Attorney General, thank you so much for being on.
What a wild time that we are seeing right now in America.
I don't like how much political violence there is, especially on the street.
It seems to predominantly coming be coming from the left, almost exclusively from the left.
And I think that's because they're getting signals from their leaders that violence is permissible.
And that I believe is what we're seeing here in the state of Virginia.
Your reaction to these text messages, and more importantly, Mr. Attorney General, why has no Democrat disavowed this monster?
jason miyares
Well, I mean, listen, I, you know, when you're the attorney general of Virginia, you're the top prosecutor of the state.
Your job is to stop violence.
I can't imagine somebody running for this obvious obvious office that has advocated for violence, not just against the political opponent, but advocating violence against small children.
That's probably what is the most shocking.
If you look at the text and change he had with a colleague, about a colleague, about someone he had served with, worked with, about children that he had met.
Uh, the speaker would bring his children to the assembly.
And when he was called out on, listen, you're advocating for uh hoping that the children of Jennifer Gilbert would die.
Uh, he said yes.
He said, actually, pain is the only way change occurs.
Think about politics aside.
This is not a right versus left issue.
Anyways, this is now a right versus wrong issue.
I've said this is now a referendum in Virginia.
What kind of commonwealth, what kind of Virginia are we going to be that our leaders are failing the most basic test of decency?
Um, and I think obviously the Charlie Kirk assassination shocked all of us.
But the idea and the point that I made when Charlie Kirk, he was not obviously murdered because of the second amendment.
He was murdered because of the first amendment.
He had no power other than the power of ideas.
He had no power.
He wasn't a congressman, a governor, or mayor.
He never signed laws into effect or drafted laws.
He just had ideas.
And the idea that there are people that view uh on the far, far left that ideas uh can be silenced, uh, is shocking.
But even more shocking, you have somebody literally running to be the top law enforcement officer of the state that is advocated for violence against children.
I never thought I would live in a Virginia.
This is even a debate.
And you know, other Democrats have said, well, these are reprehensible, he should be held accountable, but they never say what accountability looks like.
Think about that.
Um, and and listen, Benny, I have a sign outside of my office in Richmond.
I see every day when I go in the office.
It's a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
And it is this I have never found a difference of opinion in politics, in philosophy or religion as cause to withdraw from a friend.
It's just a reminder for me that at the end they were all made in the image of our creator.
We have we we are Americans.
I can't imagine that kind of mindset that I bring to my job as attorney general, which I'm the people's protector, I'm protecting everyone, no matter what your background, Republican, Democrat, or independent, uh, to have the mindset that it's okay to inflict pain on a child and a man's uh family to advance a political agenda.
To me, that's just beyond shocks the conscience.
I think it's a moment of choosing, as I've noted in Virginia.
benny johnson
Yeah, Mr. Attorney General, I think that we've recognized quite the pattern here, which is that if you don't believe in God, if you don't believe that people were created, and that they have the divine mark of a creator and that they are inherently inalienably valuable and have rights, then you're gonna be willing to slaughter them for power.
And you've seen this in every Bolshevik revolution and every Marxist revolution, communist revolution, uh throughout the world in the last hundred years.
This is obviously the number one body count for any political ideology is godless communism that says that people are just numbers on a ledger and you just get rid of them for power.
jason miyares
Yeah.
benny johnson
And I believe that's actually what we're what we're seeing here.
It seems like like godliness versus godlessness, where you can really justify just the murder of human beings, uh, if they're inconvenient to you or your or your political ideology.
jason miyares
Well, if you know my background, the Miaris family fled communist Cuba.
And I remember asking my mother, how did this happen?
Uh I love to point out the year Fidel Cashwhe took power in Cuba, Cuba had the same GDP as Greece, the year he died, had the same GDP as Sudan.
Socialism never works.
But I said, How did did Cuba descend into this?
And my mother told me this.
She said, everyone in society once the communists took over, both in academia, with their state-controlled media, with Castro and his cronies, everyone in society was labeled one of two categories oppressor or oppressed.
My mother said this to me.
She said, you can always justify evil if you claim you're doing it against the oppressor on behalf of the so-called oppressed.
And that is a mindset, obviously, you've noted moments of history dating back to the Jacobins.
And you are right.
Uh, communism has the largest body count in human history.
Um, but listen, I want to be clear.
Whenever I've met with a victim of a violent crime, I've never asked them their political persuasion.
And I started off as a prosecutor.
Uh you know, crime knows no political boundaries.
And I will tell you this, Benny.
When you've met with crime victims, when you met with a mom that has lost a child, there's no cry like the cry of a mother that's lost a child.
I can't imagine then wishing that on small children yourself and then asking people to hire you to be the top prosecutor.
It tells me that he's not ready for the job.
It's tell me he's never met with victims.
He's never been to a crime scene.
He's never actually experienced the requirements of what's required in this job.
And so uh we have to realize the biggest evil we can ever have in a society is the this notion that ideas matter more than people.
And like you, I'm a person of faith.
One of my articles of my faith is a Latin termago day.
It simply means just image of God.
It means everybody ever meet, no matter who they are, they're where they are in life.
They just have immediate amazing value because they're made in the image of their creator.
benny johnson
Yeah.
jason miyares
The idea that you would wish a violent death on young children to prove a political point shows that you're just morally unfit for the office, in my opinion.
benny johnson
Yes.
So can you explain a little bit why you are seeing so much of a protection mechanism around Jay Jones that is being reinforced?
Democrat Party is doubling down on this.
Democrat voters in Virginia are gonna vote for this guy if he makes it to the election.
And what are they signaling to their Republican neighbors?
You know, do you live in a is Virginia a failed state?
Is it a failed society where the millions of Democrats that are registered in Virginia will willingly vote for the murder of their neighbors and their children.
They'll put that man as the top law enforcement official who wishes to genocide them.
And this is these are like real questions because he said he wants to do this.
And you should believe people when they say things like this, especially when the left is putting bullets into the heads of Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk.
They both they shot them both in the head.
And so you gotta believe these people.
And what does it say about Virginia when presumably millions of Democrats will go out and vote for the murder of their Republican neighbors' children?
Dark.
jason miyares
Well, listen, I first of all, and I know I'm biased.
I'm a Virginian.
This is the most remarkable state, not just because of our history or ties to our founders.
We have this is a remarkable place with a remarkable people.
The number of veterans we hear outpace every other state.
These are we are good and decent people.
I'm fully confident the Virginians are going to reject uh reject the this type of political discourse.
And you've actually uh brought up a point where uh nobody's held them accountable yet.
No, the Democrats continue.
I mean, think about Abigail Spamberger.
If someone was applying to be an Abigail Spanberger's cabinet, and it turned out, let's just say the Secretary of Public Safety in Virginia, somebody was applying it turned out they had advocated for violence against the children of a political opponent.
Would she still hire them?
No.
But she's still saying, you know what, I'm still willing to campaign with him.
I'm not asking him to drop out of the race.
I'm happy perfectly happy for him to be the top prosecutor in the state.
That is that is an amazing lack of judgment, in my opinion, that someone would still have that mindset that power is so important that it trumps decency.
That is a shocking thing to see uh by some by by Abigail and some other people right now in Virginia.
But I know this Virginians are good and decent people.
They're gonna reject this type of politics.
Because I get, as I said, this is no longer a necessarily a campaign, at least in Virginia, between right and left.
It's between right versus wrong.
It's a basic test of moral decency.
Uh Jay Jones has failed it.
Uh, and I'm confident that Virginians are going to reject this type of politics uh this fall.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, how do you run how do you run a state when the there are two million registered Republicans in Virginia?
How can you run a state when the top law enforcement official is okay with the murder of them and their children?
You can't.
It's not a functional society.
It's a collapse society.
It's a secretarian violent civil war society.
And so, like, I I I you know, I pray that that that doesn't happen.
I do find it remarkable though that more Democrats haven't disavowed this.
You know, every Democrat put their little hat on, including Barack Obama all the way on down and ran to cover for Jimmy Kimmel and like lost their minds when Jimmy Kimmel, right, got put in timeout for making a nasty joke about Charlie Kirk and lying about his murder.
They defended him.
Yet none of those democrats, I don't see any tweets from Barack Obama about Jay Jones and how evil it is to call for the murder of Republicans.
What's going on there, Mr. Turner?
jason miyares
Well, I don't know.
I mean, again, that goes back to I ideas, once ideas matter more than people, then that puts you in a very, very dark place where you could justify anything.
And when power matters more than people, and so I do view this as the test of basic decency.
Jay Jones has clearly failed that test.
Uh, that's where we are.
But listen, I said I have great faith in Virginians.
Uh, I have great faith they're gonna see through this.
Um, I would like to see uh more leadership from other Democrats nationally, because what they should be doing is saying this is politics aside, put politics aside.
This is a failure of basic decency.
Uh, this is not just a one-off.
This is somebody who was uh had too much of drink.
Just so you know the background of this.
This text started because he was angry that Republicans had attended a funeral and said nice things about a Democratic member of the legislature, Joe Johnston, who had passed away.
And his words, I would piss on the grave of my opponents.
That's how this whole exchange with a colleague started.
He was upset the Republicans said something nice about a Democrat.
Think about that mindset.
Think about what place you have to be.
And then when he was called out when he, you know, said he wanted to put two bullets in Todd Gilbert's head, when he was called out, that is when he doubled down and said, Yes, I want to see his children die in his mother's arms.
That is a place I don't want to see anybody Elevated to to be elected a local councilman, must less be the top law enforcement per uh leader in the state of Virginia.
Not acceptable behavior disqualifying.
benny johnson
It's totally sick.
I want to give you just the last word here, Mr. Attorney General, about morality.
You keep using sort of the the John Adams term about America, you know, a good and decent and moral people and this constitution and our founding documents are written for none other.
And they actually won't work if you don't have those people in America.
Uh and maybe give uh an opportunity to talk to us about how your how how you would never find texts like this in your phone because you're a Christian and because you believe in Christ and you believe in the Bible and you actually believe in these these morals.
Maybe you could make a moral separation, right?
For permissibility of murder versus non-permissibility.
jason miyares
Well, well, listen, I mean, there's no justification for taking someone's life.
My my uncle was arrested at Bay of Pigs evasion and went through a mock execution under cashier's regime because of ideas, because he had handed out anti-casual leaflets.
You can never justify uh violence to try to silence an opponent.
But listen, uh a wise Marine once told me that if you go to Arlington National Cemetery and you walk among those crosses and the stars of David's, you actually don't see an R or a D next to anyone's name.
And never forget someone who thinks differently than you politically is given the last full measure of devotion to this remarkable country.
That has always struck with me.
In other words, we have big debates about big ideas.
Scalia said, I may disagree vehemently in ideas, I may attack ideas.
I'm not gonna attack people.
And I I don't view somebody who thinks differently than me politically as my enemy.
They may be sincerely wrong, and given the fact that I've seen how dangerous some of these ideas can be, but I've never can never imagine, never imagined advocating for violence against someone that I disagree with politically, much less their young children that I have met.
That's just shocking to me.
And candidly, it has been a lot of processing for me this weekend.
Where I thought I knew Jay Jones.
I served with him briefly in the General Assembly, wasn't ever friends with him uh in that sense, knew who he was, would see him at events and would see him in the chambers.
You think you'd know somebody, clearly I didn't.
benny johnson
So, in conclusion here, and let's please put up the attorney general social media to make sure that everybody fights with the people who are fighting for us.
You want him to drop out.
You think he should drop out?
Do you think there should be any investigation here?
I mean, do you think there should be further action uh potentially to see if he he meant this?
Like what are you what are you calling for to happen with Jay Jones?
jason miyares
Listen, I think he's disqualified himself.
I think he has to make that decision whether he wants to continue to stay in this race.
I think Virginians are gonna find them disqualifying and vote against him.
But if people want to follow me, they can follow me on Twitter, Jason Miara's VA.
Uh, they can also just uh Google or put a Jason for Virginia.com, Jason Miar is like my last name's Cuban, so it's a little different.
The I is pronounced like an E. But uh if you tune in Jason for Virginia.com, you can go and you can also support me.
Uh, because what I would say as well is um we want to make sure that we win this race, that we are sending a message to the cross of nation, no more.
No more, no more silencing voices, no more advocating for violence.
There will be a price to pay when you're openly saying that you want to murder small children, murder a fellow political opponent.
That type of language needs to end.
benny johnson
Goodness, yes.
Yes, thank you.
We're done losing friends and we're done losing uh icons and thought leaders in our movement due to left-wing violence.
And when somebody shows you who they are, believe them.
And uh, you should believe Jason Miars.
Here is his uh social media handles and also his campaign webpage.
Please, everyone, go and fight with Jason and ensure that we have a godly and good and moral Virginia and is preserved by strong uh moral men like this.
Uh, thank you very much, Mr. Attorney General.
Godspeed.
jason miyares
Thank you, Ben.
unidentified
Thank you, Ben.
Thank you.
benny johnson
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Excuse me.
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You know, you guys are gonna have to make a call.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, looking through my uh producer chat to tell me where am I going from here.
Somebody needs to make a call.
So who do we want?
What do we want to, what do we want to do?
Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
Uh it looks like, and it looks like we are moving on to the further to further hellscape uh in our nation, the city of Chicago.
We were in Chicago last week.
Trump is now sending in 400 National Guard troops to Chicago.
What we saw last week was really bad.
We saw a bunch of uh terrorists, left-wing terrorists, attack the ICE facility.
And then the day that we left Chicago, there was another terrorist attack where a bunch of cars surrounded an ice vehicle, rammed it, and then they had the the agents had to shoot.
The agents had to had to blast out of the vehicle, had to get out of the vehicle and discharge their firearms because some of the people that were ramming the car, they were they were armed.
Look at this.
This is the footage of the attack.
I mean, it's just it is like a sunken and broken society.
And by the way, their local law enforcement are being told not to help, which is actually aiding and abetting terrorism against the federal government.
And it should be charged.
It absolutely should be charged.
We watched all these arrests.
Here's my footage of libs.
We called it the lib lineup of all these libs getting arrested.
Every one of these libs, uh, assaulted federal police forces that were just trying to make it so that Secretary Christy Gnome could walk.
She wasn't even walking.
She could drive out of the ice facility.
Gross.
At least a dozen, a dozen arrests.
They also had to have a sniper position up on the roof.
The sniper is unbelievable.
I've never seen like a federal building, you know, domestically with a sniper.
And the reason why you have to have a sniper up on the roof is because Antifa and left-wing terrorists are so violent that they might have that they it was conceivable that they could try and attack and murder the Secretary of Homeland Security.
So you have to ensure that you have overwatch.
You know, remember Charlie Trump shot from shot from elevated positions.
There was no overwatch in those in those shootings and murders.
And so this is what you now have to have.
You have to have an overwatch.
We did a full documentary.
I encourage you to go watch it.
And this is uh some of the this is some of our documentary footage here.
It's up available on uh YouTube right now, and you can see just kind of like the full day that we had all this footage shot by us.
It's a very cool experience.
And uh we'll see.
We'll see.
We may have more of this coming.
This was uh a wild, it was a wild time.
Uh in the put put the documentary up, please.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Uh again, this full documentary uh is available on our YouTube uh of our day, and you can see a ton of behind the scenes.
We like going out and showing you this because, well, quite frankly, it's it really important that we establish what is happening in our country right now.
There is a domestic terrorist element.
There is no there is no correlation, no other example, no both sides is that you can show of anyone on the right behaving like this against federal police.
You can't there is no such thing.
There is no such thing.
They've been attacking this ice station for months.
Same thing in Portland for months with knives and bricks and sticks and rocks and explosives, and now firearms.
And what has the local authorities done?
The local authorities have told their police to help the terrorists.
In the moment, we're gonna have Nick Sotor on, who's someone who was just arrested in Portland for filming and reporting on Antifa.
This is the total and complete collapse of a society when the police are there aiding and abetting the terrorists.
Is Trisha McLaughlin from DHS explaining?
tricia mclaughlin
The chief of patrol told local police to be able to do that.
unidentified
And who told the chief of patrol?
tricia mclaughlin
We believe this comes from the top.
It looks like JB Pritzker is putting a politics ahead of public safety.
It's a fat ahead of our law enforcement, their safety.
The facts on the ground are the fact that our law enforcement were being rammed by vehicles, about 10 vehicles, one of which had a semi-automatic firearm on her.
She also had a history of trying to dox and encouraging the threatening of these agents.
Uh, after this incident occurred, after this attack occurred, our law enforcement were then surrounded by a violent crowd who began to throw bottles and rocks at our agents.
They called for backup from the local police department, but no, they wouldn't respond.
In fact, our ICRO agents had to respond, who were later actually then attacked again with a vehicle as they were trying to respond.
There's viral images of that going on across the internet.
So we're seeing that more and more of these violent activists are using their vehicles as a weapon, as a tactic against our law enforcement.
JB Pritzker, though, our message to him go walk your streets.
Go see the violent crime against your constituents.
Go see the violent crime against our own law enforcement because he continues to go on CNN and MSNBC and whitewash the facts.
He's saying that we're using racial profiling to go after people.
That's absolutely not true.
We are targeting criminals, targeting criminals who have perpetuated very horrendous violence against the people of Chicago, and yet he continues to lie on air and say that we are arresting children, zip tying children.
These are fake images that have continued to be debunked.
Uh, JB Pricker needs to get a spine.
He needs to stand up for the people of Chicago, because if not, we will continue to flood the zone and surge federal resources to make sure the people of Chicago and the people of Illinois are safe again.
benny johnson
I don't care if you don't like ice.
I don't care if you want to vote Trump out.
You really hate Trump and you're so upset about it, and you watch Jimmy Kimmel all night.
That doesn't matter to me.
Like, good for you, you're an American, like whatever.
What you're not allowed to do is attack the agents and try and kill them.
Like, what kind of country are we running here?
What you're not allowed to do is arrest the independent journalists who are telling the story.
I'm very honored to have had the story of our day told by Jesse Waters in his coverage.
It's very cool.
Here's a really quick wrap-up.
jesse watters
Christy Gnome at the quarters of the mostly peaceful protesters that they've been bombarding.
Gnome hit the roof to scope out the sniper's nest.
The ice picketers were getting rough and rowdy.
unidentified
The ice picketers were getting rough and rowdy.
jesse watters
Ouch.
You mess with ice, you get the cuffs.
benny johnson
You got a dozen arrests over here.
They're yelling at you.
What's uh what's your message to the overall left leftists who want to be violent in America today?
kristi noem
You know, please.
unidentified
Oh, wait.
Or we'll put you in jail.
jesse watters
If you thought the street crew was angry, wait until you see who's inside.
A couple of detained hombre stared down Gnome from their cell.
Sorry, boys.
Chrissy doesn't have any marks for you.
Just a one-way ticket to Brazil.
Careful, if you keep mean mugging her, you might end up in Uganda.
Then Gnome went to City Hall.
They weren't happy either.
unidentified
You cannot.
kristi noem
We can't?
All right.
Thank you.
unidentified
Interesting.
That's what Governor Fritzker says is cooperation and keeping people safe.
benny johnson
You know, we love doing these things.
You know, we were just kind of like just along for the ride with Christy Gnome.
Again, we did go on ice raids.
We did arrest people.
I didn't do it, but the agents who have the federal authority to do it, they arrested criminal aliens.
Uh, there were like so many there.
It was they didn't even need to try hard.
Uh we pulled into Walmart parking lot, and half the parking lot goes and jumps the fence.
That's a matter of, I'm not making a joke.
That's like a matter of fact.
That's what happened.
And then, like, 10 or more cars just speed off, right?
At full blast, like burning rubber, filled with criminal aliens.
They're just everywhere in Chicago.
Like, what would happen to Chicago if they actually deported all of them?
Well, we went through a brand new facility.
Very interesting.
Here's what it looks like.
Christy Gnome, instead of being intimidated by this, is going to double and triple down and supercharge the deportations in Chicago.
Of course, we all know why Chicago Democrats want the criminal aliens there.
They need the criminal votes, of course, to keep winning Illinois.
If they didn't have the criminal aliens, would they would Trump win Illinois in his 18 electoral votes?
Of course he would.
And Democrats would never win again.
So they have to keep packing criminal aliens into Chicago.
And the Trump administration's response is why not buy this massive warehouse.
We went through this warehouse with Christy Gnome and turned this into the new Alligator Alcatraz.
Now, we've been to Alligator Alcatraz as well.
It was great.
But you can't call this alligator Alcatraz, you have to call it something else.
And we tried to workshop this with Christy Gnome, and I was given an order to try and come up with something.
And here's what we came up with.
The Deep Dish Deportation Depot.
You were right, Klein.
I'm gonna call that clip.
Yep, you're right.
And, you know, I posted that and it got some pickup.
Sent it around.
DHS really loves it.
Deep dish deportation depot.
The alliteration, obviously, is just too easy.
Alligator Alcatraz just rolls off the tongue.
Same thing here.
And so I think that this was a win.
And then I saw this local news report, and then I knew it was a win.
Boy.
Wow.
Let me give you a praise report.
I I'm howling with laughter seeing this.
Here we go.
unidentified
More new video here at the live desk.
This is from the conservative podcaster Benny Johnson.
He, alongside DHS Secretary Christy Gnome, toured a building here in the Chicago area that will reportedly soon house undocumented migrants with the nickname Deep Dish Deportation Center already circulating.
Now don't ever let them tell you.
benny johnson
Don't ever let them tell you.
Don't ever let them tell you that you can't contribute a note to this great symphony of a land that we live in.
We have Nick Sotor who'll be joining us in uh just a minute.
Christy Gnome sounded off on Nick Sotor, of course, this same day.
Nick was still in prison at this time.
Nick was arrested by the Portland police for simply defending himself against a violent Antifa attack.
And Chrissy Gnome has now promised that in Nick's honor, she's gonna send in the Department of War into Portland.
Here we go.
We've seen a lot of attacks in Portland, a lot of news right now with various independent journalists that have been beat, that have been hit in the face, that have been locked up and arrested.
Uh what's going on there?
Uh, can you give us any status update?
kristi noem
Well, you've got a presence in Portland that as that is Antifa affiliated.
And so that is a uh situation where you have known professionals targeted violence that want to tear down America and well apparently attack anyone, even journalists, they're just trying to report the truth of what's happening on the streets.
So we're not just gonna be rolling out of Chicago here, but we're sending in the Department of War uh at the request that I made to um Secretary Hages at they're gonna be rolling in here within the next 24 hours.
They'll be coming to Chicago too.
I put a request in today for them to come to Chicago.
And we're going to not only have our officers that are out there with HSI and Ice, but we're also gonna have backup from our military because everybody deserves that.
And so what we saw happen to that journalist last night uh will not happen again.
We will not allow that to happen again where those individuals are persecuted for trying to show what's happening on our streets and for uh what they're doing to our law enforcement officers.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live right now, the man who we were talking about in that clip, Nick Sutor, who is I think live from Portland.
unidentified
Let's check.
benny johnson
you you Hey Nick, what up, G, how are you?
nick sortor
Um I'm doing, Benny.
I'm doing.
I am live in Portland, actually, just not outside the ice facility this time, because unless I have a uh a security detail while I do these live hits, I uh I mean at this point I I you know I I'm putting myself in serious danger by doing hits outside the ice facility.
benny johnson
Yeah, bro, like the night before you were arrested, and I want to talk about that, but you were doing a live hit with Laura Ingram, and they kept attacking you during that live hit.
I think you were attacked also, perhaps, like last night.
Uh, and I texted you and I was like, yeah, like I was with Christy Noam, and I was I was telling her that they're gonna try they you know they want to kill more.
And you gotta have security just to exist out in the street, man.
Um crazy.
I'm like, the States of America.
I'm really thankful that you're alive.
I mean, I really am.
nick sortor
Yeah, and I appreciate that, Benny.
But uh I I it's it's it's wild to me that just existing out here as a conservative is uh an act of violence in their minds for some reason.
Uh I mean, multiple times yesterday they they told me they were gonna Charlie Kirk me and uh which is uh just a ridiculous thing to say to somebody.
Uh they they uh threatened uh you know I get intel sent to me about like when threats are made online, uh specific threats from uh credible threats from people in the area.
And uh, you know, you get uh people saying that they're going to uh you know throw concrete milkshakes at me, which are uh that's what did uh uh gave Andy Noah a brain bleed.
I mean, these these people are incredibly violent.
And you know, you're you're seeing all this rhetoric from the left that's pushing them on.
It's egging them on.
That's why this keeps happening.
You're not seeing did a single democrat come out and condemn uh the the attack on Katie Davis court or you know, my arrest or uh or hell, even my uh uh me being assaulted last night.
I don't know if you've seen that video, but I think we have not a good look.
benny johnson
I think we have it.
Let's pop it up, boys.
Is this the one, Nick?
Yeah, this is from last night.
And here's this is uh you with the American flag, and it looks like someone's trying to grab you or throw you.
nick sortor
Yeah, they they took the American flag there from me, and I I ran back and got it.
I was not gonna let that flag go.
That's the same flag that I I saved from being burned in the street uh the other day.
So the point uh what I was doing.
benny johnson
The balls on you, man, but like I'm worried.
You know, this is the same city that they executed a Trump supporter in in 2020.
People have forgotten about that story, but they like executed this guy because he was wearing a MAGA hat.
And uh and that the these people they're not only they godless demons, but they have nothing to lose.
And so boy, I'm just glad to see that it looks like you have a little security now, or at least some people at your back.
nick sortor
Yeah, but I mean the the the Portland police are in uh they're not they're not particularly useful, they don't uh intervene until actually they never intervene, they come later and arrest in this case a uh a guy that as name is Tommy, who uh in that video, some Antifa thug was running after me with bear spray and he KO'd him in the street.
Uh he's defending me, and um none of the people that attacked me in this video were arrested, but the guy that defended me, he was wearing a MAGA hat.
Uh he like I mean, knocked the dude out cold that was chasing after me.
He got arrested, uh, which is not surprising at this point.
I mean, they there's very, very little accountability no accountability for these Antifa terrorists.
benny johnson
For everyone who was following, obviously, it was the number one trending story in the world.
The uh president was uh briefed on it, the attorney general.
I actually saw her this weekend.
Um, she was very concerned about what happened to you.
Chrissy Gnome was incredibly concerned, her entire team was her teeth, her team was telling me that they were considering dispatching ice to the prison that you were held at because they were worried for your well-being because you could be imprisoned with a bunch of people that wanted you dead, and you'd be just locked in a cell with them.
Something terrible could happen to you.
Um maybe you could just break down like what occurred uh with this arrest and then what the reaction has been.
nick sortor
Yeah, uh, so I I was um uh basically my crime was uh filming in public, uh, which you know is a capital crime out here in Portland.
So uh and the there's actually a video that I uh I've I've gotten that's from a third party that shows it's this one right here that shows me I I'm literally attempting to walk to my car.
That's where I'm going down the sidewalk here, and this thug pushes me, tries to restrict my movement, uh, and then throws a punch at me.
And so I I and then I end up in this hole right here.
And somehow I'm the aggressor, I'm the aggressor, and I'm the one that ends up getting arrested while the assailant just walks free.
The assailant was never arrested, and of course, and I'm telling you this here for the first time, uh, that we have identified the person, and uh, of course, it is trans.
I mean, big shock.
Um wow.
Uh it's just uh you know the trans violence.
You think it's a big problem in other parts of the country, it's especially a problem in Portland because half the freaking population decided that they're trans.
Uh at least the uh the the leftist population, anyway.
benny johnson
So they go and rat you out to the cops, the cops go arrest you.
nick sortor
So I don't know how that actually happened.
When they were doing when they were putting me in handcuffs at this point, I was so shocked that I was being put in handcuffs.
There were two things that went through my mind.
It's either A, they're like they're handcuffing me so that I can uh or so that they can get me out of there or something because it was getting too too hot, and they knew something, so they're acting like they were arresting me to like bring me down the block or something, or B, it was a total mistake, uh case of mistaken identity.
I mean, at no point in the first like five or six minutes did I believe I was actually being arrested.
benny johnson
I did see this happen with Pesobic one time, where the police like technically took him to get him away from Antifa.
This happened in Washington, DC.
It's pretty famous, you know, famous photo.
And um, and so that's what I you know, that's what I when I saw this clip.
I assumed that was happening to you, right?
Where the police were just simply surrounding you in order to say, let's uh, you know, let's let's depressurize the situation.
But that's not what happened.
They arrested you, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
So and then what do they they they charged you with a misdemeanor?
nick sortor
Yeah, they charged me with disorderly conduct because apparently my filming is much more disorderly than the screaming in the streets at three o'clock in the morning.
But the sock in traffic.
benny johnson
Put the clip up again.
Put the clip up again of of what they did to Nick.
Because not only are they not only are they swinging on you, Nick.
Like they're trying to obstruct people who are filming.
This was a planned attack.
They were trying to obstruct.
You can see the umbrellas.
The black umbrellas are trying to like what they're trying to do.
This is a coordinated attack to try and like kill or harm Nick, where they surround you with black umbrellas, and then they commit a violent act where no one can film it.
That's how these people work.
Is that what they were doing to you, Nick?
nick sortor
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, the umbrellas were everywhere uh this particular night.
You can see it just that uh just the time that that punch was thrown, that umbrella almost covered the lens.
It just didn't fully cover the lens, but that was the entire goal.
Okay, cover cover the camera lens and and throw the punch, and hopefully nobody sees it.
Uh, however, that's that's not the case.
You can clearly see the punch, luckily.
And then you can also see they use these umbrellas as weapons too.
benny johnson
Right.
nick sortor
They use, I mean, they stab you with it, and that's that's how I ended up in the hole.
benny johnson
You can see right there, clear as day, somebody like multiple people with black umbrellas pushing and barraging you and then attempting, you know, attempting uh obviously attempting physical assault.
And then if you you know, if you had been knocked out, Lord knows what else could have happened.
Uh this is like this is like a clear-cut case of self-defense, but not only that, of you actually trying to flee the situation uh in order to de-escalate.
You're clear you are clearly the person attempting to de-escalate the situation, you are not behaving a criminally at all, Nick.
nick sortor
Yeah, and uh and and you know, I I have court today at uh 2 p.m. Pacific time.
benny johnson
Goodness.
nick sortor
Uh I I believe that there's gonna be a uh a lot of uh detractors there.
Uh, but you know, we'll have some supporters there for sure.
I mean, these people don't have jobs, Benny, so they can you know be dispatched to to the courthouse to yell at me on the way in.
I expect that.
Um, but any DA that is not even uh, you know, is at least a little bit just a smidge objective, is it would be able to look at this video and be like, oh, this is total BS.
benny johnson
Yes.
nick sortor
But I don't think that's gonna happen here in Portland.
I I believe that they're going to carry the charge through because they don't want to look like they're uh, you know, the the that they they want to make sure the conservative guy is is going to actually uh you know have to spend a shit ton of money and uh and have to be burdened by coming back to court every you know couple of months out here in Portland.
I mean that they're gonna try to make it hell for me if they can.
benny johnson
Do you have a GoFundMe set up?
Do you have anything that we can no?
nick sortor
Because I I typically don't do that because I don't want people to think that that this is some sort of uh uh uh a grift.
I do this on my own.
I do this uh I do this to cover the news on the ground.
I don't do this for money.
Uh so it's uh so no, I didn't I didn't do any of that.
benny johnson
I think I'm going to set up one whether you like it or not.
Um and I might set up one just to cover security expenses for independent creators.
Uh frankly, I think.
I think that would that would be an idea.
I'm kind of sick of Republican billionaires.
Like I'm kind of sick of Republican billionaires like going in and like funding like another stupid white paper that'll do absolutely nothing, or some parasitic, like dumb jackass in in Washington, DC that's just trying to grift.
And the people that are out changing culture, like can't even do it with like a security detail, and those aren't that you know, those don't have to be expensive.
There's a lot of people that'll like cut their rates, frankly, just to like defend uh freedom and freedom of speech.
Yeah, and I'd really like to like work on that.
nick sortor
Um that's actually a really good idea, Benny.
I'd uh you know, just have a general fund for it.
That'd be that that'd be awesome.
Because I mean I I think that part of the part of the idea of what they're doing out here is uh, you know, they they they're doing these things that to to people like me, uh, knowing that other people are going to be scared off from doing the same thing.
benny johnson
That's right.
nick sortor
That's part of the point.
It's there's error.
benny johnson
And they would never touch you if you had like an actual guard with you because these people are all total cowards, And they would never ever want to, you know, receive a punch in return or you know get pushback.
But also these security guards, I mean, so what they want here is they want some type of they would like some type of terrible tragedy, right?
They'd like some some type of like awful thing to happen, God forbid.
And these security, these professional security guards are trained in de-escalation.
And so they just like I want you to be able to like do your job without getting hurt, and for them to be de-escalated, like the what they want is for you to be, you know, like maimed or worse on the sidewalk, and then something bad happened to one of them, who knows?
And and then they can make it a national news story and like champion it, right?
As right wing violence.
That's what they want.
So I think that'd be really wise, actually, to do that.
I'm gonna work on that today.
See if we can't start a fund, get some donors in and just get like to get to some key creators, like some some security um to make sure that you can go do your job.
nick sortor
I love it, Benny.
That's a damn good idea.
benny johnson
Okay.
Uh well, I know you have a court date today.
Um, it looks like the Trump administration has your total back.
I know this is a fact, actually, because I was riding around with Christy Noam and she asked like 15 questions about you, and everyone was like dead, like was very, very laser focused on making sure that you were taken care of.
Um, and even President Trump reached out to you.
It's an amazing story.
nick sortor
Yeah, I mean, I I was uh just very honored by the outpouring of support.
Uh it it gave uh a lot of um, I guess, fuel to continue down this road.
I mean, clearly we were over target here, uh, exposing what's going on in Portland, or else the police wouldn't have gone out of their way to arrest me.
I don't know what they thought this was going to accomplish for them.
Um, I guess they just wanted to, you know, if somebody gets arrested, they typically they'd be like super frazzled and go home, right?
Uh definitely not gonna do that.
I actually extended my stay here by uh a week uh due to the arrest.
So that whole thing backfired tremendously.
But you know, one of the first things I got was a phone call from Christy, or not Christie, uh uh Attorney General Bondy when I got out of uh jail.
And I I really appreciated that.
She took a long time out of her day to uh she called me on her cell phone uh and you know, told me to reach out if I need anything at all from uh from this case, and you know, then gave me the news on the phone that uh that they were that she was ordering Harmeat Dylan, who was a freaking badass, Benny, to go after uh and investigate the Portland police bureau, which is corrupt and and rotted from the inside out.
And uh, and and she got on it immediately as you know, you guys are are are showing right now.
So not not just for me though, which is uh great, because I don't want this whole thing to be about me.
It's also about Katie Davis Court, who is uh who got you know beat with a pole in the middle of the street, and police just let the attacker walk away.
You know, they were hoping that just nobody would know about it, then nobody would hear about it.
And uh it's not worked out in their favor.
Let's just say that much.
benny johnson
So I want to just get your commentary on one thing because this is now nationalized this local issue.
It's very hard to do that, frankly, Nick.
It's very hard to take like these local.
It's easy to be like, I live in Florida, I don't care about Portland.
Who cares, right?
Like, let a burn.
But when, you know, you what you've done is you've expanded this to the national consciousness, and now they now people know about it and they're following it.
And there's something remarkable happened uh where there was a large group of patriots out the night after your arrest cheering for ice.
And I want to like, let's get some sound here.
unidentified
You wanna say they're like, you want it?
benny johnson
They're they're they're can you explain this?
Like, has there been like a bit of a sea change now that people understand and can see what's going on?
Like, what's happening here?
nick sortor
Uh dude, you should see the amount of patriots that have come out like after my arrest.
Uh they uh it's that there's a large group like this every night now.
Wow of of different people that are just filtering in with MAGA hacks on and clear.
So I'm standing up on the roof in this video.
I'm I'm right in the middle next to two operators on each side um because they were the freaking degen the leftist degenerates were throwing things at me as I was standing on the rooftop, uh, which was very Satisfying because they throw something at me and they immediately get you know showered with pepper balls, which is uh entertaining to watch to say the least.
But these guys came out here, they they saw me up on the roof, they started uh sort of cheering and and and chanting because you know I I had been brought in on the inside at this point, rather than uh being on the outside.
Ice made a a statement by bringing me in and putting me up on the roof that day.
We'll just say you you can understand how they feel about Portland police just based on the Portland police is right out of the frame on that side, so they knew everything that was going on.
But these guys uh they they they came, they brought energy with them, and they this video went super viral of these these young, a lot of them were uh were high schoolers coming out, and they were drowning out all the leftists that were in that area.
And every time that the leftists would start yelling something stupid through their megaphone uh, you know, at me on the roof, they would totally just drown them out with either chance of USA, USA, or Nick, Nick, Nick.
I mean, they were not taking the the leftist BS there, and eventually the megaphone people just gave up and shut up.
So we need more of this.
Like I want to see this every single night.
benny johnson
Amazing.
Amazing.
This is uh incredible work, Nick.
I thank God that you are safe.
We will work very hard to ensure that you s remain safe.
Maybe we'll make the uh you know, secure freedom fund and help support a conservative independent creator with security, so they can just go tell the truth.
I think that this is sort of like the this is where we are now, Nick.
And maybe it's time for Republican donor.
You know, the left wing, the way I look at it is the left wing, left-wing billionaires fund terrorist organizations to kill us.
So, like right-wing organization right wing billionaires should counter that, right?
By ensuring that there is protection.
And so uh perhaps perhaps that's where we can move now.
Well, Godspeed.
We'll be covering uh your trial.
Make sure that you or or your hearing.
Um, and let me know anything else I can do for you, Nick.
Uh obviously, this is Nick's account.
He has millions of followers.
Uh, he is one of the single most powerful and what's the right way to put this, Nick.
Uh pound for pound, post for post.
This is the most effective journalist in America, I would argue.
Uh, the way that he does his work and the way that he uh is breaking news, uh, there's there's really none better uh than Nick Sotor.
If you want to know what's actually happening on the ground and at the epicenter uh of the news cycle.
So please go follow Nick.
Pray for him.
Gotta speed man.
nick sortor
Thank you, Benny.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
*Pewds* you
benny johnson
Well, ladies and gentlemen, uh we have uh a very, very short clip here uh that we that I wanted to like frame up because what you're gonna see is us doing a little more campaigning.
Uh partner in crime for me, Scott Pressler.
Good dude.
He was on Fox News this morning talking about why I am going to New Jersey on Friday, and why maybe going to Virginia, and why we are going to be saving California.
Uh Scott Pressler is someone who has been fighting this fight to flip purple or blue states red.
He won in Pennsylvania.
You could argue that Scott Pressler won Pennsylvania for Donald Trump.
And here's Scott Pressler talking about New Jersey specifically and talking about why we are going there this week and what we are going to accomplish as we flip New Jersey from blue to red.
Let's go.
carley shimkus
For sure.
Since the last uh gubernatorial race, the GOP has added 167,000 voters in New Jersey, while Democrats have lost over 47,000.
You are a part of the reason that that is happening uh and getting voters to turn out for Republicans.
But when it comes to issues and politics on the ground, look at those numbers there.
Why is this happening?
scott presler
Let's be real.
Lockdown Phil Murphy is the reason why so many people are now joining the Republican Party.
And I have a message for the viewer at home.
If you want to ban offshore wind, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want to bring down property taxes, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want to bring down electricity prices, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want school choice, vote Jack Chatterelli.
This is your candidate.
carley shimkus
We had the effort to boost GOP voter turnout in key races and has been on the ground in New Jersey, and he joined me now.
Scott, thank you for joining us.
Okay, so uh the latest Fox News poll has Mikey Cheryl up by eight points.
You say that it's closer than that.
Is that right?
scott presler
Absolutely.
Anyone who says that Mikey cheating scandal Cheryl is up by eight right now, that is baloney.
Don't listen to the polls.
The only poll that matters is on Tuesday, November 4th, 2025, election day.
carley shimkus
What makes you think that it's tighter than eight points?
scott presler
From what we're seeing on the ground, this is a state that went double digits for Joe Biden and went within five percentage points for President Donald Trump.
And in Pase County, we are seeing the beautiful Hispanic community come over to the Republican Party in a way that we haven't seen before.
We are courting minority communities, and that's why Mikey Cheating Scandal Cheryl is so scary.
carley shimkus
Uh this is something that's helping Jack Chitterelli for sure.
Since the last gubernatorial race, the GOP has added 167,000 voters in New Jersey, while Democrats have lost over 47,000.
You are a part of the reason that that is happening uh in getting voters to turn out for Republicans.
But when it comes to issues and politics on the ground, look at those numbers there.
Why is this happening?
scott presler
Let's be real.
Lockdown Phil Murphy is the reason why so many people are now joining the Republican Party.
And I have a message for the viewer at home.
If you want to ban offshore wind, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want to bring down property taxes, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want to bring down electricity prices, vote Jack Chatterelli.
If you want school choice, vote Jack Chatterelli.
This is your candidate.
We are no longer gonna bow down to the Democrats in Trenton.
And this is time for the people in New Jersey to take back your state.
And I asked for your vote on Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 for Jack Chatterelli for governor.
carley shimkus
What are the issues that matter most to people that you're talking to?
Any any surprising issues that you're hearing about?
scott presler
It's the economy.
I hear so many people.
Scott, my property taxes are crushing my working class family.
I'm forced to look to move to Florida.
This election is gonna impact a lot of people, and uh it's gonna be the economy.
carley shimkus
Um okay, so why should voters outside of New Jersey care about this race?
Do you see this as a bellwether?
scott presler
It is.
Momentum begets momentum.
If people want to support President Trump, if they want to support his ability to save the house next year in 2026, we must win this year in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and New Jersey.
carley shimkus
So you see this race as one that's really crucial for the for the state of the country.
What if what if uh Mikey Sherrill does win?
What does that say about where we are politically, not just New Jersey, but in the country overall?
scott presler
I'm not gonna go into hypothetical.
I'm gonna go into 2021 was decided by 84,000 votes, 600,000 Republican state home, 250,000 New Jersey gun owners are not registered to vote.
You go to nj.gov.
The last day to register to vote is on October 14th, Charlie Kirk's birthday.
Honor Charlie Kirk by registering to vote, nj.gov.
You make a plan to vote on Tuesday, November 4th, 2025.
Game on.
carley shimkus
Well, I don't think many viewers are gonna be forgetting your message.
You sell it to say the least, Scott.
Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
We really appreciate it.
A lot going on.
You said it, the New Jersey race, the Virginia race, and races in Pennsylvania as well.
scott presler
Yes, I ask everyone in Pennsylvania, please vote no to retention to Democrat Justices Dockerty, Don Hugh and Wecht, and you will be able to replace them in 2027 with three more Republican Supreme Court justices.
Let's go.
carley shimkus
We thank you so much.
benny johnson
He's like AI.
But for flipping races from blue to red.
This is the first of many rallies that we will be doing with Jack Chadarelli.
Scott Pressler.
We'll be in Wildwood, New Jersey.
This will be the anniversary of President Trump's massive rally there.
It's going to be rowdy and fun.
The link is in the description If you'd like to join us, ladies and gentlemen, this is how we win.
Now, I don't know if you've been getting a lot of sleep.
I certainly have not.
We were in New York and we were in Chicago.
We got back really late.
And um, man, we've been on the road, and we will be on the road.
And my biggest miss when I'm on the road is my sleep.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Um, we have our next guest lined up.
And it, you know, these are the kind of interviews that it's just tough.
Because Joe Abraham's daughter was murdered by a criminal alien in Chicago.
Joe's from Chicago.
And um, man.
You just hate to see it.
We live in a sunken world, but you just you want to prevent it.
Whether it's Charlie Kirk or whether it's Katie Abram, who is Joe's daughter from Chicago, murdered by a criminal alien.
Joe joins the show live now.
unidentified
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
benny johnson
you you Joe, welcome to the program.
Um it's a just an absolute terrible tragedy.
Uh, and uh, you know, I have a feeling that this colors uh your opinion on ice enforcement in Chicago.
Can you give us your story?
joe abraham
Yeah, so I got a uh I got a call Sunday, uh January 19th, earlier this year, uh, from Urbana.
So it was actually Urbana, Illinois, where Katie was killed.
Um, so you get this call in the morning, and that your daughter's dead, right?
So I mean, you don't I mean you're just kind of melting down, and so I hung up.
I I just couldn't.
So we I had to gather myself and call the detectives back to get really the understanding of what's what happened, right?
So I I do have to say when they said basically it was a someone driving under the influence, striking Katie's car.
She was a passenger in a vehicle in Urbana visiting friends at University of Illinois.
They were at a stoplight.
The SUV barreled uh into them from the rear at 78 miles an hour.
Katie died on the scene.
Um the driver nowhere to be found.
So the first thing in my head was that, oh boy, I've heard so much about this.
He's got to be an illegal.
So I asked this person illegal.
He said, Is he headed to the border?
Are we gonna do something about this?
And they just weren't sure.
I couldn't get a whole lot of information, but it did turn out uh they did catch up.
He went from Urbana to Chicago, Chicago.
I think they got him in Milford, Texas.
Um, so they did apprehend him in in Texas while he was trying to.
So here's a guy that hit Katie was a passenger in the vehicle.
They were just out of stoplight in the streets of Illinois.
That's all it was.
And they get rear-ended at 78 miles an hour.
Katie dies on the scene.
Another woman died the next day at the hospital.
Another one had grave bodily injury.
The first thing this person did was not call 911, not try to render any aid, not try to hang around and help first responders understand what happened.
His first instinct was turn tail and run.
So it frustrates me that these are the folks that uh our governor and our politicians.
And let's face it, we're we're one party state.
So I just want to talk to the one party that's running the state.
I got zero silence was so deafening by our leaders here that it frustrates you a little bit.
I just want to understand what we're doing.
You've sort of invalidated some federal laws, right?
You said I'm a sanctuary city, I or state, just come here.
And you know, we'll we're they're conflating everybody, right?
Citizens are the same as criminal illegals, illegals, legal, we're all the same.
We're just residents, is what the governor tells us.
So are you just winging this?
So you have you've invalidated federal law, you've opened up your state to anybody and everybody who can come here and reside without any type of assimilation or integration or kind of teaching folks this is how things work here.
And on the contrary, they're rewarded, right?
So you think about the the money going to some of these folks, right?
And and our tax dollars.
It's frustrating, and I lose sleep too, Benny.
That my tax dollars went to help Katie's killer.
Does that do you you see what I'm saying?
It's so difficult.
And I got zero explanation about what's happening.
If they're just winging this open border thing, is there a front-end audit process?
Is it that uh uh uh embarrassing?
Is it that shameful to have a front-end audit process?
Because Governor Pritzker says, Oh, no, we're gonna throw the book at him.
He did something wrong, he's gonna be adjudicated in Illinois, which Katie lost 50 or 60 years of her life, she's only 20 years old.
This guy, if you think about it, all they're gonna get him for is for this from the state perspective is drunk driving, maybe 10, 15 years tops.
So he will see the light of day again.
Katie has a death sentence, no due process, nothing.
All she was was someone in the streets of Illinois minding her business, doing her thing, passenger in a car, is dead.
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That's where I'm at.
benny johnson
It's really gut-wrenching the fleeing the scene.
This happens a lot.
And the reason happens is because these people don't care about Americans, they're not Americans, they're guatemalans or Haitians or whatever, and they don't care.
We don't matter to them.
Our lives, our our rules, our laws, none of it matters to them.
Their first act was to criminally enter our nation and to defy our laws.
And so if they kill an American, it doesn't matter to them because they're not one of us.
And that means that actually they might get deported or something bad may happen to them.
Uh and so it's like something it's it's something fundamentally different.
You're exactly right.
You know, Americans get in car wrecks all the time, sometimes bad things happen.
It's it's a tragedy, it's terrible.
You don't see another American or another Chicagoan or somebody that you grew up with in your neighborhood.
Like if they hit a car, like you don't you don't often see people fleeing the scenes.
Okay, you let the insurance work it out, you let the cops work it out.
But you see this all the time, where a criminal and it happened up the road, Joe.
We're like uh say, you know, a similar situation, drunk off their ass, criminal alien, slams into a car, kills a mother and a baby here in Florida, and flees the scene, runs away after murdering an American.
Like it's it's it's the it's demonic indifference.
Uh and it it is very fundamentally scary.
I'm so sorry that happened to you.
joe abraham
Yeah, it it it's it's when you say gut wrenching, that's 100%.
I mean, just imagine as a parent, your child is gone, right?
I'll never hold Katie, I'll never see that infectious smile of hers, her sense of humor, her wit.
She was like, as even as a child, you could put her in any situation socially.
She was one of these kids that made everyone feel seen.
If there was a child that was struggling to sort of fit in, she would reach out, she would pull them in.
I mean, I I used to hear the teachers at at our school, uh at her schools talk about these things.
So to me, and again, I was never a political guy.
I I I you know, I'm not some politician, I'm not a pundit, I'm not like some journalist.
I was a guy who put his head down, went to work, tried to raise a family, and honestly, Benny, we have some type of a social agreement, do we not, with our state?
I do all the right things.
I'm law abiding, I'm productive, I pay the gouging taxes they put on me.
And all the right things I've done, what what do I get it back?
That my daughter can't be on a street of Illinois.
Is that what that's the deal?
And and now that after the fact, because we don't have any kind of a front-end audit process, this guy would have easily been filtered out.
He was using an alias, he's a Guatemala national, he was using an alias, Mexican alias.
He was already previously deported, and I'm not sitting here and saying, don't let anyone into the country.
We're our family of immigrants.
So, but with that, there's nothing wrong with doing an orderly right and wrong way of pulling people in here.
This is not the right way.
There's no leadership here, as far as I'm concerned.
And I look at what's happening with the ice facilities, I look at what happened um between J.B. Pritzker and and and Donald Trump, and I I just I can't believe it.
This is the leader of a state.
So to go back to that, it's not good enough to say we have open borders, we're winging it, it's uh it's a free-for-all, and if something happens wrong, we'll get justice.
I that doesn't work for me.
I've got a life sentence now.
I have to live the rest of my life without my baby girl, the rest of my life.
So, in the wake of this game that he that that our leadership's playing here now, because I look, he's trying to reach some peak.
I don't know what that peak is.
It's certainly not the governor of Illinois, but you're leaving bodies and and and the damage uh the wake that you're leaving, the damage that is left behind is not acceptable.
It is just simply not okay that I have to live the rest of my life after doing everything right, three productive kids, family, that I have to now sit here and say, well, it's okay because you know, Illinois's gonna adjudicate this guy on the back end when he could have easily been filtered out in the front end.
You can still bring in 600,000 people, whatever you want, do it the right way, and then on top of that, you you you you mismanage the state so severely that you've got hundreds of thousands over the last 10 years of citizens leaving the state, refugees of Illinois refugees, and I may become one.
I may become a Illinois refugee, the only state I've ever lived in.
But so you've you've mismanaged it so thoroughly that the only people you're gonna bring in here are just unaudited, unchecked, unvetted, folks from all over the place, really.
I think one region, but that's not okay.
You've got to show some leadership here, and you can't cry about oh, the federal uh do your job and secure the border.
You've already drawn people in by saying I'm sanctuary, right?
So at the very least, I would think I thought that you would have some type of a process on the front front end to audit these folks.
I was waiting when I was at Congress in back in June to talk to the Democratic leaders that run the state and the and the and the governor.
And look, I'm not looking for, hey, I'm sorry your daughter was killed, because it's not real.
It's not true.
But what I was looking for is to say, hey, we did have a process, he slipped through.
Or I'm looking to say is, hey, we did, things got out of hand, but we're gonna we're gonna settle in, we're gonna fix it.
Joe, here's the process that we're gonna have so your daughter doesn't die in vain.
She's just collateral damage now.
So when I was in Congress and not one person approached me, my Congresswoman Jan Tchikowski walked by me half a dozen times without even looking at me.
Governor Pritzker didn't even look my direction.
So that's when the switch went on as a non-political guy.
Oh, wait a minute.
They don't really care.
This is the uncompassion party.
I can't believe what's going on here.
And that's when I decided, okay, I'm gonna start talking to anybody that wants to listen because this is not okay.
And no one, uh Benny, no parent should have to go through this.
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What we're going through today.
benny johnson
Ah, Joe, like our heart breaks for you.
I got kids, man.
And it's just it's just so like a it's just living a nightmare.
And then to think that it could be prevented.
I mean, listen, we live in a sunken world, but somebody passed a law um to make this illegal, and nobody cared.
They just let Guatemalans in with Mexican uh aliases, gave them driver's license, gave them welfare, broke every rule.
Like we actually had rules to prevent this.
Yes, and they defied those rules, and now your daughter's dead because of it.
And so somebody did make a choice.
That choice was partly made by uh the Biden administration, but since you live in Illinois, it was very much made by JB Pritzker.
And so I want to give you an opportunity to address him now.
Let's say that you had walked up to him on the floor of the legislature chamber, or uh perhaps you just want to clip on social media.
I want to give you an opportunity to sound off.
Jamie Pritzker has commented on a lot of our posts before, so maybe he'll see this one.
What's your message to Illinois Governor Jamie Prisker?
joe abraham
I so I've got a lot of messages, right?
One would be, you know, I I don't understand as a as a lifelong Illinois and my daughter the same way.
I was completely ignored, and I was sitting 10 feet away from you in Congress and completely ignored.
What I want to hear now is not that there's nothing you can do or that Donald Trump is a cause of everything.
There has to be some middle ground, right?
You need to reach out as well as a leader of Illinois.
It's not good enough to say Donald Trump's a president, and whatever he agrees to, I will go the other way.
I want something done in this state that at the very least puts a front-end audit process on who you're bringing into the state.
And just because you need congressional apportionment, doesn't mean that it should be a wild west free-for-all.
Do it the proper orderly way.
That's what I want to hear about it.
So again, I don't know where they're coming from.
No one would talk to me about this.
So that's what I would want from him.
Otherwise, you know, I'm not sure what we're doing here.
I'm not sure what my life has come down to that.
I've feel like I've done all the right things, and I'm lost my daughter.
And and the mind playing such tricks on you with the dog.
Every night I go to sleep, and I don't know if I'll ever have another good night's sleep.
But I used to have these vivid dreams of me and Katie together.
And I would wake up for that second, and I would say, it's not real.
She's alive.
I'm gonna go to a room.
And then that second's like, oh, she's actually gone.
And then I had this one dream, Benny, that she came to me, hugged me, kissed me, and said she's okay.
I've never had a vivid dream since then.
I am struggling to constantly think of my daughter, her laugh, her smile, her hugs, her kisses.
It's it's it's so gun cart wrenching.
And and and these politicians in Illinois created an environment that allowed this to happen.
And they totally what is my recourse at this point?
I did everything right.
What is my recourse?
That they found this guy, and he's gonna get, I don't know, 10, 15 years because of Katie.
Uh that doesn't work for me.
And then if you're thinking you want policies, oh, we're the compassionate people, we want to take care of you know, every immigrant.
Here's the thing: your policies have done the complete opposite.
So enough with the talk.
Look at the deeds.
Your policies have created an environment now that the majority of Americans are suspect when it comes to immigration.
I'm not okay with that.
I'm a family of immigrants.
What you've done in Illinois is the opposite of what you think you were gonna do.
But now I just think it's just all about their own power.
Everyone else be damned.
I I don't know how I don't know how else to think about it now.
benny johnson
And very quickly, Joe, your Message to President Trump as he's faced in perhaps DHS and ICE agents as they're facing some major backlash in Chicago from radical leftists who are constantly attacking them.
joe abraham
It's so Benny, I had the pleasure actually of going down to Chicago and addressing some of the ICE and DHS folks, the agents, the support staffs.
It was a great turnout.
I was humbled.
I was honored.
I my message to them would have been the same as as Donald Trump.
You need you are doing the good work of cleaning up on the back end, which is so much more difficult than than doing the right things on the front end.
Keep it up.
You have people that are behind you.
There's a small minority that gets after you.
And that's unfortunate.
And you don't get political help in this state.
And that's unfortunate as well.
But I would say to Donald Trump, and I and just like I said to these agents that that keep up the good work because things like Katie should not happen ever.
We should be better than that.
And there should be no shame in auditing folks that are here.
So you know, it's it's it's a frustrating thing to watch.
We did meet with Donald Trump.
We we were part of that big beautiful bill because we saw that there were some border security funding, and he did look me in the eye, and he said we're gonna get things cleaned up.
And I told him, please, you're gonna get pushback.
Do anything you can and keep it going, stay the course because Katie shouldn't die in vain like this.
And I've got nothing back from Illinois politicians, none, none.
And the ones that do speak out, Brad Schneider, who's a congressman, just here borders my district, was on CNN one day.
They asked him about the whole Operation Midway uh blitz, uh honoring Katie.
Uh uh, he didn't know anything about it.
I don't know anything about it.
Uh anyway, here's the drunk driving, because it is a drunk driving thing as well.
There's no deterrence for drunk driving as far as I'm concerned.
I like to see that change.
But he was saying, oh, you know, I don't know anything about that.
Meanwhile, oh, I've been fighting for years and years about drunk driving and getting well.
Couple things.
If you don't know anything about it, you're incompetent.
The other thing is if you're fighting like all these politicians, I'm fighting for this, fighting for that, and nothing has changed.
It's time for you to move aside.
Get out of the way, have some honor and decency, get out of the way.
You fought too much because whatever you're fighting is not working.
It's not good enough to say I'm fighting.
I don't even know what that means.
If you're fighting and getting nothing done, have some dignity and honor and get out of the way and let someone else come in and see if they can make change.
benny johnson
I want to be perhaps the first, certainly not the last, to invite you to move to Florida.
You know, bad things still happen here, sadly, but at least at the very least, you know that if there is an accident with the criminal alien, that criminal alien will face the death penalty.
There was a really bad semi-accident here with a uh criminal alien driving and people got killed.
And that I I hear from local law enforcement and from state law enforcement.
Um, it's the death, you know, it's it's it's gonna be the death penalty, uh, is is absolutely what they're going for.
Um you can't prevent bad things from happening, but like at the very least, you can live in a place where they're punished and punished severely uh uh in order to make sure that people know we don't do that here.
joe abraham
Agree.
There's there's I just don't think that in on the contrary, there's more reward than there is deterrence, at least here in Illinois.
Um think about the fact that he made a conscious choice to go out drinking, there was beer alcohol in the car.
So they made a conscious choice to go out.
They got you know killed a couple of folks, a couple of citizens, right?
They made a conscious effort to get go behind the wheel and do that, and then that's it.
Uh to your point, it should be the death.
You took two lives, you should never see the light of day.
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I I don't know why that's controversial.
benny johnson
No, it's not.
Come on down to Florida, dude.
Tampa's great.
Yeah, Tampa's fantastic.
That's where I am.
You should guys family friendly, it's beautiful, and it's like the just great families and public parks and everything like that.
And you know, nothing brings nothing brings Katie back, but at the very least, like we can at the very least, we can build a society where this doesn't happen anymore.
And you're part of that.
So I just want to say thank you, Joe.
A lot of people would retreat uh or were colo would collapse, and you're standing up strong for the memory of Katie, and so we we deeply honor that.
Uh, thank you for being on our program, Joe.
Um thank you, Ben.
No, Everybody, everybody please pray for Joe.
And um, and it it sounds like he's having he's taking what is bad, uh, what man intended for evil and turning it, you know, God intends for good sometimes.
And so he's turning that, uh, he's turning that around.
So God speed Joe, thank you.
joe abraham
Thanks, Benny.
Appreciate it.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
you Thank you.
benny johnson
Whew, man.
This it's tough.
You know, it's tough.
You just hate to see it, and you don't you know want it.
I got kids.
Anybody who has kids or anybody who even wants kids, like they can feel an interview like that.
Just rip your heart out.
Man, it's just it'll just rip your heart out.
Uh it it there's just no This is what we're fighting against, obviously.
This is what we're fighting against.
Big time prayers for uh Joe Abram.
Uh Abraham.
And um, man, we're just really sorry that you're going through that, bro.
Ladies and gentlemen, perfect perfect way to end our show here with first Peter 5 8, our verse of the day.
Be alert and of sober mind.
Goodness, who chose this verse?
Well, this is perfect.
This is prophetic.
Be alert and of sober mind, your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour, looking to steal, kill, and destroy.
What is the nature of Satan?
Steal, kill, destroy.
Who are the people you should like not be around?
You shouldn't vote for them.
You shouldn't want to be around them.
You shouldn't uh live in their neighborhoods, right?
People who wishes to kill, steal, and destroy your life.
Don't it is the nature of Satan, it does exist in this world, and you can see here clearly whether it's the lieutenant governor or sorry, the attorney general candidate for Democrats in Virginia, whether it's these Democrat terrorists all throughout Chicago and Illinois, or whether it's this criminal alien element that of course has uh extremely high crime rates against Americans and murder, they murder Americans and then and then flee.
You know, that is that is that is the work of Satan in this world.
That is the mark of Satan.
I say stealing, killing, and destroying.
Poor Joe.
Play it, say a prayer for Joe.
They stole the his daughter from him, they killed her, and they've they've really destroyed uh a good man.
God can build you back up, though.
The power of God, God is more powerful than Satan.
Fear God more fear God more than you fear Satan.
And you'll live a solid life.
Ladies and gentlemen, uh we as we head out today.
Just a reminder that the fight's not over.
We need to keep fighting on.
And most importantly, in the end, we win.
It's your boy Benny.
See ya.
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