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Jan. 31, 2024 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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Big Fanni Willis BOMBSHELL! Fired Whistleblower EXPOSES Everything, Lover Boy REFUSES To Go To COURT
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harris faulkner
When some of your friends come for you, oh boy, fellow allies of the district attorney, Fannie Willis, want her to step away from the Trump election interference case in Georgia.
Concerns are growing over her alleged love affair with Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor she chose, she hired to lead the case, one that's arguably the biggest of her career.
Documents from Wade's divorce proceedings Show Wade spent thousands of dollars on lavish vacations and even bought an airline ticket in Fannie Willis' name.
And this could all come up when Nathan Wade has to testify two days from now in his divorce case.
Meanwhile, attorneys for former DOJ lawyer Jeffrey Clark are demanding that all communications between the Biden administration and the Biden administration be made public.
They claim Wade and Willis had two separate meetings at the White House.
And former prosecutor Andrew Tchaikovsky said this.
unidentified
I'm not sure if this is more soap opera or like John Grisham legal thriller, because the cards seem to be falling for Fannie Willis.
What I really want to know about those meetings is whether there was an improper purpose.
Were they trying to set the timing up so that it would interfere with the 2024 election?
All of these questions need very serious answers.
My dearest Fannie, I'm writing to you from the backline bunker basement in the White House to remind you that orange mad bat.
Also, it appears your fornication has not gone unnoticed.
Fornication.
That word should bring new meaning to all of us, considering that we are all f***ed in this next election if you do not put Trump in jail.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go start a war with Texas because I'm a little short on votes right now.
Signed, your biggest Fannie.
Love, Joe.
Go get him.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
benny johnson
One of the best, baby!
Good job, Jerry.
Today is Wednesday, January 31st, 2024.
We've almost made it through January.
Will Fanny Willis?
Big Fanny Willis!
Make it any longer in the trial of the century against Donald Trump.
We now have exclusive audio of Fannie Willis firing a whistleblower, and that whistleblower exposes everything.
Lead prosecutor Loverboy in Trump's Georgia case refuses to show up in court.
Another contempt charge.
And Democrats panic over Trump's border plans that include alligator moats and bombing Mexico and electrified fences.
Mike Benz joins the show to talk about political psyops.
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Ladies and gentlemen...
We may have heads on platters, metaphorically, when it comes to the prosecution of Donald Trump in Georgia.
There were so many big news drops this morning, it's actually hard to keep up with them.
There are three corresponding stories when it comes to Big Fannie Willis in Georgia, and we have actually moved beyond the funny puns.
Now we are looking at actual obstruction of justice from Fannie Willis' office, ladies and gentlemen.
The House Judiciary actually tweeting about it this morning.
You can't make it up, baby.
You cannot make it up.
How corrupt Fannie Willis' office is.
And that comes directly in line with a member of the squad, Cori Bush, who's now being investigated by the DOJ.
And we have all of it for you here in our A Block.
Let's start with Fannie Willis, okay?
Because they're...
They're the same crimes, okay?
Fannie Willis using taxpayer money to pay Loverboy is the same thing that Cori Bush squad member is being investigated by Joe Biden's DOJ for doing with her Loverboy security staffer.
It's amazing, and it is particularly juicy.
Georgia Lieutenant Governor Burt Jones announces members of new investigatory committee looking into Fannie Willis.
Oh, baby.
The backlash is here.
Now, finally, The Georgia government is looking into the way that Fannie Willis is spending her money.
Ladies and gentlemen, there was a whistleblower in Fannie Willis' office.
This audio is brand new.
As of this morning, Fannie Willis fired a whistleblower after being warned that the top aide wanted to misuse federal funds.
Fannie Willis is, of course, getting paid a massive amount of money to go after Donald Trump in court, and that money is coming from the feds.
Fannie Willis, coordinated with the Biden White House, coordinated with the January 6th Committee, and now Fannie Willis is firing people who are trying to blow the whistle on her.
Well, that's obstruction of justice.
This is going to get into the criminal territory very, very soon.
Now, let's first off play you the actual warning here.
Something very important to pay attention to in this audio is that the person is saying that we're not able to use this money for MacBooks and swag and travel.
You can't just do that.
This is a very specific grant to go after Donald Trump.
The federal government is funding you going after Donald Trump in this election case.
So this whistleblower is straight up saying they're stealing the money.
They're embezzling the taxpayer cash for themselves.
And this is actually happening in two different federal cases.
When does it become a federal case?
Fannie Willis is in big trouble.
We want to make a bunch of puns here, right?
About how Fannie Willis maybe...
Having to do hard time, right?
But, like, quite literally, Big Fanny is in big trouble.
Watch.
unidentified
If you had to give me a sentence, what is the sentence being?
Once I told him about his, respectfully, and in an email about his lack of leadership and the fact that he wanted to do things with grants, that...
We're impossible.
And I kept telling him, like, we can't do that.
And questioning stuff.
He would take me off projects, tell people I wasn't doing what I was supposed to because I questioned him.
Because I understood.
I helped write that grant.
I knew what was in that grant.
He told everybody in front of Crystal, Deontay, everybody.
We're going to get MacBooks.
We're going to get swag.
We're going to use it for travel.
I said, you cannot do that.
It's a very, very specific grant.
Took me off.
I questioned Junior DA.
There's kids in there from out of the county.
All this.
Took me off Junior DA.
I did not want to do it.
He made it look as if I wasn't doing what I needed to do because I questioned him.
Because I knew for a fact Mr. Cutfield respectfully did not know what he was doing.
Period.
So, I respect that as your assessment.
It was clear to me that you and Mr. Cuffey were not getting along.
And I'm not saying that your assessment is wrong.
I want you to really listen to the words I'm saying.
benny johnson
So, wait a second.
That lady was fired for blowing the whistle on Fannie Willis misusing federal funds.
These are the same federal funds, by the way, that were used to go on lavish vacations with Loverboy.
Just a reminder, Fannie Willis wants to tell you from the pulpit of a church how moral she is.
Yet she is here breaking up a marriage.
This guy's married.
She's using the federal funds to go on cruise ships and to Napa Valley with this guy while he's married.
And yet Fanny Willis stands there on a pulpit and doesn't turn into a pillar of salt.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got a pillar of salt, by the way, in the studio.
We officially have.
We officially have our Salt That Lib massive salt shaker.
We're working on it.
unidentified
Okay?
benny johnson
We're working on it.
It's a, uh, salt.
Salt.
It's a prototype.
It's a prototype.
We're going to get it down.
Okay, and we have plenty of libs to salt later on in the show.
Oh, we kicked a little bit of a hornet's nest, and we're going to explain.
But, ladies and gentlemen, right now, Fanny Willis, ooh, baby, she's the one trying to tell you that she deserves All of your faith and credit, because she's a black woman, and black women can't be perfect, but that she is on the road that Christ has laid down for her.
Now, I'm not going to, I'm not a theologian, not going to talk about, like, her personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
I have my own simple Christian relationship with Jesus Christ.
But something that you shouldn't do is use that relationship as a pivoting point to say that immoral things you're doing are moral.
That's not how the gospel works.
Gospel isn't silly putty that you, like...
Pat around your immoral activity and going on, going out with a married man and breaking up his marriage and using taxpayer dollars that were meant to be used on a prosecution of Trump, however evil that happens to be, but either way, being misspent.
So you can go on cruise ship trips with Loverboy?
Baby.
That's not the way the gospel works.
Speaking here as a simple Christian.
Here we go.
Fannie Willis, axed employee who blew whistle on misuse of federal funds.
Ooh, man.
Embattled Georgia DA has a pattern of ethical violations and abuse of power, misusing funds, whistleblower says.
Now, here's something very important about this article.
There are recordings.
What's that about?
So her employees know that there are recordings of her committing these crimes.
She's doing crimes and people are taping her?
Uh.
How bad is this going to get for Fannie?
This ain't good, okay?
This isn't like a reporter heard through a source who heard through a source who heard at a bar.
This is we have the hard evidence of Fannie Willis punishing a whistleblower for talking about the misuse of federal funds.
Fannie Willis may have fired the employee who warned her about mishandling federal funds.
She didn't deny her allegations less than a year into her tenure as Fulton County District Okay, let's pay attention here.
People inside of Fannie Willis' office are...
Recording Fannie Willis' activities.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
benny johnson
Timpson claimed that Willis, that she had been demoted after attempting to stop the Willis campaign aide for misusing federal grant money.
According to Timpson, the aide planned to use part of a $500,000 federal grant earmarked creation of the Center for Youth Empowerment to pay for swag, computers, and their own travel.
Ooh, baby.
He wanted to do things that Grant were impossible.
And I kept telling him, like, we can't do that.
So this is systemic.
This is systemic.
This is very much not good.
Just at time, literally at time of recording, the House Judiciary Committee tweeted this article.
Fannie Willis is now asking for $600,000 in money for new cars.
Amid allegations that she mismanaged taxpayer funds, Fannie Willis requests $600,000 for new cars.
Vehicles.
Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis wants to treat her staff to brand new taxpayer-funded cars.
She rides out the allegations that she misappropriated county funds to enrich her lover.
Willis on Wednesday requested $600,000 from the Fulton County Board of Commissioners to purchase up to 16 pursuit and special service vehicles for law enforcement and administration purposes.
What is this?
This is Fannie Willis wanting to buy herself a motorcade.
Now we're going to cover what was happening with Congresswoman Cori Bush, a vaunted member of the squad, in just a second, but it's the same thing.
These people who defund the police, who create hell on earth, third world conditions for their voters and the people that they're supposed to protect, these people are the ones with the security, the guns, the staffing 24-7 in the armored vehicles.
Same as Fannie Willis, same as Cori Bush.
These stories are happening in parallel, and it's really funny and ironic, and it's the most entertaining outcome.
But ladies and gentlemen, that's not the only thing that happened.
Now we know that Fanny Willis' lover boy skipped out on his court date.
Lover boy, apparently, did not show up for his scheduled court date.
Yesterday, the lead prosecutor in the Georgia election interference case against Trump dodged a hearing where he likely would have had to testify about allegations of impropriety with the Fulton County DA Fannie Willis.
This from Axios.
What right-wing conspiracy site are you reading?
Axios.
So Loverboy couldn't face the music.
Lead prosecutor in Georgia's 2020 election interference case, former president, dodged a hearing Wednesday where he likely would have had to testify about his relationship.
Unsubstantiated allegations, blah, blah, blah, jeopardize the high-profile case.
Wade and Willis may have all of their charges tossed because of the impropriety.
The hearing in Wade's divorce case was canceled after he reached a last-minute settlement with his estranged wife, multiple outlets reported.
The arrangement staved off his testimony on the allegations with Willis for now.
The Republican political operation co-defendant in the Georgia case made first public accusations of an improper relationship and alleged financial misconduct between Wade and Willis in a filing in January.
After Roman's filing, Wade's estranged wife divulged financial statements and emotion on the couple's divorce proceedings, showing that they took two airline trips to Miami and San Francisco with Wade during the election probe, the Washington Post reported.
Trump's legal team last week cited the allegations in a request of the judge.
So this is unraveling very quickly.
Trust me when I say this.
A guy who is like a greaseball, slip-and-fall, ambulance chaser, lawyer, the guy who puts his face on the benches where the bums piss themselves overnight, that's the Nathan Wade.
We'll go through a little bit of his pedigree here in a second.
But this kind of guy, he doesn't settle.
These guys don't settle cases with their ex-wives.
He's suddenly settled in an emergency filing?
That means we're over the target.
Like, any time that they behave in a manner that is, like, in panic and admits to wrongdoing, that means they felt the pressure, and that means that we're winning.
So it looks like they reached a last-minute settlement.
The arrangement staved off his testimony for now.
They'll still have to testify about this when they bring their allegations, and there's a judge that is now demanding that Fannie Willis answer a ton of questions about this.
Ooh, baby, it is heating up.
This is going to be very, very interesting.
The whistleblower angle and the firing of the whistleblower is very interesting because there are actually laws that protect whistleblowers in all 50 states and on a federal level.
Fannie Willis getting federal money would be in violation of those federal statutes.
A compelling case.
Fannie Willis may well be under then federal investigation for punishing a whistleblower that was going to expose her misuse of federal funds.
Now, those funds didn't happen to be for the Trump case.
This was before the Trump case.
I want to make that very clear.
But nonetheless, this shows, of course, a pattern for Big Fannie.
And the residents are now being totally and completely blackpilled.
As to what their representation legally is up to.
Residents are beginning to snap and are beginning to then question Fannie Willis and her management of this entire system.
Now, as we've shown you, the residents in Fulton County got out of their homes and cheered for Donald Trump.
Okay?
Like when Donald Trump got the famous mugshot that sits behind me in the studio, the residents left their homes and cheered for him in the street.
So these are the kind of people that Fannie Willis is dealing with.
Now those people are going to public hearings and saying that the only way to get something done is to date Fannie Willis in the courtroom.
Check this out.
unidentified
It's over.
Well, I want to let you know that Derek Blass again, I'm done with Fulton County fumbling out our elections.
I'm done with the gross mismanagement of our taxpayer dollars by the Fulton County Democrats on this body.
I'm disgusted at the information that is coming out of the district attorney's office as a taxpayer.
I am done with most of your silence at the DA's apparent love affair with the special prosecutor and gross mismanagement of taxpayers' dollars to pursue what appears to be a frivolous lawsuit based off of partisan politics.
Apparently, guys like me need to court Fulton County female executives if we want to free wide.
Apparently, we need to pursue Natalie Hall and Fannie Willis, or maybe the executives in other departments, if we want a full ride and full pay.
The DA appears to be trying to protect past elections, but upon information of belief, she's trying to interfere with future elections by trying to convict a candidate before the general election.
I'm requesting a financial audit to be done by the county auditor.
benny johnson
So this guy is saying that Fannie Willis is rigging an election.
This resident of Fannie Willis, this voter, is saying that Fannie Willis, the only way to actually get access to Fannie Willis would be to date her.
Just like the attorney is doing on this Trump case.
And it's worth actually reminding everyone who this person is.
This man, his name's...
His name's Nathan Wade.
He is generously referred to as Loverboy.
And Loverboy...
And this is not a joke.
I mean, I guess it is kind of a joke.
All of it's quite hysterical how stupid these people are.
This guy's billing Big Fanny for his work past midnight.
So what exactly is Loverboy billing Big Fanny for?
I'll let you fill in the blank.
We can't say it on this show because we're trying to do a family-friendly show.
But ladies and gentlemen, let's just say Big Fannie is getting her money's worth.
Watch.
jesse watters
Fannie Willis' lover boy, Nathan Wade, might be the hardest working lawyer in America.
Nathan allegedly billed taxpayers for 24 hours of work on the Trump-Georgia case in a single day.
That means Nathan was working all day and all night on Fannie's case.
What would Loverboy be working on past midnight?
He wouldn't be billing Fannie.
No, he couldn't be.
I'm sure he was just burning the midnight oil at the office.
Loverboy's billed nearly 700 grand.
Is he making more than the lawyers who aren't sleeping with Fannie?
Is he making more because he's more qualified than they are?
Or is the lover just working harder?
benny johnson
Okay, we can't.
Now, now we cannot.
Now we can no longer help ourselves.
We're going to wade into some of the puns here.
Will Big Fanny get pounded in court?
Will she have to do hard time?
Will she face the wood of the gavel?
Only time will tell.
But Jesse Waters, it is great credit to him and his team for pulling Loverboy's record.
Now, they'll write books about the case against Donald Trump.
They'll write all the books they possibly can.
I mean, this is obviously a historic case.
And so you'd assume that you'd want a lawyer that has some type of background in criminal law.
I know we've covered this before, but it's worth repeating.
If you need a heart transplant, you go to a heart surgeon.
There are a lot of different kind of doctors out there, a lot of different kind of lawyers out there.
Lawyers have specialties, doctors have specialties, mechanics have specialties, a lot of people have specialties.
We have a specialty, right?
And so you wouldn't hire a guy whose only pedigree is changing names and then suing people in small claims court over stolen DJ equipment to prosecute Donald Trump, unless there was something else going on.
Here's Loverboy's pedigree.
Just a reminder, you're paying this guy nearly a million dollars.
To go after Donald Trump and keep him off the ballot.
watch.
unidentified
God, wasn't it them that attacked this lawyer of impeccable credentials?
Is it that some will never see a black man as qualified, no matter his achievements?
What more can one achieve?
jesse watters
Well, the race card isn't going to get you out of this one, Fannie.
We found Loverboy's resume.
Impeccable?
Not a word I'd use to describe Nathan Wade's credentials.
Some of his highest profile cases involve...
Car accidents.
Loverboy represented a lady who was rear-ended by a beer truck.
He tried getting her $300,000 for emotional and physical damages, but the case was dismissed.
Loverboy's a piranha in small claims court.
He represented an electronics store who claimed the customer owed him $11,000 for some speakers.
Wade won that one.
And his biggest court victory of all time?
Nathan Wade helped two people.
Get their names changed.
benny johnson
It's Nathan Wade who will probably need to get his name changed after all of this.
Check out some of these, like, snap headlines.
Fulton County Prosecutor Fannie Willis' romantic partner met with Biden White House twice before charging Trump.
Well, this looks like collusion.
Check this out.
We actually have the record of it.
We'll always show you the evidence and the data.
Here is the record of it.
Boom!
Straight from the White House visitor logs.
Strangely...
This guy, who is an ambulance-chasing slip-and-fall, bum-piss-bench lawyer, this guy is getting long meetings with the White House counsel.
I mean, look at the sizes.
It's crazy.
This guy is billing 24 hours straight for these visits with the White House.
And then, of course, Fannie Willis was at the White House less than a week after the Georgia grand jury released their report recommending charges against Trump.
What a coincidence.
Vote recommended charges.
Fannie Willis runs to the White House as soon as she gets her grand jury.
It's all, like, quite frankly, embarrassing.
The collusion and the coordination, which I suppose is, like, going to be a theme of the show.
It's not a crime to notice this stuff.
Like, being a noticer isn't a crime.
It's actually a really good thing.
Sort of shows...
The people who are doing the coordinating, that we are paying attention, they really don't want that.
They want us all to act like we're living in a Hallmark movie.
It's not.
It's actually kind of terrifying.
Who are the people, by the way, that Fannie Willis used in order to get the conviction of Donald Trump?
We don't talk about this enough, but the foreperson that Fannie Willis used to convict Donald Trump is which?
Yes, I know.
There are a lot of pejoratives being flung around right now, and so we're going to try our hardest to, like, Keep it centered.
She's a witch!
This isn't a Monty Python episode.
She's a witch.
Like, she says so, she brags about it, and she casts spells.
And so I'll let you, like, be the judge of her mental state here in some of these news clips that they did before her publicist decided to yank her off TV.
Here you go.
This is the lady in charge of convicting Trump.
jen psaki
Did you personally want to hear from the former president?
unidentified
I wanted to hear from the former president, but honestly, I kind of wanted to subpoena the former president because I got to swear everybody in.
And so I thought it'd be really cool to get 60 seconds with President Trump of me looking at him and being like, do you solemnly swear?
And me getting to swear him in, I just, I kind of just thought that would be an awesome moment.
benny johnson
It's like what happens when the theater kids take over politics.
We've been talking about this.
She was near, she was, like CNN couldn't get her off camera fast enough last night.
Sorry, not last night.
But when she was doing her interview rounds, they couldn't get Emily Coors, which is this person's name, off camera fast enough.
Because her eyes were literally rolling in the back of her head like the poltergeist.
Like the exorcist.
Here's your trigger warning.
If you are allergic to witches, here you go.
kate bolduan
Is it, would you say, when it comes to, there are indictments recommended, of course.
Is it more than 12 people?
Is it more than 20 people?
unidentified
I think if you look at the page numbers of the report, there's about six pages in the middle that got cut out.
Allow for spacing?
It's not a short list.
kate bolduan
Not a short list.
More, I mean, when it comes to...
unidentified
The dramatic zoom.
benny johnson
I like it, Rolls Royce.
Look at that.
I mean, okay.
This is the person that Fannie Willis tapped to indict Trump.
This is the character of Fannie Willis.
Inside Trump grand jury, four persons bonkers Pinterest account, which promotes witchcraft.
This from the New York Post.
Fannie, don't be mean!
unidentified
Don't be mean!
benny johnson
How are you so mean to these people?
Okay, fine.
Let's let them speak for themselves.
Here are her posts about Wicca, witchcraft, and paganism.
This is directly from Emily Coors' Pinterest account.
Here's Emily Coors casting a pentagram.
This is the symbol of the satanic church.
There it is, the pentagram once again.
Basic altar layout.
Well, I mean, you know.
Am I allowed to notice these things?
Our crime is noticing?
unidentified
Got it.
benny johnson
So, ladies and gentlemen, this is such a disaster.
We're really excited that it is spiraling out of control.
And this is one that we've really sunk our teeth into.
Because I believe on a strategic level that we have a chance to actually change the game down here.
They're feeling the pressure.
Loverboy is settling out of court with his ex-wife to try and keep all this under wraps.
That means we're over the target.
It's going to be a theme of the show today, is being strategic with our energy and where we're spending it, okay?
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Somebody who should be protecting...
I don't know if there's anybody watching from the Midwest.
If you're watching from Missouri, shout yourself out in the comment section.
Corey Bush represents this part of St. Louis that looks far more like a city that had just been bombed by the Allies in World War II, like carpet bombed.
Looks like Dresden.
You ever drive through St. Louis?
You ever drive through Cori Bush's, what she represents?
I mean, it's true.
These places should just be declared disaster zones and should have the federal government go through and maybe just bulldoze everything and try and rebuild eventually.
Because there truly are third-world countries that exist inside of this country.
The city of Baltimore is very similar to this.
You drive through Baltimore, it's just row after row after row of, like, bombed-out, empty-shell houses and the same thing here with St. Louis.
Now, I say this, obviously, because I've gone to this district and I was repulsed by it, but it actually makes sense.
The way a representative democracy works is you're going to send people who represent this broke-ass district to Congress and, well, maybe they're not sending their best, okay?
Maybe they're not sending their best.
Cori Bush blames right-wing organizations!
For DOJ investigation that she needed $750,000 in security details to deal with relentless threats.
Now, this is like so weird.
We talk a lot about the Old Testament here and we talk a lot about God's justice and how hilarious it is and how entertaining it is at times, right?
Various kings like Nebuchadnezzar being forced to get on all fours and crawl and eat grass like an animal.
I find it particularly interesting because $750,000 is exactly what Loverboy has billed Fannie Willis.
Where did all that money go?
To Cori Bush's Loverboy!
It's the same story!
Democrats claim she hired husband for his experience, denies misusing funds.
So, okay, this is a hilarious story because Cori Bush herself is inadvertently Hilarious.
Now, we have here Cori Bush flashback.
Is this her talking about BLM?
Yeah, okay.
When this story first came out, she went on TV, always a bad thing to do, a story showing that she was using hundreds of thousands of dollars, went on TV, and tried to defend it.
She was paying her boyfriend at the time.
This guy has since married Cori Bush, and, you know, thoughts and prayers for this man.
unidentified
But...
benny johnson
She went on TV and defended it in such a hilariously low-information way that it just makes you chuckle.
It's just worth, like, kind of sitting back and laughing.
Here's Cori Bush, when this bombshell first dropped, going on and saying, I'm going to spend as much money as I possibly can on my security, and also, we need to defund the police.
unidentified
It's too good!
benny johnson
It's not AI, I promise you.
We didn't make this up.
unidentified
Watch.
I won't let them get that off.
You can't get that off.
I'm going to make sure I have security because I know I have had attempts on my life and I have too much work to do.
There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that.
So if I end up spending $200,000, if I spend $10 more on it, you know what?
I get to be here to do the work.
So suck it up and defunding the police has to happen.
We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets.
benny johnson
These people, if they are something, they're not students of history.
When Stalin banned private property ownership under the Soviet regime, Stalin made sure that he himself owned multiple lavish palaces in every province of the Soviet Union.
He was the largest landowner in the Soviet Union, private landowner.
You weren't allowed to go into Stalin's palace.
So he banned private ownership of property for everyone else but himself.
It is the communist tactic to do these things.
And so it is also the communist tactic, of course, to blame your political enemy when you've been caught dead to rights.
Another theme of the show, which we'll get to in just a second.
So, Cori Bush, who says, I will spend tens of hundreds, tens of hundreds of thousands of tens of hundreds of thousands of bajillion, quadrillion dollars on my...
Security detail, which what she's saying here is I'm going to launder money to my husband, who will then spend it on me.
This is the racket here.
It's actually like a really cute miniature version of the Biden crime family.
I will bill the taxpayers and then lavish my family with cash, and that kicks it back to me.
Bob Menendez.
Hunter Biden.
Cori Bush.
Fannie Willis.
Are you starting to see a trend?
So, Cori Bush has followed the Marxist tactic of then scapegoating for her federal crimes here, you and me.
She's blaming us for this, which again is textbook.
It's incredible.
Watch.
unidentified
In recent months, right-wing organizations have lodged baseless complaints against me.
Peddling notions that I have misused campaign funds to pay for personal security services.
That simply is not true.
I have complied with all applicable laws and house rules and will continue to prioritize the rules that govern us as federal elected officials.
In particular, the nature of these allegations have been around my husband's role on the campaign.
In accordance with all applicable rules, I retained my husband as part of my security team to provide security services because he has had extensive experience in this area.
and is able to provide the necessary services at or below fair market rate.
These frivolous complaints have resulted in a number of investigations, some of which are still ongoing.
The Federal Election Commission and the House Committee on Ethics are currently reviewing the matter.
benny johnson
The Department of Justice on Monday subpoenaed the House Sergeant at Arms for records related to the misuse of funds for private security.
When confronted by the media Monday night...
Bush insisted that she wasn't the subject of the investigation and scolded reporters.
unidentified
So she lied.
benny johnson
This is, of course, no shock.
Cori Bush, not the brightest bulb.
The investigation follows an ethics watchdog demanding and investigating into the $62,000 she paid her now husband, Courtney Merritts, from her campaign funds.
So this is the same scam.
The Biden scam, the Fannie Willis scam, Bob Menendez, it's the same scam.
Now, there are two things that I wish to add to this, which I think is, we might actually try and defend Cori Bush here.
Cori Bush may be the subject of the regime wishing to get some revenge for recent comments.
Cori Bush was asked over the past year whether she wants Joe Biden to run for president.
Now, Cori Bush isn't particularly powerful, but she's part of the squad, and she's seen as one of these younger, intersectionally diverse feminist leaders in Congress, okay?
Call it what you will.
She's being used by the Democratic machine in order to push certain agendas.
And so she has some power on those merits.
Those intersectionality merits, if you wish to call them that.
And so when Cori Bush does an interview and is asked, do you want Joe Biden to run for president?
And this is the answer.
Tell me that this isn't noticed by Biden's DOJ.
And they're not saying, oh, we have a way to get you in line here, lady.
Watch.
unidentified
Do you want to see Joe Biden run for a second term?
Yeah, I, you know.
That's an easy question.
benny johnson
It's not going to take long.
unidentified
Do you want to see Joe Biden?
I don't want to answer that question because we have not, that's not, yeah, I don't want to answer that question.
Okay.
I mean, he's the president and he has the right to run for a second term, absolutely.
But I don't want to, I don't want, I'd rather you not do that answer.
Yeah, I know, I got to get to the other thing.
Well, thanks very much.
I appreciate it.
benny johnson
Here's the other thing that we wish to say when it comes to Cori Bush.
She's not actually good at this.
unidentified
She's not good at the whole numbers game.
benny johnson
She was asked about marginal tax rates during a live Fox hit, and it didn't go great.
So in her defense, and as somebody who's not great at numbers myself, I have an accountant, I have a CPA, make sure that everything's in line with my taxes.
You don't want me doing your taxes, okay?
It's good to know your strengths and weaknesses, let's just say, right?
Here's Cori Bush being asked about marginal tax rates in what is absolutely one of the cringiest clips that exist on the internet.
This is our cringe alert for the day.
Watch Cori Bush try and do some taxes.
unidentified
So you're saying that they're paying their fair share is what you're saying.
No, I'm asking what percentage is a fair share.
If I'm paying, if a third of my money is going to taxes, then I think a third of their money should be going to taxes.
It does.
Well, it does.
I'm trying to understand because you realize the effective tax rate on the poor is less than it is on the rich, right?
Okay, so first of all.
I'm not the poor.
I'm very close to that line, but I'm not the poor.
Okay, so the effective tax rate on the middle class is less than it is on the rich, correct?
What fair share would you like to choose?
benny johnson
Never a great sign, right?
Never a great sign.
The rich pay over 50% of the taxable by the rich.
I mean, the top 1% pay more than 50%.
The rest of that is made up by the middle class.
And I will certainly argue that that money is atrociously misused.
But that is where the money comes from.
It does not actually come from the poor.
And this has always been the PSYOP about the income tax.
The whole reason they were able to get an income tax was because the government lied to people.
Last century.
And said it will just be for the rich.
But in fact, the vast majority of the taxable burden is always shoveled off to the middle class.
The rich maybe should pay more in taxes, but the rich have great accountants, offshore accounts, and are smart enough to not pay taxes, to figure out legal ways to not pay taxes.
And some people, illegal ways to not pay taxes.
Look at Sam Bankman Freed.
But just like Sam Bankman Freed, You can't get a get-out-of-jail-free card if you're not sufficiently, if you don't have sufficient fealty to the regime.
And that is precisely what's happening with Cori Bush, I think.
I think that Cori Bush has been super critical of Joe Biden, the regime and his policies, and that they are now committing a vengeance against her because of that.
Cori Bush did not toe the line, and now she's seeing what happens.
That's what I personally believe.
What do you believe?
Let me know in the comment section.
I'm not saying that Cori Bush behaved ethically.
She, of course, did not, obviously.
It's the same game.
It's just they're picking and choosing who they're prosecuting, just like Donald Trump, for political gain and for leverage, right?
And politics itself is a leverage game.
Politics itself is using influence, and always has been, Using influence in order to gain credit with the American people and affect the vote one way or the other.
The celebrity endorsement game has always been at play in American politics.
We've created a bit of a crisis in the corporate media ecosystem by simply noticing what's going on in our country.
If we are committing a sin on this show, it's that we are noticers.
I don't portend to be some Ivy League educated genius.
I would argue that I probably have a room temperature IQ.
My superpower is I'm alive, which is a blessing from God, and we pay attention and we follow the trends.
Just so we can follow the trends with what's going on with Fannie Willis, Cori Bush, how that connects to Bob Menendez, Joe Biden.
The trail is there.
My grandmother used to say, you're smart, but you're not as smart as you think you are.
And everyone can always see the game at stake here.
And what is the game that's being set up right now?
The game that is being set up right now, that I think is so particularly, actually, hilariously funny, that somehow people are trying to keep this a secret, yet publish headlines like this at the New York Times.
The game that's being set up right now is that Taylor Swift is going to come in and save Joe Biden, which on a strategic level is really smart because Joe Biden sucks with young kids.
Donald Trump is winning the youth vote right now.
The 18 to 35 vote is saying life sucks under Joe Biden.
Joe Biden is too old.
Joe Biden won't have to live with the consequences of his actions.
Joe Biden is corrupt.
Joe Biden sniffs kids.
And so the play, and the play is always like this, that you bring in someone young to go and sidle up to Biden and to say it's okay to vote for this old diseased man.
Biden will be there in a wheelchair, be drooling, he'll have his chipmunk nuts chin.
He'll have a glazed face looking like he just came out of the Krispy Kreme.
Looking like an eggplant.
And they're going to get their celebrity endorsement.
Taylor Swift's already endorsed Joe Biden!
Like, it already happened in 2020.
And it's going to happen again in 2024.
This is her endorsing Joe Biden in 2024.
If you read this tweet, she says she can't wait to scream at the TV to support Kamala Harris.
I'm going to be yelling at the TV a lot, Taylor Swift says.
Okay, well then I believe Taylor Swift.
I believe what she says when she says she's baking cookies with Joe Biden's logo on them.
All right, I'm just a noticer.
And I've noticed that a lot of people are publishing about how Taylor Swift can win the election for Joe Biden.
By swinging the youth vote, which Joe Biden has lost, he's also lost huge margins in the Latino and the black vote.
By swinging that youth vote, Back to Biden.
Now, why also is this important?
The power of celebrity was often in the hands of the left.
In fact, for every election, probably since Reagan, Ronald Reagan was the last time you had celebrities actually endorsing or campaigning with or for a Republican candidate.
There's, I think, Like people like Frank Sinatra endorsed Ronald Reagan.
Donald Trump is the biggest celebrity, human celebrity to ever live.
That's inarguable.
He is bigger than Elvis.
He is bigger than the Beatles.
Elvis never had nukes.
The Beatles didn't have a standing army.
Donald Trump's been president and is therefore the largest celebrity ever known, like known, the largest human celebrity ever known to man.
They have nothing to counter him with.
And so it's actually quite strategic to have Taylor Swift come out and endorse Joe Biden because then you actually are trying to leverage the power of the celebrity couple for Joe Biden.
Joe Biden doesn't have a campaign.
Joe Biden has no celebrity in comparison to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the celebrity.
And that's what they can't figure out.
How do they counter Donald Trump's celebrity?
Rob Reiner?
They wheel out Rob Reiner?
On a breathing machine?
Whoopi Goldberg?
Kathy Griffin?
That's your counter to Donald Trump?
It's so sad.
Rothie O'Donnell?
And so they're desperate.
And they need to depend on Taylor Swift.
In fact, I think it is in this New York Times article.
ALX also grabbed me that MSNBC article saying that Taylor Swift will save Joe Biden.
They published this, right?
In the New York Times article, they talk about how the Biden campaign already has this wired.
How the Biden campaign, I believe it's this article, already has the mechanisms in place for this endorsement, and they already know how they're going to do it.
They've asked people applying to work on the campaign to stop sending them recommendations for Taylor Swift because they already have that.
They already have that.
That's in the article.
It's not wrong for noticing that that's what they're talking about.
So, two things.
This is already planned.
It is centrally organized.
Taylor Swift's already endorsed Joe Biden in 2020.
I portend.
My guess is that she's going to do it again in 2024.
And that it's centrally organized, as all of these things are.
The extra publicity that she's getting is obviously a function of professional PR, which is the game.
And so, like, it's called the Celebration Parallax.
It's an interesting thing that is a phenomenon to a degree, but is used to attack people like us.
And we've been attacked all over corporate press.
I'll play you a...
I'll play you a mini cut here of how many shows came after us for simply noticing this.
And this is all I'm arguing, is that this cake's already baked, right?
And so conservatives should maybe counter this, but also shouldn't be surprised when it happens.
But everyone wants to live in a Hallmark movie as though these things aren't happening.
The celebration parallax is if you notice something and you say it's a bad thing, if you notice what's happening and you say it's a bad thing, then you're called a conspiracy theorist.
I'm noticing that they're setting up Taylor Swift for this big Biden endorsement.
That's what I'm noticing.
And then try and move low-propensity voters to Biden.
That's the game.
It's actually a smart game, because Biden has no celebrity, and he's running against the biggest celebrity ever.
So you have to counter that celebrity with something.
If you call it a good thing, if you notice something's happening, but you celebrate it, like the New York Times and MSNBC.
Here's the MSNBC headline.
Taylor Swift could save Joe Biden.
No, seriously!
They're saying the same thing I'm saying.
I'm saying that it's a bad thing and conservatives should be prepared for this.
They should counter-message it.
They should not be shocked.
We're not living in a Hallmark movie.
This stuff isn't organic.
But they're celebrating it and I'm not, right?
And so everyone goes crazy.
Because we just notice what's happening.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is our salt that lib clip of the day.
So I want you to grab your salt shakers.
This is my salt shaker.
Here we go.
I finally have my prop here.
My massive salt shaker.
Thank you, Rolls Royce.
This is our salt that lib of the day.
We're going to assault all the people who came for us last night in the corporate press, which by the way, way to prove that it's not all centrally coordinated when every show does the same thing.
Every show had the same talking point.
So, this is us assaulting them for simply, for coming for us, for just being noticers, which is what we do on this show, ladies and gentlemen.
No crime in that.
Salt that lib.
Get your salt shakers out.
I want to see the comment section filled with salt shakers.
We'll put the comments on screen.
joy reid
let's go Tuned into any conservative media or scrolled through Elon's ex-Twitter in the past few days, you may have seen the latest conspiracy that has the far right absolutely losing their minds.
stephen colbert
The Taylor Swift Super Bowl isn't making everyone happy because right-wing dinguses like Vivek Ramaswamy are claiming this whole thing is a conspiracy, suggesting that the Super Bowl will be rigged for the Chiefs to set the stage for Taylor Swift's Biden endorsement.
jen psaki
Guys, I mean, are you all okay?
Seriously.
Take a walk.
Shake it off, as she would say.
I mean, as the right-wing conspiracy goes, stick with me here.
Taylor Swift might just be an operative for the Democratic Party.
Some, like Jesse Waters, who you just saw there, would even call her a psy-op.
unidentified
Jen, I understand the president's going to deploy Taylor Swift at this strategic time.
Oh, my God.
joy reid
I mean, are you up on the whole conspiracy theories?
unidentified
No, but we might as well.
Every other network's bathing in conspiracy theories.
benny johnson
Why can't we?
So, ladies and gentlemen, It doesn't prove your point.
It actually proves the opposite when everyone in the corporate media reads from the exact same script.
It's not that big of a deal to say that Taylor Swift is going to go endorse Joe Biden in 2024.
We just noticed.
We just noticed that that's what you're setting up.
And we're saying it's inauthentic like virtually every celebrity endorsement ever.
It's just playing politics.
We're just pissing in the punch bowl here.
It's funny.
There are funny memes.
stephen colbert
It's funny.
benny johnson
It's funny memes.
It was really funny until y 'all started being so serious about it.
A lot of this, by the way, the groundwork for it was laid by Jesse Waters, who on his Fox show had a clip from our Pentagon from about four years ago talking about how Taylor Swift can be used for influence against misinformation, disinformation, or information the regime doesn't want you to know.
Okay?
There is no one doubting the authenticity of this clip.
Nobody wants to argue the authenticity of the clip or the merits of it.
We just noticed you're going to have a Taylor Swift endorsement.
Boo!
unidentified
Hoo!
benny johnson
Like, oh, okay, got it.
Here's Jesse Waters laying it out, saying that the Pentagon was trying to use Taylor Swift's influence.
Here's the clip.
You decide.
jesse watters
Star in the world.
Sorry, Gutfeld.
She's been blanketed across the sports media entertainment atmosphere.
The New York Times just speculated she's a lesbian.
And last year's tour broke Ticketmaster, a tour that's revenue tops the GDP of 50 countries.
I mean, I like her music.
She's all right.
But I mean, have you ever wondered why or how she blew up like this?
Well, around four years ago, the Pentagon Psychological Operations Unit floated turning Taylor Swift into an asset during a NATO meeting.
What kind of asset?
A PSYOP for combating online misinformation.
Listen.
unidentified
You came in here wanting to understand how you just go out there and counter an information operation.
The idea is that social influence can help encourage or promote behavior change, so potentially as a peaceful information operation.
I include Taylor Swift in here because she's a fairly influential online person.
I don't know if you've heard of her.
jesse watters
Yeah, that's real.
The Pentagon SIOP unit pitched NATO on turning Taylor Swift into an asset.
benny johnson
What do you want from me?
Our crime is not—you're not allowed to notice.
Tiger Carlson has a great line about, like, how lies are never published—punished.
Lies are always published.
Lies are never punished, right?
You're only ever punished for telling the truth.
Like, we just noticed this obviously desperate political setup here.
And now you're upset.
You're upset because we figured it out.
It wasn't even hard.
It's like Fannie Willis paying her boyfriend.
It's that hard.
It's out in the open.
You're publishing.
You're writing entire articles in the New York Times and MSNBC about it.
There is a final thing that I wish to relay to conservatives, which is that conservatives never weaponize.
Or utilize celebrity power, like the left actually sees the power in that, and we don't.
You ever gone to a NASCAR event?
You ever gone to a concert, like a Luke Combs concert or anything?
Have you ever seen the amount of people that show up?
There's hundreds of thousands of people showing up to watch NASCAR.
Hundreds of thousands of people going to country concerts every single year.
And unlike the left, Who sees and channels that into then that cultural power into political power, which is what Andrew Breitbart preached.
Politics is downstream of culture, right?
My mentor, Andrew Breitbart, would always say that.
We don't see it that way.
We're just not smart enough to see it that way.
And so there's actually like kind of an important lesson here because this strategy is smart.
And you could actually move voters for Biden.
That's why they do it.
But the hysteria about it does kind of prove that you plucked a nerve, haven't we?
Right?
With all of this.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are very proud to have our first CNN debut.
We weren't invited on CNN, but CNN clipped our show from yesterday.
Popped it up on screen.
And, well, thanks for allowing me to blackpill your audience, CNN.
Namaste.
unidentified
Tonight, the right going all in on baseless conspiracy theory that claims Taylor Swift's relationship with Travis Kelsey and the Super Bowl are all rigged to help Joe Biden win the election.
benny johnson
This is what I think is going to happen.
There's going to be, like, some type of proposal after the Super Bowl.
Is rigged for the Chiefs.
And then the two of these people become, it's like, reach like crazy levels of absolute fame.
And then they use that in order to try and save Joe Biden.
unidentified
Okay.
Those comments do not come out of nowhere.
There's a whole lot about this.
In fact, the former presidential candidate and top Trump ally, and now a person seemingly campaigning for VP, Vivek Ramaswamy, tweeted, I wonder who's going to win the Super Bowl next month, and I wonder if there's a major presidential endorsement coming from an artificially, culturally propped up couple this fall.
Just some wild speculation over here.
Let's see how it ages over the next six months.
benny johnson
Wild speculation, huh?
unidentified
Have you read the New York Times?
benny johnson
You jackasses!
Inside Biden's battle plan!
Where Taylor Swift fits in!
The Biden campaign already has a plan set up for Taylor Swift.
It's in the pages of the New York Times.
It's insane!
The celebration parallax here.
MSNBC!
There are so many of these, by the way.
So many of these articles, by the way.
Taylor Swift can save Joe Biden!
No, seriously!
So who's the conspiracy theorist?
That's all I'm asking.
The noticers are the ones who get punished, right?
But we're loving it.
We're basking in it.
Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who has been a professional noticer for a very long time, somebody who knows a lot about influence operations and knows a lot about the way that they are structured, Mike Benz, former State Department Cyber and Executive Director, Foundation for Freedom Online Executive Director, Join the program now.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
you you Former State Department Cyber and Executive Director of Foundation for Freedom Online.
Sorry, Mike.
I got you, buddy.
I got you, buddy.
We'll lock it in here.
So I wanted to bring you on the show because I've said my piece about this.
We're upset that we noticed.
This isn't even that big of a thing because she endorsed Biden in 2020 and it would stand to reason that she would endorse him again.
But I wanted to chat with you about the history of using cultural influence in politics because there is a long history of the federal government doing that and reaching into pop culture in order to push agenda.
Yes?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I apologize, Mike.
I'm sorry, Mike.
I'm not getting any audio.
unidentified
I'm not getting any audio.
benny johnson
I'm sorry.
Ladies and gentlemen, we love Mike Benz.
We encourage you to follow him.
We also have a green room where we normally test these things, but there must have been just a little glitch in the Matrix, as we say.
So, we await potentially Mike Benz being able to hop on the show.
It is worth also stating that...
My producer is telling me he's reconnecting right now.
A recent guest on our program was a Christian veteran who beheaded a satanic statue in the Iowa Capitol.
He's been charged with a hate crime now.
I want you to know that when we talk about the spiritual battles that we fight on this program, that they are real and that you can apparently in America tear down statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, the founding fathers.
You can rip down statues of Christopher Columbus.
Who came to this continent, right?
In the name of Christendom.
Yet if you come for a statue of Satan, well, then you'll be charged with a hate crime.
Check this out.
Michael Cassidy been charged with a hate crime for beheading the statue of Satan at the Iowa State Capitol.
Cassidy drove up to Iowa after the satanic display was erected and the state Capitol took it down.
He was arraigned on February 15th.
He will be arraigned for correction on February 15th.
Polk County prosecutors charged Cassidy with a felony third-degree criminal mischief, saying that he acted in violation of individual rights under the Iowa state's hate crime statute, Des Moines Register reports.
This is pretty humiliating, by the way, for a fellow Iowan here.
Iowa was where I was raised, where I went to school.
I cannot believe how far my state has fallen.
Just for putting this...
Just for putting the statue up alone with now going after this Christian veteran for hate crime charges against Satan?
So Christians are being charged with hate crimes against Satan.
Are we living in the end times?
Ladies and gentlemen.
I'm told that Mike Benz may now be good.
Sorry, Mike.
I've returned.
mike benz
Yeah.
benny johnson
My apologies, man.
I'm just not going to...
I want to hear all your in-depth wisdom and you have plenty of it to share, but we have to do that with audio on.
So, Mike, the question, the setup here is there are...
Ronald Reagan went to Michael Jackson.
Elvis was in the Nixon White House, right?
Elvis was federalized against the war on drugs.
And they've used celebrity status.
Regimes have used celebrity status in order to push agenda for a very long time.
There's nothing strange about this, no?
mike benz
Oh, totally.
Marilyn Monroe was rolled out by the Pentagon for the war effort.
Greta Garbo was instrumentalized by the State Department.
There is a multi-decade history dating back to the 1940s with the CIA and State Department deploying jazz diplomacy to try to swing the politics of African nations to the...
Classical music concerts put on by CIA cutouts like the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which were hosted in France and Italy during the Cold War, to even the rock music concerts sponsored by the State Department and CIA cutouts in Germany to try to swing the hearts and minds of people in West and East Germany during the struggle of spy versus spy in the 1980s.
In fact, on my timeline on X, I just put a...
Just did a multi-hour deep dive on the Serbian revolution that was sponsored to the tune of $77 million to the political opposition in Serbia in 1999 to overthrow Slobodan Milosevic and the role of music in that revolution.
But actually, there's another element here that might be useful to add to from a clip that you played earlier, which was the Jesse Waters clip that sort of kicked off this whole news cycle.
So I'm actually the one who found that clip and put it out.
And then Jesse Waters contacted me and I wasn't able to make the show that day.
And so he sort of presented it without mentioning my role and finding it within this three-hour NATO stream.
And he sort of misrepresented it.
benny johnson
I did not know that.
mike benz
Yeah, yeah.
So that whole thing actually came from me, but that's okay.
I think he's a great guy.
I just think, you know, because the other part is he didn't quite...
Contextualize it accurately, and there were some misstatements that might be useful to clarify here.
So first of all, this was at a NATO psychological operations panel.
I was watching this because it occurred in August 2019, which was right at the time when the intelligence services in the Pentagon were doing what I call the foreign to domestic switcheroo on censorship, which is when they took all this Russiagate censorship infrastructure to censor Russian bots and trolls, and then transitioned it to basically Trump supporters ahead of the 2020 election.
And it was right in this critical time period.
And there were a number of, and this was a panel from the NATO Center of Excellence.
And it's the Center of Excellence in Psychological Resilience and Strategic Communications.
It was set up in order to swing hearts and minds explicitly as a psyop cell within NATO when they transitioned into what they call hybrid warfare, which is the doctrine that expanded their mandate from tanks to tweets.
And that's their explicit phrasing.
When NATO went from being about Kinetic warfare to being primarily about psychological warfare.
So they set up these centers of excellence as a way to basically control the internal politics of countries in Eastern Europe, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, all the way into Germany.
So I was watching this on a stream when I noticed that these Pentagon...
Contractors were mentioning Taylor Swift as a potentially useful asset for NATO to win their own sort of psychological war going on in Central and Eastern Europe.
That's sort of the backdrop of it, which is to say that it was not the Pentagon explicitly saying this.
These were Pentagon contractors.
So, for example, the woman in this clip that's featured there.
Worked for a company called Graphica.
Now, Graphica got seven million dollars in grants from the Pentagon to do psyops work.
They were incubated in the Pentagon's Minerva Initiative, which is the Psychological Warfare Research Unit to help the Pentagon come up with ideas for psychological operations.
And Graphica would then be deployed in January 2020.
As one of the first institutions in the world to begin censorship of COVID-19.
They have a very deep, dark history of working with the biosecurity state, of working with basically the national security state to control the internal politics of countries, to prevent people from voting Pentagon priorities out of power.
And the real scandal here to me is not even about Taylor Swift and all of this.
And it's not even about the political weaponization.
Of celebrities, which is a natural part.
I mean, you can bet that Trump is, you know, using this Snoop Dogg endorsement, you know, in commercials in the year ahead.
That is normal, hard-nosed politics to have the sort of partisan utilization of celebrity.
To me, the real scandal here is the institutional weaponization of celebrity.
The fact is that NATO is not supposed to be a Democrat or a Republican institution.
It's not even supposed to be a political animal at all.
The fact that it represents the Western Military Alliance is supposed to be because it serves at the whim.
Of the civilians who vote for it.
It is supposed to be an arm of the government, not the brain of the government.
And when the military moves into the media space and says, "We need to use this to control elections," because there are two things that Jesse Waters left out of that that are very important.
First of all, in that panel, and I have this pulled up at the top of my timeline.
If you go to my X profile,@likebenciber, you'll see the very top tweet there says, It has a picture of Taylor Swift in this NATO psychological operations panel, and it says, "Goal, identify key actors to train and spread desired messaging."
So they literally say, this is someone from the Pentagon's psychological warfare outfit proposing to NATO, which at the time was under a massive threat from losing EU parliamentary elections because Marine Le Pen was rising in France.
You had the Matteo Salvini movement in Italy.
You had the Vox movement in Spain.
You had all these EU skeptical parties.
And NATO is basically the military arm of the EU.
And you can say the EU is the sort of commercial arm of NATO.
So they wanted to shore up the politics of support for NATO, for support for NATO military funding, for jurisdictional movements and activity everywhere from Syria to beyond.
And so they, this is the military moving into control over the media and explicitly attempting to alter the politics rather than being subject to the politics.
And that to me is the real scandal here.
benny johnson
I think that, yeah, I think that like we're, and I don't want to get caught in the drama of this because it includes celebrities and names and things like that.
I think that's more of a distraction.
And what you just described is something that we all lived through in the last two years of the Ukraine war.
Which I think is absolutely fascinating.
Like, my alarm bells are going off like crazy because this was clearly something that was being utilized, and there were a lot of muscles being put into swaying public opinion on this war.
Now, one thing that's obviously a glaring red siren that should be the most shocking thing, the most shocking story of the last hundred years, is the NSA reading Tucker Carlson's emails when he was trying to set up an interview with Vladimir Putin.
Now, this is before the Ukraine war, but nonetheless, they stepped in to say, you can't do that, which is wild, right?
And then from that, of course, from that overreach, then you see centralized messaging about Ukraine.
All of it lies, right?
We're winning the war and Russia's losing the war.
That's not true.
Ukraine will get all the land back.
No, like the realities have now set in.
That's like what you just described here.
So it's actually far more pernicious than some celebrity endorsement.
mike benz
Yeah, it basically overturns everything that gave democracy its legitimacy.
The idea of a civilian-run government and of civilian-run media, rather than the guys with guns controlling the government, when the military basically puts designs for its own agenda to control the government and to work against the civilians, rather than essentially obeying the civilians or following the flow of what civilians vote for.
Then you essentially have a kind of military class, a kind of military junta that essentially controls the politics of a country.
And we see this in other countries that are essentially US vassal states.
This happened in Pakistan, for example.
Pakistan was the classic sort of US vassal state during the 1970s and 80s when they were used as a way for us to basically Package military operations against the Soviets by using the Mujahideen as a proxy group there.
And Pakistan's government has what they call a hybrid government, which is kind of interesting in the sense that they have a democratically elected prime minister, but that prime minister is forbidden from conducting essentially certain aspects of foreign affairs and military and intelligence and security affairs are completely the domain of the military side of the government.
And so there's basically bumper cars on what the people can vote to do in Pakistan because the military side of that hybrid government has dominion there.
And when the recently elected prime minister, I'm sorry, when the most popular prime minister in decades, Imran Khan in Pakistan, was elected and decided that the people of Pakistan wanted to go a different path than the military establishment, he was tossed out of office, first in a no confidence vote.
By the parliament there, but it was essentially orchestrated by the military junta after a U.S. State Department cable.
And Donald Trumped him.
They hit him with 197 felony charges.
He just got sentenced to 14 years in prison.
And the U.S. State Department has been essentially saying that Pakistan should not even hold elections again in the short term because it's so obvious that Imran Khan would win that they need to postpone elections until he's in jail.
And he just got put in jail.
And so, you know, this is...
These are our partners, and it's essentially just a small-scale version of what we now have in the United States.
benny johnson
So, that begs the question, and I do want your assessment on this, because we began the show with Fannie Willis and the decay, the quick decay of what's happening in Georgia, and I think things are beginning to spiral into the containment level of things are going south very quickly on this.
Attempt to put Donald Trump in prison.
When you look at the greater overall landscape of the legal challenges Donald Trump is facing, what do you see as the strategic strong points and the weak points?
We're hitting this Georgia thing pretty hard because this just seems sloppy, man.
This seems like something that could backfire pretty quickly, in fact, and show the lack of strength.
No, I mean, all of them are sloppy.
mike benz
All four of the cases against Trump are sloppy.
I mean, if you remember even the classified documents case, the first case they brought in from New York, you know, the whole thing is that we're supposed to be these nuclear documents.
And that was what basically set the stage for this legitimacy.
And then it turned out, oh, actually, that wasn't it at all.
And, you know, now it's just basically a paperwork issue.
But, you know, the initial furor was basically tamped down by Calling it something that it radically wasn't.
And then you have the January 6th cases, which are completely insane.
A Twitter-suppressed tweet from Trump himself telling people to go home and be peaceful.
But that lasted five minutes on the platform before that was censored.
And that's nowhere in the indictment papers.
I mean, everything around exculpatory evidence.
Defense attorneys are supposed to be the zealous advocates.
Prosecutors are supposed to be even-handed.
But justice in this case is so blind, it's basically had its eyes poked out.
But in this case, I suspect that It may ultimately fall to the Supreme Court, and part of this may be a pressure cooker tactic to basically try to delegitimize a conservative-oriented Supreme Court in the event that it falls to them at the end of the day to exonerate Trump on either technical or substantive grounds about these.
But the other part that we've seen is with this E. Jean Carroll case, which to me is almost scarier in some respects than the criminal charges.
Which is this attempt to use lawfare to bankrupt and capacity cripple your political opponents.
And in some ways, that actually is more devastating.
I mean, this is an $83 million judgment.
You covered this expertly, you know, over the past several weeks, all the insanity around the E. Jean Carroll case.
But this is something I remember, you know, and viewers can look this up.
There's something called hashtag Masongate.
Masongate.
It refers to a guy named Paul Mason.
Who several years ago, after working for British intelligence, devised a plan to try to bankrupt left-wing anti-war news institutions who were delegitimizing NATO's operations in Ukraine.
And Paul Mason proposed to a series of academics and NGO representatives a three-part plan to try to stop Opposition news to, essentially, to NATO.
And the first was get these people kicked off social media.
And if we can't do that, get them debanked.
And if we can't do that, find a sympathetic plaintiff to bring a, and he referred to this as, quote, the nuclear option, to find a sympathetic plaintiff to drive these news outlets into bankruptcy through a defamation case.
And so this is British intelligence explicitly plotting to take out Civilians in the news industry through organized lawfare on B.S. civil tort claims because if somebody's broke, they're as politically dead as if they're in jail.
And the fact that you've seen this weaponized now so many times, this Paul Mason strategy here in the U.S. from Nina Jankovic suing Fox News for defamation.
Over calling her exactly what she was, a disinformation artist, designated a disinformation expert.
From Ray Epps, from the Dominion case.
Time and time again, every time these people get in trouble, they try to flip it with these totally BS defamation cases that are totally rigged because people aren't even able, when they bring in a sympathetic jurisdiction, people aren't even able to present their defense, like Trump wasn't able to present his defense in this E. Jean Carroll case, and there are many similar examples of that.
So, you know, it's a kangaroo court bankruptcy strategy, and I think that that, they will be emboldened by the E. Jean Carroll case to try to drive that up in order to cripple both Trump at the campaign level and at the operational level.
benny johnson
So, this ties in very nicely to my final question for you about Elon Musk and what's happening in Delaware.
I guess the takeaway is don't ever register your business in a Democrat state.
Delaware is supposed to be really good for corporations.
That was a lie.
And Elon Musk just had his $55 billion compensation package, I think, struck down by a judge in Delaware.
I don't know if you've been following this very closely, but it really does sound like it's in the exact same vein.
And my follow-up to that question is then, how quickly then does that pivot to defamation cases against Elon Musk?
mike benz
No, I mean, that's totally shocking to me.
I started my career spending eight years doing big law, corporate law in New York.
Incorporating in Delaware was not even a question.
Everybody did it.
Every client you represent, you organize everything in Delaware.
was supposed to be the sort of stronghold for respecting meetings of the mines, independent arms length agreements.
I would say it goes even bigger than just sort of Democrat-Republican.
I think that this has to do with the foreign policy establishment and the D.C. Uniparty.
I could see Texas, for example.
You know, Texas is very divided right now.
I mean, in addition to the sort of Purple State threat from the mass flooding of illegal migrants into the country, you have the fact that That Dave Phelan and the Republican-controlled Texas State Assembly impeached the MAGA populist State Attorney General Ken Paxton just earlier this year.
In terms of this capacity crippling strategy to try to basically kill Elon Musk's wealth in order to kill his power projection.
I could see that coming to Texas, not just if Democrats take control, but if the Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush arm of the Texas power structure is able to successfully wedge out the populist side.
There's no state that's safe here.
This is going to be a battle that we're going to be in.
benny johnson
I mean, it really is absolutely astonishing and wild times.
I wish that we had more time, Mike.
I love speaking with you because you actually speak from a font of knowledge about these issues, and we learn so very much.
Godspeed, sir.
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mike benz
Thank you, Manny.
Have a great day.
benny johnson
Bye, Mike.
Godspeed.
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