Oct. 1, 2024 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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| Tonight, Senator J.D. Vance and Governor Walz will face off in the CBS News vice presidential debate. | ||
| No doubt this is going to come up with that debate, Corey. | ||
| It will likely be the last debate before Election Day. | ||
| Vance is likely to call attention to Walz's progressive record in military service and all the questions surrounding that. | ||
| Walz is expected to lean hard on his Midwestern Dad Act. | ||
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You're going to see someone who is good, who's genuine, who is that good, funny uncle that you like to hang out with, but who's going to talk about how we're going to help people get a leg up. | |
| I've spent the last month going through all of Walt's old debate footage and studying his mannerisms and policy positions. | ||
| Based on what I've seen, J.D. Vance is prepared to wipe the floor with Tim Walz and expose him for the radical liberal he is. | ||
| And I should point out that Emmer is actually playing the role of Walsh in the debate prep for J.D. Vance. | ||
| So that's how he knows so much about that. | ||
| Corey? | ||
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No, that's exactly right. | |
| Listen, Tom, Emmer knows Governor Walsh because they serve from the same state. | ||
| They served in Congress together. | ||
| Here's the other thing, right? | ||
| Governor Walz is a career politician. | ||
| 20 years in elective office. | ||
| J.D. Vance has been there for two years. | ||
| We have two candidates on the debate stage tonight who have a fundamentally different view of what America should look like over the next four years. | ||
| Tim Walz, Kamala Harris believe bigger government. | ||
| Government is the solution to everything. | ||
| Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. | ||
| You get to decide what to do with your economic success. | ||
| So, this morning we were learning that in recent polling, 72% say that they see Walsh as that nice guy. | ||
| And he is a dad from the Midwest, and that is working for him. | ||
| Real quickly, your thoughts? | ||
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He has extreme values. | |
| That's the problem. | ||
| He's an extreme leftist. | ||
| We saw what he did during the riots in Minnesota. | ||
| We saw what he has done when it comes to the issue of abortion. | ||
| Signing a bill that allows women to have abortion in the ninth month. | ||
| That's an extreme position that is outside the realm of the mainstream, and that'll be on display tonight. | ||
| Corey Lewandowski, great to have you on set. | ||
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Damn, this burger's good! | |
| Yo, Chinaman! | ||
| Take some of that American democracy b****! | ||
| You, me, rap battle now! | ||
| America, the most powerful force. | ||
| We shooting down y 'all while we winning a boss. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You think you can rap? | ||
| You probably work in a sweatshop and eat cats. | ||
| Hey, you f***ing fat, your mama told me you need a smack Chinatown here, Chinatown there, before you even know it, Chinatown everywhere What? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Could you say that again? | ||
| Cause I barely understood a f***ing word that you said. | ||
| We're the best fighter. | ||
| Nothing will be fine. | ||
| Soon the whole world will be made in China. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| What did I just watch? | ||
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What was that? | |
| Why did you come up like this? | ||
| Why does J.D. Bass's face work so good on that Pittsburgh Steelers? | ||
| What's that even from? | ||
| Jerry, how do you do it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's the dark arts. | ||
| We call it the dark arts on this October 1st. | ||
| The beautiful Tuesday debate with J.D. Vance and communist CCP assets Tim Walls. | ||
| We are very much looking forward to this debate. | ||
| It's going to be, I'd like to say, a matter of wits and wills, but I just don't think so. | ||
| I think that J.D. Vance is going to kick ass. | ||
| Of course, we'll see. | ||
| We'll see what they got up their sleeve. | ||
| But man, they've been downplaying this debate. | ||
| This debate. | ||
| And they've been downplaying it like crazy. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| Democrats are all over TV all day today, all day yesterday, being like, oh, you know, like, J.D. Vance did go to Yale, and he is a lawyer, and he's very smart. | ||
| So I don't know exactly what the strategy is going to be here. | ||
| Is the strategy going to be that J.D. Vance is now going to overperform? | ||
| Is the strategy going to be to have the reporters sicced on Vance so that... | ||
| Tim Walz doesn't even have to do anything. | ||
| Expect that. | ||
| And we have two reporters from CBS. | ||
| Why do we need two reporters from CBS? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Now apparently they're not going to fact check during the debate. | ||
| They're not going to do live fact checking during the debate. | ||
| That's been the promise. | ||
| So we'll wait and see. | ||
| I'll believe it when I see it. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to have one heck of a show for you tonight. | ||
| We got... | ||
| The great Laura Trump will be joining the program in just a moment, live from Trump Tower. | ||
| We even have the great ALX executive producer live inside of Trump Tower. | ||
| He's in the war room today. | ||
| It's going to be awesome. | ||
| We'll see if ALX can join us. | ||
| We have the extremely sharp Jim Jordan on, who's going to be talking with us about the... | ||
| Very dangerous and scary connections that Tim Walz has that they are investigating right now inside the House of Representatives with the Communist Chinese Party. | ||
| And we have on a wonderful member of Congress who's going to be able to speak about the assassination attempts on President Trump's life. | ||
| President Trump will be going back to Butler this weekend. | ||
| Expect us to be live for that. | ||
| We're working on some very special coverage of that for you right now. | ||
| But tonight is debate-mageddon. | ||
| We got J.D. Vance, senator from Ohio. | ||
| And the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz. | ||
| We've been covering Tim Walz's creepy background and past, and we want to go more into that because we've had some very shocking revelations today about what a dirty liar Tim Walz is. | ||
| Of all places, CNN. | ||
| CNN! | ||
| Coming out with the reports about how Tim Walz is a filthy liar. | ||
| Apparently, Tim Walz lied about where he was during the Tiananmen Square massacre. | ||
| Where the communist authoritarian government of China just mowed over all of the people that were fighting for democracy and slaughtered them all. | ||
| Tim Wall said he was in China, and that proved not to be true to another Tim Wall's lie. | ||
| We're going to stack them all up, ladies and gentlemen, on this program. | ||
| But first, I wanted to throw to something that the president just tweeted. | ||
| President Trump, we love the fact that Donald Trump is back on Twitter, all right? | ||
| But we... | ||
| He doesn't post the way that he used to, okay? | ||
| Mean tweets are not exactly the same as they used to be. | ||
| So when President Trump posts, it's like something of great authority. | ||
| Trump used to be ubiquitous on Twitter and posting a lot. | ||
| Now he posts everything on Truth Social. | ||
| And he tweets only sparsely. | ||
| And he tweeted something today about J.D. Vance. | ||
| And he tweeted an incredible video. | ||
| And we've talked so much about Tim Walz. | ||
| And we go on the attack so much in this program. | ||
| And it's something that our friend Vivek, It's constantly reminding me of, actually, very annoyingly reminding me of all the time, which is we need to present a positivist future for this movement. | ||
| And we need to tell stories about ourselves and what we want to do. | ||
| The Republican Party has been the party of no, has been a party of no vision, no plan, just saying no, just being like the grumpy old men. | ||
| And there's been no actual vision or story told. | ||
| Now, we've been setting about. | ||
| Telling as good of a story as we possibly can about the things, as best that we can do in our current capacity. | ||
| But I tell you, man, the Trump campaign with this Trump tweet put out a beautiful, beautiful piece on J.D. Vance and where he comes from. | ||
| So we want to start today by just letting that sort of breathe and setting the scene for who J.D. Vance is. | ||
| Fresh off the presses, directly from President Trump. | ||
| Here is the Vice President. | ||
| A lot of people feel like the American Dream is further and further away. | ||
| That if you work hard and play by the rules, it's a little bit harder to get ahead. | ||
| It's a little bit harder to support a family, a little bit harder to buy a home. | ||
| The world I grew up in was one where I think for the first time really in American history, my parents'generation did not expect their children to necessarily have a better life than they did. | ||
| And you saw that in all kinds of different ways. | ||
| There was this sense growing up in Middletown in the 1990s that a lot of people didn't expect the future to be better than the past, and that's a really unique and a really tragic thing. | ||
| The jobs started to disappear from that community, drugs started to move in, hopelessness started to move in, and so a lot of people who really knew that the future would be better than the past actually found a world that was a lot more difficult and a lot more challenging. | ||
| I wrote Hillbilly Elegy because I wanted to give people a sense of what it was like to live in a community like mine. | ||
| I didn't think a whole lot of stories were told about white working class Americans. | ||
| I didn't think a lot of stories were told about people who were struggling with some of the problems we were struggling with, joblessness, drug addiction, and so forth. | ||
| And I thought that I could tell a story that would make people understand my family a little bit better and maybe in the process understand the struggles of a lot of families. | ||
| I come from the places that I want to represent. | ||
| And what we need is to stop sending people that are of... | ||
| The DC Swamp, we need to send people who are of the places they aim to represent. | ||
| I want to fight for the people that I come from. | ||
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The American media has been laundering foreign disinformation. | |
| It is disgusting. | ||
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Instead of talking about the crises in our country, they try to silence the people who are experiencing it. | |
| Who do you want answering the phone? | ||
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Do you want a person who hides from the friendly American media? | |
| Or do you want a person who takes a bullet to the head and stands up and says, fight, fight, fight? | ||
| Kamala Harris, you ought to have respect enough for your own people to enforce their border laws and listen to them. | ||
| Listen to them when they complain about it. | ||
| Don't pretend they're bad people. | ||
| We're not bad people for loving this country. | ||
| You're a bad person for doing this to the country. | ||
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Dude, that's a good ad. | |
| That's a very chilling ad. | ||
| This is something that obviously lets you see that J.D. Vance is going to be one of the Carriers of the flame of the MAGA movement for a very, very long time. | ||
| That he's not somebody to be effed with. | ||
| And again, I look forward... | ||
| I mean, you got the cover image of this live has Tim Walls with a glittery glove on. | ||
| We spent all morning talking about strange little... | ||
| I'm Tim Walls! | ||
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I'm so excited! | |
| So exciting! | ||
| And dance kick moves that Tim Walls does. | ||
| Super creepy. | ||
| And we're gonna go in... | ||
| We're gonna... | ||
| Not pull our punches with Tim Walz. | ||
| Believe that. | ||
| But a little bit of credit where credit is due for J.D. Vance. | ||
| I mean, this guy is living truly the American story. | ||
| I hope against hope that he calls out Tim Walz for being a dirty communist. | ||
| Tim Walz is someone who has been now identified as a person who's of interest, let's just say, for communist Party influence. | ||
| Guy's been to China 30 times. | ||
| He honeymooned in China. | ||
| He lied about where he was during Tiananmen Square. | ||
| Doesn't make any sense. | ||
| The whole thing is a complete disaster. | ||
| I hope he calls him out on stolen valor. | ||
| Because he didn't engage in stolen valor. | ||
| He lied about his rank. | ||
| He lied about where he was during the war in Iraq. | ||
| This guy's a filthy liar. | ||
| This is why they get along. | ||
| Or maybe Kamala just chose him because China promised if you put in our pawn as president. | ||
| Or as vice president, Kamala Harris in charge, effectively president, then we'll make sure that everything gets rigged for you. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, we're not sure, but here's what we are sure of. | ||
| That J.D. Vance has a crystal clear, rings-like-a-bell capacity to actually make these points. | ||
| This is a clip of J.D. Vance effectively on his way to this debate today. | ||
| They're going to be doing this debate in New York. | ||
| And I watched this clip, and it's like... | ||
| A 30-second clip, and you're like, dude, this guy is functioning with 50 IQ points on J.D., on Tim Walls. | ||
| He's going to be able to make this, like, J.D. Vance makes a point. | ||
| This is why they have to try and meme J.D. Vance or try and, like, call him weird or whatever, because they know they can't win the debates. | ||
| Fair and square. | ||
| They know they can't win inside of the landscape of actual ideas when they are fairly presented. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| This clip really impressed me. | ||
| ...proposed shipping more manufacturing jobs to China, who wants to make the American people more reliant on garbage energy... | ||
| This is a guy who's proposed shipping more manufacturing jobs to China, who wants to make the American people more reliant on garbage energy instead of good American energy, and has proposed defunding the police just as Kamala Harris does. | ||
| I think it's interesting, actually, they make an interesting tag team because, of course, Tim Walz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in the summer of 2020, and then the few who got caught, Kamala Harris helped bail them out of jail. | ||
| So it is more instructive for what it says about Kamala Harris, that she doesn't care about the police. | ||
| She doesn't care about crime. | ||
| She doesn't care about American energy. | ||
| And most importantly, she doesn't care about the Americans who have been made to suffer under those policies. | ||
| J.D. Vance, again, it rings like it doesn't have the same sort of swagger in the way that Donald Trump does it, but that's okay. | ||
| This actually works great. | ||
| You don't want somebody to... | ||
| No one can out-trump Trump, right? | ||
| But it's good. | ||
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It's crisp. | |
| It's clean. | ||
| J.D. Vance's last debate performance was really sharp. | ||
| He was debating this dude named Tim Ryan. | ||
| He was kind of like squishy, kucky Democrat in Ohio who's running against him. | ||
| And this debate was happening in 2022. | ||
| I believe this would have been the year, 2022. | ||
| So this was not too long ago. | ||
| Check it. | ||
| We have a... | ||
| We have a... | ||
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Hold on, J.D., stop interrupting. | |
| This is disgusting. | ||
| Here's exactly what happens when the media and people like Tim Ryan accuse me of engaging the Great Replacement Theory. | ||
| You're peddling it. | ||
| I'll tell you exactly what happens, Tim. | ||
| What happens is that my own children, my biracial children, get attacked by scumbags online and in person because you are so desperate for political power that you'll accuse me, the father of three beautiful... | ||
| racial babies of engaging in racism we are sick of it you can believe in a border without being a racist you can believe in the country without being a racist and this just shows how desperate this guy is for political power I know you've been in office for 20 years Tim and I know it's a sweet gig but you're so desperate not to have a real job that you'll slander me and slander my family graceful. | ||
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Yo. | |
| That's kind of Trump-like, actually. | ||
| It's kind of Trump-like. | ||
| All he needs to do is say, you'd be in jail at the end of that. | ||
| And he'd be good. | ||
| And he'd be like, oh, wow. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Just get in the tanning bed and, yo, you are on your way. | ||
| This is something that we've been witnessing from J.D. Vance. | ||
| Do we know J.D. Vance personally? | ||
| He's been on the show. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
| But the people who vouch safe for J.D. Vance, guys like Donald Trump, guys like Charlie Kirk, guys like Tucker, they were all behind the scenes advocating really awesome dudes like David Sachs, who is one of those billionaires in San Francisco that threw Donald Trump a fundraiser in the heart of San Francisco. | ||
| Raised like 12 million bucks for Trump in the middle of downtown San Francisco. | ||
| Those guys are all like... | ||
| Big time team JD. | ||
| And there's a reason for that. | ||
| There's like this, there's this, when all of the people we like, we're advocating for one guy to be vice president, there's a reason. | ||
| I think it's going to become clear tonight. | ||
| But it has been clear over the last couple of weeks, Kamala Harris, without a single vote, without winning a single primary, without getting, of course, winning any states, without doing any debates, without doing any interviews. | ||
| Became the Democrat Party nominee, okay? | ||
| And they threw all of the votes, 15 million Democrats, for Joe Biden in primary and tossed them directly into a furnace, trash compactor in the middle of a volcano. | ||
| And they threw out Joe Biden. | ||
| These people will do anything for power. | ||
| This is their last demonic, scream, desperate attempt to, like, seize power or keep power. | ||
| So be it. | ||
| And in the midst of that, J.D. Vance did something that I will always say, man, good on you. | ||
| Bro walked right up to Kamala Harris' plane when it was like sort of this phenomenon like Kamala Harris wasn't doing interviews. | ||
| Bro walks right up to Kamala Harris' plane and said, listen, she won't talk to you. | ||
| Speaking to her press book, I'll talk to you. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry, boys. | ||
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Did we lose that clip? | |
| Oh, it's a throat. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Eric's telling me it's a throat. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| Let's. | ||
| Let's throw to it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
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All right. | |
| Hi, they're covering the Vice President here. | ||
| I figured I'd come by and wanted to keep a good look at the plane. | ||
| Hopefully it's gonna be my plane in a few months, but I also thought you guys might get lonely because the Vice President doesn't answer questions from reporters and hasn't for 17 days. | ||
| Have they given you guys an explanation for why she won't take questions from reporters? | ||
| No? | ||
| Nobody? | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| I hope that she changed her mind because it'd be good for the American people and I think it'd be good for you all if she actually ran a real campaign instead of one from a basement with a teleprompter. | ||
| So, have a good one, guys. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| What would you like to hear from her? | ||
| I'd love her to answer your questions. | ||
| I'd love her to just answer what she wants to do and also explain why every single position she has has changed. | ||
| She pretends to be a prosecutor, yet she's, she pretends to be a tough on crime prosecutor, and yet here she is, wanting to keep on the police. | ||
| She's the border's yard, and yet she's opened up the American Southern border. | ||
| This is a person who has to answer the question from the media, and it's disgraceful that she loves to be honest. | ||
| Anyway, we're gonna go do our event. | ||
| I appreciate you guys being here. | ||
| I wish she paid you some more attention. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| It's an alpha move. | ||
| Danny, can you grab me that photo? | ||
| Grab that photo of them all, like, laughing and walking, like, back, like, Leonardo DiCaprio from the plane. | ||
| Like, can you grab me that photo? | ||
| It's like, J.D. Vance did the meme, man. | ||
| Bro, did the meme! | ||
| He's gone hard at Tim Walls before. | ||
| J.D. Vance has said Tim Walls is a scumbag before. | ||
| And that Tim Walls abandoned his battalion, his National Guard group, right before they deployed. | ||
| He did this for political power. | ||
| He lied about his rank. | ||
| He lied about what he did during the global war on terror. | ||
| He lied about going to Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
| He allowed Nancy Pelosi to call him an Afghanistan war veteran during multiple events. | ||
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He got fake awards. | |
| And again, he declared himself a higher rank than he actually was in the military. | ||
| Guy is a dirty liar. | ||
| And J.D. Vance calling him out as somebody who actually did serve. | ||
| In the Marines, signed up, went to Iraq, and actually fought the enemy, ran towards the gunfire. | ||
| Dude, I hope they bring it up. | ||
| I really, I really, really do. | ||
| This is the last time that J.D. Vance called out Tim Walz to his face. | ||
| Now look, what really bothers me about Tim Walz, it's not... | ||
| Even the positions that he's taken, though certainly he has been a far-left radical. | ||
| You know what really bothers me about Tim Walz as a Marine who served his country in uniform? | ||
| When the United States Marine Corps, when the United States of America asked me to go to Iraq to serve my country, I did it. | ||
| I did what they asked me to do, and I did it honorably, and I'm very proud of that service. | ||
| When Tim Walz was asked by his country to go to Iraq, you know what he did? | ||
| He dropped out of the army and allowed his unit to go without him, a fact that he's been criticized for aggressively by a lot of the people that he served with. | ||
| I think it's shameful to prepare your unit to go to Iraq, to make a promise that you're going to follow through, and then to drop out right before you actually have to go. | ||
| I also think it's dishonest. | ||
| Something, again, if you guys ever get an opportunity to ask Tim Walz or Kamala Harris some questions, he made this interesting comment. | ||
| That the Kamala Harris campaign put out there, and I bet they're regretting they put it out there now, because he said that we, and he was making a point about gun control, he said we shouldn't allow weapons that I used in war to be on America's streets. | ||
| Well, I wondered, Tim Walts, when were you ever in war? | ||
| What was this weapon that you carried into war given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq and he has not spent a day in a combat zone? | ||
| What bothers me about Tim Waltz is the stolen valor garbage. | ||
| Do not pretend to be something that you're not. | ||
| And if he wants to criticize me for getting an Ivy League education, I'm proud of the fact that my mamaw supported me, that I was able to make something of myself. | ||
| I'd be ashamed if I was him and I lied about my military service like he did. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| If it comes down to it, if they actually throw down on set, like if it actually comes down to it, that's gonna shatter a glass jaw, man. | ||
| That is a blow right there. | ||
| You're not coming back from that haymaker. | ||
| That is probably the most passionate that I've seen JD Vance on the trail. | ||
| And I really hope we get that JD tonight. | ||
| I think we're going to. | ||
| I mean, look at this. | ||
| This is the energy. | ||
| This is the photo. | ||
| He did the meme. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| This is them walking back from Kamala Harris's little, like, plane that she's renting right now, Air Force Two. | ||
| Soon to be JD Vance's plane. | ||
| We're going to see this shot a lot as JD Vance gets an Air Force Two himself in just 35 days. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Somebody who is, of course, working. | ||
| Day and night to make that happen is the great Laura Trump, who joins the show live now. | ||
| We are excited, Laura. | ||
| Here we are back again. | ||
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We're back. | |
| We're back. | ||
| It's debate night. | ||
| You know J.D. Vance. | ||
| He's a very different style, obviously, than your father-in-law, but it's like... | ||
| It's scary in like a different shade. | ||
| I think that his reports of Walls being quite nervous has a lot of merit to them. | ||
| J.D. Vance has got to have 50 IQ points on this guy. | ||
| Oh, at least. | ||
| I mean, that's on the low end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, the word is from directly from CNN. | ||
| I think the folks that they have talked to in the Walls camp. | ||
| Are basically saying, yeah, he's just going to kind of like dodge questions. | ||
| He realizes he doesn't have to answer every question. | ||
| Benny, that's what we've seen from this entire ticket. | ||
| Kamala Harris has never once answered directly or succinctly or coherently in any manner. | ||
| Any question she's been asked, she tap dances around. | ||
| There's a lot of jazz hands, smoke and mirrors, opportunity economy, and lawns are looking good, and a middle class family, and all the nonsense. | ||
| And we've never gotten one solid answer. | ||
| And I would be nervous if I were Tim Walz, too. | ||
| Because they are trying to sell the American people the disaster that we've all just lived through over the past four years. | ||
| They're trying to sell the American people that they should turn the page. | ||
| You can't turn the page when you wrote the book. | ||
| The way you turn the page and the way you move forward is with different. | ||
| And you couldn't be more different than J.D. Vance and Donald Trump. | ||
| And so I would be pretty nervous if I was Tim Walz, too. | ||
| I'm certainly ready. | ||
| I've got the popcorn popped and I'm ready to go. | ||
| Oh man, the turn the page. | ||
| You just triggered me. | ||
| That Tim Walz's wife talking about turning the page. | ||
| Can we load that as a play? | ||
| That's the creepiest. | ||
| I've never seen crazy eyes like that. | ||
| And I went to a state school and I've never seen crazy eyes like that. | ||
| Tim Ball's this white man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| We'll load it up and play it beside. | ||
| We played it this morning. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| It actually, it makes Hillary Clinton look like Princess Diana. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| She's a tough man. | ||
| Okay, so you said, so you're handicapping J.D. Vance. | ||
| Now, this is kind of interesting because both of these guys are relatively unknown quantities, right? | ||
| The governor of Minnesota, not typically that big of a national position. | ||
| And J.D. Vance has only recently sort of... | ||
| been baptized into the political sphere. | ||
| And so I think America is going to see something quite new tonight. | ||
| Something quite interesting. | ||
| But the difference, Benny, I think is that you've actually seen J.D. Vance out there on the campaign trail quite a bit, taking questions from hostile reporters. | ||
| Look at all the interviews that he's done. | ||
| He has been well vetted, you know, to a certain extent by the hostile mainstream media. | ||
| And so people have gotten to know J.D. Vance to a certain extent. | ||
| Tim Walls is obviously taking a page out of the basement playbook of, of course, starting with Joe Biden, Kamala Harris now. | ||
| He really hasn't been out there quite as much. | ||
| So there is a lot of pressure on him tonight. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| I think what the American people are going to have an opportunity to do is get to know both of these men. | ||
| And get to hear about their positions. | ||
| If we get one again from Tim Walls, we'll see what we get from him tonight. | ||
| But certainly J.D. Vance has this great thing on his side, and it's called Four Years of Donald Trump Actually Being President. | ||
| A great record that they are running on on their side of the ticket. | ||
| And I just think that whenever you're going to have to answer for Kamala Harris and say... | ||
| Why is it that she says she's going to do things differently? | ||
| Why hasn't she done anything in the past three and a half years? | ||
| Why would we want to go back and do the same things that we're dealing with right now? | ||
| Take a look around. | ||
| Look at the Middle East. | ||
| Look at our economy. | ||
| Look at our southern border. | ||
| And you tell me whether things are moving in the right direction. | ||
| So I don't know how he answers all of those questions, but I do think that when we come out of tonight, the American people will probably have a clearer picture than ever if it isn't already crystal clear to them that you have to vote for Donald Trump and J.D. Vance in this election. | ||
| Breaux has done one interview. | ||
| He did this one CNN emotional fluffy support mascot animal interview with Kamala Harris. | ||
| And he was asked one combative question by Dana Bash. | ||
| And his answer was, me no understand English. | ||
| He didn't answer it, and he didn't. | ||
| And by the way, Benny, if he tries to pull that tonight and say, oh, this, you know, Yale-educated, Ivy League-educated, J.D. Vance is trying to over-talk me. | ||
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| We want people who can actually talk and can actually say things to the American people and our adversaries and our allies around the world. | ||
| So if that's the card he's going to pull, this, you know, kind of podunk, oh, I'm just from Minnesota kind of guy. | ||
| That's not going to play with the American people. | ||
| I think that's going to be a bit of a tough sell. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Just really quickly, have you, and I know that you're the co-chair of the RNC, so you know all the internal operations, you're behind the scenes for all this stuff. | ||
| Is there any defense that has been practiced by the debate team for Tim Walz's jazz hands? | ||
| And he actually may pull out literal jazz hands because that's how far gone things have become. | ||
| They have no answers for things. | ||
| And it really has been an effort of the smoke and mirrors and really jazz hands. | ||
| If he gets nervous, maybe he just does a dance. | ||
| I don't know what to expect. | ||
| I can tell you, if that happens, J.D. Vance will be prepared to deal directly with it. | ||
| And just you wait. | ||
| Can you give us a little insight? | ||
| This is always my favorite question. | ||
| A little insight into how the preparation has gone for J.D. Vance. | ||
| We played a clip previously in the program of a member of Congress. | ||
| Danny, remind me of his name. | ||
| Tom Emmer. | ||
| He's been, obviously, coaching J.D. Vance. | ||
| Can you give us any kind of background on how the debate prep's gone? | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, I think Tom Emmer is a perfect person. | ||
| He's from Minnesota. | ||
| He understands the people of the state, and he's talked with a lot of them, about Their problems with the governor, Tim Walz, and where all of his issues lie and maybe where he's vulnerable. | ||
| And so that's been, I think, a point of focus. | ||
| You have to make sure you call these people out. | ||
| And look, we can talk about Kamala Harris all day, but I think part of the strategy truly is to expose Tim Walz for how radical he is, for some of the crazy things that he's done and that he's said. | ||
| And I think that whenever people get to know him a little bit more... | ||
| It's going to be very obvious that this cannot be a guy who's a heartbeat away from becoming president of the United States as vice president. | ||
| It's a very scary prospect. | ||
| And so as much as we expect that the CBS moderators, it'll be another probably a three-on-one situation like we saw with the ABC News debate. | ||
| I think what JD has prepared to do is really to talk about the things that the moderators probably should be, but we expect they likely won't, which is exactly what... | ||
| We saw in that ABC News debate. | ||
| So he's ready to go. | ||
| He's ready to call Tim Walls out. | ||
| He's ready to call out Kamala Harris. | ||
| And he's ready to actually ask questions of Tim Walls if the moderators themselves don't do it. | ||
| So no live fact-checking. | ||
| Is this a request from the campaign? | ||
| Do you have to do this now, like, with every interview? | ||
| Like, are you going to just spend the entire time yelling and arguing? | ||
| And to your earlier point, J.D. Vance did that wonderfully on CNN with Dana Bash two weeks ago. | ||
| Saying, are you here to ask me a question or to yell at me the entire time? | ||
| This must be such an annoying position for you to be in. | ||
| Well, and it's so bad for the American people who are trying to actually learn something from these debates. | ||
| That was really the tragedy, I think, with that ABC News debate, which is that no one walked away from that really understanding any position from either candidate that they didn't already know going in to the debate. | ||
| And that's what those are supposed to be about. | ||
| It should showcase the people and their policy platforms and what it is they want to do for this. | ||
| I think that's a great thing. | ||
| I think that you'll probably hear, if Tim Walsh tries to pull a fast one, J.D. Vance himself fact-checking, and that's okay with us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's something that I don't want to talk about in the past, but we can't get over on this program. | ||
| We've done 90 straight minutes on this one short clip of David Muir fact-checking if Donald Trump was being sarcastic or not. | ||
| Like, what the F is wrong with you, bro? | ||
| Like, in what universe? | ||
| Like, who anointed you? | ||
| Like, king of all the universe! | ||
| You can see someone's sarcasm! | ||
| What the hell is wrong with these people? | ||
| That really happened in this country. | ||
| A dude said, I didn't think you were being sarcastic enough. | ||
| Like, with a comment to your father-in-law. | ||
| But the credibility of all of these mainstream media, legacy media outlets is at an all-time low. | ||
| And that's really sad, Benny, for our country. | ||
| Once upon a time, you could trust these people, and they were going to deliver the facts, and they were going to present things in a fair way. | ||
| And obviously, you look at how much time and what percentage of their coverage is positive for the Democrats and negative for the Republicans, and it tells you all you need to know. | ||
| So obviously no surprise that David Muir is trying to garner how sarcastic or wasn't sarcastic enough. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's totally ridiculous. | ||
| And again, it's just so sad for the country. | ||
| It doesn't have to be this way. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We can tune into The Benny Show and it doesn't have to be that way. | ||
| I would love to actually ask a real question. | ||
| This is something that broke today, and we haven't really gotten a chance to cover it during this live, and so maybe we can cover it right here together. | ||
| Tim Walls lying about where he was during Tiananmen Square, what a strange thing to lie about. | ||
| Hear from CNN who's been doing quite a bit of fact-checking, actually, on Kamala Harris and on Tim Walls, strangely enough. | ||
| Walls claims he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square protest, but newspaper reports say he was teaching in Nebraska. | ||
| Why would you lie about something like that? | ||
| Except for the fact that you're slowly morphing into Mao Zedong, which is actually what Tim Walz looked like. | ||
| But what is his obsession with the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| Why is he visiting China so much? | ||
| Who would go to China as much as Tim Walz has? | ||
| Why would you lie about that in particular? | ||
| Maybe we'll get a question about that this evening. | ||
| I wouldn't hold my breath on it. | ||
| But all of these things kind of come up and you say, you know, who is this person? | ||
| And what is the Chinese obsession? | ||
| I think that he and his wife honeymooned in China. | ||
| And all of the strange, you know, kind of connections there. | ||
| It certainly doesn't sit well with the American people. | ||
| And at a time like right now when America is at a weakened state, when it's very clear to anyone who's been paying attention that the Chinese are... | ||
| We're desperate to take over as the superpower of the world. | ||
| They have been playing chess and we've been playing checkers over here in America. | ||
| Don't think for a second that there are any coincidences. | ||
| Don't think for a second that it, oh, oops, we floated the balloon over all the military bases. | ||
| Oh, our bad. | ||
| All of these things are strategic. | ||
| And the idea that you could have a guy like Tim Walls who has some weird and sick obsession with China and the Chinese people and is lying about being there even at times he wasn't. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that it's a little uncomfortable for the average American. | ||
| So Jim Jordan will be joining the program in just a moment, but I would love to just ask you really quickly, since you've made these points about China, and now there's a congressional investigation. | ||
| Apparently the DHS has really creeped out at how much Tim Walz loves China, and there's some nefarious information that's being subpoenaed by Congress. | ||
| This has got to be a question tonight, right? | ||
| This must be a question about Tim Walz's very odd connection to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if he were a Republican, I'm sure it would be. | ||
| But it does seem like all the legacy media tries to do is cover and run cover for the Democrats. | ||
| But yeah, it's a real question. | ||
| And it's a real concern for the American people. | ||
| I mean, we seem to have been infiltrated in so many ways. | ||
| You have China buying up so much land in this country conveniently located around strategic military bases and the like. | ||
| It's a really scary prospect that... | ||
| Not only are we on the brink of World War III, look at the Middle East, look at what's going on over there, but China has seen what a weakened state the United States is in right now. | ||
| And I'll tell you, you think about China linking up with Iran, with maybe Russia. | ||
| That is an access of evil that this world cannot afford to see happen. | ||
| We know Iran has been trying to infiltrate this election and try to influence this election. | ||
| They very clearly want to see Kamala Harris and Tim Walz for some reason in the White House. | ||
| And so all of it is very scary. | ||
| We're 35 days away from this election. | ||
| And, Benny, we talk all the time about the fact that this is the most consequential and critical election of any of our lifetimes. | ||
| You hear things like this, and it really does make you take a breath and say, oh, my God, what if there's validity to anything nefarious here? | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| And I'm glad at least people are taking it seriously enough to investigate it. | ||
| Just really quick, since you dropped the Iran name bomb, for lack of a better adjective. | ||
| Why does it take our intelligence agencies so long to brief your father-in-law about the assassination squads that are out to kill him? | ||
| Isn't it a great question? | ||
| I wish I had a good answer to that. | ||
| But all of it is very upsetting and unsettling. | ||
| You could read into that a lot of different ways, Benny. | ||
| What I'll say is that I'm glad that God has been on Donald Trump's side. | ||
| Twice now. | ||
| And I will say that I believe that that's probably the only reason that he's still alive. | ||
| And I don't know any two ways about it because the really scary nature of all of this and how close our country has come twice now to complete disaster. | ||
| And I think about what that would mean for our country and the world, let alone, obviously, my family. | ||
| Very, very frightening. | ||
| And I wish I could answer that question for you, but I cannot. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Well, maybe you can answer this question. | ||
| I have a feeling you can. | ||
| The polls are back up! | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| Real clear politics saying, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, not so fast. | ||
| A lot of great polls this week. | ||
| What do we expect to see in the next 30 days? | ||
| Laura, you are at the helm of the RNC! | ||
| Yeah, there's some real 2016 energy going on out there right now, Benny. | ||
| I'll tell you that. | ||
| The feeling I have when I travel the country and when I talk to people, and the most unlikely of people, people who I assume are coming up to me to say something really nasty to me, and they're like, Trump 2024. | ||
| It's shocking to me. | ||
| But it really is reminiscent of 2016. | ||
| And we know how Donald Trump performs in the polls. | ||
| We know that he always is so far ahead of what the polls reflect in this country. | ||
| And so I'm just telling you. | ||
| I am feeling like it is going to be such a punch in the face and a punch in the gut to the Democrats on November 5th when they see how red that map is. | ||
| But it only becomes that red if everybody gets out and votes. | ||
| And I want everybody to go vote early, get your vote banked, and then take people every single day to vote. | ||
| Up until election day, that is how we're going to swamp the vote. | ||
| That is how we're going to make it too big to rig. | ||
| That is how we're going to bed early on election night, knowing Donald Trump will be the 47th president of the United States. | ||
| Get ready for these polls to look even better. | ||
| I'm telling you, after tonight, I think we're going to be in great shape, but you can't take anything for granted. | ||
| We're going to play like we're behind all the way to the last second of the game, obviously. | ||
| Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina. | ||
| President Trump was handing out, obviously, helping people with aid. | ||
| Final question about that. | ||
| I know you're from North Carolina. | ||
| Many thought that you might run for office in North Carolina. | ||
| Who knows what the future will hold? | ||
| But I know you know the Asheville area well and some of the most beautiful and warmest and kindest-hearted people there. | ||
| Just maybe a word from the campaign as to what's happening in that part of the country right now and the people who are suffering. | ||
| I mean, I'm heartbroken to see what's going on in North Carolina. | ||
| It's so tragic, and it's so much worse, I think, than anyone ever anticipated. | ||
| I'm glad to hear that Joe Biden will finally be making a trip there. | ||
| I hope that there's some relief brought to people. | ||
| I hope that the rescue efforts continue to be successful, but sadly, we've continued to see that death toll rise. | ||
| And so, you know, I know that Donald Trump wants to visit as well. | ||
| I will be in Georgia tomorrow with a group of women. | ||
| We're going to be taking 50... | ||
| 150,000 pounds of food donated by Goya to a food bank there. | ||
| So we're trying to help out wherever we can and however we can. | ||
| And I would encourage everybody out there to do the same. | ||
| Our fellow Americans need us. | ||
| And this is certainly a time of need. | ||
| If things get really, really bad, just change the state flag of the Ukrainian flag. | ||
| Maybe people in Washington will pay attention. | ||
| Maybe they'll pay attention. | ||
| Yeah, maybe they'll... | ||
| Hundreds of billions of dollars, that's right. | ||
| Same for Lahaina in Maui, right? | ||
| Same for any horribly devastated American community. | ||
| Laura Trump, we have the Swamp the Vote website that Laura just name-dropped here. | ||
| Here's how you can help. | ||
| This is SwampTheVoteUSA.com. | ||
| This is how you make sure that you are banking your vote. | ||
| Laura, any other way that people can help out in the last few days that we got here? | ||
| Oh, well, we have 200,000 people who are being trained and have been trained as poll watchers, poll workers, and legal experts, but we always want more because we need this to be a free, fair, and transparent election. | ||
| We have to restore integrity in our electoral process. | ||
| We know we can't rely on the other side of the aisle to do that, so protectthevote.com is the website. | ||
| You can volunteer. | ||
| We will train you. | ||
| We'll tell you what to look out for in your area or anywhere in this country, protectthevote.com. | ||
| We always want more people on. | ||
| Because this is the year we start turning it back around. | ||
| And then let's get Donald Trump in that White House. | ||
| And let's get one day of voting. | ||
| Let's get voter ID across the country. | ||
| Let's do paper ballots from now on. | ||
| But we've got to get through this one, Benny, so everybody can play a role. | ||
| Everybody can come out and be a part of the team. | ||
| Protectthevote.com. | ||
| Please come join us. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| All right, baby. | ||
| Hey, thank you so very much, Laura. | ||
| Of course, everyone go follow Laura on Act. | ||
| You probably already are. | ||
| But if not, head on over there. | ||
| The beautiful... | ||
| Trump boat parade in the background here and ready to... | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
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| There you go. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Oh, that's a... | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That's a boat parade coming up in South Florida, October 13th. | ||
| Just throwing it out there. | ||
| Anybody in the area, get your flags out. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| We're ready to go. | ||
| We'll be there. | ||
| Thank you, Laura. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Happy debate night. | ||
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Happy debate night. | |
| Joining the program now, a man who needs absolutely no introduction, but the native son of the great state of Ohio, a man who has made that state so very, very proud and is the king of oversight in the federal government who can speak to us about some of these strange China ties with Tim Walz. | ||
| The great chairman, Jim Jordan, joins the program now. | ||
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The great chairman, Jim Jordan, joins the program now. | |
| Mr. Chairman, thank you so much for being with us. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Just real quickly, you know, Ohio is going to stand strong tonight. | ||
| Ohio, I think, is going to be a state that's made very, very proud tonight by J.D. Vance. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree. | ||
| I mean, J.D.'s just an amazing story. | ||
| I say it's the American story. | ||
| Tim Walls says it's weird. | ||
| I call it the American story. | ||
| Humblest of beginnings. | ||
| Actually, a family was on public assistance. | ||
| United States Marine, Ohio State grad, Yale Law School, successful business guy, best-selling author, sold so many books, they made a movie about it. | ||
| United States Senator from the seventh largest state in our country, done a great job there, and now Vice Presidential Candidate, and he's only 40. That is not weird. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| That is the American story. | ||
| And you've seen, J.D., in interview after interview, going up against whoever. | ||
| Mainstream media, left-wing press, it doesn't matter. | ||
| He's willing to engage, take the questions, and he prevails and he wins every single time. | ||
| I think he'll do the same thing tonight, and I think he'll probably highlight Tim Walz's record. | ||
| You know, that summer of 2020, what he allowed to have in his state, in Minneapolis, what he did during COVID. | ||
| Set up the snitch lines. | ||
| You could snitch on your rat on your neighbor, for goodness sake, if they were walking their dog without a mask or something stupid like that. | ||
| So I think he'll point those things out, and I think he'll do a great job. | ||
| And it's great to see these poll numbers, where they're at today, how good President Trump is doing in these key swing states. | ||
| Yes, and I think it's only going to be getting better. | ||
| Ohio plus 10 in a recent internal Ohio poll. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Trump's not winning Ohio by 10 and Iowa by 18 and losing Wisconsin and Michigan. | ||
| This is not how the Midwest works. | ||
| I don't think so either. | ||
| And the other thing is, if he wins Ohio by 10, I think Bernie Marino is our next United States senator. | ||
| I think he beats Sherrod Brown. | ||
| So that's why that... | ||
| That if it's, you know, he won Ohio by eight and a half and 16, by eight and a half and 20. If he wins it by 10, I think Bernie's, because Bernie's a good candidate. | ||
| He's doing a good job running a good campaign. | ||
| So, and that same dynamic will help us in the Senate race in Wisconsin, the Senate race in Michigan, the Senate race in Pennsylvania. | ||
| So President Trump running strong like he is. | ||
| And like Laura was saying, I was in Georgia two weeks ago. | ||
| We're going to be in Wisconsin next week. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| You can feel it, Benny. | ||
| You're talking to people. | ||
| You're out and about. | ||
| You're at different rallies and things. | ||
| You can feel the energy out there for President Trump. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So your colleague, Tom Emmer, who's in leadership, obviously, in the Republican caucus in the House, you know him well. | ||
| He's been coaching J.D. Vance. | ||
| Perhaps you could give us some insight into how this debate prep's gone, what we can expect tonight. | ||
| You say that he'll hit Tim Walz on the COVID lockdowns, on the insanity of the Antifa and BLM riots. | ||
| Anything, any more insight you can give us into? | ||
| Well, I think, no, I can't, other than just, I think we're at the point in a campaign where it's, you know, we have something we very seldom get. | ||
| You have back-to-back administrations now running for the top job. | ||
| So you had four years of President Trump, they had four years of Biden-Harris, which was better? | ||
| Do the comparison. | ||
| Do the contrasting. | ||
| And when you look at it, I always say we went from a secure border to no border. | ||
| We went from safe streets to record crime, $2 gas to $4 gas, stable prices to record inflation. | ||
| And then there's foreign policy. | ||
| We went from a commander-in-chief and President Trump who projected strength, where Russia didn't go into Ukraine, where Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and the Houthis from Yemen didn't attack our best friend in the state of Israel. | ||
| Didn't happen when Trump was in the White House. | ||
| But obviously all that stuff has happened today in a real way with Iran themselves launching ballistic missiles. | ||
| So I think we're at that point in the campaign where it's like, let's get to the facts. | ||
| Let's get to the issues. | ||
| Let's do the direct comparison. | ||
| I think J.D. has been doing a good job of pointing that out. | ||
| I assume he's going to do the same thing tonight. | ||
| So something that your committees have been pointing out and the government oversight committees has pointed out, it was a bombshell yesterday. | ||
| There are very strange ties to Tim Walz and the Communist Chinese Party. | ||
| Could you expound on the subpoenas that have been sent to DHS? | ||
| Well, there's supposedly a whistleblower who's come to the Oversight Committee and talked to Chairman Comer. | ||
| We have all the, what, dozens of trips that Tim Walz went to, you know, Communist China, a number of times he's been there. | ||
| And then just some of the overall, I think, is policies and everything else. | ||
| But I think this whistleblower is important, supposedly there in Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| And I think Chairman Comer wants information regarding all of that. | ||
| So I think we're in the inquiring phase where we're asking for the information and may subpoena the information. | ||
| That'll be a call from the chairman. | ||
| But I think all of it, just when you look at all of Tim Walls' record... | ||
| I think it's just, you know, that's what we're trying to get to so that the country fully knows what's going on here and what this individual's been involved with. | ||
| It's a little weird to honeymoon in China. | ||
| Bernie Sanders, I guess, honeymooned in the Soviet Union. | ||
| It's also a little strange. | ||
| It's a little odd to get married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square so you have a date that you'll remember. | ||
| And then to lie. | ||
| This is from CNN just an hour ago. | ||
| Tim Wall's lying about where he was during Tiananmen Square. | ||
| It turned out he was teaching in Nebraska, but he says that he is, he said he was in Hong Kong. | ||
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Yeah, I think the irony is you used the term weird. | |
| And of course, Tim Walls is the guy who started that term on J.D. Vance, which makes no sense to me. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, there's some strange things here. | ||
| There's the, you know, people have pointed out. | ||
| I didn't serve in our armed services, but Tim Walls did. | ||
| But people who have also served said he said some things there that don't quite add up. | ||
| So we'll have to see. | ||
| I assume J.D., who has served, will bring that out tonight maybe as well. | ||
| He's done that some when he's been out on the campaign trail. | ||
| I want to touch very briefly because you're also someone who has very close ties with Donald Trump. | ||
| It's got to suck to be right about something. | ||
| You're often right, Mr. Chairman, but you came on this program. | ||
| We actually pulled the clip. | ||
| You came on this program right after the first assassination, and you said, if we don't do something, there's going to be another assassination attempt on President Trump, and they're going to keep trying. | ||
| And I'll be damned, sir, if you were right. | ||
| You were chillingly right. | ||
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| What really concerns me is the... | ||
| Is Iran. | ||
| I mean, Iran sending ballistic missiles to Israel. | ||
| Iran has said they want to assassinate President Trump. | ||
| Iran has said they want to assassinate Prime Minister Netanyahu. | ||
| Iran has hacked President Trump's campaign. | ||
| That information wound up in the Harris campaign. | ||
| Somehow winds up in the press. | ||
| And we don't know squat about that. | ||
| The mainstream press doesn't want to talk about that. | ||
| I mean, you put all that together. | ||
| And then the second assassination attempt on President Trump. | ||
| And I don't think I've seen no connection with this guy, this crazy guy in Iran. | ||
| But all of this is like, that's a lot of strange things there and scary things when you think about the largest state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, is involved in all these things. | ||
| So we try to get the FBI to brief us. | ||
| We're going to press to make sure we get information to answer questions. | ||
| When did we first learn that the Iranians hacked the Trump campaign? | ||
| How did we find out? | ||
| How did the information get to the... | ||
| Harris campaign. | ||
| When did the Harris campaign know about it? | ||
| When did they tell the FBI? | ||
| When did the FBI, if ever, give the Trump campaign a defensive briefing? | ||
| I mean, all those questions need to be answered. | ||
| And I think, frankly, they need to be answered now, particularly with the history of the FBI, who spied on President Trump's campaign, who were involved in the Mueller investigation, who raided his home. | ||
| I mean, all of that, that to me is the concern. | ||
| And so that's where we're trying to push the Judiciary Committee is we want answers to. | ||
| How Iran did this and who got the information and when they got it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's some very strange connections to the most recent guy. | ||
| He's alive. | ||
| He's in a jail cell right now in Florida. | ||
| Ryan Routh. | ||
| And it's very odd connections. | ||
| He was recruiting fighters from Iran to go fight in Ukraine. | ||
| And this is all over his website and all over his social media. | ||
| It's very odd connections going on right now. | ||
| I really hope that we get the truth because the American people deserve to know it. | ||
| And these guys are trying to kill our president. | ||
| And the FBI should tell us what they know now. | ||
| I mean, I understand it's an ongoing investigation, but this is a little unique, for goodness sake. | ||
| This is the former president of the United States, who, as you pointed out, has already been shot by one person, for goodness sake, has the second assassination attempt. | ||
| With this Iranian angle and all that Iran's up to, I think we need answers to these questions. | ||
| So we're going to continue to push and try to get those answers. | ||
| Well, we look, I mean, I really hope that you are able to pry. | ||
| It's a pretty detailed Comer's letter. | ||
| We've read it live twice now. | ||
| It's very detailed. | ||
| It seems like this Wilson Blower really knows where the goods are at DHS about the walls and about what's going on. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, obviously, obviously, Godspeed. | ||
| So pivoting off there, President Trump going back to Butler, Pennsylvania, will be there this weekend. | ||
| I'm not sure if you'll be at that event, but that is like an act of bravery. | ||
| It's an act of defiance, almost. | ||
| And I think that's the energy that really carries. | ||
| Where do you see the next 35 days? | ||
| I feel good. | ||
| As I'm out and about, like I said, I was in Georgia. | ||
| We're going to be in Wisconsin next week. | ||
| I was in Tennessee. | ||
| Actually, relatively close. | ||
| Where we were at was fine, but relatively close to all the tragic situation in North Carolina, parts of Georgia, and part of our country. | ||
| But everywhere we go, as we talked about it, you can feel the energy. | ||
| I think the campaign's in a good spot. | ||
| People understand President Trump. | ||
| There's one thing that happens. | ||
| You've been to many of these rallies like I have, Biddy. | ||
| Every single rally, you sense and you feel the connection that President Trump has with his supporters, with the voters, with we the people. | ||
| And he says a line in almost every single rally, every single speech he gives, he says, they're coming after me because I'm fighting for you. | ||
| I remember we were out in Iowa when it was like 21 below zero. | ||
| Back during the caucuses, he changed it a little bit. | ||
| He said, they're coming after my freedom because I'm fighting for yours. | ||
| And people understand that. | ||
| And they see his determination when they're in Butler, Pennsylvania, when it happened and his fist in the air. | ||
| I actually talked to him the night of the second assassination attempt. | ||
| Called him later that night, several hours after this ordeal had happened. | ||
| He was just calm and determined as ever. | ||
| I mean, he's an amazing individual. | ||
| Truly, just a truly fascinating, amazing person. | ||
| And I think the country picks up on that. | ||
| And they see in this troubled time with what's happening in foreign policy, with what's happening with our border, with what's happening here at home and the disaster and everything. | ||
| They want a strong leader. | ||
| And I think they see that, obviously, in President Trump. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we'll have that message carry us into Election Day in... | ||
| Just 35 days. | ||
| Wild, man. | ||
| Final question here, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Handicap for tonight. | ||
| I think that J.D. Vance has 50 IQ points on this guy. | ||
| J.D.'s one smart guy. | ||
| You've been around him. | ||
| I've had the privilege of having him as my... | ||
| He represents me in the United States Senate. | ||
| I think he's done a great job. | ||
| As I said, it's the American story. | ||
| It's an amazing story. | ||
| And he is just a sharp guy who I think is going to do very well tonight. | ||
| I just do. | ||
| I just think he handles it. | ||
| Every one of these interviews he does with someone in the left-wing press, he always wins. | ||
| He always wins. | ||
| And he's just calm, deliberate, sharp, articulate. | ||
| You can pick the adjectives, but he's all of those. | ||
| And he handles himself the way you want someone to handle themselves in those situations. | ||
| And it's why I think he'll make a great vice president. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we just... | ||
| We just have one prayer for JD Vance tonight, is that stay clear of the jazz hands of Tim Walls, all right? | ||
| They come out of nowhere. | ||
| You never know where they're going to come, you know? | ||
| They're flailing all over the place. | ||
| Watch out, duck! | ||
| You know, I don't know what his reflexes are like. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't think he was a national championship wrestler, so. | ||
| Well, but he's a sharp guy to ask for sure. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Deeply, deeply appreciate your time tonight. | ||
| And Godspeed on these investigations. | ||
| Please, save the president's life, if you would. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Take care, Benny. | ||
| Thanks for all you're doing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| you you All right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We are rocking and we are rolling. | ||
| We've got some very, very interesting times ahead. | ||
| We wait for the debate here. | ||
| It's going to be in just a few minutes. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here's the, our, our, our, Our exquisite production team is live on the ground at Trump Tower. | ||
| Just letting you know. | ||
| I'm probably not supposed to say this, but ALX is live at Trump Tower. | ||
| We got an invitation. | ||
| And ALX, he doesn't live too far from New York. | ||
| He's like, I'm gonna go. | ||
| Let's hop. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's roll. | ||
| So will ALX be, like, will he be able to, like, go chill with J.D. Vance tonight? | ||
| We're not sure. | ||
| Here's a photo of J.D. Vance in his motorcade on the way to the debate with my man, says Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You can see him ripping through the, you see him ripping through the streets of New York. | ||
| The great ALX is in, I don't know. | ||
| Danny, you want to see if ALX can give us a tour of the war room, if that's even allowed. | ||
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We'll see. | |
| We'll see. | ||
| But the great ALX is in Trump Tower. | ||
| He'll be bringing us sights and sounds from Trump Tower. | ||
| We have here from Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| The debate is going to be at the CBS News headquarters. | ||
| That's going to be in Manhattan, in New York. | ||
| And so we'll see what happens tonight. | ||
| Man, the polls are, though. | ||
| The polls are looking good, man. | ||
| Gotta tell you, we didn't get a chance to talk all the way through all the numbers. | ||
| We got the debate in less than 20 minutes from now. | ||
| These debates, by the way, are very on time. | ||
| Winning in North Carolina. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| Donald Trump up two in North Carolina. | ||
| Showing Trump up two. | ||
| All these consistent Carolina polls. | ||
| Man, if you are trying to swing North Carolina, you're doing a bad job. | ||
| And the way they've treated that state, Pennsylvania, woof! | ||
| Donald Trump up three in Pennsylvania, Trafalgar Group, the most accurate pollsters in the country, actually. | ||
| This side of Rasmussen, who's our dear favorite, our friends at Rasmussen, also excellent. | ||
| New Donald Trump up in Pennsylvania. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Donald Trump posting this spicy meatball. | ||
| You may have noticed that World War III kicked off today. | ||
| Israel had a horrible barrage of ballistic missiles fired at it. | ||
| We pray for people's safety. | ||
| We don't want war. | ||
| We want peace. | ||
| We don't want anyone to die. | ||
| We don't want anyone's future to be cut short. | ||
| We don't want the elimination of nations or people on Earth. | ||
| We actually want peace. | ||
| We want people to chill out. | ||
| We hate all these conflicts. | ||
| The world's gone to hell in a handbasket. | ||
| President Trump, this is the ad that is pinned to the top of President Trump's page right now. | ||
| We thought since we talked about how Donald Trump is exclusively using X, we might as well feature this ad. | ||
| And we have this ad to play for you. | ||
| One of my all-time favorites. | ||
| I mean, this is just really well done. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| 10 million views and flying. | ||
| The video at the top of President Trump's page right now. | ||
| Expect, with the given news that Israel was under massive attack today, this to be pushed pretty hard in the debate. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| Hamas saw Harris' anti-Israel statements and will use it as a green light to keep murdering Israelis. | ||
| And Iran thinks Harris is so incompetent. | ||
| New intel shows they're trying to help Harris win the election. | ||
| America doesn't need another TikTok performer. | ||
| We need the strength that will protect us. | ||
| I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve this message. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| I haven't actually watched this with... | ||
| I haven't watched this with... | ||
| I just saw... | ||
| I've seen it in passing. | ||
| This is a brand new one from today. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| America doesn't need another TikTok performer. | ||
| Yo, that's a heater. | ||
| The entire studio is cracking up. | ||
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America doesn't need another TikTok performer. | |
| Come on! | ||
| We need the strength that will protect us. | ||
| I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message. | ||
| All right. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, we got photos. | ||
| We got photos from ALX inside the war room. | ||
| Guys, make sure that we can post these and everything like that. | ||
| I just want to make sure this is all clear. | ||
| The great Danny D 'Urbina is on. | ||
| We got you backstage access to the Trump war room. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's ALX. | ||
| This is inside of Trump town. | ||
| Look at you, boy. | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| There he is! | ||
| There he is! | ||
| Gavin Wax. | ||
| You got Jack Posobiec there at ALX with a full-sugar Coca-Cola, of course. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Very demure. | ||
| Very demure. | ||
| Demure. | ||
| Demure. | ||
| Very understated. | ||
| Very mindful, ALX. | ||
| There he is backstage. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| What have we got? | ||
| Okay, the production team is now lighting up. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll see what's up. | ||
| We got backstage AL. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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War Room! | |
| War Room! | ||
| They're at Trump Tower right now. | ||
| We got them everywhere, baby! | ||
| We got them everywhere! | ||
| We got video from people in the street. | ||
| Somebody sent us this today. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| This is Tim Walz's bus showing up in New York. | ||
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Tim Walz's bus showing up in New York. | |
| Look at all the people! | ||
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This is Matt Hatton! | |
| This is Matt Hatton! | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| Tim Walls getting mogged in the streets of New York! | ||
| New York! | ||
| Man! | ||
| This is great! | ||
| So fantastic! | ||
| And we got him, baby! | ||
| We got him! | ||
| We got ALX from inside of Trump Tower. | ||
| What other programs bringing you live shots from inside Trump Tower before the debate? | ||
| Let's just give it a shot here. | ||
| I know that the connection may be shaky. | ||
| Here we go, ALX. | ||
| Let me get in here. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We got the war room in here. | ||
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One sec. | |
| ALX Live. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| This is great, dude. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| What up, crew? | ||
| What up, team? | ||
| I have my earphone. | ||
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Yeah, this looks great, man. | |
| So, ALX, can you hear me? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Give me a breakdown, please, of where you're at right now and what's going on. | ||
| Yep, so we're in Trump Tower in New York, and we have a war room with a bunch of creators like Jack. | ||
| Ashley St. Clair. | ||
| And yeah, we're all sitting down to get ready for the debate. | ||
| We have a big screen there and we're all going to be putting out our live reactions to debate. | ||
| The Trump War Room and Alex Brusiewicz and everyone at the Trump Organization hooked us up with a nice space in here for the entire group here. | ||
| So yeah, we're going to be live reacting. | ||
| You can follow us on. | ||
| Obviously follow Benny's feed on X as well. | ||
| But yeah, we're here. | ||
| We're locked in. | ||
| I've got the Black MAGA hat on. | ||
| Dark MAGA all the way. | ||
| I got the Dark MAGA energy. | ||
| So you're at Trump Tower. | ||
| What's the energy? | ||
| What's the energy and what's the vibe at Trump Tower? | ||
| And ALX, I'd like to ask, can you move a little bit closer? | ||
| I think the router might be back near the room. | ||
| Could you move a little bit closer? | ||
| The feed was better back there. | ||
| You wouldn't mind taking just a few steps that direction. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Yep, it's just a little loud back there. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Everyone knows. | ||
| We're letting her rip ALX from his phone. | ||
| Anyway, it's awesome. | ||
| So inside Trump Tower, what's the vibe there? | ||
| Are there supporters outside? | ||
| Are there people cheering? | ||
| So there was apparently a bus earlier outside trying to protest, and that was about it. | ||
| But we did see some supporters, MAGA hats outside. | ||
| I stayed at this hotel last weekend, actually, and my room was right above the Trump. | ||
| Lettering. | ||
| And I just noticed so many people on the streets taking pictures of the Trump, like taking selfies with the sign in New York. | ||
| And I was seeing it when I was waiting out there today. | ||
| So many people just stopping just to take pictures with Trump's name on a building. | ||
| It's just insane to see in New York. | ||
| But yeah, the energy here is really high. | ||
| People are hyped for this. | ||
| Everyone pretty much knows that JD's going to wipe the floor with old tampons. | ||
| What is the chances that JD Vance goes and visits the war room tonight? | ||
| I mean, it's not zero. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not zero. | ||
| I do know that people were here earlier that were affiliated with JD and they were checking things out in here. | ||
| So, I mean, he could come afterwards. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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But yeah, I'll be sure to get footage if that happens. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, we know that we'll pop right back into this live. | ||
| If J.D. Vance goes in, we don't have J.D. Vance booked for tonight. | ||
| Tough night to book J.D. Vance. | ||
| But if he comes into the war room, you know we'll have reporters there. | ||
| Okay, so do you see, we just talked with Jim Jordan about extra security for Trump. | ||
| Do you see extra security in Trump Tower? | ||
| There were a couple of people outside, but I think they're mainly following JD. | ||
| I did see that he's on his way to the debate, but it's not as locked down as I've seen in years past. | ||
| I think it's because it's a little more low-key of an event because only the people who were invited here probably knew where it was. | ||
| But yeah, things are pretty secure in this property anyway because there's police officers outside, usually parked outside of this property anyway. | ||
| And you can't get up here without a keycard and everything. | ||
| So it's pretty secure here anyway. | ||
| But yeah, I'm sure JD's got all the protection he needs. | ||
| And we'll see the Secret Service protection if he doesn't stop by here after. | ||
| So awesome. | ||
| I'm so happy that you're there, Alex. | ||
| Final question for you. | ||
| Anything that you've heard or anything that you've seen behind the scenes with the Trump team about what to expect tonight? | ||
| I'm expecting what we've been seeing on CNN and MSNBC with Vance taking the flamethrower to Waltz and then also... | ||
| I've been hearing a whole lot about just, you know, what happened today in Israel. | ||
| He's just going to make that point that you are not safe under Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. | ||
| This is reality. | ||
| And if you want peace, you have to vote for Trump and dance. | ||
| And if you want more of what we're seeing, you know, World War III could pop up at any moment, every single day of the Kamala Harris administration. | ||
| If you want war in World War III, that's your candidate right there. | ||
| I think he's really going to hit really hard on that. | ||
| Also, the illegal immigration numbers that just came out under the Biden-Harris regime. | ||
| So awesome. | ||
| We're so excited for your coverage from inside the war room. | ||
| That's the only time I've seen a media war room with a beautiful chandelier in it. | ||
| They're treating you nice. | ||
| This is pretty amazing that you're seeing Trump supporters all over New York City. | ||
| It's so awesome. | ||
| We just played the Tim Walz bus clip. | ||
| It's pretty neat, man. | ||
| This is what it looks like when Tim Walz rolls into New York City. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| There it is. | ||
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In New York. | |
| In New York. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, a little birdie told me that ALX went to X today and saw some little birdies. | ||
| Maybe we'll hear more about that tomorrow. | ||
| Go follow ALX on X. 800,000 people. | ||
| Don't be wrong. | ||
| Look at that, baby. | ||
| 800,000 tonight, ALX. | ||
| Tonight. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Inevitable. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| Come on, an ALX with an AI of what it's going to look like when Donald Trump gets sworn in as president. | ||
| Only on day one. | ||
| Only on day one. | ||
| Thank you for the update, ALX. | ||
| Awesome, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| We need the stinger, Eric. | ||
| You need the stinger, Eric. | ||
| It's tradition. | ||
| When the guest comes on and off, you got to do the singer. | ||
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Yeah, all right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Well, that's fine. | ||
| We could just do a live stream. | ||
| The entire thing could just be a live feed of ALX, but we're not going to allow that because we're 10 minutes away. | ||
| We're 10 minutes away from the debate. | ||
| Ooh, baby. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Eric's incredible. | ||
| Eric's incredible. | ||
| We have some sick days going on here. | ||
| You sense a little bit of that? | ||
| Fall starts. | ||
| Wuhan. | ||
| Virology opens up all their newest pumpkin spice latte. | ||
| Pumpkin spice latte COVID. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You ever sense that around the fall? | ||
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Okay. | |
| We got people that are off for a little bit of Wong. | ||
| Klein Wong is out with the Wuhan. | ||
| Cough, cough. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You guys are going to get me in trouble! | ||
| You're going to get me in trouble. | ||
| Man, we have an incredible, incredible night ahead of us. | ||
| We're very excited about it. | ||
| And we are locked and loaded and ready to go. | ||
| Someone who has been locked and loaded his entire life, I didn't know him as a child, but we have a feeling that Mike Waltz, representative from Florida, House Foreign Affairs and House Armed Services and Intelligence Committee, somebody who's served in war, somebody who's carried weapons of war. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Maybe we'll hear about that tonight. | ||
| We have a feeling that he knows a little something about what it means to actually be in combat and be in war zone. | ||
| And the great congressman, Mike Waltz, joins us now. | ||
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| Congressman, we apologize because when you were live on set with us in Chicago, we called you, we said your name wrong. | ||
| And especially tonight, we are not going to allow that to happen. | ||
| We won't allow it. | ||
| We refuse. | ||
| False with a T for Trump. | ||
| Just T for Trump. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| We will emphasize it. | ||
| We will emphasize it. | ||
| What do you believe that J.D. Vance will be emphasizing in the debate tonight, sir? | ||
| I think he's going to do everything he can to emphasize Kamala Harris. | ||
| I don't think anybody gives a damn about walls without a T. I really don't. | ||
| This is what Trump did on the economy. | ||
| This is what Trump did on the border. | ||
| This is what Trump did in terms of ISIS defeated, Baghdadi dead, Iran broke, Soleimani dead, and gee, four years ago... | ||
| We were literally signing peace accords on the White House lawn and staying out of wars. | ||
| He's going to point out that Putin invaded Biden-Harris, not under him. | ||
| So I think he's going to draw the contrast. | ||
| Do you want inflation and war, or do you want peace and prosperity? | ||
| And so they're going to try to make it about cats in Ohio and walls because he has a horrible record himself. | ||
| And Kamala is running away from Biden's record, but towards nothing. | ||
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He has nothing else to talk about. | |
| I think J.D.'s just going to pivot right to Harris. | ||
| We apologize, Congressman. | ||
| Your connection is buffering here, so we want to make sure that we hear you loud and clear. | ||
| But let's give this one more shot, and then maybe we'll... | ||
| Perhaps we'll try to reconnect. | ||
| Also, we only have a few minutes before the debate. | ||
| But this China news has broken, and it's broken across the internet. | ||
| There seems to be multiple lies, very strange situations. | ||
| DHS knowing that the connections to China are very suspicious and maybe nefarious. | ||
| Do you have any intel on what the connections is? | ||
| It's a very strange thing to go honeymoon in China and go there 30 times. | ||
| Yeah, and there were also paid trips, and he lied about being there during Tiananmen Square. | ||
| Why would you lie about that? | ||
| I mean, that was a gross and disgusting human rights abuse and, frankly, genocide, where a dictatorial regime was literally mowing down students. | ||
| So Coach Walls... | ||
| Why weren't you standing for what you claim to be your values? | ||
| You're proud to stand up for gay students. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Why aren't you standing up for the Chinese people who are being brutalized? | ||
| And he continued to take Chinese government trips after that. | ||
| You overlay that with we know that a key element of Chinese party propaganda is to co-opt who they think could be. | ||
| Whether it was Eric Swalwell with Fang Fang, we remember that. | ||
| Whether it was Barbara Boxer's, Senator Boxer, Democrat, progressive from California, her driver. | ||
| Whether it was Trudeau in his government, his dad, who wrote a book about how great Mao was. | ||
| Or most recently, the chief of staff for the government of California. | ||
| This is a tried and true tradition of the Soviets and of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And I think there's very real questions of whether they've co-opted Walls to think that socialism with Chinese characteristics are a great and wonderful thing. | ||
| It is worth asking the questions. | ||
| I mean, Tim, Walls is somebody... | ||
| Who lied about where he was during Tiananmen Square, got married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square because he wanted something he could remember, honeymooned in China, and then took all the Chinese cash. | ||
| It's like we've seen this story before. | ||
| We've seen something very similar with the Biden family. | ||
| And what you just said, you detailed even some instances that we had forgotten on this program, Congressman. | ||
| This is ubiquitous. | ||
| Well, and even with Biden, what they call it is the princelings, right? | ||
| So in China, with the Chinese Communist Party and their mentality... | ||
| They don't go after the principal like Biden. | ||
| They go after the sons. | ||
| That's where kind of the dealing is done to then co-opt the family. | ||
| That's what they did with Trudeau and his dad when they invested in a young MP who later became prime minister. | ||
| This is, again, it's tried and true. | ||
| And when we have our greatest adversary infiltrating our universities, our sports industry, our media, when we have huge elements. | ||
| Our farmland, our food supply of American society that's drunk on Chinese dollars, that are worried about their next quarterly earning rather than any kind of corporate patriotism. | ||
| It's very, very concerning. | ||
| I don't think this is getting anywhere near the attention that it's due. | ||
| Yeah, we hope that those subpoenas get answered. | ||
| We don't have a lot of hope. | ||
| We're standing in line, I guess, with the subpoenas about which assassin, and we're starting to lose track, which assassin tried to take a shot at Trump. | ||
| This week, the DHS still refuses to get back to us on that. | ||
| Well, Benny, I would encourage you to look at the Senate DHS report. | ||
| I brought this up at the House Task Force's hearing just the other day. | ||
| Page 63, they talk about how the Secret Service was denied an intelligence request by the FBI. | ||
| Why wouldn't the FBI share intel with the Secret Service, particularly if it has to do with Iranian assassination plots, unless, and this is just conjecture on my part, but I tell you, I am digging hard, unless the administration with its Iran appeasement strategy was embarrassed by it. | ||
| Or worse, I don't know. | ||
| But these Iranian plots are very real, and we have heard nothing, zilch, zero. | ||
| From this administration in terms of don't do this, there will be consequences. | ||
| We haven't even had a strongly worded letter. | ||
| I mean, basically their silence is greenlighting Iran trying to kill a former president and his cabinet and his family, and they've been doing it for years. | ||
| And they are infiltrating these operatives through Venezuela over our southern border. | ||
| Another point of embarrassment. | ||
| I don't want to be an alarmist here, but Iran did make a video of shooting Trump from the grass inside of the weeds at his club. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They used an unmanned drone device to do it, but they're asking for this. | ||
| They're putting this plot out there, and then Ryan Ruth is somebody who was recruiting fighters from Iran to go to Ukraine. | ||
| This is all getting really weird, Congressman. | ||
| Yeah, and so the Secret Service, for what it's worth, is being much more forthcoming about all of their screw-ups, which were just jaw-droppingly bad at Butler. | ||
| The FBI, on the other hand, is going into its under-investigation mode. | ||
| We'll get around to it and giving the American people more information when we get around to it, when we're done with our investigation. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Finding out what happened this time next year, a year from now, Is unacceptable. | ||
| They need to be letting the American people know what they know it, when they know it, period. | ||
| So they're saying, well, we've got a prosecution with Ruth. | ||
| That's the excuse there. | ||
| What's the excuse with Crooks? | ||
| He's dead. | ||
| There's no prosecution. | ||
| What's going on with those encrypted accounts? | ||
| How did he learn to build those IEDs? | ||
| Who else was he working with? | ||
| And the fact that the Pakistani national merchant was arrested the day before the shooting at Butler, the other thing that came out in our hearing, none of the locals were told. | ||
| And we asked, would you have had a different security profile if you knew that the Iranians just had a plot thwarted? | ||
| We don't know how many more there are. | ||
| And they were like, yes, that would have been nice to know, number one, and number two. | ||
| But what I can't get a straight answer is, did the Secret Service know? | ||
| I just know they had their intelligence requests denied, according to the Senate's DHS report. | ||
| So the whole thing stinks, Benny, and we're going to stay on it. | ||
| Good. | ||
| We look forward to it. | ||
| We should book a weekly check-in to see where we're at with this investigation. | ||
| The Senate report is stunning, and I can't believe I'm complimenting Richard Blumenthal for this, but that guy's done it. | ||
| He's talking about subpoenaing Mayorkas and FBI. | ||
| They're so bad. | ||
| I mean, that's frustration when you have a Democrat talking about subpoenaing the DHS. | ||
| Secretary that's already been impeached. | ||
| I wish you had just taken up the impeachment instead of brushing it aside. | ||
| We only have a few minutes before this debate is popping off here, Congressman, in just three minutes. | ||
| President Trump heading back to Butler. | ||
| This is such an incredible act of defiance and strength. | ||
| I think we're going to see a pretty impressive display here tonight with J.D. Vance. | ||
| You know him. | ||
| You know President Trump. | ||
| Can you sort of lay the groundwork for what we're about to watch? | ||
| Yeah, no, I was just with Senator Vance last Wednesday in Orlando, and I mean, he's just so matter-of-fact that the facts and the policies are on our side, and you just compare that with where the world is today, where the country is today. | ||
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I mean, just today, we have multiple states. | |
| Under incredible suffering and distress from this hurricane. | ||
| Biden and Harris nowhere to be found. | ||
| Biden's out, you know, sitting in his beach chair. | ||
| Harris is sitting with a bunch of Hollywood elites. | ||
| You've got our ports shutting down. | ||
| And this is about to get very serious very fast with 40 percent of our containers shut down. | ||
| I mean, and that is from chips. | ||
| I mean, our economy is an economy of trade. | ||
| And, oh, by the way, how it's about to affect our farmers that have to move their produce very quickly before it perishes. | ||
| And you've got World War III, another war breaking out in the Middle East due to their fecklessness. | ||
| I mean, so a world in chaos, inflation that is killing our wallets, crime in our streets, and a border out of control, or what we had. | ||
| I mean, he's just going to compare and compare and compare. | ||
| And one thing that I hope he brings up, especially as a veteran, is that veterans' choice, our ability to go choose our doctors in our private sector, if the VA can't do its job, the most significant legislation in decades that Trump got passed, Walls voted against as the ranking Democrat on VA. | ||
| So we have right here, Congressman, you can see that the two have taken the debate stage. | ||
| And so with the last 30 or so seconds here, a word of encouragement to J.D. Vance before he goes into debate war here. | ||
| The facts are on your side, brother. | ||
| I mean, no American is better off four years later than they were under Trump's policies. | ||
| And just remind Americans of what he got done despite everything thrown at him. | ||
| Your job as vice president. | ||
| Is to be a messenger for the principal. | ||
| Thank you, Congressman. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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| Here's the debate. | ||
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| Rocking and rolling. | ||
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| I'm not going to drink. | ||
| I'm not going to drink. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| This is The Debate. | ||
| It's broadcast on CBS. | ||
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Tonight, just over a month to go until Election Day, the first and only meeting between the two men who hope to become vice president of the United States, Democratic Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota and Republican Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio. | |
| Now, this is likely the final debate of this election cycle, and voting is already underway in 20 states. | ||
| CBS News polling shows this remains a race either presidential candidate could win. | ||
| The CBS News vice presidential debate starts now. | ||
| We're going to take this country back. | ||
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And we are ready to continue to build the future together. | |
| We're going to turn this whole country red with President Donald J. Trump's leadership. | ||
| You know what's at the end of this little journey? | ||
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Kamala Harris as the next president of the United States. | |
| This is a CBS News special. | ||
| Live from CBS News headquarters in New York, America decides the vice presidential debate. | ||
| Good evening. | ||
| I'm Nora O'Donnell, and thank you for joining us for tonight's CBS News vice presidential debate. | ||
| We want to welcome our viewers on CBS, on other networks here in the U.S. and around the world. | ||
| We have a consequential night ahead, and our focus is the issues that matter to you, the voter. | ||
| Let's introduce the candidates. | ||
| Minnesota's Democratic Governor Tim Walz and Ohio's Republican Senator J.D. Vance tonight meeting for the first time. | ||
| I'm Margaret Brennan. | ||
| In order to have a thoughtful and civil debate these are the rules that both campaigns have agreed to Questions will be directed at one candidate who will have two minutes to respond. | ||
| The other candidate will be allowed two minutes for rebuttal. | ||
| Then each candidate will get another minute to make further points, with an additional one minute each at the discretion of the moderator. | ||
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| The stage is set. | ||
| Governor, Senator, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Let's get started. | ||
| Tonight our country is facing several unfolding crises. | ||
| The Middle East is on the brink of war. | ||
| Americans are suffering from the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene, and now a labor strike as 25,000 dock workers from Maine to Texas are picketing. | ||
| We're going to begin tonight with the Middle East. | ||
| Margaret. | ||
| Thank you, Nora. | ||
| Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel, but that attack failed thanks to joint U.S. and Israeli defensive action. | ||
| President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 U.S. military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war. | ||
| Iran is weakened. | ||
| But the U.S. still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon. | ||
| It is down now to one or two weeks' time. | ||
| Governor Walz, if you were the final voice in the Situation Room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| Well, thank you, and thank you for those joining home tonight. | ||
| Let's keep in mind where this started. | ||
| October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1,400 Israelis and took prisoners. | ||
| Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental. | ||
| Getting its hostages back, fundamental. | ||
| And ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. | ||
| The expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. | ||
| You saw it experienced today where, along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack. | ||
| But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter. | ||
| It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment. | ||
| But it's not just that. | ||
| It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. | ||
| His chief of staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he'd ever met. | ||
| And both of his secretaries of defense And his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House. | ||
| Now, the person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he's unfit for the highest office. | ||
| That was Senator Vance. | ||
| What we've seen out of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership. | ||
| We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together. | ||
| Understanding that our allies matter. | ||
| When our allies see... | ||
| Donald Trump turned towards Vladimir Putin, turned towards North Korea. | ||
| When we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed. | ||
| And as the vice president said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces, and there will be consequences. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Senator Vance, the same question. | ||
| Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| So, Margaret, I want to answer the question. | ||
| First of all, thanks, Governor. | ||
| Thanks to CBS for hosting the debate. | ||
| And thanks, most importantly, to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate. | ||
| I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are. | ||
| I was raised in a working-class family. | ||
| My mother required food assistance for periods of her life. | ||
| My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me. | ||
| And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life. | ||
| I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq. | ||
| And so I stand here asking to be your Vice President with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams. | ||
| And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable. | ||
| I want to try to convince you tonight over the next 90 minutes that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American dream is going to be attainable once again. | ||
| People were afraid of stepping out of line. | ||
| Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration. | ||
| What do they use that money for? | ||
| They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies, and God forbid, potentially... | ||
| Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question. | ||
| Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe, and we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys. | ||
| I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question. | ||
| Thank you, Senator. | ||
| Governor Walz, do you care to respond to any of the allegations? | ||
| Well, look, Donald Trump was in office. | ||
| We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed. | ||
| Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it. | ||
| Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place. | ||
| So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership. | ||
| And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted, because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump. | ||
| And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches. | ||
| Look, our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle. | ||
| He will go to whoever has the most flattery or where it makes sense to him. | ||
| Steady leadership like you witnessed today, like you witnessed in April. | ||
| Both Iranian attacks were repelled. | ||
| Our coalition is strong and we need the steady leadership that Kamala Harris is providing. | ||
| Senator Vance, the US did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear program and President Trump did exit that deal. | ||
| He recently said, just five days ago, the US must now make a diplomatic deal with Iran because the consequences are impossible. | ||
| Did he make a mistake? | ||
| You have one minute. | ||
| Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word, but I think that's something that Governor Walz just said is quite extraordinary. | ||
| You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been. | ||
| And Governor Walz, you blame Donald Trump. | ||
| Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years? | ||
| And the answer is your running mate, not mine. | ||
| Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure. | ||
| Now, we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now, and you can't... | ||
| Ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Walz bringing up. | ||
| But when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel? | ||
| It was during the administration of Kamala Harris. | ||
| So Governor Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world. | ||
| Donald Trump has already done it once before. | ||
| Ask yourself at home. | ||
| When was the last time, I'm 40 years old, when was the last time that an American president didn't have a major conflict breakout? | ||
| The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president. | ||
| Gentlemen, we have a lot to get to. | ||
| Nora? | ||
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Margaret, thank you. | |
| Let's turn now to Hurricane Helene. | ||
| The storm could become one of the deadliest on record. | ||
| More than 160 people are dead and hundreds more are missing. | ||
| Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger. | ||
| And more deadly because of the historic rainfall. | ||
| Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, 7 in 10 Americans and more than 60 percent of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the U.S. taking steps to try and reduce climate change. | ||
| Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact? | ||
| I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So first of all, let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy. | ||
| I just saw today actually a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child, and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives. | ||
| And I'm sure Governor Walz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible. | ||
| And of course, afterwards, to help the people in those communities rebuild. | ||
| I mean, these are communities that I love. | ||
| Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia, all across the Southeast. | ||
| They need their government to do their job. | ||
| And I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens of this country first when they suffer from a disaster. | ||
| Anora, you asked about climate change. | ||
| I think this is a very important issue. | ||
| Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns. | ||
| I think it's important for us, first of all, to say... | ||
| Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water. | ||
| We want the environment to be cleaner and safer. | ||
| But one of the things that I've noticed some of our Democratic friends talking a lot about is a concern about carbon emissions, this idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change. | ||
| Well, let's just say that's true. | ||
| Just for the sake of argument so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true. | ||
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Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do? | |
| The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible. | ||
| We're the cleanest economy in the entire world. | ||
| What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to? | ||
| More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world. | ||
| And when I say that, I mean... | ||
| The amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output. | ||
| So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people. | ||
| And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite. | ||
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Governor Walz, you have two minutes to respond. | |
| Well, we got close to an agreement because all those things are happening. | ||
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Look, first of all, it is a horrific tragedy. | |
| With this hurricane, and my heart goes out to the folks that are down there in contact with the governors. | ||
| I serve as co-chair of the Council of Governors. | ||
| We work together on these emergency managements. | ||
| Governors know no partisanship. | ||
| They work together. | ||
| So all of the governors and the emergency responders are on the ground. | ||
| Those happen on the front end. | ||
| The federal government comes in, makes sure they're there to recover, but we're still in that phase where we need to make sure that they're staying there, staying focused. | ||
| Now look, coming back to the climate change issue, there's no doubt this thing roared onto the scene faster and stronger than anything we've seen. | ||
| Senator Vance has said that there's a climate problem in the past. | ||
| Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in. | ||
| What we've seen out of the Harris administration now, the Biden-Harris administration, is we've seen this investment. | ||
| We've seen massive investments, the biggest... | ||
| Global history that we've seen in the Inflation Reduction Act has created jobs all across the country. | ||
| 2,000 in Jeffersonville, Ohio, taking the EV technology that we invented and making it here. | ||
| 200,000 jobs across the country. | ||
| The largest solar manufacturing plant in North America sets in Minnesota. | ||
| But my farmers know climate change is real. | ||
| They've seen 500-year droughts. | ||
| 500-year floods back to back. | ||
| But what they're doing is adapting, and this has allowed them to tell me, look, I harvest corn, I harvest soybean, and I harvest wind. | ||
| We are producing more natural gas and more oil at any time than we ever have. | ||
| We're also producing more clean energy. | ||
| So the solution for us is to continue to move forward that climate change is real. | ||
| Reducing our impact is absolutely critical, but this is not a false choice. | ||
| You can do that at the same time you're creating the jobs that we're seeing all across the country. | ||
| That's exactly what this administration has done. | ||
| We are seeing us becoming an energy superpower for the future, not just the current. | ||
| And that's what absolutely makes sense. | ||
| And then we start thinking about how do we mitigate these disasters? | ||
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| Senator, I want to give you an opportunity to respond there. | ||
| The governor mentioned that President Trump has called climate change a hoax. | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| Well, look, what the president has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing. | ||
| So clearly Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this. | ||
| If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies. | ||
| Now, something Governor Walz said I think is important to touch upon, because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that... | ||
| I'm talking, of course, about the Democratic leadership. | ||
| And the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're going to make the economy dirtier. | ||
| We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America. | ||
| Some of them are, Tim, but a lot of them are being made overseas in China, especially the components that go into those solar panels. | ||
| So if you really want to make the environment cleaner, you've got to invest in more energy production. | ||
| We haven't built a nuclear facility, I think, one in the past four years. | ||
| Senator, your time is up. | ||
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| Well, look, we're producing more natural gas than we ever have. | ||
| There's no moratorium on that. | ||
| We're producing more oil. | ||
| But folks know, and like I said again, these are not liberal folks. | ||
| These are not folks that are Green New Deal folks. | ||
| These are farmers that have been drought one year. | ||
| Massive flooding the next year. | ||
| They understand that it makes sense. | ||
| Look, our number one export cannot be topsoil from erosion from these massive storms. | ||
| We saw it in Minnesota this summer. | ||
| And thinking about how do we respond to that, we're thinking ahead on this. | ||
| And what Kamala Harris has been able to do in Minnesota, we're starting to weatherproof some of these things. | ||
| The infrastructure law that was passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future. | ||
| How do we make sure that we're protecting by burying our power lines? | ||
| How do we make sure that we're protecting lakefronts and things that we're seeing more and more of? | ||
| But to call it a hoax and to take... | ||
| The oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago say, give me money for my campaign, and I'll let you do whatever you want. | ||
| We can be smarter about that, and an all-above energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here. | ||
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| The overwhelming consensus among scientists is that the Earth's climate is warming at an unprecedented rate. | ||
| Margaret? | ||
| Thank you, Nora. | ||
| We're going to turn now to immigration. | ||
| The crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border consistently ranks as one of the top issues. | ||
| Senator Vance, your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass deportation plan in American history and to use the US military to do so. | ||
| Could you be more specific about exactly how this will work? | ||
| For example, would you deport parents who have entered the US illegally and separate them from any of their children who were born on US soil? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| So first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding. | ||
| We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies. | ||
| Ninety-four executive orders, suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system. | ||
| That has opened the floodgates. | ||
| And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country. | ||
| I had a mother I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels. | ||
| So you've got to stop the bleeding. | ||
| You've got to reimplement Donald Trump's border policies. | ||
| Build the wall. | ||
| Reimplement deportations. | ||
| And that gets me to your point, Margaret, about what do we actually do? | ||
| So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country. | ||
| What do we do with them? | ||
| I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants. | ||
| About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally. | ||
| I think you start with deportations on those folks. | ||
| And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers. | ||
| A lot of people will go home if they can't. | ||
| And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just want to earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work. | ||
| And the final point, Margaret, is you ask about family separation. | ||
| Right now in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost. | ||
| Some of them have been sex trafficked. | ||
| Some of them hopefully are at homes with their families. | ||
| Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules. | ||
| The real family separation policy in this country Is, unfortunately, Kamala Harris' wide-open southern border. | ||
| And I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember, when she came into office, she said she was going to do this. | ||
| Real leadership would be saying, you know what? | ||
| I screwed up. | ||
| We're going to go back to Donald Trump's border policies. | ||
| I wish that she would do that. | ||
| It would be good for all of us. | ||
| Governor. | ||
| Do you care to respond to any of those specific allegations, including that the vice president is, quote, letting in fentanyl and using kids as drug mules, among other things regarding children? | ||
| The drug mule is not true, but I will say about this, about the fentanyl, because this is a crisis of this, the opioid crisis. | ||
| And the good news on this is, is the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history. | ||
| 30% decrease in Ohio. | ||
| But there's still more work to do. | ||
| But let's go back to this on immigration. | ||
| Kamala Harris was the Attorney General of the largest state in a border state in California. | ||
| She's the only person in this race who prosecuted transnational gangs for human trafficking and drug interventions. | ||
| But look, we all want to solve this. | ||
| Most of us want to solve this, and that is the United States Congress. | ||
| That's the Border Patrol agents. | ||
| That's the Chamber of Commerce. | ||
| That's most Americans out here. | ||
| That's why we had the fairest and the toughest bill on immigration that this nation's seen. | ||
| It was crafted by... | ||
| A conservative senator from Oklahoma, James Lankford. | ||
| I know him. | ||
| He's super conservative, but he's a man of principle, wants to get it done. | ||
| Democrats and Republicans worked on this piece of legislation. | ||
| The Border Patrol said, this is what we need in here. | ||
| These are the experts. | ||
| And the Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal said, pass this thing. | ||
| Kamala Harris helped get there. | ||
| 1,500 new border agents. | ||
| Detection for drugs. | ||
| DOJ money to speed up. | ||
| These adjudications on this, just what America wants. | ||
| But as soon as I was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this, Donald Trump said no. | ||
| Told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. | ||
| It gives him, what would Donald Trump talk about if we actually did some of these things? | ||
| And they need to be done by the legislature. | ||
| You can't just do this through the executive branch. | ||
| So look, we have the options to do this. | ||
| Donald Trump had four years. | ||
| He had four years to do this, and he promised you, America, how easy it would be. | ||
| I'll build you a big, beautiful wall, and Mexico will pay for it. | ||
| Less than 2% of that wall got built, and Mexico didn't pay a dime. | ||
| But here we are again, nine years after he came down that escalator, dehumanizing people and telling them what he was going to do. | ||
| As far as a deportation plan, at one point, Senator Vance said it was so unworkable to be laughable. | ||
| So that's where we're at. | ||
| Pass the bill. | ||
| She'll sign it. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Senator, the question was, will you separate parents from their children, even if their kids are U.S. citizens? | ||
| You have one minute. | ||
| Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border. | ||
| And I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules. | ||
| I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country. | ||
| And we know that they use children as drug mules. | ||
| And it is a disgrace. | ||
| And it has to stop. | ||
| Look, I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test. | ||
| For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was going to undo Donald Trump's We had a record number of illegal crossings. | ||
| We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country. | ||
| And now, now that she's running for president, or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation. | ||
| The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed border czar, was to undo 90%. | ||
| 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border. | ||
| This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America. | ||
| Parents who can't afford health care, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop, and it will when Donald Trump is president again. | ||
| Senator, your time is up. | ||
| Governor, what about our CBS News polling, which does show that a majority of Americans, more than 50 percent, support mass deportations? | ||
| Look, we fixed this issue. | ||
| With a bill that is necessary. | ||
| But the issue on this is, this is what happens when you don't want to solve it. | ||
| You demonize it. | ||
| And we saw this. | ||
| And Senator Vance, and it surprises me on this, talking about and saying, I will create stories to bring attention to this. | ||
| That vilified a large number of people who were here legally in the community of Springfield. | ||
| The Republican governor said... | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| There's consequences for this. | ||
| There's consequences. | ||
| We could come together. | ||
| Senator Lankford did it. | ||
| We could come together and solve this if we didn't let Donald Trump continue to make it an issue. | ||
| And the consequences in Springfield were the governor had to send State law enforcement to escort kindergarteners to school. | ||
| I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point. | ||
| And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Senator, I'll give you one minute, but let me just ask you the question first. | ||
| The governor has made the point, and I think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that Congress controls the purse strings and any funding. | ||
| So you have said repeatedly that Donald Trump would, through executive action, solve this. | ||
| Do you disagree that Congress controls the purse strings and would need to support? | ||
| Many of the changes that you would actually want to implement. | ||
| You have one minute. | ||
| Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job. | ||
| I've been to the southern border more than our borders are. | ||
| Kamala Harris has been. | ||
| And it's actually heartbreaking because the Border Patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job. | ||
| Of course, additional resources would help. | ||
| But most of this is about the president and the vice president empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico. | ||
| You've got to go. | ||
| Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield. | ||
| Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed. | ||
| You've got hospitals that are overwhelmed. | ||
| You've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes. | ||
| The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border. | ||
| It is a disgrace, Tim. | ||
| Senator, your time is up. | ||
| Governor, you have one minute to respond. | ||
| Yeah, well, it is law enforcement that asked for the bill. | ||
| They helped craft it. | ||
| They're the ones that supported it. | ||
| That's because they know we need to do this. | ||
| Look, this issue of continuing to bring this up, of not dealing with it, of blaming migrants for everything. | ||
| On housing, we could talk a little bit about Wall Street speculators buying up housing and making them less affordable, but it becomes a blame. | ||
| Look, this bill also gives the money necessary to adjudicate. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It should not take seven years for an asylum claim to be done. | ||
| This bill gets it done in 90 days. | ||
| Then you start to make a difference in this, and you start to adhere to what we know, American principles. | ||
| I don't talk about my faith a lot. | ||
| But Matthew 2540 talks about, to the least amongst us, you do unto me. | ||
| I think that's true of most Americans. | ||
| They simply want order to it. | ||
| This bill does it. | ||
| It's funded. | ||
| It's supported by the people who do it. | ||
| And it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people. | ||
| Thank you, Governor. | ||
| And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status. | ||
| Temporary protected status. | ||
| Thank you, Senator. | ||
| We have so much to get to. | ||
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We're going to turn out of the economy. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| The rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check. | ||
| And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. | ||
| So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. | ||
| That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years. | ||
| That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. | ||
| Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. | ||
| We have so much to get to, Senator. | ||
| Those laws have been on the books since 1990. | ||
| Thank you, gentlemen. | ||
| The CBP one app has not been on the books since 1990. | ||
| It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret. | ||
| Gentlemen, you're... | ||
| The audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. | ||
| We have so much we want to get to. | ||
| Thank you for explaining the legal process. | ||
| Nora? | ||
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Thank you, Margaret. | |
| The economy is a top concern for voters. | ||
| Each of your campaigns has released an economic plan, so let's talk about the specifics. | ||
| Governor Walz, Vice President Harris unveiled a plan that includes billions in tax credits for manufacturing. | ||
| Housing and a renewed child tax credit. | ||
| The Wharton School says your proposals will increase the nation's deficit by $1.2 trillion. | ||
| How would you pay for that without ballooning the deficit? | ||
| Governor, I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| Kamala Harris and I do believe in the middle class because that's where we come from. | ||
| We both grew up in that. | ||
| We understand. | ||
| So those of you out there listening tonight, you're hearing a lot of stuff back and forth, and it's good. | ||
| It's healthy. | ||
| That's what this is supposed to happen. | ||
| You should be listening. | ||
| How's this going to impact me? | ||
| The bold forward plan that Kamala Harris put out there is one is talking about this housing issue. | ||
| The one thing is there's three million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house. | ||
| A house is much more than just an asset to be traded. | ||
| It's foundational to where you're at. | ||
| And then making sure that the things you buy everyday, whether they be prescription drugs or other things, that there's fairness in that. | ||
| Look, the $35 insulin is a good thing. | ||
| But it cost $5 to make insulin. | ||
| They were charging $800 before this law went into effect. | ||
| As far as the housing goes, I've seen it in Minnesota. | ||
| 12% more houses in Minneapolis. | ||
| Prices went down on rent 4%. | ||
| It's working. | ||
| And then making sure tax cuts go to the middle class. | ||
| $6,000 child tax credit, we have one in Minnesota, reduces. | ||
| Childhood poverty by a third. | ||
| We save money in the long run, and we do the right thing for families. | ||
| And then getting businesses off the ground. | ||
| The law as it stands right now is $5,000 tax credit for small business, increasing that to $50,000. | ||
| Now, this is a philosophical difference between us. | ||
| Donald Trump made a promise, and I'll give you this. | ||
| He kept it. | ||
| He took folks to Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| He said, you're rich as hell. | ||
| I'm going to give you a tax cut. | ||
| He gave the tax cuts that predominantly went to the top class. | ||
| What happened there was an $8 trillion increase in the national debt, the largest ever. | ||
| We're proposing a 20% consumption or sales tax on everything we bring in. | ||
| Everyone agrees, including businesses, it would be destabilizing it, it would increase inflation, and potentially lead to a recession. | ||
| Look, this is simple for you. | ||
| Where are we going? | ||
| Kamala Harris has said to do the things she wants to do, we'll just ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share. | ||
| When you do that, our system works best, more people are participating in it, and folks have the things that they need. | ||
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Senator, I want to give you a moment to respond on that. | |
| But similarly, the Wharton School has done an analysis of the Trump plan and says it would increase the nation's deficit by $5.8 trillion. | ||
| My question is the same for you. | ||
| How do you pay for all that without ballooning the deficit? | ||
| I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Walsh this evening, and you just heard it in the answer. | ||
| A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good. | ||
| Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it. | ||
| Because she's been the vice president for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%. | ||
| Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%. | ||
| Open the American southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans. | ||
| If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now. | ||
| Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago. | ||
| And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans. | ||
| Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record. | ||
| A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom. | ||
| Because Donald Trump's economic policies did deliver the highest take-home Now, Tim admirably admits that they want to undo the Trump tax. | ||
| cuts. | ||
| But if you look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take-home pay to middle-class and working-class Americans. | ||
| It was passed in 2017, and you saw an American That is a record that I'm proud to run on, and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again. | ||
| I know a lot of you are struggling. | ||
| A lot of you are worried about paying the bills. | ||
| It's gonna stop when Donald Trump It brings back common sense to this country. | ||
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Governor, do you want to respond to that? | |
| What has Kamala Harris done for the middle class? | ||
| Yeah, well, Kamala Harris's day one was Donald Trump's failure on COVID that led to the collapse for our economy. | ||
| We were already before COVID in a manufacturing recession, but 10 million people out of work, largest percentage since the Great Depression. | ||
| Nine million jobs closed on that. | ||
| That was day one. | ||
| Whether it was the Infrastructure Act or other things, we moved. | ||
| Now, you made a question about experts said this. | ||
| I've made a note of this. | ||
| Economists. | ||
| Don't be trusted. | ||
| Science can't be trusted. | ||
| National security folks can't be trusted. | ||
| Look, if you're going to be president, you don't have all the answers. | ||
| Donald Trump believes he does. | ||
| My pro tip of the day is this. | ||
| If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, not Donald Trump. | ||
| And the same thing goes with this. | ||
| And I ask you out there, teachers... | ||
| Nurses, truck drivers, whatever. | ||
| How is it fair that you're paying your taxes every year and Donald Trump hasn't paid any federal tax in the last 15 years and the last year as president? | ||
| That's what's wrong with the system. | ||
| There's a way around it and he's bragged about that. | ||
| We're just asking for fairness in it and that's all you want. | ||
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You have a minute. | |
| Governor, you say trust the experts. | ||
| But those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we'd get cheaper goods. | ||
| They lied about that. | ||
| They said if we shipped our industrial base off to other countries, to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the middle class stronger. | ||
| They were wrong about that. | ||
| They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, We're not doing it anymore. | ||
| We're bringing American manufacturing back. | ||
| We're unleashing American energy. | ||
| We're going to make more of our own stuff. | ||
| And this isn't just an economic issue. | ||
| And I've got three beautiful little kids at home, seven, four, and two. | ||
| And I love them very much, and I hope they're in bed right now. | ||
| But look, so many of the drugs, the pharmaceuticals that we We put in the bodies of our children are manufactured by nations that hate us. | ||
| This has to stop. | ||
| And we're not going to stop it by listening to experts. | ||
| We're going to stop it by listening to common sense wisdom, which is what Donald Trump governed on. | ||
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Senator, you're talking about Governor Walz. | |
| Can you address that? | ||
| I mean, voters say they trust Donald Trump on the economy more. | ||
| Why? | ||
| If you're listening tonight and you want billionaires to get tax cuts, you heard what the numbers were. | ||
| Look. | ||
| I'm a union guy on this. | ||
| I'm not a guy who wanted to ship things overseas, but I understand that, look, we produce soybeans and corn. | ||
| We need to have fair trading partners. | ||
| That's something that we believe in. | ||
| I think the thing that most concerns me on this is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China. | ||
| So the rhetoric is good. | ||
| Much of what the senator said right there, I'm in agreement with him on this. | ||
| I watched it happen, too. | ||
| I watched it to my communities, and we talked about that. | ||
| But we had... | ||
| People undercutting the right to collectively bargain. | ||
| We had right to work states made it more difficult. | ||
| We had companies that were willing to ship it over. | ||
| And we saw people profit. | ||
| Folks that are venture capital in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas. | ||
| We're in agreement that we bring those home. | ||
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The issue is Donald Trump is The issue is Donald Trump is a president of the United States of America. | |
| So what Tim Walz is doing, and I honestly, Tim, I think you've got a tough job here because you've got to play whack-a-mole. | ||
| You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did. | ||
| You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did. | ||
| And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens. | ||
| I was raised by a woman who would... | ||
| I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford. | ||
| We can do so much better. | ||
| To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again. | ||
| We have a lot to get to ahead, gentlemen, on many topics, but right now I want to talk about personal qualifications. | ||
| The vice president is often the last voice the president hears before making consequential decisions. | ||
| We want to ask you about your leadership qualities. | ||
| Governor Walz. | ||
| You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989. | ||
| But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year. | ||
| Can you explain that discrepancy? | ||
| Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small, rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you... | ||
| Rode your bike with your buddies till the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service. | ||
| I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms, and then I used the GI Bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher. | ||
| My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of '89 to travel to China. | ||
| 35 years ago, be able to do that. | ||
| I came back home. | ||
| And then started a program to take young people there. | ||
| We would take basketball teams. | ||
| We would take baseball teams. | ||
| We would take dancers. | ||
| And we would go back and forth to China. | ||
| The issue for that was to try and learn. | ||
| Now, look, my community knows who I am. | ||
| They saw where I was at. | ||
| Look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community. | ||
| I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect. | ||
| And I'm a knucklehead at times. | ||
| But it's always been about that. | ||
| Those same people elected me to Congress. | ||
| For 12 years. | ||
| And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits. | ||
| And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice. | ||
| So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right. | ||
| I will say more than anything. | ||
| Many times I will talk a lot. | ||
| I will get caught up in the rhetoric. | ||
| But being there. | ||
| The impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China. | ||
| I hear the critiques of this. | ||
| I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us. | ||
| I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID. | ||
| And I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing. | ||
| So this is about trying to understand the world. | ||
| It's about trying to... | ||
| Do the best you can for your community. | ||
| And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is. | ||
| My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about. | ||
| Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? | ||
| All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this. | ||
| So I will just, that's what I've said. | ||
| So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in. | ||
| And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. | ||
| Thank you, Governor. | ||
| What the hell? | ||
| Senator Vance, in 2016, you called your running mate Donald Trump unfit for the nation's highest office, and you said he could be America's Hitler. | ||
| I know you've said, you've been asked many times, and you've said you regret those comments. | ||
| And explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020. | ||
| But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president, writing to someone in 2020, quote, Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism. | ||
| You're now his running mate, and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his. | ||
| If you become vice president... | ||
| Why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear and not just the advice he wants to hear? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| Well, first of all, Margaret, because I've always been open. | ||
| And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the president, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump. | ||
| I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record. | ||
| But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people. | ||
| Rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on. | ||
| And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, When you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it. | ||
| It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what changed. | ||
| Now, you pointed out the messages from 2020. | ||
| Margaret, I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round if Congress was doing its job. | ||
| I strongly believe, and I've been a United States senator, that Congress is not just a high-class debating society. | ||
| It's not just... | ||
| It's not just a forum for senators and congressmen to whine about problems. | ||
| It's a forum to govern. | ||
| So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example, where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress had been a little bit better about how they governed the country. | ||
| They were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump, they couldn't actually govern. | ||
| And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax. | ||
| And you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden, but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs. | ||
| And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration, it's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers unless our country stands up. | ||
| Senator, your time is up. | ||
| Nora? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Now to the issue of reproductive rights. | ||
| Governor Walz, after Roe versus Wade was overturned, you signed a bill into law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion. | ||
| Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month He's absolutely fine. | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| Is that what you support? | ||
| I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| That's not what the bill says, but look, this issue is what's on everyone's mind. | ||
| Donald Trump put this all into motion. | ||
| He brags about how great it was that he put the judges in and overturned Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| 52 years of personal autonomy. | ||
| And then he tells us, oh, we send it to the states. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing. | ||
| Amanda Zaworski would disagree with you on it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| A young bride in Texas waiting for their child at 18 weeks. | ||
| She has a complication, a tear in the membrane. | ||
| She needs to go in. | ||
| The medical care at that point needs to be decided by the doctor. | ||
| And that would have been an abortion. | ||
| But in Texas, that would have put them in legal jeopardy. | ||
| She went home, got sepsis, nearly dies, and now she may have difficulty having children. | ||
| Or in Kentucky, Hadley Duvall, a 12-year-old child raped and impregnated by her stepfather. | ||
| Those are horrific. | ||
| Now, when God asked about that, Senator Vance said, two wrongs don't make a right. | ||
| There is no right in this. | ||
| So in Minnesota, what we did was restore Roe versus Wade. | ||
| We made sure that we put women in charge of their health care. | ||
| But look, if you don't know Amanda or Hadley, you soon will. | ||
| Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies. | ||
| It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible. | ||
| To get contraception and limit access, if not eliminate, access to infertility treatments. | ||
| For so many of you out there listening, me included, infertility treatments are why I have a child. | ||
| That's nobody else's business, but those things are being proposed. | ||
| And the catch-all on this is, well, the states will decide what's right for Texas might not be right for Washington. | ||
| That's not how this works. | ||
| This is basic human right. | ||
| We have seen maternal... | ||
| Mortality skyrocket in Texas, outpacing many other countries in the world. | ||
| This is about health care. | ||
| In Minnesota, we are ranked first in health care for a reason. | ||
| We trust women. | ||
| We trust doctors. | ||
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Senator, do you want to respond to the governor's claim? | |
| Will you create a federal pregnancy monitoring agency? | ||
| No, Nora, certainly we won't. | ||
| And I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it, and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic. | ||
| And, you know, I grew up in a working-class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options. | ||
| And, you know, one of them is actually very dear to me. | ||
| And I know she's watching tonight, and I love you. | ||
| And she told me something a couple years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship. | ||
| And I think that what I take from that, as a Republican who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at... | ||
| Earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us. | ||
| And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do. | ||
| I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word. | ||
| I want us to support fertility treatments. | ||
| I want us to make it easier for moms to afford to have babies. | ||
| I want to make it easier for young families to afford a home so they can afford a place to raise that family. | ||
| And I think there's so much that we can do. | ||
| On the public policy front, just to give women more options. | ||
| Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse. | ||
| And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia. | ||
| Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona. | ||
| And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions, let the individual states make their abortion policy. | ||
| And I think that's what makes the most sense in a very big, a very large way. | ||
| Governor, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions? | ||
| Yeah, well, the question got asked when Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about Minnesota. | ||
| Well, let me tell you about this idea that there's diverse states. | ||
| There's a young woman named Amber Thurman. | ||
| She happened to be in Georgia, a restrictive state. | ||
| Because of that, she had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care. | ||
| Amber Thurman died in that journey back and forth. | ||
| The fact of the matter is, how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights, as basic as the right to control your own body, is determined on geography? | ||
| There's a very real chance. | ||
| Had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would be alive today. | ||
| That's why the restoration of Roe versus Wade. | ||
| When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this subject and you hear me talk about it, you hear us talking exactly the same. | ||
| Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this. | ||
| I agree with a lot of what Senator Vance said about what's happening. | ||
| His running mate, though, does not. | ||
| And that's the problem. | ||
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Governor, your time is up. | |
| Senator, let me ask you about that. | ||
| He mentioned, I think, referring to a national ban. | ||
| In the past, you have supported. | ||
| A federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks. | ||
| In fact, you said if someone can't support legislation like that, quote, you are making the United States the most barbaric pro-abortion regime anywhere in the entire world. | ||
| My question is, why have you changed your position? | ||
| Well, Nora, first of all, I never supported a national ban. | ||
| I did, when I was running for Senate in 2022, talk about setting some minimum national standard. | ||
| For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in place in this country at the federal level. | ||
| I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance. | ||
| But, Nora, you know, one of the things that changed is in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023, and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my... | ||
| And I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust. | ||
| So many young women would love to have families. | ||
| So many young women also see an unplanned pregnancy as something that's going to destroy their livelihood, destroy their education, destroy their relationships. | ||
| And we have got to earn people's trust back. | ||
| And that's why Donald Trump and I are committed to pursuing pro-family policies, making child care more accessible, making fertility treatments more accessible, because we've got to do a better job at that. | ||
| And that's what real leadership is. | ||
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Governor, your response? | |
| I'm going to respond on the pro-abortion piece of that. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| We're pro-women. | ||
| We're pro-freedom to make your own choice. | ||
| We know what the implications are to not be that. | ||
| Women having miscarriages, women not getting the care, physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care. | ||
| And as far as making sure that we're educating our children and giving them options, Minnesota's estate is one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates. | ||
| We understand that, too. | ||
| We know that the options need to be available, and we make that true. | ||
| We also make it, we're a top three state, for the best place to raise children. | ||
| But these two things to try and say that we're pro-children, but we don't like this, or you guys are pro-abortion, that's not the case at all. | ||
| We are pro-freedoms for women to make their choices. | ||
| And we're going, and Kamala Harris is making the case, to make options for children more affordable, a $6,000 child tax credit. | ||
| But we're not going to base that on the backs of making someone like Amber Thurman drive 600 miles to try and get health care. | ||
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Senator? | |
| I may respond to that. | ||
| First of all, Governor, I agree with you. | ||
| Amber Thurman should still be alive. | ||
| And there are a lot of people who should still be alive. | ||
| And I certainly wish that she was. | ||
| And maybe... | ||
| You're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor... | ||
| who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion. | ||
| That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or pro-abortion, that is fundamentally barbaric. | ||
| And that's why I use that word, Nora, is because some of what we've seen, do you want to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will? | ||
| Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns. | ||
| To violate their freedom of conscience. | ||
| We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family. | ||
| But please. | ||
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Yes, Governor, please respond. | |
| Look, this is one where there's always something there. | ||
| This is a very simple proposition. | ||
| These are women's decisions to make about their health care decisions and the physicians who know best when they need to do this. | ||
| Trying to distort the way a law is written. | ||
| To try and make a point, that's not it at all. | ||
| But what was I wrong about, Governor? | ||
| Please tell me, what was I wrong about? | ||
| That is not the way the law is written. | ||
| Look, I've given this advice on a lot of things, that getting involved, that's been misread, and it was fact-checked at the last debate. | ||
| But the point on this is, is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved. | ||
| I use this line on this, just mind your own business on this. | ||
| Things worked best when Roe v. | ||
| Wade was in place. | ||
| When we do a restoration of Roe, that works best. | ||
| That doesn't preclude us Increasing funding for children. | ||
| It doesn't increase us from making sure that once that child's born, like in Minnesota, they get meals. | ||
| They get early childhood education. | ||
| They get health care. | ||
| So the hiding behind we're going to do all these other things, when you're not proposing them in your budget, Kamala Harris is proposing them. | ||
| She's proposing all those things to make life easier for families. | ||
| I asked a specific question, Governor. | ||
| You gave me a slogan as a response. | ||
| It's not the case. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| That's not what the law says. | ||
| So they fact-checked it with President Trump. | ||
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Gentlemen, there's a lot to discuss. | |
| We have to move on. | ||
| And we're going to be right back with much more of the CBS News vice presidential debate in just a moment. | ||
| Holy smokes! | ||
| That was crazy! | ||
| Holy moly! | ||
| That was just absolutely wild. | ||
| I just, I don't, I don't even know, I don't know where to begin. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| JD Vance has 50 IQ points on Tim Walls. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about just an Evergreen tweet? | ||
| JD Vance has 50 IQ points on Tim Walls. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let me begin by saying that Tim Walls is getting... | ||
| Tim Walls wishes he was in a war zone right now. | ||
| For the first time in Tim Walls' adult life, he wishes that he was in a war zone currently right now. | ||
| Because he is getting completely blown up in this debate, and it is not even fair. | ||
| Don't feel bad for Tim Walz. | ||
| Tim Walz is looking like a scared little pee-pee-in-his-pants boy. | ||
| It is not a fun night. | ||
| Tim Walz had to stand in front of the entire country and look like a person who is literally fighting for his life. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is so good. | ||
| Predator versus prey. | ||
| Who is the apex predator in this debate? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| By the way, ladies and gentlemen, just letting you know, of course, we have our entire excellent production team on hand, and we will go right back to the debate. | ||
| It's a commercial break. | ||
| The reason why we're stopping here is a commercial break. | ||
| We're not going to show you their CBS commercials, right? | ||
| It's going to be rigged commercials for Kamala Harris or whatever. | ||
| So as soon as the debate comes back on... | ||
| We're back. | ||
| You know how it goes around here. | ||
| But anyway, let's do a quick recap. | ||
| Okay, so J.D. Vance has calmly, coolly, professorally, if you wish, in the best possible term, been ripping the bark off a scared and skittish Tim Walz, who is, I mean, like... | ||
| Legitimately looks like he's soiled himself during this debate. | ||
| Team, load up the full fact check comment. | ||
| We got it? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The fact check is remarkable. | ||
| Remarkable. | ||
| This is the clip that's going to... | ||
| We were talking about this during the pre-show with Laura Trump, with Jim Jordan. | ||
| We were talking about this. | ||
| This question about where the hell were you during Tiananmen Square? | ||
| Why would you lie about it? | ||
| Why are you lying about all these things? | ||
| It's a career ender. | ||
| There's no other way to say it. | ||
| It's the single most awkward moment in the history of debates. | ||
| This is what I put up, okay? | ||
| I said, this is the single most awkward moment in the history of the debates. | ||
| Okay, let's go through it quickly. | ||
| Quickly, because we only have, you know, as soon as the debate's back, we'll go back. | ||
| Here's Tim Walz's direct family member celebrating at a President Trump watch party. | ||
| You want to know how bad things are going? | ||
| You want to know how bad omen when your direct family members are at the watch parties against you? | ||
| Whew, man. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Single most awkward moment in debate history. | ||
| Gotta play it. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We won't miss a second of the debate. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| Tim Wall is admitting he is just a massive, dirty, filthy rat liar on national TV. | ||
| Think of the values that people care about. | ||
| Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy? | ||
| All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this. | ||
| So I will just, that's what I've said. | ||
| So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in. | ||
| And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| So if you missed the pre-show or if you've missed the news on this today, because it broke just hours before, Tim Walls said, I was in China during Tiananmen Square. | ||
| He said this before. | ||
| Why you would brag about that, I don't know. | ||
| But he bragged about it. | ||
| And now he got called on it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Back to the debates. | ||
| Back to the debates. | ||
| We are live. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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Welcome back to the CBS News vice presidential debate. | |
| We want to turn now to America's gun violence epidemic. | ||
| The leading cause of death for children and teens in America is by firearms. | ||
| Senator Vance, you oppose most gun legislation that Democrats claim would curb gun violence. | ||
| You oppose red flag gun laws and legislation to ban certain semi-automatic rifles, including AR-15s. | ||
| So let me ask you, earlier this year, for the first time, The parents of a school shooter were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison. | ||
| Do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings? | ||
| Yeah, well, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions. | ||
| I think in some cases, the answer is going to be yes, and in some cases, the answer is going to be no. | ||
| And the details really matter here, of course. | ||
| For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's going to be different than if a parent hands over a gun, knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous. | ||
| But look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade. | ||
| And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school. | ||
| And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence. | ||
| And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff. | ||
| And we do have to do better. | ||
| And I think that Governor Walz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this. | ||
| The question is just how do we actually do it? | ||
| Now, here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence. | ||
| The gross majority, close to 90 percent in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country is committed with illegally obtained firearms. | ||
| And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartel. | ||
| So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago. | ||
| What do we do about the schools? | ||
| What do we do to protect our kids? | ||
| And I think the answer is, and I say this not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security. | ||
| But I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools. | ||
| We have to make the doors lock better. | ||
| We have to make the doors stronger. | ||
| We've got to make the windows stronger. | ||
| And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers, because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns. | ||
| Governor, you have two minutes. | ||
| Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is your biggest nightmare. | ||
| Look, I got a 17-year-old, and he witnessed a shooting at a community center playing volleyball. | ||
| Those things don't leave you. | ||
| As a member of Congress, I sat in my office surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents. | ||
| And they were looking at my seven-year-old picture on the wall. | ||
| Their seven-year-old were dead. | ||
| And they were asking us to do something. | ||
| And look, I'm a hunter. | ||
| I own firearms. | ||
| The vice president is. | ||
| We understand that the Second Amendment is there. | ||
| But our first responsibility is to our kids to figure this out. | ||
| In Minnesota, we've enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks. | ||
| And we can start to get data. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| If we really want to solve this, we've got folks that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence. | ||
| And this idea that we should just live with it, and here's what I do think, that this is a good start to the conversation. | ||
| I 100% believe that Senator Vance hates it when these kids, it's abhorrent and it breaks your heart. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| But that's not far enough when we know there are things that work. | ||
| I've spent time in Finland and seen some Finnish schools. | ||
| This happened, even though they have a high gun ownership rate in the country. | ||
| There are reasonable things that we can do to make a difference. | ||
| It's not infringing on your Second Amendment. | ||
| And the idea to have some of these weapons out there, it just doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Kamala Harris, as an attorney general, worked on this issue. | ||
| She knows that it's there. | ||
| No one's trying to scaremonger and say we're taking your guns, but I ask all of you out there, do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort? | ||
| Is that what we have to go when we know there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing these types of drills? | ||
| They're being kids. | ||
| We owe it to them to get a fix. | ||
| These are things that shouldn't be that difficult. | ||
| You can still keep your firearms, and we can make a difference. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart. | ||
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Senator? | |
| Tim, first of all, I didn't know that your 17-year-old witness is shooting. | ||
| I'm sorry about that, and I hope that you're doing okay. | ||
| Christ have mercy. | ||
| It is awful. | ||
| And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland, because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland. | ||
| First of all, we have way higher rates of mental health abuse or mental health... | ||
| We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety. | ||
| We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of, because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem, but I do think it's a big piece of it. | ||
| Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities. | ||
| And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away and take gun offenders off the streets. | ||
| I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here. | ||
| Senator, thank you. | ||
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Governor, you previously opposed an assault weapons ban, but only later in your political career did you change your position. | |
| Why? | ||
| Yeah, I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents. | ||
| I've become friends with school shooters. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time. | ||
| They used to teach gun safety. | ||
| I'm of an age where... | ||
| My shotgun was in my car so I could pheasant hunt after football practice. | ||
| That's not where we live today. | ||
| And several things I want to mention on this is, talking about cities and where it's at, the number one where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides. | ||
| And we have an epidemic of children getting guns and shooting themselves. | ||
| And so we have and we should look at all of the issues. | ||
| Making sure folks have health care and all that, but I want to be very careful. | ||
| This idea of stigmatizing mental health, just because you have a mental health issue, doesn't mean you're violent. | ||
| And I think what we end up doing is we start looking for a scapegoat. | ||
| Sometimes it just is the guns. | ||
| It's just the guns. | ||
| And there are things that you can do about it. | ||
| But I do think that this is one, and I think this is a healthy conversation. | ||
| I think there's a capacity to find solutions on this that work, protect the Second Amendment, protect our children. | ||
| That's our priority. | ||
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Gentlemen, thank you. | |
| Margaret? | ||
| Thank you, Nora. | ||
| Let's turn now to the top contributor to inflation, the high cost of housing and rent. | ||
| There's a shortage of more than 4 million homes in the United States, and that contributes to the high housing prices. | ||
| Governor Walz, the Harris campaign promises a $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers and a $10,000 tax credit. | ||
| They also promise To build 3 million new homes. | ||
| Where are you building these homes and won't handing out that kind of money just drive up prices higher? | ||
| No, it's not handing out. | ||
| First, let me say this. | ||
| This issue of housing, and I think those of you listening on this, the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity. | ||
| It can be bought up. | ||
| It can be shifted. | ||
| It can be moved around. | ||
| Those are not folks living in those houses. | ||
| Those of you listening tonight, that house is a big deal. | ||
| I bought and owned one house in my life. | ||
| My mom still lives in the house where I was. | ||
| And when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after midnight mass where you go with your family. | ||
| We need to make it more affordable. | ||
| And one of the things, as I said, this program that the vice president is up. | ||
| Pushing forward and bringing a new way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that lead. | ||
| We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing. | ||
| It starts to make it easier. | ||
| We cut some of the red tape. | ||
| Local folks, look, we can't do it at the federal level, but local folks make it easier to build those homes. | ||
| And then that down payment assistance. | ||
| I can tell all of you out there, one of the, certainly for me, using the GI Bill was one thing, but a veteran's home loan? | ||
| The big thing about a veteran's home loan is you don't have to pay the down payment. | ||
| Those are things that make it there. | ||
| Now, look, you're going to pay it back and you're going to pay your mortgage. | ||
| Those are things that we know in the long run, the appreciated value, the generational wealth that's created from it. | ||
| And I will give Minneapolis an example. | ||
| Minneapolis is the one city where we've seen the lowest inflation rates. | ||
| We've seen a 12 percent increase in stock because we put some of these things in and we're implementing. | ||
| A state program to make sure we give some of that down payment assistance. | ||
| We get it back from people because here's what we know. | ||
| People with stable housing end up with stable jobs. | ||
| People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school. | ||
| All of those things in the long run end up saving our money. | ||
| And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in, but we can't blame. | ||
| Immigrants, for the only reason, that's not the case that's happening in many cities. | ||
| The fact of the matter is, is that we don't have enough naturally affordable housing, but we can make sure that the government's there to help kickstart it, create that base. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Senator Vance, as far as your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and cut back on immigration, which you say pushes up. | ||
| Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising? | ||
| And what part of any of this plan will provide immediate relief? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with. | ||
| We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim. | ||
| 25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country. | ||
| why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership. | ||
| Now, Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas. | ||
| Now, some of those ideas I actually think are halfway decent and some of them I disagree with. | ||
| But the most important thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a newcomer to. | ||
| I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her, not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find... | ||
| Now, you asked, Margaret, what would immediately change the equation for American citizens if you lower energy prices? | ||
| As Donald Trump says, drill, baby, drill. | ||
| One of the biggest drivers of housing costs, aside from illegal immigration, is think about it. | ||
| If a truck driver's paying 40% more for diesel, then the lumber he's delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive. | ||
| If we open up American energy, you will get immediate. | ||
| Pricing relief for American citizens, not by the way just in housing, but in a whole host of other economic goods too. | ||
| Senator Vance, you still have 23 seconds there. | ||
| Do you want to answer where? | ||
| Governor, we will get to you in a moment. | ||
| But, Senator, where are you going to seize the federal lands? | ||
| Can you clarify? | ||
| Well, what Donald Trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything. | ||
| They're not being used for a national park. | ||
| They're not being used. | ||
| And they could be places where we build a lot of housing. | ||
| And I do think that we should be opening up building in this country. | ||
| We have a lot of land that could be used. | ||
| We have a lot of Americans that need homes. | ||
| We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes. | ||
| And we should be building more homes for the American citizens. | ||
| Who deserve to be here. | ||
| Senator, your time is up. | ||
| Governor, I do want to let you respond to the allegation that the Vice President is letting in migrants. | ||
| Well, of course, that's not true. | ||
| And again, you have the facts. | ||
| I guess we agreed not to fact check. | ||
| I'll check it. | ||
| Look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office. | ||
| But it's again... | ||
| Blaming and not trying to find the solution. | ||
| I was going to ask, though, on this question, are we going to drill and build houses in the same federal land? | ||
| And I think when people hear federal lands, these are really important pieces of land. | ||
| Now, Minnesota doesn't have a lot of federal lands. | ||
| I know in the western part of the countries we do. | ||
| There's not a lot of federal lands in and around Minneapolis, for example. | ||
| So the issue is I don't understand the federal lands issue unless we see this. | ||
| And I worry about this as someone who cares deeply about our national parks and our federal lands. | ||
| Look, Minnesota. | ||
| We protect these things. | ||
| We've got about 20% of the world's fresh water. | ||
| These lands protect. | ||
| They're there for a reason. | ||
| They belong to all of us. | ||
| But again, this is when you view housing and you view these things as commodities. | ||
| Like, there's a chance to make money here. | ||
| Let's take this federal land and let's sell it to people for that. | ||
| I think there's better ways to do this. | ||
| We've seen it in Minnesota. | ||
| We're able to refurbish some of these houses. | ||
| We're able to make some investments. | ||
| That gets people in. | ||
| And I'm still on the fact on this. | ||
| Economists. | ||
| Senator Vance, you said you don't like the economists. | ||
| Which economists are saying that it is immigrants that's adding to the cost? | ||
| Governor, your time is up, but Senator, on that point, I'd like for you to clarify, there are many contributing factors to high housing costs. | ||
| What evidence do you have that migrants are part of this? | ||
| Well, there's a Federal Reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate. | ||
| We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration and higher housing prices. | ||
| Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices. | ||
| It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris. | ||
| Look, we are a country of builders. | ||
| We're a country of doers. | ||
| We're a country of explorers. | ||
| But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail because And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes who aren't able to build homes. | ||
| I actually agree with Tim Walz. | ||
| We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity, but the thing that has most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people who have no legal right to be here. | ||
| What are the federal regulations? | ||
| I deal with this as a governor. | ||
| You can very quickly reply. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I get this as a governor, and I don't necessarily disagree with that, that in some cases, many of those are local. | ||
| Many of them are state. | ||
| I don't know which ones are federal, but I think whenever we talk regulations, people think they can get rid of them. | ||
| I think you want to be able to get out of your house in a fire. | ||
| I think you want to make sure that it's fireproof and those types of things. | ||
| So which are the regulations? | ||
| Because the vice president's not responsible for those. | ||
| Congress writes those. | ||
| Governor, thank you. | ||
| Gentlemen, we have a lot to get through. | ||
| You're passionate about the housing crisis, I can tell. | ||
| But Nora? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| One of the top problems facing Americans is the high cost of health care. | ||
| Senator Vance, at the last presidential debate, former President Trump was asked about replacing the Affordable Care Act. | ||
| In response, he said, I have concepts of a plan. | ||
| Since then, Senator, you've talked about changing how chronically ill Americans get health insurance. | ||
| Can you explain how that would work? | ||
| And can you guarantee that Americans with pre-existing conditions won't? | ||
| Pay more. | ||
| I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| We're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions. | ||
| In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care. | ||
| I believe, you know, members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership. | ||
| And I think that, you know, a lot of people have criticized this concepts of a plan remark. | ||
| It gets very simple common sense. | ||
| I think it's Tim Walls knows from 12 years in Congress. | ||
| You're not going to propose a 900-page bill standing on a debate stage. | ||
| It would bore everybody to tears. | ||
| And it wouldn't actually mean anything because part of this is the give and take of bipartisan negotiation. | ||
| Now, when Donald Trump was actually president, and again, he has a record to be proud of, prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time. | ||
| Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7%. | ||
| Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5%. | ||
| He introduced pricing transparency. | ||
| Think about health care. | ||
| You go into a hospital, you try to buy something, and nobody knows. | ||
| What it actually costs. | ||
| That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice and will also drive down costs. | ||
| And we talked about, you know, the reinsurance regulations is what I was talking about. | ||
| Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-chronically ill, it's not just a plan. | ||
| He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States. | ||
| And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged... | ||
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| I think it's an important point about President Trump. | ||
| Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done. | ||
| But when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program. | ||
| Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care. | ||
| It's not perfect, of course, and there's so much more that we can do. | ||
| But I I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better healthcare policies. | ||
| He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time. | ||
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Governor? | |
| All right. | ||
| Here's where being an old guy gives you some history. | ||
| I was there at the creation of the ACA. | ||
| And the reason it was so important is I come from a major healthcare state. | ||
| Home of the Mayo Clinic, home to Medical Alley, 3M, Medtronic, all of those. | ||
| We understand healthcare. | ||
| It's why we're ranked first on affordability and accessibility and quality of healthcare. | ||
| And so what I know is, under Kamala Harris, more people are covered than they have before. | ||
| Those of you listening, this is critical to you. | ||
| Now, Donald Trump all of a sudden wants to go back and remember this. | ||
| He ran on the first thing he was going to do on day one was to repeal Obamacare. | ||
| On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA. | ||
| He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA, but lost at the Supreme Court. | ||
| And he would have repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill. | ||
| Now, fast forward, what that means to you is you lose your pre-existing conditions. | ||
| If you're sitting at home and you got asthma, too bad. | ||
| If you're a woman, probably not. | ||
| Broke your foot during football, might kick you out. | ||
| Your kids get kicked out when they're 26. Kamala Harris negotiated drug prices for the first time with Medicare. | ||
| We have 10 drugs that will come online, the most common ones that will be there. | ||
| But look, this issue, and when Donald Trump said... | ||
| I've got a concept of a plan. | ||
| It cracked me up as a fourth grade teacher because my kids would have never given me that. | ||
| But what Senator Vance just explained might be worse than a concept because what he explained is pre-Obamacare. | ||
| And I'll make this as simple as possible because I have done this for a long time. | ||
| What they're saying is, if you're healthy, why should you be paying more? | ||
| So what they're going to do is let insurance companies pick who they insure, because guess what happens? | ||
| You pay your premium. | ||
| It's not much. | ||
| They figure they're not going to have to pay out to you. | ||
| But those of you a little older, gray, you know, got cancer, you're going to get kicked out of it. | ||
| That's why the system didn't work. | ||
| Kamala Harris will protect and enhance the ACA. | ||
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Governor, thank you. | |
| Senator, you have not yet explained how you would protect people with pre-existing conditions or laid out that plan. | ||
| Well, look, we currently have laws and regulations in place right now that protect people with pre-existing conditions. | ||
| We want to keep those regulations in place, but we also want to make the health insurance marketplace function a little bit better. | ||
| Now, what Governor Walz just said is actually not true. | ||
| A lot of what happened and the reason that Obamacare was crushing under its own weight is that a lot of young and healthy people were leaving the exchanges. | ||
| Donald Trump actually helped address that problem, and he did so in a way that preserved people's access to coverage who had pre-existing conditions. | ||
| Something that these guys do is they make a lot of claims about if Donald Trump becomes president, all of these terrible consequences are going to ensue. | ||
| But in reality, Donald Trump was president. | ||
| Inflation was low. | ||
| Take-home pay was higher. | ||
| And he saved the very program from a Democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership. | ||
| He did his job, which is govern, in a bipartisan way and get results, not just complain about problems, but actually solve them. | ||
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Governor, did enrollment under the Affordable Care Act go up under the Trump administration? | |
| It's higher now that we've seen it go up. | ||
| Look, people are using it. | ||
| The system works. | ||
| And the question about this, of young people or whatever, that's the individual mandate piece of this. | ||
| And Republicans fought tooth and nail saying, well, Americans should be free to do this. | ||
| So you think the individual mandate's a good idea? | ||
| I think the idea of making sure the risk pool is broad enough to cover everyone, that's the only way insurance works. | ||
| When it doesn't, it collapses. | ||
| You are asking pre-ACA where we get people out. | ||
| Look, people know that they need to be on health care. | ||
| People expect it to be there. | ||
| And when we are able to make it, and we are making it this way, when we incentivize people to be in the market. | ||
| When we help people who might not be able to afford it get there. | ||
| And we make sure then, when you get sick and old, it's there for you. | ||
| Because I heard people say, well, I don't want to buy into Medicare or whatever. | ||
| Good luck buying health care once you get past 70. So look, the ACA works. | ||
| We can continue to do better. | ||
| Kamala Harris did that. | ||
| The way she made everything better. | ||
| Was negotiating those 10 drugs on Medicare for the first time in American history. | ||
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Thank you, Margaret. | |
| I apologize. | ||
| We're out of time. | ||
| We have a number of subjects to discuss, Margaret. | ||
| Let's talk about families in America. | ||
| There is a child care crisis in this country, and the United States is one of the very few developed countries in the world. | ||
| Without a national paid leave program for new parents. | ||
| Governor Walz, you've said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you. | ||
| How long should employers be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns? | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's negotiable. | ||
| And that's what Congress worked. | ||
| But here's what the deal is. | ||
| Americans sitting out there right now. | ||
| You may work for a big company. | ||
| Look, we're home in Minnesota to some of the largest Fortune 500 companies. | ||
| Kamala Harris knows that in California. | ||
| Those companies provide paid family medical leave. | ||
| One is, I think they're moral and they think it's a good thing, but it also keeps their employees healthy. | ||
| We in Minnesota passed a paid family medical leave. | ||
| You have a child? | ||
| You. | ||
| And I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born. | ||
| This allows you to stay home a certain amount of time. | ||
| What we know is that gets the child off to a better start. | ||
| The family works better. | ||
| We stay in their employers. | ||
| We get more consistency in that. | ||
| So Kamala Harris has made it a priority. | ||
| We implemented it in Minnesota, and we see growth. | ||
| That's how you become a pro-business state. | ||
| But the negotiations on it, and here's the issue. | ||
| Those big companies are able to offer it. | ||
| Those of you out there who don't have it. | ||
| Just imagine what happens if you get cancer or your child gets sick. | ||
| We know what happens. | ||
| You end up staying home. | ||
| In some cases, that means no paycheck because you've got no protection on that. | ||
| This is the case of an economy that Donald Trump has set for the wealthiest amongst us. | ||
| He's willing to give those tax breaks to the wealthiest. | ||
| He's willing to say, bust those unions up, do whatever. | ||
| What we're saying is the economy works best. | ||
| When it works for all of us. | ||
| And so a paid family medical leave program, and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them. | ||
| As far as childcare on this, you have to take it at both the supply and the demand side. | ||
| You can't expect the most important people in our lives to take care of our children. | ||
| Or our parents to get paid the least amount of money. | ||
| And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business and then to make sure that folks are able to pay for that. | ||
| We were able to do it in Minnesota, and I'm still telling you this. | ||
| We were listed as the best state. | ||
| We're still in crisis on this. | ||
| A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our workforce, enhance our families, and make it easier to have the children that you want. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Senator, do you support a national paid leave program? | ||
| And if so, for how long should employers be mandated? | ||
| Yeah, well, first of all, Margaret, a number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue. | ||
| And I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue. | ||
| I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman who is an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids, but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator. | ||
| And I'm so proud of her. | ||
| But being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife, She's extraordinarily difficult. | ||
| And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective. | ||
| She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company. | ||
| But the cultural pressure on young families and especially young women. | ||
| I think it makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want. | ||
| A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately. | ||
| Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids. | ||
| Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids. | ||
| We should have a family care model that makes choice possible. | ||
| And I think this is a very important substantive difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's approach. | ||
| I mean, look, if you look at the federal programs that we have that support paid family leave right now, the Community Development Block Grant, and there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal. | ||
| These programs only go to one kind of child care model. | ||
| Let's say you'd like your church, maybe, to help you out with child care. | ||
| Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area, and you'd like to get together with families in your neighborhood to provide child care in the way that makes the most sense. | ||
| You don't get access to any of these federal monies. | ||
| We want to promote choice in how we deliver family care and how we promote child care. | ||
| It is unacceptable. | ||
| And, you know, of course, Tim and I have been on the campaign trail a lot the past seven or eight weeks. | ||
| And one of the biggest complaints I hear from young families is people who feel like they don't have options, like they're choosing between going to work or taking care for their kids. | ||
| That is an incredible burden to put on American families. | ||
| We're the only country that does it. | ||
| I think we could do a heck of a lot better. | ||
| Senator, thank you. | ||
| You have also said, Senator Vance, many things about the American family. | ||
| The Federal Reserve says parents will spend nearly as much on childcare as they do on housing each month. | ||
| So I want to get your thoughts on this. | ||
| President Trump recently said, as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, Not very expensive compared to the kinds of numbers we'll be taking in. | ||
| Is President Trump committed to the $5,000 per child tax credit that you have described? | ||
| You have one minute. | ||
| Well, what President Trump said, Margaret, I just want to defend my running mate here a little bit, is that we're going to be taking in a lot of money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country and undercut the wages of American workers. | ||
| It's the heart of the Donald Trump economic plan. | ||
| Cut taxes for American workers and American families. | ||
| Cut taxes for businesses that are hiring and building companies in the United States of America, but penalize companies and Can you clarify how that will solve the child care shortage? | ||
| Well, because as Tim said, a lot of the child care shortage is we just don't have enough resources going into the multiple people who could be providing family care options. | ||
| And we're going to have to, unfortunately, look, we're going to have to spend more money. | ||
| We're going to have to induce more people to want to provide child care options for American families because the reason it's so expensive right now is because you've got way too few people providing this very essential service. | ||
| Thank you, Senator. | ||
| Governor Walz, your ticket also has some child care tax credit proposals. | ||
| Do you think Congress will agree to the $6,000 credit for newborns and $3,000 credit for children over the age of six, as your campaign has promised? | ||
| Is that realistic? | ||
| Well, if these members of Congress are listening to anybody, I can tell you. | ||
| This is the biggest issue. | ||
| Everybody listening tonight knows. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure they were shocked to hear it's not that expensive. | ||
| And let's be clear, whether it's $5,000 or $6,000, that pays you about three or four months. | ||
| Let's be clear of where we're at on this. | ||
| It's because we got out of an imbalance on this. | ||
| We thought we were going to get by by not paying people. | ||
| I don't think Center Vance and I are that far apart. | ||
| I'm not opposed to what he's talking about on options. | ||
| We've done scholarships types of things. | ||
| I think we need to be open to making the case. | ||
| But the issue here is, the question you asked is, You're not going to pay for it with these tariffs. | ||
| That's just adding another $4,000 on the family and taking less. | ||
| So not only do they not get the money to pay for that, they're $4,000 in the hole. | ||
| That's Wharton School. | ||
| That's his alma mater. | ||
| And so I think the issue here is if those members of Congress, I can't believe they're not. | ||
| When I go to businesses, sure, they'll talk about taxes sometime, but they will lead with child care and they will lead with housing because we know the problem is, especially in a state like Minnesota, we need more workers because our economy is growing, but we need the workforce. | ||
| Governor, thank you. | ||
| We need to move on. | ||
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Nora? | |
| Let's talk about the state of democracy, the top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation. | ||
| After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results. | ||
| Judges, including those appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud. | ||
| The governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th. | ||
| Vance, you have said you would not have certified the last presidential election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors. | ||
| That has been called unconstitutional and illegal. | ||
| Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results, even if every... | ||
| Governor certifies the results. | ||
| I'll give you two minutes. | ||
| Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused on the future. | ||
| We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris's policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on. | ||
| But I want to answer your question because you did ask it. | ||
| Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues. | ||
| Peacefully in the public square. | ||
| And that's all I've said. | ||
| And that's all that Donald Trump has said. | ||
| Remember, he said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully. | ||
| And on January the 20th, what happened? | ||
| Joe Biden became the president. | ||
| Donald Trump left the White House. | ||
| And now, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris Biden administration. | ||
| I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about. | ||
| It is the threat of censorship. | ||
| It's Americans. | ||
| Casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics, it's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens, and it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation. | ||
| I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years. | ||
| Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue-collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of We ought to argue about them. | ||
| We ought to try to persuade our fellow Americans. | ||
| Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale. | ||
| She did it during COVID. | ||
| She's done it over a number of other issues, and that, to me, is a much bigger threat to democracy. | ||
| Governor? | ||
| Well, I've enjoyed tonight's debate, and I think there was a lot of commonality here, and I'm sympathetic to misspeaking on things, and I think I might have with the senator. | ||
| Me too, man. | ||
| There's one, though, that this one is troubling to me, and I say that because I think we need to tell the story. | ||
| Donald Trump refused to acknowledge this. | ||
| And the fact is, is that I don't think we can be the frog in the pot and let the boiling water go up. | ||
| He was very clear. | ||
| I mean, he lost this election and he said he didn't. | ||
| 140 police officers were beaten at the Capitol that day. | ||
| Some with the American flag. | ||
| Several later died. | ||
| And it wasn't just in there. | ||
| In Minnesota, a group gathered on the state Capitol grounds in St. Paul and said, we're marching to the governor's residence and there may be casualties. | ||
| The only person there was my son and his dog who was rushed out crying by state police. | ||
| That issue and Mike Pence standing there as they were chanting, hang Mike Pence. | ||
| Mike Pence made the right decision. | ||
| So, Senator, it was adjudicated over and over and over. | ||
| I worked with kids long enough to know, and I said as a football coach, sometimes you really want to win, but the democracy is bigger than winning an election. | ||
| You shake hands, and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win. | ||
| That's what was at stake here. | ||
| Now, the thing I'm most concerned about is the idea that imprisoning your political opponents, already laying the groundwork for people not accepting this. | ||
| And a president's words matter. | ||
| A president's words matter. | ||
| People hear that. | ||
| So I think this issue of settling our differences at the ballot box, shaking hands when we lose, being honest about it, but to deny what happened. | ||
| On January 6th, the first time in American history that a president or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power. | ||
| And here we are four years later in the same boat. | ||
| I will tell you this, that when this is over, we need to shake hands, this election, and the winner needs to be the winner. | ||
| This has got to stop. | ||
| It's tearing our country apart. | ||
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Margaret? | |
| Senator Vance, did you want to respond to that? | ||
| Yeah, well, look, Tim, first of all, It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country. | ||
| We are going to shake hands after this debate and after this election. | ||
| And of course, I hope that we win and I think we're going to win. | ||
| But if Tim Walsh is the next vice president, he'll have my prayers, he'll have my best wishes, and he'll have my help whenever he wants it. | ||
| But we have to remember that for years in this country, Democrats protested. | ||
| Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought like $500,000 worth of Facebook ads. | ||
| This has been going on for a long time. | ||
| And if we want to say that we need to respect the results of the election, I'm on board. | ||
| But if we want to say, as Tim Walz is saying, that this is just a problem that Republicans have had, I don't buy that. | ||
| Governor? | ||
| January 6th was not Facebook ads. | ||
| And I think a revisionist history on this. | ||
| Look, I don't understand how we got to this point. | ||
| But the issue was that happened. | ||
| Donald Trump can't do it. | ||
| And all of us say there's no place for this. | ||
| It has massive repercussions. | ||
| This idea that there's censorship to stop people from threatening to kill someone, threatening to do something, that's not censorship. | ||
| Censorship is book banning. | ||
| We've seen that. | ||
| We've seen that brought up. | ||
| I just think for... | ||
| Everyone tonight. | ||
| And I'm going to thank Senator Vance. | ||
| I think this is the conversation they want to hear. | ||
| And I think there's a lot of agreement. | ||
| This is one that we are miles apart on. | ||
| This was a threat to our democracy in a way that we had not seen. | ||
| And it manifested itself because of Donald Trump's inability to say. | ||
| He is still saying he didn't lose the election. | ||
| I would just add to that. | ||
| Did he lose the 2020 election? | ||
| Tim, I'm focused on the future. | ||
| Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation? | ||
| That is a damning non-answer. | ||
| It's a damning non-answer for you to not talk about censorship. | ||
| Obviously, Donald Trump and I think that there were problems in 2020. | ||
| We've talked about it. | ||
| I'm happy to talk about it further. | ||
| But you guys attack us for not believing in democracy. | ||
| The most sacred right under the United States democracy is the First Amendment. | ||
| You yourself have said there's no First Amendment right to misinformation. | ||
| Kamala Harris wants to use the power of government and big tech to silence people from speaking their minds. | ||
| That is a threat to democracy that will long outlive this present political moment. | ||
| I would like Democrats and Republicans to both reject censorship. | ||
| Let's persuade one another. | ||
| Let's argue about ideas, and then let's come together afterwards. | ||
| You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. | ||
| That's the test. | ||
| That's the Supreme Court test. | ||
| Tim, fire in a crowded theater. | ||
| You guys wanted to kick people off of Facebook for saying that toddlers shouldn't wear masks. | ||
| Senator, the governor does have the floor. | ||
| Fire in a crowded theater. | ||
| That is criticizing the policies of the government, which is the right of every American. | ||
| Senator, the governor does have the floor for one minute to respond to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I don't run Facebook. | ||
| What I do know is, is I see a candidate out there who refused, and now again, and I'm pretty shocked by this, he lost the election. | ||
| This is not a debate. | ||
| It's not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump's world. | ||
| Because look, when Mike Pence made that decision to certify that election, that's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage. | ||
| What I'm concerned about is, where is the firewall with Donald Trump? | ||
| Where is the firewall if he knows he could do anything, including taking an election? | ||
| And his vice president's not going to stand to it. | ||
| That's what we're asking you, America. | ||
| Will you stand up? | ||
| Will you keep your oath of office, even if the president doesn't? | ||
| And I think Kamala Harris would agree. | ||
| She wouldn't have picked me if she didn't think I would do that. | ||
| Because, of course, that's what we would do. | ||
| So, America, I think you've got a really clear choice on this election of who's going to honor that democracy and who's going to honor Donald Trump. | ||
| Governor, your time is up. | ||
| Thank you, gentlemen. | ||
| We will be right back. | ||
| with both of our candidates. | ||
| The CBS News vice presidential debate continues. | ||
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The CBS News Okay, holy smokes. | |
| Like, are you freaking kidding me? | ||
| Are you kidding me right now? | ||
| I've become friends with school shooters, says Tim Walz. | ||
| Are you like, are you watching the same debate that I'm watching? | ||
| Now, like, I'll tell you, it's not me on the debate stage. | ||
| Someday, we love you. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| Someday, maybe, God willing, I will get a chance to actually sit inside a debate prep with one of these dudes. | ||
| We got a couple of buddies, right, who are on the rise. | ||
| So maybe in the decades in the future, I'll get a chance to sit in the debate. | ||
| If they bring up January 6th, here's what you do. | ||
| If they bring up January 6th, this is what they did. | ||
| They spent the last 10 minutes on. | ||
| January 6th. | ||
| If they bring this up, here's what you do. | ||
| You say, oh, a threat to democracy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, how about the 15 million Democrats who voted for Joe Biden? | ||
| And you just threw those votes in the trash compactor. | ||
| How about those people? | ||
| Are you embarrassed that you're running with someone? | ||
| Your current presidential nominee has never received a single vote, has never done a single interview, never won a single state? | ||
| That she didn't do a single debate? | ||
| That she was anointed queen? | ||
| In violation of your party rules? | ||
| In violation of the voters and their will? | ||
| That you forced Joe Biden out of office? | ||
| That you grabbed that guy by the dusty, dandruffy scruff of his neck and threw him into the mouth of an open volcano? | ||
| Do you get a chance to come back with that and say, you want to destroy democracy? | ||
| Nobody voted for your presidential candidate. | ||
| You're an illegitimate vice president. | ||
| There you go! | ||
| That's the end. | ||
| I become friends with school shooters. | ||
| He did literally say this. | ||
| He did say this. | ||
| Donald Trump saying, J.D., partisan moderators. | ||
| Fact check, fact! | ||
| They've tried to fact check J.D. Vance three or four times. | ||
| They promised they wouldn't fact check. | ||
| This debate. | ||
| They've tried to fact check three or four times during the debate. | ||
| A remarkable and egregious lie. | ||
| Richard Grinnell saying, my gay friends are melting down over this debate. | ||
| They are openly saying he's ruining their chances. | ||
| Oh, baby. | ||
| Nor O'Donnell is lying, says our friend Julie Kelly. | ||
| Maybe we'll have her on the show tomorrow to fact check. | ||
| Fact checkers. | ||
| 2020 election lawsuits by saying that all judges reviewed the evidence and tossed the cases. | ||
| This is 100% wrong. | ||
| No judge actually reviewed the evidence. | ||
| Speaking of people who have evidence of greatness, here's ALX with Alina Hava, the great Alina Hava. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Get ready, Tampon Tim, she says. | ||
| You're gonna get trolled. | ||
| Oh, yeah, baby. | ||
| Tim Wall is the first white male DEI hire in history, and it shows. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| What a despicable group of moderators. | ||
| What a despicable, despicable lot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| Donald Trump sounding off. | ||
| Donald Trump's imposing a lot. | ||
| We'll have all of this post for you after the debate is over. | ||
| The debate is not over. | ||
| They'll have closing statements here. | ||
| Did Tampa Tim just say he's become friends with school shooters? | ||
| He's not even qualified to be governor, much less vice president. | ||
| Walls and Combinate do not have what it takes. | ||
| Tim Walls is bombing, dude. | ||
| Tim Walls is bombing. | ||
| Brennan fact-checks Vance and neglects the entire context. | ||
| Vance calls her out on it, so she shuts off their mics. | ||
| These debate moderators are despicable. | ||
| They're despicable. | ||
| Not a single adversarial question. | ||
| One. | ||
| One adversarial question about where Tim Walz was during Tiananmen Square. | ||
| This is, like, not a single question about Tim Walz's service. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| Hopefully they'll bring it up. | ||
| We're live! | ||
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Welcome to CBS News vice presidential debate. | |
| It is now time for the closing statement. | ||
| Senator Vance won the virtual coin toss and elected to go last. | ||
| So, Governor Walz, you are first. | ||
| You have two minutes. | ||
| Well, thank you, Senator Vance. | ||
| Thank you to CBS News. | ||
| And most importantly... | ||
| Thank you to all of you. | ||
| If you're still up and the folks who miss Dancing with our Stars, I appreciate it. | ||
| But look, the support of the democracy matters. | ||
| It matters that you're here. | ||
| And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built, from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift and a whole bunch of folks in between there. | ||
| And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people. | ||
| They believe in a positive future of this country and one where our politics can be... | ||
| Better than it is. | ||
| And I have to tell you, that better than it is is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy that works for everyone, not just to get by, but to get ahead. | ||
| And the idea that freedom really means something. | ||
| Not the freedom of government to be in your bedroom or exam room, but the freedom for you to make choices about yourself. | ||
| Now, look, we all know who Donald Trump is. | ||
| He's told us, and as Maya Angelou said, Believe him when he told you that. | ||
| His first inaugural address talked about American carnage, and then he spent four years trying to maybe do that. | ||
| Senator Vance tonight made it clear he will stand with Donald Trump's agenda. | ||
| He will continue to push down that road. | ||
| Kamala Harris gives us a different option. | ||
| Now, I have to tell you, I'm going to be careful about the quotes, but there's one that Senator Vance said that does resonate with me. | ||
| He said, Donald Trump makes the people I care about afraid. | ||
| A lot of America feels that way. | ||
| We don't need to be afraid. | ||
| Franklin Roosevelt was right. | ||
| All we have to fear is fear itself. | ||
| Kamala Harris is bringing us a new way forward. | ||
| She's bringing us a politics of joy. | ||
| She's bringing real solutions for the middle class. | ||
| And she's centering you at the heart of that. | ||
| All the while asking everyone, join this movement. | ||
| Make your voices heard. | ||
| Let's look for a new day. | ||
| Where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive. | ||
| I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris. | ||
| Governor Walz, thank you. | ||
| Senator Vance, your closing statement. | ||
| Well, I want to thank Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening. | ||
| And one of the issues we didn't talk about was energy. | ||
| And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night and because money was often very tight. | ||
| And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat in the middle of a cold winter night. | ||
| That's gotten more difficult, thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies. | ||
| I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family. | ||
| That's gotten harder. | ||
| I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house. | ||
| You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods. | ||
| You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl. | ||
| And that, too, has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies. | ||
| Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed. | ||
| She's been the vice president for three and a half years. | ||
| Day one was 1400. | ||
| Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world. | ||
| I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family. | ||
| What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world, but they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams. | ||
| with the broken leadership that we have in Washington. | ||
| They're not going to be able to live their American dream. | ||
| We need a new direction. | ||
| We need a president who has already done this once before and did it well. | ||
| Please vote for Donald Trump. | ||
| And whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Walz, I just want to say I'm so proud to be doing this and I'm rooting for you. | ||
| God bless you and good night. | ||
| Senator Vance, thank you. | ||
| And thank you both for participating in the only vice presidential debate of this election cycle. | ||
| I'm Margaret Brennan. | ||
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And I'm Nora O'Donnell. | |
| And a reminder, there are just 35 days until Election Day. | ||
| Please get out and vote. | ||
| And for all of us here at CBS News, thank you and good night. | ||
| The first and only vice presidential debate. | ||
| This election is now complete. | ||
| It was a courtial debate of a kind that people mostly say they want. | ||
| You notice here the two candidates lingering on the stage. | ||
| That's quite a difference from the presidential debate in which it was not even sure that Vice President Harris and Donald Trump would shake hands. | ||
| It was a debate in which the line, I appreciate what Tim said about Finland, was one of the many ways in which... | ||
| Senator Vance agreed with the governor. | ||
| The governor agreed right back. | ||
| But that's the tone and the kind of theater review of this. | ||
| I'll pick out two issues on the question. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Shut up, you cracked voice, limp-wristed, absolute freaking twam. | ||
| I am not going to ever listen to anyone ever lecture again. | ||
| That Republicans should take these debates because the people need to see what the party is. | ||
| I'm going to walk away from a couple of things on the debate right now. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Republicans need to stop doing these rigged debates. | ||
| There are real problems in this country. | ||
| Every single question, even questions on immigration or questions on inflation or questions on housing were framed to attack J.D. Vance. | ||
| Walls represents the party in power. | ||
| They should have to answer for the state of the country. | ||
| Every single question. | ||
| Every single question. | ||
| What about climate? | ||
| The start of the debate was three questions about climate change, for God's sake. | ||
| You know what climate change is? | ||
| Unlike things that people care about, it's 289,000 down the list. | ||
| Enough. | ||
| Enough with this. | ||
| New meme template just dropped. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| Holy moly. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Did J.D. Vance just cook? | ||
| Did J.D. Vance cook, baby? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at some of the polls in the polymarket. | ||
| So Tim Walls, because everybody believed that J.D. Vance was some creepy weirdo, right? | ||
| Because they live in a bubble. | ||
| They don't actually see J.D. Vance. | ||
| They don't know J.D. Vance. | ||
| Imagine, like, tuning in, assuming that J.D. Vance is some, like, lunatic that wants to, I don't know, like, watch your children while they sleep or whatever, whatever they say on MSNBC. | ||
| And then finding out that J.D. Vance is cool, calm, collected, reasonable, thoughtful, smart, does the best debate performance a Republican probably in, I would say probably in modern history. | ||
| I would argue that this is the best debate performance by a Republican on a national stage in modern American history. | ||
| I would argue. | ||
| And here's why. | ||
| This is not a knock against President Trump necessarily. | ||
| Because President Trump's done seven or eight of these. | ||
| This debate had real substance and real conversations about policy. | ||
| And a real articulate answers. | ||
| It shows that J.D. Vance goes on adversarial corporate media every single weekend, sometimes three or four times a weekend. | ||
| It shows. | ||
| And it shows that Tim Walz has never even once been on Fox News. | ||
| Tim Walz has never once gotten a question from a Republican. | ||
| And so J.D. Vance turning. | ||
| The debate around on him and J.D. Vance was kind to Tim Walz. | ||
| He never brought up stolen valor. | ||
| He never brought up the fact that he's being investigated by the House Oversight Committee for his ties to China. | ||
| He never, he just let the guy talk and the guy destroyed himself. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Tim Walz was the favorite because people believed the propaganda and now collapsed. | ||
| Collapsed. | ||
| A collapse? | ||
| Who will win the VP debate according to the polls? | ||
| Walls, chants, destroyed. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| Just look at it. | ||
| CBS cussed J.D. Vance's mic after he fired back at hosts for fact-checking his response on the Haitian migrant crisis. | ||
| Oh, their fact-checks were fake. | ||
| I'm so sick of this. | ||
| I'm so sick of allowing our candidates to get abused like this. | ||
| I am losing my patience. | ||
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I am at capacity. | |
| For these hack moderators having one side rig the debate again and again and again and again. | ||
| I am so sick of it. | ||
| Do we have the clip? | ||
| The clip of them cutting the mics. | ||
| So the one time that the candidates wish to debate, in the debate, these absolute, total hacks, mouthy, smarmy, always had to get in the last word. | ||
| F you. | ||
| Like, nobody paid you. | ||
| Nobody's asking for you. | ||
| Whoever the hell you are, I don't know who they are. | ||
| Who's Margaret Brennan? | ||
| Who's Nora O'Donnell? | ||
| Who listens to these people? | ||
| They have zero audience. | ||
| You have no audience. | ||
| Nobody cares about you. | ||
| Without your little corporate bubble, you're nothing. | ||
| And they'll throw you out like yesterday's trash. | ||
| Next election cycle, there'll be some other dumb, useful Muppet in your chair. | ||
| And you'll be nothing because you have no audience. | ||
| You have no actual viewers. | ||
| You have no real connection to real people. | ||
| I'm disgusted by this one moment. | ||
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Let's play it. | |
| To clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status. | ||
| Temporary protected status. | ||
|
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Senator, we have so much to get to. | |
| We're going to turn out of the economy. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The rules were that you guys were going to fact check. | ||
| And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. | ||
| So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. | ||
| That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years. | ||
| Thank you, Senator. | ||
| That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. | ||
| Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. | ||
| We have so much to get to, Senator. | ||
| Those laws have been on the books since 1990. | ||
| Thank you, gentlemen. | ||
| The CBT-1 app has not been on the books since 1990. | ||
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It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret. | |
| Gentlemen, you're... | ||
| The audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. | ||
| We have so much we want to get to. | ||
| Thank you for explaining the legal process. | ||
| Megyn Kelly saying, F-U-C-B-S, how dare you? | ||
| Try to fact-check Day-D, get put in your place, then you won't let him fight and you won't let him debate, is what Megyn Kelly says. | ||
| Let's establish a couple of real quick things here. | ||
| Nobody is voting for Margaret Brennan or Nora O'Donnell. | ||
| You despicable hacks. | ||
| You witches. | ||
| Nobody's voting for you. | ||
| You're not on the ballot. | ||
| Nobody's tuning in to hear your thoughts or fact checks or your opinions on these things. | ||
| They're tuning in to listen to the people who actually have the guts and the balls to be on the ballot. | ||
| And yeah, I'm also talking about Tim Walz, okay? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Everyone wants to hear what Tim Walz has to say, and it wasn't pretty tonight. | ||
| Nobody's listening to you, the moderators. | ||
| You flipping cretins. | ||
| Like, you self-obsessed, fart-smelling, bubble lunatics, smooth brains. | ||
| Who the hell do you think you are? | ||
| Do you really honestly believe, you nihilistic, truly, truly black hole narcissists, do you actually believe that people tune in to listen to your opinions? | ||
| They don't! | ||
| Let me tell you what a Benny Johnson debate moderator would look like. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| In our lifetime, who knows? | ||
| Let me tell you what it would look like. | ||
| I do got opinions. | ||
| So does everyone. | ||
| What it would look like is it to be me asking the question and letting the people talk. | ||
| You can see it every single day on our show. | ||
| Ask the question. | ||
| Let the principal, Jim Jordan was on the show, Laura Trump was on the show, let them answer. | ||
| Because we invited them on to do an interview. | ||
| They're the principal. | ||
| We're asking the question, in what world do you believe, in what world can you possibly justify that you're going to sit there and interrupt and dare to cut the mic of the actual candidate? | ||
| And if you did it to Tim Walz, I'd also be angry. | ||
| Because they're the people we want to hear from. | ||
| And it's called a debate, and for the first time... | ||
| These two dudes were debating. | ||
| They were going back and forth. | ||
| But the actual, just like in the last ABC News debate, the real debate was with the moderators. | ||
| These hack scum. | ||
| I'm so done with it. | ||
| I am sick of it. | ||
| I've got a belly full. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I don't think in the 2020, the next, I think that next presidential cycle, these companies won't exist. | ||
| I really believe that in my heart of hearts. | ||
| I think there won't be a CBS News and there won't be an ABC News. | ||
| And I can tell you this, we know pretty much everyone who'd want to run for president next time around. | ||
| Like, they're like, you know, we're like, people call us and ask our advice on these things. | ||
| And I will say, don't you ever agree to a debate. | ||
| And if you do, set the terms. | ||
| Set the terms yourself. | ||
| Say you refuse to have those moderators. | ||
| A despicable, a despicable act. | ||
| Speaking of despicable act, check this out. | ||
| Donald Trump has just posted a sign that says Trump Vance. | ||
| But you have to look at the... | ||
| Not friends with school shooters. | ||
| Donald Trump has posted in all caps during the debate. | ||
| Everyone knows... | ||
| I would not support a federal abortion ban under any circumstances and would in fact veto it because it is up to the states to decide based on what the will of their voters are. | ||
| The will of the people. | ||
| Like Ronald Reagan before me. | ||
| And he said, I support three branches of government and so on. | ||
| It could not be more clear that Donald Trump will veto a national abortion ban. | ||
| He said it before many times. | ||
| The simplest statement he can make. | ||
| Position absolutely obvious and unequivocal. | ||
| Elon Musk following up. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
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You've... | |
| Look, you either believe in smaller government or bigger government on these things. | ||
| The debate in one image. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Just. | ||
| Just perfection. | ||
| This is a new meme format. | ||
| This is now, these are all the memes. | ||
| How many memes do we got based on this image? | ||
| Let's stack them up so we can see them. | ||
| Megyn Kelly. | ||
| Tim Walz did repeal a law that protected babies born alive after failed abortions. | ||
| So this guy got called. | ||
| This guy got called on this topic. | ||
| And then lied about it. | ||
| Tim Walls repeals Minnesota law protecting babies born after failed abortion. | ||
| Five babies died in Minnesota after they were born alive due to a failed or induced abortion in 2021. | ||
| A despicable goblin, Tim Walls. | ||
| A sickening goblin. | ||
| He also told a lie that there were less border crossings than when Donald Trump was in office. | ||
| Blue, the blue bar, are border crossings under Kamala Harris, and the red bar are border crossings under Trump. | ||
| Let me ask you a question here. | ||
| I know it's not a Venn diagram, so maybe Kamala can't read it. | ||
| Like, where was the fact check on this? | ||
| CBS? | ||
| Scum? | ||
| So sick of these people. | ||
| J.D. Vance might have a higher IQ than all three other of the women on stage combined. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Man, what a gangster. | ||
| What an absolute gangster. | ||
| Flipping the script on Tim Walls. | ||
| It's making him look stupid. | ||
| Tim Walls. | ||
| This is from Stephen Chung. | ||
| He's one of the top guys at the Trump campaign. | ||
| Tim Walls. | ||
| I've become friends with school shooters. | ||
| Kamala. | ||
| Do we have that clip? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Tim Wall say he's become friends with school shooters. | ||
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...opposed an assault weapons ban, but only later in your political career did you change your position. | |
| Why? | ||
| Yeah, I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents. | ||
| I've become friends with school shooters. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time. | ||
| They used to teach gun safety. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| He was also arguing that the federal government doesn't have a lot of land. | ||
| The red is the federal government land. | ||
| Federal government has half the country. | ||
| This is insane and should be illegal and should, like, was certainly not, like, including, like, a decent portion of Minnesota. | ||
| Why does the federal government own all this land? | ||
| Federal government owns huge swaths of land in all states. | ||
| Look at Alaska. | ||
| This is unbelievable. | ||
| Alaska, you don't even have a real state. | ||
| Same as Nevada. | ||
| What the hell is going on here? | ||
| Tim Walls. | ||
| The federal government doesn't have enough land to give up to the people he owns. | ||
| The federal government has hoovered up half the country. | ||
| I become friends with school shooters. | ||
| This is probably the line of the debate right now. | ||
| New meme format just dropped, says Tim Pool. | ||
| And then you know that Tim Walls lost when Meghan McCain is doing this. | ||
| Vance is absolutely sweeping the floor. | ||
| It's like the end of Mortal Kombat game that this debate just started. | ||
| I'm not a fan of Vance. | ||
| Meghan McCain saying, don't kill a messenger here. | ||
| Don't kill a messenger. | ||
| No one ever said the debates don't matter because Wall's done a lot of damage this evening. | ||
| There's a lot of Democrats panicking in my timeline. | ||
| Don't shoot the messenger. | ||
| Vibes and joy continue to not be a game plan. | ||
| At a certain point, you have to actually perform and have a platform. | ||
| Frank Lunds saying that the focus group, that his focus group says by a 10-3 margin that J.D. Vance won the debate. | ||
| Only five of them were leading towards advance before the debate. | ||
| Do we have any polling, guys, from after the debate? | ||
| Let's see if there are any, like, snap polls. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Tim Wall says, the claim that Kamala Harris is letting millions of illegal immigrants is false and that border crossings are down. | ||
| Why doesn't CBS check these numbers? | ||
| So interesting. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| Scratch the head. | ||
| He said he did what with school shooters? | ||
| I'm friends with a lot of school shooters. | ||
| This is not a filter. | ||
| This was the debate in one image. | ||
| It's pretty much. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Who will win the debate? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Tough night. | ||
| Really, really tough night. | ||
| I'm not sure if Danny Deerbino wants to hop on. | ||
| He's a producer of the program. | ||
| I know that we have... | ||
| We just pop our panel on, just see what everybody else thought. | ||
| And then also, ladies and gentlemen, we are very, very thankful for your Super Chats. | ||
| We're really thankful to the new members. | ||
| There was a lot going on on screens. | ||
| We didn't put up chats the same way that we normally do. | ||
| But we're going to do some Super Chats. | ||
| We're going to do some Super Chats here with our... | ||
| Danny, what's up, man? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Hey, dude. | ||
| Quite a debate we just had there. | ||
| That was rough. | ||
| That was rough, homie. | ||
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Yeah, that was... | |
| We all just watched Tim Wall's funeral tonight. | ||
| That was... | ||
| I think that was worse than even he could have possibly expected. | ||
| So, I saw this... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Please. | |
| I mean, you saw these bait moderators. | ||
| They were like... | ||
| Basically throwing him lifesavers just to try to keep him afloat. | ||
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They're like, are you sure that's what J.D. Vance said was correct? | |
| They kept lobbing up these responses, and he didn't even take the bait. | ||
| He didn't even go like, yeah, you're right. | ||
| He totally missed the mark, and I think even the debate moderators were pretty disappointed by his performance tonight. | ||
| I mean, I didn't count a single adversarial question. | ||
| They asked a very small chin music question about the CNN report. | ||
| Where were you during Tiananmen Square? | ||
| That's really the lightest possible critique of Tim Walz. | ||
| Everything else was like, but our polling shows this. | ||
| None of it was the least bit venomous or an actual attack on anything that Kamala Harris or Tim Walz has done. | ||
| None of it. | ||
| None of it could ever be considered an attack, right? | ||
| A question was an attack. | ||
| Every question was an attack on J.D. Vance. | ||
| The way the whole debate was framed, too, was every question was aimed towards something that would prop up or motivate the Democrat base. | ||
| We didn't really hear a lot of questions about, hey, why are all our grocery bills up? | ||
| Why is rent going through the roof? | ||
| Why can't young people buy a home? | ||
| They didn't ask that question. | ||
| J.D. Vance tried to present that reality. | ||
| To the public. | ||
| And they instantly would change the topic. | ||
| Oh, we have a lot to cover. | ||
| Oh, actually, you're wrong. | ||
| Fact-checking. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| The way it was all set up was totally rigged. | ||
| And even then, J.D. Vance was a clear victor, even though they tried to throw everything at him just from a structural standpoint. | ||
| And then they asked Tim Walls again about the Tiananmen Square thing. | ||
| And he says, I learned a lot about governance. | ||
| Well, that's really interesting, actually, because are you saying that the Chinese Communist Party is the model? | ||
| That your buddies in China are the model for governance? | ||
| Because if you actually look at the way Kamala Harris governs, it's a lot closer to that than the true free republic. | ||
| So it's kind of interesting he just threw that out there. | ||
| I'm seeing this sentiment a lot. | ||
| Sorry to cover your face here with Super Chat, Danny, but we're going to go through some of the Super Chats here. | ||
| I no longer wish Vivek Ron Suami was Vice President. | ||
| Vance killed it tonight. | ||
| You know, we're massive Vivek fans around here. | ||
| He's a friend of the show. | ||
| I was rooting for him to be Vice President. | ||
| I think we did a great job. | ||
| But I think JD Vance won over the entire country tonight. | ||
| That's the sentiment I'm seeing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I was scrolling through my feed throughout that entire debate. | ||
| And again, you just saw leftists melting down, going like, okay, this is bad now. | ||
| At one point, they just wake up to reality. | ||
| And then, of course, you see, I think something our side was looking forward to is just that extra motivation leading up to election day. | ||
| It's like, yeah, this is our guy. | ||
| We haven't seen a whole lot of J.D. vans out on the stump, necessarily. | ||
| I think it's hard to out-hype Trump when he's out there doing everything every day. | ||
| But whenever we get that Tonight, we just got the J.D. Vance's uninterrupted presentation of his style, his platform. | ||
| People really liked it, and I think it's a really good motivator just leading up to Election Day. | ||
| He has a really solid ticket. | ||
| It's not just Trump. | ||
| It's like J.D. Vance is going to be a power team going into the White House. | ||
| It's a very motivating point that you just made there. | ||
| I think he actually supports Trump in a way that Pence never did. | ||
| Pence was never like a thought leader. | ||
| He was always just like this aw shucks. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Very white bread. | ||
| Aw shucks. | ||
| Never once did Mike Pence lead on any issue. | ||
| Until he backstabbed Trump. | ||
| Then he finally found the guts to lead on something. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And so, J.D. Vance really is certainly his own man, even though if he was backstabbed by the moderators today. | ||
| Two questions here. | ||
| The moderators mistakenly believe they are conducting an interview rather than a debate. | ||
| This is actually a really great point. | ||
| And also points on Springfield, Ohio here. | ||
| We have to have the people do the questions. | ||
| Me and my wife love you, says COSA2008. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| Actually, our pitch in to the... | ||
| Trump campaign is we'll just take questions from the chat. | ||
| We'll just go sit with Trump because, you know, I think we'd ask Trump great questions. | ||
| I couldn't I would love to ask him questions, but it'd be really neat to just hear from normal people. | ||
| I think that's actually where you get the best questions. | ||
| And I wish we could really break out of this corporate media bubble of like Noro. | ||
| Who do you think is more in line with like what Americans concerns are like your PTA mom living? | ||
| In Asheville, North Carolina right now? | ||
| Or Nora O'Donnell? | ||
| Who hasn't driven herself in 20 years? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Again, they did this during the debate against Kamala. | ||
| And then they did it again today where they dedicated an entire section of the debate to talk about the threat to democracy. | ||
| And it's just so rigged because... | ||
| I mean, J.D. Vance finally flipped the script on them, and I think they weren't expecting it. | ||
| But he flipped the script on it and went like, no, actually, Democrats are the threat to democracy. | ||
| We know this. | ||
| But the way the question is framed is to make it look like, oh, Republicans hate this and hate that. | ||
| But I think, yeah, J.D. Vance just crushed it today. | ||
| It was a really solid performance. | ||
| So Donald Trump did say tampon Tim. | ||
| So I guess that nickname is going to stick. | ||
| My instant reaction to that was I wasn't sure that was going to be a nickname that sticks, but I think it does stick, even though they didn't bring it up during the debate. | ||
| It's going on Tim Walls' gravestone after tonight. | ||
| Tim Walls straight up lied, man. | ||
| Bro, he lied about his abortion law. | ||
| He lied about China in the bait. | ||
| Like, this was the lightest possible touch that he could have gotten. | ||
| They didn't even get to him lying about his rank in the military 400 times about his service. | ||
| They didn't get to any of the hard stuff, right? | ||
| Like, the fact, like, what an obvious line of questioning. | ||
| Why wouldn't they ask that, you know? | ||
| Like, all these guys have come out and gone public. | ||
| Like, they've all gone public. | ||
| Yeah, I would go a step further and say it's not that they didn't get to it. | ||
| They went over time. | ||
| They had more time than they actually expected. | ||
| And they purposely avoided any topic that sort of broached that area. | ||
| They just totally wanted to cover their guy, their campaign. | ||
| Because we know the fix is in with the media. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| We keep going back to these same debate formats. | ||
| And we know what we're walking into. | ||
| And it's like a total trap. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| I think the media might rethink their strategy after tonight, just seeing how J.D. Vance just totally flipped the tables on them. | ||
| They weren't expecting it. | ||
| J.D. Vance, you are straight fire. | ||
| J.D. Vance, NBC is arguably worse than ABC for its bias. | ||
| Walt looked like a lying clown. | ||
| Vance has been great, clear, concise, common sense, and accurate. | ||
| It's like really interesting, Danny. | ||
| The fact that they were so harsh on J.D. Vance. | ||
| And he was able to ring a bell so clearly on these topics. | ||
| It makes that even better for him. | ||
| It wouldn't have been the same if it was Sean Hannity asking JD Vance lob up balls. | ||
| It's almost like you can only hit a home run because the ball is moving so fast toward you that you are able to strike it with the inertia and take that energy and launch it out beyond the stadium. | ||
| And that's what JD Vance was tonight. | ||
| He was grabbing the kinetic energy and using it All the negative energy, he was using it, and making it much more dynamic, I think, than many debates that we've seen in recent memory. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's spot on. | ||
| I think he also just tapped into a frustration that many Americans have, and it's that they know we've, for almost, I mean, more than this, but notably the last, like, 10 years, is we've had a media that has continually lied to us about every narrative, whether it was COVID or whether it was the Russia hoax. | ||
| Or even January 6th. | ||
| And they know that it's one machine. | ||
| It's the Democrat machine that has been crushing hardworking Americans for ages, coupled with a media apparatus, coupled with big tech, whatever it is. | ||
| But tonight we saw J.D. Vance. | ||
| He knew he wasn't just going up against Tim Walz. | ||
| Tim Walz is not a bright guy. | ||
| He wasn't going to go very far. | ||
| He knew he had to be prepared to go against the machine. | ||
| Against the media machine, against the Democrat apparatus. | ||
| And I think he crushed it. | ||
| I think that's what made it really notable. | ||
| Every viral clip I saw tonight was him fact-checking the fact-checkers. | ||
| Fact-checking the machine. | ||
| And I think that's why he had such viral energy tonight. | ||
| He just brought it. | ||
| So they had a QR code to fact-check. | ||
| Live during these debates. | ||
| It's really grotesque. | ||
| Do you believe that Republicans should just say no to this model of debate? | ||
| Not saying no to debates. | ||
| I mean, I think that that's wrong, right? | ||
| They did that with Carrie Lake in Arizona. | ||
| And this is how they were able to really meddle in the election there. | ||
| Not saying no to debates. | ||
| Saying no to this model of debate. | ||
| Where it's obviously rigged against one side. | ||
| As these debates have been for my entire life and your entire life. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's just going to take a muscular Republican response. | ||
| We saw Kamala totally bow out of the Fox News debate. | ||
| We saw Joe Biden just bow out of the foreign affairs debate last go and look at how the world is turning out now. | ||
| He just conveniently did not show up to that debate. | ||
| And we just didn't hear what his policy positions were going to be. | ||
| And we found out now. | ||
| So, Democrats is... | ||
| I'll continually, repeatedly say, hey, I'm just not going to go to the debate. | ||
| And it's not a problem because, again, the media is going to tread their water. | ||
| But I think Republicans should just go, yeah, we're not going to do it. | ||
| And I think that will elicit a reciprocal response where Democrats are going to go, okay, well, if we want to debate at all, then maybe we have to succumb to at least one right-leaning or just neutral, friendly debate. | ||
| I think the propaganda only goes so far. | ||
| And what they do is they take these opportunities where millions and hundreds of millions of people are watching, arguably. | ||
| And I mean, it's definitely hundreds of millions when you add up all the views. | ||
| They take these opportunities to try and counteract everything that happens on X, everything that happens on Facebook, everything that happens on Instagram, because we're just better at social media than them. | ||
| And this is the last thing they have left. | ||
| It's the last vestige they have left. | ||
| And Republicans walk in there like sheep. | ||
| And allow moderators like Kristen Welker, Russia Gators, Collusion Hoaxers, these people who endorse Kamala Harris, we let them have access to our candidate? | ||
| We should say no. | ||
| We should say no on its face from now on. | ||
| I truly believe that the moderation lie, that this independent lie of the press needs to die. | ||
| And this election, I've never seen anything as egregious as the ABC debate. | ||
| I think that that was worse than this debate. | ||
| This debate was really, really bad as well. | ||
| They lied. | ||
| CBS News put out a press release that they wouldn't fact-check, and they fact-checked three times, Danny. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And they were all clearly biased towards one side. | ||
| I think the whole thing is, if we understand that the media or this media Democrat apparatus is pitted against us, then why do we keep feeding the machine? | ||
| I was tracking all the streams tonight, and all the top streams were corporate networks. | ||
| We're just feeding their audiences. | ||
| I will say, we did beat NBC tonight, so we'll take that. | ||
| NBC News got crushed by our stream tonight. | ||
| So thanks for tuning in, guys. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we had CBS with hundreds of thousands of live concurrent viewers because we were just feeding their broken, rotten machine. | ||
| And so if we want to starve them of that attention, we should just not give them the fire, not go on their programs. | ||
| Counterprogram with real journalists. | ||
| And I think that's how we defeat them. | ||
| So we have some responses here from President Trump. | ||
| Let's hop on over. | ||
| J.D. crushed it. | ||
| Walls is a low IQ disaster, very much like Kamala. | ||
| Our country would never be able to recover from an administration of these two. | ||
| Can you imagine them representing sharp, fierce foreign leaders? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Our dear friend, Julie Kelly. | ||
| Saying that Vance took it easy on walls a couple of times. | ||
| I would have liked to have seen J.D. Vance go for the juggler on some occasions. | ||
| That said, low-key, diplomatic, serious, even kindly performance was brilliant. | ||
| He introduced himself to millions of Americans who have been told by the media that he's an evil, woman-hating ogre. | ||
| Successfully debunked the media as grotesque and misleading for terror. | ||
| I totally agree with that. | ||
| Here's another super chat here. | ||
| Thank you, Big Daddy B. Vance is spitting fire. | ||
| Very smart dude. | ||
| I think that's the major takeaway here, Danny, is that this was like J.D. Vance's, not the RNC. | ||
| I think the RNC was like muted and the RNC was all going to be about Donald Trump and the assassination attempt, rightfully so. | ||
| I think this was actually J.D. Vance's time to shine. | ||
| Even if the... | ||
| Isn't it amazing? | ||
| The moderators don't even say, like, sorry that the guy you're running with got shot and has had multiple assassination attempts on his life. | ||
| I find it remarkable that we have the incapacity to actually bring those things up at this debate. | ||
| They don't even apologize and say, sorry that happened to you. | ||
| They act like they disappear. | ||
| It really is a sick industry. | ||
| But I think that this is the major breakout point for J.D. Vance. | ||
| It's my entire timeline. | ||
| Everything on my feed is about JVMs right now, which I hadn't really seen in weeks past. | ||
| Hey, I was promised memes. | ||
| We got some meme makers in the crew. | ||
| I was told there would be memes. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| That's a few. | ||
| Just a few. | ||
| Alright, let's go. | ||
| You guys want to see a game recognized game as the Decker chat? | ||
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That's my personal favorite. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Dude, you know when the memers are in that you are winning. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's some polling. | ||
| JD Vance winning early VP debate polls, including in hyper-liberal Baltimore, Maryland. | ||
| This won't even come out as a shock. | ||
| Wow, the Baltimore Sun saying JD Vance wins. | ||
| Whew, baby. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here's Rasmussen. | ||
| Brave New World destroyed. | ||
| Tim Walls destroyed. | ||
| What are our parting thoughts here? | ||
| Lots of meme energy from JD Vance. | ||
| I think that this is a massive win. | ||
| I think there's no other way to define it. | ||
| It's a massive win, and it probably is the boost that Trump needs to break and flip the election, I think. | ||
| Single cat ladies vote Harris by 36 points. | ||
| Trump wins among all other cat owners. | ||
| Big of truth. | ||
| JD Vance got scared off by the childless cat lady controversy, as his advisor told him to humanize himself by being nice. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he could have gone really hard. | ||
| Do you think that would have been a mistake, Danny? | ||
| I don't think he needed to. | ||
| I mean, we know what's certain right now, and it's that this is a commanding victory by J.D. Vance. | ||
| And so you change anything else in that calculus, and you could end up with a different result. | ||
| I think this played extremely well for him. | ||
| I mean, yes, he could have gone harder, but I just, I think he was, you know, Tim Walls was cooked by just the moment he walked on stage. | ||
| He was already talking about Iran's right to defend itself. | ||
| It was chaos from that moment on, so I don't think he needed to go that hard. | ||
| I think he said what he needed to say and presented his vision for the country, presented the other side as China-simping maniacs and warmongers, and I think that's all he needed to do. | ||
| Danny, I want to advise you on something. | ||
| I know you're a little bit younger than me, but I wish to give you some life advice from an older man who's seen a lot. | ||
| Don't make friends with school shooters. | ||
| I just want to pass on that wisdom. | ||
| Don't believe Tampon Tim. | ||
| Don't make friends with school shooters, please. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's all I ask. | ||
| Silence, Tampon Tim, the hillbilly is speaking. | ||
| Okay, I'll live with that for the last meme. | ||
| Alright, what do we got? | ||
| Why don't we watch Tucker's reaction to this and Maddow's meltdown since Rachel Maddow is somehow morphing into Tucker Carlson. | ||
| The reason we have it, Rachel Maddow asks, is Tucker Carlson hired her. | ||
| I don't know if you are aware of that story way back when he was at MSNBC. | ||
| Tucker Carlson worked at NBC. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's Tucker's snap reaction. | ||
| Short control is what struck me most. | ||
| He's very smart. | ||
| He's a friend of mine. | ||
| I know he's very smart. | ||
| Legitimately high IQ character. | ||
| But he kept his emotions in check in a way that I could never do. | ||
| He had these shrieking liberal narcissists as the moderators and he had this Sort of sad, but also very creepy guy he was debating, and he never one time seemed annoyed. | ||
| Not one time. | ||
| Hey, there you go. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I think that really translates. | ||
| I think I do agree with this, Danny. | ||
| Vibes do translate on these kind of things. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| He seemed calm, in control, and Democrats always like to talk about the adults being back in charge, and you look at the past. | ||
| Four years, and I think it's very clear that it's been quite the opposite of that. | ||
| Just from the, you know, pretty eclectic scenes we've seen from the White House lately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think this is totally like a very, yeah, the vibe is, you know, in control and sharp, which is the leadership I think Americans are looking for right now. | ||
| These cutaways to Tim Walls are super weird, man. | ||
| He was like, he did a lot. | ||
| Doesn't have a good profile look on him. | ||
| And he was always going out of frame. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's like wobbling out of frame. | ||
| My entire X feed was saying that he looked like the sardine, the anchovies from Spongebob. | ||
| And I gotta say, it was pretty spot on. | ||
| Just like the open mouth, like gaping. | ||
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He did. | |
| He went to the Biden debate school. | ||
| Okay, let's go to Rachel Maddow's reaction. | ||
| Big picture takeaway from this is that one of these candidates is much slicker than the other, is a much more practiced kind of professional debate style speaker, and the other candidate won. | ||
| There was one bad moment for Tim Walls in this debate where he got mixed up and embarrassed in answering a question about exactly what month he had been in China in relation to the Tiananmen Square protest, but then on, Guns on January 6th, on Obamacare, on the economy, on blaming everything on the border, back again on healthcare, on abortion, on every issue on substance. | ||
| J.D. Vance was very polished and very slick, and Tim Walls beat him on all the substantive points. | ||
| At least that was my take on it. | ||
| Is she conducting an orchestra? | ||
| What are these hand gestures? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| She's going to be really upset at this meme. | ||
| She's not going to like this one. | ||
| Good old, good old tampon Tim. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Here's what Danny is talking about. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| Here's your sardines. | ||
| That is what he looks like. | ||
| Wide open mouth, yeah. | ||
| This is what Rachel Maddow looks like. | ||
| This is what MSNBC viewers look like, actually, watching the debate. | ||
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It was not. | |
| It's pretty accurate. | ||
| It wasn't pretty, dude. | ||
| I think this is good. | ||
| I think this is the little... | ||
| All you need... | ||
| Donald Trump was already rising up. | ||
| All you needed was just a little lift. | ||
| And then this thing, I think, slides very steadily and glacially out of reach for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's really quickly... | ||
| Producers telling me... | ||
| Let's hop on over to CNN and see what they have to say. | ||
| CNN saying this is bleak performance for Kamala Harris' team. | ||
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At the beginning, the two issues driving the campaign right now are Harris has a big deficit on the economy, Harris has a big deficit on immigration, and Republicans were happy tonight and Democrats a little bit nervous that on those two issues, Vance carried it. | |
| There you go. | ||
| I heard it from CNN and Rachel Maddow. | ||
| Does it look like you're confident? | ||
| Doesn't look like a confident debater here. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, that's been one heck of a night. | ||
| That's been really fun. | ||
| Looks like he just saw a horse. | ||
| Yeah, this is... | ||
| J.D. Vance won big. | ||
| J.D. Vance won this big. | ||
| I think he did a damn fine job, and I think he represented President Trump really, really well here. | ||
| This is the winner for me. | ||
| This is a winner for me. | ||
| I'm not a massive Office fan, but I've seen the episode and this is a pretty funny moment. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| There are numerous times when JD Vance broke the fourth wall and he would just look directly at the camera. | ||
| He kept pulling a Jim Halpert there. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| JD Vance could be president. | ||
| This is what we want in a VP. | ||
| Man, some people are saying it. | ||
| Vance crushed it. | ||
| Let's go, MAGA. | ||
| My cat is happy. | ||
| All right, so there we go. | ||
| Cats for JD Vance. | ||
| Oh, man, he won over the cats. | ||
| That's one heck of a performance. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we want to say thank you for tuning in tonight. | ||
| We had record viewership, and we just love being able to deliver in these historic moments for you, bring you honesty, and hopefully a laugh and a chuckle, do what the corporate media should be doing, which is to shut up. | ||
| And allow the candidates to speak. | ||
| That's what you'll get on this program. | ||
| You'll also get a lot of truth, a lot of memes, and a lot of insightful commentary by people who are wise beyond their years, like the great Danny D 'Urbina. | ||
| Danny, hold on. | ||
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Let's go ahead and make sure that everyone sees your account. | |
| Please send me Danny's account. | ||
| Sorry, my window just glitched. | ||
| Danny, everyone go follow Danny. | ||
| Danny, any parting words, the beautiful audience? | ||
| Yeah, I think this is a tremendous showing by J.D. Dance. | ||
| I think when you look at the way the polls have been shifting over the past few days, we usually see races tighten at this point, and it's actually been widening in Trump's favor. | ||
| So I think this is going to be the extra little bit of motivation that voters are going to need. | ||
| So I know I'm going to show up to early vote with more excitement than I did before after watching this debate. | ||
| And I would only hope that that would be the case for everyone watching the debate, is that they would show it more motivated. | ||
| So I'm very, very heartened and excited by what I saw today. | ||
| Were the tweets really that bad? | ||
| No, no, they were not. | ||
| And you should go and follow Danny. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we have our verse of the day for you. | ||
| And rock and roll. | ||
| Verse of the day from Romans 8. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. | ||
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We are more than conquerors. | |
| There are things that only God can control, and so we're not going to sweat it at all on this election. | ||
| We think that there's the energy on our side, and I've said this before. | ||
| If God was done with America, then I think that Donald Trump would be dead, quite frankly, right now. | ||
| That's how much evil wants to fight this guy. | ||
| So be on the other side of evil. | ||
| If evil wants this guy dead so much, well, then do the opposite of that. | ||
| Put him in charge. | ||
| It's a pretty great case, I think, for President Trump. | ||
| What do I know? | ||
| Either way, we want to say thank you. | ||
| We have a lot of fun at these things. | ||
| Been live for four hours here. | ||
| Let's go rock. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow in the morning for another big roundup and recap here. | ||
| Stay totally based in this, the greatest country on earth. | ||
| It's your boy Benny and Danny. | ||
| See ya. | ||
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