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LIVE Right Now from Inside the Capitol, Trump Big Beautiful Bill PASSED, Members Join Us | 'VICTORY'
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unidentified
Good morning to you guys.
What a victory for House Speaker Mike Johnson and President Trump.
We have not yet heard from him.
I'm sort of scrolling through his Truth Social waiting to see if he is going to make some remarks about this.
But it's a huge day for both of these men to celebrate.
This was his signature piece of legislation.
It was not an easy task.
We're talking about over a thousand pages of bill text.
There's a lot in here that President Trump is very excited about.
And they got it done, even though there were some moments there where we weren't sure if they were going to have the votes.
They got it done.
They were here all night.
So they are going to be celebrating now.
Nothing motivates Congress more than President Trump and a nice long holiday weekend, like Memorial Day weekend.
They wanted to get out of here.
So they'll be able to do that.
So let's talk about what's in this, because it does impact you at home.
If you pay taxes, this is a big deal for you because it makes permanent those That means that your taxes will not be going up next year.
This impacts more than 60% of Americans across the country.
A lot of Democrats were making a fuss about how this was a big payout for the billionaires.
I don't think that more than 60% of Americans are billionaires.
So it impacts the middle class and hardworking folks out there.
Of course, some signature things from his campaign trail he talked about was no taxes on tips.
That's in there.
No taxes on overtime.
That's in there as well.
Border security, more funding to hire more and more ICE agents to continue President Trump's deportation policies.
They went after waste, fraud, and abuse to try to make up for that loss in revenue when it came to those taxes.
A lot of fighting we saw over the past couple of weeks.
You heard a lot about salt for those folks that live in red states.
This is a big deal for blue state folks that pay a lot of money in property taxes.
You had a lot of Republicans from places like New York, New Jersey that were fighting for this, and they were able to raise that from $10,000 to $40,000.
It was a huge compromise in the last couple of hours before this vote.
And of course, as well as raising the debt ceiling to $4 trillion, this was a big deal for Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett because he was a little anxious that these guys weren't going to be able to get it done by the time that they needed to before the August recess.
So that's a big deal for the White House as well.
Well, and Medicaid.
A lot of fighting over Medicaid, especially for some conservatives from states where they have a lot of constituents on Medicaid.
They were worried there were going to be massive cuts.
Really, Republicans wanted to go after illegal immigrants that were using Medicaid and able-bodied men that were on Medicaid.
They wanted to add work requirements, and those work requirements now will start in 2026.
It's a huge win for fiscal conservatives.
Now, they didn't get everything, which is why we saw Andy Harris, who is the House Freedom Caucus chair, vote present, and we saw Warren Davidson and Thomas Massey vote no on the bill, but pretty much a party-line vote today.
I got to tell you, I'm a little surprised, maybe you're not, Lawrence, that Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader, didn't put up much of a fight on the House floor.
They have this tool called the Magic Minute.
You might have heard this.
It basically is a tool that affords the opposing party's leader to take up the floor for as long as they want to try to delay the vote.
We saw Kevin McCarthy, the former House Speaker, use this tactic when the Democrats were trying to pass the big, sorry, the bill back.
A better bill for President Biden a couple years ago.
He went on for eight hours on the House floor, set a record.
Leader Hawking Jeffries really only spoke for about 30 minutes.
I just asked him why he didn't hold the floor longer to try to put up a fight.
He didn't reply to me.
So I guess they knew they weren't going to win on this one.
Huge victory for the president.
Huge win for the president.
Yes.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
It's a celebration.
Celebration.
benny johnson
Welcome to the show live.
Live from inside of the Capitol.
I will take the mic for the only time during what I assume is going to be the next 30 minutes.
Welcoming you to the show inside of Rep Tim Burchett's office right now.
Live at his desk.
Why freaking not?
This is a time to celebrate.
We are here with the passage of the big, beautiful bill.
Republicans in Congress finally getting it done.
Today is Thursday, May 22nd, 2025.
The Big Beautiful Bill passed because of this guy, in part.
And we have a lot more to go and a lot more good news.
We're going to get information and the read from the man himself, Tim Burchett, also Trump nuking.
The South African president live inside of the White House.
It is must-see TV.
It'll make you proud to be an American.
And in case you're wondering, yes, this is exactly what we voted for.
We're going to have other members of Congress joining us here.
Tim Burch has got a flight to catch, so we're going to let it rip and roll.
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All right.
Here we go.
Celebrate good times.
Come on.
Congressman Tim Burchett has not slept.
He's been awake for 24 maybe hours?
48 hours?
tim burchett
Almost 40. Almost 40 hours.
unidentified
All right.
benny johnson
The floor is yours, Congressman.
What's up?
Congratulations on getting this bill passed.
tim burchett
What happened?
Well, thank you, Benny, and thanks for coming into my very humble office.
Right at the end, you know, the SALT stuff was in play, which is interesting.
One of the major players in the SALT thing slept through the dadgumbo.
A little trivia for you there.
I bet Trump's going to bust his ass.
Excuse my language.
benny johnson
Was he sleeping on the House floor?
tim burchett
No, no, no, no, no.
Didn't make it to the vote.
Missed two Republican votes, so it was a one-vote difference.
The chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, he passed.
Thomas Massey voted against it, and one other Republican did.
It was just one person.
Deal.
And, you know, the guy, I mean, they pitched a fit on that SALT stuff.
So anyway, SALT, state and local tax.
I don't like it, but it's, you know, compromise is part of the deal.
When I raised the speed limit in Tennessee, I asked for 85. I took 70. Of course, I brought Peyton Manning to the House floor the week prior.
I'm pretty sure I could have got 100 miles an hour and communism that week, but I didn't do it.
You know, you don't like the communists.
But no, it's a good thing.
It's the largest tax cut in American history.
It really is.
And the average Tennessean is going to, you know, a guy making $70,000 a year, family of four or something, they could be out of pocket thousands of dollars more if we didn't pass this.
It deregulated the oil industry.
Excuse Biden, you know, they didn't lie to us about the oil industry.
They did permit more.
But dadgummit, they didn't permit any more pipelines.
unidentified
So Trump took the, you know, I don't like regulations on pipelines.
tim burchett
You know, that's what he told us.
So he took the dadgum pipeline, dadgum.
benny johnson
He took, and that was a dadgums in the comments.
Can we get some Tim Burgess up in the comments?
Yes, that's right.
unidentified
All right.
tim burchett
Thank you.
And they reduced the tax, no tax on Social Security.
Seniors over, I'm having to read this, folks, because it's.
You know, these lawyers.
Seniors over 65 years old making less than $75,000 or $150,000 filing jointly will be able to deduct $4,000 from their taxes or $8,000 jointly.
So that's pretty cool.
If you say 529 savings plans in an earned interest savings plan that used for educational purposes, it's been expanded now to allow for expenses at trade schools, private schools, and homeschooling.
So that's a good thing.
Let's see.
Waste abuse fraud.
Medicaid.
The Democrats are saying, oh, you're going to cut all these poor people off.
Well, if they're here illegally or they're gaming the dadgum system, then they kick their butts off of it.
And that's what we should be doing.
And all they're doing is rattling the sabers and scaring people.
And they ought to be looking after the least amongst us.
And they're not.
And shame on Chuck Schumer and dadgummit.
CNN.
I saw that thing.
I wished I could have gotten on scene that day.
I ripped ABC and they backed off on me.
But anyway, so that's pretty much what it is.
It's the largest tax cut in American history.
So that's a pretty killer thing, Benny.
It's not great, okay?
It's not the greatest we could do.
We should cut.
Gosh, we ought to go through this thing like a dose of salt.
Man, we ought to be.
But this is a start.
So we know we got a taste of it.
America needs to start holding our feet to fire.
And we've got to start passing those executive orders.
benny johnson
Yeah.
What about doge cuts?
Is there going to be a doge bill?
tim burchett
Well, there ought to be.
Some of it's in here.
Some of it is in here.
It's, you know, tucked in different parts.
But no.
And we've got to do that.
And we've got to get the guts to do it.
USAID.
I mean, all that crazy stuff.
$10 million for...
Circumcisions in Madagascar, as I've stated many times, it's voluntary, but still, $10 million.
Do y 'all really think they're going for that?
Heck no.
It's going in somebody's dadgum pocket is what it's doing.
Let's wake up.
Let's just call them out.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Trump's in the White House.
He calls everybody out.
He caught up that dadgum African president yesterday, which was beautiful.
He calls out the head dude in Ukraine, Zelensky.
That was beautiful.
And so it's all fair game.
Let's call it out.
What we talk about at the kitchen table, let's start talking about it in Washington, D.C. Quit going through a censor or a think tank.
Let's do a poll.
No.
If you think it's wrong, call it out.
And we need to start doing that in Washington.
And we've got to get out of bed with these people.
We've got to get out of bed with the Chinese and their corrupt lobbyists.
benny johnson
Eric Swalwell's office is right next door, so you can probably hear that.
You've got to get out of bed with the Chinese.
It's going to offend Eric Swalwell.
He's going to be very upset about that.
He's going to take that personally, Congressman.
tim burchett
Possibly.
Possibly.
benny johnson
Just a reminder that on the Congressman's desk is UFOs and nukes.
This is the reading.
tim burchett
Was that a cheers?
Is that a cheers, Klein?
I get more dead gum UFO books because I just don't have time to read them all.
unidentified
I apologize to everybody.
benny johnson
Let's dive down into the politics behind all this.
Taking a step back, we did a poll and we asked which congressman would you like to hear from on the bill?
This is also something.
That's on the congressman's desk.
tim burchett
Somebody made that for me.
Back when I had a beard.
I got a blunt and facial tattoos.
benny johnson
Democrat senators would fly down to meet with you and have a margarita if this is what you really look like.
Tell us about the process here.
Our audience knows that you have never lied to them.
And more than that, they know that you've been brutally honest with them.
You said it's not the best that you could do.
I think that realists understand that the Congress is pretty divided just a couple.
seats here and there.
tim burchett
Three seats, whatever.
benny johnson
A few heart attacks away from a majority.
tim burchett
That's what Trump said.
I like saying a flu season, but yeah.
benny johnson
So talk us through the process here.
I know, President, this is being seen as a massive victory for Trump in order to unite all sides.
Do you agree with that?
tim burchett
I do.
The moderates of the left wing, Members of the...
And they had to have something to take home because, frankly, their districts were Kamala Harris or Kamala, whichever it is.
I never remember.
She won by 14 or 15 points, and yet we have a Republican congressman in that district.
Now, they're not going to be with us.
They're not going to be with 85% of the time, but we get them sometimes, and that's better than having another Marxist in those seats.
And we've got some out in California that needed the salt thing as well.
So hopefully that'll help them.
We hold our nose and get that.
But we got some of those Medicaid work requirements.
And I think that says to America.
benny johnson
So that says if you're on food stamps.
If you're on food stamps, you have to be looking for a job.
tim burchett
If you're able.
If you're able.
And that's what the Democrats, they kept saying.
Oh, you're going to cut these.
No, we're not.
No, we're not.
A single mom out there with a couple of kids that's entitled to the, or maybe not entitled, I don't know if the correct word is, that qualifies for these things.
We're not kicking them off.
But if you're gaming the dadgum system, yeah, we're going to kick your butt off.
You're going to have to get a dadgum job, and you ought to.
You ought to.
benny johnson
Border security.
This is the most...
This is the most America's ever spent on the U.S. border?
tim burchett
Absolutely.
100%.
You know, the Democrats wouldn't let us spend $4 billion in Trump's first term.
benny johnson
That's right.
tim burchett
Because they said we were broke.
And then they turned it right around and gave $250 billion to Zelensky in Ukraine.
No strings attached.
benny johnson
Yeah, and also because the traitor Paul Ryan lied to us.
He lied to us.
He straight up lied to the...
We have the ad of Paul Ryan going to the border and saying, I'm going to build the wall.
He rode a horse and he has a cowboy hat on.
And he lied.
He backstabbed.
tim burchett
He can't ride no dadgum horse.
He's from Wisconsin.
He probably don't even ride a Harley.
If he did, it's one of those guys with a man bun, probably an electric Harley.
I'm ticked off at Harley, man.
Trump said something about Harley the other day about, you know, they got these Indians.
They're not made in India.
And I'm like, I got a 47 Indian chief.
I know he should have called on me.
I'm mad at Harley because Ronald Reagan saved their ass.
Save their ass on tariffs, and that's what Trump needs to talk about.
All right, I'm sorry.
benny johnson
We got the Paul Ryan ad, the plebiscite.
Okay, so you're saying, so the contention, the big takeaways here is trillions in mandatory cuts.
tim burchett
Yep, first time.
So we always do the non-mandatory cuts.
unidentified
Okay.
tim burchett
And that's the difference.
benny johnson
Explain the difference.
tim burchett
Okay, Medicare, Medicaid, generally your welfare or your mandatory spending.
And we found waste, abuse, and fraud, and we're able to cut that, what, $800 billion, something like that.
And some people think it could be a lot more.
And that's sort of a question of how much is it going to cut?
Because when these criteria start going through, and yeah, those liberal federal judges will probably sue us all, but I don't care if they're going to lose in the end.
The Supreme Court will uphold it because it is the right thing to do.
And so we'll go down that route.
But you asked the process.
It's just different committees in their areas of jurisdiction did different things.
And, you know, the education committee worked on the education component of transportation.
And everybody was assigned to make some cuts.
And by and by and far, Benny, they cut, as my daughter would say, ginormous amounts more than they were told to cut.
And so that helped out a lot.
But you're talking cutting billions, and we run up a trillion-dollar debt every hundred days.
So it's not for show.
It's the right thing to do.
Waste, abuse, and fraud in any department needs to be eliminated.
But we've got to look at the structure, and the structure is broken.
We have to encourage people to work, not to sit on their butts and draw a check.
benny johnson
So there's a lot to celebrate in the bill?
tim burchett
There's a lot of work to do on top of it.
This is not a...
This is not a peak.
This is a plateau we're going to build on.
benny johnson
Okay.
Well, it's good to see something done.
I mean, it's great to get something done.
Trump seems really happy with it.
tim burchett
Well, he ought to be.
Now it's got to go to the same.
benny johnson
Hey, Alex, can you send me that Trump post, please, in our production chat so we can read it?
And we appalled, ladies and gentlemen, we're not going to be doing play-besides or ads.
We tried to put one up.
It just doesn't work well with the two-shot here, so we're just going to...
tim burchett
It's on me.
Blame it on me, Danny.
It's on me.
I got like...
Eight-track player technology in my office.
benny johnson
So you were there with the president in his meeting two days ago?
tim burchett
I did not go to that, no.
I was not in that.
That was Freedom Caucus.
That's a mistake a lot of people make.
I am not in the Freedom Caucus.
It's a Freedom Caucus exclusive.
But I was briefed every time something came about.
I was getting a text from one of the members.
When you go see the president, it's like I always think of Forrest Gump.
I went to see the president again because you've got to go an hour before and you wait.
There's something always going on in the world because he's a dadgum president.
He's not freaking Joe Biden.
It's not Jill running the show.
It's Donald Trump.
He runs the freaking show.
Something going on.
He might be 30 minutes to an hour late.
You've got to go through security.
You know, when you leave, you got to talk to the press and out on the sticks and all that.
And it just blows your whole freaking day.
And I had other stuff to do.
I had constituent stuff I had to deal with.
I had committee meetings.
So, you know, it's not like I got my freaking feelings hurt.
And I had to do a lot of media.
So, how much media did we do that day?
How many?
Nine?
unidentified
Nine.
tim burchett
Nine media hits.
So, you know, I was pretty busy.
And I was also trying to analyze what was in the bill.
And it was just...
A constant thing, so it's not like I got my feelings hurt.
benny johnson
I want you to comment on the president, because this is the major criticism from our audience.
The major criticism from our audience is that Congress refuses to solidify President Trump's victory by passing his agenda.
So I'm going to read you Donald Trump's post this morning.
He is what seems to be ecstatic on Truth Social.
One big, beautiful bill has passed the House of Representatives.
This is arguably the most significant piece of legislation that's ever been signed in the history of the country.
The bill includes massive tax cuts, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, tax deductions, when you purchase American-made vehicle.
That's interesting.
Along with strong border security measures, pay raises for ICE and Border Patrol agents, funding for the Golden Dome, Trump savings accounts for newborn babies in much.
Great job by Speaker Johnson and leadership.
Thank you to Republicans who voted yes on this historic bill.
How many Republicans voted against it?
unidentified
Two.
tim burchett
Two and one passed.
benny johnson
Okay.
tim burchett
So you can say three.
benny johnson
And now it's time for our friends in the United States Senate to get to work as soon as possible.
No time to waste.
The Democrats have lost control of themselves and are aimlessly wandering around, showing no confidence, grit, determination.
They've forgotten their landslide, lost the presidential election, and are warped in the past, hoping someday to revive open borders for the world's criminals to pour into our country.
Men to be able to play in women's sports and transgender for everyone.
Trump says, to transgender everybody.
unidentified
Oh, he said in the meeting in our secret meeting.
benny johnson
Democrats wanted to just transgender everyone.
They make it mandatory to get a driver's license.
You've got to be transgender.
tim burchett
You know, his speechwriter, I mean, all he's got to do is say, people can say, I'm Donald Trump, and that's all his speechwriter needs to write, because Trump ain't going to follow anything.
Okay.
benny johnson
So, listen, I don't mean to sit here and just read social posts, but this doesn't get passed without President Trump.
tim burchett
If he had not interjected, you're exactly right, we'd be here over the weekend and not get anything passed.
benny johnson
And so this was Trump, what?
Like, this is the art of the deal.
This is just, like, the masterstroke art of the deal bringing together.
Because there were quite a few factions.
Quite a few angry little factions, like, all splintered off.
tim burchett
Remember, NBA basketball game.
I don't watch them because they're dirtbags.
They kneel during the Pledge of Allegiance.
I don't care if it was five years ago.
They're still dirtbags.
They're overpaid spoiled brats.
I hope they're not advertisers with you because they won't be now, I guess.
But anyway, you know, all you got to do is watch the last two minutes of the game.
Because that's when it, you know, they could be 50 points behind.
They don't play defense.
They just run down and shoot.
And that's what this is about.
The last two minutes of the game.
Watch the last two minutes of the game.
And that's when Trump gets engaged.
And he sees where everybody, because it's a great, it's perfect because he lets everybody beat the crap out of each other.
And he sees where he's got to get, he's got to make his points.
And he gets it.
He calls a man, you know, and says, hey, you know, we got to do this, got to do that.
And I'm like.
I mean, who tells the freaking president no?
You know?
I mean, I have, but it's, you know, but we have a good relationship.
He doesn't curse me or anything.
Last time he called me, we talked for 15 minutes.
But, you know, there was one thing you did say that I wanted to, and I said in the meeting, I asked President Trump this, I said, Mr. President, we need to get off our ass and start working.
I wish you would tell everyone how important it is to codify your executive orders.
And that's the next thing he said we need to get.
benny johnson
That's what you said to Trump?
tim burchett
Yeah, I did.
And that's Jake Sherman.
I've said, so it's got to be true.
It's on the freaking internet.
Anyway, no, we got to start working on that.
That's got to.
And the trouble with Congress, we do a freaking victory lap.
And here we are, over 100 days in, we finally got this thing passed.
We should have passed it the first 30 days.
And they're like, what was that that just ran by me?
Oh, that's a freaking glacier.
I mean, this place is so dadgum slow, Benny, and they're worthless.
And until y 'all get on us and tell us, get off your ass and do your job, or we're going to primary you, that's what happens.
And y 'all did.
Finally, and now we've got this thing passed.
benny johnson
Do it, Klein.
Do it.
We've got a sound effect for the congressman.
tim burchett
All right.
benny johnson
It sounds like, what's it called?
It's not Death Valley.
What is it at Tennessee?
What's the name?
tim burchett
Neyland Stadium.
benny johnson
Is that a nickname?
tim burchett
Oh, I don't know.
They get all kinds of crazy names.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're going to go to a game tonight.
Man, you can come down.
Sit with me.
benny johnson
What's next?
So what's next?
Okay, so we've locked in.
It could be better.
Obviously, it could be better.
What do you want to see next?
Our production team is raging about, listen, doge cuts.
tim burchett
Doge cuts, 100%.
benny johnson
Can we get doge cuts next?
tim burchett
And we can if you all force us to.
But here's the problem, as I've stated, and I don't care.
They get mad at me.
They came to see me on the house floor, so you can't be saying that stuff.
You got one over almost a thousand NGOs, non-government organizations working out of Afghanistan.
I had Marco Rubio in committee and I asked him, we're giving the Taliban 40 million.
This is just an example.
40 million a week.
Two years I've been working on this.
I got a freaking memo from the dadgum.
The State Department, and they're no friends of mine.
They're no friends of this country.
That's the deepest state there ever was one.
They've told us that we've given them close to $5 billion, and we're still doing it because it goes to the NGOs.
The Democrats fought that amendment that we added NGOs into the bill.
Why?
Because there's a thousand NGOs, and you know good and well that that money's coming right back to Washington.
That's what Elon told us.
Paper trail runs right back.
Now, can I find it?
No, I don't have access to those kind of computers.
But that's why they're squealing.
They're squealing about it.
benny johnson
So squealing about USAID cuts, you're saying that our suspicions are confirmed that the money that's spent at USAID goes right back to Democrat campaign coffers?
tim burchett
Almost 100%.
Almost 100%.
There's still some Republicans, I think, if they are.
You know, that's why the leadership, they sent somebody to see me, they sent my buddy, and he sits beside me.
Damn, man, some of the chairman are kind of upset what you said and, you know, go through all this stuff.
And I said, but you know, it's the truth, right?
He goes.
Well, yeah, we know it's the truth, but you just can't keep saying it.
And I keep saying it.
So that's why I always tell people I'm not suicidal.
benny johnson
You made a lot of news on our show saying that you believe that there could have been some real payola with some of these Biden pardons.
tim burchett
Have to be.
8,000 pardons.
I said 2,000 and it's come out.
Somebody said something about 8,000 freaking pardons.
You think Joe?
Joe couldn't remember what he'd had for breakfast.
He couldn't remember what the dadgum bathroom was.
And he reviewed 8,000 files on pardons.
Give me a freaking break.
This is so shady, and it's just Washington, D.C. It happens every day.
That's the thing.
It happens all the time.
But with Trump in there, we're focusing on some of this stuff.
And every department, every department is suspect.
And, you know, you just can't get past it.
benny johnson
LaMonica MacIver, are you in favor of kicking her out of Congress or punishing her to some degree?
tim burchett
Yeah, she committed a dadgum crime.
She got up there and she said, and then they tried to compare it to Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz and some others who went to the jail to see the J6ers who were jailed, weren't given any due process.
They didn't push their way in.
They didn't push anybody out of the way.
You know, Matt, I mean, he's a lover, not a fighter.
He's like me.
I mean, incredibly good looking guy.
He's not going to damage this.
And so now Marjorie, I worked out with her in the gym.
She could whoop a man.
She's strong, dude.
I would never cross Marjorie.
She's my dear friend.
I'm glad she's on my side.
My gosh, man.
I mean, I'm in there and I'm just trying not to pull a muscle and get my tennis shoes on.
unidentified
I go, what the heck's going on out here?
tim burchett
She's deadlifting hundreds of pounds.
I'm like, what in the world, man?
She's strong.
She's great.
benny johnson
What's the score?
Our audience.
So this chat, this chat right here.
Love hearts the chat.
This chat right here.
unidentified
Look at that.
benny johnson
There we go.
Hearts out to the chat.
You see all these dadgums?
unidentified
Look at this.
benny johnson
See all these dadgums?
tim burchett
Sweet.
benny johnson
Sweet.
tim burchett
I got it now.
I was wondering what was going on there.
benny johnson
So tell them what they should think of Republican leadership, right?
So they're going to say...
You know, there's quite a contingency of our audience is not a huge fan of Speaker Johnson.
tim burchett
I'm not always a fan of him.
benny johnson
Should this pull some people over to have, like, at the very least, Republican leadership is moving in the right direction?
And quite frankly, you know, like, we want to hold people accountable.
tim burchett
Let's just look at reality.
Who can get the votes to replace him?
Nobody.
It's all factioned up.
He's our guy.
Let's stick with what we got.
It's like Moses.
Moses wasn't, you know, he didn't want to even do it.
He didn't want to run the Jewish folks out of there.
And he ended up 40 years in the freaking wilderness.
But as it turned out, looking back, he's pretty good.
And I always say this, he doesn't cheat on his wife, and he's not a thief.
And so that's a good criteria of somebody in leadership.
He can't be compromised on those things.
benny johnson
You can fit the member of Congress that apply to that standard in a lifeboat in a Titanic lifeboat.
You can fit it in the dinghy.
Tim Burchett doesn't cheat on nobody because he just gave us an office tour and he sleeps in the office.
He showed us his bed.
He's got a little closet here and he just sleeps right in the office.
tim burchett
I've got a daughter who rides horses.
That's where my money goes.
I sold all my dadgum motorcycles.
I just got a few.
I'm selling them on eBay, too.
So what the heck?
I'm going to come out here one day.
I'm going to be just in my boxer shorts or whatever you see.
I sold it on eBay.
Have I showed you my wingtips?
Look at this.
$16 on eBay.
Can you believe that?
benny johnson
Really?
unidentified
They're antique wingtips made by Sears.
tim burchett
Made in America.
Because I'm so sick and tired of everything made in China.
I finally found some wingtips.
And then the hills come up.
Wait, what airport were we in when them things came off?
unidentified
Dulles.
tim burchett
Dulles Airport.
So I'm flip-flopping through.
They're going to sound like Clydesdale.
As a matter of fact, I picture me on the Clydesdale.
unidentified
It's an awesome one.
tim burchett
And then I got, so I have to be fully honest.
benny johnson
There's a wall of Louisville.
Louisville.
tim burchett
Louisville.
benny johnson
There's a wall of Louisville.
tim burchett
Louisville.
We got a Louisville in Tennessee spelled the same way.
Anyway, I got 26 bucks in these total.
unidentified
I just want to be totally.
benny johnson
All right.
So the congressman needs to catch a flight to get home.
But you've been awake for 48 hours.
48 straight hours.
Got the bill passed.
Can we get a round of applause here for the congressman?
That sounds more like a...
That sounds more like a Spartan chant.
Can we get the round of applause, Clyde?
tim burchett
Something's getting burned at this time.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
tim burchett
No, stick with Benny.
He's got the inside scoop on most of this stuff.
I hear people say, well, I heard this on the Benny show and I got to check it into it and that government's the truth.
So pray for our country.
Stick with our leaders.
Let's start electing some people with some guts.
I think...
A lot of congressmen are like Hollywood.
They'll do the right thing.
I mean, they'll put out an Andy Griffith show if it's profitable for them.
People in Congress will do what's right if you force them to do it, just like we should be forcing Hollywood more.
But force us to do what's right.
Hold us accountable.
When you don't do what you say to do, vote our butts out of office.
We're going to lose our country.
This debt thing is real, and we are compromised.
benny johnson
Will you commit to bringing up the Doge bill?
tim burchett
Oh, 100%.
We've already been dialing them all up.
The problem you're going to see, though, is it can take weeks to get a bill and then leadership can come in.
This is another thing that's stacked against somebody like myself who's not in leadership.
Leadership brings a bill and it goes to the front line and mine goes back to the back of line.
And that's why I've got my staff back here working around the clock on those bills, trying to get to ones.
Because some of them, Trump just said, do away with paper straws.
And so I've got to find where all the paper straws are throughout.
And that's legit.
He said that.
And so it's Trump.
So we're trying to work out all of them.
benny johnson
Congressman.
He's got a flight to catch.
We're going to continue the show.
We've got a lot more.
But just a massive shout-out, massive shout-out to the great Tim Burchett and Klein.
Why don't you pop up Tim Burchett Social, make sure that everybody's following.
And he's loaning us his office.
We get to do this.
This is the first time doing a – we'll do the rest of the stream from the congressman's desk as he catches his flight, has his own beautiful family.
tim burchett
Fill the brainwaves.
Oh, hey, I want to give you something, Danny.
This is my – Trump inauguration 2025, we actually sold out of this thing.
It says, thank y 'all for sending me here.
That's what I always say on my...
I don't think I used it, but I'd watch it anyway.
benny johnson
Here's some readings for your flight.
UFOs and nukes.
tim burchett
Save that.
One day it'll be worth nothing.
Thanks, brother.
Oh, hey, this is my mama.
This is the coolest thing in here.
This is my mama.
She flew an airplane during the Second World War.
I had lunch the other day with my buddy, Kid Rock.
His real name is Bobby.
And he always says that, you know, he's the American Badass.
And I explained it.
unidentified
I was raised by the American Badass.
tim burchett
See you, brother.
benny johnson
The great Tim Burchett, everyone.
All right.
unidentified
Sweet.
tim burchett
Fridge later is full or whatever.
All right.
Fridge is full.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Man.
All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have other members of Congress that will be joining us.
We are excited about it.
I'm having to catch up here, so please forgive me.
And this is our first time ever letting her rip from a congressman's desk.
We did go live during the Cash Patel confirmation vote inside of the Senate.
And this is our first time ever just kind of letting her rip from a...
From a congressman's desk, and here we are.
I wish I could show you the full office.
It's really beautiful.
In fact, we can.
We did an office tour.
Did you send that in?
unidentified
I did.
benny johnson
Okay.
We did an office tour with Tim Burchett, production team.
Let me know if you got that.
Let me know if you got that.
That's right.
I'll be drinking my coffee out of the Tim Burchett mug.
You never know what's going to happen in D.C. We didn't plan on this.
We had one of those sanitized...
And what up, Chad?
I freaking love you.
You just never know what you're going to get here.
We had one of those sanitized professional studios booked right so that we could do the show and do a standard show and do it with our professional setup and everything.
But as soon as I saw that the bill was passed, I was like, who do we need to hear from on this bill?
And we're going to hear from Tim Burchett.
And I texted him and he's like, come on down, man.
Let's go.
Let's do it.
I've been asleep for like zero hours.
So let's go.
We have a Tim Burchett office tour.
I think we have to do that.
Let me know.
Oh, you got to.
Are you on Telegram, Nick?
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
Okay.
So just pop it over.
ALX connect with Nick on Telegram.
It'll be the best way to send it.
It's having trouble sending.
Telegram's much better.
But anyway, ladies and gentlemen, here we go.
Locking back in.
I'm ready to rock.
We have other members of Congress who will be joining the program here.
Forgive me as we load up the script and as we load up more that we're going to talk about in just a moment with Representative Andy Ogles.
Who's spectacular, also from Tennessee.
And Representative Pat Harrigan, who's a kick-ass Green Beret, who's going to be joining us as well.
Tonight, or actually in just a few hours, we will be at the White House.
We'll be at the White House with RFK.
It's going to be neat.
We're going to be doing some MAGA and then some MAHA work.
And let me tell you, there's been some problems at the White House.
There's been some fatalities, let's just say, at the White House.
We're going to cover that in just a second.
Get your big boy britches on because that was really exciting, what happened yesterday.
The world changed forever yesterday when Donald Trump dragged the South African president into the White House and just nuked him.
I mean, nuked them in front of the entire world.
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Okay, Spock, talk about getting burned.
Talk about getting, like, taking one straight to the face.
Talk about getting burned, like, to their face.
Holy smokes.
The South African president yesterday.
Went into the Oval.
ALX, let me know.
Do we have the full clip?
I want that full breakdown.
Because what happened was South African president comes in and says, no, we're not genociding whites in our country.
But they are actually doing that.
And President Trump then played the video for the South African president of members of his party calling for the genocide of whites.
It's an unbelievable moment in American history.
It's similar to what happened with Zelensky.
And we're going to hop in.
We're going to jump into this right now.
Let's freaking go.
donald j trump
Natalie here, somebody here to turn that.
unidentified
I could show you a couple of things.
donald j trump
I just, I have to, it has to be responded to.
Let me see the articles, please, if you would.
And, excuse me, turn the lights down.
Turn the lights down.
And just put this on.
It's right behind you.
unidentified
There's nothing this parliament can do.
With or without you, people are going to occupy land.
We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.
We don't care.
We can do whatever you want to do.
Who are you to tell us whether you can occupy land or not?
You are going to occupy land?
This is the type smiley world.
A revolution demands at some point that must be killing because the killing is part of a revolution.
The killing is part of a revolution.
The man of T.J. is P.E. is a wise man.
So these people, when you want to eat them hot, grow up by a wise man.
Their feet at heaven were paid, because they're tons of wise men.
Not because my name will not be touched.
They will be touched.
No one.
But you are standing with this white face.
You are cutting the throat of one face.
It's like that.
Shoot!
Kill!
No one's done!
Kill the people!
The papa!
Kill the gruber!
The mama!
Shut the king!
The mama!
Kill the poor!
The mama!
Kill the poor!
The mama!
I was a Muslim judge in the future.
I'm saying to you what's not called for the killing of white people.
At least for now.
I can't ever see the picture.
I mean, you don't understand some of you watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter.
donald j trump
It's amazing.
We go.
unidentified
It sounds like a little side of the floor.
I'm going to go.
We will expropriate them without compensation whether they like it or not.
If they object, they can seek a refugee in America.
I'm sorry.
donald j trump
These are burial sites right here.
Burial sites.
Over a thousand of white farmers.
And those cars are lined up.
To pay love on a Sunday morning.
Each one of those white things you see is a cross.
And there's approximately a thousand of them.
They're all white farmers.
The family of white farmers.
And those cars aren't driving.
They're stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed.
And it's a terrible sight.
I've never seen anything like it.
both sides of the road you have crosses Those people are all killed.
unidentified
Have they told you where that is, Mr. President?
No, I'd like to know where that is, because this I've never seen.
Okay.
donald j trump
I mean, it's in South Africa this week.
unidentified
We need to find out.
We need to find out.
benny johnson
There we go.
All right.
Okay, what's up?
Okay, we are here live now.
That clip allowed us to bring in our next member of Congress.
Please introduce yourself, sir, and tell us, how did you vote on this Big Beautiful Bill?
unidentified
Hey, Pat Harrigan, 10th District of North Carolina, voted a big yes on the Big Beautiful Bill.
benny johnson
Congratulations on the Big Beautiful Bill.
unidentified
Thank you.
That's incredible.
You guys are really amazing.
benny johnson
You've got to let it play through.
Try it again, Clyde.
Try it again.
unidentified
Try it again.
There you go.
We've got a live studio audience here.
benny johnson
Pat Harrington is the first time on the show.
Just came back from Washington to the Vietnam Memorial, which is pretty dope.
unidentified
Yeah, there's a group of veterans every year get together and go down, wash the Vietnam Memorial.
It's a really, really cool thing because what you've got to do before you wash it, you've got to prepare it.
And to prepare it, you've got to take all the mementos that people come and bring from all over the country.
And set down for their loved ones and just what's down there, the little mementos with the different scriptures on it, different inscriptions, different little pieces of I remember you and this, that, or the other.
It's a really special touching time.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Okay, so that went well.
Everything's nice and sparking.
unidentified
Absolutely.
It went great.
Yeah.
And doing that...
benny johnson
It's the most powerful memorial.
It's the most powerful memorial.
unidentified
Without a doubt, because the first time the country really turned its back on its military, right?
And to go do that and have that kind of be the cherry on top after this big, beautiful bill in the last 36 hours that we've been working on it with no sleep, and to get to go down there and finish that, that was really cool.
benny johnson
But you're a Green Beret, bro, so you're like ready to rip.
unidentified
But I'm an old Green Beret.
I'm not a young guy anymore, so...
benny johnson
So what's up?
What's harder?
Becoming a Green Beret and going through that training and that school and that skull cracking or having to sit here in Congress and wait for something to happen?
unidentified
It's different.
Both are difficult.
One is difficult from the perspective of you're being really tough on your body.
You're being tough on mentally anguishing in terms of the training or whatever it might be.
And the other is tough up here because it's so easy to see the problems.
Everybody sees the problems, but up here we don't deal with them.
In our private companies, we see a problem, we solve the problem immediately.
And up here, we study the problem.
We spend a lot of money dancing around the problem, waiting to kind of see if the problem will still persist five, six, seven years later and never really get to solve the problem until it absolutely becomes a crisis.
And that's really frustrating to watch.
benny johnson
So this is a good step, at least in a neutral or plateaued direction.
This isn't what everybody wanted from the bill.
But the bill is like a good step in the right direction.
unidentified
It's definitely not what everybody wanted from the bill, particularly if you're on the more conservative side of the House.
But the reality is probably the best of what could be negotiated.
It absolutely encompasses the broad majority of President Trump's policies and gives them the permanence of law.
And overall, from that perspective, the best of what you can get across the finish line is the definition of a good bill.
benny johnson
I like the border security.
It's the most we've ever spent on border security.
We had a bunch of fraud Republican leaders that promised us border security and funding, and nothing ever happened.
So this is billions for border security, $275 billion?
unidentified
Yes, it's a lot.
And ultimately, what that hopefully does is it makes it impossible for future administrations to fail to obey and enforce the law.
Because at some point...
President Trump reduced illegal crossings by 99% just by changing authorities, right?
And it's something that us military guys know.
We didn't lose the last 30 years of war because we lost the war.
We lost the war because our politicians lost the war because they tied our hands behind our backs and they handcuffed us and they didn't let us do what we do best, which is go win.
And President Biden didn't allow...
The Border Patrol to fundamentally do their job because he didn't give them the authority to do it.
That being said, we want to make sure that that never happens.
We want to have an absolutely world-class border where we know every single person that's coming across, who they are, what their intentions are, make sure that we don't have national security concerns here.
And that's exactly what we've done.
So this has got to be a big victory day for you.
Yes?
Yeah.
Is that your favorite part of the bill?
My personal favorite part of the bill was the suppressors.
I'm a big Second Amendment guy.
So I come out of the firearm space.
Yeah, it takes the tax off the suppressors.
And I wish we went further with that, too.
benny johnson
That sucks, man, because I bought a suppressor like a couple months ago.
unidentified
It's going to get a lot easier, Benny.
It's about to get a lot easier and cheaper.
benny johnson
Okay, well, it makes me happy for my fellow countrymen.
What a pain in the ass.
unidentified
No doubt.
benny johnson
Oh, great.
You just bought this thing.
Now you gotta wait eight months to get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Crazy.
benny johnson
That's insane, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
For something that's not even a firearm.
benny johnson
That's right.
Like 300 years ago, I could have bought a Canon and just wandered around Massachusetts with my Canon shooting birds or whatever.
unidentified
It's wild how we've decided to classify some things and the capricious and arbitrary nature of how the ATF goes and does business.
We're starting to bring that to it.
benny johnson
I haven't done a lot of research on this, so tell me what's happened now with suppressors.
unidentified
Well, really, all it did is just took the $200 stamp away.
And we wanted to go much further, but really, Rich Hudson deserves the credit for getting this into reconciliation.
He did a ton of work on it and really kind of put his foot down.
But a lot of folks were kind of working in the background alongside of him to make sure that, hey, we notched some 2A wins here because it looked like we had this golden opportunity to get a lot of 2A wins and we weren't going to get any.
And there was kind of some...
benny johnson
Where would you like to see him go?
So in a dream bill, Congressman, where would you like to see it?
unidentified
I'd like to see the full HPA brought in.
Right.
So where suppressors aren't even regulated as a.
Certainly under the NFA.
Would love to see them not even regulated as a firearm.
And they're a firearm accessory, right?
And people think, they call them silencers, right?
Nothing's silent about a silencer.
I mean, it's still loud, but at the very least, you get to preserve your hearing.
Most other countries, even European countries, as liberal as they've become, you can just go in and buy a suppressor.
Like that.
benny johnson
Is that so?
unidentified
Yes, 100%.
Yeah, because what is it going to do?
You're going to hit somebody over the head with a cylindrical object?
benny johnson
Tim Burchard just gave me that.
unidentified
That's all it is.
I don't know what's on Tim Burchard's desk.
I didn't know what was in it.
Wasn't sure what I was picking up.
benny johnson
That's what we're talking about today.
We're going there next.
That and a carburetor.
unidentified
Yeah, this is like one of those pinky, what are we doing tonight?
Trying to take over the world.
Tim Burchard things, right?
I appreciate it.
benny johnson
Older millennials, stand up and be proud.
Okay, yeah, anything can happen in Tim Burgessau.
This is really something else.
That's his bed right there.
I can't believe it.
unidentified
Super nervous being in here, by the way.
We're on the baseball team together, and I've come to know Tim.
There's a whole wall of bats.
benny johnson
Is this right?
unidentified
I feel like I've come to know too much in some regards.
benny johnson
Yeah, he was telling us about working out with Marjorie Taylor Greene and how she kicked his ass.
unidentified
She's a beast.
benny johnson
Okay, so in a...
In a bill that is properly written with the direction of Second Amendment freedom, what would we see out of this Republican Congress?
What would you have crafted?
unidentified
You know, what I really would like to see is the entire, ultimately, right, is constitutional carry.
That's the way that it should be.
benny johnson
Nationwide.
unidentified
Right, but shy of that, right, because the art of the possible is 50-state reciprocity.
And I do think that that...
Was possible in this.
I actually kind of tried to go down the road on it a little ways.
There's different ways to do it, creating pay-fors, and that's maybe not the best.
Some of that could be good.
Some of it could be bad.
Functionally, we could have gotten to someone's ability to carry across all 50 states, but they're...
Just came some potential constitutional issues that, you know, sometimes it's better to just be where you're at right now, and we'll continue to work over that.
And I think we're going to get another bite at the apple on reconciliation anyway, as long as we get this through the Senate, and the Senate doesn't completely sabotage this sucker, which they've become pretty good at doing.
So we should get a second bite at the apple, and hopefully we can be a little bit more two-way focused now that we've got a broad portion of the bigger picture.
benny johnson
He's a Green Beret.
He's like 6 '7".
They can just send you over to have a conversation with Mitch McConnell.
You just have a polite conversation.
unidentified
That's right.
I don't know if there really is any possibility of having a polite conversation with the Senate.
As I've been taught since I've gotten here, they say...
That the House, you know, the Democrats, they're kind of your adversary, but the real enemy up here is the Senate.
benny johnson
Yeah, okay, so speaking of that, military man, law and order, LaMonica McIver punching police, military police, Homeland Security police, actually.
unidentified
And getting arrested for it.
benny johnson
That's right, so what should happen there?
unidentified
As she should get arrested for it, and she should be prosecuted.
That's exactly what should happen.
benny johnson
But what about Congress?
Congress has a role to play here.
unidentified
You know, look, I think Congress has a role to play in terms of being responsible and respectful citizens in their discourse, right?
Just because you're Congress doesn't mean that you have any sort of special dispensation that Other citizens don't get to have.
You're still a member of the citizenry here.
And you've got to follow the law.
President Trump is creating an environment where, you know, we are going to enforce law and order in this country.
And that's exactly what's playing out.
That's great.
benny johnson
So would you be in favor of censure or kicking off committees?
You know, she's on the Homeland Security Committee.
Yo, she's on the Homeland Security Committee, bro.
unidentified
Which is crazy.
I know.
benny johnson
And here she's punching Homeland Security officers.
unidentified
It's crazy.
benny johnson
So would you be in favor of that?
unidentified
Absolutely.
100%.
Yeah.
And that's the direction that you were going.
Forgive me for nothing.
benny johnson
No, no.
Of course.
You know, so there's the prosecution that's happening with Lena Haba.
You know, she's a friend of the show.
We invited her on.
We want her to kind of explain where that is.
And we don't want to keep gloves on because we don't want this to happen.
And we also know that there are members...
There are members of the Trump and MAGA movement from New Jersey that languished for years on the same charges.
There's zero direct evidence that they ever hit or punched or touched a police officer.
But on the same charges on January 6th, they were locked up.
All the way through Trump's pardon.
So it was effectively five years of people from her district, same federal charges, same judges even.
And so everyone's here screaming, no one's above the law.
Okay, fine, prove it.
unidentified
That former two-tier system of justice that we had is now a one-tier system of justice, and it's moving in the right direction.
benny johnson
What about Republican leadership?
This is an audience that is...
We're not haters, okay?
We just want the system.
We want things to work.
What we really want is the codification of President Trump's agenda.
We really like the landslide victory.
We like winning seven swing states.
We think that the American public, like, if the Republicans don't backstab the president, we think that it's going to make very much a golden era.
We think we're looking at, like, 12 or 20 years, maybe 100 years of, like, MAGA leadership in this country.
The Republicans need to get off their ass and codify the agenda.
Republican leadership seems like this is a good step in the right direction.
What's next?
Doge?
A Doge bill?
Executive order bills?
Like codifying executive orders for the president?
unidentified
I think a lot of us would have liked to see some of the savings that were identified in Doge actually codified in this reconciliation bill.
benny johnson
Are you a member of the Doge caucus?
I don't know, actually.
unidentified
Yes, I am.
But it's...
benny johnson
Baller!
tim burchett
No doubt.
unidentified
I mean, look, we've got serious debt and deficit issues up here.
I think everybody...
And this particular bill, it doesn't exacerbate that or those, but it doesn't really make them better.
I mean, you got to think, right?
We're saving in this reconciliation package.
We're going to save $1.6 trillion over the next 10-year budgetary window.
We are going to spend $87 trillion in the next 10 years.
And so when you take a look at the total savings, you're going to save...
You're going to spend $87 trillion.
We're saving $1.6 trillion of that.
All we're doing is we're taking the deficit curve and we're like, just like a tiny bit.
I mean, just like the ever so slightest.
I mean, honestly, if Congress was not able to get this type of savings across the board, Probably would have left because it's like we're never going to be able to do it.
There's no hope whatsoever.
And I think that because we at least have something that is going to achieve some modicum of savings, and I think it's going to shave off about $120 billion in the first year from the deficit.
Now, our deficit's $1.8 trillion.
So take that down to...
165, 17, right?
Again, just kind of a little tiny blip.
It's better than nothing, and it's better than what Congress has done in the past.
And so we still have a lot of work to do because we're going to borrow so much more money than we're going to bring in over even just the next five years, let alone this year, let alone the 10-year budgetary window.
We have not made demonstrable progress towards fixing that.
Now, what we have done is we have codified some really good policies.
And assuming it gets through the Senate the way that it is right now.
And those policies should create a pro-growth environment that allows small businesses, middle class, and really every single level of taxpayer to be successful, take more of the money that they earn, keep it in their pocket, invest it the way that they want to invest it in order to grow their wealth or live their American dream.
And that will have an impact down the road on our revenues because it will increase revenues.
We saw that from the 2017 team.
You know, this is great policy, and that's awesome, but good policy, kind of neutral on debt, right?
Not a huge move in the right direction on debt.
So we've got to be cognizant of that, and we've got to deal with it.
benny johnson
In conclusion, Congressman, you've got to be really happy about what's happening with the American military right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
This is something that's dear and dear to your heart.
Yes, it is.
Absolutely.
benny johnson
If you don't have good and strong and fit women signing up for the American military, then we are going to have a tough role as a country.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
So talk me through the changes.
I don't know how closely you're working with Pete Hegseth, but I assume relatively closely.
Yes.
You're one of the members of Congress to still probably do a push-up.
unidentified
And a pull-up.
benny johnson
Yeah.
unidentified
More than one.
benny johnson
Okay.
We already have recommendations in the chat to say, like, well, Burchett was talking about going to the gym with MTG, so the chat now wants us to go do that.
unidentified
You guys got to see Burchett in the gym.
I mean, like, the guy is about this thick, right?
I mean, he's just...
It's great.
He's in there every day.
He is in there every single day, which...
benny johnson
Them fighting words from Birch's desk.
unidentified
He's not here.
Easy.
benny johnson
Talk us through what can we expect over the next couple of years as a reset?
We're in a neck-snapping period of culture change in the military.
Talk us through it.
unidentified
Well, from a cultural perspective, we want to go back to meritocracy.
That's exactly what Pete Hegseth effectively campaigned on in order to become the selector, selection for SecDef and then Ultimate.
got across the finish line in the Senate.
And he's effectuating that change.
I mean, there was a cultural rot in the military that I saw as I started to leave.
So I left the Special Forces in 2016.
One of of the last things that I had to do was give my team transgender awareness training.
No.
It started to create Really?
But, I mean, that was happening in the Special Forces at the end of the Obama administration in 2016, right?
And what I saw when I came into Congress in 2025...
benny johnson
In the Special Forces?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
100%.
It's there.
It was there.
And, you know, like, they don't go along with it.
It was there.
It was being infused into it as I was leaving service.
And when I came back in 2025 and now started getting involved in the military again, so basically like eight years of separation, really, because end of 16, beginning of 25, eight years gap there.
What I saw talking to our senior leaders was nothing short of absolute cultural rot.
I mean, you know, giving speeches that have land acknowledgments in them, referring to servicemen and servicewomen as servicepersons, right?
That's a very specific term.
And when someone says that, when a general gets up and they say that publicly, that is a very, very intentional term.
And it tells you everything you need to know about what's going on in their brain and in their heart.
And we have to root that out of the military.
It's got to go away because that will cost American blood when reality actually sets in and we have to deal with some really difficult decisions that aren't prioritized by a DEI sort of a schema.
benny johnson
Hold on.
I know the chat knows the land acknowledgments, but I just want to set the table here.
You're telling me that American military generals would get up and say, I'm speaking here.
On land that was once the Choctaw tribe.
unidentified
I witnessed it personally after coming into office.
benny johnson
The same American military that fought to gain that land and spill blood, quite famously, all across the nation in order to secure that land.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
benny johnson
And they're sitting there now kneeling before...
The same conquered tribes.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
As American military brass.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
That is sickening, bro.
That is disgusting.
unidentified
Four-star general.
benny johnson
Would they go to Germany and kneel before Nazi high command or go to Imperial Japan and surrender?
That's effectively surrendering to the British in Yorktown.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
So they go to Yorktown and be like, this was once a British base, okay?
And we want to acknowledge the general.
unidentified
Oh shoot, what was it?
benny johnson
Cornwallis.
We want to acknowledge Cornwallis was here.
That's what they're doing?
unidentified
Yes.
You're exactly right.
And to give you kind of the perspective on what type of an impact this has, when you say kneeling down and when you say surrendering, I was in Copenhagen a couple weeks ago.
On a defense trip, because we are working very heavily on the Armed Services Committee to make sure that our European allies are paying their fair share for their own defense, that we don't care more about their defense than they do.
And proud to report, happy to report, that a lot of European countries are actually stepping up.
They're significantly increasing their defense spending.
But we were with the Prime Minister of Denmark.
And the Secretary of State, equivalent of the Minister of Defense, all these very senior-level folks were talking.
And one of our delegation asked, and I said, you know, this is such a beautiful city.
How did you preserve the history through World War II?
How did Copenhagen survive?
And I will not say who said it, because it would be an international problem, right?
But they said, oh, that's easy.
We surrendered.
And you've got to understand, like, this is...
The mentality we have to root out of our military like it has no place in America.
No, no, no.
That was a foreign, a very senior foreign level person.
benny johnson
Oh, man.
Okay.
That's what we call a DEI hire.
unidentified
It's scary when you have that because you've got to understand the military, it's real.
Went to West Point.
And everybody at West Point and all my peers are like, you know, Pat, you get a free education and you realize, you go through it and you're like, man, this is really incredible.
This is a great honor.
This education, I didn't have to pay for it.
And you realize it is not free the second a bullet snaps right past your head.
It's not free at all.
And those decisions become very real.
The consequences become very...
And there is no substitute for victory at that point in time.
And if we have people that morally equivocate on what our values ought to be, what we should stand for in this country, we're going to lose the next fight that we might not choose to fight, right?
We've been so weak for so long.
And this is where I get very passionate about defense because I ran for Congress because...
I was convinced that the way that we left Afghanistan condemned the world to conflict.
benny johnson
For real.
unidentified
Because we've been so weak for so long.
We're pussies.
We're pussies on the whole stage.
benny johnson
And not only that, we slaughtered and killed our own people.
100%.
Right.
Which is crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Do you remember watching?
I mean, you probably watched it from a very different sense than I did.
But I think everybody in the audience, let me know in the chat if you remember this.
Because we were live during this.
You were watching the pullout from Afghanistan.
It was summer 2021.
And there was this feeling that something horrible was about to happen.
And you watched the Taliban swoop in.
And you watched everything collapse.
And you saw the helicopters.
It's amazing how they buried that footage.
You saw the helicopters taken off from the U.S. Embassy.
And there was this cloud of darkness where it's like...
And something horrible is about to happen.
It was so predictable.
Guys like me, I did not serve, right?
But guys like me, just regular Americans could feel that energy that these jackasses are so incompetent.
They're being so retarded here that something terrible is about to happen.
And it was like when it happened, when that bomb hit, it was like it makes your blood boil, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it does.
And we loosed the chains of darkness around the world through that excerpt from Afghanistan.
Sorry for the brand.
No, it's totally, it's All of us kind of felt I haven't slept for the last 36 hours.
I didn't sleep for almost four days when Afghanistan fell because I knew what it did to my kids' generation.
And so we have to set the conditions for us to win the next conflict.
And look, up here, my charter, if I could do two things, number one would be don't fight wars we shouldn't fight.
It's incredibly important, but we have to absolutely set the conditions to win the ones we have to fight.
And what we have to understand is because we've been so weak for so long that we have ceded the choice of whether we enter conflict to our enemies.
We are so used in this country.
To choosing whether we get into a fight or not.
And I think that we've been so weak for so long that we no longer are in control of that decision.
And we have to be prepared to fight.
And the way to win the next conflict is actually to not fight it because we properly set the conditions to win it and we properly deterred it.
That's what we have to do.
We absolutely have to transform, fundamentally transform our military.
And I think we've actually done that through the reconciliation process.
The $150 billion of additional defense spending that we have.
benny johnson
Golden down?
unidentified
Yes.
Largely very good spending.
Largely.
Not perfect.
I'm a freshman here, but from a government perspective, it's largely very good.
What I'm now concerned about is the $850 billion baseline that we absolutely have to doge.
Cut, go through, and reinvest into technologies that will actually help us deter and defeat China.
Because if we're being honest, what we've been investing in has not helped us win the last 30 years of war.
And we've got to be sober-minded about that.
benny johnson
It's pretty clear in Ukraine, right?
Which is like a straight-up proxy war by the CIA, and it's not gone well.
With this audience, what we want is peace.
With this audience, we don't want stupid.
The reason why we hate these wars in the Middle East, in Gaza, in Ukraine, is that these are the sparks that turn into raging fires that pull us in.
It's not just our treasure and our treasury, which is hundreds of billions of dollars, but it's also, of course, our greatest treasure, which is our people.
Get put in the dirt for other countries.
And we're sick of it.
It's an entire generation that's just sick of that.
unidentified
And even more so than that, you have an entire generation of veterans that are just completely disillusioned and broken.
benny johnson
Yes.
unidentified
Right?
Because, and it's like, look, if you want to, and really, please understand this, and I know we're all on the same side here, but if you want to help veterans, don't fight wars we shouldn't fight.
Absolutely let them win the ones we do.
That's it.
benny johnson
Yep.
Yep.
unidentified
Word.
benny johnson
That's an entire generation walking through and then like having smart defense.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
Letting Elon and letting some of these kick-ass companies, some of these AI companies build some really scary shit.
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
And letting it rip.
Like the best of terms, right?
unidentified
Right.
And that's what we're doing, right?
So we're working a systematic process now on the House Armed Services Committee.
Like we got the $150 billion of good spend.
Now we got the $850 billion.
Half of that is payroll.
So that's just off the top.
That's going to our soldiers.
Now we've got to focus our Army, our Navy.
Our Marine Corps, our Air Force, on making sure that we're investing in assets that are actually relevant to deterring and defeating China.
We've got to get rid of all these parochialisms that we have.
I've been calling and trying to educate all of my compadres up here in Congress that, look, just because it's in your district doesn't mean it's actually relevant to deterring or defeating China.
We've got to be very clear-minded about this because we owe the American soldier, sailor, airman, and marine the very best technology because that's what China is providing to their troops.
And if we want to not fight this war, we really want to win it, we've got to be able to deter it.
And if we fail to deter it, we're going to fight it.
And the good news is that the same pathway by which we deter it is actually the same pathway by which we win it.
So we're moving in the right direction right now, and I'm very pleased about that.
benny johnson
Final dorky question.
unidentified
Do we need aircraft carriers anymore?
benny johnson
It's like a big raging debate on the internet right now.
The aircraft carrier is the most powerful weapon for the last 50 years.
Do we need them anymore?
unidentified
There is a lot of wisdom and understanding.
That they are a great source of pride and they have been a great source of security for us as a nation, as a populace that looks at our aircraft carriers and our sailors standing and saluting as they're coming in through the bay or going out to sea.
That that is our ability to project force around the world.
That is our ability to secure the United States of America from threats abroad.
It has been one of our most incredible assets.
But as we've learned from the Ukrainian conflict, where the Ukrainian military without a navy has sunk half of Russia's Black Sea naval fleet without a single ship of their own, you have to understand that in...
Current circumstances with the proliferation of relatively inexpensive yet very capable technologies that some of these great, incredibly expensive and exquisite assets that we have are in some ways becoming actual strategic liabilities.
And so the answer is, yes, we still need them.
I don't know how many more we need to produce.
The reality is there's tactics and techniques and procedures of how we can use them and keep them safe and still use them to project force in the next conflict.
But how relevant those are 20 or 30 years from now, which is the service life of a carrier now even pushing out to 40, I think is an honest question that we have to really analyze here before investing too much more in them.
benny johnson
Really cool.
Really cool.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, everyone's like, China can make a lot of aircraft carriers.
I was like, well, yeah, but they could be smoked very quickly.
unidentified
From under the water, from above the water, from the top of the water.
And look, we have to have a seafaring capability.
There's no question about that.
But when we try to overcome the tonnage deficit that everybody knows about that exists with China, even amongst the sum of all of our ally base, there's a still significant tonnage gap.
There is some wisdom in saying, well, we might be better off investing in technologies that deny.
Their use of their capabilities as opposed to continuing to invest in trying to catch up with our capability gap.
Just figure out ways to eliminate the threat.
We're looking very carefully.
benny johnson
We're just talking about aircraft carriers.
unidentified
That's all.
What's up?
benny johnson
We got Byron Donalds.
unidentified
How are you?
Good.
That was a really great meeting.
Thanks.
This is awesome, by the way.
This is terrific.
What's up, you guys?
benny johnson
We've got Byron Donald's roll.
unidentified
What's up, Dave?
benny johnson
Come on.
All right.
unidentified
It's a long night.
It's good to see you.
Yo, yo, yo.
byron donalds
We love Timmy B. Timmy B, America.
This is the guy.
We love him.
benny johnson
Congratulations, man.
I know you were fighting hard for this bill.
You were going on TV.
You were letting her rip.
You were throwing some elbows.
byron donalds
Not too many.
You don't want to hurt people.
You don't want to hurt people.
It's a professional environment.
benny johnson
You hurt Kevin McCarthy that one time.
unidentified
You said, Kevin McCarthy, man, you're not going to move me.
benny johnson
I'm a lineman.
You're not going to move me.
byron donalds
You're not really going to move me.
But, I mean, look, I just think that when you're doing this type of legislating where it's high stakes, everything's going into a package.
There's pieces that are flying all over the place.
You just want to make sure that, you know, people are at least getting a good chunk of what they're looking for and you try to get it done.
benny johnson
It's a massive victory.
byron donalds
Yeah.
benny johnson
There's a big victory.
People should be happy with this.
There's no such thing as a perfect bill.
People should be happy about this.
Name the top three.
Top line three.
Big.
Happy.
byron donalds
Permanency in Donald Trump's tax policy, which even the Democrats, as much as they campaigned against and as much as they talked crap about saying it was tax cuts for the rich when Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House and the auto pen was running the executive branch, they didn't get rid of it.
They kept that tax policy.
And so they could say whatever they want, but they kept it in place because it's the best tax policy the country's ever had.
We've now made that permanent.
No tax on ticks.
No tax on tips.
No tax on overtime.
That stuff's all in here.
benny johnson
You can tax ticks as much as you want.
byron donalds
Listen, man.
It's been an interesting 36 hours.
So bear with me.
benny johnson
You've been awake for 36 hours?
byron donalds
I've been awake for 36 hours.
Bear with me.
So, you know, we do that.
benny johnson
A lot of coffee?
Do you need coffee?
unidentified
Actually, I had a half a Celsius.
byron donalds
And I did have some tequila around 3 a.m.
America, look, I keep it straight.
This is what we do.
This is what we do.
But no, we secure...
benny johnson
That was a rap horn.
That's a rap horn, Klein.
Okay?
tim burchett
There we go.
byron donalds
Thank you.
We actually build border wall.
That's great stuff.
We get the money to Tom Holman.
benny johnson
It's the most money for the border ever.
byron donalds
Yes.
We get money to Tom and Christy to actually begin the largest repatriation force in American history.
Modernizing DOD, energy stuff.
I mean, there's a lot of great things in this package.
The stuff we did around Medicaid is a start.
And I think that that's where some of the last minute negotiations were around was how do we make sure that the non-expansion states like Tennessee, like Texas, Wisconsin, Florida, don't get forced.
Down this inertia to expand.
There was some good work done on that in the 11th hour of this bill.
So nothing's perfect, but in terms of all the things that got through, it's far better than anything that Democrats ever did in this town.
Not even close.
benny johnson
Okay, so this is codifying President Trump's agenda.
Big victories.
Talk to me about this.
And I know it's getting into the weeds a little bit and some people gloss over it, but as the next governor of Florida.
What does this SALT expansion mean?
What does it mean from a state level?
The critics are saying that this could mean major – they could really raid tax revenues for left-wing causes and could really – This could really be major bailouts for California, New York, and other states like that.
How does that work from a state level?
byron donalds
What it means is that if your state has a heavy tax burden, you essentially get to write that off on your federal taxes.
So the federal government does subsidize the payment of high-level state taxes and local taxes.
So Chicago, Illinois, New York City, Los Angeles, they benefit tremendously out of this.
Because their city taxes or state taxes essentially come off the number that people owe in their federal income taxes.
So that's the downside of it.
I think if you're dealing with other states where I think, depending on the reading, if you have property tax, higher property taxes.
I.e.
some parts of Florida, there might be an ability to use the SALT deduction for that.
But we'll see how that fully gets vetted out once the bill actually gets signed into law and what they do over at IRS when they write all the regulations around it.
But yes, it is largely a bailout for blue states, something that I did not want.
The blue states need to fix their problems, not come here and look for subsidies.
benny johnson
How does that get in there?
What's the battle there?
And then can you talk about Trump stepping in?
This doesn't happen without Trump.
byron donalds
Look, I mean, how it happens is you have about, you know, we have 220 votes in the Congress.
So you have enough members out of New York and California who said, this is going to be my hill to die on.
And they basically stood their ground and the leadership had to give them a deal.
And that's basically what happened.
At the end of the day, all deals are cut when you have leverage.
And you needed their votes to get everything else done.
And so you had to come in and do business with them.
benny johnson
What's next?
Is it doge cuts?
What's next?
byron donalds
The doge stuff, the rescission package, in my view, that's got to hit the floor.
We have to see that package.
Let the Senate get the big, beautiful bill to the president's desk.
The rescission package needs to be the next thing.
After that, we do need to look at, we're going to have to do some farm bill stuff.
Appropriations is coming.
And I think we're going to have to start taking a look at FISA again.
That comes up.
Again, next year.
So that stuff's going to start coming into play.
But yeah, monumental lift, you know, a lot of people had their hands in this.
I know victory laps are being taken this morning, but I can't tell you, man, whether it's, you know, Main Street, Freedom Caucus, House leadership, White House team, the president, a lot of hands went into the getting this done.
benny johnson
So, hands.
Laying on hands.
LaMonica MacGyver.
She ever, like, give you a four-inch shiver?
She ever push you around in the halls?
LaMonica MacGyver, she ever violent towards you?
She ever shoved you or anything?
Push you in an elevator?
Shoved you in a locker?
We've seen it on tape.
We've seen it.
byron donalds
It's possible.
Come on, Benny.
They're not doing that.
That's not happening.
benny johnson
What's going to happen with that?
A lot of people focused on that saying, wow, how is she allowed to, like, hit a police officer?
byron donalds
You know, I think what the Attorney General, what they're going to do with this thing has to run its course.
We'll see what happens there.
You know, I know Alina Hava.
When she decides that she's fired up, she's not going to let it go.
And so we'll see where it ends up.
But I think that whole process is to finish before you have any further conversations about what happens here on the Hill.
benny johnson
Really quickly, Florida governor, that race is looking solid.
How's it going?
byron donalds
I feel great.
We're raising money, picking up steam around the state, meeting people everywhere.
Actually, yesterday at the White House, while there was a negotiation on the final elements of the bill, as a Florida State Seminole, I was there to congratulate the Florida Gators.
I'm growing, Benny.
I'm growing.
I'm becoming more magnanimous in my older years.
But I will tell you, the president announced to me there was a roar.
They were excited.
benny johnson
You got to do some rallies with them?
You got to come down for the general?
byron donalds
Oh, yeah.
But the big thing I'm looking forward to is college football season in Florida.
I got some stops to make.
College game day, baby.
Political style.
benny johnson
Young people moving to Florida, man, is a lot of energy.
A lot of really good energy.
How do you keep that up?
We were going through on the swatting bill and they were like, wait a second.
Every single broadcaster is...
And the movement is out of Florida.
You got so much energy.
You got so much, like, dynamicism in the state.
And you don't want to lose that to Texas.
And God help us if we lose that to California.
It's really bad.
I still want you and Gavin Newsom to just, like, let it go in the UFC octagon.
byron donalds
First of all, Gavin, let's be honest.
Gavin, he ain't got enough bricks in his pocket.
He ain't got enough bricks in his pocket, man.
He like in the end.
It does not work.
Hey, Chad.
Gavin, I'm just telling you, baby.
benny johnson
I'm going to keep pushing this until I get my UFC off the go.
You know what's heading there.
Gavin versus Byron, live in the UFC.
byron donalds
I think he might be a middleweight.
benny johnson
Okay.
byron donalds
I ain't a middleweight.
andy ogles
Yeah, that's right.
benny johnson
It would probably be Kamala governor of California, man, by the time you're in.
byron donalds
Come on.
unidentified
That's...
byron donalds
We don't...
I mean, the state's still going to be bad.
You know, it doesn't matter if, you know, you're at the French Laundry or you tell a sentence that doesn't go anywhere.
I mean, it doesn't matter.
The state's still going to be bad.
benny johnson
Okay, final talking smack to Gavin.
He's bragging that California's got $4 trillion in GDP.
Now, Florida, I just checked, got like $2.1 trillion.
How do we take over California under your governorship?
byron donalds
First of all, I mean, Gavin's got like...
Half the country's population is in California, so their GDP should be higher than it is right now.
That's because their regulatory environment is terrible.
You don't look at it that way.
I think you look at it per capita.
Per capita?
Man, Florida's number one.
We're not even looking at California right now.
They're not even in the rear view.
That man, Andy Ogles, over there sitting from Tennessee.
Tennessee and Texas is in the rear view.
California, man, we can't even see them.
We can't see them.
They can't see us.
And the reason why they can't see us is because they got lapped a while ago.
So you can talk about having the largest GDP, but you got the most people in the country.
I mean, duh.
That's just, you know, okay, yeah.
Hey, guess what?
You know, we bought the most food.
Well, you got like 30 kids.
Of course you bought the most food.
That doesn't mean anything.
Per capita, baby, Florida is killing it.
We are the number one state in the country.
Sorry, Gavin.
By the way, you did a terrible job, so it's over.
unidentified
It don't matter.
benny johnson
Final question.
What is governor of Florida?
That would be President Trump, last two years of President Trump's second term, right?
unidentified
Yes.
benny johnson
If you're sworn in as governor of Florida, how does that relationship work?
Now, he came way out of the gate to endorse you.
How does that relationship work then as a governor working with President Trump?
byron donalds
I think for the state, it's really making sure that some of the key...
Whether it's trade, economic policy, and I will add this in, structural reforms to federal spending.
I think from the mantle of Florida, we can help the president and his team basically be the blueprint for how we need to adjust federal spending into the future.
There are a lot of conversations around this reconciliation bill that did not get into this reconciliation bill, but they need to occur.
And I think that President Trump can really leave the White House being the most transformative president this country ever seen if we really start to tackle long-term spending problems in the country.
And so I think that that relationship, you know, potentially being a governor, talking about how you can rework some of these programs and how Florida can still deliver and help people being the third largest state in the country.
That gives you a model to then say, America, here's what we're going to do.
And the reason why we know we can deliver is because Florida's doing it.
unidentified
Boom.
byron donalds
Boom.
benny johnson
Best state in the damn country, man.
unidentified
Gavin.
byron donalds
Can't see me, baby.
Can't see me.
benny johnson
Good, we're getting better at that.
We're inserting rap horns and cheers.
Everybody, shout out to Byron Donalds.
Chat, melt it down for Byron.
You all know where to find Byron Donalds.
Get in there.
Follow.
Let's see.
Look at 1.1.
In the Millie Club.
byron donalds
We went to 1.1?
benny johnson
1.1.
byron donalds
I missed that.
benny johnson
Look at him go.
byron donalds
I missed that.
benny johnson
Byron cooking, man.
We're going to save this great land.
byron donalds
Timmy B. Love you, baby.
Timmy B is the best.
Love you.
benny johnson
Getting all these shout-outs to Timmy B. All right.
Thank you, Byron.
We've got the great Andy Ogles from the state of Tennessee in the house.
Andy, what's up, man?
How you doing?
What's going on, bro?
How you doing?
unidentified
No marathon last night.
andy ogles
Great.
benny johnson
How are you?
andy ogles
How's the family?
benny johnson
You were a real skull cracker on this.
You were out front.
andy ogles
You were out front.
You've got to have a few folks that are willing to step forward and take the arrows to force the conversations.
I typically am one of those that draws that short straw.
And I'm willing to do it.
And part of that is, you know, I have a good relationship with the president and all the conversations are constructive.
But, you know, like Byron was saying, we have a lot of wins in this bill, but a lot of those wins were because people stood firm and said, hey, we can make it better.
unidentified
Like, push the tolerance level.
andy ogles
Now, it also means that we were voting at like 1.30 in the morning, 5 o 'clock in the morning, and we've all had way too much caffeine and no sleep.
unidentified
But hey.
benny johnson
You've been up for 48 hours?
andy ogles
I did get a nap.
And lots of eye drops.
benny johnson
Like a Joe Biden style nap.
andy ogles
No, there were no drugs involved.
Put me in a coma.
benny johnson
You just let the auto pen cook for a while?
andy ogles
Well, I mean, that's all conversation.
I mean, you could do a whole just show on the consequences of...
Was he actually president?
What executive orders were illegal, if not treasonous?
Are his pardons legal?
It's one thing for me to give my staff permission to sign my signature.
But if I'm unaware that they're using it, and it's not just a kind of a technical formality, those pardons may be invalid.
And so there's a whole lot there to take.
To unpack and could be, quite frankly, criminal.
benny johnson
Man, I lived in D.C. for so long, and this pardon operation is big.
I know people have spent millions of dollars from jail.
Very corrupt people have spent millions of dollars in lobbying for pardons, trying to get themselves out of jail.
It's like the easiest get-out.
You're a real scumbag.
It's the easiest get-out-of-jail-free trick if you've got a rich buddy.
What do you think is the chances that people were getting paid for pardons here?
Because 8,000 pardons is insane, Congressman.
andy ogles
Well, I mean, and, you know, there's a whistleblower came forward saying that the pardons were being, you know, signed when he would typically be asleep.
So you know it wasn't him.
And although I don't have proof in front of me, I'm fairly certain that they were selling pardons out of the White House.
And that would be staff, the machine, the library, whatever mechanism they were using.
But I would be utterly shocked.
If that wasn't taking place.
unidentified
Congressman, could you scoot over just a little bit so that everyone can see?
benny johnson
Yeah, we want to see the congressman's face right there.
We don't want it to be blocked with them.
There you go.
unidentified
Perfect.
benny johnson
Sorry.
Well, I'm like, geez, this is going to be on Fox News.
We've got to get these clips up for Fox.
What's happening next?
So a lot of people are like, this is fine.
Right?
unidentified
This is good.
benny johnson
It's fine.
And I know you're one of them.
But we can get executive orders.
We can get doge cuts.
We can get more out of this.
Yes?
andy ogles
So that was the conversation that we had with the White House.
benny johnson
It's like moves the wheels forward, right?
Get the machine working.
andy ogles
That was the request of the president.
It's like, give me this first step and trust me.
Like, we're with you.
I'm with you, the president.
And so, yes, we made the tax cuts permanent, which is huge.
Secure the border, making that permanent.
You're now going to see reverse deportation and migration.
Of course, deportation is.
Yeah, and there's a lot going on in Nashville with ICE and deportations as well, the blue cities.
And then, you know, probably not as significant to the entire country, but for those of us that have guns, love the Second Amendment, there's the suppressor.
The language for owning a suppressor was changed.
It's easier to get.
You don't have to pay the $200 fee.
The government doesn't take your gun for a year and all the other nonsense that was going on with that.
So there's some victories in there.
But I think with Medicaid and what Byron was saying is, I think especially with him as governor, governors can play a huge role in that dynamic and that relationship.
But wait a second.
We don't need your help.
Let's set up a mechanism where a state like Florida, like Tennessee, can be rewarded for spending the money wisely so that if we're being block granted, whether it's Medicaid or education or road dollars, and we're using it more judiciously and we have money left over at the end, then we can reinvest that into that same health care or roads or whatever.
And again, we're getting better bang for the buck.
Now, California will piss away, but that's on them, not us.
benny johnson
So Tennessee...
You get an ICE deportation.
You get a deportation to Tennessee.
There's a little bit of news about that.
Can you give us an update on that?
Nashville, Blue City, your district, right?
So it's like a little bit of friction, right?
You got the communist left-wing mayor there in Nashville.
So where's the friction?
Where's it going?
Where's it headed?
andy ogles
So you have some ICE deportation.
So Freddie O 'Connell came out and basically...
Told his police to report any communications with federal law enforcement.
They have a community oversight board of the police department.
He was encouraging citizens to file complaints against law enforcement if they assisted in deportations.
And then you have a state rep who literally did an Instagram or video or whatever for 15 minutes where she was following and blocking ICE vehicles.
And so we turn that over to the DOJ.
I questioned Secretary Noem and the Homeland Security Committee.
We talked about this very instance.
And then I called for an investigation of the city of Nashville, a joint investigation from the Homeland Security and Judiciary Committees.
So we have a letter to that effect coming out shortly.
And so, yeah, I mean, and so it'll be we're going to put, you know, the mayor of Nashville, but all.
Blue City mayors that if you screw around with federal law enforcement, we're going to come into your community and we're going to hold an investigation.
benny johnson
I think it's something that maybe all of us could agree upon.
Could we deport the Hawk to a girl?
unidentified
I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole.
benny johnson
I mean, that happened on the streets of Nashville, so it would technically be your jurisdiction, right?
andy ogles
You know, actually, Nashville's divided, so I'm going to give that one to Mark.
unidentified
Okay.
andy ogles
Congressman Green.
benny johnson
They're trying to block the deportation of the Hawk Tua girl.
We don't know.
andy ogles
Look, if you're El Salvadorian, you know, Trinidad, I got problems with you.
Hawk Tua girl, that is not my lane.
benny johnson
All right.
Hawk Tua girl.
You know, there's free margaritas in El Salvador.
andy ogles
Yeah.
And I was just there.
benny johnson
That's right.
That's right.
You were in the prisons.
andy ogles
So we went down, you know.
benny johnson
With APL, right?
andy ogles
That's right.
And so I wanted to see it for myself.
Like, you know, the mayor of Nashville is losing his freaking communist mind.
So I wanted to go down there and see it, see the facility, see how they were being treated.
I went and met with the president of El Salvador.
It was an amazing trip.
And the backdrop, which you have to understand.
benny johnson
He's like real.
unidentified
He's awesome.
andy ogles
He's real.
benny johnson
He's real.
andy ogles
Gangster.
Gangster in the...
benny johnson
Like the classic American cowboy clean it up.
unidentified
El Salvador's have 40 years of violence.
andy ogles
Civil war, dictators, gang violence, murders.
You can't even go out on the street.
They claim they haven't had a murder in three years.
Kids are able to go to school.
benny johnson
Murder in the whole country?
andy ogles
That's right.
If you're a member of a gang in El Salvador, just a member.
It's a minimum 20-year prison sentence.
If you have any rank in the gang, it adds another 10 years, and then whatever crime you committed.
So if you're a member of a gang and you committed a crime, you're going away for petty theft, 30 years.
Zero tolerance policy.
But that's what it takes to clean up a country that's been wrought with violence for 40 years.
And he wants to transform his country into a destination for investment and tourism.
And quite frankly, it's a model for the rest of Central and South America that's overrun with gangs.
benny johnson
Did you have any margaritas there?
You don't have to break huge news on the stream, but did they serve you any salty margarita?
Did you get the cherry?
andy ogles
I did not get a margarita.
I did have the local beer.
benny johnson
Okay.
andy ogles
I mean, you know, you're there.
Try the beer.
benny johnson
I'd love to go.
I've never been.
You know, I've never even been to South America.
andy ogles
Well, I think we plan on going again.
benny johnson
Cool.
andy ogles
And we'll make sure you're in the stream.
benny johnson
We'll do a stream with Naive Du Kelly.
andy ogles
And I'll say it was a little intimidating.
So when you go into this, it's almost like a warehouse.
And you've got to understand.
benny johnson
The prison.
andy ogles
The prison.
And there's different warehouses.
And they're grouped by their Venezuelans.
These are El Salvadorians.
But when they go in, they never come out.
Like, so they're treated, their entire life is now within this facility that is self-contained.
They're medical, they're legal, everything.
But as we're in there and we're touring this facility, there's still, it's an operating prison.
Like, they're bringing, and each cell has, they're massive, 75 to 100 gang members in it.
And there's, I don't know, maybe a dozen personnel with us in this central corridor.
And you're like, man, if they had the wherewithal to just rush us.
It would be a crazy three or four minutes.
Now, they would flood the zone with personnel and weapons.
benny johnson
I've seen those guys, yeah.
andy ogles
But that being said, it was like, oh crap, they're going to open that door.
Oh, they just opened that door.
Oh, wow, there's 100 MS-13.
And we interviewed one of the guys who had been deported from...
The United States had spent time between Virginia and New Hampshire, and the question was asked, why were you here in prison?
He said, homicide.
The next logical question is, how many did you kill?
benny johnson
He said, 50. I saw that on your feed.
That's wild, man.
andy ogles
50 murders.
No feeling, no emotion, no empathy, no sorrow, just 50. Dude.
And that's who we're deporting.
That's who we're sending to El Salvador.
benny johnson
We could lock him up with Dr. Fauci.
Because if you can kill people so easily, if you've got that kind of mentality, just put birds of a feather.
andy ogles
What I'll tell you about the prison, the way it operates, how can they have 75 people in the cell?
If you and I are in the cell and we're talking, one, we have to talk quietly, but if a third person comes over to interact with us, they shut it down.
There's no congregating in the cells.
You sit, you're quiet, you're still.
Anybody is remotely agitated, they come in.
Like it is zero tolerance.
And when you come out of your cell, you have two options.
You can sit on the floor and read the Bible, or another group stands in front and they can do like stretching and jumping jacks and things like that.
That's your only two options.
There's no pissing around in the courtyard.
It's read the Bible or do calisthenics.
benny johnson
I love it as a deterrence, right?
It's a great deterrence from the president.
andy ogles
But these are some of the most violent men in the world.
You can't give them an inch.
benny johnson
That guy got cooked yesterday.
You see Van Hollen got cooked by Rubio yesterday.
Rubio just smoked up.
andy ogles
We were working on this bang bill.
benny johnson
Close us out here.
The chat is happy about this happening.
What can we expect over the next couple of years?
Into the midterms, obviously we want a massive Republican majority.
We want a red wave in the midterms.
First question.
What's your prediction on that?
How do Republicans get there?
How do Republicans not screw ourselves like we do every single time and, like, lose the ball game, right, on the midterms?
How do we get more wins from the president's desk codified in Congress?
andy ogles
So I wrote a letter.
So I think it's all about results, right?
And that was why the president weighed in on this big, beautiful bill, because he wanted it to pass because he needed the runway to get the tax cuts into law, signal to the markets and to businesses and to foreign investment that we've done it.
benny johnson
I mean, it's a huge message that you can just get something done.
andy ogles
But then I wrote a letter to the speaker that, you know, it's time that we start codifying Trump's executive orders.
Because an executive order can be undone.
And so by putting it into law, again, we're signaling to the markets, to businesses, et cetera, that it's permanent.
It's going to be harder to undo.
But to answer your question specifically, it's going to come down to the economy.
The border is going to be secure.
This is the biggest funding bill, lots of deportations.
This is going to get back to the economy.
And so, again, by codifying the executive orders.
By making sure that we have a pro-growth, pro-business, we're barreling towards $40 trillion in debt.
So I'm on financial services, which is banking.
It's the nerd committee.
So it's banking and the economy.
And I'm on homeland.
But that being said, we can't cut our way out of this.
You cut everywhere you can.
But we have so much debt.
And such ballooning debt that we have to grow this economy at a rate that is unprecedented.
You're going to have to have a president and a leadership from President Trump.
Then also, when Byron becomes governor, again, how do the states work together?
Because Florida is an economic engine of the country.
Tennessee and Texas are economic engines for the country.
So there's going to be a partnership as we go forward.
To the midterms, if we deliver on the economy and the border, we win, we pick up seats.
It'll always be tight because of all the jurymandering.
That being said, I think we can pick up seats.
We can defy history and have, you know, an extra three, four, five members.
benny johnson
Yeah, great.
And because of criminal aliens being counted in the census.
andy ogles
Well, which is something that we should address, right?
benny johnson
Give Pelosi 20 extra seats.
That's what I'm saying.
andy ogles
Well, so that's why you have that illegal operation of backfilling California and New York and Illinois with illegals is which states are having the largest population flight?
benny johnson
Of course, of course.
unidentified
California.
andy ogles
They're coming to Tennessee.
They're going to Florida.
benny johnson
Tennessee gained a couple seats, right?
andy ogles
No, no.
The next census, we should gain one, right?
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Florida's got four.
Texas got five.
andy ogles
North Carolina should pick up a seat.
Ohio.
But if you're not counting the illegals, California is going to lose.
benny johnson
10, 20. Exactly.
andy ogles
New York loses seats.
And suddenly, Tennessee, Ohio, Florida, Texas, we all gain several seats.
That forever changes the House of Representatives.
unidentified
Yeah.
andy ogles
And that is permanent.
Why did Joe Biden?
He was unaware.
Why did the Biden administration flood this country with 10, 12, 15 million people?
It was all about the House of Representatives.
It was all about the census and making sure that they didn't lose their shot at control.
It was about power.
benny johnson
Well, it's glad to see it reversed, I guess.
It's a painful process.
andy ogles
It'll be painful.
benny johnson
But it's good to see it reversed.
andy ogles
Yeah.
I mean, it's not going to be pretty.
And, you know, they're going to start dragging moms and prying babies as we're deporting people.
But you came here illegally.
You knew that there was a risk.
So if you and I go sneak into France, we can go have a good time.
But at some point, if they catch us, they're going to send us home.
UAE, they're going to send us home.
Mexico's immigration laws are tougher than ours.
I mean, like, Mexico, really?
They can't do anything right.
So we can do this.
It might be a little bit messy, but we don't have a choice.
benny johnson
We can speak to France, Congressman.
They'd surrender to us.
We just stand on the board.
From this, we got a car right here.
We just piece it together from Burchett's office.
andy ogles
That's right.
benny johnson
We can conquer France right now.
andy ogles
We'll bring Tim with us.
benny johnson
We got plenty.
We got a baseball bat.
We got a whole wall of Louisville Sluggers here.
andy ogles
He'll start telling jokes.
benny johnson
Louisville Sluggers.
And we just, we can conquer and surrender immediately.
andy ogles
Something tells me I get banned from France.
There's a few countries that, because I've been critical of their governments.
benny johnson
I'd be like, Macron, you get out of here, you take your wife with you, you take her with you, okay, you creepy little man.
You get the hell out of here, right?
That's right.
We'll send them to El Salvador.
It's easy.
Okay.
andy ogles
All right.
benny johnson
Well, thank you.
And I really appreciate your answers on Hawk Tua.
I think that's a really smart stance that you had there.
Not my stance, okay?
They were up to me.
She'd be doing margaritas in El Salvador.
But I lost my life savings on the Hawk Tua coin.
So somebody's personal.
All right.
unidentified
What I would tell the American people is, look, the bill wasn't perfect.
andy ogles
We got a lot of great things done, but there's a lot of work to do.
And you have my, you know, individuals like myself that were always hard charging, Byron Donald's hard charging, the Freedom Caucus hard charging.
We all have great relationships with the president.
Stay tuned.
benny johnson
There's much more to come.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
andy ogles
Bless your family.
benny johnson
Best is yet to come, as they say.
unidentified
All right.
benny johnson
Thank you, Congressman.
unidentified
Absolutely.
benny johnson
Very based.
Very based.
Amazing.
All right.
What up, chat?
Thank you, Congressman.
unidentified
Cool.
benny johnson
Back in the Birchett chair.
Man.
All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, what do we do on this show?
We are always going to be honest with you.
We're always going to let her rip.
We're going to do our very best to bring you...
As of one hour ago, we had no idea that we'd have any congressman or be doing any of this.
So we just like let it rip.
Sometimes it's a little messy, right?
Sometimes it's like, well, I don't have the script in front of me and so on.
But we make it work, ladies and gentlemen.
And we are here to bring you along with the process, right?
So here we go.
Donald Trump nuked a reporter yesterday.
I just got to get to this.
There's a lot going on in the world.
And we actually do have to get on.
The horse to the White House, because we're due at the White House here in like one hour.
Donald Trump nuked a reporter yesterday from inside of the White House.
It was a thing of beauty.
It's a real scumbag named Peter Alexander, who in the face of demonstrable evidence of white genocide in South Africa, decided to be like, but you got a plane from Qatar!
And Donald Trump...
Well, we can talk a lot about deporting Hawk Tua.
Donald Trump straight up deported this reporter in the White House.
Let's freaking go.
donald j trump
What does this have to do with the Qatari jet?
They're giving the United States Air Force a jet, okay?
And it's a great thing.
We're talking about a lot of other things.
It's NBC trying to get off the subject of what you just saw.
You are a real, you know, you're a terrible reporter.
Number one, you don't have what it takes to be a reporter.
You're not smart enough.
But for you to go on to a subject about a jet that was given to the United States Air Force, You ought to go back to your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts and the people that run that place...
They ought to be investigated.
They are so terrible, the way you run that network.
And you're a disgrace.
No more questions from you.
benny johnson
Go ahead.
unidentified
Go ahead.
donald j trump
Talk about that.
His name is Peter Suffling.
He's a terrible reporter.
unidentified
Quiet.
donald j trump
Let's go.
benny johnson
We had our whole Trump block.
Set up.
Let me just talk.
I'll just talk you through it.
So at 9 a.m. this morning, they passed the bill at 8. At 9 a.m. this morning, I call ALX.
I'm like, I'm in D.C. Let's just go to a congressman's office.
ALX is like, sure.
What about Burchett?
He's based.
And I was like, yeah, great.
We text Burchett.
And he's like, come on down.
And then we come on here.
Little did I know we'd have four other members of Congress.
See the stream live.
See you.
See the chat rolling.
And be like, let's let it rip.
Hold on.
Benny's in Burchett's office?
Let's go.
And so we had no idea.
So anyway, we just thank you.
Nothing but heart.
We even have a hearts from Burchett.
Burchett did the hearts out to the chat.
We're just going to let her rip.
Sorry for the unstructured show, right?
We wanted to do a whole block on Trump yesterday, BTFOing the South African president.
We have one more excellent clip where Donald Trump, who is standing there in the face of an entire It's their dream.
Their dream would be to create secretarian and racialized violence in order to have permanent power.
This is what they're doing.
This is the model in South Africa.
It's why what's happening with immigration and open borders is happening.
It's their goal for the country.
They want to destroy this place as they've destroyed South Africa.
Do you know that in South Africa there are more?
But Benny, apartheid was bad.
Listen, I believe that racist laws are bad.
I believe that.
Okay?
Put them up to God, judge them that way.
I believe that's bad.
Do you know that there are more, there are close to double the number of race-related laws on the books in South Africa today than at the height of apartheid?
Now, obviously, the evidence of the attack on what's called the white farmers in South Africa, Elon Musk's family.
It's very prescient in this White House.
It's the first president ever with the stones to just straight up call it out.
It's a total evil.
This is what the left would call social justice.
This is what the left would call ending of systemic racism, which is what you have in South Africa.
Restorative justice.
This is what's happening, but it's happening in reverse.
You see, to have to admit this would have to be to admit that the whites are a victim class.
In South Africa.
And they wouldn't be able to do that.
That's incomprehensible to the left, right?
It destroys their new religion.
Even though it is, of course, ethically and morally right.
So, of course, what I am in favor of is all men are created equal, which is, of course, the laws of this country.
But that's not the laws of South Africa and Donald Trump roasting.
The South African president to his face with news articles.
So we played you the clip of him saying, turn the lights off here in the Oval Office.
We just got to get to this one because we're going to go to the White House right now.
Maybe it's still, the seat is still smoldering, right?
Here's Donald Trump showing the actual evidence to the South African president in real time.
donald j trump
Go.
unidentified
What would you like President Ramaphosa to do about the situation that we've just seen on the screen?
donald j trump
I don't know.
Look, these are articles over the last few days.
unidentified
Death of people.
donald j trump
Death.
Horrible death.
unidentified
Death.
I don't know.
donald j trump
Pick anyone.
White South Africans.
Are fleeing because of the violence and racist laws.
And this is all...
I mean, I'll give these to you.
So when you say, what would I like to do?
I don't know what to do.
Look at this.
White South African couples say...
That they were attacked violently.
unidentified
Well, I could do that.
donald j trump
Look, here's burial sites all over the place.
These are all white farmers that are being buried.
And he asks about a jet that was given.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
You know, you are so bad.
You're such a bad reporter.
unidentified
Mr. President, you must...
Can I have a big piece, President Trump?
donald j trump
Mr. Donald, this is one after another.
His family was wiped out.
I'm just looking.
unidentified
Can we get everything to one person?
Give us your reaction to those videos, Mr. Donald.
Well, I think the videos are so...
donald j trump
No, no, when you look at the videos, I mean, how does it get worse?
And these are people that are officials, and they're saying that kill the white farmer and take their land.
And I have other friends in South Africa, people that left.
One in particular that says you can't go there.
He said they want to take your land, take your land, and they kill you.
It's okay, and they say it's okay to do.
Now, we're going to talk about it, but this is a tremendous...
Look, this is a story recently.
These are all people that recently got killed.
And I don't know how it can get any worse.
And you know, the man that you saw, the men that you saw, the people that you saw on that, well, those are officials.
Those are people that were in office.
They had one march.
They had a dance in your parliament, whatever you may call it, legislature.
unidentified
And it was terrible.
benny johnson
What do you, like, yes.
I'm sorry.
Are you asking if this is what I voted for?
Yes.
The answer is yes.
Can I just cut you to that?
Like, yes.
Donald Trump calling out white genocide.
Donald Trump calling out systemic racism.
Donald Trump using the awesome power of the presidency in order to write and set the tables when evil is going on on Earth, whether that is what's happening with wars in the Middle East, in Israel, in Ukraine.
We are against this.
We are against these style of policies.
There's a way to do it with American might.
There's a way to end wars with American might.
We talked about it on this program.
It's really freaking neat.
It is something that's also just off the top of the dome here.
So fun to be able to just...
I just want to thank the audience.
I just want to thank you.
I know I probably talk too much about this kind of stuff, but it's such an honor to be able to just call up a member of Congress and say, yo, we have this massive audience.
We'd love to bring them into your office.
And they're like, let's let her rip.
And then now I got like four other members of Congress texting me, being like, yo, can I come on?
Can I come on?
unidentified
Come on.
benny johnson
They hear that we're live in the Capitol.
Would you like us to do more of this?
Do you want us to do more of this?
Where we're like, just bring the show into the Senate, into the members of Congress's office?
Because we're committed to it.
We're devoted to it.
We're committed to you.
And we're very thankful for you.
There was this moment where I, okay, I'll admit something very personal.
I freaking love Christmas.
I love Christmas a lot.
I'm not like a Christmasophile, right?
I don't celebrate Christmas all year long or anything like that.
I keep my tree up.
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We're actually working on an official ornament right now for next Christmas.
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unidentified
Which is weird.
benny johnson
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Ladies and gentlemen.
All right.
We have one final special guest.
Who is here to rock with us, and it is the great Nick Sotor, who is here and on Capitol Hill and causing lots of problems.
nick sortor
Yes, as usual.
I mean, that's the one thing that's been interesting.
benny johnson
He's got a Trump 2028 hat on.
nick sortor
Yeah, it just came in the mail.
I kind of forgot it.
I saw it on the website.
I think you posted it or something.
They were selling the Trump 2028 hats.
Now, when I went on, I bought three.
So I got them there on the shelf in my back.
I got my girlfriend one.
She wears it around too.
Except for, you know, people around here, if you wear this around here, though, they're vicious.
People are mean, but it's gotten a lot better.
There are a lot more MAGA hats around D.C. now, and I love it.
It makes me happy.
benny johnson
The coolest thing ever was with MAGA, I don't know if you were at this, you go to a lot of MAGA rallies.
Were you at the one in Madison Square Garden?
nick sortor
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Watching all of Manhattan Island be taken over by MAGA hat.
It was one of the coolest.
It was the most untold.
There's a lot of stories.
Oh, they made a joke about Puerto Rico and Donald Trump and everything like that.
Hulk Hogan.
The real story was that all of Manhattan Island was MAGA.
nick sortor
Oh, my God.
I mean, it created this...
I mean, you thought the pandemic in New York was bad.
You'd see, like, these people that were having to triage themselves because of the TDS and seeing all the red hats everywhere.
It was a sea of people.
You're talking Madison Square Garden, the whole of what?
What, 40,000 people?
Pretty much all of them wearing some sort of Trump or MAGA hat?
Oh, it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
benny johnson
Mobile tracking, there was 30,000 inside of Madison Square Garden, 90,000 outside, and so imagine all of New York, MAGA hats.
People were losing it in the streets.
nick sortor
Well, they actually had a parade, too, at that point, down, you know, because Long Island has a huge, especially Nassau County, has a massive Trump population, and they all came into Manhattan for that day.
They're clogging up all the streets with big MAGA flags on the back of their cars.
I mean, that's when I knew at that point, I said, we got this.
We got it in the bag, baby.
benny johnson
So we got Hakeem Jeffries' team.
We got Hakeem Jeffries.
You were trolling Hakeem Jeffries yesterday.
Let's do this as a full play.
Show some of your work and then you can unpack it for us.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
benny johnson
The work that you're doing up here on Capitol Hill.
Let's go Hakeem Jeffries.
unidentified
Hey, Hakeem, why are you lying about the cuts to Medicaid, saying that there are cuts to Medicaid when there clearly aren't?
Do you want illegals to have taxpayer-funded healthcare?
Is that what you want?
You want illegals?
You want U.S. taxpayers to fund healthcare for illegals?
benny johnson
Dude, this is such powerful work, man.
Just having a single adversarial question asked of these people is so important because they get nothing but bootlicking.
I don't want to name names, but from even what would be considered right, the press corps of the right, it's nothing but like, how are you doing today?
How do you feel?
That's what you get.
nick sortor
What color is your nail polish today, AOC?
That's typically what they end up getting.
benny johnson
From right-wing journalists, they still ask questions like that.
Right.
nick sortor
And the way that the media is controlled here, it's like a cartel.
It's very difficult to get a hard media pass here.
And they do that intentionally because they don't want you asking these hard questions.
So, you know, I just find them when they're outside or when they don't expect it.
You know, because Hakeem, this whole time talking about the big, beautiful bill, he was using...
Talking points, right?
These lies, like Medicaid, we're going to call millions and millions of Americans are going to lose their health insurance.
I mean, it was just a total lie.
Total lie.
And so I was like, okay, you know what?
If you're not going to answer my emails, I'm just going to go and find you.
And so I did.
And he was not ready for that at all.
He was also there with Pelosi.
But Pelosi, after the team was tipped off that I was there, they set up barricades to keep her in, and they had a perimeter of people surrounding Nancy as she hobbled back to the car so that I couldn't get anywhere close.
They had the Capitol Police bring their bikes out and build a wall just so I couldn't ask Nancy Pelosi any questions as she hobbled in the vehicle.
benny johnson
We had a series called Walls Across America, and Nancy Pelosi has some of the best walls ever.
She's got multiple mansions.
She has great walls.
The envy of any Donald Trump property would be Nancy's wall.
nick sortor
And so we're still looking at it.
For years and years and years, there's been no pushback.
As we've talked about multiple times, there's been no pushback on the Hill.
And luckily, the White House has pushed through this barrier.
Of this Washington legacy media cartel.
And we're trying to do the same thing here at the Capitol.
You know, and so there's a lot more of that came from.
I just moved right down the street so I can just walk here now.
You never know when I'm going to show up.
benny johnson
But you have, what's interesting is like the American public wants these questions asked.
You're asking what I would assume is at least the majority.
Or tens of millions of people.
You have to assume there's 100 million Trump supporters, right?
77 million Trump voters.
They want your questions asked.
unidentified
That's a ton of people.
benny johnson
The majority wants your questions asked, but they never get asked.
Why?
nick sortor
Well, because of the fact, you know, it doesn't look, you don't want to seem like you're too hostile with these people because then they won't give you special treatments.
They won't invite you to the parties anymore.
You can't do, you know, go to the cool fundraising events.
And I don't really care.
Do I look like a fundraiser kind of guy?
I mean, come on.
And, you know.
unidentified
Nice polo.
nick sortor
It's been like that forever, and I'm really struggling not to name names, but I want to at some point.
But you're talking about asking them questions that the majority, as in Trump people, want asked.
I also asked that question to him yesterday for the millions of people that are now under the impression that Donald Trump is going to rip their health care away.
That is terrible to do to people, to lie to their faces and pretend like their entire, you know, like, you know, the elderly people thinking, Grandma and Grandpa think that they're going to lose everything over this bill.
How you can sit there and lie to these people's faces like that is unbelievable.
I mean, these people are evil.
But, you know, it was important to me to get him on the spot and show everybody that he's a fool.
He doesn't actually believe this stuff because he wasn't able to actually come back with the talking.
He couldn't hit back.
He could just regurgitate the same talking point with no substance, and he exposed himself on that video yesterday.
benny johnson
Amazing.
What's your dream get?
What would be your dream?
unidentified
Would it be like a sit-down interview with Ilhan Omar?
nick sortor
Oh, God.
benny johnson
Or maybe at the wedding chapel, you can go through her marriage certificates.
nick sortor
You know, see, the problem is these people, it's really hard to do a sit-down interview with them because they don't have anything to say anyway.
I mean, you saw Ilhan Omar earlier walking.
I don't know if you saw that video yet.
benny johnson
Yeah, where she wouldn't even acknowledge that there was a shooting in D.C. It was an Israeli embassy worker, and he was shot by some left-wing lunatic.
nick sortor
Some free Palestine guy.
benny johnson
Some evil Marxist screaming, free Palestine, trying to kill him.
I don't know the status.
They were in hospital last time I heard the status.
nick sortor
The people were shot?
benny johnson
Yes.
nick sortor
They were both dead.
Both Israeli diplomats.
Which is, it creates a very, very scary environment for what could possibly come of that.
benny johnson
We've been talking about this on the program.
Okay, so we've been talking about this because James Coneby is sitting there calling for assassinations.
And that the left has resorted to their factory setting, which is kill everyone and take power, which is what they always do.
nick sortor
You know, now you've got, I'm not going to say exact, so there was, I probably watched what I say here, but there are some...
People that I worry about.
I see how they get around some patriots that most of us here would love.
I see them get around and I look at the security vulnerabilities with them and I'm like, it could be them next.
These are big targets and it scares the hell out of me.
unidentified
Christine Ohm, bro.
benny johnson
Christine Ohm just got a purse snatched.
If you're that, and she had a bunch of money in the purse and her badges.
nick sortor
I want to know if he knew that it was Christine Ohm's purse.
benny johnson
The irony of that aside, if you're getting that close, women don't leave their purse.
He was getting within the bubble for Christy Ngo, no doubt.
If you're snatching her purse, then you're getting very close to Christy Ngo.
Maybe she leaves her purse when she goes and talks to somebody, but it's not far away.
If you're that close, you're able to steal from her, man, that's a huge security failure.
nick sortor
I actually was able to.
I go to a lot of restaurants around here specifically just to see who goes there.
I scope them out and see.
because sometimes I use that to get people.
But I was up at one of the restaurants near the White House and Kristi Noem was sitting there at the table.
This was the weekend before she got her purse stolen.
I was able to walk right up to her and just shake her hand.
We sat there and chatted for like two minutes.
And so I worried for some of these officials.
People don't realize that they are genuinely putting their lives on the line.
That's right.
That's a great point.
Balls, I guess.
benny johnson
Yes, you're right.
They are.
They're genuinely putting their lives on the line to come into...
This is beyond enemy territory.
This is a city that is controlled by Marxism.
You can feel it the moment you land.
It's like the city is controlled...
nick sortor
Behind enemy lines.
benny johnson
Yes, by Marxists.
Yeah.
So, okay.
You know, it's crazy when you talk about Christy Nome because she's in charge of the Secret Service.
She has the highest level of Secret Service protection.
nick sortor
Right.
benny johnson
And they're...
I mean, man, you know, we've traveled with her.
And I'm not trying to knock anyone.
I feel like they do need to bulk up a little bit.
A little bit of that protection.
nick sortor
I don't have a lot of faith in the Secret Service.
And I don't know if I've ever told you this.
I've never actually shown the video.
But I was able to, at one point, when I was in Hawaii with Joe Biden, I was able to, like, accidentally, I breached the perimeter and I ended up, like, in the bathroom with Joe Biden.
unidentified
What?
nick sortor
And I was like, at that point, I threw my hands up and I surrendered.
I was like, I am not supposed to be here.
And so I walked out with the Secret Service.
But we never, at the time, and I feel better talking about it now, but at the time, it was like, okay, we're not going to do anything to you.
Just, let's not talk about it right now.
Let's agree to not talk about it right now.
And so I think I need to probably publish that.
I have the whole thing on video.
But, dude, those security, it's like there's too much security theater with even the Secret Service.
I'm really hoping Sean Curran, seems like a good dude.
I don't know if you've met him or not, but I'm hoping he can change that.
benny johnson
That bro was willing to lay down his life for Trump.
nick sortor
Absolutely.
benny johnson
I've been doing that for decades, so I'm like, I have hopes, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
That's crazy.
That's like my nightmare.
My nightmare would be being trapped in a bathroom with Joe Biden.
nick sortor
A little nightmare.
The smell in there.
I can't get that out of my head.
benny johnson
I'm creeped out.
unidentified
I keep thinking about it.
benny johnson
It's terrible.
All right.
But who's...
Okay, so final question.
Who would be your favorite get up here on income?
The elevator doors close.
nick sortor
Oh, and I was stuck in an elevator with somebody.
benny johnson
Yeah, what Democrat member would it be?
nick sortor
Oh, my God.
I mean, I've already done AOC.
Let me take that back.
unidentified
I have not...
nick sortor
I've talked to AOC.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
nick sortor
Don't clip that, guys.
Phrasing.
And, you know, but she's...
She's an absolute wacko.
And, you know, she actually falsely accused me of assault and stuff like that.
Let's see.
If I could get into an elevator with somebody, probably would be on the Senate side.
I like when people will actually talk.
There are a lot of these Democrats that just don't have anything to say.
benny johnson
Jeffrey talked to you.
Yeah, Jeffrey did.
He was like, hey, you know.
Which is good, you know.
nick sortor
I want to talk to Cory Booker.
Because that dude, I don't know if he's, like, you know, high on coke or whatever he does.
I don't know.
He was sniffing a lot during that whole 16-hour bender that he did.
I would love to be trapped.
Because that dude will talk.
He'll just go and go and go and go.
unidentified
I wonder if he could crash that in your Trump ad.
nick sortor
You know, I...
benny johnson
What, the...
nick sortor
Oh, you're talking about...
benny johnson
Oh, it's a live stream.
nick sortor
Oh, dude, I'd love to.
benny johnson
They probably had, like, security around him.
unidentified
But that live stream, I wonder if he could crash it on the steps.
nick sortor
Oh, so I actually, I walked over there.
Is that what we were talking about?
On the steps of the Capitol.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
nick sortor
Him and Hakeem were there.
Yeah, they actually, that was a controlled perimeter.
You couldn't just walk up to it.
They astroturf all these things.
These people didn't just, like, show up organically.
They blocked off the entire area and let specific groups in that they bust in.
I tried to get in.
I couldn't get in.
If I had a hard Capitol pass, I could, though.
unidentified
So, maybe one of these days.
benny johnson
Maybe next sign.
nick sortor
I bought a megaphone, too.
So just for that situation.
Right after that, I went back and bought a megaphone.
benny johnson
A sign of things to come.
All right.
I am getting the hook from Nurse Kate.
We are heading, again, as we've talked about, we are heading to the White House for a Maha event.
And so we are ready.
We are freaking ready to cook here.
Thank you, Nick, for your incredible work.
Can we pop up Nick's social?
Make sure that everybody is locked and loaded and ready to support Nick.
There we go.
Look at that.
So close to a million.
nick sortor
You're getting there.
unidentified
So close.
Thanks, bro.
nick sortor
Appreciate it, Benny.
benny johnson
Let's do our verse of the day here, all right?
Verse of the day!
Pop it up on screen, Clyde.
I don't have the script in front of me.
Here we go.
From Joshua 1.9.
Good Joshua verse.
Have I not commanded you?
Be strong and courageous.
Do not be frightened.
Do not be dismayed.
For the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.
It does absolutely feel like that, doesn't it?
It does feel like God has saved this country from absolute peril, especially that we were teetering on the brink.
It really feels like it.
It feels like we were on the brink of something horrible and going beyond the pale, as they say, right?
Like lost forever.
And that God stepped in and saved us.
It does feel like that.
It feels like that to me.
I don't know about you, but I have a feeling if you're in this audience that you feel like that as well.
So we're just going to celebrate that, and we're going to say, well, what does the verse say?
Be strong and courageous.
Let's do those things.
Don't be frightened.
Be worried about these things.
Go celebrate when something good happens and when something bad happens.
Double down and keep fighting.
And that's what we've done.
Fight, fight, fight, as they say, right?
Keep fighting.
Don't be frightened.
Be strong and courageous.
We've seen a lot of that.
A lot of that this year.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's your boy Benny.
From up here inside of Tim Burchett's office, we have a special Tim Burchett office tour for you.
I'll leave you with a...
If you've watched for this long, I can't believe we've done almost two and a half hours just from Tim Burchett's desk, but here we go.
We're just going to let her rip.
We're going to leave you with a Tim Burchett office tour.
That was filmed by Nick.
Tim gave us a whole tour of his office.
Chat, let me know.
Klein, we got that?
Let me know that we got that ready to go.
Okay, good.
It's your boy, Benny.
We'll see you all at the White House.
We'll be cooking there, too.
So stay tuned, right?
I'm never sure what all we can do, but we're going to let her rip.
And God bless all of you.
Got a bunch of meetings tomorrow that we're going to do.
And so we're going to...
We're going to most likely have a show kick off next Tuesday because we have Memorial Day.
We're going to have Memorial Day for the families.
And set that aside.
But then we'll be back next Tuesday, or if a ton of news breaks tomorrow, then we're just going to cancel a bunch of stuff and go live.
We're here for you.
We've got some fun stuff.
We've got some other fun meetings cooking up here, okay?
All right?
It's so fun to take you with us.
Please enjoy this exclusive tour of Tim Burch's office that we filmed just for this show.
Hearts out to the chat.
Love you all.
It's your boy, Benny.
Let's march on to victory.
See ya.
What's up, guys?
We're here in the Capitol with the legendary Tim Burchett.
He's gonna show us an office tour.
tim burchett
Right on.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim burchett
11:22 Long March.
My little girl, Tony, said, "Look, Matt, if you ever get the numbers, just take the first two and double them, and you get the last two." She's a freaking genius.
unidentified
It's easy, easy.
benny johnson
It's better math than most people in Congress.
unidentified
Here we go.
tim burchett
This young lady, she answers the phone for us.
She's wonderful.
The galley back here, she does.
unidentified
All the crazy stuff, and I said, "Kali!" Kelsey's right here.
tim burchett
Kelsey's my chief.
She's out.
She's back there doing something.
A little map of the great state of Tennessee.
This wall was given to me.
It's on loan, actually, from the Museum of Appalachia.
Lamar Alexander had it in his office, and when he left the Senate, he wanted me to have it.
It's cool stuff.
unidentified
My favorite, of course, is the fish gig.
tim burchett
You know, it's just stuff people made up in Appalachia, out of just what they had.
And it's really cool stuff.
And they got the banjo with the stuff.
unidentified
That guy's almost old enough to run for president as a Democrat.
tim burchett
Yeah, he was probably middle, he was probably 42 back then though.
That's all over the district right there, the dams and Blunt County Courthouse.
unidentified
I got an office up there and then big Neyland Stadium.
tim burchett
Y 'all need to come down there sometime and I'll...
We'll go to the gang.
It's a lot of fun.
That's where I met my wife, actually.
106,000 of my best friends.
This is where the magic happens.
unidentified
This is my back collection, as I sit on the pine.
tim burchett
I ride the fence.
I mean, not the fence.
I ride the bench.
I don't do too much.
A lot of these guys, they spend a lot of money on their dadgum office.
I don't care.
I want people to come in here and feel at home.
I sleep in my office.
And here's my stuff.
My purple quilt.
My mama made that for me before she died.
Purple's my favorite color.
Everybody's got a Daddy Gum Challenge coin.
I'm pretty sure that the custodians at Capitol Hill have a Daddy Gum Challenge coin.
Everybody tries to get me to do one, but I don't.
It's a veteran thing.
I'm not a veteran.
Daddy, of course, fuck.
In the Pacific, Japanese.
There's a picture of me in the speaker on the cover of the Wall Street Journal, which was pretty cool.
unidentified
You sleep here?
benny johnson
Is this your bed?
tim burchett
Yeah, that's my bed.
I sleep on that couch.
My best friend Chris Haggerty gave me a phone.
There's a phone behind there, like a memory phone.
I spread it out.
We've got to get a longer one because I'm about 6 '1", and that's about 6 feet, so I kind of hook up.
But honestly, I sleep better here than I do at home.
It's like when I lived in a fraternity house.
I wanted somebody to come break a bottle outside my door every night so that I'd feel at home, you know, when I was home.
But anyway, it's just, I guess 'cause the dogs don't have to go out and pee when I'm up here.
benny johnson
- This is a massive scandal.
Look at this auto pen.
tim burchett
- Auto pen, yes.
benny johnson
- Massive scandal.
tim burchett
- Many, many a pardon has been done on those.
unidentified
Anyway.
tim burchett
This is the action right here.
unidentified
This is everybody.
This is my crew.
tim burchett
They're all working.
benny johnson
These other staffers of yours?
tim burchett
Yeah, these are my ladies.
benny johnson
These are your ex-wives?
tim burchett
Yeah, me and Jeff Bezos.
You know, I met him at the freaking inauguration.
unidentified
Did you?
tim burchett
Yeah, I walked up to him and he thought I was just some redneck, which I am.
And I pulled my car back and he saw my, "Oh, hey Congressman." And I said, and I was talking to him about capitalism and stuff.
We had a great conversation.
And then I said, oh ma 'am, I said all my buddies, a bunch of my buddies had texted me and said, man, you gotta check out Jeff Bezos' girlfriend, man, you know?
And I was like, dude, whatever.
And so, you know, she's wearing some exotic clothing or something.
I don't know.
benny johnson
Yeah, she caused some problems.
She caused some drama.
tim burchett
And then I said to her, I said, ma 'am.
All my buddies back in Knoxville were telling me just how attractive you are.
unidentified
And man, she just pushed Bezos out of the way, and she'd come up and shook my hand.
tim burchett
And then I invited Bezos to Knoxville, to the Mexon.
It's a Mexican restaurant that's attached to the Exon.
That's what we call it.
It's really Don Jose's.
Oddly enough, the manager's name is Jose, but it's not named after him.
Anyway, and I told Bezos, I said, but if you come to Knoxville, I said, you better bring your checkbook.
He said, what's that, Tim?
I said, Because the dad got margaritas, they went up to $7 a piece on them.
And he thought that was the greatest thing in the world.
And he said, man, we're going to hang out or something.
He got my card.
So, anyway, I got that going.
benny johnson
You and Dr. Evil.
tim burchett
Yeah.
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Look at this.
benny johnson
Look at this.
Absolute scandal.
All right, everyone.
That's the full tour.
We're going live.
Tim Burchett, what a legend.
Congressional Cribs.
That's what we're gonna call this series.
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