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🚨 60 Minutes Kamala Cover-Up EXPOSED! Full Unedited NIGHTMARE Interview Released | Trump Sues CBS
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02:15
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jesse watters
Put our hands on the raw footage of Kamala Harris' 60 Minutes interview.
Last October, in the heat of the election, Harris, Hail Mary with CBS.
But the network was caught deceptively editing this answer.
Watch.
unidentified
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
kamala harris
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.
unidentified
But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not...
The Wall Street Journal said that your administration has repeatedly been blindsided by Netanyahu.
And in fact he has rebuffed just about all of your administration's entreaties.
kamala harris
Well Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were Trump
jesse watters
sued CBS for $10 billion, and it looks like they might settle.
But before that happens, the FCC released the full interview.
Unedited.
And we have the tape.
unidentified
How will you?
David, here it is.
My philosophy is basically this.
And this is something that I live by.
And I always have.
And I always will.
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone, for any reason, ever.
No matter what.
No matter what.
Where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been.
Ever.
For any reason whatsoever.
Sometimes we'll start a sentence.
And I don't even know where it's going.
I just hope I find it along the way.
But get an improved conversation.
Improversation.
benny johnson
Improversation.
Oh, wow, that works so well.
I just can't believe it, Kamala Harris, as Michael Scott from The Office.
I hate so much about everything you choose to be, and I'm so glad that Kamala Harris didn't choose to be the President of the United States.
I am so happy about it that, I don't know, Klein, I don't know if we'll ever change it.
We'll just keep it forever.
This is a permanent fixture of the studio.
We change the studio around a lot, like we put little knickknacks here and there.
Look at it.
It's glorious.
We all decided that Kamala Harris shouldn't be president.
Boy, are we going to show you exactly how much the corporate media protects Democrats.
We're going to crack open the entire giant...
Disaster of an ecosystem that is this PSYOP capacity for Democrats to be protected by the corporate media that they fund, they create this as their own PR agencies.
Will there even be any media left when this massive cesspool of Elon Musk calls a bowl of worms is finally eradicated?
Will it just be us?
Where do I get my reparations?
Final thing.
Where do I get my reparations?
Everyone else.
Am I the only guy that wasn't taking USAID money?
Am I the only show?
Is this the only actual independent show in the world?
Incredible.
Ladies and gentlemen, today is Thursday, February 6th, 2025.
The FCC.
Released the full 60 Minutes Kamala Harris interview.
This is the interview that Donald Trump sued $10 billion over, probably the most consequential interview of the 2024 election, given that it is going to reveal how corrupt your media is.
DOJ turns over items from the Mar-a-Lago raid as President Trump sends resignation letters to every CIA agent.
And the FBI is ready for another gutting Democrats trying to hold up Cash Patel's nomination.
It won't work.
They've delayed it in another week.
We're going to talk all about it today with Representative Troy Nels, Scott Perry, and also our own Jamie Mitchell joining the program to talk about her day at the White House with President Trump.
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Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
A start from the beginning.
President Trump has sued CBS, all right?
CBS staff alarmed by reports.
Of potential settlement talk with Donald Trump over 60 Minutes Harris interview.
So what was going on here?
You may recall that there was a preview.
This is really funny.
CBS did this to themselves.
There was a preview sent out of a CBS interview of Kamala Harris.
Now she went on 60 Minutes.
She sat for an hour with 60 Minutes.
And they sent out, it's like a teaser.
For what the interview was.
But what ended up happening is the teaser, the answer that she gave, the specific answer having to do with Gaza and Israel, this answer was wildly different from what was broadcast.
They were demonstrably different.
You could see that in one, Kamala Harris was salad shooting and was incapable of creating English words with her brain.
Made no sense.
This is, of course, a very important topic.
People's lives are at risk.
America's treasure is at risk.
The Middle East is at risk.
This is the original, ladies and gentlemen, that was sent out as a teaser from 60 Minutes.
And this is, of course, the reason why we're fixating on this.
You say, Benny, this 2024 election is all over.
Don't worry about it.
Who cares?
Kamala lost.
She lost in a landslide.
You have the giant map on your wall.
The reason why it's important is that we've been talking about the corporate funding of the media via the United States government.
United States government pushing millions, hundreds of millions of dollars into the coffers of the corporate press in order to protect their candidates, their policies, attack the American people.
It's something we've been exposing this entire week, and we believe that this is a perfect punctuation mark as to how this all works and how the media isn't actually real when you hear them all saying the same thing, using the same language, using the same words.
It's all directed by our government.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we have this moment where everyone was able to see that CBS News was editing Severely butchering their interview with Kamala Harris.
Donald Trump sues 60 Minutes and CBS for this $10 billion.
And then President Trump, because he's the chief executive, weighs on the FCC to go a step further.
The FCC, of course, who is responsible for CBS's broadcast license.
And all the little goodies that are given to CBS, NBC, and ABC.
And they are given to them.
These are these massively profitable, probably the most expensive things that you could have as a broadcaster in the country is these licenses.
Here's how it works.
Like when you go into a hotel, when you get a TV.
You get ABC and CBS and NBC for free, right?
For free.
They're piped in on broadcast channels that are owned, actually, and operated by the federal government.
The federal government gives licenses to ABC, NBC, PBS.
These are grandfathered in in order for these news companies to act in the public interest as part of the charter.
And so is it in the public interest?
When ABC News has no plan to fact-check Kamala Harris during the debates, but fact-checked Donald Trump's jokes.
An important reminder.
Here, ABC News had to settle a defamation lawsuit with Donald Trump for $15 million and apologize.
ABC News literally funded President Trump's presidential library.
This money is going to go to the fake news wing of the presidential library for Donald Trump.
Is that in the public interest?
No.
This was George Stephanopoulos, straight news anchor, saying that Donald Trump's a convicted rapist.
Nope.
He's not.
There are so many other instances of the broadcast channels that get these special privileges.
You know, guys like us have to actually build and work and scrape and scrap and grind and create all these other people who are just lavished by the federal government.
It shouldn't be that way.
And they have this...
Charter, unlike us, who can technically go and cover and do whatever we want, right?
These grandfathered-in media companies have these charters that they have to provide and work and give equal time, behave in the public interest, not be biased.
How's that worked out?
I mean, they're literally losing Multi-million dollar lawsuits to Donald Trump, and then Donald Trump said, you rigged the election to CBS.
By fixing this interview for Kamala Harris, this embarrassing, bungling, word salad of an interview, by fixing it up and tightening it up and doing plastic surgery on it in the edit, you were able to cobble together Sensical answers for Kamala Harris.
And that is an in-kind campaign donation.
Billions of dollars worth.
Which is true.
Here's what President Trump had to say this morning about it.
President Trump saying CBS in 60 Minutes defrauded the public by doing something that has never been done to the extent never seen before.
They 100% removed Kamala's horrible election-changing answers.
to questions and replace them with completely different, far better answers taken from other parts of the interview.
This was election-changing stuff, election interference, and quite simply, election fraud at a level never seen before.
CBS should lose its license and the cheaters, at 60 Minutes, should be thrown out and the disreputable news show immediately terminated.
With the news with the new Democrat scandal that just arose with respect to USAID, I'll cover that in just a second.
Illegally paying large sums of money to Politico and other outlets.
It leads the question to be asked, was CBS paid to commit fraud?
Many other questions to come.
Will this go down in history as the biggest broadcasting scandal in U.S. history?
Pivoting very quickly over to our reporting on the massive payola that's going on between the feds and media outlets.
The rabbit hole goes so much deeper than even we thought.
Our reporting yesterday uncovered that the payroll is not only just Politico, which we covered on the show yesterday, but also 6,200 journalists and 707 news outlets around the world in 30 different nations got funding from USAID, including one that you would know, the BBC, got $3.3 million.
Bill Gates gave BBC $20 million.
What's that about?
What the hell is going on?
Here's what we were able to uncover, and just a short search.
This is not the totality of the numbers given, ladies and gentlemen.
Politico, we reported yesterday, received $8 million.
We were utterly wrong, and we apologize.
It's actually $34.3 million stolen from you.
To go directly into funding the attacks on the MAGA movement, which Politico has done dutifully for 10 years.
The shocking and staggering increase in Politico's funding from the feds came after they dutifully laundered fake news to the American public about the Hunter Biden laptop scandal to help the Biden campaign.
As evidenced yesterday, we have the emails.
The emails state, That the Intel experts were colluding together to create a cluster cell to rig the election for Joe Biden.
And Politico published, and it's still up to this very day, Intel experts call the Hunter Biden laptop story hallmarks of Russian disinformation.
Well, Politico got a shocking increase in their funding.
You can put a killer client, just had it up on screen.
You can see this is pretty amazing how quickly their funding from the feds skyrocketed as soon as they started laundering disinformation for the federal government against Trump and to how The New York Times received $50 million from various government sources, including a staggering $26 million from Health and Human Services.
Why would that be?
What is HHS doing paying the New York Times nearly $27 million?
Can somebody explain that?
In what universe?
Can you say that you are an independent news outlet when you are receiving these bags of cash from the federal government?
These are barges of cash that have been airdropped onto news outlets that are supposed to be independent.
Of course you're not independent if somebody's paying you that kind of money.
Associated Press received $20 million in government contracts.
These contracts, of course, spiked.
Severely during election years of 2020 and 2024.
Amazing how that works.
Reuters received $9 million from the Department of Defense for, and this is in the actual award, active social engineering defense and large-scale social deception.
That's the name of the award.
Large-scale social deception is the name of the award.
So they're like...
Now they're just bragging about it.
$220,000 from the Department of State just last year.
And of course the BBC, somehow, inexplicably, along with hundreds of other foreign news sources, got multi-millions of dollars from you.
What the hell are we doing?
Is there even a left wing in this country?
It's worth asking.
The question.
Let's go down to that really cool cover image here.
I love that.
Is there even media?
Like, we asked this this morning.
Does the left-wing even exist?
Without taxpayer subsidies, without a wholesale looting of the American public, does Washington even exist?
All those buildings, all these little pristine offices.
How much of it was wholesale stolen from you, the American taxpayer?
I don't think we've even scratched the surface.
We have multiple sources inside the administration saying, you won't believe what happens next.
I don't think we've even scratched the surface.
But here's what we know, and it makes me enraged or proud.
I've kind of both, like a mix of both.
Emotions riding high this morning as we uncover this.
We actually had to fight on this channel through shadow bans and through demonetization.
Through deplatforming, we were fighting a censorship regime that was also operationally targeting us in order to make sure that these other news outlets had no competition, that people couldn't find our voice, couldn't find alternatives.
We've never been prouder to be 100% independent media.
Go search the FCC.
Go search the FEC.
For election contributions, you won't find us in there ever.
We will never take a penny from any of these organizations.
All these other people, I'm not going to name them.
I'm not ready to do that.
We'll probably do that tomorrow on the show.
I'm not going to name them yet, but all these other independent journalists taking gobs of cash from the feds and then attacking us.
They regularly find their way to attacking us when they don't like something we've done or someone we've interviewed or something we've covered.
I can tell you there's one show, one show, that you will not find a single penny from the feds, a single penny from any campaign, nothing.
When we say we are independent media and we are actually building this from the ground up and that we are a show run by you, by you, for you, and that we are you, right?
Like a dad just trying to like make a better life and a better country for my kids.
We mean it!
And so we're very proud of that.
More proud than ever of what's being built here.
And we just thank you.
Just an opportunity to please subscribe to the channel, ladies and gentlemen.
Opportunity, yeah, to please just subscribe to the channel and keep this rolling.
Because we're literally on our way to changing forever the landscape of how people consume information and media in this country.
Because now there will be...
A insane contraction of the left, not just the media left, which were the Praetorian Guards for the left-wing globalist movement.
But the globalist movement itself will wither and die on the vine.
Without the funding, they can't operate.
Where do you think all these rent-a-mobs come from?
Where do you think all these Democrats get their funding?
It's a very simple process for how this all works.
USAID gives money to Nigerian.
Schools.
That money never even leaves the country, never even gets to Nigeria, doesn't even scratch the...
It's not even...
It was never even intended to go to Nigeria.
It stays right there in Washington, D.C., goes into a shady series of non-profits and NGOs, and eventually winds up funding the door knockers for the left-wing candidate they need to win in the swing district.
That's how it works.
And then if you ever attacked that, there were all these media organs that were there to call you fake news or to fact check you or to demonetize you or to take you offline.
We were living in the Truman Show.
We were living in a fake world.
It was all fake.
It's all coming crashing down as every single corrupted institution eventually does.
Eventually it topples.
It becomes so top-heavy and so corrupt that it breaks.
It collapses in on itself.
And that's what you're seeing right now.
This release of the CBS News unedited version of Kamala Harris' interview shocked the world yesterday.
One more point on USAID, just to show you how important the work is that we're doing on the show and in this moment.
The President of the United States, ladies and gentlemen, parroting and amplifying our reporting.
Check this out.
Looks like billions of dollars have been stolen at USAID and other agencies.
Much of it going to the fake news media has payoffs for creating good stories about Democrats.
Left-wing rag known as Politico has received $8 million.
Humbly, I correct you, Mr. President, $34 million actually.
Did the New York Times receive money?
Yes, they did.
$50 million.
Who else did?
This could be the biggest scandal of all time.
Perhaps the biggest in history.
Democrats cannot hide from this one.
Do we have Carolyn Levitt yesterday?
Let's grab Carolyn Levitt talking about Politico yesterday.
I just want to bring, again, I just want to emphasize here, this is a show that is designed and built and energized by creating a better country for you and me and for our children.
And it is our great honor to be able to do that with staggering regularity.
Yesterday, we published a screenshot of Politico's...
Here it is.
Politico's funding.
The biggest scandal in news media history, we said.
We noted Politico.
We talked about how Politico had...
Problems paying their employees.
As soon as the USAID funding was cut, their payroll didn't hit.
And then, lo and behold, ladies and gentlemen, that sucker went thermonuclear.
We have it on good authority that President Trump was shown this as a series of printed out pieces of media and content that he consumed in the White House yesterday and then crafted his truth post based on this.
221,000 likes, 62,000 shares, 11 million views.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new media.
We are the media.
We can change this country for the better.
We have an extraordinary opportunity ahead of us to completely dismantle and to change forever the way that this country operates.
And to do that, you have to change the culture.
You have to change the way that people are consuming information.
And the destruction of this ecosystem, of state-funded media, it is so unfair to people like us.
I mean, they'll never tell you I'm a victim.
We're so proud of all the work that we do here.
We're happy to have worked four, five, 7,000 times harder than these goblins and urchins and these mutants.
That get their funding from the feds?
It's so unfair to us from a business model that our competition, a competition that we're streaming against right now, right?
The AP, New York Times, they all have channels.
We stream against them.
They're all streaming on federal dollars.
The revenue of this show gets taxed to fund our competition!
So they steal money that could go to hiring more creatives here, to expanding our operations, and then they fund our competition.
Where's my reparations?
What an effed up system.
It makes my blood boil.
Because our hearts are in this.
And it's pretty clear what we want to do here.
And what we're trying to build.
And over the last four years, we've built this show, and every single hurdle that's been put up here has been put up by our competition and our enemies using the state to attack their competition, which is definitionally fascism.
It is fascistic to use the power of the state to impoverish us, to deplatform us, to censor us, to steal our money at gunpoint.
Which is what taxes are.
Don't pay your taxes.
Go to jail.
Lose everything.
They steal my taxes.
They steal the revenue from this program.
And they fork it over to our enemies.
To our competition.
Who then turn around and write hit pieces on us.
How many times has Politico written a hit piece on us?
How many times has New York Times written a hit piece on this program and what we do?
And it's funded by us?
I was funding it the whole time?
unidentified
I was funding it.
benny johnson
And still, still, we destroy them every single day.
And still, it's like shadow boxing.
Because there is no substitute for authenticity.
There is no substitute for truth.
Reality is the undisputed world champion.
And ladies and gentlemen, we are on the side of truth and reality.
We are on the side of...
Authenticity and actually saving this country.
And we have a real audience.
They don't.
And so the moment you pull that one Jenga piece from the bottom of the stack, the whole thing comes toppling down.
And that's what we're facing right now.
We feel incredibly blessed by our Lord and Savior at this exact moment to have been able to fight through all of this.
And now we're on the winning side.
And now it's time to go in for the kill.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to gut, rip the throat out of these organs who have been financed entirely by the state.
To come for us, the hunters will become the hunted.
So we're very, very proud that President Trump's checking out our reporting in the White House.
And from the White House dais yesterday.
Oh, we were screaming when this happened.
Here's...
Carolyn Levitt calling out Politico to their faces yesterday, being like, oh, really?
That's very interesting.
Your funding's gone.
unidentified
USAID has gotten a lot of attention in the last couple of days with some of these bizarre things that we've been, taxpayers have been funding.
Now it looks like there are a couple media outlets that have been dragged into this conversation as far as USAID funding as well.
Does the president have any comment on that?
karoline leavitt
So upon coming out here to the briefing room, I was made aware of the funding from USAID to media outlets, including Politico, who I know has a seat in this room.
And I can confirm that the more than $8 million taxpayer dollars that have gone to essentially subsidizing subscriptions to Politico on the American taxpayer's dime will no longer be happening.
The Doge team is working on canceling those payments now.
Again, this is a whole-of-government effort to ensure that We are going line by line when it comes to the federal government's books.
And this president and his team are making decisions across the board on do these receipts serve the interests of the American people?
Is this a good use of the American taxpayers' money?
If it is not, that funding will no longer be sent abroad and American taxpayers will see significant savings because of that effort.
benny johnson
So proud to be in this fight with you.
You.
Love.
The chat.
Hearts out to you.
Ladies and gentlemen, on our program, just last week, the chairman of the FCC was on saying, this is illegal, what these broadcasters are doing.
I control the licenses for these broadcasters as the FCC chairman, and there's going to be some major changes.
And lo and behold, you heard it here on this show first, Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC, put this up.
This is the complaint via President Trump's campaign.
CBS has not asked for confidential or non-public treatment of these materials.
Given the value of the transparency of the public interest here, the FCC has taken two actions.
The FCC is making the materials public and available.
The FCC has concluded that the establishing a docket seeking comment on the issue and raised To serve the public interest.
People will have a chance to weigh in.
And then they released the full, unedited Kamala Harris interview.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's not good.
It's not great.
Let's begin by establishing the fact that CBS, in multiple material instances, changed Kamala's answers.
They just changed it.
They actually spliced together answers from other parts of the interview and just manipulated the entire damn thing.
None of it's real.
It's all fake.
Everything's fake.
USAID is fake.
News companies that you think are powerful are fake.
There's no authenticity, no audience, no revenue.
Nothing.
It's all fake.
You are living in a different country right now.
That you've lived in for the past 30 years.
It's a new America.
We're ripping down the facade.
None of it's been real.
You're going to see what the real left actually is.
Which is a bunch of dying, decaying old media companies that have no actual audience.
Without the federal government propping it all up and subsidizing it, it's...
It doesn't exist.
It's fugazi.
Fugazi.
It's not real.
The leftist movements aren't real either.
The country is probably like a...
We're probably 70% of the country.
Sure.
I mean, obviously, I will admit that psychotic, overly-medicated cat ladies do exist.
Unhappy cat lady moms addicted to the box of wine in their fridge, those exist.
But they're not the majority.
It's probably a 70-30 country when you get rid of all the Fed dollars psyoping the American people.
And this is a great first step.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is a great first step.
Jesse Waters did an excellent breakdown yesterday of the back and forth and everything that was changed in these interviews.
Let's begin with some of the reporting off the top.
Let's go.
jesse watters
They talked for an hour and...
unidentified
I'm trying to understand how it is that with this emphasis on the border, the numbers of crossings quadrupled under the first three years of the Biden-Harris administration.
How did that happen?
kamala harris
There are a variety of factors that relate to what we have seen globally.
And what we are not immune from at our own border in terms of what we have seen in terms of surge of immigration and irregular migration.
And there are solutions at hand, but we've got to have leaders who are solution oriented, which we've been and are.
benny johnson
It's not real.
It's not a real answer.
It's not English.
It doesn't make any sense.
We need it being solutions at the border.
That's what we have been and what we are.
That's not functional English.
It continues, ladies and gentlemen.
Here we go.
Kamala on giveaway policies.
Let's go.
jesse watters
CBS also cut out their host pressing Kamala on...
How she's going to pay for all of her giveaways.
unidentified
If all of this makes so much sense, why has this not been done?
You're dealing with a Congress that is divided, that many are in opposition to not only you, but your policies.
So how are you going to make this come true?
kamala harris
Bill, if I approached my life as though, well, it's never been done before, therefore it cannot be done, I wouldn't be sitting here in this interview with you.
unidentified
That's the truth.
What?
benny johnson
What?
unidentified
I mean, really?
benny johnson
These are the kind of questions that your taxpayer dollars and federal licenses are being used and abused to ask.
Why do you want to run for president?
Here we go.
jesse watters
60 minutes tossed Kamala.
Big fat softball.
And she swung and missed.
unidentified
The most basic of questions.
Why do you want to be President of the United States?
kamala harris
There are many reasons, but probably first and foremost, I truly believe in the promise of America.
I do.
And I love the American people.
You know, we are people who have ambition and aspirations and dreams and optimism and hope.
unidentified
That's why you want to run.
That's why you want to be president.
kamala harris
That's why I'm running.
That and some other reasons.
unidentified
You're asking the American people to make you the most powerful person on the planet.
Why do you deserve the American people's votes?
kamala harris
Well, first of all, I have a career and a history of being very clear that I think of my role of leadership, and in particular now for the last four years as vice president and moving forward as president, if the voters will have me, as being a leader on behalf of all Americans.
benny johnson
We dodged such a bullet.
Are you thankful?
But when you watch these clips, remember to go to church and to pray and to thank the Lord.
We dodged such a bullet.
ChatGPT could write such better answers than that.
None of these answers make any sense.
Kamala's not real.
Kamala's emblematic of everything that we're learning about our federal government right now and the world that we've lived in.
It's been a Truman Show.
It's all been fake.
Your media outlets are fake.
Your politicians are fake.
They're not real.
They don't have any original thoughts.
None of it makes any sense.
The Obama Foundation is fake.
All of this, the Clinton Foundation, all of these things are fake.
You know, they're all losing their money now, right?
Like the Obama Foundation has lost like billions of dollars in funding after Trump's election victory.
None of it's been real.
And it's really nice to lock into reality.
Okay.
Reality.
Kamala misgendered?
Let's go.
jesse watters
Kamala wasn't the only one having a rough night.
One of the crew guys misgendered Madam Vice President.
kamala harris
Is that what you needed?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Yes, ma 'am.
30 seconds of silence.
benny johnson
You can watch the whole thing on our social media.
We can't play the whole thing because 60 Minutes does a big copyright.
Play on it, right?
To try and make sure that people can't play the entire...
But you should see it.
It's an entire...
It's 60 minutes.
It's up.
It's a 60-minute interview.
It's up on our social media.
Here's the tweet.
And more importantly, ladies and gentlemen, here's the FCC commissioner, chairman, Brendan Carr, explaining why this is so important for the American public to understand the corruption...
Of the media that we pay for, fund and subsidize as taxpayers.
brian kilmeade
And you said you have to turn over the transcripts of the Vice President Kamala Harris' interview because of the way obviously it was edited and they're already being sued for $10 billion by the Trump team.
Are you worried about the precedent of asking for these transcripts because now everybody that has to edit down an interview with a high-profile figure will have the same situation?
unidentified
No, not at all.
What's actually interesting here is the precedent we're following is the precedent that the Democrat FCC set when it came to Fox.
There was a complaint lodged against Fox, and so they opened up a public proceeding on that, and we're simply applying that precedent.
You know, look, there's a lot of people in this country right now on the radical left that are upset about this investigation into CBS and the work that I'm doing on broadcasters.
And to sort of paraphrase Thomas Sowell, When the government has been weaponized in your favor, it feels like discrimination when all of a sudden there's even-handed treatment.
There's a lot of people that have been on sort of that upper road of the two-tiered system of government.
And what I'm here to do is apply the law evenly.
This is a rare situation where we had extrinsic evidence that CBS had played one answer or one set of words and then swapped in another set.
And CBS's conduct through this, frankly, has been concerning.
You know, look, they just did an interview with Vice President Vance.
And immediately fully disclosed the unedited transcript.
For some reason, they decided not to do that in this case.
And so we've now opened a proceeding.
We think it's in the public interest to allow people to participate and comment.
We're going to take this one step at a time at the FCC.
benny johnson
All right, ladies and gentlemen, such a great.
It's like exactly the message that Brendan Carr said on our program last week, which is it feels bias when the federal government has been weighing in on your behalf and supporting you.
It feels unfair when suddenly all that support is pulled out.
Get ready.
We're hearing a lot of rumblings.
You're going to see entire news outlets shutter.
You're going to see these massive, powerful news outlets close down after USAID stops funding them, after the feds stop funding them.
You're going to see a total resetting of the landscape.
It's going to be very, very exciting.
We're very much looking forward to covering all of it.
Here, ladies and gentlemen, as promised, this is done Multi-millions of views on our social media.
Please go over and watch the whole thing.
They copyright strike it if you play the whole thing.
So go over and watch it.
6.5 million views, 22,000 likes.
It is devastating.
And the opening shots are of Kamala Harris wiping her nose and talking about how much mold there is in the air.
It's crazy.
He spends the entire opening, and then you can see how much they play.
This little, like, cat with a ball of yarn thing.
The reporter and her are, like, tee-hee-heeing back and forth.
It's not a real...
They're not real journalists.
They're not real reporters.
It's propaganda.
It's propaganda.
It's all fake.
Listen to this.
kamala harris
Mold is up.
You know that mold is at an all-time high today.
unidentified
Which is the one thing I am allergic to.
Okay.
kamala harris
Pollen is down.
unidentified
Mold is up.
kamala harris
Mold is up.
benny johnson
There you go.
This is your federal government, ladies and gentlemen.
A heartbeat away from the presidency.
Right here.
The Democrat candidate for president without receiving a single vote.
And yet they run into the streets and they scream, they shriek like demons that Elon Musk didn't receive a single vote.
Right.
Actually, he did.
The American people did know that Elon Musk and Doge would be a package deal.
Same with RFK, same with Cash Patel, same with Pam Bondi, same with Tulsi Gabbard.
We knew that was going to be a package deal.
That is exactly what we voted for.
This is exactly what we're voting for.
Democrats shrieking in the streets.
No press conferences after Lahaina burned down in Maui.
No press conferences after Western North Carolina or Florida got battered and Americans died in hurricanes.
No press conferences at all.
No streaking.
No uniting.
No marching for any of that.
When those horrors are visited upon the American people, 100,000 deaths from fentanyl every year, nothing.
Not a peep for Lake and Riley.
Nothing.
But steal the golden goose from them, how they fund their campaigns, how they fund their activism, how they fund their media protection.
Oh, man.
It has been a three straight days of raging and terror in the streets.
So that's how you know you're over the target, ladies and gentlemen.
It's been exciting to be part of this, and Brendan Carr isn't done yet.
Brendan Carr is going to be doing a full investigation into whether ABC, NBC, and CBS deserve to have their broadcast licenses stripped from them, along with defunding...
Of NPR and PBS, that must happen.
That just seems logical at this point.
If you're going to get rid of the Department of Education, if you're going to get rid of USAID, then the logical next step is if you're going to go this hard at taxpayer-funded corporate press to attack American citizens and your political enemies, you've got to get rid of NPR's funding.
You've got to get rid of PBS.
It's the logical next step.
Here's Brendan Carr on our program saying, get ready.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
Broadcasters are differently situated.
It's not a cable channel per se.
It's not a streamer like you are.
It's not a guy on the street with a soapbox.
Again, they have this special right to use the public's airways.
In exchange for that, they have to operate in the public interest.
In fact, when it comes to places like NPR, it's doubly so.
Not only do they have to operate in the public interest.
But they have this special status because they're supposed to serve the educational needs of their community.
So they get benefits above and beyond even what regular broadcasters get as well.
And they may be hearing from me pretty soon on those issues as well.
But these particular complaints are interesting.
So at the very last minute, the 11th hour, the Biden administration came out and summarily dismissed three different complaints that were one against ABC, one against CBS, one against NBC.
the CBS one having to do with allegations of news distortion related to the 60 minutes editing of the interview with Vice President Harris.
These are not frivolous complaints.
At the end of the day, it's not entirely clear to me where we're going to land on the merits of these complaints.
But what it is clear to me is summarily dismissing them at the 11th hour was a mistake.
And so we have the bureaus reverse those dismissals.
All three of those complaints are now live before the FCC.
And I'm asking the bureaus to move forward with their information gathering in their process for treating these complaints the way they should be treated, which is, you know, certainly something not frivolous.
And we'll be looking at that.
benny johnson
There's one time that you've heard me actually scream with rage on the show, and it's when we were watching the ABC News debate together.
And do you remember David Muir sitting there and fact-checking Donald Trump's jokes?
Trump says, oh, I lost 2020 by a whisker.
And he said, I was joking when I said that.
And David Muir fact-checks him and says, it didn't sound like you were joking.
I've reviewed the tapes.
Cut their funding.
Rip their licenses away.
Let's be done with this.
This is like the final facade that needs to be like torn down to create an equal playing field.
And a final note.
I don't want federal funding.
Like, how about that?
Like, how about just create everything equal?
This show?
And independent shows versus corporate media, we beat them every single day.
We destroy them by the numbers.
Like, just evil, even the playing field.
Just have us versus them and have it be equal.
That's all that we ask for.
I don't want a special privilege.
I don't want a barge of taxpayer and money hoovered into my bank account.
With a bunch of little golden handcuffs that I'm going to cover certain things certain ways or I'm going to listen to the CIA when they tell me what to say or what to do or which elections to rig.
I don't want that.
And nobody should get that privilege.
Nobody should get that.
It should all be equal.
And then you let the chips fall where they may.
And the people who are doing it right, ladies and gentlemen, and standing up for the American people, they'll win.
Okay?
Yeah.
No more debates on mainstream media.
We said this earlier in the last year.
Debates should be independent, should be moderated by Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, and Elon Musk.
And I humbly submit myself to be a debate moderator as well.
It should be moderated by people that actually have a voice with the American people.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
We are going to be hearing from somebody who definitely has a voice with the American people.
The great Congressman Scott Perry in just a moment, but in case you're wondering how I got my dander up this morning, how we were able to stand here and part of the reason why we have a show and why we're able to defeat the corporate media is that we work harder than them.
We stand here sometimes for 12, 16 hours a day.
I don't know.
How many hours were we live last week, Klein?
We were live for 40, 40-plus hours.
We were live for 40-plus hours here.
My kids come to the studio.
I have my wife bring my kids to the studio so we can play.
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All right.
Joining us now, and it is, of course, our great honor to have the chairman of the House of Freedom Caucus, one of the few people that actually stood against the heart of darkness over the last few decades, has been the House of Freedom Caucus.
caucus now patriots in control ladies and gentlemen representative scott perry joins the show by you you you you you Thank you so much, Congressman, for being on the show.
This has got to be music to your ears, all of the government waste that is being cut.
It makes us very angry.
I think perhaps deservedly so because What we realize is that our competition in the media space and in the broadcasting space has been totally wholesale funded and protected by the feds.
And that's not a free market, Congressman.
scott perry
No, it's not, Benny.
It's so awesome to be with you.
I loved your last segment.
And, you know, look, I'm in the middle of this.
I'm in the fight.
And you think you, like, I think that we know a lot of what's going on because we're right here in the face of it, even though we can never seem to get the information out right.
Yesterday I learned that USAID, I'm on the Foreign Affairs Committee, we deal with USAID every year.
I had no idea USAID is paying for Politico, the people that are wandering around the halls of the Capitol chasing us down with these inane questions about, you know, did you stop beating your wife yet?
And so our government is paying for this propaganda, and we didn't even know.
And, you know, I listen to you.
You say it's all fake.
It's a fugazi and all that stuff.
I remember one time I was talking to a campaign consultant about how I wanted to communicate with my bosses.
And I said, you know, we need to do it this way.
And he said, yeah, we'll put some simulated information on there.
That's what you're talking about.
That was Kamala Harris's...
That's her word salad.
It's simulated information.
And, of course, the networks, they're all buddy-buddy.
It's all a grift.
Washington, D.C. is a grift.
The media is a grift.
The whole thing, like you said, we're all living in the Truman Show.
And the wonderful thing is, look, we've been shouting from the mountaintops, particularly about USAID, for years, about all these crazy programs.
No one hears this.
The advent of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Doge, and the breadth and the expanse of the conversation has changed the battlefield completely.
People know immediately, and they look at this stuff and they say, Are you kidding me?
And of course, we're so gratified.
We've been screaming and saying, like, why doesn't anybody hear us?
You know why?
Because Politico doesn't report on it.
You know why?
Because they're being paid for by those people to not report on it.
benny johnson
Yes.
It's amazing because people don't understand.
I was a Capitol Hill reporter for a long time, Congressman.
They don't understand how oppressive it is to have some little goblin following you and running after you and screaming questions like, Why are you a racist?
Why do you hate little babies so much?
I mean, constantly.
It's actually oppressive.
scott perry
I don't mind answering legitimate questions, but you got it right.
They always set it up so that no matter which way you answer, you're some guy that needs to be shoved into the dustbin of history, and they set it up so that you're going to be vilified.
And they're not journalists.
They are leftist activists with a press pass.
That's all they are.
But they want you to believe they're journalists.
And of course, you mentioned NPR.
I hope you told your audience, I've got the bill to defund them.
We tried last year.
We've tried a whole bunch.
It's just taxpayer-funded propaganda.
And by the way, didn't you ever notice, since you're paying for it with your taxes, yet if you watch the programming, you're going to see commercials?
Commercials.
They are getting commercial sponsorship.
So if they can get commercial sponsorship, why are your tax dollars paying for it?
And then how is it in the public interest?
How is it unbiased?
It's completely biased.
That's the point.
benny johnson
My production team is fining the bill itself, and we'll pop it up on screen.
Thank you so much for authoring that bill, Congressman.
This is obviously a conflict of interest, right?
So in the journalistic...
You can't be totally funded by the oil companies and then be reporting on oil all day.
That would be seen as unethical.
You'd get your press credentials pulled and you'd be told that you're an activist, obviously.
You're not a journalist.
At what point do we start pulling the press credentials of journalists?
Politico got a little spanking yesterday at the White House from Carolyn Levitt and President Trump over the top this morning on Truth Social, saying, how can you be trusted to report on the federal government when you're taking $37 million from the feds?
unidentified
Yes.
scott perry
Yesterday, when this Politico reporter...
Kind of questioned me.
It was on conflicts of interest.
Get this right.
He questioned me on the conflicts of interest with Elon Musk taking a look at the books, but didn't get the irony of the fact that Politico was just outed as taking federal money to report propaganda that they see fit.
He didn't see that as a problem.
It actually is breathtaking.
You've got to almost admire.
You know, they're gravitas.
They have no self-awareness of their own hypocrisy.
benny johnson
Yeah.
I mean, at some point, you've got to pull the credentials.
At some point, you've got to say, you're conflicted of interest.
You've got to reapply.
scott perry
You're not reporters.
You're not journalists.
This is not a news outlet.
You are leftist with a press pass.
It's okay that you are that.
But let's just identify you.
And oh, by the way, can we have all our money back now?
benny johnson
That's exactly right.
Where's my reparations?
Yes.
Where's my reparations?
We had to build it from scratch.
We had to bootstrap every employee at this company.
We had to bootstrap.
We have 20 people that work with us and that create creators and we're job creators and providers in this space.
For young patriots that want to help and serve their country.
But it's hard.
It's really tough sometimes.
And you want to have the greatest possible capacity to build and make careers.
But then you look across the way and you see $50 million for the New York Times?
scott perry
What could you do?
What could you do with millions of dollars?
benny johnson
It's totally, yeah.
It's unbelievably unfair.
It's unfair to every creator on our team.
It's unfair to our channel.
Thank you for setting it right.
We're going to pop on screen here from your website, sir.
Congressman Scott Perry introduces No Propaganda Act.
U.S. Representative Scott Perry, you are the one fighting for that.
You have the actual bill here on the floor.
Can you give us an update on this?
And more importantly, where's the spine for Republicans to just go ahead and do this?
They've been talking about defunding NPR for the last 20 years.
scott perry
Oh, yeah, but because it's more simulated information.
You said it right, Benny.
They've been talking about because they want you to believe they're actually doing, but actually they're only talking.
So we're seeking co-sponsors.
We'd like to get it marked up.
We'd like to take input, make the bill better if we need to.
Let's get it on the floor.
Let's vote.
But I hate to say this, but there's a lot of people in Washington, D.C. that love the simulated information.
So they want you to believe they're doing something about it by talking about it.
When they absolutely have no intention of doing something about it.
This isn't the first time I've introduced this bill, but we can't seem to get any traction.
And look, you know, I love my colleagues.
My job is to work with them and try and do the best I can.
But let's face it, if this was a priority for them, this would be moving.
benny johnson
Yeah.
It does seem, however, that you could defund NPR, presumably from the executive branch as well, right?
Like, wouldn't you?
The president...
scott perry
This president, he could impound it.
But I would say this, Benny.
Look, we love the things that the president's doing.
But for them to endure, Congress needs to step up and make sure we pass laws that he can sign so that the next leftist that becomes the president somehow can't just undo all the hard work and effort.
And so we need to do our job here.
And so, you know, I stand for things.
And they come after me when I stand for things.
Other members see that and they say, I don't want any of that.
That's a hard life, Perry.
We don't want any of that action, so we'll talk about it, but if we don't do anything, nobody can really blame us.
benny johnson
Congressman, since you're on the Foreign Affairs Committee, and then I want to move over to oversight, but just one more question on this.
Did you know that USAID, we did some research this morning, did you know that USAID funded 6,200 journalists, 707 news outlets in 30 different countries?
You're on Foreign Affairs.
Surely they would have to answer to you for this.
scott perry
Yeah, we get five minutes of questioning.
You have to dig through stuff.
We focused on all the DEI stuff for the most part, but I literally did not know that.
I found out yesterday when the rest of the world did.
And thank goodness for Doge.
benny johnson
Yeah, that's insane.
Right?
Yes, exactly.
So House Freedom Caucus plus government oversight, you're on both.
This has got to be some of the greatest couple weeks of your life.
What's coming next, right?
I have a feeling that we haven't even seen the true heart of darkness inside of the federal government.
Can you lay out like a roadmap for where Doge is going to go and what we can expect to see next uncovered?
scott perry
Well, I know that I'm talking to Doge about the fact that we're spending millions of dollars in Afghanistan, which actually...
It's going to fund the terrorists that fight America, not only just in Afghanistan, but around the globe.
So I'm talking to them about that.
When you see somebody like Elon Musk in Treasury or at NOAA, you know that things are going to be happening.
I think they're looking line by line.
And look, people are complaining.
My constituents, some of them are complaining to you.
What are you doing about this?
How do they have access?
And I say to my constituents, why don't you have access?
Like, is it secret where we're spending our money?
And if it is secret, why is it secret?
And so I know that there's a lot of climate activists in NOAA, and I know that there's a lot of problems at Treasury where we're spending the money.
And I think if people just find out about it, they're going to be up in arms about it.
So I think there's a lot of money to be saved, but it's going to put the finger on Congress to actually do these things beyond what the president can do.
Trillions of dollars being wasted.
How about the national emergencies?
Dozens of them that last for years.
There's a national emergency for when the Iran hostages were taken hostage back in the '70s.
Where's all that money?
Do you know that we don't have one receipt for all the money spent on the Chinese pandemic?
We don't have one receipt.
Where is all the money?
What did we spend it on?
And if we haven't spent it all...
Who's using it for what right now?
I think those are the questions.
That's why Washington, D.C. is shaking its boots, because they're used to those slush funds.
You American people, you shut up.
You pay your taxes.
We'll handle where the money goes, because all our friends are living around here, being hooked up to this program, and you just keep paying, and smart people will do.
The best thing on your behalf, because you're dumb rubes, and go out and deal with your families, work on your car, live your hard life, we'll make it great for you.
I think that's all going to be, the curtain's going to be yanked back right now, and that's why this town is quaking right now.
benny johnson
It's almost like the president's listening to you in real time.
He posted on Truth Social, as you're saying this, Congressman, wait until Doge looks into Iraq and Afghanistan war funding.
scott perry
Yes.
Exactly, yeah.
benny johnson
And who got paid out, noting that Liz Cheney is one of the people who were spawned out of USAID, along with your colleague AOC.
Very ironic.
scott perry
Very ironic.
Just like the preacher that chastised President Trump at the National Cathedral, and we just found out that she was on the grift taking money to move illegal migrants into the United States of America.
Who knew?
Like, oh, surprise, surprise, right?
benny johnson
Man, it sure would be nice to get some answers here.
It'd be nice to have Congress be able to subpoena people and do exactly what the left did to people like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro and those who are non-cooperative.
Is that going to be happening for somebody like Dr. Fauci or Liz Cheney?
I mean, you just talked about COVID, the Iraq War, Afghanistan.
Yeah.
These people have committed such severe crimes that before they were even charged, the president, outgoing Joe Biden, decided to pardon them all.
It seems to me they're showing their hand here, right?
scott perry
Absolutely.
And look, I sure hope so.
We have, in the military, we describe it as a target-rich environment.
They're all around us, right?
You say, well, we're surrounded, but, I mean, we have the weapons, and so we should be looking at every single one of these things.
I listened to the FCC chairman on the clip that you played where he said it was a mistake for the Biden administration to resolve those issues.
It was a mistake.
It was by design.
They don't want anybody looking.
And so we have so much to look at right now.
I think we need to increase dramatically the size of the Weaponization Committee and probably the Oversight Committee so that we can get to all these issues.
Every committee should be doing robust oversight.
Based on what we're finding now, the government, as we know, as you know, has become way too big, way too involved in every aspect of our life.
Thousands and thousands of employees, many of them obviously not showing up for work.
I happen to just know that because I handle federal buildings where we have, I think, 250 million square feet of office space of which about...
There's no more than 50%, 49% of it being used at any one time.
I mean, these are horrific just discrepancies and waste that the American people can't afford while we're driving our country into debt.
So we've got, man, we've got a lot to look at.
benny johnson
Yeah, so it's, I mean, I don't even get started on the Pentagon budget, but as a retired Brigadier General.
scott perry
There's waste there too.
Waste there too.
benny johnson
Yeah.
scott perry
I watched it happen.
Yep.
Nothing is sacred.
We got to look at everything.
It is our job, even the things we loved.
I love serving in uniform, but it broke my heart.
Look, I'm a frugal guy.
I grew up in a frugal household.
We didn't have electricity or running water.
I don't throw anything away.
And to watch them throw connexes of material aid, to watch them destroy brand new vehicles because it costs too much to bring them home.
That's unacceptable to me.
It's unacceptable to the American taxpayer that gets up in the morning and works hard to play by the rules to have their stuff just thrown away willy-nilly like that.
Whether you're in uniform or not, it is unacceptable.
benny johnson
So do you think it's a good use of resources to pack those C-17s filled with criminal aliens and send them back home or to Guantanamo Bay?
I'm not sure if you've ever been to Guantanamo Bay.
A lot of people who've served have, or at least know, a great deal about it.
scott perry
I spent one day there.
unidentified
Did you?
scott perry
Yes, I did.
Not a great place, right?
benny johnson
You don't want to go there, right?
scott perry
You don't want to go there, right?
I'm very frustrated by the Biden administration releasing terrorists.
Who will then find themselves back on the battlefield?
That's who's running Afghanistan right now.
Some of those very Gitmo terrorists that were released.
So I don't like that, but the facility's there.
We own it, so we ought to use it.
And if we have these people in America and we need space, there's no reason they can't go there.
Like, we don't have a lot of money.
We don't have any extra money.
So I love the fact that, like Columbia, my mother's Colombian, but they said to the president, "You're not going to send your people here.
American planes aren't going to land here." And the president, like, you know, 20 minutes later, they said, oh, our bad, we'll take them.
And, you know, the president's sending American planes there.
What would be even better if Colombia would come up and pick up their criminals and take them back home, like all these other countries that have sent them to us?
That would be better.
benny johnson
So this has got to be, again, watching the U.S. military realign has got to be a really...
Incredible thing for you.
I mean, it's got to be Christmas morning every single day.
It certainly is for us.
When you watch Mark Milley and having his portraits taken down and then a guy getting his, you know, potential demotion as a brigadier general yourself, I wanted to get your opinion on that.
And it seems like he might be facing potential disciplinary action as well in retirement.
scott perry
Yeah, I don't know if we can discipline him, but look, I was never a fan of General Milley.
I think that the things that he did were highly questionable, and we throw this word around too lightly in America, treasonous, but when I know that he was collaborating, and I think I used that term correctly, with the Chinese Communist Party behind the commander-in-chief, I think that needs a robust investigation.
Swept that under the rug and dismissed it out of hand.
But I think that that deserves a second look.
We really need to understand exactly what happened there and understand that the Chinese Communist Party is not our strategic adversary.
They're not a competitor.
They're the enemy of the United States of America.
And for General Milley to collaborate with them and say, look, I'm going to let you know if this...
Crazy guy that the American people elected is going to do anything.
Look, you know, the army is a place where you take orders.
And I get it.
So if you can't take orders anymore, do the honorable thing and resign.
But do not stab your country and your commander in the back.
That is unacceptable.
And that is something that should be prosecuted.
benny johnson
Wow.
Those are strong words, Congressman.
scott perry
Look.
I got an order one time that I decided I could not carry out.
And I just said to myself, I've been in this man's army for a long time.
I served for over three decades.
And I said, when you can't take orders anymore, it's time to go.
And so I just tendered my resignation and I moved on with my life.
That's the appropriate thing to do, not to stand there and say, oh, you know, I'm going to go collaborate with the people that are trying to destroy our country.
That is not the answer, obviously.
And I don't think we ever really got to the bottom of it because the left-wing media just dismissed it because it was Trump and everything was okay as long as you were resisting Trump.
You agreed to serve, you're wearing the uniform, you take orders, you carry out the orders, or you don't wear the uniform and you don't serve.
It's very simple.
benny johnson
I don't want to get too personal here, but were the orders to study white rage?
I want to find out about white rages.
Such an embarrassment, man.
scott perry
No, that wasn't the order, but it was something along that line.
unidentified
Really?
scott perry
Morally, I just...
benny johnson
DEI training.
Yeah, okay.
scott perry
That kind of stuff.
benny johnson
That's right.
Changing your pronouns to Zay Zay.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
So on a broader scale, and in conclusion here, government oversight is going to be a real hot ticket.
Obviously, in this era of Doge, zooming sort of out when you look at the people who are insubordinate across the government, at the FBI, the CIA, I guess, was given all of their resignation letters, like the entire staff of the CIA were handed resignation letters.
Apparently, tens of thousands of feds have now taken their resignations and said, yeah, this is the way to go.
You're seeing a lot of...
You know, frictions that are being created right now inside of these agencies.
And what's going to happen specifically with intelligence, with the FBI and CIA?
And that seems to be sort of the brick wall that oversight slams into all the time.
James Comer, Jim Jordan, always telling us on this program, they can't get anything out of the FBI.
They can't get anything out of the feds.
They can't get anything out of the intelligence agencies.
Is Trump actually going to be able to reform them?
How will you help him do it?
scott perry
Well, first of all, I'm on oversight and intelligence.
New sheriff in town on the Intelligence Committee.
New sheriff in town on the FBI shortly.
New sheriff in town at the CIA.
And I think that there is going to be a reset.
There needs to be a reset, especially for the CIA.
Needs to be outward looking.
You know, they surveilled members of Congress.
And oh, by the way, members of Congress happen to be Americans.
So why would you keep files on members of Congress?
What's the justification?
Unless you're telling me they're collaborating with foreign enemies.
And if they are, God bless them.
But what are we doing about that?
But the point is, is they've become inward looking.
And we all know this.
You know, I was persecuted personally and politically because of my affiliation with the president.
So was he.
And so I think you're going to see some very big changes there.
And I think we are going to see an opening up of these things.
And I would say this for all the employees that are working there, many of them on the right path, doing the right thing.
But there's a new boss in town.
You've got to make a decision just like if you're wearing the uniform.
If you're not going to support your new boss's agenda and the mandate from the American people, God bless you.
We understand.
It's time for you to move on to the next part of your career.
But what's not acceptable is for you to stay there and be an insurgent.
That is not part of the protocol.
So you either agree with it and can implement it because that's your job.
Or you move on to something else.
And if you're not going to move on to something else and try and stay and burrow in and work against the president's agenda and the American First agenda, then I think you're going to be ferreted out and you will be leaving under different conditions in that circumstance.
benny johnson
Yeah.
We've already seen a couple of security walkouts at the FBI for various individuals.
A couple of people needing to actually be physically removed from their offices.
scott perry
It's not with malice.
We have a job to do here.
You don't want to do it.
We get that.
But we're not going to pay you to not do the job, right?
You wouldn't do that in your own business.
You employ people.
you pay for their car payments and their mortgage payments, their hopes and dreams, because they're doing the work that Benny Johnson needs them to do.
If they're there doing work for your competitors or trying to submarine and tank your mission, you're not gonna keep paying them.
Why would the federal government do that?
It's just common sense.
No other business operates this way and neither should the federal government.
That's the long and short.
We're not mad about it, but you just gotta move on to something else.
benny johnson
Yes, exactly.
And the federal government shouldn't be protecting Jeffrey Epstein.
scott perry
Indeed.
benny johnson
Indeed.
Yes, yes.
scott perry
Let's know all the answers, right?
We want to know all the answers.
And oh, by the way, the president gave the order on JFK and RFK.
And so, you know, I know that the current director of intelligence is slow rolling that.
Americans, that's our information.
It's not their information.
It's not the intelligence agency's information.
It is our information.
Let's have it.
benny johnson
That's right.
Let's have it.
Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who lets them have it every single day is the great Scott Perry, a man who has so honorably served his country and is also representing the newly read state, hopefully permanently, of Pennsylvania and making Pennsylvania Florida.
scott perry
Trending in the right direction.
Trending in the correct direction.
benny johnson
Everybody go ahead and follow the great congressman.
Thank you so much, sir.
scott perry
Thank you.
God bless you.
Have a great day.
benny johnson
All right.
Man, Donald Trump at a prayer breakfast this morning saying some very fascinating things.
I wanted to hop in here just very quickly on President Trump's address to the national prayer breakfast.
Let's bring religion back.
Let's bring God back into our lives.
Goodness, such important messaging.
Maybe we should have led with it.
President Trump announces, as of this morning, that he'll be signing an executive order to make Attorney General Pan Bondi the head of a task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias.
Ah!
Every day!
Christmas!
Every day!
Let's go!
donald j trump
To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive order to make our...
Attorney General, who's a great person.
She's going to be a great Attorney General.
Pam Bondi.
The head of a task force, brand new, to eradicate anti-Christian bias.
About time, right?
Anti-Christian bias.
benny johnson
Executive Order, Donald Trump is signing.
I have told you many times on this program that I will physically crawl on my hands and knees to carve Donald Trump's face into Mount Rushmore with my own artistic skills and with a hammer and a chisel and do it the old Egyptian way if Donald Trump gets rid of the IRS.
Donald Trump gets rid of the IRS.
That's how we can actually hire at this company to destroy forever New York Times and Politico, AP and Reuters.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is, of course, the number one burden on all Americans is the income tax.
It's totally illegal.
It shouldn't actually be.
The federal government doesn't need this much money.
We're in debt.
We need to pay off that debt.
We can do that with tariffs.
Get rid of the IRS.
Abolish the IRS.
Abolish the income tax.
Let's freaking go.
Donald Trump saying that he wants to create his own sculptures here.
Donald Trump saying he signed an executive order to create a new national park of American heroes.
Let's go.
donald j trump
The stories of legends like Washington, Winthrop, and Williams remind us that without faith in God there would be no American story.
Every citizen should be proud of this exceptional heritage.
We have an unbelievable...
And we have to use that and make life better for everyone.
That's why as we approach the 25th times 10th anniversary, think of that, 250 years we'll be celebrating next year of our country's founding.
I have signed an executive order to resume the process of creating a new national park full of statues of the greatest Americans who ever lived.
We're going to be honoring our heroes, honoring the greatest people from our country.
We're not going to be tearing down.
We're going to be building up.
It will be called the National Garden of American Heroes.
Some of you will be on.
benny johnson
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I can't wait.
I have some suggestions for the new park, and it will be probably a regular visit from me and my family.
What a great place to take your kids, right?
What an incredible moment that we've lived through.
We did help fund and promote.
We have a giant statue of President Trump with his fist in the air.
We think it'll probably be a national monument eventually one of these days.
We have a photo of it, actually.
There is this giant statue of President Trump raising his fist that was created.
Alex, can you go grab that?
And maybe this should be one of the first things that go into the new national park.
This is driving around on the flatbed of a truck.
It was supposed to drive down the parade route in Washington, D.C., but we didn't...
That didn't actually end up happening, sadly.
That's kind of what it looks like.
ALX will get you the actual statue.
It's really impressive.
We will be the Salvation Army guy with the bell.
Let's get the statue made.
Look at that sucker.
It's like 30 feet tall.
Giant Donald Trump with his fist in the air.
There are better images, but this is just the fabric—you see the fabrication of it, this massive statue.
Maybe there can be a feature piece in the—there we go.
unidentified
There we go.
benny johnson
Look at that.
That's great.
That looks great.
Maybe this can be a feature piece.
Like, an entire park filled with statues like this?
Come on, man.
Donald Trump, in conclusion of his remarks today at the prayer breakfast, is talking about his assassination attempt.
donald j trump
Honestly, it changed something in me.
I feel even stronger.
I believed in God, but I feel much more strongly about it.
Something happened.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you.
benny johnson
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
We are very excited to be welcoming to the program someone who joined President Trump at the White House.
Yesterday, this is a member of our team.
We've talked a little bit about our team here.
The reason why I get my dander up, as they say, about the employees at this company and the deep and abiding unfairness of rigging the media ecosystem against independent creators is because we're very proud to provide careers and jobs here for young and dynamic independent creators.
Is Jamie Mitchell.
Jamie Mitchell runs a group called Gays Against Groomers.
You can also find her at The Gay Who Strayed.
She's a designer on our team.
She's been fighting against child butchering and mutilation for years.
Was one of the original voices calling out from the wilderness about this.
Back when it cost her...
Pretty much everything.
But Jamie Mitchell won yesterday.
Jamie was at the White House for President Trump's signing of a document, an executive order, that permanently established that there would be no men in women's sports locker room or spaces, That there are actually two genders As As God has set forth First lines in the book of Genesis Actually And
And Jamie, fresh off of her experience at the White House with a lot of fun photos and takeaways, joins the program live now.
you you you Jamie, we are so very proud of you on this program.
We have a lot of fun assets.
I mean, it looks like you had an amazing seat in the house.
A lot of guests from this show that were in the room.
Also, some regulars.
How was it yesterday for President Trump's historic signing of this executive order?
jaimee michell
Well, thanks for having me on, Benny.
And thanks for your support, you know, with all that I've been doing with Gays Against Groomers.
But yeah, I'm still kind of riding the high.
I'm still not 100% sure if that was real, that I was really in that room yesterday.
It was monumental.
You know, this is something that we've been fighting for for so long.
And as Trump said, it's just common sense.
But to to be in that room and that's the closest I've ever been to Trump and that man actually has like a real aura about him.
Like you can feel the energy shift when he walks in the room and just being near him.
It's very surreal.
But I mean it was incredible to be a part of it and I'm so honored that you know our work has been recognized in the fight to end the war on Insanity, really, and the war on children.
It's absolutely crazy that this is even something that we have to do, that these are orders that Trump has to sign and things that even need to come out of our mouths.
It's just like, how did we get here?
But very quickly, I mean, it has been mind-blowing to me in the best way to see how quickly Trump has taken action against these things and how high up he has prioritized them.
But yeah, it was just remarkable, and I'm so honored.
Still can't believe it happened.
benny johnson
What a fun little role.
I'm like watching your camera roll here from the White House.
It just looks amazing.
I mean, I posted this photo and I was like, this is clearly the strongest defense of women in political history.
And no Democrat, living or dead, has ever defended women more than what President Trump just did.
I hope that that translates, right?
I don't know.
I wasn't in the room, but I think it will.
I think it will for women and then also for the men who want to have their daughters and wives protected.
This is the strongest protections for women, for anyone of any party in any administration ever.
Do you agree?
jaimee michell
Yep.
Oh, 100%.
And I really think the left, I mean, they have been imploding.
They have been going absolutely apoplectic for the past two weeks between Trump and Elon.
But seeing this photo, you know, this so-called the biggest misogynist in the world, you know, surrounded by hordes of women and girls.
Signing into law a protection for them, for their rights, for their safety, for their fairness.
I don't know how the left really squares that one and how they keep these lies going.
I've seen some people on X saying, how dare all these people support Trump?
J.K. Rowling came out supporting Trump and people are quote tweeting that saying, thanks for coming out supporting the biggest misogynist in the world.
And it's like, do you understand?
What you're saying here, how are you a real person?
It's just so crazy.
I think that the jig is up and people are not stupid.
The left has been thinking that the American people are very stupid for a very long time and we're not.
And we see what's going on, you know, and reality is making a comeback thanks to President Trump and thanks to all of our hard work at Gays Against Groomers, my entire team.
There's over a hundred of us working extremely hard every single day.
No backing, no USAID dollars, that's for sure.
I wish we could have seen some of that, actually.
No, I'm just kidding.
I would never want that kind of money.
But, you know, we do it all independent.
And it's just our voices speaking out from inside the community because our community, we have been used as scapegoats to kind of push this disgusting agenda on children.
And the majority of us, I truly believe, want to stop it and are strongly against it.
But that's why Gays Against Groomers, our voice is so important, you know, because they have a harder time calling us homophobic and transphobic, even though they still try, but it doesn't really seem.
stick as well.
benny johnson
Yeah, they've tried to call JK Rowling that multiple times.
Here's the tweet thread this morning where she's responding to your group.
This is obviously the very famous, very prominent author of the Harry Potter series.
And this, plus new polling.
from Fox News shows you've won, I mean, you won, Jamie.
And here's 18% believe that transgender athletes should be allowed to compete in women's sports.
80% of the country say no.
These numbers would probably, four years ago, it would probably have been a 50-50 issue.
And this shows the power of the work that you've done.
jaimee michell
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, it's remarkable to see how far this conversation has come.
Four years ago, this wasn't even in the national discourse.
People didn't really know what was going on.
And we have been sounding the alarm.
Gays Against Groomers has been around almost three years now, so we've been sounding the alarm for quite a while, along with so many other people in this fight.
It's definitely not just us.
You see Riley Gaines up there.
Billboard Chris has been incredible.
All the Congress people that were in that room yesterday have been fighting so hard.
Nancy Mace, Marjorie Taylor Greene, so many more.
I mean, it's impossible to list off all the people that have really had an impact in this fight.
But to see how far we've come in just a short amount of time.
And I mean, this to me is the most uniting issue in the world.
Gays Against Groomers is a nonpartisan organization.
And we have found, despite what the media says and the Democrats, the officials, everybody supports this issue of protecting children.
No child can consent to Chopping off healthy body parts or chemically castrating themselves.
It's absolutely insane that this is even up for debate.
And yeah, I mean, girls deserve their own spaces.
They work their entire lives to be the best in their sport just for a mediocre male to come along and strip everything away from them.
It's just, you know, the people, where are the women's march?
You remember just a few years ago, there was a giant women's march with their silly pink hats.
It's like, where did those people go?
Donald Trump is the one standing up for women and girls everywhere.
I'm overwhelmed with happiness that this moment has come.
We were literally a millimeter away from the complete opposite reality from Butler.
I'm just proud of our team, proud of all the work we've made in the progress.
unidentified
This is what actual progress looks like, by the way.
jaimee michell
This is actual progress.
So it's been wonderful to be a part of and such an honor, again, to be welcomed in the White House and acknowledged for our part in it.
So, wonderful day.
benny johnson
Well, we have a photo that we regularly put up on the program.
We don't need to put it up now, but it's of Harvey Weinstein marching in the Women's March.
That's where they were, Jamie, to answer your question.
They were all marching with Harvey Weinstein to protect women's rights.
That's what was happening.
He was wearing a little pussy hat.
He's wearing one.
Harvey Weinstein.
So just in case you're wondering if everything's fraudulent and fake.
jaimee michell
Literally.
benny johnson
And we lived in a fake world in a literal Truman Show.
Yes, it's true.
So you weren't in a fake world.
Here's a photo of you at the White House yesterday.
Just a takeaway, Jamie.
What was it like there?
What was the vibe of the White House?
Did you get a pen, right?
And what was your favorite member of Congress that you met?
jaimee michell
I didn't get a pen.
He gave those out to all the little girls that were surrounding him, and I was totally fine with that.
It was just, I keep saying the word surreal, but, you know, I have been so obsessed with politics my whole life.
You know, even before Gays Against Groomers, like I, as the gay who strayed, and that's why I love working with you on this team as well, because, like, I'm just so tuned in anyways to every little thing that happens, and to be there and to just be around it, around such...
An historical place.
And it is a day.
It may be the best day.
One of the best days of my life.
I think my wedding day.
unidentified
My wife is going to get mad if I say it was the best day.
jaimee michell
But no, it was incredible.
My favorite member of Congress, gosh, that's hard.
Honestly, at the moment, I got to give a shout out to Nancy Mace because she has just been going in with her flamethrower, nuking gender ideology and the trans madness.
You know, when I saw her, it was so funny.
I went up to her.
I said, hi, I'm Jamie Michelle, the founder and president of Gays Against Groomers.
And she goes, shut up.
unidentified
I effing love you guys and gave me a giant hug.
jaimee michell
It's just like, you know, we're allied very strongly in what we're fighting for.
That was my first time actually meeting her in person, so that was wonderful.
Meeting so many of them, it was just great to rub elbows and introduce myself.
So many of them have heard about the work that we do and have heard about our organization.
It's just remarkable what we've been able to accomplish in just a few years.
Look, the executive orders are amazing.
It's a huge step, but the fight isn't over.
There's going to be lawsuits and people, private companies and hospitals and schools and all this stuff, it's still going to be happening.
But I think that there's going to be a massive chilling effect going on because people are scared, especially federally funded.
So it's making a huge impact, but there's still a lot of work to do and we are not going to stop until...
This evil agenda is buried deep in the ground forever.
benny johnson
Yeah, there's a number of states that just sued the president in order for the right to continue to butcher children.
We often...
Pivot to the scriptures in these moments.
And Christ says, if you harm the hairs on one of these little kids, it's better for you to have a giant rock hung around your neck and thrown into the depths of the ocean.
Don't do it.
It's immoral.
It's monstrous.
It's actual butchery.
And one of the people who stopped it, ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to have on our team.
Her name's Jamie.
You should follow her right now.
And also, you...
I love all of the graphics that she makes for this program.
And she's a real artist.
And so, ladies and gentlemen, you can go over to her website as well and support Gays Against Rumors as well.
A huge victory for Jamie.
I'm not tired of winning yet, Jamie.
jaimee michell
No, I am getting a little exhausted, though.
I mean, it's like I can't put my phone down for two minutes.
I miss, like, an earth-shattering breaking news.
benny johnson
I'm like, I can't sleep.
jaimee michell
I don't know how he does it.
I don't know how he does it.
He's a madman.
With so much energy, I can't believe it.
But yes, thank you so much.
And if people want to go to gaysagainstgroomers.com, we are completely self...
Supported just by small, small donations from our supporters.
GazeAgainScroomers.com, you can donate there, get some of our merch.
We have some books that we put out.
So yeah.
And thank you, Benny, for letting me come on and talk about this incredible experience and historic moment in our nation and for the protection of women and children.
benny johnson
That's right.
The most pro woman.
The largest defender of women's rights that has ever held office is President Trump.
So cry more about it.
Godspeed, Jamie.
We're proud of you.
unidentified
Talk to you.
Talk to you.
benny johnson
In case you're wondering, ladies and gentlemen, this is a real photo of Harvey Weinstein at the Women's March.
This was the Women's March in Aspen.
So you can see Harvey Weinstein there lurking.
And mouth-breathing?
These are your left-wing activists, you see.
There you go.
The Obamas sent their pre-teen daughters to go work for Harvey Weinstein.
This is the first place they sent them to go work.
What does that tell you about the Obamas exactly?
I don't know.
I'll let you decide.
Sasha and Malia went to go work for Harvey Weinstein.
In their first jobs.
They got internships with him.
Real sickos, ladies and gentlemen.
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What a...
We could have done a whole show on just this final topic here, but we touched on it yesterday, so I feel like we have to follow through.
And as ever, the topics that we talk about here on the show end up...
Being the lead for Jesse Waters' program.
ALX is howling with laughter with that one.
No hate.
No hate.
Nothing but love.
But we do feel oftentimes like we're producers for Jesse Waters' show with some of our content selection and some of the graphics that we make.
And it's an honor, actually.
It's our great honor, in fact.
We want to be the trendsetter for the entire movement.
And nothing but love for Jesse and his team.
USAID and the CIA were unified in creating President Trump's first impeachment.
This was an op that was funded entirely by USAID.
We mentioned this on the program yesterday.
We spent considerable time breaking it down.
And ladies and gentlemen, Michael Schellenberger was on Jesse Waters' program and was explaining You have this new piece on Substack that the USAID and
jesse watters
the CIA helped orchestrate Trump's impeachment?
michael shellenberger
Yeah, I mean, Jesse, it's a crazy story.
I mean, you might forget that, you know, House of Representatives impeached President Trump in December of 2019.
Many people may not remember that it was a CIA analyst who was left over from the Obama White House who wrote the memo that led to the impeachment.
It was all based on hearsay.
The person had not actually been in the room with Trump.
Nonetheless, this memo that he wrote relied heavily on a report done by an organization funded by USAID.
In fact, its initial...
Founding funding, I mean, now it's tens of millions of dollars, had gone into this group called the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, a name that's not very memorable, OCCRP, but it was basically created as an extension of the State Department and then of USAID.
And as you know, Jesse, this is very serious to be involved in an effort to do regime change at home, as we've been discovering as the files have come out with what Elon Musk has been doing.
We know that USAID was really about regime change abroad.
It was a kind of public-facing regime change operation like CIA, but not covert, more overt.
Well, now you see a similar blowback, just like they did censorship abroad and brought censorship tools back home.
They were doing this sort of thing abroad, creating a predicate essentially for Trump's impeachment.
benny johnson
Talked about it on the show yesterday.
It was all an op.
This is what they do.
They stage coups around the globe.
And as Mike Pence said, everything you've seen from populist leaders being attacked through lawfare in France or Brazil, in Poland, all across Eastern Europe, all throughout the world, when a populist leader gets lawfare funded against them and these diktats ordered against them, it's part of the playbook.
Arrest immediately your opposition as soon as you win.
In a very, very narrow election decided by ballots that we just found right at the last minute.
Just, that's all we needed.
The water pipe broke and we just, there was the bag of ballots.
It was this water pipe and there's the bag.
Look at that.
That's where they were.
Yeah.
That's how, this is a sick operation.
These people are sick.
It's evil.
It's dark.
Ladies and gentlemen.
The truth is the light, and the truth shall set you free.
Our verse of the day is the light as well.
Every single day on the show, our verse of the day brings light and truth, and we can anchor our program in that truth from Jeremiah 29. For I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord.
They are the plans for good and not for disaster, to give you future and to give you hope.
I've never seen the country more hopeful than it is right now, and we join you in that.
Please join us in making sure that not only do we accept all the good things that are happening right now, but we protect them and that we fight for more.
Now is not the time to get fat and happy and satisfied and say everything's going to be good.
No, no, no.
Evil does not rest.
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Steal, kill, and destroy.
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unidentified
We really.
We really did have everything, didn't we?
I mean, when you think about it.
I'm sorry.
What difference at this point does it make?
How will you?
David, here it is.
My philosophy is basically this.
And this is something that I live by.
And I always have.
And I always will.
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been.
For any reason whatsoever, sometimes we'll start a sentence.
And I don't even know where it's going.
I just hope we find it along the way.
We can improve conversation.
conversations.
The truth gone be faith and freedom on your TV screen.
brian kilmeade
Stand up strong, battle through the night.
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The Benny shows here bringing liberty to life.
From the speeches to debates, Benny sharp like a blade.
Coming through the lies, watch the truth cascade.
With the warrior's heart, this man never fades.
brian kilmeade
You know it's primetime when Benny invades.
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From saving the nation to stories untold.
The Benny shows a storm, see the truth unfold.
Stay in the loop, let freedom take hold.
brian kilmeade
Salt on all the libs, soul never sold.
It's the Benny show, where the truth gone be.
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Faith and freedom on your TV screen.
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