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🚨Trump and Elon Musk Host SHOCK Press Conference LIVE Right Now From White House: 'Get Ready...'
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unidentified
And Fox News alert now.
President Trump speaking this afternoon, pretty soon here, alongside Elon Musk from the Oval Office and applauding the Tesla chief's efforts in cutting waste fraud and abuse for the taxpayer.
That news conference marks the formal end of Musk's time as a special government employee and head of the Department of Government Efficiency.
I'm Jackie Heinrich, in for Harris.
This is the Faulkner Focus.
President Trump teased that Musk will not be going too far.
He posted, this will be his last day, but not really, because he will always be with us, helping all the way.
Elon is terrific.
During Musk's 130 days with Doge, the group reportedly slashed $175 billion in government spending.
That's nearly $1,100 for each U.S. taxpayer.
A few examples of government waste that Musk and Doge rooted out, a grant for alpaca farming in Peru.
A contract with a former Taliban member, a grant for gender equity in Mexico's workplaces, and marketing for pineapple juice in Bahrain.
Miranda Devine reflected on these accomplishments.
miranda devine
He came up against the reality of a very difficult government bureaucracy in a deep state that's still there fighting back.
But he achieved a lot.
It's extremely popular to cut waste and fraud.
And I think his policies and his work will live on.
unidentified
Senior White House correspondent Peter Doocy has more on this for us.
Hey, Peter.
peter doocy
Thanks, Jackie.
And we're told that Elon will soon be gone, but not forgotten, because Doge workers are now working with or working for every cabinet secretary.
karoline leavitt
They'll continue to work with the respective Doge employees who have onboarded as political appointees at all of these agencies.
So surely the mission of Doge will continue, and many Doge employees are now political appointees and employees of our government.
And to the best of my knowledge, all of them intend to stay and continue this important work.
peter doocy
And this is what's going to happen.
According to House Speaker Mike Johnson, the House is eager and ready to act on Doge's findings so we can deliver even more cuts to big government that President Trump wants and the American people demand.
We will do that in two ways.
One, when the White House sends its rescissions package to the House, we will act quickly by passing legislation to codify the cuts.
Two, the House will use the appropriations process to swiftly implement President Trump's 2026 budget.
But there are Democrats in town who are watching Musk leave with glee.
unidentified
Thank you.
It's still lasting today.
We've got seniors that are having a hard time getting through to a Social Security office because of the damage Elon did.
So it's good that he's gone.
It was a short period of time.
But a guy like him could do a lot of damage in a short period of time.
peter doocy
And when you hear that, that's probably as clear a signal as any that some future administrations, depending on which party the president is from, will not have White House doge offices.
unidentified
Well, I, for one, am glad that dog is out of the government.
It seems the visionary human has parted ways with the doggy team.
You know, I commend the president on getting that tail chaser out of the White House, slobbering on the furniture.
It's not like he had a furball's chance of getting the doggy cuts into the funding bills anyway.
peter doocy
so put that catnip in your pipe and smoke it.
benny johnson
you you The joke is that a cat doesn't like the doge.
Got it.
Okay, so we are entitled to father jokes.
Jerry, our meme maker, shoutouts to Jerry in the chat.
Jerry, our meme maker, is a father himself.
So he is entitled, just like I am, to dad jokes.
This is a special privilege, special card that you get when you become a father.
You can make...
Is your refrigerator running?
Why don't you go catch it?
Jokes.
And the cat not liking the doge is a good dad joke.
Well done, Jerry.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be an Elon Musk celebration chat, I guess, today.
We have the White House live.
All we have so far from the two live feeds is the outside of the White House, which looks beautiful today.
It's not raining or searing, seething.
D.C. humidity looks like a very nice day in Washington, D.C. Here's the outside of the White House, ladies and gentlemen.
And then there's another feed with rocket ship footage, which is kind of cool, which might be Elon Musk actually traveling to the White House.
We're not sure.
This is the White House feed, and this is the rocket footage feed.
That's awesome.
Is this Elon Musk on his way to the White House?
We don't know.
We're not sure.
Ladies and gentlemen, Elon Musk bidding farewell.
To Donald Trump and the Trump team.
Elon got fired, says the smooth brains and the morons and the people who you should never trust or listen to.
This isn't true, and we're going to prove it.
A couple of quick things.
Elon Musk joined the Trump administration not as a full-time federal employee, something called a special appointee.
Special government appointees are legally only allowed to work for 130 days out of the year.
And if you go and do just a really quick bit of math and look at when Elon Musk started Doge, which would be when President Trump was sworn into office, it's been 130 days.
Donald Trump passed his 100-day mark earlier in the month and it's been 130 days now.
So Elon Musk is on his legal tender out.
And we feel like perhaps maybe it's all for the best.
The reason why we think that is because He's drawn so much fire and it's not going to end anytime soon.
According to J.D. Vance, Elon Musk is going to stay as an advisor to the White House for the entire term.
In an interview that dropped just this morning.
And again, ladies and gentlemen, we're not going to miss a moment of Trump and Elon Musk live in the Oval Office.
Right now, the holding screens are simply a very long shot of the White House.
So it hasn't started just yet.
Our best production team in the internet is on, locked, and live for us.
Here is J.D. Vance making some news this morning.
Saying, no, no, no, Elon isn't going away at all.
He does have seven multi-trillion dollar companies in his portfolio.
Nobody knows how he stays awake or how Elon does this.
Nobody was quite sure how Trump does it.
But either way, these men were made for each other.
And here's the vice president saying this bromance isn't ending anytime soon.
jd vance
I think what he's done is really incredible.
People sort of forget that when he came into the U.S. government, we had never had a full-scale effort to actually look at, are we spending the American people's dollars wisely?
And he found, in a very short period of time, over $170 billion of waste, fraud, and abuse.
I think there's also an effort by the media to sort of say the Elon era is over, and I think that's actually totally wrong.
Now, he has obviously a day job, and he's got to go back to his day job to run his companies.
But the doge effort will continue.
Elon will continue to be an important advisor for both me and the president.
And most importantly, the job, the job of making the government more efficient, of not wasting people's money, that has to continue.
I think it's one of the most important mandates.
I got it, guys.
benny johnson
Okay, so J.D. Vance is saying that not only is Doge not closing up shop, Doge is continuing.
What Elon Musk has done is deployed those representatives and gotten them full and total, complete back-end technical and strategic data access to every department in the government.
So on some level, Elon Musk is more powerful than ever.
Now, it has been a little bit of a primrose trip down memory lane for all of us watching Elon depart, I suppose, in his official role, meaning...
Was he sleeping inside of the executive office building?
This was what we observed when we were there.
Elon Musk.
There was like the Elon Musk wing of the Eisenhower executive office building where he effectively just slept and lived.
He just worked.
He's the richest man in the world.
The guy's worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
He doesn't have to do this.
He could go just buy Thailand.
Just go buy Thailand.
All of Thailand.
Kick everyone out.
And he could make his own.
He just lived forever.
Like, by himself.
Just go buy a country.
And that's what Elon Musk is.
That's the kind of rich that Elon Musk is.
This is what every other rich person does.
They go and they make life miserable for everyone else.
Right?
The Clintons are rich.
The Obamas are rich.
Bill Gates is rich.
They go and they make life terrible.
Because they just go live on a yacht and live on their private jets.
Or they make life just horrible for the rest of us like Bill Gates does.
Probably Bill Gates being blackmailed by all the Epstein evidence to go do that.
But Reid Hoffman is a good example of that as well.
Also an Epstein client.
Also just taking all of his billions and using it to fund lawfare against Donald Trump.
Assassination attempts and so on.
The point is that these people, like most of these rich people, are like deeply evil.
But Elon Musk has kicked in the door and said, no, no, no, I'm going to instead work seven straight days a week for zero dollars to try and fix the federal government.
Cut waste, fraud, and abuse is such a deeply noble thing that Elon Musk did.
This was all previewed by Elon Musk at a Butler rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
with Donald Trump.
Elon Musk said that he was planning on endorsing Trump anyway at this rally.
Let me resize my screen here in just a second.
He was planning on endorsing President Trump regardless, but the assassination attempt accelerated his decision.
But Elon Musk's arrival at that rally was also just as epic.
We happen to be in the crowd for it.
Man, we did pick the right Trump rallies in 2024.
Hot damn, we picked the right ones to go to.
unidentified
It was just remarkable to see.
benny johnson
It was a historic moment.
Here's Elon Musk previewing why he endorsed President Trump and the thinking behind the Butler rally onstage decisions that he made.
sean hannity
To me, I'm like, what am I going to do?
unidentified
Worry about it?
sean hannity
And, you know, and then culminating in two assassination attempts, which resulted in your endorsement.
unidentified
Well, I was going to do it anyway, but that was a precipitating event.
donald j trump
That speeded it up a little bit.
sean hannity
The day of the assassination.
donald j trump
I didn't know that.
elon musk
Yeah.
I just sped it up, but I was going to do it anyway.
benny johnson
Elon Musk and Donald Trump has been a bromance for the ages.
Here's the famous photo of the two of them.
Backstage at the Butler Rally, Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
The two of them looking out at the rally.
This would be after the rally wrapped.
And after Elon Musk had his epic onstage presence and jumping jacks.
This is pretty awesome.
This is before the rally.
The two of them inside of a barn.
Total animals.
And you'd never seen it before.
And this just spelled doom for the left.
No matter what they were going to try and throw at President Trump in this election, they could change the candidate.
They could change the dynamics of the race.
We're going to make Trump run against a black woman who lies about working at McDonald's.
They aren't going to be able to ever replicate this energy.
We were there in person, and we're so thankful that we were for three.
Very big Elon Musk speeches.
Then we want to go back and take, again, a little memory trip down how exciting this was and how powerful this was.
I've never heard an audience roar louder than during these Elon speeches, man.
These Elon speeches at these Trump rallies were just something else.
It started like this.
It started with Elon Musk doing what can be described as rocket ship jumping jacks on stage during the Butler rally.
And this is that moment, that special moment of Donald Trump.
As the sun is setting, I mean, it's like straight out of a movie.
Donald Trump welcoming Elon Musk to the stage and Elon jumping for joy that Donald Trump is alive.
Again, this is a rally that is taking place on the grave, like essentially over the dead body of his assassin.
Deeply powerful visuals here.
I don't know if we have the actual...
This is what I want to play right now.
Yeah, here we go, guys.
This one.
But it was, which is one of those very special times where you're like, policy is just going to change forever here.
Right?
It's just like, you know, the political game as we know it will never be the same.
And we're going to have a situation.
Here, that's going to be, like, really dynamic.
Boy, were we right.
No one was ready for this.
We saw a bunch of extra security there at the event.
And, well, we weren't prepared for what was going to happen next.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Come here.
Take over, Eli.
Just take over.
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
Let's go from this.
donald j trump
Is the only reason we can now send American astronauts into space.
unidentified
Come here.
donald j trump
Take over, Eli.
unidentified
years take home.
Hi everyone.
*crowd cheers*
As you can see, I'm not just MAGA, I'm dark MAGA.
elon musk
Well, first of all, I want to say what an honor it is to be here.
And, you know, the true test of someone's character is how they behave under fire.
benny johnson
Elon Musk going on to give a great speech.
Let's pull the full.
It's not a long speech.
Let's pull the full speech.
This is a great speech.
Let's go ahead and let's grab that.
This has had a profound effect on the election itself.
This is Elon Musk and the difference that he made.
unidentified
There you go.
benny johnson
Thank you, guys.
This is the difference that Elon Musk made.
It was profound.
The day after he endorsed President Trump, the betting markets said that Kamala Harris was down very bad in Pennsylvania.
This was absolute election.
Musk continued on his role.
Madison Square Garden was the next one.
Madison Square Garden was...
ALX would have to...
ALX was there with me at all of these, but he's going to have to...
Probably the loudest cheer for anyone during the 2024 campaign.
And remember, Kamala Harris got all the celebrities that money can buy.
Lizzo and Diddy and Harvey Weinstein, all of them were endorsing Kamala.
And nobody got the same type of reception, obviously, as Elon inside of Madison Square Garden.
Again, it was just tremendous to be able to witness it live.
Here we go as we, again, if you're just joining us, prepare for Donald Trump and Elon Musk live inside of the Oval Office.
It is 1.54 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
The event was at 1.30, so again, we assume it'll be starting quite soon here.
Here's just the loudest cheer from the 2024 campaign, period.
unidentified
This is what I'm going to praise you, gentlemen.
Give us the greatest capitalists in the history of the United States of America.
Thank you.
benny johnson
So much energy.
You were never going to beat it.
Now, the reason why the audio isn't particularly crisp on this is because that was video that we were taking from our seats.
We went to that rally, and the craziest thing happened.
The Trump campaign went and put us inside of this crazy section that is like a build-out, like a bumper, straight onto the stage.
It was wild.
jd vance
It's really cool.
benny johnson
Sat next to...
You know Terrence.
4G Auto Blow.
There were some big-time rappers that sat with us.
Some, like, other people.
It was really neat.
It was unbelievably neat.
It was an honor.
For us, it was freaking cool to witness Elon at the speech.
Elon Musk, very high energy, at the speech, leading a chant for the entire arena.
The arena went just berserker mode for this.
Oh, Elon Musk and Donald Trump live right now.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
Live just started.
Let's rock and roll.
Here we go.
donald j trump
Live, right?
peter doocy
You told me.
donald j trump
Very charming.
I think you've had a charm.
I think what I'll do, if you don't mind, numbers have just come out, which are rather extraordinary, and I thought I'd play a tape of one of the people who I've respected over the years from, you know, Joe Kiernan and Rick Santelli.
This just came out, and we'll just play that for a second.
rick santelli
Personal income is up eight-tenths, up eight-tenths of a percent.
That is almost triple the expectations.
The income, the income numbers, really, for the first four months of the year, they're stellar.
They're really stellar.
I mean, I could go back and look at the first four months of many different years, really very strong numbers, and you're right.
This administration is criticized for just about everything under the sun.
I've never ever in my lifetime had glimpses into the politics of an administration in the form of transparency like this one.
Why don't we be, you know, give credit where credit is due.
unidentified
I also thought everybody was going to get one last.
Order of imports that were going to be tariffed and they were loading up on things.
How the hell did they already fix the trade, or not fix it, but to cut it in half, that's crazy.
So there wasn't a lot of front loading of things that they needed before the tariffs hit?
rick santelli
Yeah, I'll tell you what, it really does call into question some of the conventional wisdoms.
And, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens next month when we get this number or we see some of the other numbers, like current accounts, see how they fared.
Because I don't know.
I've been watching these numbers a long time.
I don't think I've ever seen the trade deficit cut in half of one month.
donald j trump
Not bad.
Not bad.
unidentified
Come on guys.
donald j trump
I see Howard and Scott are here, so it's great.
If you guys want to stand over here, you might as well.
You're the ones that help reduce those numbers, and it'll only get better.
The tariffs are so important, and that's why we were so happy with the decision yesterday where the tariffs continue, because without the tariffs, our nation would be imperiled.
We would really be imperiled.
I think I can say that with great charity, Scott and Howard.
And so we were very happy to get that decision, that big decision yesterday.
And today it's about a man named Elon, and he's one of the greatest business leaders and innovators the world has ever produced.
He stepped forward to put his very great talents into the service of our nation, and we appreciate it.
And I just want to say that Elon has worked tirelessly helping lead the most sweeping and consequential government reform program in generations.
He's found and his people have found.
He's brought a group of very smart people in and they found things that are pretty unbelievable.
I have to say that the numbers that we're talking about are substantial, but they're going to be very much more substantial with time because many of the things that we're working on right now, we're going to have to remember Elon as we find them, but the numbers could double and triple.
Because many, many things, we don't want to go out with them until we're sure.
But we've found things that are unbelievably stupid and unbelievably bad.
With the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon's delivered a colossal change in the old ways of doing business in Washington.
Doge has installed geniuses with an engineering mindset and unbelievably talented people and computers.
I actually asked Elon one time, what's their primary thing?
They have a lot of primary.
All having to do with being smart.
But he said the thing that they're really the best at is working with computers so that they can't be outsmarted by somebody that's not so honest, that happens to also be good with computers, but not as good as these people.
But the mindset and the senior ranks of every federal department, it's really changed.
And with Elon's guidance, they're helping to detect fraud slash waste and modernize broken and outdated systems.
So, as you know, we're talking about various systems and changing systems.
And, you know, sadly, it takes a long time to do that.
You'll change, let's say, a system at IRS and computerize it properly where the job can be done in one-tenth the time.
But it takes sometimes years to rebuild those systems.
But we've started.
In many cases, we've started.
I will say that this has less to do with Elon, but the air traffic control systems.
We're bidding out to the best companies in the world, those systems right now.
The previous administration was horrible, what they did.
They spent billions and billions of dollars.
And in the end, it didn't even come close to working.
They tried to hook up wire to copper, and it can't be done.
And they just spent billions of dollars and just wasted money.
Actually made the system much worse.
So we're going to get a brand new modern system.
Congress is working with us on that.
And we're going to get it done as quickly as we can.
But it's in the works.
And once it's done, it'll be good for 30 years.
But we have a system that's 48 years old and would have a modern computer hooked into a very outdated computer.
And they don't hook up.
I mean, they didn't hook up.
So after spending billions of dollars, they turned on the system.
And in never any cases, from local to countrywide, they never worked.
More than 75,000 bureaucrats have voluntarily left their taxpayer-funded jobs to come out and really do the job.
Countless wasteful and unnecessary contracts have been terminated.
And you know that we have terminated many, many contracts.
And many contracts, Elon, are right now being looked at.
And it may be six months.
It may be almost a year in some cases.
We're going through procedures.
We're going through courts.
And we'll remember you as we announce billions of dollars of extra waste, fraud, and abuse.
Just as an example, Doge cancelled $101 million for DEI contracts at the Department of Education.
$101 million.
And that was just a small section of the Department of Education.
$59 million for illegal alien hotel rooms in New York City.
And the landlord never made the kind of money that he made in the last $59 million to a hotel in New York City.
$45 million for diversity, equity, and inclusion scholarships in Burma.
Does anyone know about Burma?
$42 million for social and behavioral change in Uganda.
$40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants.
I can say it's $2 billion to Stacey Abrams.
At our environmental movement, there was $100 in the account, and all of a sudden they found $2 billion in the account.
And I assume that's being looked at.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I assume that's being looked at.
Think of that.
$2 billion.
And then Lee will tell you there's another one over there for $20 billion being spent on another environmental.
$20 billion.
Not $20 million, a lot.
Not $200,000, which is a lot.
So think of it, in her case, you have $100, and now all of a sudden she gets hit with an infusion of $2 billion just before I take office.
$20 million for Arab Sesame Street in the Middle East.
Nobody knows what that's all about.
Nobody's been able to find it.
$8 million for making mice transgender.
So they spent $8 million on making mice transgender.
Many of the others, I could sit here all day and read things just like that, but we have other things to do.
So it's much, much more than just that.
We're totally committed to making the doge cuts permanent and stopping much more of the waste in the months that come.
We want to get our great, big, beautiful bill finished and done.
After that, we're going to be, we put some of this into the bill, but most of it's going to come later.
We're going to have it cauterized by Congress.
Affirmed by Congress.
In some cases, we'll make cuts.
In some cases, we'll just use it in a different layer to save the money.
But it's hundreds of billions of dollars.
Doge has also fully modernized the federal retirement process and continues to work very hard on the IRS modernization.
But we're taking that over with Doge.
Many of the Doge people, Elon, are staying behind, too.
So they're not leaving.
And Elon's really not leaving.
He's going to be back and forth, I think.
I have a feeling.
It's his baby, and I think he's going to be doing a lot of things.
But Elon's service to America has been, without comparison in modern history, he's already running one of the most innovative car companies in the world.
You look at his factories and compare them with some of the old factories we have, and it's a big difference.
the most successful space company and I guess in history you would have to say the largest free speech platform on the internet, etc.
I know that very much.
He loves our country.
He comes from another country, a country that's going through trials and tribulations, I would say.
But he's all about the USA and Americans owe him a great debt of gratitude.
So I just want to thank Elon for his time.
Special government employee.
Can you imagine?
They call him an employee, but it's a special government employee for coming and helping us, and he really has changed the mindset of a lot of people.
A lot of people thought, you know, maybe we'll cut 1% or 2% or 3%.
Then they said, well, we can cut a lot more than that, and we're going to do it very surgically.
We're going to continue on the march.
We're making America great again.
When I was in Saudi Arabia, We were in, as you know, three really great countries, predominantly the three.
Qatar was great.
UAE was great.
Saudi Arabia, incredible.
Like, such an incredible experience to be in those three countries.
But the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, and I must tell you, the leaders, the great leaders of the other two that we just mentioned, They all said the same thing, that the United States is the hottest country right now anywhere in the world.
And six months ago, we thought it was dead.
It was like a dead country.
And it would have been a dead country if we didn't have the right result on November 5th.
would have been a horrible horrible situation was going on with the borders with uh transgender for everyone men playing in women's sports and so much more but they were saying And then I played that little clip because that was one person who's respected.
But there were two people because Joe was in that one too.
Joe's a good man.
But that was one group of people saying something about the success of what we've done over the last four months.
They cannot believe it.
In the one case, they said they've never seen anything like it as long as they've been doing what they've been doing.
They've been doing it for a long time.
So I just I want to thank Elon for helping.
And again, you know, the United States right now is the hottest country anywhere in the world.
There's no country as hot.
And we're doing really well.
When I left, we had no wars.
We had no problems.
We defeated ISIS.
We rebuilt our military.
And we had no inflation.
And when I came back, we had a lot of inflation.
We had wars all over the place.
We had the embarrassment in Afghanistan where we gave up.
Billions and billions of dollars of military equipment, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, I believe.
I believe that strongly.
We have Russia with Ukraine.
We had the attack on Israel in October, the horrible attack, October 7th.
Horrible, horrible attack.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
And now we have something where we're really healing a lot of that.
We stopped India and Pakistan from fighting.
I believe that could have turned out into a nuclear disaster.
And I want to thank the leaders of India, the leaders of Pakistan.
We can't trade with people that are shooting at each other and potentially using nuclear weapons.
They're great leaders in those countries.
They understood and they agreed.
And that all stopped.
And we're stopping others from fighting also.
Because ultimately, we can fight better than anybody.
We have the greatest military in the world.
We have the greatest leaders in the world.
We put one of them in charge of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as you know, General Raisin Cain.
And we wiped out ISIS, completely wiped out ISIS in three weeks.
They said it would take five years.
And we did it in three weeks.
And that's the way it is.
but we don't want to have to use our military.
We want to...
And that's the way we're going to have it.
So I just want to thank Elon and all of his people.
Most of those people are staying.
Almost all of them are staying and they're going to be with us.
And you're going to see the results coming long into the future.
Even a year and two years later, you're going to see a lot of the results and those hundreds of billions of dollars are going to be adding up and they're going to continue to add.
It'll be interesting.
It's really interesting to see what the final number is going to be.
But again, Elon gave an incredible service.
Nobody liked him.
And he had to go through the slings and the arrows, which is a shame because he's an incredible patriot.
The good news is that 90% of the country knows that and they appreciate it and they really appreciate what he did.
And I gave him a little special something we have here.
elon musk
Thank you.
donald j trump
A very special that I give to very special people.
I have given it to some.
But it goes to very special people, and I thought I'd give it to Elon as a presentation from our country.
elon musk
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you, Elon.
Take care.
unidentified
Thank you.
The luck of this is amazing.
donald j trump
Large luck.
elon musk
Well, let me say perhaps a few words that this is not the end of Doge, but really the beginning.
My time as a special government employee necessarily had to end.
It was a limited time thing.
It's 134 days, I believe, which ends in a few days.
So that comes with a time limit.
But the Doge team will only grow stronger over time.
The Doge influence will only grow stronger.
I liken it to a sort of Buddhism.
It's like a way of life.
So it is permeating throughout the government.
And I'm confident that over time we'll see a trillion dollars of savings and a trillion dollars of waste and fraud reduction.
The calculations of the Doge team thus far, in terms of an FY25 to FY26 delta, are over $160 billion, and that's climbing.
We expect that number will probably go over $200 billion soon.
So I think the Doge team is doing an incredible job.
They're going to continue doing an incredible job.
And I'll continue to be visiting here and be a friend and advisor to the president.
And I look forward to times being back in this amazing room.
By the way, isn't this incredible?
unidentified
I mean, it's done, I think.
elon musk
The way that the Oval Office, how the president has just completely redone the Oval Office is beautiful.
I love the gold on the ceiling.
donald j trump
That's been there a long time.
That was plaster.
Nobody ever really saw it.
They didn't know the eagle was up there.
We highlighted it.
Essentially, it's a landmark, a great landmark.
That's 24-karat gold.
Everybody loved it.
Now they all see it when they come in.
It's been good.
elon musk
The Oval Office finally has the majesty that it deserves, thanks to the President.
So I look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor to the President, continuing to support the Doge team, and we are relentlessly pursuing a trillion dollars in waste and fraud reductions, which will benefit the American taxpayer.
So that's it, really.
Thank you, Mr. President.
donald j trump
Thank you.
peter doocy
Thank you, President Trump.
The President mentioned that you had to deal with all the slings and arrows during your time at Doge.
unidentified
Some of the media focalizations in this room were the slingers.
elon musk
There is a New York Times report today that accuses you of blurring the line between Is it the same organization?
peter doocy
I think it is.
elon musk
I think the judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russiagate hoax, and that they might have to give back that Pulitzer Prize.
That New York Times?
Let's move on.
peter doocy
Okay, then, next question.
I got one for President Trump.
President Trump, Biden aides who used to work here are in talks with Do you think that Dr. Jill Biden should also have to come in and testify about what she did or didn't do?
donald j trump
Well, I hate the concept of it.
It's the wife of...
And I guess it came out during the debate loud and clear.
unidentified
That was the biggest signal of all.
donald j trump
They have to do what's right.
The country was a lot of dishonesty in the election, as you know, 2020.
That's been now caught.
People understand it was a rigged election.
And when you go further out, when you see the auto pen, I mean, I think the auto pen is going to become one of the great scandals of all time because you have somebody operating it or a number of people operating.
Because I knew Joe Biden.
Joe Biden wasn't in favor of opening up orders, letting 21 million people into this from prisons and mental institutions and gang members.
He wasn't into that at all.
And, you know, who signed these?
Orders, proclamations, and all of the different things that he signed that set our country so far back, that was so bad for our country.
peter doocy
With the auto pen, how would it work?
Like, we're in the Oval Office right now.
If there was a group of rogue staffers that worked for you, who wanted to advance a bill or an executive order without your knowledge, how could they do it?
How do they know?
donald j trump
Because I'd read your newspapers or your media the next day and I'd say, well, I didn't approve that and I would find it.
I mean, they wouldn't get away with it for long because I'd say, I never signed that.
Who the hell signed that?
Auto pens, to me, are used to sign letters to people because we get, I think they said, 20,000 letters a week and you like to be able, when somebody takes the time to write a letter, it's nice to sort of write back.
And auto pens are meant for That auto pens are not meant to sign major proclamations or tax cuts or borders, anything having to do with the border, which is so important.
And if it happened on my watch, I would be able to see it because the next day or sooner I'd be reading about something that I knew nothing about and who the hell signed this.
So I almost never used the auto pen.
In fact, yesterday I was signing about 81, I think it was 81 proclamations.
Statements to people that I think should be signed by us.
I think when you write letters to foreign dignitaries or presidents or prime ministers, you should be signing those letters.
Not done with auto pens.
I understand he signed almost everything with an auto pen.
It's a very dangerous thing.
It really means you're not president.
Whoever operated the auto pen, and we think we know who that is, and it was actually more than one person, but that's not what...
unidentified
I hardly use the tariffs on China.
You said that they violated the agreement with the U.S. Well, they did.
donald j trump
They violated a big part of the agreement we made.
If you read that whole statement, I was very nice to them.
I helped them because they were in trouble with the stoppage of a massive amount of business.
But I'm sure that I'll speak to President Xi.
Hopefully we'll work that out.
Yeah, there's a violation of the agreement.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
President, can you give us an update to the latest ceasefire agreement that Israel has agreed to, but Hamas is still considering?
donald j trump
Well, they're very close to an agreement on Gaza, and we'll let you know about it during the day or maybe tomorrow, and we have a chance of that.
I think we have a chance of making a deal with Iran also.
They don't want to be blown up.
They would rather make a deal.
And I think that could happen in the not-too-distant future.
That would be a great thing.
If we could have a deal without bombs being dropped all over the Middle East, that would be a very good thing.
They can't have a nuclear weapon.
We want them to be safe.
We want them to have a very, very successful nation.
Let it be a great nation, but they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
It's very simple.
And I think we're fairly close to a deal with Iran.
unidentified
You said just now that you look forward to being a friend and advisor to the president.
So do you expect to continue advising the president and Doge informally, or are you going to sort of shift your focus entirely to your companies?
elon musk
Well, I expect to continue to provide advice whenever the president would like.
donald j trump
I hope so.
elon musk
I mean, yeah, I expect to remain a...
unidentified
On Doge, you said that there was a trillion dollar promise for cuts from Doge.
elon musk
Yes, I think we do expect over time to achieve the trillion dollars.
unidentified
But what have you found in your time here was the biggest roadblock to getting those cuts?
Was it the cabinet or was it Congress or something else?
What was the biggest roadblock from your work?
elon musk
It's mostly just a lot of hard work.
It's really not any one person or Congress.
It's going through really millions of line items and saying, does each one of them make sense or does not make sense?
Obviously, at times when you cut expenses, those who are receiving the money, whether they're receiving that money legitimately or not, they do complain.
And you're not going to hear someone confessing that they received money inappropriately.
Never.
They're going to always say that they receive money appropriately for an important cause, naturally.
That's what you'd expect.
It's just a lot of work going through the vast expenses of the federal government and just really asking questions.
What's this money for?
Are you sure it's actually being used well?
Many times we can't even find anyone who defends it.
So for a lot of expenses, there is actually no defender at all.
And then we have to just work through the process of stopping the spending where there's often literally no defender.
Nobody even knows why the money is being spent.
It's truly absurd.
I mean, we find situations where there are millions of software licenses with zero people using them.
Zero.
Exactly.
This is the quizzical expression.
Surely, if there's millions of software licenses, someone should be using them.
No, and then we've got to go through the process of saying, okay, look, if no one's using the software, we need to terminate this software license agreement.
That's everywhere.
unidentified
Mr. Musk, what do you think would be easier, colonizing Mars or making the government efficient?
elon musk
It's a tough call, but I think colonizing Mars and making life multi-planetary is harder.
And as I said, we do expect to achieve over time.
We can't do it in like a few months, but if you say by the, I think the official end of those, which the President may choose to extend, is the middle of next year.
Say by the middle of next year, with the support of the President and Congress, could we achieve a trillion dollars of savings?
I think so.
We're on track to do so.
unidentified
Do you have faith that Congress has been You had mentioned earlier in the week that Doge had become a whipping boy, and as the president mentioned, you went through a lot to go through this process.
Was it worth it for you, and what would you change?
elon musk
Yes, so what we found was happening was that if there were any cuts anywhere, then people would assume that was done by Doge.
And so we became essentially the Doge bogeyman.
Where, you know, any cut anywhere would be ascribed to Doge.
You know, a friend of mine's daughter, who's at law school at Georgetown, thought that Doge had cut the Senate, you know, the legal internships for the Senate.
And we have nothing to do with that.
So if they have been cut, there's a lot to do with us, just as an example.
So, you know, it just became a bit ridiculous where anything, any cut anywhere was somehow Doge.
Yeah, including things that made no sense.
And we would agree it made no sense.
So there are many things that occur in the government because it's the banal evil of bureaucracy.
It's sort of the, frankly, largely uncaring nature of bureaucracy.
As the Great Milton Friedman said, money is spent most poorly when it is someone else's money being spent on people you don't know.
And that's how federal spending is.
And then you can't really even blame the individuals because the way the government works is complaint minimization.
So when you do try to, when someone within the government tries to stop that money being spent, there's usually someone that complains.
And then their manager will say it's not worth the trouble.
Just pay it anyway.
That happens over and over again.
I think it was an important thing.
I think it was a necessary thing, and I think we'll have a good effect in the future.
peter doocy
Thank you, President Trump.
This week, there was a video on board a plane that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband, Emmanuel Macron.
Do you have any world leader-to-world leader marital advice?
unidentified
Make sure the door remains closed.
donald j trump
That was not good.
No, I spoke to him.
He's fine.
They're fine.
They're two really good people.
I know them very well.
unidentified
I don't know what that was all about, but I know them very well.
donald j trump
They're fine.
peter doocy
What do you think about this Democratic Party plan to avoid being swept in every battleground state again?
$20 million to study how to speak to American men.
donald j trump
You know, they spent $2.8 billion.
We spent $1.5 billion.
We spent much less.
We spent about half of what they spent.
And at the end, they were $28 million short.
They had to be...
It's a lot, but they couldn't get 28 million at the end, and now they want to spend They want to spend money to learn how to talk.
That's fake.
You don't want to be fake.
You shouldn't have to hire consultants to say what America needs, because then they should be, the consultants should be running the deal, not them.
But I read that they want to spend a lot of money in each state.
So we want all seven swing states, seven out of seven.
We want a lot more than that.
We want the popular vote.
We want everything.
And they want to spend money to find out what they did wrong.
And I mean, I can tell you what they did wrong.
I can tell you every one of their programs.
When they say men playing in women's sports, I would say that's not a winner.
When they say transgender for everybody, I think that's not a winner.
When they say open borders so the entire world population of criminals can pour into our country, I don't think that's a winner.
I just gave them that for free.
But I don't know if they'll change their ways.
I see them all the time.
I see people that I know in Congress, Democrats, they're trying to judge.
You can't justify them.
I always hear they're 80-20 issues.
I say they're not 80-20, they're 97-3.
They might be 99-1.
They're not 80-20.
They wish they were 80-20.
And they're wasting a lot of money if they're going to continue with that nonsense.
peter doocy
And this one's a little bit more of a page six question, but back when you hosted The Apprentice, you mentioned once in 2012 that Diddy was a good friend of yours back then.
He has since found himself in some very serious legal trouble.
Would you ever consider pardoning him?
donald j trump
Well, nobody's asked.
You had to be the one to ask, Peter, but nobody's asked.
But I know people are thinking about it.
I know they're thinking about it.
I think people have been very close to asking.
First of all, I'd look at what's happening, and I haven't been watching it too closely, although it's certainly getting a lot of coverage.
I haven't seen him.
I haven't spoken to him in years.
He used to really like me a lot, but I think when I ran for politics, sort of that relationship busted up from what I read.
I don't know.
He didn't tell me that, but I'd read some little bit nasty statements in the paper all of a sudden.
You know, it's different.
You become a much different person when you run for politics, and you do what's right.
I could do other things, and I'm sure he'd like me, and I'm sure other people would like me, but it wouldn't be as good for our country.
As we said, our country's doing really well because of what we're doing.
So I can't, it's not a popularity contest.
So, I don't know.
I would certainly look at the facts.
If I think somebody was mistreated, whether they like me or don't like me, it wouldn't have any impact on me.
unidentified
Mr. President, on the Big Beautiful Bill, would you like to see the Senate build in some support for your tariffs on the Big Beautiful Bill, or should that be a standalone bill?
donald j trump
I have great support on the tariffs.
I mean, I was so honored that we got that ridiculous stay lifted because that would have taken away presidential.
It would have taken away everything that was granted by the founders.
It would have been a terrible thing.
And it would have, most importantly, it would have left us vulnerable.
We have a lot of countries that use tariffs on us and use them viciously, actually, viciously.
And if we didn't have the power to use tariffs on them, and instantly, not when you go back to Congress and try and get hundreds of people to agree on something, that would take months to get just one simple proclamation.
If we didn't have the power to counteract their powers, you wouldn't have a country left.
We have to act fast.
We have to be fast and nimble, as they say.
And that was a really great moment, I think, yesterday when that stay was lifted.
And hopefully now we'll go to court and just win that battle.
Because if we don't have the power to do what they're doing to us, we are going to be a great nation no longer.
unidentified
Elon Musk was once idolized by folks on the left in this country before joining your administration.
Now he's considered a hero by conservatives.
Why do you think this man, what he's done in American life, has been so politicized?
donald j trump
His life has been amazing.
When I look at so many different things, I look at that rocket being guided back into position.
I've never seen that before.
I thought it was a space movie.
I thought it was a movie.
You look at what he's done in terms of communication, it's been unbelievable.
So many different, even tunnels going underground, not having to go through all the process of going, you know, he's got a company that does that.
He's got so many different companies.
Starlink, as an example.
He saved a lot of lives, probably hundreds of lives in North Carolina.
I don't even know if you remember, but I called you.
They needed Starlink in North Carolina.
And I didn't know what the hell Starlink was.
I said, what is it?
Who owns it?
He said, do you know Elon Musk?
I said, yeah, I happen to know the gentleman.
This was before his government stayed.
And they said, we really need it because North Carolina literally became an island.
People had no communication.
They had no access to anything.
And they were dying.
And I called up Elon.
And you can't get it because it's so successful.
It's very hard to get.
And he had so much of it brought over there.
And they told me it was unbelievable.
It saved a lot of lives.
So, you know.
He's just done a lot of things.
Frankly, I don't think he gets credit for what he's done.
And he's a very good person, too.
You know what?
If he wasn't a good person, but he did the same things, I'd probably maybe speak differently.
He happens to be a really good person.
Who loves the country?
unidentified
One big, beautiful bill.
You had indicated this week that there were some things you didn't like about what had passed in the House.
What changes do you want to see the Senate make?
And you had also indicated there were things you didn't like about the bill.
What would you be suggesting he push senators to change in their version?
donald j trump
Well, I'll tell you, I'll go first.
It's an unbelievable bill.
It cuts your deficits.
It cuts, you know, it's a huge cutting.
But the things I'd like to see maybe cut a little bit more, I'd like to see a bigger cut in taxes.
It's going to be the largest tax decrease or cut in the history of our country.
I'd like to see it get down to an even lower number.
I was shooting for a slightly lower number.
I would have liked to have done that.
But with all of that being said, when you look at the tax cut and the fact that The original tax cut, which made us so successful.
We had the most successful four years in the history of our country, the economy.
And this is going to be even better.
And you see that by the reports that came out just yesterday or tonight.
I guess they were released this morning at 8 o 'clock.
you see the kind of numbers where somebody that's a pro is like, whoa, I haven't seen numbers like this since I've been doing this.
You know, these are human emotions of professionals that have never seen numbers like The bill is a great bill.
It's going to be jigging around a little bit.
It's going to be negotiated with the Senate, with the House.
But the end result is it extends the Trump tax cuts.
If it doesn't get approved, you'll have a 68% tax increase.
You're going to go up 68%.
That's a number that nobody's ever heard of before.
You'll have a massive tax increase.
If it does get approved, You'll have a large tax cut, the largest we've ever had, when you add the past tax cuts that we got you, the Trump tax.
They call them the Trump tax cuts.
It's an amazing bill.
It does amazing things.
With all of that, it's going to be adjusted a little bit over the next coming weeks, and I think it's going to be passed.
The Republicans want to pass it.
With all of the great things it does, including an extension of debt, it's the extension.
We have to extend the debt.
If we don't extend debt, we're in default.
Now, the Democrats might like our country to be in default, but in 250 years, we've never been in default.
That was handed to them by a very well-meaning man that gave it to them because he thought it was the right thing to do.
It could have been their problem before the election, but this man thought it was the right thing to do, and he was well-meaning.
I don't hold anything against him for that, but that was put on our plate.
When it should have been on the Democrats, September 28th, a famous date.
It should have been taken care of by the Democrats.
But this person, a man of power, gave it to us so that in June that comes due.
Well, we have to take care of that because if we don't take care of it, we have a country in default and we don't ever want to have a country in default.
You know, I'll tell you, a certain senator, Elizabeth Warren, said, That she would never, ever allow a default on our debt.
She would never let it happen.
And she would like to get rid of the debt ceiling, what's called the debt ceiling.
I call it the debt extension because we really need an extension.
That she'd like to see that gotten rid of.
And there are many people that agree.
Many Democrats agree with that, but we gave that through He did it well, meaning they gave that to us.
It was a Democrat problem just before the election.
Would have had a huge impact on the election.
And to our benefit, we won anyway, but to our benefit.
But felt that really for the good of the country, we should extend that.
But Elizabeth Warren and various other people would like to see that.
Her whole career, she wanted to see it terminated, gotten rid of, not being voted on every five years or ten years.
And the reason was because it's so catastrophic for our country.
And I always agreed with her.
That was one thing I agreed with her on.
Now, I haven't spoken to her, but I would say that if you asked her that question now, she'd say, no, no, it's their problem.
But it's a very unfortunate situation.
It's a very unfair situation.
And she happened to be right on that.
It should be gotten rid of, or it should simply be extended.
But that's one of the things that gets taken care of in this bill.
That automatically gets extended for a four-year period, and it should be.
But I agree with Elizabeth Warren on that.
I think you should get rid of it.
It's too catastrophic.
Yeah, please, go ahead.
unidentified
What message do you like to send to international students?
Are they still welcomed to study in the United States?
And one question for Mr. Musk.
donald j trump
To students?
Well, we want to have great students here.
We just don't want students that are causing trouble.
We want to have students.
I want to have foreign students.
I think Harvard That's a lot.
Our country has given $5 billion plus to Harvard over a short period of time.
Nobody knew that.
We found that out.
I wouldn't say that was a doge thing, but we found that out over a period of time.
That was sort of a Trump thing.
We ended up in litigation for other reasons because they're very anti-Semitic.
And in finding out and in going through the books, we found out that the country gave them And we're having it out with them, and let's see what happens.
I think we have a very good...
It's a case we win.
We can't lose that case, because we have the right to make grants.
We're not going to make any grants like that.
But I don't think Harvard's been acting very nicely.
I think Columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem.
They've acted very well.
And there are other institutions, too, that are acting.
But Harvard's trying to be...
And all that happens is every three days we find another $100 million that was given.
Last two days ago we found $200 million more.
The money's given to them like gravy.
I'd like to see the money go to trade schools where people learn how to fix motors and engines, where people learn how to build rocket ships.
Because, you know, somebody has to build those rocket ships.
And I'd like to see trade schools set up because you could take $5 billion plus $100,000.
And you could have the greatest trade school system anywhere in the world.
And that's what we need, to build his rockets and robots and things that he's doing, and to build lots of other things.
And, you know, I went to school with people.
In some cases, they weren't good students, but they could fix the engine of a car better than anybody I've ever seen.
They could take it apart blindfolded.
They had an ability at that.
And they did very well.
They made a lot of money.
You know, it's a very skilled job.
It's great.
But I'd like to see a lot of money going into trade schools.
I've always felt that.
And we probably found our pot of gold, and that's what's been wasted at places like Harvard.
And the money's been wasted.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
I wanted to ask quickly, Mr. Musk, is your eye okay?
What happened to your eye?
I noticed there was a blues thing.
elon musk
Well, it wasn't anywhere near France.
unidentified
What does that mean?
donald j trump
I didn't notice it.
elon musk
I was just forcing him around with little X, and I said, "Go ahead, punch me in the face," and he did.
Turns out even a five-year-old punching you in the face, actually.
donald j trump
That was X that did?
X could do it.
If you knew X. I saw his mom right now.
elon musk
But I didn't really feel much at the time, and I guess it bruises up.
unidentified
I didn't notice it, actually.
peter doocy
I know that you try to stay pretty neutral because not your war.
donald j trump
By the way, not my war.
I just want to solve the problem for people.
This was not a war that was going to happen if I were president.
peter doocy
Right, and so not your war, but as you try to fix it and as you survey this hellscape of the Ukrainian front lines and you guys, you and your team deal with a very stubborn Vladimir Putin.
donald j trump
And Zelensky.
peter doocy
But do you look at this conflict any differently now?
Do you look at this and see Putin as the good guy or the bad guy?
donald j trump
So, I've known him very well.
And I went through a lot of things with him because Russia was, you know, the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
Turned out to be a total hoax.
New York Times, they got a Pulitzer Prize.
They have to give back the Pulitzer Prize.
That's my lawsuit.
And they're doing very poorly in that lawsuit.
They wrote stories about how it was true and it was false.
A lot of Washington Post also.
I have gotten to see things that I was very surprised at.
Rockets being shot into cities like Kiev during a negotiation that I felt was maybe very close to ending.
We were going to solve a problem and then all of a sudden rockets got shot into a couple of cities and people died.
I saw things that I was surprised at.
And I don't like being surprised.
So I'm very disappointed in that way.
With that being said, I'd like to see it end.
5,000 people, I think the number's even more than that, but 5,000 people a week are being killed.
Mostly soldiers, but also people that live in little cities and towns throughout Ukraine.
And I'd like to see that stop.
peter doocy
And I asked Caroline this yesterday, but I want to ask you, So many of the things that you're trying to do are held up in court right now.
If the courts are going to have so much influence over U.S. policy, do you wish you would have just become a judge instead?
donald j trump
Yeah, well, look, it wasn't meant to be that way.
If you look at the founders, the president had certain powers, and you have your three groups, and they all had supposed to be pretty equal powers.
But you can't have a judge in Boston.
Running foreign policy in places all over the country because he's got a liberal bent or he's a radical left person.
That's what the executive branch is for.
You have checks and balances.
But we had millions of people pour into our country.
Many, many criminals poured into our country.
Murderers.
mental institutions from all over the world being emptied out into our country.
And if we don't get them out and get them out quickly, we're going to...
This is a bad, that anybody would allow this to happen to our country.
You know, with all of the things, we took over inflation, we took over some wars, we took over a lot of problems that didn't exist when I was president.
None of it existed.
We wiped out ISIS.
Other than that, we had no wars.
Putin was never going to hit Ukraine.
Israel would have never been attacked.
That attack, as you know, Iran had no money.
They didn't have money for Hamas.
They didn't have money for Hezbollah.
They had no money whatsoever.
That wasn't going to happen.
All of these things that happened weren't going to happen.
You wouldn't have had inflation.
So it's very sad when I came back.
But the thing that is the hardest is that they allowed 21 million people into our country.
And many of those people are stone cold criminals.
They moved their criminal population into the United States.
Of all the things that, you know, are bad, I solved inflation, I believe, already.
I got the fuel prices down.
The fuel prices came down.
That's one of the reasons they screwed up the energy.
They screwed up the cost of gasoline and oil and gas.
And you had tremendous inflation.
But the greatest inflation probably in the history of our country under Biden, and when people said, "Oh, but the economy is over." And the energy brought everything else up.
Energy is the big deal.
But with all of that, we solved that already.
In four months, we solved it.
$1.99, $1.98 gasoline.
first time people have seen that in a long time, since my term.
But the hardest thing to solve is Because remember, these countries are smart.
Their leaders are very street smart.
They're sending the people that they don't want.
They don't want the people that are there, that are law-abiding, that are productive, that are working hard.
They want people that are in jails.
We have them.
They allow them to come in.
And I always look to the other side, like, why would somebody do something?
You know, in business, I try and study, why would they want to do this?
Why would they want to sell it?
Why would they want to buy it?
One thing I can't figure out is, what would an administration, what were they thinking when they allowed millions of people from prisons all over the world, not just from South America, Venezuela, all over the world, from the Congo in Africa?
Hundreds of people, thousands of people from the Congo, rough, rough prisoners from Asia, from Europe, rough parts of Europe.
Why would they allow them to come into our country?
Why would they do that?
It's the one thing I can't figure out.
And I don't believe it was Joe Biden.
I really don't.
I mean, he's been a sort of a moderate person over his lifetime.
Not a smart person.
Somewhat vicious person, I will say.
unidentified
If you feel sorry for him, don't feel so sorry because he's vicious.
donald j trump
What he did with his political opponent and all of the people that he hurt, he hurt a lot of people.
And so I really don't feel sorry for him.
But he wasn't a person that would allow murderers to come into our country.
He wasn't a person that was in favor of transgender for anybody that wanted it.
Take kids out of families, etc., etc.
So I just don't understand why a thing like this, how a thing like this could have been allowed to happen.
Very sad.
It's very sad for our country.
elon musk
I think the fundamental moral flaw of the left is empathy for the criminals and not empathy for the victims.
Empathy for the criminals, but not empathy for the victims.
And there's been way too much of that.
That needs to stop.
To the president's point, there's been immense judicial overreach that is unconstitutional.
That was never intended.
And it's undermining the people's faith in the legal system.
It needs to stop.
It's gone too far.
donald j trump
And just today, we had, just a couple of hours ago, we had a great decision from the Supreme Court, thank goodness.
That was very important.
We had two important decisions yesterday on the tariffs because, again, we have to be able to fight a fair fight with other countries.
Howard, would you say we have to be able to use tariffs to fight people that use tariffs on us?
I mean, if we didn't have that power of tariffs, we would economically be destroyed as a country because they will destroy us.
Other countries will destroy us with unchecked tariffs.
We can check them.
When we have the use, they tried to take that power away from us.
And if you take that power away, we're not going to have a country.
We won't have an economically viable country.
But it's very important on immigration that we be able to get people out without having to go through a long court case.
I mean, it was up to some of these judges, every single one of these millions of people, millions of people, criminals.
Prisoners that were let go from jails because they save a fortune when they did.
They brought them into the United States.
You know what they're saving?
The money they're saving?
But some of the murders, it's very important that we're able to get those people out of here fast, bring them back to their country where they belong.
And those countries take them because if they don't take them, they have to go through the wrath of the United States and they take them.
But we have judges that don't want that to happen.
It's a terrible thing.
That's going through the court system right now, that whole situation.
But when ICE and with Border Patrol, they've done an incredible job.
When they do this incredible job and they capture 100 killers and drug dealers, we can't keep them for years here as we go through trials.
We have to get them out rapidly.
And we know who they are.
We know who they are.
And we're very careful about who they are, but we have to get them out rapidly.
Or again, we're not going to have a country.
unidentified
Okay?
donald j trump
Maybe one or two more.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Are you concerned that tariffs may also affect companies like Tesla, which have parts manufactured of what?
And this is also to you, Mr. Musk?
donald j trump
Well, he's going to end up building his whole car here.
I mean, I thought he built his whole car.
Pretty much he does.
He's got incredible factories.
And like I looked at one in Texas, it's unbelievable.
I know all of the manufacturers will build their parts here, too.
I mean, it used to bother me.
They make a part in Canada, a part in Mexico, a part in Europe, and it's sent all over the place, and nobody knew what the hell was happening.
I think it's ridiculous.
You build a car, make it in America.
And I gave them a little leeway on that, you know, gave them some leeway.
But over the next year, they've got to have the whole thing built in America.
That's what we want.
We want America to buy American-built cars.
unidentified
thank you very much thank you guys thank you guys are you considering thanks guys keep going keep going keep going thank you thanks guys let's go straight out here thank you thanks guys we can come back for the course That was great.
benny johnson
Wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
No, no, no.
benny johnson
Keep the shot.
No?
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
benny johnson
Is that the end?
All right.
They cut it off?
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Sometimes funny stuff happens after the shot, and you never know.
You never know what you're going to get.
It's a great series of questions.
Everything from Diddy to Emmanuel Macron getting mauled in the face.
Elon Musk bodying the New York Times.
Oh, that was fantastic.
Elon Musk did have a black eye.
There's like a little black mark on his eye, and so he said that he was horsing around with his five-year-old.
I can attest, as somebody who almost has a five-year-old, that they are very strong.
And if you get punched in the face by one, you're going to have a black eye.
I have been injured by children before.
I used to coach five-year-old and six-year-old football when I was in D.C. And some of those kids could clobber you.
It was amazing.
So yeah, I mean, this is, of course, the Blue Anon conspiracy theory.
Why does Elon Musk have a black eye?
He and Trump catfighting behind the scenes.
President Trump's answer to the question about France, the leader of France, always make sure the door is closed.
That's good advice.
Good advice.
What a great live.
What a wonderful bro-out and what a wonderful thing to hear that Elon Musk is going to stay in the administration, stay working with President Trump.
When you have some of the world's most powerful people on your side, you cannot lose.
Elon Musk obviously controls everything from low orbit to the future of cars to the future of AI in this country.
And with President Trump in this position and obviously with the world that – Elon Musk is a lot closer in age to J.D. Vance actually than to President Trump.
You're looking at a MAGA movement that we want to carry on for the next hundred years.
And so lock it in and make sure that you create something very durable in this country.
And I want to see Elon Musk a part of it.
Big time.
Nothing but love for Elon Musk.
The only federal employee I've ever been sad to see go.
That's our live for today.
A rowdy one.
Ladies and gentlemen, and maybe we'll do a recap on the stream on Monday of some of our favorite Elon Musk moments.
That was a lot of fun.
Have a great weekend, and it's the greatest country on Earth.
It's your boy, Penny.
See ya.
unidentified
Well, I, for one, am glad that dog is out of the government.
It seems the visionary human has parted ways with the doggy team.
You know, I commend the president on getting that tail chaser out of the White House, slobbering on the furniture.
It's not like he had a furball's chance of getting the doggy cuts into the funding bills anyway, so put that catnip in your pipe and smoke it.
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