Aug. 2, 2022 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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| Now, without further ado, please enjoy this special edition of The Benny Show, Steve Bannon's Persecution. | ||
| Steve Bannon, one of the cultural warriors of our time, one of the most consequential figures in American history, an advisor to President Donald Trump, and now, most likely, getting thrown in jail. | ||
| The persecution of Steve Bannon as explained to you by one of his closest friends and allies and somebody who has been covering this from day one, Jack Posobiec. | ||
| We sat down with Jack this weekend and it was an incredible conversation. | ||
| This is what's happening to Steve Bannon and this could happen to you very soon in Joe Biden's America. | ||
| It's a scary time. | ||
| Listen to Jack and here's the end game. | ||
| It's going to surprise you. | ||
| watch. | ||
| you you you you you you The Steve Bannon saga, is there a more consequential person in media right now, functionally? | ||
| The answer is no, because Steve Bannon has truly created an aura around him. | ||
| He has the most rabid follower base of any personality on the right. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Unequivocal. | ||
| And Steve Bannon now has recently been found in contempt of Congress. | ||
| Misdemeanor charges. | ||
| What does that mean and what will it mean for media and for law and order going forward? | ||
| Joining us now, Jack Posobiec, who is... | ||
| I think as close as you can get to a Steve Bannon guest host fill-in on War Room and someone who understands the Beast, the Honey Badger, better than anyone. | ||
| He's called the Honey Badger. | ||
| We saw it today. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| At time of recording, Steve Bannon's on his show right now, having been found in contempt. | ||
| And what we're going to study in this episode is what is going on here and what happens next and what does this mean? | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| And so I was guest hosting the show this week during the trial. | ||
| And it seemed to me that and I don't think it would be a surprise for me to say that I was talking to Steve throughout the week when we could communicate if he was on a lunch break or waiting for something. | ||
| And it seemed to me that he was more... | ||
| More upset about missing the show than what was going on to him and the fact that he had to give up all that time, of course, to me. | ||
| And then, you know, just to rub it in just a little bit, when I was guest hosting, we did crack a higher ranking on politics or news than when he was there. | ||
| But, you know, it's not the numbers that matter, really, Benny. | ||
| But, you know, obviously it was the trial that was, you know, I think driving a lot of the interest. | ||
| And, of course, you know, the guest host. | ||
| It's being so handsome and smart and funny and all of this. | ||
| And so it was interesting because talking to him during the trial, he was mostly saying, hey, make sure you cover this. | ||
| Hey, here's what's going on in Europe. | ||
| You've got to cover this. | ||
| Look, the Europeans and the Russians, they broke this deal. | ||
| I want you to cover that. | ||
| I've got a good guest on for it. | ||
| He's still producing the show while he's on trial, believe it or not. | ||
| And that's what he's doing. | ||
| And then, of course, today, as we speak, immediately following his guilty verdict, then he's getting his sentence. | ||
| It's two misdemeanors, right? | ||
| So he'll get sentenced later in October. | ||
| Immediately following that, he goes straight back in to the studio and launches his afternoon podcast on the very same day. | ||
| Honey Banjer, don't give a f***. | ||
| And I know we're going to have to bleep that, but that's what people say about Steve Bannon. | ||
| And it's just true. | ||
| Can you unpack for our audience? | ||
| Because many people were shocked at the speed of this thing. | ||
| And I was expecting to do this interview for us as a preview for next week. | ||
| And the trial continues. | ||
| And the Sussman trial dragged on for three weeks, four weeks. | ||
| These trials tend to go forever. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| We weren't expecting this on Friday. | ||
| Can you first unpack what happened in the courtroom? | ||
| Right, and I was there. | ||
| Now, we're down here at Turning Point. | ||
| We're in Tampa for SAS. | ||
| But I was there for the first couple of days of the trial. | ||
| I was there for jury selection, opening statements, some of these things. | ||
| And the reason that it took so fast, right? | ||
| So it's two misdemeanor charges of contempt of Congress for completely refusing to cooperate with the January 6th committee. | ||
| However, comma. | ||
| He claimed, and you can see this in letter after letter, correspondence after correspondence, the reason for the refusal to comply was because President Trump had invoked executive privilege over the conversations that he held with Bannon. | ||
| Prior to January 6th, and these were questions about the election, questions about the proceedings, questions about what was supposed to take place on January 6th, a forceful debate in the well of the Senate. | ||
| This was the entire point of what they wanted to happen that day, and of course, from Bannon, and did Bannon, you know, we keep hearing from the committee, did Bannon and Trump have a plan? | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
| They wanted the electors to be sent back to the states. | ||
| That was the entire thing to stop the certification of the election, not because necessarily they wanted to overturn the election, but because they didn't believe in the certification due to just basic accountability grounds. | ||
| The ballots and everything else, right? | ||
| And so was there a plan? | ||
| Of course there was a plan. | ||
| This is what their side of the debate wanted. | ||
| It's very clear. | ||
| And by the way, Steve said this on the war room every single day prior to January 6th. | ||
| And of course, the committee didn't show that. | ||
| And so he refuses. | ||
| President Trump... | ||
| Invokes what's called executive privilege. | ||
| So, you know, let's say, look, you know, in this business, Benny, I'm sure we have lawyers, right? | ||
| You know, you got to talk to the lawyer every once in a while and you say, hey, you know, I'm signing this contract. | ||
| I'm doing this thing. | ||
| Does this make sense? | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| When we're having those legal conversations, that's protected by attorney-client privilege. | ||
| That is not something that the government can go in and force the attorney to turn over. | ||
| Any documentation, any communications, or testimony you can't compel. | ||
| If it's protected by privilege, similar privilege exists between the legislative branch and the executive branch because think of it, right? | ||
| If you didn't have executive privilege and you had a split government, like the one that we're about to have coming up here very soon in the United States, well, then the legislature could be subpoenaing the executive all day long. | ||
| They could be gumming up the works. | ||
| They could be launching investigation after investigation into every single decision that's made. | ||
| And this was something that the founders understood, that they wanted the executive to be able to have a free hand in terms of policy. | ||
| And this is the reason executive privilege exists. | ||
| Because it's not one branch over the other branch. | ||
| They viewed it as that would make the legislative branch effectively in control of the executive branch. | ||
| They wanted it, again, separate but equal. | ||
| And this is why this exists. | ||
| Now, the contention comes up in the case. | ||
| What does this mean for the case? | ||
| It's because Steve Bannon was a former White House advisor at the time of these conversations. | ||
| And so because of that nuance, that he wasn't a currently serving White House advisor, but a former White House advisor, they then say, and the judge and the precedent that it was set, they said, well, we are not going to allow you to even bring up The defense of executive privilege in this case. | ||
| So the reason that you thought that the case was going to go longer, the reason so many people thought was because they thought that Bantam was going to have this healthy legal argument and his lawyers would come in and maybe you'd bring in a constitutional scholar, maybe you'd bring in some, you know, some experts on privilege and why this exists, go to the Federalist Papers, for example. | ||
| Well, none of that exists because the judge decided that in the pretrial hearings they took that defense off the table. | ||
| Well, that was his whole defense, right? | ||
| That was the whole idea of why he didn't comply, because President Trump has, and keep in mind that... | ||
| Brandon, right, Biden, hasn't given or hasn't invoked executive privilege for President Trump over this. | ||
| Now, that's another huge break in precedent. | ||
| It's not illegal, but it's a huge break in precedent because typically president after president continues it because they don't want the next president to then do it to them, right? | ||
| Which, unfortunately, it looks like we're going to have to do with Joe Biden, but that's okay because... | ||
| We now know what the rules of the game are. | ||
| And if these are the stakes of the game, when President Trump becomes president again, we have the Trump 25 agenda, we will be doing all of the same things to him, to his crooked son. | ||
| We'll be going through the laptop line by line, which I still have three copies of. | ||
| And we are going to make sure that every single one of those pieces is accounted for the same way that we're going to account for every piece of crack. | ||
| We're going to account for every hooker that came from overseas. | ||
| We're going to make sure that every single one of them, we're going to go through, find out if there's foreign intelligence ties, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| Going back to Bannon. | ||
| So by taking away his defense, they left him with nothing. | ||
| They left him with no ability to effectively defend himself against the charges because his one defense was stripped before the trial even began. | ||
| And so this is why you saw, I believe it was Wednesday, that Bannon came in and, or excuse me, no, it was Wednesday, the prosecution... | ||
| The prosecution ended, so they rested. | ||
| Thursday morning, Baden is supposed to start his defense. | ||
| He comes in and says, we're not going to call any witnesses. | ||
| We are not going to bring anyone up here. | ||
| And essentially, we are sick of this. | ||
| This is a sham trial. | ||
| No one has been charged with this thing. | ||
| Clapper, Brennan, so many people have lied before Congress. | ||
| We're done with it. | ||
| We're not even interested. | ||
| And so, do your worst. | ||
| We'll take whatever you give us. | ||
| Honey badger. | ||
| What happens next? | ||
| Honey badger. | ||
| So what happens next is sentencing phase. | ||
| So as you've seen, there was no gag order presented. | ||
| And that was a big, I think a big... | ||
| Question for a lot of people, will he still be able to do the show? | ||
| It wasn't for me because I'm guest hosting, right? | ||
| You know, it's a little bit of a time commitment hosting the War Room, right? | ||
| As you can imagine, the show prep never stops and the guests and everything. | ||
| So Steve was not given that gag order. | ||
| He's going to be continuing to host the show. | ||
| I'm still actually going to be co-hosting tomorrow here from SAS while he's in the director's seat up in D.C. But sentencing phase will come in October. | ||
| And so the minimum end of this, one month per count. | ||
| So he could potentially be facing at a minimum two months. | ||
| Maximum is one year per count. | ||
| Now, maximum sentence, this is for habitual offender, someone who is a career criminal. | ||
| Steve's never been convicted of anything before in his life. | ||
| This is the first time he's ever had a criminal charge. | ||
| And so the judge looking at this, and also obviously a nonviolent felon, et cetera, et cetera, it would err toward the side of that one month. | ||
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| That comes up in October. | ||
| However, comma, a few lawyers that I've been talking to have said that if the judge, because remember, this is a Trump appointee, and because of that, and it doesn't mean he's necessarily predisposed toward the debate, and again, like I said, he took away his most effective defense, but he could do something that's called a suspended sentence. | ||
| And a suspended sentence means that if you have an appeal... | ||
| Pending that your sentence will be postponed until the appeal is done, a stay of execution. | ||
| And so, obviously, his appeal would be on the grounds of the United States Constitution, the separation of powers between the articles, between the branches, the executive, the legislature. | ||
| Now, of course, this will go out to the D.C. Circuit Appeals Court. | ||
| All of those liberals in there, they're going to say, no, get rid of it. | ||
| But then... | ||
| And then, and it's very interesting that you're wearing this shirt right now because this is exactly what I'm getting to, it will then go to what I've been calling at this point the Thomas Court. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So I want to dig down on two things. | ||
| One, these executive privilege invocations are for messages or communications about or to Donald Trump. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How is... | ||
| Perhaps I'm just too stupid to figure this out. | ||
| Like, doesn't Donald Trump have the right... | ||
| To say, I'm working here. | ||
| They held that executive privilege only extends between the president and his formal advisers that are working for him in the White House. | ||
| But an informal adviser, someone who maybe is just in his circle of friends, his milieu... | ||
| Would not receive that because they are not technically a member of the executive branch. | ||
| Has that ever been decided? | ||
| Has that been ruled upon? | ||
| If he's the president of the United States, and we had Alan Dershowitz on the war room, and he said... | ||
| This is a constitutional argument. | ||
| And Dershowitz said, look, I'm a man of the left. | ||
| I don't agree with Steve Bannon. | ||
| I don't agree with, you know, a lot of the things that are said in the war room. | ||
| But when it comes to the Constitution, it is 100% accurate that the president has executive privilege over the president's conversations, period. | ||
| Period. | ||
| And no, we're not going to play these games over whether someone was a formal advisor or an informal advisor. | ||
| Because the privilege doesn't extend from them. | ||
| The privilege extends from the head of the executive branch, the President of the United States. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| This is a dangerous game. | ||
| So, okay, so before I ask about the greater overall lawfare consequences of what's going on... | ||
| What's the likelihood that this winds up at the Thomas Court? | ||
| You know, the only way that it wouldn't end up at the Thomas Court is if this plays out over time and you have changes on the bench, right? | ||
| Because these appeals could take a very long time. | ||
| You have appeals that could take years. | ||
| We have no indication that this thing will be fast-tracked. | ||
| This could take a very, very, you know, what do they say? | ||
| The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind finely, right? | ||
| And so... | ||
| I do think that it is shaping up that this is something that will find itself before the Supreme Court, because this is why the Supreme Court exists, right? | ||
| So the idea of, take something like the, you know, what's something that's common everybody knows as being Mirandized when you get arrested, right? | ||
| You know, that was a Supreme Court decision, and it came up under the Fourth Amendment. | ||
| This idea of search and seizure. | ||
| And so, because they said, if you didn't know your rights when you were arrested, then, and people don't realize that so much of our criminal justice system is actually codified in the Bill of Rights. | ||
| Fifth Amendment, for example, I think everybody knows that one, that is the right against self-incrimination. | ||
| You can go up there, and Steve, and he had this choice, right? | ||
| He decided not to. | ||
| He could have walked into that committee and said, Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment. | ||
| Didn't make that decision, and okay, he was relying on advice of counsel about this executive privilege claim. | ||
| I actually think that if you look at it somewhat dispassionately, you could make an argument to say that because he knew he could have taken the fifth, but he didn't, he simply had an easy out right there, and yet said, well, I have executive privilege. | ||
| That shows there was no criminal intent for him to obfuscate things, that he really did think that executive privilege, he really did believe that in this executive privilege argument. | ||
| So many questions derived from this. | ||
| This is the Jesse Smollett situation. | ||
| Am I wrong? | ||
| So Jesse Smollett was sentenced, everyone on the right cheers, and he gets out of jail the next day because he's appealing. | ||
| And then he may be free for the rest of his life, right, for a very long time. | ||
| I'd never like to make the conflation, and I'm no lawyer, nor am I any legal expert, but it seems to be that's what's going to happen, and the left may be frustrated, but the left may be even more frustrated by the precedent that they're setting. | ||
| Because what it seems like to me is that this is going to be the judiciary all over again. | ||
| Harry Reid gets rid of the filibuster. | ||
| Mitch McConnell. | ||
| Ain't here to praise Mitch McConnell, but yo, let's give him like, let's give him credit where credit's due. | ||
| He said, you're gonna regret this. | ||
| You son of a... | ||
| You're going to regret this. | ||
| And Mitch McConnell made them pay, and Donald Trump, with the, of course, great assistance of Donald Trump, made them pay. | ||
| The only reason we have the Thomas Court, the only reason Roe v. | ||
| Wade is no longer the law of the land, is because of Harry Reid. | ||
| I guess, thank you. | ||
| And it seems to me is that the boomerang is going to happen in this scenario as well. | ||
| This is going to be the thing that they regret doing. | ||
| Imagine if the current occupant... | ||
| Of the Attorney General's office, the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland. | ||
| He was the one that Barack Obama wanted to put on the Supreme Court. | ||
| That was the one that McConnell blocked and said, "We are not letting him." Imagine if he had been there. | ||
| He would be there now still. | ||
| This insane person who's locking up, you know, meemaws with cancer from Idaho. | ||
| And going after Steve Bannon blatantly. | ||
| Just take it on its face. | ||
| The Department of Justice has convicted the former president's chief strategist. | ||
| I mean, this is something you would hear out of a third-world country. | ||
| This is not something that we are used to hearing in the United States of America. | ||
| And it's certainly not something that we're used to hearing as conservatives because it seems to be that these things only go one way. | ||
| Well, that's the boomerang effect, isn't it? | ||
| Because we've got a situation, and I was just speaking with Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| We did an interview for Human Events, and she said, look, when we get in there in November, which we will, and you've seen all the polls. | ||
| I mean, Rasmussen says Republicans are 10 points up. | ||
| Republicans are never up in the national poll. | ||
| It's just not a thing, right? | ||
| They used to say, and Richard Barris, the great pollster, used to say, I didn't think that we would ever see this nationwide. | ||
| It may be state by state or something like this. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, Republicans are actually ahead in the generic ballot for the first time in something like a generation. | ||
| And so that means Congress is turning over. | ||
| Certainly the House is turning over. | ||
| Senate will be there, but maybe not as much. | ||
| You're going to see a tsunami in the House. | ||
| Every committee—this is what Marjorie Taylor Greene told me. | ||
| I don't know if she was speaking out of turn, but whatever. | ||
| I'm not sworn to secrecy on this one. | ||
| Every committee is going to be turned into an oversight committee. | ||
| And when you see these commissions, like the January 6th Commission, they're going to continue the January 6th Commission, but they're going to look at it from a slightly different angle. | ||
| They're going to be asking questions about Mr. Ray Epps. | ||
| They're going to be asking questions about who these individuals were. | ||
| People that I saw when I was on Constitution Avenue looking at this. | ||
| I saw a scaffold commander, this guy up there with a megaphone. | ||
| I saw guys in green ponchos. | ||
| Urging this crowd, you know, middle-aged people with little American flags and red hats saying, go forward, you came this far, don't stop. | ||
| This was planned. | ||
| And I said from day one, these are agitators. | ||
| People were putting pressure on me. | ||
| I talk about Antifa a lot, right? | ||
| A lot of people put pressure on me. | ||
| They said, just say it was Antifa, just say it was Antifa, just say it was Antifa. | ||
| And I said, well, I can't say it was Antifa because I don't have any evidence that it was Antifa. | ||
| But I could tell it was agitators. | ||
| And I could tell it's definitely people. | ||
| Who were working a cadre, if you will, working in concert with a singular focus of driving people in. | ||
| And the other thing too, by the way, and I mentioned this with MTG, is that, you know, in the conservative movement, in the MAGA movement, we have influencers, right? | ||
| You're like one of the biggest MAGA influencers there are. | ||
| So many people that are at Turning Point are these great influencers. | ||
| If there was truly a plan to get the MAGA movement to storm the Capitol, you would have Benny Johnson on top of that scaffold, right? | ||
| Or you'd have, like, somebody that the crowd knew, right? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Anybody that they knew or could relate to or would say, oh, yeah, that's that person. | ||
| And I listen to them every day. | ||
| I watch their show. | ||
| I'm going to follow them because that's the person I listen to. | ||
| And yet, you didn't have that. | ||
| You had these completely random strangers that—and I'm sitting there looking. | ||
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Who is this? | |
| How do you use a megaphone? | ||
| He's on the top, and he's got a plan, and this guy's working with him. | ||
| And I have no idea who these guys are. | ||
| These guys just came. | ||
| And look, I've been around the block a minute in the MAGA movement, in D.C., in politics. | ||
| I didn't have any clue who this group was. | ||
| And are these Oath Keepers? | ||
| Are these Proud Boys? | ||
| Because, you know, you see the groups out there, 3%ers, whatever. | ||
| It wasn't even those guys. | ||
| And so they came in. | ||
| They did this. | ||
| They disappeared. | ||
| It was a crew. | ||
| It was a crew. | ||
| I don't know how to put it beyond that, but a crew of agitators. | ||
| We haven't seen any arrest. | ||
| I keep waiting for the indictment of the guy that cuts the fences, cuts the fencing, right? | ||
| You'd think that'd be the first guy who was indicted, or this guy Epps when he's literally on camera calling for and organizing and inciting a protest, right? | ||
| Inciting a riot, I should say. | ||
| And so where are the indictments? | ||
| You know, please go out to these people, not to mention the pipe bomb guy. | ||
| So to turn it all back on its head, we're going to be using this same power. | ||
| And if they do not comply, then they will be referred for prosecution. | ||
| And we will push for prosecution. | ||
| Of every individual who doesn't comply with all of these oversight committees, and it's going to be MTG, and it's going to be Boebert, and it's going to be Gates, and you're going to see, and I'm not just talking about Jan 6, by the way, I'm talking about big tech, I'm talking about the grooming in the schools, I'm talking about the Chinese Communist Party, I'm talking about the abuses when it comes to big pharma, we're going to have to look, we're going to open up the vaccines, we're going to open up the VAERS database, we are going to go into every single one of these things, because they have ripped the band-aid off. | ||
| They've completely ripped the Band-Aid off by crossing the line, crossing the Rubicon of actually indicting, charging, and now convicting a former chief strategist, the President of the United States, then that means it's no holds barred. | ||
| Now, you and I know this, right? | ||
| We know that that's been the score. | ||
| I'm ready for it. | ||
| From day one, right? | ||
| We've been waiting for this. | ||
| There's a great line in that. | ||
| The old Jim Carrey movie, The Cable Guy, right? | ||
| And a lot of people are like, I like Cable Guy. | ||
| I think it's funny. | ||
| And they're playing basketball, and then somebody hits him kind of hard, and he goes, oh, jailhouse rules. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then he just decks the next guy. | ||
| That's what we need a little bit. | ||
| We need a little bit of jailhouse rules because that's how the other side is playing. | ||
| It's not the marquee of Queensbury rules out here. | ||
| Like so many Republicans and so many people I talk to in the establishment, they say, oh, you can't say that. | ||
| The Washington Post might get upset, CNN, and they've got K-File, and they're going to dig up this tweet, and you said something mean in 2008, and look at this. | ||
| I'm done with it. | ||
| Why would I care what these scumbags say? | ||
| Why would I let them control us that way? | ||
| No, we're not doing that anymore. | ||
| If it's going to be the power of will, then we're going to use that because that's what Roe v. | ||
| Wade was. | ||
| That's how we got that in. | ||
| It was, we are going to take this away. | ||
| We are going to take this away not because we want to take it away. | ||
| We are going to take it away because it's evil and we are going to destroy it. | ||
| Simple as that, and now it is gone. | ||
| And so when you saw that, when you saw the power of a singular focus, then we're going to use that same exact singular focus on every single one of the policy features that I just outlined, and probably 100 more. | ||
| It does seem, briefly, that when you're finding contempt rulings against people like Eric Holder for running guns and getting American Border Patrol agents killed, which is what he was found in contempt for, that does seem marginally worse. | ||
| than Steve Bannon not wanting to give up his text with Donald Trump. | ||
| It does seem marginally worse to stump your nose at Congress over the deaths of American border agents, the weapons of which you supplied, not to mention the crack in Hunter Biden's laptop and so on and so forth. | ||
| It does seem that if you're going to have open season on open criminality, then you probably don't want people to look into the Clinton Foundation, the Epstein Foundation, the Biden crime family. | ||
| It does seem to be a dumb play. | ||
| And it seems to have the same boomerang effect that the judiciary is going to. | ||
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| And I would say this to anybody who's talking about running for president. | ||
| Pence is talking about running. | ||
| People are talking about DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Kristi Noem, all these folks. | ||
| And you're seeing this sort of resurgence of the establishment. | ||
| And okay, you guys are going to do your thing. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But understand. | ||
| The other side is going to... | ||
| Elon Musk had a comment recently that I just think he's wrong. | ||
| I just think he's really wrong. | ||
| When he said that if the Republicans run DeSantis, that it'll be easy and he won't even have to campaign. | ||
| I said, do you understand who you're running against? | ||
| Have you even looked at... | ||
| I mean, you're great at your businesses, you know, and you're so good at the cars and the rockets and amazing, right? | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Incredible technology. | ||
| But look at what's going on in politics. | ||
| Like, really look what's going on in politics. | ||
| They are going to go after you. | ||
| They're going to go after everybody. | ||
| And I'll tell you right now, and I think she's amazing, they will go after Christina Pushop. | ||
| If DeSantis runs. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because she is his most effective weapon. | ||
| She's his most effective warrior. | ||
| She will be the very first person that they go after. | ||
| And they will look, and they will look, and they will dig, and they will dig until they can take somebody out. | ||
| And that's how they play. | ||
| That's exactly how they play. | ||
| They take pieces off the chessboard. | ||
| And it don't matter who you are. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're Steve Bannon, it doesn't matter if you're Donald Trump, whoever, Pence. | ||
| They will do this because they want power, and they know they are threatened. | ||
| We can see the numbers. | ||
| That's why they're pushing Biden aside right now. | ||
| We can all see this, right? | ||
| He's got cancer. | ||
| He's got COVID, right? | ||
| But then it's not even so much those gaffes. | ||
| But did you see the media response on that day when he said that he had COVID? | ||
| They went full Columbo, right? | ||
| It's like somebody flipped a switch, and now they're, where are the reports? | ||
| Where is the physician? | ||
| How is the president? | ||
| What are his oxygen levels? | ||
| Is he going to Walter Reed? | ||
| And I said, Well, aren't you the same guys that are usually just carrying this guy's hand and, you know, giving him the warm, you know, the, you know, what did you say this morning, the Werther's Originals, you know, and, you know, spoon feeding him the warm oatmeal and telling him everything's good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They turned into an actual media all of a sudden. | ||
| And I said, the answer is clear. | ||
| They are trying to push him out. | ||
| They want Kamala in there and they want an open seat. | ||
| 424. | ||
| That's exactly what they want because they realize they've gotten pretty much everything they can out of him at this point. | ||
| He's becoming more of a liability than he is as a figurehead. | ||
| And they got what they wanted. | ||
| They wanted someone that they could just put in that spot. | ||
| Get into office and then get all of their policies through. | ||
| And look, they've got their war with Russia that they've wanted since, what, 2008? | ||
| They're getting the climate emergency that's coming forward. | ||
| They're shutting down our extraction of natural resources in the United States. | ||
| And we saw it to Steve Bannon. | ||
| They're going after the opposition party by criminalizing. | ||
| Criminalizing support for conservative causes. | ||
| What we're seeing now is a whole-scale attempt at de-Trumpification. | ||
| The same way that, and I use this as, and it's led by a Cheney, the same way that debaathification after Iraq was led by a Cheney. | ||
| This idea of you have to criminalize and go after the entire party political infrastructure of support that the opposition had. | ||
| That's what we did to Iraq, and that's why that government completely collapsed when we took Saddam out for whatever reason that we decided to do that. | ||
| Now you've got another Cheney. | ||
| Because they can't do it overseas anymore, they're doing it here now. | ||
| They are launching a domestic terrorist campaign against the political opposition. | ||
| From your mouth to God's ears, Jack, let's make sure that there is a revenge tour. |
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