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benny johnson
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Now, without further ado, please enjoy this exclusive interview about the new right with Byron Donalds, the absolute...
Badass congressman from the state of Florida.
This guy was incredible.
I loved sitting down with him.
It's amazing to talk to somebody who is just so on fire and is truly the representative of the new right.
What are we going to do next?
Byron Donalds, this is the future of the Republican Party.
unidentified
Take it away.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now on the show, one of the most stylish members of Congress, one of the freshest members of Congress, one of the, I guess you could say, best dressed and best suited to talk about the new right, members of Congress, Byron Donalds from this great state of Florida.
Why is everyone coming to Florida?
byron donalds
Why wouldn't you come?
First of all, we got the weather.
Everybody knows that.
But number two, low tax environment, that's been consistent.
But then number three, you can open up a business and get started here.
Here's the biggest one.
You can be free.
And you know that our government's not going to stop you from just living your life.
In 2021 and 2022, I've called it the great COVID migration, where people wanted to leave their state, but they weren't quite sure.
They still had family, my kids in school.
But when the schools were locking your kid out, when you couldn't see your family members, they were like, well, why am I even here?
And so they've come to Florida.
And so what Florida has shown the other 49 states is when you govern based upon principles and based upon honest science and you get the politics out of it, it actually flourishes and more people want to come.
It actually proves Milton Friedman's theory that you can judge public policy by the vote of feet because people will go where they're largely free and can actually live out their dreams.
benny johnson
Florida has a really large Hispanic community.
Have you ever called these people tacos?
byron donalds
No.
I might have asked them to make me one, though.
I mean, listen, man, you make good food.
I need some.
Listen, if you're making up some paella over in Miami, I need some of that.
Tacos, all of that.
But am I going to call you one?
That's ridiculous.
Here's the thing that's crazy.
I know the media don't want to talk about this.
You know Jill Biden read that speech.
You know she read it like two, three times before to get the cadence right.
I mean, she still can't pronounce bodegas.
Bogadas, whatever she called them.
benny johnson
Bogadas.
byron donalds
Bogadas.
unidentified
But we can't get those things on our own.
Raul helped build this organization with the understanding that the diversity of this community, as distinct as the BogodΓ‘'s of the Bronx, as beautiful as the blossoms of Miami, and as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio.
byron donalds
As a New Yorker, I'm offended.
I'm from Brooklyn, New York.
I'm offended by that.
That offended me.
But that being said, she read the speech three, four times.
You know she did.
Some staffer in her office wrote it in there thinking they were going to be cute.
I thought it was ridiculous, borderline racist, and insane.
I don't call people by food groups.
Now, if you cook good food, I'm going to ask you to make me some because, you know, I'm a big guy.
I like to eat.
benny johnson
You've never taken a member of the minority community and then called them a food group.
Just want to clear this up.
byron donalds
No.
That's the answer.
benny johnson
I think that's important.
Okay, good.
Jill Biden did absolutely read that.
And even in her readings of that, and you've seen the teleprompters, they're like the size of movie screens.
They're like the size of the big screen in the middle of Dallas Cowboy Stadium.
They're huge, those teleprompters for the White House.
She read that, and she still couldn't pronounce bodaga.
Now, how long did you live in New York?
byron donalds
Seventeen years.
Born and raised.
benny johnson
And you moved to Florida?
byron donalds
Right after high school.
benny johnson
And why?
You were ahead of the curve.
byron donalds
I went to college.
I went to FAMU for three years.
Tallahassee, Florida.
Highest of Seven Hills.
Go Rattlers.
Then I transferred to Florida State.
I graduated from Florida State, so I'm also a Seminole.
I'm old-blooded.
And then from there, I had a choice.
It was actually the recession right after 9-11.
So it was go back home when New York was still devastated or find another place to get an opportunity.
And so I actually followed, you know, my girlfriend, who's now my wife.
I followed her down to Bonita Springs.
There was a bunch of banks and brokerage houses, and everybody was old.
I figured, well, I'm young.
I can get started here.
And it actually ended up being a great decision, and my life took off from there.
benny johnson
What do you think about the campaign to put up billboards on the Florida state border that says, sorry, Florida's full, turn around, live?
That's directed at New Yorkers, probably.
byron donalds
It's just for liberals.
benny johnson
Californians.
byron donalds
Just for liberals?
unidentified
Yeah.
byron donalds
I mean, I'm a federalist.
So I want people to come and take advantage of Florida.
But don't take advantage of Florida.
You see what I'm saying?
I want you to come here and live the life that Florida allows.
But don't come here and change Florida to the thing that you left.
Because you're left for a reason.
You know, that's like going into somebody's house and then making the bed your way.
You just don't do that.
The way they make their bed in their house is the way they do it.
The way they store their food, the way they wash their dishes, that's the way they do it.
When you go to somebody else's house, you, you know, what's the old saying?
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
When in Florida, do as Floridians have done.
We've been under Republican control for 30 years.
We're the envy of the United States of America.
Look.
Ron DeSantis is amazing.
He's America's governor.
I call him that all the time.
I think he's great.
He's fantastic.
But we have consistent Republican and conservative leadership in our state for 30 years.
benny johnson
That's how you create a state that is the envy of the other 49. Yo, nobody wants Amber Heard to break in and make their bed.
No one wants it.
And that's what Californians, I think, are doing.
unidentified
They're okay with poop on the streets.
byron donalds
You shook me when you said Amber.
benny johnson
I'm sorry.
It's culture.
Culture is also this.
AOC.
Is she culture?
AOC is your colleague.
byron donalds
Yeah, that's true.
benny johnson
And she demonstrated this week something really sophisticated and really cool.
You and I have known each other.
We've been friendly.
We've known each other.
You come on the show.
We've talked a little bit.
And you never told me, hurt my feelings a little bit, you never told me once that Congress has access to invisible handcuffs.
Now, AOC demonstrated this with some of her friends this week.
Here I go on social media, and I'm looking at invisible handcuffs, invisible handcuffs.
This is some space-age shit.
Whoa.
How does Congress have access to this kind of technology?
Can you explain this?
byron donalds
We don't.
First things first, don't be a poser.
If you want to get arrested, go get arrested.
The truth of the matter is, nobody actually goes seeking handcuffs.
This is why usually people are running away.
They don't want to be in cuffs.
So don't come out there with your smirk and actually pose her.
No, don't pose.
I thought what she did was ridiculous.
If you want to go protest, go protest.
That's fine.
But if you want to go make a scene and be arrested, then just let the police drag you off the thing.
Like, go all the way.
Don't just get, don't sit up and start walking away so you can wave to the crowd.
That's posing, as far as I'm concerned.
benny johnson
Ilhan Omar did that.
unidentified
She got, she arrested herself.
byron donalds
Okay.
Wait, that was in the street in public view?
I'm going to stop right there.
I'm not going to go no further.
Anyway, when you pose like this, nobody takes you seriously.
You're not a fighter.
Fighting for what?
All you're doing is fighting for the camera.
You're fighting for clicks.
That's not real to me.
Especially growing up the way I grew up.
Nobody was running around looking to get arrested by the police.
That's like the opposite of what everybody was trying to do.
We're trying to stay away as far away from the police as possible.
So to actually go in there just so you can make a point or make a statement or show that you're some fighter, no, what it shows is that you're a poser.
benny johnson
Have you ever disagreed with something and decided to lay down on the street?
byron donalds
No.
Because I like my clothes.
And if I disagree with it, something tells me lying down on the street is not going to help me prove my point.
I don't do that kind of stuff.
benny johnson
They were lying down in front of the Supreme Court.
Now we got our Clarence Thomas, Thug Life.
Clarence Thomas is getting a lot of hate.
He's always gotten a lot of hate.
From the BLM crowd.
What's going on there?
What does Clarence Thomas mean to you and what's going on with the actual left?
They're calling people tacos.
They're doing horrible stuff to Clarence.
byron donalds
Clarence Thomas was the first.
Realistically.
He's the first in the modern era of politics to go against the narrative.
And they've been vilifying him ever since George H.W. Bush nominated him for the court.
But he don't care.
And you know why he doesn't care?
Because if you actually get a chance to either talk with him or see the documentary that he made about his life, which is incredible, incredible documentary, it talks about that actually when he was in college, he was a liberal.
He was kind of a radical liberal in college, going into college, until he saw the reality of some of those proposals.
Really started thinking about it.
Really started doing the history.
Really started studying for himself, thinking for himself.
Realized that he was actually a constitutionalist.
He is the pioneer in the black conservative movement, the modern black conservative movement.
He's taken the slings and arrows so that people like me can come along and be able to walk that path and not take as much heat as he took.
But I got to tell you, there are many, many black Americans, black men, who are starting to see the world the way Clarence Thomas sees the world.
And they're not going to sit there and listen to people on Twitter.
You know, because Dave Chappelle says it doesn't exist and he's right.
That they're not going to listen to people on Twitter say this and that about you.
I don't listen.
I don't really care.
Because you know what I say?
If you really feel strongly enough, you'll come say it to my face.
But I don't think you will.
benny johnson
Can you unpack that?
You said there's a lot of black men who's going to see the way Clarence Thomas.
That is probably a very incendiary statement to the left.
There's nothing that they would want less than...
Black men to see the world the way Clarence Thomas sees the world.
Unpack that.
Why is that happening?
byron donalds
I think because you have a lot of black men who've realized that the Democrat agenda, the Marxist agenda, doesn't work.
The reality has hit everybody in the face now.
They know it doesn't work.
They're looking for an alternative.
Republicans have just done a terrible job of providing an alternative.
You know, Republicans argue policy like we're in a think tank room or we're in some model UN debate.
That's not how you argue politics to people who never really consume politics.
They're intelligent, but politics isn't their thing.
So you have to meet them where they are, not just argue with it like you're having some debate on Capitol Hill.
That's not the way you get the job done.
I think that when these policies come out from our side of the aisle, you compare them to what the left has actually done, black men, first and foremost, are going to be like, man, this thing doesn't work.
Black men, we're bred to hustle.
We're bred to go get it, to go work hard.
From when we were young kids, our mothers were always like, you've got to work twice as hard as everybody else to get ahead.
That's what you've got to do.
Life and fair, get over it.
Nobody cares about your feelings.
Grow up, be a man, and do what needs to be done.
But then when you come into a world where you see policies that actually go in opposite of things that are going to help you be successful, you're not going to stand for that for very long.
You're not.
And I think the other thing is that, especially where the Republican Party is going right now, where you have men and women who are basically like, I'm going to tell the truth.
I'm going to tell it straight.
I'm going to go accomplish things.
I don't care what the media says.
People respond to that.
Black men respond to that.
benny johnson
So what is going to happen in the Republican Party?
You said the Republican Party has been terrible on this.
You are a member of what people call online the new right.
And that seems like sort of a new generation of Republicans that are okay talking about something like this, maybe moving the needle, because I think the Republican Party spent a billion dollars or whatever on the black vote in 2020, didn't move the needle.
The platinum plan, I don't know who named that, but didn't move the needle necessarily.
I think as far as I can see.
So the new right, how do you fix it?
byron donalds
Well, I think first and foremost, you know, if you look at some of the data points, it moved the needle some.
I think the thing to understand about when you go on to seek a new group of voters, it doesn't happen overnight.
I'm glad the party invested in 2020.
Now go do it again.
They are, by the way.
You have to be consistent.
If you're going to build a relationship with the community, you just don't show up and be like, hey, it's me.
You know, here's some money.
Here's some money.
We're throwing it around.
Vote for me.
Look at my policy plan.
It doesn't work that way.
You've got to consistently show up.
And when you do that work, then that needle moves.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how you move a needle.
It's not a one-shot deal.
It is consistency over time.
Time under pressure.
Time under thought.
Makes people say, you know what?
I might have to go deal with Benny.
I think Benny's telling me the right thing.
When you started your show, you didn't just do one and be like, oh, look, Ma, I made it.
I did one show.
What did you do?
Show after show after show after show after show.
Why?
Consistency breeds people taking and saying, you know what, man, let me go on a show.
Let me go deal with it.
We got to do the same thing in the party.
I'm glad the Republican Party spent that money.
Now do it again.
And so you have people like myself, like Burgess, like Tim Scott.
We got Wesley Hunt coming in Texas.
Wesley's coming to Congress.
We think John James is coming to Congress.
We think Jennifer Ruth Green in Indiana, she's coming to Congress.
LaRon Singletary up in Rochester, New York, we think he's coming to Congress.
George Logan in Connecticut, we think he's coming to Congress.
You're going to have like seven, eight of us standing in the house well looking at each other like, okay, RNC, go spend the money.
When you do this consistently over time, people respond.
You can't build a relationship with a community just by showing up to church on one Sunday.
They don't even know who you are.
They might think you got lost.
But if you come Sunday after Sunday after Sunday, if you're there time after time after time, the community starts talking.
They'll be like, man, these Republicans are back again.
Again?
Yeah.
You know what?
Let me think about what they're saying.
That's the dam that's got to break.
And that only happens with consistency.
benny johnson
There's nothing more cringe than watching Kamala Harris go to a black church and give some speech and some, like, cackle speech about something.
And everyone's like...
unidentified
Yeah.
byron donalds
She's bad at it.
You know who was worse?
Hillary Clinton.
When she would go, I know it's hard.
unidentified
I don't feel no ways tired.
benny johnson
I ain't no ways tired.
byron donalds
What are you doing, lady?
Like, lady, what are you doing?
Like, anyway.
Yeah, Kamala's not really good at this.
You know, I think that, um...
benny johnson
Yeah, your take.
byron donalds
I just don't think she's very good at this.
I think...
Here's what I...
In my honest opinion, I think she isn't...
I think she's highly intelligent.
But I think in some respects, her political star, if you will, has gone so high so fast, she's never really had to, like, get in.
I think the nervous laugh is, I don't think she is fully comfortable with who she is.
That's where the nervous laugh comes from.
I don't know her.
I'm just surmising from what I've seen.
But I think to a larger point, she's indicative of where the Democrat Party, in my view, has gone.
That it's about your Your identity, your demographics, as opposed to your intelligence and your policy and the ability to actually get it done.
And so the Democrat Party now is all fluff, all pomp, all circumstance, all show, but there ain't no go.
That's why we got members of Congress who got invisible handcuffs.
It's all show, but there's no go.
Because when they actually put their stuff into place, it's a disaster.
For the American people.
And listen, and people in California, when she was AG, a lot of black men that remember her, she was locking brothers up left and right and was cackling about it.
Even Tulsi Gabbard had to, you know, she had the stones to tell the truth.
But that's what happened in California.
And so I think that she's a person where she's going so fast, so hard, so high.
You know, that's in her career.
Cool for you.
But I don't think she's ready for prime time.
She hasn't had that ability to really hone her skills.
benny johnson
You brought it up, so I've got to get your take on this.
I mean, she locked up hundreds of thousands of people, a lot of them, majority, minority probably, in that group, young black men, for like a bud of weed in their pocket.
And then she goes on The Breakfast Club, brags about smoking weed, cackles about smoking weed.
charlamagne tha god
Also, and I know the answer to this too, they say you oppose legalizing weed.
unidentified
That's not true.
charlamagne tha god
I know.
unidentified
And look, I joke about it, have joking.
I have my family's from Jamaica.
Are you kidding me?
charlamagne tha god
They'd be so mad at you.
Have you ever smoked?
unidentified
I have.
charlamagne tha god
Okay.
unidentified
And I inhaled.
I did inhale.
It was a long time ago.
I know you have to go.
They say you have to go.
I just broke loose.
charlamagne tha god
I mean, were they in college?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
charlamagne tha god
See, I like stuff like that.
That's a real honest answer.
Was it a blunt or a joint?
unidentified
It was a joint.
Hey!
Do you remember the high?
I do.
charlamagne tha god
So if it was legalized all throughout the country and medicinal, would you, you know, do it?
unidentified
Listen, I think that it gives a lot of people joy and we need more joy in this world.
benny johnson
I mean, that's got to be one of the most insulting things.
byron donalds
It is.
It's insulting, number one, because if that's what your position is, then keep your position.
The thing that's more insulting is the hypocrisy behind it now.
She was all for law and order when law and order was cool.
But then when the radical left said, no, we're done with law and order, then she's talking about defunding the police and then doing the GoFundMes to bail people out of jail.
Like, be who you're going to be.
Be consistent.
That's what people respect.
Don't just float with the wind.
That's Joe Biden's problem.
The man's never been consistent a day in his life.
He doesn't know what to do.
So there is no true north with him.
He's wherever the middle of the Democrat Party is.
That's where he is.
I think Ben Shapiro said he's like a cork that floats in the ocean.
It's where he was going.
That's where Joe Biden is.
That's her problem, too.
Not consistent.
If you're going to be law and order AG, be law and order AG.
But don't flip-flop on us.
Be consistent.
I think that's where most people have found their fault with her.
Is that she's too worried about what the politics dictate as opposed to doing what is right on behalf of people.
Look, in the black community, do we want people who are doing wrong to be arrested?
Yeah.
Because we don't want you doing wrong and consistently being in the community and bringing upheaval.
People got to go to school.
You know, people got to open their businesses.
People trying to be safe in their communities.
The other thing that the black community wants is that we want the justice system to be stand up and to be fair.
We don't want prosecutors in the back cutting deals.
Because that happens.
Let's just be 100%.
You have prosecutors who will cut deals depending on choosing who they want to prosecute.
And that's wrong, too.
So we want the justice system to work.
We want it to be fair.
We want it to be equitable.
If you can do that, black people will be like, okay, that's fine.
Because if so-and-so does wrong, they've got to be held accountable.
That's it.
benny johnson
What is the new right?
byron donalds
I think the new right is just committed to policy.
It's committed to policy, but it understands the desire for populism.
And it understands when you have to engage with populism.
I think the new right is still conservative.
I think the new right is still constitutionally based.
But the new right has a far better grasp of populism, a far better grasp of the culture than I would say the old right used to have.
This is why sometimes the old right will get caught and get comfortable.
In the rooms that were just cool.
And you would never see new people show up.
Because the reality is, most Americans are engaged in their lives, not in politics.
And so you really have to go to where they are.
You have to meet them where they are.
You know, Jesus did just hang out in the synagogue all day.
That's great with the Pharisees, and even they were, you know, they were funky.
We all know that.
He didn't just hang out in the synagogues.
He went to where people were.
The new right is going to where people are.
The policies are consistent, and it's about reality.
It's not falling in love with, oh, less taxes, less government, more freedom.
That sounds cool, but what does it mean?
What does it mean in the life of a young black kid in inner city Tampa?
What does it mean in the life of a poor white kid in Iowa?
What does it mean in the life of a poor Mexican immigrant?
Parents came here legally.
He immigrated five years old.
What does it mean in his life?
How are they going to grow themselves?
What does that mean for the future of the country?
Is the country going to continue to be the best in the world?
That's what the new right is focused on.
And the bedrock of all of that still has to be the U.S. Constitution.
benny johnson
Byron Donald, ladies and gentlemen.
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