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March 21, 2025 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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🚨Trump SHOCK Announcement LIVE Right Now From White House With Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth
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Today, President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth are expected to deliver remarks in the Oval Office.
This comes as the Secretary announces new cuts to wasteful Pentagon spending.
pete hegseth
Today, I'm signing a memo directing the termination of over $580 million in DOD contracts and grants that do not match the priorities of this president or this department.
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Secretary Hegseth says some of those cuts will include grants for HR software, decarbonizing emissions from Navy ships, and external consulting services.
Hegseth has also invited Elon Musk to visit the Pentagon today.
Pentagon's spokesperson, Sean Parnell, will join us next hour to discuss.
And a Treasury Department official describes what it's like implementing Doge's agenda.
What was the biggest surprise that you found at that Department of Treasury?
I would say it's the disconnect between leadership and the people actually doing the work.
benny johnson
It doesn't take a lot.
It's just somebody who cares to solve these problems.
unidentified
You find contracts that are 10, 20, 30, 50 million dollars, and you just ask, like, why are we doing this?
peter doocy
And everyone's just like, I don't know.
And then you cancel it, and then nothing happens.
unidentified
It's just inertia has just taken over.
Doge has saved American taxpayers an estimated 115 billion dollars.
donald j trump
My God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against.
My God, I do.
We're not going to just meme those globalists.
We're going to meme them till they cry and use their tears to crease the treads of our takes.
unidentified
Ballroom, this is Whiplash One.
I've got the bogey in my sight.
Whiplash one, what is it?
pete hegseth
I've got no idea.
unidentified
And you are clear to engage.
Hit it.
He just went super sonic.
I got a lock.
You won't do anything!
Okay, so...
benny johnson
So, I'm anti-war, and I don't want there to be a big war announcement.
Please let this not be the announcement that we're going to war with Iran.
Please, I'm begging you, but if we do have to go to war with Iran, let it be with flying goats.
Let it be with goats on hang gliders.
If we've got to do it, let it be the most entertaining possible option.
That is Elon's razor, ladies and gentlemen, and Elon is very much taking a razor.
To our federal government today, Elon Musk and Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump will be live inside of the Oval Office.
Now, you never know what you're going to get with these things.
They haven't really given us a schedule.
They haven't really given us a breakdown of what's going to happen.
We just hear bang early this morning.
Elon and Hegseth and Donald Trump live address from the Oval.
That's big news.
This is big time.
It will be live during this show.
And so we'll see what happens next.
Yesterday, President Trump atomized the Department of Education.
Donald Trump has had a very frictious relationship with his generals.
Called General Milley a fat ass.
And Pete Hegseth put out new orders that the military has got to be in shape.
Got to be able to do a push-up.
When was the last time Mark Milley could do a push-up?
Right?
You ever seen this?
unidentified
White rage!
benny johnson
Yeah.
So that's what we're going to cover today live.
We are locked in and ready to go.
We thank you for joining us and our greatest production team on the entire internet won't miss a freaking beat.
Today is March 21st, Friday, 2025.
Today is Friday, March 21st, 2025.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
Live from the Oval Office, President Trump will be with Secretary Pete...
Hegseth soon.
Executive orders to destroy the Department of Education.
We're going to dive into that along with brand new revelations from the Kennedy documents.
I know this is the third show in a row, but we got a new document dump last night and you're going to be shocked to learn that Tucker Carlson was right.
WWE wrestler legend Kane will be joining the program.
I'm very excited about it.
To talk about Tim Walz.
Fancy Pants, Glitter Man, Tim Walz has been flipping his wrist and jazz kicking his way all the way into threatening MAGA.
He's threatening now MAGA, saying that he could kick all of our asses.
So the mayor of Knox County in Tennessee, Kane, We'll be joining this program to talk a little smackdown to Tim Walz.
It's going to be very, very fun.
Pollster Mark Mitchell will also be joining the show to tell us how Donald Trump is doing in this current environment.
I'm going to preview this by saying that President Trump has never been more popular and we have the numbers to prove it.
My name is Benny Johnson and this is The Benny Show.
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Okay.
Well, we await President Trump.
Do we have a live feed of, like, the White House at all?
There's the Pentagon's live feed?
Okay.
So here's our Pentagon live feed.
Here we go.
This event is temporarily delayed.
All right.
You know, sometimes it just pays to have guys like ALX, the great ALX.
Klein, can you put up that tweet?
That I sent this morning.
Just the group photo.
I want everybody to see the group photo.
It just makes it all possible here to do the show.
This is Killer Klein and ALX and producer Danny.
ALX saying this morning, yeah, there's just no way that they're going to be on time at 11. And, you know, don't second-guess ALX.
We call them ALX AI at the company.
There's a little squad photo there.
There's also some other exceptional members of the team.
We're just deeply appreciative, appreciative for you and the team and what we've been able to build here.
Not possible without you, the chat.
Shout out to the chat and also the grace of God.
And so for those two things, we are deeply, deeply thankful.
It's been a fun morning already because there's a brand new viral clip going around.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got a brand new FAFO clip.
This is a very unhappy walrus in the New York subway system trying to attack a man with a MAGA hat.
This is a video that you're going to love because it has just the happiest possible conclusion.
So this angry left-wing walrus comes orking after this young man who's just wearing a red MAGA cap.
And one of the happiest videos.
on the internet right now.
unidentified
That's why he won.
benny johnson
Why is so unhappy?
Bro, just let's go.
unidentified
You're okay with that.
He's a racist.
How can I be racist?
He's a racist.
I have noises.
He's a racist.
How can I be racist?
No, he's a racist.
He doesn't watch the news.
He wants me.
I'm a man to get you.
Oh, are you?
I said, why are you wearing that hat?
I don't know how long the Democrats are running through there.
Who knows how long?
benny johnson
I love this.
unidentified
Here we go.
Get it.
This is my stop.
I hope you enjoy the hat.
benny johnson
Watch this, watch this!
unidentified
Oh shit!
Bam!
benny johnson
Right on the piss-stained cement of the New York subway.
Oh, yeah.
Let's just watch it.
Can that be my...
Can this be my ringtone?
Can I have this as my ringtone?
Klein, can we find, like, the perfect...
This will be the new back...
Backdrop on my phone.
Let's just take a screenshot.
I'm going to make that my new screensaver.
Why don't we play that every morning?
Can we play that every morning on the stream?
Just to give everybody a nice little pick-me-up, right?
This is what we created Maha for, actually.
Yeah.
Send her to RFK.
Alright, let's start running some wind sprints.
Let's begin with being able to just lift your feet off the ground without falling directly on your face into a puddle of piss from some homeless guy that you wanted to be.
Probably a homeless criminal alien, ladies and gentlemen.
Getting what you deserve.
Well, gotta tell you, what we deserve as a country is the truth.
And there was another document dump.
JFK Archives.
Here's the archives where you can find them if you are at all interested.
A lot of breaking news this morning.
It's very fun to, oh yeah, make that a chat emoji.
That's exactly right.
You know what, chat?
Here's what we're going to do.
We're going to prove to you how much we love you.
We're going to send our graphic design team live during the show to make this, there it is, we're going to turn this into a chat meme emoji.
Okay?
We're going to have the ability to chat this image.
Just put this image in the chat.
Jamie's on it, okay?
The great Jamie.
She's so talented.
Graphic designer.
She's been on the program.
You love her.
Her name's Jamie Mitchell.
And she will make this into an emoji.
She'll make this into an emoji that you can drop in the chat, okay?
Why not?
This is just perfect.
What shall we call her, Killer Kline?
What shall we call this?
Fafo, okay.
The instant karma moment.
Look, I mean, just, jeez, you know, like, if you're gonna take that kind of an aggressive stance, it's funny, you better have, if you're so aggressive, if you're so filled with rage and hate and anger, and you're gonna actually physically lash out, you better be able to back it up.
You better behave.
You better not be like a fat little gremlin who can't run.
How much is it?
She does like seven steps and falls directly on her face.
unidentified
Whew.
benny johnson
Yeah.
You better...
Okay.
Well, now we got the entire meme maker wing of the company going in.
All right.
Jerry's saying he's going to do some magic here.
So we'll see what happens.
We'll keep up with the FAFO for the Fatso in New York.
All right.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaking of truth for the American people and some entertainment, for sure.
Here are the newest document dumps for the JFK documents.
Anna Polina Luna, friend of the program, saying, well, you know what?
We got 13,000 new pages released, and what do we find in them?
This document confirms that the CIA rejected the lone gun theory in the weeks after the JFK assassination.
It's called the Donald Keith Memo.
It's a little strange.
Uh, uh, okay.
Somebody clearly didn't get the memo at the CIA.
You can read here on this secret document dated 1977 about how impossible it would be from the CIA's perspective for the murderer to be a lone gunman.
That's a little strange, right?
So let's see here.
At the time of the Kennedy murder, I was on suspension from active duty.
I had left my financial economy.
Let's see here.
unidentified
Let's see here.
benny johnson
Talking about Cuban involvement, potentially, in the Kennedy murder.
You never know what kind of stuff is just put out there to also be a lie.
How much of this is deception?
Where they're trying to send the public on a different path.
This is all about Cuban agents and all about Cuban information and potential Cuban exiles that are angry about President Kennedy and how it went down with Cuba.
So what was it exactly?
Yeah.
It was the forever war department.
Kennedy was going to end the wars.
This is what we're going to hear about from Pete Hegseth today.
Please don't go to war.
Please don't say, please don't announce war with Iran, no matter what we do.
But yeah, I mean, very interesting.
Also, you know, just so happened to confirm that there is a break-in at the Watergate and that they were setting up Nixon for a fall.
Tucker Carlson right again.
Here we go.
The 2025 release under the President John F. Kennedy assassination record.
Act of 1992.
Just in the new JFK files is an entry into Watergate.
Why is this significant?
Buckle up.
Tucker Carlson explains.
Nixon met with then CIA director Richard Helms at the White House.
During the conversation he recorded, Nixon suggested he wants to know who shot John, meaning President John F. Kennedy.
Nixon further implied that the CIA was directly involved in Kennedy's assassination, which we now know that it was.
It really makes you think.
Oh boy, here we go.
For eyes only, the entry into the Democrat National Headquarters.
It's incredible.
This entire thing, all of the people who broke into the Watergate were connected to the CIA.
Some of them directly, some of them indirectly.
The entire thing was an op in order to trap Nixon.
And Nixon insisted on knowing who shot John in a recorded tape.
We have the audio, but we'd like to play you a little bit of what Tucker said at the time, because, well, we're massive Tucker fans, and we like proving Tucker right, even if it's from 18 months ago.
Ladies and gentlemen, Tucker Carlson.
With this reporting, remember, he was getting so...
Tucker was sort of twisting around the axle of this JFK assassination.
He was hitting up CIA sources.
He was asking all the right questions, and then suddenly Tucker goes bye-bye at Fox News.
It really makes you wonder.
These were the times, this was the final reporting of Tucker Carlson before he got fired.
It really makes you wonder, right, exactly who's in control.
Here's Tucker Carlson explaining that this, ladies and gentlemen, is a CIA operation against Richard Nixon, the second in a decade where the CIA took out A sitting American president.
tucker carlson
So if you want to understand, if you really want to understand how the American government actually works at the highest levels, and if you want to know why they don't teach history anymore, one thing you should know is that the most popular president in American history was Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon.
Yet somehow, without a single vote being cast by a single American voter, Richard Nixon was kicked out of office and replaced by the only unelected president in American history.
So we went from the most popular president to a president nobody voted for.
Wait a minute, you may ask.
Why didn't I know that?
Wasn't Richard Nixon a criminal?
Wasn't he despised by all decent people?
No, he wasn't.
In fact, if any president could claim to be the people's choice, it was Richard Nixon.
Richard Nixon was re-elected in 1972 by the largest margin of the popular vote ever recorded before or since.
Nixon got 17 million more votes than his opponent.
Less than two years later, he was gone.
He was forced to resign.
And in his place, an obedient servant of the federal agencies called Gerald Ford took over the White House.
How did that happen?
Well, it's a long story, but here are the highlights, and they tell you a lot.
Richard Nixon believed that elements in the federal bureaucracy were working to undermine the American system of government and had been doing that for a long time.
He often said that.
He was absolutely right.
On June 23, 1972, Nixon met with the then-CIA director Richard Helms at the White House.
During the conversation, which thankfully was tape-recorded, Nixon suggested he knew, quote, who shot John, meaning President John F. Kennedy.
Nixon further implied that the CIA was directly involved in Kennedy's assassination, which we now know it was.
Helms' telling response?
Total silence.
But for Nixon, it didn't matter because it was already over.
Four days before, on June 19th, the Washington Post had published the first of many stories about a break-in at the Watergate office building.
Unbeknownst to Nixon and unreported by the Washington Post, four of the five burglars worked for the CIA.
The first of many dishonest Watergate stories was written by a 29-year-old Metro reporter called Bob Woodward.
Who exactly was Bob Woodward?
Well, he wasn't a journalist.
Bob Woodward had no background whatsoever in the news business.
Instead, Bob Woodward came directly from the classified areas of the federal government.
Shortly before Watergate, Woodward was a naval officer at the Pentagon.
He had a top-secret clearance.
He worked regularly with the intel agencies.
At times, Woodward was even detailed to the Nixon White House, where he interacted with Richard Nixon's top aides.
Soon after leaving the Navy for reasons that have never been clear, Woodward was hired by the most powerful news outlet in Washington and assigned the biggest story in the country.
And just to make it crystal clear what was actually happening, Woodward's main source for his Watergate series was the deputy director of the FBI, Mark Felt.
And Mark Felt ran, and we're not making this up, the FBI's COINTELPRO program, which was designed to secretly discredit political actors the federal agencies wanted to destroy.
People like Richard Nixon.
And at the same time, those same agencies were also working to take down Nixon's elected vice president, Spiro Agnew.
In the fall of 1973, Agnew was indicted for tax evasion and forced to resign.
His replacement was a colorless congressman from Grand Rapids called Gerald Ford.
What was Ford's qualification for the job?
Well, he had served on the Warren Commission, which absolved the CIA of responsibility for President Kennedy's murder.
Nixon was strong-armed into accepting Gerald Ford by Democrats in Congress.
We gave Nixon no choice but Ford, Speaker of the House Carl Albert later boasted.
Eight months later, Gerald Ford of the Warren Commission was the President of the United States.
See how that works?
So those are the facts.
Not speculation.
All of that actually happened.
None of it's secret.
Most of it actually is on Wikipedia.
But no mainstream news organization has ever told that story.
It's so obvious, yet it's intentionally ignored.
And as a result, permanent Washington remains in charge of our political system.
Unelected lifers in the federal agencies make the biggest decisions in American government and crush anyone who tries to rein them in.
And in the process, our democracy becomes a joke.
benny johnson
It's a longer clip.
It's a three-minute clip.
And we hate doing that, meaning it's important for us to keep the show chop-chop.
unidentified
But it's so crystallized perfectly by Tucker.
benny johnson
We just gotta let her go.
It's just lay it all out.
Explain Watergate in a way that had blew my mind back when Tucker did this show, what, in 2022?
Changed forever the way that I saw American history.
It's not just me.
Look at this from last week.
Bill Murray.
Of course you know Bill Murray.
One of the most legendary comedians and actors of our time.
He's still kicking.
He's a ghostbuster.
And, well, he's destroying ghosts.
The fabrication that Bob Woodward is anything other than a wretched little servant of the deep state.
Bill Murray quips that Bob Woodward framed Richard Nixon.
What?
Oh, yeah.
Framed Richard Nixon with the help of the FBI and the CIA because he was asking about John F. Kennedy and the murder of John.
They were friends, by the way.
Roger Stone was on the show earlier this week talking about the deep bond between Nixon and Kennedy.
And so now we see here inside of the Kennedy assassination documents this backgrounder note on the break-in at Watergate.
Five men were arrested at Watergate at 2 a.m.
After having been discovered breaking into the Democrat National Convention headquarters, Nixon had already won re-election by a landslide.
Why did they need to break into the DNC?
The entire thing was an op.
The whole thing was a setup.
And we don't have enough time to get into it right now, but it's clear that Nixon was asking all of the wrong questions.
It's amazing.
This is exactly what President Trump is up against right now.
And it is a military weight nexus that runs these operations.
So we're very interested to hear what Pete Hegseth says from his seat at the Pentagon in what we assume to be just a moment because now we have the holding screen here.
We will begin shortly is what the Pentagon screen says.
So we look forward to hearing from Trump.
And Pete Hegseth inside of the White House right now.
A lot of news out of the White House right now.
Elon Musk to hunt down Pentagon leakers as Trump and Pete Hegseth reveal new Top Gun jet.
Freaking awesome.
Come on.
Donald Trump, by the way, I don't know if we have this truth, but you've got to get it for me.
Saying that the Tesla terrorists are going to be sent to El Salvador.
Do we have that?
Alex, grab me that.
Come on!
It's perfect!
So the counterterrorism detention center, that famous prison in El Salvador where we're now sending criminal aliens, there are three people that we know of right now.
I think there's more.
But three people who are being charged with terrorism charges.
And there are beautiful photos.
Wow, I wonder what they all have in common.
It really makes you wonder.
Here they have been charged.
They've faced 20 years, but they have a minimum of five years in federal prison.
They have mandatory minimums for these charges.
They're effed, all right?
President Trump saying this morning, why not send them down to El Salvador?
I'm sure these three will get along beautifully inside of that prison with all the gang members with the teardrops tattooed on their faces.
I look forward to watching these sick terrorist thugs get 20 years jail sentences for what they're doing to Elon Musk and Tesla.
Perhaps they could serve them in the prisons of El Salvador, which has become recently famous for such lovely conditions.
Come on, man.
Oh, that's beautiful.
Give me some of the fun footage of those prisons.
There have been quite a bit.
There's been quite a bit published recently.
Anyway, leaking is a big no-no.
Apparently, individuals at the Pentagon, which is just an absolute rat's nest, have been leaking about what's going on.
Elon Musk walking into the Pentagon early this morning.
Elon Musk promised to hunt down the leakers at the Pentagon.
That allegedly leaked false news about why he was there.
Billionaire Doge head Elon Musk says he's going to find the Defense Department leakers that comes as President Donald Trump vehemently denied a New York Times report citing sources that claim first buddy Elon Musk was going to the Pentagon Friday for a briefing from Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth on preparations of war with China.
We're going to do this again.
We're really going to do this again.
You know, I can get an unnamed source to tell me anything I want.
I can get an unnamed source right now.
To tell me that Jill Biden actually plays Joe Biden as a human sock puppy.
That there's a Joe Biden skin suit that Jill Biden puts on.
Here we go.
Hold on.
Here we go.
Live from the White House.
President Trump and Pete Hegseth live.
This is live.
Let's go.
donald j trump
We're going to educate the children in their states where they can get a proper education.
The numbers are horrible the way it is.
And we're going to make a move that's very big.
I don't think it's even risky a little bit.
I think it's going to be amazing.
It should have been done years ago.
They've been talking about doing it for many years, but nobody ever got it off.
But we did.
And there was great excitement and great acceptance of it by almost everybody, including a lot of Democrats, actually.
I do want to say that I've decided that the SBA, the Small Business Administration, headed by Kelly Loeffler, who's a terrific person, We'll handle all of the student loan portfolio.
We have a portfolio that's very large, lots of loans.
Tens of thousands of loans.
Pretty complicated deal.
And that's coming out of the Department of Education immediately, and it's going to be headed up by Kelly Loeffler at SBA.
They're all set for it.
They're waiting for it.
It'll be serviced much better than it has in the past.
It's been a mess.
And also, Bobby Kennedy, the Health and Human Services, will be handling special needs and all of the nutrition programs and everything else.
Rather complex, but that's going to be headed by and handled by Health and Human Services.
So I think that'll work out very well.
Those two elements will be taken out of the Department of Education.
And then all we have to do is get the students to...
Get guidance from the people that love them and cherish them, including their parents, by the way, who will be totally involved in their education along with the boards and the governors of the states.
And it's going to be a great situation.
I guarantee that in a few years from now, I hope I'm going to be around to see it, but I think we're going to see a lot of it.
I think that you're going to have tremendous results.
You're going to have results like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, a lot of the...
The countries that do so well, I think you're going to have a lot of those results.
If you look at Iowa and Indiana and Idaho, so many places that run so well.
Florida, Texas, big ones.
You're going to have great education, much better than it is now at half the cost.
And we're not even doing it as a cost item, although you will save probably half, maybe more than that.
And you're not going to be at the bottom of the list.
You're going to be much higher.
And maybe you'll be...
I will guarantee some of the states will be at the top of the list.
They'll be comparable or better than these number one, two, three, four, five countries, the countries that are in the top five positions.
So to me, it's very exciting, and it's been received very well.
So I just wanted to tell you about the student loans and special needs.
But we're here for a reason today that is very exciting, and I'm thrilled to announce that.
At my direction, the United States Air Force is moving forward with the world's first sixth-generation fighter jet, number six, sixth generation.
Nothing in the world comes even close to it, and it'll be known as the F-47.
The generals picked a title, and it's a beautiful number, F-47.
It's something...
The likes of which nobody has seen before in terms of all of the attributes of a fighter jet.
There's never been anything even close to it from speed to maneuverability to what it can have to payload.
And this has been in the works for a long period of time.
After a rigorous and thorough competition between some of America's top aerospace companies, the Air Force.
He's going to be awarding the contract for the next generation air dominance platform to Boeing.
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As you know, it was highly competed for.
donald j trump
There was a lot of competition, generals, and it's been going on for a long time.
Very, very tough competition, but this plane has produced numbers that nobody's ever seen before.
The F-47 will be the most advanced, most capable, most lethal aircraft ever built.
An experimental version of the plane has secretly been flying for almost five years, and we're confident that it massively overpowers the capabilities of any other nation.
There's no other nation.
We know every other plane.
I've seen every one of them.
And it's not even close.
This is the next level.
You know, level five is good.
This is level six, they say.
The F-47 is equipped with state-of-the-art stealth technology.
It's virtually unseeable.
And unprecedented power.
It's got the most power of any jet of its kind ever made.
Maneuverability, likewise, there's never been anything like it, despite the power and speed.
Its speed is top.
It's over two, which is something that you don't hear very often.
America's enemies will never see it coming.
Hopefully we won't have to use it for that purpose, but you have to have it.
And if it ever happens, they won't know what the hell hit them.
A new fleet of these magnificent planes will be built and in the air during my administration for the next couple of years.
It's ready to go.
They've already built much of what has to be built in terms of production, including the sheds.
We'll ensure that the USA continues to dominate the skies.
We're given an order for a lot.
We can't tell you the price because it would give way to some of the technology and some of the size of the good-sized plane.
This contract also represents a historic investment in our defense industrial base, helping to keep America at the cutting edge of aerospace and technology.
Our allies are.
Calling constantly, they want to buy them also, and certain allies will be selling them, perhaps toned-down versions.
We like to tone them down about 10%, which probably makes sense, because someday maybe they're not our allies, right?
But I would like to ask Secretary Hegseth, who's doing a fantastic job.
He's really been very inspiring in so many ways, and I must say that before he speaks, we have had record People wanting to join our military in the last two and a half months, literally since this, I think probably since the election, November 5th, but especially since we came to office and since I announced Pete.
He's young, he's smart, he's strong, he loves it, and they love him.
But we've had record numbers of people wanting to join our military.
Now, if you go back six months, it was the exact opposite.
You had record numbers of people not wanting to join the military.
Now you have record numbers of people wanting to be in our military.
And that's a really, that's a great idea.
That shows you we're really on the right track.
So Pete, maybe say a few words.
pete hegseth
Sure.
Well, Mr. President, this is a big day.
This is a big day for our warfighters.
This is a big day for our country, a big day in the world.
The name of this program is The Next Generation of Air Dominance.
And Mr. President, because of your leadership, Your clarity.
America is going to have generations in the future of air dominance because of this sixth generation fighter.
We've had the F-15, we had the F-16, the F-18, the F-22, the F-35.
Now we have the F-47, which sends a very direct, clear message to our allies that we're not going anywhere.
And to our enemies that we will be able to project power around the globe unimpeded for generations to come.
Mr. President, this is a gift to my kids and your kids, to my grandkids and your grandkids.
This is a historic investment in the American military, in the American industrial base, in American industry that will help revive the warrior ethos inside our military, which we're doing.
Rebuild our military, which the previous administration did not do, by the way, Mr. President.
They paused this program and were prepared to potentially scrap it.
We know this is cheaper, longer range, and more stealthy.
President Trump said we're reviving it and we're doing it.
And then we are also going to reestablish deterrence.
Under the previous administration, we looked like fools.
Not anymore.
President Trump has reestablished American leadership.
The F-47 is part of it.
And, Mr. President, thank you.
We're having the courage to do it and leading the way for all our warfighters.
donald j trump
Thank you very much, Pete.
One of the things I will say, but the generals are going to speak in just a couple of seconds, but this plane flies with drones.
It flies with many, many drones, as many as you want, and it's a technology that's new, but it doesn't fly by itself.
It flies with many drones, as many as we want, and that's something that no other plane...
So I'd like to introduce, if I might, Air Force Chief of Staff, General David Alvin, and also General Dale White, two incredible people that I've known over the years, but I got to know really well over the last few months.
And would you say a few words, please, General?
unidentified
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
Mr. President, Mr. Secretary, thank you so much for your unwavering commitment to our military.
I will say that this is a big day.
This is a big day for our United States Air Force as well.
You know, air dominance is not a birthright, but it's become synonymous with American air power.
But air dominance needs to be earned every single day.
And since the earliest days of aerial warfare, brave American airmen have jumped into their machines, taken to the air, and they've cleared the skies.
And whether that be clearing the skies so we can rain down destruction on our enemies from above, or we can clear the path to the ground forces below, that's been our commitment to the fight, and that's really been our promise to America.
And with this F47 as the crown jewel in the next-generation air dominance family of systems, we're going to be able to keep that promise well into the future.
I also want to thank everyone from industry and within government, our engineers, who have worked tirelessly on this program to bring it where we are right now today.
This shows that American talent, American skill, and American determination are second to none because this platform is second to none.
We believe that this provides more lethality, it provides more capability, more modernized capability in a way that is built to adapt.
This, along with our collaborative combat aircraft, the President talked about with the drones, this is allowing us to look into the future and unlock the magic that is human machine teaming.
And as we do that, we're going to write the next generation of modern aerial warfare with this.
This enables us to do this.
The manner in which we put this program together puts more control in the hands of the government, so we can update and adapt at the speed of relevance, at the speed of technology, not at the speed of earwriters.
This is more Air Force.
This is more options for the President.
We say as our mission in the United States Air Force is to fly, fight, and win air power anytime, anywhere.
If you want to go anywhere, you have to have a platform that gets you anywhere.
This provides the President options from the very one end, which is A quick response and then we can get right back into fighting stance without having to deploy troops that are going to take maybe months and cost more lives.
We can be back in fighting stance and maybe we restore that deterrence.
All the way to decisive victory as part of a joint force that is the most lethal and capable military ever in our history.
That's what we provide now, and this allows us to provide it into the future.
It's more deterrence, more capability.
It's what peace through strength looks like in the future, Mr. President.
So we're very proud of that.
And all we can say is, on behalf of the United States Air Force, let's deliver.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Chairman.
Would you like to say something?
unidentified
No, sir, I'll just don't know what the chief said.
donald j trump
He knows what to do.
He knows who the boss is.
peter doocy
That's exactly right.
unidentified
Your security is what it's all about.
That's great.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
Great job.
We've worked together long and hard on this, and this was a big secret.
In fact, we don't show too much of the blame for that reason.
See what we show?
You see how beautiful that is, but that's just a very small part of it.
I wasn't surprised.
I was wondering how much are you going to show if they came in with that?
You see a wheel in the front?
That's about it.
Any questions?
peter doocy
Mr. President Trump, 80,000 pages of documents is a lot to sift through.
Can you just tell us who killed Kennedy?
donald j trump
Well, you know, I was given the task of...
Releasing that because many presidents have gone through it and they haven't released.
And I said, release.
We even released Social Security numbers.
I didn't want anything deleted.
They said, so what about Social Security?
People long gone, but they're long gone, so I can't imagine.
But I said, if you don't delete it, if you do delete it, we have people going to say, why did you delete it?
There's something in there.
So we gave Social Security and we gave everything.
And the rest is for you to look at, Peter.
You're going to see whether or not you see anything.
But we've given it.
We're doing it with Dr. Martin Luther King, too.
They're preparing all of that.
They're going to release everything.
unidentified
And whoever else they want.
donald j trump
I mean, you know, we have nothing.
We really have nothing to hide.
We shouldn't have.
You know, when a lot of time goes by.
unidentified
But with the Kenny Files, in particular, they were...
donald j trump
Going crazy on it.
I don't think there's anything that's earth-shattering, but you'll have to make that determination.
In those, you know, it's 80,000.
It's actually 88,000.
And we have some additional things, as you know, come out today.
And for that, you can go to the offices and you can see whatever you want to see.
Everything is out there, totally open.
The additional stuff is available later on today.
You go over to the offices and you can have it immediately.
And you'll make a determination.
peter doocy
And on something else, these Trendy Aragua guys, because of your executive order, they are designated as foreign terrorists.
If ISIS or Al-Qaeda foreign terrorists were operating here in the United States, cops would probably be shooting first and asking questions later.
And so what is the difference between terrorists, between somebody like an ISIS or an Al-Qaeda operative versus a MS-13 or Trendy Aragua?
donald j trump
Well, these are people that focus on destroying people in their homes.
They're not as international in that sense.
They're a group of thugs.
They come from Venezuela.
They come from the prisons of Venezuela.
They're very, very dangerous people.
But they didn't look so dangerous when the guards took care of the situation from El Salvador.
And I want to thank the president.
He's a friend of mine.
He's done a great job.
I just can't imagine that the Democrats are taking this issue where they want to have them back.
You know, so now they have men playing in women's sports.
They have transgender for everyone.
They have open borders.
They have all of their crazy policies that are, I think, 95.5, not 90.10, okay?
And their new policy is, let's bring Trin de Aragua back into our country.
Let's bring the worst.
These are the worst gang members there are.
They looked amazingly frail, though.
By the way they were handled, it's very amazing.
You know, when they were in Colorado cutting the fingers off a man because he made a phone call to the police, they seemed a lot tougher then than they did when they were having their heads shaved and they were in shackles.
They're tough people.
They're bad people.
We don't want them in our country.
We can't let a judge say that he wants them.
You know, he didn't run for president.
He didn't get much more than 80 million votes.
And we just can't let that happen.
It'd be so bad for our country.
I won on the basis of getting criminals out of our country that were let in.
It was called unforced error.
They were let in by Biden, incompetently let in, and let in by the millions, actually.
21 million people.
I believe it's 21 million.
And that's not even including the gotaways, but these are rough people.
We want him out of our country.
And I won the election based at least partly on that.
And that's a big part, yeah?
unidentified
I don't know if you saw this.
peter doocy
Tim Walls is now saying about Trump supporters, and forgive me, I'm just reading a quote from Tim Walls, I think I could kick most of their ass.
donald j trump
Oh boy, he'd be in trouble.
peter doocy
Is there any way to melt?
donald j trump
Well, he's a loser.
He lost an election.
He played a part.
You know, usually a vice president doesn't play a part, they say.
I think Tim played a part.
I think he was so bad that he hurt her.
But she hurt herself, and Joe hurt them both.
They didn't have a great group, but I would probably put him at the bottom of the group.
peter doocy
Have you heard that Biden wants to get back involved for Democratic politicians fundraising and campaigning against your policies?
What do you think of that?
donald j trump
I hope so.
unidentified
Mr. President, there are several families, Mr. President, there are families from some of the people who are with La Nación, they're from Argentina.
There are families from some of the people that were on those flights to El Salvador that claim that they're not criminals, they're not members of Tenderagua, of MSF 13. What can you tell them and what guarantees can you give them that everyone in those planes were actual criminals, terrorists, as you said?
donald j trump
Well, I was told that they went through a very strong vetting process and that that will also be continuing in...
El Salvador.
And if there's anything like that, we would certainly want to find out.
But these were a bad group.
This was a bad group, and they were in bad areas, and they were with a lot of other people that were absolutely killers, murderers, and people that were really bad, with the worst records you've ever seen.
But we will continue that process, absolutely.
We don't want to make that kind of a mistake.
unidentified
Is the U.S. planning to give up the position of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander?
And if so, why?
donald j trump
NATO is something that I say.
NATO was gone until I came along.
In fact, the previous Secretary General, very good man.
Both of them are good.
The current man is fantastic.
But both of them have said, if it wasn't for Trump, you wouldn't even have a NATO because we were paying...
The cost of almost all of the countries.
And now they're paying.
I said, we're not going to do this.
We're not going to continue.
You hurt us on trade.
You do bad things on trade.
And then on top of it, we're supposed to pay for your military.
And because of what I did, hundreds of billions of dollars flowed into NATO by countries that just weren't paying.
They were delinquent.
They weren't paying their bills.
So NATO is solid.
They're strong.
unidentified
But they have to treat us fairly.
donald j trump
Because, look, without us, NATO is not the same.
And I can tell you I've been having very good discussions, as you know, with President Zelensky and with President Putin.
And President Putin will tell you that without the United States, he wouldn't be worried.
But he is worried when the United States is involved.
And I have to tell you, I've dealt very well with both gentlemen, and we have...
I think we have the confines of a deal.
I hope we have the confines of a deal.
I'm doing it for two reasons.
Number one, and by far most importantly, thousands of young people, and they're not American people, they're Russian and they're Ukrainian, are being killed every week, thousands a week.
And also, the United States has paid, because of Biden, $350 billion on a war that should have never happened.
If we had a competent president in this...
Sitting right here, that war would have never happened.
It would have absolutely never happened with me.
And it didn't happen.
For four years, it didn't happen.
unidentified
Mr. President, do you think you have the authority, the power to round up people, deport them, and then you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence against them?
donald j trump
Well, that's what the law says, and that's what our country needs, because we were, unfortunately, they allowed...
Millions of people to come into our country, totally unvetted, totally unchecked.
So you ought to ask, did he have the authority to allow millions of people?
Did Biden have the authority to do something that's unthinkable?
Have open borders where millions of people poured into our country, totally unvetted and totally unchecked, just as you would say.
And many of those people were criminals.
Many of them were from jails and prisons and mental institutions and gang members and drug dealers.
And very dangerous people.
Many were murderers.
We have 11,088 that we know of murderers.
They've murdered.
Of that number, at least half killed more than one person.
They're in our country.
unidentified
They're in a location near you.
donald j trump
Biden allowed that to happen to our country and his people that really ran the country.
And the person that...
I think we ought to find out who that was because I guess that was the real president.
So when you ask me if we have the authority, did Biden have the authority to allow millions of people to come into our country?
Many of these people hardened criminals at the top of the line who have caused tremendous damage in our country.
You see them in New York City fighting with our police.
I mean, literally having fistfights in the street with our police.
These are tough, hard criminals.
Many of them came out of jails, and not just South America, from all over the world.
They came out from Africa, from the Congo.
They came out from Asia.
unidentified
Not just South America, but many from South America.
donald j trump
These are hard, tough criminals, and we have to get them out.
And a judge sitting behind a bench someplace got a nice appointment.
You can't take that away from the people that are responsible.
Now, in this case, Marco Rubio has...
A lot of big decisions to make.
And he's a fantastic person, a great man.
I think he'll be our best.
I think he has a chance to be our best Secretary of State.
He's been doing incredible.
He works so hard.
He's gone to so many different countries already.
And he's got the authority to get bad people out of our country.
And you can't stop that with a judge sitting behind a bench that has no idea what goes on, who happens to be a radical left.
Lunatic.
peter doocy
You guys are denying this New York Times report that Elon Musk was going to be shown a 20 to 30 page presentation about a theoretical war plan against China.
Why not just show it to Elon?
donald j trump
Because I don't want to show it to anybody.
You know, you're talking about a potential war with China.
I deal with these people all the time, and I'm dealing with Pete.
I'm dealing with these gentlemen on numerous different airplane purchases, and I think they're all going to be great.
But I don't want other people, anybody, seeing potential war with China.
We don't want to have a potential war with China, but I can tell you, if we did, we're very well equipped to handle it.
But I don't want to show that to anybody, but certainly you wouldn't show it to a businessman who is helping us so much.
He's a great patriot.
He's taken...
He's paying a big price for helping us cut costs, and he's doing a great job.
He's finding tremendous waste, fraud, and abuse.
But I certainly wouldn't want, you know, Elon has businesses in China, and he would be susceptible, perhaps, to that.
But it was such a fake story.
The New York Times is just as fake as CNN and MSDNC.
And anybody who read that story, people laughed at that story.
Who would do such a thing?
And the first thing I did is I called Susie, and I called Pete, I said, is there any truth to that?
And they said, it's ridiculous.
Now, he's over there to talk about costs.
You might want to address that, Pete.
But Elon was over there today to address costs.
unidentified
Doge.
donald j trump
A thing called Doge, which you've heard about.
pete hegseth
That's exactly right, Mr. President.
You pointed out it was a fake story.
We pointed out it was.
It was meant to sort of undermine whatever relationship the Pentagon has with Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is a patriot.
Elon Musk is an innovator.
Elon Musk provides a lot of capabilities our government and our military rely on, and I'm grateful for that.
We welcomed him today to the Pentagon to talk about Doge, to talk about efficiencies, to talk about innovations.
It was a great informal conversation.
The rest of that reporting was fake.
There was no war plans.
There was no Chinese war plans.
There was no secret plans.
That's not what we were doing at the Pentagon.
donald j trump
I might add that I think Elon, if they ever wanted to do that, I think Elon wouldn't do it.
I think he wouldn't do it.
He wouldn't want to put himself in that position.
But if you read what's out of the New York Times, it's such a dishonest newspaper.
It's such garbage.
It's, you know, it used to be called all the news that's fit to print.
Well, it's all the news that's not fit to print.
They have fake sources or they don't have sources.
I think they make most of it up.
But this was a made up story by the New York Times.
I call it the failing.
It's a failing newspaper.
It's failing.
And they shouldn't do that.
We do need honest...
Journalism.
You know, we've made such big strides over the last two months, but we just need honest journalism, and we don't have it.
When you have a CNN, you have to watch these people every once in a while just to see where they're coming from, and it's so dishonest.
MSNBC is, I think, probably worse, and they're both doing horribly in the ratings.
I think they're going to be turned off.
They're not doing any ratings.
You're doing well in the rings.
unidentified
Thank you all.
I'm just going to say, Is there anything that they can do to stop April 2nd or to roll back the tariffs that you put on China already?
donald j trump
Well, we can talk, but basically, I call April 2nd.
I would have made it April 1st, but I didn't want to be April Fool's Day because nobody would believe what I said.
And they do believe me.
April 2nd is going to be Liberation Day for America.
We've been ripped off by every country in the world, friend and foe.
We've been ripped off on trade.
We've been ripped off on military.
We protect people and they don't do anything for us.
It's just so unfair for years and years.
And now some of that money is going to be coming back to us in the form of tariffs there.
I mean, tens of billions.
It's going to be numbers like nobody's ever seen.
So NVIDIA announced today, you saw that, hundreds of billions of dollars of investment.
The biggest chipmaker in the world announced hundreds of billions of dollars of investment.
Hundreds of billions.
Not millions, but billions.
They're all coming here.
Apple just announced $500 billion worth.
They're going to build plants here.
They built their plants in China.
They're going to build them here.
And they're starting immediately.
We have investment, the likes of which this country has never seen, already announced.
And they all want to have news conferences.
I don't have enough time to have that many news conferences.
But I would say so far, at least $4 trillion.
$4 trillion is coming in.
Car companies, very importantly, a lot of the car companies that we're going to build in Mexico or Canada are now building here.
Because I don't want cars from Canada.
I don't want cars from Mexico.
If they want to do it, it's fine.
But I want the car companies to build here.
You know, they were building in Mexico.
Three plants, big plants, really big plants.
And then we're going to sell the cars right across the border.
We wouldn't have the jobs.
We wouldn't have the profits.
We wouldn't get the taxes.
We'd get nothing.
All we get is unemployment and empty factories.
Those days are over.
So now those three places are going to build here, but many more than that.
We have a big one.
Honda is building, just announced, a really big plant in Indiana.
Great state.
Smart place to build.
And we have many car companies coming here.
The steel mills.
Are going to be booming.
Going to be booming.
Many other things come with that.
But we need that for defense.
You know, there are certain things you have to have.
You have to have steel.
We would have had, if I didn't do in my first term tariffs to stop the onslaught because they were dumping steel in order to destroy our steel plants.
If I didn't do 50% and even 100% in certain cases tariffs on steel.
You wouldn't have a steel plant in the United States.
And Biden was unable to get rid of those tariffs because they threw off so much money that his numbers, which didn't work anyway, because his numbers were terrible.
What he did, the way he spent money was so horrible.
And what he allowed to happen to energy.
That's the other thing.
Energy is going to be like it's never been before, Mr. Vice President.
Do you have anything to say while you're here?
unidentified
No, sir.
donald j trump
I'm a good vice president.
peter doocy
I'm just here to watch the show, sir.
I think airplanes are pretty cool, so I wanted to check this out.
unidentified
The airplane's cool.
donald j trump
It is cool.
unidentified
What is it that China can do to take off the trademark at this point, though?
donald j trump
Well, I'll be speaking to President Xi.
I have a great relationship with him.
We're going to have a very good relationship.
But we have a trillion-dollar deficit because of Biden with President Xi.
More than that.
I mean, I've heard $1.2 trillion.
We have a deficit.
I've explained that to President Xi.
We also have a problem where he's allowing fentanyl to be sent into Mexico and then cross the border and, you know, killing.
I think the number is much higher than the 125, 115.
I think it's closer to 300,000 people a year.
And so that's a problem.
But they have a tremendous surplus against the United States, and we don't want that.
unidentified
Why do you want to consider how many countries have come to you asking for exceptions on tariffs?
Is that something that is under consideration?
donald j trump
Well, people are coming to me and talking about tariffs, and a lot of people are asking me if they could have exceptions.
And once you do that for one, you have to do that for all.
So, I mean, generally, I did something, interestingly, during two weeks ago.
I gave the American car companies a break because it would have been unfair if I didn't.
And everybody said, oh, he changed his mind on tariffs.
I didn't change my mind.
I helped.
Are, you know, sort of big three, big four.
I helped some of the American companies.
And instead of taking it properly, they said, oh, he changed it.
I don't change.
But the word flexibility is an important word.
Sometimes there's flexibility.
So there'll be flexibility.
But basically, it's reciprocal.
So that if China is charging us 50 percent or 30 percent or 20 percent, and I don't mean China, I mean anybody, any country, Canada.
Nobody knows that Canada's charging our dairy farmers.
They have 270% tariffs.
Nobody knows that.
Nobody knows that.
They have up to 400%.
They have a couple of tariffs at 400%.
Nobody knows that.
Nobody talks about that.
And remember, with Canada, we don't need their cars.
We don't need their lumber.
We don't need their energy.
We don't need anything from Canada.
And yet it costs us $200 billion a year in subsidy to keep Canada afloat.
So when I say they should be a state, I mean that.
I really mean that.
Because we can't be expected to carry a country that is right next to us on our border.
It would be a great state.
It would be a cherished state.
The taxes for Canadian citizens would go down in less than half.
They don't spend money on military because they think we're going to protect them.
There are many things that they do, like icebreakers.
They want us to provide icebreakers for them.
Oh, that's wonderful.
So, Canada, they're very tough traders, too.
I want to just tell you, all the people, they're tough traders.
They trade very tough.
And, you know, the expression I use is some people don't have the cards.
I used that expression about a week and a half ago, right?
somebody was negotiating who didn't have the cards, who's now, I think, saying that he wants to do it.
And I think we're going to have a big deal on that very special something.
We've got to make a deal on that.
But Canada has been a very nasty negotiator against the United States, took advantage of the United States for a long time.
peter doocy
But nobody's I don't think I've heard you say this in all of the talk about Canada becoming the 51st state.
Are you concerned that if they became the 51st state?
They would be a very, very blue state.
Very, very big and very, very blue.
donald j trump
No, they might be, but it would, you know, you have that artificial line that goes, that straight artifact that looked like it was drawn by a ruler.
Somebody with a, I don't mean a ruler like a king, I mean like a ruler like a ruler.
This way.
And it's just an artificial line that was drawn in the sand or in the ice.
You add that to this country, what a beautiful landmass, the most beautiful landmass anywhere in the world.
And it was just cut off for whatever reason.
It would be great.
Now, is it liberal?
Maybe.
But, you know, a conservative, until I got involved, because I don't care who wins up there.
Frankly, probably would do better with a liberal than a conservative, if you want to know the truth.
But just a little while ago, before I got involved and totally changed the election, which I don't care about.
Probably it's our advantage, actually.
But the Conservative was leading against, I call him Governor Trudeau.
The Conservative was leading by 35 points.
So I don't know about that.
I think Canada is a place like a lot of other places.
If you have a good candidate, the candidate's going to win.
peter doocy
The two astronauts that you just helped save from space, they didn't get any overtime pay for all that extra time.
They got $5 a day per diem.
For 286 days, that is $1,430 in extra pay.
Is there anything the administration can do to get them, to make them whole?
donald j trump
Well, nobody's ever lent you this to me.
If I have to, I'll pay it out of my own pocket, okay?
unidentified
I'll get it for you.
donald j trump
Is that all?
That's not a lie.
For what they had to go through.
And I want to thank Elon Musk, by the way, because...
Think if we don't have him.
You know, there's only so long, even though they're in the capsule up there, that the body starts to deteriorate after 9 or 10 months and gets really bad after 14, 15 months with the bones and the blood and all the things that you've been reporting on very well.
And if we don't have Elon, they could be up there a long time.
Who else is going to get him?
And I just want to thank him.
He's going through a lot, what they're doing to him.
And these people are going to be caught, and they're going to be prosecuted.
And from what they tell me, I see this just by watching your programs and reading the news, but from what they tell me, they could get 20 years in jail, and they'll get it.
I'll tell you, there's going to be no leniency, and there'll be no pardons.
I can tell you that right now.
peter doocy
And you said this morning, 20 years in jail, and then maybe they'll go to one of these prisons in El Salvador.
Judges have been issuing injunctions.
It would be easier or harder to send these Tesla domestic terrorists to a jail in El Salvador than these MS-13 or Trendy Aragua guys.
donald j trump
Well, I view these people as terrorists just like others.
When I looked at those showrooms burning and those cars, not one or two, like seven, eight, ten burning, exploding all over the place.
These are terrorists.
You didn't have that on January 6th, I can tell you.
You didn't have anything like that on January 6th, which is sort of amazing because on January 6th, the Democrats were talking.
Nobody was killed other than a very beautiful young woman, Ashley Babbitt.
Nobody was killed.
And you look at what's going on now with these terrorists.
These are terrorists, and that's an organized event.
You know, take a look at their signs.
Take a look.
They're all made by the same sign company.
A nice, expensive job.
Now, the people that finance it are, in my opinion, in just as big a trouble as the people that are setting the match and setting the fires.
So we'll see.
It's under very serious investigation by the FBI and by the Justice Department.
These people are terrorists.
unidentified
Mr. President, you mentioned a deal with Ukraine.
What do you say to American military families who are seeing Elon Musk at the Pentagon today, are hearing about Defense Department cuts, and their thoughts are immediately going to the safety of their loved ones who are currently deployed?
donald j trump
Well, we're making our country strong.
And when they see a thing like that, and they hear that story about Elon and China, what they should do is realize that the New York Times is a corrupt...
Institution, because I think they're the ones.
They knew that story wasn't true.
Nobody believed that story.
People that, when I first saw it, they laughed when they heard this story.
Nobody believed it, that the Pentagon was giving him a briefing on what war with China would look like, and he has business.
No, they made that up because it's a good story to make up.
They're very dishonest people.
Look, I have it with the Times, and you'll see more and more of it.
To me, it's a very...
Very dishonest organization.
But a story like that is made up.
It's total fiction.
unidentified
And I just wanted to make sure.
donald j trump
I called up Chief of Staff and I called up Pete.
And I said, is there any truth to that?
Absolutely not.
He's there for Doge, not there for China.
And if you ever mention China, I think he'd walk out of the room.
He wouldn't take it anywhere.
So it's just a made-up story.
Nobody's taking better care of the military.
One of the things that I know that Pete's doing is he's talking about a lot of the civilian staff, and we're going to get them other jobs.
You know, we're going to have a lot of jobs in this country, but we don't want to have wasteful jobs.
We want to have meaningful jobs.
And those were wasteful jobs.
Those are jobs that not only military, but jobs where people don't show up.
You take a look at Department of Education.
I've never seen so many buildings with the names on it.
You go past one after another, Department of Education, and they're empty.
The people don't show up.
You know why?
Because they have other jobs.
Because they're playing golf, or they're playing something.
They're doing something.
And we have a lot of great people, but we have to move that back to the States.
We're going to make our country strong, and we're going to get people much better jobs.
Because we have companies moving into our country the likes of which we've never seen before.
Nothing like this has happened.
And it's automatic.
They don't want to pay the tariffs.
How do you avoid paying the tariffs?
You build your plant in the United States.
And it's a beautiful thing to see.
I see it.
So far, I would say $4 trillion.
Nobody's ever heard of them.
No country's ever heard of numbers like that.
$4 trillion.
And those are the best ones.
The biggest, best chipmaker in the world.
I'm not a fan of the CHIP Act, where you give billions of dollars away to companies that don't need it.
And it won't bring them here.
I'm giving nothing away.
All they're doing is coming here to their building because they want to avoid it.
Remember this on the tariffs, too, because that's going to be, you know, Liberation Day, April 2nd.
It's reciprocal.
If they charge us, we charge them.
So somebody will say, well, how much are the tariffs?
Very fair.
If India, as an example, has been very bad to us on tariffs, they charge 100%, 200%, whatever they charge.
Now, Europe just announced they're lowering the tariffs on cars.
You know, we charge, like a joke, 2.5%.
That's what this country charges.
Europe just announced that they're reducing their tariffs on cars to 2.5%.
unidentified
It's nice.
donald j trump
But they also have non-monetary tariffs where they make it impossible for the cars to get in even without the dollars on them.
It's called a non-monetary tariff where they put on controls where no matter what happens, because they don't want cars.
They don't want the American car in their market.
And yet they send us millions of cars.
They send us big agriculture.
They don't want our agriculture.
They don't want anything from us.
The European Union is very tough.
Now it's fair.
So whatever they do to us, we do to them.
unidentified
Mr. President, Russia continues to attack Ukraine.
donald j trump
Yeah, I think we're going to have a ceasefire on a lot of areas.
And so far, that's all very well.
And getting that ceasefire, you know, a lot of guns pointing at each other.
Some soldiers, unfortunately, surrounded by other soldiers, and they are going to be, I believe, we're going to pretty soon have a full ceasefire, and then we're going to have a contract.
And the contract's being negotiated, the contract in terms of dividing up the lands, et cetera, et cetera, it's being negotiated as we speak.
unidentified
What do you say to critics who say that your actions towards law firms are amount to co-ordination?
donald j trump
Well, the law firms all want to make deals.
You mean the law firms that were going after that went after me for four years ruthlessly, violently, illegally?
Are those the law firms you're talking about?
They're not babies.
They're very sophisticated people.
unidentified
Those law firms did bad things.
donald j trump
Bad things.
They went after me for years.
Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
All hoax.
It was a hoax.
It was Hunter Biden's laptop.
It didn't come out of Russia, by the way.
It came out of his bedroom.
unidentified
It was all a hoax developed by Democrats.
donald j trump
Hillary, I don't think Biden did because I don't think Biden knows what the hell he's doing, frankly, based on everything I see.
I've seen things since being here that are so sad.
What he's done to this country, what he and they did to this country, those people that surrounded him, who, by the way, are radical left but smart.
He's not smart.
He was never smart.
But these are radical left smart people.
They totally controlled him.
He did whatever they told him to do.
And it's a shame.
It's so sad to see what happened, what they've done to this country, both not only the inflation, the inflation you saw, but allowing millions of criminals, millions and millions of criminals into our country.
That's an inexcusable act.
And many other things besides that.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
benny johnson
We're gonna...
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
All right.
We can stop now.
Okay.
So we've tried our hardest to incorporate sound effects into the stream.
Now, we sometimes cover very serious topics, like Donald Trump talking about hostages and wars and new fighter jets and leaked memos and JFK assassinations.
So it's not exactly...
The right time to do a sound effect, right?
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
But you can do it.
benny johnson
We can do it.
We got it.
We got our, you know, we got our Donald Trump is your president sound effect.
unidentified
The future of MAGA is here.
benny johnson
This is my first time I'm on a rap album.
But not last.
Stay tuned.
unidentified
We coming back.
Joe Biden in the crowd taking naps.
Come on.
benny johnson
Okay, so that's the point.
You know, this is what we're trying to do here, is make this as entertaining as possible for everyone.
President Trump on a rampage, rampage there, and we're upon...
Speaking of being as entertaining as possible, just checking in to make sure that our next guest, who's been very, very patient, is ready to go.
And the man who is possibly one of the most entertaining politicians in America right now, this side of President Trump.
A man who has entertained tens of millions, hundreds of millions, throughout his exceptional career as a WWE wrestler, lovingly known as Kane, now known as Mr. Mayor of Knox County, Tennessee.
Glenn Jacobs joins the show live now.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you you you Mr. Mayor, I just want to start off by saying welcome to the program.
And this is pretty kick-ass.
Thank you for being so patient with us and President Trump.
Here's the new fighter that was just revealed by the White House.
I mean, it looks awesome.
And I think as a man's man, you love these press conferences because, well, every boy grows up wanting to...
Want to fly in one of these, right?
unidentified
Yeah, that is pretty cool.
It's very sleek and looks very stealthy, actually.
benny johnson
It looks awesome.
We have a very masculine administration, and it's been a really refreshing change of pace.
New data out this morning showing that young men are actually more right-wing than their 70-year-old grandfathers, that young...
White men specifically are like, they're completely done with wokeness and are the most red-pilled of any generation ever.
The Republican Party has a total and complete monopoly on masculinity.
How did that happen, Mr. Mayor?
unidentified
It's a pendulum swing.
The Democrats for many years now have concentrated on promoting a narrative of effeminate men and very weak women, and that's just been rejected.
Ultimately, it doesn't work.
I mean, you get someone like Donald Trump in the White House, and you realize he's doing all this stuff.
I mean, that guy is literally kicking butt right now with everything that he's doing.
It's been amazing.
And people see that, and they realize, where's this been the past four years?
Unfortunately, you had someone in the White House, sadly, who's...
We haven't heard anything about Joe Biden since he left office, which is pretty amazing to me, because normally the president stays in the public's eye, but unfortunately...
You know, he was suffering from severe cognitive decline while he was there and it was just terrible weak leadership.
And then literally, you know, literally this term toxic masculinity and just attacking men and really at the same time also attacking.
Strong women because what the Democrats want is they want weak people who are dependent on the government, who will do anything that they say, and that is completely contrary to what Americans are and what we should be, frankly.
benny johnson
Yes, they do.
They want weakness.
They want smooth brain.
They want sheep.
They want people that are easy to control.
And for everybody else, they'll put them in the COVID concentration camp.
There you go.
We've got a system for you.
It's running right now.
unidentified
There you go.
That's exactly right.
benny johnson
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, so Mr. Mayor, you have made quite a few headlines this week.
Speaking of effeminate men.
Yeah, there's a feminine man right here who was...
Talking some smack.
Now, this is something that you know how to do professionally, so I'm not sure it's even fair.
But this is what Tim Walz said.
He said that he could kick MAGA's ass.
I'm going to jump to the clip here.
Let's have a listen.
unidentified
I think we're wrong not to understand more deeply and fully that people think we are deeply full of ourselves and we're talking down to people and past people.
People want to be protected.
They want to be respected.
And they want to be connected.
And I think this notion of respect is something that keeps coming back to me.
People that just feel like we don't respect this notion.
How do you fight it?
tim walz
I think I could kick most of their ass.
I do think that.
But I don't know if we're going to fall into that place where we want to, okay, we challenge you to a WWE fight here type of thing.
benny johnson
So, do you think that Tim Walz could kick most of your ass?
unidentified
No, I don't.
And I think one of the most interesting parts of that interview is Gavin Newsom's reaction.
You can immediately tell he's like that nervous laugh.
He's like, oh my gosh, what did he just say?
And of course, now we've seen what has happened.
It's just gone all over the place.
But that was...
First of all, it's completely inappropriate.
Could you imagine if Donald Trump had said something like that or if I'd said something like that?
I would be excoriating for threatening people.
But it's funny when Tim Walsh does it, right?
But it also shows that, again, I think this memo went out among the Democrats that, hey, guys, we have to act tough now.
But they don't know how to act tough because they're not tough people.
And I'm a tough guy.
I just mean, I think about my dad who grew up in the Great Depression.
And he was not a bully or anything like that, but he's a masculine guy.
That's what he had to do to survive.
I even think about my mom.
Same thing.
Grew up in the Great Depression.
She is a rock.
She's a very stoic person.
So it's completely different than these guys who feel that they have to...
The way you act tough...
Is you literally threaten people.
And that's not being tough.
That's just being juvenile.
benny johnson
So, I wanted to play you some of Tim Walz's greatest moves here.
These are really something special.
Maybe you could break them down for us, Mr. Mayor.
So, this is...
I'm not sure what you'd call this.
The flamboyant jazz hands.
unidentified
The...
benny johnson
Too high of an estrogen level for any man to ever live with.
unidentified
Happy fingers.
benny johnson
Yes, happy fingers.
unidentified
Happy fingers.
benny johnson
These are very threatening moves.
You know, you can really see these in the ring.
unidentified
I am intimidated.
benny johnson
Yes, that's right.
I mean, consider the distraction of the jazz hands.
unidentified
Exactly.
benny johnson
It's quite a tactic here.
So this, you know, and then definitely the...
I mean, he can get a...
Real ballet kick in there, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Legs go right above his head.
unidentified
He's a showman.
Oh, he's going to tear something.
He's a showman, I'll give you that.
But I don't know how much of a combat arts practitioner he necessarily is.
But he certainly can put on a good show for the crowd.
I think in this case, he might have written a check.
His mouth might have written a check that his body can't cash.
benny johnson
So you want to write a check to charity and fight them.
Here we go.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
benny johnson
You put your money where your mouth is as you've done your entire career.
unidentified
Yep.
benny johnson
And you've posted right here on social media.
Hey, man, we're going to raise tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars for this fight.
I'll gladly pledge money to charity for this.
We'll add another 10 grand.
How about that?
unidentified
There you go.
benny johnson
Okay, so we'll put in more.
unidentified
We're at over $50,000 in pledges at this point.
benny johnson
Great, great.
So let's make it happen, right?
You versus Tim Walls.
You're serious about this?
unidentified
Yeah, no, I am serious about this because, as you just said, you're going to pledge money.
I've pledged money so far on Twitter.
These are legitimate sources on Twitter that have pledged up to $50,000.
And we also have a potential corporate title sponsor.
So this could raise a lot of money for charity.
We'll split the gate 50-50 between our chosen charities.
So his charity gets half.
My charity gets half.
And it's all for a good cause.
And look, I mean, seriously, no one's going to get hurt.
I promise you that.
My entire career in wrestling, I was very good at taking care of people.
But nevertheless, man, if you want to get in the ring with me.
There we do.
There it is.
And let's just do it for charity.
Let's do it for good cause.
benny johnson
So, we're not in the business of helping out Tim Walls.
And we do think he's a complete asshat.
But we have decided, our graphic designers have decided, to go and assist Tim Walls today.
And I hope you don't judge us.
And we're certainly not trying to give aid to the enemy.
But we've come up with outfits that he could wear.
We've come up with, you know, we're going to start with this.
So we can come up with what he could wear in the ring and, you know, to really make himself stand out, right?
Got something, you know, something else.
unidentified
What do you call that one, Benny?
benny johnson
Well, this we call, this we call, I mean, you just got to call this the tampon, Tim.
Right?
You just got Tampon Tinkerbell Tim is this.
unidentified
Tinkerbell.
I like that.
benny johnson
This is the Tampon Trans Tinkerbell Tim.
So the T-T-T-T-T.
And then we'll go...
And that's probably his taunt.
He'll go T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T- Bedazzler.
This is called Kamala with a box of wine and a bedazzler.
unidentified
Love it.
benny johnson
And you've got to be careful on this one, right?
You can get some sparkles in your eyes.
unidentified
Yep.
And I love how in the background the marquee says Elon Musk is weird.
That's a great touch.
benny johnson
Okay, good.
Let's do one more.
Yeah, here we go.
Let's do one more.
We can do the Madame Butterfly.
There we go.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I think that's the winner, actually.
benny johnson
Okay.
unidentified
And seriously, you know, Batman needed Joku.
Superman needed Lex Luger.
Lex Luthor.
Lex Luger's actually a great wrestler.
Ali needed Frasier.
Frasier needed Foreman.
So, yeah.
I mean, Jacobs needs Tinkerbell Tim.
benny johnson
Tinkerbell trans-tampon Tim, you see.
And that's going to be pretty...
Pretty terrifying in the ring.
Yeah.
When you get those jazz hands and that glitter, it's going to be distracting.
unidentified
The crowd's going to go wild.
benny johnson
What would be your move, Kane?
What's the move?
Please put Tinkerbell tampon Tim back up.
What's the move?
How do you defeat this?
unidentified
I don't know.
Unfortunately, what might happen is I might start laughing so hard that I fall down and he just pins me and wins by default.
I'm the most wild festival wrestling match in the stream before.
So.
Okay.
benny johnson
It's true.
It might happen.
So this is what he's up against.
Here's the cover of your book, for instance.
It would be Tinkerbell Tampon, Trans Tim versus Mayor Kane.
unidentified
I'm not going to put the mask on.
I'm not going to put the outfit on.
You know, because that would just be too much, and I wouldn't expect an amateur to accept that challenge.
But it's just me.
I mean, I'm just sitting here, man.
Glenn Jacobs, I'm not that bad a dude.
Come on, Governor, we can do it.
benny johnson
We're going to have a ton of fans that are going to demand, though, that I really do, for lack of a better term, pin you down.
What move would you use?
What is your strategy?
How would you defeat him?
Other than you laughing, we understand laughing by default and losing by default.
What strategy would you deploy here, sir?
unidentified
Ultimately, it would be, I would borrow a page from my alter ego, and it would be the high boot, followed by a choke slam, and then a tombstone pile driver.
I think that's a good strategy.
There you go.
benny johnson
There you go.
unidentified
Damn.
I hope nothing flies off of him, though.
benny johnson
I got a tampon in the eye.
unidentified
Come on!
benny johnson
Stop the match!
This would be great.
I think it'd be over.
I think it'd be over.
I think it'd be over for Tim.
unidentified
Imagine him as the undertaker here.
Golly.
This match could be as big as anything at WrestleMania.
benny johnson
He could.
unidentified
It'd be awesome.
benny johnson
We've got to raise our number.
We'll raise our number up.
Anything to make this possible.
Anything.
We'll live stream it.
We'll go there.
We'll run the production.
I'm happy to run the production.
Anything.
Our graphic designer has one more option for Tim Walls.
If he wants to get more intimidating, he can go with Gimp Walls.
There you go.
So many options.
unidentified
I'm actually scarred now.
benny johnson
So many options, Mr. Mayor, and we're just thrilled...
Please, please, sir.
Oh, I just didn't want to talk over you.
We're just thrilled that somebody puts their money where their mouth is, and this is very entertaining for us.
unidentified
Well, thank you, buddy.
I appreciate it.
Hopefully it could be...
Thank you for everybody.
Hopefully the match comes on.
benny johnson
Yes, that's right.
Please follow somebody with a very, very, you could say a very promising career, but he's already had an absolutely legendary career, but now he's saving his country.
You can follow him on his personal and official accounts here.
We got Glenn Jacobs for Tennessee there.
Looks like blowing up some Tannerite.
Pretty kick-ass.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
benny johnson
And then, of course, the Kane account with 500 plus thousand subs.
Follow both.
And anything we can do.
Anything we can do.
unidentified
So, I'll be in touch as soon as Governor Walz gets back to me.
I'll be in touch as soon as Governor Walz gets back to me.
benny johnson
We'll do outfit design for him.
There you go.
I love it.
unidentified
It's turnkey.
benny johnson
That's right.
We thank you, sir.
Please come back soon.
Godspeed.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Bye-bye.
you Amen.
benny johnson
Whoo, man.
Ladies and gentlemen, moving quickly here on the program.
You never know.
President Trump's let's rip, right?
Says we're going live.
You just got to go to the White House inside the Oval Office and listen.
Somebody who's been listening very closely to President Trump.
And to the American people, more importantly, and what they think about President Trump.
Somebody who I think is very much not surprised at what's happening right now, but has some brand new information for us about where President Trump stands with the population.
The head pollster at Rasmussen, Mark Mitchell, our dear friend, back from the abyss!
He was on every single show before the election.
And now let's find out how the golden era is rolling with Mark.
you you you It's like driving an old Chevrolet, man.
It's like driving an old Chevy truck, Mark.
It's just so great to be back.
Some of the guests that we had on before the election, you know, it's like polling doesn't exactly comport itself to the intermediary times, right?
When Biden's just been roaming around the White House in a mustard-stained bathrobe.
And so now we have two months, two solid months of Trump administration.
Where are we at, Mark?
mark mitchell
Well, there was a bit of a respite, I'll be honest with you.
But here we are, two months into Trump's second term, and there's already like psyops flying left and right.
It's unbelievable.
They gave him like about a month until they decided, well, it's time to start convincing the American public that all of a sudden...
For the first time in eight years, Donald Trump is massively unpopular.
And I don't see it again.
I mean, because everybody was polling like me about a month and a half ago, and I still show that Donald Trump has a 51% approval rating today.
That's only down a couple of points from when he first came into office.
And there's other pollsters like Emerson that show the same thing.
Like, yeah, every president comes in, has a honeymoon, it fades a little bit.
Three, four points.
But then you have Quinnipiac and Reuters out there who've shown that their approval has gone down like 15 points.
And that's fake, I think.
And of course, all the mainstream media is running with it.
And it's because that's all they have.
The Democrats have found themselves in a horrible catch-22.
They can't decide whether they want to moderate or burn the country down.
And so they're left with the media trying to run cover for them.
It's really sick.
benny johnson
So we don't care about them.
I mean, it's been so awesome.
This last election cycle to establish relationships with people like yourself and Rasmussen where we get the real numbers and hot damn, man, were you right?
You were right and everyone else was wrong.
And you just like did two straight middle fingers to the rest of the polling industry and lit them on fire.
And it was so awesome to see.
And you were on this show so regularly, Mark, saying they're lying to you.
mark mitchell
Yeah.
I'm plus two, baby.
That's what it was.
benny johnson
That's right.
You said it from 3,000 yards away.
And you nailed that sucker, man.
Dead bullseye.
mark mitchell
Well, they were trying to do a PSYOP then.
Listen, she has the DNC.
This is our chance.
We can puff her up.
She's going to go into a debate, and we're just going to give her everything she had.
Reuters is going to come out and show her up plus seven, and that's the best we can give her.
And it's her job to take it from there.
And obviously, it didn't work out for them.
But our numbers were just flat the entire time, and it's basically the same thing now.
Imagine thinking that Donald Trump's gathered support for almost a decade now.
And all of a sudden, he's starting to give people what they want, and then they abandon him.
It makes no sense.
benny johnson
It makes no sense.
So what do you say to these other pollsters?
Are they just going to go until broke?
I know that some pollsters are actually going out of business.
mark mitchell
Yeah, it's beautiful to watch.
We've had Ann Seltzer implode, 538, who kicked us out.
It's no longer a dead website.
All of the poor people.
Trying to get new jobs out there, new propaganda jobs.
I mean, it's crazy.
Quinnipiac folded.
Everybody's consolidating.
Here's another story you're not hearing about.
A lot of these people aren't doing their own polling anymore.
They're all referring it to Reuters and YouGov.
Those are really small, incapable panels, in my opinion.
So by 2028, there might not be very many real pollsters at all.
It's like maybe us and a couple other people.
And of course, nothing Morning Consult can do will kill them for some reason.
But whatever.
I mean, it's...
Turns out that you can, like, three cycles of lying, I guess, is just one too many.
benny johnson
So the American people are, they're at, so Trump's at 51%, according to resumes.
mark mitchell
Yeah, we've had him at net plus two to net plus four.
I think he's going to be there, because that's what his numbers were before the election.
But the number I've been referring people to is right direction.
We ask people every night, hey, is the country headed in the right direction?
We actually hit 48%, which was a record.
For our polling for 19 years, the first time in all of our polling history where right direction exceeded wrong track.
That was two or three weeks ago.
And the number is still at 45% right now, which puts it at higher than any point in Obama's two terms.
So people are really happy as measured by everything's getting cleaned up.
And so all of the pearl clutching and chaos and war shipping and all of the Elon Musk virtue signaling about burning things down, it's not working.
It's not going to work.
benny johnson
So the right direction would be probably the brightest polling point for the president right now?
Is that what you would say?
mark mitchell
Oh, 100%.
You throw the word Trump into a question and it automatically takes a five-point hit.
But again, 45% right track today, higher than 98% of all data points in our entire polling history.
Wow.
benny johnson
We do, on occasion, there comes across our feed, right, a...
You know, Harry Enten clip on CNN, and he's gasping about how the American people actually really like what's going on in the country.
And so you have the data to reflect that.
It's not just CNN clickbait.
mark mitchell
Yeah, well, it turns out all the questions we asked.
Help us understand the political contacts.
That's one of the reasons that I wasn't that worried at the end of the day showing that Donald Trump was going to win.
Because I knew this wasn't, again, about Trump versus Harris.
This was about overreach of the federal government, the weaponization of the DOJ, the inflation situation, the way the middle class has been squeezed.
We had questions backing all of that up.
And so I've been saying Trump's had a mandate, not necessarily because of his popular vote win, which I do think was bigger than the final reported numbers, but because every single one of his platform items is overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly positive.
The idea of Doge auditing things, that's almost a two-to-one favorability among Americans.
70% of U.S. likely voters are angry at the level of waste, fraud, and abuse in the government.
And so it's nice of Harry to finally come along.
And understand the context that Joe Biden's presidency has given us.
And I watch him and I actually feel kind of happy for him because I feel like he had a pretty strong set of marching orders for a while.
It feels like maybe that veil has been lifted and he's able to just get out there and tell the truth.
He really seems to enjoy himself when he does.
But thanks for joining us, Harry.
Yes, people want illegal aliens deported.
People do not want the government, you know, living in largesse in Washington, D.C., creating like an entire cast of people milking the taxpayers, like a bipartisan kleptocracy.
Yeah, they don't want that.
Imagine that.
benny johnson
People don't want any more Democrat Party, man.
Republicans at record high ratings.
So that's interesting that you say take Trump out of it.
So you take Trump out of it and you just do two parties.
Republicans record high, Democrats lowest.
In a generation, Democrat Party's favorability drops to record low.
These are some of the headlines from across the industry.
And the leader of the Democrat Party is AOC?
unidentified
Oh, no!
benny johnson
Is the Democrat Party a functional party anymore, Mark?
mark mitchell
I don't think so.
I really don't.
There's a huge leadership vacuum, and they're in a really tough catch-22.
Now, I will say that my Democrat Party favorability numbers are higher than the CNN poll.
So believe me, I think, over them, they're like 43%, which makes sense, right?
Kamala Harris just got 48%, 49%.
And Republican Party is six points better.
We actually just released that today.
And so that's actually really astounding for the country.
They have no path forward.
And so they're in a situation where they know if they double down on crazy and stupid, they're going to lose.
AOC, you know, Bernie Sanders out there on the stump with her, that's going to fail.
Jasmine Crockett's not going to be able to dig him out of this.
And you got Tim Waltz out there talking, you know, I loved your previous set.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
The idea that he's out there.
benny johnson
I'm going to kick your ass!
mark mitchell
Like, violent signaling?
That's not going to work, dude.
People don't want that out of you guys.
And then you have Gavin Newsom, who's a very astute political player.
I mean, you could say what you want about his track record.
But he's doing probably the right thing for the Democrats at great personal cost.
They're going to tear him down.
You can see the people on Reddit talking about how they'll never let Gavin Newsom win because of what he's perpetrated on the trans community.
But he's doing...
Like, objectively, something good for America talking to the other side and trying to understand their viewpoints.
And so who's going to come in and fill that leadership vacuum and say, you guys are crazy?
Because where they have to get to if they want to win is they have to have somebody who's a good enough leader to plausibly convince a majority of Americans that they have a platform that's better than America first and that they will actually enact it.
And that seems like a bridge pretty far away right now.
And so they might have to lose a couple cycles until they get to that situation.
benny johnson
Yeah, like how do you un-F this party?
Here's the...
Here's the apportionment for the 2030 forecast.
And I don't see here, Mark, how a Democrat wins nationally in a popular vote.
And I sure as hell don't see how they win in an electoral college vote.
Now, I want to preface all this by saying, and Mark, I'm your freaking biggest hype man.
You can't hire someone who's a better hype man than me.
You came on this program and you made huge national news declaring that Donald Trump would win the popular vote.
Bro, you said it in like April of last year.
We're like marking the one-year anniversary where you said this.
I had my producers pull it up.
Like you came on the program and you said it like a year ago.
And everyone just torched you for that.
And lo and behold, here we are with these maps saying...
Democrats may never win the popular vote again.
What's your take on that?
mark mitchell
Well, we don't have to wait until 2030.
I think we'll see how this is going to go in 2026.
And ultimately, the big thing I'm looking at is, listen, seven people left Act Blue.
They're under multiple state investigations.
They're under federal investigation, in my understanding.
And so that's going to be a problem for them because they ubiquitously win on small-dollar donations.
Turns out it's probably recycled George Soros and NGO money going back into their coffers just miraculously exactly where they need it.
And so I really question because I went back and looked at ActBlue fundraising, and they raised $800 million in the 2016 cycle, which was a presidential cycle.
And then in 2018, they raised like $1.6 billion.
And incidentally, 2018 was one of our biggest misses.
And so I'm really sore about that because we had the Democrats doing better than we predicted in our polling.
And it could be just magical unicorn dollars dumped into those coffers that might just evaporate.
And so I don't think Trump plans to run the last two years of his term without both houses of Congress.
And we know how they've been sort of like sneaking out those.
House votes, those swing state Senate races, and that's got to stop.
I don't think the map's very good for them for 2026 either.
And what are they running on other than literally just burning the country to the ground?
benny johnson
So you're obviously 26 and 28, massive, and 28. I want to talk to you about the landscape for a Republican, because clearly J.D. Vance is the number one most improved player, like MVP, like first rookie of the year, really.
But before we get there, Mark, this map, dude.
This is terrible.
I mean, the future looks horrible if you are a Democrat.
And this won't be long.
I mean, this is 2030.
So this won't be a very long time before Florida and Texas become the dominant electoral vote centers of the country, effectively making the blue wall, as we know it, unnecessary for a Republican to win the presidency.
Am I reading this map correct?
I mean, do Democrats have...
A catastrophe?
An electoral college apocalypse that they're staring down?
mark mitchell
No, I think that's really fair.
They wouldn't be importing millions of people a year if they weren't in this situation, for sure.
You know, they got to a situation where their values don't reflect the American people, and you have to do something, and so that's what they picked.
They picked that and oppression.
And those obviously didn't play too well.
And I think things are probably worse than this map says, because listen, there's a lot of people here that vote in federal elections that shouldn't be, that probably might self-deport between now and 2030.
Now, I know that the Republicans are somewhat against this, but I'll tell you what, every time we've polled on E-Verify, voters overwhelmingly love it and want it implemented.
And that's something that a Republican Congress could do today.
I know there'd be some special interests against it, but I think this map would look even better for Republicans if we could get things like that into place.
And so also, I think maybe, you know, depending on who puts together this 2030 census, might be a little bit different than 2020 because I know there were some things in there that Trump would have liked to have seen that got stripped out.
And, you know, when you talk about maybe 10, 15, 20 million illegal aliens here shifting these numbers one way or the other, like that all has to get fixed.
benny johnson
Yes.
So without the criminal aliens, and without criminal alien votes and apportionment, and the census didn't ask your nation of origin or citizenship status, which is crazy, which is criminal, Mark.
mark mitchell
Yeah.
benny johnson
But without that, I mean, what would the map look like?
mark mitchell
Better than this.
benny johnson
Yeah, okay.
unidentified
All right.
mark mitchell
Yeah.
benny johnson
So, J.D. Vance coming through in recent polling.
Let's check.
Whose poll is this?
Is this just the...
Political polls?
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
All right.
Oh, Echelon.
All right.
mark mitchell
Yeah, they're not bad.
benny johnson
450, what, 450 live voters?
J.D. Vance, though, coming out as a dominant, dominant, in-charge, in-control 2028 primary.
You see these numbers?
mark mitchell
No, I didn't.
They make total sense.
We haven't run a 2028 for Republicans yet.
Yeah, we're in the field right now for Democrats, and I think we're going to see the exact same thing other people have seen, which is like once a person gets into office and is a name and a face on a national stage, there's this level of name recognition that just can't be bought with a campaign.
So Kamala Harris is still the Democrat front runner by far.
I don't think she wants it.
I don't think she's going to go back and do it.
She has similar numbers.
Yeah.
Okay.
There it is.
I've seen higher.
I've seen 45, 50, 60, even depending on the pollster and Buttigieg, I don't know.
I'm scratching my head on that one.
benny johnson
Please let it be Boogie Edge tampon, Tim.
I'd do anything.
unidentified
I'll campaign for him.
mark mitchell
Yeah, I'm wondering where they must have pulled heavy in Indiana on this one.
But yeah, J.D. Vance is the person.
He's the frontrunner by far, even without me going into the field.
And it makes sense.
He's an extension of the MAGA platform.
I'm surprised to see Rubio down there in cruise territory, but maybe it's early.
People haven't had a chance to figure out where he lies.
Yeah, this makes sense.
benny johnson
Final question for you, Mark.
Elon Musk, obviously, without question, the most controversial member of the administration.
Doge doesn't ever get a good news day, in the corporate press at least.
They do around here.
What do people say about Doge and cutting waste, fraud, and abuse?
mark mitchell
I mean, that's a psychological op, for sure, because right now Elon Musk has a higher favorability rating than the Democrat Party by all measures.
We actually had Doge outperforming Trump.
With a plus 11 net favorability rating.
And Elon Musk was only a point or two behind Trump, but that slipped a few points since they started torching dealerships.
But who knows?
Maybe the Dolphins coming to meet his spaceship as it came in.
Maybe that'll give him a bump.
It doesn't matter.
Trump's not going to care that Elon Musk has a 47 versus a 51% favorability rating.
And Elon Musk isn't going to stop because he thinks this is existential.
So this comes back to the Democrats.
How high are you going to escalate things?
Are you going to take this?
National Tesla ownership database and turn it into an enemies list?
Are you going to literally call for violence?
And I think there's a lot of them who might actually do it.
So that's one of the things we're trying to get at, I think, this year, is unpacking, A, how angry are voters going to get at the level of fraud?
Because what we uncovered, I think you and me could say, just in the first two weeks of January, hasn't been socialized to the vast majority of people in this country.
And it's all kind of like...
Gone away a little bit.
People aren't focusing on the fact that, yeah, they're probably stealing between $500 billion and a trillion dollars a year.
So I want to see the voters come to terms with that and what that does with people's opinion.
And I want to see how far the Democrats are going to push crazy because right now, Reddit's a pretty sick place and they have a choice.
They could lick their wounds, try and find a new leadership and moderate and hopefully eventually earn voters on the merits.
Or, you know, like somebody said on my Twitter feed, they're basically bleeding Kansas right now with Tesla dealerships.
They're acting like the Confederates did before the Civil War.
unidentified
Yeah!
benny johnson
Hot damn.
That's exactly right.
I think that's the direction that the party's headed.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Democrats always very...
On the losing end of civil wars.
And who's going to pick the crops?
Always a big question for Democrats.
They're always excited to bring that one up.
Ladies and gentlemen, who's going to pick your polls?
It should be Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen, the most accurate pollster in America.
Go follow Mark.
Mark's on his way to 100,000 subs.
And we say Godspeed and welcome back, man.
unidentified
Welcome back.
benny johnson
This is going to be a wild ride.
mark mitchell
Yeah, we stream three nights a week now, nine o 'clock, so I hope to see people there tonight.
benny johnson
All right, well, have a good one, Mark.
Godspeed, man.
Have a great weekend.
mark mitchell
You too, Benny.
unidentified
Thanks.
benny johnson
you you All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is our time for the verse of the day, Proverbs 27, 17. As iron sharpens iron, so does a friend sharpen a friend.
Thank you for being a friend to this show.
We cannot tell you how much we appreciate you, the fastest-growing streaming show in all of America, and, more importantly, your front seat to the Golden Arrow.
It's your boy, Benny.
See ya.
unidentified
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donald j trump
My God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against.
My God, I do.
We're not going to just meme those globalists.
We're gonna meme them till they cry and use their tears to crease the treads of our takes You got a boat Ballroom this is whiplash one.
unidentified
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I've got no idea.
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benny johnson
Get it.
unidentified
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