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May 8, 2024 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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Trump's classified documents case in Florida has been postponed with no set date.
Judge saying in her decision, quote, the court determines that finalization of a trial date at this juncture would be imprudent and inconsistent with the court's duty to fully and fairly consider the various pending pretrial motions before the court necessary to present this case to a jury.
The court therefore vacates the current May 20th trial date.
You're not fast enough for me.
Today I am.
I'm not.
The law has come back to town.
That's so good.
benny johnson
Wait a second.
I was like, when I was talking with Eric at the studio, I'm like, wait, is this like a full-length feature film?
This is incredible.
It's like a three-minute meme.
That's so good.
We should play that later in the show.
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a packed show for you.
Insane breaking news happening right now.
The second we went live, Fanny Willis got...
Well, ladies and gentlemen, she may have to go back to boarding school.
It's Wednesday, May 8th, 2024.
Trump's classified documents trial postponed indefinitely.
Stormy Daniels testifies in New York.
Boom!
Explodes the case.
Everyone's in panic because Stormy Daniels just ended the case against Donald Trump in New York.
And breaking news, the second we went live, the Court of Appeals in Georgia.
We'll be hearing the Fannie Willis disqualification hearing.
They aren't the ones who donated to Fannie.
Oh, no, no, no.
And so, ladies and gentlemen, there may be some pain in the rear for Fannie.
Ooh, it's going to be an interesting show.
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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we got breaking news this morning.
Oh, and by the way, I'm so excited for the show.
I'm so excited about the meme.
I forgot to tell you that Christina Bob, Donald Trump's attorney, is joining the program today.
Along with Will Chamberlain, who has been so sharp on these Trump legal issues, his attorney himself.
So again, we have a slam-packed show.
But the breaking news as of this morning.
Here we go, baby.
Georgia appeals court agrees to review the ruling allowing Fannie Willis to stay on the Trump election case.
Oh, it's beautiful.
This is a huge ruling.
This is a massive ruling.
This means that Big Fanny's getting taken to pound town because this appeals court is a court that isn't somebody, the judge, who made this initial ruling to say that half of Nathan's hot dog, you know, the half of Nathan's hot dog had to leave the case, right?
He had to take his hot dog to another wiener roller.
Like, yeah, in case you're wondering, I have so many fanny puns.
I've been waiting, like, weeks, months to, like, get all the fanny puns out.
And now it's just...
Open season, okay?
So Nathan's hot dog had to take his hot dog to a different weenie roller.
The judge ordered it.
He said, no!
You can't do it!
You've lied to the court.
But that doesn't make any sense, because how can you, like, kick off?
So you say that they're corrupt, but only half of them are corrupt?
I don't get that.
It's like pissing in the pool.
Like, it doesn't just, like, stay.
It's like, you have to drain the whole pool.
You have to drain it all.
Yeah, piss in the pool.
Yeah, somebody pees in the pool.
You gotta empty the whole pool, alright?
You re-chlorinate everything.
So you gotta get rid of Fannie Willis, too.
You can't just get rid of one guy, and now here's the deal.
The judge is a Fannie Willis donor, alright?
This guy's Judge McAfee.
He's elected, and so this guy is obviously going to rule on behalf of his former boss.
You know, he worked for Fannie Willis back in the day?
So he worked for Fannie Willis.
He donated to Fannie Willis.
He's elected position.
Fannie Willis says she's going to run somebody against him.
And so he has all this political pressure.
Guess who got the political pressure?
Oh, baby.
The appeals court.
This appeals court is going to be appointed by the state, by the governor.
And these appeals court judges are not going to have the same, let's just say, And he has three exclamation points.
Steve Sadow.
Interesting dude.
We've watched.
He's an incredible lawyer.
Let's just say he's not an excitable individual, okay?
We obviously have high energy on our show.
He's not an excitable individual.
He's very, like, Donald Trump selected him very wisely.
He's like a freight train kind of lawyer, right?
He just rolls along the track.
If Steve Sadow is using three exclamation points...
In this rule, you should be excited.
Phil Holloway is a friend of the show.
He's been on the show.
He himself is an attorney, crime studier, analyst, and columnist from the state of Georgia.
He's very, very smart on these things.
Georgia appeals court will hear the Fannie Wills disqualification appeal, and he includes the order there.
Upon consideration of the application interlocutory appeal, hereby granted, the appellant may file notice of appeal within 10 days of this order.
The clerk of the superior court is directed to include a copy of this order transmitted to the court of appeals.
Boom, shaka, laka, as they say in the highest courts in the So here we go, baby.
Fannie Willis not doing well.
So Fannie Willis, just some real quick Fannie news that we have sort of...
Glossed over because we haven't been getting a lot of news out of Fulton County recently.
So, number one, Fanny Willis almost fell down the stairs, as you can see here.
Fanny Willis needed three men to carry her down the stairs.
And what the hell's going on?
It is amazing.
It is such an interesting thing.
Ronald Dahl said it best, right, in one of his storybooks.
Like, miserable people wear their misery on the outside.
If they're miserable, and if they're gremlin-like, and if they're horrible individuals, they all end up looking like Joe Biden.
They all end up acting like Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, Donald Trump, I'm going to get in trouble for this, but Joe Biden, Donald Trump, not that.
They're like the same age.
I think maybe Biden's like five years older than Trump, but like on a sliding scale, they're very similar in age, all right?
They're similar.
They could have potentially been in the same high school together.
Joe Biden's older than Trump.
But look at the way that men move.
Look at the differences in the men.
Clearly one man has lived a good life, a life of vigor, a life of value, and a life of energy, and a life of kindness, and a life of goodness, and has buoyancy, and has energy, and can go play golf, championship golf.
And then one man, there's a clip going around where maybe Joe Biden...
We don't know.
Like, one man can barely make it down the stairs, just like Fannie Willis there.
Like, it's amazing what happens to evil.
Like, when these people, they're evil, it, like, actually weighs on them.
It breaks their bones.
They begin to, like, crumble.
It is fascinating seeing it.
And you can see it.
Maybe it's a curse from God.
I don't know.
You know, I don't know.
I don't like to sound off on those things, right?
That's like, that belongs to God.
But, like, it happens all the time in the Old Testament, right?
Where you have these corrupt, evil leaders.
And they get cursed, right?
And they lose their minds.
Joe Biden's lost his mind.
He's lived a bad life.
And he's done bad things.
And Fannie Willis has done bad things.
Fannie Willis is clearly not of sound mind.
Now we can prove that to you, okay?
We can prove that to you.
Fannie Willis went on the stand, and we're really looking forward to this.
Because Fannie Willis on the stand was like the best thing that ever happened.
We were live, we're like...
I don't know, ALX.
We clocked it in one day.
We were live for like 70 hours straight one week with Fannie Willis' trials.
Because Fannie Willis, it was so entertaining to watch her do this.
So here's what she did.
Fannie Willis took all his paper.
Took all his paper.
And she had all these crazy notes.
She had notes like, you ever seen the bum?
You know, the bum at the bus station?
And he has, like, a plastic bag full of newspapers.
Like, Fannie Willis decided to bring that bag up on stage with her.
And she started waving them around.
She started waving her papers around and throwing them.
Right?
Like, she's crazy.
Lady, you crazy.
Okay?
She started throwing her papers.
This is what the smartest, brightest political, the smartest, brightest legal mind in the country did to defend herself.
alina habba
Watch.
unidentified
Did he come to, I guess, the condo?
alina habba
I'm not sure what you called it, condo apartment.
Would he come and stay at that condo or visit you there?
I'm sorry, visit you there.
unidentified
What condo?
What apartment?
I want to be clear.
alina habba
So, not your house.
unidentified
I know you classified one as house and one as condo, so I'm trying to use those terms.
See, what you don't understand is because of this case, I've got to move.
And so, I...
If you could ask a more precise question.
Yes, please.
Give me the time period.
alina habba
Mr. Wade visits you at the place you laid your head.
unidentified
When?
alina habba
Has he ever visited you at the place you laid your head?
unidentified
So, let's be clear, because you've lied in this.
Let me tell you which one you lied in.
Right here?
I think you lied right here.
No, no, no, no.
This is the truth, Judge.
It is a lie.
benny johnson
It is a lie.
unidentified
Mr. Sainal, thank you.
We're going to take five minutes.
We'll be back in five.
benny johnson
Fanny Will, dumpy, frumpy Fanny Willis sitting there with her dress on backwards, with her American flag pinned sideways and upside down, looking like a hot mess, and throwing her papers.
Screaming.
We don't have all the time.
Listen, it'd be fun to do a full Fanny Willis show.
We're ready for it, but we've got way more news to get to.
But let's just do a quick countdown, okay?
Quick countdown.
We're not going to play all the clips.
We have all the clips to prove it.
We have all the clips to prove it, all right?
The greatest thing that ever happened in this case was Fannie Willis taking the stand and everybody getting to actually see what a tire fire that lady is, okay?
But here we go.
Fannie Willis admitted to campaign fraud.
Fannie Willis admitted to lying before the court about when her relationship started.
Fannie Willis admitted that she's absolutely already made her decision in this prosecution about Donald Trump, screamed and yelled and hollered, you're the ones who stole the election, right?
Like that she's low IQ.
Okay?
Fannie Willis admitted to lying about when she visited the White House.
There's another lie before the court.
And then Fannie Willis, just in her own personhood, was just such a mess.
She's not, and we'll get to this with Storny Daniels, she's not a credible witness.
She's not credible.
She's just somebody that, you know, you don't believe her.
You're like, you're lying to me.
Let's do more evidence that she's a mess.
Here's an article from the Daily Mail.
Fannie Willis' wardrobe malfunction while speaking at a black leaders event in Miami.
Same time there was a debate.
There's a Democrat running against her.
There's Republicans running against her.
Everyone's trying to take her job because she's such a disaster here.
And she may get disqualified for her marquee case.
Fannie Willis has a wardrobe disaster.
Let's just say it's inappropriate.
It's inappropriate.
Let's just say not a lady.
Not very ladylike on stage.
Pretty gross.
So more wardrobe malfunctions.
Fanny Wills can't even walk down the stairs without help.
She's collapsing.
Her case is collapsing.
This is what happens to evil people.
It's biblical!
It's the Old Testament kind of stuff.
It's really fun.
It's really exciting to see.
It's all collapsing.
And it's all falling down.
If only...
If only, and the last thing we'll say here, if only somebody could save her.
If only she decided to choose as her lead prosecutor a man whose face can be found on many piss-stained park benches and bus stops around Fulton County.
If only she chose a man whose top legal achievement...
Was getting some money back for stolen speakers and also doing some name changes in the court.
If only she chose one of the highest legal scholars ever to be on her team, a man named Nathan's Hot Dog.
If only Fannie Willis had chosen such a smart man who could answer the single question.
This is really when the case fell apart.
Nathan Wade getting asked the toughest question that you can ask in a court of law.
You almost feel bad for the guy.
unidentified
You ever go to a cabin?
benny johnson
Here we go.
unidentified
Did you go to a cabin with Miss Willis ever?
Ever?
alina habba
ever.
unidentified
The hardest time we've been together, thought a thing would last forever.
Through thick and thin, through the bed, all I was happy, never, never said.
Now it's all gone so well, getting worse by the hour.
Let's break up now.
No.
benny johnson
You're dancing.
It's such a funny song.
Oh, come on, man.
No, don't you want him back on TV?
I want him back on TV.
I want him back on TV.
We're ready.
We're ready on the program.
We'll do it again.
We'll do it again.
We'll be live.
ALX telling me, yeah, you're right.
We were live for about 70 hours.
He said it was over the course about two weeks.
We were live for 70 hours covering Fannie.
It was, you know, we were on for a long time.
It was fun.
It was great.
We'll do it again.
We're ready for it.
Bring it on.
Alex, do we have any date on when the hearings will be?
Let's see if we can find that and start to set our calendars.
We really look forward to the disqualification hearing of Fannie Willis.
A lot of people, the good people, are all saying, Ooh, it's gonna be smashing.
And speaking of smashing, let's move on past the Florida-Georgia line down to Florida here.
Trump's classified documents trial nuked from space.
Like, the lady had a cannon.
Her name is Judge Cannon, Judge Eileen Cannon.
If you were watching the show yesterday, you heard the great Julie Kelly say that Eileen Cannon was going to issue something.
Blistering.
Later in the day, you were prepared for this, but not even we were prepared for what Judge Eileen Cannon did.
Judge Eileen Cannon says that the documents case against Donald Trump will be postponed indefinitely.
Indefinitely.
Oh, baby.
Trump classified document postponed indefinitely.
Judge ruling has a huge implications.
Ex-president voice trial before the election.
I don't think this thing will ever go to trial.
That's my takeaway.
After doing a ton of reading, after looking through all this and seeing what all legal experts have to say, they have created such an absolute garbage fire here, a dumpster fire here, that I don't think it'll ever go to trial.
Judge Cannon has delayed Donald Trump's trial date indefinitely, citing ongoing issues with the case.
The Trump-appointed district attorney, Trump-appointed district judge Eileen Cannon ruled that the trial would be Oh, man.
This is so spicy.
The reason why it's so spicy is that the judge is allowing, effectively, the continuation of some major criticism.
Can I get the Julie Kelly tweet on?
Can I get the Julie Kelly tweet on this?
She's allowing, effectively, a trial of Jack Smith to carry on, to carry forward.
So she set trial dates for, is Jack Smith a legitimate prosecutor?
Did the government tamper with or plant evidence on Donald Trump?
Oh, baby, this is smoking.
Really exciting times.
There is a lot of people that we know really, really excited about this.
Again, much like Fulton County, all the right people are excited about this.
Here is the breaking news.
unidentified
This case was supposed to go to trial in Fort Pierce, Florida on May 20th.
That is no longer happening.
That date has been pushed back.
And while there is not a new trial date set, Judge Eileen Cannon has set some deadlines, many deadlines, at least a dozen, going on late into the summer, pushing the trial back at least until the end of July.
In an order, just late this afternoon, about an hour or so ago, Judge Cannon announced she's extending several key deadlines in this case that take it out at...
As I said, till the end of July, this is the case involving the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago.
Special Counsel Jack Smith hoped this and the other trial involving the former president here in Washington, D.C., over alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results, would go to trial before Election Day in November.
The Supreme Court, Brett, is currently weighing whether Trump should be immune from federal prosecution in that election interference case in D.C., meaning that case has been on hold for several months.
The justices are expected to...
The former president is hoping to avoid both trials before the November election, and he may get his wish.
If Judge Cannon continues to extend deadlines in the Florida trial and does not set a date, that could push things back post-election.
If the Supreme Court gives sort of a mixed ruling or a ruling favorable to Donald Trump, that could push things back here in Washington, D.C. The bottom line, another day, another delay means just we're getting that much closer to the election.
benny johnson
Okay, baby, here we go.
This is Julie Kelly.
She's so good.
She's on the program yesterday for nearly an hour explaining what's happening here.
This is what she has to say.
This is too good.
Oh, damn!
This is too good.
Cannon set hearing on key motions, including selective prosecution, unlawful appointment of special counsel.
Jack Smith really hoped to avoid a hearing on the scope of the prosecution, including the Biden White House.
She's putting the Biden White House on trial.
That's called an UNO reverse.
You ever seen it?
Uno reverse.
unidentified
Bam!
benny johnson
I should get an Uno reverse card for the show.
We should get a stinger, actually, that has Uno reverse card on the show.
We'll get that in production.
So, Uno reverse, somebody who's very excited to talk about numero uno, dos, tres.
And the quattro is Donald Trump's attorney, Alina Habba.
Again, Donald Trump's attorney, Christina Bob, will be joining the show in just a bit.
But Donald Trump's attorney and Lena Haba saying, hold on, case needs to be dismissed right now.
alina habba
The fact that we have White House logs that DAs and AGs are all coordinating and on the South Lawn with President Biden also speaks volumes.
And we're going to hit each and every one of these cases like we have.
As you saw with the boxes hoax today, this is disgusting.
Jack Smith changing covers sloppy with evidence that he's now trying to blame President Trump when it was his hands in the cookie jar.
Let's be clear on what is happening.
Their plan is falling apart.
It's going in there.
benny johnson
All of them should be dismissed.
Why?
She said that they were sloppy with how they handled the documents.
Cash Patel was on our show on Monday saying, hold up, here's what they did.
Not only did they plant evidence, presumably, inside of Mar-a-Lago because the government had all these boxes, GSA, and they shove them into Donald Trump's keep.
But then also, Jack Smith rearranged all the paperwork.
Then also...
We have the reporting that Jack Smith brought all the classified document cover sheets and planted them.
So they're planting evidence on Donald Trump.
They're tampering with evidence.
They're rearranging evidence.
It's a crime syndicate.
What is enlightenment?
If you watch the program, you know.
Enlightenment is understanding that your government is just an organized crime syndicate.
There's a goon squad.
They're no different than the mafia.
And these are mafia tactics.
Kash Patel explains.
unidentified
Here we go.
kash patel
Jack Smith has just been exposed by Judge Cannon of doing what?
Lying to a federal court.
These guys keep doing it.
The judge just unsealed documents in the Jack Smith case down in Florida, which says the prosecutors themselves have admitted to tampering with evidence to moving the very boxes from one location outside of D.C. to South Florida before they ever even charged Donald Trump.
How in the world can you not be prosecuting and charging these constitutional gangsters that are at DOJ?
And they learn it from the same place, the top-down, the same AGs, the same DAGs, the same FBI directors who are cheering them on.
I hope Judge Cannon...
Here's an actual fun legal thing that should actually be occurring.
Judge Cannon should be implementing actual contempt proceedings?
Against Jack Smith and the Department of Justice for lying to a federal judge and withholding evidence of exclusion and innocence from Donald Trump.
Those contempt proceedings would be righteous, and I'd like to see those.
Maybe we could put Jack Smith in prison.
benny johnson
Boom.
Maybe we could put Jack Smith in prison.
Says Kash Patel, who many say will be in the Department of Justice and Donald Trump 2.0.
I mean, he's the guy who was federal prosecutor in charge.
Like, working at the DNI, working at the Department of Defense, saying, this is worth a full-scale investigation into Jack Smith.
Jack Smith is the one behaving criminally here.
Uno reverse.
Uno reverse.
Look at that.
Julie Kelly on our program yesterday, effectively telling us the future.
We love when this happens.
We try not to brag, but it is a good reason to watch the show.
It's a great reason to watch the show.
It's always my honor to bring on guests who are going to tell you what's about to happen.
And we have a really good record of that on the program.
Here's Julie Kelly yesterday telling you what was about to happen, and lo and behold, 5 o 'clock strikes 5, and we are off to the races.
Julie Kelly saying Judge Eileen Cannon is pissed.
Go.
julie kelly
They brought these cover sheets to the Mar-a-Lago raid.
For the sole purpose, they say as placeholders for the classified files that they found, but for the sole purpose also of creating that stunt photo of the crime scene to make it appear that that is how the documents were found in those boxes.
That simply is just one more lie.
Misrepresentation.
Not just to the public, but to Judge Cannon as well.
So we should have some more interesting developments this week.
Last night, Judge Cannon put a hold on a very important hearing related to what classified material the defense was going to present at trial.
She has put a hold on that deadline, and I suspect that she is right now preparing a blistering order about this case to Jack Smith, the recent revelations about mishandling evidence and continuing to put this case towards trial, despite what we now know prosecutorial abuse, tampering and doctoring evidence and withholding it, all of this information from the defense.
benny johnson
All right, baby.
Man, do we have a meme for you about all of this.
And there's only one person, actually, from only one organization that has been fighting.
For these results and has been messaging the only lawyers with balls out here.
I can say it, right?
Because he's not on camera just yet.
But the only lawyers with balls out here that can actually fight and have been fighting for these cases and against this style of prosecution has been the Article 3 Project.
Will Chamberlain, Senior Counsel at the Article 3 Project, joins us now.
Will Will, I'm not going to say that you have balls while you're on camera here.
I'm just saying that the Article 3 project is an incredible organization.
And you guys are seeing some incredible results here.
These are not great days for Jack Smith.
will chamberlain
No, this is a very bad day for Jack Smith.
And I mean, it's a bad day also for the entire lawfare effort against the president, right?
We have the news that came out this morning that the Georgia Court of Appeal is going to hear.
The question of whether Fannie Willis should be disqualified.
And, you know, I predicted that the district court's ruling had this basic flaw, which is they said that there's this obvious appearance of impropriety, but yet you can cure the appearance of impropriety by firing only getting rid of only Nathan Wade and not Fannie Willis, too.
That was just never going to work, wasn't going to stand up to scrutiny.
And so I expect that Now that the Georgia Court of Appeal has agreed to hear the case, it didn't have to.
It could have just sent it back to the lower court.
Fannie Wills is about to get kicked off that case, and who knows if it'll ever go to trial, frankly.
benny johnson
So you predict that Fannie Wills is off?
will chamberlain
Yeah.
I mean, the basic reason is, I think, if there's an appearance of impropriety, I don't think Georgia wants to have a rule that prosecutors can stay on a case with an appearance of impropriety, that they should be kicked off.
And then the reason that I think it'll...
Ultimately, I don't think it'll ever go to trial is because it's such a mess of a case.
It's this massive, complicated RICO case with 20 defendants, all of whom have the resources to hire lawyers.
What district attorney's office wants to be bogged down by that?
The only reason you do it is for political stardom and ambition.
But if another district attorney's office has to take the case, I think they'll look at it and be like, this is stupid.
We don't want it.
We don't have the time.
benny johnson
So you're senior legal counsel at the Article 3 project.
I was watching some of the commentary from some legal analysts that I really liked yesterday with this whole delayed indefinitely thing with the Trump documents case.
And many were saying, like, this thing has also such a tire fire that there's no way this case will see the inside of a courtroom.
They don't think that the government will actually push forward with it.
Jack Smith has yet to identify what the crime was, which is kind of insane.
will chamberlain
I mean, there's a slew of problems because, you know, you have...
This whole classified evidence discovery problem, which is normally you just send documents back and forth because the documents in question are classified.
There's been this massive litigation dispute about like, okay, how did the defense attorneys get to review it?
Under what circumstances?
How do they get proper access?
And so that's one problem.
Then you have this new spoliation problem where apparently, one, they staged the photo with all the classified, like the cover sheets.
And then...
Second, the fact that they didn't record exactly where the documents were.
They didn't do a good job preserving the evidence.
All that bears on President Trump's intent.
So like, you know, depending on the condition of the documents, where they were found, it goes to the state of mind necessary to actually prove a crime under the classified documents issues.
And that doesn't even get to the fundamental issue.
If he's a former president, he has the right.
He had the right to see all these documents.
He had the right to declassify them unilaterally, if he so shows.
benny johnson
Yeah, so the story that was told is that Donald Trump grabbed the nuclear secrets, shoved them down the front of his pants, and sort of flopped the red tie over it, and wobbled out of the White House with those documents.
That is totally untrue, and now the emails are showing that the GSA had pallets of Trump documents, and then they forced them into Mar-a-Lago.
Effectively, the FBI said, you've got to take all these, and they shipped them down to Mar-a-Lago.
Jack Smith doesn't know which document was in what box.
How the hell are they ever going to prove that the government didn't plant classified documents at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago?
How can you prove that?
will chamberlain
I don't think you can, and I think that's why any sound prosecutor at this point would dismiss the case.
I mean, they don't have the ability to prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt.
I don't think they did before, and they certainly don't now.
And it's really remarkable when you compare it with Joe Biden and the classified documents that were found in his garage.
I mean, and the big difference there is he had no authority to declassify.
He had no authority to take those documents out of his skin.
He saw those when he was a senator, some of them, and when he was vice president.
Classification authority flows from the president.
And he's only getting off because obviously Robert Hur, the special counsel, found him to be a feeble old man.
benny johnson
Could you explain to me, like, what is it that...
Judge Eileen Cannon is going to hear when she has a hearing.
She did schedule some hearings.
One hearing was on the legality of Jack Smith as a special counsel.
Now, that's very interesting.
Ed Meese, obviously, legend in the legal profession, attorney general under Reagan, works at the Heritage Foundation.
Ed Meese is like, Jack Smith isn't legal and shouldn't have these rights.
And that got me to sort of stop and listen.
What's the argument there?
will chamberlain
Well, the argument is that every U.S. attorney in the country, and that's anybody heading a local U.S. attorney's office, so somebody in, for example, the Southern District of Florida, that person is appointed, nominated by the president, and confirmed by the Senate.
And that's what gives them the authority to exercise the power of the federal government.
Lying prosecutors obviously are not appointed, but you're just assistant district attorneys, but their authority flows from their boss, who is confirmed by the Senate.
Jack Smith runs his own office, and He should be, under law, a Senate-confirmed attorney, a Senate-confirmed U.S. attorney.
But he's not, right?
He's a private citizen.
He was a private citizen when Merrick Garland tapped him.
He never faced Senate confirmation.
And as a result, the entire prosecution, therefore, just doesn't have a legitimate basis to flow from, especially because he's a special counsel.
He's barely reporting to Merrick Garland, much less so than normal standard U.S. attorneys.
So basically, they managed to circumvent the entire process of Senate confirmation.
And as a result, we have this bizarre circumstance where, you know, the Attorney General just has his personal appointee doing all this work.
benny johnson
And you're from the DMV area.
I know that perhaps you're familiar with McDonald versus the Supreme versus the United States, Jack Smith's famous case where he was overruled 9-0 inside of a liberal Supreme Court for doing a very similar hatchet job on Bob McDonald, who was a very popular governor of Virginia, might have run for president against Barack Obama.
And shockingly, as we looked through this case, we're not legal scholars, but we can read the we can read the ruling.
They said that Jack Smith didn't prove intent.
It's the same thing.
It's the same case.
He didn't prove intent and wasn't able to prove that the governor's acts were And so the Supreme Court smashes the guy over the exact same case, although he was able to destroy his career, which seemed to be the actual goal.
will chamberlain
Yeah, and it's not, I mean, Democrats have been doing lawfare against Republicans like this to have political, with political consequences for decades.
I mean, you can go all the way back to Ted Stevens and Obamacare.
So think about this.
Ted Stevens was a senator from Alaska.
Under Obama, they went after him hard.
This was when there was like a 51-49 majority in the Senate or something.
They went after Ted Stevens-Hard.
They indicted him for a similar bribery idea.
And in this case, it wasn't the Supreme Court that slapped him down.
It was actually post-conviction in the district court, evidence was revealed that some of the FBI agents and the attorneys were lying to the court and weren't fully, you know, weren't, you know, in the spirit of candor, weren't actually revealing everything that they knew.
And Judge Emmett Sullivan, who later obviously was not great, and Michael Flynn, but Judge Emmett Sullivan actually overturned the conviction, and I think some of the lawyers in that case got disbarred, and there actually might have been some prosecutions of the government agents involved.
But you know what?
It didn't matter because Ted Stevens lost his election, and that gave Obama the supermajority he needed, I think, to get Obamacare through.
benny johnson
Incredible.
They play on a different level.
It's so evil.
It's so banal, and it's so...
It's so important to have people that are willing to fight.
And it's so important to have the Article 3 project because you guys are the only ones.
I've been friends with Mike for a long time.
You guys are the only ones who have actually thrown people in lockers around here and are actually fighting against this.
And we're deeply appreciative for it.
Odds on of Jack Smith being able to remain special counsel if this actually gets a hearing?
will chamberlain
I mean, it's not better than 50-50, honestly.
I don't think.
I think that, I mean, it's a novel issue, so I'm reluctant to just go ahead and prognosticate on how the Supreme Court's going to rule.
But, I mean, I read Ed Nies' brief.
I thought it was persuasive.
I think it's the right argument.
And it's sloppy of Merrick Garland.
Like, in the past, when Trump appointed special counsels, for example, the way you get around this problem is you take somebody who's already a U.S. attorney somewhere, who's already gone through.
The confirmation process.
And then you put them on the special counsel investigation as the leader.
So that's how you get around.
You solve the problem of whoever's running the special counsel office needs to be a Senate confirmed person.
They just didn't do that here.
He just literally found like this super hyper aggressive prosecutor that was hanging out at the Hague prosecuting European war criminals and just yoinked him over here and said, OK, you're prosecuting the president now.
It's not how it works.
benny johnson
It does seem like a big yoink.
The whole thing.
That's a perfect adjective.
There's a big giant yoink job.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't want to be yoinked around, you've got to follow Will Chamberlain.
Make sure that you follow Will and the Article 3 project.
He is at Will Chamberlain on X. And thank you so much for being on the show, Will.
will chamberlain
Absolutely.
Thanks for having me, Ben.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
benny johnson
Oh, baby.
Okay, so we gotta move on.
We're moving so quickly.
Donald Trump's lawyer, Christina Bob, will be joining us in just a moment.
So let's move very quickly to Stormy Daniels in New York.
Apparently Stormy Daniels absolutely, absolutely destroyed the case against Donald Trump in New York yesterday.
Here are the headlines.
Stormy Daniels testimony so lurid that it almost derailed Trump trial.
How porn star's lively claims about spanking and condoms and STDs sparked a slew of objections before the judge called her difficult to control.
Whoa!
This is wild.
Okay, so get a load of this.
Here's what CNN had to say.
You don't know how bad it is.
Here's what CNN had to say about the dumpster fire.
The absolute lot lizard dumpster fire of Stormy Daniels' The cross-exam, boy, her responses were disastrous.
unidentified
I mean, do you hate Donald Trump?
Yes, of course she does.
That's a big deal.
When the witness hates the person whose liberty is at stake, that's a big damn deal.
And she's putting out tweets, fantasizing about him being in jail.
That really undermines the credibility.
The fact that she owes him...
$500,000.
She, by order of a court, owes Donald Trump a half million dollars and said, I will never pay him.
I will defy a court order.
The defense is going to say she's willing to defy a court order.
Why?
She's not willing to respect an order of a judge.
Why is she going to respect this oath she took?
So, I thought it went quite poorly on cross-exam.
At the end of Direct, I thought, okay, they got what they needed, but I think the cross is making real inroads.
benny johnson
Dude, how bad does it have to be when CNN's like, you just destroyed your case?
How bad is that?
I mean, it's really bad.
Dude, let's move on over to MSNBC.
MSNBC was like straight up panicking on air, saying like the judge was pissed off at Stormy Daniels in the courthouse.
I really wish there were cameras in that courthouse.
Let's go.
unidentified
Basic feeling is like, wow, this is a colorful, maybe hyper colorful witness.
But how much was the jury also watching Donald Trump and maybe his reaction to some of those very...
Just let's say details of that sexual encounter.
Right.
So I looked for that pretty carefully.
It was mainly on Stormy.
They were taking her in.
I was looking at Trump some, and he had a general kind of impassiveness.
Not glowering exactly, but obviously not happy.
But the basic dynamic was jury to Stormy, and then again, I haven't seen Mayor Chan in this trial be so sort of irritated, and it came across.
I think, as being irritated with her level of detail, that's something, if you're the DA, you're worried about because you don't want them to think that he, the judge, is actually displeased in any way with the witness.
benny johnson
Wait, so the judge is pissed off at Stormy Daniels?
This is how MSNBC, that guy, was in the courtroom.
And he's like, what the hell is going on here?
It's getting bad.
So there was a federal judge who went on CNN.
So there's a federal judge, goes on CNN.
And says this just destroyed the case.
Get a load of this.
Watch.
unidentified
The material that came in was not relevant to this criminal case at all.
And I think it shows that she was trying to get Trump.
I actually thought there was a motive there.
She said she hates him.
She said she'd like to see him in prison.
I think she was purposely throwing out this stuff to make sure the jurors were prejudiced, particularly the women jurors, but probably half of the men, too, were really put off.
benny johnson
So, ladies and gentlemen, we have a massive problem on our hands there.
It's not a problem, it's really exciting.
There's total collapse!
It's all collapsing!
Everything, New York, Georgia, Florida, it's all being destroyed.
Like, every one of these cases is being destroyed.
It's all collapsing in real time.
You can call it providential, you can call it an act of God, call it whatever you want.
Alina Habba, I was really looking forward to this clip.
Alina Habba destroying Stormy Daniels, the lady that signed a document saying that this affair never happened.
The lady who owes Donald Trump $600,000.
Alina Habba taking no prisoners.
alina habba
That the prosecution, whose case, frankly, in my opinion, has been destroyed, is completely discredited.
And now they are saying, as of yesterday, that they want another two weeks.
And that, to me, says it all, Sean.
And the American people need to remember one thing.
This case is not about defamation.
It is not about a woman.
It is about a record-keeping category that was, frankly, correct, made in Trump Tower by the Trump Organization.
Somebody in accounting who did not...
Nothing wrong.
Who's never spoken to President Trump while President Trump was doing what?
In the Oval Office running the country.
And that is what DA Alvin Bragg is trying to now put a former president on trial for.
It's not about the felony counts.
It's not about what we heard today.
That is a distraction.
It is about one thing, Sean.
You know it and I know it.
And that is to keep Donald Trump out of the campaign trail.
Because...
Biden can't beat him.
Period.
The end.
His poll numbers are amazing, and he's not even campaigning.
So this is what they have to do.
And then put an unconstitutional gag order so that on the days that he can campaign, he can't speak.
He can't defend himself.
What I have seen is absolute demise of American judicial system.
You said it perfectly in your monologue, Sean.
I can't believe what I've seen for the last two days in that courtroom.
And now you've got a judge who will not grant a mistrial when they violated parameters that he gave.
They did not care.
They went ahead and put salacious information that was frankly false.
We know that from from words that were said prior to this trial.
And now we're sitting here scratching our heads, wondering where taxpayer dollars are going.
unidentified
I think.
Thank you.
benny johnson
That's such a great point.
They're at the very end there.
They're paying.
They're making us pay for this.
They're abusing these offices, making us pay for this.
I am more in agreement, ladies and gentlemen, by the day, with Mike Davis' scorched-earth policy of you should find Trump plus 50 districts here in Florida, judges who donated to Donald Trump, prosecutors who worked for Donald Trump, right, come right over from Donald Trump's DOJ.
And you should go try Biden.
Do it!
I mean, at what point?
Like, listen, the prosecutor, Michael Colangelo, worked for Biden's DOJ, took money from the DNC.
So let's get RNC prosecutors in to go try Biden in Trump plus 50 districts with Trump judges.
Wearing MAGA hats.
Okay?
It's the exact same thing.
It is the exact same setup.
It's such a fraud on the American people.
And there are people who are now finally seeing the truth.
Somebody who's been speaking the truth for a very long time, somebody who's worked with Alina Havas, somebody who's worked with Trump, somebody who's been like at Trump's side, and we are so honored to have on the program is the senior counsel to the RNC, Christina Bopp joins the show live now.
you you you Christine, it's such an honor to have you on the program.
Thank you so much for joining us.
I don't think you were in the courtroom in New York, but it didn't look good.
It didn't look very pretty from what we saw.
christina bobb
No, this is what happens when you bring bad cases with bad charges with bad facts.
It has a hard time standing up under its own weight, and I think that's what we're seeing happen pretty much across the board.
benny johnson
There isn't any good news if you are Joe Biden over the last 24 to 48 hours.
In fact, there is a lot of reason to be reaching for the bottle of Xanax, right?
And another pack of adult diapers, right?
christina bobb
Yeah, I think they have overplayed their hand.
Every time they overplay their hand, we go, oh my gosh, they're overplaying their hand.
And then they double down and double down and double down.
And they're getting to the point where they can't stand up under the weight of their own corruption, under the weight of their own lies, under the weight of their own deceit, under the weight of their own fraud.
All of this propaganda that they're trying to perpetuate among the American people through the court system.
I mean, it's just falling apart.
benny johnson
So this is really interesting because you've been by Donald Trump's side for a very, very long time.
And maybe you could give us...
I mean, it's been years, right?
Like, maybe you can give us some insight into...
How the man is aging in reverse?
How the guy seems to be handling all this so well?
I mean, did he know that the documents case was going to be delayed indefinitely?
Did he know the appeals court was going to pick up that Fannie Willis stuff?
It's remarkable.
christina bobb
It's really remarkable.
And I don't know what to talk it up to other than what you said earlier.
Is it divine providence?
That's the only thing I can think of because I genuinely believe, I have spent a fair amount of time with President Trump.
I've worked with him and I've gone through really difficult...
I do not believe that he has the ability to cave.
He doesn't have the ability to give in to make his life easier, to make it all go away, just to get them to stop.
He's just not built that way.
So when they put this plan into place to go after Donald Trump saying, oh, we'll get him to break, we'll get him to bow out, we'll get him to go away quietly so that we can still keep control of the United States government, they picked the wrong person.
He's not going down.
And what they're doing is going to end up taking down their entire criminal structure that they've put together to try to criminalize political opposition.
benny johnson
Yeah, that's exactly right.
It really does seem like there's a big Uno reverse moment happening right now.
We haven't exactly built...
We haven't built the graphics package yet for the show, but we're going to build the Uno reverse.
Because everything seems to be flipping.
Okay, so let's zero in on just two or three quick things from breaking news, and then I'd like to talk about the RNC in a second.
So, breaking news at time of show, at time of going live today.
Fannie Willis, appeals court, is going to hear the Fannie Willis disqualification case.
We likened it to pissing in a pool.
It's the best we could come up with.
You've got to drain the whole pool.
OK, you just get rid of half the water.
You got it.
You got to drain the whole pool.
Sorry for this sort of crude allegory there, but perhaps you could illuminate for us.
Like, what are your thoughts on that case?
What do you think?
I mean, what are the chances Fannie Willis is going to continue on?
christina bobb
I actually think it's the perfect analogy, and I've used it myself.
When you pee in the pool, you can't separate it anymore.
The damage is done and you have to drain the whole pool.
And with Fannie Willis, the thing that struck me as odd as an attorney, when two attorneys are conflicted.
That means both attorneys are conflicted.
It's not like, oh, well, one gets to keep the conflict and the other one has to go away, which is what the trial court had ruled.
No, if you're conflicted, you're conflicted.
Neither of you should be able to stay.
So I hope that the appeals court takes a real serious look at this and says, you know, we probably should follow the law once in a while because that's the way every other attorney conflict works.
Both attorneys, if they have a conflict with each other and they started the case together and they did the case together, meaning they put together the grand jury and they got the indictment together, they're both conflicted out.
You can't just keep one and make the other one go away.
This isn't high school prom.
They both have to leave the case.
So I don't know what the appeals court is going to do, but that's what they should do.
benny johnson
I'm arguing against our own programming here because I'd love nothing more.
Than to see Fanny Willis with her dress on backwards, with her upside-down American flag pin, throwing papers, right?
Lying under oath.
I've never been to the White House.
Well, the Secret Service says otherwise.
How stupid are you?
It'd be great for daytime television.
Doesn't seem like the brightest bulb in the box.
Seems like she's got some other major problems going on with firing whistleblowers.
It's a bit of a tire fire down there in Fulton County.
christina bobb
Well, if you think about it, those are the kind of people that the crazy globalists need to bring cases like this.
Because smart, hardworking attorneys who care about their bar license and who care about their ethical obligations don't bring cases like this.
And so you have to find someone willing to do it.
And the problem that they have is the people willing to do it are people like Fannie Willis who bring a plethora of their own problems.
I don't think they're going to have a clean case in any of these cases.
I think they're all going to be quite difficult because of the caliber of the case being brought.
It's quite low.
benny johnson
So Ed Meese at the Heritage Foundation, obviously a legend in the legal space and one of the smartest, most thoughtful legal scholars there is, issued to the Supreme Court a brief saying Jack Smith's illegal, right?
And then we saw yesterday Judge Cannon say, I'm going to hear that.
I'm going to hear that case.
As to whether Jack Smith has the lawful authority to be the special counsel.
Now, that's super interesting to me, along with the delay of the indefinite delay of the trial.
Do you think that Jack Smith has legal authority as special counsel?
christina bobb
Well, I don't think he does.
I don't think he is a correctly appointed and confirmed special counsel.
And he's certainly not from outside of the government.
He doesn't meet the actual definition of being outside the government.
He's from the Department of Justice.
So I think it's a very good motion.
And I read that motion a while ago.
And at the time that I read it, I was...
I thought it had a lot of merit to it.
So I'll be real curious to see what Judge Cannon says about it.
But we have to start holding the line on the law.
This is what happens when we have attorneys and judges go, well, it's not really legal, but okay, fine.
We don't want to fight you on it.
Okay, fine.
And everyone says, okay, fine.
Okay, fine.
Well, suddenly you have cases like Fannie Willis in Georgia or the Jack Smith case where people go, I don't think anything about this is legal.
How did we get here?
And we get here because...
Quite honestly, conservative attorneys haven't been fighting and they haven't been pushing back and they haven't been saying, no, we are going to stand on the letter of the law.
We are going to make sure the law is enforced and we're going to enforce it exactly as it's written.
And we haven't really been doing a good job of that in this country for a while.
And now, thankfully, we're starting to see kind of a resurgence of conservatives saying, no, no, no, we're actually going to make sure the law is followed.
And I really hope that the judges follow suit.
benny johnson
Again, you've worked with Donald Trump for a long time.
I have no idea how long you've been an attorney, but you've risen up in the ranks, you know, really high.
You must be great at your job.
I, as somebody who went to community college, I'm no lawyer, but even I know that if you go to a crime scene and you're a member of law enforcement and you decide to doctor the crime scene in a way that looks worse for the accused.
Then you become the criminal, right?
Like if you plant evidence at a crime scene, that's no bueno.
You might get an uno reverse on that.
And that is exactly what we've just learned over the last 48 hours.
Jack Smith did.
He affixed the classified document.
Markings to classified documents.
He reorganized where all the documents were.
The documents were held at GSA and then shoved onto Trump's property.
So who knows if the government actually planted the evidence there, where the classified documents were.
And then we know that all the photos were staged.
So how does this case continue?
christina bobb
It shouldn't.
I mean, those are really concerning facts.
And what's so great about the way these cases are unfolding?
Now, don't...
Get me wrong.
I don't believe they should have been brought in the first place, but they chose to bring these wild and crazy cases.
So they're bringing them and they're unfolding in a way, as you just so eloquently pointed out, you don't have to be a lawyer to see that it's complete bunk.
Anybody can look at this and go, there's something wrong with that.
And so I would say the silver lining of all of the turmoil that we've all been put through over the last several years is it's so obvious that The media is having a hard time covering it up.
You know, it used to be they could kind of tweak things here and there and throw in some legalese and legal mumbo jumbo to where the public was like, okay, I don't really get it, but I, okay, I guess it's fine.
They can't do that anymore.
It's falling apart and anybody can see, hey, they're treating Donald Trump one way.
They're treating Joe Biden, who actually did have classified documents, who actually was not authorized to have them and stored them in a very insecure area.
They're treating them very differently.
I'm not a lawyer, but I can see that.
That's not right.
So I would say that's the silver lining to all of this is it's plain as day what they're doing.
benny johnson
So silver linings.
You're now at the RNC.
We've been waiting for somebody with some brass to come into the RNC and really like, Tighten the ship up a little bit.
Like, where the hell were you in the last couple of years, right?
Like, what are you doing with the money?
Whatever.
So, time gone by.
New leadership.
Laura Trump, big time Michael Watley, Laura Trump fans around here.
And the question that we have is obviously what happens in the lead-up to elections and on election day to preserve the integrity of our election?
christina bobb
Yeah, absolutely.
So I'm thrilled with Chairman Whatley and co-chair Laura Trump.
They both care very deeply about election integrity, and certainly that's something that is really important to me and something I've been working on for the president for the last few years and reporting on it prior to working for the president.
So that's great news that this is something that they are really focused on and care a lot about.
The RNC has a program called Protect the Vote.
You can go to protectthevote.com and sign up to be a part of it and get trained as a poll worker, observer in your area.
And my calculated opinion is that we need a lot of people involved.
This is not an election where you can just vote or just donate, although we're very grateful for donations.
We need people.
We need people involved to work the election.
If you can't get in touch with the RNC, get in touch with your state party.
If your state party is somewhere more organized than others, and we're working really hard right now to kind of beef that up to make sure that the state parties have what they need to really serve the grassroots.
And serve the volunteers, but get involved some way.
And there's a lot of great groups outside the RNC, outside the state parties, if you feel strongly.
I know some people have strong opinions about it.
So there are other groups out there as well.
But whatever you do, get involved.
We need everybody involved.
This is an all-hands-on-deck moment.
benny johnson
Yeah.
We work very closely with Turning Point, Turning Point Action.
christina bobb
Yeah, they're a great group.
benny johnson
Turning Point Action is a fantastic group.
They're doing an amazing job with Get Out the Vote, working closely with Scott Pressler as well.
He has his own organization.
And so, you know, it is.
It's going to be a massive team effort.
We're very, very excited about some major events coming up.
There's a Turning Point Action event that's going to feature Donald Trump in Detroit in a couple of weeks.
So we'll be at that one as well.
So moving forward, strategy 2024.
I think for less than six months.
I think for less than six months, Christina, what is the strategy?
What are the main key takeaways for winning this thing?
It does seem like you got the wind at your back.
It's crazy to say.
christina bobb
Yeah, no, certainly.
The strategy is the American people.
I mean, this comes down.
This is the American people's time to determine who their leaders are.
And I know there's a lot of concerns about illegals registering to vote and cleaning up the voter rolls and a lot of the concerns with election integrity.
If you have concerns about it, the way you help alleviate those concerns is to get involved.
Because the more people are involved, the more you gain the momentum yourself to realize, hey, there's a lot of us.
I spent the last couple of days in Wisconsin with a bunch of the grassroots groups out there.
And it's just really encouraging to see everybody on the ground.
I know you work with Turning Point and see all of those groups.
When you're part of a group like that, you get really excited and go, okay, we can do this.
We can do this.
But the key, truly, truly, the key to securing and prevailing in 2024 in November is...
People involved.
People involved.
We like to say, you know, the left controls the media.
It's a very far left media with the big megaphones and all that.
But we have the people.
The American people support Donald Trump.
The American people support America First values.
And so we need the American people involved.
So please get involved.
Go to protectthevote.com.
Go to Turning Point.
Go to whatever group you like.
But whatever you do, get involved because there's a place for you.
We need you.
Whatever your skill set is, however extroverted or introverted you are, there is a place for you.
So please...
Let's get involved.
benny johnson
So you just bring up something I have to ask a follow-up question on.
Criminal illegals voting in the election, that is something that is of obviously deep concern.
And many people were saying that was the play in the first place with the open border.
How do you counteract that?
And are you focused on that at the RNC?
christina bobb
A hundred percent.
That's one of our biggest focuses, actually.
And it's hard.
I'm not going to lie.
It's a very challenging issue because you want to make sure that you're protecting people who have the lawful right to vote and you don't want to be disenfranchising anybody.
It's very concerning to see massive groups of people flooding across the border and then see, I'm sure you've seen a lot of the undercover reporting coming out and information coming out saying that these groups are then registering these people to vote in all 50 states and the states that they show up in.
So it's very concerning.
Again, it's like peeing in a swimming pool.
How do you want to do it?
What I would say is we need people involved at the county level working for the counties, the people who manage voter rolls and are responsible at the counties for ensuring that lawful votes are cast.
When the mail-in ballots come in, we need to have people there making sure, you know, following the law to make sure that those votes that are coming in are lawful votes and only lawful votes are counted.
So it comes down to eyeballs.
How many eyeballs can we get on in basically the chain of custody?
Where we legally can have everybody, we need people involved because, yes, I genuinely believe this is their plan for 2024, and the way we stop it is by having as many people as possible in the chain of custody for the documents to make sure that it's the lawful votes that are counted.
benny johnson
So you genuinely believe that the plan is to have the 10 million-plus illegals that have come into this country illegally vote in the election, register them to vote?
And that will push Joe Biden over the line in a close election.
christina bobb
I think that's certainly part of their strategy.
I think it's a big part of their strategy.
And I think they care less about the illegals actually voting and care more about the registration.
We've seen that they have a very robust, whether you want to call it ballot harvesting or ballot trafficking, depending on whether it's legal or not.
We're seeing that these nonprofit organizations are stepping up to be...
Justify the residency.
They are saying, yes, these illegal immigrants are staying with us.
Their residence is with us.
So when the mail-in ballots go out, they're just getting mailed to these nonprofits because supposedly that's where these immigrants are living.
So, yeah, I definitely think that's part of their plan.
What else they're going to do, God only knows.
But that's certainly a large part of it, yeah.
benny johnson
But you're illegal.
You're illegal.
You don't have a Social Security number.
Nobody knows where you're from.
christina bobb
Illegals can get social security numbers.
They can actually.
benny johnson
So then this is the play then?
christina bobb
It's a large part of it.
I wouldn't say it's the only play, but it's certainly a part of it, yes.
And I'm not trying to scare anybody.
We can combat this.
Please don't misunderstand.
We're preparing for it, but we need the American people's help.
We need people to get involved, to have eyes on, to make sure that it's legal voters and legal votes that are cast and that our votes are not being diluted by this invasion across our southern border.
So I'm not trying to scare anybody.
The size of the problem is big, but we absolutely...
Can secure it, but we can't do it without the American people.
benny johnson
Nor am I a doomer or anything, right?
We do our best to be chipper on the program, but I just don't know how an election monitor looks at somebody with a social security number who came here illegally, who has a ballot.
Like, I don't know how they stop somebody who is unlawful to vote, but yet the system has allowed them to vote.
Like, I don't know how that stopped, right?
christina bobb
Well, yeah, it's going to depend on each state and the voting procedures for each state.
Again, we're not allowed to ask the voters their citizenship, which certainly plays into allowing the legals to register.
So there's a lot of challenges to it, but it's not insurmountable.
But there are challenges to it.
But the best solution is to make sure that as many American citizens who can legally vote and legally participate are involved in the process.
I mean, that is democracy, right?
I know we have a constitutional republic, but as far as democracy goes, isn't it best to have as many people involved in the process as possible to get the best result?
That's what it is.
We're trying to encourage is have as many people involved in the process as possible.
benny johnson
Too big to rig is my favorite campaign slogan for the president.
I hope that he trots that out.
I hope he continues that level of messaging.
You have to activate people who haven't voted in the last 40 years and let them know.
I think there's enough people pissed off at Joe Biden that it really won't matter.
That's what we see in the polls.
christina bobb
Yeah, no, I think that's right.
I genuinely think that's right.
I think President Trump is going to prevail in this election.
I don't even think it's going to be close.
Of course, we're preparing for a very close election, but I honestly don't think it's going to be.
I think it's going to be a decisive victory for Donald Trump.
We should have an answer on election night.
We're prepared if we don't.
But if we have enough people involved, just like Virginia in 2021, they had a result on election night, even though it was so close to 2020.
And I think we can do that again here.
So that's the goal.
benny johnson
So you're ready with lawsuits?
You're ready to lock down these polling locations and say no more voting, no more ballot drops at 3am?
christina bobb
We're prepared to have eyes on and do everything that we legally can do.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have control to lock down polling locations, but certainly having eyes on and...
I sincerely hope we don't get to that.
I worked post-2020, and I don't want post-election challenges this time around.
I would much rather just win outright, and that's certainly the goal.
So if we have post-election challenges, so be it.
But every intention of mine is to make sure we have an outright victory and there is no post-election challenge.
benny johnson
Good.
Okay.
Well, that would be amazing.
That's the goal.
That would make for an easier night, I suppose, for us.
We'll have champagne and we'll be ready to pop it.
Christina, Bob, we say thank you so much for your work.
Obviously, it's so great to have somebody who's willing to fight and able to fight.
Please, come on the show again.
The audience loves you.
christina bobb
Thanks, Benny.
Thanks for everything you do.
Your voice is so powerful and I'm grateful for all you're doing.
benny johnson
Godspeed.
you you All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay, so we have so many stories that we didn't get a chance to get to, but there is something that we're doing regularly with our program where we are allowing Donald Trump the capacity to speak.
This is clip E. Eric, this is clip E. Donald Trump, we didn't get a chance to go to the president and allow him to speak.
This is Trump after Stormy Daniels' testimony yesterday.
Again.
Which was a lizard lot tire fire.
And you got Donald Trump saying the case is done.
It's all collapsed.
It's all finished.
Because Trump is gagged and because Trump can't get out on the campaign trail, we feel like this is our obligation to let the president speak.
Here's Trump from yesterday.
donald j trump
So this was a very big day.
A very revealing day.
As you see, their case is totally falling apart.
They have nothing on books and records, and even something that should bear very little relationship to the case.
It's just a disaster for the DA, for the Soros-backed DA.
It's a disaster.
This whole case is just a disaster.
If you read the legal scholars, you'll see, because they're writing about it, they've never seen anything quite like it.
And neither have I. I should be out campaigning right now.
We're leading in all the polls.
I'd like to be campaigning.
We'll be leading by a lot more.
But I just want to appreciate the job you're doing.
It's not easy standing there all day waiting, but you're hearing the same things that we're hearing.
On another matter, as you know, it's Biden's backers that seem to be funding what's going on with the Palestinians.
They're probably not Palestinians.
They're agitators.
Bad agitators.
Really bad.
And I think our government ought to find out who they are, where they're from, and treat them the same way as they do the J6 hostages.
You've got to treat them the same way.
These are agitators.
They're really hurting our country.
It's happening all over the country and cities.
So what happened last night at the Metropolitan Museum, these are agitators.
And in some of the colleges, I think it's about 20% student and 80% others.
So this is a big problem, and they better nip it on the bud.
And it's a problem from the left, not from the right.
This is a problem from the left.
unidentified
And I hope you're going to stress that.
donald j trump
The economy is not doing well.
You see inflation is through the roof.
They're not going to be able to lower.
Interest rates, if they do, it's purely political.
But it'll be very bad if they do.
From the standpoint of getting rid of inflation, you have to get rid of the inflation.
Inflation, as you probably have heard me say, it's a country buster.
It busts countries.
And it has for a thousand years.
You go back and you look at old-time Germany, you look at a lot of countries that went through the kind of inflation we're going through, and they're busted.
They are...
Just broke it up.
Broke it up in many cases into little pieces.
And that's what could actually happen to us.
So we have to get inflation under control.
We have to get prices down so that people can breathe.
People can live so they can live.
But again, this was a very revealing day in court.
Any honest reporter would say that.
I would recommend you read Jonathan Turley and Andrew McCarthy and Alan Dershowitz, Greg Jarrett.
Mark Levin, a very talented people, and others, and others.
There's some incredible people out there that are writing about this trial.
They're calling it a disgrace.
It's a disgrace.
In the meantime, I'm stuck.
I'm here.
Instead of being in Georgia, instead of being in New Hampshire, instead of being in Wisconsin, and all the different states that we wanted to be in, we're not able to be there because we're stuck in this trial, which everyone knows is a hoax.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
benny johnson
It's amazing.
Have you ever heard Joe Biden talk like this?
Just an aside here.
But we're sitting in the studio.
We're just like, man, Trump's just on fire.
He's entertaining.
He's talking about the collapse.
He's off the top of his head, rattling off all the legal experts who are sounding off on this.
He's able to just go extemporaneous for three and a half minutes.
You ever seen that with Joe Biden?
You ever seen Joe Biden talk for 30 seconds?
It's remarkable.
There is so much good energy out there right now.
I got an amazing meme from one of my favorite meme makers, Dre Drefenzer, on X. I've been wanting to play this, and I thought right after the Trump clip would be a perfect time to play this.
if you're a Dark Knight fan, you're going to love this one.
unidentified
Okay, hold on.
benny johnson
Let's play it again.
Let's play it again.
unidentified
Jack Smith, Washington DC.
Okay, all right, good.
benny johnson
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Donald Trump giving his commentary at the court with his gold tie looking sharp.
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We have no idea what chemical...
Chemical effect salt has on gold.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We're not sure.
We should look it up.
But we do know that there is a salty, salty clip out there that we will play for you right now of Jen Psaki.
Jen Psaki is the former spokesperson for Joe Biden.
Jen Psaki was on her little MSNBC show, the show that, by the way, she had already signed a contract for while she continued to be Joe Biden's spokesperson.
unidentified
Okay?
benny johnson
Think about that.
So she was in the White House acting as the spokesperson for Joe Biden.
She'd already signed her MSNBC contract three months earlier.
And so she's able to do that, those jobs, simultaneously.
In case you're wondering, like, what a fraudulent system we live in.
We got our salt here, ladies and gentlemen.
We got also our salt shaker that was made by a wonderful brigade member.
Here we go.
So we got dual salt.
Jen Psaki was giving advice to her old boss.
Saying, um, hey, uh, Joe, you should just stop talking!
You need to stop talking!
Don't do any interviews!
You're old, you smell like milk of magnesia mixed with mothballs, you have applesauce dribbling down your face, and you walk like you have a diaper to change.
And so, there really is no reason for you to ever speak to anyone.
Here, ladies and gentlemen, is our Salt That Lib of the day.
Drop salt in the comment section.
We'll put it up on screen.
Allow us to add some extra sodium to Gen Sodium Salty Sake.
Let's go.
alyssa farah griffin
A lot of criticism of Biden, most recently from the New York Times, that he's held the fewest interviews and press availabilities of any president since Reagan.
I personally think it would help dispel some of the concerns about his age if he did more.
What would your advice be to the White House in terms of his accessibility to press?
jen psaki
Well, I think the benefit of the media environment right now, there's a lot of challenges, but I'm going to start with the optimistic side, is that there are so many choices.
And when you're communicating from the White House, I mean, respect for freedom of speech and freedom of the press is important, but you're also really trying to communicate with the American people.
So my view is, he should come on The View before he does a press conference.
alyssa farah griffin
Thank you!
unidentified
He should, because people want to have real conversations.
benny johnson
First time I'll ever say this.
Joe Biden, you should listen to your really smart advisor, Jen Psaki.
You should totally go on The View.
We'd love that.
That would be hilarious.
Do it.
Do it live.
Let's go.
We've seen what it looks like when Joe Biden goes on late night TV.
We have clips of Jimmy Kimmel literally needing to cut off Joe Biden.
Joe Biden having senior moments spiraling.
And Jimmy Kimmel cuts him off and is like, let's go to a commercial break, okay?
I gotta get out of here.
Do it.
Just do it.
Kamala Harris on Drew Barrymore's show, right?
Creepy, cringy little show.
Do it, you frauds.
And then, by the way, make The View bring Donald Trump on.
There are studios in New York.
Bring on Donald Trump.
Come on.
unidentified
Oh!
benny johnson
We're here for it!
And most importantly...
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We will mail you every new brigade member gets the official brigade key chain mailed directly to them.
And most importantly, You support what we do here, and we really deeply, profoundly appreciate that.
Costs less than a McDonald's french fry per month, and, well, free speech is priceless.
And McDonald's french fries have a lot of salt on them.
So we also like salt.
So there you go.
I'm not telling you to go eat french fries.
I am going to tell you the truth, though, right now at our verse of the day.
We say a lot on this program, but we ensure that we always speak the truth for our verse of the day from Psalms.
The Lord is with me.
I will not be afraid.
What mere mortals can do to me?
What can they do?
If the Lord is with me, I will not be afraid.
Christina Bob said, hey, maybe what's happening here is providential.
We don't know.
But we know this.
You can fear not.
In fact, you're commanded to fear not.
365 times in the Bible, it says fear not.
So make sure that you, like, tighten up, right?
Don't fear.
unidentified
Don't be fearful, ladies and gentlemen.
benny johnson
Like, keep your head held high and keep your chest upright.
Stand upright and march on.
March on with us.
It's your boy, Benny.
We're on to victory.
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