May 30, 2024 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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The criminal trial will resume deliberations in just a few hours. | |
| Brooke Singman is here with what we're expecting when court is back in session. | ||
| Hi, Brooke. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| Yeah, those 12 jurors will return to court at 930 this morning, and they'll continue deliberating for a second day after leaving the courthouse yesterday with no verdict. | ||
| So while deliberating, the jury submitted two notes to Judge Mershon. | ||
| They asked for five things, including David Pecker and Michael Cohen's testimonies about a meeting they had with Donald Trump back in 2015. | ||
| During that meeting, prosecutors alleged they discussed a conspiracy to get Trump elected by killing negative stories about him. | ||
| Jurors also asked the judge to read the jury instructions back to them again. | ||
| Former President Trump is required to stay inside the courthouse while the jury deliberates. | ||
| He spoke with reporters in the courthouse hallway during day one. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Confusion is nobody knows what the crime is because there's no crime. | ||
| Nobody knows what the crime is. | ||
| The D.A. didn't name the crime. | ||
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They don't know what the crime is. | |
| That's what the problem is. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| This thing ought to be ended immediately. | ||
| and save his reputation. | ||
| The former president also urged the New York Court of Appeals to expedite their review of his gag order, which bars him from talking about anyone involved in the case, including witnesses. | ||
| Meanwhile, Texas Senator Ted Cruz says this is all political. | ||
| The Constitution does not apply in New York, which means if we get a conviction, it will be reversed on appeal. | ||
| But the judge doesn't care. | ||
| The prosecutor doesn't care. | ||
| This is all about the press conference, the national address that Joe Biden has scheduled to give from the White House, where he gloats, we've now convicted Donald Trump. | ||
| This is all about November. | ||
| Trump is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records, and he has pleaded not guilty. | ||
| Guys. | ||
| Brooke, good setup. | ||
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Hey, loving man. | |
| Oops. | ||
| What is that now? | ||
| The 12 hands in a row? | ||
| Nobody's that lucky. | ||
| Whatever do you mean? | ||
| Maybe poker's just not your game. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Let's have a spelling contest. | ||
| How about if I just wring your stomach down? | ||
| Are you taking his part? | ||
| I'm the one who got cheated! | ||
| Okay, that's a good one, R. Let's go rock and roll. | ||
| It's Western Day, high noon, for Donald Trump in New York City. | ||
| Verdict Day today, and things are not looking great for Joe Biden and the Democrats who are prosecuting and persecuting Donald Trump for literally zero crimes, for no crimes. | ||
| And they're breaking the Constitution by doing it. | ||
| We have all of the receipts on this show, baby. | ||
| I hope you are ready to buckle up because we are going to rock and roll today all the way through. | ||
| The verdict deliberations are happening right now. | ||
| The jury is in the court right now deliberating. | ||
| They could come back at any time. | ||
| And so we are locked and loaded and ready. | ||
| The jury, by the way, has sent their third note to the judge to try and figure out what the hell's going on. | ||
| And many who we trust. | ||
| Who are very, very smart on these kind of topics are saying it's going to be a hung jury. | ||
| They're not going to come to a guilty verdict on Donald Trump. | ||
| It's going to be a hung jury and it's going to cause absolute chaos and panic and meltdowns for the left. | ||
| It's going to be glorious. | ||
| Hopefully it happens live on this show. | ||
| We will be joined live on this show today. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| By Representative Nancy Mace. | ||
| By Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch. | ||
| By Representative Troy Nels. | ||
| By Carrie Lake. | ||
| By Mike Davis. | ||
| By Jack Brewer. | ||
| By Monica Crowley. | ||
| Laura Trump. | ||
| Representative Tim Burchette. | ||
| And Stephen Miller. | ||
| Along with Mike Benz. | ||
| We intend on going all the way through today to a not guilty verdict. | ||
| Which is what you would get with a hung jury. | ||
| To a not guilty verdict. | ||
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| Let's lock and load. | ||
| The Donald Trump trial is officially over. | ||
| And the judge is doing everything that he possibly can to unconstitutionally rig and or upset the jury pool, confuse them into not knowing what's going on, into not having proper orders and instructions. | ||
| And this seems to be the newest plot by the Democrats who have manufactured and have effectively paid this guy off. | ||
| This is what his daughter is, okay? | ||
| This judge's daughter is a conduit for Democrats to fork money. | ||
| There's no reason for some 20-year-old dingbat. | ||
| A fundraiser? | ||
| I know how politics works. | ||
| Like, little 20-year-olds don't get this kind of stuff. | ||
| They plotted this. | ||
| They chose this guy's daughter for a reason. | ||
| And they have been forking money into her bank accounts. | ||
| Adam Schiff, Cory Booker, all the rest of them. | ||
| They forked money into her accounts in order to get this judge on their side. | ||
| And now they're hopefully getting what they paid for. | ||
| Hopefully for them. | ||
| But it's not happening the way they thought it would happen. | ||
| So we are now in jury deliberation day two. | ||
| All day yesterday, the jury, by this time yesterday, had gone in to deliberate whether Trump's guilty or not. | ||
| And there's something remarkable that happened when they were sent in. | ||
| The judge gave them a menu, a menu of what crimes Donald Trump could potentially be guilty of. | ||
| Never seen anything like it. | ||
| It's totally and wholly unconstitutional. | ||
| It is remarkable. | ||
| This is the Sarah Bedford tweet here. | ||
| Let's go ahead and put this up. | ||
| This is the by unlawful means. | ||
| So in America, there is very firm Supreme Court rulings that declare that a jury must, a jury must come to a unanimous verdict. | ||
| So this is really important. | ||
| This is called Ramos versus Louisiana in the U.S. Supreme Court. | ||
| Spells out these principles clearly and concisely. | ||
| Clearly and concisely. | ||
| That the jury must have unanimity in guilt. | ||
| Otherwise, you're violating the principles of unanimity, and you're violating the principles of a jury trial in the first place. | ||
| You can't just have one guy think you're guilty, and then you're guilty. | ||
| Yet, this, as we covered yesterday, but it was happening live, these jury instructions were happening live, so it was hard to really sink our teeth into it. | ||
| This... | ||
| Is there a way, their last ditch effort to try and rig the trial against Trump? | ||
| And I'll explain to you exactly why and what their end result is going to be. | ||
| This is what their end result is effectively to try and lock Donald Trump into his skyscraper in New York under house arrest and to stop him from campaigning. | ||
| To effectively prevent him with a gag order, like lock him up in a tower with a gag order and stop him from campaigning. | ||
| This is the end result. | ||
| You don't live in a free country. | ||
| You live in a deeply Deeply corrupt evil system that is fascistic by nature. | ||
| We're going to change that when you take back this place. | ||
| But ladies and gentlemen, these are the jury instructions, okay? | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| By unlawful means! | ||
| So this is the first time we've been able to see the jury instructions printed out. | ||
| The jury can't see them printed out, by the way. | ||
| An important thing to note. | ||
| The jury is not allowed to read these instructions. | ||
| The judge refuses to print out the jury instructions. | ||
| That's why the jury has gone back three times. | ||
| To the judge to ask for clarification and to get him to read off the instructions again. | ||
| Members of the corporate media even are saying that this is insanity. | ||
| But let's go ahead and read. | ||
| This is a purely and wholly unconstitutional order. | ||
| You want to talk about overturning this on appeal? | ||
| I want to talk about criminal prosecution for this judge. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| These are his instructions to the jury. | ||
| Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent an election of a person's public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous on what those unlawful means were. | ||
| This is directly from the judge. | ||
| We did not have this yesterday. | ||
| We talked about it, but now we've been able to sink our teeth into it. | ||
| In determining whether the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person's or public office by unlawful means, you may consider the following. | ||
| Violations of the Federal Elections Campaign Act, otherwise known as the FECA. | ||
| Falsification of business records or violations of tax laws. | ||
| So this is the judge saying, you're not allowed, you don't have to, you don't have to find Donald Trump guilty of one of these things. | ||
| You can just decide between a menu of them and then I'll find Donald Trump guilty for you. | ||
| Like, recognize this moment that we're living in. | ||
| Not only are they defying, Supreme Court precedent. | ||
| And let's go ahead and pull up that Supreme Court decision because I want everyone to know about it. | ||
| Ramos versus Louisiana. | ||
| Let's go ahead and grab that decision because it's really, really important. | ||
| Not only are you defying the Supreme Court orders here, but what you're doing is you're creating the greatest possible number of variables to prosecute Donald Trump. | ||
| Donald Trump isn't charged with any of these things. | ||
| This is what I can't wrap my head around. | ||
| With all of the guests that we have today, we're so excited to, like, get, like, we're going to be live for hours. | ||
| We're going to bring you all the breaking news. | ||
| This is going to be your headquarters for all the breaking news out of this trial today. | ||
| I really look forward to asking some of the legal scholars that we have about this, particularly Mike Davis. | ||
| But we have multiple legal scholars joining the show today. | ||
| Tom Fitton as well from Judicial Watch. | ||
| So here's Ramos versus Louisiana on unanimity. | ||
| The Supreme Court does not mince words. | ||
| You must have a unanimous jury verdict for guilt. | ||
| A single juror can make it a hung jury. | ||
| And then with a hung jury, as this ruling enumerates, with a hung jury, then the accused is immediately set free and allowed to go and can never be charged again based on double jeopardy principles. | ||
| And Donald Trump is allowed to go without so much as a slap on the wrist with a hung jury. | ||
| That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we should be hoping for. | ||
| What's incredible about this order is that Donald Trump isn't charged with any of these things. | ||
| I just can't wrap my head around this. | ||
| So the FBC, the Federal Elections Commission, decided not to charge Donald Trump with this. | ||
| This was all brought up in 2017-2018. | ||
| The DOJ decided not to charge Donald Trump with these things. | ||
| Violation of tax laws? | ||
| Well, then where's the IRS? | ||
| The IRS here? | ||
| Donald Trump, and let's put up the jury instructions one more time here. | ||
| Donald Trump was not charged with these crimes. | ||
| The judge is legitimately making up crimes based on your priors. | ||
| Or what you can just allude, like, shadows and ghosts and mirrors. | ||
| What you think about Donald Trump, given the available evidence. | ||
| It's a really important thing to make sure that we, like, drill down on. | ||
| That that's how rigged this trial is. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, to the live updates from the trial. | ||
| Let's rock and roll. | ||
| I really wanted to cover that. | ||
| Really wanted to cover that. | ||
| Uh, this, this morning and just get right, right into like what Donald Trump is facing because many are, you know, many are one of our favorite commentators, Jonathan Turley is comparing this to a trapped animal inside of a, like a rigged hunt, right? | ||
| Where like the animal has no way out. | ||
| So you're going to like, there's like ranges in Texas where like, you can go, you can go hunt a bison, but the bison's caged. | ||
| So it can only go so far. | ||
| And you're going to find it, and then you're going to be able to get it. | ||
| And this is what the judge has done now, trapping Trump and trapping the jury, who again has gone back and rang the judge three times to say, we don't really understand what the hell you've given us here as jury instructions. | ||
| In fact, before we get to Trump's comments today, I want to show you a corporate media, ABC News reporter, who outside of the courthouse is like, Nobody really understands why the judge won't just give the jury instructions to the jurors. | ||
| None of this makes any sense. | ||
| We've never seen anything like this before. | ||
| Outside of wantonly attempting to rig this trial, we don't understand what's happening. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
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These are the instructions that the jury has to follow in Donald Trump's hush money trial before they can reach a verdict. | |
| 53 pages. | ||
| This is complicated. | ||
| This is lengthy stuff. | ||
| It took the judge over an hour to read it. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| The jury doesn't get this in the room during deliberations. | ||
| They have to write questions. | ||
| They can write notes. | ||
| But they don't get these instructions. | ||
| In New York, both parties have to agree and the judge has to agree. | ||
| And in this case, it didn't happen. | ||
| They don't have this in the room right now. | ||
| So, these are corporate media reporters being like, We don't even know. | ||
| Like, this doesn't make any sense. | ||
| 53 pages? | ||
| An hour to get through these jury instructions? | ||
| The jury doesn't even get the instructions? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The point is to create confusion, to be able to browbeat the jurors, and to be able to exhaust them into one of the menu of options that the judge has given for the prosecution, persecution of Donald Trump. | ||
| With the intended and stated goal of locking Donald Trump in Trump Tower. | ||
| Because in the state of New York, as soon as a jury comes to guilty on any charge and the judge has said, you could just decide he's guilty on one of these three charges. | ||
| All I need is every juror to decide he's guilty on one of the charges. | ||
| You realize the game they're playing now? | ||
| So they never said the crime for Donald Trump. | ||
| They never, they're not charging with these, but the judge is saying Trump's guilty of these. | ||
| And all you have to do is like, every juror needs to just pick one of the three options. | ||
| And then I'll combine them all to say Trump's guilty. | ||
| It's wholly unconstitutional. | ||
| The Supreme Court should step in and stop this now. | ||
| Judge Mershon should be locked up in Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| This is so egregious. | ||
| We look forward to talking to Laura Trump about this again on the show. | ||
| We have multiple members of Congress. | ||
| It's going to be a wild show. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, before we're able... | ||
| To fill the entire day and bring you all the breaking news from this trial, we want to let the president speak. | ||
| Donald Trump is gagged. | ||
| Donald Trump is gagged, and the judge could well, if they come back with a guilty verdict, continue the gag on Donald Trump, stop him from speaking during the campaign for presidency, stop him from debating Joe Biden, right, or countering Joe Biden in a debate that's happening in less than 30 days. | ||
| And then the judge could lock him in Trump Tower. | ||
| He could say, okay, I'm not going to put you in prison, but I'm going to put you under home arrest. | ||
| You're going to be under home arrest for the entire rest of the campaign. | ||
| This could well be what the judge decides, and this may well be the play. | ||
| This is why the judge's daughter is filthy rich and gets hundreds of millions of dollars because this entire operation was hatched a couple years ago in order to bring these charges with this specific judge. | ||
| None of it's random. | ||
| And to lock up Donald Trump when he runs for president again. | ||
| This is what you're seeing playing out. | ||
| Now, before we get to Donald Trump quickly today, I spent the entire evening praying. | ||
| You should pray too. | ||
| If you are a believer, you should pray. | ||
| God is a God of miracles. | ||
| And he's also a God of truth. | ||
| And there has been no truth in this trial. | ||
| He brought known liars and literal demons up on the stand to testify against Donald Trump. | ||
| You should pray for a single juror. | ||
| All there needs to be is one juror. | ||
| Typically it's one crime, but it needs to be one juror to say he's not guilty of any of these crimes. | ||
| Then you have a hung jury. | ||
| Then it's over. | ||
| Then it's finished. | ||
| And by American law, Donald Trump walks free at that instant. | ||
| And the state has no more power. | ||
| So that's what you should be praying for. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, here is Donald Trump this morning at the courthouse. | ||
| As ever, we will only play. | ||
| We will allow the president's full commentary and allow the president to speak. | ||
| Talking about, I just wanted to like build in the details here because the more we research them, the more insane it actually gets. | ||
| When they call it a rigged trial, it is by definition a rigged trial. | ||
| So here, ladies and gentlemen, is the president, Donald Trump, speaking this morning. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Here we go again. | ||
| Five weeks. | ||
| I've been here again. | ||
| I'd like to answer all of your questions. | ||
| They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged, so I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly. | ||
| Some of the reviews from yesterday are the... | ||
| By the way, everyone's against this case. | ||
| I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law saying that this case should have been filed. | ||
| It should not have been filed. | ||
| Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago. | ||
| It's seven years old. | ||
| Everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down. | ||
| Southern District turned it down. | ||
| Bragg turned it down. | ||
| Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office. | ||
| It's a terrible thing. | ||
| At the request of Biden, the editors of the National Review saying, quit Trump. | ||
| Bragg has failed to prove his charges. | ||
| Totally failed. | ||
| Greg Jarrett. | ||
| Who exactly was defrauded? | ||
| Voters who had already voted. | ||
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Well, they already voted because all of the stuff came in after the election. | |
| So how were they defrauded? | ||
| And then you say, what about Hillary with the dossier? | ||
| What about all of these other things that go? | ||
| And this is nothing. | ||
| This is nothing. | ||
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But what about all of the corruption, the voter fraud? | |
| That you've seen over the last year on behalf of the Democrats and nobody talks about it? | ||
| This is ridiculous what they're talking about. | ||
| This is called running for office. | ||
| Greg Jarrett, the government which received full payment on all taxable income. | ||
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The government, by the way, received full payment. | |
| The taxes were paid in full. | ||
| In fact, they make comments on that. | ||
| Even if the taxes were paid in full, the Federal Elections Commission... | ||
| That concluded the money paid did not constitute a campaign contribution under the law. | ||
| And remember, this judge wouldn't allow us. | ||
| Look, he's a very conflicted judge. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| You don't want to talk about what the conflict was. | ||
| I'm not allowed to talk about it because of a gang order that he put on me. | ||
| So one subject he really doesn't want to talk about. | ||
| There was no fraud. | ||
| There was no conspiracy. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| Moreover, without a primary crime, there can be no secondary crime. | ||
| It's a classic lawfare, weaponizing statutes, because the law has been... | ||
| Okay, right? | ||
| Because no law has been broken. | ||
| That was Greg Jarrett. | ||
| Ellie Honig, legal analyst for CNN. | ||
| The crime here is not easy to explain or to understand. | ||
| It's just not understandable. | ||
| In other words, there is no crime. | ||
| This is CNN. | ||
| Catherine Christian from MS. NBC, I call it MSDNC, legal analyst. | ||
| It's difficult because it's a very nuanced argument. | ||
| It's never been prosecuted before. | ||
| This is an argument that has never been prosecuted before. | ||
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And hopefully it'll never be prosecuted again. | |
| Andy McCarthy. | ||
| This is anything but standard. | ||
| It's the antithesis of standard, actually. | ||
| The idea that they do not have to agree on what the other crime is. | ||
| We spent six weeks wondering. | ||
| What is the other crime? | ||
| What is the other crime? | ||
| And at the end, the thud we all get is this. | ||
| There's three or four of them, and you could pick one from the other, and they don't have to agree on anything. | ||
| And what he's saying is it's so corrupt. | ||
| Nobody's ever heard of a thing like this. | ||
| It's called pick 'em. | ||
| It's like the lottery. | ||
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Pick 'em. | |
| You pick 'em. | ||
| And you don't have to be, even though in a criminal case you have to be unanimous, you don't have to be. | ||
| Just give a couple of votes because the judge, unfortunately, is corrupt. | ||
| Judge Jeanine Pirro, no one has heard of this. | ||
| It's like there's a menu column A, B, or C. You don't have to agree on it. | ||
| This is a kangaroo court. | ||
| This is unheard of. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| I've done this for 32 years. | ||
| I'm not a federal prosecutor or a state prosecutor, so I know what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm not a federal judge. | ||
| I'm a county judge, just like Mercia. | ||
| This is New York law, and this is my wheelhouse. | ||
| He is 100% wrong. | ||
| He's wrong. | ||
| That's what Jeanine Pirro, very good woman, very smart woman. | ||
| Jonathan Turley. | ||
| This is becoming a three-card Monty game on where is the crime? | ||
| Smart guy. | ||
| Where is the crime? | ||
| Mike Davis, the U.S. would sanction a country for doing this. | ||
| I think that's good. | ||
| I think that's good. | ||
| Steve Hilton, it seems that every single day these proceedings go on, the judge and the prosecutor just go out of their way to prove Trump's point. | ||
| And I guess they are proving my point when you think. | ||
| That's why I write some of these things that are very sad. | ||
| Mark Levin, this Stalinist-like case, it's a Stalinist-like case. | ||
| It has prevented President Trump from running for office. | ||
| It has prevented him from campaigning. | ||
| He's unable to campaign because he's been in a courthouse for five weeks. | ||
| And yet we just had a ball came out, NPR. | ||
| Trump's 54, Biden's 42. And that's with independence. | ||
| That's the best we've ever had. | ||
| They said this is the single best ball that Trump has ever had with independence. | ||
| Trump's largest lead. | ||
| Among independent voters, NPR, Barris College, 44-28, and Junior is way down, way, way down. | ||
| But it's 44. Junior is extremely liberal, by the way, extremely radical left. | ||
| I think you know that. | ||
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But he seems to be hurting Biden probably a little bit. | |
| So that's it. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| The millions and millions of dollars that are spent daily on this case. | ||
| Outside, it looks like it's Fort Knox. | ||
| Like they're guarding this. | ||
| I've never seen so many policemen. | ||
| Now, with Columbia University, you can plant a tent right in front of the main door, no problem. | ||
| NYU, just put your tent up. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
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Over here. | |
| But I just want to say that this is a very sad day for America. | ||
| The whole world is watching. | ||
| And it's a very sad day for New York. | ||
| I've gone through two of these trials already. | ||
| It's the same kind of a judge. | ||
| It's all worked. | ||
| It's all rigged. | ||
| The whole thing, the whole system is rigged. | ||
| Judge N. Gorin was overturned five times in my case. | ||
| And he's going to be overturned again. | ||
| And we were treated very, very badly. | ||
| And the outside world is watching. | ||
| And the outside world is just not going to bring their business to New York. | ||
| And that's going to cost the city trillions and the state trillions and trillions of dollars. | ||
| Businesses are leaving. | ||
| And people are fleeing. | ||
| You can see the quotes yourself. | ||
| And thank you all very much. | ||
| We'll comment later on in the evening. | ||
| But we'll be here. | ||
| It looks like a long time. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| So we'll be here. | ||
| It looks like a long time, Donald Trump says as he rips through headlines, saying that nobody's ever seen anything like this before. | ||
| Yet we have. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Donald Trump doesn't have enough time, obviously, to get into it. | ||
| But we have seen this exact thing. | ||
| Play out before. | ||
| Hillary Clinton, when she was running for president in 2016, paid for a lie, something called the PP dossier. | ||
| It was a rat's nest of lies about Donald Trump, her opponent in that race. | ||
| She laundered that to the press to rig an election. | ||
| To open up an investigation into Donald Trump, which was the intended result that resulted in the three-year-long Russiagate hoax, Robert Mueller, you might recall, that they found nothing. | ||
| And Hillary Clinton then, on her Federal Elections Commission form, where you have to itemize campaign expenditures like this, called this legal services. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Take all of that on his face. | ||
| I know we're getting a little far into it, and it might be a little boring to you, but I can show you articles here. | ||
| ALX, let's go ahead and grab an article on this. | ||
| This is not the right article, Klein. | ||
| I can show you articles of Hillary Clinton having to pay massive campaign fees and violation fees to the FEC for... | ||
| Doing exactly what they have Donald Trump on trial for right now. | ||
| Hillary Clinton had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and the DNC had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for incorrectly itemizing the PP dossier. | ||
| For doing precisely what they're trying to put Trump in prison for doing right now. | ||
| We don't talk about it enough. | ||
| They're going after Donald Trump. | ||
| For campaign finance violations, for attempting to influence an election by covering up a story and then incorrectly itemizing that in your expenditures. | ||
| This, ladies and gentlemen, is by definition what Hillary Clinton did with a far worse piece of odious pack of rats lies that they paid for about Donald Trump. | ||
| Through Christopher Steele, literally paying for Russian disinformation to smear Trump and spread that all about the media. | ||
| This is what Clinton did. | ||
| She hasn't caught a case for this and never will, presumably. | ||
| And the evil of it all, it makes your skin crawl. | ||
| The evil of it all makes your skin crawl. | ||
| How can we live? | ||
| How can the country continue at this pace? | ||
| Like, when the system is so Stalinist and so rigged against a nationalist movement that wants to put this country first by the literal demons here on your screen that are doing the exact same thing and never catch a case for it, and far worse. | ||
| The crimes of the Clintons, this is a misdemeanor. | ||
| The crimes of the Clintons, if you really want to see the beginnings of them, Then go ahead and read the Jeffrey Epstein documents. | ||
| Go see what they did in Haiti. | ||
| But here's just a good, this is a good appetizer for what the Clintons are guilty of. | ||
| Will they ever catch a case? | ||
| Will the Bidens ever catch a case? | ||
| Well, in a just country, yes. | ||
| But just a reminder of what they're doing to Donald Trump. | ||
| Same thing with the documents. | ||
| There was no FBI raid on Joe Biden's house. | ||
| There was no guns drawn. | ||
| Embarrassing photographs. | ||
| Rigged. | ||
| Crime scenes. | ||
| That were released. | ||
| They're not charging Joe Biden. | ||
| They're not charging Joe Biden. | ||
| They said Joe Biden's too mentally unfit to be president. | ||
| So we're not going to charge him. | ||
| If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all. | ||
| And so here we are, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Is this bothering Donald Trump? | ||
| Does Donald Trump look worried to you? | ||
| Here, ladies and gentlemen, from yesterday is our first video ever of Donald Trump. | ||
| Inside of the courthouse. | ||
| There are no cameras allowed in the courthouse. | ||
| There are no photos allowed in the courthouse. | ||
| But Don Jr. decided in the sort of waiting pen that they locked Donald Trump in like an animal to post a really hysterical video from yesterday that's heartwarming and says a lot about the Trump family. | ||
| And we thought you'd enjoy it as well. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| I'm here with your favorite president. | ||
| We're cranking out a couple of mean tweets at the courthouse. | ||
| Why don't you read that last one? | ||
| Because I think it's pretty accurate. | ||
| Well, I think I'm going to put it out instead of reading it. | ||
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But I know my son's doing very well on social media. | |
| I'm proud of him. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| It'll be a doozy. | ||
| So this was Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. together with, as we were able to investigate, a box of Milk Duds, some Lay's potato chips. | ||
| And Trump writing mean tweets behind the scenes at the court. | ||
| Donald Trump laughing and in good spirits and complimenting his son and saying his son's great at social media. | ||
| A beautiful sort of insight into the Trumps. | ||
| They're laughing. | ||
| They're smiling. | ||
| I don't know how they do it. | ||
| I don't know how they do it. | ||
| The point of all this, of course, is to humiliate and break a man. | ||
| And Donald Trump seems to be... | ||
| Now, what was the mean tweet that Donald Trump was sending? | ||
| Well, here's the post on Truth Social. | ||
| He was talking about Shannon Bream, Shannon Bream being a naive reporter and not being willing to admit that it is, in fact, Joe Biden who is running all of these attacks against Trump. | ||
| Alina Habba, friend of the show, was on Fox News yesterday. | ||
| And told Shannon Bream, who's the on-air legal personality, you know, this is like, these are Biden trials. | ||
| This is Joe Biden trying to lock up and cage his political opponent who's beating him in every single poll. | ||
| And Shannon Bream, to her great shame, we know Shannon Bream, she's great. | ||
| I mean, I lived in D.C. for 15 years. | ||
| We would run into Shannon Bream. | ||
| She's a very nice person. | ||
| But to her great shame, she did what every corporate media person does. | ||
| And I know this because I've worked for corporate media before and I've had shows on cable TV. | ||
| They engage in the hive mind boilerplate responses where they are not allowed to just see the evidence in front of their faces. | ||
| And they're not allowed to just, like, come to the conclusion. | ||
| You're not allowed to notice. | ||
| Certain things, if you work in corporate media. | ||
| And this clip is a perfect example of that. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Lena Habba with Shannon Bream yesterday. | ||
| This is exactly a Biden show because he's got to distract the American people. | ||
| Listen, but the Biden administration is not responsible for this trial. | ||
| How can you say the Biden administration is not responsible for this trial? | ||
| It's a state trial. | ||
| It's Alvin Bragg. | ||
| Whether you think there's a political motive for him, it's not connected to the DOJ. | ||
| I mean, the Fed's passed on these election charges. | ||
| Shannon, you should look at how many logs they have of state officials, Letitia James, Fannie Willis, visiting the White House and then tell me that... | ||
| This is not a Biden trial. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Feds passed on this case is the point I'm making. | ||
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You're right. | |
| The feds passed on this case. | ||
| Also, D.A. Cy Vance passed on this case. | ||
| Years ago, and then it came back. | ||
| And Brad passed on this case. | ||
| You know when it came back? | ||
| When he decided to run for office. | ||
| So tell me how that's not an indication that Joe Biden, who just sent his campaign down here with Robert De Niro yesterday, isn't a part of this. | ||
| Frankly, any question that we had of that was squashed yesterday. | ||
| And if you have even more concerns about whether he's involved in this, look at the fact that he is publicizing, literally publicizing for tonight to have a speech if a verdict comes out. | ||
| That's a sad state of affairs. | ||
| Meanwhile, our country is falling apart. | ||
| He's got bigger fish to fry. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, this was what Donald Trump was posting the mean tweet about. | ||
| This is what Donald Trump watched on Fox News, presumably Fox News is on, inside of the polling pen that they have Donald Trump in. | ||
| And Donald Trump... | ||
| Loved his attorney, Alina Habba, pushing back on that line of questioning. | ||
| But it also begs the question, like, how can you not see this? | ||
| How are you so blind? | ||
| It is broken, hive mind, corporate media pablum that breaks people. | ||
| And when you do interviews, you have a producer in your ear. | ||
| That's screaming at you. | ||
| Oh, you can't say it's a Biden trial. | ||
| Can't say it's a Biden trial. | ||
| No evidence, no evidence, right? | ||
| No evidence of a Biden trial. | ||
| Even though there is nothing but evidence laid before you. | ||
| This is why it's so important to not base your media companies out of Manhattan. | ||
| This is why Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox, along with Dan Bongino, along with Steve Hilton. | ||
| All the America First people were fired from Fox. | ||
| Ask yourself why. | ||
| You can't base your media company where the... | ||
| Pool of talent you have to pull from is the most Democrat district in America in downtown Manhattan. | ||
| Same with the jury pool here. | ||
| So while Shannon Bream, who's a very nice person, is doing that interview, a producer who most likely is intending on voting for Joe Biden, voted for Joe Biden in 2020, and is voting for Joe Biden in 2024, is in her ear saying, Joe Biden's not a fraud of this trial. | ||
| There's no evidence of that, right? | ||
| Can't just connect the dots. | ||
| Meanwhile, obviously, when Hillary Clinton produces and does far worse, produces a PP dossier saying that Donald Trump is a Russian agent, then all there is is connecting the dots. | ||
| Well, I mean, the document said it. | ||
| The dossier said Donald Trump's a Russian agent. | ||
| So, I mean, it must be. | ||
| It just stands to reason, right? | ||
| Donald Trump once said something nice about it. | ||
| Vladimir Putin. | ||
| He once had a vodka brand, Trump vodka. | ||
| So he must be a Russian nation. | ||
| The world can't continue like this. | ||
| It's why corporate media is failing. | ||
| It's why channels like ours are ascending. | ||
| And it's why we would never base our company inside the most Democrat district, our free speech America first company, inside the most Democrat district in America. | ||
| You've got to be smarter. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| Fox News closes up shop in New York and moves to Nashville or something. | ||
| This is what they should do. | ||
| You should get out of these areas because the talent and the staffing, they're not going to be on your side. | ||
| You're going to have embarrassing moments like that. | ||
| However, there are some Trump supporters that are outside of the court. | ||
| You see Donald Trump smiling and happy in these videos. | ||
| Perhaps it's because Donald Trump sees these people when he leaves the courthouse every single day. | ||
| Here are some interviews with the Trump, MAGA, America First patriots out front of the courthouse, standing strong. | ||
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I love this man. | |
| He is innocent of all charges. | ||
| This is a judicial lynching. | ||
| He did nothing wrong. | ||
| He will be found innocent. | ||
| But even if he isn't, and he's railroaded by the Democratic Marxist Party, I will vote for him regardless of the outcome. | ||
| I'm with him 100%. | ||
| Tell me, what brings you out today? | ||
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I see the Trump hat. | |
| Because I love Trump, and I love what he did for me and my people, black people. | ||
| He really helped us out. | ||
| What they doing right now, this is like really ridiculous. | ||
| Court cases and everything that they doing towards him is like trying to get him to be, they trying to just stop him from the momentum from winning the election, but it ain't happening, man. | ||
| We with Trump. | ||
| Black people, we really with Trump, though. | ||
| Like, that's just what it is. | ||
| A big part of the Biden campaign is he's advocating that he's for black America. | ||
| What do you say to that? | ||
| Biden ain't for no black America. | ||
| I lost everything since Biden been in. | ||
| I had a whole limousine business. | ||
| I had a whole car business selling cars, buying and selling cars. | ||
| That all went down the drain when Biden got in. | ||
| . | ||
| I don't get a free hotel like the immigrants get. | ||
| You know, so that is what it is. | ||
| I sleep in the car homeless. | ||
| Are you from New York City? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you say to politicians who think that there's no place for Trump in New York? | ||
| He had a rally recently in the Bronx. | ||
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We got to get them out of there. | |
| We got to get them out of there. | ||
| And I ain't trying to say nothing too drastic or nothing, but it's time for them to get up out of here. | ||
| We got to start getting them out of here. | ||
| They don't do nothing for us. | ||
| AOC don't do nothing for us. | ||
| Well, I'm praying and hoping for a not guilty verdict. | ||
| I'm praying if he goes to jail, that will just increase his popularity. | ||
| It increases popularity and increases poll numbers because we are all behind him and we believe he's being railroaded and being, you know, judicially lynched, as I said. | ||
| This is a political persecution and I'm outraged. | ||
| They should be going after the real criminals in this city, the ones who are raping women, raping kids, committing murders, selling drugs. | ||
| Why are these people running around loose when Donald Trump is on trial? | ||
| I'm just so angry right now, I can't even express myself. | ||
| But whether he goes to jail or not... | ||
| I'm pulling the lever for Donald Trump. | ||
| Days for Trump. | ||
| I love the man. | ||
| Do you have any feeling about the outcome of this trial today? | ||
| The what? | ||
| Do you have any feeling about the outcome of this trial today? | ||
| I think more or less they're going to let him go. | ||
| I think that's what's going to happen eventually, yeah. | ||
| Do you think it'll help or hurt him politically? | ||
| I don't really think it would make much of a difference. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because, what they say, Michael Cohen, you know, I don't know. | ||
| It's like too much stuff. | ||
| It's like so much stuff. | ||
| If they put him in jail, do you hear that guy? | ||
| The guy beforehand? | ||
| The guy beforehand? | ||
| If they put him in jail, then it'll make me pull the lever for Donald Trump even more. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Shout yourself out in the comment section. | ||
| Shout yourself out in the comment section. | ||
| We got a comment section rolling all day in front of us. | ||
| We are here for the chat. | ||
| Let me know. | ||
| If they put Donald Trump in prison... | ||
| Does it make you want to vote for him more? | ||
| In fact, ALX, let's pin a poll on the chat. | ||
| Chat is rip-roaring right now. | ||
| If they lock Donald Trump in jail, which is a possibility, they're doing everything they can to get it there. | ||
| Was that going to make you want to vote for him more or less? | ||
| I think you know my answer. | ||
| I think I know your answer. | ||
| But vote in our poll and let me know in the chat. | ||
| Jonathan Turley! | ||
| The Manhattan canned hunt. | ||
| The Trump jury is out, but the case is in the bag. | ||
| The canned hunt, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is what one of our favorite political legal pundits and experts has to say about this. | ||
| What is a canned hunt? | ||
| The instructions of the case raised concerns that the deliberations could become a legal version of a canned hunt where the prey is trapped in a cage, fenced in areas. | ||
| To be dispatched. | ||
| Elements of the instructions are disturbing in reducing what is required to convict the former president, as we discussed. | ||
| Today, the jury began its deliberations in the trial of former President Donald Trump. | ||
| Before the jurors left, however, Judge Juan Mershon framed the deliberations in a way that seemed to be less like jury deliberations than a canned hunt. | ||
| For many of us, the Trump trial has seemed otherworldly, vaguely familiar proceedings where the common elements of the trial seem to be flipped. | ||
| Even before the jury instructions, the trial was controversial for both liberal and conservative commentators. | ||
| At the start, closing arguments, most honest observers were still wondering what the prosecutor's allegations of a crime were. | ||
| They didn't even understand what the crime was. | ||
| Then came the closing arguments around the country. | ||
| It is standard for the government to go first with closing arguments to allow the defense to respond. | ||
| The government was then given the privilege of a rebuttal after the defense rests. | ||
| In New York, the defense must go first, giving the government free reign over its closing with no risk of contradiction from the defense. | ||
| With the exception of objections, any abusive or improper arguments are left to the judges to address. | ||
| In the case of Juan Mershon, the protection was all but absent as the prosecution engaged in a flagrant violation from offering testimony, uh, unestablished facts to directly contradicting prior instructions. | ||
| In one of the most egregious moments, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass told the jury that it is an established fact that former Trump counsel, Michael Cohen committed a federal election law violation on the direct orders of Donald Trump. | ||
| Mershon repeatedly said that Cohen's earlier plea could not be used to imply guilt of Trump. | ||
| Mershon overruled an objection and Steinglass proceeded. | ||
| So that tells you this. | ||
| And this is, by the way, reporting from inside of the court. | ||
| Jonathan Turley's been there every single day. | ||
| Mershon did nothing, as Steinglass told the jury, that Hope Hicks cried in court because she knew that she had destroyed Trump's defense. | ||
| Hicks never explained why she cried. | ||
| Mershon did nothing, as Steinglass falsely told the jury that the media and the political campaigns do not want Trump to kill or plant stories. | ||
| This ignored, for example, that Clinton campaign did precisely and repeatedly the same thing throughout the election. | ||
| I can't get over this. | ||
| I'm so angry about it. | ||
| The idea that campaigns don't want bad stories to come out and don't normally practice in killing stories? | ||
| That this is some type of, like, crime? | ||
| This is not a crime. | ||
| There's a First Amendment and there's freedom of the press. | ||
| There's also freedom to not publish. | ||
| And, like, the founders, like, half the founders owned their own publications. | ||
| You're criminalizing free press here. | ||
| Show me a powerful person on Earth that hasn't tried to prevent a bad story from coming out. | ||
| They're criminalizing Trump for this? | ||
| This shows you how thin it's all gotten, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| But then you have to consider the deliberations and the orders to the jury. | ||
| The instructions went for the kill and turned the jury deliberations into a canned hunt, says Turley. | ||
| First, the judge ruled that the jury does not have to agree on what actually occurred in the case. | ||
| Mershon ruled that the government has vaguely referenced three possible crimes, unlawful means to influence an election. | ||
| A federal violation, falsification, business records, and tax violation, as we showed you. | ||
| The jurors were then told that they could split on what occurred, four jurors accepting each of the three possibilities at 4-4 split. | ||
| The court would then consider that a unanimous verdict so long as they agree. | ||
| Strangely, this is unconstitutional. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| Second, the judge said that he would instruct the jury on the law, but then omitted the key elements and established that there was no federal campaign violation. | ||
| Indeed, a blocked legal expert, Ben Smith, former chair of the Federal Election Commission, was going to testify that this could not have been a federal election violation. | ||
| Moreover, even if Trump's legal settlement money could be viewed as a federal campaign contribution, it could not have been part of a conspiracy to influence the election. | ||
| A contribution could have occurred after the election. | ||
| Because that's exactly what happened. | ||
| Third, not only does the jury disagree on what occurred, but one of the three crimes is so circular that it is to produce vertigo in the jury room. | ||
| The prosecution zapped a dead misdemeanor back to life by claiming it violates violations under New York's election law. | ||
| The argument is that the crime committed to further another crime in an unlawful means to influence the election. | ||
| However, the other crime can be falsification of business records. | ||
| So the jury, or some jurors at least, could find that some documents were falsified and unlawful falsifying documents. | ||
| Is this getting confusing to you? | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| Vertigo is exactly the right term for this. | ||
| Finally, Mershon is allowing conviction based on general intent to defraud any person or entity, a dangerously vague concept in its novel criminal case. | ||
| Mershon is largely stuck to the standard jury instructions, but the case is anything but standard. | ||
| With ambiguous claims of influencing an election or general intent, the definition can be an invitation for total and complete bias. | ||
| Given the instructions and the errors in this trial, it would seem as if acquittal is almost beyond the realm of possibility that leaves either a hung jury or a conviction. | ||
| However, framing this case as a failure to protect the rights of the defendant and undermine perceived legitimacy of the proceedings, it... | ||
| And any possible verdict, Trump is in a tight cage. | ||
| Mershon just left it for the jury to deliver the coup de grace. | ||
| We will see. | ||
| He remains hopeful that the jurors will find a hung jury. | ||
| But there are jurors here that will say, and he has said this repeatedly today, Jonathan Turley, that he expects a hung jury here. | ||
| And that's not great signs when they're going back to the judge again and again and again. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, we shall see an absolutely wild breakdown and an important moment, obviously, to recognize something. | ||
| That the entire system that we view as the American Republic stands to fall if you can simply prosecute your political opponent for non-crimes. | ||
| If you can put... | ||
| You're a political opponent in jail for nothing. | ||
| Then we no longer have a republic. | ||
| We're in something like very, very dark and very different from what you were told that this country was when you were being raised. | ||
| So what do we have in this country? | ||
| It's probably best to talk to a member of Congress about this. | ||
| the great congresswoman from South Carolina, Nancy Mace, joins the program now. | ||
| you you Congresswoman, I really appreciate you coming on the program today. | ||
| Given the fact that we still don't know what crime Donald Trump is committing here and that the Biden campaign is doing campaign rallies outside of the courthouse, at what point do you sort of throw your hands up and say, we just don't live in a republic anymore. | ||
| We live in something weirdly Stalinist and really dystopian. | ||
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Well, what you're seeing truly is an abuse of power, because whether, you know, whether it was a legitimate crime to prosecute or not, the feds decided not to. | |
| Alvin Bragg doesn't have the jurisdiction to even have this trial going on right now. | ||
| And I believe that Joe Biden will do everything in his power through every tool that he has to ensure and guarantee and weight the scale so that Donald Trump can never be elected president. | ||
| And you have the left here. | ||
| You know, they're talking about, you know, Donald Trump is an affront to democracy, is a threat to democracy. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| When, not if, but when Donald Trump wins, it is the epitome of democracy, because that'll mean that voters'voices were heard and that there is justice in the system. | ||
| Because right now we're all working very hard to make America great again, which was what we should be doing. | ||
| We also want to make the American justice system impartial again. | ||
| And while we're seeing this every day in the trial of Donald Trump, I have a very independent district, very purple district. | ||
| But what I'm hearing from independent people, they feel like it's the American people being prosecuted, the American people being abused, their rights being abused. | ||
| And this thing has massively backfired on Joe Biden. | ||
| And we want to keep it that way because we need to bring independent voters back into the fold. | ||
| We want them to make America great again with all of us. | ||
| Yeah, that's such a great point. | ||
| And I know your district well, and your victory in your district was a shock. | ||
| And I think you've done a spectacular job representing what was a very blue, quite a blue, like a blue and or independent district. | ||
| And so, you know, kudos to you. | ||
| But also, you would really understand how this is being perceived outside of, let's say, like somebody who's willing to wear a MAGA hat, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| So what do you constituencies say when they... | ||
| When they see, like, Donald Trump, who was never charged with a single crime in his entire life, suddenly facing 700 years in prison. | ||
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They see the injustice. | |
| And that's what's bringing them back into the Republican fold. | ||
| I had two town halls yesterday and a couple of press conferences. | ||
| I'm on the campaign trail right now. | ||
| And I had a voter come up to me who's independent, who left the party. | ||
| He's like, give me a reason. | ||
| Give me a reason to vote for Donald Trump. | ||
| And you explain all of the injustices that Biden is doing, the judges, the activists, activist judges, and the prosecutors who are political consultants for the DNC, how they're doing this and exposing the threat to the democracy is actually on the left. | ||
| And the independent voters, they don't care about the mean tweets anymore. | ||
| They just want to have good wages. | ||
| They want to have good jobs. | ||
| They want to prosper. | ||
| They want freedom. | ||
| And what they're seeing is that Life was better under Donald Trump. | ||
| And they don't want four more years of Joe Biden. | ||
| They have now had the opportunity to have two back-to-back presidencies. | ||
| And it's clearer than it's ever been before. | ||
| We were better off. | ||
| We were more prosperous. | ||
| We were more free. | ||
| There were not these endless wars going on all around the world. | ||
| Everybody was better. | ||
| Black, white, brown, male, female. | ||
| Everyone was better. | ||
| And that's what they're seeing today. | ||
| And then it's the injustice. | ||
| They're seeing, wait a minute, the left has told me for years Donald Trump was a threat to democracy, and yet Joe Biden's having Donald Trump thrown off the ballot, having him prosecuted by a state that doesn't have federal jurisdiction, and watching all the tampering going on. | ||
| I mean, Hunter Biden has a case coming up next week, and what was Joe Biden doing last weekend? | ||
| Meeting with Hallie, right? | ||
| Trying to tamper with the case and witnesses and all those things. | ||
| I mean, they're seeing this. | ||
| They're like, wait a minute. | ||
| This could be me. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you actually faced Hunter Biden. | ||
| Something I'm not sure that you and I have gotten an opportunity to talk about. | ||
| You were speaking to Hunter Biden in Congress. | ||
| What was that experience like? | ||
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Well, he showed up to Congress. | |
| During the hearing, yes. | ||
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Yeah, for that hearing. | |
| But he showed up with a Netflix camera crew. | ||
| And I went off. | ||
| I mean, I don't like to do that. | ||
| But occasionally, someone has earned it. | ||
| Hunter Biden earned my wrath and my ire that day. | ||
| And he shows up with his camera crew. | ||
| This is all one big joke. | ||
| No, this is the institution of Congress. | ||
| When you don't show up to testify, when we subpoena you. | ||
| You should be held in contempt and you should be hauled off to jail for that. | ||
| But instead, he made a mockery out of the system, which is what Joe Biden is doing. | ||
| It's the Biden family brand. | ||
| That is what they do. | ||
| They want to make a mockery out of the Constitution, out of Donald Trump and all the values that we stand for, all because they have a little TDS and they don't like some mean tweets, which is insane. | ||
| But people are slowly coming to their senses. | ||
| And I had a friend call a couple of weeks ago and they voted for Trump in 2016. | ||
| They didn't vote for president in 2020. | ||
| And they called and they said, we cannot have four more years of Joe Biden. | ||
| I'm back on the Trump train. | ||
| And by the way, a couple of my Democrat friends are going to join me. | ||
| They're not going to put it on social media, but we're all going to vote for Donald Trump in November. | ||
| And those are the people, Benny, that we have to go after and make sure they feel back at home in the Republican Party. | ||
| And they know all of the greatness that Donald Trump brings to the White House and the rest of the nation and the world. | ||
| Yeah, I just got chills. | ||
| ALX, my producer, can we get that tweet from yesterday where we show the Biden campaign rally versus Trump in Harlem? | ||
| So Joe Biden held the campaign. | ||
| You talk about... | ||
| Black, white Americans. | ||
| You're in a very diverse district. | ||
| Joe Biden is now desperately trying to appeal to black voters because they've totally abandoned him. | ||
| And he held a rally, if you can call it that, a rally yesterday where kids in Philadelphia were required to attend and it was completely and totally empty. | ||
| Yet Donald Trump's in Harlem and the overflow crowd is much bigger. | ||
| Then Joe Biden's entire rally yesterday reaching out and appealing to black voters. | ||
| Perhaps you could tell me how this erosion happened for Joe Biden. | ||
| And does he have a chance of winning back this demographic as as you regularly just pop it up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Joe Biden is quickly. | ||
| You can see here the difference. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, my gosh. | |
| That's I haven't seen this yet. | ||
| That's that is amazing. | ||
| That is so good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So this is here's the this is the this is the blacks for Biden. | ||
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Well, Joe Biden is losing black voters at about the same rate Donald Trump is gaining them. | |
| And so when you see this kind of movement happening, people are waking up and they are, look at what Donald Trump did from the pardons to prison reform. | ||
| I mean, when he was president in December of 2018, he did a massive prison reform bill, which helped a lot of people and helped black Americans, helped women, all these folks. | ||
| And he's done it. | ||
| He puts his money where his mouth is. | ||
| And people are saying, look, Joe Biden, he's a lifelong racist. | ||
| He didn't want his kids raised in a racial. | ||
| Jungle, according to his words, and you ain't black if you don't vote Democrat, right? | ||
| And so I think black voters, I would imagine, are starting to wake up and say, what has the Democrat Party done? | ||
| They've made promises for decades, but what have they actually done? | ||
| And they're learning, they're looking at Donald Trump, a man who loves freedom, who loves the Constitution, and realizing that kind of freedom and liberty makes the educational system better, gives people higher wages, better jobs, better education. | ||
| All of it was better under Donald Trump. | ||
| And you're seeing that reflected in these rallies in New York. | ||
| Congresswoman, you brought up that this is a federal issue. | ||
| Going back to the Trump trial, you brought up this is a federal issue. | ||
| You obviously... | ||
| You have authority as Article 1. You're the first article of the Constitution in Congress, your branch. | ||
| And so when you head back to Congress, according to this morning's Cook Political Report, Republicans are favored to keep the House and to win back the Senate, and Donald Trump is favored to be president. | ||
| Many in this audience and the chat right now are begging. | ||
| For congressional oversight over a system like this. | ||
| This would obviously, if you're saying this is a federal issue, I obviously agree with you. | ||
| What does that oversight look like from you? | ||
| You are obviously willing to confront Hunter Biden. | ||
| What would you do to this judge and this trial and this investigation? | ||
| How would you provide some type of resolution? | ||
| Because everybody is seeing how evil and corrupt and crooked this is. | ||
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Well, first, when it's all over and said and done, it is behind us and Donald Trump is president. | |
| We'll have a huge opportunity to go back and look at every single step of the way of what was happening, what injustices were done, what abuses of power were done. | ||
| And then from that standpoint, when you have hearings, there has to be some sort of legislative component, policy or bill or change to the system to make it to have more justice, to ensure that the abuses don't exist. | ||
| And we've got to call these people. | ||
| And heads have to roll. | ||
| People have to get fired. | ||
| We have to do something in this country. | ||
| I'm sick and tired of having a hearing, making us feel good. | ||
| We're on the right side of history. | ||
| No, that is no longer good enough. | ||
| We have to actually take action and make sure this never happens ever again. | ||
| And that's going to take finding Republicans that are going to have a backbone and have to make some tough calls, make some tough decisions, and maybe even some tough votes and hear these stories because The left doesn't want to hear this. | ||
| They have Trump derangement syndrome. | ||
| It's a mental health issue with a lot of these people. | ||
| And they just can't contemplate the reality. | ||
| And we have to bring the reality with facts, not fiction, and throw it back, but actually do something. | ||
| I don't want to see us hold hearings and investigate and then nothing come of it. | ||
| Like Benghazi, right? | ||
| Somebody should have been fired or some people should have been fired. | ||
| But we've got to actually... | ||
| Do something about it. | ||
| And that's what my biggest frustration is right now with Congress is we all talk a good game, but what are we actually, what are we going to do about it? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| I guess this leads to a question, which is enumerated by Donald Trump this morning in his comments, also by Jonathan Turley in his writings, that Hillary Clinton did this, but far worse. | ||
| So let's just focusing in on this crime. | ||
| She misallocated and misappropriated on her campaign finance forms the Russian dossier as a legal expense and then used it to smear Donald Trump in the media and planted that story. | ||
| And this is exactly what they're saying Donald Trump did. | ||
| Yet Hillary Clinton gets off by just paying a couple bucks to the FEC and it goes away forever. | ||
| Would you be open to looking more into some of the open criminalities of the protected class on the other side? | ||
| I think that's what generally would right the ship, is to learn that... | ||
| There's going to be a consequence for these styles of behavior? | ||
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Yeah, 100%. | |
| But it's not just the campaign finance discrepancies, right? | ||
| I mean, she did worse with classified information, having it on the server in her bathroom, using bleach bit and a hammer to destroy devices, right? | ||
| I mean, purposely obfuscating information from an investigation so it couldn't be found. | ||
| I mean, she's done far worse than any accusation anyone's ever accused Donald Trump of doing anything. | ||
| And every accusation really is a projection here with the left. | ||
| All of it should be on the table. | ||
| What's the standard? | ||
| Hold everybody to the standard. | ||
| I've taken some tough votes, Benny. | ||
| I mean, I've gotten in trouble from here and there from time to time. | ||
| I get primary for it. | ||
| But I try to have the same standard no matter Republican or Democrat. | ||
| And we have to be better than the left when we do get back in charge. | ||
| We have to put our money where our mouth is. | ||
| We have to do what we say we're going to do regarding the border, which we didn't do a few weeks ago with the foreign aid bill, with inflation and spending, with all of these things. | ||
| But also, we've got to make sure that whatever the rules are, what the Constitution says, It is applied equally to everybody, and that fixes the problem, but that takes people with courage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, let's see. | ||
| It seems to potentially be the single most rarest element in your profession, Congresswoman Courage. | ||
| Donald Trump is posting videos of him laughing behind the scenes and seems utterly unfazed. | ||
| Seems like he's aging in reverse. | ||
| You're very close with the president. | ||
| I assume that you speak with him regularly. | ||
| He's endorsed you. | ||
| Can you give us sort of a game plan, like heading into the next five months? | ||
| It's only five months. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Five months from now, Donald Trump will debate Joe Biden. | ||
| Donald Trump debased Joe Biden in 25 days. | ||
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I know. | |
| I cannot wait. | ||
| I mean, I don't care what time of night the debate ends. | ||
| I'm making my kids stay up to watch. | ||
| I cannot. | ||
| We're going to have full bowls of popcorn, soda, whatever they want, M&Ms. | ||
| We're watching that thing. | ||
| I cannot wait for that debate. | ||
| Cannot wait. | ||
| So considering what you know about the campaign and working with the president, what's sort of the path forward to victory? | ||
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Well, two things. | |
| Before I answer that question, I want to say one thing. | ||
| A couple weeks ago, I learned that Kevin McCarthy was spending $6 million against me. | ||
| We did the math on this thing. | ||
| In the middle of Donald Trump's trial, you know, over the days that he's been seeking, he has sought to ask. | ||
| How am I doing? | ||
| How are we doing? | ||
| What kind of support and help do you need right now? | ||
| And he retweeted or re-socialed his endorsement like two weeks ago because we had reached out and said, hey, this is happening. | ||
| And in the midst of everything, every challenge he has right now, he's not thinking about himself. | ||
| He's thinking about people that can keep the majority in the House, people that can flip the Senate. | ||
| He's thinking about what can we do to make our country great again. | ||
| He's not thinking about himself. | ||
| He's thinking about... | ||
| Us, as Americans, our nation, our country, he's very, very selfless. | ||
| And that's just like a behind-the-scenes thing. | ||
| I was like, how... | ||
| Thoughtful is that. | ||
| Despite everything that they're throwing at him, he wants to make sure that I'm doing okay and that I am going to win. | ||
| And that is the mark of a man that I haven't seen in my lifetime, right? | ||
| That he cares so much about his people and our country, that he wanted to check in with us and make sure we had everything that we needed to be successful, number one. | ||
| And then number two, the next five months, we've got... | ||
| We've got conservatives. | ||
| We've got traditional Republicans. | ||
| We have to go after the middle. | ||
| We have to go after the centrist. | ||
| We have to go after some of the libertarians. | ||
| We need to get people back into the fold to make sure that they vote and they vote for Donald Trump. | ||
| And that is the work that we're going to have to do on women, on African-Americans, black and brown Americans, making sure that it's not just a win in November. | ||
| This needs to be a mandate. | ||
| This needs to be... | ||
| Overwhelming so that Congress, the Senate. | ||
| The House, that we have a mandate to go put our money where our mouth is and do what we say we're going to do. | ||
| I'm done being just squishy and let's just be soft. | ||
| No, we need to actually deport illegals who are here. | ||
| We actually need to cut spending so we can stem the tide of inflation. | ||
| You know, we need to address women's issues, right? | ||
| And he is the man absolutely to do it. | ||
| But we got to get those center folks. | ||
| We got to get them into the fold. | ||
| We want them to vote. | ||
| We want them to vote for us. | ||
| Congresswoman, we are huge fans of yours on this program. | ||
| The audience is a huge fan of yours. | ||
| For those of you who are not aware of how fearless the Congresswoman is, we have just a little bit of a throwback here. | ||
| Just one more minute of your time. | ||
| Here's the clip of Congresswoman Mace confronting Hunter Biden to his face. | ||
| Everybody else on the committee sits silently as Hunter Biden goes walking in, making a mockery of Congress. | ||
| And this, ladies and gentlemen, this is the moment. | ||
| And keep in mind that Hunter Biden goes to trial in two weeks in Delaware for gun crimes, which is going to be a remarkable moment. | ||
| We hope you'll join us again. | ||
| Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the moment. | ||
| Chairman Comer. | ||
| First of all, my first question is, who bribed Hunter Biden to be here today? | ||
| That's my first question. | ||
| Second question, you are the epitome of white privilege, coming into the Oversight Committee, spitting in our face, ignoring a congressional subpoena to be deposed. | ||
| What are you afraid of? | ||
| You have no balls to come up here and... | ||
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Mr. Chairman, point of inquiry. | |
| Mr. Chairman, if the gentlelady wants to hear from Hunter Biden, we can hear from him right now, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Let's take a vote and hear from Hunter Biden. | ||
| What are you afraid of? | ||
| Are women allowed to speak in here or no? | ||
| Are women allowed to speak in here or no? | ||
| Could you keep interrupting me? | ||
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I'll interrupt the chairman. | |
| I don't know that he's a lady. | ||
| I think that Hunter Biden should be arrested right here, right now, and go straight to jail. | ||
| Our nation is founded on the rule of law and the premise that the law applies equally to everyone, no matter what your last... | ||
| Point of order, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, the great Congresswoman Mace from South Carolina... | ||
| Thank you for fighting. | ||
| We just love that clip. | ||
| Everybody needs to go follow. | ||
| 177,000 Americans can't be wrong. | ||
| And if you're in South Carolina, support Congresswoman Mace. | ||
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Thank you so much. | |
| NancyMace.org. | ||
| Thank you, Benny. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| you you you Ladies and gentlemen, really important stuff on the actual gears and mechanisms. | ||
| I know this is not... | ||
| Generally, our show to go and read deep legal theory or jury instructions is not typically what we spend time on doing. | ||
| But this is wild. | ||
| It is a rigged hunt against Donald Trump. | ||
| You have to read these instructions to fully understand it. | ||
| In just a moment, we're going to have the great Tom Fitton on our program, who's getting set right now, comment on it. | ||
| But here's just a reminder from Jesse Waters last night of what? | ||
| How rigged this trial truly is. | ||
| It defies, it defies the Constitution, and it defies common sense. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| Trump was going to call a witness to say this wasn't against the law. | ||
| A judge wouldn't let him. | ||
| So listen to what the judge told the jury. | ||
| The jury gets to pick what crime Trump's guilty of. | ||
| The 12 jurors don't even have to agree on which three charges he's guilty of. | ||
| It can just be one. | ||
| Or any one, two, three charge combination. | ||
| And the judge considers that a unanimous verdict. | ||
| Convicted. | ||
| It's like a crime buffet. | ||
| Twelve jurors can go to the buffet. | ||
| Each eat different things. | ||
| One juror just gets a salad. | ||
| The other jurors get meat and potatoes. | ||
| Other jurors get salad, meat, and potatoes. | ||
| All they have to do is agree on that their meal was delicious. | ||
| Even though they didn't even taste everyone else's food. | ||
| Fill your plate with misdemeanors, whatever you want, and we'll call it a felony. | ||
| This is the first time we've ever seen a case like this in the history of the American legal system and three non-unanimous misdemeanors make a former president and convicted felon. | ||
| Now, it's not like they found Trump with gold bars in his closet like Gold Bar Bob. | ||
| It's not like Trump filmed his crime spree like Hunter. | ||
| If I don't understand it and our lawyers don't understand it, How do you think the jury feels? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch joins the program live now. | ||
| I know that there is some real heavy reporting on fast food prices going up. | ||
| But this dollar menu Trump crime situation is beautiful. | ||
| Beyond my capacity to understand it, Tom, please help me figure out how they can select the McChicken and the McDouble and then six nuggets and Trump's guilty. | ||
| How does this menu of guilt work? | ||
| What the hell is going on? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| As Jesse's pointed out and virtually every lawyer who's looked at it, of course, I'm looking at it. | ||
| As head of Judicial Watch, I'm not a lawyer, but I've seen enough of this to know what doesn't make sense. | ||
| And I took the time to read the jury instructions. | ||
| They're available on the court's website. | ||
| And it's a rigged set of instructions. | ||
| It's designed to get the jury to the result of a guilty verdict. | ||
| Now, the only good news from reading those jury instructions... | ||
| Is that because they're making up the law as they go along and there's no good faith basis to accuse them of any of the crimes listed, certainly there was no evidence behind it, and the logic doesn't fit in the sense that, you know, which crime is at issue when and how does it fit in with the underlying issue of messing with documents, none of which has been shown, let alone proven. | ||
| It's so confusing. | ||
| I could imagine a juror or two or three saying, I'm not doing this. | ||
| This doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And I'm not signing on to this. | ||
| So, you know, that's the kind of the slim read I think Trump was probably hoping for, that it's so obviously convoluted and confusing that there's going to be a juror who says, well, you know, if I don't understand it, and they're supposed to make it so I do understand it. | ||
| Maybe there's something wrong here, and I'm not going to sign on to this rush to judgment by Judge Merchant, who demonstrates his anti-Trump bias in the way these instructions have been written and conveyed to the jury. | ||
| And throughout the trial, I just think the recap of the trial has just been... | ||
| Alarming, letting the government go last, not allowing any objections, letting the government have the final say. | ||
| Everything has been flipped, and the clear-eyed optimist, assuming that the American justice system is innocent until proven guilty, this seems to be the exact opposite. | ||
| No, and in my view, the fact that the jury is even considering these charges is like an indictment of the justice system and Judge Merchant's process. | ||
| Because in the ordinary course, after six weeks of a prosecution about nothing, a judge should have looked at the paucity of evidence and said, oh, well, there's nothing here to justify any guilty verdict, so I'm going to direct a verdict and tell the jury or direct the verdict, however one does that under New York law, to acquit President Trump. | ||
| But instead, He's not directing a verdict for acquittal, he's written the jury instructions in a way to almost ensure a conviction. | ||
| As I've been noting, it's the worst miscarriage of justice I've ever seen in American history, certainly in terms of a political prosecution like this. | ||
| And as far as I'm concerned, Robert De Niro... | ||
| I mean, everyone was kind of laughing and joking about his ridiculous performance. | ||
| And, you know, that's politics, right? | ||
| But if it were just politics, I'd be like, oh, yeah, it's just politics. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But it's that approach that's informing Judge Merchant and Alvin Bragg. | ||
| Throw out all this garbage about President Trump. | ||
| Trump is an innocent man. | ||
| Not only is he innocent, he didn't do anything wrong in terms of misconduct. | ||
| As alleged here, it's not even like, oh, well, that's distasteful, but it's legal. | ||
| No, he had a non-disclosure agreement with folks who might say bad things about him. | ||
| Nothing unusual about that. | ||
| And he paid his lawyer for legal expenses. | ||
| This is the thing that... | ||
| This is the bee in my bonnet and the thorn in my paw that I can't get my head around because I've done 15 years in the corporate press. | ||
| And the idea that Donald Trump's guilty of trying to kill a bad story about him. | ||
| What the hell is wrong? | ||
| What universe do you live in? | ||
| What powerful person... | ||
| Back to the times of Noah. | ||
| What powerful person doesn't want to stop... | ||
| No, I mean, | ||
| I go back to the beginning of the Clinton campaigns for his presidency where James Carville and George Stephanopoulos were out there suppressing so-called bimbo eruptions, smearing the women who were raising questions about what Bill Clinton was up to in terms of affairs and assault and such. | ||
| And then more recently, you had those 51 intel advisors, intelligence officials, deep staters, signing on to that fake letter about Hunter's laptop, trying to suppress that story, coordinated. | ||
| By the Trump campaign and Trump allies, excuse me, the Biden campaign. | ||
| Was that a reportable expenditure under the Federal Elections Commission? | ||
| If Trump is convicted, all bets are off in terms of prosecutions for all politicians who try to manipulate the media and don't report it on their FEC forms. | ||
| All sorts of local prosecutors can now begin. | ||
| But, of course, you know that's not going to be the case, right, Benny? | ||
| I mean, we say, well, if this happens, just think of what's going to happen to Democrats and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and Barack Obama. | ||
| Nothing's going to happen to them if the past is any prologue. | ||
| And so this is why I think Trump should commit. | ||
| And I would be public about it, you know, because I'm judicial watcher. | ||
| I say, you know, just tell people what you plan to do. | ||
| He should, if he wins the presidency or the next honest president. | ||
| I directly hire special counsel to investigate this abuse of him, this collusion, this conspiracy, to violate his civil rights and the civil rights of countless of other Americans under the color of law. | ||
| Yeah, so to that point, just talking about collusion, the true collusion here, this daughter of Judge Mershon, you don't have to be particularly high IQ. | ||
| I went to community college, but I'm alive and I notice things. | ||
| I'm a noticer. | ||
| And I'm noticing that she's making hundreds of millions of dollars from Democrats. | ||
| And that's not normally how political fundraising works. | ||
| Some 20-year-old who has no history in doing that doesn't suddenly get the biggest plum contracts for political fundraising from Democrats, particularly Democrats like Adam Schiff who are investigating Donald Trump. | ||
| And this seems like something that has been really orchestrated and kind of a mosaic that's been stitched together. | ||
| To get to this judge and to incentivize this judge to do everything possible, knowing that this would be one of the cases they'd need to bring against Trump, along with this judge also has Steve Bannon and Navarro and everybody. | ||
| Every big case that's brought in New York somehow goes to this judge. | ||
| This seems like they bought the guy off. | ||
| That's just what I'm noticing. | ||
| This seems like they buy their person. | ||
| I just think he's a Democratic activist. | ||
| He's a politician. | ||
| In judicial robes, he's made donations to the Biden campaign, extreme left campaign organizations that are anti-Trump and pro-Democrat. | ||
| And of course, there's nothing wrong with the Biden campaign getting donations from anyone but judges. | ||
| And he violated the rules, and he's been dinged by the Judicial Commission. | ||
| It's been confirmed in the last week or so. | ||
| It's leaked out. | ||
| Of course, he hasn't released the letter. | ||
| He's the only one who can disclose it. | ||
| Saying that dismissed the complaint against him with a caution, meaning there was a finding, based on my understanding of the rules, that he did what he was accused of doing, but they just gave him a slap on the wrist. | ||
| He won't even release that letter. | ||
| So we have a confirmation he wasn't punished. | ||
| And frankly, the way the rules work in New York is if you break the rules, even with a letter of caution, You know, next time around, that cannon will be used against you. | ||
| So he broke the rules again, I think, repeatedly in the trial, most notably in his eruption and his breakdown over Mr. Costello's testimony. | ||
| Screaming, clear the courtroom, throwing the media out, acting in a way that's not in accordance with the judicial cannons, where judges, you know, Benny, you can start yelling and screaming. | ||
| I can start yelling and screaming. | ||
| But if I'm a judge on the bench, I'd be breaking the rules because decorum is required of judges. | ||
| And you can be forceful and you can enforce the rules, but to lose it is an ethical lapse by him. | ||
| And this is on top of his demonstrated bias against Trump as evidenced by these donations and all these awful rulings, which are more legal questions. | ||
| So the man's bias is well documented. | ||
| His family using this trial to make a lot of money is well documented. | ||
| But what we're seeing now in these jury instructions is what seems to us, once again, just people with a pulse, right? | ||
| Observing things and noticing things seems blatantly unconstitutional. | ||
| Here, knowing that judicial watch is argued before the Supreme Court and you filed with the Supreme Court, you know the Supreme Court better than any, potentially, you know, any person in Washington. | ||
| Maybe you can sound off on this. | ||
| Here's the ruling that everybody's talking about this morning, Louisiana versus Ramos. | ||
| And in this ruling, they talk about unanimity in juries and what happens when there's a hung jury and what the... | ||
| What the stakes actually are, and nobody, this has been established law from the Supreme Court, yet Mershon seems to be defying the Supreme Court by saying there doesn't need to be unanimity. | ||
| You can just choose, you can choose the McChicken, McDouble, or the Chicken Nuggets, and I'll just mash them all together, right? | ||
| And everybody gets diabetes. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the dispute is, do they need to have a unanimous conclusion about what law allegedly he was trying to violate in messing with the records? | ||
| Avoiding the issue of whether he messed with the records is there's no evidence he did so. | ||
| There's, you know, that's where you're kind of in this undiscovered territory and not something that our public and our legal system is used to that it effectively leads to. | ||
| And if it does lead to this, then it's unconscionable. | ||
| One juror can decide that he violated a rule, a law. | ||
| The other 11 jurors can think he violated another rule. | ||
| In the ordinary course, that disagreement that would lead to a hung jury. | ||
| So one juror, in effect, can convict Trump. | ||
| And that's not the way our system is supposed to work. | ||
| You don't have separate legal decisions or jury verdicts on separate crimes. | ||
| And not only is not a majority required, you don't even need more than one juror, in effect. | ||
| I know we're tight on time, but can you please just unpack that? | ||
| So you don't need more than one juror. | ||
| Typically, the way that this has always been framed and the way that, you know, the iconography of the courtroom is there's one holdout, right? | ||
| There's one guy that says that this person's not guilty. | ||
| And there's entire Hollywood movies, right, about the 12 Angry Men. | ||
| But you're saying that this is in reverse for the Trump trial. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, typically, you know, they're pretending, the left is pretending, well, this is just like a burglary. | ||
| You know, you're just... | ||
| You just have to be caught going into a house illegally for other legal purposes, and you don't need to say what those legal purposes are. | ||
| But this isn't the same law. | ||
| The law is contingent on a disclosure and, frankly, a full explanation as to what law he was trying to violate through this alleged manipulation of records. | ||
| And the court has said there doesn't have to be a unanimous decision on what that law is. | ||
| And he went through the 444 analysis. | ||
| You have four jurors believe this was the law he was trying to violate. | ||
| This is the law, and this is the law. | ||
| Well, it doesn't have to be 444. | ||
| It could be 1 versus 11, or 2 versus 10. So it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And one of the laws is... | ||
| And this is what really struck me reading the jury instructions, is that there's a law that they can find him violating, which is messing with business records. | ||
| So they're being asked to find whether he messed with business records in order to violate a law to mess with business records. | ||
| That's Alice in Wonderland. | ||
| And frankly, I'm charitably describing the absurdity of the process there. | ||
| So, on appeal, just really quickly here, on appeal, what's going to happen here? | ||
| Well, the question is how quick it's going to go. | ||
| I mean, if he's convicted, look, Benny, I don't know what's going to happen if he's convicted. | ||
| I mean, if you're a defendant, the last thing you want to hear from your lawyer is, oh, don't worry if you're found guilty, we'll appeal. | ||
| What happens to you in the meantime? | ||
| Is he going to be... | ||
| Is he taken into custody? | ||
| Is he going to be jailed? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, house arrest with a gag to prevent him from campaigning, right? | ||
| You know, and Merchant's taken over our presidential campaign. | ||
| He's already gagged the campaign. | ||
| He's gagged Trump, the candidate. | ||
| And he's effectively running our presidential election by... | ||
| Suppressing the ability of the number one candidate, former president, to go out there. | ||
| And he did it through illicit means, meaning allowing charges that he knew should never have been allowed to go forward, and further trying to rig the trial in the various ways that have been explained by you and so many others. | ||
| What's interesting about this, Benny, and you kind of watch the liberal media more than I'm able to, is how few in the left media are defending this process. | ||
| The silence is deafening. | ||
| I mean, you get your nutjobs out there that hate Trump and will say anything that don't care if he's drawn and quartered. | ||
| But most of the normal liberal media is kind of aghast at this process. | ||
| And maybe the federal courts will intervene to try to undo this quickly so our campaigns can proceed. | ||
| But my concern is that the campaign's already been compromised. | ||
| I mean, he's been held hostage politically for six weeks. | ||
| We've been held hostage, too. | ||
| America has. | ||
| And the question is, is that compromise of our campaign system, is it going to impact the final outcome in the election in the way that will undermine confidence in the outcome? | ||
| It's such a great point. | ||
| It's such a dangerous moment. | ||
| You'd have to just assume that we don't live in a republic anymore, right? | ||
| And we live inside of a power struggle with a fascistic entity that just will not relinquish power, and they just don't care. | ||
| The place can burn over the ashes, will rule over the ashes. | ||
| That's a true definition of evil. | ||
| Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch is somebody who actually does fight. | ||
| He's a bulldog. | ||
| Don't get into a fight with him. | ||
| You know, as you can see here, he'll knock you out. | ||
| But Tom Fitton is somebody who actually does legitimately try and keep this country free and safe by working through the judicial systems at Judicial Watch. | ||
| 2.6 million followers. | ||
| Can't be wrong. | ||
| Head over to X. Give him a follow. | ||
| And make sure you support Judicial Watch. | ||
| Thanks, Benny. | ||
| Thanks, Tom. | ||
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| you you So, ladies and gentlemen, we move through this wild moment in American history with extreme trepidation and a bit of anger at what's happened. | ||
| Also, something that continues to sort of boggle the mind here is that None of it's working, right? | ||
| I mean, they may be able to lock up Donald Trump, but people have won elections from prison before. | ||
| Donald Trump's campaign spokesperson, Caroline Leavitt, making this point. | ||
| Yesterday, Donald Trump said he'd be happy to run from prison. | ||
| Remember, you should only ever vote for somebody that's willing to die for his political beliefs. | ||
| That's a proud tradition in this nation. | ||
| Caroline Leavitt talking about the backfire. | ||
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Be careful what you wish for, Jesse. | |
| This is a classic example of that. | ||
| I'm not sure when the Democrats are going to realize, do not underestimate Donald Trump. | ||
| He will fight through everything. | ||
| He fought through two hoax impeachments. | ||
| He fought through the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. | ||
| He fought through endless investigations into his family, into his business, into himself as president. | ||
| Now as a candidate, they've confined him to this courtroom for six weeks, and he's stronger than ever. | ||
| I was with the guy all day today. | ||
| He's in great spirits. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he knows he ultimately has the truth on his side and he's going to be vindicated. | ||
| And the Democrats know that, too. | ||
| They don't have a case. | ||
| They don't have a crime. | ||
| They concocted this entire trial to put it on in the media capital of the world here in New York in an attempt to weed. | ||
| Yeah, it isn't working. | ||
| But what would work is if they put Donald Trump under house arrest in New York. | ||
| And that seems to be what the goal would be, unless they get a hung jury today. | ||
| Once again, the jury deliberating right now, if anything changes, we'll cut right over. | ||
| But the jury deliberating right now, if Donald Trump's under House arrest, how would he even debate Joe Biden in Atlanta, right? | ||
| Is Joe Biden going to have to come to Trump Tower? | ||
| If Donald Trump has a gag order that continues, then how would Donald Trump be able to run for president? | ||
| We've never seen anything like this. | ||
| Joining us from the great state of Texas, Congressman Troy Nels to comment. | ||
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| you you Congressman, we are and were deeply hoping for you to be wearing your Donald Trump hugging the American flag tie. | ||
| We do have photos of you wearing that incredible tie to put up, but this is a moment where We really do fear for what the future of this country is. | ||
| This trial seems unbelievably rigged in a way that would potentially require something to be done about this broken system. | ||
| Can you comment on what could potentially happen here to Donald Trump if found guilty? | ||
| Well, Benny, thank you for having me. | ||
| And yes, I do wear Trump ties. | ||
| It's the only tie I wear until November 5th. | ||
| But I put something out yesterday and I said, you know, we have a compromised, a convicted judge. | ||
| He is dangerous. | ||
| This is a dangerous game. | ||
| I think that the left is playing. | ||
| I think this is reaching the highest levels in our government all the way to Joe Biden. | ||
| This is concocted between him, Alvin Bragg, and everyone else against Donald Trump. | ||
| Because they know the American people support Donald Trump. | ||
| The polls show it, that Donald Trump is going to be the 47th president, and they're going to do everything they can to try to damage and keep Donald Trump off the campaign trail. | ||
| I said it last week up there in New York. | ||
| It's election interference at its core. | ||
| They are so scared of this guy. | ||
| They are scared of Donald Trump. | ||
| And they're going to do everything they can to keep him off the campaign trail. | ||
| It's not going to work, Benny. | ||
| This is backfiring with that knucklehead De Niro up there yesterday. | ||
| That didn't work out too good either, did it? | ||
| You stood. | ||
| You stood in probably the exact same place that Robert De Niro stood. | ||
| You wore this tie. | ||
| We were big fans of it. | ||
| We were big fans of your commentary. | ||
| And I guess I'd like to ask, this does seem to be backfiring. | ||
| I mean, when the Biden campaign... | ||
| It has to do campaign rallies outside of the courthouse. | ||
| And when Joe Biden's planning on giving a speech from the White House, from the Oval Office about this, these seem like desperation ploys. | ||
| This seems like a desperation attempt as the jury still remains out in this verdict. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| And they are desperate. | ||
| They've been going after Donald Trump now for years. | ||
| They've gone after him for years. | ||
| They looked at Russia, Russia, Russia, his impeachment. | ||
| Donald Trump, understand America, Donald Trump runs on motor oil. | ||
| He's a machine. | ||
| Donald Trump is a machine. | ||
| I've never met a man, seen a man, be able to handle the stress that this far left has placed upon Donald Trump with all these different indictments, sham impeachments, all of it. | ||
| He just keeps bouncing back. | ||
| He has Teflon. | ||
| He has Teflon. | ||
| Everything bounces off Donald Trump. | ||
| And I agree with Laura Trump earlier. | ||
| She was on Fox News and said, you know, this guy, nothing phases him. | ||
| Nothing phases Donald Trump. | ||
| He loves this country. | ||
| He loves the American people. | ||
| And he's doing this for you and I, Benny. | ||
| He's doing it for you and I. He's doing it for our children, our grandchildren, and the future of this country. | ||
| He could just go home and live his billionaire life. | ||
| He doesn't choose to do so. | ||
| He does it because he loves this country, and that's why America loves him, and he's going to be the 47th president. | ||
| He is. | ||
| So you've been saying that on this program for years, sir, and now every single poll seems to confirm that you're right. | ||
| This backfire, it's pretty historic. | ||
| The more they do this to Donald Trump, the more popular he gets. | ||
| Are you seeing that in your district? | ||
| Are you seeing that on the trail? | ||
| He is. | ||
| I'm in the district office today, and I've been speaking to people. | ||
| I was at an event last night. | ||
| I'm going to speak to a couple hundred tonight, senior citizens in the Del Webb community. | ||
| And what I've been hearing is what they're doing is wrong. | ||
| And they believe what I believe and what you believe. | ||
| This is working against, this is backfiring on the Democrats to bring up that. | ||
| Robert De Niro? | ||
| Who cares what the hell Robert De Niro says, right? | ||
| I just think it's backfiring. | ||
| I think they are very desperate right now. | ||
| They don't like the polls. | ||
| They don't like the polling they're seeing in the swing states. | ||
| They know they're not going to keep the Senate. | ||
| They're going to lose the Senate. | ||
| We're going to continue to keep the House if we behave. | ||
| If we behave. | ||
| And Donald Trump, we're going to have all three branches. | ||
| And then we're going to have to go up there. | ||
| And my humble opinion, we're going to have to clean house. | ||
| We're going to have to clean house and straighten this country out. | ||
| And the American people know there's one guy that can do it. | ||
| There's one guy. | ||
| It's Donald Trump. | ||
| Would you be in favor of a special counsel investigation into the collusion and coordination between the Biden White House and these trials? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Once we get back into the White House, there needs to be a lot of special counsels. | ||
| There needs to be a lot of investigations going on with the DOJ, the FBI. | ||
| The J6ers is another one, and what they've done to the J6ers. | ||
| We need to investigate the select committee. | ||
| Just because the select committee is gone, Benny Thompson is no longer there. | ||
| We need to investigate the select committee and look at what they've done with potential destruction of evidence and everything else. | ||
| The judges need to be investigated. | ||
| Letitia James, phony Fannie Willis, Jack Smith, all of them. | ||
| They all need to be under investigation because what we've seen being done to Donald Trump, it's never happened before. | ||
| Never happened before. | ||
| And I think this is, again, a very dangerous game they're playing. | ||
| And it's not good for America. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| I would caution the judge to be, you know, you've got to be careful what you do here and what you say. | ||
| If they convict him and they go to a sentencing hearing, I would be very, very careful. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So then what does that look like for congressional oversight, sir, considering the fact that the Cook Political Report does say that Republicans will keep Congress for the first time ever this morning? | ||
| Along with take the Senate and deliver the White House for Donald Trump. | ||
| So it seems like the wind is at your back. | ||
| The odds are in your favor. | ||
| And many in this audience would say, well, you know, what are you going to do about it? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| And what you've seen and I don't think we've done very well. | ||
| I'm just being honest with you. | ||
| I'm a Freedom Caucus guy. | ||
| And I love the fact that the American people gave us the gavel back and we've had the speakership now. | ||
| But look at how we've behaved. | ||
| You know, we got rid of a speaker and now we got a speaker that's, you know, everything we seem to do is done through with Democrat support. | ||
| So we can't accomplish anything on our own and everything is watered down because we need Democrats to support us. | ||
| And so I think we're in a little bit of trouble. | ||
| If the American people give us the gavel back or keep the gavel, I think we ought to behave. | ||
| We ought to behave and we ought to pass strong legislation. | ||
| In support of the president. | ||
| So if Donald Trump says we need to move in this direction as it relates to border security, inflation, energy, we need to follow suit and take that lead. | ||
| That's what we need to do. | ||
| And the path forward for Donald Trump, five months to the general election, 25 days to a CNN debate. | ||
| Will you be there, Congressman? | ||
| You seem to be at Trump's side pretty regularly. | ||
| Yeah, I think June 24th, I think, is a good thing. | ||
| That's a calculated risk, I believe, that Joe Biden's playing. | ||
| Somebody told him, Joe, you're behind in all the polls in the swing states. | ||
| We're going to give you a little shot of adrenaline, and hopefully you can stay awake and speak coherently. | ||
| But you're going to have to debate Donald Trump. | ||
| But I believe June 24th is Election Day. | ||
| I think Donald Trump is going to clobber him. | ||
| I think Donald Trump is going to be able to talk about his record. | ||
| When he first ran, he didn't really have a record. | ||
| We can't look at the 2020 election because it was just everything was COVID. | ||
| But Donald Trump is going to talk about his four years of accomplishments. | ||
| And if he stays on subject and talk about inflation, interest rates, security, border, no wars, everything was great across the globe. | ||
| If he does that, the American people are going to listen. | ||
| And they're going to say, we need to bring back Donald J. Trump because everything was great. | ||
| And look at where we are today. | ||
| So I think Election Day is June 24th, quite honestly. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is a pretty big endorsement of a CNN debate. | ||
| It'll be three against one. | ||
| Well, seemingly, it seems like Donald Trump had 12 against one in the courthouse today. | ||
| It doesn't seem to have broken the man. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how it's possible, but he seems to grab this energy, and it just gives him more energy. | ||
| It's a remarkable thing. | ||
| Congressman, thank you so very much for joining the program. | ||
| I've got one guy. | ||
| Listen, I've got to introduce somebody real quick, okay? | ||
| I'm going to introduce somebody to you. | ||
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Come on in here. | |
| Oh, hey, how you doing? | ||
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I'm good. | |
| How are you? | ||
| Nice to meet you. | ||
| What's your name? | ||
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My name's Tori. | |
| What do you want to tell Benny? | ||
| Look up on that screen now. | ||
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You're great. | |
| Your viewers are great. | ||
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And we love you so much. | |
| And I have only one thing to say. | ||
| Trump 2024, baby! | ||
| Oh, that's beautiful! | ||
| Benny, she's great! | ||
| She got the opportunity to kiss the president on the cheek up there in Bedminster a couple months ago. | ||
| She loves him. | ||
| She's the greatest young Republican ever. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| Tori, really quickly, what was it like meeting Trump? | ||
| What did he say to you? | ||
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He was just really nice, and he complimented my nails. | |
| He was just a nice guy. | ||
| Yeah, and did you get a chance to talk with him? | ||
| He said you have nice nails? | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
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| What color were they? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think they were Bayes or something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Benny, you're great. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| Not to get too far into it, but no young person has a nice experience when they're in the same room as Joe Biden. | ||
| Why keep her away from Joe Biden? | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| Thank you, Benny. | ||
| No, really. | ||
| God bless you for what you do, Benny. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| You're reaching people. | ||
| This is what it's going to take. | ||
| The dishonest media know they're the greatest threat to our country, but it's individuals like you and your listeners that are out talking to people and spreading truth. | ||
| And so we got to pray for our country. | ||
| Pray today for Donald Trump. | ||
| And let's just hope there's one clear-minded individual in that jury that will see this sham trial and this compromised judge for what it truly is. | ||
| It's a kangaroo court. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| Say a prayer. | ||
| Say a prayer. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, for fathers, for people with children, for the future of this country, and for the congressmen fighting aside Donald Trump. | ||
| Godspeed, Tory, and Congressman Troy Nels. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| blessings. | ||
| you you All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are rocking and rolling. | ||
| What is the update out of the court? | ||
| The jury is back into deliberation mode. | ||
| Inside of the court, we tell you the truth. | ||
| We are going to be live. | ||
| We are going to be live for whatever happens in this courtroom. | ||
| Many handicappers in the legal profession are saying that a hung jury is a big-time possibility here. | ||
| The longer this trial goes on, the more questions they have for the judge, the more they ring the judge. | ||
| And the more they say, what the hell are you talking about here? | ||
| Like, what are these rules? | ||
| What is this stuff? | ||
| The more that happens, the greater the possibility, ladies and gentlemen, that there is just going to be one juror, and that is what it's going to take. | ||
| One juror to just say, no, Donald Trump's not guilty on any of these things. | ||
| You can't even elucidate a crime. | ||
| You haven't even told us what crime he's committed. | ||
| The crime he committed was trying to kill a bad news story? | ||
| Like, every person on Earth? | ||
| Who's ever run for politics or has ever been famous? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it is an absolutely rigged trial. | ||
| And this is what's at stake. | ||
| What's actually on trial here is the American system. | ||
| What's actually on trial here is the future for your family, your children. | ||
| And the true verdict will be on November 5th of 2024. | ||
| Now joining us in just a moment is going to be the great Carrie Lake, who's running to help flip the Senate red. | ||
| Carrie Lake joining the program momentarily. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, last night, Eric Trump, who has stood so strongly beside his father, and who is not a deeply, not a man who's prone to, he's a very, like, sound, very confident, very in control man. | ||
| Eric Trump showed last night some emotion on Fox News. | ||
| Eric Trump saying, It's like to watch your father go through all of this, but there's a happy ending here. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| You know, Sean, sometimes I'm angry. | ||
| Sometimes I'm numb to it. | ||
| I mean, I watch my father go in there every single day and fight for his life, literally fight for his life against bogus charges. | ||
| I've said it on the show. | ||
| I've said it on others. | ||
| No one believes that $130,000 from eight years ago for a perfectly legal NDA booked a legal expense to a personal longtime lawyer booked as a legal expense. | ||
| is a crime where a former president and the frontrunner for a Republican Party is charged with 34 felony counts. | ||
| No one believes it. | ||
| Donald Trump had never been charged with a crime in his life. | ||
| In his life. | ||
| Donald Trump is 77 years old. | ||
| I think I'm counting correctly there. | ||
| And now suddenly, after announcing that he's running for president again, and after winning in every poll, Donald Trump is... | ||
| Facing 700 years in prison and 91 felony. | ||
| Do you think you live in a free country? | ||
| Somebody who's been fighting for freedom and has been doing so in a way that is very mama bear is the great fighter out of the hot deserts of Arizona. | ||
| Carrie Lake joins the program now. | ||
| Great introduction. | ||
| I love it, Benny. | ||
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| You are somebody who has a family. | ||
| You're somebody who speaks with a lot of family, a lot of parents. | ||
| And it could potentially destroy the country, this ruling against the president. | ||
| You're somebody who's decided to run for office and you've done so in such like a... | ||
| A brave way, and you've stood against some pretty corrupt systems yourself. | ||
| And it seems like what's happening to Donald Trump is trying to prevent people from ever wanting to run for office again. | ||
| To say, like, if you don't comply, then we'll destroy you, and we don't even need a crime. | ||
| And that seems like what's really happening in New York. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Well, I can say from my own experience what I've learned... | ||
| Call me naive. | ||
| I studied history growing up. | ||
| My dad was a history teacher. | ||
| And I thought that we had a right to step forward and run for office as citizens. | ||
| We need more citizen politicians. | ||
| And I can tell you from my experience, when I stepped into the arena... | ||
| Maybe I was naive in thinking that. | ||
| I learned very quickly that, no, indeed, you can't. | ||
| If you are not a pre-approved candidate by the swamp, they will do everything to try to bring you down. | ||
| And thankfully for President Trump, I'd seen what happened to him, the eight-year smear campaign they've led to try to do a character assassination on one of the greatest men in our history, one of the greatest fighters in our history. | ||
| Had I not known what they had done to President Trump, I probably would have given up. | ||
| But then I realized very early on, they're doing the same thing to me that they've done to President Trump because they are so afraid of outsiders who are not controlled by the system, who they don't control the vote and the policy of that person. | ||
| That person is working for we the people. | ||
| And so we've watched this as President Trump has been attacked relentlessly. | ||
| You just showed that clip of the amazing Eric Trump, one of the... | ||
| One of the awesome children that President Trump has raised. | ||
| And the whole family's been dragged through the mud for eight years because they're trying to stop him. | ||
| They're so afraid he's going to get in there and bring down this corrupt system. | ||
| And thankfully, he is going to get in there and do exactly that. | ||
| And we're watching these really evil people on the last throes of their control and power. | ||
| I think they're losing their power and we're watching them go down right now. | ||
| Quite glorious to watch this in a way, to watch people like Robert De Niro have a crying fit outside the courtroom. | ||
| I mean, this is just nothing that they're doing, Benny, is working. | ||
| They can roll out all the Robert De Niros they want. | ||
| The people aren't buying what they're selling anymore. | ||
| I'm so happy that you were able to join the program today because I wanted to speak about a certain element that they are trying to manipulate and weaponize against Donald Trump in this prosecution, which is he killed a bad story about him. | ||
| Now, you have a long and history career in media and in press, and that is what you did for the better part of the last 30 years? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is how the people of Arizona know you and love you. | ||
| Is it normal for celebrities or politicians or powerful people or literally anybody to just simply try and prevent a bad news story from coming out about them? | ||
| Because in the trial, the government and the state of New York attempted to tell the jury that this isn't normal and that they'd never seen anything like this. | ||
| Ever before in their lives. | ||
| Well, I didn't work for tabloid news, but you know, in the grand scheme of things, I'm looking at all of the mainstream media, and maybe it is all tabloid, because frankly, it's a bunch of propaganda. | ||
| I will tell you this, I mean, we will get wind that a reporter is working on a story, maybe on our campaign, and we find out it's a lie, it's bogus, it's not truthful, and we call that reporter and we call him out. | ||
| Now, what would you say that we're killing a story? | ||
| No, we're trying to get things factual and make sure that they're on the up and up. | ||
| But I mean, you know, it's interesting, Benny, in just the last couple of hours, the jury asked to have some of that testimony repeated to them from that publisher. | ||
| And I don't know the exact wording of it, but that publisher basically said, look, President Trump at the time, Donald Trump said he didn't want to do that because it always gets out. | ||
| That kind of stuff never stays quiet. | ||
| It always gets out if you do that. | ||
| But I will I will say in tabloid news, I'm assuming that's quite common. | ||
| That's real common, I'm sure, in tabloid news. | ||
| So what's also quite common is, again, as you alluded to, outsiders get the machine. | ||
| Attempts to destroy outsiders with an immune reaction. | ||
| And they've come after you. | ||
| You're running for Senate. | ||
| To God's ears, Carrie Lake for Senate. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| We must take back the Senate. | ||
| Now the Cook Political Report is saying that Republicans will take back the Senate. | ||
| But you've faced a dirty, filthy race. | ||
| It has been dirty, but you know, I ran for governor. | ||
| We ran an incredible race, started an amazing movement here in Arizona. | ||
| That movement is still going strong. | ||
| I'm inspired by President Trump's tenacity, his unwillingness to flinch, his unwillingness to show any weakness and give in to these really... | ||
| On American people who are trying to drag him down. | ||
| And so he's inspired me. | ||
| We're running and we're running a great race right now. | ||
| We're running against somebody who I call him a Joe Biden mini-me. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| I mean, Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of our country. | ||
| Now imagine him being 40 years younger. | ||
| And having, you know, 40 more years in the tank, I just can't even fathom it. | ||
| But that's what I'm running against, a guy who has been aligned with Joe Biden 100% of the time. | ||
| And he's 40 years younger than Joe Biden. | ||
| He's against the border wall, called the dumb and stupid. | ||
| He's pro-sanctuary city. | ||
| He wants to give everybody invading our country citizenship and asylum and voting rights. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine 12 million people right now pouring into our country, all of them getting voting rights? | ||
| That's the only way, frankly, this destructive Democrat regime can win, is if they coax these people who are pouring across our border to vote for them. | ||
| And so we're in a battle out here. | ||
| We've got to get the Senate for President Trump. | ||
| We're going to see President Trump return to the White House. | ||
| It's going to be the greatest thing for the United States of America. | ||
| He needs to have the majority in the Senate, however, because as you know, And imagine for a second, | ||
| I don't mean to get people down or give you like a horror show here, but... | ||
| Imagine Chuck Schumer and the Democrats control the Senate. | ||
| First of all, none of those appointments will get through. | ||
| They will try to impeach President Trump within three to six months and drag our country through hell. | ||
| So this is incredibly important. | ||
| There's no path to victory. | ||
| Without Arizona, we are at ground zero for so many of the big issues of the day. | ||
| Obviously, the border crisis is huge, the economy. | ||
| Very few places in America have been affected as much as Phoenix, Arizona, which is right there where my opponent, Ruben Gallego, is the sitting congressman. | ||
| He has the fastest-growing homeless population in his district. | ||
| That's his vision for the entire state of Arizona, get people destitute, in despair. | ||
| On drugs and feeling that there's no hope. | ||
| And so we need to get him out of Congress, retire him from Washington, D.C., and bring about some true American patriots into Washington, D.C. President Trump, myself, and many others are running right now. | ||
| And I'm excited. | ||
| I'm excited for what lies ahead for America once we get through this really ugly chapter of watching the deep state throw this hissy fit as they go down. | ||
| Yeah, so they did throw a hissy fit. | ||
| And one of the most shocking legal filings I've ever seen in my life, outside of maybe this Trump trial, is a legal filing from the Biden DOJ against the state of Arizona. | ||
| I think we can grab and pull it up. | ||
| It's pretty easily searchable. | ||
| Saying, no, you're not allowed to ask people if they're American citizens to vote. | ||
| And they just say it. | ||
| They just say it. | ||
| And they sued the state of Arizona and they won because Arizona put a citizenship question on whether you can vote in an election. | ||
| Now, they rigged an election against you. | ||
| There's absolutely no doubt in my mind. | ||
| And they broke the machines. | ||
| And they ensured and did everything possible to ensure that you wouldn't be declared the winner at 7 p.m. on election night in Arizona. | ||
| I was physically there. | ||
| I was supposed to talk. | ||
| I was emceeing your election night party. | ||
| And you get sort of that knot in your gut and you're like, I just can't. | ||
| You know, it just reminds you of 2020 again. | ||
| And my question to you is this. | ||
| What's to prevent them from doing that again in the state of Arizona? | ||
| Isn't it interesting that the government is fighting because they want to have people here illegally vote? | ||
| I mean, everything's just being, people's eyes are opening up right now to how corrupt the government is. | ||
| You're looking at this. | ||
| We're fighting. | ||
| We've got several lawsuits that are in the works. | ||
| We have to go through the courts. | ||
| Unfortunately, that's our only means of being able to fight this. | ||
| And while we're not always taking a victory every time, we are exposing what they are doing. | ||
| You know, our court case, when they... | ||
| Rigged Election Day and sabotaged, frankly, Election Day, taking the sacred vote and trampling it of the citizens of Arizona. | ||
| Everyone knows it's a fraud. | ||
| I mean, everyone knows that even the people who are sitting in these offices, they all know what happened on the election in 22 here in Arizona was fraudulent and wrong. | ||
| And so we're continuing to fight it and we're exposing it. | ||
| You know, sometimes the court of public opinion is more powerful than in the corrupt courts. | ||
| Look at what's happening to President Trump. | ||
| Nobody could look at what's happening in New York City and say that Judge Mershon is fair. | ||
| Is ethical. | ||
| Nobody could do that. | ||
| If you are honest with yourself, nobody can say that. | ||
| We've had that same problem here in the courts in Arizona. | ||
| People who aren't ethical, people who aren't courageous to do the right thing, but we're exposing what they did. | ||
| When we showed that video of them rolling out the machines... | ||
| Without the media present, without observers present, tearing off the security tape on all of the electronic machines, pulling out the memory card, reinserting a new memory card, and then rolling those machines out on election day, where 60% of the polling locations failed, the machines didn't work. | ||
| That's unacceptable. | ||
| And we've shown the people how that happened. | ||
| We're giving them fewer ways to cheat, basically, because once you reveal and show people how they cheated, Very quickly, they have to come up with new ways. | ||
| And I'm not saying they won't come up with new ways, but guess what they're going to have to go up against? | ||
| Massive, huge voter turnout, unlike anything we've ever seen before. | ||
| We are going to see people who haven't voted in their entire lives show up to vote. | ||
| And as President Trump says, we'll make it too big to rig and we will swamp them. | ||
| Too big to rig is my favorite campaign slogan so far this year. | ||
| Without question, my favorite campaign slogan. | ||
| Too big to rig. | ||
| Build the wall, drill, baby, drill. | ||
| President Trump knows how to brand policy and make it very simple. | ||
| And that's one of his great talents. | ||
| So as somebody who had your cowardly opponent, Katie Hobbs, refused to debate you. | ||
| And I think I know exactly why, because it seems like they have the system wired against you anyway, so why risk it? | ||
| Now Joe Biden is out banging the drums, demanding a debate. | ||
| And in 25 days, we're going to get a debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. | ||
| What would be your advice? | ||
| My advice to President Trump, my advice to Joe Biden is, ooh, I don't know, probably don't do it because he's not going to do very well. | ||
| But I don't think President Trump needs any advice. | ||
| He's going to go in there. | ||
| His instincts are so good. | ||
| I think he's got, not only is he a high IQ, but he's got high social IQ. | ||
| And we've seen it in his past debates. | ||
| All those other candidates would go in and test out the podium and check out what the lay of the land was. | ||
| And he just showed up and instinctively knew. | ||
| How to deal with the people. | ||
| And we watched as he knocked down and defeated, I think it was, what, 18 different opponents, and then he took care of Hillary Clinton as well. | ||
| So I think he's going to be great. | ||
| You know, Biden has destroyed our country. | ||
| President Trump left it in pretty good shape. | ||
| He left it in great shape other than COVID, but we know there's a lot of shenanigans behind COVID as well that he could probably call out Biden on. | ||
| So I think he's going to be great. | ||
| I'm looking forward to debating my opponent, Ruben Gallego. | ||
| I wonder if he'll have the courage. | ||
| I've already challenged him to one debate, and within 10 minutes he said no. | ||
| This is the Democrat playbook, Benny. | ||
| They roll out candidates who are... | ||
| They control. | ||
| They aren't good. | ||
| They have no policy. | ||
| They hide in the basement. | ||
| They cower. | ||
| And then they have little things they try in the election to get them elected. | ||
| But I think this go-around, they're going to have a harder time. | ||
| They can't do the 3 a.m. vote drop. | ||
| They can't do the sabotage of Election Day. | ||
| More people are going to show up, vote early, vote on Election Day than we've ever seen in our country. | ||
| And this is the reason they're trying to use lawfare now. | ||
| To go after President Trump in four different jurisdictions. | ||
| They're trying to lock him up for life. | ||
| They're coming after me with lawfare. | ||
| I've got a bunch of, you know, a dozen Soros-Obama linked attorneys that are coming after me for telling people. | ||
| How this election was rigged. | ||
| And they're going to come after every one of us. | ||
| If the people don't stand up right now, I'm encouraged, by the way, when I see these celebrities finally and others who are saying, yeah, I'm voting for President Trump. | ||
| We're starting to see the tipping point where it's coming back around and it's going to go fast and people are going to start being emboldened to say I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| I'm voting for Lake. | ||
| I'm voting for America first. | ||
| We want to take our country back. | ||
| And as soon as that happens and businesses start saying, heck yeah, we're America first. | ||
| And if we lose a couple of customers over it, we're okay with that. | ||
| The sooner we get to that point, the sooner they realize there's no way they can rig this thing. | ||
| It will truly be too big to rig. | ||
| So I encourage everyone to go out, wear your MAGA hat. | ||
| Go out, be proud to be America first, and be proud to stand up for the president that we have and President Trump who's willing to fight for we the people. | ||
| We're so lucky to be here at this moment in history, Benny. | ||
| We're so lucky to have a fighter like President Trump. | ||
| But to imagine that... | ||
| Are you thinking I'm going to let you get a word in, by the way, Benny? | ||
| I mean, I just love listening to you talk. | ||
| Because I'm from Iowa. | ||
| 30 years as the sound voice of Arizona. | ||
| On TV news, you can just sit back and you're like, she's telling the truth. | ||
| I'm telling the truth. | ||
| Well, let me just say one thing about this case. | ||
| It should send a shiver down the spine of everybody in New York and frankly, everybody across the country, especially in these corrupt cities and municipalities and counties. | ||
| Now, I don't say just states because there's red states with big blue cities in them that are corrupt. | ||
| Everybody who owns a business, whether it be a small business, a large business, or who is CEO or CFO of a corporation, this case should send a shiver down your spine. | ||
| We're talking about a bookkeeping dispute. | ||
| One line of a bookkeeping dispute that could send a man to prison for life. | ||
| A bookkeeping dispute that comes with a lifetime sentence. | ||
| This is a time for everyone to stand up and say enough is enough. | ||
| And when they realize that the people are not with them in such huge numbers, this is when we finally get to take our country back. | ||
| Yeah, such an important moment to recognize that this is what America is all about. | ||
| The founding of Arizona, the cowboy spirit, the like, F you, you won't tell me what to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're going to tell me who to vote for? | ||
| You're going to say you can't vote for this guy because we put him in jail? | ||
| I am going to crawl over broken flaming glass to vote for this guy, and I will punch the button until my fingers bleed. | ||
| Like, to vote for this man because you told me not to. | ||
| And I think that's being revitalized right now in America. | ||
| It's really exciting. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| We're starting to see. | ||
| It's a tipping point right now, as I said. | ||
| But, you know, shame on. | ||
| I'm going to be a little bit of a mom right now. | ||
| Shame on a lot of people, though. | ||
| And not you, Benny. | ||
| And I've always been very outspoken for President Trump, who in that first term, when he was doing so much for our country. | ||
| People didn't have the boldness and courage to step out and speak out before him. | ||
| I remember he'd invite people to the White House, a company to the White House, and a company would show up and immediately the trolls on Twitter, and we all know that they were probably paid trolls, would go after that company and try to cancel people. | ||
| And that's when I wish we would have stood up and said, cancel me, I don't care. | ||
| I'm supporting this man because he's putting our country first. | ||
| But it's taken a while. | ||
| We've built up, and the straw that broke the camel's back is different for everybody. | ||
| For some people, it was watching that kind of censorship and control. | ||
| They didn't like it, and they spoke out. | ||
| For others, it was COVID when they had to force masks on our children and took them out of schools and forced shots in our needles in our arms and all of that. | ||
| For some people, they're just now waking up when they go to Taco Bell and they find out it's $100 to buy a meal for your family. | ||
| That could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. | ||
| But one thing is certain. | ||
| They want us so talking about these ridiculous cases. | ||
| It's a witch hunt. | ||
| Everyone knows it. | ||
| Because they don't want us talking about the invasion on our border. | ||
| They don't want us talking about the millions of people pouring across, taking housing from citizens here who need it. | ||
| They're boosting up the price of rent. | ||
| They don't want us talking about the fact that hardworking Arizonans, Americans, and taxpayers are footing the bill for these people's housing, giving them job permits so they can drive our wages down, food, clothing, shelter, health care. | ||
| We are paying for that. | ||
| And they don't want us talking about the economy that Joe Biden has sent straight into the toilet. | ||
| And they don't want us talking about the wars that are starting up. | ||
| And they don't want us talking about what's happening to our children with this brainwashing that's going on and absolute mutilation of their perfect bodies. | ||
| That's what they don't want us talking about. | ||
| And that's why they're trying to distract us. | ||
| And we have to keep a laser beam focus going the next six months. | ||
| Because if we think it's going to end with this distraction, it's going to be a circus out there. | ||
| They're going to throw everything against the wall, fake polls. | ||
| There was a poll that went out this morning that they're trying to say that Biden's going to beat Trump. | ||
| These are PSYOPs. | ||
| Somebody called them a PSYOP. | ||
| I said that's a perfect name for it. | ||
| It's an operation to try to change the narrative and make people think that we're not in the driver's seat. | ||
| We the people are in the driver's seat right now. | ||
| We the people are winning. | ||
| This is not a 50-50, 51-49. | ||
| The massive numbers of people for America First, for President Trump, for candidates like myself, we are more in the 60%, 70%. | ||
| Everywhere I go, I go to Democrat neighborhoods. | ||
| They're for President Trump. | ||
| They're for me. | ||
| They're for law and order. | ||
| They're for safety, security, and affordability. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, you should be for Carrie Lake. | ||
| We must have a Republican Senate. | ||
| We must be able to execute and win as America First. | ||
| I don't want to lose as America First. | ||
| I want to win as America First. | ||
| So if you're in Arizona, support Carrie Lake. | ||
| Vote for her for Senate. | ||
| 2 million people. | ||
| Can't be wrong. | ||
| Go follow her on X. And Carrie, where can people find your campaign website? | ||
| Just CarrieLake.com. | ||
| K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E.com. | ||
| Benny, I lay out where I stand on everything. | ||
| I want you to know the media has given me 100% negative coverage. | ||
| The mainstream media has. | ||
| And it's because they're afraid of me. | ||
| They know that this fed-up mom from Arizona... | ||
| Is working for we the people. | ||
| They've tried to bribe me. | ||
| They've tried to blackmail me. | ||
| They don't like people that go to Washington, D.C. that they can't control with bribery and blackmail. | ||
| And they can't control me. | ||
| The people of Arizona will own my vote. | ||
| Not the lobbyists in D.C. I lay out my policy. | ||
| It's not extreme. | ||
| It's not far right, as they like to say. | ||
| It's common sense. | ||
| And they have to... | ||
| Put those names and descriptors on it to try to scare people. | ||
| I want a secure border. | ||
| I want a border wall. | ||
| The people of Arizona want that. | ||
| We're going to repatriate all of the people who come in during the Biden invasion. | ||
| We will repatriate them back to their homeland in order to save our homeland. | ||
| I want to make sure housing is affordable again for young people so that they can get out and start. | ||
| If they work hard, they can have access to the American dream. | ||
| I want a world-class education for our children that we have control of, that we get to choose. | ||
| And that means our tax dollars follow our children, I want energy independence so that whenever we go to fill up our gas tank, it's affordable. | ||
| We can hit the road and not worry about them not being able to afford groceries that night for dinner. | ||
| And we can cool our homes or heat our homes and not go into the poorhouse doing that. | ||
| Real basic stuff. | ||
| It's all there at CarrieLake.com. | ||
| And make a donation if you can afford it. | ||
| I only ask that if you can afford it. | ||
| I know we're living in the Biden economy and it's a struggle for a lot of people. | ||
| This is an important race. | ||
| This is incredibly important even if you're outside of Arizona. | ||
| Like I said, we are going to be the backup for America First policies to get through. | ||
| If we don't have the Senate. | ||
| This could be very bad. | ||
| Ruben Gallego said he will get rid of the filibuster. | ||
| He will vote immediately to push abortion up until nine months. | ||
| He said this, by the way, many times in interviews. | ||
| He'll get rid of the filibuster to stack the Supreme Court. | ||
| He'll get rid of the filibuster to make Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. states, which would give us four more forever liberal senators, and our country will be gone. | ||
| We must defeat Ruben Gallego, a man who marches and defund the police rallies and is the most radical Democrat to run in this cycle and probably in any cycle in our lifetime. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, the great Carrie Lake. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Support her. | ||
| Here's her campaign website. | ||
| The mama bear from the hot winds of the Arizona deserts coming through. | ||
| America first. | ||
| Godspeed, Carrie. | ||
| God bless you, Benny. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| you you All right, ladies and gentlemen, rocking and rolling today. | ||
| We await any news from the jury on a verdict. | ||
| We have laid out, as best we can, the remarkable amount of unconstitutional criminality that is occurring in the court. | ||
| It is something that you shouldn't even call a court, I think, anymore. | ||
| You can call it like a clown car, tire fire, dumpster fire. | ||
| Doing our best to come up with some type of pejorative that really elucidates what's going on in Manhattan. | ||
| And if there's one person that could probably come up with a better descriptor for what's going on in New York's court right now with Donald Trump in the icebox, well, it would be the Iceman himself, Mike Davis, who joins the program now. | ||
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Mike Davis, who joins the program now. | |
| Mike, hello, and how are you? | ||
| You're not the Iceman. | ||
| You're the flamethrower. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That was very racist of me. | ||
| So, you have a very, very good morning for your project. | ||
| You got shouted out by the president this morning. | ||
| We have that short... | ||
| Mike Davis, the U.S. would sanction a country for doing this. | ||
| I think that's good. | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| I think that's very good. | ||
| It was very good, Mike. | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| President Trump knows that he is getting railroaded in New York by this corrupt Manhattan judge, Juan Marchand, whose adult daughter, Lauren Marchand, is raising millions off of this case, requiring his recusal. | ||
| President Trump cannot mention Lauren Marchand's name, or Judge Juan Marchand has threatened to throw him in prison. | ||
| Trump's campaign can't mention her name. | ||
| Trump's campaign can't even post. | ||
| A news story from even the New York Times mentioning Lauren Michonne's name or President Trump goes to prison. | ||
| President Trump also can't mention Matthew Colangelo's name. | ||
| Matthew Colangelo is this former senior Obama and Biden political appointee, political hack, DNC political hack, who got deployed from the number three office in the Biden Justice Department to Soros-funded Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's office to resurrect. | ||
| This zombie case against Trump from seven years ago for the non-crime of calling a legal expense a legal expense. | ||
| They did not even explain to the jury, this Judge Mershon, Colangelo, and Brack have not explained to the jury, let alone the defendant, what the legal allegations are. | ||
| How the hell can a criminal defendant defend himself if he doesn't even know what the legal allegations are during his trial? | ||
| And then this judge, this corrupt... | ||
| This judge who illegally donated to Biden, which got him reprimanded by the New York court system several months ago, we just learned, and whose daughter is raising millions, requiring his recusal. | ||
| This judge instructed the jury they don't even have to unanimously agree what the crime is. | ||
| They can just make up whatever crime they want. | ||
| I mean, this is insane. | ||
| This is what happens in third world Marxist hellholes like North Korea and Zimbabwe and now in Manhattan. | ||
| So that, I want to jump into that question alone, because it seems to defy Louisiana versus Ramos in the Supreme Court. | ||
| We have the ruling here. | ||
| We don't pretend to be, well... | ||
| I went to Kirkwood Community College in Iowa and the University of Iowa. | ||
| I don't pretend to be some type of scholar for the Supreme Court. | ||
| Yet, even I have a functional brainstem and a pulse and can read this ruling where the Supreme Court says very clearly and concisely, you must have unanimity in juries to convict. | ||
| Otherwise, it's a hung jury and the accused walks free that second. | ||
| Maybe I'm old-fashioned, Mike, for just ruling. | ||
| You're somebody who has a great history with the Supreme Court. | ||
| Can you talk me through how this isn't unconstitutional? | ||
| Well, Ben, as you know, I also went to the University of Iowa and I clerked for Justice Gorsuch on the Supreme Court of the United States. | ||
| And that's the same Justice Gorsuch who wrote Ramos v. | ||
| Louisiana in 2020. | ||
| And that case is very clear. | ||
| The case says that... | ||
| In order to convict a criminal defendant, you have to have a unanimous jury on all the essential elements. | ||
| And that applies not only to federal cases, it applies to state cases. | ||
| Because before, you had states like Louisiana that did not require unanimous jury verdicts in order to convict a criminal defendant. | ||
| And my boss, my former boss, Justice Gorsuch... | ||
| It wasn't your typical liberal and conservative lineup. | ||
| The Chief Justice, Justice Alito, and Justice Kagan dissented on that case. | ||
| You had Gorsuch teaming up with Kavanaugh and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and so does Sunday Mayor, and I think Justice Kennedy was on that as well. | ||
| So it wasn't your typical lineup, but it shows that Justice Gorsuch has understood for the decades that I've known him. | ||
| I would just warn these people, remember... | ||
| That President Trump is very likely going to win election on November 5th, 2024. | ||
| And his Justice Department is going to be back. | ||
| The Trump 47 Justice Department is going to be up and running on January 20th, 2025. | ||
| Do these Biden Democrats inside and outside of government, like Andrew Weissman, for example, do they really want a politicized? | ||
| And weaponized justice system? | ||
| Because guess what? | ||
| I can think of a lot of different ways that the Trump 47 Justice Department can hold President Biden and these Democrat prosecutors and judges and witnesses and operatives accountable in D.C., in New York, in Atlanta, what they're doing down in the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| So let's keep playing this game. | ||
| I think it's going to be great. | ||
| This lawfare is going to put President Trump Back in the White House, and I can't wait for his Justice Department to roll up its sleeves. | ||
| Yeah, so, I mean, again, that's amazing. | ||
| I didn't actually know that you... | ||
| We've been talking about Louisiana v. | ||
| Ramos all morning, so I had no idea that you were there when that was decided. | ||
| Your old boss. | ||
| That was after I clerked, but my old boss, former boss, Neil Gorsuch, wrote the opinion after I clerked. | ||
| And can you explain to me then how it's... | ||
| How it's legal for the judge to say that none of you have to decide on unanimity of the guilty? | ||
| You can't explain that. | ||
| This is going to be very good evidence. | ||
| Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio just sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department on Judge Mershon and Alvin Bragg and Matthew Colangelo and these Biden Democrat goons in New York who are violating... | ||
| With President Trump's constitutional rights, with their illegal unconstitutional gag orders, with their violation of his equal protection, with the violation of his due process rights. | ||
| And you can just add this to the evidence, what they're doing with this jury instruction. | ||
| Judge Juan Mershon is participating in a criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. | ||
| 241 and 242. | ||
| Very serious federal civil rights. | ||
| And Judge Juan Bershon is participating in this criminal conspiracy against President Trump. | ||
| There will be accountability come January 20th, 2025. | ||
| There is going to be... | ||
| I'm going to advocate very strongly from the outside as Trump's vice role, because I can't get confirmed as AG, that the acting attorney general opened a criminal probe on this blatant... | ||
| Criminal conspiracy against President Trump. | ||
| His top aides like Peter Navarro, who's in prison right now. | ||
| Steve Bannon, who's heading to prison. | ||
| His attorneys like John Eastman and Jeff Clark, his supporters on January 6th. | ||
| This is an obvious criminal conspiracy driven by Joe Biden himself. | ||
| Through his deputy White House counsel, Jonathan Hsu, who worked with Gary Stern, the General Counsel of the National Archives, and Jay Bratt at the Justice Department to orchestrate the Mar-a-Lago raid, which led to Jack Smith's two indictments against Trump for January 6th and the Mar-a-Lago for presidential records under the Presidential Records Act that Trump is allowed to have with Nathan Wade, | ||
| Fannie Willis' Big, dumb, unqualified boyfriend billing his time to Fulton County taxpayers for his two meetings with the Biden White House, including the Biden White House Counsel, 16 hours, $250 an hour to collude with the Biden White House before Big Fannie brought her big, dumb indictment. | ||
| Down in Georgia, you have Matthew Colangelo deploying from the Biden Justice Department to Bragg's office to bring this bogus case in New York. | ||
| This is a criminal. | ||
| Conspiracy against President Trump and so many others. | ||
| There will be severe legal, political, and financial consequences to that. | ||
| And to the three people who remain at Media Matters, mark my word on this. | ||
| They're crying into their soy lattes right now, breaking off their fake fingernails trying to write this up as quickly as possible. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Mike Davis promises accountability, promises to do to us. | ||
| A scintilla of what we're doing to them, which is the more you look into the Hillary Clinton Russian dossier, the more you realize like, wait a second, why the hell isn't this lady rotting in prison? | ||
| Because this is everything they're trying to charge Trump with. | ||
| Yeah, that's the whole reason for this lawfare and election interference, Ben, is because they know that Trump declassified those damning crossfire hurricane Russian collusion records the day before he left office. | ||
| The CIA, the FBI ran to Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, and said, you're going to violate the Criminal Privacy Act. | ||
| You're going to put sources and methods in danger. | ||
| Mark Meadows said, okay, do your Privacy Act review. | ||
| Get out these crossfire hurricane records. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| They didn't get them out. | ||
| Instead, Biden sent a raid against Trump to go get back those crossfire hurricane records. | ||
| This is all going to come out. | ||
| There's going to be accountability. | ||
| This is the biggest scandal. | ||
| And Joe Biden, you know, you better figure out what prison you want to go to, buddy, because it's coming. | ||
| Is there like a visiting angel prison? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is there kind of like a hospice, but also a prison? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But it does seem like that's what Joe might need. | ||
| If he's even able to understand what's going on, which we don't think he is. | ||
| We know that this is all run by his DOJ, Mike. | ||
| Yet, what many handicappers are saying is that Juan Mershon may well, if they are able to trap Trump with all these rules and confuse the jury into a guilty verdict here, that he could put Trump on house arrest in New York. | ||
| And that he could continue to gag Trump and say, I'm taking the high road by not putting you in jail. | ||
| What do you think would happen if the unthinkable happens here and they come back with a guilty verdict? | ||
| They effectively just prevent Trump from campaigning. | ||
| I dare Judge Juan Mershon to do that, because guess what? | ||
| Right now, President Trump... | ||
| Is winning by two points. | ||
| If this bogus, corrupt, partisan rigged trial results in a criminal conviction in New York, Trump's going to win by like four points. | ||
| If this corrupt Judge Mershon, whose daughter is raising millions of dollars off of this criminal trial over which her father's presiding, requiring his recusal under New York statute, and that's not just me, a former... | ||
| Federal Clinton judge went on Caitlin Collins' show on CNN on April 5th and said he had to recuse. | ||
| If he tries to put Trump under house arrest or prevent him from campaigning for president, Trump's going to win by like six points. | ||
| It's going to be an utter blowout election. | ||
| They're going to turn Trump into Nelson Mandela. | ||
| And remember, Judge Mershon, preserve your documents. | ||
| You are participating in a federal criminal conspiracy against... | ||
| President Trump's constitutional rights with your illegal unconstitutional gag order by ignoring Ramos versus Louisiana on the fact that this jury has to be unanimous on all essential elements. | ||
| You are part of a criminal conspiracy, Juan Mershon, and there must be accountability. | ||
| And J.D. Vance's criminal referral lays out this very, very well. | ||
| So really quickly here, Mike, since you're obviously... | ||
| Much more, have much greater and deeper expertise than us on these issues. | ||
| Do you have a handicap here? | ||
| Do you believe that they'll come back with a hung jury? | ||
| I actually think this process is so part of Partisan, corrupt and rigged that they're going to come back and find Trump guilty. | ||
| Maybe not of all these charges, but guess what? | ||
| Even if it's a hung jury, guess what happens? | ||
| They immediately retry Trump. | ||
| They keep Trump in this dingy courtroom, unconstitutionally gagged, instead of on the campaign trail for the next three months. | ||
| I almost wish they would just find him guilty so Trump can get this damn thing eventually reversed on appeal. | ||
| Maybe he should just file a habeas petition directly. | ||
| If the New York court system ignores him, file a habeas petition with the Supreme Court of the United States if they try to confine him or if they try to restrict his ability to campaign for the White House. | ||
| But I will say this, the American people are not going to accept this illegitimate. | ||
| You're already seeing it in the polling. | ||
| You're seeing that during this trial, President Trump's polling has gone up, particularly among black men. | ||
| Right now, Black Americans make up 13% of the population. | ||
| They vote 95% Democrat. | ||
| People always say Republicans are never going to win the Black vote. | ||
| We don't need to. | ||
| If you change that number from 95% to 85%, that puts Democrats in dangerous territory. | ||
| If that number goes down to 80%, Democrats can't win and they know it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You take a population that has been raised assuming that the judicial system is rigged against them and you prove it by locking up the guy whose best friends are a bunch of rappers and giving them a mugshot. | ||
| It's such a great plan, Mike. | ||
| It's such a smart, it's such a great idea. | ||
| Yeah, because these Biden Democrats actually believe their own BS and they actually are this Trump deranged and they can't see clearly and their judgment is so clouded and they're so smug and arrogant and out of touch with real Americans in real America. | ||
| Just as a final closing note here, because I know we're out of time, a lot of people are pretty angry at this judge right now. | ||
| And many are saying, well, he's protected by the system. | ||
| Nothing will ever happen to him. | ||
| If there were a federal investigation under the statutes that you enumerated here, how do you disrobe a judge? | ||
| What could happen to this judge? | ||
| You put this judge in prison where he belongs. | ||
| He has clearly violated President Trump's civil rights. | ||
| He's corrupted. | ||
| He should have recused from this case his daughter's... | ||
| Making money. | ||
| She's raising millions. | ||
| She gets a percentage of that. | ||
| He knows that. | ||
| When Trump raised this recusal issue, he retaliated against President Trump by expanding this unconstitutional gag order where he's threatened to throw Trump in jail if he mentions Lauren Marchand's name or his campaign mentions Lauren Marchand's name. | ||
| That is a federal civil rights violation in itself, and there are so many others. | ||
| Judge Juan Marchand deserves to go to prison after January 20th, 2025. | ||
| What's wild, Mike, is I'd normally say, we've known each other for a long time, I'd normally say the media wouldn't be on your side here, but I've seen a shocking number of people refuse to defend this process in the corporate press. | ||
| From places like MSNBC and CNN, you brought up a number of CNN interviews. | ||
| It actually almost feels like you would have, in a second Trump term, you'd have tacit support for something like this. | ||
| I would say this, Ben, this is what's good about the Democrats. | ||
| They play for keeps when Colangelo and Bragg And Judge Juan Mershon do not deliver and Lauren Mershon do not deliver. | ||
| The Democrats will throw them to the wolves like they did with John Edwards, like they've done with so many people who do not deliver for Democrats. | ||
| They play for keeps. | ||
| They eat their own. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, keep eating! | ||
| Eating up your consumption of Mike Davis' social media, which is right here up on screen. | ||
| 200,000 Americans. | ||
| Can't be wrong. | ||
| Go ahead and follow Mike on X. The Article 3 Project, Mike. | ||
| Shout yourself out. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| We don't have a man crush on Judge 1 where Sean, like Andrew Weissman does. | ||
| We want to put his ass in prison. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| You can have your man crushes in jail, okay? | ||
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That's right. | |
| Andrew and Juan Mershon can be cellmates and have man crushes on each other. | ||
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Thank you, Mike. | |
| That will get Media Matters' attention for us. | ||
| See you, Mike. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Thanks, Ben. | ||
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All right. | |
| Later, Mike. | ||
| We have that clip loading up. | ||
| We have the clip loading up. | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| What he's referring to, what Mike Davis is referring to there, and we're tight on time, so couldn't play it for Mike, but is this clip, Andrew Weissman saying he has a man crush on the judge in the Trump trial. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| And here it is. | ||
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As you've noted, with respect to Judge Marchand, I mean, I am like now, you know, I have like a man crush on him. | |
| He is such a great judge that it's hard to see that the jurors wouldn't have the same impression. | ||
| And he's just, you just keep on thinking, if you looked in a dictionary for like judicial temperament, that's what you get. | ||
| This is the guy who was on the Mueller investigation, who many argue ran the Mueller investigation because when Robert Mueller got a chance to talk, he sounded just like Joe Biden. | ||
| The guy clearly had dementia. | ||
| So he ran this guy that ran Russiagate. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, it's all happening all over again. | ||
| They're doing everything they can to prevent Donald Trump from being president. | ||
| They did this in 2016. | ||
| Now, today, you're starting to see that Access Hollywood tape come back up. | ||
| They're going to pull every single stop. | ||
| I just, there's something that is happening. | ||
| There's a force that's occurring right now that wasn't, that we didn't have in 2016, which is the black hole of Joe Biden and the optimism that Donald Trump brings to the kind of, I think, polls show, by and large, like, polls show unanimously, demonstrably, that people just don't care about this stuff. | ||
| That people are on the side of the Trumps, the Trump family, and that they can see themselves in these shoes. | ||
| We're all parts of this rigged system. | ||
| And anybody who's ever had to deal with the IRS knows that. | ||
| You're all part of a rigged system. | ||
| People are sick of it. | ||
| Don Jr. making that exact point last night, talking about his father and talking about what's happening, what's going to happen next. | ||
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Well, to be a lie, Michael Cohen literally got caught admitting to lying during this trial. | |
| You can lie about everything, Eric, but on this one you should believe him. | ||
| I mean, it's asinine, but people understand that it's a show trial. | ||
| It's a show trial to try to help the Democrats. | ||
| It's the epitome of election interference. | ||
| They're trying to do whatever they can. | ||
| To help Joe Biden, to hamstring Trump, anything. | ||
| When elections are won, you know, in the margins, these little tiny basis points, they're trying to allow it that the Democrats can have any sort of upper hand. | ||
| That's clear in the venue, not just here, but in all of the other cases. | ||
| They choose the venue. | ||
| They choose the prosecutors. | ||
| It just never ends. | ||
| It's not a coincidence that this very judge also gets the Steve Bannon case, also got the other cases for conservatives. | ||
| It's like this is the guy whose daughter is fundraising and making millions off of it. | ||
| Who's going to take and look at all of these things? | ||
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It's happening right here in New York. | |
| Yeah, so there is going to be a massive, massive backlash against all of this. | ||
| You've seen it already. | ||
| You saw it last week with Donald Trump's Harlem rally. | ||
| But what will happen in the judicial system, somebody who's argued before the Supreme Court, somebody who's been quite a champion on legal issues, Ted Cruz sounding off last night saying Donald Trump's going to obviously win this thing, will obviously win this thing on appeal, but there needs to be major consequences, sort of echoing what Mike just said. | ||
| We now know to a virtual certainty. | ||
| That no conviction will be upheld on appeal. | ||
| That the judge today committed, I think, clear reversible error. | ||
| These jury instructions were nonsense. | ||
| Now here's the bad news. | ||
| The bad news is this has been a kangaroo court from the beginning. | ||
| This is a wildly partisan prosecutor who hates Donald Trump, who came with a political objective of going after Donald Trump. | ||
| And we now know from these jury instructions that this judge is every bit the partisan that the prosecutor is. | ||
| And he knows this is reversible error. | ||
| As you noted, Ramos v. | ||
| Louisiana clearly held in 2020 that every element of the crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, must be unanimous by the jury, and yet this judge says it doesn't matter, not in New York. | ||
| The Constitution does not apply in New York, which means if we get a conviction, it will be reversed on appeal. | ||
| But the judge doesn't care. | ||
| The prosecutor doesn't care. | ||
| Nobody cares because this is not about law. | ||
| This is not about criminal justice. | ||
| This is about politics. | ||
| This is all about the press conference, the national address that Joe Biden has scheduled to give from the White House where he gloats, we've now convicted Donald Trump. | ||
| This is all about November. | ||
| We are watching election interference. | ||
| This is the most blatant case of election interference that we've ever seen in our country's history. | ||
| Ted Cruz is somebody who is a friend of the show and who really understands these things. | ||
| And my question to him would be, what are we going to do about it? | ||
| When Republicans take the Senate, what's going to happen? | ||
| Where are Republican leaders? | ||
| Do they even exist? | ||
| Are Republicans even alive right now? | ||
| Where's Mitch McConnell? | ||
| Where's Mike Johnson? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Every one of them goes scurrying to a microphone every single time that there is a new billion dollars to give to Ukraine. | ||
| Or $100 billion. | ||
| But nobody seems to, no Republican has seemed to have called a press conference outside of the court. | ||
| Republican leaders are not standing united right now. | ||
| Like, if a tree falls in the woods, make any sound, does the Republican Party even exist? | ||
| So you can just lock up your political enemies now on non-crimes? | ||
| I am not a doomer. | ||
| And we do not blackpill on this program. | ||
| We do our very best to actually... | ||
| Try and have a little fun with the news cycle and try and find the silver linings. | ||
| And so we bring you a couple of pieces of good news here. | ||
| Good news number one. | ||
| Jonathan Turley is our favorite and most trusted legal scholar and advisor on these things. | ||
| He says this is really, really good news for Donald Trump. | ||
| That the jury is taking so much time here and are asking so many questions. | ||
| Jonathan Turley from inside of the courthouse. | ||
| We haven't heard from him because he's been in the courthouse during these deliberations. | ||
| And as an update, there are deliberations currently, right now, ongoing. | ||
| We'll break. | ||
| As soon as there is news about what's happening next in the jury, we'll break. | ||
| But right now, the jury's still deliberating. | ||
| So here we're going on 48 hours now of total deliberation. | ||
| Jonathan Turley saying that's a really good sign for Donald Trump. | ||
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I'm surprised that some other networks have said, look, this is really great news that they sent this out. | |
| I got to tell you, as a criminal defense attorney, I would not view this as... | ||
| Clearly good news for the prosecution. | ||
| The only reason why a jury would send out a request to hear the instructions again is if there's a disagreement about what the instructions are. | ||
| That indicates that there may be a conflict with jurors in that room about what their standard is, how they're supposed to look at the evidence. | ||
| There's various reasons why these particular parts of the testimony would be demanded by the jury. | ||
| This is a rather intriguing one. | ||
| The judge told the jury that if Cohen lied to any material fact, the jury could disregard all of his testimony. | ||
| Now, he noted that that means that you have to look for corroboration of Cohen, because he is someone who obviously is not just a serial perjurer, but he's an accomplice. | ||
| So they happen to have requested the Trump meeting, which the government cited as corroboration for... | ||
| So it may have been that they started logically and say, first of all, can we consider anything that Michael Cohen has said? | ||
| So how can you say that this is a good thing? | ||
| It's not a good thing for the prosecution. | ||
| It is a good thing for Trump. | ||
| Mike Davis is saying, just get it over with. | ||
| Just get it over with. | ||
| Just find the guy guilty, and then we'll crush you after we win. | ||
| Donald Trump is taking a winning attitude. | ||
| By releasing political ads in the middle of this trial. | ||
| So once again, Donald Trump is legally required to stay at the courthouse while the jury's in deliberation. | ||
| So he's sitting there in the icebacks, as they call it, with his milk duds and his Lay's potato chips, what was in the video yesterday from Don Jr., approving ads be released. | ||
| Here is fresh off the presses, released just minutes ago, and are excellent. | ||
| Executive producers were able to get it clipped and cleared. | ||
| The brand new Trump ad on this trial. | ||
| Pretty powerful. | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
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We're reaching the top. | |
| We're reaching the top. | ||
| We know what it takes to be reaching the top. | ||
| Lower the lights down. | ||
| Hand over my crown. | ||
| Hand over my heart. | ||
| I do this for my town. | ||
| I do this for my crowd. | ||
| So turn me up real loud. | ||
| My town. | ||
| None of you can't fucking tell me to stop. | ||
| Turning the track up. | ||
| I'll never go back down. | ||
| Hand over my heart. | ||
| I thought it was for my town. | ||
| I thought it was for my crowd. | ||
| So turn me up real loud. | ||
| My time. | ||
| My time. | ||
| Nothing you can't, nothing you can't tell me to stop Nothing you can't tell me to stop Oh, that ad is pure fire. | ||
| Donald Trump walking in like a fighting champion, somebody who has been in the arena and who has an incredible background playing in front of stadiums, massive crowds and audiences, is the great Jack Brewer, who joins us now. | ||
| you you you Jack, that was the energy, man. | ||
| Did you watch that ad? | ||
| Did you watch that? | ||
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We can put it back up. | |
| I want to put my helmet on and I'm 45 years old, brother. | ||
| Man, I'm ready to play a game, Benny. | ||
| I got to be honest with you, man. | ||
| You said it straight fire, man. | ||
| That's like an intro. | ||
| You played in the NFL for a decade? | ||
| Decades? | ||
| That's like an intro that you'd get for a sports team. | ||
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No doubt. | |
| It's something that you dreamed to be able to walk out. | ||
| I mean, look at him. | ||
| It's like he's walking out of a tunnel. | ||
| But, you know, at the end of the day, not just is he taking, you know, the physical abuse and pressure, but just like spiritually, it's got a way on him, man. | ||
| I mean, and every time you see him, I mean, just look in his eyes. | ||
| He's such a fighter, man. | ||
| To go in and out of that courtroom each and every day and stand up for the American people, knowing you have everything to lose. | ||
| And he's willing to put it all on the line for us, man. | ||
| And it's just so cool. | ||
| It makes you proud. | ||
| For me, after going through years and years of just... | ||
| Hate and people not talking to you, family not talking to you, friends not talking to you anymore behind Donald Trump. | ||
| I mean, for me, this is vindicating, man. | ||
| It's like I do it all over again. | ||
| A hundred times I stand for him because you see what kind of man he is. | ||
| You see what he's made of. | ||
| And he really is a man of the people, man. | ||
| So, Jack, you know this, obviously, based on your dealings with President Trump. | ||
| Could you please, for some of the audience that may not be familiar, can you please illuminate for us how you and Donald Trump have worked together? | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| I got a chance to meet President Trump, man, probably seven, eight years ago. | ||
| I met him at his New Jersey golf course. | ||
| I was with a host of different people, but he just made me feel so good the first time I met him. | ||
| And, you know, he started to ask me about the work I was doing in the community. | ||
| I told him about the situations in Baltimore with, you know, I'm reading the math proficiency levels and, you know, the place just looked like a third world country when you walk through and, you know, all these young minority kids living in these. | ||
| And you could just tell he cared, man. | ||
| And he kept asking me questions. | ||
| And then shortly after that, he goes out and starts making comments about Baltimore and these other cities. | ||
| And, you know, all of a sudden, you know, we passed. | ||
| Opportunity zones and all of these things that were put in place. | ||
| It was really because he cared. | ||
| He wanted to go into the hardest hit places in America. | ||
| And he believes that everybody can live the American dream. | ||
| And the American dream to him, I mean, he is America. | ||
| I mean, look at what he's built. | ||
| Look at what he stands for. | ||
| Look how much respect he gets from other Americans that put their lives on the line every day. | ||
| And so when you start to see what really... | ||
| Motivates and moves this, man. | ||
| It's hard not to back him, man, if you're really a fan of America. | ||
| Yeah, you've talked about third-world countries in Baltimore. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I have a sister who actually lives in Baltimore, and it looks like after a war zone. | ||
| It looks like a war zone, actually. | ||
| It looks like the front lines of World War II, Ukraine, Dresden, whatever. | ||
| It's like the whole place is an empty shell. | ||
| But now in New York, there's this third-world trial that's happening against Trump. | ||
| Nobody's been able... | ||
| It's our job to, like, explain what the crimes are, right? | ||
| And if they caught Trump in a case, okay, we're going to talk about it. | ||
| There's no case here. | ||
| There's no crimes here. | ||
| And everything seems wildly rigged against him the way that you would do it in the Soviet Union or Stalinist or a third world, right? | ||
| So, you know, your thoughts on a rigged judicial system that is once again trying to put an innocent man in jail. | ||
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Unfortunately, I've seen this before, right? | |
| I've seen it in Malawi. | ||
| I've seen it in Haiti. | ||
| I mean, these are countries that are some of the poorest places on earth. | ||
| You know, I watched a former president in Malawi who was like my mom, be persecuted, and they try to throw her in jail for doing absolutely nothing. | ||
| And this is exactly what I'm watching happen here in the United States of America. | ||
| And to see, you know, President Trump walk into the court and, you know, I follow this case and, you know, what started, you know, seven years ago as something that would be classified as a misdemeanor. | ||
| And then they moved everything around and they tried to rename it to make it into a felony offense. | ||
| And then once they got into the felony, they get in the court and they can't apply the things that would actually go. | ||
| Into a felony conviction. | ||
| And so they try to start pulling these other misdemeanor facts in, and they're kind of jumbled up this entire process, just completely abandoning the criminal justice system and actually what the law says. | ||
| I mean, it is so sad, but what it's doing right now is putting on display for the American people. | ||
| What happens when you have these liberal judges? | ||
| And you have these liberal elected officials that are in power. | ||
| This happens to men and women across America all the time. | ||
| President Trump is just showing us what they can do to you. | ||
| I go into prisons and jails all the time with guys that are locked up. | ||
| I got guys that are locked up for life and they haven't killed anybody. | ||
| I got guys that got double and triple life sentences for selling drugs. | ||
| And so now you're watching the president of the United States that they hate so much. | ||
| And Benny, I've said it before. | ||
| That's why I called him the first black president in the Oval Office. | ||
| I called him the first black president because they persecuted him worse than they've done anyone in the United States of America. | ||
| I mean, think about the amount of money and time and energy and just years on this man's life. | ||
| That they cost him over all this persecution. | ||
| We don't even hear about Russia, Russia, Russia. | ||
| We don't even hear... | ||
| All those were persecutions at the end of the day. | ||
| All of those were... | ||
| They were trying to have criminal charges on this man to lock him up. | ||
| They've done whatever they can to do that. | ||
| And I think for the American people to see our justice system be capable of this, it truly is a resemblance of a banana republic. | ||
| Yeah, it sucks because... | ||
| Somebody from my background is going to be like, no, actually, our judicial system is great. | ||
| And, you know, F the police? | ||
| No, not that, right? | ||
| Like, I can't be down with that. | ||
| And then you look at this and you're like, wait a second. | ||
| There's an entire population in this country who has been totally railroaded. | ||
| By rigged justice systems. | ||
| Justice systems that were run by people like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. | ||
| Kamala Harris is locking up hundreds of thousands. | ||
| Joe Biden's doing the 94th crime bill, locking up hundreds of thousands of black men for doing a scintilla of what his son did on camera. | ||
| I mean, he filmed it all, right? | ||
| It's one thing if he did it, but he put it all on tape, which I don't understand for the life of me. | ||
| And then Kamala Harris, who used black men as forced labor and held them beyond their sentences in California. | ||
| She withheld evidence to get people off murderer's row, as you were just talking about. | ||
| Conleyers did all those things. | ||
| She did. | ||
| She did all those things. | ||
| She ruined hundreds, maybe not hundreds of thousands, but tens of thousands of people's lives for marijuana charges. | ||
| And they're the ones wondering why they're losing black support. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
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And you think about it, Benny. | |
| So you have the Democratic Party. | ||
| Kamala Harris and all these powers. | ||
| Think about the millions of dollars that have been put behind this machine, right? | ||
| And you have them going in and literally causing the largest epidemic in our country right now, which is fatherlessness. | ||
| We got almost 24 million fatherless kids in the United States of America. | ||
| And so when you look at that and you look about how many of those... | ||
| We're locked up in prisons and jails because of policies like Kamala Harris's drug policies when she was the attorney general in the state of Florida. | ||
| You look at Joe Biden. | ||
| You look up California, excuse me. | ||
| You look up Joe Biden and you see that he wrote, literally was the author of the 94 crime bill. | ||
| You're talking about a crime bill that led to hundreds of thousands. | ||
| Of arrest of black men across the United States of America. | ||
| And then now, what are you going to say? | ||
| I'm sorry about it. | ||
| 30 years later, when these guys are now grandfathers that have not been in their kids' lives, have not been in their grandkids' lives, and many have led to their own sons going to prison as well. | ||
| And so, you know, you talk about the ripple effect. | ||
| I mean, it's terrible. | ||
| And now that you're seeing what they're doing to conservatives across the board, whether you're getting shadow banned, whether you're getting silenced, whether you're getting canceled, it's terrible. | ||
| Now, today in America, unfortunately to say, conservative is the new black. | ||
| They put black people through shackles and chains and destroyed your lives, wouldn't hire you for work. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And now... | ||
| Conservatives are treated the same way. | ||
| And so I think the American people, particularly Black Americans and brown Americans, are starting to see that, like, hold on, wait a minute. | ||
| They're treating this man the same way they treated my uncle, or the same way they treated one of my homeboys that I grew up with. | ||
| You see this time and time again, man, and it's not right. | ||
| And I think, you know, I was so proud to see President Trump go into the Bronx, and every time he steps out of his hotel in New York, people are in the streets cheering for him, and they're all shapes, sizes, and colors, and no one can deny that. | ||
| Yeah, well, I say, preach, man. | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| Fire. | ||
| Clip it right now. | ||
| That's the end. | ||
| Clip it right now. | ||
| Get it up on social media. | ||
| Beautiful thing you just said there, which is the rally in Harlem. | ||
| I think we have some footage. | ||
| I think we have some B-roll of what that looked like. | ||
| Donald Trump taking the stage. | ||
| And these people aren't going to stop voting for Trump if they put him in prison. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, I guess that's my question to you. | ||
| Like, if they go all the way and we don't know what the jury's going to do, God willing, they acquit Trump. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they just say, we're not going to put an innocent man in jail. | ||
| But if they do put him in jail, is that going to make people vote for him more or less? | ||
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No doubt. | |
| I just had a conversation with my wife. | ||
| I said, if they lock up Donald Trump, I might stop working and just do nothing but campaign. | ||
| I mean, we are fighting. | ||
| We are literally fighting for it. | ||
| I mean, look at that picture. | ||
| That is like you're looking at the United Nations mixed with, I mean, there's every race of people were out there rallying. | ||
| Cheering for President Trump. | ||
| And I think that folks are understanding now what our government's capable of. | ||
| And so now it's become a personal fight. | ||
| Most people, they vote according to their pocketbooks, what's better policy for their families, and maybe a social issue or two that's important to them. | ||
| Now people are fighting for their future of the country that they have given everything to. | ||
| Everything, too. | ||
| People have their entire networks here. | ||
| Their families have fought some for generations to get here. | ||
| And so now we realize what our government is capable of, and I think people are willing to make that fight. | ||
| I know minorities, particularly the ones that I've talked to. | ||
| I'm going to tell you, there was a time I didn't even want to go into certain neighborhoods because I didn't want to get shot at if they see I'm the black Republican supporting Trump. | ||
| Now, all of a sudden, everywhere I go, everybody's like, hey, how you doing? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| They want to talk to me about Trump. | ||
| They got questions. | ||
| Hey, hey, how's President Trump? | ||
| Tell me about this. | ||
| Tell me about that. | ||
| I'm like, yo, I was trying to tell you about this six, seven years ago. | ||
| You didn't want to hear it. | ||
| Now, all of a sudden, everybody wants to get on the bandwagon, which I like. | ||
| I have no arguments about that. | ||
| But people are definitely waking up, man. | ||
| And you see it across the board. | ||
| You see it in sports. | ||
| You see it in entertainment. | ||
| I mean, think about it. | ||
| Entertainers. | ||
| Entire careers would have been over in some areas if they supported Trump during the last election. | ||
| And now, all of a sudden, people are coming out left and right in support of the greatest president of our lifetime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, people are coming out left and right. | ||
| You can see it here. | ||
| This is the side-by-side of two events within seven days of each other. | ||
| One is Donald Trump in the Bronx. | ||
| And this is Joe Biden yesterday. | ||
| Blacks for Biden. | ||
| This is the Blacks for Biden event yesterday in Philadelphia, where it doesn't look like even a tenth of the gymnasium is filled. | ||
| We did some research here. | ||
| This was apparently at a college where the kids were forced to attend for credit, the Biden event. | ||
| And it's pretty tough. | ||
| I don't know if we have any of this. | ||
| Do we got any of the clips loaded? | ||
| I'd like to get you to maybe... | ||
| Maybe you could respond to this. | ||
| If you're appealing to Black voters, would this be the line that you'd use? | ||
| On Memorial Day, I proudly stood with a Black man. | ||
| I stood with a Black man. | ||
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So weird, man. | |
| I mean, for a Black person to see that. | ||
| What shocks me is that Blacks on the left still lie to themselves and force themselves to digest that. | ||
| Like, you don't have to eat it. | ||
| You can say no. | ||
| You don't have to take that in. | ||
| And so to see that, you just know how awkward those people in those stands are. | ||
| I mean, you've seen them now. | ||
| They have made it a legitimate priority now to start reaching out to black voters. | ||
| The vice president, right? | ||
| Sometimes she's black. | ||
| Sometimes she's not. | ||
| Whatever day it is, she'll tell you if she's black or not. | ||
| Well, she's been on a rampage. | ||
| To appeal to black votes. | ||
| They're using HBCUs. | ||
| They're using everything that they can because they see the shift and they are terrified. | ||
| They realize that if we get 25% of the black vote in the United States of America in November, this thing's a landslide. | ||
| And so they're going to continue to have these weird moments because there's nothing they can do to stop Joe Biden from being weird on camera. | ||
| There's nothing that they can do. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| God bless him. | ||
| I pray for him. | ||
| I hope I'm nothing but the best. | ||
| He's made so many comments that you hear. | ||
| Byron Donald did a great job the other day on CNN. | ||
| They're trying to attack him for supporting Donald Trump and saying, shouldn't President Trump have to answer for his history? | ||
| Look at what Joe Biden has done. | ||
| You're talking about a guy that Voted for segregation. | ||
| He voted for busting kids, not allowing black kids to go to school with white kids. | ||
| He voted for it. | ||
| I mean, the guy has, you know, being friends with a Klan member. | ||
| Listen, if a Klan member has changed his heart, given his life to Jesus and repented, I love him and embrace him. | ||
| But Joe Biden was... | ||
| Hanging out with straight racist people. | ||
| If that had been Donald Trump with that type of history, can you imagine the persecution? | ||
| They would have ads left and right about Donald Trump, but they can't do it. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because Jesse Jackson loved him, right? | ||
| Al Sharpton loved him, right? | ||
| You got pictures of him with Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks getting all kind of community awards. | ||
| The man helped build New York City. | ||
| He's done so much for the inner city and black community that they can't deny it. | ||
| They can't go pull up all of Donald Trump's history because it'll work against them. | ||
| And so now they have to create this facade and this false reality over and over again in order to strike the emotions of the Democratic voter. | ||
| They play on the emotions of black people. | ||
| They know they do it. | ||
| And once a black person sees the light, that's why they come out so strong against them. | ||
| And that's what's happening today. | ||
| You bring up a really profound point. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Right? | ||
| She decides to talk differently. | ||
| Have a listen. | ||
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Testifying! | |
| Can I get a witness? | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Oh, can I get a witness? | ||
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It's unbelievable, man. | |
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| And you know, listen, I'm a Southern boy. | ||
| I'm from Texas. | ||
| So my speech may not always be, you know, according to what the dictionary says it should be in the English language. | ||
| I have slang is what they call it, right? | ||
| When you sit at my kitchen table, I'm the same Jack all the time. | ||
| But you can tell she's just trying to appeal to people. | ||
| And folks see it. | ||
| Folks know it. | ||
| And that's what's so sad about it. | ||
| It's its manipulation. | ||
| I'm a Bible guy, man. | ||
| The Bible says manipulation is witchcraft. | ||
| That's deceit. | ||
| And so you can see the deceit. | ||
| Otherwise, if it wasn't deceitful, it would be natural. | ||
| You wouldn't have to turn it on and off. | ||
| You wouldn't even have to target black people. | ||
| Black voters, if you're Kamala Harris and you're really a Black woman standing up for Black issues that went to HBCUs and had all of this background. | ||
| If you had all of that, you wouldn't have to make an effort to do it. | ||
| It would be effortless. | ||
| And that's the issue I think that so many African Americans have with particularly this administration. | ||
| I mean, I think they try to find as many folks, as many tokens as they can put next to them to say they checked this box and they're standing up for Black people. | ||
| We see that their policies are literally destroying all Americans, but particularly Black Americans, starting with their immigration policies. | ||
| This is something that you didn't see in the Bronx with Donald Trump because Donald Trump never once used an affected accent. | ||
| He never once tried to talk down to people. | ||
| He just spoke. | ||
| In fact, he gave one of the more inspirational speeches I've ever heard him give. | ||
| He decided to start talking about leadership and give almost like a leadership training. | ||
| And it was a wonderful thing to see. | ||
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So you mean he didn't start using slang to try to appeal to black voters? | |
| Can I get a witness? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's up, homeboy? | ||
| Did you hear him say that? | ||
| Could you imagine if Trump walked out to the stage and was like, what's up, homies? | ||
| He did bring up those two rappers. | ||
| He did bring up the two rappers and said he wants to get a grill. | ||
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And those rappers were great, as a matter of fact. | |
| I mean, think about it. | ||
| You would not have seen that four years ago. | ||
| You would not have seen two rappers in New York willing to go up in black, stand up for President Trump. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The week before. | ||
| You wouldn't have seen Otis Anderson and Lawrence Tater, two of the greatest NFL players ever, stand up in a crowd of 100,000 people for President Trump. | ||
| Man, this thing is real. | ||
| People are realizing what they're fighting for, and they're realizing that we all got a dog in this fight. | ||
| And the dog in this fight for us is President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| So you brought up, obviously, the two NFL legends. | ||
| You played yourself in the NFL, the rappers, and so on. | ||
| But zooming out a little bit, And looking forward to the next five months, every poll indicates that Donald Trump's going to win by what could be a historic margin and would totally remake the electoral map. | ||
| Do you see obviously that coming to fruition? | ||
| I mean, you know, there's a lot of shenanigans that can happen between now and then. | ||
| Do you think the cake's been baked? | ||
| And, you know, what happens next? | ||
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I don't, you know, because I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am a realist. | |
| And I know that I'm still seeing court cases where they're still finding ballots and no photos of ballots, no history of ballots. | ||
| And so I don't know what they're capable of and how big this runs. | ||
| I do know that the Democratic Party right now is led by a lot of politicians who are career politicians that talk about dictators, but yet they're the ones in office for their entire lives. | ||
| They're the ones that have gotten themselves rich, literally rich and wealthy from being a politician. | ||
| None of them have personal businesses. | ||
| None of them have family businesses. | ||
| But yet they're wealthy. | ||
| And so that's really scary when you start thinking about how deep that corruption runs. | ||
| And that's really the reason why they fight so hard to stay in power is because they don't want to be exposed. | ||
| And so that really scares me. | ||
| I think that's what we have to keep front and center is we got to know who we are taking on right now and what powers are they coming from. | ||
| And so that's an issue. | ||
| And so I just hope that all Americans, particularly conservatives, I'm not even going to say conservatives, right? | ||
| Because I'll tell you, Benny, I'm not even a registered Republican. | ||
| I'm a registered independent. | ||
| We say America first around here. | ||
| We say America first around here. | ||
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I am MAGA, baby. | |
| I can tell you that right now. | ||
| America first, that's right. | ||
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100%. | |
| And so I think that... | ||
| Looks a lot different today than it ever has. | ||
| And I just hope that we can keep enough momentum that we can overcome any of these things we can't control. | ||
| The cheating, the deception, the pollsters and how they count votes. | ||
| I don't know enough about all that. | ||
| I'm not an expert on that. | ||
| But I do know that the wave of people and the momentum that President Trump has right now. | ||
| If this was a football game. | ||
| And we were playing, going into the fourth quarter, we'd be up by three touchdowns right now. | ||
| And so all we have to do is not turn the ball over and we will win this football game. | ||
| And so we can't put it in the hands of the refs. | ||
| We have to keep it, keep the ball protected. | ||
| I think if we do that, as the America First movement, I think nothing can stop us. | ||
| I think you're exactly right, Jack. | ||
| You're always so inspirational. | ||
| When you come on the program, you always give such good advice. | ||
| I would like to close with something I've never asked any guest ever, which is in this clip here, Donald Trump says he wants a diamond grill. | ||
| Would you advise that for the president? | ||
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No, actually, I would advise against that because no one... | |
| President Trump and how, you know, meticulously clean he is. | ||
| It's hard to clean those diamonds in your grill. | ||
| And so you may have some food from two or three meals before that you may miss sometimes. | ||
| And so I'll tell him, like I tell all the kids that I coach and my own kids, keep the goals and grills out your mouth. | ||
| All the extra, you know, keep the hair trimmed, cut short so you can wash it. | ||
| It's about cleanliness, man. | ||
| Hopefully a cleansing revival happening in this nation on a spiritual level, a political level. | ||
| It's a heightened spiritual energy out there, Jack. | ||
| It's inspiring. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You've got to be numb to not feel it. | ||
| You've got to have no pulse to not feel it. | ||
| There's a heightened spiritual energy out there. | ||
| And I think that's a really good thing. | ||
| There's a lot of people waking up. | ||
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Thank you, Jack. | |
| Benny, listen. | ||
| And I'll end with this. | ||
| And this is a serious note. | ||
| If you're a believer and you read the Bible, You will see directly democratic policies align with Sodom and Gomorrah. | ||
| And I think people are seeing that. | ||
| No one wants that destruction and evilness on them. | ||
| And that's what's happening right now. | ||
| If you look at the policies these people are pushing, they're straight out of Romans 12. And that is exactly what the Word of God teaches us against. | ||
| And so I think that's what a lot of people are seeing. | ||
| It's not about President Trump. | ||
| It really is about the policies. | ||
| It really is about the future of America. | ||
| President Trump will not be alive to see the impact that he's having today. | ||
| He knows that and realizes that and is willing to pay a sacrifice for that. | ||
| My question to the American people, are you willing to pay that same price and give that same sacrifice for the future of this nation and the spiritual well-being of generations to come? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm glad you brought up Sodom and Gomorrah because actually all the angel of God asked for was like, show me one good man. | ||
| We can be that one good man. | ||
| We can be the person who has our hearts set after God. | ||
| We can be that person. | ||
| You can be that person watching. | ||
| You can be that person. | ||
| That's all God required to save Sodom. | ||
| And in modern America, it's Sodom and Gomorrah. | ||
| You need to be a good person. | ||
| You need to show me one godly man or woman. | ||
| And we can be that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| We can save our country together. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's what God requires. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God bless you, Jack. | ||
| Everybody needs to go follow Jack. | ||
| He's followed Commissioner Jack Brewer. | ||
| Jack Brewer, B-S-I. | ||
| 80,000 Americans can't be wrong. | ||
| And Jack, we look forward to you serving in the next Trump administration. | ||
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So do I, man. | |
| So do I. Anything for this country, anything for, you know, the generations to come, man. | ||
| Benny, you keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| I pray for you, man, and ask God to protect you. | ||
| Protect this show, man. | ||
| Cast any hurt, harm, or danger from around you. | ||
| And let your voice just continue to just empower people, man. | ||
| And bring the energy that you bring each and every time I watch you, man. | ||
| So just know that your brother right here is praying for you here in Florida, man. | ||
| So just keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| That's the best sign-off a guy like me could ask for. | ||
| Preach! | ||
| God bless you, Jack. | ||
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God bless you, man. | |
| God bless you. | ||
| you you All right, baby. | ||
| Okay, rocking and rolling today. | ||
| We have our executive producers with our eyes on the trial. | ||
| We are watching every single second. | ||
| We've been live for three hours plus today, and we'll continue. | ||
| Coming up, we have Laura Trump, who will be joining us, along with a number of other members of Congress, some of our favorites, Mike Benz, Stephen Miller. | ||
| It's going to be on some of Trump's top advisors. | ||
| Some of Trump's family members will be joining the program. | ||
| And so we implore you that this ruling could come from the judge at any single time, from the jury and then the judge at any single time, the way it works in New York. | ||
| And not to give you the jitters here, but the jury's going to come back. | ||
| The jury's going to have their own findings. | ||
| And then in New York, the judge... | ||
| Trump has the power to sentence like right on the spot. | ||
| So there's not some type, like in the federal system, there's like this, there's a sentencing period and the sentencing period is going to sort of like draw out. | ||
| So someone can be found guilty on federal charges and then appeal, appeal, appeal. | ||
| There's no sentence and there's like this big limbo process. | ||
| Not in New York. | ||
| The judge may well have already decided what Trump's fate is and is just waiting on a rigged jury. | ||
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| We've made a promise to you for that moment. | ||
| And to also, obviously, bring to you the people who have been the greatest sounding voices in this moment in time. | ||
| Somebody... | ||
| Who has regularly come on this program and who has defended Donald Trump is his attorney, Alina Habba. | ||
| I know she's a fan favorite of this audience. | ||
| She was on last night questioning why is this happening to Donald Trump and not, I don't know, somebody we talked about during this show, Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Don't forget what they're doing here. | ||
| Don't forget what trial we're dealing with here. | ||
| If they're saying that he's doing it, it's because they've done it themselves. | ||
| President Trump has done nothing wrong. | ||
| Who has done something wrong was exactly the example of what we just saw. | ||
| This man has a crush on this judge. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he peddles the false narrative that the Democrats right now need because President Biden cannot win on policies. | ||
| He cannot win on immigration. | ||
| He cannot win on anything. | ||
| So they have somebody come up who's from back in the day and fail to acknowledge the fact that Hillary Clinton Actually got an FEC violation for funneling money through a law firm, for booking it as a legal expense. | ||
| That is the person that should be sitting on trial right now, not President Trump. | ||
| So Alina Habba, obviously so incredibly strong and doing such a fantastic job being. | ||
| The spokesperson now for Donald Trump on all of these legal issues, Lena Hava, is inside of the courthouse with Donald Trump. | ||
| What is happening inside of the courthouse? | ||
| That's a big question. | ||
| Something, of course, that we are following. | ||
| We've had no jury rings or notes or questions to the judge since we've been live. | ||
| There were a number of questions at 9.30 when the court opened this morning. | ||
| The judge had to reread all the instructions to the jury. | ||
| He refuses to give them the instructions, which is insane. | ||
| And the instructions themselves are unconstitutional, as we have enumerated here. | ||
| And Mike Davis says that the judge will face severe consequences for being part of a criminal conspiracy. | ||
| But what's happening inside the court right now? | ||
| In a minute here, we're going to play you... | ||
| The latest from inside of the court, from people who have actually stood inside the court, watched the deliberations this morning, listened to the judge, seen the jury, and those independent legal analysts are telling us that it's going to be a hung jury. | ||
| That they believe that upwards of half the jury, based on what their read is, and it's not scientific, right? | ||
| But based on what their read is, that at least half the jury members... | ||
| Uh, are, are deeply suspicious of what's going on here. | ||
| Hence the fact that they've been ALX nine hours now, nine hours or more. | ||
| ALX has been keeping track of how long the jury's been in deliberations. | ||
| More than nine hours of jury deliberations, nine hours and 15 minutes. | ||
| Not a great time. | ||
| Not a slam dunk case. | ||
| Clearly something's gone horribly awry for the prosecution here for you to have a 9 hour and 15 minute deliberation and that clock continues to tick. | ||
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Okay, all right. | |
| So, breaking news from out of the trial. | ||
| The legal analysts that have been standing inside of the courtroom this morning and for the better part of the last few weeks summarize where we are currently. | ||
| So, this was analysis. | ||
| That happened just seconds ago. | ||
| And so this is the freshest information that we can possibly get. | ||
| It's good for a news break, okay? | ||
| We've talked a lot about the structure of the case, brought on a lot of guests. | ||
| And again, be ready. | ||
| We got Stephen Miller, Laura Trump coming up. | ||
| We're going to have an awesome program. | ||
| And hopefully, they'll come back with, hey, we're not going to... | ||
| It's going to be a hung jury, right? | ||
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Hopefully. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, here's what we have so far. | ||
| This is the breaking news from inside the courthouse in New York. | ||
| Let's roll. | ||
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Well, you have to assume that there was some disagreement. | |
| You don't send out a note to a judge for clarification unless clarification is needed. | ||
| That doesn't mean that it's a serious block or a breakdown of communications. | ||
| The fact they were asking about an inference could be the result of a couple of things. | ||
| One is, how much weight can we give the evidence? | ||
| But the other one is also, do we have cooperation for Michael Cohen? | ||
| It's interesting that three of the four transcript portions that they asked for are actually David Pecker, which may reflect the fact that the jury understands that Pecker is far more credible than Cohen. | ||
| But all of this is inferential. | ||
| When you look at what they heard from the Trump Tower, it's all inference because there's good things for both sides that came out of Pecker's testimony on Trump Tower. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hey, Lydia, I wanted to ask you this because I read one of your notes. | ||
| The three unlawful means that bump this up to a felony that Judge Mershon read to the jury in his instructions were violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, falsification of other business records, violation of tax laws. | ||
| Judge Janine pointed out that the federal election campaign violation is a federal law. | ||
| And how do you charge that at the state level? | ||
| At least half of a tax law would be federal. | ||
| You could charge New York. | ||
| But you think that he is probably most vulnerable on either the falsification of business records or that tax charge. | ||
| Tell us more about that. | ||
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I do. | |
| And that's a really good point about the federal election campaign violations being a federal matter and the big question as to whether the district attorney Alvin Bragg can even have the jurisdiction to bring that type of charge. | ||
| But at this juncture, because those charges have been allowed to move forward to this point, those issues are going to be resolved on appeal. | ||
| So what I mean is that in terms of the jury kind of getting this evidence and being asked which one of these unlawful means is present, the business records... | ||
| And the tax documents seem to present a problem for Donald Trump. | ||
| And I say that because The business records in the underlying crime could be satisfied if the jury finds that Michael Cohen lied on records. | ||
| It doesn't have to be in that case for this underlying object crime that Donald Trump lied on records because it could be that the intent to conceal could be someone else's unlawful act. | ||
| And that could be Michael Cohen. | ||
| And that could potentially be established by Michael Cohen lying to open up the bank accounts. | ||
| And he testified that he did because he lied on records to the bank saying that he was opening them up. | ||
| for real estate consulting services, not for an NDA with a pornographic film star. | ||
| He also lied in establishing his LLC. | ||
| And so my concern there is if the jury is perhaps confused about FICA or if they're confused by the other election issues, that seems to be a pretty straightforward way in which they could find an unlawful influence of the election, particularly because they have a laptop in the jury deliberations room. | ||
| They're able to view the documents, too, as they're engaging in these discussions. | ||
| There's still a massive hurdle of establishing that Donald Trump would have had the intent to conceal that business records offense. | ||
| So no way am I predicting a conviction. | ||
| I just think that that is a point of vulnerability. | ||
| Kerry, what have your observations been so far as when we are in our eight, eight and a half hours now of deliberations? | ||
| Are you seeing some signs or signals that there could be some disagreement within the jury? | ||
| I think the fact that they went back to the judge and had these questions answered. | ||
| Now, on the tax crime issue, though, one thing that has really troubled me is that we've sat inside this courthouse now for weeks. | ||
| We've heard almost nothing about alleged tax crimes. | ||
| In fact, we really heard about it during closing arguments when we suddenly were told that the jury had a smorgasbord from which to pick from in terms of crimes go. | ||
| And so... | ||
| As far as a constitutional problem or even just due process, it's just remarkable to me that we're suddenly here. | ||
| The jury could find an underlying crime being something that has not been fleshed out with evidence or testimony. | ||
| And certainly, if Trump is to be convicted, that would be something that they should raise on appeal for sure. | ||
| So, Jonathan, one last question to you in terms of due process and fairness. | ||
| The prosecution went through this entire trial knowing full well. | ||
| What these predicate charges that bump this up to a felony would be, but the defense didn't have any idea. | ||
| How in any universe is that fair? | ||
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No, it's one of the glaring constitutional and due process violations in this case. | |
| We have layers and layers, in my view, of reversible error. | ||
| That the jury can just pick any of the three crimes and still be considered unanimous, even if they don't agree on what occurred, really shocks the conscience. | ||
| You could literally have a 444 jury with only four jurors agreeing on any given point as to what occurred. | ||
| For most of us, that is not constitutional and it's quite shocking. | ||
| It's made even worse when these are ill-defined crimes. | ||
| And the court just says, just be unanimous that something happened with regards to a second crime. | ||
| You don't have to agree on what it is. | ||
| That's really a rather fluid standard. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, you have some torched. | ||
| Reporting there from outside of the court in New York, Jonathan Turley, who's been just absolutely excellent on these points and just absolutely excellent on these fronts, saying it shocks the conscience that the defense didn't even know what charges they were going to bring against Donald Trump. | ||
| So how can they defend against it? | ||
| But there have been multiple reversible errors in this situation. | ||
| Trial, but that's not the point. | ||
| The point is to put Donald Trump either in prison. | ||
| I mean, we'll see. | ||
| Like Mike Davis says, do it. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| We want you to do it. | ||
| Like Donald Trump will then win in a 100-vote electoral landslide if you do it. | ||
| Or at the very least, smear Donald Trump with the convicted felon label. | ||
| You're a convicted felon, right? | ||
| And that seems to be more likely. | ||
| More likely that Donald Trump will simply be smeared with a label of you're a bad person. | ||
| And we expect nobody has really been paying attention. | ||
| We rigged every conceivable thing against you. | ||
| And now we've got the bad person label for you. | ||
| This is something that Joe Biden has clearly orchestrated from inside of his campaign. | ||
| Something that has been in the works for a long time. | ||
| My contention. | ||
| Why is this judge getting all the Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro cases? | ||
| Why does every Trump case go to this specific judge? | ||
| Just like in the third world, these judges get bought off, right? | ||
| And they're not real. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| None of these charges are real, and nobody who has any type of clear-eyed, clear-mindedness, Agrees. | ||
| Now, I was just sent an update from Eric Trump. | ||
| There's a massive, a massive breaking update here, ladies and gentlemen, from inside of the courthouse. | ||
| Eric Trump has announced that they're getting the pie guy pizza in New York. | ||
| So lunchtime, says Eric Trump, with a photo. | ||
| Can we expand that photo? | ||
| See if there's anything else. | ||
| Okay, no other details in the photo. | ||
| Just the pizza. | ||
| We don't even know what kind of pizza. | ||
| And a good precursor here because Laura Trump will be joining the program soon along with Trump's top advisor and really like the brain nervous system behind every policy that you ever liked with Donald Trump's first term. | ||
| Stephen Miller will be on the program along with a number of other fantastic allies for the president. | ||
| And really wise people who served in his administration, Monica Crowley, will be up next. | ||
| But speaking of somebody who has had plenty of time inside of the courtroom with Donald Trump, who's really, it's her job, her main job to be inside of the court with Donald Trump, Alina Haba, was up and on with Fox News yesterday describing how these are Biden trials and how these Biden trials are What's going on, Klein? | ||
| These Biden trials are effectively being utilized to interfere with Trump running for president. | ||
| And she makes that point. | ||
| Fox News pushes back on her. | ||
| But it's important to listen to the totality of the argument with Shannon Briggs. | ||
| And you can kind of see exactly what the Trump team has gone through and where they're heading next. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Alina Hava. | ||
| With me now outside the courthouse, woman of former President Trump's attorneys, Alina Habba. | ||
| She is here supporting President Trump, but not representing him as part of the legal team in this case. | ||
| You wait now. | ||
| How is the president feeling? | ||
| How are you feeling about this case in the hands of the jury? | ||
| I think it's business as usual. | ||
| Nothing's really changed in terms of our perspective. | ||
| Listening to the jury charges was concerning, to be honest. | ||
| I think that they were, and it's been widely reported since we came out of the jury charges, that there is clearly any of... | ||
| The four underlying crimes that he could have done, they don't care what it was. | ||
| The judge said, basically, all you have to do is figure out whether there was intent or not. | ||
| And there has been no proof of that. | ||
| But the judge gave a very, very generous bandwidth to the prosecution. | ||
| And I think that's why the president's comments and sentiments are exactly accurate. | ||
| You know, Mother Teresa really couldn't get out of this one because if you have intent for a scintilla of a second, and it could be for anything, for any one of these four things. | ||
| Taxes, campaign, all the things that, frankly, they showed no evidence of. | ||
| But they gave them so much breadth that I have concerns. | ||
| Do you have faith, though, in fellow New Yorkers as a jury, a jury of your peers? | ||
| I don't know that it's possible to find a jury of your peers for somebody like a former president. | ||
| But faith in the system here and these New York jurors is now, his faith sits in their hands. | ||
| Shannon, I haven't had faith in the state of New York since I saw what they do to President Trump and started working for him. | ||
| I'll be honest with you. | ||
| What I've seen over the past few cases, what I've seen in some of the other cases in the state of New York, what I've seen with the coordination with DAs and AGs, and we have some information that's come out today, obviously, about judges' affiliations and other things like that. | ||
| I mean, it's corrupt as can be. | ||
| And unfortunately, the state of New York has failed its citizens. | ||
| And we're seeing it time and time again. | ||
| But it's failed its citizens for one party. | ||
| And that's silencing the Republican Party. | ||
| And it's not right. | ||
| It's un-American. | ||
| And frankly, at this point, you know, I've had enough angry soundbites in these courthouses now. | ||
| I could say almost entire block. | ||
| I was down there for 11 weeks. | ||
| I was at another courthouse behind me for three weeks. | ||
| And now I'm here. | ||
| It's a disgrace to the American people. | ||
| We should all... | ||
| I pray to... | ||
| To save our country, frankly, at this point. | ||
| Well, do you think, though, that the jury can parse through that, can consider all of those things? | ||
| They were told to quiet the outside noise, quiet the outside voices. | ||
| But listen, the whole world is watching this. | ||
| They're watching and waiting this jury. | ||
| They must feel the pressure of that. | ||
| And we know there are at least two attorneys on the panel as well. | ||
| Do you trust that they're going to work through this in a responsible manner, though? | ||
| You know, I don't think it matters what your profession is. | ||
| I think that it's a good thing they're asking questions. | ||
| It's a good thing they're trying to look at tests. | ||
| Testimony, credibility, I think that's very important here. | ||
| I think credibility is the one thing that they absolutely have shown that they have none of, from the top to the bottom, frankly. | ||
| And if the jury considers that and discredits any testimony that was frankly false, and it all was in my opinion, then we're going to be fine and we should get an acquittal. | ||
| But we're in the state of New York. | ||
| Like I said, the jury charges I thought were a bit unfair, very unfair, frankly. | ||
| And President Trump is President Trump. | ||
| And what they're doing really is not about books and records. | ||
| It's a sideshow. | ||
| It's a way to stop the American people from looking at President Biden's policies that are failing. | ||
| It's a way from distracting. | ||
| And if you look at what happened yesterday with Robert De Niro, that is a low state of our country. | ||
| We've got a old timer. | ||
| Actor coming from California as a spokesperson for a campaign, the current administration running America? | ||
| What a sad state of affairs. | ||
| It is just pathetic. | ||
| Well, let me ask you this. | ||
| It seems like, and President Trump, he predicted this before the first indictment even happened here with Alvin Bragg more than a year ago. | ||
| He said it would be good for him. | ||
| He thought. | ||
| It has been in the polls. | ||
| It has been in fundraising. | ||
| So was there a net positive to him from this whole thing? | ||
| Well, if you want to look at it from a political standpoint, I think... | ||
| Yeah, that's different. | ||
| We have Americans. | ||
| We have people that were Biden supporters. | ||
| I can't imagine how or why, but they're now waking up and saying, whoa, this is not America. | ||
| This is very un-American and we can't survive another four years of this. | ||
| So if you want to look at it that way, sure. | ||
| But I don't think countries need to hit rock bottom. | ||
| I don't understand why we couldn't have continued on an upward trajectory of American morals, of the Constitution. | ||
| I'm not sure why we had to hit this low. | ||
| But you know, when you talk about things like morals, people will say, this is a case about a former president, somebody who was running for president, paying off a porn star who alleges that she had a relationship with him. | ||
| I mean, that sparks a whole other conversation about morality, who's running the country. | ||
| Obviously, voters in 2016, it was not a problem, or they factored in what they knew about the Access Hollywood tape and other things, and they were comfortable sending President Trump to the White House. | ||
| They've had four years to think about the way he performed, now four years of President Biden. | ||
| But some of them will always now have this vision with President Trump that these kinds of dramas and things. | ||
| It's called extortion. | ||
| Extortion is something that happens with people when they are powerful, when they are strong-voiced, and when people listen to them. | ||
| It is a natural consequence of being a very effective human being in this unfortunate culture that we have. | ||
| It is litigious. | ||
| That is what America has become. | ||
| Unfortunately, he can't really do anything in office, so he's got to use the same means as somebody who's just trying to have a quick slip and fall and make money. | ||
| And that is, frankly, what we're seeing right now. | ||
| This is exactly a Biden show because he's got to distract the American people. | ||
| But the Biden administration is not responsible for this trial. | ||
| How can you say the Biden administration is not responsible for this trial? | ||
| It's a state trial. | ||
| It's Alvin Bragg. | ||
| Whether you think there's a political motive for him, it's not connected to the DOJ. | ||
| I mean, the Fed's passed on these election charges. | ||
| Shannon, you should look at how many logs they have of state officials, Letitia James, Fannie Willis, visiting the White House, and then tell me that this is not a Biden trial. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| The Fed's passed on this case is the point I'm making. | ||
| The Fed's passed on this case. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Also, D.A. Cy Vance passed on this case. | ||
| Years ago, and then it came back. | ||
| And Brad passed on this case. | ||
| You know when it came back? | ||
| When he decided to run for office. | ||
| So tell me how that's not an indication that Joe Biden, who just sent his campaign down here with Robert De Niro yesterday, isn't... | ||
| Frankly, any question that we had of that was squashed yesterday. | ||
| And if you have even more concerns about whether he's involved in this, look at the fact that he is publicizing, literally publicizing, for tonight to have a speech if a verdict comes out. | ||
| That's a sad state of affairs. | ||
| Meanwhile, our country is falling apart. | ||
| He's got bigger fish to fry. | ||
| Do not think, though, that any president would want to weigh in on something that's this historic, a former president, his predecessor, whatever the verdict or decision may be. | ||
| I wish that Biden had that same sentiment about the border, fentanyl, and our children being mutilated. | ||
| I would prefer that he would focus on the real things instead of trying to attack his political opponent, who he just cannot beat. | ||
| Well, we'll see what the jury does and how quickly they do it, Alina. | ||
| Thanks for stopping by. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Good to see you. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, the great Alina Habba. | ||
| We are very much wanting. | ||
| To get some new or breaking news out of this trial, it could happen. | ||
| In fact, at this moment, yesterday, we saw the jury ring the courthouse and everybody got, like, held their breath and sent a note to the judge. | ||
| And what the note to the judge could have meant is we have a verdict, right? | ||
| And everybody has to run back into the courtroom. | ||
| That happened literally right about... | ||
| 2.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| Between 2.30 and 3 o 'clock Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| That happened yesterday. | ||
| We haven't heard a peep from the jury today. | ||
| So, what does that mean? | ||
| They sent multiple notes for clarification. | ||
| They had the judge read back to them the absurd orders that they're not allowed to have. | ||
| They're not allowed to get the jury instructions. | ||
| Print it off. | ||
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Why? | |
| Like, why? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| How could you possibly justify that? | ||
| We don't know exactly. | ||
| Melina Habba making an incredible case there that these are Biden trials. | ||
| I would simply add that Joe Biden sent his number three guy at the DOJ, Michael Colangelo, to go run this operation. | ||
| Against Donald Trump to Alvin Bragg's office. | ||
| Why would anybody in that position take a demotion? | ||
| Michael Colangelo took a demotion, left the Department of Justice to go move to the district attorney in Lower Manhattan's office to go run this rigged trial. | ||
| This was all centrally coordinated from the top. | ||
| It makes my blood boil when I watch clips like that of Shannon Bream trying to explain away. | ||
| Joe Biden had nothing to do with this. | ||
| You're not allowed to notice. | ||
| This is the biggest crime in all corporate media. | ||
| Corporate media, you're not allowed to notice. | ||
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Okay? | |
| It's illegal to notice. | ||
| You can't just put the data together and say, oh, yeah, okay. | ||
| This is totally what's going on. | ||
| One, it's probably too fragile for your psychology. | ||
| And two, because the hive mind, the corporate press, demands... | ||
| That you repeat the line. | ||
| Joe Biden had nothing to do with this. | ||
| This is a state case. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Good for Lena Haba. | ||
| Body checking. | ||
| Shannon Bream there on Fox. | ||
| It does seem as though what she's saying, that the voters don't care about this or that this is actually helping Donald Trump, is true and is playing out in all of the recent polls we've been talking about for the entire show. | ||
| But the polls are demonstrating that this is... | ||
| Helping Trump, not hurting Trump. | ||
| That this is eroding the support with Joe Biden. | ||
| Not helping it. | ||
| We've shown you the footage of Joe Biden's rallies yesterday. | ||
| It was total humiliation. | ||
| Nobody's showing up for the Blacks for Biden rally. | ||
| There's Blacks for Biden rally. | ||
| Not a single person shows up. | ||
| Joe Biden speaks to effectively an empty gymnasium. | ||
| And the kids that were there were forced to be there because they go to school. | ||
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There? | |
| In that school? | ||
| Connected to that gymnasium? | ||
| They literally marched in at gunpoint to go stand for dictator Biden and clap for dictator Biden? | ||
| It's Philadelphia, so it very well might have been at gunpoint. | ||
| Yeah, it's not working. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| CNN finding out live with their live polling that just, like, nobody cares. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Think Trump did something illegal in the New York Cush Money case. | ||
| I've been interested in whether or not these numbers would change at all during the course of this trial. | ||
| Simply put, John, they have not. | ||
| Pre-opening statements, think Trump did something illegal, 46%. | ||
| After the direct examination of Michael Cohen by the prosecution, look at where we are now. | ||
| 46%. | ||
| The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious, in fact, dropped from 40% to a little bit more than 35% during the course of this trial. | ||
| So, yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors, but when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no change, at least so far, John. | ||
| Any possible reasons why? | ||
| Yeah, I think the question is what's exactly cooking here? | ||
| Why hasn't there been much of a change? | ||
| While folks like you and me, real news junkies, might be paying really close attention to what's going on, the fact is most Americans don't really care that much. | ||
| So closely following news about economy inflation, that's number one. | ||
| It's 65%. | ||
| Look at immigration, 52%. | ||
| Election legitimacy, 49%. | ||
| Abortion, 47%. | ||
| All the way down on this list of issues tested by the Ipsos Knowledge Panel is Trump's court cases at 42%, significantly less than economy and inflation. | ||
| The fact is, John, when we're looking at these numbers, what we see is Americans' minds aren't changing. | ||
| And a big reason why Americans' minds aren't changing is at this particular point, John, they are tuned out of the conversation. | ||
| Wild set of data. | ||
| That Americans just don't care, and that the ruling either way isn't going to affect their votes. | ||
| It's a really bad thing for Joe Biden, because the whole point of this is to say, you're not going to vote for a convicted felon, will you? | ||
| Well, yeah, you know, Johnny Cash has a couple mugshots. | ||
| He was a convicted felon. | ||
| We don't mind listening to Johnny Cash. | ||
| Any Johnny Cash fans out there? | ||
| You know, Robert Downey Jr. is a convicted felon. | ||
| We went and saw Iron Man and The Avengers. | ||
| In fact, those are the most viewed, those are the most successful movies like in Hollywood history. | ||
| Some of the highest earning, like Robert Downey Jr. is a convicted felon. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, but our morals, the morals in this country, our betters. | ||
| Don't you remember? | ||
| This country is a country of dignity. | ||
| Okay, well, why the hell is Hunter Biden sniffing around the White House? | ||
| Why got Hunter Biden out of the Easter egg roll? | ||
| Why is the Easter Bunny coming up to Joe Biden going like this, scaring the hell out of him? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Why is Alice Cooper, the first lady, bedazzled garbage bag? | ||
| Why are those things happening? | ||
| If there's decency back in Congress and in our government, why is AOC and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, why are these people members of Congress? | ||
| Why are they still on the Foreign Affairs Committee? | ||
| Why is Eric Swalwell allowed to sit on a foreign affairs committee when yum yum, bang bang, fang fang, There is no decency in politics. | ||
| It is a hideous and ugly game. | ||
| It is a sport of brawling. | ||
| And Donald Trump is a brawler. | ||
| Somebody would know that better than anybody. | ||
| Is Monica Crowley. | ||
| She's the host of the Monica Crowley podcast. | ||
| And, formerly, the assistant to a couple of presidents, but President Trump as well in the Treasury Department. | ||
| Monica Crowley joins the show now. | ||
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We need decency back in the White House! | |
| So we're going to lock up our political opponents. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You've worked for a bunch of presidents, okay? | ||
| You know Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Donald Trump. | ||
| You knew all these men personally. | ||
| You know these men personally, in Donald Trump's case. | ||
| And yeah, maybe you can talk about the greater overarching politics at play here, Monica, when it comes to power politics, because that's what this really seems to be about in New York. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I'm sitting in New York right now, Benny. | ||
| It's great to join you from the belly of the beast, where just a couple of blocks south of me, this whole Stalin-esque show trial is taking place. | ||
| Yeah, I have been blessed to work for two American presidents, Richard Nixon in his last years, and of course Donald Trump when I was at the Treasury Department. | ||
| And then I've met every living president with the exception of Barack Obama. | ||
| Never met him and can't say I regret that. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| Look, politics ain't beanbag as the saying goes. | ||
| It's dirty, it's vicious, it's brutal, it's ruthless. | ||
| You know, there's a reason why in the New Testament when Satan takes Jesus to the top of the mountain and he's tempting him, one of the big things he tempts him with is all of the kingdoms of the world. | ||
| Well, what is that? | ||
| That is political power. | ||
| So we know that at base, political power is very dark and it's exercised in really brutal, vicious, evil ways. | ||
| And this latest attempt to sideline President Trump is no exception to that rule. | ||
| All presidents exercise raw power, some more effectively than others. | ||
| And in this case, you have this corrupt, demented hack, who's clearly a puppet for bigger forces than him, pulling the strings here to try to marginalize, neutralize Donald Trump as a political force. | ||
| But this is just the latest iteration of this, Benny, right? | ||
| June of this year is going to be, what, the eighth, seventh or eighth anniversary of Donald Trump coming down that escalator in June of 2015. | ||
| And from the moment they recognized that he represented a very strong, powerful force in this country, America first, a real movement. | ||
| That he wasn't just a run-of-the-mill kind of Republican candidate or a run-of-the-mill kind of leader. | ||
| That he was actually leading something very exceptional. | ||
| And because he wasn't one of them, he couldn't be controlled by them when it dawned on them. | ||
| They began this onslaught against him to try to remove him from the political landscape. | ||
| So the Russia hoax, the two fake impeachments, harassing him nonstop throughout his presidency, undermining his policies, the rigged 2020 election, the January 6th frame-up, all of it designed to sideline Donald Trump. | ||
| And the fact that none of it has worked. | ||
| And in fact, the exact opposite. | ||
| Not only has it not worked for them, it's actually worked for him to the point he is so strengthened by all of this. | ||
| People are now really awake to what he's been subjected to over the last seven or eight years that the poll numbers are going in the opposite direction. | ||
| They are strengthening him. | ||
| People have had it. | ||
| People of all political stripes have had it with the corruption. | ||
| They understand the raw exercise of power, but they do not understand or Or want to endorse in any way the corruption of all of our institutions, including our legal system. | ||
| So all of this is backfiring. | ||
| I find it quite delicious. | ||
| And if, God forbid, there is a conviction, Benny, I think it's good for maybe three to five polling points, don't you? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| It hasn't seemed to work out so far. | ||
| And even if they lock Donald Trump in New York, he can do these remarkable rallies in the Bronx. | ||
| And the imagery from this is wild. | ||
| I don't know if you're a native New Yorker. | ||
| You clearly have a place there. | ||
| Are you a native New Yorker? | ||
| Did you ever think you'd see anything like this, Monica? | ||
| Well, first of all, I'm not a native New Yorker. | ||
| I was actually born on an army base in Arizona. | ||
| I know you've got Carrie Lake on the show today. | ||
| She's a great friend. | ||
| So I'm an army brat out of Arizona, but I grew up in New Jersey, so sort of always around the New York area. | ||
| And the Northeast is just incredibly deep. | ||
| So, none of us have ever seen anything like what happened last week in the South Bronx for a Republican candidate. | ||
| But again, Benny, the thing that everybody needs to remember about Donald Trump is that he's not a traditional Republican. | ||
| He's not a traditional candidate. | ||
| This is a man who came out of nowhere in 2015, very successful in business and the media and entertainment, but had never done any of this before and started telling the American people the truth. | ||
| And it caught their ear because they had never heard any of this before. | ||
| And so while the last two election cycles, 2016, where he won, 2020, which we know was a rigged situation, I think a lot of the standard Democrat lines coming at the Black community, like you just heard from Joe Biden over the last week because they're so desperate, they're hemorrhaging Black sport. | ||
| But all of these like standard issue lines that the left and the Democrats have used forever to try to appeal to these constituencies as they took them for granted. | ||
| None of it is working now. | ||
| It's falling on deaf ears. | ||
| People are like, we've heard this. | ||
| It's a bunch of BS. | ||
| We don't believe it. | ||
| You know who we believe? | ||
| We believe Donald Trump because he has told us the truth. | ||
| And then for four years as president, he's actually delivered for us. | ||
| So there's a real track record there. | ||
| So when they're calling him a racist or they're calling him a dictator. | ||
| The American people are like, are you kidding me? | ||
| This is a joke, right? | ||
| Like, you are that desperate? | ||
| None of it is working. | ||
| You can see all the frustration from the likes of James Garville and David Axelrod. | ||
| They're pulling their hair out because their old playbook just isn't working. | ||
| And Donald Trump is not just not marginalized, but he's thriving. | ||
| You know, Betty, they cannot believe that this man is still standing after they've thrown the kitchen sink at him. | ||
| They can't believe he's not just still standing, but he's thriving. | ||
| And he's the leading candidate for the presidency come November. | ||
| They cannot believe it. | ||
| I don't think there's anything more terrifying than seeing footage like this. | ||
| I think that this actually strikes so much fear because... | ||
| It's real, and it's not totally manufactured. | ||
| You see Joe Biden do a Blacks for Biden event yesterday, and no one shows up. | ||
| It's empty. | ||
| There's no one there. | ||
| This is in Philadelphia, and this is what it looks like in the Bronx, in New York. | ||
| You're right about the rigging, and they would only do the rigging against Donald Trump. | ||
| There's a lot of effort, right, to concoct all of these lies and to run all of these psyops against Trump. | ||
| It's a lot of effort, and they would only do it if the guy was a threat. | ||
| They'd only do it if there was really an existential fear of him animating the American people against them. | ||
| And so what does that mean exactly, Monaco? | ||
| I guess the core of my question is, you watched... | ||
| Where you're a student of history and you saw a similar apparatus attack Richard Nixon and pry him from office and strip him, extra constitutionally, from office. | ||
| The playbook's the same. | ||
| Spies inside of his administration, fake crimes, fake investigations, fake impeachments. | ||
| It does seem like they wouldn't pull that playbook. | ||
| It's a risky playbook. | ||
| They wouldn't pull it unless... | ||
| They were really in threat. | ||
| Their existence was in jeopardy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, they have a lot of power in this country. | ||
| And what the American people need to understand, Benny, and I talk about this all the time on my podcast, is that we think that power resides in the White House or Capitol Hill or the Supreme Court. | ||
| And yes, those institutions do have real power. | ||
| But the actual power in this country where decisions are made and executed really happens in the deep state. | ||
| The permanent administrative state or permanent bureaucracy with these shadowy figures who are unaccountable and unelected. | ||
| The guys like Peter Strzok, who sort of float from institution to institution, the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, and they move around and they're granted tremendous power, but they're not accountable to us. | ||
| Most people don't even know their names, right? | ||
| Unless there's scandal that blows up. | ||
| That's where the real power is in this country. | ||
| And as we have seen more and more historical evidence, going back to the JFK assassination, and then you mentioned my very first boss, former President Richard Nixon, which now we know, based on all of this evidence and great books like Jeff Shepard's and others coming out, that the deep state needed to get rid of Richard Nixon. | ||
| And so four out of the seven Watergate burglars were CIA, right? | ||
| So the American people need to understand that duly elected Presidents and others in this country, including like Supreme Court justices who are appointed, not elected. | ||
| But if they pose an existential threat to the deep state's absolute grip on power and its corrupt gravy train where they're making hundreds of billions of dollars through wars and the rest, they need to be removed. | ||
| And the deep state will find a way to attack them. | ||
| And remove them. | ||
| And I love that you're putting up these old pictures of me with my first boss, President Nixon. | ||
| He was such a good man. | ||
| And it was only in his last years when I got to him, Benny, did it start to dawn on him that perhaps he was removed by these deep state entities. | ||
| There was a book written in 1992. | ||
| He was still alive. | ||
| I was working with him at the time called Silent Coup. | ||
| And that book began to excavate the evidence of the deep state coup against Richard Nixon. | ||
| And of course, now we have so much more material. | ||
| But there was another picture that you put up of me with Nixon and President Reagan, one of the greatest days of my life, by the way. | ||
| Here I am between my two heroes, Benny. | ||
| And I put my arms around both of them and gave them both a squeeze. | ||
| And that's when the picture was taken. | ||
| They were both like a little surprised that I squeezed them both. | ||
| Ronald Reagan had the assassination attempt, and he had Iran-Contra. | ||
| There were all of these policies or attempts to undermine and destroy Reagan's presidency. | ||
| That in retrospect now kind of makes sense that they were deep state attempts to remove Ronald Reagan as well. | ||
| And then, of course, now you've got Donald Trump and this relentless attack to remove him. | ||
| Anytime you have a leader who is not one of them, who is a peacemaker, who doesn't want oars, who is not playing their game, that is empowering and enriching all of them. | ||
| If you have such a leader, then you are a target. | ||
| And Donald Trump, I think, didn't understand that when he came in, but he certainly does now. | ||
| So in any second term, he's going to be a lot wiser. | ||
| We, I mean, far be it for me to comment on women's fashion and wisdom and being a lot wiser. | ||
| I think you should bring back this haircut. | ||
| I think you should. | ||
| I mean, we've seen it. | ||
| Maybe we can go back to the Nixon photo. | ||
| I think, Monica, maybe you should just go for it. | ||
| The 80s are back, baby, you know? | ||
| Listen, I mean... | ||
| I'll grow a mullet with you. | ||
| Okay, then you have a deal. | ||
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I will take you up on that, Benny, for sure. | |
| Those bangs, by the way, I still love the 80s big hair. | ||
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And as you can tell, I'm still like rocking a version of it. | |
| That's right! | ||
| Okay, so the banks are a little more under control, but you see the tease in the bank? | ||
| I still love that. | ||
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Okay, so you're not going to convince me otherwise. | |
| Bring back big hair. | ||
| I think you bring up such a remarkable point, which is if somebody stands against the super state in this country and the people that are actually in control, then you get... | ||
| Richard Nixon was the most popular president to ever win re-election and won in the most dominant way that anyone's ever won in American history. | ||
| It was a proper landslide. | ||
| And they were able to... | ||
| I mean, taking a step back, this is going to be sort of anathema to the entire program today, but rigging things against Donald Trump is different. | ||
| In an era where there's only a handful of swing states, four or five swing states, right? | ||
| I mean, against Richard Nixon, this is what the electoral map looked like. | ||
| And they were able to effectively, extra constitutionally, remove this man from office. | ||
| And so how much power do these people have? | ||
| It's quite terrifying, frankly, if you think about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look at that map. | ||
| That's 1972. | ||
| That was a 49-state sweep for Richard Nixon. | ||
| The only state that he lost was Massachusetts, and he was running against George McGovern. | ||
| I mean, that was astonishing. | ||
| And by the way, you know, the left has been cheating in elections for a very long time. | ||
| There have always been shenanigans since the beginning of the Republic. | ||
| But when we talk about President Nixon, I spent a good deal of time talking to him about the 1960 election when he ran against John F. Kennedy. | ||
| And, you know, on election night that night, Benny, He was actually presented with concrete evidence of election fraud in three states. | ||
| Cook County, Illinois, and Illinois was something of a swing state in 1960. | ||
| Now it's totally blue. | ||
| But Cook County, Illinois, around Chicago, West Virginia, and Texas, courtesy of Lyndon Johnson, JFK's running mate. | ||
| So the old man Kennedy, JFK's father, was... | ||
| Helping to orchestrate this fraud, try to get his son over the finish line. | ||
| And on election, Nixon was presented without evidence, and he refused to call for a recount. | ||
| He didn't want the country paralyzed by a destructive kind of recount. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Look, I think that they probably stole it from me, but the country is in the middle of a Cold War and it needs a full-time president and commander-in-chief. | ||
| Nixon never gets any credit for that, unfortunately, just like Donald Trump gets no credit for all the good that he's done. | ||
| But that election was essentially stolen from Richard Nixon. | ||
| And if you think about the arc of history, the what-ifs, Benny, if Nixon had become president in 1960... | ||
| Rather than in 1968, eight years later, when he ran and won, you would have had probably Vietnam, but done in a different way. | ||
| So you would not have maybe had the countercultural revolution and, you know, the deep state activity coming out of Vietnam. | ||
| You wouldn't have had Watergate. | ||
| And the whole cascade of history, which then gave rise to Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Revolution. | ||
| None of that would have happened, right? | ||
| So all of these decisions being made by the criminals who are really running this country have real impact on the country, on the American people, on the West, and on the world. | ||
| It is really profound. | ||
| Our friend Tucker Carlson, who I know you've been on his program multiple times, he pinpoints, and perhaps you're the person who put this in his mind, but I just love talking about it, and I can't help myself here. | ||
| And it does tie into what's happening to Trump right now, so it's germane to the conversation. | ||
| Tucker Carlson regularly denotes that Richard Nixon won in this landslide, was extremely popular, was able to get everything he wanted to get done legislatively. | ||
| He was very powerful. | ||
| And then he started asking questions about JFK's death. | ||
| And he started asking questions about the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| And he began bringing in CIA directors and saying, I know what you did to John. | ||
| And that's when all hell broke loose. | ||
| Based on your close personal experience with Nixon and your understanding of him later in life and maybe some of his realizations about what was really going on behind the scenes, can you speak to that? | ||
| Yeah, you know... | ||
| Richard Nixon and JFK were essentially the same congressional class. | ||
| So right out of World War II, and they both served in World War II, they entered Congress at relatively the same time. | ||
| I think Nixon was 46, and I think JFK was 48, or they may have been the same year. | ||
| And then Nixon ran for the Senate and won in 1950, and JFK was in the Senate as well. | ||
| They were friends. | ||
| You know, this was back in a time where you had bipartisan friendships, which really don't exist anymore. | ||
| But JFK and Richard Nixon were actually quite close. | ||
| And while they disagreed a lot on domestic policy and foreign policy, they were almost identical. | ||
| I mean, they were both hawks against the Soviet Union. | ||
| They were both strong anti-communists. | ||
| So they had a very good working relationship. | ||
| And so when the assassination came about, you know, it kind of lit Nixon's brain up. | ||
| Like, all right. | ||
| And because remember, the very first thing that Oswald said when he was apprehended was he said, I'm a patsy. | ||
| I'm a patsy. | ||
| And not very many people picked up on that. | ||
| But he was he was protesting his arrest by saying, hey, man, I'm just a patsy. | ||
| What did he mean by that? | ||
| And I think. | ||
| You know, Nixon, when he became president, when you become president, you get access to a lot of things, like the Kennedy files, and you get access to, like, the UFO and the space alien files, which on another day, Benny, you and I will have to talk about that because I did ask Nixon about the space aliens. | ||
| Area 51! | ||
| But you get access to all of this stuff, and he started asking serious questions about the death of his friend. | ||
| Who happened to be president, even though his family had sort of orchestrated the theft of that election away from him, he still felt that something wasn't quite right in the story that we were being told about the assassination. | ||
| So he started asking questions. | ||
| And then when you pair that with the fact that Nixon was making peace all over the place, like Donald Trump was. | ||
| So Nixon was ending the war in Vietnam, ending the draft, detente with the Soviet Union. | ||
| The opening to China. | ||
| Shuttle diplomacy all across the Middle East. | ||
| Richard Nixon. | ||
| Oh, I love that picture you guys just put up. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| It's beautiful, isn't it? | ||
| My two presidential bosses. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| I love them both so much. | ||
| And they were both outsiders, too. | ||
| So when he started raising these issues and saying, you know, the Warren Commission and By the way, a lot of people raised the question, including Tucker, like how did this backbencher out of Michigan, Gerald Ford, who was a very nice man, but not presidential timber, how does that guy suddenly become vice president and then president of the United States in the space of a couple of months? | ||
| You start asking that question, well, Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission. | ||
| So the deep state has ways of convincing candidates that they should accept person X as their running mate. | ||
| Oh, you'll be very happy with Lyndon Johnson as your running mate, or you'll be very happy with George H.W. Bush as your running mate, Mr. Reagan. | ||
| You know, these are our deep state characters. | ||
| And the deep state always needs an in into any administration. | ||
| And that's why I hope President Trump is on guard for any kind of deep state recommendations of his running mate. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| Do not listen to the whispers. | ||
| Nikki Haley, she'd be great. | ||
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Don't do it! | |
| Don't do it! | ||
| Please! | ||
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We beg you. | |
| We beg you. | ||
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We beg. | |
| But Monica Crowley would be amazing. | ||
| Monica Crowley. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I am available. | ||
| Yeah, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You served in the first Trump administration and hopefully in the next. | ||
| Monica, you're such a dear friend. | ||
| We learned so much having you on the program. | ||
| I have like 400 different follow-up questions for you on that. | ||
| So let's please do something more long form in the future. | ||
| I will do that, Benny. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Because they're just assassinating Trump. | ||
| They're assassinating Trump. | ||
| It's just a different form of assassination. | ||
| The Zapruder film got him, and so they're just assassinating Trump in a different way. | ||
| It's the Kennedy playbook, Nixon playbook all over. | ||
| And then they have to keep pressing it, Benny. | ||
| Like, you know, the assassination of JFK turned him into a martyr. | ||
| But, you know, when they removed Richard Nixon and that kind of political assassination, they have to stay on top of creating this whole narrative, this whole cult that Nixon was a villain and a criminal, a bad guy. | ||
| They keep it up to this very day. | ||
| Bob Woodward of the Washington Post. | ||
| He was U.S. Naval Intelligence. | ||
| And suddenly he becomes a top flight reporter at the Washington Post. | ||
| And suddenly this newbie reporter is on the biggest story of the century. | ||
| None of this is a coincidence. | ||
| All of these players are part of the deep state. | ||
| And they all have to continue banging the drum of their pack of lies that they sell to the American people about the situation around that president. | ||
| And it's all just one huge fiction. | ||
| And now the good news, though, I think, Benny, is that more and more people are waking up and they're waking up faster to the pack of lies that they're being sold. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Thanks to podcasts like yours and thanks to Monica Crowley. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| See you in the next Trump administration. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| Thank you so much, Benny. | ||
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Bye, Monica. | |
| Oh, man, you're speaking my love language. | ||
| You're talking about Trump, Kennedy, Nixon, the connections there. | ||
| It is remarkable, and nobody would know better than a Trump. | ||
| And so, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, joining the program now, the great Laura Trump, co-chair of the RNC. | ||
| Laura, thank you so much for being on the show. | ||
| I know you're all over the place, including stopping traffic. | ||
| In New York and giving such a wonderful testimony. | ||
| We said it was religious almost. | ||
| It was like you were preaching. | ||
| Such a wonderful testimony about your father-in-law, about the wonderful family that you're a part of. | ||
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| Since we covered that live, I might as well just start asking, what was that like? | ||
| That was a remarkable moment. | ||
| You standing in the middle of the street in Manhattan, the whole city stops. | ||
| Well, in traditional Trump fashion, nobody really told us what we were doing. | ||
| It was about five minutes before they were like, yeah, you guys want to go outside and say a couple words? | ||
| And of course, Eric Don and I said, yeah, we'll go outside. | ||
| We'll talk to them. | ||
| Because obviously, just prior to that, who did you have out there? | ||
| You had Robert De Niro sent by the Biden campaign, who would now, I guess, Biddy is just fully admitting that, yeah, this entire show trial, this entire clown show of a trial has been about one thing. | ||
| Election interference. | ||
| At least they're admitting it now by showing up there, by holding their rally there with Robert De Niro. | ||
| So we went out and honored to do so. | ||
| And quite frankly, honored to be there to support a man who I think is remarkable. | ||
| And I think when you look at Donald Trump and everything he has consistently had thrown his way, literally, Benny, from the day he came down the golden escalator in Trump Tower in 2015 and said he was running for president as a Republican. | ||
| They have been attacking him and it goes up to today, except... | ||
| Today is really a new low. | ||
| And when you just think that there is no bottom for the Democrats, you finally start to realize that they're willing to go anywhere. | ||
| And they're willing to go to an un-American, communist, banana republic-type place like where we have found ourselves right now with Donald Trump sitting down as a jury deliberates in a courtroom in Manhattan. | ||
| It is sick and it is disgusting, but it was an honor to be there by his side. | ||
| Eric is there today. | ||
| It was an honor to go out and speak on his behalf, and I will do so every single day up until we ensure he is the 47th president of the United States. | ||
| You are doing an incredible job ensuring that the RNC is finally taking election security seriously. | ||
| It's going to be very interesting. | ||
| What's going to happen at that convention? | ||
| We just, we can't wait. | ||
| We hope you bring back, I just want to say this, I know we're live, but now's the best time. | ||
| I hope you bring back the white light bars. | ||
| Behind Trump for that epic entrance, please. | ||
| Yeah, that was one of the best. | ||
| I know. | ||
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That was one of the best. | |
| Let's grab that. | ||
| That's the most iconic political entrance of all time. | ||
| Give us a preview of that. | ||
| Give us a preview of the debates. | ||
| And how is the RNC going to work to secure the election for victory in November? | ||
| Well, let's start with the convention. | ||
| This is the first convention that will have been held in eight years, because remember, we didn't have them in 2020 because of COVID. | ||
| And I think what you're going to hear at the Republican convention is a true contrast. | ||
| We have the ability now to look at two presidents and their presidencies and America and the world under their leadership. | ||
| And so it is so easy to compare and contrast these two men. | ||
| And man, is it night and day when you look at Donald Trump? | ||
| And the years he was in the White House and the accomplishments he had and how life was really working for people in this country. | ||
| We had a secure border. | ||
| People could afford to keep a savings, to start going on vacations again. | ||
| $1.87 was the average price of gas back in the day when Donald Trump was president. | ||
| And you look at the fact that he had peace agreements in the Middle East and not wars in the Middle East. | ||
| These are all the things we're going to talk about. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| That's so epic. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| That's the greatest of all time. | ||
| I'm gonna agree with you on that. | ||
| You're in charge of the RNC, Laura! | ||
| Do it again! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Let's do it again. | |
| So we're talking about that at this convention. | ||
| Clearly, I don't know what the hell the Democrats are going to roll out. | ||
| If it's even Joe Biden, that still is a mystery to a lot of people. | ||
| Because to your point, they have to get Joe Biden through a June 27th debate with Donald Trump. | ||
| The debate they thought Donald Trump would say, hold on, you have all these conditions and all these accommodations for Joe Biden. | ||
| Let's talk that through. | ||
| And he said, nope, I'll see you there if you can find the podium, Joe. | ||
| I'll be there. | ||
| So we're going to see these two men on a stage. | ||
| And Joe Biden has to defend all the horrific decisions he has made that has led America into this awful place we found ourselves in right now. | ||
| And, Benny, he's got to just make it through. | ||
| I think the bar is so low for this guy. | ||
| If he can even stay up on stage with Donald Trump, he's going to get a round of applause from the mainstream media. | ||
| And then you asked about securing our elections. | ||
| And quite frankly... | ||
| Nothing is more important. | ||
| It is the highest and best use of our time at the RNC, and that is the number one focus we have. | ||
| If you come to this building, I'm here right now at the RNC headquarters in D.C., the bulk of the employees in this building are focused solely on election integrity. | ||
| We are working overtime to ensure that we have 100,000 volunteers on our election integrity team by November 5th. | ||
| The chairman, Mike Watley, and I have pledged that. | ||
| We are training people all across this country. | ||
| ProtecttheVote.com. | ||
| If anyone wants to come join our team, we want attorneys in every major polling location so they can strike at a moment's notice if they notice anything that is at all nefarious or looks... | ||
| Strange to them as people are going out to vote, starting the first day of early voting, going all the way up until Election Day. | ||
| We can leave nothing to chance. | ||
| We never, Benny, can repeat 2020 ever again. | ||
| And we are ensuring that this year it starts at the RNC. | ||
| Things are going to be different. | ||
| People are going to notice. | ||
| And we are finally going to have faith in our electoral process again. | ||
| You just get chills listening to somebody from the RNC with your position talking like that. | ||
| It's what we've begged for. | ||
| For so long, we've begged for a meeting with Scott Pressler and just like to have somebody take this stuff seriously instead of talking about DEI or talking about like white guilt or something. | ||
| It's so wonderful. | ||
| Thank you, Laura. | ||
| So, okay, speaking of guilt, what happens if they find Donald Trump guilty here? | ||
| Some of the biggest legal handicappers are saying a hung jury is really likely right now, given the fact that they've been in deliberations for 11 hours and asking a lot of questions. | ||
| But do you have contingency plans? | ||
| Like, what are they? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, listen, if your candidate is not able to travel and campaign, which, let's face it, that's been part of the goal of this entire trial, to keep Donald Trump off the campaign trail, obviously he's been able to do miraculous things like go to bodegas in Harlem and get a huge response, hold a rally in the Bronx, and attract 25,000 people, which you know drove the Democrats absolutely bananas, and we love to see it. | ||
| But yes, we do have to have a plan in place, and if he... | ||
| He is unable to travel for whatever reason. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| Look at that rally. | ||
| I love to see that. | ||
| We're going to do whatever we can. | ||
| We'll do things virtually with him for the time being. | ||
| The crazy thing whenever you look at Donald Trump is political conventional wisdom does not apply to Donald Trump in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| So they're going to try and throw everything at him. | ||
| They already have. | ||
| And every single time he comes out on top, every single time he turns lemons into lemonade, and we're going to make sure that the same thing happens. | ||
| Can you give us, because there's so few people who've been inside of the court with Donald Trump, can you give us just a very quick breakdown of what life is like in there? | ||
| What did you see when you looked at the jury? | ||
| I mean, you've looked at the jury, right? | ||
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| So what did you see? | ||
| Yeah, you tried it. | ||
| I mean, I looked at the jurors for most of the time that I was sitting in that courtroom, and you really try to gather, you know, what is going on there? | ||
| Could there be one of these people or a couple of these people who see through this charade, who understand what is going on? | ||
| And the thing that I kept going back to is the fact that, look, I was a New Yorker for 16 years. | ||
| Eric and I lived in New York City. | ||
| And the one thing I know about New Yorkers is they don't like to get played, Benny. | ||
| And if even one of these people in there starts to realize that this was never a trial about justice or a trial about prosecuting an actual crime, you got plenty of criminals roaming the streets of New York that Alvin Bragg could have actually gone after. | ||
| But why this? | ||
| Why did you have to take a misdemeanor and make it a felony? | ||
| Why all the confusion? | ||
| And if they start to realize that, if even one of those people thinks about that and thinks about the implications of this trial and what it could do to the future of this country, I think they're going to think again. | ||
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| It's hard to tell with a jury, of course, but that courtroom, I've heard a lot of people talk about it. | ||
| It's depressing. | ||
| It's run down. | ||
| It really is analogous to the entire city of New York at this point, just depressed and depressing. | ||
| There is one thing. | ||
| That my eye was continuing to be drawn to. | ||
| And it is still there, if you can believe it, in the liberal bastion of New York City, downtown Manhattan, above the judge are the words, in God we trust. | ||
| And I kept looking at that the whole time I sat there and I said, At this point, we do have to just kind of put our trust in him, right? | ||
| You have to pray that these jurors actually look at the facts or the lack thereof in this case, and they rule based on a crime or no crime and not on anything else, not on whether they like Donald Trump, not on whether they want to vote for him, but based on the facts and the evidence presented in this case. | ||
| And if they do that, if even one of those people does that, then we do get a hung jury, and I think it is a victorious day for America. | ||
| Oh, what a great point that you just made. | ||
| Yes, in God we trust, and that we serve a God of miracles, and maybe that's what it would take for Donald Trump to walk away without any conviction in New York, but here we are. | ||
| And that's so important to remember that and to, you know, to honestly remember that God is in control. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Really quickly, something that big news story that I know you are directly a part of. | ||
| And so I just want to give you a second to sound off on it because it's terrible. | ||
| I've never seen more terrified headlines of you destroying Joe Biden fundraising this last month. | ||
| You just blew him out of the water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| $25 million, I think? | ||
| $25 million. | ||
| And, Benny, the really remarkable part of that is our average donation is $29. | ||
| So even here in a time when people literally are barely able to make ends meet financially, they are donating to Donald Trump and his campaign because people in this country understand, I think, what is at stake right now. | ||
| It is palpable across this country. | ||
| If Joe Biden and the Democrats are successful, if these communist tactics and techniques they've employed to stop the frontrunner of Donald Trump from becoming president of the United States again, if those are successful... | ||
| Then what kind of country is this going to be on the other side? | ||
| You cannot sustain four more years of Joe Biden in that White House. | ||
| God bless us all. | ||
| And so people are coming out and they're donating. | ||
| We are so grateful. | ||
| DonaldJTrump.com, if anyone wants to donate. | ||
| We're so honored and we're so grateful. | ||
| But I think it speaks volumes about where the American people are right now. | ||
| They understand the task at hand. | ||
| They understand the need to win. | ||
| And they're coming out and they're donating to Donald Trump. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, every time you have Lord Trump on, it's a showstopper. | ||
| She speaks in the middle of New York City and all traffic stops. | ||
| And it's just this remarkable moment. | ||
| You and Eric and Don and the defense. | ||
| It's been galvanizing. | ||
| It's been unifying. | ||
| And I think the backfire is officially here. | ||
| And so we just thank you. | ||
| Many more boat parades. | ||
| We have, obviously, your X account up right now. | ||
| 1.6 million. | ||
| People can't be wrong. | ||
| Go follow Laura Trump. | ||
| Obviously, duh. | ||
| And I hope to see you at a Trump boat parade sometime. | ||
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| Did you take that photo? | ||
| Trump boat parade. | ||
| I did not take that photo. | ||
| But actually, I think my mom sent me that photo of those people, ironically. | ||
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| She has a good eye. | ||
| Shout out to mom. | ||
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| Final parting note, we know you're in charge of the RNC convention. | ||
| Please make the lights happen with Donald Trump walking in with the giant lights. | ||
| It's all about the lights now. | ||
| I'm going to go work on it right now, Benny. | ||
| Thank you to the great Laura Trump. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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We are rolling, baby. | |
| Rocking and rolling. | ||
| So excited, so honored to have Laura Trump join the program. | ||
| It has been a... | ||
| Rip-roaring afternoon and day. | ||
| As we always tell you, we are here because we have made a promise to you that we are going to be there to report the breaking news, specifically out of this trial, for you. | ||
| And we just don't know when the jury is going to return. | ||
| We do have, however, some news out of the trial. | ||
| ALX, you send this during the break, but there were some jury instructions from the courtroom. | ||
| Jonathan Turley reporting from Fox News. | ||
| Back in the courtroom, all is quiet. | ||
| The judge indicated that he would like to go till 6 o 'clock tonight, which would leave roughly 3 hours and 20 minutes. | ||
| This was sent about an hour ago. | ||
| The requested selections, the requested sections of the instructions did not materially advance any understanding of the conflicts, though one clearly led to the request for a readback So, Jonathan Turley saying they may go to six today. | ||
| They, the jury continues to ask questions. | ||
| There doesn't seem to be any further updates, but this is our, this is our responsibility and role here is to continue, continue to keep you updated. | ||
| What is happening inside of this trial? | ||
| It's been very, very quiet. | ||
| Is that good news for Donald Trump? | ||
| What kind of a country are we going to leave to our children if the judicial system could just simply, if there are forces in this nation that could just lock you in prison because they don't like you, because they don't like the color of your skin, because the color of your skin is too orange, right? | ||
| And the orange man bad. | ||
| Or because they don't like your politics. | ||
| Is it a crime to run for president? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to enumerate that with our next guest, Congressman Tim Burchett, who will be joining us shortly. | ||
| But first, ladies and gentlemen, I think it's important to recognize that there have been so many strong voices. | ||
| It does seem, I guess, kind of isolating, and we've been regularly on. | ||
| Regularly on kind of a tirade against leaders like Mitch McConnell and some of the weaklings in the Senate. | ||
| John Thune and John Cornyn, they want to be Senate leader, but they haven't said anything about Donald Trump. | ||
| They haven't gone out to support Donald Trump. | ||
| Nikki Haley hasn't gone to the trial to support Donald Trump. | ||
| You know, the presidential candidates haven't gone there. | ||
| And Tim Scott hasn't gone there. | ||
| I guess I'm not saying that they're bad people, but I am saying that you should call them out. | ||
| Every Republican? | ||
| Every single Republican that is in this party should be standing there at the court, surrounding the court, and saying with a unified voice, like, this is not America. | ||
| Maybe not even just Republicans. | ||
| Like, everyone. | ||
| How could you, like, reverse this? | ||
| I don't actually think I want a country where this is something that's going to happen to every person that runs for president, even if it's people that I hate. | ||
| I think the old system where we all get to vote together and if you're a piece of garbage like Hillary Clinton, you just lose. | ||
| I think that's a lot better than people trying to rig the system. | ||
| Maybe it's always been rigged. | ||
| I'm not exactly certain. | ||
| But I have been uplifted by the number of voices that have shown up for the president in front of the court. | ||
| One of them is Vivek. | ||
| Who's obviously a dear friend of this program and joined us yesterday. | ||
| His comments in front of the court kind of ring really true at this point. | ||
| And a good emblematic example of a new generation of people that aren't going to allow this to just, aren't going to roll over and just allow this kind of stuff to happen in this nation, aren't going to allow this nation to go the way of Stalinism. | ||
| Here's Vivek's comments before the court. | ||
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The whole case that Alvin Bragg has brought depends on one premise for them to charge this as a felony. | |
| Is that Donald Trump somehow should have used campaign funds to make an allegedly personal payment. | ||
| Yet if he had done that, their case against him would be even stronger. | ||
| This is garbage. | ||
| That is the best proof that you have that if they're going to get him going or get him coming, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. | ||
| This is a sham. | ||
| This is not the United States of America. | ||
| This is some third-rate banana republic. | ||
| If this were happening in another country, we would be laughing at them as a sham democracy. | ||
| I am ashamed as an American citizen to sit here in a courtroom watching the former leader of the free world, and let's be honest, likely next leader of the free world, sitting with the indignity in this dingy third-rate courtroom with fourth-rate prosecutors and a fifth-rate lawyer on the stand as a witness. | ||
| who actually is violating attorney-client privilege left and right. | ||
| Nobody's even talking about that. | ||
| So this is a shame, shame on the spirit in our country's history. | ||
| but we will get through it and be stronger because you know who ultimately actually cast the vote on this case? | ||
| It's not just the jurors in that jury box. | ||
| It's every one of you at home. | ||
| It's every American who votes this November to say no to the weaponization of justice. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Pick that dude for vice president. | ||
| Come on! | ||
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| Come on. | ||
| You've got to do it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
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| You know we're big fans of Evake on the program. | ||
| Maybe there's a bunch of reports out. | ||
| Maybe he will. | ||
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Maybe he won't. | |
| Nobody knows. | ||
| Donald Trump says he's going to pick at the convention. | ||
| And you just heard from us live, Lord Trump's going to bring back the giant lights behind Donald Trump. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, one of the other... | ||
| Young rock stars in the party. | ||
| Just to give you a little extra uplifting. | ||
| Because it's hard to keep track and to really stay locked in and connected in these times. | ||
| Byron Donald. | ||
| Byron Donald's in front of the courthouse. | ||
| Again, it feels like maybe years ago. | ||
| This was just a week ago. | ||
| Byron Donald's standing strong. | ||
| And dude's got a future. | ||
| I live in Florida. | ||
| He's a member of Congress from Florida. | ||
| A lot of rumblings about Byron Donald's maybe running for governor. | ||
| A lot of people wanted Trump to pick him for vice president. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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| Here's Byron Donald's. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Where's the crime? | ||
| There is no crime. | ||
| The only crime that's happening here is this Democrat judge and the Democrat Party prosecuting their political rival right in the middle of a presidential election. | ||
| The crime here is that the issues facing our nation are not being addressed by the Democrats, but they want to go after Donald Trump. | ||
| And there's nothing wrong. | ||
| There's nothing that has been wrong here. | ||
| Nothing that has been done poorly by President Trump. | ||
| The only thing that's being done wrong is by this judge. | ||
| His daughter's making money? | ||
| Raising money for Democrats? | ||
| And all of the fundraising emails and all the fundraising things are about this trial that his daughter is using? | ||
| He won't recuse himself? | ||
| This is a travesty of justice. | ||
| This is a misuse of the justice system. | ||
| And look around New York. | ||
| New York's got plenty of issues. | ||
| I'm from Brooklyn, New York. | ||
| You have all of NYPD's finest down here because of this travesty going on in that courtroom. | ||
| Meanwhile, the citizens of New York are less safe and the district attorney in New York is not prosecuting real crime. | ||
| He's a Soros-backed DA going after his chief political rival in Donald Trump. | ||
| Byron Dolls, baby. | ||
| Rock and roll. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| What happens next? | ||
| What happens when the Viveks and the Byrons of the world come into political prominence? | ||
| What happens? | ||
| I mean, I guess we're relatively young on this show as well. | ||
| And we got a crew of people that are aligned with us. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, a bunch of, like, really smart, bright James O 'Keefe. | ||
| And then it's like an entire generation. | ||
| Of people who grew up listening to Joe Rogan, who are massive fans of Elon Musk, who is seeing the entire universe and the adverse reaction to this woke moment. | ||
| It's galvanizing and creating a really interesting life force. | ||
| Uh, of people for a freedom movement, right? | ||
| It's like, it's like a freedom movement. | ||
| And it's not, it's, if you're a simp for Joe Biden, like there's never been, there's never been anything more lame than used to be a Joe Biden supporter. | ||
| Could you imagine being a Joe Biden supporter? | ||
| Like, could you imagine like telling somebody that, like, like in public, like proudly? | ||
| No, it's not possible. | ||
| Whisper it underneath your breath, shamefully, right? | ||
| But you have some type of mental illness or something, but you're like, nobody's. | ||
| Proudly shouting that they're voting for Joe Biden. | ||
| That's why Joe Biden travels through these cities, these Democrat cities. | ||
| There's not a single person with a single sign waiting for him. | ||
| No one. | ||
| No one shows up. | ||
| They've failed. | ||
| Meanwhile, it's never been cooler to be on our side. | ||
| It's never been cooler to be part of the freedom movement. | ||
| It's so hardcore. | ||
| It's so awesome. | ||
| You have the Tuckers of the world, and you have the Elon Musks, the Joe Rogans, the Jimmy Doors. | ||
| Like a bunch of comics that are now sort of swinging this direction or always were this direction, just in favor of free speech, and on and on. | ||
| And so it's galvanizing. | ||
| It's really neat to see. | ||
| It's something that we've seen in people who presumably never thought they would want to run for politics, like a man who went to the Ivy Leagues and is a deeply accomplished author and wrote an American bestseller. | ||
| Somebody who presumably didn't ever want to be in politics, but found himself running for office, J.D. Vance. | ||
| He also finds himself on the shortlist for Donald Trump's vice presidency. | ||
| He stood out front of the court and rang like a bell, J.D. Vance. | ||
| ...about what I've witnessed so far in my couple hours in there. | ||
| First of all, Michael Cohen is the prosecution's star witness. | ||
| This guy is a convicted felon who admitted in his testimony that he secretly recorded his former employer, that he only did it once, allegedly, and that this was supposed to help Donald Trump. | ||
| Does any reasonable, sensible person believe anything that Michael Cohen says? | ||
| I don't think that they should, and I actually think that his testimony is going to hurt with any reasonable juror. | ||
| And hopefully we have a few of those. | ||
| I want to say two other things here very quickly. | ||
| Number one, the thing that the president is prevented from saying, which is a disgrace, is that every single person involved in this prosecution is practically a Democratic political operative. | ||
| The judge inside, his daughter, is making millions of dollars running against Donald Trump, raising money for Donald Trump's political opponents. | ||
| left to become a local prosecutor to go after Donald Trump. | ||
| And of course, there's Alvin Bragg, a Soros-funded prosecutor who promised to go after Donald Trump and now is doing exactly that. | ||
| So? | ||
| Strong? | ||
| Such a good phalanx of people out defending you? | ||
| What does Joe Biden have? | ||
| Robert De Niro? | ||
| What does Joe Biden have? | ||
| Tell me that you probably hate this guy, but it's, you know, my producers are in my ear, you know, sort of locking in this group of people who supported Trump and saying, you should play it, Speaker Mike Johnson. | ||
| And you're going to be frustrated with the Speaker. | ||
| I'm deeply frustrated with Speaker Mike Johnson. | ||
| Yet, Speaker Mike Johnson stood behind Donald Trump, literally, figuratively as well. | ||
| And then made very strong remarks outside of the courthouse. | ||
| Before it was fashionable to, he was actually one of the first people. | ||
| I'm not here to tell you that you need to support him, but it's worth showing you the giant chasm that is the conservative movement of which Mike Johnson seems to have found himself in the far left wing of. | ||
| Nonetheless, he's standing with Trump. | ||
| I think that's a commendable thing, and it's worth remembering. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| And I think everybody in the country can see that for what it is. | ||
| I'm an attorney. | ||
| I'm a former litigator myself. | ||
| I am disgusted by what is happening here, what is being done here to our entire system of justice overall. | ||
| The people are losing faith right now in this country, in our institutions. | ||
| They're losing faith in our system of justice. | ||
| And the reason for that is because they see it being abused as it is being done here in New York. | ||
| The facts here are very important. | ||
| Facts are always important in a trial, or at least they're supposed to be. | ||
| The president's actions in this matter were previously reviewed and no charges were filed. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because there's no crime here. | ||
| Now, eight years later, suddenly they've resurrected this thing. | ||
| They brought it back. | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| Well, just apply common sense. | ||
| Everyone can see. | ||
| It's painfully obvious they were now six months out from an election day. | ||
| And that's the reason. | ||
| That's the reason. | ||
| They're doing this to try and win an election. | ||
| What are we going to say about it? | ||
| So, again, very positive. | ||
| Both branches. | ||
| You have senators there, members of Congress. | ||
| You have different wings of the party, right, so to speak. | ||
| Speaker Mike Johnson in the House. | ||
| And what's the opposite of Speaker Mike Johnson? | ||
| Anna Paulina Luna, for sure. | ||
| You know Congresswoman Paulina Luna, friend of the show, Literal flamethrower. | ||
| If you can unite both of these sides of the party in defense of Trump, then you got a good things going. | ||
| Here's Congresswoman Luna. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| I also want to point out that they are telling people that they can't have cameras in the courtroom, but if they had nothing to hide, and if they're truly being honest about this, why is it that you guys can't be in the courtroom and see exactly what we're seeing? | ||
| Just because we're members of Congress does not mean we have authority more than you guys to know exactly what's happening in that courtroom. | ||
| So just an update. | ||
| The president is doing well. | ||
| He's in good spirits. | ||
| We are here today because we know that this is nonsense and should not be happening in the United States of America. | ||
| Furthermore, to Cohen, who admitted to lying to members of Congress, that's contempt of Congress, just so that you are tracking. | ||
| And I want to follow it up by saying this. | ||
| It is by no coincidence that you have Goldman, a member of House Oversight who's a Democrat, prepared Cohen for his testimony, is also retained by the judge's daughter as a client. | ||
| Does that seem like it? | ||
| It's not shim to you. | ||
| It is corrupt lawfare. | ||
| It's the Biden prosecutions. | ||
| And Biden, you're going to lose this election cycle. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| We love our great congresswoman down here. | ||
| You wonder why we can do the show with such piss and vinegar, right? | ||
| With such gunpowder in our gut? | ||
| It's because we have good leadership down here. | ||
| We have strong leadership. | ||
| It's very hard to have that kind of fire and that kind of chip on your shoulder. | ||
| In Washington, D.C., that just grinds all the meat into sausage, right? | ||
| It's just like the sludge that is D.C. I've lived there for 15 years, so I understand this. | ||
| You need to have districts like Paulina Luna's down here in Florida that support and keep her sharp and strong. | ||
| And you need to have people like Stephen Miller in Washington, D.C., who stand at your back and who are prepared to defend Donald Trump. | ||
| And this is what Stephen Miller did for Donald Trump in his first term. | ||
| Stephen Miller, the architect. | ||
| And I call him the architect because Donald Trump has sort of a vision. | ||
| You need somebody to build that cathedral, right? | ||
| And Stephen Miller, who is the advisor, senior advisor to President Trump, and now running America First Legal, joins the program now. | ||
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| you you you you To talk about the architecture, to talk about the cathedral that could be built, the beautiful stained glass that could potentially be put together for a second Trump term. | ||
| And that's, I think, what people are pining for. | ||
| It's what I think the Democrats might get in spite of themselves as we see the poll numbers swing so wildly in favor of the president, even after what might be a conviction here in the court case. | ||
| So I guess, first thing, Stephen, landscape here. | ||
| And thank you for joining the program. | ||
| Landscape. | ||
| If they put Donald Trump in prison, which the judge might do. | ||
| He's clearly promised his daughter she'll get that for her birthday. | ||
| Will that help or hurt Donald Trump? | ||
| I don't know what the judge will do in terms of imposing a sentence before or after the election. | ||
| What we do know is that it is their full and complete intention to lock Donald Trump up for life. | ||
| I want to be very clear with people. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| This is a live fire exercise. | ||
| The left wants Donald Trump behind bars for the rest of his life to stop him from stopping them. | ||
| So this isn't, this is, yes, this is election rigging in real time. | ||
| The greatest election interference in history. | ||
| Do not underestimate how much the radical Marxist communist left wants to send a message. | ||
| And that message is this. | ||
| If you choose a leader from among you to stand up to us, we will do everything in our power to destroy that leader. | ||
| That's the message they're sending. | ||
| We can't be stopped. | ||
| We can't be beaten. | ||
| We can't be defeated. | ||
| And if you choose a man among you to fight us, we will break every rule and every law to imprison that man. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| Understand what's happening in New York City. | ||
| If you think for one second, and I don't think anyone does anymore, But if someone out there thinks or pretends to imagine this has anything to do with campaign finance law, then you are dumber than a piece of scrap metal, if you actually believe that. | ||
| If you think this has anything to do with a retainer agreement with Michael Cohen, then you are dumber than a piece of driftwood. | ||
| This is and has only ever been about the radical left trying to rig an election for Joe Biden. | ||
| And trying to inflict maximum punishment on the man that they see as their most powerful and effective opponent. | ||
| We don't know what this jury is going to do. | ||
| We do know, of course, that Judge Mershon has been rigging this trial from the beginning. | ||
| I'm sure you spent a lot of time analyzing this with your audience about how he said that you don't even need to agree on what the crime is. | ||
| If you want to throw him in jail, just throw him in jail. | ||
| If you were to reduce the judge's instructions... | ||
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| If you don't like Donald Trump, leftist jurors, throw the man in jail. | ||
| You don't need to even agree on the reason. | ||
| That's the fundamental jury instruction. | ||
| Communists enjoy being communists. | ||
| Please internalize this. | ||
| They like it. | ||
| They like being arbitrary. | ||
| They like wielding power. | ||
| They like hurting their enemies. | ||
| They don't have any of the hang-ups the right has about using power. | ||
| If you had a conservative judge and a conservative jury sitting in judgment over a prominent left-wing anything, anybody, let alone a presidential candidate, they would make it a point of pride to prove to the editorial board of the New York Times how fair they were. | ||
| They would make it a point of pride to wake up in the morning and see a New York Times editorial board saying, we're so proud of how this... | ||
| Right-wing judge and jury has risen to the occasion here. | ||
| That's the mindset difference. | ||
| Last time I was here, you asked me how you win. | ||
| You only win when the good guys are as tough as the bad guys. | ||
| Otherwise, you're doomed. | ||
| So at this moment in history, let's just be very clear about what's happening. | ||
| This is about the left's commitment to the eradication of an ideology that opposes them. | ||
| In other words, they want to make it so that that ideology cannot be part of the American political system through surveillance, through spying, through financial debanking and deplatforming, and yes, through jail and imprisonment, all of the tactical authoritarian moves that you're familiar with. | ||
| So that, yes, you can theoretically have followers and you can have a movement, but they want to make it impossible for that movement to govern. | ||
| By using all of these powers to stop them. | ||
| But the optimistic point at the end of all of this, and what you open with is, the public is seeing through it. | ||
| They're seeing through it. | ||
| God bless the American public. | ||
| They're not falling for it. | ||
| They are seeing through the web of lies and deceit and hatred and oppression and repression. | ||
| And they're seeing through it. | ||
| But the only way that turns to actual victory over the left To all your viewers and listeners out here today, you have to want to win. | ||
| You have to want to beat the left as badly as Alvin Bragg wants to pummel you, as badly as Judge Mershon wants to completely castrate the movement. | ||
| That's how badly you want to have to win. | ||
| Are you organizing? | ||
| Are you engaging? | ||
| Are you involved at every level of... | ||
| Your community, your city, your town. | ||
| Are you doing everything a person would do whose civilization is on the line to engage in the political process? | ||
| And if you're not, then if you're not, then it doesn't mean that those polls are going to translate into the outcome that you want. | ||
| You have to be engaged. | ||
| That's the point I want to get across to your audience today. | ||
| So if you talk about a backfire here, I think what they fundamentally misunderstand is the nature of the American people. | ||
| I was raised in the 80s. | ||
| I think you were raised in the 80s. | ||
| I was raised as a young man in the 80s. | ||
| Kick dirt in your face. | ||
| Play outside. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Get hit with sticks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Get burned with cigarettes. | ||
| You get up. | ||
| You keep going. | ||
| You get hit in the face with a baseball. | ||
| That's just how it goes. | ||
| That's patriotic American. | ||
| And we grew up good. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And this is how generations of Americans have grown up. | ||
| If there's a sign that says, don't walk on the grass, you, like, really want to go on that grass. | ||
| And not only that, set up a baseball field on that grass. | ||
| And this is the American nature, right? | ||
| This is manifest destiny. | ||
| And going back to, like, the deeper psychology of who we are and what we are as a people, when there's an elitist group that says, you're not allowed to vote for Trump. | ||
| I think that that really hits something in our DNA and makes people visceral. | ||
| And it makes people angry. | ||
| We're not a conquered people yet. | ||
| I'm not allowed? | ||
| Yeah, I'm not. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| And I think that at its core is we're still Americans. | ||
| And it's just such a wonderful thing. | ||
| You said, thank God. | ||
| I mean, I agree. | ||
| That means we're still Americans. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| Is that we're not a submitted people yet. | ||
| That was the fundamental miscalculation. | ||
| And we still have to do the work. | ||
| But the fundamental miscalculation was thinking that the American people were ready to be conquered. | ||
| That if authoritarian tyrants rose up in our midst, at DOJ, at the White House, at the prosecutor's office, and they said we are going to systematically, legally, kneecap, handicap, legally destroy the political opposition. | ||
| The people would say, power has spoken and we will yield. | ||
| But to your point, Americans grew up from the time they left the womb being taught, you know, you can kick dirt in my eye, you can throw sand in my face, you know, and I'll carry on with dignity and I'll hold my head high. | ||
| But eventually, if you keep pushing and you keep punching, right, that we're not going to take it anymore. | ||
| And that's what's happening here, as American voters are saying, including this new multi-ethnic coalition of black, white, and Latino voters, working class people, blue-collar people, are saying, this isn't my America. | ||
| We don't live in a fascist country. | ||
| We don't live in a tyranny. | ||
| We don't live in a country where power rules and rules absolutely. | ||
| And so that's the backfire that I think that we're seeing here, but just at the risk of being repetitive. | ||
| It's incumbent upon every citizen who's outraged at what's happening to do more than just be outraged. | ||
| Make a choice in your daily life to be part of the solution, whether it's what you're doing through your church, what you're doing through organizing people online, what you're doing in terms of fundraising, what you're doing in terms of engaging in good nonprofits, what you're doing in terms of what you're reading, what you're writing, what you're sharing. | ||
| Make a choice to impact the system. | ||
| Towards justice. | ||
| Don't just be upset. | ||
| You have to translate that into action. | ||
| So previously, earlier on in our first hour, because we've been live, Stephen, now for five hours. | ||
| You're holding up very well, Benny. | ||
| We intend on, well, there's been some Chick-fil-A deliveries to the studio. | ||
| So Mike Davis talked about a J.D. Vance filing at the DOJ for criminal conspiracy. | ||
| And it's quite thorough. | ||
| And he says that this is a framework, I assume that Mike has been working with J.D. Vance, presumably on this, but there is a really secured framework put forward for what a Trump DOJ could do to prosecute. | ||
| The reason I ask this is obviously we need to win first, and that's what we've been discussing. | ||
| But there must be a plan. | ||
| I think that perhaps Donald Trump may have suffered from not having a plan on day one. | ||
| Presumably in 2016, because it was such a shocking election victory. | ||
| But moving to 2025, you say that there needs to be punishments, that there needs to be somebody who's willing to hit back and win as much as the left wants to win and conquer, and that that is the only way that you actually stop these people. | ||
| That's the way that you stop tyranny. | ||
| You say no more. | ||
| Do you agree that that might be the route to take? | ||
| What would be your prescription to Donald Trump for not how to get revenge, but for how to, like, clear the field of Marxists who wish to destroy this place? | ||
| Yeah, so there's a lot to unpack there. | ||
| Let me try it this way. | ||
| So first of all, in 2017, when Donald Trump took office, it's important to understand, he was at the receiving end of a rolling soft coup. | ||
| So he came into office in the middle of a Russia conspiracy hoax that was designed to force him out of office at the very beginning of his administration. | ||
| And there was a large number of members in both parties who accepted that fundamental framework. | ||
| And their view was, well, you have to prove to us that you're not an agent of Russia. | ||
| That's how effective the FBI and DOJ collusion hoax was. | ||
| So he had to spend... | ||
| I'm not going to make any news today by saying this person or that person is the one that's going to be facing a specific criminal investigation. | ||
| But what I will say is that the precedent has been firmly established that they put a memer in jail for election interference. | ||
| That DOJ has a fundamental obligation and mandate to pursue criminal charges against people who are interfering in the electoral process. | ||
| They've been pursuing, of course, hoax charges against people who are completely innocent. | ||
| But the framework's all there to pursue criminal charges against individuals who are engaged in a clear subversion of the electoral process in America. | ||
| And obviously that would cover a wide breadth. | ||
| Of illicit and criminal conduct. | ||
| I think that the key point, the message that I would want to get across to the American people is that what we're talking about here fundamentally, we're talking about the CIA, the FBI, DOJ, and the intel community more broadly. | ||
| Remember, there's 16 intelligence agencies across multiple departments. | ||
| The mission set here... | ||
| is to restore democracy by making the intelligence and law enforcement community subordinate, again, to an elected chain of command and therefore subordinate to the American people. | ||
| American voters elect a president and the president sits on top of the intelligence and law enforcement hierarchy by the clear language of the Constitution. | ||
| The founders would have been horrified at exchanging a constitutional parliamentary monarchy We're ruled by unelected spy and unelected intelligence officer. | ||
| So it's about restoring democracy. | ||
| So when you talk about defeating the deep state and demolishing the deep state, it's a binary choice. | ||
| You're either ruled by a deep state or you're ruled by a democratic republic. | ||
| That's the mission set. | ||
| And you get the intel agencies back to protecting us against actual foreign adversaries, for example, like radical jihadists overseas. | ||
| And you get the intelligence community back to fighting actual crime, drug dealers, drug kingpins, foreign transnational criminal organizations, MS-13. | ||
| You turn the agencies back towards the actual enemies of safety and security in America. | ||
| Right now, of course, they've become the enforcement arms of the radical left. | ||
| The spy agencies and the law enforcement agencies have become the enforcement arms and are actively and continually engaged in interfering with democracy, both through censorship, through surveillance, and also through prosecution. | ||
| Do you believe that if Donald Trump is convicted and they're able to... | ||
| My handicap on this is that they just wish to smear him with the label convicted felon. | ||
| They may put him under house arrest and try to stop him from campaigning. | ||
| I think the backlash there would be pretty horrifying, but we'll see. | ||
| I think that's the point. | ||
| Would that have any bearing on a Trump second term? | ||
| Would that stop the president from doing anything that he wishes to do? | ||
| And what happens to these other cases, Stephen, as you run America First Legal and you've done many filings against some of these Trump prosecutions? | ||
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| What happens to these cases? | ||
| Well, very simply put, if the American people elect a new president, so in this case, Donald Trump, but it's the constitutional principle that applies regardless, by definition, the president of the United States cannot be constrained in any way of his ability to execute the office of which he was elected by a federal or state prosecution. | ||
| There's just a fundamental constitutional principle that he has to be free to travel, to move, to act, to execute the duties to which he's been elected. | ||
| Otherwise, you're making an individual prosecutor more powerful than all 300 million American citizens and their executive branch of government. | ||
| It is a fundamental, inviolable, constitutional principle. | ||
| To your point about them... | ||
| Partially wanting to get a conviction just so they can run the ad saying convicted felon. | ||
| Again, there's no doubt that's true. | ||
| That's why they're doing press conferences around the trial. | ||
| Biden's announced that he's making remarks after the verdict, which is also meant to be a very unsubtle message to the jurors themselves, too. | ||
| I mean, this whole thing is many authoritarian societies do show trials in secret, in hiding, and just announce the verdicts. | ||
| What's so especially alarming is that they are rigging This trial, and they are trying to rig our democracy in broad daylight, knowing that the corporate media will protect and shield them at every single turn. | ||
| But what we are seeing in front of our eyes, like, again, it can't be underscored enough, is a real thing that happened in the world this week that the judge, a Biden donor, in this case, told the jury, you don't even need to agree what the crime is to jail him for life. | ||
| It's an actual event that happened. | ||
| But did we have all the newspaper agencies and all of the corporate press melting down in horror and anger and outrage at this obvious version of democracy? | ||
| No. | ||
| They're reported that matter-of-factly, it's just a thing that judges do. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the most shocking jury instructions, I think, probably in the history of really Western legal canon. | ||
| But it was reported on as sort of a ho-hum thing by the leftist corporate press. | ||
| So the regime is relying on that press to shield them. | ||
| But more and more Americans are seeing through all of that. | ||
| And they're realizing this judge is acting as an agent of the Biden administration and the Biden campaign to achieve a purely political result. | ||
| And so I think for that reason, the political backlash effect of a conviction will be far greater than the forces in power have imagined. | ||
| Just to make a point on what you just said, Louisiana v. | ||
| Ramos established unanimity. | ||
| This ruling just happened in 2020 and was written by Gorsuch and had liberal justices and conservative justices saying, no, you can't just have one juror decide a man's fate forever. | ||
| You have to have unanimity. | ||
| Otherwise, you have a hung jury and that person walks free. | ||
| Like, that second. | ||
| Yeah, that was a very big, widely publicized case. | ||
| I'm afraid to imagine that Judge Mershon is familiar with it. | ||
| Yeah, so I guess, do we have a country? | ||
| The lesson in all these things is you can't stop us. | ||
| That's just your view, right? | ||
| He knows it's a technical matter that there isn't a precedent. | ||
| For appealing jury instructions. | ||
| In that phase of the trial, there's no appeals. | ||
| So he knows how is that remedied? | ||
| It's remedy on appeal post-conviction. | ||
| It's a reversible trial there, right? | ||
| So what is he doing? | ||
| He's saying, I don't give a damn. | ||
| Get me my damn conviction. | ||
| The appeals court will do what it'll do. | ||
| Months after the election, just get me my damn conviction. | ||
| He's rigging it in broad daylight. | ||
| And there's no consequences. | ||
| Where's the Bar Association? | ||
| Nowhere to be found. | ||
| No one's even implying or suggesting that he would lose his law license. | ||
| But again, all of these problems are solvable and will be solved. | ||
| To keep going back to this point is if you want to save your country as much as they want to destroy it, and you do what has to be done from an organizing and a community standpoint to achieve that. | ||
| There are things that every one of you can be doing every single day in your community to help achieve the saving of our country. | ||
| So be informed, yes, but then use that information to act constructively on a daily basis. | ||
| Because you know right now as we're having this conversation, the radical left is out there organizing and scheming and plotting in every which way they can. | ||
| And you have to be doing just as much work in defense of this country as others are doing in pursuit of its end. | ||
| Very quickly here, because few know and have advised the president as closely as you, I don't think there's a single man on earth that has more accomplishments under his belt with President Trump than you. | ||
| Can you advise, like, what is the president's, what does the next five months look like? | ||
| Through the debates with Joe Biden, through the convention, and on to the general. | ||
| Can you give us some insight? | ||
| I'll tell you what you already know from watching with your own eyes and ears. | ||
| What you know in your hearts, but that I can tell you from experience, from personal knowledge, is that Donald Trump is an unstoppable force of human nature. | ||
| What he has endured and is enduring and has been enduring on a daily basis would grind most men to a screeching halt. | ||
| It would turn stone to dust. | ||
| But he is motivated by every single obstacle in his path. | ||
| He's more determined and committed now than ever. | ||
| So this is the warrior that this moment calls for and demands. | ||
| But it's up to you, America. | ||
| It is up to you, America, to not be bystanders at this crossroads in history. | ||
| You have to be part of the solution. | ||
| Don't just sit back and wait to see what happens. | ||
| Decide. | ||
| That you and your friends and your neighbors and your coworkers and your relations, distant, near, and far, are going to be engaged each and every day until this thing, this threat, has been defeated and until America has been rescued. | ||
| It's always so inspiring to have Steven on the program. | ||
| He's one of the people who actually puts... | ||
| Hopefully not on this show, but there's a lot of people who go and talk big on TV, and they talk big, and then you get to meet them backstage, or you get to see their private lives, and it's in shambles. | ||
| I call it TV tough. | ||
| I call it TV tough. | ||
| There's a lot of TV tough people. | ||
| I'm not going to give you any names today, Benny. | ||
| There's a lot of TV tough people that you put them into an actual crisis situation, and they turn into wax paper. | ||
| This is not... | ||
| There is no Madame Tussauds statue of Stephen Miller. | ||
| He's not wax at all. | ||
| Stephen Miller is the real deal. | ||
| He really is rock ribbed. | ||
| Gunpowder has got iron in his spine. | ||
| He stood there next to Donald Trump and Xi Jinping and shook Xi Jinping's hand. | ||
| And yeah, I mean, you got even a little bow there. | ||
| So good for you. | ||
| A little head bow. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So you got to go and support his. | ||
| You must support America First Legal. | ||
| Follow Stephen. | ||
| 633,000 people, obviously, are patriots who follow him. | ||
| And make sure that you follow his instructions, most importantly, to win. | ||
| Stephen, Godspeed, sir. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Talk soon, buddy. | ||
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| What an unbelievable show. | ||
| What a deeply special moment. | ||
| To have so many people, I guess the point of doing a more than five-hour show at this point is to show you that, one, we have the energy, that we have the team, we have assembled the Avengers as a tour, and everybody has different skill sets, right? | ||
| And, you know, sometimes you just need really, sometimes you need, like, the Nick Fury, right? | ||
| You just need, like, the really smart guy who's sort of like the megamind behind it all, who can explain to you not just what's happening on the chess or checkers board, but what's happening in, like, the 12 dimensions above. | ||
| And our next guest is that man. | ||
| And we're very, very excited to welcome to the program the great Mike Benz, who is the executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online. | ||
| And former State Department cyber, but his titles don't really do him justice. | ||
| He's a man who can, quite frankly, see through into the next dimensions what's truly happening and the games that are being played. | ||
| And that's why it's an honor to have him on our program. | ||
| Mike Bens, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| you you Mike, how are you? | ||
| Hey, great, Benny. | ||
| What a show you have here. | ||
| We're rolling, baby. | ||
| We've wanted to be live for a jury decision, and so the best way to do that is just to be live. | ||
| And so everyone from Laura Trump to Mike Davis to Stephen Miller's been on the program, but you've never been on the program. | ||
| I've wanted to sit down and do like a two-hour-long podcast with you, but I really appreciate your time today. | ||
| Because you're somebody who sees these things very clearly. | ||
| Monica Crowley earlier, last hour, was saying that this is a direct through-line continuation of the super state deciding who the American people can and cannot vote for. | ||
| And that this is just a, she called it an assassination, a less messy assassination. | ||
| And I'm wondering if you agree with that, given the news out of the Trump trial today. | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| And also, let me say, while I was listening to you and Steven, who does such incredible work, by the way, I was listening to your marathon here, and I was thinking this is sort of like a reverse Seinfeld finale, you know, how at the end, everybody, there's a trial, and everyone they've ever wronged comes out and says something horrible about Jerry Seinfeld and, you know, what they all did to them along the way. | ||
| This is sort of like the reverse of this. | ||
| It's like Donald Trump is... | ||
| On trial in the biggest kangaroo court in Western civilizational history. | ||
| And we're all sort of doing this marathon, you know, reverse Seinfeld finale saying all the good things on your show. | ||
| But no, it is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And this is something that I think folks really need to appreciate is this is a judicial assassination. | ||
| 136 years in prison in this case alone. | ||
| 700 years in prison. | ||
| When you add up all four indictments, Donald Trump is not going to live to 800 years old. | ||
| This is an assassination. | ||
| If they did this to your grandmother, you'd say, they killed my grandmother. | ||
| This is what they're doing. | ||
| And the fact is, in a social media era, with the response to the JFK assassination of a huge portion of the U.S. population becoming disenchanted. | ||
| I mean, a lot of that was the grounds for what would come to be the Church Committee hearings and the Christopher Pyle revelations. | ||
| We didn't even have an oversight mechanism for the CIA, for example, at the time when many people were speculating that the CIA may have offed JFK. | ||
| It was those conspiracy theories about the death that really spawned. | ||
| So much of the oversight apparatus that we now live under, the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Intelligence Committee. | ||
| And we know their obsession with trying to deflect heat from so-called conspiracy theories around everything from COVID to the 2020 election. | ||
| And I think if Trump were to go down in some plane crash, a la what just happened to the president of Iran, I think if that were to happen to Donald Trump, I think that might be something unrecoverable from in terms of bringing this country back into a collected box. | ||
| But if it's done in an above-board way, so to speak, with our own institutions rubber stamping it, they think that they can just kind of call it rule of law. | ||
| Now, the thing that I don't think they're anticipating is that... | ||
| What they're now putting on the table for this bet is the entire legitimacy of our rule of law. | ||
| And you're going to enter a situation where, you know, obviously not calling for anyone to take any action whatsoever, but the trust in the system totally breaks. | ||
| This is something that our own military and CIA and statecraft institutions talk about constantly in a counterinsurgency context. | ||
| For example, in Afghanistan. | ||
| We just lost to the Taliban just a few short years ago after 20 years of failed counterinsurgency work, where the issue was is we actually destroyed Afghanistan. | ||
| We did not make life better for Afghanis when we went in and bombed it back into the Stone Age and then set up a narco-warlord in the form of Hamid Karzai and his heroin. | ||
| Mafioso brother to basically turn the entire country into a narco state. | ||
| The people who lived there were not just, you know, not just had nothing. | ||
| They were unhappy with having nothing. | ||
| And they knew who made them have nothing. | ||
| And so, you know, it wasn't like a hot insurgency. | ||
| A lot of it is people just, they stop obeying in every little way possible because they hate you. | ||
| And they hate you so much that... | ||
| Little things. | ||
| And then one by one, more and more people just hate you. | ||
| And then people even inside the system, people inside the courts, people inside the... | ||
| They just start to hate the whole thing because what you've done is you've corrupted the bone cells. | ||
| You've corrupted the soft tissue in the bones. | ||
| The whole thing is rotted from the inside. | ||
| And this is something I've never had to deal with before as an American. | ||
| And I think others are sort of having this kind of what even is our country. | ||
| I remember giving a presentation on censorship about four years ago where I was trying to describe how internet censorship was the number one threat to Western civilization and it's sort of the master issue because every other issue depends on freedom of speech. | ||
| And I was stopped at the end of this very, very long presentation and the person's response was, well, it's actually probably number two. | ||
| Number one is actually probably the Justice Department. | ||
| This was years before. | ||
| You know, our current predicament. | ||
| And at the time, I thought, oh, this person just doesn't quite get it yet. | ||
| But upon further reflection on this, there's no other institution in the American government who's legally allowed to kill you. | ||
| You can't just, the Department of Agriculture can't throw you, you know, kill you. | ||
| I mean, it's what it is, a thousand years in prison. | ||
| That's death. | ||
| The Department of Labor can't do that to you. | ||
| HUD can't do that to you. | ||
| The military can't just arrest you. | ||
| Our DHS can't even do that. | ||
| And even the FBI is just the investigative arm of the Justice Department. | ||
| The Justice Department is the only institution in this country with the legal ability to kill you or destroy you or bankrupt you. | ||
| All of that has to be done through that one little, it's like the Strait of Gibraltar. | ||
| It's this one tiny little strait that opens up the entire mouth of it all. | ||
| The bedrock of our entire system is that that justice is going to be blind. | ||
| And when it's so barren and broken as it currently is, you look up into the guts of the whole system and you think, well, you know what? | ||
| I just hate this place now. | ||
| And that is what causes things to break down. | ||
| And I think by anting it up like this, America is entering this new era. | ||
| And I don't know that they've appreciated yet what they've brought. | ||
| Because you have to have people that actually believe the NFL games aren't rigged to watch them, right? | ||
| You're not going to have stadiums if they assume that the game's outcome has already been decided, right? | ||
| And the refs are on one side. | ||
| And I guess it's just one analogy, but there's going to be zero anticipation for that. | ||
| There's going to be zero live audience if you pre-rig the game. | ||
| And if you're pretty upfront with that. | ||
| You know, Roger Goodell's out there bragging about rigging the game against, I don't know, the Patriots, right? | ||
| Like, nobody's going to watch. | ||
| People are going to be angry, actually. | ||
| And they're going to say, F the NFL. | ||
| They're going to say, F this institution, right, that has, you know, taken the good credit and faith of the fans, the American populace, and are now weaponizing it for their own gain. | ||
| And I'm sure Robert Goodell could make a lot of money and maybe just hates the Patriots or Tom Brady. | ||
| That's wrong, right? | ||
| And you still need fans. | ||
| You still need people that believe in the system. | ||
| Otherwise, your league's going to go bankrupt in a season. | ||
| And I don't think they understand that. | ||
| That's what's happening here. | ||
| And just to put it in context for what Stephen was talking about, you're going to tell me? | ||
| Do you understand who the American people are? | ||
| You're going to tell me who I can't vote for? | ||
| You're not going to say, like... | ||
| You're not going to say you can't vote for him because he didn't get enough signatures and doesn't have enough money or whatever. | ||
| You're telling me you can't vote for him because you don't like him? | ||
| Because you don't like his skin color because it's orange? | ||
| F you, man, actually. | ||
| You make me want to vote for him even more. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think we've exited the era in which democracy meant a will of the people. | ||
| You know, this is where I always come back to this redefinition from a consensus of individuals to a consensus of institutions. | ||
| And this is how we get to a point where we can be defending democracy in Ukraine with elections banned in Ukraine. | ||
| And, you know, this is, I think, kind of the new definition of democracy, which is basically our predicate word to be able to overthrow democracy. | ||
| It's just the consensus of institutions and the people. | ||
| Are sort of the enemies of the institutions when they want to vote to reform the institutions. | ||
| But you have this thing now, I mean, with this Justice Department so corrupt as it is, it is kind of amazing when you trace it up to the Soros realm and you look at the role of, I mean, we have played God in so many countries around the world in their justice system. | ||
| And not just the recent stuff, I mean, all the way back. | ||
| So obviously, we just saw a sort of, Maybe preview, if you will, of the current situation within the indictment of Donald Trump by Soros prosecutors with the Soros and Joe Biden tag team against the prosecutors in Ukraine. | ||
| If you recall, Joe Biden was caught on tape at a Council on Foreign Relations meeting talking about how he bragged that he shook down the Ukrainian government, basically offered them a billion-dollar bribe. | ||
| If they would simply fire their prosecutor and put in a puppet prosecutor backed by the U.S. Embassy in Kiev. | ||
| And this was a, you know, us. | ||
| Now it's just little old Ukraine, right? | ||
| And this is what we, you know, just like we overthrow foreign governments, but we don't overthrow ourselves. | ||
| You know, it's sort of like the branding of this. | ||
| Like, yeah, we're SOBs, but only to every single other country except to you. | ||
| Pinky promise. | ||
| We just saw them brag on tape about this sick economic bribery to control the internal criminal justice system of a foreign country while George Soros was leading the IMF trade deal that's being stuffed down Ukraine's throat in 2014 and leading the effort to privatize NAFTA gas, which was under investigation and with the whole Burisma tie-in. | ||
| By that same prosecutor. | ||
| So you have basically Soros on the money side and Biden on the political side. | ||
| Because remember, even then, when Biden was vice president for Obama, he was in charge of the Ukraine portfolio. | ||
| He was Mr. Ukraine. | ||
| In CFR, even the 1990s, Council for Foreign Relations, dubbed Joe Biden Mr. Foreign Policy. | ||
| And I always come back to that Joe Biden quote about how he brags how he was the biggest prostitute in Washington as a young senator. | ||
| And his nickname was also Mr. Foreign Policy. | ||
| So who was he prostituting for? | ||
| You do the math. | ||
| So you have this playbook now where we play God to rig the prosecutors in foreign countries with this exact same duo, Biden and Soros. | ||
| And what do we see in New York? | ||
| A Soros prosecutor. | ||
| You have the largest campaign contributor to the prosecutors being George Soros. | ||
| You have the Biden White House sending the number three at the Justice Department to a little old local courthouse essentially to run this. | ||
| It's the exact same tag team that we use to manage third world vassal states being used to manage the elections of the American people. | ||
| Basically, it tells you who's in charge. | ||
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| Yeah, I suppose it does. | ||
| Just since you brought up Ukraine and since you brought up the Biden meddling, it's not exactly the topic of today, but since you're live, I have to get your thoughts on this. | ||
| Last week, or maybe it was two weeks ago, the number one breaking news in our feeds was that the CIA told the DOJ that you're not allowed to go after Hunter Biden's lawyer, that he was a protected asset. | ||
| This guy named Kevin Morris. | ||
| And it led to a number of people speculating online, and I'm not sure if you were one of them or not, that, well, that makes total sense. | ||
| This family has always been an op and a cutout for the CIA. | ||
| Their business deals have been cutouts for the CIA. | ||
| There's no reason why China would give them a billion dollars. | ||
| And there's no reason why they'd get all these Ukraine. | ||
| They don't speak Ukrainian. | ||
| They don't know anything about gas. | ||
| And now the CIA, they're kind of like... | ||
| Joyfully bragging to Republican investigators that, no, we block you for intelligence purposes from investigating Hunter Biden's lawyer, a.k.a. | ||
| Sugar Daddy, who's been paying all of his bills. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Been putting massive amounts of, I mean, millions. | ||
| It's like five to seven million dollars worth of bills that this guy's paid for Hunter Biden. | ||
| And that didn't really make any sense. | ||
| We're just talking about it, and you brought up Ukraine and the Bidens. | ||
| What's that about, Mike? | ||
| Yeah, so, I mean, what this is about is the fact that the play, there's something that I refer to as the Grand Ukraine Energy Play, which is the move by NATO and Western stakeholders to re-engineer the economics of the European gas market in order to kick Russia out and install You know, | ||
| basically NATO-based energy companies and to capture that entire market, which would, in theory, bankrupt Russia and then therefore also kill Russia's military industry. | ||
| Because if you recall, just this week, we lost Chad to Russia. | ||
| We lost Nigeria to Russia in the sense that our embassies have been kicked out and the Russian-backed governments there have You know, basically boxed out the Americans. | ||
| And this is happening. | ||
| The same thing happened to us in Syria. | ||
| Obama tried to invade Syria and got rebuffed when Russia provided them the arms and the anti-aircraft missiles. | ||
| And so all around the world, you know, basically the empire has been rebuffed by Russian military supplies, which is built on the back of Russian gas. | ||
| And Russian gas is also how Russia recaptured. | ||
| The political influence over pretty much all of Central and Eastern Europe. | ||
| We thought we had Russia completely down and out in 1991 when the Cold War ended with our victory. | ||
| And then we drove Russia into the ground through shock therapy from 1991 to 1998. | ||
| We bankrupted them. | ||
| We forced them to sell off all of their wealth held for their own people. | ||
| Corporate and financial vulture firms like George Soros and Bill Browder, who literally were running the investment firms in the 1990s that were collecting fire sale at a point of a U.S. State Department gun, propping up a drunk Boris Yeltsin, actually flying in political consultants and Hollywood producers to try to stand up Boris Yeltsin the same way they're standing up Joe Biden. | ||
| Finally, at one point, he just toppled over, and then Putin comes to power. | ||
| Putin basically looks at the fact that they had one main asset to try to win back Central and Eastern Europe into a Soviet axis, and that was this gas diplomacy, because 100% of the natural gas in Europe at that point was coming from Russian pipelines. | ||
| You started to have, one by one, countries like Georgia, Moldova start to... | ||
| Start to become more sort of Russia-affiliated as they became wealthier by the import of this Russian gas. | ||
| So the U.S. tried to drive a wedge by this energy diversification program. | ||
| And that led up to 2014 with the CIA and State Department-backed coup when we literally overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine by pumping the literal insurrectionists there who did a January 6th, if you believe the official story, they literally surrounded the parliament building and drove the president out of the country after getting $5 billion, billion with a B, from the U.S. State Department and USAID to do it. | ||
| And, you know, that was because the government at the time did not accept an IMF trade deal, a Soros-backed trade deal, and went with the Russian Federation deal. | ||
| So we overthrew their government. | ||
| Part of the terms of that government were to privatize NAPTA gas, which is the big feeder from Burisma. | ||
| What I'm trying to paint here is you have this economic... | ||
| The CIA came from Wall Street lawyers. | ||
| Let's just kind of back up a second and just kind of take stock of this. | ||
| You don't get rich working at the CIA or at the State Department or at the DOD. | ||
| The highest paid government official in all of D.C., more than even the president, was Tony Fauci at like $420,000. | ||
| If you are the head of the CIA, I don't think you're making more than $275K or something. | ||
| You can barely send your kid to private school in Manhattan. | ||
| You're making less than a six-year lawyer at a mid-tier New York law firm, and you're managing the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
| That's not how you get rich. | ||
| You get rich because of all the favors you do for the corporate and financial firms during your stay there and all the connections you have to the people still there once you leave. | ||
| That's how you get the board seat. | ||
| That's at a Raytheon or an ExxonMobil or at a Microsoft. | ||
| That's how you get your sinecure at a think tank like Brookings or CSIS or Atlantic Council. | ||
| That's how you get your academic professorship. | ||
| You know, at Stanford, like Michael McFaul. | ||
| It's because you are useful. | ||
| You're useful. | ||
| You get the money because you're useful to the people with money. | ||
| You are the enforcement arm of it. | ||
| Just like the CIA is sort of the, you know, the kid sister of the State Department. | ||
| You know, it's in a way, I've been talking about the Hunter Biden CIA situation for so long that it's almost humdrum, you know, in the sense that... | ||
| It's almost not a big deal. | ||
| It's just like a weird thing to say. | ||
| But all the CIA does is provide support to the State Department in a plausibly deniable way. | ||
| It's not the CIA's idea to do this. | ||
| It's an interagency plan. | ||
| An interagency plan to re-engineer the economics of the gas market, to pry Russia off of Ukraine, to create a resupply through ports in Poland and through the endogenous gas supply that Burisma was mining in the Donbass and in the Black Sea by Crimea, which they held all the rights to. | ||
| And so the State Department has that plan. | ||
| And the CIA gets tasked with executing it, but they're not really the brains of it. | ||
| It's sort of a similar thing when it comes to government policy in general. | ||
| The government officials are the executors of it, but they're not the frontal lobe. | ||
| And this is sort of where you get to the Black Rocks and the George Soroses and the huge Microsofts and Exxons. | ||
| You get the corporate and financial overclass. | ||
| And then you get the, you know, you get the hangman in government. | ||
| And this is sort of, you know, and this gets back to the same thing with the prosecutions here. | ||
| I don't think anybody thinks that, you know, Fannie Willis independently came up with this idea all by herself. | ||
| And, you know, she just happens to be back by George Soros. | ||
| You know, so, but that's sort of the order of operations. | ||
| There's a lot more on the Hunter-CIA thing, but I just wanted to... | ||
| Okay, I mean, like, listen, again, it's... | ||
| It's really good to take a step back and listen to the people who can not just unveil, again, not just show us the chessboard, but show us the dimensions above it. | ||
| And you're one of those very few people who can do that. | ||
| And it's been remarkable. | ||
| I'd like to go back to the analogy of people just losing faith in the system. | ||
| They see this stuff with Hunter and the CIA. | ||
| Oh, the CIA says Hunter Biden's protected. | ||
| Oh, got it. | ||
| That's where this guy can film all his crimes. | ||
| Film him. | ||
| It's not just, he did the crimes, he put it all on tape. | ||
| It's just an insult to all of us, yet Donald Trump's the one in court. | ||
| Ashley Biden can write that her dad showered with her when she was 11 years old, and Joe Biden's not a guy in court, it's Donald Trump. | ||
| Hillary Clinton can do the same thing with the Steele dossier. | ||
| Actually, like, to the letter, what they're trying to accuse Donald Trump of doing, and nothing, just slap on the wrist. | ||
| She had to pay a couple pennies to the FEC. | ||
| Sorry, the special prosecutor at the Justice Department said that Joe Biden was guilty of mishandling classified documents, but a jury would think that he's too genteel and forgetful. | ||
| So the exact same crimes, but the difference is one's 500 years in prison. | ||
| The other one is scot-free because, you know, like even with the same fact pattern, I'm sorry, there's a million. | ||
| It's designed to humiliate and it's designed to black pill. | ||
| And I suppose if you're looking for a silver lining, it's that the corporate media has never had fewer viewers or less trust. | ||
| People like Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Jimmy Dore, multiple comedians are seeing just record viewership along with this channel. | ||
| You've been on many of those programs. | ||
| I believe what seems to be created... | ||
| Is a monster, like, perhaps they're creating, like, the monster outside of their control because they depend so very much on having that corporate media entity to hold the side up. | ||
| And it just, it's all fallen to pieces. | ||
| People have lost faith in the system and are now tuning into you on Tucker Carlson to see what reality is. | ||
| And it clicks. | ||
| Like, it makes sense. | ||
| Your interview with Tucker Carlson did, like, 50 million views. | ||
| Yeah, well, this is where it gets to the terrifying part, because this is where it sort of gets to my day job, which is tracking the censorship industry. | ||
| And you have zeroed in on the exact crux of it all, which is this word trust, which is now a word that I have come to hate. | ||
| Because every time I see it in my day job purposes, it is for the most nefarious reasons. | ||
| Stuff that I could not have imagined growing up in this country I would ever see. | ||
| But we have so many trust programs now in the federal government designed to clockwork orange the American people into trusting institutions they've lost trust in through totally artificial and censorship-based means. | ||
| And trust really is this watchword, actually, at my foundation. | ||
| It's foundationforfreedomonline.com. | ||
| We have a censorspeak lexicon, and we have an entry for the word trust, you know, of what you think it means, what it actually means, and then examples of it in context. | ||
| And, you know, I'll give you an example. | ||
| You know, the National Science Foundation has a program called Secure and Trustworthy Cyberspace Program. | ||
| And in the secure and trustworthy cyberspace program, they funded something like $60 million to about 60 U.S. universities, all for censorship programs. | ||
| And what they do is they do this cute trick where they say, we need this program. | ||
| And by the way, the National Science Foundation is this bizarre sort of civilian DARPA. | ||
| When you have these dual-use technologies where it plays some useful role to the CIA or to the State Department or to the Pentagon, but they want the civilian sector to develop it. | ||
| And so it's basically, you know, it's kind of the civilian arm of DARPA, if you will, for these kind of dual-use technologies. | ||
| And the National Science Foundation, under this trustworthy cyberspace program, In its organizational docs of the program, it says misinformation on the internet is a threat to democracy. | ||
| Democracy is the set of democratic institutions that uphold democratic norms. | ||
| These include institutions such as the media. | ||
| The media. | ||
| The media is a democratic institution. | ||
| Now, if you go through, like, what I just... | ||
| The basic, you know, logical structure that I just laid out there. | ||
| And you see this in all of the grants because they're all designed for this. | ||
| This is the U.S. government paying essentially super NGOs to get social media companies to censor anyone who criticizes the media. | ||
| So, for example, you know, there's a grant where, you know, there's like a $6 million grant to something called CourseCorrect, which is a program. | ||
| That joins together some private censorship mercenaries and the University of Michigan. | ||
| I think it's $5.7 million from the National Science Foundation to create a dynamic disinformation dashboard for media institutions, whitelisted media institutions like the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, to see what all disinformation is going on on the internet and how people are undermining trust and faith in the New York Times and the Washington Post so that the news institutions have a real-time heat map. | ||
| Of the people attacking the news institutions, because that's an attack on democracy in the eyes of the government. | ||
| But this is just the government propping up the pawns that are defending its queen. | ||
| So when you talk on your timeline about these new discovery documents, Facebook effectively labeling things missing context, like at the pressure of the Biden regime. | ||
| The pressure of the Biden regime, a la the State Department, to take true information, but to say it's missing context, which is, by the way, all information is missing context. | ||
| Every second of our conversation, we've been live for five and a half hours. | ||
| Every second of this five and a half hour live has been missing context. | ||
| By any definition, there's always more context you can add. | ||
| And this really shocked me, because obviously we... | ||
| We used to be really, really big on Facebook. | ||
| And then suddenly we get completely strangled, right? | ||
| Like strangled in the cradle in the crib. | ||
| Our account is actually in these emails a couple of times, like the Facebook files, very similar to the Twitter files. | ||
| And so can you sort of, can you like, so this is exactly what you're talking about. | ||
| They're coming for our free information. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, they can't argue with the facts, so they have to control the spin. | ||
| This is state-mandated spin, is what this is, context. | ||
| Context is just spin. | ||
| How do you want to frame the issue? | ||
| How do you want to spin it? | ||
| Which is like, you can have a disagreement. | ||
| You can agree to the same facts, but have a wildly different interpretation about whether something's right or wrong, a scandal or above board. | ||
| But if you control the spin, you control the entire narrative. | ||
| And this really gets to something. | ||
| You know, that goes back a ways before that. | ||
| You know, this, I mean, it really goes back to the evolution of mis-dis and mal-information. | ||
| You had this, the censorship industry really got crowbarred into the American social media censorship milieu through Russiagate initially, which is this idea that there's a foreign predicate. | ||
| You know, we, the CIA came out in January 2017 and said, Russia interfered in our election because they interfered on social media. | ||
| And so we need to use that same Department of Dirty Tricks toolbox that we have to be able to bribe editorial desks at the Frankfurt Allgemeiner in Germany or Le Monde in France. | ||
| We get to do that to our own social media companies because it's counterintelligence. | ||
| We have to spy on our own people in order to stop the spies from abroad on our own people. | ||
| And so we get to turn our weapons inward to shoot our own people in order to stop... | ||
| The other people who are glommed on to our people. | ||
| So that was how it got started. | ||
| That was Russian disinformation. | ||
| And then from disinformation, it then expanded to misinformation and fake news. | ||
| And this idea that, well, you know what? | ||
| The Russians are, it's not just like false things. | ||
| They actually glom on to things that are like... | ||
| Partially true. | ||
| There's a kernel of truth, but it's still, on the whole, it's misinformation. | ||
| Then people amplify these stories, even though they don't know it to be false. | ||
| So it's not disinformation, it's misinformation. | ||
| So 2017, you had this disinformation. | ||
| 2018 really shifts into misinformation. | ||
| By 2019, even misinformation wasn't enough, because just hard, citable government facts started to be a real pain in the ass, if I can say that. | ||
| For fact checkers. | ||
| Because at the time, they were still very dependent on this sort of corporate government mercenary class of fact checkers to descend onto the platforms and then send these escalatory emails to Facebook management. | ||
| Washington Post is going to write a really nasty piece on this because you're allowing this. | ||
| And the problem was, is these fact checkers were not able to actually... | ||
| Sufficiently fact check a lot. | ||
| A lot of the stuff was just true factual information. | ||
| So they came up with this new term in 2019, which was malinformation, which is this idea is even if it's totally true, even if there's no way to fact check this thing false, if the context, if it's a missing context, this is why they switched to the phrase false or misleading. | ||
| Because in 2017, 2018, it was like, well, false. | ||
| It's false information. | ||
| But then they got to the point where you were citing CDC data about the COVID fatality rates. | ||
| And they were like, well, they're citing us. | ||
| And we're trying to ban someone who says COVID is not the flu. | ||
| Like DHS put a whole video on this. | ||
| Or COVID is the same fatality as the flu. | ||
| But it's malinformation because it's missing the context about the severity and the efficacy of the vaccines. | ||
| So, I mean, it's clockwork orange. | ||
| It's saying anything that descends from our spin. | ||
| It's basically going to be booted off the internet, salted the earth, and you won't get a dime of advertiser revenue because USAID and CIA cutouts like the NED have all gotten their hooks into the World Economic Forum's Global Advertisers for Responsible Media, which controls $2.6 billion in programmatic ad spend. | ||
| And you had this whole soft power apparatus descend on the economics of the news industry. | ||
| And we're now living in, thank God, The first era of successful resistance to that with shows like yours and Free Speech on X. What does successful resistance look like in a Trump term 2.0? | ||
| Nobody knows what's going to happen in the trial. | ||
| It looks like they're... | ||
| Guys, I'm just reading the production chat here. | ||
| It looks like they're letting the jury out right now. | ||
| Multiple people from inside of the courthouse saying this is... | ||
| This is not a great sign for the prosecution. | ||
| It may well lead to a hung jury. | ||
| We just don't know. | ||
| Nobody knows. | ||
| However, you worked for Donald Trump, term 1.0, and the behemoth that you describe here, the blob, is so huge and so scary and so intertwined and had so many tentacles that it's really hard to know. | ||
| How to rid yourself of it. | ||
| What would be your advice to a President Trump in a second term to begin to maybe cut a few tentacles off of this thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the number one thing is the motor engine of it all is money. | ||
| If you cut the money off, you cut off the capacity. | ||
| And they know this. | ||
| They know this. | ||
| Secretary Mayorkas at DHS even put up a tweet. | ||
| Where he was begging Congress to grant him every dirty penny they wanted to take from the U.S. taxpayers, despite running the censorship apparatus out of DHS and the open border out of DHS. | ||
| He said, you know, we don't care what you say about Homeland Security. | ||
| We'll know what you're serious about by what you fund. | ||
| And that right there is X marks the spot on the treasure map. | ||
| Of, you know, what to do here. | ||
| The fact is, is you could completely, I won't say, you know, crush the censorship industry, but you could sort of, and again, I mean this, I just can't think of a better analogy, but you could wound it, so to speak. | ||
| You could significantly impair the censorship industry. | ||
| Beyond all recognition, simply by removing the font of government funds from all of its little vessels. | ||
| Because it's like, this is a mercenary army, and I use this phrase very frequently. | ||
| The censorship mercenary army, which spans the private sector mercenary firms, the academic ones, the fact checker networks, all that stuff relies on hundreds of millions of dollars of U.S. government funding. | ||
| Whether that's from the National Science Foundation, whether that's from DHS grants, whether that's from Justice Department grants, whether that's from USAID grants, whether that's from National Endowment. | ||
| I mean, the whole thing, it is a totally subsidized industry. | ||
| But at the end of the day, you can't have censorship unless you have censors. | ||
| And those censors need to get paid for their work or else in order to be professionals. | ||
| We have created an industry, a vocation. | ||
| And that is not a natural supply and demand market. | ||
| It is subsidized by the government. | ||
| It's more subsidized than the frigging green energy, the censorship industry. | ||
| It would not exist without government subsidies. | ||
| And so all these people can be forced to learn to code. | ||
| The worst people in this space, hundreds of thousands of them across NATO. | ||
| And I saw content moderation lobbying letters in 2020. | ||
| That, you know, when I was at State, that Section 230 reform at the time, if it went through, it would put 100,000 content moderators out of jobs. | ||
| And that was four years ago. | ||
| So you can imagine, you know, we're probably at least double that now in terms of the number of people whose job is content moderation. | ||
| But you cut off the money, you cut off the blood to the arm, you know, basically. | ||
| And the thing will shrivel on the vine. | ||
| But the problem is, I've had conversations with members of Congress who say, I see all the work that you've done, for example, on DHS and the censorship run out of there, and I totally agree. | ||
| I wanted to vote to defund it, but I voted to give them what they asked for in the budget because we were told by party leadership at the GOP that CISA is too important, and we fell in line. | ||
| That is something that Trump is going to have to confront, and it depends on whether or not there can be serious reform or, as you said, just a few little things here and there to move the ball down the field, singles instead of home runs, so to speak. | ||
| It will depend on if he wins, how he wins. | ||
| Because if you remember, in 2016, Trump came in with most of the Republican Congress against him, and he sort of won them over by making a lot of concessions. | ||
| Giving the military more funding than they'd ever had before. | ||
| There was a strange sort of events with the bombing in Syria that made him the hero of CNN for a day. | ||
| And he made a lot of alliances with folks in that neocon right that he had campaigned against. | ||
| He made John Bolton his national security advisor for a time. | ||
| He made Nikki Haley the ambassador to the UN. | ||
| And those dynamics will... | ||
| Absolutely be a part of Trump 2.0, but he did do a lot of things differently as things evolved. | ||
| You know, he put Johnny McEntee, for example, as the head of PPO, which made a huge difference in terms of getting good personnel in as opposed to the previous. | ||
| And that took Trump three years to catch on to that. | ||
| But if you listen to Norm Eisen and these types whose job is to try to kill Trump from every angle, they constantly talk now about how Trump seemed to wise up. | ||
| You know, in the final year of his administration and would not be able to get away with the same kind of tricks like Jim Comey bragging about how he sent in, you know, he was able to get, you know, Flynn arrested because he couldn't get away with that under Hillary Clinton people, but the Trump people were too green, so he bragged about taking advantage of them. | ||
| I think Trump is wiser now, and there is more opportunity for reform if he can survive. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Really quickly here, Mike. | ||
| Can he survive? | ||
| Your thoughts on this trial, on this soft coup? | ||
| The soft coup has turned into a hard coup now with this trial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Your thoughts quickly on the trial. | ||
| It can go one of two ways. | ||
| On the one hand, him being arrested, he could still win this from a jail cell. | ||
| When I was a kid, I remember hearing stories about Marion Barry's You know, D.C. mayorship and, you know, he was set up by the FBI and, you know, he had the B-I-T-C-H set me up, you know, sort of thing where there's cocaine and hookers. | ||
| But at the end of the day, you know, the African-American population looked at that FBI sting and said, well, you know what? | ||
| This Justice Department is corrupt. | ||
| We don't care whether or not he's in jail. | ||
| And if I recall, I think they reelected him, you know, even after that. | ||
| And, you know, you sort of have the orange folks now, you know, orange is sort of the new black in that way, in this case, that you could see a very similar situation where Trump could actually win this thing from jail. | ||
| I actually don't know what would make a lot of people vote harder or earlier in time or more excited than, if nothing else, the entertainment value of that, which can't even be understated. | ||
| You know, and a lot of people might sit out just because they're not gung-ho about Biden. | ||
| But the other thing is, you know, well, what does that look like if he becomes president from there? | ||
| Are you still going to be marred by the civil... | ||
| There may be concessions that Trump feels he needs to make to the blob to signal to them that they will have guardrails on his presidency. | ||
| And this is where it starts to get to the issues around the vice presidential pick and the symbolic... | ||
| You know, the fact is Trump just came out and said that Nikki Haley would be a part of the team. | ||
| You know, there's been a lot of talk about a sort of Marco Rubio or a Tom Cotton, you know, type as VP who are very much in the foreign, I'm not casting aspersions, just they are very much in the foreign policy camp, very much in that, you know, Marco Rubio is the ranking member for the Senate Intelligence Committee, so he's oversight of the CIA. | ||
| Tom Cotton's, you know, very active in the sort of military space there. | ||
| But then you also have, Trump has a weird history of tango dancing with the blob on these matters. | ||
| For everyone who remembers Mitt Romney, who was the bane of Trump's run in 2016 and led the impeachment from the Republican side in 2019, and Trump was flirted with making him Secretary of State. | ||
| The pictures of Trump and Romney at dinner where he was going to be Secretary of State, he was going to be Secretary of State, and then he... | ||
| You know, he's smiling at the camera while Romney's looking depressed. | ||
| And the next picture is slump-shouldered Romney walking away. | ||
| And Trump, like, million-dollar grin, like, see you later, buddy. | ||
| Don't let the door kick you on the way out. | ||
| So you never know with Trump if there is this weird 4-D chess where he's leading the blob on to think he'll be reasonable so that he can sort of get away with some space to have room to maneuver. | ||
| You know, it's hard to penetrate what's going on in the brain there. | ||
| It must be a lot on his mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess you have to assume that. | ||
| And then you have TikToks like yesterday from Don Jr. where they're like smiling and eating milk duds behind the scenes in the courthouse. | ||
| And you're like, man, this guy, this guy has a different, he's built different. | ||
| He's Buddha! | ||
| He's Orange Buddha! | ||
| I mean, I don't understand how it's even possible, you know, but yes. | ||
| Mike, I want to ask 400 more questions. | ||
| I would like to jump into five different buckets that you've built here. | ||
| We just can't, and we do not have the time right now. | ||
| I really hope you can come to Tampa, and we can sit down in studio and do that. | ||
| You know, and then grab a beer or a bourbon and a steak. | ||
| We'd love to. | ||
| We'll wrap back soon. | ||
| I really appreciate your work. | ||
| Obviously, everybody knows you. | ||
| You have 320,000 followers on X. You have an incredible, absolutely incredible. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| A verdict is reached. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Wait a second. | ||
| Mike, hang tight. | ||
| Oh my God, I'm not ready. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| There's a verdict. | ||
| Jury has reached a verdict. | ||
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Wow. | |
| They would like another 30 minutes to fill out forms. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| Okay, so we can't hold on. | ||
| We can't hold over, I guess, for that. | ||
| We can't hold over for that amount of time here. | ||
| So this is breaking news. | ||
| Jury has reached a verdict after what would presumably be between 12 and 14 hours of deliberation. | ||
| Mershon just came back to the room, told us that the jury has sent him a note. | ||
| They have reached a verdict, and they would like another 30 minutes to fill out forms. | ||
| In one day. | ||
| One day of deliberation. | ||
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Wow. | |
| We will see. | ||
| We will see. | ||
| While the judge was mistaken, the jury has a verdict. | ||
| They are not asking to leave early. | ||
| They have a final decision. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, there we go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Judge has final decision from Jonathan Turley. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Crazy times. | ||
| Wild times. | ||
| I guess we'll remain. | ||
| We'll keep an eye, obviously, on this. | ||
| Biggest breaking news in the world. | ||
| Mike, God bless you. | ||
| Thank you for your work. | ||
| And I guess we'll see. | ||
| It's not shit. | ||
| I guess we'll see. | ||
| History is driving. | ||
| Right at us at 150 miles an hour. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| We may need that bourbon faster than we think. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, talk soon. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, this has just happened. | ||
| A day two verdict has been reached. | ||
| I think we've connected. | ||
| We're ready for this on all fronts. | ||
| I'm just working with my production team to get to the... | ||
| Okay, to confirm this. | ||
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Oh, um... | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, we are, again, in a breaking news environment. | ||
| We thought that this was the end. | ||
| We thought that this was the end. | ||
| That's all the reporting out of the courthouse. | ||
| Okay, so let me give you the full update. | ||
| All the reporting out of the courthouse was that they were going home for the day. | ||
| That they were finished. | ||
| The judge was going to try and keep them for longer. | ||
| But they were done. | ||
| And so they were going to release, and it was going to be... | ||
| We're going to be finished. | ||
| And now we hear that the jury has reached a verdict, and this is not a mistake. | ||
| The judge was mistaken, according to Jonathan Turley. | ||
| Judge was mistaken. | ||
| Jury has a verdict. | ||
| They are not asking to leave early. | ||
| They have a final decision. | ||
| Jonathan Turley is saying it is hard to see this as a positive for Trump. | ||
| If there were a hung jury, it would be expected to be a minority of holdouts. | ||
| We will have to wait and see. | ||
| However, those who bet on Thursday appear prophetic. | ||
| The judge seems surprised and was waiting to dismiss them for the day. | ||
| It seems far too early for an acquittal, so the bets are on conviction. | ||
| The judge clearly has moved beyond whatever impasse existed before sending out notes we will know soon, which soon would be presumably 30 minutes. | ||
| And so this is what we know so far. | ||
| Andrew Giuliani has been reporting from inside of the courthouse here. | ||
| The jury has reached a verdict. | ||
| Judge Marchand came back in and said that they're going to need 30 minutes. | ||
| This was sent five minutes ago. | ||
| So presumably 30 minutes. | ||
| We are going to have, I guess we have some breaking news up live here. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, and then we're going to decide, obviously, where we head from there. | ||
| So this is the, ladies and gentlemen, this is the breaking news as of right now. | ||
| So what does this mean for Donald Trump? | ||
| Well, some say it doesn't mean a good thing. | ||
| I guess it depends on how you're looking at this. | ||
| If Donald Trump and his daughter-in-law, if you were to look at it through the lens of Laura Trump, then in God we trust, right? | ||
| That's what was written in the courthouse. | ||
| So this is what we're going to put our trust in. | ||
| Uh, the handicappers, like Jonathan Turley, saying that this isn't good, um, and would, like, a jury reaching a conclusion after day two of deliberation doesn't necessarily mean a good thing for Trump. | ||
| Um, but nonetheless, we are, uh, we are waiting and we are ready to see here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Um, also... | ||
| I'm going to need to confer with our production team as to how we wish to cover this within the arena. | ||
| So here's the feed of the court on the screen, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We are, again, in a breaking news environment. | ||
| We're getting the clips as fast as humanly possible for you and getting the... | ||
| The feed up from the courthouse. | ||
| This is the live courthouse shot. | ||
| Presumably, you'll see Donald Trump walking in here in a moment. | ||
| So it's Donald Trump will walk into the courthouse and will hear the decision of the jury. | ||
| Jury will, presumably, Donald Trump will be heading into the courthouse in any moment. | ||
| There's the live feed up. | ||
| And we're going to be ready to rock and roll. | ||
| So, gentlemen, here we are. | ||
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Um... | |
| And we are furiously searching through. | ||
| To find any further information on what is happening. | ||
| The jury in the criminal case, Donald Trump, has rendered a verdict. | ||
| The jury members have requested 30 minutes to fill out the paperwork. | ||
| This means it is not a hung jury. | ||
| The verdict of not guilty or guilty has been reached. | ||
| So really important here. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Yeah, we have Donald Trump from inside of the courtroom. | ||
| And now we wait and see. | ||
| So ladies and gentlemen, once again, this is a live shot of the court. | ||
| This is breaking news. | ||
| We've never seen anything like this in American history. | ||
| And this is the... | ||
| The moment. | ||
| This is the moment. | ||
| Many are saying that there's absolutely no way that they acquit Donald Trump. | ||
| But we will see. | ||
| Laura Trump says, Laura Trump says, in God we trust. | ||
| And that's what's written in the courthouse. | ||
| And so that's what we're going to do. | ||
| Much sooner than we anticipated, even a few minutes ago. | ||
| Few were expecting a jury verdict today. | ||
| I'll post the latest as soon as I receive them. | ||
| It says Paul Ingrassia from inside of the courtroom. | ||
| Reporter Paul Ingrassia of the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| Another 30 minutes before the announcement. | ||
| So ladies and gentlemen, here we go. | ||
| This is the moment. | ||
| The verdict has been reached. | ||
| Let's rock and roll. | ||
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For those of you just tuning in, we have just gotten word that the jury has reached a verdict in this Trump hush money case, whether that involved addressing all 34 counts, whether any were combined, no idea. | |
| But Francie, of course, maybe there was that misinterpretation of them stopping things early. | ||
| They could have gone right to 6 p.m. | ||
| Maybe when finishing up a little bit before 4.30, a little more than 10 minutes ago, they were indeed finished. | ||
| What do you make of it? | ||
| Well, it's really interesting, Neal. | ||
| I said all along that I thought a fast verdict, something like this, was probably not good for the former president, that the longer it went on, the more it would suggest a hung jury that is a jury unable to reach a verdict. | ||
| So I think the fact that they've reached a verdict is probably not good for the former president, but it's really difficult to know what a jury is going to do in an extraordinary case like this, where you have so much unconstitutional thumb on the scale by the judge. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen, that is the moment. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, this is the moment. | ||
| And we're going to hear. | ||
| Now, I'm scrolling through our feeds here, and I'm seeing a lot of people saying that this is a bad sign for Donald Trump. | ||
| Do our very best to obviously keep a positive spree de corps around here. | ||
| But it is what it is. | ||
| The jury reaching a verdict here is considered a relatively quick verdict. | ||
| And if they... | ||
| Find Donald Trump? | ||
| Guilty? | ||
| Then do we even live in a republic anymore? | ||
| Do we live in a free country? | ||
| Is the American republic gone? | ||
| Is democracy finished? | ||
| The fate of our country rests in the hands of 12 New Yorkers, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| They may very well acquit Donald Trump, but I suppose if they have reached a verdict, then the hung jury, which many have speculated, is not an option. | ||
| So this is, again, an incredibly important moment. | ||
| You're going to remember this for the rest of our lives right now. | ||
| So here we go, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You're watching live. | ||
| The live courthouse decision in New York. | ||
| We have more breaking news from outside of the courthouse. | ||
| There have been large crowds gathered. | ||
| And this is the moment. | ||
| We've all been waiting for. | ||
| We're waiting. | ||
| But here it is, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're going to hear directly from what happens inside of the courthouse. | ||
| The idea that you'd have a hung jury seems a little bit naive because What would happen if one of the jurors... | ||
| I mean, we've been advocating for this, obviously, and there's always hope. | ||
| But there's no more hope that there's a hung jury, okay? | ||
| So there's three possible outcomes. | ||
| You have acquittal, guilty, or a hung jury. | ||
| If they're unanimous, then there's no hung jury. | ||
| They all agree on something. | ||
| They agree to either acquit Donald Trump or they agree to find him guilty. | ||
| There have been some small... | ||
| Signs, glimmers of hope, which are the jury requesting instructions, the jury asking for stuff to be read back, asking for more notes, being confused. | ||
| But consider this in the hung jury thought experiment here. | ||
| What would happen if they found, what would happen when the corporate press finds the identity? | ||
| I just want to make sure Trump's not walking in here. | ||
| You're seeing sort of like police officers gather. | ||
| Again, you are looking at a live shot of inside of the courthouse right now. | ||
| You're looking at a live shot inside of the court. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| What would happen if, to a juror, if the corporate media and the Democrat Party superstructure and George Soros, goons, goblins, BLM, Antifa, what would happen if they found out who that person was? | ||
| Which they would. | ||
| And there was one person in downtown Manhattan, and he was the one guy that prevented them from prosecuting Trump. | ||
| What would they do to that person? | ||
| What would that person's life be like? | ||
| You can see now why they do these trials in the places that they do these trials. | ||
| You can see what they are doing and how the rigging continues apace. | ||
| In this moment. | ||
| So ladies and gentlemen, we wait. | ||
| Some say that it might be 30 minutes. | ||
| Some say that it could be sooner. | ||
| I think that you should, no matter how long or no matter what background you come from, you should say a prayer for President Trump. | ||
| The power of prayer is important. | ||
| It is all that we have to connect us to. | ||
| The creator of the universe. | ||
| Directly. | ||
| By praying, you say that you believe in a creator of the universe. | ||
| That you believe that you are not here alone. | ||
| And that there are powers that are beyond our human comprehension that do miracles. | ||
| Would this be considered a miracle in the modern day? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah, it's like getting Trump to be acquitted in New York? | ||
| Yeah, that would be considered a miracle. | ||
| This is what's on the table. | ||
| Three options. | ||
| Hung jury, where the jurors do not decide on something. | ||
| Not guilty or guilty. | ||
| And this needs unanimity for guilty or not guilty. | ||
| Now, there are trial errors that could happen on both sides, right? | ||
| I mean, you've seen it in the jury instructions go directly against the Constitution. | ||
| Of the United States. | ||
| Directly against the Supreme Court. | ||
| You can just find him guilty of this menu of things and this menu of things. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| But this is the world that we live in. | ||
| Joe Biden has tampered with the jury. | ||
| Joe Biden tampered with the jury by announcing that he would be doing campaign rallies outside of the court. | ||
| A address from the White House. | ||
| All of these people have been scared within an inch of their lives, these jurors. | ||
| Imagine the kind of pressure they're under. | ||
| You live in New York City, even if you're not a Democrat, and they find out that you were the one guy that created a hung jury, and they have to then... | ||
| Let Donald Trump go free that second. | ||
| Watching the doors here, seeing if Donald Trump walks into the courthouse. | ||
| What you're seeing is a lot of law enforcement. | ||
| Again, you're looking at a live shot here. | ||
| Here's a live shot, presumably outside of the court with MAGA faithful and then some bystanders. | ||
| So we're ready to go. | ||
| So we're ready to go here. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, again. | ||
| We have no idea how long it's going to take. | ||
| We have no live feed of the courtroom itself as from the beginning of this trial two months ago, we've had no live feed inside of the courthouse, right? | ||
| They won't allow it, which is just totally, totally criminal. | ||
| But we do have all of our producers online. | ||
| We have been live now for six hours and we're going nowhere. | ||
| We have guests, more guests that will be joining us. | ||
| And we are locked and loaded and ready to go. | ||
| But there is nothing happening as of now inside of the court. | ||
| That's why you've seen sort of the court feed to sort of go to pedestrians outside. | ||
| That's what you're watching right now. | ||
| And so this is what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to play the pundits describing what this means. | ||
| Many pundits, according to my feed, and I'm not a doomer, nor am I a black pillar. | ||
| Many pundits saying that this is not a... | ||
| If you're looking for a positive sign for Donald Trump, this is not one. | ||
| That's just what they're saying. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| And, ladies and gentlemen, we're going absolutely nowhere. | ||
| So let's jump in to what some of the pundits are saying right now. | ||
| And a reminder, we are going to be joined. | ||
| We are going to be joined by some absolutely bombshell legal experts momentarily. | ||
| Robbie, who's coming on the show? | ||
| Let's go, baby. | ||
| Who's next? | ||
| I just want you to know, we're going to have Christina Bob, who's Donald Trump's attorney, on the program. | ||
| And we're going to be having Brett Tolman, I believe, also on the program. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Got to be faster, Robbie. | ||
| Got to be quicker. | ||
| So we have Donald Trump's attorney and former federal prosecutor, Brett Tolman. | ||
| Joining the program. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| We are ready to go right here in the arena. | ||
| Let's rock and roll, baby. | ||
| Let's rock and roll. | ||
| Here's what they're saying about what this quick jury decision means. | ||
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Want to take that? | |
| You go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, I guess, Neil, I don't know that we have that much reason to think that there was all that much dissension. | ||
| One of the things that we've been discussing during the day was the early notes seemed to indicate that they were probing the way the prosecution asked the jury to see the case, which was really... | ||
| Was there this conspiracy to influence the outcome of the 2016 election? | ||
| I thought if the early notes had been directed toward the documents, you might make an argument that they were looking more narrowly at the charges. | ||
| But once they started to ask about the 2015 Trump Tower meeting, which is really the start point of what the prosecution argued was this big conspiracy, that makes you think the jury at least... | ||
| Was willing or open to buy the prosecution narrative about the case. | ||
| Or wasn't, right? | ||
| I mean, I guess on that point, Shannon, wouldn't it be just as likely, maybe the judge was, you've got to reconcile these differences, get back in there, that it's unlikely that he would do so so quickly if they came back and said we can't reach a decision on this. | ||
| Normally, he would urge them, all right, go back and give this a little bit of time. | ||
| The fact that he didn't... | ||
| Does that mean that Andy's onto something? | ||
| Well, and remember, there was such a large portion of the jury instructions that was read back to them that they asked for. | ||
| It would have been a lot more helpful for all of us trying to prognosticate if we knew which section they were really honed in on and interested in. | ||
| But the fact that it was some, I think, 29 pages that were read to them, it covered all kinds of things about intent and language and accomplice and all of these different things. | ||
| So we don't know what it was that they were really trying to get to as the critical point of whatever their disagreement was. | ||
| I know that they asked about those meetings, about Pecker v. | ||
| Cohen, different parts of the testimony, but what we also know is that what was read back... | ||
| As we've said, both sides could claim some kind of victory, that it was good for them in what the jury heard a second time. | ||
| But the fact that they have had weeks and weeks of this only had one set of questions, essentially. | ||
| Two notes. | ||
| They wanted some testimony. | ||
| They wanted some jury instructions. | ||
| Suggest to us that when they went into that room yesterday and were for the first time really freely able to talk about this, that there was really only this one point of contention that they wanted to get through before they came back to some kind of decision today. | ||
| Because we didn't know. | ||
| Is that a one-time thing? | ||
| Is there one juror who wants to hear that? | ||
| Are there 10 jurors that want to hear that stuff back? | ||
| Will they have other notes for us? | ||
| So the one set of notes, the massive rereading of jury instructions doesn't give us a lot of a solid clue about exactly what they were looking for to get to whatever decision they're at now. | ||
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All right. | |
| So we're waiting to hear from the jury on that verdict. | ||
| And maybe you can explain the mechanics that we're waiting on as we speak. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| What happens is, evidently, they told them they've reached a verdict. | ||
| So I would doubt that they're going to come out and indicate that they have anything other than that they've reached a disposition in the case. | ||
| They're not going to come out and say that they are at a point where they can't resolve it. | ||
| And that's especially the case, I think, if they've asked for additional time to fill out the jury verdict. | ||
| Now, we don't know what the verdict form... | ||
| Looks like, which should be a real bone of contention because that should be a public document. | ||
| And again, one of the things I've been concerned about from the beginning, one of the reasons I thought there would be a conviction is I believe the judge's instructions, just like the way that he's tried the case or presided over the case, were geared toward that result. | ||
| And if you got a quick result, that that would be more than likely what it would be. | ||
| And I would add to that, Neil, that we'd really like to see... | ||
| The verdict sheet, because it seems to me that when 12 people who've never resolved anything together go into a room and have to resolve something important for the first time, they need kind of a structure to guide their discussions. | ||
| And sometimes a verdict sheet can provide that structure. | ||
| So I think it's interesting that they said we reached a verdict, but we want to fill out the verdict sheet. | ||
| The other thing that it seems to me is... | ||
| The sensible way to resolve this case is either you convict on 34 counts or you acquit on 34 counts because what Bragg has done here is taken one thing and carved it into 34. So it shouldn't take very long to fill that out. | ||
| If they have different resolutions of different charges, that would be very strange to me. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we go. | ||
| We are rocking, rocking and rolling. | ||
| You may notice the set change here. | ||
| We have our In the Arena show in partnership with Tenet Media. | ||
| We're just going to flow right into that program. | ||
| Donald Trump jury has reached a verdict, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| The jury is ready to decide Donald Trump's fate at this moment. | ||
| So we are waiting. | ||
| We are waiting. | ||
| And we are ready. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, you right now are in the arena. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| you you you you you you We are awaiting this decision. | ||
| We have multiple members of Donald Trump's team lined up and ready to speak with us. | ||
| Christina Bobb, who's Donald Trump's attorney, will be joining the program, along with Brett Tolman, federal prosecutor. | ||
| And long-time DOJ employee who better understands the criminal cases than anybody. | ||
| One of the most long-standing and wise legal minds that you can possibly get to break down an issue in a situation like this. | ||
| Right now, the jury is returning a verdict. | ||
| And that verdict is going to be one of three things. | ||
| One of three things. | ||
| It's going to be either guilty, it's going to be not guilty, or it could be a hung jury, but we know that's not the case because they have decided unanimously. | ||
| We do not know what the jury has decided. | ||
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However, okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is the breaking news. | ||
| Donald Trump has been found guilty on 34 of 34 counts. | ||
| Guilty on all. | ||
| Guilty on all. | ||
| So this is guilty mantra to 30 and counting. | ||
| So they're now reading this in the courthouse. | ||
| Guilty. | ||
| Let's put up these tweets, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Donald Trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts. | ||
| The country as we know it will change forever on this very date. | ||
| Guilty on all counts. | ||
| So they rigged a system. | ||
| They rigged a process against the president. | ||
| They did so in ways that are innumerable. | ||
| But why don't we just start? | ||
| From the top of our heads. | ||
| They took a bookkeeping misdemeanor and they tried to get the DOJ to come after Trump for that. | ||
| And the DOJ said no. | ||
| This is garbage. | ||
| We look forward to talking about this with Brett Tolman. | ||
| They took a bookkeeping misdemeanor to the Federal Elections Commission in Washington, D.C. And the Federal Election Commission said no. | ||
| We're not going to bring this garbage charge. | ||
| There's nothing here. | ||
| An affair that Donald Trump had in 2015? | ||
| Or maybe didn't have, because both parties deny it? | ||
| We have nothing. | ||
| We're not going after the president for that. | ||
| That does not constitute campaign finance violation, and that's not our purview. | ||
| Donald Trump books are his books, and this seems like a private payment from a lawyer. | ||
| Then they went to Alvin Bragg's office, but the person who was there before Alvin Bragg, because Alvin Bragg is a George Soros-appointed apparatchik. | ||
| And Alvin Bragg's office, the person who was there previously as the district attorney, said no to these charges. | ||
| And so they were rebuffed once more. | ||
| Then they went to Alvin Bragg's office once Alvin Bragg got in, and Alvin Bragg said no. | ||
| We don't have the capacity to bring a case like this. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| Then the Department of Justice, Michael Colangelo, who is somebody who is number three in the Department of Justice, moves, it takes a demotion and moves into Alvin Bragg's office and works exclusively on this case from the Biden DOJ. | ||
| Cobbling together the judge, the jury, the courthouse, the charges, the timeline, and then brings these charges against Donald Trump. | ||
| For an alleged affair in 2015, for a payment that was made in 2017, for something that was denied prosecution by every single law enforcement agency and arm. | ||
| But they were finally able to jangle the keys and rig the system and rip enough of the good faith and credit that the American people have in our Constitution away and in our justice system away. | ||
| They were able to rip it and tear that bark off. | ||
| So the point of breaking, and now they've finally broken the jury pool into issuing a guilty verdict of Donald Trump. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we can't think of somebody better to join this program right now than Christina Bobb, who is an attorney at the Republican National Committee. | ||
| She's also a... | ||
| Did not take this. | ||
| She's also a former attorney for Donald Trump personally, and we are getting her exclusive first reaction. | ||
| Joining us in the arena, Christina Bob. | ||
| A horrifying day for the Republic. | ||
| It's hard to see it as anything else. | ||
| It's hard to see this, I suppose, as a surprise, even for the most optimistic of... | ||
| Persons, but Christina, I'd really like to hear your take. | ||
| Yeah, I am not surprised by this verdict. | ||
| I'm not surprised by the verdict. | ||
| I had a feeling that it was coming when I saw the jury instructions, quite honestly. | ||
| It's manufactured. | ||
| The jury instructions absolutely manufactured this verdict. | ||
| And there's no other way to say it. | ||
| They know that. | ||
| There's no way that this is going to withstand appeal, but they don't care. | ||
| They just need it to withstand the election. | ||
| It's a very tragic day, but my immediate reaction is, okay, America, now it's our turn to stand up. | ||
| We absolutely have to stand firm. | ||
| We have to make sure that we're still voicing our opinions, make sure that we're still exercising our rights, and it's our turn to be the voice for Donald Trump where he can't be. | ||
| So it's now more than ever, don't lose heart. | ||
| We have to stand firm on this. | ||
| Do you think that this will just simply galvanize a wide... | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| I think it's going to do nothing but create support for Donald Trump. | ||
| I'm very curious to see what they're going to do as far as confinement for him. | ||
| I think that this is an attempt to get him off the campaign trail. | ||
| They don't like those big crowds in the Bronx. | ||
| They don't like the big crowds in New Jersey. | ||
| They don't like the big crowds in Texas. | ||
| And so I think they know that... | ||
| The Americans aren't going to like this verdict, but they just want to make sure that he can't campaign, that he can't be on the trail. | ||
| So I'm very, very curious to see what they try to do as far as confinement goes or any type of restricting his movement or limiting his mobility in any way because I think that's really the only thing that they stand to gain from this is limiting his ability to campaign because they're certainly not getting, they're not gaining anything from this verdict. | ||
| All of the polling shows that everybody had their So this is very much a possibility. | ||
| You're the attorney here, however. | ||
| Could you please game theory what you think is going to happen? | ||
| Based on our reading and our understanding of the legal system in New York, the judge may well decide his ruling here right away. | ||
| He may just decide from the bench today. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| I suppose we'll wait for the breaking news to come in. | ||
| But what do you believe is going to happen? | ||
| Summer predicting home confinement? | ||
| This would be a way to get him off the campaign trail? | ||
| A gag order that continues? | ||
| A way to stop him from speaking, even if a debate with Joe Biden is possible? | ||
| Yeah, I do expect them to confine him in some way. | ||
| I mean, sending him straight to... | ||
| I don't see a good solution for them to get this guilty verdict and then let him go campaign freely across the country talking about how bad it is. | ||
| So they, from their perspective, need to limit him in some way, whether it's a gag order, whether he's limited to Travel within the state of New York or something like that. | ||
| Maybe he has to stay home, house arrest effectively. | ||
| I don't know what they're going to do, but not confining him, I think, for their perspective is probably the worst possible solution for them because Donald Trump being Donald Trump is going to go out and galvanize everybody and talk to the American people, be very public about this, go out and meet with people and allow them to see him, interact with him in real time. | ||
| That will be a huge, huge blow to the left. | ||
| So I think the only way they contain Americans' hatred for this ruling and for this process is to actually contain Donald Trump. | ||
| So you believe they're going to continue with the election rigging and by stopping the leading candidate for president, not just a candidate for president, the leading candidate, the person who's winning demonstrably to stop him from running for president. | ||
| You're reaching constitutional crisis levels here. | ||
| We are. | ||
| And I hate to say that I'm agreeing with, you know, your summary of what I just said. | ||
| I hate to say that I do, but I didn't think we'd get here. | ||
| I mean, we are absolutely in uncharted territory. | ||
| So I have no way of predicting this. | ||
| I'm just looking at what they're doing and going, how the heck did we get here and where are they going with it? | ||
| And they keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down. | ||
| And they're now at the point they have. | ||
| Far surpassed the point of no return. | ||
| And so I think they have to keep getting crazier and crazier. | ||
| And the only thing past what they've already done now is to somehow limit him in some way, whether it's through speech or physical location, you know, his ability to move. | ||
| I don't know, but we are absolutely, absolutely in a constitutional crisis right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So how do you... | ||
| I guess the only way you get out of this constitutional crisis is to elect this guy president because you can't have any restrictions on the presidency via the Constitution. | ||
| And so if you want this all to go away, you have to support Donald Trump for president. | ||
| Don Jr. staying effectively as much on social media right now. | ||
| Guilty on all accounts, the Democrats have succeeded in their years-long attempt to turn America into a third world asshole. | ||
| November 5th is our last chance to save it. | ||
| You're working at the RNC right now. | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| If we want to save this country, we have to elect Donald Trump as the next president. | ||
| We have to clean out this corruption. | ||
| We have to stop criminalizing political opposition. | ||
| They're trying to throw everybody in prison who has spoken out, who has... | ||
| Opposed them in one way or another, myself included. | ||
| I certainly am not Donald Trump, but I have faced and am facing some of this. | ||
| It's really, really ugly what they're doing. | ||
| We absolutely have to stop it. | ||
| So, again, how do you stop? | ||
| Do you have plans for appeal? | ||
| Do you have plans? | ||
| I mean, obviously, I assume that everyone's saying this is going to be turned over on appeal. | ||
| We've had dozens of people on our program today. | ||
| This is going to be turned over on appeal. | ||
| Right, but like, you're going to wait. | ||
| The election's in five months, right? | ||
| And that's why they do this. | ||
| I mean, this is their playbook. | ||
| We've seen this before. | ||
| Jack Smith did this with Bob McDonald, former governor of Virginia, and they're doing the exact same thing. | ||
| Jack Smith got overturned at the United States Supreme Court, 8-0. | ||
| Scalia had passed away at that point. | ||
| But it was a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court to overrule what Jack Smith did. | ||
| He didn't care because it was all about election interference. | ||
| It wasn't about justice. | ||
| It wasn't about what was happening with Bob McDonnell. | ||
| This isn't even about Donald Trump. | ||
| This is election interference. | ||
| And so they don't care. | ||
| They know. | ||
| They know it's going to be overturned on appeal, which is why they're making these crazy rulings and these crazy decisions. | ||
| Christina, I hope that you're able to... | ||
| Stay with me through breaking news right now. | ||
| Donald Trump is speaking. | ||
| So your former boss is speaking right now. | ||
| If you don't mind, can we watch this together? | ||
| Yes, please. | ||
| Right now with the president. | ||
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Right now. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| You can see Donald Trump there. | ||
| Donald Trump is speaking. | ||
| Thank you, Nihaba. | ||
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Mr. Krupp, I think it's gonna be a picture of the dollar. | |
| Are you worried about coming in, J.O.? | ||
| This was a disgrace. | ||
| This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. | ||
| It's a rigged trial, a disgrace. | ||
| They wouldn't give us a venue change. | ||
| We were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area. | ||
| This was a rigged, disgraceful trial. | ||
| The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people. | ||
| And they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. | ||
| You have a so-respect DA and the whole thing. | ||
| We didn't do a thing wrong. | ||
| I'm a very innocent man and it's okay. | ||
| I'm fighting for our country. | ||
| I'm fighting for our Constitution. | ||
| Our whole country is being rigged right now. | ||
| This was done by the Biden administration in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent. | ||
| And I think it's just a disgrace. | ||
| And we'll keep fighting. | ||
| We'll fight till the end and we'll win because our country's gone to hell. | ||
| We don't have the same country anymore. | ||
| We have a divided mess. | ||
| We're a nation in decline, serious decline. | ||
| Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country. | ||
| We have a country that's in big trouble. | ||
| But this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case. | ||
| Never. | ||
| And we will fight for our Constitution. | ||
| This is long from over. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Why did the voters vote for it? | |
| 'Cause they get sound. | ||
| Are you gonna drop it out? | ||
| You don't get to the roadblocks. | ||
| You trust the jury? | ||
| Are you trying to get a right hand? | ||
| Are you not ready? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, those were Donald Trump's brief comments before the court and before the members of the court and the media there. | ||
| Christina Bob is with us from the RNC. | ||
| We are getting breaking news, a mile a minute here. | ||
| Apparently sentencing is going to be July 11th. | ||
| That's right before, it's a week before the RNC convention. | ||
| That must infuriate you. | ||
| They're going to stop Donald Trump from going to the RNC convention. | ||
| It is shocking. | ||
| I cannot fathom what they are doing, what they are trying to do, the level of election interference that this has risen to. | ||
| All I can say to the American public is... | ||
| Stand strong. | ||
| We have to stand with Donald Trump. | ||
| We have to stand with constitutional principles. | ||
| No matter what they throw at him, no matter what they throw at us, we have to stay strong in support of this man for president because the reason they're going after him is everything that he has said. | ||
| They're not after me. | ||
| They're after you. | ||
| I'm just standing in the way. | ||
| And so now it's time for us to continue our support for him and stand up and stand for him when he's not able to. | ||
| I just want to encourage everybody, don't lose heart, don't get discouraged, just refocus and say, we're going to keep going and we're going to get Donald Trump back in the White House. | ||
| Donald Trump looked particularly angry there. | ||
| I imagine. | ||
| And you know him better than most. | ||
| You've served as his attorney in official and unofficial roles. | ||
| And so I'd like to sort of get your thought process on what he's going through right now, what the strategy is going forward. | ||
| Donald Trump seemed quite determined and quite... | ||
| You know, we've seen him in many moods in the courthouse, but he seemed angry. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine he is angry. | ||
| And I imagine he is experiencing a lot of emotions right now, anger being one of them, determination being another, resilience. | ||
| He is the most resilient person I've ever met. | ||
| He's the most determined to save this country. | ||
| And I think we all know that... | ||
| He's the only one that can do this. | ||
| He's the only one that can survive these attacks and withstand it. | ||
| He's built for this. | ||
| I believe he was absolutely made for this. | ||
| And I think he knows that, too. | ||
| I think he intuitively understands that he is a unique person in American history. | ||
| And if he doesn't stand up to save this country, there's not really anybody else who can. | ||
| And so, yeah, I would imagine that he's very angry and more determined than ever to keep going. | ||
| Final question, Christina, and we deeply appreciate you reacting to this live news and giving us these insights. | ||
| Donald Trump's effectively a political prisoner now, a la Nelson Mandela. | ||
| Are you going to run on that from the RNC? | ||
| It seems, based on what I know about Americans, you're not allowed to tell me who I can and cannot vote for. | ||
| There is a way that this may backfire really badly and cause Trump to win by even more. | ||
| People might want to vote for the guy in prison just because F you, right? | ||
| Like, F you, you can't tell me who I can and cannot vote for. | ||
| The thought process strategically from the RNC as you are the RNC's counsel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I'll allow the chairman to make the first statement on this. | ||
| I don't want to be the one to say a way forward without the chairman speaking on it first. | ||
| But I can say, you know, Donald Trump absolutely is our nominee. | ||
| And we're supporting him through whatever he's going through. | ||
| And certainly we support the American public's ability and willingness to vote for whoever they want. | ||
| I think it's important that... | ||
| People have that ability. | ||
| Certainly, you know, that's why they're doing this. | ||
| They're trying to rob the American people of the candidate of their choice. | ||
| So I stand firmly with Donald Trump. | ||
| I support him. | ||
| I'm not wavering. | ||
| And I think you're exactly right. | ||
| I think this is going to end up backfiring massively. | ||
| And I think he's going to end up winning in a landslide. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, from your mouth to God's ears, Christina Bob from the RNC, somebody who's such a fighter herself. | ||
| And we deeply, deeply appreciate your insights here. | ||
| Please go and secure this election and win. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| So ladies and gentlemen, we have a number of reactions again, pouring in from across social media, Vivek Ron Swami. | ||
| The prosecutor is a politician who promised to nail Trump. | ||
| The judge's daughter is a Democrat operative who literally raises money from the trial while her father presided over it. | ||
| The jury instructions said they didn't have to agree on a crime to convict. | ||
| This will backfire. | ||
| Tucker Carlson, ladies and gentlemen, jumping in in a very rare tweet from Tucker on X. Dead naming X, Twitter, whatever. | ||
| A post on X from Tucker Carlson, something he rarely does. | ||
| He posts videos but does not commentate like this. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| Import the third world, become the third world. | ||
| That's what we just saw. | ||
| This won't stop Trump. | ||
| He'll win the election if he's not killed first. | ||
| But it does mark the end of the fairest justice system in the world. | ||
| Anybody who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, these are the comments rolling in. | ||
| And, man, Fast and Furious and totally true there from Tucker. | ||
| What you're witnessing right now is the end of American justice. | ||
| They're maddening, these people. | ||
| They're proper villains. | ||
| They didn't build this place. | ||
| They're destroying it because they can't have permanent power because they know we hate him. | ||
| We hate them. | ||
| And so we choose somebody who's not among them, not among the political elites and those political classes to represent us to smash that system. | ||
| And so they assassinate him. | ||
| This is just a less messy Kennedy assassination is what's going on here. | ||
| It's Stalinist to its core. | ||
| It is anti-American. | ||
| What you're witnessing is the opposite of how this country was founded, but it does mark a dark day when Sovietism and the Soviet style of Marxism, Stalinist, has taken over the far left wing of the Democrat Party. | ||
| How can any Democrat ever support this? | ||
| How could anybody ever hold their head high and say they're voting for Joe Biden? | ||
| The malevolence, we call it Stalinist because the first act of Stalin, when he gained power through means that were illegitimate in the Soviet Union, was not supposed to be him in charge of the Soviet Union. | ||
| But between rigging and power brokering and straight murder, Joseph Stalin gains power and the first thing he does is impanel. | ||
| Juries and judges to execute all of his political enemies. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That red purge and red scare swept across the Soviet Union all the way down to the citizen. | ||
| It didn't stop with Stalin's political enemies. | ||
| They ran out of those quickly. | ||
| Stalin famously saying, show me the man, I'll show you the crime. | ||
| They just needed to have a reason or no reason at all. | ||
| Sometimes just fear was enough. | ||
| So who's going to stop it? | ||
| Is it going to be Jim Jordan? | ||
| Here's what Jim Jordan has to say. | ||
| This verdict is a travesty of justice. | ||
| The Manhattan Kangaroo Court shows what happens when our justice system is weaponized by partisan prosecutors in front of a biased judge with an unfair process designed to keep the President Trump off the campaign trail and avoid bringing attention to President Biden's radical policies. | ||
| Americans see through Democrats' lawfare tactics and know President Trump will be vindicated. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| Let's jump now, ladies and gentlemen, further to Ben Carson, who obviously served Donald Trump for four years in the White House as his HUD director, Housing and Urban Development. | ||
| The judicial system has been weaponized to go after presidents for political gain. | ||
| Imagine what they could do to you. | ||
| We, the people, stand against this in November. | ||
| God be with President Trump. | ||
| We were with him all the way to saving the country. | ||
| You're going to get very tired of this, and I can understand it. | ||
| Every election, people go, vote for it like your life depends on it. | ||
| But actually, yes, this time. | ||
| I know it's so overused and so overtread. | ||
| Vote for it like your life depends on it. | ||
| This is the most important election of your lifetime. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Actually, this time, yes, it is. | ||
| Actually, yes. | ||
| Ron DeSantis, who just had a very bloody battle with Donald Trump, who has not sounded off on this case at all, to be quite honest with you. | ||
| Ron DeSantis, who did not sound off on this case, coming in very strong here and saying this. | ||
| Today's verdict represents the culmination of a legal process that has been bent to the political will of the actors involved, a leftist prosecutor, partisan judge, a jury reflective of one of the most liberal enclaves in America, all in an effort to get Trump. | ||
| That this case involving alleged misdemeanor business record violations from nearly a decade ago was even brought is a testament to the political debasement of the justice system in places like New York City. | ||
| This is especially true considering the same district attorney routinely excuses criminal conduct in a way that has endangered law-abiding citizens and jurisdiction. | ||
| Completely correct. | ||
| It is often said that nobody is above the law, but it is also true that no one is below the law. | ||
| If the defendant were not Donald Trump, this case would have never been brought. | ||
| The judge would have never issued similar rulings. | ||
| The judge would have never returned a guilty verdict. | ||
| In America, the rule of law should be applied in a dispassionate, even-handed manner. | ||
| And not become captive to the political agenda of some kangaroo court. | ||
| Strong commentary there from Ron DeSantis, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So we have some very strong commentary from some of our favorite political commentators. | ||
| Judge Jeanine is absolutely livid. | ||
| On Fox News, she's a strong ally and defender of Donald Trump. | ||
| And actually, this is why I think it's particularly interesting with Judge Janine. | ||
| She was a court in this same system. | ||
| She was a judge in the same system, the same courtroom. | ||
| Judge Janine is from this courthouse and from this courtroom. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, as we await Brett Tolman, former federal prosecutor in Kash Patel, please have a listen to Judge Janine absolutely going flamethrower fest. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Wrong here. | ||
| We have gone over a cliff in America. | ||
| This verdict is a verdict of someone who was forced to fight a 1,000-pound gorilla with both hands tied behind his back. | ||
| This was a defendant for whom crimes were created, against whom a judge was picked out of the ordinary, not from the drum, but a judge who was handpicked for this defendant, who denied him the ability to... | ||
| fight the way he needed to fight, who brought in crimes that we've never heard of in New York before, where they had dead misdemeanors that they resurrected into felonies based upon non-unanimous verdicts of crimes that are federal over which no state court or no state judge or prosecutor has jurisdiction. | ||
| And in the end, with all the smoke and meat, And a hooker and a guy, according to a federal judge, Which is a serial perjurer. | ||
| We have convicted a former president of the United States of America. | ||
| We've gone over a clip. | ||
| The question is to whether or not America will react to this, whether his numbers will go up or down, I don't know. | ||
| But I do know what I know. | ||
| And what I know is that this case is riddled with errors. | ||
| It is reversible. | ||
| It will not get through to the appellate division and the first department in New York or certainly the Court of Appeals before the next year. | ||
| And people say, should it go to the Supreme Court? | ||
| No, it can't go to the Supreme Court unless they exhaust all of the state court appeals. | ||
| I've spent 32 years in this system, and I am totally disillusioned. | ||
| You had a judge and you had a DA who literally campaigned on making sure that this president would be indicted. | ||
| We've got an attorney general who did the same thing. | ||
| This is a new era in America. | ||
| It goes against the ilk of who we are as Americans and our faith in the criminal justice system. | ||
| So if you're just joining us. | ||
| I believe that this is probably the most fruitful line of questioning right now, which is people who have worked inside this system, have they lost all faith? | ||
| Judge Jeanine, who was a judge in that same courthouse that Donald Trump was in today, said, I've lost all faith in the system. | ||
| Well, you are the judge. | ||
| Somebody who's been a prosecutor for the federal government, somebody who has done an enormous amount of work inside of the DOJ. | ||
| Has Kash Patel lost all faith in this system? | ||
| Joining us now, Cash. | ||
| Faith in the system, Kash? | ||
| I think people are just over it. | ||
| I think you're really running up against like a constitutional crisis here. | ||
| I would tell you that I have lost faith in the system if we did not have Donald Trump as our warrior. | ||
| With him leading the charge, I can get behind that. | ||
| And I think everyday Americans are already getting behind that. | ||
| They have this entire summer during this Biden rigged trial. | ||
| And now people are seeing. | ||
| The quickness and the haste and the injustices committed against President Trump were specifically done for election rigging purposes and not lawful constitutional purposes. | ||
| And I speak to America not as more of a former federal prosecutor, but I was a federal public defender. | ||
| Tons of time trying cases in state and federal court defending the worst of the worst. | ||
| I want to know where the public defender community is. | ||
| Where is the ACLU and the warriors of due process? | ||
| They have been silent, and I bet you they're cheering right now because Donald Trump has been convicted. | ||
| I would put up an operation outside of every ACLU-style office and ask them why they didn't come to the aid of the Constitution, as they're supposed to do, and ask every single public defender. | ||
| Why they are willing to lie to the American public and call this a just verdict. | ||
| And I think when you start pounding on them and calling out their hypocrisy and following Donald Trump, it's going to be a long road to restoring justice. | ||
| And it's going to be a tough one. | ||
| And if we didn't have him, I would tell you we've lost it. | ||
| But we still got a shot. | ||
| Yeah, you have to... | ||
| If you go to an NFL game, you have to assume that the game isn't rigged completely. | ||
| And that Roger Goodell hasn't decided that the Patriots are going to lose. | ||
| You have to assume that to get people in the stands, to get people to pay for the ticket. | ||
| But people are stopping paying for the ticket. | ||
| The illusion of a fair justice system has just evaporated. | ||
| Tucker Carlson just said, I mean, this is the end of the best justice system that man has ever known. | ||
| Do you agree with Tucker? | ||
| Yeah, just put a pin on everything else and say, hold for a second. | ||
| Does everyday America have faith in the criminal justice system of the United States of America? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the answer to that now is going to be overwhelmingly no. | ||
| And the answer to that question, even in the hateful, liberal, radical left-wing circles, is quietly no. | ||
| Do they know the precedent they just set that if Donald Trump is to win office? | ||
| Do they know the precedent that, of course, we would never continue this style of tyrannical justice, but they have just recorded in the history books of America an unlawful judicial system to wipe out a political opponent and his movement. | ||
| That was authored by the Democrats and Biden. | ||
| Are they going to abide by that authoritarian view of the justice system? | ||
| I think I agree with Tucker on this one, that the confidence has been shot. | ||
| While the confidence may have been shot across the board and the justice system, I think it has delivered what I would say is a renewed vigor and intention to see it course-corrected behind Donald Trump. | ||
| If people were ticked off before this trial, during this trial, now they see that they're coming for everybody in America. | ||
| And I think Americans are going to work hard to make sure we can fix it. | ||
| It seems like the soft coup that began rolling during Trump's first term has now turned into a hard coup. | ||
| And the goal will be to prevent Donald Trump from campaigning. | ||
| Where do you see it going from here? | ||
| Just as of note, breaking news, the sentencing is going to be on July 11th. | ||
| That's four days before the convention, Cash. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| What did you expect? | ||
| Now, look, this is a... | ||
| You have to understand, for purposes of sentencing, you look at criminal history, priors, and whether or not these were violent criminals that he was charged with, violent criminal acts. | ||
| And it's O for everything across the board. | ||
| Donald Trump has no criminal history. | ||
| These charges, putting aside that they're bogus, are nonviolent bookkeeping charges. | ||
| And so what would normally happen at this type of sentencing is that there would be a probationary sentence issued. | ||
| And because of the amount of legal issues created by this judge and Alvin Bragg... | ||
| Any normal jurist, anyone who cared about the Constitution would say, whatever the sentence is, you, Mr. President, are staying out of custody pending appeal so that the courts of law can decide whether or not this trial was adjudicated correctly. | ||
| And so, of course, they pick a timing right before it because they want to hammer the political process. | ||
| The interesting thing will be, is this judge going to take Donald Trump into custody four days before the Republican National Convention where you and I will be at? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you talk about people caring about the Constitution there. | ||
| The Constitution states that, of course, the president cannot be bound or limited by these systems. | ||
| That would mean, effectively, that Juan Mershon is more powerful than the president, right? | ||
| Which is what they're trying to prove here. | ||
| Trying to prove that Juan Mershon has more power, or the system that he represents, the system that's running him and enriching his daughter and saying, do what we want and you'll get a lot of money, that that system is more powerful than the president of the United States. | ||
| That's not how our country works. | ||
| No. | ||
| And so the way to actually unshackle Donald Trump would be to elect him president. | ||
| No? | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| And I think that's, look, my phone, I'm sure like yours, has been blowing up as soon as the verdict came in, saying they're scared for the future of our country, they're scared for the justice system, they're scared for Donald Trump because he's put so much on the line to defend them all these last 8-10 years. | ||
| But I think the resounding motivating factor going forward that's going to be cohesive rather than disruptive is the fact that we need someone like a Donald Trump and only Donald Trump to make America the way it's supposed to be, a constitution. | ||
| I would call this a banana republic, but that would be paying a compliment to Judge Marchand and the Alvin Bragg Biden prosecutorial team. | ||
| This wouldn't even happen in places like Venezuela and sub-Saharan Africa. | ||
| We, the United States of America, are no longer in a position to critique other jurisdictions and justice systems around the world after the verdict that was handed down today because it is the most unconstitutional, unlawful verdict, not just in U.S. history. | ||
| But literally in the U.S. worldwide global history, I've never seen anything like this. | ||
| You make such a great point. | ||
| We've lost all moral high ground, all of it. | ||
| There used to be some type of like shining city on a hill. | ||
| I'm a Reagan kid, right? | ||
| I know you were probably too. | ||
| You know, there used to be this sort of picture of America. | ||
| It's gone now. | ||
| It's so sad. | ||
| Actually. | ||
| So you have advised Donald Trump. | ||
| You're very close to Donald Trump. | ||
| You've held high positions of authority inside of his administration and presumably would hold more of those positions if you so accepted in a second term. | ||
| To finish out here, Cash, what would you advise the president to do to end this? | ||
| Because the reality is, I don't want to see this happen. | ||
| Even to, like, the worst of the worst. | ||
| I like... | ||
| I don't want to see a system where if you announce you're running for president, you immediately go to prison, right? | ||
| Like, I don't, I don't want that. | ||
| And it's hard to say because I think Hillary Clinton belongs in jail. | ||
| And I think Bill Clinton belongs in jail. | ||
| And I think they all belong in Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| The Bidens belong in Guantanamo. | ||
| Like, but I, there's like something so rendering of the fabric of this country to have that happen. | ||
| How do you stop? | ||
| How do you stop this cycle? | ||
| You do one thing. | ||
| You elect Donald Trump president and ask him to follow the Constitution. | ||
| And that's exactly what he's done. | ||
| That's exactly how he's campaigned. | ||
| That's exactly what he's done. | ||
| And that's been his tool to expose the corrupt system that's been highlighted in Georgia, in Florida, in Washington, in New York, in Arizona, and elsewhere. | ||
| And the advice that I would give him, I'll happily tell it to your audience right now, is you have been our juggernaut of justice. | ||
| You have followed the Constitution. | ||
| When it has been difficult and when it hasn't been easy, And every time in between. | ||
| And you have followed and applied that constitution to every single American of race, creed, or color. | ||
| You have never taken that into consideration. | ||
| And we need you, Donald Trump, to not bend the knee and to go forth with just as much vigor, if not more, for the American people and deliver that message that the constitutional republic that is the United States will be saved by Donald Trump, who will run on the constitution. | ||
| He has done that. | ||
| And I think, and I believe, he will continue to do that and win over a greater swath of not just the American electorate, but the world. | ||
| Europe's looking over here saying, that is not a criminal justice system we ever want to import over here. | ||
| And that should tell you everything you need to know, since they are basically socialistic Democrats over there who do weaponize justice. | ||
| But here, we've taken it to another level. | ||
| Yeah, Vladimir Putin is so evil! | ||
| He invades countries. | ||
| He locks up his political opponents. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He rigs elections. | ||
| It's so bad. | ||
| He has people murdered that he doesn't like. | ||
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Can I just say one thing? | |
| Where are all the constitutional due process leftists going to be next week when the current president's son goes on trial for guns, drugs, and tax evasion? | ||
| Where are they going to be? | ||
| When he starts trial on Monday, we will see the hypocrisy of their ways immediately starting Monday. | ||
| Everybody should be watching the Biden trial and what an actual prosecution should look like and what an actual judge should conduct himself with. | ||
| And then ask those hypocrites on the left, how come they didn't apply that same standard that they're going to be chirping about about Joe Biden's kid to Donald Trump? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we pray Godspeed, Cash, and we really need you to be... | ||
| We really need you to have a DOJ, pal. | ||
| And I know that Trump's a lot wiser, and they're a lot smarter, and they understand their friends and their enemies a lot better this time around. | ||
| I think that this will make Donald Trump... | ||
| I think Donald Trump will win by a larger landslide because of this. | ||
| But we need fighters. | ||
| So fight with Cash, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Ensure that... | ||
| Ensure that we have a movement that stays strong and marches together. | ||
| You can't defeat an army of happy warriors. | ||
| Kash Patel, you are one. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Thanks, Benny. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, there are people reporting that the donation page to Donald Trump has just crashed due to traffic, due to the enormous amount of traffic. | ||
| There are. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| Donald Trump's campaign website donation page is now 5-0-0. | ||
| It's not operational because too many people are trying to donate. | ||
| I think would probably call himself a small D Democrat, right? | ||
| Like as of up until like quite recently. | ||
| A sham trial designed for one purpose, to brand Donald Trump as a felon. | ||
| Watch Dems and the mainstream media endlessly repeat this word. | ||
| It does seem like a brand new hoax has been brought on the American people at the point of a gun. | ||
| Is there any faith left in the system? | ||
| We are certainly not doomers on this program, but we do want to listen to clear-eyed realists who have really been in the trenches with the Department of Justice and in criminal trials especially. | ||
| And that is why we're proud to bring on Brett Tolman, former federal prosecutor and the president, founder of Right on Crime, to sound off. | ||
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Right on Crime, to sound off. | |
| Brett, thank you so much for being on the program in this breaking news environment. | ||
| We need clarity here. | ||
| What does this mean for the judicial system? | ||
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Well, I think a couple of things. | |
| My first thought was, you know, finally he can get back out on the campaign trail. | ||
| So, you know, take the positive here, take the win, get out there, raise money, you know, put yourself in the crosshairs of the American people, you know, their frustration and reassure them. | ||
| I mean, what a golden opportunity. | ||
| There's such a high road to take by this president now because the low road has been filled with, you know, bad lawyers, bad judges, lawfare. | ||
| The use of the criminal justice system in a way we haven't seen. | ||
| And then the other observation I'll make before really analyzing the case, if you will, I think this is the moment where Republicans need to say to themselves, okay, we will finally play under the new rules, the game that has been now redefined by new rules. | ||
| They need to take the gloves off, they need to hit back, and they need to hit back hard. | ||
| What I mean by that is they need to prosecute their political enemies that have committed crimes. | ||
| Not their political enemies that have not committed crimes, but where you have the facts and the law to support it, where historically we may have not, you know, we may have shied away from prosecutions of, you know, political adversaries. | ||
| The game has changed, the rules have changed, and you better come out swinging or it will bury us and conservatives will be left holding the bag and they won't have an opportunity. | ||
| To get that punch, when you have a bully come up, you have to punch him in the nose. | ||
| And if you don't, you'll continue to be bullied day in, day out. | ||
| And I've seen it firsthand in the law, in life, and in elementary school. | ||
| What are your friends saying to you? | ||
| I assume you got 400,000 texts the moment this dropped. | ||
| You have this incredible legacy and you've tried so many criminal cases. | ||
| And so few would know what it's like to be inside of a trial like this more than you. | ||
| What does it say about our system? | ||
| Are we facing an actual constitutional crisis here? | ||
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Yeah, you know, I think we're facing a crisis that, you know, it does change the game, Benny. | |
| Everybody that reached out from those that are traumatized to in disbelief and angry and afraid. | ||
| Look, there's plenty of opportunity for us to save this country. | ||
| And I would say there are... | ||
| If we realistically look at this case, there never was an acquittal possible. | ||
| I predicted long ago, I thought that the hung jury was the overwhelming... | ||
| But when you have the judge that was leaning on the scales of justice from the beginning of opening arguments, actually before that, to his rulings on motions to exclude evidence, his rulings during the trial, his... | ||
| I mean, Benny, you know it's bad when the judge takes a different tone when speaking to the prosecution versus when he speaks to the defense in front of the jury. | ||
| All of that adds up. | ||
| It hits and it weighs in the minds of the jury, and then an instruction like they gave, the elimination of key evidence the defense wanted to put on. | ||
| It is almost impossible to get anything better than a hung jury in a case like this. | ||
| Look, we'll look our wounds. | ||
| This judge has considerable power now on July 11th. | ||
| He has the power to take Trump forthwith. | ||
| He can take him, put him in custody right then. | ||
| And he can do it for whatever period of time. | ||
| Now, you know, Kash Patel is accurate that there's a range of sentence that's supposed to be a range that the judge follows. | ||
| You know, the rules are out the window. | ||
| Who knows what this judge will do? | ||
| I predict that he will give him some jail time. | ||
| I think he will fine him. | ||
| He'll give him a stern lecture and then he'll promptly plan his retirement and a book deal. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So you believe that Donald Trump will face jail time? | ||
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I do. | |
| I think he is the perfect Hollywood scripted central casting judge that wants to do it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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So he has the power to do it. | |
| And he wants to do it. | ||
| So what's going to happen? | ||
| So there's your constitutional crisis, yes? | ||
| Because then you're shackling not just a presidential candidate. | ||
| That's bad enough. | ||
| This is the guy who's like, every poll shows him winning by a very large margin. | ||
| Some polls saying this could be a 100-point electoral college landslide. | ||
| You're going to put the guy in chains. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If those on the Democrat side that are thinking rationally, Get to this judge. | ||
| They're going to say, please don't do that. | ||
| Let's not make a bigger martyr out of him than he is now. | ||
| And if he doesn't put him in jail, that'll be the reason why. | ||
| But judges love to put people they don't like in jail. | ||
| It's the ultimate power trip. | ||
| But doesn't that, again, this goes to the point, what hope is there for anybody? | ||
| All that's needed is a rigged judge and a rigged jury, and it doesn't matter the crime. | ||
| Show me the man. | ||
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Yeah, that's exactly right. | |
| And I said at the very beginning of this, throw out all the evidence, throw out all the, you know, everything that we are, you know, all the legal analysts are going to be scrutinizing. | ||
| Just think about whether the jury likes a particular witness or whether they like the defendant. | ||
| If they do not like the defendant, they are going to convict and they're not going to be, we don't put the most intelligent on jurors. | ||
| Juries are notoriously filled. | ||
| You know, we had a couple lawyers on this, but you have New Yorkers that are predominantly opposed to this particular defendant. | ||
| And so, you know, that's what you're dealing with. | ||
| Let's get beyond it. | ||
| Let's move. | ||
| There's a reason why the founders of the Constitution said you can run for president and be a felon. | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| They were all felons. | ||
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Right? | |
| Half of them went to jail during the Revolutionary War. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Johnny Cash sold more records, so did Tupac after their mug shots. | ||
| And a lot of people went and saw Iron Man and The Avengers and Robert Downey Jr.'s big time fella. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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We'll see. | |
| Yeah, we'll see. | ||
| Really quickly, Brett, how do you prevent this? | ||
| Nobody wants this to be the norm? | ||
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Yeah, that's why I think you have to actually punch them back. | |
| Until they realize, oh, we might be susceptible to the same game plan, then they'll continue to do it. | ||
| There's no question in my mind they'll continue to do it. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So at this point, Republicans with balls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You have to do it. | ||
| You have to be the one that prosecutes Hillary for destruction of evidence and national security classified documents violations. | ||
| You have to be the ones that are willing to go after, you know, the politician or the the, you know, the liberal left leaning. | ||
| There's so much corruption on in this country that we could prosecute and we need the prosecutors to step up and do it. | ||
| Well, I look forward to you being the first special counsel appointment from the president. | ||
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Thanks, Benny. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I hear beards are very popular for special counsel. | ||
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Yes, they are. | |
| All right. | ||
| All right, Brett. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| Outro Music Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who ran for president against Joe Biden as a Democrat, Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| Somebody who joined us on this program last week to talk about these very issues. | ||
| Biden, guilty of abuse of power. | ||
| Biden, guilty of turning our country into a banana republic. | ||
| Can we stop using banana republic, please? | ||
| Can we just stop with the banana republic? | ||
| It's come up with a better term. | ||
| Stalinist is a better term. | ||
| Stalinist, Marxist, fascistic hellscape would be better. | ||
| Banana republic almost sounds like a pair of pants I'd like to wear, a shirt I'd like to wear. | ||
| Those in power use... | ||
| The law to go after their political opponents. | ||
| Biden guilty of undermining our Constitution and freedoms guaranteed therein. | ||
| Biden has proven he's unfit for the office of the presidency. | ||
| And just seconds ago, Joe Biden releasing a campaign statement. | ||
| That's right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| In case you're wondering if the Biden campaign is behind all this, they just released a fundraising email. | ||
| Please give us more money, they said. | ||
| Donate here! | ||
| Help us keep Donald Trump in prison. | ||
| Keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office, is what they say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Help keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office. | ||
| Lena Hava saying this is an atrocity. | ||
| Pray for our nation. | ||
| We deeply believe in prayer here, and that we shall do. | ||
| The Biden-Harris campaign statement on today's verdict, also out. | ||
| It is exactly what you think it is. | ||
| In New York today, we saw that nobody's above the law. | ||
| Oh, got it. | ||
| Why isn't Hunter Biden in prison? | ||
| Donald Trump is always mistakenly... | ||
| Why isn't Joe Biden in prison? | ||
| Joe Biden has handled classified documents. | ||
| The DOJ said so, yet they refuse to charge him. | ||
| Donald Trump always mistakenly believed that he would never face consequences for breaking the law for his own personal gain. | ||
| Today's verdict does not change the fact that the American people face a simple reality. | ||
| There's only one way to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office at the ballot box. | ||
| Convicted felon or not. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Trump will be the Republican nominee for president. | ||
| Convicted felon or not. | ||
| Hot damn! | ||
| There's gonna be some... | ||
| There's gonna be some major viewership for the... | ||
| Biden-Donald Trump debates. | ||
| The stakes could never be higher. | ||
| Mike Davis saying, today's verdict from a partisan, corrupt, and rigged trial just guarantee Donald Trump's landslide victory on November 5th, 2024. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Davis sounding off, dear friend of the show, really smart and wise and was on earlier with us. | ||
| And from your mouth, God's ears, Mike, also sounding off. | ||
| Because why not? | ||
| Let's just go in. | ||
| Is Alex Jones, who just released a video on this. | ||
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| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Apparently we're... | ||
| We do not have that loaded and ready. | ||
| We apologize. | ||
| It is a breaking news... | ||
| We have a big production stack here, and it's a breaking news environment, and it takes us a second to load. | ||
| We have some major announcements, though. | ||
| Some of the reactions here are crazy. | ||
| Jonathan Turley from Fox News reacting from inside of the courthouse. | ||
| This is something we haven't heard yet. | ||
| Jonathan Turley from Fox News inside of the courthouse. | ||
| What was the reaction like? | ||
| What was Donald Trump like? | ||
| How did Donald Trump react? | ||
| We had Donald Trump's comments live. | ||
| What was it like inside? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| All right, Judge, I want to bring in Professor Jonathan Turley, who has been in the courtroom today. | ||
| So you're fresh out of there. | ||
| Can you give us any of the flavor? | ||
| Because when we thought that the court was going to break for the day, it seems like President Trump and his team seemed relaxed, that he was smiling. | ||
| Maybe they thought, OK, this jury is still struggling. | ||
| They're going to leave tonight not having made a decision. | ||
| Then we get word that verdict is coming in. | ||
| What can you tell us about the mood inside the courthouse? | ||
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It was one of the most bizarre moments I've had in a courtroom, and I was just observing. | |
| The judge had just said that the jury could not reach a decision and that we would be dismissed for the day. | ||
| Some reporters actually gathered their stuff and were starting to leave. | ||
| And then the judge came and basically said, my mistake. | ||
| We just got a note saying there's a verdict. | ||
| Throughout this time, you could feel the building pressure in that courtroom. | ||
| The one person that didn't seem to register it was the former president. | ||
| He had been chatting with counsel. | ||
| He didn't show any emotion at all as this mantra of guilty verdicts was read. | ||
| I think that this is one of those things that really embodies the entire Trump era. | ||
| There were people who clearly were thrilled by the result, and there were people that will be very sad by it. | ||
| I was saddened to watch it. | ||
| I disagree with this verdict. | ||
| I think, as I've said before, that this case was legally unfounded. | ||
| When they were reading those guilty verdicts, the one thing that we didn't know... | ||
| Is really what he was found guilty of. | ||
| Because if you remember, the judge allowed the jury to find guilt on any one of three secondary crimes. | ||
| We weren't told whether the jury found any one of those crimes, whether they found all three of those crimes. | ||
| I'm not too sure we will know that. | ||
| That's one of the many issues that I think presents reversible problems in this case. | ||
| So what I would say is that this is a historic moment. | ||
| We all have to take a breath. | ||
| But for those upset by this verdict, remember this remains a country committed to the rule of law. | ||
| And this is going to go up on appeal. | ||
| I think it's going to be reversed in the state or federal systems. | ||
| But it's moments like this when you're on the other side, when you disagree with a verdict, that you have to take a leap of faith in the rule of law. | ||
| It's what defines us. | ||
| Many people feel that this case really embodied the antithesis of that. | ||
| But as a country as a whole, we have a system in place to review this. | ||
| For Donald Trump, that's not going to happen before the election in all likelihood. | ||
| But let's keep in mind that this is not the only court. | ||
| It's just the first one. | ||
| Just sickening. | ||
| It is sickening. | ||
| I mean, I guess you, I guess you, there's no way to spin it that this is some awesome result. | ||
| It is a predictable result. | ||
| It is a result that will seemingly galvanize people to Donald Trump. | ||
| I can't imagine anybody who would be celebrating this other than people who already viscerally loathe Trump and are squealing at the burning embers. | ||
| The ashes of civilization that once was a republic. | ||
| Not exactly sure what it is right now. | ||
| An oligarchy? | ||
| Something like a soft fascism? | ||
| I mean, if you can do this to a guy because you don't like the color of his skin because he's orange, you don't like the cut of his jib because he threatens your power, if you can just put him in jail for nothing? | ||
| Nobody's even sure what the charges were? | ||
| It is sickening. | ||
| And it's exactly what Fox News was calling it. | ||
| Pretty charged language here for Fox, that's for certain. | ||
| A sickening result, ladies and gentlemen, from McCarthy. | ||
| Let's look. | ||
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| Whatever you think of the results, it's inconceivable in New York that anyone else other than Donald Trump would ever been indicted in this way by Alvin Bragg, the elected progressive Democratic district attorney who campaigned on the fact that he would go after Donald Trump, that he had a history of going after Donald Trump. | ||
| This is a very political exercise, and you have to say that it accomplished what it set out to accomplish. | ||
| What they wanted was to have a situation where they could call Donald Trump a convicted felon in the run-up to the election. | ||
| We have an elected Democrat who got that accomplished. | ||
| He got a very friendly judge who ruled his way on every important thing and turned the into a roadmap to conviction. | ||
| So now I assume with the mission having been accomplished, we'll have more procedural regularity, Shannon. | ||
| As you just said, there'll be a pre-sentence investigation. | ||
| There should be a sentencing scheduled, and we'll go from there. | ||
| But this case will be appealed, and I hope that there'll be more fairness and equity in the appeal than there was in the trial. | ||
| So, we'll see. | ||
| Never surrender. | ||
| Stay focused. | ||
| God help America, and wow, sentencing Donald Trump on July 11th, four days before the National Convention. | ||
| This cuts against our esprit de corps on this show, because we're consummate clear-eyed optimists, but It's hard to see how this is good for you to have a functional country. | ||
| You have to have some shared faith and some shared trust in institutions and systems in this nation. | ||
| And it's hard to not see that faith completely atomized in a moment like this. | ||
| How do you put a president in prison for bookkeeping records? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's what you found. | ||
| You've been promising you'll put Donald Trump in jail, that he's a traitor. | ||
| And that he's an insurrectionist. | ||
| And that he's, you know, a Russian asset. | ||
| That he's Vladimir Putin. | ||
| He's literally run by Vladimir Putin. | ||
| That's what you told people. | ||
| And I guess when you sell them that bill of goods, the ends justify the means. | ||
| Because you've psychologically broken people so much that you have to put them in prison then. | ||
| Brett Tolman said he thinks Donald Trump's going to go to jail. | ||
| You ready for that? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| First time I've heard that, but Brett Tolman's a really wise man. | ||
| And we've seen him make some... | ||
| Really strong predictions and they all come true. | ||
| So what are they going to do? | ||
| They're going to lock up their political opponent. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That means the American experiment as we know it, the best experiment in governance and self-governance ever is done. | ||
| It'll change forever. | ||
| It's not over. | ||
| The country is not over as we know it, but it changes forever. | ||
| Starting that today, actually. | ||
| And so this is what we stare down the barrel of. | ||
| What kind of country do you want to live in? | ||
| Do you want to live in a country like this? | ||
| Where there's a superstructure and a power structure that can just take away your freedom? | ||
| Like that? | ||
| And I guess you saw it during COVID. | ||
| You already saw sort of the groundwork of this and the soft coup that rolled into Donald Trump's first term. | ||
| Hatched by Barack Obama. | ||
| Where all of this, where this crisis truly began. | ||
| Secret meetings to spy on Trump. | ||
| To launch hoaxes and conspiracies against him? | ||
| To impeach him in his first few months as president? | ||
| This is where it all began. | ||
| And so, remember the Comey rule? | ||
| Where we don't investigate or open investigations into presidential candidates? | ||
| Where the hell is that? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| So here we are. | ||
| Will this hurt or harm Donald Trump? | ||
| Well, let's go to the Trump campaign for reaction. | ||
| Uh, you have, uh, their official reaction is an ad that was cut today in what was presumably, what will presumably be, uh, the official messaging of this. | ||
| You can tell sort of in the ad that they were, you have to assume that if the Trump campaign was released this ad before the verdict, that they were preparing for a guilty verdict. | ||
| Uh, watch and you decide. | ||
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We're reaching the top. | |
| We know what it takes to be reaching the top. | ||
| Lower the lights down. | ||
| Hand over my crown. | ||
| Hand over my heart. | ||
| I do this for my town. | ||
| I do this for my crowd. | ||
| So turn me up real loud. | ||
| My time. | ||
| My time. | ||
| None of you people can tell me to stop. | ||
| Turning the track up. | ||
| I'll never go back down. | ||
| Hand over my heart. | ||
| I do this for my That's the ad if you're looking for if you're looking for what this is if you're looking for what this is going to | ||
| If you're looking for what this is going to result in, ladies and gentlemen, that's the messaging. | ||
| That's the messaging. | ||
| The messaging is Donald Trump triumphant and ready to fight. | ||
| Donald Trump walking into the arena. | ||
| The show's called in the arena. | ||
| Donald Trump walking into the arena. | ||
| Do you wish to be in the arena? | ||
| We are seeing reports from all across social media that the Trump campaign donation website has crashed. | ||
| Some people saying that they're donating millions of dollars to Trump. | ||
| Some people saying that they're donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to Trump today. | ||
| From all across the political landscape, a lot of people, Democrats or independent-minded people, saying that this is what they've decided. | ||
| This was it. | ||
| This was where you broke them. | ||
| Dan Scavino, who is the digital mouthpiece for Donald Trump, saying, WinRed is down due to overwhelming amount of support out there all across America. | ||
| Stay strong and thank you. | ||
| The site will be up and running very soon. | ||
| DonaldJTrump.com You can see Dan Scavino there effectively confirming. | ||
| That there is just far too much traffic. | ||
| I'm clicking on the link right now and that there's nothing. | ||
| It's an error link and there's too many donations rolling in. | ||
| Again, independent-minded people and Democrats and non-political people are saying that they're donating hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars to Trump right now, all across social media. | ||
| Will this backfire? | ||
| We do our very best to show you what's going... | ||
| What's going on throughout the chattering classes and ecosystem. | ||
| And so let's go to MSNBC. | ||
| How are they actually covering all of this? | ||
| They have to say, we've said this many times, that evil doesn't care about any, they don't care about you, it doesn't care about... | ||
| This nation, it just cares about power and whether they are in control of power. | ||
| And so evil will do anything. | ||
| They'll rule. | ||
| They'll burn a nation to ashes and then rule over the ashes. | ||
| That is the nature of evil. | ||
| And so be extremely cautious when you hear somebody celebrating this. | ||
| Bringing the nation to ashes. | ||
| Burning the nation to ashes for the pursuit of power. | ||
| You have found your evil. | ||
| A reminder that Donald Trump didn't prosecute Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Now, in hindsight, seeming like a horrible miscalculation. | ||
| Because he thought it'd be bad for America. | ||
| He said this many times. | ||
| It'd be bad for America. | ||
| Politician to prosecute his political enemy. | ||
| Here's how MSMAC is reacting. | ||
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And he was served this. | |
| Accountability today, he is now a convicted felon in his one-time home state of New York. | ||
| And he's been convicted of 34 felonies. | ||
| And he is not just a former president. | ||
| He is the Republican Party's nominee for president. | ||
| I will go back to a point I made earlier, which is that I think the Republican Party... | ||
| Has a decision to make now as to whether or not it is okay to be convicted of 34 felonies and still hold the nomination of that party for the presidency. | ||
| He is the presumptive nominee. | ||
| He is not the official nominee of that party. | ||
| They can choose somebody else at this point. | ||
| And if these felony convictions mean what they have always meant for everybody else in U.S. history who has encountered the criminal justice system while they were also standing for political office, the Republican Party will take that seriously. | ||
| and may reconsider that matter. | ||
| Can I ask you a question about that? | ||
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Yes, please. | |
| I mean, on... | ||
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So... | |
| So, here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| The official response from Donald Trump on his Truth Social, something that we've seen before. | ||
| The official response of Donald Trump, the first thing that Donald Trump has posted since this conviction. | ||
| Posted just seconds ago. | ||
| We'll get it loaded up for you here. | ||
| Gloating. | ||
| I think gloating. | ||
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Joy. | |
| Squeeing giddiness from MSNBC. | ||
| Can barely keep it in their pants. | ||
| Whatever's down there. | ||
| If anything. | ||
| Just absolutely slobbering over the words convicted felon. | ||
| So get ready to own those words, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Get ready to own those words, convicted felon. | ||
| This is what the angle was in the first place, just to smear Donald Trump. | ||
| It's a wrap-up smear. | ||
| So we have Donald Trump's official reaction posted on Truth Social. | ||
| ALX says it's in testing, but I want to... | ||
| Obviously, get to that in this breaking news environment. | ||
| There's a lot of gloating going on on the left. | ||
| You're going to see that. | ||
| My prediction is that the polls will swing in Trump's favor after this. | ||
| I do believe that. | ||
| My prediction is that there's going to be an enormous number of people leaving New York. | ||
| Democrats don't want to live under this. | ||
| Nobody wants to live under the system. | ||
| The system will turn on you. | ||
| You can see how it worked in the Soviet Union. | ||
| That Stalin didn't stop at his direct political enemies. | ||
| He went immediately to the people. | ||
| And so expect that. | ||
| The state of New York is done forever. | ||
| The state of New York, no one, no one will keep their businesses in New York. | ||
| Imagine the precedent that you're setting. | ||
| Step back for a moment about politics. | ||
| Imagine the precedent that you're setting right now for... | ||
| People who have businesses. | ||
| It's just wild. | ||
| So here we go, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Donald Trump's reaction posted on Truth Social, pretty poignant video that doesn't have any words to it, but does have some pretty, some iconography that you will recognize. | ||
| Let's go, baby. | ||
| This is the final battle. | ||
| With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state. | ||
| We will expel the warmongers from our... | ||
| We're going to load this so that it plays correctly. | ||
| Just give us a moment here. | ||
| Again, we are in a breaking news environment. | ||
| This is our seven and a half... | ||
| This is our seven hour and 30 minute mark being live. | ||
| So, let's go. | ||
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Final battle. | |
| With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state. | ||
| We will expel the warmongers from our government. | ||
| We will drive out the globalists. | ||
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We will cast out the communists, Marxists and fascists. | |
| We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. | ||
| We will rout the fake news media and we will liberate America from these villains once and for all. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, this is the first official Donald Trump authoritative reaction. | ||
| Donald Trump on the revenge tour, it looks like. | ||
| It looks like that's what we are going to see next. | ||
| Donald Trump not broken by this. | ||
| You can see here's the first official footage of Donald Trump leaving. | ||
| The courthouse. | ||
| We see Trump walking out of the courthouse here and heading to his vehicle with his team. | ||
| Donald Trump also out front of Trump Tower seconds ago at the end of this. | ||
| We don't have a shot of Donald Trump obviously driving. | ||
| Through Manhattan, we have Donald Trump outside of his home in New York. | ||
| Outside of Trump Tower in New York. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Speaker Mike Johnson is saying... | ||
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All right, let's listen in to see if we can hear anything at the Donald Trump there. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| This is Donald Trump. | ||
| Let's go back to the beginning of that and mute the clip, please. | ||
| Let's watch Donald Trump. | ||
| The fist pump. | ||
| The fist pump. | ||
| The clapping. | ||
| The thank you. | ||
| The smiling. | ||
| The pointing right down the barrel of the camera there. | ||
| And the official, resilient, defiant, which is actually what I'd call this. | ||
| From Donald Trump. | ||
| Defiant has been the mood. | ||
| That is what we've seen. | ||
| Defiance, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| The vast majority of Americans already believe that the attacks on Donald Trump are politically motivated. | ||
| This is not going to change that. | ||
| It's going to increase that. | ||
| 59% of Americans believe that Joe Biden is part of the weaponization of... | ||
| This is not going to change that, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| It's going to increase that. | ||
| And so now, Donald Trump, this is incredible. | ||
| Holy smokes. | ||
| This is remarkable. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Okay, so here's Donald Trump's official fundraising website. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Look at this image. | ||
| Donald Trump's official fundraising website, Political Prisoner, right now. | ||
| Political Prisoner. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| It looks like it's back up. | ||
| It crashed, and now it's back up. | ||
| Political Prisoner, Donald Trump. | ||
| I was just convicted in a rigged political witch hunt. | ||
| I did nothing wrong. | ||
| They've raided my home, arrested me, took my mugshot, and now they've just convicted me. | ||
| With your support, we'll make America great again. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
| We must make Joe Biden regret ever coming after us. | ||
| Donald Trump's going to break all political fundraising records. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Real quick here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Again, we are in a breaking news environment. | ||
| Byron Donald, my team is telling me that Byron Donald was on Fox and that it is a must-see and a must-play. | ||
| We've sort of wrapped up all of our reactions here. | ||
| If that's the case, then please send along, ALX. | ||
| Let's go ahead and get our reactions. | ||
| Get our final reactions in here as we have been live for seven and a half hours. | ||
| So here we go, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Our friend Byron Donald's reacting live on Fox. | ||
| You already see the fact that they are crooked. | ||
| They do not care about our institutions. | ||
| They just like to go on camera and say that they do. | ||
| They like to give sound bites and phrases about how they say that they do. | ||
| But what's really happening in America is that these crazy radical Democrats led by Joe Biden, they are getting rich on this system. | ||
| They are taking advantage of the working people of America in this system. | ||
| And then the media covers up for them while they give talking points about how they stand for the little guy. | ||
| That is a joke. | ||
| And the one president in the last 25 years, really 35 years, that has stood for the little guy is Donald J. Trump. | ||
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| Do you agree with that? | ||
| I sure as hell do. | ||
| I don't know how anybody could possibly agree with this. | ||
| In fact, it's amazing. | ||
| My feed is just filled. | ||
| With left-wingers. | ||
| I mean, this is crazy. | ||
| It's filled with left-wingers. | ||
| I mean, I know that there's going to be plenty of, there's going to be plenty of, like, brain-dead people who make a lot of money off this. | ||
| But the people who, like, Bill Ackman is not, Bill Ackman is not a right-wing dude. | ||
| He's not! | ||
| He's a Democrat donor. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| Bill Ackman, I think that any objective person would agree with Ron DeSantis here. | ||
| This is the Ron DeSantis post on X that we showed you. | ||
| Earlier. | ||
| We read the entire thing earlier, but it talks about the political debasement of our justice system in places like New York City. | ||
| It's a blow to the rule of law. | ||
| And that this is only happening because the man's name is Donald Trump. | ||
| Piers Morgan! | ||
| Piers Morgan is a... | ||
| Well, I mean, he's not even an American. | ||
| But he's somebody who many would consider left-wing on so many issues. | ||
| I deign to call him a leftist. | ||
| Piers Morgan! | ||
| This is a sad, shameful, and ridiculous day in America to drag a former president who's running for president again through criminal courts over something so trivial as fees. | ||
| So trivial feels like a massive overreach and incredibly divisive and obviously political partisan action. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Lee Zeldin just secured $800,000 donation. | ||
| From somebody for President Trump's Joint Fundraising Committee, I've never experienced a massive ask that easy, says Lee Zeldin, who is obviously working with and for Donald Trump and who ran for governor in New York. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Just an outpouring of support from Donald Trump. | ||
| People getting robbed in San Francisco. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Won't go to jail. | ||
| Donald Trump will go to jail. | ||
| Guy who does being robbed at gunpoint won't go to jail. | ||
| What Democrats did today in New York won't hurt Donald Trump. | ||
| It may even help him. | ||
| What Democrats hate has done to this country and rule of law is almost incomprehensibly dangerous. | ||
| All honest people must fight it. | ||
| Donald Trump posting an upside-down American flag. | ||
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| Wow. | ||
| After Biden's disastrous presidency, again, David Sachs, not a right-wing MAGA guy! | ||
| After Biden's disastrous presidency, Trump had a lot of supporters in Silicon Valley. | ||
| Many are just afraid to admit it. | ||
| But with each act of courage like this one, the dam begins to break. | ||
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| And ladies and gentlemen, this is America First Legal here with a country in crisis. | ||
| So what do we do now? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Well, if you don't like what happened to Donald Trump, there's this amazing special hack. | ||
| It's this special little tool. | ||
| That was provided to us by people that you and I have never met, but that we are related to. | ||
| We are the ancestors of them. | ||
| They are our founding fathers. | ||
| And they wrote this incredible document called the Constitution. | ||
| And it outlines the separation of powers. | ||
| And it outlines in Article 2 what the presidency is. | ||
| And the power that the president has. | ||
| And pretty awesome powers. | ||
| It's a lot of power. | ||
| And it's gained far too much power in our modern day, but nonetheless. | ||
| If you don't like what happened to Donald Trump today, and if you don't like this system, then the way to get rid of it is actually to elect Donald Trump. | ||
| That's actually the fix. | ||
| The fix is you vote for Trump. | ||
| You can't have a president in prison, obviously. | ||
| There actually constitutionally must be no limits on the president or his power or his capacity. | ||
| There cannot be. | ||
| That's why you can't sue a president. | ||
| It's a good example. | ||
| Or if you wish to ever bring anything against a president, it must come from a co-equal branch, like an impeachment. | ||
| And the process there is laid out very explicitly. | ||
| So it's our founders who put the system together and who now call to us from the hollowed halls of this nation and what it stands for, stood for, or may stand for again, from the halls of justice and the marble hallways and the monuments, cemeteries. | ||
| And call to us to say, okay, you don't like what happened. | ||
| Elect this guy. | ||
| Elect him. | ||
| Certainly wouldn't be the first world leader who won from prison. | ||
| Nelson Mandela, you could argue, is like most popular, one of the most well-known world leaders in history. | ||
| Donald Trump said many times he wishes to run for president from jail. | ||
| Well, we may well get that. | ||
| You only want to elect somebody who's willing to die for their country and willing to Be truly America first. | ||
| And that's what this is. | ||
| This would have never happened to Donald Trump if he decided to not run for re-election. | ||
| The only reason this is happening is because Donald Trump will win again in 2024. | ||
| And they know that. | ||
| I think they would have wiped the table with anybody else who ran in 2024. | ||
| And I know a number of presidential candidates who ran in 2024. | ||
| Donald Trump was the existential threat. | ||
| Donald Trump is the man who remakes the map and who changes everything. | ||
| And so now, ladies and gentlemen, this is our moment. | ||
| Follow the Constitution. | ||
| Elect this man president. | ||
| Rid him of any shackles. | ||
| Give him the power to correct the system, to appoint a special prosecutor, and to follow a criminal referral from J.D. Vance to look into a... | ||
| Criminal conspiracy to defraud the American people of their vote in the election. | ||
| This is what must happen. | ||
| And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the path forward. | ||
| If you wish to be inspired, then here we have, in closing, the footage of Donald Trump rolling through New York City. | ||
| Pretty remarkable. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
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The legal system, the media. | |
| Here we go, Klein. | ||
| There you go, buddy. | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| You've been working pretty hard today, man. | ||
| This is Donald Trump rolling through New York City. | ||
| These are the images of Trump at Trump Tower. | ||
| Donald Trump greeted by... | ||
| Zoom in there. | ||
| You can see the people across the street. | ||
| Donald Trump greeted by what is a... | ||
| Mass of people on the sidewalk, standing, cheering, in the middle of Manhattan. | ||
| There's only one route forward. | ||
| The only way out is through. | ||
| The only way out is through. | ||
| Zoom, zoom, zoom. | ||
| The only way out is through. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at all the people. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| They need bike racks to hold them back. | ||
| The only way out is through, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Eric Trump posting. | ||
| This will be the final post on Acts we put up. | ||
| Eric Trump. | ||
| May the 30th, 2024. | ||
| Might be remembered as the day Donald Trump won the 2024 presidential election. | ||
| This from President Trump. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Eric Trump. | ||
| Why are so many people cheering for Donald Trump right now? | ||
| Why are they all standing? | ||
| Why can you go to a Trump rally and see Donald Trump's mugshot? | ||
| How can you see this mugshot on people's shirts? | ||
| Why do people wear this as a badge of honor? | ||
| There's a perfect explanation that I will leave you with from somebody who's wiser and better spoken than I. Somebody who rings like a bell in his explanation. | ||
| Of why Donald Trump is popular. | ||
| Why? | ||
| After being found guilty on 34 of 34 bookkeeping errors from 2007. | ||
| You see, he rigged the election in 2007 by covering up an affair that was in 2005 that both parties said never happened. | ||
| Got it? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, there's one man who described perfectly. | ||
| What we're going through right now, why they hate Donald Trump, and why there are people lining the streets, lining the streets in New York City to cheer for Donald Trump after his guilty conviction today. | ||
| Who explained it all? | ||
| Tucker Carlson. | ||
| He did so in the form of a Donald Trump ad. | ||
| I pray that Tucker Carlson re-records this and that he turned this into a real ad. | ||
| It should run during the World Series or big events before the election. | ||
| This is the most powerful thing that I've seen this side of our verse of the day. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, our verse of the day. | ||
| I don't want to forget it. | ||
| It's a very important day to remember our verse of the day. | ||
| Romans 12, 12. Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, and faithful in prayer. | ||
| You are not alone. | ||
| You are a servant of an all-powerful god who created the universe and who abides over an imperfect world that has always been filled with corrupted monsters. | ||
| And it is up to us to simply keep our heads held high, stiff upper lift, straighten up your back, chin up. | ||
| Be upright, be upstanding, and do not grow weary. | ||
| Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, and faithful in prayer, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We'll let Tucker take us out with the perfect explanation of what's happening right here in this very moment and why Donald Trump will win. | ||
| It's your boy, Benny. | ||
| You are in the arena. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| Millions of Americans sincerely love Donald Trump. | ||
| They love him in spite of everything they've heard. | ||
| They love him often in spite of himself. | ||
| They love Donald Trump because no one else loves them. | ||
| The country they built, the country their ancestors fought for over hundreds of years, has left them to die in their unfashionable little towns. | ||
| Mocked and despised by the sneering halfwits with finance degrees but no actual skills. | ||
| Who seem to run everything all of a sudden. | ||
| Whatever Donald Trump's fault, he is better than the rest of the people in charge. | ||
| At least he doesn't hate them for their weakness. | ||
| Donald Trump, in other words, is and has always been a living indictment of the people who run this country. | ||
| That was true four years ago when Trump came out of nowhere to win the presidency. | ||
| And it's every bit as true right now. | ||
| Trump rose because they failed. | ||
| It's as simple as that. | ||
| If the people in charge had done a halfway decent job with the country they inherited, if they cared about anything other than themselves, even for just a moment, Donald Trump would still be hosting Celebrity Apprentice. | ||
| But they didn't. | ||
| Instead, they were incompetent and narcissistic and cruel and relentlessly dishonest. | ||
| They wrecked what they didn't build. | ||
| They lied about it. | ||
| They hurt anyone who told the truth about what they were doing. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| We watched. | ||
| America is still a great country, the best in the world, but our ruling class is disgusting. | ||
| A vote for Trump is a vote against them. |
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