Sept. 19, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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| All right, Jimmy Kimmel has been spotted for the first time since the show was pulled off the air indefinitely, and his fellow late-night hosts are giving their thoughts. | ||
| But tonight, we are all Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| People across the country are shocked by this blatant assault on the freedom of speech. | ||
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But to be honest with you all, I don't know what's going on. | |
| Uh, and no one does. | ||
| People are worried that we won't keep saying what we want to say, or that we'll be censored. | ||
| Are the are the naysayers and the critics right? | ||
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Is Donald Trump stifling free speech? | |
| Of course not, John. | ||
| Joining us now is Fox News Protibuter Joe Concha. | ||
| Joe, how many times do we have to say it? | ||
| Free speech applies to the government telling you what you can and can't say. | ||
| It does not apply to a private employer benching an employee because the headaches that employee brings to the table are no longer worth the the declining amount of money that that employee brings in. | ||
| Thank you, Todd. | ||
| Yes, this is not about free speech. | ||
| This is about the free market. | ||
| On free speech, Jimmy Kimmel isn't losing his ability to speak out and say whatever the heck he wants. | ||
| He could run the sub stack just like his friends Don Lemon, Jim Acosta, Joy Reid, Chuck Todd. | ||
| And then say whatever's on his mind there. | ||
| The difference is he's not gonna get paid fifteen, sixteen million dollars a year from Disney and ABC to do it. | ||
| I mean, it here's the thing. | ||
| This was a last straw moment for Disney, ABC, the affiliates next door in Sinclair. | ||
| This was such a disgusting lie about the shooter of a father and Charlie Kirk of two young children, a husband, the only son of a mom and dad. | ||
| Uh as for everyone on the other networks that are, you know, screaming about, hey, this is a chilling attack on free speech. | ||
| Uh, here's some questions for you people to chew on. | ||
| Was Kimmel losing millions for Disney and ABC? | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| Was Kimmel an absolute PR nightmare and horrible for the brand representing Disney and ABC? | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| And were the affiliates, Sinclair next door, finally fed up with Kimmel after he blatantly intentionally lied about Charlie Kirk shooter? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So from a business decision, this was a no-brainer. | ||
| Because in the end, what's the free market? | ||
| It's supply and demand, Todd and Carly. | ||
| The supply here is that Kimmel's in Kimmel's case, it it was patently toxic. | ||
| It was bad for the brand. | ||
| As for demand, it was only almost non-existent. | ||
| I mean, barely more than one million viewers a night. | ||
| He was easily doubled, sometimes tripled by our Greg Gutfeld. | ||
| So that's how you become an ex-late-night host. | ||
| It's not about free speech. | ||
| It's about the free market. | ||
| The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. | ||
| They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. | ||
| They should all know this. | ||
| If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. | ||
| You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. | ||
| In this world, you have no idea. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I want to tell you that we'll never surrender. | ||
| We never will. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| We will never surrender ever, ever, ever, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Today's a very special day. | ||
| We are live from inside of Turning Point USA headquarters in a studio that I have many memories in. | ||
| ALX and I were just reminiscing, actually, about how many memories we have in this building. | ||
| My voice is shot. | ||
| My throat is cracking right now. | ||
| And I got it. | ||
| We've been redlining for now a week. | ||
| And we've never been more encouraged. | ||
| Today is Friday, September 19th, 2025. | ||
| I just saw one of the most beautiful things that I've ever seen in my life walking into this place, this place that I have so many memories in for 10 years I've been entering this building. | ||
| Back before it was even owned by Turning Point USA. | ||
| Now they own the entire complex. | ||
| It's remarkable. | ||
| The growth has been incredible. | ||
| I was out here when Charlie was asking me to join Turning Point USA as the director of productions. | ||
| It must have been now, close to a decade ago. | ||
| And the building was split and it was being shared, and it's and now it's just magnificent. | ||
| And nothing is more magnificent than what I saw walking in. | ||
| I want to share that with you here. | ||
| This is the memorial to Charlie outside of the building that we are in right now. | ||
| The memorial stretches on forever and ever and ever and ever. | ||
| This video that I'm going to play you is one minute of me straight walking, and you'll see that for blocks and blocks and blocks, 20 feet deep, flowers, American flags, memories of Charlie, T-shirts, toys, trinkets, Bible verses, it's early out here We were up at 5 a.m. | ||
| ALX did not sleep. | ||
| The Alex was stuck on a runway all night, which came right here. | ||
| We did not sleep. | ||
| And there were already people outside of Turning Point USA here in Phoenix, Arizona, paying homage to Charlie Kirk. | ||
| This is at 6 a.m. this morning. | ||
| The profundity of it all. | ||
| This massive complex that Charlie built with his incredible team here. | ||
| It's remarkable. | ||
| You can see some of the size and scope of the buildings, all of those buildings owned by Turning Point USA. | ||
| A massive, most successful, fastest single growing, most powerful youth, political youth organization in the world, 68,000. | ||
| Is that the new number of chapters for Turning Point USA chapter request at 68,000? | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, bear with us today as we are going to be sort of having the wash of emotion and memories as we do it live on the program and in our own poor and humble way as we remember Charlie Kirk as we head into this weekend for Charlie Kirk's memorial ceremony that will take place on Sunday. | ||
| 60,000 people. | ||
| 60,000 plus. | ||
| I hear that it, I hear that it's capacity and then some inside of the stadium that the Arizona Cardinals play in every single Sunday, an NFL stadium. | ||
| The speakers will include President Trump, JD Vance, Stephen Miller, Pete Heggseth, a number of administration officials. | ||
| Yours truly. | ||
| It will also include Erica Kirk, who was just appointed as the CEO of Turning Point USA and chairman of the board as Charlie Wanted. | ||
| A beautiful, beautiful move yesterday that happened right after our show. | ||
| And so, ladies and gentlemen, we carry forward. | ||
| And as again, we are here in live inside of Turning Point Studios. | ||
| We have a lot to bring to you today and want to sort of use this as an opportunity to head into the memorial weekend for Charlie. | ||
| Um I know. | ||
| And what do we mean by that? | ||
| Well, you're truly dead when people forget your name. | ||
| You're truly gone when people forget your legacy. | ||
| Your tyrants are cut down all the time and no one remembers them. | ||
| People stomp on their graves. | ||
| But martyrs get more powerful in death. | ||
| We talked about it all week. | ||
| The story of Stephen. | ||
| And how God uses martyrdom in the gospels to advance his church and his kingdom. | ||
| And it's brought me great cold comfort this week that this is something that throughout history has advanced the same work that Charlie spent his entire life speaking about, that he wanted to be remembered for courage for his faith. | ||
| Again, I don't want to, I don't want to struggle too much through this because we've been spending all week sort of trying to live on camp. | ||
| You know, a lot of people get a chance to mourn in silence and process this stuff quietly. | ||
| And we're we have an obligation to be live every morning and to process this with you. | ||
| So forgive me if, as we're here in this building, and as I, you know, so many late nights with Charlie in this building, so many days and weeks and years building here in this exact studio that I'm sitting in right now. | ||
| So much content filmed with Charlie in this studio. | ||
| Forgive me if I don't just like process it one final time that the martyrdom of Stephen was what it created the Christian church. | ||
| The Christian church was about to be struck down. | ||
| It was about 200 believers, sequestered and scared, living in attics and in hiding in Jerusalem, not being bold, not speaking the truth, not heading out into the world in order to fight and advance the kingdom. | ||
| And the martyrdom of Stephen brought the church from 200 believers to 200,000 believers, a 4,000% increase and stretched Christianom to every corner of the known world. | ||
| That was the power of that martyrdom. | ||
| And so live with bravery and courage for my faith, as Charlie said it, time and time again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, what that means is if you wish to honor Charlie, you must fight. | ||
| You must continue the fight. | ||
| You must continue the work in culture and winning culture. | ||
| And trust me, that is all we ever spoke about here in this building is cultural victories. | ||
| You can have political victories, political victories come and go. | ||
| Cultural victories are lasting. | ||
| It is why the left is fighting so frothing at the mouth rabidly over this Jimmy Kimmel issue here, because we struck deep into the blackened heart of Hollywood, the diseased temples of Hollywood. | ||
| We plucked out a high priest of those diseased temples. | ||
| We proved that the left has no more cultural power, that they are unsafe even there in those sunken sanctuaries. | ||
| It was deep behind enemy lines. | ||
| It was a consequence. | ||
| They finally suffered for something they did. | ||
| Do you understand it? | ||
| You sneering New York Times op-ed writers. | ||
| You limp, wristd, limp dicked George W. Bush holdovers. | ||
| Hold your heads in shame. | ||
| You navel gazers sitting there picking the lint out all every morning, whimpering and whining, praying that Barack Obama will pat you on the head and the NBC will book you on their Sunday show. | ||
| Do you understand the importance of this moment? | ||
| We proved that the king has no clothes. | ||
| The man behind the curtain is nothing but a senile old kook. | ||
| There is no great and powerful wizard. | ||
| I don't want to yell, but I want to be excited for this moment. | ||
| It's Charlie, it's moment. | ||
| Charlie's moment. | ||
| We've used this opportunity to rip the curtain open and prove that they have no more cultural power. | ||
| They have no more institutional power. | ||
| They have no more regulatory power. | ||
| It's all a facade. | ||
| It's all projection. | ||
| It's they're done. | ||
| They're totally exposed. | ||
| And Jimmy Kimmel was the most powerful and arrogant and sneering, dismissive, snivelling, jackassery of them all. | ||
| And Jimmy Kimmel got ripped off air, got a consequence for what he said. | ||
| I am a reasonable man. | ||
| Here's how I deal with these things. | ||
| And you've seen me deal with ups and downs on this program. | ||
| One that comes to mind, and it is certainly not a one-to-one. | ||
| But Joe Biden got a terminal cancer diagnosis. | ||
| That is a death sentence when you have stage five cancer metastasize to the bone. | ||
| That is what every available medical professional says. | ||
| I don't like Joe Biden. | ||
| I think he wrecked the country. | ||
| I'm telling you, as much as the left dislikes Charlie Kirk, I probably dislike Joe Biden. | ||
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and then, Thank you. | |
| In a similar amount, the reasonable left, obviously, but let me show you the difference. | ||
| And you can go back and roll the tape. | ||
| We had we had editorial conversations about it with the entire staff. | ||
| What is the number one thing we're not going to do? | ||
| Wish harm on Joe Biden. | ||
| We will never wish ill on Joe Biden. | ||
| We will not victim blame Joe Biden. | ||
| We will not sit there and celebrate this old man's terminal cancer diagnosis. | ||
| We will pray for his family, and we will pray that whatever days God has numbered for him, that he lives them out. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That is exactly what we did. | ||
| You could check the tape. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| And then guess what we did? | ||
| Guess what we did then? | ||
| We say we said on the show, you Joe Biden. | ||
| Hope that the rest of your life is painless. | ||
| That is what we said. | ||
| And then we cut that up. | ||
| Boom, moved on to the rest of the show. | ||
| That's what we did. | ||
| Why is it that hard? | ||
| Why is it? | ||
| Why is it that difficult? | ||
| Why is it so impossible for Libs to do that to Charlie? | ||
| Have we asked that question? | ||
| Why is it so impossible for Libs to just say, you know what, Charlie? | ||
| We pray for your family. | ||
| What happened was abhorrent. | ||
| We hope that your children and your wife live in memory of you. | ||
| We are sending them prayers. | ||
| Why is that so? | ||
| And then you cut it off and then you just move on. | ||
| Then you do your stand-up bit and you talk about whatever, Oprah, Lizzo, whatever that, you know, whatever garbage you're gonna say. | ||
| Why is that impossible for the left? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| It's why we constantly frame this as a spiritual war. | ||
| There's no other explanation for it. | ||
| Why is it impossible for libs to just say, why was it impossible for Jimmy Kimmel to just do the decent thing? | ||
| Does Jimmy Kimmel dislike Charlie as much as I dislike Joe Biden? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So what's the difference there? | ||
| Well, I mean, basic human decency, a soul, a connection to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, probably that's the difference. | ||
| can't just wish him well. | ||
| Had to go on his program and victim blame MAGA had to go on his program and say that Charlie had it coming. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| When you read the exact words that Jimmy Kimmel said, he said the MAGA gang trying to capitalize on Charlie's murder. | ||
| Trying to score political points. | ||
| The MAGA gang trying to prove that the shooter was anything other than one of them. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| Sorry for yelling. | ||
| Just like being here, it like hits me. | ||
| That these are the kind of cultural battles that Charlie wanted us to fight. | ||
| These are kind of moments where the left, who is in a spiral, a sick and demonic spiral. | ||
| There's the only way you can explain it. | ||
| They are in a demonic spiral where there is no bottom. | ||
| The bottom is hell. | ||
| There is no bottom. | ||
| It's just going to get worse and worse and worse when there are no consequences. | ||
| This show has always been about peaceful debate and exchange. | ||
| Never in the history of the show have we ever called for harm or anything other than a full-throated sharing of ideas and commentary and debate. | ||
| The consequences that we seek are for there to be finally a line drawn in the sand. | ||
| That line that must be drawn in the sand is that there is a moral basement for civil society. | ||
| And you have crossed that line. | ||
| By desecrating and attempting to politicize and attempting to weaponize and lie about Charlie Kirk's political assassination. | ||
| Something that gave the world PTSD. | ||
| That is the line. | ||
| We are enforcing the bottom basement of social society decency. | ||
| That is what the show is doing. | ||
| We proved it. | ||
| I mean, we proved it. | ||
| Put up that New York Times chart. | ||
| The story from the New York Times is wild. | ||
| ALX help Klein get it if he needs to. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Look at this from the New York Times today. | ||
| We're going to read this together. | ||
| This is what I uh, this is what we've gotten so far. | ||
| We're going to read this uh New York Times piece together. | ||
| Would you look at this? | ||
| Calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. | ||
| This is what I mean when I say you must have tactics. | ||
| You must be tactical and strategic in how you operate. | ||
| It's not just about mean tweets. | ||
| Mean tweets won't ever just do it. | ||
| You must use soft power. | ||
| You must use the laws on the books. | ||
| And you must use cultural power in order to get the results that you want. | ||
| And what are the results I want? | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel was going to be ripped off air anyway. | ||
| Stephen Colbert already had his show canceled. | ||
| Stephen Colbert is a Frankenstein. | ||
| He's a he's a he's a dead man walking. | ||
| I always want to be careful with my words, metaphorically, meaning his show was already canceled, okay. | ||
| That's probably the correct way to put it. | ||
| He's a zombie show. | ||
| His show's done. | ||
| He's just serving out his contract. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel had far worse ratings than Stephen Colbert. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel was losing advertisers. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel's program wasn't wholesale collapse, and Jimmy Kimmel had already signaled in multiple interviews that this was going to be his last contract. | ||
| He told that to the Los Angeles Times. | ||
| So what you can see here on this chart is ALX just walked right through our shot. | ||
| ALX, very nimble individual. | ||
| I mean, ALX, if you're gonna walk right through the shot, you might as well just come on the program. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let's go full screen. | ||
| A Alex, come on in. | ||
| ALX with his turning point USA swag. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Say what's up. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Very rare, very rare, very rare Pokemon here of ALX and Betty in the same spot together doing the show. | ||
| I'm often in Tampa and he's in Massachusetts. | ||
| Actually, nice. | ||
| ALX in the studio, plugging in his laptop. | ||
| Walking through the shot. | ||
| So it goes in the old turning point studio. | ||
| Stephen Colbert has a zombie show. | ||
| It's already canceled. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel, by every weight and measure, had a far worse show, losing far more money, and was on the road to cancellation. | ||
| But in moments like this, it's not about canceling Jimmy Kimmel's show. | ||
| It's about enforcing standards. | ||
| I am fully in favor of everyone losing their jobs or getting kicked out of school who's mocking Charlie Kirk's death and celebrating it. | ||
| This is hopgoblin behavior. | ||
| A civil society, the basement of civil society standards should be no, you don't celebrate the political assassinations and murders of people. | ||
| Yes, when Joe Biden gets a terminal cancer diagnosis, you don't use that as an opportunity to dance on his grave. | ||
| Yes, we are trying to establish a moral society. | ||
| This is a country suited for good and moral people and those people alone. | ||
| You do not want to descend into nihilism. | ||
| That leads to secretarian violence. | ||
| That leads to civil war. | ||
| That leads to the full and total dehumanization of vast swaths of the country. | ||
| No, you do not want that. | ||
| And how do you get that? | ||
| Enforcing of standards. | ||
| You weak ass Republicans. | ||
| You snivelling New York Times op-ed writers. | ||
| You get it by enforcing the standard that is unacceptable and indefensible. | ||
| What Jimmy Kimmel said. | ||
| And it is. | ||
| We enforce those standards. | ||
| And we did so through rule of law. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is when we brought on Brendan Carr. | ||
| You can see here the push to have Jimmy Kimmel's show taken off air. | ||
| Effectively dead. | ||
| Effectively was completely collapsed. | ||
| This is what I tell people. | ||
| It's not enough to just do mean tweets. | ||
| You must actually build something. | ||
| You must actually be strategic. | ||
| It's not enough to do mean tweets. | ||
| Then FCC chairman appears on our show. | ||
| Would you look at that? | ||
| That's that little gray bar. | ||
| Well, would you look at what happens next? | ||
| What did that FCC chairman do? | ||
| All he did was say that ABC has a broadcast license through the FCC. | ||
| That is a very special license, non-applicable to Fox News or CNN or MSNBC or our streaming show. | ||
| That broadcast license says that you must broadcast in the public interest. | ||
| You must broadcast faithful and good information, true information. | ||
| What Jimmy Kimmel said was not in the public interest. | ||
| What Jimmy Kimmel said was incitement. | ||
| What Jimmy Kimmel said was when the next left-wing radicalized Trantifa terrorist takes out another MAGA. | ||
| Is it going to be me next time, Jimmy? | ||
| Who's next? | ||
| When they rob children of their father, when they orphan someone's children, when the next left-wing Trune widows someone's wife, steals another voice from the MAGA movement. | ||
| Charlie Cook would have been president. | ||
| I will never be present. | ||
| Stole a president from our nation. | ||
| That Jimmy Kimmel will Defend you. | ||
| That Jimmy Kimmel will whitewash that crime. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| It's encouraging of that. | ||
| That is not in the public interest. | ||
| So the FC chairman comes on our show and says, yeah, this is uh, this is clearly something that potentially deserves investigation. | ||
| That's all he did. | ||
| As far as I know, there's been zero regulatory action taken on Disney. | ||
| It was simply establishing that you can't do this. | ||
| What has been done here is indefensible. | ||
| And it's wrong. | ||
| And it's wrong based on the letter of the law. | ||
| ABC News could immediately give up their broadcast license if Jimmy Kimmel had a YouTube show. | ||
| There'd be no ground to stand on. | ||
| Sure, it sucks what he said, and I hate it. | ||
| But like, you know, the best you can do is, you know, bring public shame on them. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel uses taxpayer dollars, and more importantly, Jimmy Kimmel uses privately owned stations in order to broadcast this vile slander and defame Charlie and his legacy and our entire movement. | ||
| And then to bring further potential violence on our movement. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| That is patently illegal. | ||
| And so we have people from the DOJ on the show all the time talking about investigations. | ||
| Hey, we should investigate this. | ||
| Hey, we should investigate that. | ||
| Hey, yeah, maybe that's illegal. | ||
| We didn't talk about it. | ||
| This is what we this is what we do. | ||
| The left never feels that consequence. | ||
| They never feel accountability. | ||
| They never feel the consequences of their actions ever, ever. | ||
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They never feel the consequences of their actions ever. | |
| So I'm damn proud of it. | ||
| The same libs, we put this up, and man, it went in berserker mode. | ||
| Here's my take on this. | ||
| How about you enforce your own societal standards? | ||
| Before you ask us to feel sorry for Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| Same libs who canceled Roseanne, Dave Chappelle, Kill Tony, Tucker Carlson, who's in the building today, Megan Kelly, Shane Gillis, Gina Carano, Hulkan, Russell Brandt, Tim Addle, Tim Allen, J.K. Rowling, Kid Rock, many, many more. | ||
| Same libs that shot Trump and Charlie. | ||
| Now want us to weep for Jimmy Kimmel because he'll sit in a palace and be a multimillionaire for the rest of his life. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not going to do it. | ||
| Not going to do it. | ||
| Elon Musk shared this. | ||
| I'm proud of that. | ||
| Bang this one out from the from the plane with my uh eight-month-old baby sleeping in my lap. | ||
| We're not going to do it. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, a message to all the weak and feckless Republicans that constantly sneer and lecture and finger wag in these moments. | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| Could you imagine if this if the roles were reversed? | ||
| Yes, we can imagine if the roles are reversed. | ||
| Yes, my executive producer sitting right there, ALX, had his entire account deleted for nothing. | ||
| We have the emails. | ||
| It was directed by the federal government. | ||
| Like, unlike the Jimmy Kimmel thing, where it's just the FCC chairman coming on our show and talking about the law and interpreting the law. | ||
| They took zero regulatory action against Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| We have the documents that the federal government was targeting me specifically and Charlie. | ||
| Go pull those up. | ||
| Matt Tayabi send them to us. | ||
| They're in my DMs, ALX. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| I can talk to ALX like he's right here. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| And then and then for real accountability, we can actually pull them on stream. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Matt Tayabi, fantastic investigative reporter, sent me these bombshell documents that former CIA spooks were had me and Charlie with the full weight of the federal government colluding to ban me and Charlie. | ||
| He has the emails. | ||
| We'll put them up on screen. | ||
| You're going to sit there and bitch and cry and whimper and whinge and whine. | ||
| I'm talking to you, Republicans, Barry Weiss, David French, David Frum. | ||
| You weaklings. | ||
| You know, it's amazing, all these people, they're all lap dogs of the left. | ||
| All these people. | ||
| This is a lap dog. | ||
| They're all like sitting there, like, please love me, please love me, please pet me on the head. | ||
| Please, I'm gonna please give me CBS news. | ||
| Please give me give me a spot in the New York Times. | ||
| They're sitting there, sucking up to power. | ||
| Because they are good little doggies. | ||
| They never experience what we experience. | ||
| Because we actually move culture and fight. | ||
| There's constant overwhelming threat to everything we are doing. | ||
| Full deplatforming, Alex Jones, of course, is a great example of this. | ||
| I should have added Alex Jones to that list. | ||
| I don't know why I didn't. | ||
| I'm sorry, Alex. | ||
| I just read, I just read to you a list of every individual that has been deplatformed by the left. | ||
| Some of them have massive social media followings that have been either demonetized or taken offline entirely. | ||
| All of them had their careers destroyed. | ||
| Many of them are doing great now, thank God. | ||
| We actually know what government censorship looks like. | ||
| We actually feel it because we actually our work actually affects culture. | ||
| It is actually threatening to the power structures of the left. | ||
| That is why I call complete and total bullshit on every right winger that's sitting there wagging their fingers, clutching their soli lattes. | ||
| Could you imagine if it was reversed? | ||
| Yes, we can imagine if it was reversed. | ||
| A Alex, you got the asset, right? | ||
| Klein, put it up. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Would you look at this? | ||
| Hi, um, this is the feds. | ||
| And we're gonna bring Taebby on the show to talk through this. | ||
| This is Yoel Roth, Alex's best friend and roommate from former Twitter, targeting Charlie and Benny and using the CIA to do it. | ||
| Using former CIA spooks with their special Fed backdoor to target Charlie and Benny. | ||
| Let's make sure that we destroy them. | ||
| They were gonna, they were going to, they were actively pushing to rip Charlie and me off of Twitter. | ||
| Is this for Twitter or Facebook? | ||
| It's for Twitter. | ||
| I think the fate there's also a Facebook thread as well. | ||
| We're gonna bring on Tayabi. | ||
| We actually have the evidence right here of literal federal government collusion to silence our speech. | ||
| Because we actually had an effect on culture. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| The FCC director coming on and saying that ABC's broadcast license is going to be investigated because they are in clear violation of the law, is not the same as the federal government colluding with the platforms to rip down Charlie Kirk to come up with some excuse to rip Charlie's social media offline. | ||
| That's what that document proves. | ||
| That's actual government censorship. | ||
| Everyone has the memory of a goldfish. | ||
| I am disgusted. | ||
| I am disgusted. | ||
| I have no time, no quarter for the weaklings of the right now, who do not understand what time it is, and understand this. | ||
| How you get terminal radicalization, which is what we're seeing, which is what killed Charlie. | ||
| How you're getting terminal radicalization is a zero consequence culture. | ||
| The zero consequence culture of the left is that they can say anything, they can do anything. | ||
| It can be as repulsive and sickening, grotesque and immoral, degenerate, and there will be no consequences ever. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| There will never suffer a consequence. | ||
| And we are enforcing for the first time, maybe in my life. | ||
| I mean, other than an election, and we want to, of course, thank our president for even the opportunity for even just getting us to this place, right? | ||
| Where we can even feel a little bit of institutional and regulatory power here. | ||
| We can just feel that the tide has perhaps like shifted. | ||
| That's what so many of them weren't ever counting on. | ||
| They were never counting on the tide shifting. | ||
| Want to thank our president for getting us to this place. | ||
| If it wasn't President Trump literally sticking his neck out and being willing to die for this movement, which President Trump truly is the visionary on being willing to give his life for his country. | ||
| The man has proven it with every waking moment of the last 10 years, sacrificed everything for his country. | ||
| Were it not for President Trump stiffening our spines, we would not be here. | ||
| I want to thank one more important group here that is making this possible. | ||
| And I had a phone call yesterday. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you with who. | ||
| I should say a very, very powerful ABC News affiliate. | ||
| And the owners of those affiliates are now reaching out to me. | ||
| And what didn't you know this? | ||
| Oh, would you look at that? | ||
| Would you look at that? | ||
| The owners of these affiliates are telling me amazing things. | ||
| Oh, baby. | ||
| Wait till you hear what they're telling me. | ||
| I want to put up uh our thank you to Sinclair, please, and uh Nextstar. | ||
| These affiliates have reached out to me. | ||
| I've taken a never-ending stream of calls from the ABC News affiliates and broadcast affiliates writ large. | ||
| And those owners are telling me thank you. | ||
| We are the broadcast partners of ABC. | ||
| It is our right to take the broadcasts down if we do not believe it is in the public interest of our audience. | ||
| ABC isn't just some type of giant monolith that just broadcasts to all 330 million homes in America. | ||
| ABC News must partner with locally owned, privately owned stations. | ||
| And those stations, which represent no doubt, Trump voters, the majority of them are Trump voters. | ||
| Remember, you live in a country where 90% of the counties are Trump counties. | ||
| Those station owners are sick to their stomach about the programming that is coming out of ABC. | ||
| But they've never had the temerity or the backbone or the cultural moment to finally say we're pulling Jimmy Kimmel's show. | ||
| Till now. | ||
| Here's what those owners told me, and a lot of this is going to come out, but boy, they told me some special little secrets about Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| One of the owners told me that Jimmy Kimmel's program has been like a hockey stick downward, that they can't even sell ads against Jimmy Kimmel's show because so few people watch it in the key demo and in their region, that they can't even sell like local Ford dealership ads against Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| The Ford dealership doesn't want the association. | ||
| The local Ford dealership doesn't want the association. | ||
| They can't sell. | ||
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you Thank you. | |
| Jimmy Kimmel's show, because Jimmy Kimmel's show is such a repulsive stick in the eye to the vast majority of Americans. | ||
| Now that is a collapsing business model. | ||
| That's a spiraling business model that ABC News wants to get rid of. | ||
| ABC News was well on their way to getting rid of Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| We just gave him a little nudge. | ||
| I just want to thank these local stations. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| They've called me up. | ||
| They said, thank you. | ||
| I want to thank them. | ||
| Next star and Sinclair are the two that really stood their ground here. | ||
| Without these local stations, please scroll down to the bottom here, Klein. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Without these local stations, that by the way, you're talking about a hundred million. | ||
| My numbers were wrong. | ||
| I was uh corrected yesterday. | ||
| You're talking a hundred million American homes. | ||
| Well, Jimmy Kimmel last we checked, gets a million viewers a night. | ||
| A million viewers a night. | ||
| Like any, like any random video, a video of me walking down the street will do a million views. | ||
| But kind of depending on what it is, you know. | ||
| The video we posted outside of Charlie Kirk's memorial will do a million views. | ||
| Believe that. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel gets just a million views a night. | ||
| What about in the key demographic? | ||
| That's people that are under the age of 50. | ||
| That's what the advertisers all want to reach. | ||
| 129,000 viewers. | ||
| 129,000 viewers in the key demographic. | ||
| Dude, Jimmy Kimmel's show is a zombie show. | ||
| It's an already broken, dead show. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| It was a zombie, it was a zombie show. | ||
| They didn't need any help. | ||
| We just gave ABC probably cover to do what they wanted to do forever. | ||
| And we finally gave the affiliates the backbone to stand up and say F this. | ||
| And so we just want to say thank you to the affiliate partners who let all who allowed for all this to happen. | ||
| 129,000. | ||
| 129,000 viewers. | ||
| Dude, that's a crazy. | ||
| Like on YouTube alone on election night, we had like 300,000 concurrents. | ||
| Like every single podcast that we do does more than that. | ||
| And we're nowhere close to like the big, you know, we're like we're we're we're dude, we're we're really proud of everything here. | ||
| Like we're we're not close to like the the single biggest show. | ||
| We're very, very proud of this audience. | ||
| We love how exponential the growth has gone. | ||
| And all the owners tell me that Jimmy Kimmel's viewership, since they started Jimmy Kimmel's show, the viewership has been a hockey stick downward. | ||
| That's an exact quote from one of the most powerful men in media. | ||
| So I didn't get much sleep last night. | ||
| Forgive me for being a little gruff this morning. | ||
| But if you think we're gonna stop, and you're a little sneering, scolding, latte drinking, vanilla lots, pumpkin spice takes from your weakling Republican side, which got us into this position. | ||
| If you think that that's going to stop us, buckle up. | ||
| We're just getting started. | ||
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| ALX checking in. | ||
| Everything good? | ||
| Everything good? | ||
| Sorry for the rant off the top. | ||
| Just want to like uh just had to go berserker mode. | ||
| Because I'm seeing people push back on this stuff. | ||
| Now it looks like there was new information. | ||
| Oh, would you look at this? | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| From you got to pop that up from the judiciary committee. | ||
| There I am. | ||
| Who is being censored? | ||
| There I am on the censorship list right there. | ||
| Is Charlie on there? | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| There he is, right there. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You know, we know what government censorship looks like. | ||
| This is from directly from the judiciary committee. | ||
| Is Byron on that committee? | ||
| Byron McDonald's won't be joining us in just a moment. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, what a total and complete nightmare for the right. | ||
| If we can't stiffen our spine and get a little gunpowder in our gut right now, get a little bit of a chip on our shoulder, and set our hearts like Flint to find a moral basement and then enforcing that and enforcing consequences. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| They're going to keep doing it. | ||
| Stephen Colbert last night was, I don't know, doing like a victory dance over this. | ||
| They're trying to say that this is a free speech issue. | ||
| We'll prove that it is absolutely the opposite of a free speech issue. | ||
| But Stephen Colbert, you knew what he was going to do last night. | ||
| He went out and doubled down. | ||
| Which I'm like, keep talking. | ||
| Keep talking, pal. | ||
| Keep keep it going. | ||
| We could do this all day. | ||
| It's like shadow boxing for us. | ||
| This is a blast. | ||
| We're having a blast. | ||
| Here's uh here's Colbert's. | ||
| By the way, Colbert from an already canceled show from his zombie platform, uh, talking about his buddy Jimmy Kimmel also having a zombie platform now go. | ||
| We are all Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
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I am still have a show though, right? | |
| Okay, go. | ||
| Yesterday, after threats from Trump's FCC chair, ABC yanked Kimmel off the air indefinitely. | ||
| That is blatant censorship. | ||
| And it always starts small. | ||
| You know, remember, like in week one of his presidency, Gulf of America. | ||
| Call it Gulf of America. | ||
| Sure, seems harmless, but with an autocrat, you cannot give an inch. | ||
| And if ABC thinks, if ABC thinks that this is gonna satisfy the regime, they are woefully naive. | ||
| And clearly they've never read the children's book if you give a mouse a Kimmel. | ||
| And and to Jimmy, and to Jimmy, just let me say I stand with you and your staff 100%. | ||
| And also, you couldn't let me enjoy this for like one week. | ||
| Just come on. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So let's take on that commentary there. | ||
| This is blatant censorship. | ||
| Blatant censorship, says Stephen Colbert, who also, by the way, is broadcasting on CBS, which is um, let's see, an FCC licensed broadcaster. | ||
| Can run the same op on Steven. | ||
| Look forward to it, actually. | ||
| What did the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter break down yesterday? | ||
| That this actually had nothing to do with the FCC. | ||
| As much as we'd love to pat ourselves on the back, and we certainly accelerated the conversation about Jimmy Kimmel by doing that interview. | ||
| This had nothing to do with the FCC. | ||
| This has everything to do with Disney leadership, knowing that Jimmy Kimmel's show sucks. | ||
| Let's read. | ||
| Uh news. | ||
| Disney's CEO Bob Iger and co-chairman Dana Walden made the decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel's show after he planned to double down and go after Charlie Kirk again. | ||
| I mean, at this point, you have to assume that the purpose of all of this is early retirement and a payout. | ||
| At this point, there is no other assumption that they want this to happen. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel planned to double down and go on camera, defend his lie that MAGA voters killed Charlie Kirk rather than kowtow to outrage rather than have a standard of moral decency applied to him, which is so simple, by the way. | ||
| This is a this is unbelievable. | ||
| This is how you know that it's a spiritual war. | ||
| The simple standard is this. | ||
| Hey, like, let me write, let me let me do it. | ||
| And I never have a script. | ||
| I never write any, you know, but like decent writer, okay? | ||
| Let me write this for you, Jimmy. | ||
| I'm not in the I'm not in the SAG guild, but I can do a little writing for you. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's here's your script for the night. | ||
| Um we abhor all political violence. | ||
| We are very sorry for the loss that the Kirk family is experiencing right now, and we pray for them. | ||
| We disavow all political violence. | ||
| The end. | ||
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Boom. | |
| That's it. | ||
| Applause line, move on. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's impossible for these goblins to do this because their souls are broken. | ||
| Pray for them. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel's show plan to double down on the lie that MAGA voters killed Charlie Kirk rather than Kowtow to the outrage. | ||
| Hollywood reporter reports they yanked him because they thought that it would fan the flames. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Oh, yes, it would. | ||
| Next star and Sinclair affiliates dropped him. | ||
| So they already knew that was going to happen. | ||
| The advertisers calls began to roll in, and then the big affiliate conglomerates, Nextstar and Sinclair, threatened to preempt the show. | ||
| That's a that's saying they won't air it, right? | ||
| They're going to exercise their right to not air it. | ||
| This market reaction, not tied to the FCC chair at all. | ||
| Kimmel even planned to double down and not apologize after Disney employees saw their emails doxxed, some even receiving death threats. | ||
| 66 of roughly 200 affiliate stations said that they would drop Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| That's when Walden and Iger, these are the guys running Disney, said, You're done. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| You already get only a million viewers a night. | ||
| What happens when a fourth of your stations get dropped? | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't like at what point at what is Jimmy Kimmel going to have the same broadcast numbers as like the chicks, like the girls dancing to the Kamala Coconut song on TikTok. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I find that more entertaining, frankly. | ||
| So this is a market decision. | ||
| To be clear, a comedian decided in the wake of an assassination of a prominent conservative to call the shooter MAGA, which is a lie. | ||
| The network asked him to tone it down, and he said he was going to come out and double down and make it far worse for the network. | ||
| Thus leading to all of the network affiliates that they provide that provide the funding for the network to come out and cancel his show. | ||
| And our media right now, our entire media ecosystem right now, is defending Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| What does that show you about where we are at wild moment. | ||
| Truly. | ||
| One more here from Sean Davis. | ||
| It's just a pure banger. | ||
| They just murdered Charlie Kirk in broad daylight in front of his kids while he was peacefully debating at a college. | ||
| They laughed about it. | ||
| The university professors around the country said we need more assassinations. | ||
| Then Jimmy Kimmel went on and blamed MAGA for it. | ||
| And Ross Dalthit from the New York Times. | ||
| Imagine if the roles were reversed. | ||
| What planet do you live on? | ||
| This is the weaklings of the Republican Party. | ||
| No, what needs to happen right now is we need to double and triple down. | ||
| Brendan Carr yesterday saying the view needs to be next. | ||
| That's like amazing. | ||
| We have a clip. | ||
| Brendan Carr. | ||
| Maybe it's the view. | ||
| Maybe maybe investigating view is going to be worthwhile here. | ||
| Uh, he said this yesterday. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Fox News uh saying FCC chairman Brendan Carr says it may be worthwhile to investigate whether ABC's The View is violating broadcast standards as well. | ||
| This is how you win. | ||
| Not by ceding ground that you've already conquered, but by continuing to conquer ground. | ||
| We struck deep into the heart of darkness. | ||
| We struck well beyond enemy lines into the highest regions of their diseased temple. | ||
| And now Republicans say retreat. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| We have some of Charlie's strongest allies lined up, some of the people who built this empire with Charlie that will talk about what Charlie would want us to do in this moment. | ||
| In this moment of victory, would Charlie want us to retreat and cry and whimper and ask for goodies and treats from our masters? | ||
| Here's Brendan Carr yesterday. | ||
| Yeah, maybe the maybe the view, maybe we investigate the view next. | ||
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Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers at NBC. | |
| Just wondering, do you have comments on those shows? | ||
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And are they doing what Kimmel did Monday night? | |
| And is it even worse on those programs, in your opinion? | ||
| Well, if you can be uh unfunny, uh that's fine. | ||
| And a lot of people are sort of saying that, well, people are punishing Kimmel because they don't like a joke that he told, but you know, we don't need to rehash it here. | ||
| Obviously, what he said was not a joke. | ||
| Uh, it wasn't presented at all that way. | ||
| But when you look at these other TV shows, what's interesting is the FCT does have a rule called um the equal opportunity rule, which means, for instance, if you're in the run up to an election, you have one you know partisan elected official on, you have to give equal time, equal opportunity to the opposing partisan politician. | ||
| So far, so good. | ||
| But there's an exception to that rule called the bona fide news exception, which means if you are a bona fide news program, you don't have to abide by the equal opportunity rule. | ||
| And over the years, the FCC has developed a body of case law on that, and it suggested that most of these late night shows, other than FNL, um are bona fide news programs. | ||
| And potentially I would assume you can make the argument that the view is a bona fide news show, but I'm not so sure about that. | ||
| And I think it's worthwhile uh to have the FCC look into whether the view uh and some of these other programs that you have still qualify as bona fide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place. | ||
| Got about 30 seconds. | ||
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| His name is Byron Donald. | ||
| I'm sure he has quite a number of takes on this. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Congressman running for the governor of Florida, somebody who knew Charlie Kirk extremely well, and somebody who I know was about to go on tour with Charlie. | ||
| It's bittersweet, but someone who I know will remember our friend beautifully is the great Congressman Byron Donalds, live right now. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| you you Hey Congressman, uh good morning and from from Turning Point headquarters here. | ||
| Uh I wanted to give you just an opportunity. | ||
| I know that you've I know that you knew Charlie extremely well. | ||
| I know that Charlie was planning events with you in Florida. | ||
| I know that Charlie endorsed your campaign for governor. | ||
| I want to give you just an opportunity to uh tell the audience, you know, what Charlie meant to you and and and eulogize them for just a bit. | ||
| Honestly, this it's really hard. | ||
| It's good to be with you, Benny. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Um, I always judge people, especially in politics by how they treat people when the cameras are not running. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And Charlie is he was a great man, great human being. | ||
| I remember, you know, when I first met him, was my first turning point maybe five years ago out in actually out in Arizona. | ||
| And he, you know, I never met him before. | ||
| Obviously, you heard about him if you've been in politics long enough. | ||
| And the way he treated me, a freshman congressman, um, that many people did not know uh was with a lot of just respect, humility. | ||
| He really opened the doors to me. | ||
| And he's never that's who he was. | ||
| He was that way to everybody. | ||
| And you know, our relationship grew over the years. | ||
| Um, really blessed to have counted him as a friend. | ||
| My wife Erica got a chance to know uh know Erica Kirk and try to spend as as little time as you could because everybody's crisscrossing his schedules are crazy. | ||
| But he is a great man. | ||
| And I think the thing that's most frustrating with how the radical left tries to look at Charlie is they look at his arguments, but they try to ignore the humanity. | ||
| And that's the biggest issue we're having right now in politics, in my view, is that people ignore the humanity of people. | ||
| But I know for a fact that people that have met Charlie Kirk have dealt with Charlie Kirk on a personal level. | ||
| They all swear by his character, his his humility, his humanity, and his value set, you know, not just not just somebody who believes in conservatism and conservative policies and putting the country first, but a Christian of the highest order who lived it, who walked that life. | ||
| That's who he was. | ||
| And I think um, man, it's still tough to even say was, to be honest with you, Benny. | ||
| That's who he is. | ||
| And that's how I always will remember Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It's alive here, actually. | ||
| I, you know, I came here this morning. | ||
| Uh, Congressman, this is my first time at Turning Point headquarters since Charlie's political assassination. | ||
| And the memory and energy of Charlie is actually still here, and it's inspiring to me. | ||
| The memorial stretches for miles out front of the building. | ||
| It's 20 feet deep, and it's nothing but American flags. | ||
| The the cops, you've been to Turning Point headquarters before. | ||
| Yeah, I've been there. | ||
| The cops have had to shut down the entire city block, which is like a quarter of a mile for the size of the memorial. | ||
| There are two police cars stationed at at each end of this entire massive block here in Phoenix, you know, here in Phoenix is like the desert, right? | ||
| So these city blocks are just enormous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's uh I it's just I was you know, I didn't know what to expect, but uh, but we I want to talk about this fight, this this cultural fight that now the mantle falls to people like yourself to take up uh in Charlie's memory, and that that energy is like still there, like a proper martyr, it's more powerful now, arguably maybe than ever. | ||
| Well, the first thing I'll say is uh, you know, when you see you know that many people come out to show their respect um for Charlie, it's not just about his positions. | ||
| It's not, it's about the man. | ||
| And what you see there is a depth of love for the man that has touched so many lives in so many different ways, help people start careers, platform people, and I and I want to be straight. | ||
| He didn't have to do that, he chose to do that. | ||
| That was the mission that God had him on. | ||
| He chose to be that person, he chose to follow Christ, and he chose to share his light with the world and really put a lot of people ahead of himself and ahead of his family, and that's why you see uh that kind of love and support come out for him. | ||
| Um I think in terms of taking a mantle, it Charlie's a one of one, he's one of one. | ||
| You're not gonna replace him. | ||
| I firmly believe that he's irreplaceable, but I think everybody deciding to be in the fight, quote unquote, and and and stand firm on principle and stand firm on the on the Judeo-Christian values system and on Western civilization. | ||
| I think that's how we honor him. | ||
| We all take uh our responsibilities even more seriously. | ||
| Yeah, I truly believe Benny, you're never gonna replace Charlie. | ||
| He's irreplaceable to start an organization like Turning Point at 18 years old to grow it to what it became. | ||
| Um, I remember during the inauguration, I said to him, we would not have won without him. | ||
| We would not have won without him. | ||
| I firmly believe that. | ||
| What he's meant, not just to the conservative movement, but really to the fabric of American politics, reinvigorating debate and speech, engaging young people, it's gonna require so many people to take seriously their politics in order to truly um acknowledge the legacy of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One of the final text messages I had with Charlie Kirk was working on planning some youth events at football games in Florida with you, Congressman, for your uh for your gubernatorial race. | ||
| It's it's something that we were actively working on. | ||
| It's like the cultural energy that Charlie was constantly bringing, and he would love cultural victories. | ||
| We and in this room where I am right now, like we planned constantly, and Charlie talked constantly about cultural victories, being able to have the power as a movement to stand up for this country that is in our majority. | ||
| Donald Trump won the popular vote. | ||
| Donald Trump won seven swing states. | ||
| Donald Trump won 90% of American counties in this country. | ||
| And those people have no power in entertainment. | ||
| They have no power in media. | ||
| So we plotted in this room where I am right now, so many long hours into the small hours of the morning. | ||
| How do we fix that? | ||
| How do we start podcasts, start shows like the one we're on right now? | ||
| The Charlie Kirk show that was a mammoth. | ||
| Like this was the room that I actually logged Charlie into Instagram for the first time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now look where we're at. | ||
| And so now Jimmy Kimmel, I mean, I'm telling you, this is something that Charlie is smiling down from heaven at because we are enforcing a cultural moral standard. | ||
| That you are not allowed to lie about somebody, and you are not allowed to victim blame and continue this poison, which is what Jimmy Kimmel did. | ||
| I want to get your thoughts, your your top line on that, Congressman, because you know what government censorship looks like. | ||
| We've posted from the Judiciary Committee multiple screenshots of what the Biden administration was doing to censor Charlie. | ||
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Right. | |
| They were using the full force of the government to tell social media to rip Charlie off the internet. | ||
| We have the documents. | ||
| So this left is screaming about censorship. | ||
| Did they help you here, Congressman? | ||
| Like fight this censorship? | ||
| Or they all frauds? | ||
| Uh one number one, they're all frauds. | ||
| Not only did they try to stop the Biden administration from censoring not just uh you or Charlie or President Trump or anybody else, they were fully in support of censoring all of America when it came to COVID-19, getting real information out there to people, the negative impacts of lockdowns, the negative impacts of lockdowns on schools, the negative impacts of forcing vaccine mandates on our soldiers, trying to force him on employers. | ||
| This that this is these are the same Democrats that wanted to spy on the bank accounts of every American citizen. | ||
| This is what they proposed out of the Biden administration, and the Democrats were all for it until they got pushback from Americans who vote Democrat pushed back, and that's when they stopped. | ||
| So when it comes to this Jimmy Kimmel situation, I'm not listening to the radical left. | ||
| They have shown and proven that they will stoop to any level, any any any deep level in order to maintain power. | ||
| That's who they are. | ||
| With respect to Jimmy, look, here's the deal. | ||
| His ratings are down. | ||
| The show was not good. | ||
| And then he obviously defamed um MAGA and defamed more than half the country at this point, trying to blame us and trying to blame Charlie for his assassination. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| So of course, Disney was listening to the feedback they were getting from the marketplace. | ||
| And look, this is consistent in any in any business, any sports team or anywhere else. | ||
| Your talent only will take you as far until your distractions outweigh your talent. | ||
| And the truth is that Jimmy Kimmel's talent was not bigger than the distractions that he was causing. | ||
| And at this point, him lying about the truth about Charlie Kirk's assassination was literally the straw that told Disney, you know what? | ||
| Time to sit you down. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| Trying to blame shift, trying to blame the FCC commissioner. | ||
| That's what the left always does. | ||
| They're trying to point the finger at somebody else instead of acknowledging the fact that Jimmy's show was not good, his ratings were down, and Disney's looking around and saying we can't afford to lose sponsorships. | ||
| We can't afford our affiliates to now basically go dark on our programming. | ||
| You know what, Jimmy Kimmel, you're not that good. | ||
| We gotta sit you down. | ||
| It's a free market decision. | ||
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Yes. | |
| We're we're happy to assist in that free market decision. | ||
| We were like very proud of that interview. | ||
| And that was a great interview by the FCC chairman. | ||
| Uh and people don't understand the nuance here. | ||
| They get an FCC license. | ||
| They ABC broadcasts on the backs of lavish taxpayer goodies. | ||
| And as you know, Congressman working in the government, are you on your third or fourth term? | ||
| Like, as you know, when you get taxpayer dollars, there are strings that come with those. | ||
| And part of those strings is you are going to be broadcasting in the public interest. | ||
| CBS learned this when they edited a Kamala Harris clip. | ||
| They edited a Kamala Harris answer and in 60 minutes. | ||
| And they edited it so that it was kind of cogent on Israel and Palestine. | ||
| And it wasn't actually. | ||
| And CBS had to pay dearly for it. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| And it's something that is a special license that's given. | ||
| I get I'm I don't expect them to understand the nuance of that. | ||
| But it's in, but the entire debate is utterly bemusing and fraudulent from the left because they've done it to us, they've done it to comics. | ||
| I mean, it's uh like do they remember Roseanne? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or Tim Allen, or do they remember what they did to Dave Chappelle? | ||
| Dave Sappel's or killed Tony, you spoke at that, didn't you? | ||
| Didn't you speak at Madison Square Garden? | ||
| Like Kill Tony told a hilarious joke, and they tried to end the election over it. | ||
| Yeah, I was there. | ||
| I was in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| Um, by the way, I didn't think the joke was that funny because I heard it and I was like, ooh, well, okay. | ||
| But what they tried to do, the entire set was good. | ||
| I thought the set was hilarious. | ||
| The set was good. | ||
| I didn't think the joke was that funny. | ||
| But that be that being said, what happened was is they tried to make the entire event about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Benny, you were there. | ||
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| We basically had everybody, they basically half the cabinet spoke at this thing. | ||
| The cabinet that's there now with the president, Melania came out, and you know that Melania does not do a lot of events. | ||
| She came out and spoke at this event. | ||
| It was a wonderful event. | ||
| It was a point of pride for me because I'm from Brooklyn, New York. | ||
| So to be able to speak at Madison Square Garden was just like a personal uh point of privilege for me. | ||
| And for the media to try to distill it down to what Kill Tony said in one segment at the beginning of the entire event, demonstrates how much the political left and the and the mainstream media will go to defame conservatives and to defame MAGA. | ||
| They do not care about free speech, they care about instilling their speech, and they do not want opposition. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| That's what goes on in America media today. | ||
| And it's your show, Charlie's show. | ||
| The it's it's conservatives and people who just believe in the Bill of Rights of our Constitution and believe in the fabric of America, who now have platforms. | ||
| They are pushed back. | ||
| And the impact of that on American politics has the left in a real tizzy because they don't know what to do when they actually have competition and they're held accountable. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| That's what's happening now for the first time in my lifetime or yours, Congressman. | ||
| Uh, holding accountable. | ||
| Last question for you, Ilhan Omar. | ||
| So the vote to censor her failed. | ||
| And then she is because Congress refused to hold Ilhan Omar accountable. | ||
| Now she's out saying this. | ||
| I have a 10-second clip to play for you. | ||
| Want to get your reaction due to Ilhan Omar talking about Charlie Kirk yesterday. | ||
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I do believe those of you who are interested in me lightning this hatefulness to me. | |
| I'm full of shit. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Ohhan Omar is out saying that people are full of shit. | ||
| And I'm just quoting this Congresswoman trying to rewrite, rewrite this hateful man's history. | ||
| Uh so this is what happens when there's no accountability. | ||
| Listen, when it comes to free speech, you know, I'm I'm an absolutist. | ||
| This is where I do have a lot of libertarian leanings. | ||
| What she said is disgusting and detestable. | ||
| She didn't know the man. | ||
| And I think, look, when somebody dies, especially as horrific as what happened to Charlie Kirk, um, the dead are not around to defend themselves. | ||
| And I think there is a uh a semblance of decency and morality you got to have. | ||
| People have died that I don't agree with. | ||
| I don't run around talking about their legacy because they're not here anymore. | ||
| You have to let the people who love them, who knew them actually lay out their their legacy. | ||
| I think that's just the decent thing to do. | ||
| So for Ilan and others on the left who decided they're going to use this as an ability to lay a new political narrative. | ||
| I just find it to be disgusting and reprehensible. | ||
| You just don't do that. | ||
| There are some lines you just don't cross. | ||
| And to be blunt, I think the American people see this. | ||
| They realize how nasty this is. | ||
| And this is why forget policy for a moment. | ||
| This is why the Democrats are not going to get power again for quite some time into the United States until they deal with the disgusting rot that exists in their party. | ||
| Should Ilhan Omar be censored? | ||
| I mean, what should I do? | ||
| I voted for I listen, I voted for it. | ||
| I wanted her to be censored. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think she should. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Uh, Congressman and future governor of Florida, Byron Donald's, a dear friend of our program, a dear friend of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| One of the last things that Charlie and I were working on was actually a Florida tour with the Congressman. | ||
| We got to make that actually happen. | ||
| Uh we uh we gotta make that happen, Byron. | ||
| Um, please follow Byron Donald's right here is his ex account. | ||
| Uh and ladies and gentlemen, make sure that we are giving power to those who give power back to the people. | ||
| 1.1 million subscribers for Byron Donald's here, uh, a true fighter uh in the form of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| See ya, Benny. | ||
| Take it easy. | ||
| bless everybody. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| you you you Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| As you can see, I am hoarse. | ||
| We have been talking a lot. | ||
| My voice has been cracking. | ||
| We are going to ride it through. | ||
| We are not going to quit. | ||
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| All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have some in-studio guests here that we're honored to have uh be joining us there. | ||
| Some of Charlie's closest allies, friends, the people who built this beautiful building and all of this, and who are going to continue to build uh in Charlie's name and legacy. | ||
| We're going to play a short clip here, uh, an interview that we did yesterday with Pastor McCoy as we reorient the studio for in-person uh interviews. | ||
| It's just gonna be a very short clip uh that allows for us to do just a little bit of reorganization here on set. | ||
| Uh, this is Charlie Kirk's pastor uh yesterday giving a beautiful blessing about his life. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| But I witnessed a miracle at scale with Charlie's life. | ||
| I'll be able to say that on my on my death bed. | ||
| And I'll be able to like sit and like smile, a little crack crack a smile that I got to witness like an actual, like an actual miracle up to martyrdom, and then to see then that martyrdom, much like with Stephen, uh, go worldwide, right? | ||
| And advance, advance the kingdom the way that God always advances his kingdom, which is through martyrdom and through the suffering of his saints. | ||
| And it's a it's just a profound thing. | ||
| And I'm dwelling upon that constantly. | ||
| And well, I'm seeking spiritual advice right now, and I'd like to ask you to do something for our audience, and perhaps in the lead up to uh the uh the service on Sunday. | ||
| I just like I know there's a lot of people that are hurting, a lot of people that would love uh a prayer from you. | ||
| Perhaps we could just pray here and um carry us uh spiritually bind us and carry us um with protection into uh this very important weekend. | ||
| Benny, as we begin to pray, I want to say this that there's a lot of chatter going on. | ||
| When Abraham Lincoln died, everybody wanted to claim his life for their own because he was bigger than life, and that's what's happening now. | ||
| Everyone's trying to position themselves to get something from Charlie's life. | ||
| Yeah, it's grotesque. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| I don't really want to talk about it, but I hate it. | ||
| I I don't, and all I want to say about it is this. | ||
| I I'm getting calls from everyone saying, Is it true? | ||
| Is it true that Charlie said this, this, this, and I said, stop. | ||
| This is not the season. | ||
| Everybody right now is talking to man about man. | ||
| It's time to talk to God about man. | ||
| It's time to pray for the family. | ||
| It's time to pray for Erica and the kids and his mom and his dad and his sister and all the folks at turning point and everybody who loved Charlie. | ||
| It's time to pray for a harvest of souls. | ||
| It's time to endeavor to keep the unity of the spirit and the bond of peace. | ||
| You you can do all your stuff later. | ||
| Let's bury our brother. | ||
| And and everybody just calm down. | ||
| Everybody calm down. | ||
| Read Psalm 131. | ||
| I do not concern myself with matters too profound for me, but I've calmed and quieted my soul like a weaned child. | ||
| Oh, Israel, hope in the Lord from this day forth and forevermore. | ||
| And the idea is just calm down, seek the Lord, pray, talk to God about man. | ||
| And and and come to the Lord, and He's there. | ||
| He's an ever-present help in times of need. | ||
| And so let's let's go to the Lord now. | ||
| Lord, I thank you for Benny. | ||
| I thank you for his precious family. | ||
| And Lord, I thank you for the work he's doing and how he is honoring Charlie, but more importantly, contending in culture for truth. | ||
| And and Lord, Charlie wasn't guilty of hate speech. | ||
| They just hated his speech. | ||
| A lie can never survive in the presence of truth, but the truth is never afraid of a lie. | ||
| And Charlie was never afraid, Lord, because you were with him. | ||
| I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. | ||
| He would he would wake up every day, Lord, in your presence, spending time with you as you had instructed him when you, Lord Jesus, long before the sun would arise, you'd go to a solitary place and there commune with the Father. | ||
| Charlie made that the strongest point of his day. | ||
| He knew that time with you was the most precious thing he could do, and he would even take one day of the week to shut everything down and make sure his family recognized that you were the start of every week and you were the head of that home. | ||
| And so, Lord, now that that Gigi and Mac are being raised without their daddy. | ||
| Lord, you you you are a father to the fatherless. | ||
| And God, I pray that you would comfort Erica. | ||
| I pray that you would cause those children to grow and give them a double portion of what their daddy had. | ||
| That you would cause those two to have a supernatural love for your word and a heart to proclaim it, that you would protect their purity and their innocence, and that you'd be you'd make them mighty in their generation to declare your truths. | ||
| I pray that you give Erica wisdom beyond her years to raise them in the love and the admonition of the Lord and bring alongside folks who would help in that capacity. | ||
| And Lord, we we pray for his mom and his dad and his sister, comfort upon them. | ||
| No parent should ever outlive their child. | ||
| And and Lord, I I pray that you would minister to all the staff who is just crushed and hurting, that you would comfort them and bless them and allow them to not look down but to look up in the year that King Uzziah died, which which was just shocking to all the nation. | ||
| Their leader was dead, the one that had brought freedom, even when Moses is dead. | ||
| But but Lord, when it was when Uzziah died, Isaiah says, in the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord high and lifted up, and the train of his robe filled the temple with glory. | ||
| Lord, allow us all to look up to realize you you were the strength of Charlie, and you're the strength to us. | ||
| May all of this in this trial and This difficulty in this fallen world cause us to press into you and there find help in our time of need. | ||
| You're the you're the holy comforter. | ||
| You're the one who long come comes alongside. | ||
| And Lord, I pray you'd bring peace, a peace that would surpass all understanding, guarding their heart and their mind in Christ Jesus. | ||
| And we pray come Sunday, Lord, there would be a great harvest of souls. | ||
| That Lord, as Charlie said, make heaven crowded. | ||
| Lord, please, I pray that you would be glorified and blessed. | ||
| And let even the political speakers speak of how their life was spiritually changed by Charlie. | ||
| Control their voices. | ||
| Make it a day to glorify your name. | ||
| And Lord again, thank you for Benny. | ||
| And thank you for for the blessing of this platform, honoring our friend Charlie Kirk. | ||
| We love you, Lord. | ||
| In Jesus' name, amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| What a wonderful thing to be able to do that live on the show. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| you you Ladies and gentlemen, we are live now with Tyler Boyer, who more than any single man has built this building that we are in right now in Phoenix, Arizona. | ||
| In fact, we are broadcasting from Phoenix, Arizona because Tyler is from here and loves Phoenix and convinced Charlie to move turning point to Phoenix. | ||
| And so Tyler, this has been the week of weeks. | ||
| What is your reflections? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, Benny, it's like uh, you know, we just we were just talking about it off camera right now. | ||
| Is it's like every second of every day, you feel like this deep internal mourning. | ||
| Uh, but the work is going on and we're supporting, I think, thousands of staff and former staff that are around us that care so much about Charlie and his legacy and the work that we do. | ||
| And then you you, you know, the ripples that are from that, with not just his family friends and co-workers, but um, you know, the thousands and thousands, hundreds of thousands of activists, the millions of of you know, political bystanders, if you will, people that watched in Charlie on a day-to-day basis. | ||
| He was invited, they invited him into their homes every single day. | ||
| Um, I mean, this is just so impactful for so many. | ||
| And so there's a there's a nucleus of people here that are uh as you walk around um on campus here at Turning Point Headquarters that uh feel the weight of that. | ||
| Um, and they are are living up to that, I think, in a very positive and uh uh honestly like a very holy way. | ||
| It's been incredible to watch. | ||
| I thought that it would be gloomy. | ||
| I thought it would be like a mortician's house here, and that there would be like a dark cloud. | ||
| There wasn't. | ||
| I showed up at 6 a.m. and there were dozens of people outside mourning Charlie. | ||
| There are there's a 20 foot, there's a 20 foot deep memorial to Charlie that stretches for two full city blocks that has to be caught blocked off by cops because it is so enormous. | ||
| It is like the spirit of Charlie actually still lives here and is present here, and it's it was I was kinetic. | ||
| I was expecting it to be a Paul, but it was actually uplifting coming here this morning. | ||
| The sun was just rising, it was this gorgeous sunset, it was hitting the mountainside. | ||
| And I was looking up, I was like, I I was so uplifted actually, uh, seeing it. | ||
| And again, 6 a.m. | ||
| And there was dozens, soon to be hundreds, maybe thousands outside today here at Turning Point a week on. | ||
| We've had thousands of thousands of people come by our headquarters, and it's our security team has made sure to have it delisted, so it's not easiest to find, but obviously where it is spread, and we really appreciate that a lot because it's been very uplifting. | ||
| Uh, there are uh pastors and priests and good people outside just uh talking to people, um, putting their arm around them. | ||
| Like you said, there's 20 20 feet deep, flowers, balloons, cards, notes, personal notes, by the way, which we're saving all of that. | ||
| Um, all of that's going to be going into whatever place that we memorialize for Charlie for for the his life and everything. | ||
| So uh it's it's really something to see. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| I've seen, yeah, I've obviously uh been to the September 11th memorial um and and places like that where there's been an immense amount of mourning uh for for those that have gone. | ||
| It's it's a similar type of a somber but positive and happy memorial, uh, where it's so many people were clearly impacted by Charlie's life. | ||
| What can we expect to see? | ||
| You're your integral in the planning of what is going to happen on Sunday. | ||
| Can you give people a preview? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the core team that's been putting on this on. | ||
| I mean, I I don't think people totally understand. | ||
| Um, we have planned more Trump rallies at Turning Point than any other organization. | ||
| You know that you've been there from the beginning, uh, Benny. | ||
| Benny has been there for some of the funniest moments that we've ever had in our lives. | ||
| So that's those are stories for another day that we can tell that will be a good idea. | ||
| If you didn't catch our stream, if you didn't catch our stream or uh later last week, we had many beautiful photos of Tyler at the very first Trump rally in America. | ||
| One of the first Trump rallies in history. | ||
| It was the first Trump rally. | ||
| The first Trump rally. | ||
| You are looking at right now, the man who planned the single first MAGA rally, something that will go down in history. | ||
| But Benny, you were involved with all of those early Trump events that we did at Turning Point, and we we hosted Trump more than any singular organization. | ||
| And the kind of the humbling part of this week is that our team that who's all here that love Charlie so much that spent our days with Charlie every single day. | ||
| Again, I I talk to Charlie once an hour, every hour for the last 11 plus years. | ||
| Uh, but those people that that love him so much are now planning what is going to be one of the largest memorials in American history with in-person and millions and millions of people watching. | ||
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| And and we're having to do that work, right? | ||
| And so, but the memorial itself is going to be something I think unlike anyone's ever seen, a positive experience that uh that unites Charlie's faith um and and the and the Christ-like center of what a memorial should be uh with you know the politics, the fun stories, the things, right? | ||
| That and in the biggest possible place that we could in Arizona at State Farm Stadium, uh, which the Bidwells were so nice to be able to give us the access to capacity of uh it's it's with standing room somewhere around 80 to 90,000 people. | ||
| Um, and and uh obviously there are layers to that around the stadium. | ||
| Uh, we've contracted the next door stadium, which is the hockey stadium where the coyotes once played. | ||
| Uh, so there is overflow capacity for everyone. | ||
| And I think you're gonna have for basically miles. | ||
| Um, you know, Alex Clark put this out where we're we're shooting right where she filmed a lot of a lot of her set stuff is uh they're gonna see for miles and miles, I think red, white, and blue people just coming from all corners of the earth, uh, here to the Phoenix area to Glendale, uh, to to mourn Charlie to remember Charlie and to uh to band together. | ||
| Do you expect a hundred thousand people in person? | ||
| Um, yeah, I would not be surprised if we if we have again the largest memorial that we've ever seen in person, um, with attendance-wise, uh, and and I think that's important for the world to see. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think it's really important as the as a movement as a conservative movement, um, as uh, you know, people who are believers in Christ, as people who are listeners of Charlie and followers of Charlie of disciples of Charlie, if to so to speak, and in this political uh, you know, craziness that we've we've all signed up for. | ||
| You and I signed up for many, many years ago. | ||
| Uh, I think it's really important for the world to see that. | ||
| I think people need to see the support that the conservative movement has, that this is a new era and that Charlie's legacy is not going to be forgotten anytime soon, and that we're all going to be working as hard as we possibly can to make it to bring it to life forever. | ||
| I don't want to get I want I don't want to skew because I spent the whole last hour ranting about Jimmy Kimmel and about how weak the right is and their allowance of Charlie's memory to be defamed and defiled. | ||
| And that's what this really is about. | ||
| Like it's about like, hey, I'm just trying to defend my friend here when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| And it is insulting to say that MAGA killed Charlie. | ||
| That is an insult to all of Charlie's work. | ||
| That is an insult to the movement. | ||
| It also victim blames, and then it also projects that if a far left wing radical goes and kills another Trump supporter, that Jimmy Kimmel will use the full power of ABC and their federally licensed broadcast yours to protect not the victim, but the shooter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to slander MAGA further. | ||
| And so it is actually an invitation to further violence because Jimmy Kimmel will protect you. | ||
| Because Jimmy Kimmel will use the power of ABC ABC to protect you and to not talk at all about the shooter or their ideology, but to continue to smear MAGA. | ||
| Why can't Republicans like understand that these are cultural victories that we must win? | ||
| We must be able to enforce standards and we must be able to enforce civil society that this shouldn't be allowed for anyone, but especially for our friend. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you look at the term civil society, the understanding is I think what most people in layman's terms would say is I want to see the world operate the way it used to be. | ||
| Um we went through some real heartache moments in American history uh with a lack of civility. | ||
| We saw that in the 60s, the late 60s, and America course corrected. | ||
| America came back and said, no, no, no, we're not gonna let people just get assassinated all the time in America and and good people stood up, but particularly Republicans, uh, stood up and course corrected uh the country. | ||
| Uh this is this is another moment where if you allow for people to uh that have power, like you mentioned, Jimmy Kimmel is one of them, right? | ||
| He's a powerful voice, whether we like it or not, on late night that's funded by you know one of the big four, you know, networks funded by the American taxpayers. | ||
| That is that is backed and funded and protected by the American taxpayers. | ||
| The American taxpayers pay for Jimmy Kimmel because of the FCC licensures. | ||
| And and and so it is really critical that we have that course correction similar to the 60s. | ||
| And there was nobody going on TV, you know, blaming again MLK or JFK after they got assassinated for or the people that supported him, his his, you know, the people closest to him, if you would say that. | ||
| For Jimmy Kimmel to go on TV and to do that, and to I mean, he's attacked and put a target on the back of anyone that wears a MAGA hat to begin with, with the the type of language that he's used. | ||
| Um, for him to go on and do that immediately after assassination, just normal common sense people look at that. | ||
| And and many Democrats that I've talked to look at that and they go, There's something wrong with these people. | ||
| Like this, they're sick in the head. | ||
| This isn't like what I actually subscribe for. | ||
| I didn't subscribe for a political movement to assassinate people and kill husbands and fathers and and and friends and neighbors and and things like that. | ||
| So I think it's really critical that again, America course corrects. | ||
| I think that there it's important for all Americans to stand up, not just you know, people that are in government positions or elected officials, every single person to say, you know, no more, we're not going to subscribe to this, and there needs to be a transition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I there needs to be somebody who there's this the way you get deteriorated radicalization that leads to terrorism is no consequences. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Never any societal enforcement of standards. | ||
| No, you can't like dehumanize someone like that. | ||
| No, you can't say that on TV. | ||
| Like that's that's an evil thing to say. | ||
| Not that it's illegal, but that there's going to be a consequence when you do this to somebody who is just politically assassinated. | ||
| And so the enforcement of consequences, I just find it wild on the right right now. | ||
| So there are so many people finger wagging about this. | ||
| No, Jimmy and Jimmy has every right to go start his own Jimmy Kimmel podcast and spew whatever he wants to spew. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Go on, you know. | ||
| This is the same way that Benny Johnson has his own show that he can talk about anything that he wants to talk about. | ||
| There's nothing stopping him from that. | ||
| But your point is it is really valid, which is that the taxpayer should not be funding and defending this type of behavior. | ||
| It's just this that's not what Johnny Carson was, right? | ||
| Johnny Carson was a beloved and invited into everyone's home because he didn't do those things. | ||
| He brought people together. | ||
| We don't need the device of that. | ||
| They went, they've they've gone so far left on the the you know the the major networks. | ||
| They've hop skipped and jumped over the daily show. | ||
| We were talking about this last night over because that they think that that's the only thing that's going to like save them with some kind of you know tiny little sliver of America that's going to support them enough to keep their ratings high enough. | ||
| I mean, his his numbers are so far down and they're so upside down with what Jimmy Kimmel's following as a late night show host, they've probably been looking for a good reason to get rid of him. | ||
| What will be really traumatic, I think, for America, if ABC doesn't do the right thing and they and they bring him back, that means that they they view some kind of really uh small value in him, which is really um you know, I think dirty and disgusting when you look at it because it's such a departure again from the Johnny Carsons of the world, even the Jay Linos from the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's just not it's not what Americans view as late-night TV. | ||
| So over a decade working with Charlie in this building, building in this building when this building was like just a shell. | ||
| I know you found this location. | ||
| Can you zoom out beyond the Jimmy Kimmel issue and talk about culture war victories and how valuable was that for Charlie? | ||
| How important was it for Charlie for us to have the power and the will to say to enforce for a good and moral people uh that make up the majority in this country? | ||
| Trump wins all seven swing states, Trump wins the popular vote. | ||
| 90% of counties are Republican counties, 90% of counties in America are Trump counties. | ||
| So we defend those people, those people have no power in the media. | ||
| Well, when you and Charlie were here 12 years ago, we had the minimum power in the media, no political power, no power in Hollywood, no power in entertainment. | ||
| Now, Jimmy Kimmel is looking at an actual consequence for the first time in his entire career ever. | ||
| Because in part of what Charlie built, actually. | ||
| And I think that that is a beautiful lasting legacy of Charlie, in fact. | ||
| Can you speak to the importance of cultural power for our movement? | ||
| Yeah, it's all activist centered. | ||
| So, you know, the the really important point that I don't want people to miss is that conservative media is stronger today because of the activist core that was built by Charlie Kirk. | ||
| This is what we've done at Turning Point. | ||
| The difference there was activist media prior to turning point getting big. | ||
| The difference today is that there are real life bodies that are real life organizing in places that matter across those 90% of counties, plus the 10% where the Democrats run too, by the way, everywhere, all 50 states in every county. | ||
| And and people can see it and they can touch it, they can feel it. | ||
| It's it's organic, it's it's real, right? | ||
| Versus the you know, Solinski, you know, fight fire with fire BS, which is that we know that doesn't work. | ||
| I tell people this all the time, Benny, and you've heard me say it before is that the Achilles heel to the Alinsky tactics that the left uses predominantly through media, uh, is spreading truth. | ||
| Well, the only way that you spread truth, and and trust me, a lot of those that engage in missionary work across all of the different Christian uh denominations and sects know is that you have to do it face to face. | ||
| You have to do it with real life bodies, you have to establish again the way that that Christ did, the church. | ||
| It has to be everywhere. | ||
| You have to go into the people. | ||
| And this is how Charlie died, by the way, is is the same way that the apostles lived, which is you have to go out. | ||
| You have to, you know, want to show up, right? | ||
| You can't just sit in a studio, dark studio or a basement somewhere and type on the internet all day and expect that the world's gonna change or it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be better. | ||
| You can't sit in a studio and again, this is like what's so important about Charlie's legacy. | ||
| He could have easily locked down the studio that we have that that you've been in here, right? | ||
| We could have locked that down, locked Charlie away in there for the rest of his life. | ||
| He could have been the safest man in America, the safest man. | ||
| He had the resources to do it, we have everything to do it. | ||
| And he chose to go to the people. | ||
| Charlie chose to go into, you know, to the Thessalonians and to the Romans and to the, you know, and and actually preach. | ||
| And that and in modern day, that was that's our college campuses. | ||
| And so let that be a legacy to be honored and also an example to others to say, hey, I know that there is a lot of positivity and safety. | ||
| I know there are a lot of bombs you can throw from a very safe place uh with Many fences with a lot of barbed wire and fields of minds in between you and the enemy. | ||
| Um, however, that's not the way that Jesus did it. | ||
| It's not the way that the apostles did it. | ||
| That's not the way that Charlie Kirk did it. | ||
| The way to do it is you have to go face to face with these people and look evil in the eye, and and truth will prevail. | ||
| What is going to be the lasting legacy of Charlie here? | ||
| I think there's many people that are now and his memorial weekend going to be asking that question. | ||
| So it's going to pivot from remembrance of Charlie to what is the work moving forward for Turning Point USA. | ||
| And I know that it is possibly the most deleterious thing to be done to Charlie would be for Turning Point USA to fail. | ||
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| And for this this mission to falter and for the establishment to come back in and to, you know, tee with Jimmy Kimmel on a show, right? | ||
| And get pats on the pats on the head, be good little boys, you know, and get a get a treat, right? | ||
| You're a good dog. | ||
| This is the this is the before Charlie Kirk, this was the and Donald Trump. | ||
| This was the basis state of the Republican Party, which were lap dogs. | ||
| And so how do we move forward, Tyler? | ||
| Obviously, turning point has to grow, but kind of piggybacking on what I just was talking about was that the activist core of the Republican Party, the conservative movement, whatever you want to call it, right? | ||
| We we call it the movement, the conservative movement has to grow. | ||
| It has to be strong, it has to be face to face, it has to be bold, it has to go to the people, it has to back up conservative media, it has to back up uh the faces who are doing the hard work. | ||
| It has to not fall victim to our own tripping over ourselves and falling for every conspiracy theory that's on planet earth or assuming the government's doing the right thing for us at all times, which is again that's what we preached from the very beginning, right? | ||
| Was that you can't really trust the government in a lot of cases, right? | ||
| And and there's a reason for that is because the government isn't going to do anything for you ever. | ||
| They're just not going to. | ||
| They're not going to save you. | ||
| Uh, our politicians who are elected are not going to save us. | ||
| They're going to do some good things from time to time that we're proud of, and other times they're not. | ||
| Um, we've already seen this week letdowns from people doing basic the basics of the right things, right? | ||
| You know, with Elon Omar and others, right? | ||
| So like you're always going to be let down by people. | ||
| And and again, this is kind of all just straight treat preach this straight from the you know, the conversations that Charlie and I had had millions of times is that people are gonna let you down. | ||
| You still know what is right. | ||
| You're still going to be able to, you know, you know, equip yourself with the armor of God. | ||
| You're gonna be able to go out and do the work, and you're gonna be able to look directly in the face of evil and be able to tell the truth. | ||
| And the more people that do that, the easier it gets. | ||
| The truth of Charlie Kirk and his legacy is that there are very few that were willing to do it. | ||
| And Charlie did it, and that's why he was targeted. | ||
| That's why we received so much hate over the years. | ||
| Uh, so the best thing that can possibly happen is that more people do that. | ||
| When we do that, it will grow. | ||
| The entire movement will grow. | ||
| Um, you know, when Rush Limbaugh passed away, he didn't have a turning point USA that he had built to be able to send high school, college faith, you know, believers to to be able to help grow that organic ministry, if you will. | ||
| Uh, didn't have turning point action to focus on actually holding the Republican Party accountable. | ||
| They obviously going after the left with the entire fierceness that of Charlie Kirk's heart. | ||
| That is what the future holds. | ||
| And we have it all here, and we're going to carry that that legacy through the years for the rest of our lives, is what I'm telling people is for the rest of my life. | ||
| Uh Charlie Kirk is going to be on my heart and in my mind every single day as a person that knew him just about as well as anybody in this world. | ||
| Um, and the only way that I can honor him is by doing that every single day. | ||
| And I know you feel the same way. | ||
| So last question, and a very important one for those who know Charlie. | ||
| You said holding the Republican Party accountable. | ||
| You know, he spent the day ranting and raving about the left. | ||
| They are absolute hobgoblins, they are sunken in nature. | ||
| I think that actually a spiritual exorcism is the only thing that can save the left, and that's about It our own party, however, is our own house. | ||
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| Holding accountable the Republican Party. | ||
| Would you mind just expanding on that and uh unpacking that as far as the mission moving forward? | ||
| Well, the analogy of you know, again, that at the time of Christ is that every situation where you have the evils of the world, you have those who uh aid the evil. | ||
| We have our own version of our own Pharisees that are walking amongst us, and it is you know absolutely without question that we have people within our own side, quote unquote, you know. | ||
| I use strong air quotes there on our side who are going to let us down. | ||
| They are they need to be replaced. | ||
| We have a movement right now at this time. | ||
| I mean, literally, and you're seeing it in real time. | ||
| Millions of people who have come in vigilant to honor Charlie Kirk's life. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The best thing that you can possibly do, and I know it's tough for everyone. | ||
| We all live lives, so we all have kids. | ||
| We have we have better things to do with businesses to run, but getting involved at the civic level to replace these people to hold them accountable, to get involved. | ||
| It doesn't take very many people to hold a congressman to account. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It just doesn't. | ||
| So if if you can hold the congressman to account with a few a handful of people, imagine what you can do at your city council level at your county level with your county commissioners or supervisors with your school board members. | ||
| It just takes a few hours and a few people in America to be able to hold these people accountable. | ||
| And Charlie did that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I I was there when Charlie would go down to school board meetings here in Arizona. | ||
| We did it numerous times. | ||
| Uh he was constantly texting, and every I mean, this these are stories that will be for a later time when we can get more into the politics of it all. | ||
| But I know hundreds and hundreds of stories of Charlie texting Congressman and telling them how disappointed he is with what they were doing. | ||
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And and we can't just happen with me, the Oha Nomar vote. | |
| I was like, I'm gonna get like expect to be dragged, expect to be dragged hard on my program. | ||
| And the Jimmy Kimmel thing has sort of taken a little bit of my attention away from that. | ||
| But that like enforcement, that holding up the side, like enforcement of our of our own, yep, and strengthening of our own, the default position, the default like jellyfish spine of the Republican Party. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Has to has to be done. | ||
| It has to be done. | ||
| And you know, whether it's from the big microphone that you have, or again, it's that one-on-one interaction in the background. | ||
| Um, Charlie did it all. | ||
| Um, and so that's that's what's necessary, and that's what's needed. | ||
| And I know that again, we have millions of people that are watching, and they're they're gonna do that. | ||
| They're gonna do that work. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| Yeah, this is the single most inspiring thing that I saw, and maybe not the most inspiring thing that I saw, but in the 2024 election, and I know you gotta go, but uh maybe we can just end with this. | ||
| I'm not sure that we have the assets actually like up about that we can put it up, but in the lead up to the actual electoral day, you were so focused on winning Arizona. | ||
| And Charlie, who is like a famous, like a legitimate famous person, right? | ||
| Who's considered a Trump son, you know, so it's the equivalent of Don Jr., right, going somewhere. | ||
| And, you know, if you look at the social media followings, you know, it absolutely is, you know, the equivalent of like a literal member of the first family going somewhere. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You post on social media. | ||
| I wasn't here in Arizona during that time, but you posted on social media like Charlie, like talking with like women's groups gathered at a little teeny park, which must have been like maybe 17 people total. | ||
| Yep, like little old ladies, and Charlie sitting there on a picnic bench, like one of the single most famous generational voices of a movement, a man who is considered part of the first family is going to like a 17-person, like like little ladies' red hat group in what must have been like some mountain range somewhere here in Arizona in the farthest reaches, like to activate them for Donald Trump. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He was not bigger than that. | ||
| It wasn't like I will only speak to the stadiums. | ||
| I know there's a photo on Charlie's social media somewhere. | ||
| I can pull for you. | ||
| Uh, but like, but yes, that that was what Charlie was doing leading up to the 2024 election, the most important election of our life. | ||
| But you know the background of that. | ||
| I just saw the photo. | ||
| I'm like, I told my wife, I was like, Kate, this is unbelievable. | ||
| This is just unbelievable that somebody of his power and celebrity is going to the picnic tables of like the mountain range retirement communities to activate. | ||
| But do you know why that was? | ||
| It was so important to us that we were spending, we're going to the people and spending time with the people. | ||
| And by the way, knocking doors, I forced our team to all knock doors, and then Charlie included, is to go to the people who are actually doing the work. | ||
| And the reality of that statement is that there are so few people who actually do the work. | ||
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| And so we went all this last election cycle. | ||
| I was just browsing through the pictures, Benny. | ||
| It's funny that you say that. | ||
| We went not just in Arizona, but it was every key target state. | ||
| We were doing these what we call super chase events, which are like super Saturdays, but we rebranded them as Super Chase for ballot chasing every day of the week. | ||
| And at literally every day, Charlie would finish his show. | ||
| He'd come straight over from his show, and we would be doing ballot chasing every single day during the election. | ||
| And if he was here in Arizona, we went to Arizona. | ||
| If he we were in a different state, we would go somewhere else. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| There were times where we had 15, 20 people at a tent in a park and then we'd rah-rah them up and they would go out and knock doors. | ||
| But that's how critical that work is, is that up till the very last days, I didn't know that this would be the last time that we would do this. | ||
| His last days, he was prioritizing that. | ||
| He was prioritizing the work. | ||
| And that is so critical. | ||
| Man. | ||
| It's just it's just something you never see. | ||
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| There's a lot of, you know, don't want to dunk on people or name names, but there's just so much Ivory Tower mentality. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Right? | ||
| Behind the scenes, you see people behind the scenes. | ||
| There's so much Ivory Tower, black car, like don't touch me, private jet mentality. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| In a lot of these corners, a lot of rich people, a lot of powerful people. | ||
| You would never see them, not even not never even see them at like the airport Starbucks, much less like knocking a door during an election. | ||
| No, people were shocked. | ||
| Because Charlie would knock on their door and yeah, bro. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Bro, that's absolutely crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's the equivalent of having like the door knock and it's Don Jr. or Eric Trump. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's the equivalent of that. | ||
| I can't think of a better equivalent. | ||
| Or like a like it's a door knock and you open up and it's Jesse Waters. | ||
| But it's right, and he's like, hey. | ||
| But it's so critical for our team, too. | ||
| It's like again, we run an activist organization with literally thousands and tens of thousands of people who look up to that. | ||
| You have to do the work. | ||
| You have to be the person. | ||
| You have to be the reason, the person, and show the way. | ||
| And that's what leadership is. | ||
| And he always did that every every step of the way. | ||
| I look, I it will be my honor to make sure that that energy keeps going. | ||
| And if there's one thing we can do on this program, it's bring the energy. | ||
| Thank you, Benny. | ||
| Thank you, Tyler. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Thank you for being here with us. | ||
| We have Tyler's social media handles. | ||
| Please pop them up, Klein, and make sure that we get uh that we get Tyler. | ||
| Well, look at that. | ||
| Two nearly 300,000 subscribers for Tyler Boyer. | ||
| Tyler, your uh following is like blown up, man. | ||
| Nearly 300,000 subs for Tyler. | ||
| He's the man who the architect behind so much of where we are right now. | ||
| And now joining us, thank you, Tyler. | ||
| Plug in here. | ||
| What up, G. How you doing, brother? | ||
| You looking good. | ||
| A man who uh I think logged into TikTok for the first time for Charlie. | ||
| A man who like uh is an architect of so much of the social media dominance of this moment. | ||
| A man who, and his name is Alex Bruzewitz, by the way, but a man who, and I want to like explain the importance of Alex. | ||
| There's a lot of people in DC who wear suits to work. | ||
| A lot of people with a lot of letters behind their name that say they run organizations that have you know money behind them. | ||
| Plenty of people who have money, penny guys in suits, plenty of dudes who can do spreadsheets and live in ivory towers in DC. | ||
| They're actually a dime a dozen. | ||
| Nobody knows their names. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Everyone knows the name of Charlie Kirk because of what Alex assisted in building, which is a massive dominant social media platform for Trump and the MAGA movement. | ||
| Uh Alex Bruzewitz is the architect behind the Trump war room, behind so much of the TikTok strategy that is used so effectively by the president and his team and Charlie. | ||
| And so you know, you've probably seen him perhaps on Fox News, but that's my introduction for Alex Bruzowitz. | ||
| It's a very kind introduction. | ||
| It's great to be here with you, and you're an incredible part of that online ecosystem that we've built. | ||
| Uh, it's been fun watching your voice get bigger, uh, your influence grow. | ||
| And uh you're really gonna need to step up even more with Charlie, unfortunately, no longer with us. | ||
| Can I get that? | ||
| I want to get esoteric for a second, because Charlie was murdered and a politically assassinated on September 10th, obviously, very uh a day away from the September 11th uh anniversary. | ||
| This is the I Charlie's assassination was the largest PTSD moment in I think human history because of how prescient he was on social media. | ||
| People felt like they knew him. | ||
| His haters felt like they knew him. | ||
| His haters felt like, and I can see this because I read the comments, his haters felt like they could never get away from Charlie. | ||
| Yeah, because he was the top of the trend every day. | ||
| He was constantly trending on TikTok, biggest video on either TikTok or YouTube or Instagram. | ||
| We've seen his social media following explode, actually, double and triple on some platforms, even after the political assassination, which is a which is a phenomenon that I think needs to be studied, in fact, because that just doesn't happen. | ||
| But can you speak, Alex, to why people felt so connected to Charlie? | ||
| Why this was so much more impactful than some of the other tragedy events that we've lived through, and it's sucks. | ||
| I'm almost 40, and it's like I, you know, I'm in my late 30s, and I feel like we've lived through many tragedy events, but Charlie hit different. | ||
| I think because so because of the his dominance on social media, because so many people felt like they knew him, they saw his family, they saw his love of his wife, they saw his love of his children. | ||
| They we followed him in the very definition of the term on social media. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And not just for a couple of years, for over a decade. | ||
| I first met Charlie on social media when I was 16 years old, he was 19. | ||
| We grew up about three hours away from each other in the Midwest. | ||
| He was in Illinois, I was in Wisconsin. | ||
| Uh, we became friends online because we were two teenagers supporting Scott Walker in the fight against the teachers unions. | ||
| And uh it was a fast friendship. | ||
| I think Charlie had 3,000 Twitter followers at that time. | ||
| I had like 800. | ||
| And um, you know, we we became friends that way. | ||
| And then I watched him for 11 years, 12 years grow into to this giant on social media. | ||
| But he put in the work, he put in the hours. | ||
| Um, you know, he he felt like it was a bad day if he didn't get over 180,000 retweets in one day. | ||
| And that was his number, and that was his number in 2017. | ||
| And so, you know, he wanted these days. | ||
| He wanted to be visible, he wanted and he put himself out there. | ||
| And I think he said a lot of the things that people, you know, were were feeling, were thinking, but couldn't say them themselves. | ||
| And so Charlie, similar to Trump, became the voice of so many young people in this country. | ||
| The kids who had to go to school and were uh concerned that they would get a bad grade if they misgendered their classmate, you know, they let Charlie misgender for them. | ||
| You know, he they let Charlie tell the truth for them. | ||
| And um, now I think we're seeing a lot of these young people that Charlie inspired, uh, who are too afraid to speak out. | ||
| They're now gonna speak out themselves, and you're seeing this ripple effect all across the country. | ||
| Uh and they did know Charlie because Charlie let them know him. | ||
| Um, they left, didn't know him. | ||
| They they knew who he was, but they didn't know who he was as a person. | ||
| If they knew Charlie as a person, they would have recognized that he was the nicest person in our movement. | ||
| He was the nicest one of us, he was the most moral one of us, he was the most generous one of us. | ||
| And um, he was a family man, he was a husband, he was a father. | ||
| Um, and uh he was a deep believer in God. | ||
| They left, you know, knew his name, but they didn't know him. | ||
| That's why it hits so different than like, you know, if you this is why it hits so different if you see. | ||
| Sorry, I think A Alex is saying, what scoot in? | ||
| What is it, Alex? | ||
| It's just got ALX, by the way, is also an incredible member of the online ecosystem. | ||
| He's an absolute is an absolute beast. | ||
| A Alex, you have to jump on set. | ||
| You have to just shout out Alex. | ||
| Somebody who also like was helped out in his young career by Charlie. | ||
| What brothers? | ||
| Just a really quick, just a really quick important story from this building. | ||
| When ALX was perma banned, that was reversed by Elon Musk. | ||
| It was Charlie who decided, like ALX would have been hired by Turning Point to run Twitter and do Twitter work. | ||
| And ever any other employer would have said, Well, you just got banned by Twitter, so you're done. | ||
| Your career's over. | ||
| Go back to the butcher shop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And AL and Charlie said no. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| He was you Charlie said no. | ||
| Charlie believed in ALX. | ||
| And we all should because he's incredible. | ||
| You know, ALX was I met ALX around the same time I met Charlie, maybe two years after I started my consulting firm X Strategies. | ||
| I didn't have money to be able to hire anybody, but I knew ALX from Twitter. | ||
| So I said, hey, ALX, can I put you on my website as a digital associate? | ||
| And he said, absolutely. | ||
| And so I launched my company X Strategies with ALX as one of my digital associates. | ||
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| Now the lore rare lore. | ||
| He has now the lore. | ||
| The lore. | ||
| What is that phenomenon where Charlie Kirk's I've never seen anything like it where somebody grows so much more powerful in death. | ||
| And I know it's a heavy question, but I can't figure it out, Alex. | ||
| Maybe you have an answer. | ||
| Where Charlie's nobody's ever seen an somebody dies, the energy goes away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People unfollow. | ||
| You know, people are like, why would I follow that person? | ||
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| Charlie's following has tripled, doubled, and tripled in some instances. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| Well, I think the Trump effect, you know, you had a lot of these. | ||
| The pollsters missed. | ||
| They can't they can't cover Trump. | ||
| They can't pull for Trump because there's so many of these people who are silent Trump supporters who kept their head down and they went to vote and they voted for Trump, but they won't tell their neighbors. | ||
| They won't tell their people because they feared the repercussions. | ||
| I think there were so many of these silent Charlie supporters, right? | ||
| These people who, you know, would watch these videos and Charlie, but they didn't necessarily follow Charlie at that time uh because they didn't want you know some radical left girlfriend that they were dating to see that they followed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| But I think they're they're no longer going to be silent. | ||
| I don't think they're they're no longer going to be afraid. | ||
| They saw what happened to Charlie, and they said this guy was willing to die for the truth. | ||
| He was willing to die for what was right. | ||
| And I'm not going to be afraid any longer of um, you know, speaking my mind, sharing my my opinions, speaking the truth. | ||
| And so I think now you're seeing all of these silent people come forward and say, I've been a Charlie follower for you know X amount of years, and he was right. | ||
| And um he he wasn't radical, they're the radicals. | ||
| And so I think the people are unafraid now, and Charlie's courage um and dying for for his beliefs, dying for the truth, uh inspires that courage within so many of us, and we're only gonna keep his legacy alive, uh, stronger than ever before. | ||
| You've done so much great work with the president. | ||
| You famously were with Donald Trump for the Twitter space for the X spaces, right? | ||
| Was it that was it? | ||
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| Trump was live with Elon Musk, you know, right on that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| That was a wild night. | ||
| That was that was what I'll remember. | ||
| What does it mean for the digital MAGA movement and the digital army? | ||
| Uh this moment, like what what what are you expecting on Sunday? | ||
| What are you expecting moving forward? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think I mean Charlie was the the create like the leader of this movement. | ||
| There's two people that deserve the credit for the online right ecosystem. | ||
| It's Donald Trump creating the reply guys, like ALX, and then Charlie Kirk creating the influencers. | ||
| Yeah, um, and he gave platforms and voices to so many of us. | ||
| Um, you know, uh, I've seen your following skyrocket since you're you know teaming up with Charlie and him putting you on stage at America Fest and think about all the different Fox personalities that you know, a lot of these Fox personalities, they had television presence, but they didn't translate to social. | ||
| But Charlie helped them all get onto social, bring them to their conferences, bring them to the events, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And so he he's a massive, he's gonna be a massive void. | ||
| And um, there's not gonna be another person that can do everything that he could do. | ||
| But he inspired so many of us, he helped create and our followings. | ||
| Uh, and so all of us are gonna have to step up. | ||
| And you know, I also think that a lot of the right-wing influencer uh sphere has kind of been uh led astray. | ||
| I think a lot of them are following dollars and cents uh instead of following what is right. | ||
| And and I would like them, uh all of the influencer class, uh, if you want to call it that, to do what Charlie would do. | ||
| Uh, if you know, you don't need to take every deal, you don't need to promote everything. | ||
| Um, don't go against what is right, don't go against your values. | ||
| And I think all of the influencers should uh follow Charlie's lead on that. | ||
| Incredibly profound on that. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I mean, why would you sell yourself out like for like that? | ||
| Like it isn't this movement me more. | ||
| No, you have massive, they do have influence. | ||
| They do have influence. | ||
| And for the first time, you know, it's after the election, all the the mainstream press, they started covering right wing influencers for the first time. | ||
| And they're like, This is terrified. | ||
| They're terrified. | ||
| They're like, this ecosystem came out of nowhere. | ||
| It actually actually hasn't come out of nowhere. | ||
| This has been building for the longer part of a decade. | ||
| Uh, and you guys just started picking up on it. | ||
| But we have a lot of influence now. | ||
| And you leveraged your influence in a good way the other day by getting Jimmy Kimmel held accountable. | ||
| Um, and and that is the influence when you're focused, that's focused influence. | ||
| And and you did a good thing. | ||
| Shilling for, you know, big soda, for an example, you know, saying, Oh, you can't, you know, you the Maha movement shouldn't be able to tell soda companies uh, you know, how big their bowels can be. | ||
| Like, that's not something that you should be using your influence for. | ||
| Um, you know, use it for good things. | ||
| And I think that Charlie did it always the right way. | ||
| Uh, and and I hope all of our friends online do it the right way, but there's a massive void, but it's gonna take people like you to step up, people like ALX to step up, uh, and and all of our our friends in this movement need to do a little bit more. | ||
| And I don't think people understand like the power that you can actually wield. | ||
| We don't have to sit there from the sidelines and chirp. | ||
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Right. | |
| You don't have to be a coward. | ||
| You can go out onto the field and fight. | ||
| And actually, you can be more powerful than Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can cow ABC into doing the decent and moral thing. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they're gonna need to be pushed, they're gonna need to be dragged, kicking and screaming into doing that. | ||
| But you have the power to actually do that. | ||
| And that's my honor to show people to show this movement, that is what we can accomplish. | ||
| Yeah, you did a great thing. | ||
| It's time for us there to be some accountability for some enforcement of standards, but for that to happen, somebody's going to have to lose something. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And ABC's actually um probably gaining something. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They're getting rid of dead weight. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| It's not like we're canceling one of the most popular shows in America. | ||
| Nobody watches Jimmy Kimmel anymore. | ||
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Right. | |
| I asked Chat GPT the other day. | ||
| How many viewers does Jimmy Kimmel get? | ||
| 1.1 million. | ||
| I said, how many in the US? | ||
| Three 30, 32% of 1.1 million. | ||
| So you do the math. | ||
| It's like 300,000 viewers that he gets annual, or you know, each day. | ||
| You get 300,000 viewers on this one stream, probably even more. | ||
| So, you know, Jimmy Kimmel's getting paid tens of millions of dollars uh by this by ABC. | ||
| He provided almost no value. | ||
| You could put, you know, anybody in that role and they would get more viewers than him. | ||
| Ricky Gervais is my vote. | ||
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That'd be good. | |
| Theo Vaughn would be good. | ||
| Tim Dillon would be good. | ||
| Um there's a lot of there's a lot of options that you could put in there that actually get viewership. | ||
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But no, Jimmy Kimmel's a nasty guy. | |
| He hasn't been funny uh forever. | ||
| I don't remember the last time that he made me laugh. | ||
| Uh, you know, and he was a controversial guy. | ||
| He wore black face, he was very demeaning to women. | ||
| Uh, and so I think it was a good thing that ABC got rid of him. | ||
| Um, and you did a good thing by using your power. | ||
| Every right winger should stand up and support what just happened. | ||
| And they shouldn't be afraid of the repercussions. | ||
| You know, I saw this one woman put out a statement saying, you know, the left they should be careful because the left will be in power against the. | ||
| Could you imagine if the left tried to cancel us? | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| These people are like, where have they been living? | ||
| They've been living under a rock for the last 10 years. | ||
| You know, they canceled Aunt Jemima, they they canceled uh you go to California and say there's two genders, you know, Gavin Newsom will throw you in prison. | ||
| So like these people are not free speech warriors. | ||
| And uh and Jimmy Kimmel still has free speech. | ||
| He can go start a podcast, which she probably will do, you know, where all of the failed, you know, Don Lemon started a podcast, he doesn't do so well. | ||
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But Jimmy Kimmel can go and start a podcast. | |
| Substack is waiting. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Substacks waiting, Jimmy. | ||
| So he didn't lose free speech. | ||
| And you know, these clowns are these clowns are needing to be held accountable, and they're being held accountable for the first time, and now they're freaking out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're being held accountable partly because Charlie, I mean, actually, not partly, very much mostly because Charlie showed us the way. | ||
| And Charlie had always wanted to have cultural power for our movement. | ||
| You have you it's fine to have regulatory power, political power ebbs and flows. | ||
| It comes and goes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it changes all the time. | ||
| And it is it is subject to so many outside pressures. | ||
| Cultural power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is the truly dominant force. | ||
| Politics is downstream from culture. | ||
| One of the wisest men who ever worked in this industry, Andrew Breitbart would always say cultural power is where it actually is. | ||
| And they're terrified. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| They're terrified because we reach way behind enemy lines. | ||
| Way up into the diseased temple of Hollywood. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And the high priest of leftism. | ||
| And we were able to deliver a consequence to Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| And that isn't just take away a speech. | ||
| I want to clip this. | ||
| I want Jimmy Kimmel to talk as much as possible. | ||
| Say as many things as possible. | ||
| I want Jimmy Kimmel to have as much speech as he possibly can. | ||
| I'm not against Jimmy Kimmel having speech. | ||
| I want him to have speech. | ||
| He exposes their side and the difference between the men and the animals. | ||
| The reason the difference between decent people and indecent people. | ||
| And I need America to see that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So I don't want Jimmy Kimmel saying, clip it, media matters. | ||
| I want Jimmy Kimmel to have as much speech as I as humanly possible. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But the that is why they're terrified. | ||
| That those used to be intersanctums that were so insulated and protected through institutional power, regulatory power, cultural power. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And we proved that it's all gone. | ||
| That they've at they've brought they brought it to tatters, that there's nothing left, that the man behind the curtain is fake. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's a teeny sad little man who is just trying relevant trying desperately to try and project and fake that they still have relevance. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| If they did, they would be able to push back. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| And that's why Republicans must be strong in this moment. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| They they need to be strong and they need to be courageous. | ||
| And uh people like you give uh people platforms and and uh you know an opportunity to be strong because you know they they'll see that you have their back. | ||
| Um but Charlie had something called uh online power and offline power. | ||
| A lot of people uh online don't have the the offline, you know. | ||
| Charlie would go to these college campuses, these frat parties. | ||
| My younger brother, for example, he sent me uh a picture. | ||
| He was doing sideline reporting at the you know uh uh Wisconsin Badgers football game. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was on the field, the Wisconsin Badgers football game, throwing MAGA hats into the crowd. | ||
| And then after the game, he walked by frat houses, frat parties, throwing Mega Cats, and they're like with the milk boys. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, and people like, hey, that's Charlie Kirk, that's Charlie. | ||
| Like people knew him on the streets, and there's a lot of people on social media with a big following that you know, you go walk on the street, you nobody will ever recognize you, and that's okay too. | ||
| But Charlie had a unique virtually every member of Congress, right? | ||
| Virtually every senator and every member of Congress, right? | ||
| And one of the saddest things, I'm not trying to put him on blast, maybe I am, is John Cornen. | ||
| He's a senator, you know, allegedly very famous from Texas, you know, very important senator, John Cornyn. | ||
| And I watched that doofus, I don't have anything personally against him. | ||
| I've never even met him, right? | ||
| I don't really want to. | ||
| He's attacked me a couple times on you know, his teams attacked me on social media before, but whatever, you know. | ||
| I watched that dude wander around the RNC because we just happened to be the same area together. | ||
| I watched that dude like wander around the RNC and like people were like shut, people were like, What is he? | ||
| You know, get out of my way, like nobody recognized him. | ||
| He's been a senator since eternity, you know, since Kingdom come, revolutionary war. | ||
| He's from Texas. | ||
| So you'd assume that a Texas senator who's in his like 20th term would have some gravitas at the RNC, and everyone's like shoving him aside, right? | ||
| Yeah, we're doing our show, Charlie's live on our stream with like Terrence Williams, and people are mobbing, right? | ||
| And and John Cornyn is like it's straight up like like elder abuse, right? | ||
| People are like like pushing him aside. | ||
| I think people understand, like that's it's not to be mean to John Cornyn, that's just like a measure of cultural power. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, people were ravenous to just like get around Charlie, yeah, to just be there present when Charlie was like live on the stream. | ||
| True. | ||
| And and I, yeah, out of the corner of my eye, I like to see sad John Cornyn. | ||
| He's and he's like sat at the end of a bar like by himself. | ||
| Yeah, that's that's a sad site. | ||
| That's a no one cared. | ||
| Well, let's be nice. | ||
| You know, that's that's a sad site. | ||
| But no, Charlie had that ability um uh to to take his influence off the internet and into person and in person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Um, and I haven't seen many people be able to do that. | ||
| Yes, uh, you know, I think Tucker's been somebody who's been able to do that. | ||
| I walk I once walked, you know, with Tucker from the RNC, uh, the Sebastian RNC back to his hotel. | ||
| And he was walking by himself. | ||
| I'm like, what the heck are you doing? | ||
| Cooking and he goes, Well, you know, I just want to go for a walk. | ||
| And he stopped and took selfies with every single person, you know. | ||
| And And um, you know, Charlie has that ability. | ||
| Tucker has that ability, obviously, Don. | ||
| Um, but not a lot of people have that. | ||
| And um, you know, I also just want to highlight, like Charlie never he didn't want to run for office. | ||
| He didn't want to run for governor, he wants to run for Congress, Senate, et cetera, because he recognized that that the power now is in what he was doing, being an influencer, being um uh the social media personality and he did it better than anybody in our movement. | ||
| I think he did it better better than anybody uh in in the country. | ||
| Um, and he's definitely gonna be missed. | ||
| Uh we have a we have a big memorial service. | ||
| Since so many people probably will not be able to watch it in person, you know, they're gonna be limited. | ||
| There I I encourage you to come and watch it in person. | ||
| Tyler's saying they want a hundred thousand people here and that they have the capacity for it. | ||
| So please come. | ||
| I do not want to obviously uh encourage anyone to not come to the memorial service, but I think many millions will be watching digitally. | ||
| What can people do? | ||
| What can people do digitally to honor Charlie's legacy? | ||
| Uh to continue through this memorial day and then to continue his mission after. | ||
| Well, I think they're already doing uh something very powerful. | ||
| They're sharing his clips. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A lot of people for the first time are sharing Charlie Kirk Kirk clips. | ||
| They're seeing what Charlie Kirk actually stood for. | ||
| Um, you know, I was just watching um uh the Nelk Boys, they were doing a stream, and they were like, I never really watched Charlie Kirk, and now I'm watching Charlie Kirk, and like this guy didn't say anything crazy. | ||
| This guy was really moderate, he was common sense. | ||
| Yes, uh, and all he wanted to do was have conversations with people and debate people. | ||
| And I think you know, Charlie fortunately gave us so much content, you know. | ||
| I mean, he gave us more content than anybody, you know, could probably possibly do in a hundred years and on on this earth. | ||
| And Charlie, you know, his life was cut short at 31, but he produced hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours of content, probably even more. | ||
| And now you can all go through it and you can share his clips and you can share his message. | ||
| Um, and they're really important messages in there. | ||
| And I think the messages that are most they're getting out the most right now are the messages about faith and family. | ||
| And I think that is something that you know, I learned a lot from him over the years, watching him transfer, you know, transform from a boy to a man. | ||
| It was when he got married to Erica and he started having children. | ||
| Uh and I also saw his demeanor change, his spirit change uh for the better. | ||
| And uh his content started hitting a little bit differently after he got married to Eric and Erica's gonna do a great job uh running Turning Point USA. | ||
| But we can do to honor Charlie is you continue to share his clips, you get active with Turning Point USA, 62,000 new people signed up to start chapters all across the country. | ||
| Um and his legacy is only gonna grow from here. | ||
| I think uh he is the most important civil rights leader of our time, and uh history will look back on him in that way. | ||
| Yes, we very much look forward, ladies and gentlemen, to being there at the memorial service on Sunday. | ||
| A hundred thousand people, Alex will also be there, but you should follow Alex. | ||
| We have his social media. | ||
| You should also follow Trump War Room, please. | ||
| Uh Alex has six hundred and twenty thousand subscribers here on X. You can see this great photo of him with the president Trump there in the Oval Office. | ||
| I need you to update my uh photo on your graphics moving forward. | ||
| A Alex, you're using a picture of me from when I was 21. | ||
| ALX. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Very easy. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Very, very, very easy. | ||
| You just call on over. | ||
| Hey, Alex, you should be in studio more often. | ||
| Yeah, everyone in the chat was very excited about we got super chats about live porch in front of the audience. | ||
| It's like seeing a movie star. | ||
| Look at this super chat from Coke. | ||
| People love seeing a movie star. | ||
| You know, how many people get confused me for this guy, by the way? | ||
| People come up to me, they say, I love your stuff. | ||
| I love your stuff. | ||
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Really? | |
| And they're like, Oh, you're ALX. | ||
| And I'm like, no, I'm Alex Brucewitz, and they go, Oh, I like you too. | ||
| But like people, people love this guy. | ||
| They do love Alex. | ||
| So thanks, Ben. | ||
| It's great seeing you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Be good. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
| An exciting time, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| A moment that uh we are very excited to be sharing with the president of the United States in just a matter of a few Short hours here. | ||
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| We do partner with that brand. | ||
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| The Trump brand is obviously something that has changed our nation forever. | ||
| And well, it's our honor to offer you a chance to take a piece of that home. | ||
| I know that we have hats to give away. | ||
| No, no, no, put it up, Klein. | ||
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| Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are um proud to be here. | ||
| We have a lot of work to do today at Turning Point Headquarters. | ||
| A lot of big things soon to be announced, and a lot of exciting work ahead. | ||
| Uh, we're gonna spend the weekend in quiet reflection and remembrance of Charlie. | ||
| We're gonna honor him. | ||
| That's gonna be it. | ||
| Please join us in that. | ||
| We'll be very active this uh this week, uh, this weekend uh in particular. | ||
| Please join us in uh a word of prayer and a verse of the day here to close out our week from Jeremiah 2011. | ||
| But the Lord is with me as a mighty, awesome one. | ||
| Therefore, my persecutors will stumble and will not prevail. | ||
| You've been seeing a lot of that. | ||
| And you see a lot more of us, and we're thankful for you for sticking with us this week. | ||
| It's been a tough week. | ||
| God has given us the strength, and remember, in the end, we win. | ||
| It's your boy Benny. | ||
| See ya from Turning Point Headquarters. | ||
| The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination, have no idea what they have done. | ||
| They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. | ||
| They should all know this. | ||
| If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. | ||
| You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. | ||
| In this world, you have no idea. | ||
| So I want to tell you that we'll never surrender. | ||
| We never will. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
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The biggest ships in the sea, all owned by the oldest kings, and the dying legacy. | |
| Media till we show come to mind the salt from Lives for fun. | ||
| Be the golden bring the gun. | ||
| We sail for number one. | ||
| We sail for number one. | ||
| So will the penny show come to mine the salt from Lives for fun. | ||
| Leave the gold and bring the gun. | ||
| We sell for number one. |
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