Yeah, those 12 jurors will return to court at 930 this morning, and they'll continue deliberating for a second day after leaving the courthouse yesterday with no verdict.
So while deliberating, the jury submitted two notes to Judge Mershon.
They asked for five things, including David Pecker and Michael Cohen's testimonies about a meeting they had with Donald Trump back in 2015.
During that meeting, prosecutors alleged they discussed a conspiracy to get Trump elected by killing negative stories about him.
Jurors also asked the judge to read the jury instructions back to them again.
Former President Trump is required to stay inside the courthouse while the jury deliberates.
He spoke with reporters in the courthouse hallway during day one.
The former president also urged the New York Court of Appeals to expedite their review of his gag order, which bars him from talking about anyone involved in the case, including witnesses.
Meanwhile, Texas Senator Ted Cruz says this is all political.
The Constitution does not apply in New York, which means if we get a conviction, it will be reversed on appeal.
But the judge doesn't care.
The prosecutor doesn't care.
This is all about the press conference, the national address that Joe Biden has scheduled to give from the White House, where he gloats, we've now convicted Donald Trump.
Okay, that's a good one, R. Let's go rock and roll.
It's Western Day, high noon, for Donald Trump in New York City.
Verdict Day today, and things are not looking great for Joe Biden and the Democrats who are prosecuting and persecuting Donald Trump for literally zero crimes, for no crimes.
And they're breaking the Constitution by doing it.
We have all of the receipts on this show, baby.
I hope you are ready to buckle up because we are going to rock and roll today all the way through.
The verdict deliberations are happening right now.
The jury is in the court right now deliberating.
They could come back at any time.
And so we are locked and loaded and ready.
The jury, by the way, has sent their third note to the judge to try and figure out what the hell's going on.
And many who we trust.
Who are very, very smart on these kind of topics are saying it's going to be a hung jury.
They're not going to come to a guilty verdict on Donald Trump.
It's going to be a hung jury and it's going to cause absolute chaos and panic and meltdowns for the left.
And the judge is doing everything that he possibly can to unconstitutionally rig and or upset the jury pool, confuse them into not knowing what's going on, into not having proper orders and instructions.
And this seems to be the newest plot by the Democrats who have manufactured and have effectively paid this guy off.
This is what his daughter is, okay?
This judge's daughter is a conduit for Democrats to fork money.
There's no reason for some 20-year-old dingbat.
A fundraiser?
I know how politics works.
Like, little 20-year-olds don't get this kind of stuff.
They plotted this.
They chose this guy's daughter for a reason.
And they have been forking money into her bank accounts.
Adam Schiff, Cory Booker, all the rest of them.
They forked money into her accounts in order to get this judge on their side.
And now they're hopefully getting what they paid for.
But it's not happening the way they thought it would happen.
So we are now in jury deliberation day two.
All day yesterday, the jury, by this time yesterday, had gone in to deliberate whether Trump's guilty or not.
And there's something remarkable that happened when they were sent in.
The judge gave them a menu, a menu of what crimes Donald Trump could potentially be guilty of.
Never seen anything like it.
It's totally and wholly unconstitutional.
It is remarkable.
This is the Sarah Bedford tweet here.
Let's go ahead and put this up.
This is the by unlawful means.
So in America, there is very firm Supreme Court rulings that declare that a jury must, a jury must come to a unanimous verdict.
So this is really important.
This is called Ramos versus Louisiana in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Spells out these principles clearly and concisely.
Clearly and concisely.
That the jury must have unanimity in guilt.
Otherwise, you're violating the principles of unanimity, and you're violating the principles of a jury trial in the first place.
You can't just have one guy think you're guilty, and then you're guilty.
Yet, this, as we covered yesterday, but it was happening live, these jury instructions were happening live, so it was hard to really sink our teeth into it.
Is there a way, their last ditch effort to try and rig the trial against Trump?
And I'll explain to you exactly why and what their end result is going to be.
This is what their end result is effectively to try and lock Donald Trump into his skyscraper in New York under house arrest and to stop him from campaigning.
To effectively prevent him with a gag order, like lock him up in a tower with a gag order and stop him from campaigning.
This is the end result.
You don't live in a free country.
You live in a deeply Deeply corrupt evil system that is fascistic by nature.
We're going to change that when you take back this place.
But ladies and gentlemen, these are the jury instructions, okay?
Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent an election of a person's public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous on what those unlawful means were.
This is directly from the judge.
We did not have this yesterday.
We talked about it, but now we've been able to sink our teeth into it.
In determining whether the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person's or public office by unlawful means, you may consider the following.
Violations of the Federal Elections Campaign Act, otherwise known as the FECA.
Falsification of business records or violations of tax laws.
So this is the judge saying, you're not allowed, you don't have to, you don't have to find Donald Trump guilty of one of these things.
You can just decide between a menu of them and then I'll find Donald Trump guilty for you.
Like, recognize this moment that we're living in.
Not only are they defying, Supreme Court precedent.
And let's go ahead and pull up that Supreme Court decision because I want everyone to know about it.
Ramos versus Louisiana.
Let's go ahead and grab that decision because it's really, really important.
Not only are you defying the Supreme Court orders here, but what you're doing is you're creating the greatest possible number of variables to prosecute Donald Trump.
Donald Trump isn't charged with any of these things.
This is what I can't wrap my head around.
With all of the guests that we have today, we're so excited to, like, get, like, we're going to be live for hours.
We're going to bring you all the breaking news.
This is going to be your headquarters for all the breaking news out of this trial today.
I really look forward to asking some of the legal scholars that we have about this, particularly Mike Davis.
But we have multiple legal scholars joining the show today.
Tom Fitton as well from Judicial Watch.
So here's Ramos versus Louisiana on unanimity.
The Supreme Court does not mince words.
You must have a unanimous jury verdict for guilt.
A single juror can make it a hung jury.
And then with a hung jury, as this ruling enumerates, with a hung jury, then the accused is immediately set free and allowed to go and can never be charged again based on double jeopardy principles.
And Donald Trump is allowed to go without so much as a slap on the wrist with a hung jury.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we should be hoping for.
What's incredible about this order is that Donald Trump isn't charged with any of these things.
I just can't wrap my head around this.
So the FBC, the Federal Elections Commission, decided not to charge Donald Trump with this.
This was all brought up in 2017-2018.
The DOJ decided not to charge Donald Trump with these things.
Donald Trump, and let's put up the jury instructions one more time here.
Donald Trump was not charged with these crimes.
The judge is legitimately making up crimes based on your priors.
Or what you can just allude, like, shadows and ghosts and mirrors.
What you think about Donald Trump, given the available evidence.
It's a really important thing to make sure that we, like, drill down on.
That that's how rigged this trial is.
So, ladies and gentlemen, to the live updates from the trial.
Let's rock and roll.
I really wanted to cover that.
Really wanted to cover that.
Uh, this, this morning and just get right, right into like what Donald Trump is facing because many are, you know, many are one of our favorite commentators, Jonathan Turley is comparing this to a trapped animal inside of a, like a rigged hunt, right?
Where like the animal has no way out.
So you're going to like, there's like ranges in Texas where like, you can go, you can go hunt a bison, but the bison's caged.
So it can only go so far.
And you're going to find it, and then you're going to be able to get it.
And this is what the judge has done now, trapping Trump and trapping the jury, who again has gone back and rang the judge three times to say, we don't really understand what the hell you've given us here as jury instructions.
In fact, before we get to Trump's comments today, I want to show you a corporate media, ABC News reporter, who outside of the courthouse is like, Nobody really understands why the judge won't just give the jury instructions to the jurors.
None of this makes any sense.
We've never seen anything like this before.
Outside of wantonly attempting to rig this trial, we don't understand what's happening.
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Check this out.
These are the instructions that the jury has to follow in Donald Trump's hush money trial before they can reach a verdict.
53 pages.
This is complicated.
This is lengthy stuff.
It took the judge over an hour to read it.
But guess what?
The jury doesn't get this in the room during deliberations.
They have to write questions.
They can write notes.
But they don't get these instructions.
In New York, both parties have to agree and the judge has to agree.
The point is to create confusion, to be able to browbeat the jurors, and to be able to exhaust them into one of the menu of options that the judge has given for the prosecution, persecution of Donald Trump.
With the intended and stated goal of locking Donald Trump in Trump Tower.
Because in the state of New York, as soon as a jury comes to guilty on any charge and the judge has said, you could just decide he's guilty on one of these three charges.
All I need is every juror to decide he's guilty on one of the charges.
You realize the game they're playing now?
So they never said the crime for Donald Trump.
They never, they're not charging with these, but the judge is saying Trump's guilty of these.
And all you have to do is like, every juror needs to just pick one of the three options.
And then I'll combine them all to say Trump's guilty.
It's wholly unconstitutional.
The Supreme Court should step in and stop this now.
Judge Mershon should be locked up in Guantanamo Bay.
This is so egregious.
We look forward to talking to Laura Trump about this again on the show.
We have multiple members of Congress.
It's going to be a wild show.
Ladies and gentlemen, before we're able...
To fill the entire day and bring you all the breaking news from this trial, we want to let the president speak.
Donald Trump is gagged.
Donald Trump is gagged, and the judge could well, if they come back with a guilty verdict, continue the gag on Donald Trump, stop him from speaking during the campaign for presidency, stop him from debating Joe Biden, right, or countering Joe Biden in a debate that's happening in less than 30 days.
And then the judge could lock him in Trump Tower.
He could say, okay, I'm not going to put you in prison, but I'm going to put you under home arrest.
You're going to be under home arrest for the entire rest of the campaign.
This could well be what the judge decides, and this may well be the play.
This is why the judge's daughter is filthy rich and gets hundreds of millions of dollars because this entire operation was hatched a couple years ago in order to bring these charges with this specific judge.
None of it's random.
And to lock up Donald Trump when he runs for president again.
This is what you're seeing playing out.
Now, before we get to Donald Trump quickly today, I spent the entire evening praying.
You should pray too.
If you are a believer, you should pray.
God is a God of miracles.
And he's also a God of truth.
And there has been no truth in this trial.
He brought known liars and literal demons up on the stand to testify against Donald Trump.
You should pray for a single juror.
All there needs to be is one juror.
Typically it's one crime, but it needs to be one juror to say he's not guilty of any of these crimes.
They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged, so I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly.
Some of the reviews from yesterday are the...
By the way, everyone's against this case.
I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law saying that this case should have been filed.
It should not have been filed.
Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago.
It's seven years old.
Everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down.
Southern District turned it down.
Bragg turned it down.
Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office.
Hillary Clinton, when she was running for president in 2016, paid for a lie, something called the PP dossier.
It was a rat's nest of lies about Donald Trump, her opponent in that race.
She laundered that to the press to rig an election.
To open up an investigation into Donald Trump, which was the intended result that resulted in the three-year-long Russiagate hoax, Robert Mueller, you might recall, that they found nothing.
And Hillary Clinton then, on her Federal Elections Commission form, where you have to itemize campaign expenditures like this, called this legal services.
Now...
Take all of that on his face.
I know we're getting a little far into it, and it might be a little boring to you, but I can show you articles here.
ALX, let's go ahead and grab an article on this.
This is not the right article, Klein.
I can show you articles of Hillary Clinton having to pay massive campaign fees and violation fees to the FEC for...
Doing exactly what they have Donald Trump on trial for right now.
Hillary Clinton had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and the DNC had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for incorrectly itemizing the PP dossier.
For doing precisely what they're trying to put Trump in prison for doing right now.
We don't talk about it enough.
They're going after Donald Trump.
For campaign finance violations, for attempting to influence an election by covering up a story and then incorrectly itemizing that in your expenditures.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is by definition what Hillary Clinton did with a far worse piece of odious pack of rats lies that they paid for about Donald Trump.
Through Christopher Steele, literally paying for Russian disinformation to smear Trump and spread that all about the media.
This is what Clinton did.
She hasn't caught a case for this and never will, presumably.
And the evil of it all, it makes your skin crawl.
The evil of it all makes your skin crawl.
How can we live?
How can the country continue at this pace?
Like, when the system is so Stalinist and so rigged against a nationalist movement that wants to put this country first by the literal demons here on your screen that are doing the exact same thing and never catch a case for it, and far worse.
The crimes of the Clintons, this is a misdemeanor.
The crimes of the Clintons, if you really want to see the beginnings of them, Then go ahead and read the Jeffrey Epstein documents.
Go see what they did in Haiti.
But here's just a good, this is a good appetizer for what the Clintons are guilty of.
Will they ever catch a case?
Will the Bidens ever catch a case?
Well, in a just country, yes.
But just a reminder of what they're doing to Donald Trump.
They said Joe Biden's too mentally unfit to be president.
So we're not going to charge him.
If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
And so here we are, ladies and gentlemen.
Is this bothering Donald Trump?
Does Donald Trump look worried to you?
Here, ladies and gentlemen, from yesterday is our first video ever of Donald Trump.
Inside of the courthouse.
There are no cameras allowed in the courthouse.
There are no photos allowed in the courthouse.
But Don Jr. decided in the sort of waiting pen that they locked Donald Trump in like an animal to post a really hysterical video from yesterday that's heartwarming and says a lot about the Trump family.
And we thought you'd enjoy it as well.
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Here we go.
I'm here with your favorite president.
We're cranking out a couple of mean tweets at the courthouse.
Why don't you read that last one?
Because I think it's pretty accurate.
Well, I think I'm going to put it out instead of reading it.
But I know my son's doing very well on social media.
So this was Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. together with, as we were able to investigate, a box of Milk Duds, some Lay's potato chips.
And Trump writing mean tweets behind the scenes at the court.
Donald Trump laughing and in good spirits and complimenting his son and saying his son's great at social media.
A beautiful sort of insight into the Trumps.
They're laughing.
They're smiling.
I don't know how they do it.
I don't know how they do it.
The point of all this, of course, is to humiliate and break a man.
And Donald Trump seems to be...
Now, what was the mean tweet that Donald Trump was sending?
Well, here's the post on Truth Social.
He was talking about Shannon Bream, Shannon Bream being a naive reporter and not being willing to admit that it is, in fact, Joe Biden who is running all of these attacks against Trump.
Alina Habba, friend of the show, was on Fox News yesterday.
And told Shannon Bream, who's the on-air legal personality, you know, this is like, these are Biden trials.
This is Joe Biden trying to lock up and cage his political opponent who's beating him in every single poll.
And Shannon Bream, to her great shame, we know Shannon Bream, she's great.
I mean, I lived in D.C. for 15 years.
We would run into Shannon Bream.
She's a very nice person.
But to her great shame, she did what every corporate media person does.
And I know this because I've worked for corporate media before and I've had shows on cable TV.
They engage in the hive mind boilerplate responses where they are not allowed to just see the evidence in front of their faces.
And they're not allowed to just, like, come to the conclusion.
Shannon, you should look at how many logs they have of state officials, Letitia James, Fannie Willis, visiting the White House and then tell me that...
So tell me how that's not an indication that Joe Biden, who just sent his campaign down here with Robert De Niro yesterday, isn't a part of this.
Frankly, any question that we had of that was squashed yesterday.
And if you have even more concerns about whether he's involved in this, look at the fact that he is publicizing, literally publicizing for tonight to have a speech if a verdict comes out.
Even though there is nothing but evidence laid before you.
This is why it's so important to not base your media companies out of Manhattan.
This is why Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox, along with Dan Bongino, along with Steve Hilton.
All the America First people were fired from Fox.
Ask yourself why.
You can't base your media company where the...
Pool of talent you have to pull from is the most Democrat district in America in downtown Manhattan.
Same with the jury pool here.
So while Shannon Bream, who's a very nice person, is doing that interview, a producer who most likely is intending on voting for Joe Biden, voted for Joe Biden in 2020, and is voting for Joe Biden in 2024, is in her ear saying, Joe Biden's not a fraud of this trial.
There's no evidence of that, right?
Can't just connect the dots.
Meanwhile, obviously, when Hillary Clinton produces and does far worse, produces a PP dossier saying that Donald Trump is a Russian agent, then all there is is connecting the dots.
Well, I mean, the document said it.
The dossier said Donald Trump's a Russian agent.
So, I mean, it must be.
It just stands to reason, right?
Donald Trump once said something nice about it.
Vladimir Putin.
He once had a vodka brand, Trump vodka.
So he must be a Russian nation.
The world can't continue like this.
It's why corporate media is failing.
It's why channels like ours are ascending.
And it's why we would never base our company inside the most Democrat district, our free speech America first company, inside the most Democrat district in America.
Fox News closes up shop in New York and moves to Nashville or something.
This is what they should do.
You should get out of these areas because the talent and the staffing, they're not going to be on your side.
You're going to have embarrassing moments like that.
However, there are some Trump supporters that are outside of the court.
You see Donald Trump smiling and happy in these videos.
Perhaps it's because Donald Trump sees these people when he leaves the courthouse every single day.
Here are some interviews with the Trump, MAGA, America First patriots out front of the courthouse, standing strong.
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I love this man.
He is innocent of all charges.
This is a judicial lynching.
He did nothing wrong.
He will be found innocent.
But even if he isn't, and he's railroaded by the Democratic Marxist Party, I will vote for him regardless of the outcome.
I'm with him 100%.
Tell me, what brings you out today?
I see the Trump hat.
Because I love Trump, and I love what he did for me and my people, black people.
He really helped us out.
What they doing right now, this is like really ridiculous.
Court cases and everything that they doing towards him is like trying to get him to be, they trying to just stop him from the momentum from winning the election, but it ain't happening, man.
We with Trump.
Black people, we really with Trump, though.
Like, that's just what it is.
A big part of the Biden campaign is he's advocating that he's for black America.
What do you say to that?
Biden ain't for no black America.
I lost everything since Biden been in.
I had a whole limousine business.
I had a whole car business selling cars, buying and selling cars.
That all went down the drain when Biden got in.
.
I don't get a free hotel like the immigrants get.
You know, so that is what it is.
I sleep in the car homeless.
Are you from New York City?
Yeah.
What do you say to politicians who think that there's no place for Trump in New York?
He had a rally recently in the Bronx.
We got to get them out of there.
We got to get them out of there.
And I ain't trying to say nothing too drastic or nothing, but it's time for them to get up out of here.
We got to start getting them out of here.
They don't do nothing for us.
AOC don't do nothing for us.
Well, I'm praying and hoping for a not guilty verdict.
I'm praying if he goes to jail, that will just increase his popularity.
It increases popularity and increases poll numbers because we are all behind him and we believe he's being railroaded and being, you know, judicially lynched, as I said.
This is a political persecution and I'm outraged.
They should be going after the real criminals in this city, the ones who are raping women, raping kids, committing murders, selling drugs.
Why are these people running around loose when Donald Trump is on trial?
I'm just so angry right now, I can't even express myself.
But whether he goes to jail or not...
I'm pulling the lever for Donald Trump.
Days for Trump.
I love the man.
Do you have any feeling about the outcome of this trial today?
The what?
Do you have any feeling about the outcome of this trial today?
I think more or less they're going to let him go.
I think that's what's going to happen eventually, yeah.
Do you think it'll help or hurt him politically?
I don't really think it would make much of a difference.
Okay.
Because, what they say, Michael Cohen, you know, I don't know.
If they put him in jail, then it'll make me pull the lever for Donald Trump even more.
Do you believe that?
Shout yourself out in the comment section.
Shout yourself out in the comment section.
We got a comment section rolling all day in front of us.
We are here for the chat.
Let me know.
If they put Donald Trump in prison...
Does it make you want to vote for him more?
In fact, ALX, let's pin a poll on the chat.
Chat is rip-roaring right now.
If they lock Donald Trump in jail, which is a possibility, they're doing everything they can to get it there.
Was that going to make you want to vote for him more or less?
I think you know my answer.
I think I know your answer.
But vote in our poll and let me know in the chat.
Jonathan Turley!
The Manhattan canned hunt.
The Trump jury is out, but the case is in the bag.
The canned hunt, ladies and gentlemen.
This is what one of our favorite political legal pundits and experts has to say about this.
What is a canned hunt?
The instructions of the case raised concerns that the deliberations could become a legal version of a canned hunt where the prey is trapped in a cage, fenced in areas.
To be dispatched.
Elements of the instructions are disturbing in reducing what is required to convict the former president, as we discussed.
Today, the jury began its deliberations in the trial of former President Donald Trump.
Before the jurors left, however, Judge Juan Mershon framed the deliberations in a way that seemed to be less like jury deliberations than a canned hunt.
For many of us, the Trump trial has seemed otherworldly, vaguely familiar proceedings where the common elements of the trial seem to be flipped.
Even before the jury instructions, the trial was controversial for both liberal and conservative commentators.
At the start, closing arguments, most honest observers were still wondering what the prosecutor's allegations of a crime were.
They didn't even understand what the crime was.
Then came the closing arguments around the country.
It is standard for the government to go first with closing arguments to allow the defense to respond.
The government was then given the privilege of a rebuttal after the defense rests.
In New York, the defense must go first, giving the government free reign over its closing with no risk of contradiction from the defense.
With the exception of objections, any abusive or improper arguments are left to the judges to address.
In the case of Juan Mershon, the protection was all but absent as the prosecution engaged in a flagrant violation from offering testimony, uh, unestablished facts to directly contradicting prior instructions.
In one of the most egregious moments, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass told the jury that it is an established fact that former Trump counsel, Michael Cohen committed a federal election law violation on the direct orders of Donald Trump.
Mershon repeatedly said that Cohen's earlier plea could not be used to imply guilt of Trump.
Mershon overruled an objection and Steinglass proceeded.
So that tells you this.
And this is, by the way, reporting from inside of the court.
Jonathan Turley's been there every single day.
Mershon did nothing, as Steinglass told the jury, that Hope Hicks cried in court because she knew that she had destroyed Trump's defense.
Hicks never explained why she cried.
Mershon did nothing, as Steinglass falsely told the jury that the media and the political campaigns do not want Trump to kill or plant stories.
This ignored, for example, that Clinton campaign did precisely and repeatedly the same thing throughout the election.
Second, the judge said that he would instruct the jury on the law, but then omitted the key elements and established that there was no federal campaign violation.
Indeed, a blocked legal expert, Ben Smith, former chair of the Federal Election Commission, was going to testify that this could not have been a federal election violation.
Moreover, even if Trump's legal settlement money could be viewed as a federal campaign contribution, it could not have been part of a conspiracy to influence the election.
A contribution could have occurred after the election.
Because that's exactly what happened.
Third, not only does the jury disagree on what occurred, but one of the three crimes is so circular that it is to produce vertigo in the jury room.
The prosecution zapped a dead misdemeanor back to life by claiming it violates violations under New York's election law.
The argument is that the crime committed to further another crime in an unlawful means to influence the election.
However, the other crime can be falsification of business records.
So the jury, or some jurors at least, could find that some documents were falsified and unlawful falsifying documents.
Is this getting confusing to you?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Vertigo is exactly the right term for this.
Finally, Mershon is allowing conviction based on general intent to defraud any person or entity, a dangerously vague concept in its novel criminal case.
Mershon is largely stuck to the standard jury instructions, but the case is anything but standard.
With ambiguous claims of influencing an election or general intent, the definition can be an invitation for total and complete bias.
Given the instructions and the errors in this trial, it would seem as if acquittal is almost beyond the realm of possibility that leaves either a hung jury or a conviction.
However, framing this case as a failure to protect the rights of the defendant and undermine perceived legitimacy of the proceedings, it...
And any possible verdict, Trump is in a tight cage.
Mershon just left it for the jury to deliver the coup de grace.
We will see.
He remains hopeful that the jurors will find a hung jury.
But there are jurors here that will say, and he has said this repeatedly today, Jonathan Turley, that he expects a hung jury here.
And that's not great signs when they're going back to the judge again and again and again.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we shall see an absolutely wild breakdown and an important moment, obviously, to recognize something.
That the entire system that we view as the American Republic stands to fall if you can simply prosecute your political opponent for non-crimes.
If you can put...
You're a political opponent in jail for nothing.
Then we no longer have a republic.
We're in something like very, very dark and very different from what you were told that this country was when you were being raised.
So what do we have in this country?
It's probably best to talk to a member of Congress about this.
the great congresswoman from South Carolina, Nancy Mace, joins the program now.
you you Congresswoman, I really appreciate you coming on the program today.
Given the fact that we still don't know what crime Donald Trump is committing here and that the Biden campaign is doing campaign rallies outside of the courthouse, at what point do you sort of throw your hands up and say, we just don't live in a republic anymore.
We live in something weirdly Stalinist and really dystopian.
Well, what you're seeing truly is an abuse of power, because whether, you know, whether it was a legitimate crime to prosecute or not, the feds decided not to.
Alvin Bragg doesn't have the jurisdiction to even have this trial going on right now.
And I believe that Joe Biden will do everything in his power through every tool that he has to ensure and guarantee and weight the scale so that Donald Trump can never be elected president.
And you have the left here.
You know, they're talking about, you know, Donald Trump is an affront to democracy, is a threat to democracy.
When, not if, but when Donald Trump wins, it is the epitome of democracy, because that'll mean that voters'voices were heard and that there is justice in the system.
Because right now we're all working very hard to make America great again, which was what we should be doing.
We also want to make the American justice system impartial again.
And while we're seeing this every day in the trial of Donald Trump, I have a very independent district, very purple district.
But what I'm hearing from independent people, they feel like it's the American people being prosecuted, the American people being abused, their rights being abused.
And this thing has massively backfired on Joe Biden.
And we want to keep it that way because we need to bring independent voters back into the fold.
We want them to make America great again with all of us.
And that's what's bringing them back into the Republican fold.
I had two town halls yesterday and a couple of press conferences.
I'm on the campaign trail right now.
And I had a voter come up to me who's independent, who left the party.
He's like, give me a reason.
Give me a reason to vote for Donald Trump.
And you explain all of the injustices that Biden is doing, the judges, the activists, activist judges, and the prosecutors who are political consultants for the DNC, how they're doing this and exposing the threat to the democracy is actually on the left.
And the independent voters, they don't care about the mean tweets anymore.
They just want to have good wages.
They want to have good jobs.
They want to prosper.
They want freedom.
And what they're seeing is that Life was better under Donald Trump.
And they don't want four more years of Joe Biden.
They have now had the opportunity to have two back-to-back presidencies.
And it's clearer than it's ever been before.
We were better off.
We were more prosperous.
We were more free.
There were not these endless wars going on all around the world.
Everybody was better.
Black, white, brown, male, female.
Everyone was better.
And that's what they're seeing today.
And then it's the injustice.
They're seeing, wait a minute, the left has told me for years Donald Trump was a threat to democracy, and yet Joe Biden's having Donald Trump thrown off the ballot, having him prosecuted by a state that doesn't have federal jurisdiction, and watching all the tampering going on.
I mean, Hunter Biden has a case coming up next week, and what was Joe Biden doing last weekend?
Meeting with Hallie, right?
Trying to tamper with the case and witnesses and all those things.
When you don't show up to testify, when we subpoena you.
You should be held in contempt and you should be hauled off to jail for that.
But instead, he made a mockery out of the system, which is what Joe Biden is doing.
It's the Biden family brand.
That is what they do.
They want to make a mockery out of the Constitution, out of Donald Trump and all the values that we stand for, all because they have a little TDS and they don't like some mean tweets, which is insane.
But people are slowly coming to their senses.
And I had a friend call a couple of weeks ago and they voted for Trump in 2016.
They didn't vote for president in 2020.
And they called and they said, we cannot have four more years of Joe Biden.
I'm back on the Trump train.
And by the way, a couple of my Democrat friends are going to join me.
They're not going to put it on social media, but we're all going to vote for Donald Trump in November.
And those are the people, Benny, that we have to go after and make sure they feel back at home in the Republican Party.
And they know all of the greatness that Donald Trump brings to the White House and the rest of the nation and the world.
ALX, my producer, can we get that tweet from yesterday where we show the Biden campaign rally versus Trump in Harlem?
So Joe Biden held the campaign.
You talk about...
Black, white Americans.
You're in a very diverse district.
Joe Biden is now desperately trying to appeal to black voters because they've totally abandoned him.
And he held a rally, if you can call it that, a rally yesterday where kids in Philadelphia were required to attend and it was completely and totally empty.
Yet Donald Trump's in Harlem and the overflow crowd is much bigger.
Then Joe Biden's entire rally yesterday reaching out and appealing to black voters.
Perhaps you could tell me how this erosion happened for Joe Biden.
And does he have a chance of winning back this demographic as as you regularly just pop it up?
Well, Joe Biden is losing black voters at about the same rate Donald Trump is gaining them.
And so when you see this kind of movement happening, people are waking up and they are, look at what Donald Trump did from the pardons to prison reform.
I mean, when he was president in December of 2018, he did a massive prison reform bill, which helped a lot of people and helped black Americans, helped women, all these folks.
And people are saying, look, Joe Biden, he's a lifelong racist.
He didn't want his kids raised in a racial.
Jungle, according to his words, and you ain't black if you don't vote Democrat, right?
And so I think black voters, I would imagine, are starting to wake up and say, what has the Democrat Party done?
They've made promises for decades, but what have they actually done?
And they're learning, they're looking at Donald Trump, a man who loves freedom, who loves the Constitution, and realizing that kind of freedom and liberty makes the educational system better, gives people higher wages, better jobs, better education.
All of it was better under Donald Trump.
And you're seeing that reflected in these rallies in New York.
You have authority as Article 1. You're the first article of the Constitution in Congress, your branch.
And so when you head back to Congress, according to this morning's Cook Political Report, Republicans are favored to keep the House and to win back the Senate, and Donald Trump is favored to be president.
Many in this audience and the chat right now are begging.
For congressional oversight over a system like this.
This would obviously, if you're saying this is a federal issue, I obviously agree with you.
What does that oversight look like from you?
You are obviously willing to confront Hunter Biden.
What would you do to this judge and this trial and this investigation?
How would you provide some type of resolution?
Because everybody is seeing how evil and corrupt and crooked this is.
Well, first, when it's all over and said and done, it is behind us and Donald Trump is president.
We'll have a huge opportunity to go back and look at every single step of the way of what was happening, what injustices were done, what abuses of power were done.
And then from that standpoint, when you have hearings, there has to be some sort of legislative component, policy or bill or change to the system to make it to have more justice, to ensure that the abuses don't exist.
And we've got to call these people.
And heads have to roll.
People have to get fired.
We have to do something in this country.
I'm sick and tired of having a hearing, making us feel good.
We're on the right side of history.
No, that is no longer good enough.
We have to actually take action and make sure this never happens ever again.
And that's going to take finding Republicans that are going to have a backbone and have to make some tough calls, make some tough decisions, and maybe even some tough votes and hear these stories because The left doesn't want to hear this.
They have Trump derangement syndrome.
It's a mental health issue with a lot of these people.
And they just can't contemplate the reality.
And we have to bring the reality with facts, not fiction, and throw it back, but actually do something.
I don't want to see us hold hearings and investigate and then nothing come of it.
Like Benghazi, right?
Somebody should have been fired or some people should have been fired.
And that's what my biggest frustration is right now with Congress is we all talk a good game, but what are we actually, what are we going to do about it?
I guess this leads to a question, which is enumerated by Donald Trump this morning in his comments, also by Jonathan Turley in his writings, that Hillary Clinton did this, but far worse.
So let's just focusing in on this crime.
She misallocated and misappropriated on her campaign finance forms the Russian dossier as a legal expense and then used it to smear Donald Trump in the media and planted that story.
And this is exactly what they're saying Donald Trump did.
Yet Hillary Clinton gets off by just paying a couple bucks to the FEC and it goes away forever.
Would you be open to looking more into some of the open criminalities of the protected class on the other side?
I think that's what generally would right the ship, is to learn that...
There's going to be a consequence for these styles of behavior?
But it's not just the campaign finance discrepancies, right?
I mean, she did worse with classified information, having it on the server in her bathroom, using bleach bit and a hammer to destroy devices, right?
I mean, purposely obfuscating information from an investigation so it couldn't be found.
I mean, she's done far worse than any accusation anyone's ever accused Donald Trump of doing anything.
And every accusation really is a projection here with the left.
All of it should be on the table.
What's the standard?
Hold everybody to the standard.
I've taken some tough votes, Benny.
I mean, I've gotten in trouble from here and there from time to time.
I get primary for it.
But I try to have the same standard no matter Republican or Democrat.
And we have to be better than the left when we do get back in charge.
We have to put our money where our mouth is.
We have to do what we say we're going to do regarding the border, which we didn't do a few weeks ago with the foreign aid bill, with inflation and spending, with all of these things.
But also, we've got to make sure that whatever the rules are, what the Constitution says, It is applied equally to everybody, and that fixes the problem, but that takes people with courage.
Despite everything that they're throwing at him, he wants to make sure that I'm doing okay and that I am going to win.
And that is the mark of a man that I haven't seen in my lifetime, right?
That he cares so much about his people and our country, that he wanted to check in with us and make sure we had everything that we needed to be successful, number one.
And then number two, the next five months, we've got...
We need to get people back into the fold to make sure that they vote and they vote for Donald Trump.
And that is the work that we're going to have to do on women, on African-Americans, black and brown Americans, making sure that it's not just a win in November.
First of all, my first question is, who bribed Hunter Biden to be here today?
That's my first question.
Second question, you are the epitome of white privilege, coming into the Oversight Committee, spitting in our face, ignoring a congressional subpoena to be deposed.
All they have to do is agree on that their meal was delicious.
Even though they didn't even taste everyone else's food.
Fill your plate with misdemeanors, whatever you want, and we'll call it a felony.
This is the first time we've ever seen a case like this in the history of the American legal system and three non-unanimous misdemeanors make a former president and convicted felon.
Now, it's not like they found Trump with gold bars in his closet like Gold Bar Bob.
It's not like Trump filmed his crime spree like Hunter.
If I don't understand it and our lawyers don't understand it, How do you think the jury feels?
Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch joins the program live now.
I know that there is some real heavy reporting on fast food prices going up.
But this dollar menu Trump crime situation is beautiful.
Beyond my capacity to understand it, Tom, please help me figure out how they can select the McChicken and the McDouble and then six nuggets and Trump's guilty.
As Jesse's pointed out and virtually every lawyer who's looked at it, of course, I'm looking at it.
As head of Judicial Watch, I'm not a lawyer, but I've seen enough of this to know what doesn't make sense.
And I took the time to read the jury instructions.
They're available on the court's website.
And it's a rigged set of instructions.
It's designed to get the jury to the result of a guilty verdict.
Now, the only good news from reading those jury instructions...
Is that because they're making up the law as they go along and there's no good faith basis to accuse them of any of the crimes listed, certainly there was no evidence behind it, and the logic doesn't fit in the sense that, you know, which crime is at issue when and how does it fit in with the underlying issue of messing with documents, none of which has been shown, let alone proven.
It's so confusing.
I could imagine a juror or two or three saying, I'm not doing this.
So, you know, that's the kind of the slim read I think Trump was probably hoping for, that it's so obviously convoluted and confusing that there's going to be a juror who says, well, you know, if I don't understand it, and they're supposed to make it so I do understand it.
Maybe there's something wrong here, and I'm not going to sign on to this rush to judgment by Judge Merchant, who demonstrates his anti-Trump bias in the way these instructions have been written and conveyed to the jury.
And throughout the trial, I just think the recap of the trial has just been...
Alarming, letting the government go last, not allowing any objections, letting the government have the final say.
Everything has been flipped, and the clear-eyed optimist, assuming that the American justice system is innocent until proven guilty, this seems to be the exact opposite.
No, and in my view, the fact that the jury is even considering these charges is like an indictment of the justice system and Judge Merchant's process.
Because in the ordinary course, after six weeks of a prosecution about nothing, a judge should have looked at the paucity of evidence and said, oh, well, there's nothing here to justify any guilty verdict, so I'm going to direct a verdict and tell the jury or direct the verdict, however one does that under New York law, to acquit President Trump.
But instead, He's not directing a verdict for acquittal, he's written the jury instructions in a way to almost ensure a conviction.
As I've been noting, it's the worst miscarriage of justice I've ever seen in American history, certainly in terms of a political prosecution like this.
And as far as I'm concerned, Robert De Niro...
I mean, everyone was kind of laughing and joking about his ridiculous performance.
And, you know, that's politics, right?
But if it were just politics, I'd be like, oh, yeah, it's just politics.
I go back to the beginning of the Clinton campaigns for his presidency where James Carville and George Stephanopoulos were out there suppressing so-called bimbo eruptions, smearing the women who were raising questions about what Bill Clinton was up to in terms of affairs and assault and such.
And then more recently, you had those 51 intel advisors, intelligence officials, deep staters, signing on to that fake letter about Hunter's laptop, trying to suppress that story, coordinated.
By the Trump campaign and Trump allies, excuse me, the Biden campaign.
Was that a reportable expenditure under the Federal Elections Commission?
If Trump is convicted, all bets are off in terms of prosecutions for all politicians who try to manipulate the media and don't report it on their FEC forms.
All sorts of local prosecutors can now begin.
But, of course, you know that's not going to be the case, right, Benny?
I mean, we say, well, if this happens, just think of what's going to happen to Democrats and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and Barack Obama.
Nothing's going to happen to them if the past is any prologue.
And so this is why I think Trump should commit.
And I would be public about it, you know, because I'm judicial watcher.
I say, you know, just tell people what you plan to do.
He should, if he wins the presidency or the next honest president.
I directly hire special counsel to investigate this abuse of him, this collusion, this conspiracy, to violate his civil rights and the civil rights of countless of other Americans under the color of law.
Yeah, so to that point, just talking about collusion, the true collusion here, this daughter of Judge Mershon, you don't have to be particularly high IQ.
I went to community college, but I'm alive and I notice things.
I'm a noticer.
And I'm noticing that she's making hundreds of millions of dollars from Democrats.
And that's not normally how political fundraising works.
Some 20-year-old who has no history in doing that doesn't suddenly get the biggest plum contracts for political fundraising from Democrats, particularly Democrats like Adam Schiff who are investigating Donald Trump.
And this seems like something that has been really orchestrated and kind of a mosaic that's been stitched together.
To get to this judge and to incentivize this judge to do everything possible, knowing that this would be one of the cases they'd need to bring against Trump, along with this judge also has Steve Bannon and Navarro and everybody.
Every big case that's brought in New York somehow goes to this judge.
In judicial robes, he's made donations to the Biden campaign, extreme left campaign organizations that are anti-Trump and pro-Democrat.
And of course, there's nothing wrong with the Biden campaign getting donations from anyone but judges.
And he violated the rules, and he's been dinged by the Judicial Commission.
It's been confirmed in the last week or so.
It's leaked out.
Of course, he hasn't released the letter.
He's the only one who can disclose it.
Saying that dismissed the complaint against him with a caution, meaning there was a finding, based on my understanding of the rules, that he did what he was accused of doing, but they just gave him a slap on the wrist.
He won't even release that letter.
So we have a confirmation he wasn't punished.
And frankly, the way the rules work in New York is if you break the rules, even with a letter of caution, You know, next time around, that cannon will be used against you.
So he broke the rules again, I think, repeatedly in the trial, most notably in his eruption and his breakdown over Mr. Costello's testimony.
Screaming, clear the courtroom, throwing the media out, acting in a way that's not in accordance with the judicial cannons, where judges, you know, Benny, you can start yelling and screaming.
I can start yelling and screaming.
But if I'm a judge on the bench, I'd be breaking the rules because decorum is required of judges.
And you can be forceful and you can enforce the rules, but to lose it is an ethical lapse by him.
His family using this trial to make a lot of money is well documented.
But what we're seeing now in these jury instructions is what seems to us, once again, just people with a pulse, right?
Observing things and noticing things seems blatantly unconstitutional.
Here, knowing that judicial watch is argued before the Supreme Court and you filed with the Supreme Court, you know the Supreme Court better than any, potentially, you know, any person in Washington.
Maybe you can sound off on this.
Here's the ruling that everybody's talking about this morning, Louisiana versus Ramos.
And in this ruling, they talk about unanimity in juries and what happens when there's a hung jury and what the...
What the stakes actually are, and nobody, this has been established law from the Supreme Court, yet Mershon seems to be defying the Supreme Court by saying there doesn't need to be unanimity.
You can just choose, you can choose the McChicken, McDouble, or the Chicken Nuggets, and I'll just mash them all together, right?
Yeah, I mean, the dispute is, do they need to have a unanimous conclusion about what law allegedly he was trying to violate in messing with the records?
Avoiding the issue of whether he messed with the records is there's no evidence he did so.
There's, you know, that's where you're kind of in this undiscovered territory and not something that our public and our legal system is used to that it effectively leads to.
And if it does lead to this, then it's unconscionable.
One juror can decide that he violated a rule, a law.
The other 11 jurors can think he violated another rule.
In the ordinary course, that disagreement that would lead to a hung jury.
So one juror, in effect, can convict Trump.
And that's not the way our system is supposed to work.
You don't have separate legal decisions or jury verdicts on separate crimes.
And not only is not a majority required, you don't even need more than one juror, in effect.
You just have to be caught going into a house illegally for other legal purposes, and you don't need to say what those legal purposes are.
But this isn't the same law.
The law is contingent on a disclosure and, frankly, a full explanation as to what law he was trying to violate through this alleged manipulation of records.
And the court has said there doesn't have to be a unanimous decision on what that law is.
And he went through the 444 analysis.
You have four jurors believe this was the law he was trying to violate.
It could be 1 versus 11, or 2 versus 10. So it doesn't make any sense.
And one of the laws is...
And this is what really struck me reading the jury instructions, is that there's a law that they can find him violating, which is messing with business records.
So they're being asked to find whether he messed with business records in order to violate a law to mess with business records.
That's Alice in Wonderland.
And frankly, I'm charitably describing the absurdity of the process there.
You know, and Merchant's taken over our presidential campaign.
He's already gagged the campaign.
He's gagged Trump, the candidate.
And he's effectively running our presidential election by...
Suppressing the ability of the number one candidate, former president, to go out there.
And he did it through illicit means, meaning allowing charges that he knew should never have been allowed to go forward, and further trying to rig the trial in the various ways that have been explained by you and so many others.
What's interesting about this, Benny, and you kind of watch the liberal media more than I'm able to, is how few in the left media are defending this process.
The silence is deafening.
I mean, you get your nutjobs out there that hate Trump and will say anything that don't care if he's drawn and quartered.
But most of the normal liberal media is kind of aghast at this process.
And maybe the federal courts will intervene to try to undo this quickly so our campaigns can proceed.
But my concern is that the campaign's already been compromised.
I mean, he's been held hostage politically for six weeks.
We've been held hostage, too.
America has.
And the question is, is that compromise of our campaign system, is it going to impact the final outcome in the election in the way that will undermine confidence in the outcome?
You'd have to just assume that we don't live in a republic anymore, right?
And we live inside of a power struggle with a fascistic entity that just will not relinquish power, and they just don't care.
The place can burn over the ashes, will rule over the ashes.
That's a true definition of evil.
Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch is somebody who actually does fight.
He's a bulldog.
Don't get into a fight with him.
You know, as you can see here, he'll knock you out.
But Tom Fitton is somebody who actually does legitimately try and keep this country free and safe by working through the judicial systems at Judicial Watch.
But I put something out yesterday and I said, you know, we have a compromised, a convicted judge.
He is dangerous.
This is a dangerous game.
I think that the left is playing.
I think this is reaching the highest levels in our government all the way to Joe Biden.
This is concocted between him, Alvin Bragg, and everyone else against Donald Trump.
Because they know the American people support Donald Trump.
The polls show it, that Donald Trump is going to be the 47th president, and they're going to do everything they can to try to damage and keep Donald Trump off the campaign trail.
I said it last week up there in New York.
It's election interference at its core.
They are so scared of this guy.
They are scared of Donald Trump.
And they're going to do everything they can to keep him off the campaign trail.
It's not going to work, Benny.
This is backfiring with that knucklehead De Niro up there yesterday.
They've been going after Donald Trump now for years.
They've gone after him for years.
They looked at Russia, Russia, Russia, his impeachment.
Donald Trump, understand America, Donald Trump runs on motor oil.
He's a machine.
Donald Trump is a machine.
I've never met a man, seen a man, be able to handle the stress that this far left has placed upon Donald Trump with all these different indictments, sham impeachments, all of it.
He just keeps bouncing back.
He has Teflon.
He has Teflon.
Everything bounces off Donald Trump.
And I agree with Laura Trump earlier.
She was on Fox News and said, you know, this guy, nothing phases him.
Nothing phases Donald Trump.
He loves this country.
He loves the American people.
And he's doing this for you and I, Benny.
He's doing it for you and I. He's doing it for our children, our grandchildren, and the future of this country.
He could just go home and live his billionaire life.
He doesn't choose to do so.
He does it because he loves this country, and that's why America loves him, and he's going to be the 47th president.
So then what does that look like for congressional oversight, sir, considering the fact that the Cook Political Report does say that Republicans will keep Congress for the first time ever this morning?
Along with take the Senate and deliver the White House for Donald Trump.
So it seems like the wind is at your back.
The odds are in your favor.
And many in this audience would say, well, you know, what are you going to do about it?
And what you've seen and I don't think we've done very well.
I'm just being honest with you.
I'm a Freedom Caucus guy.
And I love the fact that the American people gave us the gavel back and we've had the speakership now.
But look at how we've behaved.
You know, we got rid of a speaker and now we got a speaker that's, you know, everything we seem to do is done through with Democrat support.
So we can't accomplish anything on our own and everything is watered down because we need Democrats to support us.
And so I think we're in a little bit of trouble.
If the American people give us the gavel back or keep the gavel, I think we ought to behave.
We ought to behave and we ought to pass strong legislation.
In support of the president.
So if Donald Trump says we need to move in this direction as it relates to border security, inflation, energy, we need to follow suit and take that lead.
The dishonest media know they're the greatest threat to our country, but it's individuals like you and your listeners that are out talking to people and spreading truth.
And so we got to pray for our country.
Pray today for Donald Trump.
And let's just hope there's one clear-minded individual in that jury that will see this sham trial and this compromised judge for what it truly is.
The more that happens, the greater the possibility, ladies and gentlemen, that there is just going to be one juror, and that is what it's going to take.
One juror to just say, no, Donald Trump's not guilty on any of these things.
You can't even elucidate a crime.
You haven't even told us what crime he's committed.
The crime he committed was trying to kill a bad news story?
Like, every person on Earth?
Who's ever run for politics or has ever been famous?
Ladies and gentlemen, it is an absolutely rigged trial.
And this is what's at stake.
What's actually on trial here is the American system.
What's actually on trial here is the future for your family, your children.
And the true verdict will be on November 5th of 2024.
Now joining us in just a moment is going to be the great Carrie Lake, who's running to help flip the Senate red.
Carrie Lake joining the program momentarily.
Ladies and gentlemen, last night, Eric Trump, who has stood so strongly beside his father, and who is not a deeply, not a man who's prone to, he's a very, like, sound, very confident, very in control man.
Eric Trump showed last night some emotion on Fox News.
Eric Trump saying, It's like to watch your father go through all of this, but there's a happy ending here.
No one believes that $130,000 from eight years ago for a perfectly legal NDA booked a legal expense to a personal longtime lawyer booked as a legal expense.
is a crime where a former president and the frontrunner for a Republican Party is charged with 34 felony counts.
Well, I can say from my own experience what I've learned...
Call me naive.
I studied history growing up.
My dad was a history teacher.
And I thought that we had a right to step forward and run for office as citizens.
We need more citizen politicians.
And I can tell you from my experience, when I stepped into the arena...
Maybe I was naive in thinking that.
I learned very quickly that, no, indeed, you can't.
If you are not a pre-approved candidate by the swamp, they will do everything to try to bring you down.
And thankfully for President Trump, I'd seen what happened to him, the eight-year smear campaign they've led to try to do a character assassination on one of the greatest men in our history, one of the greatest fighters in our history.
Had I not known what they had done to President Trump, I probably would have given up.
But then I realized very early on, they're doing the same thing to me that they've done to President Trump because they are so afraid of outsiders who are not controlled by the system, who they don't control the vote and the policy of that person.
That person is working for we the people.
And so we've watched this as President Trump has been attacked relentlessly.
You just showed that clip of the amazing Eric Trump, one of the...
One of the awesome children that President Trump has raised.
And the whole family's been dragged through the mud for eight years because they're trying to stop him.
They're so afraid he's going to get in there and bring down this corrupt system.
And thankfully, he is going to get in there and do exactly that.
And we're watching these really evil people on the last throes of their control and power.
I'm so happy that you were able to join the program today because I wanted to speak about a certain element that they are trying to manipulate and weaponize against Donald Trump in this prosecution, which is he killed a bad story about him.
Now, you have a long and history career in media and in press, and that is what you did for the better part of the last 30 years?
Yeah.
And this is how the people of Arizona know you and love you.
Is it normal for celebrities or politicians or powerful people or literally anybody to just simply try and prevent a bad news story from coming out about them?
Because in the trial, the government and the state of New York attempted to tell the jury that this isn't normal and that they'd never seen anything like this.
Well, I didn't work for tabloid news, but you know, in the grand scheme of things, I'm looking at all of the mainstream media, and maybe it is all tabloid, because frankly, it's a bunch of propaganda.
I will tell you this, I mean, we will get wind that a reporter is working on a story, maybe on our campaign, and we find out it's a lie, it's bogus, it's not truthful, and we call that reporter and we call him out.
Now, what would you say that we're killing a story?
No, we're trying to get things factual and make sure that they're on the up and up.
But I mean, you know, it's interesting, Benny, in just the last couple of hours, the jury asked to have some of that testimony repeated to them from that publisher.
And I don't know the exact wording of it, but that publisher basically said, look, President Trump at the time, Donald Trump said he didn't want to do that because it always gets out.
That kind of stuff never stays quiet.
It always gets out if you do that.
But I will I will say in tabloid news, I'm assuming that's quite common.
It has been dirty, but you know, I ran for governor.
We ran an incredible race, started an amazing movement here in Arizona.
That movement is still going strong.
I'm inspired by President Trump's tenacity, his unwillingness to flinch, his unwillingness to show any weakness and give in to these really...
On American people who are trying to drag him down.
And so he's inspired me.
We're running and we're running a great race right now.
We're running against somebody who I call him a Joe Biden mini-me.
Can you imagine?
I mean, Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country.
Now imagine him being 40 years younger.
And having, you know, 40 more years in the tank, I just can't even fathom it.
But that's what I'm running against, a guy who has been aligned with Joe Biden 100% of the time.
And he's 40 years younger than Joe Biden.
He's against the border wall, called the dumb and stupid.
He's pro-sanctuary city.
He wants to give everybody invading our country citizenship and asylum and voting rights.
I mean, can you imagine 12 million people right now pouring into our country, all of them getting voting rights?
That's the only way, frankly, this destructive Democrat regime can win, is if they coax these people who are pouring across our border to vote for them.
And so we're in a battle out here.
We've got to get the Senate for President Trump.
We're going to see President Trump return to the White House.
It's going to be the greatest thing for the United States of America.
He needs to have the majority in the Senate, however, because as you know, And imagine for a second,
I don't mean to get people down or give you like a horror show here, but...
Imagine Chuck Schumer and the Democrats control the Senate.
First of all, none of those appointments will get through.
They will try to impeach President Trump within three to six months and drag our country through hell.
So this is incredibly important.
There's no path to victory.
Without Arizona, we are at ground zero for so many of the big issues of the day.
Obviously, the border crisis is huge, the economy.
Very few places in America have been affected as much as Phoenix, Arizona, which is right there where my opponent, Ruben Gallego, is the sitting congressman.
He has the fastest-growing homeless population in his district.
That's his vision for the entire state of Arizona, get people destitute, in despair.
On drugs and feeling that there's no hope.
And so we need to get him out of Congress, retire him from Washington, D.C., and bring about some true American patriots into Washington, D.C. President Trump, myself, and many others are running right now.
And I'm excited.
I'm excited for what lies ahead for America once we get through this really ugly chapter of watching the deep state throw this hissy fit as they go down.
And one of the most shocking legal filings I've ever seen in my life, outside of maybe this Trump trial, is a legal filing from the Biden DOJ against the state of Arizona.
I think we can grab and pull it up.
It's pretty easily searchable.
Saying, no, you're not allowed to ask people if they're American citizens to vote.
Isn't it interesting that the government is fighting because they want to have people here illegally vote?
I mean, everything's just being, people's eyes are opening up right now to how corrupt the government is.
You're looking at this.
We're fighting.
We've got several lawsuits that are in the works.
We have to go through the courts.
Unfortunately, that's our only means of being able to fight this.
And while we're not always taking a victory every time, we are exposing what they are doing.
You know, our court case, when they...
Rigged Election Day and sabotaged, frankly, Election Day, taking the sacred vote and trampling it of the citizens of Arizona.
Everyone knows it's a fraud.
I mean, everyone knows that even the people who are sitting in these offices, they all know what happened on the election in 22 here in Arizona was fraudulent and wrong.
And so we're continuing to fight it and we're exposing it.
You know, sometimes the court of public opinion is more powerful than in the corrupt courts.
Look at what's happening to President Trump.
Nobody could look at what's happening in New York City and say that Judge Mershon is fair.
Is ethical.
Nobody could do that.
If you are honest with yourself, nobody can say that.
We've had that same problem here in the courts in Arizona.
People who aren't ethical, people who aren't courageous to do the right thing, but we're exposing what they did.
When we showed that video of them rolling out the machines...
Without the media present, without observers present, tearing off the security tape on all of the electronic machines, pulling out the memory card, reinserting a new memory card, and then rolling those machines out on election day, where 60% of the polling locations failed, the machines didn't work.
That's unacceptable.
And we've shown the people how that happened.
We're giving them fewer ways to cheat, basically, because once you reveal and show people how they cheated, Very quickly, they have to come up with new ways.
And I'm not saying they won't come up with new ways, but guess what they're going to have to go up against?
Massive, huge voter turnout, unlike anything we've ever seen before.
We are going to see people who haven't voted in their entire lives show up to vote.
And as President Trump says, we'll make it too big to rig and we will swamp them.
My advice to President Trump, my advice to Joe Biden is, ooh, I don't know, probably don't do it because he's not going to do very well.
But I don't think President Trump needs any advice.
He's going to go in there.
His instincts are so good.
I think he's got, not only is he a high IQ, but he's got high social IQ.
And we've seen it in his past debates.
All those other candidates would go in and test out the podium and check out what the lay of the land was.
And he just showed up and instinctively knew.
How to deal with the people.
And we watched as he knocked down and defeated, I think it was, what, 18 different opponents, and then he took care of Hillary Clinton as well.
So I think he's going to be great.
You know, Biden has destroyed our country.
President Trump left it in pretty good shape.
He left it in great shape other than COVID, but we know there's a lot of shenanigans behind COVID as well that he could probably call out Biden on.
So I think he's going to be great.
I'm looking forward to debating my opponent, Ruben Gallego.
I wonder if he'll have the courage.
I've already challenged him to one debate, and within 10 minutes he said no.
This is the Democrat playbook, Benny.
They roll out candidates who are...
They control.
They aren't good.
They have no policy.
They hide in the basement.
They cower.
And then they have little things they try in the election to get them elected.
But I think this go-around, they're going to have a harder time.
They can't do the 3 a.m. vote drop.
They can't do the sabotage of Election Day.
More people are going to show up, vote early, vote on Election Day than we've ever seen in our country.
And this is the reason they're trying to use lawfare now.
To go after President Trump in four different jurisdictions.
They're trying to lock him up for life.
They're coming after me with lawfare.
I've got a bunch of, you know, a dozen Soros-Obama linked attorneys that are coming after me for telling people.
How this election was rigged.
And they're going to come after every one of us.
If the people don't stand up right now, I'm encouraged, by the way, when I see these celebrities finally and others who are saying, yeah, I'm voting for President Trump.
We're starting to see the tipping point where it's coming back around and it's going to go fast and people are going to start being emboldened to say I'm voting for Trump.
I'm voting for Lake.
I'm voting for America first.
We want to take our country back.
And as soon as that happens and businesses start saying, heck yeah, we're America first.
And if we lose a couple of customers over it, we're okay with that.
The sooner we get to that point, the sooner they realize there's no way they can rig this thing.
It will truly be too big to rig.
So I encourage everyone to go out, wear your MAGA hat.
Go out, be proud to be America first, and be proud to stand up for the president that we have and President Trump who's willing to fight for we the people.
We're so lucky to be here at this moment in history, Benny.
We're so lucky to have a fighter like President Trump.
But to imagine that...
Are you thinking I'm going to let you get a word in, by the way, Benny?
It should send a shiver down the spine of everybody in New York and frankly, everybody across the country, especially in these corrupt cities and municipalities and counties.
Now, I don't say just states because there's red states with big blue cities in them that are corrupt.
Everybody who owns a business, whether it be a small business, a large business, or who is CEO or CFO of a corporation, this case should send a shiver down your spine.
We're talking about a bookkeeping dispute.
One line of a bookkeeping dispute that could send a man to prison for life.
A bookkeeping dispute that comes with a lifetime sentence.
This is a time for everyone to stand up and say enough is enough.
And when they realize that the people are not with them in such huge numbers, this is when we finally get to take our country back.
And I've always been very outspoken for President Trump, who in that first term, when he was doing so much for our country.
People didn't have the boldness and courage to step out and speak out before him.
I remember he'd invite people to the White House, a company to the White House, and a company would show up and immediately the trolls on Twitter, and we all know that they were probably paid trolls, would go after that company and try to cancel people.
And that's when I wish we would have stood up and said, cancel me, I don't care.
I'm supporting this man because he's putting our country first.
But it's taken a while.
We've built up, and the straw that broke the camel's back is different for everybody.
For some people, it was watching that kind of censorship and control.
They didn't like it, and they spoke out.
For others, it was COVID when they had to force masks on our children and took them out of schools and forced shots in our needles in our arms and all of that.
For some people, they're just now waking up when they go to Taco Bell and they find out it's $100 to buy a meal for your family.
That could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
But one thing is certain.
They want us so talking about these ridiculous cases.
Because they don't want us talking about the invasion on our border.
They don't want us talking about the millions of people pouring across, taking housing from citizens here who need it.
They're boosting up the price of rent.
They don't want us talking about the fact that hardworking Arizonans, Americans, and taxpayers are footing the bill for these people's housing, giving them job permits so they can drive our wages down, food, clothing, shelter, health care.
We are paying for that.
And they don't want us talking about the economy that Joe Biden has sent straight into the toilet.
And they don't want us talking about the wars that are starting up.
And they don't want us talking about what's happening to our children with this brainwashing that's going on and absolute mutilation of their perfect bodies.
That's what they don't want us talking about.
And that's why they're trying to distract us.
And we have to keep a laser beam focus going the next six months.
Because if we think it's going to end with this distraction, it's going to be a circus out there.
They're going to throw everything against the wall, fake polls.
There was a poll that went out this morning that they're trying to say that Biden's going to beat Trump.
These are PSYOPs.
Somebody called them a PSYOP.
I said that's a perfect name for it.
It's an operation to try to change the narrative and make people think that we're not in the driver's seat.
We the people are in the driver's seat right now.
We the people are winning.
This is not a 50-50, 51-49.
The massive numbers of people for America First, for President Trump, for candidates like myself, we are more in the 60%, 70%.
I want you to know the media has given me 100% negative coverage.
The mainstream media has.
And it's because they're afraid of me.
They know that this fed-up mom from Arizona...
Is working for we the people.
They've tried to bribe me.
They've tried to blackmail me.
They don't like people that go to Washington, D.C. that they can't control with bribery and blackmail.
And they can't control me.
The people of Arizona will own my vote.
Not the lobbyists in D.C. I lay out my policy.
It's not extreme.
It's not far right, as they like to say.
It's common sense.
And they have to...
Put those names and descriptors on it to try to scare people.
I want a secure border.
I want a border wall.
The people of Arizona want that.
We're going to repatriate all of the people who come in during the Biden invasion.
We will repatriate them back to their homeland in order to save our homeland.
I want to make sure housing is affordable again for young people so that they can get out and start.
If they work hard, they can have access to the American dream.
I want a world-class education for our children that we have control of, that we get to choose.
And that means our tax dollars follow our children, I want energy independence so that whenever we go to fill up our gas tank, it's affordable.
We can hit the road and not worry about them not being able to afford groceries that night for dinner.
And we can cool our homes or heat our homes and not go into the poorhouse doing that.
Real basic stuff.
It's all there at CarrieLake.com.
And make a donation if you can afford it.
I only ask that if you can afford it.
I know we're living in the Biden economy and it's a struggle for a lot of people.
This is an important race.
This is incredibly important even if you're outside of Arizona.
Like I said, we are going to be the backup for America First policies to get through.
If we don't have the Senate.
This could be very bad.
Ruben Gallego said he will get rid of the filibuster.
He will vote immediately to push abortion up until nine months.
He said this, by the way, many times in interviews.
He'll get rid of the filibuster to stack the Supreme Court.
He'll get rid of the filibuster to make Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. states, which would give us four more forever liberal senators, and our country will be gone.
We must defeat Ruben Gallego, a man who marches and defund the police rallies and is the most radical Democrat to run in this cycle and probably in any cycle in our lifetime.
You can call it like a clown car, tire fire, dumpster fire.
Doing our best to come up with some type of pejorative that really elucidates what's going on in Manhattan.
And if there's one person that could probably come up with a better descriptor for what's going on in New York's court right now with Donald Trump in the icebox, well, it would be the Iceman himself, Mike Davis, who joins the program now.
President Trump knows that he is getting railroaded in New York by this corrupt Manhattan judge, Juan Marchand, whose adult daughter, Lauren Marchand, is raising millions off of this case, requiring his recusal.
President Trump cannot mention Lauren Marchand's name, or Judge Juan Marchand has threatened to throw him in prison.
Trump's campaign can't mention her name.
Trump's campaign can't even post.
A news story from even the New York Times mentioning Lauren Michonne's name or President Trump goes to prison.
President Trump also can't mention Matthew Colangelo's name.
Matthew Colangelo is this former senior Obama and Biden political appointee, political hack, DNC political hack, who got deployed from the number three office in the Biden Justice Department to Soros-funded Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's office to resurrect.
This zombie case against Trump from seven years ago for the non-crime of calling a legal expense a legal expense.
They did not even explain to the jury, this Judge Mershon, Colangelo, and Brack have not explained to the jury, let alone the defendant, what the legal allegations are.
How the hell can a criminal defendant defend himself if he doesn't even know what the legal allegations are during his trial?
And then this judge, this corrupt...
This judge who illegally donated to Biden, which got him reprimanded by the New York court system several months ago, we just learned, and whose daughter is raising millions, requiring his recusal.
This judge instructed the jury they don't even have to unanimously agree what the crime is.
They can just make up whatever crime they want.
I mean, this is insane.
This is what happens in third world Marxist hellholes like North Korea and Zimbabwe and now in Manhattan.
So that, I want to jump into that question alone, because it seems to defy Louisiana versus Ramos in the Supreme Court.
We have the ruling here.
We don't pretend to be, well...
I went to Kirkwood Community College in Iowa and the University of Iowa.
I don't pretend to be some type of scholar for the Supreme Court.
Yet, even I have a functional brainstem and a pulse and can read this ruling where the Supreme Court says very clearly and concisely, you must have unanimity in juries to convict.
Otherwise, it's a hung jury and the accused walks free that second.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, Mike, for just ruling.
You're somebody who has a great history with the Supreme Court.
Can you talk me through how this isn't unconstitutional?
Well, Ben, as you know, I also went to the University of Iowa and I clerked for Justice Gorsuch on the Supreme Court of the United States.
And that's the same Justice Gorsuch who wrote Ramos v.
Louisiana in 2020.
And that case is very clear.
The case says that...
In order to convict a criminal defendant, you have to have a unanimous jury on all the essential elements.
And that applies not only to federal cases, it applies to state cases.
Because before, you had states like Louisiana that did not require unanimous jury verdicts in order to convict a criminal defendant.
And my boss, my former boss, Justice Gorsuch...
It wasn't your typical liberal and conservative lineup.
The Chief Justice, Justice Alito, and Justice Kagan dissented on that case.
You had Gorsuch teaming up with Kavanaugh and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and so does Sunday Mayor, and I think Justice Kennedy was on that as well.
So it wasn't your typical lineup, but it shows that Justice Gorsuch has understood for the decades that I've known him.
I would just warn these people, remember...
That President Trump is very likely going to win election on November 5th, 2024.
And his Justice Department is going to be back.
The Trump 47 Justice Department is going to be up and running on January 20th, 2025.
Do these Biden Democrats inside and outside of government, like Andrew Weissman, for example, do they really want a politicized?
And weaponized justice system?
Because guess what?
I can think of a lot of different ways that the Trump 47 Justice Department can hold President Biden and these Democrat prosecutors and judges and witnesses and operatives accountable in D.C., in New York, in Atlanta, what they're doing down in the Southern District of Florida.
So let's keep playing this game.
I think it's going to be great.
This lawfare is going to put President Trump Back in the White House, and I can't wait for his Justice Department to roll up its sleeves.
Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio just sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department on Judge Mershon and Alvin Bragg and Matthew Colangelo and these Biden Democrat goons in New York who are violating...
With President Trump's constitutional rights, with their illegal unconstitutional gag orders, with their violation of his equal protection, with the violation of his due process rights.
And you can just add this to the evidence, what they're doing with this jury instruction.
Judge Juan Mershon is participating in a criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C.
241 and 242.
Very serious federal civil rights.
And Judge Juan Bershon is participating in this criminal conspiracy against President Trump.
There will be accountability come January 20th, 2025.
There is going to be...
I'm going to advocate very strongly from the outside as Trump's vice role, because I can't get confirmed as AG, that the acting attorney general opened a criminal probe on this blatant...
Criminal conspiracy against President Trump.
His top aides like Peter Navarro, who's in prison right now.
Steve Bannon, who's heading to prison.
His attorneys like John Eastman and Jeff Clark, his supporters on January 6th.
This is an obvious criminal conspiracy driven by Joe Biden himself.
Through his deputy White House counsel, Jonathan Hsu, who worked with Gary Stern, the General Counsel of the National Archives, and Jay Bratt at the Justice Department to orchestrate the Mar-a-Lago raid, which led to Jack Smith's two indictments against Trump for January 6th and the Mar-a-Lago for presidential records under the Presidential Records Act that Trump is allowed to have with Nathan Wade,
Fannie Willis' Big, dumb, unqualified boyfriend billing his time to Fulton County taxpayers for his two meetings with the Biden White House, including the Biden White House Counsel, 16 hours, $250 an hour to collude with the Biden White House before Big Fannie brought her big, dumb indictment.
Down in Georgia, you have Matthew Colangelo deploying from the Biden Justice Department to Bragg's office to bring this bogus case in New York.
This is a criminal.
Conspiracy against President Trump and so many others.
There will be severe legal, political, and financial consequences to that.
And to the three people who remain at Media Matters, mark my word on this.
Mike Davis promises accountability, promises to do to us.
A scintilla of what we're doing to them, which is the more you look into the Hillary Clinton Russian dossier, the more you realize like, wait a second, why the hell isn't this lady rotting in prison?
Because this is everything they're trying to charge Trump with.
Yeah, that's the whole reason for this lawfare and election interference, Ben, is because they know that Trump declassified those damning crossfire hurricane Russian collusion records the day before he left office.
The CIA, the FBI ran to Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, and said, you're going to violate the Criminal Privacy Act.
You're going to put sources and methods in danger.
Mark Meadows said, okay, do your Privacy Act review.
Is there kind of like a hospice, but also a prison?
I'm not sure.
But it does seem like that's what Joe might need.
If he's even able to understand what's going on, which we don't think he is.
We know that this is all run by his DOJ, Mike.
Yet, what many handicappers are saying is that Juan Mershon may well, if they are able to trap Trump with all these rules and confuse the jury into a guilty verdict here, that he could put Trump on house arrest in New York.
And that he could continue to gag Trump and say, I'm taking the high road by not putting you in jail.
What do you think would happen if the unthinkable happens here and they come back with a guilty verdict?
They effectively just prevent Trump from campaigning.
I dare Judge Juan Mershon to do that, because guess what?
Right now, President Trump...
Is winning by two points.
If this bogus, corrupt, partisan rigged trial results in a criminal conviction in New York, Trump's going to win by like four points.
If this corrupt Judge Mershon, whose daughter is raising millions of dollars off of this criminal trial over which her father's presiding, requiring his recusal under New York statute, and that's not just me, a former...
Federal Clinton judge went on Caitlin Collins' show on CNN on April 5th and said he had to recuse.
If he tries to put Trump under house arrest or prevent him from campaigning for president, Trump's going to win by like six points.
It's going to be an utter blowout election.
They're going to turn Trump into Nelson Mandela.
And remember, Judge Mershon, preserve your documents.
You are participating in a federal criminal conspiracy against...
President Trump's constitutional rights with your illegal unconstitutional gag order by ignoring Ramos versus Louisiana on the fact that this jury has to be unanimous on all essential elements.
You are part of a criminal conspiracy, Juan Mershon, and there must be accountability.
And J.D. Vance's criminal referral lays out this very, very well.
I actually think this process is so part of Partisan, corrupt and rigged that they're going to come back and find Trump guilty.
Maybe not of all these charges, but guess what?
Even if it's a hung jury, guess what happens?
They immediately retry Trump.
They keep Trump in this dingy courtroom, unconstitutionally gagged, instead of on the campaign trail for the next three months.
I almost wish they would just find him guilty so Trump can get this damn thing eventually reversed on appeal.
Maybe he should just file a habeas petition directly.
If the New York court system ignores him, file a habeas petition with the Supreme Court of the United States if they try to confine him or if they try to restrict his ability to campaign for the White House.
But I will say this, the American people are not going to accept this illegitimate.
You're already seeing it in the polling.
You're seeing that during this trial, President Trump's polling has gone up, particularly among black men.
Right now, Black Americans make up 13% of the population.
They vote 95% Democrat.
People always say Republicans are never going to win the Black vote.
You take a population that has been raised assuming that the judicial system is rigged against them and you prove it by locking up the guy whose best friends are a bunch of rappers and giving them a mugshot.
Yeah, because these Biden Democrats actually believe their own BS and they actually are this Trump deranged and they can't see clearly and their judgment is so clouded and they're so smug and arrogant and out of touch with real Americans in real America.
He has clearly violated President Trump's civil rights.
He's corrupted.
He should have recused from this case his daughter's...
Making money.
She's raising millions.
She gets a percentage of that.
He knows that.
When Trump raised this recusal issue, he retaliated against President Trump by expanding this unconstitutional gag order where he's threatened to throw Trump in jail if he mentions Lauren Marchand's name or his campaign mentions Lauren Marchand's name.
That is a federal civil rights violation in itself, and there are so many others.
Judge Juan Marchand deserves to go to prison after January 20th, 2025.
What's wild, Mike, is I'd normally say, we've known each other for a long time, I'd normally say the media wouldn't be on your side here, but I've seen a shocking number of people refuse to defend this process in the corporate press.
From places like MSNBC and CNN, you brought up a number of CNN interviews.
It actually almost feels like you would have, in a second Trump term, you'd have tacit support for something like this.
What he's referring to, what Mike Davis is referring to there, and we're tight on time, so couldn't play it for Mike, but is this clip, Andrew Weissman saying he has a man crush on the judge in the Trump trial.
This is the guy who was on the Mueller investigation, who many argue ran the Mueller investigation because when Robert Mueller got a chance to talk, he sounded just like Joe Biden.
The guy clearly had dementia.
So he ran this guy that ran Russiagate.
So, ladies and gentlemen, it's all happening all over again.
They're doing everything they can to prevent Donald Trump from being president.
They did this in 2016.
Now, today, you're starting to see that Access Hollywood tape come back up.
They're going to pull every single stop.
I just, there's something that is happening.
There's a force that's occurring right now that wasn't, that we didn't have in 2016, which is the black hole of Joe Biden and the optimism that Donald Trump brings to the kind of, I think, polls show, by and large, like, polls show unanimously, demonstrably, that people just don't care about this stuff.
That people are on the side of the Trumps, the Trump family, and that they can see themselves in these shoes.
We're all parts of this rigged system.
And anybody who's ever had to deal with the IRS knows that.
You're all part of a rigged system.
People are sick of it.
Don Jr. making that exact point last night, talking about his father and talking about what's happening, what's going to happen next.
You can lie about everything, Eric, but on this one you should believe him.
I mean, it's asinine, but people understand that it's a show trial.
It's a show trial to try to help the Democrats.
It's the epitome of election interference.
They're trying to do whatever they can.
To help Joe Biden, to hamstring Trump, anything.
When elections are won, you know, in the margins, these little tiny basis points, they're trying to allow it that the Democrats can have any sort of upper hand.
That's clear in the venue, not just here, but in all of the other cases.
They choose the venue.
They choose the prosecutors.
It just never ends.
It's not a coincidence that this very judge also gets the Steve Bannon case, also got the other cases for conservatives.
It's like this is the guy whose daughter is fundraising and making millions off of it.
Who's going to take and look at all of these things?
Yeah, so there is going to be a massive, massive backlash against all of this.
You've seen it already.
You saw it last week with Donald Trump's Harlem rally.
But what will happen in the judicial system, somebody who's argued before the Supreme Court, somebody who's been quite a champion on legal issues, Ted Cruz sounding off last night saying Donald Trump's going to obviously win this thing, will obviously win this thing on appeal, but there needs to be major consequences, sort of echoing what Mike just said.
That the judge today committed, I think, clear reversible error.
These jury instructions were nonsense.
Now here's the bad news.
The bad news is this has been a kangaroo court from the beginning.
This is a wildly partisan prosecutor who hates Donald Trump, who came with a political objective of going after Donald Trump.
And we now know from these jury instructions that this judge is every bit the partisan that the prosecutor is.
And he knows this is reversible error.
As you noted, Ramos v.
Louisiana clearly held in 2020 that every element of the crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, must be unanimous by the jury, and yet this judge says it doesn't matter, not in New York.
The Constitution does not apply in New York, which means if we get a conviction, it will be reversed on appeal.
But the judge doesn't care.
The prosecutor doesn't care.
Nobody cares because this is not about law.
This is not about criminal justice.
This is about politics.
This is all about the press conference, the national address that Joe Biden has scheduled to give from the White House where he gloats, we've now convicted Donald Trump.
This is all about November.
We are watching election interference.
This is the most blatant case of election interference that we've ever seen in our country's history.
I'm surprised that some other networks have said, look, this is really great news that they sent this out.
I got to tell you, as a criminal defense attorney, I would not view this as...
Clearly good news for the prosecution.
The only reason why a jury would send out a request to hear the instructions again is if there's a disagreement about what the instructions are.
That indicates that there may be a conflict with jurors in that room about what their standard is, how they're supposed to look at the evidence.
There's various reasons why these particular parts of the testimony would be demanded by the jury.
This is a rather intriguing one.
The judge told the jury that if Cohen lied to any material fact, the jury could disregard all of his testimony.
Now, he noted that that means that you have to look for corroboration of Cohen, because he is someone who obviously is not just a serial perjurer, but he's an accomplice.
So they happen to have requested the Trump meeting, which the government cited as corroboration for...
So it may have been that they started logically and say, first of all, can we consider anything that Michael Cohen has said?
Just find the guy guilty, and then we'll crush you after we win.
Donald Trump is taking a winning attitude.
By releasing political ads in the middle of this trial.
So once again, Donald Trump is legally required to stay at the courthouse while the jury's in deliberation.
So he's sitting there in the icebacks, as they call it, with his milk duds and his Lay's potato chips, what was in the video yesterday from Don Jr., approving ads be released.
Here is fresh off the presses, released just minutes ago, and are excellent.
Executive producers were able to get it clipped and cleared.
Nothing you can't, nothing you can't tell me to stop Nothing you can't tell me to stop Oh, that ad is pure fire.
Donald Trump walking in like a fighting champion, somebody who has been in the arena and who has an incredible background playing in front of stadiums, massive crowds and audiences, is the great Jack Brewer, who joins us now.
But, you know, at the end of the day, not just is he taking, you know, the physical abuse and pressure, but just like spiritually, it's got a way on him, man.
I mean, and every time you see him, I mean, just look in his eyes.
He's such a fighter, man.
To go in and out of that courtroom each and every day and stand up for the American people, knowing you have everything to lose.
And he's willing to put it all on the line for us, man.
And it's just so cool.
It makes you proud.
For me, after going through years and years of just...
Hate and people not talking to you, family not talking to you, friends not talking to you anymore behind Donald Trump.
I mean, for me, this is vindicating, man.
It's like I do it all over again.
A hundred times I stand for him because you see what kind of man he is.
I got a chance to meet President Trump, man, probably seven, eight years ago.
I met him at his New Jersey golf course.
I was with a host of different people, but he just made me feel so good the first time I met him.
And, you know, he started to ask me about the work I was doing in the community.
I told him about the situations in Baltimore with, you know, I'm reading the math proficiency levels and, you know, the place just looked like a third world country when you walk through and, you know, all these young minority kids living in these.
And you could just tell he cared, man.
And he kept asking me questions.
And then shortly after that, he goes out and starts making comments about Baltimore and these other cities.
And, you know, all of a sudden, you know, we passed.
Opportunity zones and all of these things that were put in place.
I mean, these are countries that are some of the poorest places on earth.
You know, I watched a former president in Malawi who was like my mom, be persecuted, and they try to throw her in jail for doing absolutely nothing.
And this is exactly what I'm watching happen here in the United States of America.
And to see, you know, President Trump walk into the court and, you know, I follow this case and, you know, what started, you know, seven years ago as something that would be classified as a misdemeanor.
And then they moved everything around and they tried to rename it to make it into a felony offense.
And then once they got into the felony, they get in the court and they can't apply the things that would actually go.
Into a felony conviction.
And so they try to start pulling these other misdemeanor facts in, and they're kind of jumbled up this entire process, just completely abandoning the criminal justice system and actually what the law says.
I mean, it is so sad, but what it's doing right now is putting on display for the American people.
What happens when you have these liberal judges?
And you have these liberal elected officials that are in power.
This happens to men and women across America all the time.
President Trump is just showing us what they can do to you.
I go into prisons and jails all the time with guys that are locked up.
I got guys that are locked up for life and they haven't killed anybody.
I got guys that got double and triple life sentences for selling drugs.
And so now you're watching the president of the United States that they hate so much.
And Benny, I've said it before.
That's why I called him the first black president in the Oval Office.
I called him the first black president because they persecuted him worse than they've done anyone in the United States of America.
I mean, think about the amount of money and time and energy and just years on this man's life.
You look up Joe Biden and you see that he wrote, literally was the author of the 94 crime bill.
You're talking about a crime bill that led to hundreds of thousands.
Of arrest of black men across the United States of America.
And then now, what are you going to say?
I'm sorry about it.
30 years later, when these guys are now grandfathers that have not been in their kids' lives, have not been in their grandkids' lives, and many have led to their own sons going to prison as well.
And so, you know, you talk about the ripple effect.
I mean, it's terrible.
And now that you're seeing what they're doing to conservatives across the board, whether you're getting shadow banned, whether you're getting silenced, whether you're getting canceled, it's terrible.
Now, today in America, unfortunately to say, conservative is the new black.
They put black people through shackles and chains and destroyed your lives, wouldn't hire you for work.
They're treating this man the same way they treated my uncle, or the same way they treated one of my homeboys that I grew up with.
You see this time and time again, man, and it's not right.
And I think, you know, I was so proud to see President Trump go into the Bronx, and every time he steps out of his hotel in New York, people are in the streets cheering for him, and they're all shapes, sizes, and colors, and no one can deny that.
That is like you're looking at the United Nations mixed with, I mean, there's every race of people were out there rallying.
Cheering for President Trump.
And I think that folks are understanding now what our government's capable of.
And so now it's become a personal fight.
Most people, they vote according to their pocketbooks, what's better policy for their families, and maybe a social issue or two that's important to them.
Now people are fighting for their future of the country that they have given everything to.
Everything, too.
People have their entire networks here.
Their families have fought some for generations to get here.
And so now we realize what our government is capable of, and I think people are willing to make that fight.
I know minorities, particularly the ones that I've talked to.
I'm going to tell you, there was a time I didn't even want to go into certain neighborhoods because I didn't want to get shot at if they see I'm the black Republican supporting Trump.
Now, all of a sudden, everywhere I go, everybody's like, hey, how you doing?
Otherwise, if it wasn't deceitful, it would be natural.
You wouldn't have to turn it on and off.
You wouldn't even have to target black people.
Black voters, if you're Kamala Harris and you're really a Black woman standing up for Black issues that went to HBCUs and had all of this background.
If you had all of that, you wouldn't have to make an effort to do it.
It would be effortless.
And that's the issue I think that so many African Americans have with particularly this administration.
I mean, I think they try to find as many folks, as many tokens as they can put next to them to say they checked this box and they're standing up for Black people.
We see that their policies are literally destroying all Americans, but particularly Black Americans, starting with their immigration policies.
You wouldn't have seen Otis Anderson and Lawrence Tater, two of the greatest NFL players ever, stand up in a crowd of 100,000 people for President Trump.
Man, this thing is real.
People are realizing what they're fighting for, and they're realizing that we all got a dog in this fight.
And the dog in this fight for us is President Donald J. Trump.
So you brought up, obviously, the two NFL legends.
You played yourself in the NFL, the rappers, and so on.
But zooming out a little bit, And looking forward to the next five months, every poll indicates that Donald Trump's going to win by what could be a historic margin and would totally remake the electoral map.
Do you see obviously that coming to fruition?
I mean, you know, there's a lot of shenanigans that can happen between now and then.
I don't, you know, because I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am a realist.
And I know that I'm still seeing court cases where they're still finding ballots and no photos of ballots, no history of ballots.
And so I don't know what they're capable of and how big this runs.
I do know that the Democratic Party right now is led by a lot of politicians who are career politicians that talk about dictators, but yet they're the ones in office for their entire lives.
They're the ones that have gotten themselves rich, literally rich and wealthy from being a politician.
None of them have personal businesses.
None of them have family businesses.
But yet they're wealthy.
And so that's really scary when you start thinking about how deep that corruption runs.
And that's really the reason why they fight so hard to stay in power is because they don't want to be exposed.
And so that really scares me.
I think that's what we have to keep front and center is we got to know who we are taking on right now and what powers are they coming from.
And so that's an issue.
And so I just hope that all Americans, particularly conservatives, I'm not even going to say conservatives, right?
Because I'll tell you, Benny, I'm not even a registered Republican.
And so I think that's what a lot of people are seeing.
It's not about President Trump.
It really is about the policies.
It really is about the future of America.
President Trump will not be alive to see the impact that he's having today.
He knows that and realizes that and is willing to pay a sacrifice for that.
My question to the American people, are you willing to pay that same price and give that same sacrifice for the future of this nation and the spiritual well-being of generations to come?