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July 1, 2024 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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🚨BREAKING: BOMBSHELL Supreme Court Ruling Grants Trump IMMUNITY! MASSIVE Trump WIN | DC in PANIC🔥
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benny johnson
With Mike Pence and so on.
What you're saying is that the court's ruling that there's no way you can bring charges against a president if he's just attempting to do the job of the presidency and if he's weighing and balancing certain options, which does seem to be exactly what they're going after Trump for.
Just the questioning, right, of what options he had seems to be what they are hanging their hat on the criminal charges here.
Again, I'm no lawyer.
will chamberlain
Yeah, no, I think you're right about that.
And I mean, you got to understand what this means in terms of the prosecution and given this finding.
So what the court did is essentially what they call reverse and remand.
They said, we're reversing the holding of the D.C. Circuit, which said that presidents have no immunity at all.
And we're remanding for further proceedings at the district court level.
And the district court, before the prosecution or the trial begins, will have to have an evidentiary hearing to discuss whether or not the conduct alleged in the indictment are official acts.
And then, if they are found to be official acts, whether or not they are entitled to presumptive immunity, right?
The presumptive immunity that the court outlines.
So that's a two-step process, right?
First, is it official?
Second, if official, is it entitled to presumptive immunity?
And that's before the trial.
And then when that happens, Donald Trump can then appeal those two questions.
Is it official?
Is it entitled to presumptive immunity?
So that's why I say, you know, we've got, you know, I saw Oren Kerr say years of litigation before you conceivably get to trial.
unidentified
Wow.
will chamberlain
On anything alleged in the indictment, because you're talking about the district court's going to have to have a hearing with all the briefing entitled, make a finding.
That finding is immediately appealable before trial, because we're still in the phase of immunity, right?
If you can't have pretrial immunity hearings, then there is no immunity, effectively.
It defeats immunity.
The idea is you shouldn't even have to sit for a trial if you prevail and have immunity.
So, yeah, I mean, it's a big W for Donald Trump.
It didn't go quite as far as he wanted.
His lawyers presented the position that he should be absolutely immune for all official acts unless he's impeached and convicted for them.
The Supreme Court said, no, it's only presumptive immunity for the broader category of official acts.
And there are circumstances in which you could be prosecuted for those official acts.
But you still have to go through this whole analysis of whether or not prosecuting a former president would intrude on the functions of the executive branch.
benny johnson
So what you're saying is they've just created, they didn't give Trump 100% victory.
A 95% victory means that you've created so many gates and such a steep incline to try and make this case.
You've presented effectively a 90 degree incline that you must roll the stone up to try and create a case against a president.
will chamberlain
That's a really good way of thinking about it, right?
You created a huge set of, a huge obstacle course that a prosecutor has to surmount.
In order to bring a case against a former president for their official acts.
And odds are that you won't.
benny johnson
Really important question, Will, here, given the greater overall landscape that seems to be delivering W after W to Donald Trump.
What happens if a current president is being prosecuted in an immunity case?
Donald Trump is victorious.
And what happens then, right, to this case?
Where does it go?
will chamberlain
If Donald Trump prevails, at a minimum, all the prosecutions against him will be stayed.
They'll be stopped.
Because there's an OLC opinion that says the Department of Justice cannot prosecute a sitting president.
And that's just a basic understanding of the fact that the Department of Justice reports to the president, so they can't prosecute their superior.
That's not how our government functions.
So if President Trump wins the election, tack on to every other delay the fact that as long as he's president, DOJ can't do a thing to him.
And I think there's a reasonable chance that...
A DOJ under President Trump would simply announce that the prosecutions are shelved and there may be a way to just simply bury them outright and not allow them to continue.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, we've heard speculation about that.
What about going back into the legal theory here?
Has any president, is there any basis to say, yeah, a president can contest an election?
Like, yeah, this happened here.
will chamberlain
So the president, for example, one of the things I didn't get a chance to read the full opinion, right?
I'm kind of reading the syllabus and extrapolating, but I did notice a section that dealt with, you know, a president is allowed to work with his attorney general to discuss prosecutions for election fraud, right?
And that's within his power.
That's an official act.
He can't be prosecuted.
And another thing that they said is you're not allowed to look at the president's motive when you do this analysis.
So you're not allowed to say, well, he had improper motives.
He was doing it for his own personal political reasons.
Doesn't matter.
The question is, that's totally irrelevant.
The question is whether or not, for the question of immunity, it's whether or not the power being exercised or the thing he was doing was itself an official act, was part of his job.
And if so, yes, then there's going to be, at a minimum, presumptive immunity.
So I don't think that really there's going to be, at the end of...
If, for example, let's say, you know, God forbid, President Trump loses the election in November and this prosecution continues over the next three, four years, I think even at the end of all that, when you've sorted out all the immunity issues, there will be almost nothing left of this indictment.
Wow.
That's my guess.
benny johnson
So completely atomized, completely eviscerated.
will chamberlain
Yeah, I think, I mean, just from, again, from my quick skim of the kind of things that they're saying would be official acts and the kind of tests they're applying and how the court is thinking about it, it suggests to me that You know, the Jack Smith prosecution is basically dead in the water.
unidentified
Wow.
benny johnson
Wow.
Okay.
Well, thank you for coming on and stating with such clarity what's truly happening here.
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Will, everyone go over their followers.
333,000 followers?
Come on!
Come on, baby.
On to a million.
Will Chamberlain, Godspeed, sir.
will chamberlain
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you Donald Trump has weighed in.
Donald Trump and his son have weighed in.
Let's go, ladies and gentlemen, to Truth Social.
Donald Trump's initial reaction here.
Exactly what we said off the top of the show.
A massive win for Donald Trump.
Our last guest, Will Chamberlain, just said it's a 95% win for Trump and that there is zero chance of this coming to trial, that this has effectively atomized, this is his words, atomized the Jack Smith prosecution.
Donald Trump speaking for the first time.
He's been quite quiet, actually, over the weekend.
Big win for our Constitution and democracy.
I am proud to be an American, says Donald Trump.
Donald Trump Jr. hopping in.
Ladies and gentlemen, getting ready, throwing punches.
Solid SCOTUS ruling.
Today, I'm sure the corrupt prosecutors in D.C. and judges will work overtime to continue their lawfare.
It's all they have left.
Ooh, baby.
Baby.
We are rolling this morning.
Everybody declaring absolute and total victory here.
However, what about federal prosecutors, right?
What about guys who made their bones?
And cut their teeth bringing federal prosecutions.
What do they have to say about this?
Well, our dear friend and former federal prosecutor, Brett Tolman, now executive director of Right on Crime, an incredible mind on these issues, joins the program now.
unidentified
you.
benny johnson
you you you Brett, thank you so much for being on the program.
What a day.
Given your extensive experience and decades of prosecution for the federal government, do you think the Supreme Court got it right here in the 6-3 decision?
unidentified
Yeah, I would say the Supreme Court got it right.
And it's a little heartbreaking to see three justices of the Supreme Court not joining this because...
The law is so established and the analysis that was used by the majority in this case is bulletproof.
It's sound and it was reasonable.
And what I mean by that, Benny, is it did not just simply grant immunity to Donald Trump.
And it can't do that.
That's not what the court does.
The court is a court of final review and not one of first review.
So what the court is in essence saying Here's your immunity.
It's broad on constitutional authority, and it is presumed on any official acts.
That's such well-established law, Benny, that it's incredible, a win for the country.
I think Donald Trump is right.
It does root us back in the Constitution.
But how scary that three justices weren't able to reach that conclusion.
benny johnson
And it tells you they're still I apologize for putting you on the spot because I know this ruling came out 15, maybe 20 minutes ago.
But have you read the dissent?
Do you know what on earth...
I assume this is the far left wing of Jackson Sotomayor and Kagan.
Am I correct there?
unidentified
Yes, it is.
benny johnson
What could they possibly...
Is the reasoning that...
So did they start off their dissent by saying that Barack Obama should be put in Guantanamo Bay for murdering an American teenager with a drone?
Is that how the dissent started?
unidentified
Well, in essence, it is the unbelievable position, especially coming from the left, that they want to rein in presidential immunity.
They've never taken that position, ever.
In fact...
They've taken the opposite position.
But in the dissent here, what they're in essence trying to argue is that the unofficial and unofficial acts where the majority draws a very big line, they want to engage in broadening what unofficial acts are.
And so they want to strip immunity and broaden unofficial acts.
So that the president, for example, the Supreme Court said in the majority, him talking to the Department of Justice, which is a major part of Jack Smith's allegations that he was conspiring to pull down the election, him talking to the Department of Justice is absolute immunity because it falls directly within his constitutional powers.
To have the conversation with his own branch, with his own branch.
And he's the head of the executive, right?
So the dissent doesn't want to recognize that.
And they don't want to recognize the breadth of it.
And I think that's dangerous.
It should apply as equal to a Democrat president as it does a Republican president.
And right now, a lot of people are going to say on the left, Benny, they're going to say it's not as big a win as you think because...
The federal prosecutors can go back and now they have some guidance and now they'll be able to argue with a friendly judge which facts are unofficial and which are official.
But that's not entirely true.
The majority opinion indicated one thing that I don't think a lot of people are going to talk about.
They said that they cannot introduce the president's motive.
Behind what he may have said or done.
They can't introduce evidence of motive.
And that is fascinating to me because what they're saying is you cannot have facts and then introduce evidence of what you think the president's motive was and then claim that those are unofficial acts.
You have to actually have unofficial acts on their face.
So if he went out in the street, And he got a gun and he shot somebody that is obviously an unofficial act.
We don't have those facts here.
We have a president that has conversations that have been distorted.
We have a president whose communications with the vice president, the Department of Justice, with his own citizens.
Those have all been manipulated and distorted by Jack Smith.
And so that distortion is OK when you have a judge and a jury.
But the Supreme Court is saying, Well, hold on.
You have to actually analyze this according to our constitutional principles because it's so important that we not allow for routine prosecution of the president for acts that are official or constitutional.
benny johnson
This is so fascinating, Brett.
Forgive me for just coming at this from a layman's, community college graduate's perspective, but isn't this Minority Report?
Isn't this like, oh, we've seen what you wanted to do in your soul, right?
We've looked into your soul, and we've divined through our magical powers what Donald Trump was thinking.
Is that what they're arguing here?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a great point.
What Jack Smith is attempting to do is to put his own interpretation of what Donald Trump did and put it into an indictment.
Make it read like something conspiratorial.
Make the public and your friendly judge and then potentially your jurors, make them actually read it in a way that Implies guilt without ever having to do the analysis that the Supreme Court says should have been done.
And that is to carefully analyze whether or not something the president did while in office was unofficial or even whether it was directly under his constitutional authority.
And if that's the case, immunity is absolute.
If it's unofficial acts, it is presumed.
And that is a heavy burden that the government has to overcome, but they were never required to overcome that.
The judge just took and accepted, never required an analysis of whether or not it was an official or unofficial act.
benny johnson
So what percentage of a win is this for President Trump?
And how steep is now the incline that the Supreme Court, how harsh is the obstacle course that the Supreme Court has now set as a threshold for prosecuting or proving that something is an unofficial act?
Again, it seems like magical powers will be required to try and make these, to try and set up this fact pattern.
unidentified
I think an honest district court judge, a thoughtful district court judge, after reading this opinion, is going to have to have a very intense And thorough hearing where facts and evidence are presented to overcome the presumption of immunity.
So the government has almost an entire new case they have to present.
But Benny, I would say certainly it's not a hundred percent victory for Donald Trump, but I don't think realistically he or any of his team would have wanted Or they may have wanted, but I don't think they would have expected a 100% win, meaning the Supreme Court says, "We grant immunity, dismiss all the charges against him for any of his conduct." That was never going to happen.
But it is a 90% or 95% victory because, especially, and I rate it that high, because let's look at one of the facts where the Supreme Court gave an opening to Jack Smith.
He said when Donald Trump had the conversation, the court said when he had the conversation with Vice President Pence, and he's telling him to reject the electors.
That wasn't clearly under his constitutional authority, so it's not absolute immunity, but it might be official, but there are some aspects that may make it unofficial, and the court needs to determine that.
And I say, if you understand that opening, but then look at what happened in the Fisher case, the evidence of his conversation to Vice President Pence was the direct evidence on the obstruction of an official proceeding.
So when you read it in the context of their most recent decision in Fisher, where they absolutely gut the use of the obstruction angle that Jack Smith attempted to do, then you say, okay, even if it's an unofficial act and he doesn't have immunity and that evidence can be admitted against him, it goes to the obstruction case.
And the Supreme Court already said, that's a case you cannot bring Jack Smith.
So in that regard, that's why I rate it as high as I do, because both of those decisions when read together is an absolute...
benny johnson
That is such an interesting point.
And because Fisher happened on Friday, we weren't able to properly digest everything for the show.
We had a show built out around the debate and not around Fisher.
And so can you please give us just a 35,000-foot perspective of how these two joined together?
To make this prosecution damn near impossible now?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
The 1512 angle, that's the statute that Jack Smith attempts to use.
Two out of the four charges against Donald Trump are steeped in Section 1512.
What that is, is a very simple statute that said, if you destroy documents, or you forge documents, or you otherwise do something with...
Documents in order to manipulate or to obstruct an official proceeding, then that is a potential crime and a potential felony that could be brought.
But the Supreme Court said it's limited to those documents.
It comes from the Enron case when individuals started burning and shredding all kinds of documentary evidence.
So Congress said, if you do that kind of stuff, and it's in response to an official proceeding, then that can be an additional crime.
The Supreme Court said that does not apply outside of the illegal use or the unlawful use or destruction or manipulation of documents.
So the Supreme Court basically gutted the...
The most important charges in the four-count indictment that Jack Smith brought against the president.
Now, when you overlay what they just ruled on immunity, you have to start to feel like the room is just closing in on Jack Smith.
And it should, because everyone on the left will scream.
They're not rooted in the law.
They're not rooted in their constitutional separation powers or constitutional protections.
And those two decisions will go down in history as quite phenomenal and important going forward to slap any president, Republican or Democrat, that unleashes multiple attempts to prosecute their political opponent.
So I see those two as a phenomenal...
Bookends of preserving our Constitution in a way that we were dangerously close to losing.
benny johnson
That seems like such a remarkable generational win for the next 100 years of the American Republic, if we can keep it.
What an optimistic outlook.
Final question for you, really quickly here, because it does seem, if we're talking optimism here, Brett, it does seem that a lot of things are going right.
Right now.
And if you were to believe the betting markets, the smart money is on Donald Trump winning and winning quite decisively on election night in 2024.
Now, not to get ahead of ourselves, but hypothetically, what happens to these charges when Donald Trump becomes president again?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a great question, Benny.
And I've been thinking about this because I don't know if they will fizzle and they'll fall apart in sort of that.
That transition from if Donald Trump wins, what does the Department of Justice do?
I mean, remember, it is driven by bureaucrats.
The administrative state is probably the most significant in the Department of Justice of any organization.
So if there's a case to be presented, I think they'll continue.
They may be...
Trying to get the judges that are ruling on these, try to get them to identify unofficial acts that's evidence they can use and they might continue to pursue them.
But day one, day one, if Trump wins in 2025, that first day, the new incoming attorney general or the acting attorney general that is appointed by the president will dismiss those cases.
There's no question in my mind.
I would like to see that happen.
I would like to see that dismissal happen instead of Donald Trump having to grapple with the decision on issuing clemency to himself.
I think that would be uncomfortable.
I don't think he would really like to do that.
I think he'd like to see it just go away.
And if DOJ were authentic right now, if they were very You know, thoughtful in their analysis after these two rulings, there would be a dismissal of the case in D.C. Jack Smith would file a document, and in that document it would say, in the interest of justice, the United States moves to dismiss the indictments against Donald Trump.
That would be the only document that should be filed at this point after the rulings by the Supreme Court.
benny johnson
Incredible.
Just a very quick follow-up there.
You believe that day, the 2025, inauguration, January 20, 2025, that that first act, these are gone.
unidentified
These two.
Yep.
The two federal cases should be dismissed.
You know, I don't know what's going to...
Florida is very interesting because it's certainly...
There is certainly enough conduct that they've alleged outside of when he was president.
But there are acts that occurred.
While he was president, relative to the classified documents, that do seem to suggest that they may have to grapple with immunity some portion of it, at least in that case as well.
But yes, both cases, day one, should be dismissed immediately.
And then, you know, he can't pardon himself for a state crime conviction, but certainly he would have time to, you know, pursue the appeals, let the Supreme Court analyze the...
Heaping pile of trash that was Alvin Bragg's case.
And then, you know, Fannie Willis' case should fall apart.
You know, it's more akin when you're a kid and you tried to find Legos to build something, but they didn't quite fit.
Let it fall apart because they don't fit and it doesn't function.
benny johnson
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And you can see the results of that today.
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And Brett, thank you so much.
Running with the Stampede!
I love that.
I love that X header right there.
You have the wind at your back, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you, Benny, for everything you do and the voice you are right now.
Very important.
benny johnson
Godspeed, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you The stampede, ladies and gentlemen.
The chariots are rolling.
The horses are running.
The cavalry is here.
There's been a man who, for decades, actually, has been at the lead of that cavalry long before it was actually popular to do so.
A man who actually, ironically, and I say this as a term of endearment, was slapped down on a presidential immunity case against Bill Clinton in a very creepy sock drawer.
Challenge about Bill Clinton's files that he kept inside of a filthy sock drawer that if you, you know, hit it with an ultraviolet light, man, you'd go blind.
So what do we have here?
We have the great Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch with the blinding truth on the program live now.
you you Tom, I can't help myself with the sock drawer stuff.
I can't.
As soon as I read about all that, and I didn't know about it until a couple of years ago, I can't help myself.
You're the only guy that has the cojones to go after Bill Clinton's sock drawer.
And you lost on immunity.
tom fitton
Even worse, what else was in the sock drawer?
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Asking the tough questions.
Tom, I'm correct that you lost that on an immunity grounds.
tom fitton
Yeah, kind of an immunity ground.
You know, the court said, what are we going to do?
Raid the former president's home for records?
benny johnson
Yes.
tom fitton
That's what the court said in defending Bill.
And, of course, the Justice Department agreed at the time and didn't want us to get the records either.
So, of course, things went 180, right, when Trump came in and they ignored their own prior practice, that key precedent, and raided Trump's home.
We blew the whistle on it, and, you know, we haven't stopped yelling about it ever since.
We lost using the Justice Department's arguments that they're now trying to jail Trump on, which also may suffer a significant setback based on today's ruling.
Because did the President Trump make those decisions to take those documents as president?
Wasn't that an official act?
The delineation of his presidential records?
Methinks yes.
benny johnson
Of course.
So let's jump into that.
I mean, this must be...
You got a judicial watch.
I don't see any pop champagne bottles or confetti yet, but what an incredible vindication over the last couple of releases from the Supreme Court.
Today, you must be whistling Dixie.
tom fitton
You know, it's kind of a vindication not of Trump, but of really the Constitution.
benny johnson
Yes.
tom fitton
If the president has immunity while he's in office, How could he not have immunity the day after he leaves office for official acts?
And who's going to prosecute him even if he didn't have immunity?
The next president?
Why would that immunity only begin or why would that immunity even happen during his presidency?
You know, they say he has immunity while he's in office.
Well, why?
And the Supreme Court said, why?
And said it doesn't end after he leaves office because to let it end after he leaves office essentially guts the whole idea.
And so the deep state can't engage against a sitting president or wait until he leaves office to retaliate against him, which is what's happened with Trump.
Now, is it going to stop everything that's happening against Trump?
Probably not.
They're fanatics going after Trump.
This is why...
They've lost at the Supreme Court not once but twice on key issues.
Three issues, actually, now when you consider the crazy effort to keep him off the ballot.
So they're going to go back before Judge Chutkin and try to argue down in Miami before Judge Cannon.
Oh, well, these weren't really official acts that he did.
And, you know, the court said we could look at his tweets.
And we can't imagine why a president of the United States would have any interest in a federal election.
Being run well, and the accurate results being vindicated by Congress through the elector system set up under the Constitution, that can't be official.
So they're going to try to run those silly arguments.
I'm sure Judge Shepson's going to buy some of them, and it will be back up before the court before you know it.
So they'll continue to harass him, but it's a major victory.
When these people came in and said it wasn't, you could be prosecuted as a president.
Over your discussions with your vice president?
Over your discussions as to who to pick as attorney general?
It's insanity.
Why is anyone surprised the Supreme Court ruled this way?
benny johnson
What do you say to the three justices on the far left wing of the Supreme Court that seemingly attempted or wished to gut all presidential immunity today?
I hear that that decision is...
tom fitton
I'm wiping away my tears.
benny johnson
I hear that dissent is unhinged and that they're effectively arguing that Barack Obama should go to Gitmo for nuking an American teenager with a drone.
tom fitton
But, of course, they know that's never going to be the case.
This was an anti-Trump decision.
They don't want to uniformly apply it, it's clear, because the logic of it is, as you say, Benny, Biden can be prosecuted for All of his acts related to the border.
Obama can be prosecuted for his sedition against Trump and his spying on Trump.
And they don't believe that, obviously.
But they're pretending Trump is the worst, so they're willing to blow up our constitutional structure of government to get Trump.
And that's what this is about.
The left always says, you remember up in New York, the governor said after that crazy half-billion-dollar Yes.
judge, she reassured businesses, oh, no, this is only about Trump.
benny johnson
Yes.
tom fitton
And so that's how you have to read this decision.
How dare you give Trump a get out of jail free card because, you know, we don't think he deserves it.
Other presidents might, but not him.
benny johnson
Something that is really important that you brought up that we haven't discussed yet.
Or really investigated is the application to the documents case.
And since you brought it up, I'd love to have you expand on that.
How does this apply to the raid on Donald Trump and to the documents case that is ongoing in Florida?
Seemingly not going well, according to every report that we've got.
But nonetheless, the government pushes forward.
How does this apply to Donald Trump and his handling of his own documents post-presidency?
tom fitton
His decision to keep records as presidential versus personal or quintessential official acts.
And they were done when he was president.
That's what was alleged seemingly in the indictment, if I recall correctly.
So I don't know how that withstand scrutiny under this new decision.
But I'm sure there'll be lots of arguments about it.
And of course, the Fannie Willis case, to the degree it's on life support, is, you know, they're...
They're turning off the...
They're withdrawing the feeding tubes now.
benny johnson
So, yeah, we see a state of complete collapse.
The proposition that has been floated now twice is that day one of a Donald Trump administration, that these...
Charges either get shelved because you can't prosecute a sitting president, so constitutionally they just go away, or that an attorney general dismisses them outright.
Your speculation on what happens day one of a new Trump term as president.
tom fitton
Well, I hope whoever is the acting AG at the time immediately dismisses any pending cases.
And if I were President Trump, I would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate this whole targeting of him and other innocent Americans in retaliation for the exercise of his First Amendment and the First Amendment rights of other Americans.
And this special prosecutor should not be part of the Justice Department.
It should be separate and apart.
I'd run it out of Florida if I were him.
We're based in Florida.
That's where Trump lived, and that's where he was victimized.
And investigate the investigators.
Investigate the Justice Department's abuse of power here.
Investigate their collusion with Fannie Willis.
Investigate Letitia James.
All these folks abused their powers, in my view, to deprive Trump of his civil rights under the color of law.
And in the least, there needs to be an investigation there.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, the great Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, somebody who I know has the president's ear, somebody who I think Donald Trump just gave an address to your group at Mar-a-Lago over the weekend, and hopefully he listens to your advice on this issue, because I'd love to see that happen.
Tom Fitton, everybody go ahead and follow Tom.
Obviously, millions and millions of Americans can't.
Don't be wrong.
Patriot and a man who scares the left probably more than anyone in Washington, D.C., currently in Washington, D.C. right now.
Tom, thank you.
tom fitton
Thank you, buddy.
Appreciate it.
benny johnson
Godspeed.
unidentified
Godspeed.
you you We ain't done yet, baby.
We ain't done yet.
benny johnson
And by the way, your screen, if you did see, this is just what happens when you're live.
Of course, we are always.
We're live on these important issues, and we're live within five minutes of this decision being handed down.
We take that as a point of pride for this show.
Tom's screen did freeze there.
There was nothing wrong with your phone.
Sometimes that happens.
His audio, though, my producers are telling me that his audio sounded good, so you could at least hear Tom, but his shot did freeze.
Nonetheless, Tom Fitton, just an incredible slate of legal experts.
So Donald Trump is now speaking to Fox News.
We wanted to jump to Trump in an official statement directly to Fox News.
He had a one-line statement on Truth Social saying that this is a massive win for democracy and America.
Here's Donald Trump's more thought-through and robust and muscular statement to Fox seconds ago.
dana perino
Take on the other side.
Former President Trump said, All right.
benny johnson
Well, ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump sounding off again, a breaking news environment.
A quick recap of what we've discovered on our show here with three legal experts, and we will be joined shortly by a surrogate for Donald Trump on all of this.
Surrogate who was at the debates, a surrogate who is...
As energetic as they come, the great Wesley Hunt congressman from Texas.
Ladies and gentlemen, so the update is that if you were to consolidate the three legal experts that we've had, Brett Tolman, Tom Fitton, and Will Chamberlain on the show so far, they've said that this is a demonstrable win for Donald Trump.
That Donald Trump has gotten 95% of what he asked for here.
That the threshold for the government To now roll, consider this prosecution a boulder.
And what is the path towards the top of the mountain?
The top towards the top of the mountain has just been steepened to 90 degrees by the Supreme Court with various other boulders to come crashing down on you as you try to roll the stone.
The best metaphor that we can give you.
The Supreme Court has now put an obstacle course.
That seemingly, according to experts, is insurmountable to get a court to agree with the idea, Joe Biden, the idea, the idea, the idea that speaking to your vice president or speaking to your Department of Justice is somehow not an official act and a president can be criminally prosecuted for speaking to his vice president?
For being in front of the White House with a presidential seal?
And saying march peacefully and patriotically?
No.
No, ladies and gentlemen.
This is what has happened at the Supreme Court.
Of course, the three lunatic Marxists on the left decided not to join with the majority here in an insane ruling that should tell you everything about why we need to vote for Donald Trump in November.
Because what happens if the Supreme Court gets staffed further?
With sociopaths like Kagan and Jackson and Sotomayor.
Sotomayor, like, seemingly can't even breathe unaided.
Like, she is so unbelievably stupid.
Such an unbelievably low IQ and dumb individual.
Sotomayor, like, if you listen to these questions, and we've done a couple of shows where we listen to the questions that the Supreme Court asks, like, what?
Like, what is with this lady?
Like, she is a truly, actually...
Dumb.
Like, truly smooth-brained.
Anyway, if you don't want justices like that, if you want actual wise justices, then please, please know that you must vote for Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump's justices delivering in decisions like this.
Obviously disappointing in other decisions, but that is the way of life, okay?
You're never going to get 100% of what you want.
Jonathan Turley, one of our favorite legal experts, sounding off on Fox News on this issue.
Stating definitively what a victory for Donald Trump this is.
unidentified
In reading through this opinion, I can't see how this doesn't induce cardiac arrest with the special counsel.
You know, at one point in the opinion, they say, look, this is a quote, the indictments allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the vice president to take particular acts in connection with his role with the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct.
And Trump is at least presumptively immune.
From prosecution for such conduct.
The court then goes on to say that the burden, of course, is on Jack Smith.
He has to show that this does not pose any intrusions into the executive branch.
And the court says that this, quote, may well hinder the president's ability to perform his constitutional functions.
Here the court is imposing a very significant burden on Jack Smith.
When this goes back to the judge, we talked about how this trial judge has proven to be very favorable towards Jack Smith.
She's certainly been motivated to try to get a trial before the election.
But the court here is giving much more clear lines than some people expected.
They're saying that there is a presumption here that you have to deal with, the burden is high, and the court indicates that it may view this as something that could hinder a president's authority.
Trey, the Biden campaign clearly is indicating that they think this is a loss, at least in the way they wrote that statement that Dana read.
I want to just read for one second about the dissent from Justice Sotomayor, who writes the dissent with Kagan and Jackson.
Today's decision to grant former presidents criminal immunity reshapes the institution of the presidency.
It makes a mockery of the principle, foundational to our constitution and system of government, that no man is above the law.
Whatever happens, as you read through this decision, it does expand the power of the executive.
It is pretty consequential if we look at it big picture, Trey.
trey gowdy
Well, I always think it was consequential.
I mean, who else has plenary pardon power?
Who else can order the killing of an American citizen overseas?
It's always been the president.
So presidents have always enjoyed powers that the rest of us do not.
I read that dissent as just, they must not have read the majority opinion, because the majority opinion is pretty simple.
Unofficial acts have no immunity at all.
Official acts, there is immunity.
We're going to presume that it was official.
benny johnson
So, interesting cutoff point there for the clip, but it is what it is.
We are live, ladies and gentlemen, and we are rolling.
We are going to be joined by Wesley Hunt in just one moment.
We do have official statements from one of our favorite commentators, who is...
Right in front of the Supreme Court, Mike Davis.
Guys, have we efforted Mike?
Let's just see.
Let's just do our best to get Mike either on the phone or on camera.
Again, Mike is in front of the Supreme Court.
I want to put up Mike's statement on this.
You all know Mike Davis.
We have been rolling with Mike for years on this program.
My statement on the Supreme Court presidential immunity decision.
The great Mike Davis potentially joining us on the show.
Our producers are efforting live right now.
We've had Will Chamberlain of the Article 3 Project, Mike's group, on.
The Supreme Court of the United States followed a 40-year-old precedent and correctly ruled that the president of the United States, any president, is immune from criminal prosecution for his official, not personal, acts.
Federal judges and members of Congress are immune from criminal prosecution for their official acts.
the Supreme Court today made clear, and so is the president.
This is a critical decision to protect the separation of powers of the presidency and therefore our country.
We would not be here today but for the fact that President Biden politicized and weaponized his Justice Department to destroy his political enemy.
The Supreme Court rebuked Biden's republic-ending tactics.
No longer does President Obama have to fear imprisonment for his strong strikes of two American citizens, nor does Biden for his illegal release of violent criminal Although maybe he should.
The Supreme Court...
Is our line of defense against tyranny, including Biden's unprecedented lawfare and election interference against Trump.
Supreme Court has delivered one of the most monumental decisions in its history.
That, linked with the Fisher decision, is such an important moment, as was talked about by Brett Tolman.
So now, between those two decisions, the Fisher decision on Friday and this decision today on presidential immunity, you have atomized Jack Smith.
Jonathan Turley, they're saying that there's cardiac arrest going on in the special counsel's office.
They're over, and now they're watching a presidential election that is spiraling into Donald Trump's lap, looking more and more like a hundred-point electoral victory romp on election night, decided at 9 p.m.
This is going to be a wild next couple of months, ladies and gentlemen.
Here we go.
Mike Davis talking in front of the Supreme Court.
This is on Real America's Voice, ladies and gentlemen.
But Mike saying effectively this, and we love hearing Mike's voice in these moments.
Here we go.
mike davis
Three liberal justices put their partisan politics and their Trump derangement above their most important job, which is to follow the Constitution.
And part of following the Constitution is protecting the presidency and therefore our country.
Do these liberal justices think that the Trump 47 Justice Department should prosecute President Obama for his extrajudicial drone strike on two American citizens?
Do these three liberal justices think that the Trump 47 Justice Department Should prosecute President Biden for the migrant crime that he caused with his illegal mass parole of over 10 million illegal immigrants?
Do these three liberal justices think?
Well, they probably do.
They think that the Trump 47 Justice Department should prosecute President George W. Bush for lying about weapons of mass destruction and the hundreds of thousands of deaths.
These three liberal justices are a disgrace for ruling the way that they did.
They are just purely partisan.
steve bannon
Hang on, Mike.
Stay right there because I'm going to come back about absolute versus limited immunity.
unidentified
Stay right there.
steve bannon
We have Senator Rand Paul joins us now.
Senator Paul, before I get to Tony Fauci, I got a free liberal justice.
benny johnson
Whoops.
Ladies and gentlemen, okay, again, we are live.
It is an important day.
There's so much happening.
Steve Bannon is reporting to prison today as a political prisoner.
We have some...
Remarkable footage from that, and we'll cover that in just a moment.
Again, we wish to speak with the great Wesley Hunt, a member of Congress from Texas, in just a moment about the Supreme Court decision, as Wesley Hunt is a spokesperson for Donald Trump, and we will ask about Steve Bannon, who is, again, reporting to prison this morning.
Judge Jeanine on this decision, I think an important voice in all of this.
Judge Jeanine on Fox News talking about what this means for Donald Trump.
dana perino
Janine Pirro, she's here with us as well in studio and great to have you as well.
I love watching lawyers take notes.
I used to watch Andy do it during impeachment.
I'm always like, what are they writing down that I need to know?
judge jeanine pirro
You know, first of all, Dana, what is so important about this is there is nothing about immunity in the Constitution or in federal statutes.
So we've had to rely for a couple of centuries on how the courts interpret this.
So this is, in a sense, as Gorsuch said, a decision for the ages.
But obviously the immediate impact of this is clearly to slow down Jack Smith, not that that was their intent, but the effect is that.
And the idea that prosecutors who may have another agenda want to go and indict a president or an ex-president for actions while he was president.
This this court is basically saying there is presumptive immunity.
They, of course, mentioned absolute immunity.
And so it will go back to the district court as to whether or not the official act, what it is specifically, and it will slow the whole thing down.
But I think Alina Haber is right.
I think that there are a lot of issues even before we get to that.
And also, if you recognize the Supreme Court decision, it downgraded some of the obstruction charges regarding the rioters.
So I think that impacts some of the charges against the president as well.
So that's been watered down in this indictment against the president.
So I think Jack Smith has been hurt by this.
But more important is the fact that there is a confirmation that there is absolute immunity as well.
There should be when there is an official act of the president.
benny johnson
So, again, what we are hearing across the spectrum of.
Really smart people, smarter than us, right?
Who study this stuff and who do this every single day is that this is an absolute and total win for Donald Trump.
But this charge that Jack Smith has in Washington, D.C. might as well have been completely and totally atomized and eviscerated today.
Brett Tolman going as far as to say that the Department of Justice should just drop these charges.
Now, the Department of Justice should just say, you know what?
In the interest of justice, we are now dismissal.
We are pushing for dismissal of this.
Oh, baby!
That would be a 24-7, wall-to-wall, daylight special, and we would love to cover it.
What will happen?
When Donald Trump wins an election victory, how does Donald Trump get to an election victory in November?
Joining us now, a strong surrogate for the Trump team, somebody who has been banging the drum, let's just say, across the country, on stage with Donald Trump, speaking with Donald Trump, traveling with Donald Trump, and who is a very strong surrogate for the president, The great Wesley Hunt, congressman from Texas, joins the show live now.
unidentified
The great Wesley Hunt, congressman from Texas, joins the show live now.
benny johnson
Okay, so I don't see any champagne bottles that have been emptied.
I see no confetti yet in your shot, Wesley.
I'm not saying that you're allowed to pop champagne during this interview.
wesley hunt
Already did, Benny.
benny johnson
Already did, okay.
All right, great.
We love it when the interviewer is already...
wesley hunt
It's everywhere.
benny johnson
We love it when the guest is already lubed up and ready to go and loose and ready to rock.
And so you've got to be loose this morning.
I mean, you've got to be...
Celebrating, because this just seems to be another absolute W for the president.
wesley hunt
Oh, absolutely.
This cripples Jack Smith argument.
Today is a very great day for President Trump.
It's a very great day for our cause.
And look, you know...
The courts ruled in favor of the country.
They ruled in favor of America.
This is really a no-brainer.
I mean, of course presidents have immunity.
They've had immunity in the past.
And now what they've done is they've codified it for the future, regardless of who's president.
And what I would have thought, if this would have gone a different way, I would have thought that, you know, Barack Obama and George Bush and the rest of them would have been, and Bill Clinton of all people, would have been freaking out.
I mean, could you imagine being a former president and then the country gets to go?
And the DOJ and the country gets to go after you for past decisions that you made while you were the current president.
The only reason why this is happening is because President Trump came back and he ran for president again, and they didn't see this coming.
And what they tried to do was throw him in jail, throw all of these erroneous charges against him, and then now today was a victory for America.
And then I also want people to know this.
This is why you always have to keep faith in this country.
We will get it right.
It may be tough.
It may be rough.
We may have to have a lot of conversations here, maybe some rough conversations.
But at the end of the day, the Supreme Court got it right.
And I thank God that President Trump appointed those three conservative judges in 2016 through 2020 during his presidency to ensure this victory.
Again, this is a great day for us.
On to November.
And now President Trump gets to get back on.
benny johnson
This is really important for you because you're a member of Congress and presumably you'll be a member of Congress for as long as you wish.
A very popular member of Congress.
But this covers immunity for your official acts as well, right?
Presumably, if the president doesn't have immunity for official acts, as the three left-wing judges tried to argue, then you wouldn't have any immunity and somebody could just sue you for anything, right?
Any Palestinian protester.
Could sue you for walking down the hallway and crossing their path.
wesley hunt
That's absolutely correct.
And we have to be able to make decisions and operate in the best interests of this country.
That's what we were elected to do, Benny.
And by the way, we're not trying to skirt justice.
We're not trying to obfuscate the law.
We are trying to do the right thing by the American people.
And the idea that you would put us in this position and then take that right away from us is absolutely absurd.
It's actually what separates us from every other country in the world.
We are a constitutional republic.
and that constitutional republic must be preserved.
This doesn't happen in other countries.
Other countries have dictators.
Other countries go after their political opponents before and after they're even running against them.
We have got to preserve that.
We've got to protect that in this country, and the Supreme Court got it right, Benny.
benny johnson
So So, speaking of getting it right, I know that you were with the president in Atlanta.
I know that you have been a surrogate for the president on the trail.
Again, I guess I hearken back to the, are you sick of winning?
You're going to get so sick of winning.
You're going to get so sick of winning, but it does seem like there have been some huge W's over the last couple of days.
Tell me about Atlanta.
What was it like there?
What was it like in the green room?
What was it like spinning on behalf of Donald Trump?
And, of course, your takeaway from the debate since you were there.
wesley hunt
You know, this is, back to your point, this has been one hell of a week for President Trump and one hell of a week for our movement.
This lawfare against President Trump is falling apart.
Joe Biden's debate performance was a complete and utter abomination.
The Chevron decision that came down this week, now this decision.
What a week for President Trump.
But I was in Atlanta at a watch party.
I actually was not in the green room, but I was there.
We were all watching what Imagine Joe Biden doing a Fox-run debate.
In the heart of Texas, in the heart of a red state, in the heart of a red city, and walking into the lion's den and performing this way.
No one would ever expect President Trump to do as well as he did under those circumstances, and he absolutely knocked it out the park.
And now there is a...
Clear contrast between who the president should be here in November.
And unfortunately, they only have four more months left.
It's going to be very hard to replace this guy.
And we all saw that President Trump is going to do very, very well in November.
I saw some polling after the debate, and I mean, the shift is unbelievable.
We have never seen an incumbent president polling this bad and worse than President Trump in modern history.
Again, man, I am so...
I'm so ecstatic.
I'm so proud of what we're going to do in the next few months to drive this thing home.
And the world saw who's running our country, and we know it cannot be that guy.
benny johnson
So if you were at a watch part, I just want to, because this was such a remarkable moment, these are moments you just...
You never get again.
I know you're a military man.
I know you're an athlete.
I liken this to missing the field goal at the end of the game in the Super Bowl.
You have a 30-yard field goal and you just shank it.
100 million people are watching and you'll never get that back.
You'll live with that forever if you're that kicker.
If you're striking out of the bottom, this is Joe Biden's moment.
I wanted to relive Your reaction to a single moment, okay?
A single moment.
I know we don't have a ton of time, but a single moment.
I want to play for you just really quickly.
And to get your reaction since you were there in Atlanta with the president.
Let's go.
unidentified
Not the right way to go.
What I've done since I've changed the law, what's happened?
I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.
That's better than when he left office.
And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban.
On the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum office.
benny johnson
That's all Trump needed.
unidentified
President Trump?
donald j trump
I really don't know what he said at the end of this sentence.
I don't think he knows what he said either.
benny johnson
What was your reaction when you saw that?
wesley hunt
That was the highlight of the whole thing.
He just basically just killed him with that one shot.
We live here in Texas.
We know we've had 11 million people enter this country illegally.
We know with one stroke of a pen, Joe Biden destroyed President Trump's policies that kept Americans safer.
We had a protected border.
And then now we have...
Animals entering our country, people are dying.
And this man's going to stand on stage and tell a bold-faced lie to the American public as if we weren't living it.
Another thing that stuck out to me was this, though.
When Joe Biden said that no American soldiers died under his watch for the first president in modern history, that's a bold-faced lie.
Because I watched those 13 brave Americans die in Afghanistan, and then I watched them return home, and I watched this man stand on the tarmac and check his watch repeatedly as if he had somewhere else to be.
And then he's still on that stage and told that bold-faced lie.
As a combat veteran, as a military man, that completely disgusted me.
And when he made that comment, actually, I was in the room.
You should have heard the groans.
Everyone knew immediately, like, this guy doesn't even have any idea what happened three, two, three, four years ago.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
But that shot right there, what you just played, was the end of the Biden presidency.
benny johnson
So, I would like to, I would like to.
Just explore that for just a quick second.
Because we're seeing on our social media feeds a lot of Gold Star families that became Gold Star families during the Biden administration popping off and being like, what are you talking about?
You skipped our dignified transfer.
My husband died, for instance, during your administration.
And Joe Biden doesn't recognize that.
Isn't that the most sovereign duty of a commander-in-chief?
wesley hunt
It most certainly is.
Also, what these Gold Star families know is that their loved ones would still be alive if President Trump were in office.
Because keep in mind, in the last 18 months of his presidency, not a single life was lost in Afghanistan because we had strong leadership.
And these Gold Star families were completely disgraced last night, a few nights ago, based on those comments.
How could you possibly forget the fallen?
We always remember the fallen.
And what President Trump often do when someone was lost...
He would call their families.
He would show compassion.
He would be with the families because that is the American champ.
That is the soldier's champ.
And when Joe Biden was talking about how the people in the military don't like him, the people in the military don't respect him, what a bunch of crap.
Have you seen President Trump's reception when he's around first responders and military people juxtaposed to how Biden has received, if he even goes to any of the events at all?
Again, lying.
The left is saying that President Trump was lying during the debate.
I don't know what he was lying about because Joe Biden was lying the entire time.
And sadly enough, he didn't even know he was lying because he really has no idea where he is.
benny johnson
So as you are on the campaign trail and you appear regularly with Donald Trump, and I'm sure you have a lot of plans.
I assume you'll be speaking at the RNC in a couple of weeks.
And what is the path forward through November 5?
wesley hunt
The path forward is this.
We have to continue to expose Joe Biden and his administration for what it is.
It is an absolute and complete disgrace.
We cannot rest on our laurels.
We cannot rest on that moment.
We have to keep pushing and keep driving to November.
Byron Donalds and I were both in Atlanta doing multiple events in the black community, and they were very well received, contrary to what the corrupt left media would actually say.
We have got to get black voters to the polls.
We are polling at record highs for a Republican president, but polling is one thing.
We've got to get these people out to vote.
And you were right.
We are coming up here on the convention.
It's going to be a great day for us.
President Trump will be the official man for the job.
And at that point, we've got to keep on pushing.
We've got to keep on going.
We can't rest on our laurels.
Keep driving the point home with a binary decision.
Either you want a geriatric patient or you want...
President Trump to come back and save this country.
It really is that simple, Benny.
And you know it and I know it.
benny johnson
I don't think I would ever say this on this program, Congressman.
But I want to take this official opportunity to thank Hunter Biden, because according to reports, Hunter Biden is the one who convinced Joe Biden to stay in the race.
And so between Hunter...
wesley hunt
Well, you know, Hunter's the smartest guy he knows.
unidentified
And that's right.
benny johnson
So well done.
They were apparently having a little family conference this weekend, and Joe Biden is sticking with it.
So here we go.
Buckle up.
wesley hunt
Here we go.
And Hunter Biden needs his dad to stay in because eventually he's going to need his dad to pardon him at the end of the day.
So it's definitely selfish.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Well, we know you sit on a number of committees, Congressman.
We look forward to the continuation of these investigations, the increasing in your majority in the House, and victory in November.
And we say Godspeed.
You're one of the most energetic voices.
You always give us a little extra pep in our step when you're on the program.
210,000 Americans.
Can't be wrong.
Go ahead and follow the Congressman and keep up with his incredible travels and some really great family photos, actually.
wesley hunt
Thank you, mate.
benny johnson
Yeah, that's right.
Thank you.
Godspeed, Congressman.
wesley hunt
Enjoy your 4th of July.
This is the holiday for this nation.
What a great week to have after the victory that we had last week to actually celebrate this country and celebrate our Independence Day.
benny johnson
Yes, that's exactly correct.
Happy Fourth of July.
Thank you for your service, Congressman.
wesley hunt
Thank you, brother.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you you you All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are rocking and we are rolling here on the program.
We have some salt.
For you.
That has been gathered by our intrepid producers.
Executive producer ALX has found some giant, giant rock salt from MSNBC.
MSNBC reacting to these decisions.
I'm not sure if we are ready with our salt, but ladies and gentlemen, I see salt shakers pouring through the comment section and we would never, ever deny you.
An opportunity to pour your salt on these libs.
So here we go.
Let's go.
We got back-to-back clips here from MSNBC.
And these are going to be MSNBC initially reacting to the decision and saying that Clarence Thomas is Donald Trump.
It's okay.
And then we have MSNBC analysts.
Arguing that this decision will allow presidents to order assassinations.
Oh, okay.
So they're having a real one on MSNBC.
Let's play these back-to-back.
unidentified
Yeah?
benny johnson
All right.
Get your salt flowing.
We'll put up your salty, salty comments live on screen.
But, whew, baby.
The libs having a real one.
Libs are not doing well.
Everybody check their meds.
Everybody, you know, therapy couches are filling up.
Around the country.
Here we go.
Let's salt these lids.
unidentified
Let's salt these lids.
katy tur
Sounds very Trump-like.
In this case, there has been much discussion about ensuring that a president is not above the law, but as the court explains, a president's immunity from prosecution for his official acts is the law.
The Constitution provides for an energetic executive because such an executive is essential to the security of liberty.
I say that sounds Trumpy because Trump always calls himself energetic, and he's got the stamina, and he's got the force of will, and he's got the...
The energy, I'm going to say that again, to be president of the United States.
It's a way that he's contrasted himself against many candidates.
It's what he's trying to do right now with president.
andrew weissmann
This decision today makes it so imperative that the person who holds the office understand the limits on and exercises those powers with restraint.
Because this...
The thing that is not dealt with here is the hypothetical that was dealt with in the Court of Appeals about SEAL Team 6. And it is unclear how this...
They actually studiously avoid dealing with that because you could make the argument that that is official conduct.
At the very least...
katy tur
How would you make that argument?
andrew weissmann
You'd sit there and say, I have determined as commander-in-chief that this is necessary.
And the way that Judge Pan in the lower court phrased it was, what if the president decides that a political adversary is a threat to democracy and orders the killing?
And why isn't that now an official act with a presumption of immunity?
And remember, you don't look at motive.
You can't consider that he's doing it to get rid of Okay, baby.
benny johnson
So salty.
Oh, Andrew.
Andrew Weissman.
Oh, Andrew Weissman.
What a sleazeball, that guy.
What a rat.
Man, that guy.
He's a guy who led the Mueller investigation, right?
He's the guy who dragged that thing out.
Andrew Weissman is such scum.
It's so great to see him in a panic over all of this.
The panic is delicious.
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Someone who can't, someone who's not awake is Joe Biden.
Let's just go quickly through the news here.
Again, we, you know, you never know with these things, but we had a pre-planned show all around this breaking news with immunity at the Supreme Court.
It's nice to see it hit, baby.
It's nice to see it hit.
Something that's hitting.
Joe Biden, I'm not sure if he's cognizant enough to actually know, but 72% of Americans say that Joe Biden needs to drop out.
This according to CBS.
Increasing number of voters don't think Biden should be running after a debate.
Oh, baby, it's getting bad.
Look at that.
Does Biden have the mental cognitive ability to serve as resident?
72% say they do not.
He does not.
Now that was at 65% and now it's just jumped.
Ooh, baby.
Only 20% of America says that Joe Biden has the cognitive capacity.
This is a clip that was all over our social media this weekend to just show you the visual evidence of Biden's decline.
Let's go.
joe biden
I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights.
And those civil rights, by the way, include not just only African Americans, but the LGBT community.
unidentified
He wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare.
joe biden
I did not oppose busing in America.
What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education.
That's what I opposed.
unidentified
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with COVID.
Dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if...
joe biden
You will determine the outcome of this election.
Vote, vote, vote.
If you're able to vote early in your state, vote early.
If you're able to vote in person, vote in person.
Vote whatever way is the best way for you.
Because you will, he cannot stop you.
unidentified
And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban.
On the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.
President Trump?
donald j trump
I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
I don't think he knows what he said either.
benny johnson
Look.
I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
It was my favorite.
That was my favorite.
From the debate.
What was your favorite line from the debate?
Another Trump banger was when Trump laughed out loud about Joe Biden's golf handicap.
And then when Joe Biden says, we finally beat Medicare!
And Donald Trump's like, yeah, you beat Medicare, you beat it to death.
These are good lines, but Donald Trump didn't need to body Joe Biden, right?
Like Donald Trump, I think many of the people who were helping Donald Trump prepare for this debate were on our show.
Laura Trump, of course, being one of the Trump family members, were on our show saying, listen, the point of this debate is to be presidential.
It's not to like bloody Joe Biden into a pulp that looks like elder abuse.
Let's let Jill Biden be the elder abuser.
And also let's let the corporate press be the elder abuser.
Joe Biden receiving nothing, just complete disrespect this weekend, much deserved disrespect from the corporate media of all places.
It seems like they have Caught up to what we've been reporting for a long time.
That's, of course, a lie.
The corporate media simply have been trying to hide Joe Biden's state from you.
They've known Joe Biden's state for a long time.
Hunter Biden has text messages from 2008 saying that his dad has dementia.
We've covered him on the show time and time again.
We seem to be the only people that care about this piece of government evidence.
But we cover them on the show time and time again.
Hunter Biden saying, yeah, my dad has dementia.
He said it in his own text messages.
To a physician in the family.
This was in 2008.
Tucker Carlson also up with a banger of a tweet this morning from his sources.
I guess we'll pull that up.
But here we go.
National polls.
Look at this.
Look at the savagery of the national polls here.
Here's Face the Nation.
unidentified
We begin this morning with reaction to the first presidential debate of 2024.
Our polling unit asked voters how they view the candidates now, including their cognitive health.
The results are not encouraging for the president.
The number of voters who say President Biden has the cognitive ability to serve has dropped from 35% earlier this month to 27% after the debate.
That's the lowest number since CBS began asking voters that question last September.
Nearly three-quarters of all registered voters now say he shouldn't be running, and nearly half of Democrats say he shouldn't remain the nominee, an extraordinary number for an incumbent who didn't face a competitive primary.
benny johnson
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, um, must have been a strange audio glitch there in that clip, um, as the audio cut out, but, um...
Well, speaking of cutting, a absolute gangland shanking occurred of Joe Biden on his favorite show, Meet the Press.
Joe Biden's favorite show on NBC, the show that is the king of D.C. Sunday morning shows, the much lauded legendary Meet the Press took a hammer.
To Joe Biden.
A shit, a shank, a prison shank to Joe Biden, metaphorically.
And, um, I mean, I don't even know how, there are no words for this open with Kristen Welker, who is like this, you know, Biden acolyte, uh, who seemingly loves Joe Biden and hates Donald Trump.
Uh, somebody got ahold of the prompter and then they...
They committed an act of violence against Joe Biden's campaign in 2024.
Here we go.
kristen welker
On Friday, in a stunning move, the New York Times editorial board...
Called on President Biden to serve his country and drop out of the presidential race.
NBC News has learned that President Biden is expected to address his campaign with his family at Camp David.
That's according to five people familiar with the matter.
Now, he and First Lady Jill Biden arrived there late last night to join their children and grandchildren in a trip planned before Thursday's debate.
The campaign was always going to be a topic of conversation, but now undoubtedly Thursday's debate will be front and center.
Senior advisor Anita Dunn addressed the matter on Saturday.
unidentified
You all did not have any kind of conversations about, oh, should Joe Biden drop out of this race?
The conversation that we had is, okay, what do we do next?
Okay?
That is, if there's one thing that we're about, it's, okay, Barack Obama said bad debates happen.
We had a bad debate.
What do we do next?
And, you know, the president, above all, is focused on what do we do next?
What do I need to go do?
kristen welker
President Biden, who agreed to the earliest general election debate in modern political history, had one goal.
To persuade voters who are skeptical about his age and fitness for office that he is up to serve another four years.
Mr. Biden has consistently told voters, watch me.
benny johnson
Yikes!
So you heard the dumpy, washed up.
Dusty, mothballed Biden advisor there.
Anita Dunn!
Because nobody ever changes any staff ever in Democrat politics.
The same old washed up junk from the Clinton era continues to get jobs.
James Carville continues to be relevant somehow.
And nonetheless, Anita Dunn there saying, well, you know, Barack Obama loves Joe Biden and wants him to be the nominee.
Well, I give you Tucker Carlson reporting from seconds ago.
Actually, from 4 a.m. in the morning, Tucker Carlson is in Australia right now.
So here we go.
A banger, by the way, from Tucker.
From an unusually good source comes Tucker Carlson's quote.
And by the way, an unusually good source, let me just remind you that Tucker Carlson, I'm not saying this comes from Hunter Biden.
I'm just saying that Tucker Carlson was neighbors with Hunter Biden in Washington, D.C. And exactly where Tucker Carlson is.
House was in Georgetown, and Tucker's talked about it regularly, that his neighbor in Georgetown, and Tucker Carlson lived in D.C. for a very long time, for decades, his neighbor was Hunter Biden.
And that neighborhood in Georgetown is where all of the fancy people in Democrat politics live.
And so Tucker Carlson knows many of them and is in communications with many of them still to this day.
Obviously, some of the sourcing comes from.
I'm not saying this comes from Hunter Biden.
I'm just saying you can't get better connected than Tucker on these issues.
Here we go.
Obama's tweet supporting Joe Biden was disingenuous.
And if you want a buildup here, Obama, you don't need to see the tweet.
Obama just says, Joe Biden is the nominee.
Right?
That's it.
He's like, bad debates happen.
Joe Biden, the nominee.
Obama's tweet supporting Joe Biden was disingenuous.
In private, Obama is telling people Biden can't win.
He is therefore in favor of an open convention.
This is incredible.
Obama will not say whom he supports, nor as of yesterday afternoon, had he met personally with Biden to deliver the message.
Relations between the Obamas and the Bidens have never been warm.
At times, they've been hostile, but recently they've deteriorated further, mostly due to Jill Biden.
The absolute Lady Macbeth wench of the White House.
She is a monster, by the way.
A monster.
Like, just pause for a moment.
Are you married?
Do you have a boyfriend, girlfriend?
Do you have somebody that you love?
Just put yourself in the hypothetical.
And maybe you've been there.
I've been there with my own grandmother.
I've been there with my own family members where they've deteriorated in their old age and they need special care.
And could you imagine?
Doing what Jill Biden's doing to Joe Biden.
Jill Biden knows.
She knows what's going on.
She knows what's happening with Joe.
Could you imagine doing that to your loved one?
What a monster.
You must be demonic.
You are truly a witch.
unidentified
She's a witch.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Dude, could you imagine doing that to your loved one?
Over my dead body.
I have a wife who I love very, very much.
We have three children together.
We've been married for seven years.
And could I possibly imagine if she was in some type of state and we'll all get old, right?
And who knows what'll happen?
Who knows what God's plan is for all of us?
But like, over my dead body, would somebody be abusive, which is what's happening with Joe Biden, in that state?
Like, to my wife?
You'd have to kill me!
If someone was going to try and take advantage of or abuse my wife for power in some type of dilapidated state, I'm sure you feel the same way.
If you're married, or if you just have an elderly person in your family right now that needs special care, as hundreds of millions of people in America do.
Could you imagine them taking advantage of your Nana?
Or your loved one in a way that Jill Biden is taking advantage of Joe Biden?
What a monster she is.
Truly, I mean, truly, she is the Lady Macbeth of the White House.
Okay, so here we go.
Continuing with Tucker Carlson.
My apologies for that.
I just, you know, my wife and I were talking about this this weekend.
It just, it makes me angry, quite frankly.
Jill Biden in the...
In the hours and days after the debate, she kept her husband cloistered away from anybody who might convince him to drop out.
Jill Biden is the driving force behind her husband's re-election campaign, just as she was in 2020, when other members of the family, including Biden's sister Val, considered him too impaired to run.
The next generation of potential Democratic candidates understand this is all an opportunity, and they are circling particularly Gretchen Whitmer, who is promoting herself aggressively.
So this is Tucker's breaking news here.
So this is what Tucker has said.
This, of course, has gone thermonuclear, 6 million views, 67,000 likes, 15,000 retweets at time of recording, and we are live right now.
So here it is.
So it's live.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, not good.
Not great.
You can see, of course, Jill Biden, after the debate, treating her husband like a two-year-old who's potty training.
Here we go.
unidentified
Joe, you did such a great job.
You answered every question you knew all the time.
And let me ask the crowd, what did Trump do?
Why?
Yes!
*Mario's screaming* *Mario's screaming*
benny johnson
Don't feel bad for Joe Biden.
Let me tell you something you shouldn't do.
You should never feel bad for Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is getting, you know, the biblical treatment of an evil leader.
I don't need to go into it, but just go check what happens with evil leaders in the Bible, in the Old Testament, New Testament.
Go check what happens with, like, immoral, villainous, murderous liars who are leaders, who, you know, who get an opportunity to lead nations and do despicable work.
And who defy God when doing that.
It's biblical what's happening to Joe Biden.
Let's just call it what it is, right?
Okay.
So, ladies and gentlemen, this is what Tucker has to say.
And the cope is real.
Now, we told you on Friday, watch what Nancy Pelosi does.
According to reports, Nancy Pelosi is like the last, the last individual who is hanging on for dear life, like to Joe Biden.
With a clause in Joe Biden, like trying from an institutional Democrat perspective, like keep Joe Biden on the ballot.
And there's no real obvious choice or push or strategy for what they could do if Joe Biden doesn't remain on the ballot.
I mean, it's not good, actually.
It's a nightmare of a strategy and becomes very, very bad.
Very quickly for the Democrat Party.
It descends into total chaos with riots and just a nightmare.
Maybe no candidate at all.
They're up against a wall here.
So it is a proper nightmare for Democrats.
Nancy Pelosi, ladies and gentlemen.
What did she have to say?
We said on Friday's show, watch what Pelosi has to say.
What's Pelosi talking about?
What does she say over the weekend?
Oh, and you're going to love this.
Here's what...
So Nancy slammed like five dirty martinis, wobbled her way into a TV studio, and had this to say about Donald Trump.
unidentified
My people are very much Biden, Kamala Harris, and this is an opportunity for Joe Biden to go out there and show he has the stamina and the rest.
And by the way, while the press, and for some reason they don't, there are a...
Healthcare professionals who think that Trump has dementia, that his connection, his thoughts do not go together.
benny johnson
I can't even talk like that because I do have my real teeth, okay?
I do still have my real teeth and I have my real brain still in my skull.
unidentified
But people think that Trump has dementia.
benny johnson
This is like, Nancy, this is the coat.
So the play is going to be that Trump has dementia.
Got it.
Okay, thanks.
It's so good.
It's so good.
Here was Donald Trump at his first rally after the debate saying, hey, is Biden going to drop out?
What does Trump have to say?
donald j trump
Many people are saying that after last night's performance that Joe Biden is leaving the race.
But the fact is, I don't really believe that because he does better in polls than any of the Democrats they're talking about.
You've seen that, Glenn.
These polls come out with some of the names there being like Gavin Newsom.
He can't run California.
He's one of the worst governors.
No, he's a bad governor.
He can't run.
He can't run.
California, people are leaving one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
In terms of weather, in terms of everything else, you can't do any better than California.
He's doing a terrible job.
But he gets up and he says, oh, California's doing great, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, like a machine gun, ba-ba-ba-ba.
But it's doing bad.
People are leaving so fast.
And he'd be easy.
But he's got lousy poll numbers.
And you take a look at some of the others.
Then, of course, Kamala is somebody that will be on this go.
It might have been Joe Biden's single best decision putting her as vice president.
Might have been his best because nobody wants that.
I do.
I'd be very happy with that.
But they don't poll as well as this guy.
I mean, I don't want to speak against myself, but maybe...
And they polled everybody.
They polled Michelle Obama.
She polls very badly.
No, she polls terribly.
Michelle Obama, people, you know, they polled many people.
It's hard to believe, but crooked Joe Biden polls better than those people.
benny johnson
All right, baby.
Okay, we have some breaking news now, and we also have a confirmation that Mike Davis is joining the program, ladies and gentlemen.
Mike Davis in front of the Supreme Court.
He will be joining the program.
This is part of the beauty of just, you know, doing it live.
Eff it, we'll do it live, as they say.
So Mike Davis will be joining the program momentarily.
Such an important voice on these issues on the heels of something that is also particularly dark and unprecedented in this country, ripping, obviously, Donald Trump off the ballot, attempting to prosecute presidents for official acts, and then locking up dissidents, political dissidents.
Something that we've never seen in this country before, but something that we're seeing, obviously, in the January 6th cases, some of which have been gutted on Friday, praise God, but also that we are seeing today with Steve Bannon, who ignored a subpoena from an unlawful committee, the January 6th committee, in the House, and now they have sentenced Steve Bannon to prison.
Now, Steve Bannon is in front of the prison.
Right now, or was moments ago, this is Danbury Prison, and Steve Bannon, in a very Steve Bannon-esque way, is doing a rally there.
We are obviously deeply in favor of an immediate pardon by President Trump of Steve Bannon.
This is one of the most evil things that we've ever seen.
Steve Bannon, you know, arguing executive privilege.
Uh, against the January 6th committee, Steve Bannon worked in the White House and worked directly for Donald Trump and was a co-campaign manager for Donald Trump in 2016 when he won.
And so you should be, he should be able to argue executive privilege here, obviously, and they're going after Steve Bannon because he has a massive audience because he speaks the truth and he's a friend of our show.
And so we wanted to show you here, Steve Bannon, uh, in front of the prison, doing a rally in front of the prison, man.
Careful who you make a martyr, as they say.
Here's Steve.
steve bannon
I'm going to prison today.
I, I, I, I am proud to go to prison.
If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny, if this is what it takes to stand up to the Garland corrupt criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this is what it takes to stand up to Joe Biden.
To Joe Biden, I'm proud to do it.
Father, can you say a few words?
unidentified
I'm not authorized to talk to the media.
steve bannon
You're not?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
Well, thank you for coming.
unidentified
I agree with your positions, and I'll be praying for you.
I'm in the St. Ignatius Retreat House, 15 minutes away.
You are?
Yeah.
I'll get you whatever you need.
steve bannon
Father, don't pray for me.
Pray for our enemies.
They're the ones who are going to need the prayers.
Thank you, Father.
unidentified
Sir Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.
be our protection against the wickedness and the snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray.
And do thou, Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.
Ave Maria puttissima.
God bless you.
benny johnson
I mean, if you don't believe that there is a spiritual reawakening in this nation, then you are blind.
Or you just don't have a pulse anymore.
There is something really powerful happening.
It's hard to believe that that clip is real.
I believe, as of right now, ALX confirmed this.
I believe that Steve Bannon has surrendered to prison for a four-month term, and that clip was broadcast moments ago, and Steve Bannon will be then heading into federal prison for the defiance of a subpoena.
It is a, by every...
Wait and measure a political prisoner of Nancy Pelosi right now.
So this is exactly what Steve Bannon said in a bombshell ABC News interview that aired yesterday.
Just an incredible Steve Bannon just owning it, owning this ABC News segment from stem to stern and shadowboxing and making such profound points.
I can't believe ABC News broadcast it.
Here we go.
unidentified
Some of those who served Trump and crossed him say they're worried.
Stephanie Grisham, who was the communications director, the press secretary, communications director for chief of staff for the first lady.
steve bannon
And you're not talking about people like that.
That's ridiculous.
unidentified
She says that she's worried about being charged with treason, that she could be disappeared someday.
steve bannon
That's absurd.
I'm talking about people in positions of authority.
unidentified
Andrew McCabe, the former deputy, he says he might have to leave the country.
steve bannon
He ought to be very worried.
He's definitely going to be investigated.
So is Comey.
So is Esper.
I believe Milley will.
Look at what happened.
unidentified
Millie, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
steve bannon
Yes, because we don't know what conversations he had outside the military chain of command when he was chairman of the Joint Chiefs, when he talked to the Chinese, when he talked to Nancy Pelosi.
We have to investigate all that.
If we haven't done anything, you shouldn't worry.
unidentified
Well, they're worried because Trump and you are talking about retribution.
steve bannon
It's not retribution at all.
Wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
Those were his words, not my words.
He is your retribution.
steve bannon
And what he says by retribution, like he said last night on the debate stage.
His retribution is a very successful, more successful second term.
What we're saying is we want justice.
We want to have full investigations, and then if criminal charges come up, then criminal charges come up.
unidentified
I mean, you made a promise on your show as you said that the attorney general will be in prison.
steve bannon
100%.
unidentified
So you're not just talking about investigation.
Is Bill Barr on the retribution list?
steve bannon
I think Bill Barr has to be investigated.
Not retribution.
You keep talking retribution.
unidentified
No, it's all...
Because Trump said retribution.
And you said retribution.
steve bannon
It's justice.
unidentified
So Bill Barr needs to be investigated.
Bill Barr needs to go to prison with Merrick Garland.
steve bannon
I didn't say that.
unidentified
Well, I'm asking you.
steve bannon
I didn't say that.
We have to see.
I'm not going to prejudge somebody.
We have to see.
unidentified
So Bill Barr could be going to prison as part of this retribution campaign.
steve bannon
It's not retribution.
It's justice.
benny johnson
It's incredible.
I mean, watching a clip like that, this is the first time I've seen the full clip.
I've watched it along with you.
To have a journalist, John Carl, sit there while the Biden DOJ...
Is unlawfully locking up hundreds, at the very least, 350 Americans had their lives destroyed by, in the Fisher case, 1512C2 is the actual federal statute.
A documents statute written about Enron that Merrick Garland got together with a team of his cockroaches and rats in Washington, D.C., these scumbag lawyers, and they were able to twist and bend.
And break American law in order to lock up 350 of their political enemies.
The bloody cheek that John Carl has to sit there across from Steve Bannon, who's going to federal prison for defying a subpoena of an unlawful January 6th committee?
The cheek!
These people disgrace and humiliate themselves.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump is facing hundreds of years in prison on 91 federal charges.
The Supreme Court having to rebuke again and again.
A reminder that the Supreme Court had to rebuke states ripping Trump off the ballot.
We forget so quickly that that was the goal of multiple states.
You had half a dozen states, leftist states, saying we are going to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.
Like, a traffic judge in Illinois tried to do it.
It reached levels of insanity.
And John Carl doesn't say a peep about any of those peeps.
Doesn't cry a single tear.
Doesn't ask a single question.
He's in the room with cringe Jean-Pierre every single day.
Doesn't say a damn thing.
And he has the audacity to march in there with Steve Bannon and be like, Might try to lock up actual legitimate criminals.
We're so sad about it.
Preview of things to come.
Ladies and gentlemen, a preview of things to come.
Somebody who's been previewing this on our program for a long time.
In fact, one of our first guests when we started this program three, four years ago, I've lost count.
One of our first guests was Mike Davis.
Mike Davis when, you know...
He wasn't a household name, as he is now.
Wasn't the viceroy, the soon-to-be viceroy of Washington, D.C. Mike Davis joins the program now after years of correct legal theorizing on this program and an emphasis on the Constitution, law, and order.
And an optimistic projection as to what's going to happen in the future for these monsters who have so manipulated and destroyed our Constitution.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, I think only via audio, but nonetheless, crisp and clear is Mike Davis.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
you you you you Mike, how are you, sir?
benny johnson
Just checking the audio here.
unidentified
I am doing great.
It's always nice to be right, like I am today, and it's always nice to rub the Democrats' noses in today's victory when they said that there's no chance the Supreme Court was going to side with President Trump and hold that the President of the United States, any President of the United States, is immune from criminal prosecution for their official acts.
The Supreme Court just did that six to three with the Chief Justice John Roberts.
You know, no MAGA warrior.
Writing the majority opinion, and this is a big win for Trump.
It's a big win for the Constitution.
It's a big win for the presidency, and therefore it's a big win for our country.
And I would say it's actually, it's not surprising, but it's pretty sad that the three liberal justices could not set aside their partisanship and follow the Constitution and put their country before their party with the three liberal justices writing their deranged dissent.
benny johnson
So it looks like, again, a clear victory for Donald Trump.
We've had other legal scholars on the program saying this is a 95% victory for Donald Trump and that this atomizes Jack Smith's case.
Others saying that there is a...
Cardiac arrest happening right now in the special counsel's office.
What say you, Mike?
unidentified
Yeah, this Jack Smith's cases are effectively over after this.
You had the Fisher case that gutted two of the four charges by Jack Smith in D.C. for January 6th against President Trump for the non-crime of Trump objecting to the presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act.
Of 1887 in the First Amendment.
And then with this presidential immunity case, it really gutted the rest.
There might be 10% of Jack Smith, 10 or 20% of Jack Smith's case that remains after this.
But even if everything Jack Smith alleges is true, there's no crime.
This is nonsense.
And even John Roberts is seeing this, you know, again, not exactly a MAGA warrior.
He understands how destructive Jack Smith's prosecutions are, Biden's blatant Democrat lawfare and election interference against Trump.
And so this is a good night, Jack Smith and the special counsel's office.
They may be able to limp along.
They're not going to be able to try President Trump before the election.
Trump's going to win.
Trump's acting attorney general should dismiss these cases on day one, and then that acting attorney general should open a criminal probe.
On President Biden and Merrick Garland and Jack Smith and Jay Bratz and all these other Biden Democrats who orchestrated this illegal conspiracy to violate the constitutional rights of President Trump.
His top aides like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon who are in prison.
His lawyers like Jeff Clark and John Eastman, his supporters on January 6th.
Parents outraged by gender chaos in schools.
And the resulting rapes in high school bathrooms.
Christians, including 75-year-old Christians, go into prison for praying at abortion clinics.
While Biden and his Justice Department give amnesty to Joe Biden and James Biden and Hunter Biden.
Every Sunday, Biden.
He's taken more than $20 million from our worst enemies in this foreign corruption.
They've given amnesty to BLM, Antifa, abortion industry activists, Hamas, trans-terrorists.
We have a politicized and weaponized justice system under Joe Biden, and they must face severe legal, financial, and political consequences for what they have done.
They have tried to destroy...
benny johnson
Mike, you'd have to probably take a canoe to work in Washington, D.C. the day that the acting attorney general on January 20, 2025 Dismisses these charges outright because of the leftist tears that will flow through the city.
I don't think we'll ever hear a louder shrieking demon scream than that day.
We may hear louder into the future, but that will be ear-piercing that day.
Can you game theory for us?
How that will happen?
How that would happen?
Some on the show have speculated that the DOJ just couldn't continue the prosecution outright because they'd be prosecuting a sitting president, and that's unconstitutional.
But what you're saying is that the Attorney General should just strangle this in the cradle on day one.
unidentified
On day one, Trump's acting Attorney General should order Jack Smith.
to dismiss these charges with prejudice and then he should fire Jack Smith and his entire office and then he should open a criminal probe for conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C.
241 and 242.
They have politicized and weaponized the Biden Justice Department and these Biden Democrat prosecutors and these Biden Democrat law firms and actors, people like Andrew Weissman.
This is a criminal conspiracy.
To violate the constitutional rights of President Trump, his top aides, his lawyers, his supporters.
And this is unacceptable.
This is how the Roman Republic fell.
It was the lawfare by the Roman insiders against Caesar that made him desperate, and he crossed the Rubicon from Golan to Rome, and it led to the Civil War and the fall of the Roman Republic.
And I'm not saying we're going into Civil War, but there must be legal.
political, financial consequences.
Severe legal, political, and financial consequences for what Joe Biden, his White House team, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Jack Smith, Jay Bratt, Jonathan Sue, Gary Stern, Matthew Colangelo,
Nathan Wade, Fannie Willis, Tish James, Alvin Bragg, all of these Democrat operatives, Andrew Weissman and the Lawfare team on the outside, they have all They're trying to throw him in prison for the rest of his life.
They're even calling now, these Biden Democrats are now even calling for drone strikes and Trump's assassination by Biden.
This is insane.
These are the people who pretend like they're the defenders of democracy, who are destroying democracy because they don't accept the will of American voters.
And so they just want to bankrupt, take him off the ballot, imprison him, and kill President Trump.
This is insane.
benny johnson
So, Mike, I did want to get your thoughts on this if we were live on Friday and didn't do a full debate recap.
I wanted to get your thoughts on this because you sent out a tweet, and it'll be up on screen here in a moment, of you with a young man who was presumably prosecuted under 1512C2, saying that there's going to be hell to pay.
And he represents 350, at least, Americans, including President Trump, who have been attempted to be prosecuted by Merrick Garland under...
This bogus statute that had the bark ripped completely off of it by the ruling on Friday.
And so given your tweet here, January 6th political prisoner Brandon, a happy man after the Supreme Court delivered justice today in the Fisher decision, I wanted to get your take very important for me.
what happens to these people who were persecuted unrighteously and illegally by the government?
Can they sue the government?
Can something happen here to get some justice for these Yeah, this Brandon Fellows was a non-violent first-time offender who went into the Capitol on January 6th, and he got 35 months in jail.
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He got sentenced to longer than that, but he had to serve 30...
Five months in prison for this, right?
He was a nonviolent first-time offender.
That just shows you this is absolute political persecution by Biden and Merrick Garland, Matthew Graves, the U.S. attorney in D.C., who's going after all these January 6th defendants, Jack Smith, who's going after Trump for January 6th.
These people...
And the Biden White House and the Biden Justice Fund and these Biden Democrat prosecutors around the country have destroyed the lives of so many real Americans in real America, right?
And I'm not saying what happened on January 6th was good.
It was a lawful protest permitted by the National Park Service that got out of control and devolved into a riot.
So what should have happened is they should have charged people who trespass with trespass.
And the people who were violent more harshly.
But what they wanted to do is they wanted to label them all as insurrectionists, even though there is no charge of insurrection, no evidence of insurrection, because the Biden Justice Department and these D.C. courts, including Democrats and Republicans on these D.C. uniparty courts, they hate Trump, they hate his aides, they hate his allies, they hate his supporters, and so they wanted to send a message.
That they thought they were going to destroy Trump and destroy the MAGA movement after January 6th with these malicious persecutions, these malicious political prosecutions.
These are political prisoners.
They are political prisoners right now in the federal prisons.
Dozens of them who were charged under 18 U.S.C.
1512.
The Supreme Court just reversed those convictions in the Fisher case because the Biden Justice Department contorted, politicized, and weaponized a post-Enron obstruction of justice statute intended to go after corporate fraud for Biden and his Justice Department to go after fraud.
benny johnson
And really quickly, Mike, really quickly, I know we're tied for time.
What happens to the people who were convicted under this statute that is now illegal and was unconstitutionally decided?
Can any of them get anything back?
Can they get a mighticum of decency, a lawsuit, a civil rights action against the government?
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It's very hard, but they should bring civil rights lawsuits against these.
Against Biden and his White House staff and Garland, bring civil rights lawsuits against them and let President Biden try to claim presidential immunity and let the courts figure that out, right?
And so, yeah, there must be...
What needs to happen is when Trump wins on day one, day one, Trump's acting attorney general must open a criminal probe on this.
And day one, Trump's acting attorney general...
We must ask the Office of Professional Responsibility and the Justice Department to open an internal ethics probe.
And on day one, Trump's acting attorney general needs to fire Jack Smith and Matthew Graves and these other prosecutors who perpetuated this biggest injustice in American history.
The January 6th prosecution is based upon this bogus, political, unconstitutional, illegal reading of 18 U.S.C.
Well, these prosecutors, these judges, these Democrat operatives, these Biden officials, they must face severe legal, political, and financial consequences so this never happens again.
benny johnson
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Godspeed.
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Thank you, Ben.
Thank you.
you you Ooh, baby!
benny johnson
What a day for our rights!
What a day for our Constitution!
It wouldn't be proper for us to carry on a show about the glories of our Constitution and the glories of our First Amendment and the right to peacefully assemble and the right to redress our government of grievances without the thing that makes all of those rights possible, which is our second amendment, our Monday Gunday, brought to you by Spikes Tactical.
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benny johnson
you you you you Man, I love living in Florida.
I love living in Florida.
Try not to do like a Florida commercial every single day.
We do broadcast from Florida.
I did move my family down to Florida after an enormous amount of research and travel.
We needed to get the hell out of a Washington, D.C. hellscape.
We came to Florida because we just kind of made a bet that this was going to be like the place to build this business, to build this show, and to raise a family.
Hot diggity damn, were we right?
Get a load of this.
Florida sheriff, would-be burglar, got his butt pistol whipped by a 66-year-old man, and the sheriff is going to give a commendation to the person who pistol whipped the burglar.
The guy's going to get an award.
So down here in Florida, you get an award for defending your home and defending your property and defending yourself.
Against tyranny, and that's the way it should be.
That's actually the only thing that stops tyranny.
Do you understand that, right, Libs?
Like, do you understand that?
Okay.
You're the fascist!
Oh, okay, got it.
Well, well, well, let's go ahead and read.
Florida's Bevard County Sheriff William Ivey said 29-year-old Blake Robinson was caught trying to burglarize a car.
He got his butt pistol whipped by the vehicle's 66-year-old owner.
Fox News reported on the incident.
It occurred on Thursday.
Sheriff Ivey used his Facebook post to explain that the 66-year-old owner, 66 years old, whipping a 29-year-old.
Good for you, man.
Heard strange noises and went out to discover the scumbag rummaging through his car.
The 66-year-old called 911, which is what you should do.
Always make sure that you alert the authority.
And then, according to the sheriff, During the early morning hours, the citizens called 911, heard a noise outside the residence, and he went back in and was met by this guy, Blake Robinson, who was making a stupid mistake of attempting to gain access to a car that, of course, was not his.
That's illegal.
Our victim went on to locate his phone so he could get a hold of local law enforcement, and then he was attacked and hit in the head before being thrown to the ground.
Despite being kicked in the head, Robinson, the victim, was able to defend himself.
Uh, causing him to fall back so that he could get away.
Uh, the deputies arrived on the scene and were able to quickly detain, uh, the burglar, all happy, uh, all happy and good.
Uh, the 66-year-old, uh, got up and, uh, yeah, kicked the guy's ass.
Uh, that's right, Mr. Tough Guy Robinson got manhandled by a 66-year-old man, uh, who thankfully required only brief medical attention and was left without serious injuries.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't rob people.
Don't F around.
You will find out.
Thank God this is still America.
In most places, you can defend yourself, which is our sovereign right.
And it is actually your duty.
Especially if you're a father or if you're a head of a household, it is your sovereign duty to you, your ancestors, and to the way of nature for you to be able to defend yourself.
It is why we are very proud to partner with Spikes Tactical.
You see the wall of gorgeous AR-15s up in our studio.
Don't come a-knocking if you want to stay walking.
That's the rule here in Florida.
Your Spikes Tactical Monday Gunday for you.
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Do we not play the stinger after that?
Do we not play the stinger?
unidentified
No?
benny johnson
Yeah, I kind of do.
I love the stinger.
Let's go, man.
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*music*
benny johnson
Let's make that a tradition where we play the stinger.
Nice little bookend.
I like that.
Guitar riff.
Okay, baby.
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The verse of the day is here.
The good news we can always bring you.
We've been bringing you a lot of good news recently, but some days...
We have no good news.
You know, some days it's like Donald Trump has another 41 indictments, right?
Like, it's hard to spin that straw into gold.
And so we make sure that we stay focused on the golden rules and the good book and on good news.
And so our verse of the day is ever on this program to bring you the good news from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, in the scriptures.
From 1 Thessalonians 5, 16. Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances.
Man, does that apply to you?
That's a tough verse for me.
Because, you know, there's ups and downs.
And you have tough days, right?
But the scriptures, the holy scriptures say, rejoice, always pray, continually give thanks in all circumstances.
This is what God commands us.
And why can you do this?
How can you do this?
It's something we talk about a lot.
Because on this show, again, we are obligated to bring you bad news sometimes, you know?
Sometimes we have shows where nothing good is happening, right?
How can you stay?
How can you say that we are going to praise God in that circumstance, right?
When you have a bad ruling, a tough ruling, here's one, Donald Trump found guilty on 34 counts.
How can you be happy in those circumstances?
And so on and so on and so on.
And in your personal lives, right?
And the lives with your family.
And if you have kids, you have rough days, right?
How?
It's simple.
It's really simple, actually.
And the older I get, the more I see this clearly.
You just need to set your...
If your hope is in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
if your hope is in the God of your ancestors, And the God that got your families through famine and drought and plagues and across an ocean to live in this, the greatest country on earth, if that's where your hope is, in what bound up, like, you know, your entire bloodline and gave them the power to move forward and the power to be confident and stand upright, then you'll be good, right?
So, like, set your hope.
Set your hope and Your joy on that, right?
And not on men.
No matter who they are.
Not on political parties.
And not on any of that.
Then you'll be set.
Then you'll have something that is your rock.
And you can go out and do other good work from that, right?
So let that be your rock.
Ladies and gentlemen.
We're going to rock it this week.
It's a great 4th of July week.
We have some wonderful programming for you.
In this, the greatest country on earth.
Stand upright.
Walk.
And march with us.
Happy Warrior.
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