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May 27, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson

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🚨PANIC: Kash & Bongino Open FBI Investigation of COKE at Biden White House, J6 Pipe Bomber CAUGHT?

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unidentified		Now taking a second look at some of the biggest unsolved mysteries from the Biden era.
madeleine rivera ▲ ● ▼		Madeline Rivera is live in Washington with more.
		Hey, Maddie.
		Good morning, Ainsley.
		FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino made this announcement on X. There are three cases that he says the agency is looking into.
		The D.C. pipe bombing investigation, the cocaine discovery of the Biden administration's White House, and the leak of the Supreme Court Dobbs case.
		The FBI has yet to identify the suspect who left two pipe bombs near the headquarters of the Republican and Democratic National Committees on January 5, 2021, the night before the riots at the U.S. Capitol.
		There is a $500,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest and conviction.
		In January 2023, the Supreme Court announced its investigators failed to identify the person who leaked a draft of its decision overturning Roe v.
		Wade.
		The court called it one of the worst breaches of trust in its history and a grave attack on the judicial process.
		Protests began almost immediately after the leak, with some demonstrators showing up at And in July 2023, the Secret Service closed its investigation into the discovery of cocaine at the White House.
		The drug was found in a cubby used to store electronic devices and personal devices before entering the West Wing.
		The agency said it was not able to single out a suspect because it did not have enough physical evidence, like fingerprints.
		And surveillance video.
		Bongino says he's requesting briefings on these cases every week and that they are making progress.
unidentified		My son walked up to the lemonade stand and he said to the man running the stand, hey, ba-ba-ba, got a go-hey, ba-ba-ba.
		And the man said, no, without a doubt, if you want some of that, Jack, go to the White House.
		Can I get you your laptop?
		My son said.
		Full stop.
		And then he waddled away.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I watch them late at night in a theater by myself.
		Like on one of those old ticker reels.
		And I'm just popping popcorn.
		I'm just like a single tear goes down my face.
		Just remembering the old times, right?
		The old cartoony times where Hunter Biden went up to a lemonade stand as a duck.
		What are we even doing here?
		Okay, let's lock and load.
		Today is Tuesday, May 27th, 2025.
		It also happens to be my birthday.
		We'll get to that in just a second.
		FBI is reopening a bunch of investigations that we've been covering for years on this program.
		What a wonderful birthday present.
		Macron gets smacked by his wife.
		Another birthday present.
		I have a happy and stable marriage with a happy and stable person.
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		This is eternal happiness.
		Have children and then you're set, okay?
		Rudy Giuliani and Mark Mitchell will be joining the program.
		We have a couple of big-time news pieces to break today.
		My name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show.
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unidentified		Okay.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Let's rock and roll.
		All right.
		So let's just get this out of the way.
		Klein, can you grab that?
		Post from Senator Rick Scott this morning.
		It's on my feed.
		Today marks my last year in my 30s.
		39 today.
		As I've said many, many times, no serious man should ever celebrate his birthday after the age of 21. Some arguing in the producer's chat this morning, Jerry, for instance, arguing that maybe 25 should be the day that you celebrate.
		Based on, I think, insurance rates, if you're a good driver.
		But either way, we want to take this moment to say that the single greatest gift that anybody could ever ask for is a safe and prosperous nation, which is what we said this morning.
		And so what we wish to create and establish here on this program is just that.
		I have four kids, I have a wife and a family, spent the Memorial Day weekend with them.
		And this is the greatest gift that you and I, that we, can build together with some of our friends.
		Some will be joining the program today.
		I'm very much looking forward to asking Rudy about the prison that he built that housed Epstein.
		Nobody knows that prison better.
		That's what we're going to get into with Rudy.
		It's going to be very interesting.
		We're going to break some news with Mark Mitchell as well.
		But anyway, the point is that every single show we have...
		We have the comments now, finally, on screen.
		Okay, there you go.
		And we are thankful.
		Ultimately, we're thankful to be able to do God's work, salt and light, here in this wonderful chat.
		And so we just want to do massive appreciation, gratitude, and shout-outs to you as we build a better country together and a moral and good people leave the country better than they found it.
		So that's what we're going to do.
		Here.
		That's the great gift.
		I do live in Florida.
		It is a wonderful thing to be able to live in a prosperous place that is safe.
		And here we are with my family this past weekend.
		This is my grumpy four-year-old who swam way too much at the pool.
		She is a very good swimmer.
		All right.
		That's the point, isn't it?
		All right.
		So let's lock and load here.
		The purpose of my life is, The continuation of our value system.
		I have a feeling that if you're watching this program, you and I share values.
		And that's like the point of parenthood.
		That's the point of all society.
		Imagine a society where nobody passed on their value system.
		That society collapses in a single generation.
		In fact, that's what every massive collapse of all civilizations do.
		The only way that you continue your...
		The only way you keep any of that going, the Super Bowl, right?
		President Trump's military parade that will be happening in a couple weeks.
		It's going to be very exciting.
		We're going to be there.
		The only way you keep that continuing is to have children and impart your values in them as you raise them, right?
		And so as we join together in this, it's a good thing to acknowledge, one, the parents out there.
		Massive shout out to you, parents, grandparents, young people who want to be parents.
		There's a lot of those at this company, actually.
		And then two, to take a really quick primrose trip down memory lane and see what bad parenting looks like.
		So good parenting, passing on your values.
		Establishing a nation and leaving the nation better than you found it.
		Bad parenting.
		Letting your cokehead kid wander around on the White House balcony.
		Here's Hunter Biden, ladies and gentlemen, just wobbling around on the White House balcony, sniffing and snorting and tapping his face for no reason other than, well, we assume that Hunter's back on the old nose powder, nose candy.
		Here we go.
		This is Hunter Biden.
		Ladies and gentlemen, this was last 4th of July.
		This is what our country was enduring.
	Last 4th of July.
	Hunter Biden, packing his nose, acting like a complete lunatic.
	Look at the other one.
	This other one's crazy.
	Like, he comes walking out like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on?
	What's going on?
	The other one, Klein, please.
	Other Klein, please.
	Ah, ah, ooh, ah, hey, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Oh, boy.
	And we wondered at the time, like, would we ever learn what was happening inside the White House?
	I mean, according to all available sources at this point right now, Hunter Biden was acting like the chief of staff.
	ALX, grab that clip of Tapper.
	Glad that clip of Jake Tapper effectively saying that.
	Boy, we went off on Jake Tapper this past weekend on a Piers Morgan hit.
	But yeah, Jake Tapper was like, listen, everybody at the White House just knew that Hunter Biden was effectively running the place.
	Is that why they were able to find cocaine in three different locations inside of the White House?
	Oh, there's just one baggie and we found it in a cubbyhole.
	That's not true.
	They found little stashes of cocaine all over the White House.
	What the hell was going on there?
	Can anybody explain whose cocaine it was?
	You know, we were just at the White House this past weekend.
	We chilled out with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.
	And we had a great time.
	But let me tell you what happened when I went into the White House.
	When I went into the White House to go meet Pete, we, and more to come on this, we have some very big announcements.
	We're very excited about what we're working on.
	We told you we were cooking.
	We're very excited about what we were cooking.
	We had a great Friday and Thursday at the White House.
	A lot of meetings.
	A lot of interest in this audience.
	A lot of people inside of the White House.
	Very, very impressed with what we're building here.
	You, me, this chat.
	How alive it all is.
	And ladies and gentlemen, Pete Hegseth is just one of those guys.
	But before heading in to meet with Pete Hegseth, I had to do something quite humiliating.
	I just call it what it is.
	It is humiliating.
	I had to stand there on a rubberized mat in front of a cage and I had to put my hands up and I had to let a drug-sniffing dog sniff me.
	That's not just me.
	They didn't single me out.
	This is what happened with everyone at the White House.
	Everybody who's a visitor to the White House residence building It's something that, of course, wouldn't allow you to carry bags of cocaine into the White House.
	These are very mean German shepherds who are snarling and slobbering and sniffing quite aggressively on the other side of the cage.
	Have you been to the White House?
	Then you've experienced this.
	I know that there are members of our staff online right now who can attest this is what you have to do.
	So how in the hell did a baggie, multiple bags, of cocaine get into the White House?
	It really begs the question.
	Who was it?
	Well, if you know anything about White House security, you'll know that, well, that security gets waived for specific protectees.
	If you are someone who has facial recognition, There's a very specific classification.
	It has a red badge when you're going to the White House or no badge.
	But facial recognition, someone who's famous, someone who's the president's family, on facial recognition alone, they will wave you into the White House.
	You'll be able to skip security.
	The only way, conceivably, that anyone gets in with a bag of cocaine in the White House is they are so well-known and so famous That they get waved in.
	Who gets waved in?
	People in motorcades.
	You get brought in a motorcade, you walk out the door and they wave you in.
	This isn't really a hard case to crack, to be quite honest with you.
	This is not like, this is not difficult.
	There are only very few people that can get waved into the White House.
	But that's how it works.
	Again, I had a drug-sniffing dog snarl and slobber on me.
	As I am walking into the White House.
	There's no way that some dude in a tourist group brought a bag of cocaine into the White House.
	It's not possible.
	ALX, do we have Cringe Jean-Pierre saying that?
	If not, let's grab that.
	Cringe Jean-Pierre, back in the day, was like, oh, it was just a tourist group.
	Look at this.
	Look at this photo.
	Here's the cocaine.
unidentified		Oh, it was just a tour group.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Tourist groups don't get access to these little cubbies.
		Tourist groups have to go through the snarling, drug-sniffing dog arrangement.
		Tourist groups can't.
		That's a significant amount of cocaine.
		I've never done cocaine.
		But, like, you're a very popular guy in the club in Miami if you're walking around with that.
		Like, a dog, a dog that's, like, at the end of its rope.
		Like, 15-year-old German Shepherd that can barely stand would be able to sniff that.
unidentified		Okay?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		At the end of their career.
		Honorable, noble dogs.
		Mean-looking dogs.
		I'm gonna tell you, this is good.
		It is, if anything, it is an intimidation practice going into the White House to have a dog do that to you.
		The point is, is that you ain't getting in unless you're a Biden family member.
		Now, we're picking on Hunter.
		But why don't we, like, start at the top?
		Because, you know, there are these really curious videos that pop up from time to time of there being two Bidens.
		Anybody who knows someone who's a drug addict or is on any type of mainline narcotic knows that part of the process Of this drug affecting your bloodstream is that you can't close your eyes.
		You can't blink.
		You're like zoinked out of your mind.
		You might talk a little different.
		You might act a little different.
		You may well become a very different person when you're on a strong enough drug.
		This is the point for these addicts.
		They don't like who they are.
		They're fighting with God.
		Against who God made them.
		It's a real problem in our society all across the spectrum, but let's stay on track here.
		Is Joe Biden the one who is using the cocaine?
		Let's just ask, let's ask the question as though we're playing a game of Clue here, all right?
		Because the big news this weekend was that the FBI is now going to be investigating the cocaine.
		And the FBI knows whose cocaine it is.
		Because a nose was in the cocaine.
		They have DNA, evidence, inside of the coke.
		So, look, really wouldn't be a hard game of clue.
		But here's the best clue that we have.
		That it might be Joe Biden's.
		A clip we love to play.
		We're the only show that ever plays the damn thing.
		But here's proof of there being two Joe Bidens at the White House.
unidentified		Go.
		Be pro-insurrection and pro-cop.
		You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-democracy.
		You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American.
		Donald Trump lacked the courage to act.
		The brave women and men in blue all across this nation should never forget that.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		That's just one clip.
		Got to show the other one.
		Yeah.
		Sorry, Alex.
		You got to grab the back and forth here.
		That's okay.
		Ladies and gentlemen, as we get the actual, I mean, that's one version of Biden.
		But what's important is that you play the back-to-back with Joe Biden in the same suit, in the same place, in the same location, on what I believe is like the same day, and he's a very, very different person.
		Here we go.
unidentified		You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-cop.
		Bringing down gas prices is a big part of the job.
		You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-democracy.
		You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American.
		And here's the good news.
		Gas prices have dropped every day this summer.
		That's more than 40 days in a row.
		Donald Trump lacked courage.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Look at the eyes.
		Look at the pupils.
		You don't even need to hear it.
		Like, it's a different voice.
		I mean, what's the explanation here?
		There are two Joe Bidens.
		Jake Tapper also says this.
		There are two Joe Bidens.
		But, like, you know, I think the better explanation than, like, a rubber skin suit and there being multiple people playing Joe Biden, which, hey, somebody, you know, happy to entertain that.
		Show me the evidence.
		I think the better explanation is that Joe Biden's clearly on something.
		You feel bad picking on him, I guess, a little bit now because we know that he had terminal cancer at the time.
		Who knows what the hell the guy was on?
		Who else could it be?
		Who else could possibly be the cokehead in the White House?
		Because according to Secret Service, well, it was someone in the Biden family, but not who you'd expect.
		That's what we've heard so far.
		Ashley Biden?
		Ashley Biden was on lots of drugs.
		Ashley Biden is somebody who admittedly Was just an addict that completely blitzed out of her mind.
		Here's Ashley Biden.
unidentified		I'm telling you, I'm getting the fuck off, and there's a reason why I'm getting the fuck off, and everyone can either believe it or they cannot believe it.
unidentified		I don't give two fucks that I am telling you.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Mute that.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		What's going on, guys?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Here's Ashley Biden behaving like a complete zoinked-out weirdo.
		Same night.
		Right after this video, they find the cocaine.
		I guess that's like the crazy girl who had a meltdown on the airplane.
		But it's a little profane for the show.
		Thanks.
		But here's Ashley Biden.
		You can see her, like, lurking around, like, touching and grabbing and feeling things.
		And if you're around people who are on mainline narcotics, you know this is something that they do.
		This is something that they're constantly doing.
		Like, look at, look at, she's going crazy.
		Look at her.
		She's going nuts.
		Like rubbing up her father.
		Like, look at this.
		Look at that.
		That's her hand behind Joe.
		That's not Jill.
		This is Ashley.
		You know, again, something to consider.
		Ladies and gentlemen, as soon as they, as soon as that footage of both Hunter and Ashley, like behaving like zoinked out of their freaking minds.
		They found the cocaine.
		The Bidens left right afterwards for Camp David so that Joe Biden could go do his cancer treatment, no doubt, but they were hiding from the American people.
		As soon as this was done, they find the cocaine stashed away in bathrooms, under carpets, behind sinks.
		It's not just in the cubby.
		And then the White House went into panic mode.
		I'm telling you, you can, like there's a lot of, But this is the one, I think, that really broke them.
		They've tried to blame Kamala.
		Now, Kamala has plenty of behaviors, let's just say, that would indicate that she's on something.
		We all know this.
		Based on my observations, I would assume the drugs that Kamala is on comes directly from a box of wine.
		Because that's the way that she acts.
		But Kamala has acted freaking like blitzed out of her mind before.
		Many just assume that she's a childless aunt wine drunk.
		The White House decided they were going to blame Kamala and began to leak that this cocaine was found at a place where only the vice president enters.
		Well, that's unique and not true.
		And so it obviously...
		It's like, this is par for the course, the Biden White House.
		But is this the moment where the official Kamala sabotage and breakdown occurred?
		Remember, at this moment, there hadn't been any debate with Donald Trump.
		There hadn't been any, like, Biden dropping out.
		The real conversation in Washington, D.C. was, is Kamala Harris going to be kicked off the ticket?
		To bring on somebody smarter and more beloved by the American people.
		Now, who that person would be?
		I don't know.
		But this is what the White House tried to do, throwing Kamala under the bus.
unidentified		Kelly, the big change is where this was found.
		It was found, by my observation, in a much more secure place, limited access place, than that West Wing reception area.
		It's still a frequently trafficked place, but And normal people, average people, just can't get in there, even with the entry from the Northwest Gate.
		Well, let me bring you up to date with the reporting that I have.
		What we have learned is that there are, in fact, two West Wing entrances.
		You know that, I know that, but for the benefit of our audience.
		And now the investigation has progressed, and so they're saying the West Executive Entrance, which, as you noted, is closer to the Situation Room and closer to the Navy Mess, where there's the facilities for food and so forth.
		It is also next to West Executive Drive.
		That's where, for example, the Vice President's vehicle is.
		It just happens.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		The cocaine was happened to be found right where the vice president's vehicle was parked.
unidentified		You see?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Kamala.
		Train.
		Thrown.
		But the official report shows that cocaine baggies were found inside the White House.
		Here's the best that our production team can do when establishing a clip of, like, is Kamala drunk or is she on drugs?
		Let's have a listen.
unidentified		We debated out.
		Have good, vigorous debates.
		Have a good fight over policy.
		That's good for democracy.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		That's drunk.
		Okay, that's drunk.
		She's blackout.
		Okay, she's blitzed.
		But in a different way.
		She's not on cocaine.
		But I don't know.
		Show me the evidence.
		They have the evidence.
		This one's so fun.
		Here is actually a harvested urash.
unidentified		We actually do grow it.
		So this is what it looks like when it comes out.
		Do not touch it.
		Do not touch it.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Like a fourth grader.
		They have to like demand that she not touch the, what I assume to be some stupid wind turbine thing.
		I don't know.
		Who knows?
		Who knows?
		All fake.
		The point is that it could be many people inside of the Biden White House and they're Protecting the Bidens.
		What happens next?
		Well, let's read Bongino's post here, and then we'll analyze it.
		Thank you for following this account, allowing us to update you about what we're doing at your FBI.
		A few updates.
		The director and I have most of our incoming reform teams in place by next week.
		That's this week.
		The hiring process can take a bit of time, but we are approaching that finish line.
		This will help us in doubling down on our reform agenda.
		Shortly after swearing in, the director and I evaluated a number of cases of potential public corruption, understandably, have garnered public interest.
		We made the decision to either reopen or push additional resources to investigative attention to these cases.
		These cases are the D.C. pipe bombing investigation, the cocaine discovery in the prior administration's White House, and the leak of the Supreme Court Dobbs case.
		All of these are, of course, incredibly important.
		I receive requested briefings on these cases weekly, and we are making progress.
		If you have any investigative tips on these matters, you may assist us by contacting the FBI.
		The director and I have done only one media interview together, and we decided early on to limit our media footprint overall in order to keep that attention on the work being done.
		There are both positives and negatives to this approach.
		We have chosen to communicate in writing on this platform.
		To fill some of the inevitable information in vacuums, I try and read as much of your feedback as possible, but the workday is busy, and my office is a SCIF, secure facility, with limited phone access, no phone access.
		In response to feedback, positive and negative, from our interview last week, we will be releasing more information which will further clarify answers to some of the questions asked in the interview.
		That means information on January 6th, Jeffrey Epstein, This means information on the Trump assassinations.
		Those are the topics that added the negative feedback or the hot water to Cash and Dan.
		Thank you all for your support.
		God bless America and those who defend her, says Dan Pagino.
		So what's to be made of this?
		He lists the three major cover-ups from the last administration that are the priority.
		Listing them in order.
		DC pipe bombing, the cocaine discovery, the private administration, and the leak of the Supreme Court Dobbs case.
		The cocaine we're leading with because it's the clearest example of cut-and-dry government corruption.
		Cocaine is a Tier 3 substance.
		It's flatly illegal.
		It was probably acquired through an open border and cartel smuggling.
		Most likely, this cocaine can be traced back to some of the most evil and criminal organizations on Earth, and it was brought into the White House.
		Prima facia, if you bring a substance like that into the White House, you could also bring anthrax into the White House.
		You could also bring some type of, you know, something that could explode.
		You could bring something terrible into the White House.
		You could really do harm to the President of the United States.
		It was a massive issue.
		It's not just like...
		There's a huge cover-up going on here because the Secret Service has found DNA on that cocaine baggie.
		That cocaine baggie resides in Quantico, an FBI laboratory.
		Instead of disclosing to the American public whose it was and who should be criminally prosecuted because you're not allowed to have the substance, it's illegal.
		They did a blatant cover-up, and more importantly, Joe Biden, who they were covering up his terminal cancer, collapsed at the debate, and the news cycle was sort of lost on cocaine.
		But Dan Bongino is reopening it.
		It's really important because the way that you watch them squirm at the time, how scared they were that people would start asking questions.
		Listen to cringe Jean Pierre explain a way that.
		Go.
unidentified		I think once and for all, whether or not the cocaine belonged to the Biden family.
karine jean-pierre ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I hear you, but you're asking me a question, so I'm answering it for you.
		And so that's why he said the Hatch Act, so I would, you know, So that's number one.
		So we're not avoiding the question.
		That is not true.
		We've answered this question, litigated this question for the last two days exhaustively.
		You know, there has been some irresponsible reporting about the family, and so I've got to call that out here.
		And I have been very clear.
		I was clear two days ago when talking about this over and over again as I was being asked the question.
		As you know, and media outlets reported this, the Biden family was not here.
		They were not here.
		They were at Camp David.
		They were not here Friday.
		They were not here Saturday.
		They were not here Sunday.
		They were not even here Monday.
		They came back on Tuesday.
		So to ask that question is actually incredibly irresponsible.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		It's good to just go back and watch like what we all lived through.
		It's so important to go back and see like what we were all subjected to.
		Remember this cretinous DEI hire.
		The mop.
		She's lovingly called.
		Cringe Jean Pierre.
		A name we haven't said in months.
		Playing the oldies here.
		Had to straight up.
		Lie.
		And she did lie.
		She lied about where the cocaine was found.
		We have a provable lie here.
		First off, here's the lie.
karine jean-pierre ▲ ● ▼		You know, the Secret Service did a thorough investigation.
		Certainly not going to opine on the investigation.
		Of course, of course we're going to have confidence that they're going to do their jobs and do everything that they can to get to the bottom of this.
		Of course.
		That is something that we have confidence.
		We will always have confidence in that.
		But as you've just stated, we've been briefed on the outcome.
		And in their public statement, as well as the Secret Service have said, you know, there is hundreds of visitors that traveled through this area where the cocaine was found across that weekend.
		And so I'm going to leave it to them for any additional information, but certainly not going to opine on the process here, but we believe it was a thorough investigation.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of visitors, huh?
		Well, that's interesting.
		Let's go ahead to this article, shall we?
		An article that was buried deep.
		Because it did such a great job analyzing what exactly happened here.
		This is a Daily Mail article.
		This is from 13 November.
		First photos reveal cocaine found in White House.
		Images of Baggie in Cubbyhole sparked White House investigation and culprit has still not been found.
		So you can see the cocaine there in the White House.
		But what I find particularly interesting here...
		This was first reported out, and then the White House did everything they possibly could to cover it up.
		Initial reports about the cocaine discovery said it was found in the White House library, and then in the West Wing lobby, then finally in the cubbies near the West exclusive entrance.
		Three different locations.
		Now, we were just at the White House.
		You can see here, in this map of the White House, you're looking at the most exclusive places in the White House.
		The West Wing lobby is just a stone's throw from the Oval Office there.
unidentified		The library is private.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		It's closed off.
		You're not allowed to go there.
		Unless you're on official business.
		You can't just go wander through the White House library.
		And that executive entrance, as we have described and discussed, is used for people that get waved into the White House.
		That are on facial recognition.
		So the FBI has a lot of answering to do.
		Like, exactly how was this cocaine?
		Was it the same cocaine?
		Does it have the same DNA in it?
		Was it the same user?
		Because then that same user wasn't a tourist, as Cringed Jean-Pierre just lied to you there.
		It was clearly a member of the administration with full access to the White House that virtually nobody has.
		You can technically work at the White House, and you don't have any access to these locations.
		I just witnessed it myself.
		People with White House badges who go to work every single day inside the White House that can't go wandering into the West Wing lobby anytime they want.
		The White House library across from the diplomatic reception room.
		Or that executive entrance, which of course has a guard at the front of it.
		The executive entrance.
		There is a massive desk there with an armed guard, member of the Secret Service, who stands there and like checks your bag, checks your credentials.
		Make sure that, I mean, if you're walking to the White House, this is just another hard, hardened entrance.
		So has anybody explained, like, anybody explained why they found, like, how they were able to find cocaine in three different locations hidden in the White House?
		They're lying.
		They're lying to you.
		And they were able to find DNA.
		And then they shut it down.
		It's incredible.
		FBI agents have come on our program and we've done hours.
		We've done thousands of hours on January 6th in the pipe bomber.
		Thousands of hours?
		Yeah, definitely.
		In total.
		We brought on the world's experts on this.
		And the FBI agents...
		It was Garrett O 'Boyle.
		And he said, yeah, I was on the J6 pipe bomber team.
		And we were, like, this close.
		We had someone identified.
		We knew exactly who they were.
		And then Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, and the FBI told us, cut the case.
		No more investigation.
		You're done.
		It's like you're this close.
		You have DNA evidence.
		You know exactly who the bomber is.
		You know exactly whose cocaine it is.
		Kill it!
		This was the operation.
		It should make you enraged.
		Okay.
		To take the sting out of it.
		Here's President Trump.
		Musing.
		Like, whose cocaine was it?
		Really?
		Let's go.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		There's never been a time where we've been closer.
		We're inches away and we have a man that literally can't speak.
		He can't get off a stage.
		The other day he tried to get off a stage.
		Now look.
		I'm up here now.
		There are a lot of people.
		There's a lot of television going crazy.
		There's so much.
		I'm up here.
		But you know, when I'm finished, I'm going to look over there.
		I'm going to see an exit.
		I'm going to look over there.
		I can take that one, that one.
unidentified		And what I can do is walk through the back wall.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		And he turned around.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the other day?
unidentified		Thank you.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		You know what happens?
		After about 20 minutes, the stuff that he's taking wears off.
		So it gets a little groggy.
		Gets a little bit groggy.
		They say, get him off the stage.
		That shit's wearing off, man.
		Get him off.
		No, no, no.
		And I'm sure that the cocaine that they found in the White House, that nobody...
		I'm sure...
		Here, Dad, have a little of this stuff.
		It's going to liven you up a little bit.
		Can you imagine they found a stash that you wouldn't believe and nobody laid claim to it?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		The official line here.
		After 11 days of investigation, DNA evidence and Secret Service whistleblowers saying that it was a member of the Biden family's cocaine is that the Secret Service has closed down their probe without identifying a suspect due to lack of physical evidence and supposed lack of cameras to capture.
		Who may have dropped off the baggie?
		That's total and complete bull!
		Try my hardest not to swear loudly and angrily.
		You have to stand there in front of multiple cameras just to get in.
		You have to get your face scanned.
		You have full biometrics, real ID, all of it.
		There were at least, my wife and I went to the White House.
		My wife and I went to the White House.
		Can you grab them?
		Alex, can you grab that photo of me and Kate and Baby Whitaker?
		So we were there on Thursday in a room with Trump and RFK and like half the cabinet.
		It was freaking awesome.
		I'm going to show you this like happy little photo of us there sort of on the perch of the east wing of the White House, right?
		This photo, to take this photo, there were five different times when my wife and I had to do a full, like, facial scan, biometric scan, five different hardened points of security where our names were checked against a list, then our IDs were run through a system.
		This is, of course, before we had to give our full, you know, full biometrics.
		Where we live, date, birthday, social security number to the White House just ahead of time.
		This is where the drug-sniffing dog had to sniff my newborn.
		Thankfully, he didn't have any, you know, powdered milk.
		And, of course, you have to go through multiple metal detectors.
		Magnanimers.
		You have to, like, roll through that.
		To get to this point in the White House.
		Was like a mousetrap maze of security.
		As I'm recalling it, five different hardened points of security, most of them including full-scan biometrics.
		And the official story out of the White House is that a visitor was able to use a secure and locked cubby.
		That a visitor was able to go within one room of the West Wing.
		Residents of Joe Biden.
		Then a visitor was able to go just down the hall from the Oval Office that no visitors are ever allowed to go into.
		And then a visitor was able to hang out in the library and do blow in the library.
		That's their official line.
		Without ever being on camera.
unidentified		Without ever being on camera.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Okay now.
		That is a massive cover-up.
		This is why Joe Biden pardoned his entire family.
		This, among many other reasons, is why Biden pardoned his whole family.
		That's it.
		The pardons include the cocaine use in the White House.
		But it's still worth dragging these people out and proverbially crucifying them.
		It would be so good to get An understanding of who knew what?
		And maybe there are prosecutions.
		James Comer, on our program, talked about where this evidence was at the time and where it is now.
		I don't believe half the stuff that is told to us by the feds.
		You know, Jamie Comer, head of government oversight, can only tell us what he's been told.
		Jamie Comer saying it's going to be really hard to do this investigation because the FBI, much like power washing the roof after Matthew Thomas Crooks staged a near on-air execution of the president, the FBI has destroyed all of the evidence.
		Interesting.
		Is evidence really ever truly destroyed by the FBI?
		It's a good question here.
		Here's Jamie Comer.
		Okay, so taking a step back and looking at some of the other scandals, what's going to happen with this cocaine in the White House?
		I know you've been on that beat as well.
		Apparently there's DNA.
		Are we going to get a chance to actually look at some of the things that have been covered up over the past four years?
		Because it seems like the cover-up operations have been sweeping in the DOJ.
james comer ▲ ● ▼		You can forget about the cocaine in the White House because they destroyed the cocaine.
		It was in a little plastic dime bag or whatever you call it.
		So, you know, I mean, the potential for fingerprints were really good.
		Then you had all these cameras in the White House.
		Well, somehow it never showed up on any of the cameras, just like it was swept off the cameras or deleted or whatever.
		There's no camera angle that should cover.
		Where that cocaine was sitting when it was found.
		And the plastic bag that contained the cocaine, they destroyed within 24 hours of finding it, the FBI.
		They said they didn't have any technology that could tell any fingerprints, which meant somebody must have walked in in the summer wearing gloves in the White House.
		Did that come up on the video?
		No, nobody with gloves on.
		No fingerprints.
		And we just destroyed the evidence.
		They've got evidence from 100 years ago in safes and filing cabinets in law enforcement agencies affiliated with the FBI.
		But this one now, you know, we had to destroy it.
		They destroyed it in 24 hours.
		So, yeah, that's going to be a successful cover-up.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So who's lying?
		James Comer or Dan Bongino?
		Who's lying here?
		If Dan Bongino is teasing this out, and Dan Bongino, you know, full disclosure, as we've said many times, Dan Bongino is like a mentor to me.
		He's been really sound as somebody to assist in building what we're creating here.
		He's somebody who has, he's an honorable man, is what he is.
		Why would Dan Bongino tease this if there was nothing there?
		If it was all over?
		Why would he tell this to the American people if it was just going to be a massive failure?
		I don't buy it.
		But I'll tell you my take on all of this because I know it's going to get me in trouble.
		They destroyed the footage.
		Well, we've actually seen them do this.
		It's a J6 pipe bomber.
		You can see that they actually slowed down the J6 pipe bomber security footage.
		You can see that they tampered with the evidence.
		They tampered with the actual footage of the pipe bomber.
		So this is definitely on brand.
		What's my take?
		As this plays beside.
		My take is this.
		I'm willing to believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
		I'll have to see the evidence.
		I think it's far more likely that somebody killed him.
		Maybe Jeffrey Epstein paid someone to kill him.
		But you don't snap your own neck falling from a bunk bed with tissue paper around your neck from four feet.
		It just doesn't happen.
		So there's something else there.
		I'm willing to entertain that there was no greater conspiracy with the Trump assassinations.
		That's the contention of Cash and Dan.
		But what's going to have to happen is that we are going to have to apply pressure and get those files released.
		And that will be a good thing.
		Right now, Cash and Dan have access to stuff that we don't.
		Obviously, by design.
		But that shouldn't.
unidentified		Be.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Forever.
		Let it out.
		We've all seen wartime footage.
		We've all seen footage from, you know, Ukraine front lines, October 7th.
		There's gory and horrific footage all over the internet constantly.
		We're adults.
		We can take it.
		Release it!
		Let's see it all.
		The ugliness, the scars, all of it.
		I don't believe that we're being lied to, and I don't believe they're setting themselves up.
		They're not stupid.
		They're not setting themselves up for failure to be dragged and humiliated.
		They're digging in.
		There's more here.
		Since we've done so many hours on the pipe bomber, and since we haven't talked about the cocaine in the White House, we've decided to lead with that.
		The Dobbs decision also should be cut and dry.
		There are not that many people who work at the Supreme Court.
		There are like a handful of people who work at the Supreme Court.
		The individuals who leaked that to the reporter, it's very simple.
		You subpoena those emails.
		You subpoena those records.
		It's going to be very obvious to see who leaked that document.
		And the purpose of that would be what?
		To get a Supreme Court justice killed.
		So this is deadly serious.
		That was in summer of 22. Is that correct?
		Yes.
		They also couldn't figure that one out.
		Couldn't crack the case.
		So all of this is very important.
		Why would Dan Bongino tease all of this if he had nothing?
		If they had nothing?
		They wouldn't do it.
		It's bad politics.
unidentified		It's bad politics.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So we have a lot of faith in this.
		And that faith needs to get some rock-solid footing underneath it.
		And the way that you do that, the way that you restore it all, is to release it.
		And so that's going to be our charge on this program.
		We're not going to call people liars.
		We're not going to lose our minds.
		We're not going to freak out because it's not happening on our timeline.
		We want it to be done right and correctly.
		But we're going to demand all of the evidence.
		And I trust the American public.
		The American public can see it for themselves.
		I don't trust FBI analysts.
		I don't trust CIA analysts.
		I trust the American people.
		And I trust the autists of the internet.
		To go through everything, find fakeries, find the truth, give us the evidence.
		Same thing with the cocaine.
		So that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
		One final thing on this note.
		Well, one final thing on this.
		I checked in with the FBI this weekend.
unidentified		Yeah, good sources.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		You obviously know Cash Patel from being on our program.
		I found an old photo of Cash Patel in my And he was hand-delivering a children's book to my two-year-old at the time.
		Wild photo.
		We'll pop it up on the show tomorrow.
		But the point is, is that we are locked in with the people who are really doing these investigations.
		And they tell us, get ready.
		Like really, really big things are happening and really big things are coming.
		And we believe them.
		They've never lied to us.
		So that's where we're going to stick.
		Okay?
unidentified		All right.
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		But we're gonna, like, hope against hope here.
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		You wouldn't be able to wait in a sauna for that long.
		Most people don't have room for a sauna and saunas at your house.
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		It is a constant grind and so we are fighting.
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		All right, ladies and gentlemen, somebody who comes on the show And is like a very warm blanket to me.
		Is the single most trusted pollster in all of America.
		His name is Mark Mitchell with Rasmussen Reports.
		And he has a historic trend line to talk with us about.
		Breaking right now.
		Mark Mitchell joins the program.
		you you you Mark, top of the morning to you.
		I drink coffee.
		I don't do cocaine.
		I don't know what, you know, gets you going in the morning.
		That's what we've been talking about on the show here.
		Polls, okay.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good numbers.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		That's what gets me going.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's why they didn't have any good polls in the Biden era.
		Maybe that's why they had to resort to something stronger.
		But Mark, you have news for us this morning.
		The floor is yours.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		I said this a couple weeks ago.
		I said I never thought we would see it.
		We've been polling since 2006.
		Every day we've been asking presidential job approval and we've been asking right direction and wrong track.
		Donald Trump's doing pretty well from a presidential approval perspective considering the Biden administration.
		But the right direction number has been the sleeper hit.
		It's been setting records left and right.
		Only now in Trump 2.0 was the very first time we ever had more people who say the country was on the right direction than on the right track.
		And there is this stunner from this morning.
		And this is not some, like, single nightly overnight number.
		This is five nights.
		This is about 2,000 U.S. likely voters.
		So it is a very big and very accurate poll.
		And for the first time in our polling history, a majority of the electorate says the country's headed in the right direction.
		Absolutely stunning.
		Net plus five.
		Never seen anything like that.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
		I have to stop you there.
		Mark, this is the first time ever in Rasmussen's polling?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, going back to 2006.
		The highest we had ever seen before Trump 2.0 was, I believe, 47% tied, 47% right direction, wrong track, net plus zero.
		But in the Trump administration, we broke net plus zero.
		We had net plus one.
		We had net plus four last week.
		And here it is at net plus five.
		And we've never had a 50 handle.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Ever.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Period.
		Going all the way back through the beginning of the Obama administration.
		Going all the way back through Trump one.
		Trump one had some high numbers.
		He set a lot of records back then, too.
		You know, six or seven consecutive weeks above 42. We're at like 17 now.
		So, I mean, this is just something.
		Listen, I'm a public opinion aficionado.
		I'm a pollster.
		I want voters to get more of what they voted for.
		And this looks like the report card for that.
		It looks like they're getting what they voted for.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So the way to interpret these numbers is that you never see numbers this high over the last 20 years.
		Let's say of presidents, like since the year 2000, we've never seen anything above 50%.
		We've never seen anything near that.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		We personally don't have numbers going all the way back through the beginning of Bush.
		I'm sure there were probably some periods prior to 9-11 where the number was pretty high.
		I think everybody was pretty jazzed at the end of Clinton 2.0 because of the surplus and because the economy was doing really well.
		But really, in the modern political era, you just don't see high numbers at all.
		Now, a lot of that's a great financial crisis.
		A lot of that is the concentration of wealth at the top and all of the tyranny that we've seen over the last years.
		Increasingly, worse and worse.
		And I mean, this tracks with every other thing.
		But the reason it's so important, it's because we ask it a lot, everybody asks it, and it's impossible to ignore.
		These numbers and listen, some of the other people in the industry are certainly sandbagging their numbers.
		But if you go look at the RealClearPolitics number, the industry aggregate of right direction, wrong track, not presidential approval, they're actually only about one point away from the high that they had back at the beginning of the Biden administration, which I don't know.
		But they're almost going back to the best that they've ever seen since the beginning of Obama as well.
		So even the industry says that things are going really, really well, but you should probably take it from the only pollster that can actually poll Trump supporters.
		And yeah, this is unprecedented.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So the way to interpret this is, and I think we have like the full, I think this is the aggregate here on real clear polling.
		It's wild.
		Even the aggregate here is showing this massive spike for Trump in the right direction.
		And you're saying that your polling shows them tipping that scale.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		My black line crosses the red line.
		And you'll see in the industry that never happened either in all of their data.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		This goes all the way back to what looks like 2008 or before.
		And so Donald Trump has done it.
		He's flipped the country.
		We're on the right direction.
		So does this mean just Trump voters are saying we're on the right direction?
		Or is Trump bringing people across the line to say, hey, maybe I didn't vote for Trump, but I actually really like his job that he's doing?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, everybody, right?
		Like, I have the breakdowns here.
		There's always going to be some Republicans who say the country's going in the wrong direction, and it's because they're financially not very well off or because their family's falling, whatever personal reasons they have.
		But right track for GOP, 75%.
		That's really high.
		The really good one is for independents.
		It's 45%.
		Independents usually are in the low 20s or 30s for most of Biden's administration.
		We even have 31% of Democrats say the country's headed on the right track.
		And it's kind of a weird situation where you look at some of these other pollsters, again, your Ipsos, your Reuters, all the people we've talked about on your show.
		And you're seeing with them still like 90% Democrat support among Democrats.
		But listen, Trump is the guy that got like all of these union people to come out and support him.
		He got all of these blue voters in the Rust Belt.
		And so I think my numbers reflect what reality really is.
		And it's just been wild how high his approval rating is and how high these numbers are.
		And even 30 to 39-year-olds have been off the chart, super conservative.
		And black approval has been really high and it's down.
		A lot lower than it's been, and it's still 34% black approval for Trump, 39% right track.
		That's crazy for, again, a racial block of voters that have voted 94% Democrat in the past.
		Men are off the charts, loving what they're seeing.
		58% approved and 41% disapproved.
		57% of men say the country's on the right track.
		It's only 44% of women, so the gender divide has been growing.
		But, yeah, wild stuff.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So Trump is doing excellent with men, and if you compare this to the Joe Biden numbers, and I know that you've posted this about a week ago, the Joe Biden job approval numbers were just in a state of collapse throughout the entire presidency.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Is that correct?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is what horrifying, horrifying presidential approval looks like.
		And again, what we're looking at isn't Rasmussen numbers here.
		It's the industry numbers.
		And look, he was underwater essentially 15 points on average according to the industry.
		His entire time.
		The industry says Trump's underwater may be a point, and they freaked out back in the end of April and beginning of May when the entire industry, and again, we talked about it.
		There was an information op to try and tank Trump's numbers for the 100-day mark, but they got down to 7.5 in the RealClearPolitics presidential approval aggregate, and look at Biden just cruising on through at like negative 15. Blew out to negative 20 a couple times.
		I mean, just horrifying.
		And so they weren't running wall-to-wall stories about Biden's approval rating.
		We all know.
		I mean, we all know what it is.
		But it's stunning when you see it like this displayed on a chart.
		They ran this guy.
		They ran this guy.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		They tried to run this guy with terminal cancer, which is like a human rights violation in my personal opinion.
		First off, how depressing and pathetic is the party that that's the best that they have?
		And then two, somebody should be fully criminally investigated for this.
		It's a clear-cut case of elder abuse.
		Here's what Mark posted before President Trump made this historic feat of flipping the approval ratings.
		Like, here we go.
		Here's how close that it's gone.
		Now, that was Biden.
		Right here.
		That massive slump was Biden.
		The wrong direction is red.
		Right direction is black.
		So this is the Biden years.
		Right here.
		These slumps.
		So Donald Trump is now cranking that thing at a much faster and much higher intensity than he did in his first term.
		Because he got very close in his first term.
		Is that what you're saying here?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, even in the industry numbers here that include all of the bad ones, the Trump first administration stands out like a sore thumb.
		You can see it there.
		It's that narrow area just before COVID hit and things went up and down right before that second yellow circle.
		That second yellow circle is the fake euphoria that probably ABC, Washington Post and New York Times and others baked into their polls because they finally got the orange man out.
		I didn't really see a spike like that when Biden came in.
		But immediately, even in their numbers, look at the utter collapse.
		He barely made it to his first fall, and people were chanting FJB in the stadiums.
		And I think that there is, I think, where the country really changed.
		I mean, he did convince a lot of political normies who were watching MSNBC in their masks to come out and vote for the very first time.
		We know about the 2020 election irregularities and all of the mail-in ballots and all that stuff.
		But a lot of people did vote for Joe Biden.
		A lot of people bought into that the adults in the room would come back and cure us all from the chaos of Trump, the artificial chaos, we know.
		And they were completely let down.
		In a horrifying way, they had Afghanistan, right?
		They had the Department of Justice weaponized, like, within the first year.
		They had the Inflation Reduction Act blowing prices through the roof.
		So they trusted in government to solve this problem for them, and the government failed, and you can see it right there on the chart.
		And that's why Trump's in office again, and now the country's like, oh, okay, cool.
		It's working.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So this is the first time, I mean, where are we going from here?
		And Donald Trump has already suffered some wither – I mean pretty much everything that they could possibly throw at him in the kitchen sink.
		I mean I don't want to like – I don't want to hope too much here.
		But it does seem like he's – there's a barrage of bad press and it just isn't working anymore, Mark.
		So where is Trump headed?
		Are we going to see 60 percent like right track?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		This is like he did well on his freshman midterms, OK?
		And we still got – A lot more of this administration to go.
		And the report card is good.
		But the problem is that the exams get harder, right?
		And so I think part of the reason we're seeing the numbers this high is that we got to summer without anything blowing up.
		And people tried to convince people that things were blowing up.
		They didn't.
		And what happens in summer usually is the numbers just kind of drift and everybody chills out.
		And I don't know.
		They'll probably swing all over the place.
		I think there will be some highs.
		I think they're going to try and hit Trump with everything they got coming out of August.
		They did this in 2022.
		They did it with the Dobbs decision, and this is what they did in August of 2017.
		Also, the Russian collusion stuff was really sort of festering all summer, and then it was just wall-to-wall press coverage, and it really did draw some blood for Trump, got his approval rating down into the high 30s, but he clawed it back out into the high 40s.
		I don't think they have anything like that, though.
		That's the problem.
		They've pretty much used everything they have available.
		And so I guess they only have...
		But I also think the message is that things are good right now, but they have a chance to turn south.
		We just polled our first generic ballot of the cycle.
		It was only 1,000 likely voters.
		It's super far out.
		But the Democrats were up one.
		And that's new.
		We've had Republicans up in every single time all the way going back to 22. And so this should be perceived to be a wake-up call to people who understand what voting for Congress means.
		Listen, Congress performed in the generic ballot pretty similarly to Trump in the fall.
		And if Trump's up six in approval right now and the Democrats are up one in the generic ballot, that's a message that Republicans are slipping.
		And so Donald Trump turns out.
		Low propensity voters to vote for him.
		He turns out Democrats and independents who cross over.
		And we saw those special elections and we see what's happening in Congress and the Senate right now.
		And so, I mean, I can imagine they're trying to figure out, well, how do we do good in 2026?
		The answer is don't do what you're doing now.
		Donald Trump is a very...
		This is a very unprecedented presidency.
		We are not seeing an unprecedented Congress right now.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So Congress could F it up?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think a lot of things could, right?
		I mean, you know, World War III, economic black swan, or literally Congress not giving Trump the agenda that he got a mandate for.
		And voters said that, too.
		I mean, we asked Donald Trump.
		I'll pull this up.
		We asked voters.
		I want to get the words exactly right.
		Is Congress delivering on the mandate that the country was given?
		60% of Republicans disagree with that.
		60% of Republicans.
		Now, it wasn't strong disagreement, but that's not where you would want your numbers.
		Every single component of Trump's platform is overwhelmingly popular.
		So what are they doing?
		It's all just the same trading pork over bargaining.
		That's what they're doing, I think.
		No doge cuts.
		Everybody's taking their chance to slow this thing down to get their own special.
		This should have been everything Trump's doing.
		They should be, in my opinion, this is...
		I think a lot of people thought this was an existential election, right?
		And then if the Democrats get back in power, the question I have is, is the 60-vote filibuster rule on the table?
		And if the answer is yes, why is it not on the table now?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So Republicans never have the will to power.
		they never have the capacity to unite the way the Democrats do and to push.
		This is why they're even the, So you're saying Republicans, if they want to keep power in the Senate and the House, they need to get on board, get their asses in gear, and start delivering on Trump's agenda, codifying Trump's agenda.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		And I think that, again, a lot of these big topics, like you talked about leading into my segment, Or what a lot of people are paying attention to, the Epstein stuff, the cocaine cases, like wondering when this information that was promised is coming and when we're going to see action.
		And we've been polling on that as well.
		But the problem is that Congress is just this sort of sleeper in the back.
		And people are going to eventually add up what's going on and draw conclusions.
		and it will be when it's too late.
		But we asked people about...
		This is an important one, too, I wanted to bring up because you were talking about it.
		And the communication there is awful.
		I understand that there's realities that happen in the FBI, but with an extra sentence or two of context, right?
		It could have been delivered a lot different to the American people.
		would have changed the discussion on Twitter a lot, but the Trump administration promised to publish How important is it to get these files out?
		36% say very important.
		31% say somewhat important.
		So that's two-thirds.
		That's pretty good.
		Even Democrats like it.
		But then as a sister question, we said the Trump administration promised to release evidence of widespread coordinated 2020 election fraud.
		But have made little progress.
		How important is it to get this evidence into the public domain?
		47% very important, 24% somewhat, so that's 71%.
		So overwhelmingly, people want election integrity.
		So let's not forget this aspect of institutional trust that was destroyed under Biden, the fact that people thought that this election was going to be stolen, and we haven't really heard anything about that stuff, right?
		And so we have very simple bills that we could pass.
		We could put paper ballots in.
		We could pass the same.
		We could do this stuff, and it's not getting done.
		And the answer from the Senate is going to be, oh, well, it's a 60 vote.
		We can't get it through.
		Okay, we'll make them filibuster for the entire summer a bill about election integrity.
		Let's do that.
		Let's put that on the table.
		Why not?
		Maybe a couple of them will drop dead, and then you'll get more of them.
		I'm just saying, and it's not.
		It's not something that they're going to consider.
		And you know that's what the Democrats do.
		They're very good at the obstruction game and the Republicans, they get in the position.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Just total and complete weakness.
		So, okay, like, listen, if you were going to ride a horse through 2026, final question here, like, where would you rather be right now?
		And I want to preface this by saying I was howling at the New York Times report on Democrats trying to win young men.
		Democrats are wanting to spend billions of dollars to try and win over young men again, a demographic that they have lost spectacularly.
		What's your take on that, Mark?
		Is it possible to bring young men back into the Democrat Party based on your numbers, or is this just another massive slush fund of wasted cash, just like Kamala Harris's $3 billion?
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's grifters trying to just make money off of the horrible situation Democrats are in.
		And let's not forget, I mean, among men, 57% say right track, 58% say approve of Trump.
		Good luck.
		You're not going to win people away from that.
		Men like what they're seeing.
		Mike Cernovich put out a really, really good tweet about how the ambush that Trump did to the leader of South Africa reflected a masculine energy shift in this nation.
		Those kinds of things heavily signal the type of leadership that is expected in the cultural norms.
		I think that's important.
		Listen, here's the thing about the Democrats.
		I would rather be in the Republican shoes, obviously, but...
		They've built trust and they're squandering it.
		The Democrats, listen, those Democrat voters didn't disappear.
		Some of them aren't answering polls.
		Some of them are less political than they were in the COVID era.
		Some of them are reconsidering themselves.
		Some of them probably checked into mental health facilities.
		I don't know.
		But they're still there and they're still going to vote.
		And the problem is Republicans do have a low propensity voter problem.
		It's not very inspiring to vote for an established Republican figure.
		And that's what often gets run is these squishy moderates in purple states.
		So that's a problem for them that they're going to have to figure out how to overcome.
		Now, on the flip side, 2028 is shaping up to be a clown show for the Democrats.
		I mean, this is just slow motion train wreck.
		I don't know.
		I mean, it looks like it's going to be AOC and then they're going to have to pull some game to get her out.
		That's what it looks like where it's going.
		Where they're going to run Kamala Harris again.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So you have an AOC Kamala Harris ticket.
		And then this is the ticket that they're going to win back men with.
		They're going to say, please vote AOC Kamala Harris.
		Kamala Harris AOC.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Well, Bernie will stunt for him.
		Don't forget that.
		You can have an octogenarian on the stunt for him.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		You can be nearly 90 years old.
		Bernie's 85. You can be nearly 90 years old.
		Wild.
		Okay, yeah, what a complete and total clown show.
		All right, well, that's history.
		Mark, you've been predicting it.
		You were the only man who predicted that Trump would win the popular vote.
		You were laughed out of the room.
		You did it on this show many times, and damn it, man, you were right.
		You've been saying Trump would pass this milestone, and you were right.
		And Mark, we're thankful for the crystal ball that you have to predict the future here.
		It's often positive news, and we're thankful for that.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the good news is great.
		Thanks for helping me get the word out.
		We're going to do a lot more of it.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Godspeed, man.
		Look at Mark up past 100,000.
		Blowing past that 105,000.
		Subs, everyone to go follow Mark Mitchell.
		The best pollster in America.
		Godspeed, man.
mark mitchell ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Benny.
unidentified		Thanks, Benny.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		you you you you Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be joined in just a moment by America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who's going to have some interesting things to expand upon when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and his death, murder, suicide.
		What was it exactly?
		Well, it sort of all hinges on the strange circumstances of the case that, of course, the cameras went off in his cell.
		That he wasn't on the right block of a prison where he was supposed to be.
		That he was in a cell with a convicted strangler who was also a bodybuilder.
		Very interesting.
		And then he tried to allegedly kill himself by using the substance about as thin as tissue paper, because he was on suicide watch already, and dropping himself from a four-foot-tall bunk.
		It doesn't make any sense.
		Now, the prison itself that Jeffrey Epstein was held in was built by Rudy Giuliani.
		Nobody knows that prison better.
		There's a single journalist, before we get to Rudy, who's actually done a little bit of investigative work on how the prison was arranged and how this murder-suicide could have happened.
		It's remarkable that nobody really schematic this thing out.
		Nobody really did the investigation except for Tucker.
		Tucker went in and actually game-theoried what would have to happen for Jeffrey Epstein to be killed in his cell.
		And there's a, I think, plausible theory here.
		We wanted to play you this very quick clip with the preface that it is Cash and Dan Bongino saying, no, no, no.
		Jeffrey Epstein definitely killed himself without adding any further context, which sort of reignited this entire conversation.
		Here's Tucker's reporting.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		No one came in or out of the tear, Barr said.
		Therefore, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
		So let's consider that claim rationally.
		On the night of August 9, Jeffrey Epstein was being held in the special housing unit of the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, the most secure part of the city's federal lockup.
		It would be physically impossible for a stranger to get in and out of this facility without an electronic pass and without being seen by the countless cameras in place between the street and the locked ninth floor of the building.
		So if Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, he was not murdered by an intruder, someone who came into the tier.
		He was murdered by someone on his own cell block, obviously.
		There were seven other cells on Epstein's tier and each one housed dangerous criminals.
		So if you were looking for a killer you would figure out who But no one seems to have thought of that or done it.
		The Bureau of Prisons refused to provide us with a list of the inmates on Epstein's tier.
		It's not clear how many of them were even interviewed by investigators, despite the fact that some of them were transferred out of the facility shortly after Epstein's death.
		That's a baffling oversight.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		The best reporting we've seen so far, it's years old now.
		Tucker's old Fox show.
		And the next words we get on this, years later, are from Cash and Dan Bongino.
		And they said very curtly and very bluntly, no, no, no, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
		Cash and Dan said this.
		Do we not have the clip?
		Cash and Dan said this, and it caused a massive firestorm across the internet.
		Because, well, it's just a lack of evidence.
		Seems to be the evidence points in the opposite direction.
		Here's the clip.
unidentified		You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
karine jean-pierre ▲ ● ▼		People don't believe it.
kash patel ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		He killed himself.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Again, you want me to?
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		I've seen the whole file.
unidentified		He killed himself.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So this started quite a conversation online and led to us...
		Saying, as we've said before, that we know Cash and Dan to be men of upstanding moral quality.
		They are good and decent men.
		How could they say with such certitude that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, given all the demonstrable evidence here?
		Going back through the schematics of the prison and so on, it led us to ask quite a few more questions.
		And now we're honored to bring on the man who actually built The person who knows it better than anyone, Rudy Giuliani, to answer hopefully some of these lingering questions.
		Joining us live now, America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliano.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		you you Amen.
		Amen.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Rudy, welcome back to the program.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Ben, it's great to be back, Benny.
		I was just telling your people, you and your family, the pictures are great.
		I love the pictures of your family.
		I love it.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
		I wish we had more of a family-friendly topic to talk about.
		Happy to do that on any other show.
		You made a lot of news by saying to Steve Bannon the other day, yo, listen, I don't believe any of this.
		I built that prison.
		I have major lingering questions.
		Now it's the contention of Bongino and Cash that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
		They haven't presented any new evidence to that effect.
		But given the fact that you know this prison better than any human being alive, the floor is yours.
unidentified		What's your take on these claims?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I have the same respect for both those men that you do.
		They're both personal friends, and they have more evidence than I have.
		So I'm going to say this with that caveat, okay?
		But I'll just tell you what's available to me, my own analysis of it.
		I just find it hard to believe.
		I find the set of circumstances, if you would ask me, let's put them aside for a moment, their opinion.
		If you would ask me just on the evidence that I have, nobody's actually put out all the evidence.
		And what I know of that prison, it's highly unlikely that somebody could commit suicide.
		It's a small prison to start with.
		It's not, the one's being used now is the Brooklyn Detention Center.
		That's probably three times the size.
		So, therefore, it's an easier prison to guard people.
		And if you have a super important prisoner like that, and as far as I can tell, he was the only one in that category in there at the time, I know what happens when you put a prisoner like that there, because I put plenty of them there, including occasionally terrorists.
		One of the reasons we were hit, I always believed on September 11th, is we had this terrorist major al-Qaeda trial going on.
		And there was a real focus on New York by Al-Qaeda.
		And we had to take care of those terrorists in that place occasionally.
		And we'd have to do special arrangements for them.
		But if you wanted to watch them, you could have watched them 24 hours a day.
		It makes no sense that the cameras were out.
		The guard station would alert you to that.
		Well, think about it.
		You've been in facilities like that, I'm sure.
		There's a guy sitting there, and he's got a bunch of television cameras in front of him, right?
		Those television cameras show them all the key places in the facility.
		If a camera is out for two hours, I mean, the guy's got to be taking a long winter nap to miss it.
		And not to have substitute guards there for a guy that just came off suicide watch a day ago.
		Why did you take him off suicide watch?
		The circumstances hadn't changed.
		It's also a fairly low prison.
		I don't know exactly which cell he was in, but some of the cells there are, I assume he was one that was fairly tall.
		But if he was in one of the shorter prisons, the actual act of hanging yourself would be really hard.
		You'd have to have some help.
		In general, hanging yourself is not that easy in a small, confined space.
		So I could come up with maybe three or four others.
		I think it argues for you've got to put it all out.
		Maybe there are things you and I don't know that make it definitive that it was a suicide.
		I don't know what those would be.
		So how can I just back off my opinion?
		Because two people I respect tell me that at the same time, you know, No one's explained to me why the cameras weren't working.
		No one's explained to me why there wasn't an alert of some kind in the guard room.
		Maybe the camera didn't function that way anymore.
		I don't know.
		I can't imagine that you wouldn't have a camera where the security guy is, particularly for a key prisoner.
		How could you have him unguarded for a long period of time?
		Why did you switch him?
		There could be answers to all that.
		Including, like, if they just tell us the cell he was in and the height of it.
		That would help.
		Let's say it's 12 feet high, 14 feet high.
		Well, okay.
		Let's assume it's only 10 feet high.
		That's pretty hard to do that.
		That's where I am on it.
		And the whole situation with him seems like...
		Even that original case in the Bush administration.
		That was in the Bush administration, remember, when they basically gave him a deal that let him off for what appeared to be serial pedophilia.
		That's a pretty serious crime, except in California.
		So there, the questions are there.
		That's all I can tell you.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So at that time, Alex Acosta, who's a federal prosecutor there in the Southern District of Florida, said that he was told to back off because Epstein belonged to Intel.
		That's what he said before the Senate committee.
		It's on camera.
		And he had to then back off, and then he got a plea agreement and walked.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what implications there were.
		Let's assume for a moment that there's some kind of real serious national security issue.
		That we're not aware of and maybe shouldn't be.
		I don't know why whether he committed suicide or not would matter all that much.
		Because they'd have to be looking for somebody who killed him.
		I mean, unless it was somebody we can't look for, I don't know.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And that, of course, begs the question, Mr. Mayor, like who would have the ability to go into federal lockup and kill someone?
		Who has that power?
		Who has the power to turn off the cameras?
		So if your contention is the cameras were off, this is very shady.
		No one was going in and out, yet the cameras get turned off.
		Jeffrey Epstein is chairing a cell with a serial strangler.
		He's also a bodybuilder.
		He also had to break multiple bones in his neck in this very successful suicide.
		You know, you'd have to beg the question, the qui bono, right?
		Like, who has the power to turn off cameras in a federal prison facility?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		The superintendent?
		I mean, the guy running the facility at the time, even the superintendent in charge, like the duty officer, I would imagine has the right to put him on, turn him off, and also alert people to have to be fixed.
		And how long does it take to fix a camera?
		I mean, they must have had an extra...
		That was the single most important prisoner they had.
		As I emphasize, again, was on Suicide Watch.
		So those are the things that make you wonder.
		And then the apparent...
		These are, as he said, honest people.
		It's not a deliberate thing.
		But with regards to not putting the information out, there has to be a very serious national security issue that's going to have to be explained, or maybe this isn't the right period of time to do it, given what's going on in Ukraine, given what's going on in the Middle East.
		This can't be, you know, some kind of a personal thing.
		This is a government thing.
		Just think of all the secrets we have, right?
		We keep it locked up.
		The Kennedy secrets were locked up forever, and who knows if we even have gotten the right information, if it wasn't changed already.
		So I think it just raises the question more, and there are a couple of answers that have to be given that, unless I'm missing something, I think you could give without giving away whatever the terrible thing is that they're trying to deal with.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		It does beg the question.
		You've been a prosecutor.
		You've obviously prosecuted some of the highest-profile cases.
		The history of federal prosecution, bringing down the mob in New York, a lot of legendary cases.
		It's important to get the information out to the public, right?
		Like, that stops people from asking or going down the wrong path, right?
		It's actually incumbent for the government, and we can take it.
		We're all adults.
		We've all seen tough photographs from wars and the Ukrainian front lines or October 7th or whatever.
		Like, why not just be out with it with all of the information and evidence?
		Put it all at rest.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It baffles me.
		Why not?
		Because it does create a lack of confidence.
		When you have open questions like this, and this isn't the only one.
		There are others, right, about the government.
		When you have open questions like this, that's the reason you end up with those percentages.
		You know, so few people trust the government.
		This all takes its toll.
		And then when you need to summon that confidence, maybe it's not there.
		So, yeah, these are important questions.
		They're not, this isn't, This is a case that's very, very important.
		This guy clearly had friends at the highest levels of government, not just our government, at the highest levels.
		So this is not voyeurism.
		This is national security.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So one final question about Epstein and the cross-section with New York, because he was living inside of a $53 million mansion.
		On the Upper West Side.
		And this was a mansion that had the famous Bill Clinton painting in a blue dress sitting in the Oval Office.
		Did you know anything about that place?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It's a really strange thing.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		We have photos, Mr. Mayor, of the FBI.
		The FBI released some photos that they probably regret doing.
		That have boxes of it.
		He had boxes of hard drives that were wrapped in yellow evidence tape.
		And the FBI testified that they didn't put the tape there.
		And we have boxes of them.
unidentified		CDs.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		CDs with, like, that say nudes on them.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		The CDs say nudes, Mr. Mayor.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why I'm laughing.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It isn't funny, but it is weird.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		What the hell is this stuff?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I'm very glad to say I never saw the place.
		All the time I was U.S. attorney and all the time I was mayor.
		All the time I was in New York City, I really, I'm not sure, I don't think I ever met him.
		I have no recollection of meeting him or knowing about him.
		I think I heard the name a few times as a big Democratic, when you read about Democratic, major Democratic fundraisers, when he got in trouble, I remembered the name.
		oh my God, there's another Democratic fundraiser that's a pervert, right?
		Maybe I have a little bit of a biased view of it, but you tend to look at those things.
		But yeah, that should yield a tremendous amount of evidence.
		What about the island?
		I mean, gosh almighty, the island, you could search to hold on place.
		I can't imagine this guy had operated for the period of time he did, and he left no evidence behind.
		Now, again, this is a supposition, and it could be wrong.
		But he seemed to be the kind of guy that would be framing people.
		Doing what the mafia used to do when they ran all the gay bars.
		People wondered, why would the mafia run gay bars on the west side of Manhattan?
		Because judges would go in there.
		And politicians would go in there.
		And important business people would go in there.
		Snap.
		They'd take a picture.
		And like you remember in The Godfather, when the senator got in trouble, they can walk in and they can fix things for you.
		Oh, we'll go see the judge.
		His wife's not going to like to see this picture.
		I'm sure this guy did that.
		I'm sure he had plenty of evidence on the people that could help protect him.
		So, maybe I'm wrong.
		But that's a logical assumption, right?
		And the way you investigate, Mene, is you take logical assumptions, and that's your circumstantial evidence, and then you go answer them.
		You know, I always followed the rule.
		You start a murder investigation with the person with the biggest motive.
		The person with the biggest motive logically committed probably 70% of the murders.
		So I always wondered why Lyndon Johnson wasn't the major focus of a John F. Kennedy investigation.
		I can't think of anyone, including the mafia, was going to go on whether or not Kennedy was president or not.
		The Soviets, they had a motive to kill every American president.
		They didn't do it.
		Cuba maybe, but probably they'd have to have the help of the mafia.
		I don't know that Cuba could have penetrated.
		But then you've got the guy with the most obvious motive.
		He wasn't going to be president.
		They were thinking of dropping him in favor of Governor Connolly, who was in the car with him.
		There's rumors of that.
		I mean, Robert Kennedy despised him.
		Robert Kennedy knew he was a massive crook.
		He couldn't even believe that his brother took him on the ticket.
		The guy used to give out cash on the floor of the Senate.
		And Robert always appeared to me to be the more judgmental of the two in the right way.
		John Kennedy seemed to be more of the smooth politician.
		And Robert Kennedy reminded me of, you know, the kind of prosecutors to work with me.
		He might have had different political ideas, but From a prosecutorial point of view, he was terrific.
		And Johnson hated him.
		He hated Johnson.
		I mean, it was like blood feud.
		And I can't imagine, of course, I never got to talk to him about it, that being the investigator he was, that wasn't always on his mind.
		That there's the guy.
		This guy would never be sitting in that White House if my brother were alive.
		He either would have won or lost the presidency, and Johnson would have been gone, and they may have dropped him.
		They were thinking about it seriously.
		And Connolly was at that time, I believe, more popular in Texas than he was.
		So these are things that I think when you leave these questions, here's how it isn't just curiosity.
		It's people then begin to develop a certain percentage of people that don't trust the government.
		And they might not even think that until you go question them on these polls and say, do you trust the government?
		And they think, gee, they never really answered Kennedy.
		They're not answering this.
		And I don't mean this administration.
	I mean, every administration hasn't answered Kennedy.
	They've done more than anyone.
	I just think the evidence may be gone on Kennedy.
	If they were powerful enough to fix the Warren Commission, they're powerful enough to grab the key documents that can answer these things and get rid of them.
	I can't imagine they let him sit around on that file for, you know, half a century.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe that there is a preponderance of Epstein evidence that still exists?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that we'll ever see anything, Mr. Mayor?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I think it still exists on Epstein.
		And I think we are going to see it.
		And I think they're struggling with it.
		I really do believe that.
		Why?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Why are they struggling?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I think it probably involves something that could have big implications.
		On our national security, foreign policy, allies.
		It has to be something very, very sensitive.
		You know, the Kennedy thing, I think, is gone.
		I think we're never going to, we're just going to be one of those things where we're going to be discussing it 100 years from now.
		If we still have history as a course, well, certainly not in the Ivy League schools.
		They don't do history any longer.
		That's a subject that isn't taught.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So, and this is the final question on the subject, but given what you know about the prison that Jeffrey Epstein was held in, how would you kill someone in that?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		How would I do it?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		How would you do it?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		How is it possible?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I think the easiest way to do it is to make sure you're going to use something that doesn't show up in the blood.
		End up sedating him.
		And then hanging him.
		Accomplish the hanging yourself.
		Now, that could be done with the help of one or two people.
		You could hang him easily.
		You can hang him anyplace with the help of one or two people.
		But there's even dispute by the outside medical examiner as to whether he was actually hung.
		Now, I don't know the answer to that either.
		Maybe there's a definitive answer to that, but that question has been raised by an outside report.
		So there are more questions than there are answers, and it shouldn't be that way.
		There should be more answers than questions.
		And with the two of them saying that, I assume there are answers, but we're just not getting them.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and your advice as a legendary prosecutor yourself?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		My advice is to put that out.
		Put out the answers that lead them to the conclusion.
		The way I just laid out the questions, give us the answers you have to that.
		I don't think that's going to lead to, let's assume, some very important, critical person, or he was involved in some very critical mission for the United States.
		The fact that we raised a question, the issue that he was murdered, is not going to reveal that.
		It's going to create more of an impetus to find out about it.
		But it isn't necessarily going to give away that information right away.
		So I would love to see one of the two of them sit down and tell us how they came to that conclusion.
		And I think that would help.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Help saddle one thing and then possibly say the rest of it, you know, you have to just leave it to our judgment to release at the right time.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't have a functional country with so few people trusting the government.
		You actually want to have a functional country.
		You want to be able to trust federal law enforcement to do the right thing.
		And it can't happen if the vast majority of the American people believe that they're protecting the world's foremost pederast.
		It can't happen.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it makes it harder.
		I think that this is the strange thing.
		This is why it's so frustrating.
		He's done a lot of things, meaning the president, Cash, Bongino, and the whole team.
		They've done a lot of things to restore confidence in the government.
		I mean, they've taken on...
		I mean, they've gone after the deep state about as strongly as you could go after them in the period of time they had available to them.
		So this is sort of an outlier.
		It's not helpful.
		And it's going to have to be answered at some point.
		I mean, we're not in the 1960s and 1970s when they let the Kennedy thing slide.
		This is just too important.
unidentified		Right.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		So I wish it was answered sooner rather than later.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		I love that you brought up Kennedy.
		I love that you brought up Clinton because it's, you know, it just shows a people's history of cover-ups in recent history.
		I mean, if you can kill a president on camera, then, you know.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It's almost a default position.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		We're talking the last, I don't know, we could be going back to...
		You can go back to the Second World War, maybe equal number of Republican and Democrat administrations.
		So we're not talking about a necessarily a part.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is a perfect segue to Letitia James.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It's about 150 years of that.
		If we're talking about fooling around, I mean, messing around, doing things dishonest at the national level, we have our history of that, too.
		And remember, Kennedy had to be covered up by both Republicans and Democrats.
		Nixon was in office for six of those years.
		He would have had every motive to put it out.
		And probably he's one of the people, given the fact he was president and also very tied into the government and the agencies, he's one of the people who probably knew the answer.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's on the tapes saying he knows who killed John.
unidentified		Yeah.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		We have the White House.
		We have the tapes.
		And then Richard Nixon had Watergate launched against him.
		Four of the five people that broke into the Watergate were CIA agents?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like January 6th.
unidentified		Yes.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Small version of January 6th.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Practice.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So the hoaxes against President Trump are many.
		One of them was run out of New York, Letitia James.
		Is now in hot water herself.
		And you say that you're very proud of the speed at which the Trump administration is moving.
		Letitia James is obviously quite a big target.
		We call her Big Tish on this program.
		And it seems like she's in hot water quite bigly.
		What's your take on this, Mr. Mayor?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Well, my take on it is that they've created for some people an equivalency between what she did and what the administration is doing.
		What she did is, she and Bragg, in both cases, create a crime that doesn't exist and produce false evidence to support it.
		I just remind you of the evaluation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.
		Every time I live in Palm Beach and I look at $40, $50, $60, $80 million four-bedroom homes.
		This thing is worth, you know, you pick the price.
		It's one of these priceless places.
		If I said half a billion, you'd jump at it.
		If I said a billion, I might be closer to it.
		The guy actually lied.
		I mean, he should create a value.
		I've never heard of a fraud case where nobody lost money.
		The definition of fraud is, you know, putting people at disadvantage, hurting them.
		She's charged with saying that you live in, what was it, Virginia or Maryland when you're the attorney general in New York?
		That's a pretty big lie on a loan application.
		Maybe there's no explanation for that.
		Saying that a building is smaller than it actually is, actually you cheat people out of They actually get cheated.
		So, and there's plenty more.
		These are things that anybody would be prosecuted for.
		And I remember she was the one that constantly said, nobody is above the law.
		Well, if we were to ignore the fact that she put herself in a marriage with her father in order to save money, cheat people out of money.
unidentified		How?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I mean, who could justify that?
		The only problem is, does it get tried in New York?
		And are New York juries just as bad the other way?
		I mean, they'll convict anything that smells Trump.
		If she puts up Trump is coming after me, are they going to have a hard time?
		Now, it is a federal case, right?
		I think it's a federal case.
		And you tend to get a better jury in a federal case because you're talking about a much bigger pool.
		Of people for a federal case.
		So we might get a fair trial there.
		But this has to be tried.
		I mean, it's ridiculous to fight the U.S. Attorney's Office.
		It's public.
		She's the Attorney General.
		She lied about her residence and her marital status in order to cheat people out of money.
		Pretty cut and dry.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		You would predict prison time.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Oh, if she got convicted?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Sure.
		Maybe not if she were just a regular person.
		This is where having public office probably disadvantages you.
		But the fact that she had public office and she's really lying to the people of the state that she's a resident about her residency and she's putting people in jail aggressively and here she is involved in fraud.
		Yeah, it sounds like a prison, at least some form of prison, to deter other public officials.
		From doing the same thing.
		I think if she was just a regular citizen messing around with a loan application and it was a first offense, I'm not sure I'd put her in jail.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		So, interesting times, good things to come.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the most interesting times in the, I mean, I'm 80 years old, soon to be 81. And it's the most interesting, and I've been through...
		I mean, I was born as the First World War, Second World War ended.
		But I was interested, my family was very interested in politics.
		So from the time I was a child, my mother and father were discussing communism and the danger of communism.
		And one was a Republican, the other was a Democrat.
		But my father was a Democrat who now would be a bigger Republican than my mother.
		He was an anti-communist Democrat.
		Aggressively anti-communist.
		And he switched somewhere along the way.
		I don't remember.
		But now he would be sitting there saying, how could I have belonged to that party?
		I don't know what's wrong with him.
		There's something seriously wrong at the highest level of that party.
		Because they do too many things that are irrational.
		Like wanting dangerous criminals back among us.
		People who commit debt.
		Crimes like rape and murder and abusive children.
		They want to bring them back.
		I mean, they can't seem to pick their issues against Trump.
		I mean, Trump could really, really destroy them by kind of making up issues and then just suckering them into being against it.
		I go back to the wall.
		For years, they were all in favor of the wall.
		On record, there's video of Schumer and Pelosi.
		Wall, wall, wall.
		Trump says wall, and now he's a racist xenophobe.
		They even know the pictures are going to show up.
		They have so little regard for the public.
		They figure they can alibi their way out of anything.
		I think it all comes down to owning the press, Benny.
		I think you feel like when people evaluate Republican political advisors, they say it's not fair.
		It's not fair.
		It's like having a basketball coach and every time your team goes on the court, they only get one point for a basket and the other team gets two.
		Now you want to evaluate the two basketball coaches against each other.
		I'm running a campaign for a Republican.
		That's a major effort.
		I'm fighting off the New York Times and NBC and ABC.
		You're running it for a Democrat and you can print anything you want.
		That's got to change, too.
		I think we're doing a good job with that.
		And when I say we, I mean you and me and Dan Bongino and everybody who does this.
		And you take a look at 2020 and 2024.
		The difference could be we had more of an independent media in 2024.
		There are people who tell me who've done an analysis that if we had the same percentage of independent media in 2024, it wouldn't have mattered that much that they were able to.
		to censor the post and the hard drive, that it would have gotten out-That's right.
		Through the alternative media within four or five days.
		So we have some things that are very positive too.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		I'm a glass half full kind of guy by nature, silver linings, and we've always appreciated that optimism about you, Well, thank you.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate you a lot.
		You're one of the key figures in this group that I, sometime I, I hate to mention it because I'm going to miss somebody.
		Sometimes I put out a list of, It's this group of 50 people.
		They're going to tell you the truth.
		The rest...
		Listen to them in order to know what to contradict.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Mayor, I don't know why we're...
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I hadn't looked at it in a long time.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Would you ever hang that in your Palm Beach house, Mr. Mayor?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		Nor would I stay in a house that had one of those things in it for too long.
		I'd be scared.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Final question.
		What is this saying to Bill Clinton?
		Many have speculated this is Jeffrey Epstein saying, I own you, right?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I have the goods on you.
		Here's another thing.
		I think he says he never was on the plane.
		And then there are supposed to be all kinds of records he was on at 27 times.
		Well, are there or aren't there?
		I mean, those records, I can't imagine, were destroyed in the amount of time.
		We should be able to figure out who was on the plane.
		And when he was on the plane, the Secret Service was with him.
		There should be government records of that.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		Release them!
		Establish trust, once again, in federal law enforcement and release these records.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Is there some kind of national security?
		He's presumed innocent.
		But let's say he is guilty.
		Where's the national security issue there?
		I mean, we find out that Clinton was on that plane 27 times.
		It's a very damaging fact, but that isn't a fact that we should be classifying.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		He's never had to answer any question.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		And to your point of a media cover-up, Bill Clinton has never had to get And the government?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Not that I know of.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Right.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly right.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		He has to be on your list, doesn't he?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		He should be on the list of people who are brought in for questioning.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		If we were doing a Sherlock Holmes investigation of this, he'd be on the list.
		Right.
		Or if those old movies, they'd all be in the room.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Of who would benefit?
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		The eight people, Charlie Chan, the Charlie Chan movie, they'd all be in the room.
		Agatha Christie.
		They'd all be in the room.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Who would benefit to Epstein's death?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Who would benefit the most from this guy?
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Right.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Big questions.
		And it's our obligation to continue to create friction and to make sure that there's pressure from the outside to release these diets.
		It would be good for the country.
		It would be good for the country to have them released.
		Everybody needs to go over and assist in this process.
		You can do that by following Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, on X. He has nearly 2 million followers on X. He needs absolutely no introduction or help from us, but...
unidentified		Rudy Giuliani.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		on it seven and eight every night.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		The only...
		Please tune in for a show right there on X. And the only guest that we've ever had on the program who also starred in Seinfeld.
		And so we thank you.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		Thank you very much, Benny.
		You do a great job.
		And God bless you and God bless your family.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Go fight that nonfat yogurt.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		We'll never forget.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have a coffee that I sell.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		I should sell a nonfat yogurt.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		We're big Seinfeld fans.
		All the producers are massive Seinfeld fans.
		It's just a classic, Mr. Mayor.
		Thank you.
rudy giuliani ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Godspeed.
unidentified		Godspeed.
benny johnson ▲ ● ▼		Very interesting times indeed.
		Sometimes it's nice to just sort of sit back and let men.
		Especially older men who have a lot of wisdom.
		Let's talk and explain things.
		You learn a lot, actually, by just sitting back and listening.
		On a personal note, I'm trying to tighten up my questions here.
		Just get my questions out so that it leads the wise and intelligent people on our program to tell us everything that they know.
		And if you're the man who built the prison...
		So, ladies and gentlemen, the great Rudy Giuliani.
		Now, would you buy a painting of Bill Clinton in a dress?
		Sitting there?
		In a chair in the Oval Office?
		And you know what that blue dress was, right?
		Yikes.
		I doubt you would buy that.
		We would never put that up for sale.
		But we did try and create something that I guess you could hang.
		In your house, unlike Jeffrey Epstein, Christmas ornaments in your house are hung.
		And the Christmas ornament that we made this last year, we were able to move 50,000 of them.
		Couldn't believe it.
		The only way we were able to accomplish this was Shopify.
		Shopify assisted in the structural backend.
		Of such a massive order.
		And this was the Christmas ornament.
		It was really popular.
		We couldn't believe it.
		And we just sold the electoral map.
		It was five bucks.
		But boy, did the orders ever come in.
		The point was to get as many of them out and out the door as possible.
		Point wasn't really to make money.
		Ladies and gentlemen, again, the only way that we have the structure to deliver on that is Shopify.
		Shopify is the most powerful and largest e-commerce platform in all of America.
		It's behind millions of businesses around the world.
		10% of all e-commerce in the United States, actually.
		From household name brands to people who are just getting started as Christmas ornament salesmen.
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		And ladies and gentlemen, you should give them a shot.
		We did.
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		All right, ladies and gentlemen.
		On to our verse of the day today.
		That'd be very interesting.
		Kind of dark, right?
		It's all the cocaine in the White House.
		I've seen stuff.
		Let's do a palate cleanser here with our verse of the day from Ephesians.
		Let no one deceive you with empty words, for it is because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
		Ephesians 5, 6. Just chill out and let God judge them, right?
		Just sit back and let God judge them.
		What's happening with this Epstein stuff?
		What's happening with cocaine in the White House?
		Let God sort them out, you know?
		But use the energy, the strength that we have on this program, the ability to shed light and salt on these things, and tell the truth.
		This is what we are on a dead-set mission for on this channel.
	We are going to have these discussions.
	We're going to actually ask these questions.
	We're going to bring on the experts, and we're just going to let God sort them out.
	Right now we have a very exciting opportunity for justice in our time, and boy, we'd like to see it.
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	Do we?
	Fine.
	Thank you.
	And that's the easiest way for you to help us grow this channel and to grow what we're doing here.
	We're deeply thankful for you.
	Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for making this 38th trip around the sun.
	So memorable for me and for our family here.
	Shout out to you.
	We're not sick of winning yet, ladies and gentlemen.
	And we're really excited for the future.
	It's your boy, Benny.
	It's been an honor marching with you as we march on to victory.
	In the end, we win.
	See ya.
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		Ba-ba-ba.
		And the man said, no, without a doubt.
		If you want some of that, Jack, go to the White House.
		Can I get you your laptop?
		My son said, full stop.
		And then he waddled away.
		And then he waddled away.
		From saving the nation to stories untold.
		The Benny Show's a storm, see the truth unfold.
		Stay in the loop, let freedom take hold.
		Salt on all the libs, soul never sold.
		It's the Benny Show, where the truth gon' be.
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		Stand up strong, battle through the night.
		The Benny Show's here bringing liberty to light.
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