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unidentified
Out of Washington.
President Trump teasing a big news conference later this morning where he will unveil a major trade deal with the United Kingdom.
Alexandra Hoff is live from the White House with more.
Good morning, Alexandra.
Well, good morning to you.
The president sees this as the first of many deals to come.
The exact scope of this agreement is still not clear right now.
The president is expected to expand on that at a 10 a.m. news conference this morning.
He wrote earlier on Truth Social this.
This agreement with the United Kingdom is a full and comprehensive one that will cement the relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom for many years to come.
Because of our long history and allegiance together, it is a great honor to have the United Kingdom as our first announcement.
Many other deals which are in serious stages of negotiation to follow.
The agreement is the first since the president imposed and then later paused stiff tariffs put in place on countries at the beginning of April.
The U.K. is subject to 25 percent levies on steel, aluminum and cars and does fall under that 10 percent global tariff.
Right now, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and U.S. Trade Rep.
Jameson Greer are preparing to arrive in Switzerland where tense trade talks with China are expected to happen there.
Tariffs on China remain at 145 percent, a surcharge that the president says he is standing by.
Are you open to pulling back your tariffs in order to get China to the negotiating table?
donald j trump
No.
joe scarborough
What does China need to do on fentanyl, specifically?
What do you want to see that do?
donald j trump
Well, they have to stop fentanyl from coming in.
That'll be a very big part.
And I had that understanding with President Xi before I left last time, and we had a deal, and he would have honored the deal.
But when Biden came in, of course, nothing ever happened.
unidentified
Now, yesterday, Secretary Besson said that certain exemptions were being considered for products like baby products, for example, car seats coming in from other countries.
When the president was asked about that, he said that he would look into it, that he would prefer, though, to keep things simple when it comes to trade.
donald j trump
All right, open your boxes.
unidentified
You get a tariff, and you get a tariff, and you get a tariff.
donald j trump
Everyone gets a tariff.
benny johnson
You look, look under your seat.
Look, he should do this at the UN.
Donald Trump, they do these speeches at the UN.
Can I get that photo of Trump speaking inside of that, like, goofy world galactic Senate room, right?
They should make him wear Palpatine robes when they do this.
Donald Trump stands there, and the nations of the world have to sit and listen to President Trump, and he should do that.
We should totally do it.
They reach under their seat.
They pull out an envelope.
Klein, you want to search Donald Trump, United Nations.
Thank you.
Pull out an envelope.
Producers, get me a photo of that.
And then they pull it out, and every single nation gets a special tariff envelope.
Why not?
There it is.
Perfect.
Yes!
This is what they should do.
This entire presidency is all about, like, what is the most entertaining outcome?
What is the most entertaining thing that can happen?
And we, ladies and gentlemen, will be entertained, I think, by a very early surprise and shock press conference that Donald Trump is calling about tariffs.
This is going to be very interesting.
President Trump, in one single fell swoop, has brought 170 different nations to the table.
This is called the art of the deal.
This is where Trump...
Far be it for me to second-guess the administration, but it would have been hilarious, wouldn't it?
Let me know in the chat.
Let me know in the chat, ladies and gentlemen, and we appreciate you being with us an hour early today for our show, which is a slam-bang, whiz-bang, baller show, stacked brick-to-brick, wall-to-wall.
Holy smokes.
We got Senator Josh Hawley on the show.
We got Jim Jordan on the show.
We got Mike Davis on the show.
We got Julie Kelly on the show.
Talk about rocking and rolling here.
And we're going to have President Trump live on the show here very soon.
Hopefully he will do the Oprah reach under your seat, pull out your tariff card.
Today is Thursday, May 8th, 2025.
Trump's major announcement will be live on this program in moments when it is live.
It's going to be happening from the Oval Office.
It's going to include a trade deal with the United Kingdom, but it will include other things, we are told by the White House.
Be prepared.
Trump making another big announcement.
And then we'll also be taking questions from the press, which is always rowdy and very enjoyable.
And we've never...
Klein, have we ever regretted taking Trump live questions to the press?
And we've never regretted it.
No.
So get ready.
Trump's in a very good mood.
He's about to go to the Middle East.
He's about to do a full tour of the world.
He's going to go visit something like 12 different countries on his way.
To absolute and total golden era dominance.
Speaking of dominance, James O 'Keefe dominating the news cycle yesterday with a Jeffrey Epstein bombshell that ain't nothing.
I'm so sick of people saying that it's nothing.
No, it's not nothing.
It's actually massive.
And we have an announcement that James O 'Keefe will be joining the show, not today, but very, very soon.
James is finally out of his black box, and we're going to be talking with him about what's going on next.
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Benny Johnson, and this is The Benny Show.
So much to talk about today.
Let's just rock and roll right away.
We're going to be speaking about tariffs this morning and America's trade partners around the world.
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen.
Rocking and rolling.
Let's just do the top line here, because we're going to hear President Trump talk about it this morning.
But just the top line here, Trump is ready to unveil major trade deals with the United Kingdom, launching tariff wars across the globe.
This is very important.
I just find it particularly delicious.
I wish that this was happening on July 4th.
I really do.
If it was happening on American Independence Day, it'd be even better.
But that England, merry old England, our father country in this nation, as it were, is the first to grovel and bend the knee.
King George wanted American colonies to bend the knee to him just something like 200 years ago.
It's crazy how much God's providence in this country has affected.
The world and Western civilization, how precious this place is.
But just 200 years ago, it was the colonists who were signing their death warrants for not bending the knee to King George.
And now it is the United Kingdom that is bending the knee first to America and many more to come.
We hear from the White House that there's going to be some big announcements in this press conference.
And so we await that.
President Trump, of course, will be live very, very soon.
Let's just read the top line here.
Donald Trump.
is expected to announce a trade deal between the United States and the United Kingdom on Thursday, live on this program in moments.
We got nothing yet.
The president, who has sought to improve America's standing and trade relations after accusing many partners of ripping them off, previewed a major deal that has been made on Thursday.
Trump wrote a big news conference tomorrow at 10 a.m.
Oval Office major deal with representatives of a big and highly respected country.
First of many, Donald Trump again will be crisscrossing the world in the coming days.
And we'll be doing more of these, we hear.
And we'll also, before he leaves, make a major groundbreaking, earth-shattering announcement that we previewed yesterday on the program.
And we can't wait to hear that.
What is that over, ALX?
ALX is just one of the smartest cookies I've ever met.
What do you think that one's about, ALX?
President Trump says it's not about trade.
And there's something big that he's been cooking up.
And Donald Trump said it's the biggest announcement that the president's ever made?
Okay.
The presidents have ended wars and civil wars and launched rockets to the moon.
So what is that about?
What is this exactly?
What is the biggest announcement that a president has ever made?
Donald Trump says it will be coming in the next couple of days.
Let us know in the chat what you think.
And producers, please, if you see any good chats, pop them up on screen.
What do you think this announcement is over?
Some people are saying that it could be world peace.
It could be the end of, you know, obviously the end of wars, right?
The end of the war in Israel, maybe the war in Ukraine.
Some people are saying that it may well be the Epstein files, after all.
I'm not a doomer, man.
You're going to hear a lot about those files from me today.
We're going to cook, ladies and gentlemen, but we're going to let President Trump cook first.
Okay, let's pop in here and see how this is being framed.
Matthew Whitaker is a friend of the show, an ally of the show, somebody who's been on the show.
He's the ambassador to NATO.
He's a complete and total baller.
He's somebody that I think should run for the governor of Iowa.
He's from Iowa.
We are allied with Matthew Whitaker.
Really like him a lot.
So I just want to get to this clip.
Him laying the groundwork for what is to come here in the White House.
Let's go.
unidentified
Give us your reaction first to this deal with the UK.
matthew whitaker
Well, this is a huge deal, and obviously President Trump is the only one that can get a deal like this done, and I would expect that there is a whole bunch of other deals that are sort of lined up.
Obviously, I know that China wants to talk now, and so many other countries want to talk, including the EU.
And so this is a great announcement, and obviously it's just the first of...
Many more to come.
And remember, you know, President Trump got elected on an America First platform.
I was out there on the campaign trail with him.
And, you know, what he said he would deliver is he's starting to deliver.
And this is extraordinary.
benny johnson
Is this a salt that lib?
Come on, let's go.
Let's do some salt in the morning.
ALX, you let me know if C2 can be a salt that lib.
This is...
The reason why we should celebrate this is, one, all the libs said that Trump would never be able to secure better trade deals for the country.
Two, it's actually Europe who's ripping America off first.
It was Europe well before it was China ripping off America.
Europe, of course, every nation in Europe owes their existence to the United States of America and our blood and our grit and our technological advancements and our culture and our Western civilization upholding culture.
Every nation in Europe should bend the knee and grovel before America because they exist because of us.
They'd all be either speaking German, Russian, or Chinese.
Just say the era, right?
They'd be toast without America.
And so I'm very thankful that it is Europe and a European country that is the first shot across the bow to bend the knee.
Libs are losing it and are...
On life support right now, Morning Joe, life support, salt, salt, salt in our cup.
We salt our cup and we salt our libs on this program.
Please let these salt shakers flow through the comment section as we salt the libs on Morning Show this morning.
unidentified
*outro music*
joe scarborough
You look for what's most likely.
Most likely those trade deals are going to come from leaders that he's more comfortable with.
And he's certainly, again...
Says he's very comfortable with Keir Starmer.
jonathan lemire
Yeah, no question there.
For President Trump, diplomacy is very personal.
I mean, there's a degree of that for most presidents.
But this one in particular, it's really whether or not he likes you.
We know there have been foreign leaders he very much did not like.
He did not care for Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada.
But this is going to be a political win for the White House, Mika.
We've already, President Trump, up very early this morning, posting around 5.30 in the morning.
We've heard from him a couple times already today about this.
They're going to have an event at 10 o 'clock.
He's going to hold a news conference along with us.
This is going to be something that they recognize.
White House AIDS have told me for a while.
It's been turbulent since so-called Liberation Day.
They've seen the markets bounce back some, but there's a lot of economic worries.
They needed to start delivering deals.
This is the first.
benny johnson
This is the first.
And that the process of tariffs, while some people saw it as painful, I saw it, and our show has always seen it with absolute clarity, as a resetting of the table.
You have to exert dominance.
There is always going to be an alpha.
There is always going to be a beta.
America is the alpha.
Today is Victory Day.
Donald Trump has declared today, May 8th, Victory Day in World War II.
And he has signaled the Iwo Jima.
The Iwo Jima statue.
Now, can we go check?
Is this victory?
Is this the day that Japan surrendered?
Or is it just writ large, the total?
Because he's using the Iwo Jima statue there.
I know there's VE Day.
Germany surrendered today.
Okay.
And Japan was September 2nd.
Okay, so we'll bundle them all together, shall we?
I like it.
Okay, victory day.
What a perfect day to then announce that England...
Has bent the knee to America once more.
People are loving this, by the way.
If you check in with our friends at Rasmussen, who are the pollsters that we trust the very most, the only ones who have really truly been right throughout the last four or five years, Rasmussen says that Donald Trump has ticked up two and three points in approval and popularity.
There's a little bit of a dip.
There's always a little bit of a dip, especially when presidents start doing things like, you know, upsetting the apple cart.
And here's a just thought.
Pretty lively clip from this morning on Fox News, where they ask a restaurant in Nashville, like, do you like what President Trump is doing with tariffs?
unidentified
Let's go.
We're celebrating Small Business Week, and we're here in Nashville, Tennessee, at Puckett's, in a room full of people who love small businesses.
So tell us, how many people here love small businesses?
There we go.
How many people here like what Donald Trump is doing with tariffs?
All right.
There you have it.
benny johnson
This is probably a correct time to announce that we will be doing a meetup at a restaurant here in Tampa for Student Action Summit.
That's going to be in July.
Producers, please grab me the exact dates.
We don't have graphics to put up yet, but we're going to like blow it out.
We're going to be right here on the water.
Let Benny buy you a beer, right?
And come do a meetup with us.
This is going to be, again, for Turning Point Action, Turning Point's Student Action Summit.
It's going to be here in Tampa.
And this is our hometown, so we're going to throw it down.
We're going to do a massive meetup at a great restaurant called American Social right here.
It's a very patriotic restaurant.
It's owned by huge Trump supporters.
It's right on the water.
Here's some of the promo for it.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's okay.
All right.
Scoot along.
Thank you.
Look at that.
Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump Jr., Tucker Carlson, Ben Carson, Brandon Tatum, and James O 'Keefe.
James always does a party.
Maybe we should do a united party with James.
You ever thought about that?
I was on the phone with him yesterday.
All right.
Here we go.
We're on the phone with James yesterday.
Hot damn.
James is going to be giving this audience and this show his first exclusive.
Interview after this bombshell from yesterday.
And let's cover that, shall we?
World exclusive.
Prince Andrew is a predator, is a pedophile.
That's the world exclusive.
Now, some of you may say, well, didn't we already know this about Prince Andrew?
Didn't he have to settle with Virginia Roberts over all of this?
And what I would say to you is that there is illusion and then there's confirmation.
James O 'Keefe has his confirmation, and then you have the question, which is, why hasn't he been charged?
I mean, she shouldn't just be able to fork over hundreds of millions of pounds out of the royal treasury.
It's not like this costs Prince Andrew anything to Virginia Roberts, and then she gets killed for all of it.
So if you take a step back and go to the James O 'Keefe post about this, I want to just go through this and then we're going to cover what James released yesterday because I think it's really prescient and it's very important.
And it's led to the most important piece of content that came out yesterday.
And if I may be so bold, it had nothing to do, it has to do with what James did, but it also has to do with this show and what we've done together as an audience.
And that's the Pam Bondi clip from yesterday.
People are missing the plot here.
Didn't we already know this?
Well, no, actually!
We haven't had it from official channels.
So I'm going to lock it all up here, okay?
Let's put it all together.
Again, we will not miss President Trump's surprise announcement from inside the Oval Office.
We got it all locked in and ready to go.
We'll cut to Trump when he's ready to cook.
It's our kitchen right now.
James O 'Keefe, who is a man who I've worked with for close to two decades.
Uh, is, is a animal.
When he gets pissed off about an issue, he's gonna go in and, and, and, and he's gonna do, he's gonna break things, right?
I watched him do this.
He edited the Acorn videos on my couch, all right?
Like, this was, the Acorn videos destroyed the, uh, nascent Obama presidency, which was so patinaed and so pitch, they'd worked so hard, Hollywood had worked so hard to get their, like, Obama moment, and James O 'Keefe just, like, smashes him in the face with a sledgehammer.
Breaks their nose, bloodies the face, right?
Hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud and voter fraud exposed by James O 'Keefe in the first days of the Obama administration.
Obama has to humiliatingly go out, apologize for it.
It sets the tone for a nightmare of fraudulence and corruption, which was the Obama era.
And so that was James, right, getting a bee in his bonnet.
And then when I saw this tweet, I said, he's going to cook.
I said, he's going to cook.
He says it's time for citizen journalists to release more on Epstein.
They can't kill us all.
More coming soon.
This is Virginia Roberts saying she's not suicidal.
Virginia Roberts was the foremost witness to the Epstein crimes.
She was sex-slaved and sold to the royal family.
She got a payout from the royal family.
She said she's not suicidal.
Then she commits suicide.
After getting hit by a bus in the Australian Outback, she lives in a rural part of Australia.
Australia has a 1% urbanization rate.
Most of Australia is completely empty.
And she gets hit by a bus?
Out of the middle of nowhere?
Then she says she has four days to live.
Then she commits suicide.
Her father says that story's garbage.
Her lawyer says that story's garbage.
Will we ever get the truth?
Here she is saying that there are evil people that want to see me killed.
James O 'Keefe says, well, how about I out those evil people?
And then James O 'Keefe releases yesterday.
From a, about as impeccable of a source as you can get inside of the royal family, these tapes.
Ladies and gentlemen, what James O 'Keefe released yesterday was a Prince Andrew press flack and royal family advocate, somebody who's raised children inside of the royal family, on camera, his name's John Bryan.
And he says, yeah, Prince Andrew was absolutely engaged with underage children, putting that lightly.
So here is part of the report, and we're going to take this on piece by piece.
Here we go.
james okeefe
Prince Andrew's connection to Jeffrey Epstein emerged in 2010.
When photos showed them walking together in New York's Central Park.
Epstein had already been convicted in 2008 of procuring a 14-year-old girl for prostitution.
In 2014, a woman named Virginia Giuffre alleged in a Florida court filing that Jeffrey Epstein paid her to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17, a minor.
On April 25th, a few weeks ago, Giuffre died by, quote, suicide.
Prince Andrew denied Jouffre's sex abuse allegations in a now infamous 2019 BBC interview.
emily maitlis
She said she had sex with you three times, once on his private island in a group of seven or eight other girls.
unidentified
No.
emily maitlis
No to all of it?
unidentified
All of it.
Absolutely no to all of it.
james okeefe
The interview was a public relations disaster for the royal family and prompted the Queen to strip Prince Andrew of his royal duties.
In the aftermath of that interview, the prince sought advice from a longtime royal family confidant, John Bryan.
benny johnson
So John Bryan is explained here.
You've probably never heard of him.
I hadn't heard of him, right?
I'm no royal family expert.
But John Bryan is, let's just say, the last word when it comes to crisis PR management and the internal operations inside of the royal family.
Let's go.
james okeefe
Two weeks after Prince Andrew's BBC interview, John Bryan was brought to the Royal Lodge, where Prince Andrew lives, to offer crisis management advice.
According to the Telegraph, the meeting was conducted discreetly.
At the Royal Residence, Bryan observed that Prince Andrew was visibly distressed and struggling to focus.
Reportedly, Unable to concentrate for more than 40 minutes at a time due to the strain he was under.
As reported in the Daily Mail, John Bryan constructed a five-page document emphasizing that Prince Andrew should publicly show empathy for Epstein's victims.
Back in November 2022, Bryan publicly stated that he believed Prince Andrew was innocent of the claims made against him related to the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking scheme.
Now.
In our exclusive hidden camera undercover footage, John Bryan reveals for the first time that Prince Andrew did, in fact, have sex with underage girls.
benny johnson
I am blown away that people can't understand the value of this.
From a journalistic perspective, let's go to the John Bryan tapes here and then we're going to unpack all of it with some breaking news from Kash Patel that happened just seconds ago in Congress.
What's your issue?
unidentified
I was so pissed about that.
I was really pissed.
I was really pissed because he lied to me about it.
Lied about?
Epstein.
Yeah.
No, I knew he saw him, but he lied to me that he was such a close friend.
I was so pissed.
And then I did a big thing in the Daily Mail saying that I believed Andrew.
And then I found out he was lying.
That was so pissed.
And he was f***ing wondering if he's not.
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
Where are the charges?
This is what James is building.
This is part one of a multi-part series of investigations, and I need you to take a big, massive step back, if anybody's a hater on this, and say, we already knew this, right?
Take a massive step back and understand how do you actually get charges?
How do you bring people to justice?
How do you put handcuffs on the royal family?
You have to present a case in the court of public opinion because these people control the courts.
They control the prosecutors.
They control the press.
They control the papers.
They control ABC News.
Do we have that clip?
James O 'Keefe, first major.
I think it's right here, clip F. This proves it.
If we can load this as a play-side, please.
This is James O 'Keefe proving from the inside that the royal family controls American media.
You have to create such an overwhelming avalanche against these people that you break them.
This is just one of the first major exposés done by James on Epstein.
Amy Rohrbach, in a tape that I cannot fathom how James got.
Amy Rohrbach, the number one news anchor on ABC at the time that this was released, saying it was the royal family.
That destroyed all of my Epstein reporting and protected Bill Clinton of all.
amy robach
I've had the story for three years.
I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts.
We would not put it on the air.
First of all, I was told, who's Jeffrey Epstein?
No one knows who that is.
This is a stupid story.
Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.
We were so afraid we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will that also quashed the story.
And then Alan Dershowitz was also implicated in it because of the planes.
She told me everything.
She had pictures.
She had everything.
She was in hiding for 12 years.
We convinced her to come out.
We convinced her to talk to us.
It was unbelievable what we had.
Clinton.
We had everything.
benny johnson
We had everything.
We had pictures.
Where are the pictures?
Virginia Roberts is on camera in interviews saying that she can tell you that Bill Clinton was there.
She can show you where the cameras were.
Virginia Roberts is a living piece of testimony, and her death is what's prompted James O 'Keefe to do this story and to begin to pry back how these people actually operate and how they've protected the world's foremost pederast.
Please take a second and take a massive step back and understand how powerful these people are and how dark their crimes are and what it means about our society.
If you're a moral person, you can't say that you're on God's side when you're running and funding a predator ring, a pedo ring.
We can't robe ourselves in delusion and say that this is a moral nation when it's clearly not.
If the CIA is running predator rings and we know that Jeffrey Epstein belonged to Intel, we know that the federal government is currently, right now, in possession of mountains, voluminous mountains of evidence, digital, physical, and otherwise.
We have the photos.
You can see inside of Jeffrey Epstein's mansion on the Upper East Side in Manhattan.
We have the photos.
You can see his safe that they cracked into the bags of diamonds.
You can see the manila envelopes filled with foreign passports.
To what nations exactly?
And how do you get those?
What about all of those CDs?
Those CDs that were marked nudes?
I mean, you can read the writing on the top of the CDs.
It says nudes on them.
Pics and nudes.
Like, of who exactly?
I'm not some perv.
I don't need, like, not some pervert.
What I'm trying to figure out is, like, why would Jeffrey Epstein have his own box of evidence marked here?
That evidence tape was put on there.
These hard drives had evidence?
Yellow evidence tape strung around it, according to the special agent in charge from the FBI, by Epstein.
She testified in court.
Her team didn't put that there.
What the hell's on there?
Is that why they killed Virginia Roberts?
Because Virginia Roberts was a living piece of testimony that they couldn't delete.
So they needed to delete or control F Virginia Roberts.
Is that what happened?
James Comer said that that's what's happening to all the digital and physical evidence that is being deleted.
Now this clip pissed off all the right or wrong people.
This clip from our show earlier in the week, just two days ago, has changed everything.
And so we're very proud to be fighting this information war in parallel with James.
He was James Comer.
This man, in case you don't know him, he's in charge of government accountability and oversight.
It's like, as big as you can get.
He's the guy who should be in charge.
He's in charge of all this, right?
He's oversight of government and these black ops.
Like, this is his role.
And he says it's all gone.
It's all been deleted.
james comer
I hope.
James has the Epstein files because I don't think the Department of Justice has them, or at least the Attorney General does not have them or she would have turned them over.
The President ordered them released.
The Attorney General ordered them released.
We all know they have not been released.
And one of my biggest fears that I had, and I expressed this with Kash Patel and a lot of people, Stephen Miller, and a lot of people going into the new administration, I'm like, you know, I hope...
they're not shredding documents right now.
This was a few weeks before the transition.
I said, I hope they're not shredding documents, but you all need to go.
benny johnson
So James Comer goes into a five-minute diatribe about how the deep state and intel agencies shred and delete and destroy documents.
And this is the man who, more than any other member of Congress, got us Trump's presidency.
Why?
Because he's the only man that looked into the Biden crime family.
And did enough work and was able to bulldoze and bulldog through and to find enough evidence of criminality that he really wasn't able to destroy that entire empire.
And so you're talking about the last word when it comes to congressional investigations and he's telling us that they're deleting files.
Well, that clip got some people very angry because this physical file still exists.
You can still see it.
It's burned.
It's seared into the back of my brain that Jeffrey Epstein had tubs of hard drives marked evidence.
What the hell is that about?
That the FBI, when a drone was capturing the sheer amount of evidence that they were pulling out of Jeffrey Epstein's island, which is what this footage is.
We're the only show that'll ever show you this footage.
I don't know why.
It's all real.
It's all out there.
I can't, for the life of me, figure out why we're the only people interested in this stuff.
Here's drone footage of Little St. James, Epstein's predator island, where Bill Clinton was on the Epstein jet, where...
Witnesses, women who were sex trafficked, in court documents say they saw and witnessed Bill Clinton here on this island in this room.
And the FBI is putting up, blacking out the windows so that people can't see.
What an apt metaphor.
What a perfect metaphor.
Before they blacked out the windows, you could see that they were bringing in hard drives, rack and stacks.
They were carrying out boxes of evidence.
There it is.
That's the photo.
You can see him walking there.
unidentified
Yep.
benny johnson
Carrying out boxes of evidence.
Where did it all go?
Where is it?
Well, ladies and gentlemen, because of our reporting and because of our insistent asking and because of you, because you let us know in the comment section that you want justice for these predators.
We shouldn't have a nation of predators running this thing.
What a demonic and sad sunken nation if we let these demons run everything, right?
No.
Exorcise the demons.
Put them in prison.
Okay, or worse.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we go.
Pam Bondi yesterday, much like James O 'Keefe, this is earth-shattering because it's confirmation, it's admission by witnesses and top law enforcement agents that not only have we been lied to about Epstein, that they have more than we could ever think of.
Here's Pam Bondi for the first time ever, a federal law enforcement agent saying, yes, we have 10...
Thousand different tapes of powerful people in illegal and compromising positions with underage children.
Here we go.
pam bondi
No, no, the FBI.
Yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing.
There are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn.
And there are hundreds of victims and no one victim will ever get released.
It's just the volume.
And that's what they're going through right now.
The FBI is diligently going through that.
I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.
benny johnson
Reminder that from inside of the FBI and inside of specifically the Southern District of New York.
When Pam Bondi released those binders with the Epstein evidence, which we've set our peace on that, right?
We've set our peace.
Pam Bondi was clearly furious about that.
We've set our peace.
That was a humiliation.
Here's what existed.
Here's what happened there.
Those binders that are now, you know, live in infamy, those binders were filled with already publicly available Epstein flight logs and some scribbles by Epstein.
But the contents of the binders themselves were redacted.
Already public information that was redacted.
So it was just insult, spitting on insult and salt on the wound.
And so that was just a nightmare.
And the official statement from the Southern District of New York and from the FBI was, that's all we've got!
Please see this for the massive W that it is.
That James O 'Keefe in one parallel line is applying pressure to the most powerful family on earth, the royal family, the most powerful family that maintains control over their kingdom, the royal family, right?
That James is applying pressure because they lied.
They still represent that Prince Andrew did nothing wrong.
They're trying to charge Russell Brand for something that happened in 1999.
Yet here we have a member of the royal family whose main confidants are on tape saying he did it.
Oh yeah, he did it.
That's one parallel track that links perfectly with our track here applying pressure to the DOJ to admit what they have.
Is Prince Andrew on the tapes?
Well, that would probably, the answer is yes.
And that would probably be the best possible result here is that you do release all of the tapes.
Not here to say that you should destroy people's lives who've been sex trafficked or harmed, okay?
We're not into that.
But you can at least identify people who are in these tapes.
Powerful men or women.
Remember, Jelaine Maxwell.
Whose dad worked for Mossad.
Whose dad got a state funeral in Israel.
Jeffrey Epstein groomed by Bill Barr's dad.
Who was one of the original founding agents of the CIA.
The entire thing is an Intel op.
And the entire thing was allowed by Intel.
Please put up the article.
Don't worry.
Jeffrey Epstein belongs to Intel.
The FBI let Jeffrey Epstein free.
There's a charging note that says, let him go.
He works for us.
He's an undercover informant.
Jeffrey Epstein works for us.
There's so much of this stuff.
Yeah, the Alex Acosta article.
I was told that Epstein belongs to intelligence and to leave him alone.
It seems like a movie, but it's all actual American history.
This is the guy who was in charge of federally prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein in Palm Beach when they had him dead to rights on child sex trafficking.
Dead to rights, the year was 2008.
I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence.
And you know, just one final thing before we play you, this breaking news from Cash Patel.
Cash Patel is in Congress right now answering questions, and he just broke massive news on this.
There's only, in case you're wondering, is...
It makes me so angry.
There's a bunch of people out there now on the right who are clearly trying to break up MAGA and are saying, oh, well, Donald Trump's actually preventing the release of the Epstein files because Donald Trump's implicated, blah, blah, blah, right?
They're trying to seed that.
It's an op.
It's clearly an op.
It's probably a Chinese op or an Iranian op to sow discord in MAGA.
Let me put a bullet in that right now.
Donald Trump, during this case, when the feds were trying to lock up Jeffrey Epstein, For clear as day, sex predation, being a sex predator in Palm Beach, the prosecutors are on video saying there's only one member of the Palm Beach community that showed up to put Jeffrey Epstein in prison, and it was Donald Trump.
Only one guy who was part of this overall, like, larger West Palm Beach, Richie McRich community, Showed up.
Everybody else hid their head in the sand, cowered in fear, ran into their homes and locked the door.
It was President Trump who walked directly to the prosecutor and said, what do you need on Epstein?
I will give it to you.
I will help put this monster in prison.
This is after President Trump had banned Epstein from his club.
And of course, Epstein was there in order to try and groom Donald, in order to try and get compromise on Donald Trump.
This is what they need so badly.
Donald Trump would probably be on his seventh term right now if they were able to get compromise on Donald Trump and get everything they want and be able to manipulate him, right?
That's what they did to Bill Gates, and that's what they did to Bill Clinton, and that's what they've done to the royal family.
But they don't have that, so they hate Trump for it.
They hate it because they can't control him.
Talk about control, man.
Look at the reporting that this chat, that you, that we have done together.
Because we refuse to let this go.
Because we refuse to, like, hang our head and be cucked and cower like so many other Republicans, like the billionaires of Palm Beach.
Because we refuse to do it because we keep asking questions.
Now, not only do we get the Pam Bondi result, where Pam Bondi has admitted that the government has 10,000 tapes of powerful people on camera with Jeffrey Epstein that she classified as child porn.
Tell you what, man, Bill Clinton is probably looking to book his own flight to a country that does not have reciprocity with the United States, judicial reciprocity.
I'm telling you, man.
But also, now we get this from Cash Patel.
It's breaking news.
This happened just moments ago inside of the United States Senate.
Cash Patel speaking with Senator Kennedy from Louisiana.
On the Epstein file, Senator Kennedy famous for using Epstein as a punchline.
He said Jeffrey Epstein, something like Jeffrey Epstein and Christmas ornaments, two things that don't hang themselves.
Okay.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
Breaking news.
Cash Patel moments ago inside the Senate.
john kennedy
Person with a brain and a beating heart.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
john kennedy
Did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself or did somebody kill him?
unidentified
Senator, I believe he hung himself in a cell in the Metropolitan Tension Center.
john kennedy
Are you going to release all the information about that?
unidentified
Senator, we are working through that right now with the Department of Justice.
john kennedy
When you think you'll have it done, Cash?
unidentified
I think in the near future, sir.
john kennedy
Like before I die?
unidentified
Senator, we are...
We've been working on that, and we're doing it in a way that protects victims and also doesn't put out into the ether information that is irrelevant for production of the public, such as CSAM.
john kennedy
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
benny johnson
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
Can you check in on CSAM?
I don't know what that acronym is.
What is CSAM?
Oh, sources and methods?
Is that it?
Did I just do that?
Yeah, sources and methods, right?
Okay.
No, oh, okay.
Child porn.
Child sex abuse material.
Okay, got it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, let's be clear-eyed here, shall we?
And again, ladies and gentlemen, we are awaiting President Trump.
The announcement was for 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
It is 1048 a.m. Eastern Standard Time right now.
We are awaiting President Trump's announcement from inside of the Oval Office with a massive trade deal.
So we're just...
And I'm really glad that we get a chance to talk shop on this.
I really...
I think this issue is so important.
Why are you so obsessed with this?
Aren't you more obsessed with what's going on right now?
And we do have a clip.
If you wouldn't mind, can you grab me that clip from Cash and from Dan Bongino?
I need the Dan.
Dan Bongino told us something massive yesterday.
I want to, like, get to that.
And Dan Bongino said something that shouldn't be missed.
The Dan Bongino tweet, quote, tweeting Cash.
Cash Patel there says we will be getting the Epstein videos and files.
I don't agree with Cash saying that did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself in his cell?
I don't agree with that.
But, you know, is it for him to say right now?
I sure would hope that there would be maybe a more thorough investigation into what was going on there.
Oh, ladies and gentlemen, and here we go.
Here is President Trump live from the White House, here at his desk.
donald j trump
I just want to begin by saying that this is live right now.
This is a very special day because it's Victory Day, World War II, May 8th.
And just by happenstance, we have the Prime Minister on the phone, and we were great allies in that.
And it's very unusual that the trade deal comes due, and we signed it up on...
The same day that we had a great victory, the greatest victory of them all.
So we are talking more and more about Victory Day because we were a big part of it.
And so was the UK.
And it's just, I guess, I don't know what you call it.
It's just incredible that that day is the same day that we signed a tremendous trade deal for both countries.
So I'm going to begin by just adding that we just concluded the rare earth deal with Ukraine.
That's been fully ratified and approved by their legislative branches.
And so we appreciate that.
And I'll be speaking with the president in a little while, a little bit later.
And we appreciate that.
But the deal is all now signed up and ratified.
And we have access to a massive amount of very, very high quality rare earth.
This morning, I'm thrilled to announce that we have reached a breakthrough, but it's really, in particular, the agreement with one of our closest and most cherished allies.
And we're so happy that that's the way it worked out.
I want to thank Prime Minister Starmer and his very talented team for their outstanding work and partnership.
Today's agreement with the UK is the first in a series of agreements on trade that my administration has been negotiating over the past four weeks.
With this deal, the UK joins the United States in affirming that reciprocity and fairness is an essential and vital principle of international trade.
The deal includes billions of dollars of increased market access for American exports.
Especially in agriculture, dramatically increasing access for American beef, ethanol, and virtually all of the products produced by our great farmers and our secretary, as you know, of agriculture is here, Brooke.
Thank you very much for being here.
You'll let the farmers know.
In addition, the UK will reduce or eliminate numerous non-tariff barriers that...
Unfairly discriminated against American products, but this is now turning out, I think, really to be a great deal for both countries because it'll be really great for the UK also.
So they're opening up the country.
Their country is a little closed, and we appreciate that.
They'll also be fast-tracking American goods through their customs process, so our exports go to a very, very quick form of approval, and there won't be any red tape.
Things are going to move very quickly both ways.
The final details are being written up in the coming weeks.
We'll have it all very conclusive, but the actual deal is a very conclusive one.
We think just about everything's been approved.
So good for both countries.
And we'll also receive new market access for American chemicals, machinery, and many other industrial products that weren't allowed.
And they'll end up getting products that they'll be able to price.
If they like them better and we make great products, they'll be buying those products, but they were not available in the UK.
Furthermore, in a historic step, the deal includes plans that will bring the United Kingdom into the economic security alignment with the United States.
That's the first of its kind.
So we have a big economic security blanket, and that's very important, and we feel very, very comfortable with that because it's been a great ally, truly one of our great allies.
A lot of people say, Our greatest ally.
I don't want to insult people by saying that, but I can say it's certainly one of our greatest, and right at the top.
And they're the first one we're talking about.
And by the way, we have many meetings planned today and tomorrow, and every country wants to be making deals.
And we have a meeting, as you know, Scott will be going over to Switzerland on Saturday, and that'll be very, very interesting.
Let's find out.
But I think they want to make a deal very badly, too.
Both countries have agreed that the economic security is national security and we'll be working together as allies to ensure that we have a strong industrial base, appropriate export controls and protections for key technologies and industries like steel.
Steel is a big factor.
Both countries will become stronger with steel and things necessary for military.
You know, we used to build ships and other things literally at a level that nobody's ever seen.
We've eased up, and I would say that the UK certainly eased up, but now we're going to be uneasing both, and we work together.
Once again, I want to thank Prime Minister Starmer.
He's been terrific for his partnership in this matter, the special relationship and external bond.
It's really an external and an internal bond between our two countries.
We'll soon be stronger than ever before, and we really do.
We have a great relationship.
I want to just say that the representatives of the UK have been so professional.
And it's been an honor doing business with all of them, and in particular the Prime Minister.
And I'd like to introduce him now to say a few words.
Mr. Prime Minister, please take it away.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President Donald.
And this is a really fantastic historic day in which we can announce this deal between our two great countries.
And I think it's a real tribute.
To the history that we have of working so closely together.
Can I pay tribute, Donald, to your negotiating team as well, particularly Howard and Jameson, who've done an incredible job, a very professional job, and my team as well.
Two negotiating teams have worked at Pace now for a number of weeks to bring in this deal today.
Really important deal.
This is going to boost trade.
Between and across our countries, it's going to not only protect jobs, but create jobs, opening market access.
And as you say, Donald, the timing couldn't be more apt because not only was it 80 years ago today that victory came for Europe.
After and at the end of the Second World War.
But of course, on that day, the UK and the US stood together as the closest of allies.
And Donald, I think, even down to the hour, because you may or may not know that it was about this time of day, exactly 80 years ago, that Winston Churchill announced victory in Europe.
And that led to great celebrations.
Across Europe, across America, but particularly in the United Kingdom.
Literally people going out into the street, putting bunting up, going up to the palace.
And so to be able to announce this great deal on the same day, 80 years forward, almost at the same hour.
And as we were 80 years ago, with the UK and the US standing side by side, I think is incredibly important and makes this truly historic.
That close relationship has endured over those 80 years.
As you know, Donald, when it comes to defence and security and intelligence sharing, of course.
There are no two countries that are closer than our two countries.
And now we take this into new and important territory by adding trade and the economy to the closeness of our relationship.
It is built, as you say, on those notions of fairness and reciprocal arrangements.
We've always had a fair and balanced arrangement between our countries.
This builds on that.
Hugely important.
For sectors like car manufacturing and for steel and aluminium and so many others.
And yes, we can finish hunting out some of the details, but there's a fantastic platform here, including, of course, on the tech side, where I think I'm right in saying we're the only two Western countries with trillion dollar sectors when it comes to tech.
And in the end, it comes down to, as you say, Donald, economic security is national security.
On national security, we've been absolutely the closest of allies for so many years, keeping the peace through that close alliance, that friendship.
And now we add to that this...
Deal on trade and the economy.
And I want to thank you for your leadership on that, Donald, and for the way in which your team have negotiated this.
I'm so pleased that we've got this deal.
We've finalised it.
And we've built an incredible platform for the future.
So, thank you so much.
Donald, I'm now going to go and do a press conference.
I think you have your press in with you.
But on the details, I think if you've got Howard, we can deal with that through one of my team.
donald j trump
That's great.
Well, Mr. Prime Minister, thank you very much.
It's an honor.
We're going to have a continued, maybe a better relationship than ever before.
You know, I don't know if the media knows, but the U.S. and U.K. have been working for years to try and make a deal.
And it never quite got there.
It did with this Prime Minister.
I want to just congratulate you.
unidentified
Well, with this President, this Prime Minister, we've managed to achieve what many people have tried to achieve for many years.
And I'm really pleased.
And it feels completely historic and on a special 80-year anniversary as well.
So, Donald, thank you so much.
It's really good to have got this deal over the line.
Tribute to both teams, tribute to our countries and tribute to your leadership.
donald j trump
Well, it really is a great thing.
And you go do your press conference and I'll see you soon.
Maybe speak to you later.
But thank you very much.
An incredible thing.
I can't tell you that for so many years, even as I sat, everybody talked and talked and talked about a deal.
It just seemed like a natural deal, but it was not done.
But now it was done with us.
So I feel very proud to have been a part of it.
Kier, thank you very much.
unidentified
Thanks, Donald.
And we'll speak again soon.
donald j trump
Very good.
So long.
Bye.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Why don't I do this?
Why don't I have our Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnick, give a little description of the deal pretty quick.
And then the good side, the very nice side, we'll be speaking about it also, maybe.
So you get pretty equal.
I think it's a very...
It's just been a deal that was, we thought, very complicated.
It became very simple.
It's opening up.
The country that we really didn't have the kind of access to that I would have thought.
I was surprised.
I think it's why the deal never got done before.
They've been working on this deal for 25 years.
And we got it done and we got it done.
Really, it's going to be great for both countries.
So, Saradip, you could go.
And then somebody else, you may have...
You'll pick whoever you want who'd like to do it.
I have a feeling you're going to do it, right?
So, you guys go ahead and then we'll take questions right after that.
But I think you'll get a pretty good understanding of it.
How big it is.
It's a very large deal, very big deal.
And Howard, go ahead.
howard lutnick
So the UK is the sixth largest economy in the world and the fourth largest that we export to, right?
So it's a huge market, a top 10 market.
If you remember Liberation Day, they were at 10% because we have balanced trade with the UK.
They say they have a surplus, but of course, that counts gold bullion.
So let's just call it balanced trade.
So how do you open up a market in balanced trade?
People think it's impossible.
They've always thought it was impossible until President Trump came on the scene and changed the way things work.
So here's what we've got.
We've opened up new market access.
Ethanol, beef, machinery.
All the agricultural products, they've agreed to open their markets, and that will add $5 billion of opportunity to American exporters.
So the question is, why would they do that now?
Because they've never done it before.
And we still have a 10% tariff on, which will produce $6 billion of revenue for the United States.
So the idea was, how do they keep their jobs, protect their economy, and do the best for their people while opening the market for us?
And the ways they studied it, their team was exceptional, and they tried to figure out the markets that they're importing from other people and try to send them over to America.
So why were they always favoring others and not us?
And what they've done is they've found the ways to do that so that we have new access, right?
UK workers are protected.
And that was the balance.
So you've got, we did a deal with them in automobiles.
And you know, if you're not building here, we charge you a 25% tariff.
But the president, and by the way, I want to make this clear, while Jameson and I worked hard, this was the president's deal.
And people think, oh, that's not the way it works.
If you get to sit next to him, I have the best dealmaker to my left.
unidentified
And if you don't think that we take advantage of him, calling the prime minister and getting that deal done.
howard lutnick
You don't understand who's the President of the United States.
So he's the closer.
He gets deals done that we could never get done because he understands business.
He understands deals.
And that's why we're here today.
So he agreed they could send 100,000 cars into America and only pay a 10% tarot.
And that protects their car industry.
And remember, we do 16 million cars a year.
So this is only like 0.6%.
But for the UK auto people, this is tens of thousands of jobs that the president agreed that he would protect for them.
So he made that deal, right?
Then steel and aluminum, right?
Their steel business has been destroyed like everybody else has been destroyed by people dumping steel into their markets.
And British Steel had announced it was closing down.
So the British government, as part of this deal, nationalized British Steel.
And they're going to match the kinds of models we do.
They'll put tariffs on.
They'll put quotas on.
They want to do it with America so they can be part of the resurgence of steel and aluminum in America.
And that saves them, again, thousands and thousands of jobs.
So if you go step by step, aero and commercial planes, they sell Rolls-Royce engines to Boeing.
We've agreed.
To let Rolls-Royce engines and those kind of plane parts to come over tariff-free.
And what you're going to hear today is there's going to be an announcement in the UK that they are buying $10 billion worth of Boeing planes later today.
But I'm going to let the name of the airline announce it because that's theirs to do.
But part of this deal was always to do it together and to do it strong.
And you can see the numbers on this board.
Everything about this board works exceptionally well for the United States of America.
It lays out the plan that you can work with us in autos.
You can work with us with aero and commercial.
You can work with us in pharmaceuticals if you have a supply chain that is secure and protected in national security.
So we feel really good about the deal.
You've heard the Prime Minister.
He feels really good about the deal, right?
And we started at 10% and we ended at 10%.
And the market for America is better.
And this is a perfect example of why Donald Trump produced Liberation Day.
People don't understand he gets things done.
In a matter of time, this would have taken Jameson and I three years, maybe.
And instead, we got it done in 45 days, certainly, because we work for Donald Trump.
So, Jameson, my partner in all this, maybe Jameson, you'd like to talk a little, and then we'll turn it over to the UK.
unidentified
Everyone has great remarks.
I just have to echo the President and the Prime Minister when we talk about VE Day.
This is something we've been waiting for for decades, and there's no more appropriate date to do this.
When we step back and we look back a few weeks from now, or months from now, or years from now, we're looking back at this day and better appreciate the significance, I think.
And I'll just say as well, in terms of negotiating, I mean, the UK negotiators...
We've got one right here.
Did an incredible job, right?
This is why you've been worse, right?
When you act like this.
The ambassador, he knows more about trade than a lot of us here based on his background.
And I would say on this deal, Mr. President, what we've shown is that it is time to change the way we do trade.
People said we couldn't do a global tariff.
We did a global tariff.
They said no one would want to deal with us.
People want to deal.
We said no one give offers.
You saw that stack of offers I showed you yesterday.
All those countries said we wouldn't get deals.
And here we are with the deal with the sixth largest economy.
We've agreed to have fair reciprocal trade and we've done it in record time.
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Great job.
unidentified
Well, Mr. President, thank you very much indeed in hosting us this morning.
And thank you very much indeed also for that very typical 11th hour intervention by you in your phone call to the President demanding even more out of this deal than any of us expected.
So thank you for that.
The Prime Minister was delighted obviously to take that call later tonight.
But you took it to another level and I think the point I would make is twofold.
One is...
That if we're going to rebalance and rebuild international trade in a way that serves all our interests, then we're better doing that together than separately and apart, and that's what we're on a mission to do.
But secondly, you've done what you said you would do.
You said to the Prime Minister when he came and we visited in the Oval...
That you would do a good trade deal with the United Kingdom, that you would do it at pace, and that we would be first.
And you have delivered that.
You've been true to your word.
So thank you very much indeed for that.
For us, it's not the end.
It's the end just of the beginning.
I mean, there is yet more we can do in reducing tariffs and trade barriers so as to open up our markets to each other, even more than we are agreeing to do today.
But it also provides us with the platform, the springboard.
I think we can harness science and technology in order to create Future industries and future jobs.
And to do that together in the way we work so closely already in the national security and defense area, we can just take that to yet further areas of science, enterprise and endeavors.
So we're looking forward to doing that in the coming months.
You've launched us extremely well today.
It just...
In my view, as the Prime Minister has said, just shows what two countries who trust each other, who are confident in each other and are familiar with each other, can do not just for ourselves, but for those in the rest of the world who need to benefit from a bigger and better international trading system.
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Beautifully stated.
What a beautiful accent.
I'd like to have that accent.
unidentified
Thank you.
My mother would be proud.
Thank you very much.
Can I ask why Britain and why now?
You've described this deal as a full and comprehensive deal and yet it's the end of the beginning.
Clearly there's much more work still to do.
With respect, are you overstating the reach and significance of this deal because you're a president who needs a result at a difficult time?
donald j trump
I think that it's a great deal for both parties.
It's for us.
We're opened up.
I didn't know how close it was.
Quite close, the market, as you know, the UK.
And it opens up a tremendous market for us.
And it works out very well, very well.
And a lot of assets, you see the chart, and those are tremendous assets.
But we've been trying, and when you say, why us, meaning your country?
We've been trying for years, and they've been trying for years to make a deal, including when I was in the first term.
It would always be people talking, but they weren't getting it done.
But for 25 years before that, they were trying always to make a deal, a very significant deal.
I actually, until I looked at the numbers, I didn't realize this is a very conclusive deal.
But we think we can grow it even from that.
But this is a maxed out deal, not like you said it.
You said it really incorrectly.
This is a maxed out deal that we're going to make bigger.
And we make it bigger through growth.
But we have tremendous assets involved.
I was surprised to see how big your country is.
Actually, one of the biggest in technology and so many other things.
It's agriculture.
I really didn't know.
Depending on your definition, it's from four to five to six.
That's pretty big in the world.
So I was very impressed by that.
But we're going to take it to new levels.
It's a very big deal right now.
But I think it is going to grow.
Just of its own volition, it's going to grow.
And over time, there'll be changes made.
There'll be adjustments made because we're flexible.
We'll see things that we can do even better.
But it's very conclusive.
And we think everyone's going to be happy.
And the people of your country are going to be very impressed with The result.
And they'll be able to buy from more people.
They'll be able to price things differently.
They'll be able to get some products that aren't available to them now that we make better than anybody in the world.
And it's just something that it's a great thing that it came together.
It's so nice because we have many countries want to make a deal.
And many countries are very unhappy that we happen to choose this one, to be honest with you.
But it's a long time.
Our oldest ally, or just about.
I guess a couple of people claim that too, but let's put it right at the top.
I think it's going to be something very special for UK and special for the United States.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
Reagan Reese with The Daily Caller.
How close are you to more deals and when do you expect the next to be announced?
donald j trump
Well, very close.
We have numerous deals.
I know Howard's going back.
As soon as this is finished, your press conference, he's got numerous.
And Scott, who's right over here, who's fantastic, by the way.
You were great on television this morning.
I'll watch, you know.
unidentified
You gave them a little lesson in the world in economics.
donald j trump
But Scott's going to be going to Switzerland, meeting with China.
And, you know, they very much want to make a deal.
We can all play games.
Who made the first call?
Who didn't make it?
It doesn't matter.
It only matters what happens in that room.
But I will tell you that China very much wants to make a deal.
We'll see how that works out.
Every country throughout the last 40, 50 years has literally ripped off the United States on trade, on military, on protection, on all the different things.
And we are now making fair deals.
And in this case, it's great because we really weren't very much involved.
You have the European Union, which is, I think, you know, I think you made the right decision years ago.
I don't know if you remember I was opening up Turnberry the day that you were voting.
And they asked me, would it happen or would it not happen?
I said, no, I think they're going to go their own separate way.
I think it's better for them.
And they did.
I think it's going to end up being a very smart decision.
But a big part of that decision was always that you'd be able to make a deal with the United States.
And they were unable to do that.
But now they made it.
And it's a tremendous, you know, it's very important.
That was always a big part of your decision on Brexit.
And they were never able to make that deal.
It was, you know, it was a tough one.
And this one was it's amazing with time.
This one just went very smoothly, went quickly and smoothly.
And a lot of common sense, as I like to say, it's tremendous common sense, but it's going to make your country much bigger in terms of trade.
And it's going to make our country much bigger in terms of trade, too.
unidentified
Yes.
Tom Bateman at the BBC.
Thank you, Mr. President.
You mentioned meat and the BBC.
donald j trump
Oh, good, very nice.
They treat me beautifully.
unidentified
You mentioned meat and beef The UK currently doesn't accept American beef because of its own food standards.
Are you calling on the UK to accept all American beef and chicken products?
donald j trump
Well, I think they'll take what they want.
We have plenty of it.
We have every classification you can have.
As you know, Bobby Kennedy is doing a tremendous job, and he's, I think, probably heading toward your system with no chemical, no this, no that.
I think we're heading that way, it seems to be.
But we have that also.
So we're a very big country.
We have a lot of beef.
We're a very big country, so it'll be great.
Yes.
unidentified
Let's talk about American beef really quickly, and it can't be understated.
I'm Brooke Rollins, by the way, how important this deal is and what this means to American farmers and ranchers.
Specific to the beef, this is going to exponentially increase our beef exports.
And to be very clear, American beef is the safest, the best quality, and the crown jewel of American agriculture for the world.
So I think a really important part of this deal is...
It wasn't just the ethanol reducing of tariffs from 19 to zero, which for our row croppers is a huge deal, but also for beef.
And as we move forward, I know our incredible trade team is looking at all the meats, all of the produce, really all of our agriculture exports.
And I don't know if there's an industry that has been treated more unfairly and has suffered more than our agriculture industry.
So we look forward to, I'll be in the UK on Monday, talking to my counterpart over there for the next, really for next week, and I look forward to moving that up.
donald j trump
I think we could say that we have the best in the world, the best tractors, the best everything in the world.
They say that our agriculture is second to none, you understand.
And it'll be a great asset.
People are going to be able to have options, choice, and they'll have more of it.
And that usually means lower prices.
How about we'll do you and then you?
unidentified
I have a question for the Italian TV.
So congratulations for the deal.
We see a big revenues from the chart.
But what's the rest of Europe?
It's a victory day, but other European countries, it seems like they're losing the trade.
donald j trump
We have found that the European Union treated us extremely unfairly, very difficult.
And hurt themselves in doing so.
And they very much want to make a deal.
We'll be dealing with them.
We are dealing with them currently.
So that'll cover pretty much the rest of it.
But this was separate because of Brexit in particular.
You know, this was a separate deal.
It always seems so natural.
I mean, all the media would say that this seemed to be like, why did this happen 25 years?
Why didn't it happen a long time ago?
And it was always amazing to me.
Somebody would say, hey, we got to make a deal.
We have to make a deal.
But this deal just fell into place.
The Prime Minister did a fantastic job.
His representatives are total professionals, and they got along well, and it just seemed to work.
And I think one of the reasons it did is because we blew up the whole system.
If we would have just been dealing with you separately or country by country, we blew up the whole system.
unidentified
It was very unfair to the United States.
donald j trump
I think because of that, this worked out so...
Nicely.
And I'm honored that it was the first deal.
Please.
Well, why don't you go in the back, yes.
unidentified
Oh, thanks, sir.
I'm with the London Times.
I'll say this is a great day for James Bond because now Aston Martins will be available to America.
Even better by extending it to film.
You've talked about a big tariff on films, and we'd like to know if there'd be a relief on British...
Well, we're going to have a discussion on that separately.
donald j trump
And as you know, we're putting tariffs on that particular film, he said, the movie makers, and we're going to be doing some tariffs to get them because a lot of them have left this country.
They all live here.
The money comes from here.
Everything comes from here, but they make them in other countries.
So we're going to do something to bring them back, maybe to a large extent.
James Bond has nothing to worry about that, I can tell you.
And you know, Sean Connery was a friend of mine.
Sean Connery was responsible for my getting zoning in Aberdeen.
unidentified
He said, let the bloody bloke build his golf courses.
donald j trump
I was like four years into the process and it was impossible in Aberdeen.
And he...
I don't know.
He just stood up one day and he said that.
As soon as he said that, I got the approvals in about two minutes.
So he was a great guy, Sean Connery, and a great character.
unidentified
Are you going to Scotland and to the United States?
donald j trump
We have a lot of investment over there.
We have Turnberry, Aberdeen.
We have, as you know, Dunebeg in Ireland, right on the ocean.
They're all on the ocean.
I only have interest if they're on the ocean.
And we have...
We have good investments over there.
Beautiful.
Yes?
unidentified
Mr. President, if the talks go well this weekend between Secretary Bassett and Ambassador Greer with their Chinese counterparts, not preemptively, but if the talks go well, would you then consider lowering the tariff rate on China?
donald j trump
Well, it could be.
I mean, we're going to see.
Right now, you can't get any higher.
It's at 145, so we know it's coming down.
I think we're going to have a very good relationship.
You know, I always got along very well with President Xi.
That relationship was… Greatly disturbed by COVID when COVID came in.
But we get along very well now.
I mean, the relationship was hurt with a lot of people, a lot of countries when COVID came in.
But I think we're going to have a very good relationship.
I expect to have a very good relationship with China, Scott.
I think it's a very friendly meeting.
They look forward to doing it in an elegant way.
China, as you know, has a tremendous...
Trade surplus with us.
And we can't, you know, we just can't have that.
But I think it's going to be very good for both countries.
I would like to see China opened.
You know, one of the big things here is, and nobody would know this, but the UK was largely closed.
It was very much closed to trade.
And now it's opened.
And a lot of the financial reporters are very happy about that because so much I listen to them.
I hope they get countries opened up.
And then you compete on a fair basis, but you can't compete when you're not allowed to go there.
China would be the number one example of that.
You know, it's very close.
We almost had it last time before COVID, and that didn't work out.
But we made a great deal with China.
They had to buy $50 billion worth of our food products, and it was a great deal, doing very well for our farmers.
And then when Biden came in, as usual, nothing happened.
You know, he didn't enforce it.
And it got less, less, less, and ultimately, you know, it destroyed a great deal.
That was a great deal.
But, no, I think that we're going to have a good weekend with China.
I think they have a lot to gain.
I do think they have far more to gain than we do, in a sense, but we're going to have a good, I think we're going to have a very good weekend.
unidentified
Will you speak to Xi after the weekend talks?
donald j trump
Yeah, sure, depending on what Scott says.
We sort of, Scott is doing certain countries.
Howard's doing certain countries.
I mean, I wish I had like 10 more of each every week.
Then we could do them all at one time.
But there will be a time.
We'll do a number of them.
Then there'll be a time, I think I can say this, Scott and Howard, where we're just going to say, because we understand the countries, we understand what they want, where we're just going to make the deal.
In other words, we don't need the country involvement because we've already had it.
And we'll say this particular country, which had big surpluses, let's say we had therefore deficits, that this particular country is going to pay a 25% tariff or 30% or 50% or 10% or whatever it may be.
This was, I think we should explain it now.
One of the things we did here that we'll rarely do is on cars.
We took it from 25 to 10 on Rolls-Royce because Rolls-Royce is not going to be built here.
I wouldn't even ask them to do that.
It's a very special car.
And it's a very limited number, too.
It's not one of the monster car companies that makes millions of cars.
They make a very small number of cars that are super luxury.
And that includes Bentley and Jaguar.
So we have some very special cars.
So in order to help that industry, and that's really handmade stuff.
They've been doing it for a long time in the same location.
And I said, yeah, let's help them out with that one.
But that's different than a car company that comes out and makes millions of cars, which they'll be doing in our country.
We have many, many factories, car plants being built or going to be built very soon.
I think we can say that we'll be close to $10 trillion of investment.
I think we're actually at that number now, if you add up some of the ones we haven't heard about yet.
I mean, we have some going up right now.
They have plants going up and they haven't even spoken to us.
They're doing it because of the tariffs.
And tariffs have always been used against us.
And I never understood.
I used to sit back.
As you know, China paid hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs when I was president.
But until then, China never paid anything.
And, you know, they really did a big number on us from the standpoint of trade.
But we are using tariffs now for our benefit.
We have now close to $10 trillion.
Think of that, $10 trillion.
If you look at the past administration, and we're talking about over, you know, essentially two months, because we could say three, but it took a little while to get the office in perfect shape, right?
It took a little while to get things done.
But once we started, when you think of that, close to $10 trillion of investment, you've had years where the United States wouldn't do that and wouldn't do $1 trillion.
In a year.
Wouldn't do anywhere near $1 trillion.
We did $10 trillion in two months.
So it's amazing what's happening.
We're getting calls from...
And that has to do with chips, has to do with cars.
We used to make chips.
We had Intel, and we used to make chips.
We had a monopoly on chips.
Everything was made here.
And now, over a period of years, because of presidents that didn't know what they were doing, they allowed that business to be stolen from us.
Most of it moved to Taiwan.
And you probably were in the same position, right?
Because you had a lot of the chip-making capacity, but they moved it in.
And we would have said, that's fine.
If you want to move it to Taiwan, that's good.
But if you want to sell back into the United States, we're going to put a 50% or 100% tariff on.
They would have never left.
But we had people sitting here that didn't understand that, and it's too bad.
But now they're coming back, because I'm saying it.
I'm saying it about 40 years too late.
But they're coming back.
As you know, we have the biggest chipmakers in the world spending, in one case, 300 billion.
In one case, 500 billion.
Same as Apple.
And in another case, 200 billion.
And we're going to have a large share, a very, very substantial share of the...
Chip-making market.
unidentified
We said it's going to be a friendly visit, but do you expect that it will just be a formality to break the ice, or are they going to get into substantive negotiations?
donald j trump
I believe so, yes.
I believe it's substantive, yes.
I think people like to say yes.
We're having a meeting to meet.
We're meeting, so what are we going to do?
Talk about meeting again?
So I think it's going to be substantive.
I think we can say that, right Scott?
Very substantive.
Now, China wants to do something.
And look, they have to at this point.
You know, essentially, they made a trillion dollars a year, and now they have absolutely no business because of the tariffs.
They have no business, and they want to have business.
And we want them to have business.
We want them to do well.
We want them to do very well.
So I think it's going to be very substantive.
unidentified
Because business has slowed down, as you mentioned.
donald j trump
In China.
unidentified
But we're seeing as a result, the ports here in the U.S., the traffic has really slowed and now thousands of dock workers and truck drivers are worried about their jobs.
donald j trump
That means we lose less money.
When I see that, that means we lose less money.
Look, China was making over a trillion, 1.1 trillion in my opinion.
You know, different numbers from 500 billion to a trillion or a trillion.
I think it was 1.1 trillion.
And frankly, if we didn't do business, we would have been better off.
Okay, you understand that.
So when you say it's slowed down, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.
But we're going to make it so they can, I'd like to say they can do better, actually, in terms of the bottom line.
We'd like to see China opened up so we can compete in China and, you know, give people something that they've never had, you know, access to something.
That would be great for the world.
It would be great for our businesses.
And I think it would be great for friendship.
I really expect a lot of people think I'm a militant guy.
I'm really not.
I think that...
Trade can bring a greater friendship with China.
It can be something good.
But, you know, one of the things that I know Scott's going to be talking about very high on the list is open up and let our businesses go into China.
Because when you talk about a closed country, that's a really closed country.
And I think it would be great if it was opened up and give people a lot of choice and would create a lot of jobs, a lot of everything.
So I think it would be a great thing for China.
And that's going to be one of the things we'll be discussing, like we discussed with UK.
unidentified
Yeah, please.
donald j trump
What does Britain have to do for you to drop the baseline 10% tariff Well, I think that's set because that has to do with a lot of different things, including past.
You know, there are a lot of past things that we talk about.
This is very inclusive.
We included everything.
And that's pretty well said.
Yeah, please.
james comer
The 10% baseline tariff were made in place.
unidentified
Is that a template for these future trade deals?
No.
Is it going to stay in every case?
donald j trump
No, that's a low number.
They made a good deal.
Many, some will be much higher because they have massive trade surpluses.
And, you know, in many cases, they didn't treat us right.
One thing with the UK, they had, you know, somewhat closed.
Not like a China, as an example.
But they always treated us with great respect.
They treated us with great respect.
The template of 10 is probably the lowest, and therefore they made that deal.
We've had just a very special relationship with them.
I won't do that deal with cars unless somebody shows me that there's another kind of a car that's comparable to a Rolls-Royce, and there aren't too many.
This is a good commercial for Rolls-Royce.
unidentified
I'd like to buy.
Well, the last time this happened, I would be happy to suggest a discount, obviously a very modest discount.
I've had many of them actually.
You know, the last time that happened I ended up buying a Tesla.
Thank you.
Mary Morgan Olligay with Daily Wire.
I had a question about the UK deal today.
I heard there was talk that part of the agreement would depend on whether the UK would respect free speech and freedom of religion.
I know the VP is really interested in that, talked about that earlier this year.
You want to handle that?
howard lutnick
Yeah, that was not part of the conversation.
Our conversation was an economic conversation from start to finish, closed by the president yesterday.
This was a business deal.
Open their markets.
And also protect their workers, grow our markets, and help our workers.
donald j trump
This was about business religion.
You know, business is sort of a semi-religion, but not nearly as important.
I don't want to get myself into it.
unidentified
Mr. President, will you be asking China to help you...
I think so.
donald j trump
I think it's a natural thing to ask.
unidentified
What do you expect?
donald j trump
I don't know.
I think we're making good progress.
Fighting is a little bit different than it was.
I think if we weren't involved, Russia would be going at it to maybe get the whole thing.
Without our involvement, they'd be able to get it because we supplied a lot of different things, foolishly.
But we've been...
Sort of paid back by doing the rare earth deal that I talked about before.
I think that, no, I think that we will be very much involved in trying to get that bloodbath.
It's a bloodbath.
It's a horrible situation.
5,000.
It's really more than that.
But it's 5,000 soldiers on average a week, mostly soldiers, are being killed.
Young, beautiful people.
I mean, they're being killed.
I see the satellite pictures coming back, body parts lying all over the fields, heads and arms.
It's so terrible.
I've never seen anything like it, actually.
And if we can get that stopped, that would be a great accomplishment.
And we're trying very hard.
And I think we're close.
And Mr. Whitcoff is talking constantly back and forth.
He's a real professional.
He's got a great relationship with both countries.
And I think we have a good chance.
And likewise, we're trying to work on Iran to get that solved without having to get into any bombing.
As we say, big bombing.
I don't want to do that.
I want them to be very successful.
unidentified
On the non-market barriers, how did you get the UK to bend and what was the 11th hour deal or ask?
donald j trump
Well, I think it was really just a part of the overall.
I mean, they have so many things that are so good for them.
It's going to be so good for the country.
And that was sort of easy.
We had non-market, I call it non-market or non-monetary trade barriers.
And we had quite a few of them, not nearly as bad as some countries.
Some countries have, you know, they have virtually no tariff, but the rest of it is so brutal, you can't do business with them, right?
So it's a very important question, actually.
No, I think the overall deal just worked out very well from their standpoint.
They were willing to give that in order to get other things, and you might want to speak to that, Mr. Abbas.
unidentified
The point about the deal is that we will continue reducing tariffs and non-tariff barriers.
This is a continuing...
It's a picture.
It's a movie.
It's not a still picture here.
It's a movie.
It continues.
And we're both committed to freeing up trade between our countries.
We're both committed to freeing up investment between our countries.
And the point about this deal is that it provides a very good template and a very good launch pad for what we can continue to do and build on in the future.
And that's what we're both determined to do.
donald j trump
You know, many of the, well, we're gonna say.
unidentified
That's between us.
donald j trump
Many of the, we'll keep it confidential.
How about just one more little thing, right?
Well, it got the deal closed and it was handled very well from the other side too.
But many of these things that we're talking about, we've been talking about this for 25 years.
It's hard to explain when If you weren't sitting behind this beautiful, resolute desk, you just wouldn't get it.
I have been hearing about making a deal with UK for 25 years, and especially around the time of Brexit.
They wanted to make a deal, so they came out of Brexit, and they make a deal, and how natural.
And it just couldn't be done.
unidentified
It couldn't be done.
donald j trump
Good people.
And this is a bigger deal.
This is a much bigger, better, stronger deal for both of us than we ever even contemplated before.
It's a big deal.
unidentified
Virtually everyone said that it would end in failure, it would end in tears, and it's ended in exactly the opposite.
But, Mr. President, can I say that that is due to Secretary Lutnik and Ambassador Greer have been absolutely fantastic.
Yesterday I received a call, a very diplomatic call, that just edged things over the line, and that was from your new ambassador in the United Kingdom.
Who is terrific, man.
Warren Stevens, he's here.
donald j trump
Where is Warren?
unidentified
Right here.
donald j trump
Hello, Warren.
unidentified
He's going to be very popular with the British people.
It's going to be a very successful ambassador.
donald j trump
He's got plenty of cash.
unidentified
Thank you.
you Thank you.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news, and we are jumping to our guest right now after a rowdy President Trump live Oval Office press conference that President Trump said he's wrapping up right now.
Let's freaking go.
Massive, massive breaking news.
Letitia James is now formally being investigated by the FBI for mortgage and insurance fraud.
This is precisely what she tried to put President Trump in prison for in the state of New York.
Joining us right now live, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the House of Representatives, the great Jim Jordan.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you I don't know how you time these things, Mr. Chairman, but it's just perfect.
Seconds before we go live with you, Letitia James, officially being charged by the FBI.
Your take on this, the table is yours.
jim jordan
Well, yeah, you can't make this stuff up.
I mean, she is being charged with the same thing, as you said, that she alleged President Trump did.
And I think that there was like a huge fine that was imposed on the president.
I think it was like $300 million, if I remember correctly.
And it looks like the underlying issue that she's being charged with is what we got from, I think, the Finance Board or this agency.
They said that she falsified documents.
She said, you know, and she did so to get better terms and a better rate on the loan she was applying for.
Here's the bottom line, though, Benny.
You can't say your principal residence is in Virginia if you're the Attorney General of New York.
It just doesn't work that way.
But that's what's alleged that she did.
Not to mention, I think, on another loan application, she said...
Her father was her husband.
Again, I haven't seen the evidence, but there must be something there.
The Justice Department wouldn't be proceeding as they are.
Again, it's the old principle.
The left always accuses us of what they're doing, and that's what it looks like is happening here with the Attorney General from New York.
benny johnson
What should happen to the Attorney General?
I mean, you are in very interesting waters here.
If found guilty, these are federal crimes.
What should happen to Letitia James?
jim jordan
Well, maybe.
How about a fine of $300 million like that was levied against President Trump?
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what the statute actually says.
I don't know if there's really strong evidence here.
There must be, or the good folks at the Justice Department under Attorney General Bondi and Todd Blanche and Cash Patel at the FBI, there must be something here they wouldn't be proceeding as they are.
If it goes to trial and she's found guilty and what that entails and what kind of sentence, we'll have to wait and see.
benny johnson
Mr. Chairman, you're the king of oversight in the House, and there's been quite a bit made over the last 24 hours by your colleague, James Comer, who says, no, there is no Jeffrey Epstein evidence.
It's all been destroyed.
Pam Bondi and Kash Patel out today saying, not only is there evidence, there's 10,000 plus tapes.
That we have in our possession and that we're going through them right now.
Now, you've been searching for these documents.
You've been searching through the federal intel agencies for documents for decades now.
Have you heard anything about this?
Can you give us any update?
jim jordan
No, I don't know.
I leave that totally with, I look.
What I do know is it's night and day between what we had under Garland and Ray, what we now have under Attorney General Bondi and Kash Patel.
We did subpoenas on other issues to Kash six, eight, ten weeks ago.
The response we got, again, night and day.
So I know they're doing a good job.
I leave it up to them how they handle this issue and other issues because I have complete faith and trust in them.
And I've seen what they've done thus far and the attitude and the action that they've had.
So I'll leave it up to them.
Again, when they release this information, that's their call.
benny johnson
So have you subpoenaed any information along these lines?
Is there any interest from congressional committees?
jim jordan
Well, certainly the Oversight Committee, Chairman Comer, with the subcommittee, the select subcommittee that was set up with Anna Paulina Luna, they have an interest and they're actively pursuing all this.
You don't need two committees doing that.
So that's been left to the oversight committee.
And they'll work with the Justice Department.
They'll get the information on the time frame to make sense.
What I do know is when we've asked the Justice Department for answers, for a response, for even subpoenas, we haven't gotten that information.
And when we don't get it right away, they tell us why.
And it's a good reason they're going through.
Like we're asking, as an example, we're asking about the 26 confidential human sources who were there on January 6th.
17 went in restricted space.
Four went in the Capitol.
Two were asked to be there that day by the FBI.
None of them had authorization to enter the Capitol.
So we got all kinds of questions.
They're putting that information together, getting it to us, keeping us informed as they go.
So they're working with us.
And I assume they're doing the same on this issue with Chairman Comer.
benny johnson
That's shocking to me.
Mr. Chairman, so you're telling me that FBI agents were not allowed to be inside of the United States Capitol or to not authorize what we've seen in some of the body cam footage, which I'm sure we've seen less than 1% of all that's available, is that there were undercover agents working for the Metropolitan Police that were encouraging people to commit crimes, encouraging them to go into the Capitol, opening up doors and telling them to go into the Capitol building.
Are we going to get more reporting on what actually happened?
jim jordan
I want to know how much these guys were paid, how long they've been on the payroll.
Were they really the good confidential human sources?
What were they told to do that day?
The two you specifically asked to be there that day who went in the Capitol.
Were they the first to go in the Capitol?
Did they go through the Capitol through a door, through a broken window?
What were they saying?
I want to know all that information because I think that sets a context and a framework for how we evaluate what took place on that day.
And the fact that we didn't have this information a year ago in the last Congress, the Inspector General had this information, waited until after the election before it was made public.
This is based on his report.
So we got a lot of questions we want answers to.
And that's what we're asking.
And the Patel, Kash Patel FBI is working with us.
We know that wouldn't happen with Chris.
It didn't happen with Chris Wray.
He would never answer a question under oath about were there undercover assets there that day?
He wouldn't respond.
So that's the big difference.
And again, we're working with them and we want answers to those questions.
benny johnson
Mr. Chairman, on the screen there was a very curious case where a J6 rioter was handcuffed and then they had his handcuffs taken off of him by the Capitol Police and they fist bumped each other.
And that's always been very curious to us, this footage.
And it was first revealed by Tucker Carlson.
And we can't quite figure out what's going on here.
Can you please expound upon what you think is happening here?
And then can you tie that into the strangeness of the pipe bomber that for the life of us, we still can't figure out why the FBI has zero interest in finding the pipe bomber?
jim jordan
He's on video and you can't figure it out.
He's walking around multiple pictures of the guy who planted the pipe bomb outside the RNC, the DNC.
It's like, all I know is this FBI can't tell us.
Who planted the pipe bombs?
Can't tell us who leaked the Dobbs opinion and can't tell us who put the cocaine at the White House.
But they can do all kinds of...
They can say that the shooting clear back eight years ago on our colleague, Steve Scalise, they can say that was suicide by cop when everyone knows it was domestic terrorism.
He had a freaking piece of paper in his pocket with six Republican members of Congress's name and description on the piece of paper.
But oh, no, no, it was suicide.
It wasn't a domestic terrorist.
And the reason they say that, we all know why.
It's because it doesn't fit the narrative.
The narrative was, oh, you got to be a MAGA hillbilly from flyover country.
That's the domestic terrorism, not some left-wing lunatic who's got a hit list in his pocket.
So this is the FBI that can't get us the answers we want.
I mean, not Kash Patel.
They're working on getting us those answers.
But the previous FBI just couldn't do those things because they were too busy saying pro-life Catholics were extremists and moms and dads at school board meetings need to be investigated.
benny johnson
Mr. Chairman, I know we're up against a hard out, but since you brought it up, I have to go here.
When you're talking about left-wing domestic extremism, assassins, and people that want to kill people, want to kill Republican politicians, of course, the archetype there is going to be Matthew Thomas Crooks, who donated through the ActBlue platform, and a platform that I know that you're investigating right now, who donated to Joe Biden to far left-wing causes, who then got eight shots off on the president, hitting the president in the head.
And we know nothing about Matthew Thomas Crooks.
Now, Matthew Thomas Crooks was on camera using a phone, calling somebody on FaceTime right before he shot President Trump.
He trained at a rifle range that was used by Homeland Security.
We've never seen the inside of his home.
We've never seen the inside of his cellular device, the contents of his computer, his searches, his chats.
We've seen nothing from the feds.
Are you interested in finding out what actually happened there?
Will we ever know anything, Mr. Chairman?
jim jordan
Yeah, I think not only are you and I interested, I think the American people are interested, that they'd like to know how this happens, who this individual was.
They're just sort of basic questions that I think the taxpayers, the citizens of this great country, when there was an assassination attempt on the current commander-in-chief, who was the leading candidate back when this took place last summer, I think those are questions that deserve to have answers to.
And we know if it was reversed.
The press would be going so hard and the mainstream press would be going so hard that we probably would have more answers.
Of course, the mainstream press doesn't want to do it because it involved President Trump.
So yeah, let's get those answers.
And as soon as we came to that issue and a host of others, and frankly, ActBlue as well.
I mean, this organization, seven people have left.
We're working to have interviews of those seven individuals who left ActBlue because we think they had no regard.
For fraud prevention in their fundraising apparatus.
And this organization was raising unbelievable $2 and $3 million a quarter Democrat candidates for Congress were raising that no one had ever heard of before.
Like the brand new candidates raising that kind of money?
That just doesn't happen.
And we have some correspondence in our investigation thus far that shows they had little regard for, very little regard for proper fraud control measures.
They were just like, bring in the money.
So we do want to talk with those individuals.
benny johnson
So you're going to talk with those individuals.
Are there going to be charges?
Because right now, ActBlue, and we have the article right here, your work here, top House committees accuse Democrat fundraising giant facilitating bad actors bombshell DOJ letter.
The letters are great, Mr. Chairman, but, you know, are we ever going to see people in handcuffs for this?
It's clearly what they charge, like Paul Manafort for, and they went after Trump's first, you know, Trump's first term.
People who accepted a cocktail at a bar were charged with fraudulent acceptance of campaign dollars and money.
What's going to happen next?
jim jordan
Well, so we sort of come full circle because, remember, we did all kinds of letters and stuff to these prosecutors who were going after President Trump, the whole lawfare and everything else.
And now what we find out is, oh, Leticia James is being investigated.
So, again, we can't charge anyone.
We can do investigations.
We can't.
Personally investigate persons like you see.
Only the Justice Department can do that.
Only the executive branch.
And we're seeing that now from Attorney General Bondi's team when they've opened this investigation into Letitia James.
So that's how it operates.
What we do under the Constitution is oversight.
We dig in there.
We find out what's going on.
And then it's up to if there needs to be some kind of further investigation or prosecution, that's up to the Justice Department.
benny johnson
All right.
In closing here, what should happen if ActBlue is found to be, as we have elucidated many times in this program, facilitating fraud from dark money sources, presumably international sources, that are trying to influence American elections?
What should happen?
jim jordan
Well, again, if there's criminal activity, if there's violation of our election law, campaign finance law, then, of course, the Justice Department will look at that, evaluate that, and decide if they move forward.
Our job is oversight, getting the facts out there.
And the committees that are working on this are ways and means oversight and, of course, judiciary.
Or not ways and means, excuse me, the House administration, because they have jurisdiction over election law.
So House administration, oversight, and us are looking into this, and we're going to continue to do so.
benny johnson
All right.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Bo Nickel had a rough go at the UFC.
I'm not sure if you saw that.
jim jordan
The knee to the head was tough, wasn't it?
Man.
benny johnson
It's obligated in our contract with Chairman Jordan that we must ask a wrestling question.
This is us fulfilling our contract.
We have no contract.
Did you see that?
jim jordan
I haven't been able to watch the full fight yet because on Saturday I didn't watch it.
I've seen just the highlights where he went down.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
I do want to watch it.
I tried to find it the other day, but I haven't.
I will do that.
benny johnson
All right.
Wyatt Henderson now has his photo in the White House, which I think is pretty neat.
jim jordan
I saw that.
That's funny you said.
I saw that the other day.
I saw another athlete who was getting to pick another wrestler.
I didn't see Wyatt, but I saw another athlete from the NCAA tournament who was a picture with the president.
unidentified
There we go.
benny johnson
All right.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
unidentified
Godspeed.
benny johnson
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you you Oh, Mike.
benny johnson
Mike, Mike, Mike.
It just so happens that minutes before you've joined our program here, Letitia James officially announced, investigated by the FBI.
They've opened an investigation into what we lovingly call Big Tish on this program.
Mike, I just want to say that we're thankful for you because you announced this audience that this would be happening maybe four months ago.
And you remain the most right guest we've had on this program consistently.
mike davis
Thank you.
Thank you, Ben.
I would say to Big Tish, lawyer up because nobody's above the law.
And there's pretty damning evidence that you lied on your mortgage application for your Virginia home.
You said that was your primary residence.
Which is clearly a lie because you are the New York Attorney General.
And as the New York Attorney General, you are required by New York statute to have your primary residence in the state of New York.
So you have a lot of explaining to do in the Eastern District of Virginia when they indict your fat ass and they drag you down and make you sit through a federal trial.
This couldn't be better for me because, remember, this is the same Big Tish who went after President Trump and tried to bankrupt him for civil fraud, for the non-fraud of President Trump paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks on time, in full, as agreed, with interest.
And Big Tish went to that nut job New York judge, Arthur Ingeron.
And tried to say that Trump somehow duped these sophisticated Wall Street banks, even though the contracts require they do their own due diligence, so they couldn't be duped.
But their theory was that Mar-a-Lago was only worth $18 million because the tax assessor said it was worth $18 million.
And as we've said for a long time on this show, Ben, A tennis court at Mar-a-Lago is worth more than $18.
This is the most prime real estate in the world.
It's in Palm Beach, Florida.
It's 20 acres of land.
It's the most unique property in the world.
It's the only property, I believe, that touches both the Atlantic Ocean and the Intracoastal Waterway.
It's worth at least $500 million and probably north of a billion dollars.
But Big Tish has said that nobody's above the law.
She campaigned on getting Trump, and she's going to get hoisted by her own petard here.
And that's a very strong petard if it can lift her fat ass.
benny johnson
Mike, Big Tish has responded to you, actually.
It seems like your appearances on this program, Mike, have really gotten under her skin, which is quite an accomplishment.
We have a brand new video out from this morning, Big Tish.
She doesn't seem to be doing well.
I just want to play you a few seconds of it.
Let's go.
unidentified
And you want me to sit in my seat and stand idly by and allow this craziness to happen?
You can come after me if you want.
But you elected me to stand up.
You elected me to use the law.
You elected me to go to court.
You elected me to continue to challenge this.
benny johnson
All right.
All right.
Enough.
Mike, your retort here, again, she doesn't seem of sound mind.
It seems like she's breaking.
My assessment of this, and we will watch a lot of clips on this program, is that she's not doing well.
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, I would say that she's either not doing well, or it could be this very wealthy and sophisticated woman is going ghetto to play to the jury pool, right?
This is what they do.
They go to their black churches and pretend like they're the victim of persecution.
This is all racism.
I would say that it...
I'm very happy that President Trump is going to reopen Alcatraz because we could put big tish on Alcatraz and maybe we could plant hay and just let her go graze around Alcatraz.
And so it would be a perfect place for her.
She has a thick skin like an elephant.
And I'm very excited for justice to come here.
I'm very excited that the FBI has opened this probe.
Thank you to Kash Patel and Dan Bongino if they had anything to do with this.
But justice is coming because think about if justice did not come here.
If you have this very wealthy woman lying on a mortgage application and getting away with it, that seems like that wouldn't be a very effective deterrent for a lot of people who are applying for these home loans and lying on their applications.
And so nobody's above the law and Big Tish needs to be made an example out of and she needs to go to jail.
Like, he tried to ruin President Trump, and man, it's just boomerang back on him.
benny johnson
Mike, I want to very quickly stop here at a post that you made this morning about John Roberts.
Speaking of a boomerang, John Roberts was appointed chief justice by a Republican administration.
Many of us at the time, being dreamy-eyed, I think nascent observers, thought that this would cement a conservative court.
But it has done the exact opposite.
And you write a message here to Judge Roberts saying that when a federal judge illegally opens his courtroom on a Saturday exposing an ongoing military operation endangers American allied lives, it's impeachable.
Impeachment is a political question.
Zip it.
So this is, I assume, in contrast with what John Roberts said this past weekend, which is that it's his job to check the excesses of President Trump.
He said that at a forum.
Now we've learned a lot about John Roberts and his connections with Norm Eisen, who's plowed so much money into putting Trump in prison, and we've seen some stunning rulings out of the Supreme Court.
Your message to John Roberts, perhaps you could just pick it up from this tweet.
mike davis
I would say this to the Chief Justice John Roberts.
I know him personally.
I like him.
I clerked for Justice Gorsuch.
John Roberts is a perfectly good man.
When he tries to take off his judicial robe and climb into the political arena and throw political punches, he should expect powerful political counterpunches from the Article III project and elsewhere.
I would also say this to John Roberts.
He thinks he's a masterful politician.
Number one, that's not his job.
And number two, if it were his job, he is terrible at it.
He is a terrible...
Judges are terrible politicians.
They don't like to hear that because they think that they're good at everything because they have a bunch of sycophants around them all day with law clerks and secretaries and particularly at the Supreme Court.
I've seen it myself.
But these judges are terrible politicians.
They wear robes, not capes.
Their job is to decide cases and controversies of the parties properly before them with redressable claims.
That's their Article III power.
It's not to wear capes.
They're not narcissistic superheroes in capes who think it's their job to fly around and right every perceived wrong.
They're mere mortals.
They're mere judges.
They have a crucial job, but it's a very limited job under our constitutional order.
And their job is certainly not to hold political rallies in Buffalo and tell their 600-person political rally that they're the political counterweight to the president.
benny johnson
Mike, I can't believe this, and this has never happened with a guest, but you are on live during two massive breaking news moments that directly cross paths with what you do professionally at the Article 3 Project.
He will be dropping that nomination.
That's a nomination that we were going to spend the entire show fighting for.
We know Ed Martin, and we think that he's done an incredible job even in his short tenure as the federal D.C. prosecutor for the District of Columbia.
Your thoughts on this?
Trump saying that he wants to bring him potentially into...
mike davis
I have many discussions with the president, and I'm not going to talk about those discussions on your show.
Ed Martin is a very good man.
He is a close friend of mine.
We fought very hard at the Article III project to get him confirmed.
We have Republicans in the Senate who were not going to vote for him, right?
And I think that They were very dug in about this.
I think that we have some weak sisters among our Senate Republicans, and they're not willing to fight like Democrats are.
Remember, Rachel Rawlings was the Boston U.S. Attorney for Biden.
Extremely controversial, much more controversial than Ed Martin.
And Democrats confirmed her with Vice President Kamala Harris' tie-breaking.
Democrats are just weak, right?
They are the string orchestra on the Titanic.
They want to look majestic while the Titanic is going down.
And I think the Trump wing of the Republican Party are willing to throw people off the lifeboats.
And so that's the difference between the Bush 43 wing, the country club wing of the Republican Party, and the MAGA wing.
And I hope the country club wing understands.
That's when these Marxists get through the MAGA wing, they're going to come for the country club wing next.
There aren't going to be political survivors after the Marxist revolution.
So, you know, they're too stupid and naive to understand that they're being played.
But they want to be the acceptable Republicans until there are no longer other Republicans from the Marxists to politically murder.
benny johnson
Yeah, incredible.
Appease the alligator.
Well, we have quite a fighter coming on, right?
Josh Hawley, Senator Hawley, is up next, and so we're going to ask him about this.
Mike, we appreciate you responding to this breaking news that's breaking just this second and disappointing to us, but let's see if we can stiffen some spines.
Thank you, Mike, for your work at Article 3 Project.
Everyone follow Mike.
He's got 400,000 subscribers now on X. You all know Mike Davis.
He's an absolute monster and a bare-knuckle brawler.
Well, you know what?
If he were in charge, it wouldn't be Ed Martin.
It'd be him as the viceroy.
It'd be Mike as the viceroy with a frilly collar and a wax mustache.
So we'll keep pushing for that.
Our audience here stands with you, Mike.
Godspeed.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you Joining us now on the program for the first time...
We're honored to have him is the great senator from Missouri, Senator Josh Hawley.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you Senator, sometimes it just works out this way.
We played your clip yesterday from War Room saying that Ed Martin will be our next district attorney.
And seconds ago, President Trump pulled his nomination in part because he could not get the support inside of the Senate.
And so the floor is yours, Senator.
Your reaction to this news?
josh hawley
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on.
It's a tremendous pleasure to be on the show.
Obviously, I hope I wasn't the kiss of death, Benny.
I mean, when I predicted that Ed would definitely get confirmed, I mean, obviously I was wrong.
This is ultimately the president's choice.
And listen, I defer to the president.
I mean, the president gets to nominate, and if he wants to nominate Ed for something else, then that's fine.
I mean, that's totally fine.
I'll just say this.
I think it's a shame because Martin is in office right now, and he's doing a great job.
I mean, the president said this yesterday, I believe.
Crime is down in the District of Columbia by 25 percent.
That's a huge number.
And it is much needed because the district is one of the most unsafe places on Earth.
And President Trump has been clear about this.
The district needs to be the most safe city in America.
I mean, we need to be able to come here.
Our families need to be able to come.
Visitors from around the country that this is the people's city.
We need a U.S. attorney in this city.
Who's going to make it safe?
Who's going to protect our families?
Who's going to clean it up?
And particularly ahead of the 250 celebration next year, I think it's really important.
I think Ed Martin would have done all of that.
I think he is doing it.
I mean, he is the acting U.S. attorney right now.
But again, I defer to the president.
And if he wants to appoint Ed to something else, then I'll certainly support that.
benny johnson
So we had one of your colleagues on yesterday, Senator Mullen, who spoke very, very kindly of you and your work and said that, you know, Josh Hawley is a man who really, like, locks it in, and I trust Josh.
But he cautioned us yesterday and went viral for doing so, saying that the defectors in the Senate wing of the Republican Party for Ed Martin, that they are defecting because they are still emotional, fragile.
And feline over January 6th and Ed Martin's commentary on January 6th.
Can you speak to that?
That seems like such a humiliating reality.
josh hawley
Well, listen, I think that you do have a lot of senators who took issue with a lot of the things that Ed Martin has said, and I think particularly about January 6th.
I just have to say, I mean...
I've urged all those people.
I mean, I served with these people.
I sit on the Judiciary Committee with them.
What I said to every single one of my colleagues was, sit down with Ed Martin.
First of all, look at his record.
Look at what he actually did.
He defended J6 defendants.
You bet they deserve to be defended.
You bet they deserve to have the rule of law applied fairly and equally to them.
And we all know that did not happen.
In the overwhelming majority of cases, it was so extreme, the U.S. Supreme Court had to step in, and rightly so in these cases.
So I don't think we should fault Ed Martin.
For defending J6 defendants, I'm glad he was willing to do it.
Almost nobody else was, which is a sad, sad commentary on our legal system and on the defense bar.
Let's just be honest.
The other thing is, though, look at Ed's record.
I mean, look at his record in public office.
He's been chief of staff to a governor.
Look at his record as a prosecutor.
He has been a tough prosecutor, not in some distant past, right this minute.
So, you know, I'm disappointed.
I'm disappointed that my colleagues wouldn't at least let him come up for a vote.
I mean, this is what I said.
We need to have a vote.
Let's get people on the record.
And I think the fact we're not even going to vote on him, let's be honest, this is why the president pulled back on him, is because I don't think the Senate was even going to give him a vote.
And I just think that's a dangerous precedent, Benny.
I mean, if that's going to be how we start treating the president's nominees, and I want to emphasize, Ed Martin was the president's nominee.
No senator put him forward.
He was Donald Trump's choice for the U.S. District of Columbia.
And I'd say that it signals to me, There may be some tough sledding ahead in the Senate for more Donald Trump picks, and I don't think that's really a good thing.
benny johnson
Yeah, no, clearly not.
So there's sledding that was happening inside of the U.S. Senate that's made an enormous amount of news.
Sometimes it just works out this way, Senator.
I call it Midwestern luck.
I'm from Iowa.
You're from Missouri.
Sometimes just being Iowa nice gets you Midwestern luck.
There's massive news breaking out of the Senate.
I'm not sure if you were in the room with this, but it's been a news cycle right now about the FBI, the DOJ, and the handling of the Epstein videos and Epstein lists and Epstein information.
Cash Patel saying that he has all of these videos and all this information, and he's going to release it to the public.
Have you heard anything about this?
What kind of consequences?
Would this potentially have for the deep state?
Do you have any insights into what the operation was actually there?
There's such a ravenous interest because I think the American people know they've been lied to here.
josh hawley
Well, they've been lied to over and over by the FBI, particularly under the leadership of Joe Biden and Christopher Wray.
And that's why Kash Patel is so important.
Number one, such a breath of fresh air.
Number two, and is doing a great job.
Number three, as to Epstein, I don't know anything that hasn't already been reported, but I welcome.
The director's statements that he is going to release everything.
It's just like with the JFK files, the MLK files.
All of this stuff should be public.
We have a government, let's be honest, that has lied to us on subject after subject for years, decades now.
And this is why President Trump coming into office and saying, I'm going to declassify all this stuff.
It should have been declassified long ago, all of it, including all the Epstein stuff.
But we ought to see every last piece of it, all of Epstein, his client list.
His flight logs, any videos that they have.
I mean, we should see all of it.
So I think Patel is on the right track.
I hope he'll do it sooner rather than later.
I hope they won't do it piecemeal.
He didn't ask my opinion, but my view on it is, is that get it all out there.
Dump it all out there into the public.
Let everybody see it.
I think the people have a right to know.
benny johnson
If this ends up firing back on the Clinton family, you know, we've already seen that his name's 27, correction, times on the manifest.
For Jeffrey Epstein, no explanation of what those flights were about and where they were going.
You know, could we presumably see criminal charges brought against some of the higher levels of our federal government?
josh hawley
Could.
I mean, it all depends on the statute of limitations of the particular crimes.
But I'll just say 25 appearances on the flight logs.
I think we can probably guess what that's about.
I haven't heard a different explanation, Benny.
I mean, that's really the telling thing, is it not?
If there were another explanation, don't you think that...
Bill and Hillary would be rushing forward to say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is the real story.
They're not doing that.
In fact, they're fighting tooth and nail to keep this all private.
Lots of people are fighting tooth and nail to keep this all private, which is why it needs to all be public.
It should all be out there in public.
It should have been public a long time ago.
And again, I just want to encourage the director, Kash Patel, go forward, charge ahead.
Don't be waylaid here.
Don't fall back.
I mean, push ahead here and get this all out in the public domain.
benny johnson
What we know the most, Senator, and this is the most important response to your answer there, is that Bill Clinton is a morally upstanding guy who would never, ever threaten his marriage or would never, ever do anything that is untoward with young women.
I think that's what we...
Understand, right?
About the nature of Bill Clinton.
josh hawley
Oh, sure.
Right, because the record bears that out, Benny.
Of course he wouldn't.
He'd never violate his oath, by the way, either.
He'd never suborn perjury.
He'd never interfere in a federal investigation.
He'd never try to bribe a witness.
No, he'd never do any of those things.
Of course, he did all of those things.
He is a terrible person.
And I don't say that with any glee.
I don't mean to be judgmental.
It's just a fact.
I mean, you look at what he did in office.
You look at what he's done since then.
I mean, this guy should not be in public life.
And we ought to have...
The public deserves...
To know all of it.
benny johnson
All of it.
Senator, you are on Homeland Security and Government Affairs.
And since it's your first time on the program...
I'm just going to spin the wheel and go to some of the favorite topics and questions of this program because our audience are big fans of yours.
And whenever we post a clip of yours, it goes viral.
And you're just one of those guys who's young enough to seek very clearly through the mess and the swamp and to tell us honestly.
And we've really appreciated that about you and your media hits.
So here we go.
Homeland Security and Government Affairs.
Homeland Security oversees the Secret Service.
And the Secret Service has allowed multiple assassins to get very close to President Trump, one of them to take off a big chunk of his ear, another one to potentially try and buy an RPG or a stinger missile from Ukraine, arms that we provided to Ukraine, in order to shoot down Trump's plane.
We know that through the federal documents and the court cases that are being litigated right now.
Will we ever...
Understand fully what was going on in the 2024 election because it seems to be quite a black box right now.
Who was Matthew Thomas Crooks?
Was he working alone?
How was Ryan Ralph able to nearly get munitions from Ukraine, military arms, to kill Donald Trump?
He came within 100 feet of getting Donald Trump with a Russian-made rifle.
This seems to be massive.
Questions that were this close to bringing us to the point of civil war, right?
Have there been any fixes?
Can you maybe give us a briefing on what's going on when it comes to the Trump assassination?
josh hawley
Well, absolutely.
Here's what I can tell you.
You're right to call it a black box.
And this is when you talk about the need for reform at the FBI and reform at the Secret Service.
This is Exhibit A. And I can speak to this personally because as a member of the Homeland Security Committee, I went myself to Butler shortly after the assassination attempt.
I went to go gather facts, to go see it myself on the ground.
Do you know I was only there for half an hour before FBI agents came onto the property and ordered me to leave?
And I said, wait a minute.
I'm a member of the United States Senate.
I'm on the Homeland Security Committee.
I have an oversight responsibility.
I want to know what the heck happened.
We're conducting an investigation.
I'm here to do that.
I brought a team with me.
The FBI actually tried to kick me off the property.
Why?
Because they didn't want anybody seeing firsthand information, gathering information.
And this is just days after the assassination attempt, Benny.
Even then, they wanted to control 100% the information flow.
What happened in the days and weeks since?
The FBI refused to cooperate with our investigation on the Homeland Security Committee.
The Secret Service refused to cooperate.
Between the two of them, those agencies interviewed internally, they told us, over 100 people.
And they had thousands of documents.
They refused to turn over almost all of it to Congress, any of it, even to Democrats.
Democrat, Republican, they wouldn't give it to anybody.
Now, what does that tell you?
It's back to that same old pattern.
They don't want the public to know the truth.
We need to get the truth.
And this is something else I hope Cash Patel can do.
I hope the new Secret Service director can do.
A, we need to clean house at both of those agencies.
B, we've got to get the truth on what was going on.
I had so many whistleblowers come forward to me, Benny.
I bet over a dozen.
In fact, we issued an entire whistleblower report with nothing but whistleblowers who had come to me, into my office personally.
And told us all of this information about what was being withheld.
Told us that when it came to the second attempt, for instance, the FBI and the Secret Service didn't follow any of their protocols on sweeping the perimeter.
I mean, what is going on at these agencies?
And I have to say, the stonewalling really has still continued.
There needs to be serious answers.
I don't think we're close to knowing yet.
Because I think the stonewalling has continued even to today.
And that has got to stop.
benny johnson
Can you elucidate for us just anything without revealing what was going on with the whistleblowers?
And I know we're up against a hard out here, but we constantly play that the FBI was power washing the rooftop in Butler.
That the assassin, this guy was cremated without the knowledge of his family, without the knowledge of the coroner in the county.
It seems so strange to us, and it harkens back to other cleanup jobs.
That seemed so hastily like the JFK assassination.
And we have the image right here.
This was less than 24 hours after President Trump was hit in the head with a bullet, the FBI power washing the rooftop.
Just in closing here, Senator, can you please elucidate for us maybe a little bit about what your whistleblowers have told you?
josh hawley
Well, what whistleblowers told me consistently is, number one, the feds never wanted to take responsibility for the major security lapses.
Some of our earliest whistleblowers were local and state cops, police, law enforcement agents who came forward to us and said, wait a minute, they're trying to blame this on us.
The truth is, the feds didn't establish universal comms during the day, so local law enforcement couldn't communicate with them.
The feds didn't set up their security perimeter correctly.
We later had Secret Service agents come forward and verify that to me and say the security perimeter was supposed to be farther out.
They were supposed to be using a particular kind of team that they didn't do that day.
And what really gets me, Benny, is Secret Service lied about this stuff.
What it tells me is that the very least, the very least, Secret Service and FBI from day one did not want to take responsibility.
They did not want to be blamed.
They did not want to have any of their actions reviewed.
And so they first tried to blame it on the locals.
Then they tried to sweep it under the rug.
Then they tried to stonewall.
And I don't think we have yet to get the solid answers that we need.
And I just say again, this is a great opportunity for this new administration.
Work with Congress.
Come forward to the American public.
Give us the information.
Tell us what was really going on.
benny johnson
Yes.
All right.
Well, Senator, that's just wild.
Sometimes there's just, sometimes just get a hat trick here.
Apparently we have a new pope as well.
So I know that I don't believe you're Catholic.
I believe you're Presbyterian, if that's correct here.
But wow, we have a new pope as well.
So I guess we'll see.
I'm not sure if it's Donald Trump or not.
We haven't heard.
Everybody follow the great senator.
You already know Senator Josh Hawley.
2.2 million patriots follow him.
Make sure that we're fighting with the people who are fighting for us.
Godspeed, Senator.
josh hawley
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
benny johnson
We have, we actually have a, we actually have a, Danny de Urbina, who's a producer of ours, is in St. Peter's Square.
So we're going to try and effort that.
Why not?
Danny's there right now.
Let's see if we can't figure that out.
Classic Danny.
That's classic Danny.
Danny really does do the meme.
We have a new pope.
All right, here we go.
We have a new pope.
We have the footage right here of the white smoke, the famous white smoke.
It wasn't orange.
It would be orange if it was President Trump.
Here's the white smoke with the seagulls.
And that means that a pope has been chosen, and quite quickly.
I mean, am I wrong here?
I'm not an expert on this, but quite swiftly.
And this is the—can we listen in?
Do we have the cheers?
Do we have any sound on this?
unidentified
There we go.
There you go.
I'm going to put the clouds roll.
He's got a good one.
benny johnson
Goodness, you know, some days when you're just glad you're live and glad we're live early.
We're live an hour early.
We needed it today, Killer Kline.
All right, all right.
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a live stream that we can pop up.
Okay, so Danny, are you not back?
Are you in St. Peter's Square or not?
Danny's in there.
He might be able to get us.
Okay, Danny isn't there anymore.
He was just there.
All right, got it.
Danny's seeing if he can't get us a priest.
Here's a live footage of St. Peter's Square, which is really a beautiful shot right now.
Let's go ahead and look.
We don't have any...
You know, as I've said before, I was not raised in a Catholic denomination.
I have deep respect for the original church and the ancient Christian iconography.
I was not a fan of Pope Francis, and I believe that he was very woke on many things.
And used for political purposes, that seat of St. Peter.
And that's something that all Christians should disavow.
This is not a seat about climate change or unlimited refugees.
He was a Jesuit, which is a very left-wing tautology.
And so our hope is that we get a pope that upholds the moral Western Christian traditions that have allowed for the flourishing of the name of Christ.
And the flourishing of Christianity throughout the world.
And that is a good thing.
And that is something that obviously built the Western world and all of Western civilization.
And so it is still a very powerful seat and it represents 2 billion Catholics around the globe.
So, ladies and gentlemen, this again is live shot.
That is why I believe that it is important.
And I think that I am correct in saying that this is the Longest-serving office in human history, right?
This is the longest-serving contiguous office in human history and has profound effects.
A perfect example of having a great right-wing pope, what you would call right-wing, what I would just call like reading the Bible, would be Pope John Paul, who ushered in the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism, and that's the power of the pope.
Pope John Paul did this by allying with Christians and the Western world and the freedoms and liberties of it and then led to the collapse of the atheistic and demonic regimes of communism.
And so here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, Julie Kelly was supposed to be on the show but is not right now, my producers are telling me.
So we're going to effort Julie Kelly.
Right now we have no news about the Pope.
I guess it's very interesting, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's do this new Pope clip and let us grab some new information.
Oh, is Kevin there?
See if we can grab Kevin.
Is Kevin there in the square?
Maybe we can get him on the show.
Why not?
Let's let her rip, right?
Okay.
So here, ladies and gentlemen, is the breaking news.
About the new pope.
Do we have a name yet?
I don't think so.
Both my producers, Danny and ALX, are devout Catholics.
And I believe that Jack Posobiec and Kevin Posobiec are there in St. Peter's Square.
Maybe we can get them on the stream.
Maybe.
These are earth-changing events.
And they're important, obviously.
They will come out on the balcony and they will announce the new pope.
All right.
Well.
It's going to take us a second.
Hey, producers, you're going to have to tell me what we want to do here.
All right?
Let me know.
What do we want to do here?
Do we want to just keep rolling with it?
Okay, so now we know that Ashley, who runs so many of our social channels, that she is Catholic as well, and that Jack is Catholic.
Okay, so I'm...
Apparently, I'm the only heretic.
Okay, got it.
Okay, great.
I'm Martin Luther at this company.
At this company, I am Martin Luther.
And the entire rest of the company...
unidentified
The entire rest...
benny johnson
That's it.
I'm King Henry and the Church of England.
And the entire rest...
All of the rest of Europe is Catholic.
That's fine.
All right.
We'll fight.
I love this.
Here we go.
Here's how Fox covered the breaking news.
unidentified
Let's go.
kayleigh mcenany
We have white smoke coming out of the Sistine Chapel.
This means that we have a new pope.
It is the third vote that's been taken.
This is quite frequent timing.
This is day two of the new pope.
We've been waiting for this vote, white smoke.
benny johnson
Okay, well, that's the clip that we have.
Okay, so I'm waiting on two things.
We have plenty to talk about.
I love this in the chat roll.
Why not?
Why don't I let the chat roll?
Here's the live shot of St. Peter's Square.
There's no sound here.
But you can see here, that's where they'll come out and they'll announce a new pope.
So if the entire company is Catholic, then why don't y 'all get me some names?
Who's going to be the next pope?
What do the betting markets say?
What's going on?
Are we going to see the announcement of the new pope?
Again, I've explained why this matters, obviously, to me, to Christendom, to Western civilization.
It is important.
And let's go.
Lock and load.
So what's going to happen?
I think it'd be neat to hear the announcement of the new pope.
I think that'd be cool.
I mean, it'd be neat to see it live.
It's obviously a very important thing.
All right.
Okay, let's go.
Here are the odds.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
Here's the odds.
Polymarket.
Okay.
Pietro Perolin.
unidentified
Pietro Perolin.
benny johnson
Luis is the one who's shot up to 70% on Polymarket.
So Polymarket typically knows these things.
And the other, you know, it's the smart money, right?
It's the Polymarket.
It's...
Been right about the Canadian election, about the presidential election here in our country.
The betting markets here with Polymarket were correct.
If you had locked in with our favorite pollsters at Rasmussen, and if you had locked in with the polls on Polymarket, then you would have maybe made a fortune, okay, if that's your thing.
But you definitely would have known ahead of time.
Alex, grab me that.
Prove that out.
Grab me the screenshots.
These guys had Trump up winning the election in 2024, and they had Carney winning in a landslide, sadly, in Canada.
It just is what it is.
So here's what they're saying right now.
They're saying that it's going to be Pietro Perolin.
So what do we know about him?
Let's go.
What do we know about him?
This is the odds on the money here, all right?
There's a guy named Pizza Bala.
Which I think is my favorite Italian name ever.
And not to be disrespectful here, or exceedingly racist against Italians, but I want this guy to be Pope just because I love a guy named Pete Zabala.
That's it.
That's it.
That's what I want.
Alright?
But we'll see.
But we'll see.
Okay.
So what do we know about him?
Let's go.
What do we know about the odds on next Pope?
He is an Italian Catholic who served as the Vatican Secretary of State since 2013.
Oh, wow.
So he's, like, very political within the Vatican already.
He's a member of the Council of Cardinals since 2014, the same year he was made a cardinal, and the most senior cardinal bishop under the age of 80. He presided over the 2025 Papal Conclave.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, very diplomatic.
unidentified
Alright.
benny johnson
So, just proving this out, proving this correct, here's what Polymarket had for Carney and what Polymarket had for Trump, right?
So, there you go.
So, is it going to be, is it going to be, we also have some Orthodox on our staff.
They're hoping that there will be an Orthodox takeover of the Catholic Church.
I don't know what those odds are, but here we go.
I'm still rooting for Pizzaballa for no other reason than I need a guy named Pizzaballa, an Italian named Pizzaballa to be Pope.
We have a guy named Trump as president.
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is quite the procession happening right now inside of the Vatican.
Let's watch.
And listen.
Yeah, let's listen.
unidentified
When it's special.
It's special too because, you know, these last two, more than two weeks, we've had the Swiss Guards present for certain things, but now they have a Pope once again that they are protecting.
That is their role, that is their mission, right?
To be where the Pope is and to protect him.
And so this is extra special because now we see them coming out again to the piazza because we will have a Pope.
You know, I live with 21 other priests and residents, so all of us work in the Korea.
And we've been sharing at breakfast how hard it is in the morning when we're celebrating Mass, and there's always a prayer in the canon of the Mass for the Pope.
And, you know, we now have to skip over that.
And it's like your tongue doesn't stop, you know.
So now we can pray once again for the Pope as well.
Exactly.
Our predecessor, Popes, can pray for us as well.
That I'm sure of.
We hope to pray for you.
So again, the bands here will be coming in and playing the anthems here this morning.
The new Pope appears, just like the Urbia Torbia on an Easter, Christmas, or a salive occasion.
That's right.
So this is to be expected at this time, and we'll probably have another at least a half hour before the earliest.
The new Pope will appear from the Central Valley.
But also, during this time, too, there will be prayer, too.
And certainly, the new Pope will be praying, but also the Cardinals will be praying with him.
And we will all be praying as well.
Everyone in the square will be praying around the world.
All of you watching and listening from home, we join in prayer as well for this moment.
You can be sure even the new Pope hears all this in the background.
It's a lot of strong sound that's coming up there and then propagating up into the areas there in the buildings and just outside the loggia there as well.
You can hear that.
I know that from experience.
The sounds of the streets, the sounds of the square.
And it must be a sign of...
I mean, they must feel...
Encouraged, hearing the cheers, the music, because this is a big moment for anyone.
And then to come out in the loggia and see thousands upon thousands of people.
I mean, if public speaking is not your thing, that would be very intimidating.
And so to hear the support of the band and the people clapping and cheering must be extra special for that person.
Absolutely.
A huge encouragement as well, apart from the weight of the office and accepting and realizing the challenge, the immense challenge.
That we'll be taking on and responsibility, but encouraged by what is the fanfare we're seeing and hearing in St. Peter's Square right now.
And as I mentioned, the crowds are filtering in.
Go through their security check before that, but the square is slowly filling up there with people coming in last minute to be here.
Of course, they're lucky they have a little time because we have about this almost one hour before the new Pope will appear.
And so we see in the blue there the gendarmes, the Vatican gendarmes and the band they have there, and then of course the Swiss Guard uniform there in position.
Well, and just again behind the scenes, looking back behind all the process that's happening, I think it's so interesting to think we're seeing the crowds waiting, cheering, trying to keep spirits up while they wait the hour or more until we know who the Pope is.
And I think...
As we're talking about, prayer is also a central part.
All right.
james okeefe
Off.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Okay.
Well, pop the video on one more time.
I want to see the guys.
I want to see the Swiss Guard fight.
I just want to say that just once.
I want to see the Swiss Guard is like these guys, right?
They've had the same outfit for hundreds of years.
I want to see them fight.
And I'll, like, it's just if I'm president one day, right, and I go to the Vatican.
Or if I'm with a presidential delegation someday, I'm most likely, whatever it'll be, you know, in 20 years, the Secretary of Memes, right?
If I'm in that position, then I'll demand that these guys fight.
I'm going to be like, okay, show me how you fight with those things, right?
With those axes or pokey sticks.
I want to do that.
Like, show me that, please.
Okay?
And you might find that disrespectful, but I'm speaking on behalf of every man who's ever seen these Swiss guards in their little frilly frocks and their little helmets and their fancy uniforms with their axes.
They have, like, axes, right?
They have these axes.
Like, show me.
I'm like, come on.
Everyone loves the Crusades.
Everyone loves the Crusades.
Give me some good old-fashioned crusade battling.
Let's go!
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
You have a spear.
You have the papal flag with a spear.
You've turned the papal flag into a weapon, into a spear.
So go show me that, right?
Let's go!
Bring back the Crusades!
Let's go!
Come on, man.
unidentified
All right?
benny johnson
Just for sport, right?
Just for fun.
Okay.
Well, there we go.
So they say it's going to be potentially ours before we hear who the next pope is.
It's not going to be ours before we hear from Julie Kelly, who we are very glad.
There's so much breaking news in this program because, well, here we are with Julie.
Julie was able to lock in and get the right link and get up and going.
And I'm sure the great Julie Kelly...
You know, I'm sure the reason why Julie Kelly took a second to come and get ready for the show was because she was mourning January 6th.
I'm sure it's because she was so emotionally fragile about January 6th.
something we're going to start talking about right now, live with Julie Kelly.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you Julie, I don't mean to embarrass you here live on the stream, but...
I know how emotional you get over January 6th.
How frightened you are.
You haven't slept in years.
Thinking about a guy in buffalo horns.
Yodeling.
Unarmed.
Grandmothers with 25 cent.
julie kelly
Oh my god, please.
You have to stop.
You are adding to my trauma my emotional fragility over January 6th.
It's only been Four and a half years.
This could take decades for me to recover from watching Jacob Chansley and his horns and face paint talk to police officers.
I just...
I can't move on.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
benny johnson
I don't mean to trigger you.
I don't mean to trigger you.
unidentified
It's too late.
It's too late.
benny johnson
Well, there we go.
All right.
julie kelly
More nightmares tonight.
benny johnson
My apologies.
julie kelly
Me and Tom Tillis, we're going to be in the fetal position.
benny johnson
Let's try it.
julie kelly
About the Indiana Mimas taking selfies in the rotunda.
I just...
benny johnson
It is remarkable.
Jacob Chansley is such a sweetheart.
We've interviewed him a couple times, met him a couple times.
He's such a nice guy.
He's like, couldn't harm a fly.
And the fact that we have a senator on our show, Senator Mullen, we talked about this with Senator Hawley, who confirmed it, by the way, that the senators are in fetal, curled up in fetal positions, weeping over their memories of January 6th, five years out!
From this unarmed, peaceful protest, and that's what was able to sink Ed Martin's nomination, which was just announced within the hour.
What is the current state of Republicans in the Senate, please, Julie?
julie kelly
I mean, just weak, cowardly, ineffective.
And this news just now, and the president confirmed it in the Oval Office, that Ed Martin will not be confirmed as the D.C. U.S. attorney.
The president indicating, I'm just watching this now, that he has another person in mind.
So this is a scalp for the Democrats, for the weak-kneed Republicans like Tom Tillis and others, who sank this nomination.
Over January 6th, it's not that Ed Martin has not been effective.
He's been very effective in combating crime in Washington, D.C., which his predecessor, Matthew Graves, did not do.
And so this all has to do with January 6th, we're told, because Ed Martin was opening investigations into how his predecessor, Matthew Graves, prosecuted nearly 1,600 Americans for January 6th, including the unlawful 1512C2 obstruction.
Which Tom Tillis said on Tuesday was a heat-of-the-moment bad decision rather than a systematic abuse of a corporate fraud statute to criminalize political dissent and turn Trump supporters into felons.
So congratulations, Tom Tillis.
You won for now.
Very disappointed Ed Martin doing terrific work from day one.
And, you know, we'll see who the president comes up with now.
benny johnson
So here's the article.
Traumatized Tillis could inflict fatal blow.
And now we know that he did inflict a fatal blow.
Is he compromised, Julie?
This doesn't make any sense to me.
No human man with any amount of testosterone in his body and bloodstream would ever behave like this or would see January 6th as anything other than what it truly was, which is a federal op.
against a movement that they wished to destroy and peaceful protesters they wished to imprison for life.
julie kelly
Well, in that interview, and I did post the entirety of that interview in my Substack piece, he basically defended the Biden DOJ.
For weaponizing the law against his own constituents, as I wrote, 49 North Carolina residents investigated, arrested, charged, prosecuted, some convicted for January 6th, including 11 North Carolinians who were convicted of that 1512C2 obstruction.
I talked to a woman who's a former law enforcement official in North Carolina, no criminal record, was charged with obstruction, convicted by a D.C. jury.
Spent eight months in a federal detention facility in Philadelphia over what the Supreme Court then overturned last June, the DOJ's unlawful use of that statute against Jay Sixer.
So it appeared to me, Benny, that Tom Tillis didn't even know about the use of 1512C2 before Ed Martin educated him and explained to him what the Supreme Court did.
Then to suggest that anyone who went in the building that day should be prosecuted.
Okay, is 1,600 Americans not enough for you, Tom Tillis?
And then jumping to combat the front surrection, which most MAGA people believe, obviously, on our side, because there's plenty of evidence already, and Senate Republicans are trying to dig up even more evidence, Senators Grassley and Johnson.
So why did he leap to that, that no one created this or incited it?
Well, we have video and court documents and records that prove there were undercover agents and informants in that crowd.
So this is part of the cover-up of January 6th.
And shame on Republicans again, Penny, for not holding their own January 6th hearings, putting forward their own select committee with nighttime televised proceedings that the American people can see, which is why Tom Tillis can get away with his lies and now use those lies to end Ed Martin's service and the most powerful U.S. Attorney's Office in the country.
benny johnson
So you've excoriated and gutted, obviously, the humiliating and embarrassing actions here by Tom Tillis.
I'm left with the question why.
What would the purpose of doing this be for Tom Tillis?
He comes from a red state, a state that voted for President Trump in three elections, a state that had his own constituencies and probably his own voters tortured under the Biden regime.
You'd think that if anybody has motivation to find justice for J6ers, it would be Tom Tillis.
So, does his balls fall off?
Again, is there...
julie kelly
Well, it's at the very least a huge abdication of Tom Tillis' duty and authority on the Senate Judiciary Committee to act as the oversight of the Department of Justice, which they did not do.
During the Biden regime.
And now you have Ed Martin, who is going to hold accountable his predecessors, not just the use of 1512C2, but everything that they have done in that office.
Matthew Graves is the one who indicted Steve Bannon.
He's the one who indicted Peter Navarro.
Matthew Graves, Ed Martin's predecessor, is the one who refused to work with Special Counsel David Weiss in the Hunter Biden prosecution for his tax crimes in Washington.
His dirty fingerprints, Matthew Graves, Ed Martin's Democrat predecessor, all over the most politically charged prosecutions.
And Ed Martin was starting to open up the books on that and demand accountability and even move some of these J6 prosecutors, top prosecutors, demoting them to misdemeanor cases and taking them off, of course, the closed Capitol siege, as they called it, prosecution.
So why wouldn't Tom Tillis, as a senator, as a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, not see Ed Martin as a partner?
In bringing accountability and culpability to those in the DOJ who have completely torched that institution's once great reputation among the American people.
So is Tom Tillis part of the cover-up?
I'll tell you, Benny, and you know this, most Republicans wish J6 would go away.
The base doesn't.
But Republicans in Congress certainly do.
Because, Benny, if you expose especially what happened in the J6 prosecution, the abusive selective prosecution, how they were in cahoots with top DOJ officials, obviously the Biden White House on some of these matters as well, what are Republicans going to do about it?
Are they going to drag in Matthew Graves and send a criminal referral to Pam Bondi on him?
Are they going to send a criminal referral to Lisa Monaco or Biden White House officials?
Who are in cahoots with the DOJ to bring these political prosecutions with the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office?
So is he compromised?
I don't know.
He just strikes me as very stupid, Tom Tillis, just very dumb.
He's obviously woefully misinformed about the circumstances of January 6th and what happened to his own constituents.
But he appears to be doing the dirty work for someone here.
benny johnson
Wow.
The dirty work for someone.
I mean, yeah, it's like, it just makes no, it just makes absolutely no sense.
And it makes the entire Republican conference and Senate, which has done some laudable things with multiple tough Trump confirmations.
They've gotten them all across the finish line.
I don't care if it's by one vote.
It doesn't matter to me.
It's a victory.
But the retreat on this, as Josh Hawley just said on the program.
The retreat on this marks some very dangerous times for President Trump in the Senate right now with a mutiny from his own side.
If he can't get Ed Martin, if they're able to peel off more than just the McConnell, the last few remaining dying McConnell wing, then you're going to have a real rough road for MAGA in the Senate.
julie kelly
And look, these are not Tom Tillis' constituents in North Carolina ringing up his phone in his district offices and in Washington saying, we don't want Ed Martin.
I mean, most people don't even know who Ed Martin is, right?
This is really relegated to a Beltway issue.
So it's not like this was an uprising in North Carolina against Ed Martin.
This is strictly a Beltway bureaucracy protection racket.
That Tom Tillis is leading and now President Trump admitting he's going to have to find another nominee.
Will that have to be Tom Tillis approved?
Will we have to make sure that that D.C. U.S. attorney is equally traumatized by the four-hour protest four and a half years ago on a Wednesday afternoon at a government building?
I mean, will we have to find out what dark dreary dreams this new nominee has about what happened that day?
I mean, who in the world is going to be able to take Ed's place?
Will the internal inquiry, Benny, right now, ongoing about 1512C2, will that be shut down?
Is that part of this?
Because when the Supreme Court overturned, and I really have to emphasize this, overturned the DOJ's use of 1512C2, that is unprecedented in DOJ history.
The judges and the prosecutors knew they were bastardizing the language in that statute.
Admittedly, very vague.
They knew the intention of that law was never to be used against political protesters.
In fact, when George W. Bush signed that bill in 2002, he specifically said this is not to be used against political demonstrations.
But here they are.
They got away with it to a degree.
The Supreme Court bitch-slapping DOJ and these judges for allowing this to happen.
Over 100 Americans spent time in federal prison on that charge alone.
We deserve answers.
The J6ers most importantly deserve answers on that.
So now Tom Tillis appears to not just have ousted Ed Martin, but potentially shut down an investigation into the most abusive use of federal law against political protesters in DOJ history.
benny johnson
What an absolute scar.
On the face of North Carolina and on the Republican Party there.
And I didn't expect to see this happening.
And we had been lulled to sleep, potentially, Julie, by getting some big numbers like RFK and Pete Hegseth and Kash Patel and Tulsi.
Everybody said that they were doomed.
And so I thought Ed Martin would just be a lock.
And I was so thrilled about what I saw coming out of the D.C. attorney's office.
And to have the sabotage and then to have the capitulation here is quite a shock to us.
And yeah, I really hope that there's a greater strategy here.
There's something that we can't see because otherwise it just looks like they're going to continue to use the January 6th issue to destroy President Trump and destroy his agenda.
And they're going to do it from the right, which is, I guess, was always the plan.
But the cuck, the humiliating cuckedness and feebleness and feline nature of Republican senators continues to astonish.
julie kelly
It really does.
I mean, this is starting to feel like Trump's first term, right?
Where we had the president in the White House.
He helped win a majority in the House.
The Senate was Republican.
It looked like rock and roll time, right?
And that, of course, got disabled where?
The Robert Mueller investigation.
And that sabotaged potentially and tried to really derail, end his whole presidency.
And there you go, as I posted as well, Tom Tillis protecting Robert Mueller's job back in 2017 while now getting rid of Ed Martin.
So, you know, there's so much hypocrisy surrounding this as well.
But Republicans in Congress better get their act together.
Because what they have done now, four months into power, is not impressing the base whatsoever.
The president almost single-handedly and his cabinet doing all of the heavy lifting on the big issues that we care about.
And now allowing Tom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins and all the others who threaten to not vote for Ed Martin, giving them a big win.
This also gives the media a win, Benny.
The media has targeted Ed Martin since the very beginning.
His predecessor, Matthew Graves, got no media scrutiny over what he was doing in that office, aside from refusing to prosecute 67% of violent criminals who were brought to him by D.C. Metro Police, refusing, declining, as they call it, declination rate of 67%.
That's the only coverage they got.
Anything else he did, the media swooned over Matthew Graves, dragging Indiana Memos into D.C. courtrooms before D.C. juries and getting quick convictions.
But Ed Martin did not enjoy, of course, his predecessor's insular media coverage.
And so this was not a mistake.
This was the media, Democrats, senators like Tom Tillis and others.
And there's a big reason why.
And that is something else that we have to keep looking at.
And I hope Ed Martin has some things to say once he leaves that office.
I suspect that he will.
benny johnson
We do have Ed Martin's first post since the announcement that his nomination has been withdrawn by the president.
It goes like this.
Plot twist.
And it's him as the Pope.
It's bittersweet, Julie, because it proves that he was the right man for the job.
If you're able to...
So elegantly roll through these news cycles like this.
It proves that you were the right guy, right?
It proves that you had the stomach for it, right?
You had the iron for it all.
And it makes me very angry.
julie kelly
Well, I've known as...
I've known Ed for many years before January 6th.
He's a very religious man, devout man.
He actually just spoke at my daughter's college at Ave Maria in Naples, Florida.
So he's a very faithful man.
So I'm sure he will take this in stride.
And I hope the president finds somewhere else to put him or Pam Bondi.
I don't know, maybe a special counsel, special prosecutor.
So I don't think his service in the Trump administration is over.
benny johnson
Good.
Okay, well, maybe he can be the special Epstein prosecutor.
So this is the, you know, Julie, I know that we've talked a little bit about this, but it does seem to be a very fascinating ballgame right now.
Like, who's on first?
Who has the Epstein documents?
Who has all these videos?
What's going on?
James Comer was on our show two days ago, and he said there's no Epstein documents.
They've all been deleted.
They've all been gotten rid of.
The deep state wouldn't allow smoldering evidence to just sit in the back room.
Waiting for Pam Bondi and Cash to discover it.
And then Pam Bondi come out with Cash Patel saying, no, no, no, we have tens of thousands of hours of tape.
What's going on here?
Do you think we'll ever expect to see anything from this?
And the reason why we do this style of act is to ask these questions that it keeps the heat up, keeps the friction up, and we might actually get a result, but I don't know.
julie kelly
I mean, I just don't know.
There's been a lot of mixed messaging on this since the very beginning.
I will say, Benny, this is not on the top of my priority list of what I would like to see out of this DOJ in terms of records and documentation and communications.
I, of course, want to see January 6th, more of the law fair.
And to the president, everything that went down in the decision-making and the execution of the Mar-a-Lago rate, the Whitmer Fed-napping hoax, which of course preceded January 6th with a lot of the same elements.
So I don't really know what's going on with the Epstein files, but it seems like the messaging should at least...
Be running the same track.
And, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of sensitivities, as Pam Bondi said, protecting victims.
But we want to make sure it's victims we're protecting and not influential people, which I highly doubt.
Attorney General Panbody would be doing.
But this is a wide-ranging case with a lot of moving parts that happened over decades.
So I'm sure they're going to be very careful in terms of what they can release and what they can't.
But I guarantee you, the American people, at least our side, regardless of what they put forward, are probably going to be disappointed.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, at some point you have to sit there and rationally ask, like...
Will the deep state and will these intel operations allow there to be smoking gun evidence that's just sitting in a box waiting to be found by the wrong people?
And, you know, you do wonder about that.
Okay, so what about something that happened just in recent history?
You know, the January 6th pipe bomber.
Like, we got the same answer.
Jim Jordan's on the show, and we get the same answer that we get every single time, right?
Which is, boy, I'd like to know.
It's like, well, so would we!
And nobody has come forward with anything declarative.
Now, I know you know Cash very well, and I know that there's no way, and Pam.
So JFK documents, those were thrown into the river, right?
They're at the bottom of the sea.
Epstein was, a lot of these crimes were 20 years old, and so who knows what could have happened with that.
The January 6th pipe bomber's still alive.
And, as far as we know, right?
Like, still, like, hanging out.
Like, is that a Starbucks right now?
And the person who planted the bombs on January 6th, the FBI agents who degraded the footage on January 6th, the people who lied to us about the pipe bomber, they're still hanging out inside the FBI, as far as we know.
So, here we go.
Here's a hot potato.
What's going on with this?
julie kelly
Well, look, my belief, and especially knowing Dan Bongino as I do, and how fixated he has been on the pipe bomber in his coverage and my interviews with him over the last few years, I'm sure this is a priority.
But, Benny, if there's anything that the Chris Wray FBI is going to hide under 10,000 layers of rock underneath the Hoover Building.
It is records related to the pipe bomber, because as my friend Derrick Beatty has said for years, if you expose that that was part of an inside job, if you expose that that was an informant, it was an undercover agent, someone associated with the government, then the entire January 6th narrative completely unravels from there.
So we know this was a Fed's direction.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, it's not your feed.
unidentified
It's Julie's feed that froze for just a moment.
julie kelly
More and more information about that.
benny johnson
See?
julie kelly
Anytime we talk about this, I swear to God, there's like some glitch.
benny johnson
Yes!
julie kelly
Happens every time.
benny johnson
Every single time.
Every time.
julie kelly
I think Chris Ray is somewhere out in my neighborhood.
benny johnson
With the black van with the satellites on top.
Julie, you're back and you're crisp and you're live and here we go.
julie kelly
Yes.
So anyway, if they were going to bury anything, it would be the files on the pipe bomber.
But I don't, knowing also how tenacious Dan Bongino is and how committed he is to finding this out, you know, we were hoping we would know something by now.
But my guess is it's going to be much more difficult and challenging to get the information related to the investigation.
As you just pointed out, we were lied to about the footage.
They doctored the footage.
We've already demonstrated that.
Stephen DeAntuano, who was head of the Washington FBI field office, lied to Congress, saying that one of the cell phone files, data collections that they got from a cell phone provider, had been destroyed or disrupted.
The cell phone providers came back to Representative Barry Loudon and said, that's not true.
We have all the files.
If you want our data from January 5th and 6th, we have it.
So there's just one cover up, one lie, one misrepresentation over another here.
So they are, like I said, if there's anything that they lacked behind many, many blacks and keys and threw away the keys and threw away the doors and everything else, it's about the J6 pipe bomber.
But I still trust Dan Bajicic.
I want to give you an opportunity.
benny johnson
To respond to the criticisms of Cash and Dan.
Because not only do I view people like Dan as a mentor, and Cash has been a regular on this program, but also the sheer magnitude of work that is required to bring a criminal conviction, one that sticks.
Like, to build a...
To build not a synthetic house, but a real house.
One that stands.
Charges that can bring people in in handcuffs.
This is lots of work.
And not only that, you're having to steer the barge that was already headed downstream.
The 2,000 ton barge.
You're going to have to stop all of that momentum and then turn it about.
And there's been criticism of the speed of this happening.
And I know that you understand sort of the inner workings here better than perhaps any person alive given the fact that you've spent hundreds, maybe thousands of hours now in J6 cases observing these judges, observing the FBI and the prosecutors in these cases and so on.
You've seen the infrastructure up close that's been built.
And so maybe just giving you an open floor to speak to the criticisms of Cash and Dan for not going fast enough.
julie kelly
Well, and thank you for that.
So I think Cash has been there, what, 10 or 12 weeks maybe.
I think Dan has been there eight weeks.
So in the time between even before the president won until they took their positions at the FBI, just think of what top FBI officials from Chris Wray to his deputies to his little foot soldiers at all 56 FBI field offices, especially Washington.
Just imagine.
The mischief that they were up to in the months preceding Cash and Dan taking over the FBI.
So they've been going in blind and intentionally so.
That's how the FBI, his predecessor, set that up.
So first of all, you have to figure out your priority list.
Who are you going to investigate first?
What are you going to investigate first?
How are we going to collect evidence?
Who are we going to talk to?
Within the Bureau and outside the Bureau.
And let's say you get all the evidence that you want to charge who?
Stephen DeAntuano, let's just say this hypothetically, the former Washington FBI field director for lying to Congress and who knows what other chicanery related to the pipeline issue.
You have to go before a grand jury and get an indictment.
Well, in this case, you would have to go before a DC grand jury.
Grand juries are made up of the same people who make up trial juries.
So think about that.
You've got almost 100% Democrats sitting on a grand jury who are going to determine whether to hand up an indictment that the Trump DOJ wants against former members of the Biden DOJ.
So that is a huge obstacle in and of itself.
And look, we've already seen reporting Ed Martin try to get a warrant.
A search warrant on Citibank related to that $20 billion slush fund.
You had a magistrate judge in D.C., the same magistrate judge, by the way, who has signed off on hundreds of arrest warrants for J6ers.
She denied his request, saying, no, I need more information.
This doesn't seem right.
We shouldn't subpoena Citibank or send them a letter to halt the disbursement of this money.
You had an article in the New York Times last week, top DOJ officials seeking an investigation into the pro-Hamas terror group on Columbia's campus.
Not only were they thwarted by career DOJ employees and lawyers, two federal judges refused to allow the DOJ to move forward with a search warrant to find out the membership list and get data.
From Instagram on who that membership is, citing First Amendment concerns.
And this is just what we already know publicly reported.
Imagine what's going on behind the scenes.
So maybe you go before a D.C. grand jury and you bring all the information and they refuse, they give you a no bill, meaning, no, we're not giving you the indictment.
Well, then what?
Do you go tell the American people that?
Plus, if all these investigations are going to happen in Washington, D.C., look at the judges that they have to deal with.
Who oversees grand jury proceedings?
The chief judge of the D.C. District Court.
That would be Jeb Bosford.
You think he's going to give the Trump, DOJ, or FBI a fair shake in investigations into his own people?
No.
So this is just one angle of the formidable, almost overwhelming, daunting challenge that Cash and Dan...
As well as Pam Bondi and her top DOJ officials have in terms of creating and bringing forth any sort of criminal case against these former Democratic operatives.
benny johnson
Goodness.
All right.
Well, I mean, Julie, I have to pivot to one final topic that's top of my news feed and that's just chilling.
Your breakdown there is depressing, frankly.
Boy, like, no, I mean, on some level, it's impressive how Democrats have been able to take this fake state that isn't even real and to stack all of their power up so high in that fake state.
Washington, D.C. is a rat-infested cesspool.
It shouldn't even exist as not real place.
I've lived there for 15 years.
It's awful.
One of the most mismanaged things.
If it were a country, it'd be like Haiti.
And it's atrocious mismanagement.
The point is that they were able to see that as a vector of power, and they were able to stack so high the cards against us there that they can get whatever they want.
They can rule in total fiefdom fashion.
And so on some level, it's like the banality of the evil is almost impressive.
Okay, so moving very quickly to the Supreme Court and to Norm Eisen and his strange relationship with John Roberts.
And John Roberts getting sued right now, actually, over that relationship and over his relationship with the executive by America First Legal.
I'm not sure if you've examined that lawsuit and made a lot of news, as has, if you really look at the relationship with John Roberts, I mean, he's vacationing for months with the guy who brought all, funded all of the lawfare against Donald Trump.
That seems insane.
And we have a Revolver News story on it right here.
We wanted to get your take on it because you're sharpest attack on these things, Julie.
What are we to think of John Roberts and his stewardship of this court?
julie kelly
I mean, I think universally everyone is very disappointed.
And almost depressed about John Roberts' handling of his court.
And he apparently gave some remarks just last night talking about the importance of the judiciary and its independence and being a check on excessive congressional and executive power.
And we are the Constitution.
Okay, well, what does that mean?
You just intervene in a case, in a strictly executive branch case, of the president determining whether our country was under an invasion or predatory incursion by a hostile regime, the Maduro regime, using members of Trente Aragua and importing them into this country in huge, unprecedented numbers.
I mean...
Benny, in 2023, Venezuela was second only to Mexico in terms of the number of migrants crossing our southern border illegally to come into America.
Venezuelans were coming here en masse, like we saw during the Biden regime.
And we know that the Maduro regime, also connected to Iran, works its way in these countries, in Central, in South America, and now the U.S., by using TDA.
But you had the Supreme Court, John Roberts, step in and stop the president from exercising his right under the Alien Enemies Act to declare an invasion and target these Venezuelan illegals for immediate removal from this country, deeming them a threat to public safety and national security, which of course they are.
So then you have John Roberts last night opining, patting himself on the back.
Pretending that he is the only arbiter and interpreter of the Constitution.
This is a true crisis, Benny.
Not just at the Supreme Court, but throughout our federal judiciary.
Watching how these judges are not just making decisions, but the comments that they are making.
You have unelected...
Ignorant district court judges like this Charlotte Sweeney in Colorado.
She's been a judge for three years.
She was never in the government.
She was never a prosecutor.
She has no foreign policy experience.
On her own, determining that the president was wrong to designate TDA as a foreign terror organization, that there is no incursion or invasion.
Who are you to say that?
And now you've had other judges say that as well because John Roberts gave them the green light on April 7th when he intervened and stopped the president basically from using the Alien Enemies Act in the way that every president can and should be able to do so.
So this is a true crisis.
And honestly, I don't know what we do from here.
There are not a lot of good answers except just completely ignoring what these judges are doing and saying.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, are judges going to send their armies to stop Trump?
I mean, at some level, why does Joe Biden get a right to do this?
He was cheered from the rooftop when Joe Biden was like, no, F it.
I'm just going to forgive all the student loans.
Don't care what you say.
Now, on some level, you just got to scratch your head and say, we either have a presidency or we don't.
And if we have a presidency...
Then he has the right to protect the homeland.
He's the commander-in-chief.
He has designated powers.
And the crisis is in judicial overreach into Article 2. Not in what Trump's doing.
The crisis is clearly in what the courts are doing to Trump.
But, yeah.
unidentified
That's right.
julie kelly
And we had another Republican senator, another favorite, Jim Lankford, James Lankford, from Oklahoma.
Boy, the Oklahoma senators yesterday, they really...
They really shine through.
Let's just say that.
So he was doing an interview and he also said that these illegals should be afforded due process.
No, they shouldn't.
You came here illegally.
Many of you are criminals.
And this is an outrage in cities across the country, especially minority communities who are outraged at these migrants, illegals, setting up camps or...
Or wherever they want to rest their head or set up their little mini TDAs or their little mini MS-13 gang enclaves.
And so, I mean, this is, but the judiciary are the ones who are now empowering that.
And so Jim Langford saying, yeah, they all deserve due process.
I think there's already a five-year backlog in court hearings on asylum claims.
I guess the 10 or 12 million that Joe Biden led into the country, they're just going to be here until we satisfy Senator Lankford's devotion to imaginary due process for people who cross this border illegally under the former regime and just get to stay here until they want to go home, I suppose.
benny johnson
I think they should increase, you know, I think there's like two or three.
Women who are Republican senators.
I think you could just increase those numbers by having some of these senators just come out as just feminine and feline and so weak and so weepy.
julie kelly
Tranny senators.
benny johnson
Yeah, you could just identify.
You just say, I identify.
James Langford would be a good start.
That guy finds himself on the wrong side of every single bill, on the wrong side of every.
What a tool.
They're all tools.
They truly are.
And unfortunately, well, it's what we have to deal with right now.
And here we are dealing with a new pope.
Okay, it's live right now.
Julia, I'm not sure if you're interested in watching this, but we have the new pope officially being announced.
Movement on the balcony.
This is live.
julie kelly
Wow, that was quick.
benny johnson
Here we go.
You can hear the cheering and...
I'm waiting for...
unidentified
We have multiple very Catholic producers here, so ALX and...
Abemus Papam!
Eminentissimum, ac reverendissimum Dominum, Dominum Robertum Franciscum, Sancte Romane Ecclesiae Cardinalem Prevost, qui sibi nomen imposuit Leonem Decimum Quartum.
now.
So, we have the first American Pope of all time, the former Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, a native of Chicago, the former head of the dicastery for bishops, is the 267th Peter, and he has chosen the name Leo XIV, likely a result of trying to continue the Catholic Church's social teaching, which traces...
benny johnson
We have an American Pope?
julie kelly
And he's from Chicago.
benny johnson
Am I hearing that right?
julie kelly
I don't know.
I thought that was a joke.
benny johnson
Wait, what?
julie kelly
Hold on.
unidentified
Whoa!
benny johnson
Hey, producers, you better hop in the chat here and lock it in.
What's going on?
Robert Francis Primo.
unidentified
They have remained in their choice with the Western Hemisphere, this time moving to North America, specifically the United States, an unprecedented development, obviously in the life of the church.
69-year-old from Chicago.
All right.
Former prefect.
who also has long experience here in Rome.
He was a member of the Augustinians.
He was head of the Augustinians for over a decade.
julie kelly
Wow.
unidentified
Somebody who is well-known among the Latin American cardinals, somebody who's well-known among the Spanish cardinals, somebody who has also now established himself as the prefect for the dicastery for bishops.
All of those connections coming together here among the cardinals for him to reach, at a minimum, 89 votes for his election.
Holy moly!
Goodness.
benny johnson
All right, well, Chicago, stand strong.
You're from Chicago, Julie.
julie kelly
I sure am.
unidentified
I'm outside Chicago right now, and I'll be in the city tomorrow, yeah.
All right, well.
julie kelly
Stand strong.
unidentified
My Catholic Chicago husband will be very excited about this.
benny johnson
Do you know this individual?
unidentified
No.
julie kelly
I'm going to look them up.
unidentified
Wow.
julie kelly
That's exciting.
unidentified
We believe in the Lord Jesus.
And now we have the first son of our shores baptized in the heart of our country who...
There's never been a Pope from the United States?
for the church in the United States, that we have now given the Holy Roman Catholic Church A successor is St. Peter.
It's a moment for which we should all be proud.
1908 was the last when the United States was removed from the direction of the congregation then for evangelization of peoples.
benny johnson
Goodness.
unidentified
We are considered the golden age.
benny johnson
Even the Pope's American.
It could have been Trump!
It could have been Trump!
julie kelly
Trump can't be the first American Pope now!
benny johnson
You're telling me there's a chance!
unidentified
Unbelievable.
Wow.
El Agendo.
His coat of arms.
We can talk a lot more about the coat of arms.
It has the August Goodness gracious.
Remarkable.
In the one Christ we are one.
Certainly a continuation of those discussions that we saw in the general congregations So I guess he's going to make an appearance here.
And I guess, wow.
Pope Deepdish.
Hope Italian beef.
benny johnson
That's right.
Man, maybe he can make his office in Trump Tower.
julie kelly
Won't be able to put ketchup on your hot dogs anymore in the Vatican.
benny johnson
The Trump Pope memes worked.
unidentified
It worked.
benny johnson
He's such a genius.
julie kelly
You know, he's going to take credit for it.
unidentified
He's totally going to take credit for it.
Wow.
Wow.
I love how...
The resurrection, the Holy Eucharist, so much more.
That is his new responsibility.
benny johnson
ALX and Danny are super Catholics, and they had no clue who this guy was, that this guy was going to be Pope.
unidentified
Way to go.
benny johnson
They're patriots, they love America, they love Catholicism, and they had no clue.
Look at that, the American flag right there.
That should have been you, Danny.
julie kelly
All right, let's see.
unidentified
He's going to come in very handy.
He tries to lead the church.
Pope Francis was regularly doing motu proprio and chirographs and things like this, in which much of the language would be written by others so that it would have legal force.
He's going to have training that Pope Francis didn't have in that as he keeps the church a church that obeys a constitution.
And he certainly has a lot of experience that is, again, relevant.
I keep coming back to this.
Who checked all of the boxes?
His experience with canon law is significant.
benny johnson
Ashley, grab some comments, will you?
Julie, we appreciate it.
You're welcome to hang out and chill with us.
I want to kind of, like, hear...
Are we going to hear the comments?
Are we going to get, like...
unidentified
Yeah, we're going to get...
benny johnson
We're going to get commentary, right?
unidentified
The pope's going to come out and speak, right?
benny johnson
So the first American pope?
julie kelly
Will he have a Chicago accent?
unidentified
This will be great.
Yeah!
Right?
He was bishop there of the Diocese of Chiclayo.
Pop it up!
Got a lot of Catholics in the audience that are...
I'm very happy about this.
And a lot of Catholics in Chicago, they're very happy about this.
Yes.
union where he studied initially for an ambassador's degree in theology, came to Rome as a member of the Augustinians, received his extensive training with a licentiate and doctorate in canon law.
began service around the world.
The Pope is the chief missionary in the church, and the fact that The former Cardinal Prevost, the new Pope Leo XIV, was a missionary, shows how he is going to be able to lead that because he's had a missionary heart.
I think, likewise, the fact that he was an Augustinian, raised in the Augustinian rule with a great love for St. Augustine, the huge convert.
benny johnson
Guys, we changed the title here.
unidentified
We're praying that he's going to be able to speak to the restless hearts of multitudes across the globe and lead them, as St. Augustine found, to the only one who can feed that hunger, the only one who can quell that restlessness.
Now, I know that everyone feels like they've been waiting for a long time.
On average, it's about eight to ten minutes before we get to hear from the new Holy Father himself.
And that's going to be remarkable, but we're only a couple of minutes in.
So hang in there.
You're about to see him.
You're about to hear his voice for the first time as this qualified new leader of the Global Catholic Church.
And we'll look for those immediate visual clues.
Will he be wearing the traditional papal mosetta, the red mosetta that popes traditionally wear?
Pope Francis eschewed it.
That'll tell us something more about him as well.
So there's a lot of other things to look at.
For example, how he introduces himself, as we were saying.
Is Italian going to be flawless, given his many years here?
Who he talks to immediately?
How he refers, for example, to Pope Francis?
Does he immediately, for example, begin a process of looking forward as well?
And how does he establish himself as his own man?
And I think that's going to be something very interesting to look at.
Is he a Bears fan?
God, I hope not.
The only way that the Bears will win the Super Bowl.
Hey, there you go.
Our sports teams are in bad shape.
julie kelly
Maybe this is a good omen.
benny johnson
I love our commenters.
The Vatican didn't want to get hit with tariffs.
unidentified
The new and burgeoning villages that are coming up and will come to him asking for encouragement, All right.
benny johnson
Julie, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
It's such fun.
It's breaking news.
You know, you never know.
unidentified
That's right.
Okay.
benny johnson
And here we go.
julie kelly
Oh, here he is.
unidentified
Leo, the 14th.
benny johnson
All right.
Thank you, Julie.
unidentified
Thank you, Julie.
He is wearing the Mazetta and the Stoll.
Goodness.
Pope Leo XIV, the former Cardinal Robert Criveaux of Chicago in the United States.
A scene very reminiscent of Pope St. John Paul II when he came out on the loggia on an evening similar to this in 1978.
78. I feel the emotion in the crowd.
They barely know him, but they know who he is.
And right now the band is playing.
And after the band finishes, they will bring out a microphone for the new Holy Father to speak to all of us, as well as to impart his first blessing as the 267th Pope.
For all those who have any religious objects who are watching live, that Irby at Orby blessing.
consecrates those religious objects.
benny johnson
All right.
So, we've been doing some research on this guy, and the...
Catholics on the site, Danny producers who are very traditionally Catholic.
Do you go to Latin Mass, Alex or Danny?
They say that he is of the left, that this new pope is of the left.
But we'll see.
I guess we'll see.
It's hard to think of anybody more of the left than Pope Francis, but unfortunately, this man was not from the conservative wing of the party, but we'll see.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
Is he going to have like a Chicago accent?
This is wild, man.
unidentified
Archbishop Ravelli on...
Our right of the new Holy Father, Pope Leo XIV, gets out the words of the Urbi and Urbi blessing that he will pray in Latin.
And notably, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, I believe, is to his left.
Here we go.
with you all.
to all of us.
I am giving my blessing that may reach to you, to all your families, to all of you who have come here.
May peace be with you all.
He's been cheered on by the crowd.
Questa è la pace di Cristo risorto.
This is the peace of Christ risen from the dead.
God is close to you all.
Finalmente, ancora conserviamo nei nostri orecchi quella voce debole, ma sempre coraggiosa, di Papa Francesco, che benediva Roma.
Now we consent to listen with our ears to the voice of our beloved deceased Pope Francis.
The Pope always gives his blessing to the entire world.
Allow me to follow that same blessing.
And now I want to be able to give that same blessing because God loves you.
God loves you all.
We are all beloved of God for that reason.
"Mando una mano con Dio, e tra di noi andiamo avanti." Let's go together.
We are disciples of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ precedes us.
We complete his mission.
The Pope needs to be the one who is a bridge between the Lord and us.
We are going to build the bridge with the dialogue, with the meeting.
We do that through dialogue with Encounter so that we might be one body.
Thanks to Pope Francis.
I'd like to thank all my brother Cardinals who have chosen me to be the successor of St. Peter.
To be someone who's always looking for peace and justice.
To help everybody become more faithful to the Lord Jesus.
so that we can all be missionaries of the gospel.
I am a son of St. Augustine.
I am a son of St. Augustine, an Augustinian.
Who said, "With you, I am a Christian." But with all of you I am a Christian.
And in this sense, we all have to walk together to the true homeland.
The one that God has prepared us.
And God prepared us to go to Bethlehem.
To the Diocese of Rome, I give a special greeting.
We have to look together as a church missionary, a church that builds bridges and dialogue.
We have to go together as a church that together builds bridges with open arms to everyone.
just like this piazza of St. Peter embraces everyone in its arms?
Now he is speaking in Spanish to all those.
In particular, my dear God of Chiclayo, Peru, where a faithful people who have accompanied by his bishop has shared his faith.
Where I've accompanied your bishop, a church that has given so much, so much.
Amen.
to all of you especially to those who are suffering today It's a day in which the whole church
praise to our lady of pompeii Our Lady always walks with us.
She's always close to us.
and we are sure of her love.
We are sure of her love.
Let's pray together for this new mission that the entire church bring peace to the world.
Let us ask for a special grace from Mary, our mother.
He's praying the Hail Mary in Italian.
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners.
Now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
We apologize for the translation because of the serious echoes throughout St. Peter's Square, which made it hard to discern what he was saying.
We will be providing the text of this on CNA and Asiprensa.
The Latin formula to give us his first Urbi at Urbi blessing to the city and to the world.
The Holy Father is about to give Communications, the plenary indulgence offered to all the people.
Let's all pray together that the Lord will preserve his new Petrine ministry as he seeks to bless the world.
Sancti Apostoli Petrus et Paulus.
The Holy Apostles, Peter and Paul, we entrust to the intercession of Our Lady, St. Michael the Archangel, St. John the Baptist, and all.
And the holy apostles, Peter and Paul and all the saints.
May they always have mercy on you and all your dear ones.
And may they lead us through Jesus Christ to eternal life.
May the Lord give you mercy and indulgence.
Give you space for true repentance.
And change of life.
Grace and the consolation of the Holy Spirit.
And perseverance in good works.
May Almighty.
God, in the merciful Lord, grant us that grace.
And may the blessing of Almighty God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit descend upon you and remain with you always.
ways.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The moment that we'd all been waiting for, a bilingual papal blessing, is that a first?
It is a first, and it is surprising at the same time that he didn't speak in English.
He spoke in Italian, he spoke in Spanish, and he spoke in Latin, but not in his native tongue.
I think that was by choice so that Pope Leo XIV wouldn't simply be understood.
Only as an American, but now as the Holy Father to the entire Catholic family, as the Swiss Guard Band is now playing the hymn of the Roman Pontiff.
In very subtle ways, he is establishing himself here.
We heard that in those different languages, he's also making a point about the universality of the Church.
He's recognizing the significance of...
The Southern Hemisphere, the Western Hemisphere, in particular Latin America, where he has spent so much of his time and where the church is so large, so vibrant and growing.
He spoke in Italian, which one would expect, because he is now the Bishop of Rome and therefore head of the church, a successor of St. Peter.
He spoke in Latin.
It was beautifully delivered because he is a canonist, obviously well-schooled in Latin.
And then we look again, as we suggested, at the visual cues.
Pope Francis decided not to wear many of the things that we most associate the inauguration or the start of a papacy.
I think of the stole.
I think of the Mosetta.
He embraced those very clearly.
And then in the choice of name, Pope Francis had joked many times that his successor would be John XXIV.
This pope, Leo XIV, is now staking out his own place in the history of the papacy.
He is tying himself directly to the pope who dealt most Firstly, with the challenges of modernity, of the changes in the world because of the industrial and technical revolutions that were taking place.
He was the author of Rerum Novarum in 1891 that began us on the path of Catholic social teaching.
He's anchoring himself in the past, but clearly trying to position himself now as a source of unity in the Church.
as he leaves the window the crowd goes wild everyone is clapping for the new Holy Father for the Pope that they have finally met who they've listened to and who in a very beautiful way has come to them as an
Augustinian come to meet them where they are speaking in a language we saw so many flags from Latin America that you know was a heart language for those in the audience in addition to trying really hard to just come close to them come along all right in the native Italian so okay start So here we go.
benny johnson
Yeah, you know, we're reading the comment section, we're reading the chat, and among many people making fun of my rooster hair today, which just is what it is, right?
Stop messing with it.
Okay, whatever.
I want to begin by saying you never know what's going to happen.
We have a news show.
And some people are like, why are you broadcasting this, right?
You're not a Catholic, or they disagree with the Catholic Church.
Well, we broadcast a lot of stuff that we disagree with.
We just went through four years of Joe Biden.
We broadcast a lot of Joe Biden stuff and a lot of Kamala Harris stuff, rallies and things that they were at.
It's newsworthy.
And what we do here is we create a vector for people to comment on the news and for us to listen to you.
It is our solemn duty to constantly be listening to the chat.
I see the chat right here.
I'm looking at the chat right here, and I'm saying I love the chat.
And I thank you.
I thank you for—yeah, and I see everybody roasting my hair.
Don't care.
It just is what it is, you know?
Your father of four little kids, you're lucky if you get a shower at all, all right?
And so we're just going to roll with it.
And be thankful that we still have hair, all right?
That's just— So I'm not going to be wearing a pope hat, right, on this show.
We want to be respectful to the Catholics that are in the audience, but more importantly, we want to give people an opportunity to chat and to comment.
My take on this is that Christ is king.
And that Christ is Lord, is that Christ is King.
So that's what I've been saying.
But to the Catholic faithful, I think this is really neat.
It's certainly a historic moment and a historic event.
And you have a right to your opinion on it.
And you have a right to drop it right there in the chat.
We see you.
We hear you.
We freaking love you.
And we are thankful for this.
We have created now multiple news cycles.
Whether you like them or not, right?
Whatever you think of Pam Bondi, whatever you think of James O 'Keefe, whatever you think of what happens.
We've created multiple news cycles on this program because we listen to the chat.
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We want to make this the most interactive.
Our dream here is, and it's fascinating watching this because it actually ties beautifully into what our dream is.
Our dream here is that our show can become big enough.
And this chat becomes powerful enough that it can really influence policy in the world around us.
It gives you a perfect vector in to the powerful people who are running this place.
On this show today, we had two of the most powerful pundits in America, Julie Kelly and Mike Davis.
We asked them questions that we know you care about, and we're getting better at that.
We're getting better and more sophisticated at reading the chats and understanding what you want to hear about.
I know this is a matter of fact.
I don't know if you're Catholic or Protestant or something else, but I do know this.
That you know we've been lied to about Jeffrey Epstein.
You know that we have been lied to about the Trump assassinations.
That you know that the J6 pipe bomber is still out there and there are feds who know who they were.
The J6 pipe bomber was a fed.
And you want those answers.
And the reason you want those answers, you want to rip the guts out of the deep state.
And that's how you do it.
You expose them as frauds.
And so, like, we listened to that and we asked those questions.
On this show, we also had Jim Jordan and Josh Hawley.
Those are really powerful members of the House and Senate.
And we ask them questions for you.
We listen to the chat, we see the chat, and we ask them questions for you.
I am going to lay down the gauntlet.
I want the chat on screen.
I want to lay down the gauntlet.
We're going to put the chat up on screen.
The reason we can is that we simulcast on multiple different platforms.
There are some platforms that allow you to put the chat up on screen, and you're allowed to see them.
There are ways that we can do it.
It's a matter of will.
And I'm like speaking right to Killer Kline.
I want to be able to see that chat on screen.
Sometimes we might not be able to have it like with a guest, right?
When we have the guests on, when we have the two box, it's already getting crowded, right?
But we're going to figure out a way to do it.
The reason it's on on some streams is that they're only streaming to Kik, right?
And Kik has that operability with the chat.
We'd stream on everything.
We're streaming live right now on Facebook, on Rumble.
We love our partners on YouTube.
We love the chat.
We try and put up comments from X and Facebook, YouTube, Rumble, all of it, okay?
And we love you, whatever platform you choose to watch on.
We're thankful for you.
We do our very damnedest to listen to you and to be a vector for you.
We are getting all these powerful people wanting to come on the show.
All these big names.
You've seen people who are running for president, who are running for various offices, who have now big offices coming on the program.
We're going to be your vector to ask them a question.
We're going to be the place where you can get into the chat and where you can be heard.
And so, you know, I'm going to get off my little soapbox here.
But, you know, broadcasting this, half the chat's like, why are you broadcasting the Vatican and the Pope?
I have these opinions.
Well, that's actually what this is all about.
We're going to put the stream up.
It's the most...
This is the most newsworthy thing happening on earth right now, the selection of the first American pope, a dude from Chicago.
We're going to put that up on screen.
We're going to give you a chance, you a chance, to pop up and to, like, say your piece.
And then this is my promise to you.
Our show is going to ruthlessly, rabidly, doggedly integrate those comments, integrate you into our programming, integrate what?
You are seeing and the topics that you care about into our questions and our ability for you to ask questions and to bring forward the chat because people know what they're getting when they come on to this show.
They know the kind of audience that we have.
And we're really forging that right now.
And so we love being that place for you.
And we're just thankful for it.
We're appreciative of you and we're thankful for you.
Here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's just grab one or two quick super chats.
Because why not?
We've been live for four hours, so why not?
For Isley777, we are all growing together.
We're here to teach and learn.
We do these deep investigations.
I would like to ask about Chester Bennington.
Thank you, Bono, again.
Yeah, okay, all right.
We talked about Bono.
This is great.
Give a like if you think the church is gone, right?
So this is what, you know, these are like half and half some of the comments, right?
Hey, at least he talked about Jesus some.
We'll see by his fruit.
Okay.
I think it's very biblical to judge people by their fruit.
Not very biblical.
It is absolutely biblical.
And so I guess we're going to have to wait and see.
That's right.
No one can be as bad as Francis.
I'm hopeful.
Give him a chance, says Missy.
Yep, very true.
This is very bad news for traditional Catholics and the faithful in China, says Bill S. All right.
Bill S. Here we go.
This guy is another Bolshevik pope.
They'll never learn anything.
This sucks.
Some people are very down bad on the pope.
Some people are down good on the pope, right?
Up good on the pope.
Trump picked the pope!
When he was there!
You could say that Trump actually memed himself a pope because Trump did the pope memes and all those popes.
Trump was like, give me an American pope.
And then they gave him an American pope.
They're probably trying to avoid tariffs on the Vatican, I think.
Don't celebrate yet.
He's from Chicago.
And then as an American Catholic, this is so exciting.
This is Malibu Angel.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
And then team...
Team Switch, Team Six Watch, sorry.
Team Six Watch says da pipe.
Da pipe, da pipe, da pipe.
All right.
Here we go.
This is a good example, right?
Right here.
So Cream Mini Cooper says, can Charlie Kirk or Scott Pressler or somebody find a candidate to run against Tom Tillis who is up for re-election in 26?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, we can.
Primary Tom Tillis.
And I love Julie Kelly.
Great show, Benny.
Thank you, Asa.
And yeah, we will definitely be doing shows to gut Tom Tillis.
Let's do it.
Let's absolutely do it.
Let's go one more here.
Pipe Bomber with the wingtip shoes and lift sneakers and sunglasses on, waved by cops.
Hmm.
Sounds like what it sounds like to me is an inside job.
So that's what it sounds like to me, right?
God bless and protect James O 'Keefe.
That's exactly right.
All right.
Here we go.
Awesome love and energy, betting, feeling.
God is with us all.
So this is a nice little lead-in to our verse of the day.
And let's just be very clear here.
No matter what denomination you are, Christ was not about denominations.
Christ was not about denominations.
Christ was about the salvation.
Jesus Christ.
He came down with a very, very simple set of rules and simple commands, and they can be read and interpreted freely by you.
I encourage you to read the scriptures.
We do it every single day on the program.
And Christ is not about denominations.
He's just not.
You can't read that into the New Testament.
And so what I would say here is what's most important is that you declare that Christ is king.
That you live your life about the tenets of the New Testament and Christ's teaching.
And that's what we say on this program as simple Christians.
That's all I am.
I'm a simple Christian, right?
I humbly read my Bible and we do our best to provide truth and light and salt to people on this show.
And so that's what we've done today.
We're thankful for you and we'll leave you with our verse of the day.
Love does not delight in evil.
But rejoices with the truth.
1 Corinthians 13, 6. We rejoice with the truth on this program every single day.
We rejoice to be able to bring the truth to you.
And we see it as our great honor and our charge and our life's mission, actually, to incorporate further this chat, this audience, into the news and into the people that are making decisions and then making the news, right?
So we're all the way.
We're down the path.
We're down the path to where we want to be.
Like, we're on our way.
This audience, the power of this audience, then creates the country that we want to live in.
And what is that country?
Well, a country that was better than the country that was left to us.
And that is a blessed generation.
And you should be part of it.
And you are part of it when you march with us here on The Benny Show.
Nothing but hearts out of the chat.
We love you.
See ya.
unidentified
See ya.
Hey, y 'all!
Shut the F up!
kayleigh mcenany
It's fatletitious season!
unidentified
Counting money and signing mortgages like the boss.
From rags to bags, I got enough to divorce my dad.
I got tips for your skinny ass.
First, don't live where you rule.
Queens rule over filth.
But they don't live in the filth they rule over.
Second, accuse those of which you are guilty of.
You don't get to be a fat politician rolling in the dough with your rolls of dough unless you sue Trump.
You can't punch me below the belt.
You can't even see my belt.
Punch up fat queens.
I says to your prime minister, I says, mate, we've got a deal.
You send us your fancy jammy dodges and custard creams.
The works.
donald j trump
No tariffs, no faff.
unidentified
In return, we will continue throwing your tea into the harbor, but at least I won't release those tapes.
donald j trump
Beautiful, innit?
unidentified
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