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July 4, 2022 - The Benny Show - Benny Johnson
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Kash 'N Benny 4th of July Special - Let's Save America!
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benny johnson
Happy Fourth of July, America.
I'm here with Kash Patel, Betty Johnson, the America Fest you've been waiting for.
Welcome.
We love this country.
We love this nation.
F communism.
You sad, miserable virgins.
You smell.
You're so pathetic.
There are 198 countries in the world.
Go to one of them.
We don't want you here, especially today.
Get the hell out of here!
We got Kat Patel in the house, most patriotic man that I know.
Happy Fourth of July, Kat.
kash patel
Happy Fourth of July, Kat.
benny johnson
My man.
kash patel
Doing it live from Hyde Park, South Tampa.
I love it.
benny johnson
Right.
And we have our freedom.
kash patel
Freedom ringer, baby.
benny johnson
Right here, ready to go.
Good morning to you.
kash patel
Happy Fourth of July.
benny johnson
Happy Fourth of July.
Cheers.
Greatest country on earth.
kash patel
And I had to one-up you.
Played golf with the boss.
Got the MAGA hat signed on the 18th green.
benny johnson
Get into that.
Look at that.
kash patel
Never worn before.
benny johnson
Show the people.
Show the people.
Look at the close-up.
Just a thing of beauty.
Look at this shot, Cash.
And it's just gorgeous.
We also have, of course, our...
We have our patriotic donuts.
The problem is that my two-year-old got a hold of it.
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So there's a couple bites taken out of it.
benny johnson
That's okay.
This is America, all right?
We are about children.
kash patel
Yes.
benny johnson
We are about raising up more Americans.
We're about more Americans.
And they can have donuts.
I don't need them.
They certainly do need them.
We are here with the great cash.
kash patel
Let's do it.
benny johnson
Let's start off, ladies and gentlemen, with what America means.
What does America mean?
We're so fancy in our studio now.
We got three, four cameras going here.
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We're going to have to get used to it.
benny johnson
Being fancy!
The more freedom that we drink, the more freedom we drink, the easier this and more beautiful this broadcast will get.
So join us.
Please, ladies and gentlemen, join us.
Share, and we will be taking your phone calls.
We will be taking your comments later on in the show.
But Cash and I had something very special prepared for you.
First off, we want to ask Cash.
What does the 4th of July mean to you, sir?
What does Independence Day mean to you?
A man who has served in the highest levels of our government, who has been in charge of the DOD, a man who knows where all the bodies are buried and what bodies are in those graves, a man who's sitting here with a SEAL Team 6 koozie, a dude who's a true patriot.
What does the 4th of July mean to you?
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Thank you.
kash patel
No, I guess, yeah, let's start it off in real unique fashion.
So for me, besides being able to drink a nice cold bud on the 4th of July...
It's a pretty unique story for me.
My parents are from East Africa.
We're Indian by background.
But my dad escaped a genocidal dictator in Uganda in the 70s.
Literally fled.
And went to Canada and then lawfully waited his turn to immigrate to the United States back in the late 70s, right?
And literally this guy, Idi Amina, killed 300,000 people.
Indians.
Everybody that wasn't his version of original African.
And most people don't know that story.
And then my dad worked his way up in New York.
We were born and raised and all that.
But it's a pretty cool story to have a first-generation Indian American, you know, as I announced on your show just the other day, fall asleep on the couch in the Oval Office.
That's the American dream, people!
I mean, that's literally, yeah, killing terrorists and bringing home American hostages and all that really cool stuff along the way.
But then I got to take my parents into the Oval and put them in those same chairs.
And I was just like, look at the, this can, my dad even said, who is a lifelong Democrat, which is totally fine.
He's now obviously on the Trump train, but he was a lifelong Democrat.
And I was like, and he sat there in the Oval and he goes, only in America.
And he's absolutely right.
Where else?
We couldn't do it in India.
We couldn't do it in Africa.
We couldn't do it in any other country.
Not those Western European hypocrites that are shouting at us, who, mind you, by the way, have voter ID laws that are stronger than ours and abortion rights that are contrary to ours before the Supreme Court case.
So I think that's what it means to be America.
Like, you literally can do it.
Like, anyone can do it.
It wasn't the plan for me to go and work for President Trump and all that stuff, but it just worked out that way because you put the mission first, like so many of my fellow patriots did.
And now I'm on the Benny Johnson show, which is the best part.
benny johnson
How did you get started?
Can you give people a little bit of a background?
Because what has happened is that you have become, in the post-Trump era, now that you no longer are in charge of so much, you probably have to keep a lower profile, right?
kash patel
Well, I think it's harder now.
benny johnson
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you've been an ascendant rock star.
Not the post-Trump era, but what I mean is after the 45 administration.
Like, and maybe there'll be another one.
But you have been an ascendant star.
And I think a lot of people are wondering, like, where did you get your start?
Like, where did it come from?
kash patel
So I went to law school because I couldn't do anything else.
You know, I'm the only Indian that was like, I'm not going to med school.
I'm not doing the doctor thing.
Like, day one of college, my professor was like, this is your next eight years.
I'm like, I'm out.
I call my dad and my mom.
I'm like, not doing that doctor thing.
They're like, what are you going to do?
I'm like, I don't know yet, but we're going to get there.
So I was a caddy for a long time.
I used to caddy for these- You're a caddy?
Yeah, I caddy for eight years growing up to help pay for college.
And I caddy for these criminal defense lawyers.
Long Island, Garden City.
unidentified
Yeah.
kash patel
And these guys were really cool.
They were like criminal defense lawyers.
And I was like, oh, that sounds interesting.
I went to law school thinking I would be that guy on suits, though, like the big fancy corner of Manhattan office, making a bazillion dollars representing Jordan and all this stuff.
I didn't have the grades for that.
I graduated in the bottom third of my class.
Very proud of that.
Very, very proud of that.
And then I became a public defender in Miami.
That's where I got my start.
And I was like, it was awesome.
I didn't realize those skills investigating.
Cases, going up in front of judges and juries, and I became a federal public defender doing international cases, defending the cartel out of Colombia and all this crazy stuff.
All that would lead to me becoming a terrorism prosecutor at the Department of Justice.
So that got me to Washington.
And I was working for both administrations, Democrats, Republicans, but it didn't matter.
If you're an officer of the court, you swear the same oath that everybody else does in government.
You just do the mission.
And that's what we were doing.
And the value of due process and the Bill of Rights was like instilled in me when I was a public defender.
I was like, wow, we were really on the front lines doing it, which is, you know, we'll get to it later, which is kind of, I find hypocritical of the liberals now when you look at the Jan 6th detainees and you have 60-year-old grandmothers with no criminal records being denied due process.
And now they're like, the liberals who used to own due process are selectively saying, oh, that's okay because they like Trump.
But so...
Getting back to DOJ.
Great time prosecuting terrorists all over the world, down in East Africa, World Cup bombings, at home across America.
Then went to JSOC, started targeting and killing bad guys with SEAL Team 6 and Delta.
That was like the greatest job.
Kill TV live.
Like, oh, that guy's bad.
Kill him.
benny johnson
Wait, stop, stop, stop.
Hold on.
Stop.
All right, stop.
We have thousands of people watching and all of them want to know what you just meant by that.
Is there a screen somewhere with bad guys on it?
And you can just straight up...
kash patel
So one of the missions back then, you know, you have to keep in mind, this was like post 9-11, the height of the war against terror, a war on terror, Al Qaeda, ISIS is coming online.
So our tier one operators back then, you know, SEAL Team 6, Delta Force and whatnot.
We're busy around the world.
But there's, you know, JSOC, Joint Special Operations Command, which is sort of the mothership, is responsible for collecting intelligence, seeing what the options are.
So we call it, you know, you have your kinetic option, your drone strike, you have your kill capture rate option, you have your host nation takedown prosecution.
You have what is the decision and what can we lawfully do?
And then you would say, who's the worst guy?
And you'd have a Rackenstack, and you'd have them all up around the world.
And then you'd sort of drive at meeting the legal threshold, which is the right thing to do, to say, what can we do?
Should we prosecute them in America?
Should we take them out?
Can we get to them?
So yeah, we would have all these sort of set up on TVs.
And the higher-ups would make the calls based on the intelligence.
And you would see the chain of command work.
And then you'd be like, oh, that guy's gone next.
benny johnson
So for real?
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
It's kind of like the movies.
kash patel
It's better.
It's kind of better.
I mean, if I get into too many more details, I'll probably get yelled at.
But it was a great job.
Then I went to House Intel, of all things.
Like, I met Devin Nunes, right?
Nobody knew who Devin Nunes was at this time.
I didn't even know.
I was like, I wanted nothing to do with Capitol Hill.
I was like, wanted to go to the White House and work on the National Security Council.
Be a counterterrorism guy, right?
Long story short, President Trump gets elected.
I meet Devin.
I'm trying to help a friend of mine get a job.
And Devin's like, oh, we got this Russiagate thing going on.
I'm like, what are you talking about, man?
And I'm like, I'm not here for Russiagate.
I want this guy to get a job in the Trump administration.
And like two months go by, and I'm like, the National Security Council thing's not working out.
So Devin's like, do Russiagate, and then we'll get you into the White House.
And I'm like, on one condition, whatever we find.
I had never met Trump.
I never talked to him.
I never campaigned for him, never gave anyone any money.
I said, whatever we find, the good, bad, or the ugly, we put it out.
We don't dilute it.
We put out the exact findings.
And he goes, deal.
And so then I did the Russiagate investigation.
When we started it, we didn't think it was going to be the biggest criminal enterprise in U.S. history.
But then I got to the White House.
I ran counterterrorism for president.
That's the dream job for a counterterrorism guy.
Dream job.
But then...
I was blessed with a couple of opportunities to be Deputy Director of National Intelligence under Rick Grinnell and Johnny Ratcliffe.
And then I thought, okay, I'm good.
And then they made me Chief of Staff in the Department of Defense, where I ran the world's largest organization.
So if your viewership is not bored yet, we can dive into some fun stuff.
benny johnson
That's really fun stuff.
I mean, the reason why is that you've kind of done, you've done the sort of life, how old are you?
42. You've done the life that people already make movies about, right?
There's a Jack Ryan series.
There's a new series with Chris Pratt.
It's about your actual life, though.
Like, it's about the screens with the terrorists on them.
It's about doing these operations.
And you've lived that life.
This is not a fantasy for you.
kash patel
Yeah, I mean, I was on the back end of the kill chain.
Don't get me wrong.
I was never an operator going downrange, like, fighting the fight.
Those guys are awesome.
benny johnson
That's part of the kill chain.
kash patel
I love this.
Some of my best friends in the world.
And when you launch an operation and you're in charge of, you know your friends are jumping out of the C-17 to go execute an op.
It just means that much more to you to make sure you get it right.
benny johnson
Can you watch it live?
Are you able to see it?
kash patel
Yeah, we do.
benny johnson
Those are all the photos from the Osama bin Laden raid, like with Barack Obama in there.
They're all watching it live.
They're watching it happen.
kash patel
I mean, I was head of counterterrorism when we did the Baghdadi raid, and I was in the Situation Room with President Trump that day.
It was a Saturday morning.
We shut down the compound, brought everybody in, set up the team.
I mean, we had gone through that fire drill a number of times because on that, you never know when it's going to be the day.
You're always like, this is the day.
This is the day.
This is the day.
And then that day happened to be the day.
So we just shut the complex down.
And people were like screaming, where's my White House tour?
And we're like, sorry, they're canceled today.
I'll see the West Wing later.
benny johnson
We've got to kill a bad guy.
We've got to kill the worst guy in the world.
kash patel
Nothing to see here.
And it was, you know, it was one of the greatest moments probably in my career.
To watch President Trump methodically listen to the intelligence, to his chain of command, military, intel, advisors, make the appropriate decisions, take care of our military, make sure they were safe, but then have the gall to actually override some of his, you know, some of the people down the chain of command that were saying, maybe we don't do this.
And he goes, well, no, I made a promise that if we can do it, and if we can...
Make sure, as much as possible, we safeguard American lives.
I'm going to avenge the deaths of Kayla Mueller, Peter Kassig, Foley, and Sotlaw, the four Americans that were killed and beheaded by Baghdadi, amongst thousands of others.
And he did that.
And then right after we called Signal Jackpot, and that guy blew his head off.
He literally goes, Cash, I want the phone numbers for the Kassigs, the Sotloffs, the Foley's, and the Mueller's.
Because those are the first phone calls he made.
That's when you realize, that's when I realized how important the mission is to a guy like President Trump.
That was it.
Like, Saturday night, he could have been doing whatever.
And he's like, I'm calling him.
I wrote him down.
I ran down to the East Wing.
This is a funny story.
benny johnson
Wow, I have never heard this story.
kash patel
Yeah, this is, it gets, so...
This is a little bit of inside baseball, but I don't think...
So the new Rambo movie had released on...
It was a Saturday night.
And the president and his family had a plan before we knew we were going to do the Baghdadi raid that he was going to watch that.
But of course, God's plan was a little bit...
benny johnson
He was going to watch Rambo?
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We were going to kill Baghdadi and he was going to watch the new Rambo movie.
kash patel
So he does all that.
unidentified
It's too good!
kash patel
Right, you can't make it up.
And the funny thing was...
I was like, all right.
And he went, you know, after we finished the raid and the mission and we knew our troops were safe and everything like that, I had to stay and do all the, you know, minutia.
And then he's like, get me the, you know, names and numbers.
I wasn't new to the White House, but I didn't, like, know the whole area.
So we were in the West Wing sitting room, right?
The East Wing, that's for, like, the residents and the family and the cinema and all, you know, like, you don't go over there.
benny johnson
Oh, sure, yeah.
kash patel
So they're like, go give this to Trump in the East Wing.
And I'm like, so I look over to, like, the guy next to me.
Hey, man, where's that room?
benny johnson
You didn't know where it was?
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I didn't know where it was!
benny johnson
And you were alone in the White House?
kash patel
Well, there was a couple of guys around, but it was late at night.
It was like 10 o 'clock at night.
benny johnson
But you were kind of like walking around freely in the White House.
kash patel
Yeah, yeah.
benny johnson
You must understand, ladies and gentlemen, you go to the White House a lot.
In this industry, you go to the White House if you want to interview the president, if you get invited to events, if you get invited to various...
You sit down and the president gives a speech.
You end up getting invited.
You're never alone.
Like, being alone at the White House has got to be the coolest feeling on Earth.
You always have a minder in front of you and behind you, and they're walking, like, essentially flanking you.
No one ever lets you run free in the White House.
This is the coolest thing.
I couldn't imagine something cooler than, like, being able to just walk around independently inside of the White House.
kash patel
It was pretty awesome.
And then the East Wing became like my second, you know, like place to just zen out for a little bit.
And I found a really cool bathroom that it became only mine because no one else was allowed over there.
He always made sure you're having a little bit of fun.
He always ensured there was humor in the situation.
Just because he knew...
Probably better than anyone, the gravity of every...
I mean, he's dealing with all of it, right?
I'm dealing with a piece of the counterterrorism mission or the hostage mission.
He's got the economy, the border, the drugs, overseas, phone calls, everything, right?
But he always found time to just inject a little levity to just make you feel like you're really on the team.
benny johnson
I don't want to...
I mean, I wasn't planning on talking about killing Baghdadi, but this is just too fascinating.
How many decisions must be made?
Is it thousands?
Is it tens of thousands?
Up to the point of actually executing that mission?
It's the 4th of July.
Let's talk about killing bad guys.
America does that better than anyone.
kash patel
Well, so yeah.
So when I was heading up counterterrorism at the White House, we, you know, this is another funny story.
So my office had the greatest office in the world in the corner of the eyes in our executive office building where the counterterrorism director, it's at my whole team that did counterterrorism, border, counter narcotics, hostage rescue, counter in Iran, everything.
On the back of my, it's a SCIF, so it's one of those vaults.
You can't go in there with phones or watches or anything.
It's a secure facility where you look at classified information.
benny johnson
Explain to people SCIF.
kash patel
Yeah, secure compartmented information facility.
Just think of a bank vault that you can't bring electronics into because that's where we, government officials, look at classified information and send classified information so that it's not leaked to the public.
benny johnson
And if you were ever invited into one, which they can bring guests in, you would have to take all of your electronics out and lock them in a miniature private safe.
Essentially.
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
Am I wrong?
kash patel
No, you're totally right.
Yeah, you're right.
We could bring guests in all the time.
We just have to make sure our materials aren't out.
So my office, one of the best offices I ever have, maybe the best.
Literally on the back, I had two posters that I had the intel community make me.
One, an Al-Qaeda.
The other one, ISIS.
Two org charts.
Top to bottom, Al-Qaeda leadership.
Down to bottom of Al-Qaeda leadership.
Top 15 guys.
Same thing on the ISIS side.
And you know how President Trump has those black magic markers that he uses to sign up?
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The big ones.
kash patel
The big ones.
So he gave me one in the Oval.
And it was unplanned, but it became a thing.
We kicked, we killed over 90% of the guys on those two lists.
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Shut up.
kash patel
And I would put an X through every one.
It was a cool, and I wasn't allowed to keep them because it's rightly so that the information on them was classified.
benny johnson
You're 90%?
kash patel
Over 90%.
benny johnson
How many names, I'm sorry, on the list?
kash patel
And upwards of, you know, let's just say over 20. Of the headshed of Al-Qaeda and the headshed of ISIS.
And President Trump, the point is President Trump's mission was we're not done just because we killed Baghdadi or we killed Soleimani or we killed this other Al-Qaeda guy.
There's more work to do.
And he kept going.
And I would just every day, every time, not every day, but every time I would like get my team together and I'd draw an X with my MAGA marker through the guy's face and I'd do a little date and a little signature.
And it's, you know, that's probably in the archives somewhere, but...
Probably never to see the light of it.
Unfortunately not.
And that's the type of camaraderie you instill with the team.
The team is doing the work.
And they're helping the interagency make the decisions.
But then the ultimate decision is the president.
You can get advised or you can tell them we should do this or we shouldn't do this.
But the National Command Authority is the president of the United States, the secretary of defense.
That's it.
benny johnson
So what happens when you kill a Baghdadi?
Tell us what you can tell us.
I'm aware that so much is classified, but everyone saw the photo.
Everyone heard the stories.
The stories that we heard was that he blew himself up, that the dogs went after him and he blew himself up.
Maybe a dog was hurt or something like that.
kash patel
Dog's okay now.
benny johnson
The dog was okay, went to the White House.
That's what we were told.
What can you tell us as somebody who was in the decision chain, probably worked on this for, Lord knows, years, months, and then you were there that day?
kash patel
Well, yeah, you have to, you know, like I was saying, the mission doesn't stop because the next man up, you know, ISIS has the next number two up.
So he steps in, right?
You know, eventually we would take him out.
But you have to make sure you're also informed of such a big deal, like when President Trump killed Soleimani, you got to inform the world what you did and why you did it.
And that's the big comms piece that, you know, you sort of learn on the fly because...
What do I know about media and comms back then, right?
I was just like, okay, yeah, we should tell everyone.
And so, you know, but it's his job.
So he went in the diplomatic room the next morning and told the world.
And that was the right thing to do.
And he said why he did it.
He died like a dog.
Am I wrong?
benny johnson
Did you write that?
kash patel
We wrote some of it.
benny johnson
He died like a dog.
kash patel
Only President Trump can edit to his perfection.
We can put some stuff in front of him.
And I remember being in the dip room with him next door before he jumped in the media room and we were going through a speech.
He's like, no, change this.
We're doing this.
We're doing this.
He's the best at it.
He knows how to tell the story.
We can give him the base layer, but he'll add the Trump.
benny johnson
So, he makes the decision.
kash patel
He has to.
He's the only one that can't lawfully.
benny johnson
Right.
So, that Baghdadi mission, which has got to go down as one of the most sophisticated and well-executed kills in American history.
kash patel
It was one of the most flawless operations I've ever been a part of.
You know, thankfully, we lost no one.
One minor, minor injury that I can recall, which was very minor.
And that's...
That's mission success.
It's not over when he's dead.
It's over when our guys are in safe territory back after the exfil.
So you've got to sit there and you're freaking out for however long it takes because you're like, okay, have we heard from him?
Have we heard from him?
Have we heard from him?
And when you finally hear the radio, comm check okay, then you're like, okay, now we're done.
benny johnson
Were you watching live?
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
Were you able to see live?
Because, you know, everyone's watched Zero Dark Thirty, right?
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
You know, like...
kash patel
We can watch.
benny johnson
You know, you're like able to watch.
So that's for real.
You're able to just watch these missions happen.
kash patel
It's fun.
benny johnson
That's got to be the most...
I mean, I couldn't imagine a more stressful situation than watching this mission go down live.
kash patel
It is.
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It is.
kash patel
And that's the other thing.
People don't realize, you know, for President Trump, it was extremely stressful because, you know, when I was Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense, the hardest thing I ever had to do was what's called a dignified transfer.
It's when you bring your brothers and sisters home that have fallen overseas, and you carry them off the C-17 or the Herc, and their coffins, and the harder part is not just carrying them off and watching them, but going to talk to their families.
And we did one for a mass fatality.
And I remember being in the Oval because the president signs a letter to the families of everyone.
And Trump was the only time I've ever seen him really, really animated.
And he just got tired of signing these letters.
He goes, I don't want to sign another one of these letters ever again.
And he said that because he wanted to, like, reprioritize the mission.
Like, let's stop losing soldiers.
And that was what drove us.
That was what drove the Baghdadi mission.
You could see he wanted to make sure everyone was safe.
And to do it in a way that you can never guarantee everyone's coming home, but at least make sure you plan and prep.
And that's what he did.
And so I remember those moments and moments like that in the Oval and moments like that on the runway at Dover.
And you just, like...
You just get a new impetus as to why you do these things.
Because unless you do it, you can't even read about it.
You can't even see it.
You never understand why we do it about it.
And the media is, of course, out there saying whatever they want to say.
We care less.
We just, you know, we did the mission.
And at the end of the day, the national security mission, I've always said this, should be apolitical.
I mean, CNN actually came on after we killed Baghdadi and literally wrote an article.
Glorifying him as a poet or some nonsense.
No, literally.
benny johnson
Washington Post.
A scholar.
kash patel
Scholar.
Like a scholar.
What are you talking about?
benny johnson
Austere scholar.
kash patel
The guy who beheaded people and butchered and killed our American citizens, our troops.
I mean, they politicize national security.
It's the one thing we never did under the Trump administration was politicize it.
We just executed the mission.
But, you know, it was...
Maybe we'll get back to it one day.
benny johnson
Fourth of July has got to mean a lot.
I mean, obviously, to military families.
I married into a big military family with multiple brothers, my wife, who served, and we've been there for them, and there are various promotions, and they're doing great.
Great dudes.
Fantastic dudes.
Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, Afghanistan.
And the Fourth of July means something different when your blood and your flesh is on the battlefield for America.
And you got to interact with these families in dignified transfer.
My wife's also from Delaware, so they were in Delaware a lot.
And so you see these dignified transfers.
And it's 4th of July.
I don't want to get in the doldrums, but you must understand the difference between the man that he's describing, Cash is describing, and the homie that is currently like no hamster on the spinning hamster wheel, right?
This is a wheel just spinning like into infinity.
There's no hamster on it.
Like, the checking of a watch during a dignified transfer, you can't, I mean, you couldn't spit on a crucifix and have it, like, in the Vatican and have it more insulting, I think.
Like, there are, like, levels of insult.
kash patel
That's it.
benny johnson
And, like, the checking of your watch during a dignified transfer to these families, 4th of July, want to make it a positive show, but we have to talk about sacrifice.
We're going to talk about this country because this country has had very few peaceful years.
I mean, 250 years of fighting for these damn principles.
And the dignified transfer is arguably the most sacred thing that can happen in this country.
And to check your watch.
kash patel
No, you know, it's so insulting.
And look, you don't have to, it's like you said, you can look where America is now versus where we were on the national security front.
You can look at where we are versus Russia, China, Iran.
People in the Middle East aren't even taking the commander-in-chief's phone calls.
They're actually inviting Bashar al-Assad and Assyria and our adversaries to meet with them instead of us and look at the impact on the border and immigration.
But you're right.
On the dignified transfer, when we stood on the flight line, it was 30 degrees.
And my team, when I was chief of staff and leading that team, nobody flinched.
They stood out there for an hour.
benny johnson
Wow.
kash patel
And that's the only thing to do.
You don't look at your watch.
Nobody moved.
Everybody was cold, but it didn't matter because we put the families there and you had to make sure you did it the right way to honor them.
So, you know, that's the difference.
I think, you know, and I almost never talk about that because that's not something you like publicize, but it's just one of those things where you're just like, how is it that we've come so far from the national security mission?
Because that's what I've always been, an intel guy, civilian DOD guy, you know, counterterrorism guy, whatever, terrorism prosecutor.
It didn't really vacillate too much.
It was always like, okay, we can kind of agree on taking out bad guys, bringing home American hostages.
It's another big thing.
President Trump, 54 American hostages and detainees were brought home in the Trump administration.
unidentified
Don't get the credit for that.
kash patel
That's more than every president before him combined.
benny johnson
Dude.
kash patel
Yeah.
And I played a small part in his big part in doing that.
benny johnson
Is he as funny as...
kash patel
He's funnier.
He interacts online.
He is, you know, I get to spend a lot of time with him.
I talk to him frequently.
It's like comedy hour.
It's just so refreshing to hear that, you know, a guy can be president, but he can also be down to earth.
He asks about my mother almost every time I talk to him.
unidentified
Why?
kash patel
Just because he cares.
benny johnson
Did he meet your mom?
kash patel
Yeah, well, eventually he met him down in Mar-a-Lago when I did my interview on Cassius Corner with the president, and I didn't even ask him to do it.
They were just sitting in a room, like, outside.
unidentified
And he comes in, he goes, "Hey Gash, I just met mom and dad." I'm like, "Holy shit, what do you mean?
kash patel
I didn't even tell you they were here." And he goes, "I offered them coffee and tea." I was like, and then I went to my parents.
I was like, "The president just offered you coffee and tea.
What did you say?" And they go, "We didn't want any." I was like, "The president was gonna bring you tea." And you said, "No, what a miss, what a miss." But I think they were just like, they had never met him.
And he spent like five minutes with them and I didn't even ask him to.
I didn't even know he was gonna do that.
He's like, "We're taking good care of them." I was like, "Wow, blown away." You know, and that's just, that's kind of how he is.
He's very personal.
He doesn't forget anything.
It's crazy.
Like, you could pick up multiple conversations down the road, months, year, and he'll be like, remember that thing?
unidentified
And I'll be like, whoa, that's pretty good.
benny johnson
There was an interview in the Oval Office that we got to do, and I saw the button.
The Diet Coke button.
I saw the button.
It was real.
There's myths about Diet Coke.
It was written up.
I saw him push it.
Sarah Sanders was with me.
Sarah Sanders was with me.
And she was like laughing because I shouldn't stand like that in the Oval Office.
I saw him hit the button and the Diet Coke came in.
kash patel
That's it.
Well, the first time I was in there with him and the first time I ever met him after I got to the White House on the National Security Council, I saw the button on the Resolute desk.
I didn't know what it was.
I had no idea.
And I was looking at it like you were.
And he's like, Gash, don't worry.
That's not the new button.
That one's over here.
And then you hit the die-co button and the die-co came in.
You know, you just can't, you know, how do you forget moments like that?
benny johnson
Independence Day, people care so much about this nation, and it's not a day that I want to get overtly political.
Because there's, you know, there's been millions of catalogued deaths that have come from people serving this nation in wartime and sacrificing for our freedom so that we can, like, drink.
Beers today so that we can grill today.
We've got ribeyes downstairs.
We've got fireworks tonight.
The history of this day is to commemorate those people who decided to give their sacred oaths and their solemn oaths to defend this nation.
And that seems to be lacking.
You can see it in numbers, sign-up numbers.
Something hit my desk the other day.
It's like the military is having trouble recruiting anyone right now.
And that's got to be a crisis for someone who understands the world that you understand.
They're saying that every single branch of the military is having extreme difficulty hitting their recruitment numbers.
And so on our 4th of July, I think a nation that has always had to fight for our principles and understand the reason why you have to fight for the principles.
It's because they're so precious.
People want things that are valuable.
And so individual freedom, liberty, these are valuable things.
The most valuable things on earth.
Lenin said it's the most powerful thing.
Individual liberty is the most powerful force in the world.
unidentified
That's why we must control it under communism.
benny johnson
It seems to be that there is a huge issue with our military right now that is driving the regular patriotic young American who would volunteer and sign up and say, I'm going to go fight, but not for that political force.
Not for a force that's, like, overtly political.
And not for, you know, an administration that might look at their watch.
If I happen to be coming, you know, if it's a dignified transfer for me, like, this guy's going to be looking at his watch.
And it's like, these signals are, like, so devastating.
kash patel
Well, they've politicized the whole apparatus.
And that's the thing.
The force, the military force, and I talk to a lot of them still, they're not politicized.
They miss us.
They miss the Trump administration.
benny johnson
I bet they do.
Not because they're Republicans, they're right-wingers, but because...
kash patel
Because of the mission.
benny johnson
Yes.
kash patel
Because the mission's lost.
And you put in guys like Secretary Austin, Chairman Milley, who are the biggest political animals in government.
And that's saying a lot when you put them up against the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff.
But these guys who run the Department of Defense have literally gone from taking our Department of Defense and making it the number one in the world, and we're probably out of the top ten right now.
Wow.
You can take my opinion or leave it, but here's some facts.
When our Secretary of Defense goes overseas and visits with Chinese counterparts, they don't send their Minister of Defense, who is their Secretary of Defense.
They don't send their Deputy Secretary of Defense.
They send the third man in charge to greet our Secretary of Defense.
That tells you everything you need to know.
benny johnson
It's an insult.
kash patel
Yeah, Chairman Milley, the guy who's supposed to be, by law, the highest-ranking uniformed officer who's apolitical.
Is the political kraken of the swamp.
This guy literally had time for interviews while we were drawing out of Afghanistan to books.
And he had time to call his Chinese counterpart to warn them if America would attack.
These are the guys in charge right now.
These are the guys that have said the priority of the Department of Defense, I'm not kidding, is campaign plans on the weather.
On climate change.
Our DOD is focused on white rage.
And I always tell everybody, if you want to see white rage, just ask Millie to look in the mirror.
You know, this guy's running up to Capitol Hill and he goes, I want to understand white rage.
You know, just hold up a mirror guy.
And that's what I keep reminding people, whether it's the FBI, the CIA, or whatever, it's the leadership.
It's the headshed that has just crushed our ability to do the work at home and our ability to negotiate diplomatically overseas.
And, you know, you can pick whatever you want.
The drug opioid crisis, the border crisis.
You know, we've had the DHS secretary I just saw yesterday blamed the border crisis on climate change.
He literally came out and said, climate change is the reason our border is so porous and so bad.
benny johnson
Got it.
kash patel
I mean, this is what happens when you let the politics of the day be driven by what headline you want to see in your mainstream media outlet instead of what Trump did, which was like, I don't care what they write.
Go do the mission.
That's why our law enforcement at the base level, our military at the base level, were just in love with him.
Not for politics, but they were like, how are we going to do what we signed up for?
And that's why people aren't signing up.
My guys are leaving faster than I ever anticipated before they hit their 20-year mark in the military because the mission's just lost.
And that's tragic for America.
It's sad for them and me personally, but when you train up a guy like that at that level...
You can't have them leave because the mission's been lost.
And unfortunately, that's where we are.
And, you know, on the 4th, we got to take a moment to help correct that mission.
unidentified
That's right.
kash patel
And I think we are.
I think we're getting there.
I think November is going to be a big, you know, kick in the teeth for them.
And, you know, Joe Biden can keep talking about, you know, the economy and gas prices all he wants.
But we've already seen what a failure translates to, not on national security, but on economy as well.
And those two things can't stand.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, we are live.
We are live right now in front of you.
We have your questions.
We have a series of questions that we've liked that have been gathered.
Because we're 30 minutes in, I'm going to ask a couple of questions to Cash from our spectacular, and thank you to the thousands of you watching right now.
We hope that you're having a spectacular 4th of July.
We love all of you.
We hope you are okay and that there's not any seizures occurring because of the amazing contrasting patterns right now.
This is my Tony Soprano.
Fourth of July.
Shirt again.
We have our freedom beers.
We have our donuts.
I will be eating one.
Cash is going to do a reading.
kash patel
Selfish promotion.
benny johnson
Cash is going to be doing a reading from his incredible book, Plot Against the King.
Cash, where'd you get this copy?
kash patel
I got it.
benny johnson
Please explain.
kash patel
I actually got it from your lovely daughter.
So I'm borrowing this copy.
I'm not stealing from children.
I'm not Joe Biden.
And I'm going to selfishly read about this book when Benny allows me to.
benny johnson
If you approach my daughter like Joe Biden, we'd have the cops here.
Let me tell you.
All right, Conrad Jones, just to let you guys know, we are live.
We are taking your questions.
We promise.
It's been too fun having this conversation.
I've never heard these incredible stories about killing Baghdadi.
We hope it is right into your bloodstream, red, white, and blue.
We are taking your questions live.
Here we go.
Conrad Jones, from what I can tell, Cash is one of President Trump's best advisors.
Is it true?
kash patel
Oh, I can't take credit for that one.
His best advisor, hands down, Dan Scavino.
The legend.
Dan is...
That guy's just a warrior.
I just talked to him the other day.
He's been with the president since he was 16. 16. He's been catting for him since he was 16, and then he just ended up in Trump world.
Got to give a quick shout-out.
Truth Social shout-out.
I almost forgot.
unidentified
Yeah.
kash patel
That amazing video, Boosted Patriot.
That video was awesome.
And by the way, enjoy your red checkmark.
Happy Fourth of July to you, my friend.
benny johnson
Boosted Patriot.
The one of us dancing.
kash patel
Yeah, the one of us dancing.
I mean...
benny johnson
You know, that was...
kash patel
Independence Day fever.
benny johnson
That was actually something that Boosted Patriot filmed himself.
So he said, Cash and Benny, will you please dance?
And we said, well, we're just heading out to the bars.
This is how we look.
We're just going out.
And sure, I mean, we'll just do something.
kash patel
Oh, man.
benny johnson
This is a cool dancing video.
So thank you, Boosted Patriot, for that.
Diane1616 says, now that Cash has authority, when will he release the declassified documents that were never released?
kash patel
Yeah, I wish I had the authority.
So I've seen a lot of this on Truth Social.
And so, by the way, the only place I exist on social media is Truth Social.
It's at Cash.
If you think you're following me on some other platform, you're following some other Indian guy.
And it's not me.
But I do appreciate Truth Social because it allows me to engage with so many, you know, literally millions of people on a daily basis.
And what happened was President Trump substituted me in to be his representative at the National Archives because we did this big D class at the end of the Trump administration.
And his cronies actually bureaucratically stopped the declassification process, if you believed it.
The commander in chief said declassified to this mountain of documents.
And he walked out and his cronies were like, well, we're not going to exactly do that.
So now we're in this fight and people think I can just walk down to the National Archives and like throw it in my, you know.
My backpack and walk out.
I'm working on it.
And, of course, the bureaucracy is getting in the way, but that's not going to stop us.
I will be going to the National Archives in the coming weeks.
I will be identifying those documents, and I will be demanding that they be released because they are already declassified.
The reason they're not released is because they show more corruption at the FBI and DOJ, just like we showed during our Russiagate investigation with Devin and I. Devin and I have always said the American public has only seen 60% of what we've been able to see.
So just imagine that.
60% and you have the biggest criminal scandal in U.S. history.
Why won't they release the other 40%?
The same reason they didn't want to release the first 60%.
It shows corruption at the highest levels.
It shows politicization.
It shows political enemies using the intelligence system and law enforcement to prosecute a political vendetta, which should never be allowed.
So I am going to continue that work at the National Archives.
I apologize.
I can't get it declassified overnight, but I'm on it.
benny johnson
Is this affecting the Sussman ruling, for instance?
kash patel
Yeah, of course.
The Sussman case, all the Durham stuff, I said I had faith in Durham.
But the jury system, I was a prosecutor and public defender for so long.
The jury system is one we have to have faith in.
But even I lost a little faith in the D.C. jury pool because they literally were shown the videotape of the bank robbery and the bank robber.
And what the juror said after the verdict on live TV or in an interview was, we didn't care.
Why did you waste time bringing this case?
They knew the man was guilty.
They basically said, Paul passed anyway because of politics.
And that's hurtful.
But I think so much good information did come out.
And this is what we've continued.
We built DurhamWatch.com.
Free website where we put up all of the transcripts from my Russiagate investigation, every John Durham pleading in all his cases, all of the Jan 6 stuff from my time at DOD.
Everything's going out there because like when we ran Russiagate, me and Devin and everybody don't want to be telling Americans what to hear.
Read it.
Go to DurhamWatch.com and read everything for yourself.
It is going to be a never-ending source of information.
And when we get that declass, all that's going on there too.
benny johnson
I think this probably is the correct time for you to do a reading for our audience.
Cash wanted to do a special personal reading of Plot Against the King, one of his favorite pages.
And you can order Plot Against the King.
On Cash's website.
kash patel
At PlotAgainstTheKing.com or FightWithCash.com.
Thank you guys for making this the number one children's book in the country.
That's mind-blowing to me.
Thanks to the team at Brave Books and Erica and Believe Media.
It's so good.
We're making this into a trilogy.
I don't think I've publicly announced that.
Book number two coming in six weeks.
And wait till you hear the title.
benny johnson
Right into that camera.
Right into that camera.
The dramatic reading you've been waiting for.
kash patel
Coming soon.
benny johnson
Cash Reads.
His book, Plot Against the King.
kash patel
I've never done this before, so I will try to do it justice.
Then a shifty-looking knight jumped onto the stand.
Donald isn't the rightful king.
Inside this steel box, I have found a paper that says Donald cheetahs his way to the throne.
All of the people gasped.
We're shocked.
How could he do such a thing?
Apparently, said the shifty knight, Donald made friends with the Roshonians while drinking cherry ginger ale in the Swirly Tower Tavern in Roshonia.
And they helped him cheat.
If you want to see how we rescued the nation from this cheat, a shifty night, plotagainsttheking.com.
benny johnson
The artwork, ladies and gentlemen.
The artwork.
Look at these characters.
Look at the characters.
kash patel
Google shut us down.
New York Times shut us down.
We love it.
benny johnson
My daughter, he had to pry this book out of my daughter's hands.
kash patel
It's going right back to her, I promise.
benny johnson
Yes, had to pry this book out of my daughter's hands.
Ashton Upton, question.
What does your mom and dad think about President Trump?
They got to chill with him.
kash patel
They love him.
My mom's been a huge fan forever.
My dad has come along in the last couple of years, and I think they love him.
And they tell me about it all the time now.
So it's pretty cool to see.
They just support me, which is really, they always have, which is really nice.
But they have sort of an inside track onto it.
I'm like, you know, I'll be on the phone and be like, oh, hey, the boss is calling.
I'm like, okay, go take it.
Call us back.
Hey, how you doing?
Oh, hey, hi, man.
One time, one time I actually, I answered the phone and I was like, it was President Trump and I knew it was President Trump and I said, hey, Mr. Patel.
unidentified
And he started laughing because I was talking to him like, how do you know it's Trump when he's calling you?
kash patel
The bat signal goes up.
benny johnson
Yeah, yeah, all right, all right.
Pat, Karen Klein, Karen Klein says, what great stories, I could listen all day.
We need a book of cash's private stories.
Karen Klein commented.
kash patel
Wow.
So, okay.
This I can announce.
I just signed my adult book deal.
So we are going to, yes.
I don't know the title yet, but it's basically going to be Kicking the Shit Out of the Deep State.
benny johnson
Yes.
kash patel
Is loosely what it's going to be called.
benny johnson
I would buy that book.
kash patel
It should be done.
benny johnson
Let us know in the comments.
Would you buy that book, Kicking the Shit Out of the Deep State?
kash patel
So we are going to do pre-sales.
With Budweiser at fightwithcash.com.
benny johnson
Budweiser better sponsor this book.
kash patel
At the end of the summer.
I think the book will release early next year, but we're on it.
And it's going to include every single Cash story, including the meatball story on Air Force One on my way to India with the president.
benny johnson
Can we get a preview of that story?
The meatball story?
kash patel
Okay, so we're flying on Air Force One.
So the greatest thing...
benny johnson
Have you ever told this?
kash patel
Probably not.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, the gold you are being given.
Share this live.
Comment on this live.
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kash patel
Follow Benny.
So as an Indian-American, I got invited to go to India with President Trump to see Prime Minister Modi, who happens to be from my home state.
So it's a huge honor, right?
I'm on Air Force One.
We're flying over the Atlantic.
This man does not sleep.
He just works, works, works.
Air Force One is blacked out.
Everyone's sleeping on the floors, on the couches, on the seats.
Whole plane's asleep.
And I'm awaiting.
And what I didn't know was they had my parents come meet me at the stadium where President Trump and Prime Minister Modi spoke.
So that was like a really cool surprise for me.
And I got to see my parents in our hometown with the Prime Minister.
Like, yeah, unbelievable.
Great photos.
We'll put them out later.
So I'm a Hindu.
I don't eat beef, but I literally eat every other kind of meat.
The boss now knows that.
So we were on Air Force One.
I was in his office.
We were working.
Might have been appointing the new director of national intelligence, maybe not.
And, you know, 35,000 feet above the North Atlantic.
And then the boss's food comes in, and he happened to be eating meatballs that night.
And he's like, hey, Cash, you want a meatball?
And he's like, oh, you don't eat beef.
Never mind.
Have a great time in India.
Get the hell out of here.
So me and the hostess just literally, we like everything we could do to not laugh in his presence, walked out of the Air Force One office door and literally fell on the floor, just erupting in laughter.
benny johnson
He kicked you out?
unidentified
No, no.
kash patel
It was just like, it was time to go.
Like the meeting was over.
And I, cause he was, I was like, cause I was like, Hey, I gotta go like to bed.
So he was just like, okay, get out of here.
benny johnson
Cash, we are taking comments.
We are live.
And we have one of your biggest fans on the phone.
Carly Bonet.
Oh, Carly Bonet.
Midnight Rider is on the phone.
You are live.
We have you.
I'm going to put you up to the microphone here.
Carly, you are live.
kash patel
Hey, Carly.
If you guys aren't following Carly Bonet on Truth Social, you are not doing it justice.
Follow Benny and Carly Bonet and guys like Boosted Patriot and Believe Media on Truth Social.
Carly, you've been killing it on Truth Social.
Thank you.
unidentified
No, thank you.
And I was so honored that on your fight with Casper, You used a couple of my memes where I made you the Incredible Hulk, smashing all the mainstream media.
kash patel
I love it.
So, yeah.
So the quick backdrop is that.
So fightwithcash.com does a meme selection every day because Truth Social has turned itself into a meme machine that we pick one a day, and we might be making a coffee table book out of the best ones.
Carly, yours is going to be in it, but Carly has produced some of the best memes.
You've got to go check it out.
It's all free at fightwithcash.com.
unidentified
Dan Scavino's truth?
I got him on a surfboard.
kash patel
Oh, is that news?
I haven't seen that.
unidentified
I always put out, where is Dan?
Where is Dan?
Devin Nunes is always like, where is Dan?
So this is like a daily project for me to put Dan in all these different places and say, I think I found Dan.
Oh, Dan is at it again.
kash patel
I just talked to my great friend Dan Scavino just yesterday.
While I was down here in Tampa, he's doing well.
He's kicking butt for the president.
And he's taking a 4th of July day breather with his family.
But that guy's a legend.
benny johnson
Carly, what is your 4th of July message to the thousands of people watching right now?
And to the thousands of people watching right now, thank you.
And please follow Midnight Rider, Carly Bonet.
You can see her on Newsmax, on my show.
And she is the top of the top.
The creme de la creme from Long Island.
unidentified
Wait, Carly, you're from Strong Island?
benny johnson
Oh, yeah.
kash patel
You know I'm from Strong Island.
unidentified
What is it?
kash patel
I'm from Strong Island.
I was born in Queens.
I grew up in Nassau County.
unidentified
I grew up in Bayside.
Oh, my God.
kash patel
We got to get together.
We'll talk.
We'll have some coffee.
We'll talk later.
unidentified
I want to join you and have that beer buzz in the morning.
What's going on?
kash patel
They're coming.
They're coming.
We ordered a thousand more.
They're coming in a few weeks.
I promise.
unidentified
You and the big switch, dude.
I gotta suck the water.
I'm going to send you a care package on the house.
kash patel
Socks, a hoodie, a zip, everything.
All the merch you can have at fightwithcash.com.
benny johnson
Things are getting wild.
unidentified
Carly, tell us.
benny johnson
Tell the people the 4th of July message.
They want to hear from you.
unidentified
Yes.
You, Benny, you always know what my message is.
It's always going to be the same.
Never, ever lose your sense of humor and laugh at these people because it's like holy water on a demon.
They can't handle it.
They're a joke.
If anyone saw Adam Schiff over the weekend, now they're pushing Hillary Clinton as their only hope.
Obi-Wan Kenobi.
It couldn't get any worse.
Hillary Clinton.
Are you kidding me with that?
kash patel
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Hillary Clinton and only hope that we are in the party of major winning and we keep winning And we're never going to get sick of winning.
And it's winning, winning, winning.
And you've got to love it.
God bless all the patriots.
Happy Fourth of July.
And I love you guys.
And Cass, you're the greatest.
I hope you get those documents.
And I had an idea.
You know how Senator Ron Johnson, because, you know, we don't have the majority, so we can't have the hearings.
You know, it's up to Jerry Nonez-Nagla.
So I was thinking maybe Devin or you could get in touch with like Ron Johnson or someone and do like the round table when you get the documents like he did with exposing like people that were injured from the vaccine and things like that.
kash patel
I have a better idea.
When we get the documents, we're just going to put them out on Truth Social so everybody has them.
unidentified
Well, you know, it's amazing.
Remember how every time something would happen and the news would put up?
President Trump's tweet.
So the other day they had this Blasdy Ford chick come on with all her stories of President Trump overpowering and grabbing the steering wheel and take me to the Congress because it's mega-country story.
So anyway, they put up his truth.
Oh, the former president has just remarked about what was going on.
And I saw it on the TV and there was his truth.
And it said truth at the top.
It was so powerful.
helpful and I said this is what winning looks like.
Yep.
And it was just amazing.
I made a little video yelling at my TV like I always do.
benny johnson
It was very exciting and I Carly, I want to finish here by doing Two things.
A huge shout out to the viewers on Rumble.
We've broken all records.
We've got 3,000 concurrent viewers on Rumble.
We just want to say thank all of you.
One of the viewers said that Stealth Hartison is one of the commenters on Rumble saying Carly should ensure her laugh with Lloyd's of London.
You should get an insurance on that laugh.
It is famous.
unidentified
It's so famous that they had to take me down off of Twitter how many times because of it, you know?
benny johnson
They love you.
You should see the comment section light up like a firecracker on the 4th of July when you hopped on the program.
Carly, we want to say thank you.
We love you.
unidentified
I love you guys more.
More, more, more.
kash patel
I love you, Carly.
Strong Island love.
I knew you were the best when I saw that 516.
Don't worry, I won't read the rest of your number.
Talk to you soon.
See you on Truth.
unidentified
See you soon.
Thank you.
Thank you.
benny johnson
Bye, Carly.
Follow Midnight Rider.
One of the best.
And truly, that's what this program's about.
I mean, you have to talk about...
You'll find out who actually loves this country and who actually loves just power and raw execution of power on days like the 4th of July.
Because when you're not in power, you still care about this country.
And when you're not in power right now, conservatives, Republicans, they don't have the House, they don't have the Senate, they don't have the White House, right?
Now, the Supreme Court is so based and so amazing.
And thank you, President Trump, for that.
Trump's second term.
Trump's, like, second ghost term is technically happening right now.
kash patel
He's still, like, in charge.
benny johnson
That's right.
But you find out on days like today when people like you and I, even though, you know, you can argue that Republicans do not control major chambers of power, we still love this country.
We love this place.
And we don't float on the whims of whether we are able to execute power or get everything we want, like petulant little crying children.
We don't do that.
Speaking of children, my daughter did, yes, absolutely destroy our donuts here.
I will be eating a donut, however, very soon.
So stay tuned.
Not that I need it.
You find out on days like today...
Who are people who actually love this country?
Carly loves this country.
unidentified
She does.
benny johnson
All of the viewers right now, thank you, by the way, to the viewers on Rumble.
We're smashing all records at 3,000 concurrents.
Thank you on YouTube and on Facebook and on Twitter.
We're streaming on everything we got.
We just want to say thanks to all of you because you are the kind of people that keep a country like this going because the wins don't matter.
And especially if you realize that America itself is an experiment and it's always been about challenge and it's always been about protecting this precious gift that God gave.
And I believe that God truly has blessed this nation and truly has providence over this country.
On days like this, you see who the real patriots are because it's not about power and it's not about politics.
It's about love of America.
And when Cash is talking about military recruitment, that's what it's about.
It's about love of this nation.
And that's what we're here to instill.
That's what this live is about.
This live is about, doesn't, Joe Biden is not the worst thing to ever happen to America.
Trust me.
This is not the worst era to ever be living in America.
And you should thank your lucky stars.
You're not living during the Revolutionary War or the Civil War, which are romanticized, but were hell to live through.
World Wars and Great Depressions, and maybe Biden will bring us one.
Who knows?
But we are, like, the reason we got through all of those things...
Is because of the spirit of patriots, like Cash and like Carly.
And so we just want to, and you, watching.
And so we just want to say thank you.
And God bless you.
And we love you.
kash patel
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Look, being here, I mean, I don't think the audience knows.
I was on the phone with Benny.
I'm like, hey man, what's up?
Oh yeah, we got to do a show.
Oh, we got a lightning storm.
No show.
Okay, I got to go to Tampa to see my girlfriend.
I live in Tampa.
unidentified
Let's do a live show.
kash patel
So now we're doing a live show.
And this has been so much fun because I almost never get to do live.
I always think live is so much more fun anyway.
And I appreciate you just giving me the chance to talk about America, about the MAGA movement, about what it means to put the mission first, which we have always done, to take politics out of the mission.
And if I can close just selfishly on this, you know, I'm new to social media, but I'm getting used to it.
And I see some of the criticism online about fightwithcash.com.
And I just want to clear up for people.
No one's making money on fightwithcash.com.
We literally, it's a charity.
We go out and we pay for people's lawsuits for defamation.
Because I've been defamed and I know what it feels like.
And I know what it means to have your name slung through the mud falsely.
So what we've done...
We created a trust so that everyday Americans, and we are, suing the mainstream media for it.
So all those comments that think we're out there making money off socks or whatever, not one cent goes into my pocket or anyone's pocket as a salary.
And the Cash Foundation is starting soon, which is a full 501c3, which will be doing veterans programs, which will be doing summer camps, which will be doing tuition assistance and education platforms for our children.
So I just want to make it clear.
Like, I get it.
Like, everybody, it's capitalism.
If you want to go out there and make money, go make money.
But fightwithcash.com, check it out.
Nobody's making money.
We're having fun, helping educate our kids, helping fight the deep state, and more importantly, helping our veterans and helping those who want to go to summer camp and get a college education that can't afford it.
Because on days like the 4th of July, if you can't have that message, then we've lost America.
But I agree with you.
Not our darkest day.
Not our darkest time.
November's when we flip the switch.
And then it's just game on.
benny johnson
That's what everyone's saying in the comments.
The comments are just melting down now.
Now we have 3,000 plus ones.
It's just going bananas now.
So this live is going bananas.
Can you stay for a little longer?
You guys want more stories?
You want more background black ops stories from Kash Patel about Geotas on the 4th of July?
I can't think of a better way.
We got a 24-pack.
We got a 24-pack here.
We got a ways to go.
I got my donut.
Let's go.
kash patel
Let's do it.
benny johnson
Alright.
Okay.
kash patel
Can I be the first one to say that if I ever go before a Senate confirmation, they're going to call me an alcoholic?
Because I was drinking Freedom out of a Punisher SEAL Team 6 koozie with my friend Benny Johnson.
benny johnson
We're in Florida right now, and it is actually illegal to not be open carrying a beer can and a firearm on the 4th of July.
They'll arrest you.
They'll say, where's your firearm, sir?
And if you can't produce one, then you're going on a claim.
You're going to be like, are you a communist?
unidentified
No.
benny johnson
Yeah.
You probably ran plenty of communists.
kash patel
Oh, yeah.
There's a few of those out there.
But the funny thing is the real communists are better than the fake communists that we have in America.
You know, the guys like Adam Schiff and AOC and all these people screaming at the top of their lungs that, oh, we don't want to celebrate the 4th of July.
You don't want to celebrate the independence of our nation?
benny johnson
Dude, did you see the Democrat handle saying F the 4th?
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
From Pima County Democrats?
kash patel
I mean, between what they've done to law enforcement...
And what they've done to the military and what they've done to our national security, they've done it to themselves.
And that's why everyday Americans are like, wait a second.
What the heck's going on?
You can't have people killing cops, not allowing our law enforcement to do their job.
What are we doing on the southern border where you say, everyone come in with their drugs and their criminals.
Come kill our people.
100,000 people died last year from Chinese fentanyl.
That's the highest ever.
Because our borders open.
We do have a crisis on the border, and it's not because of climate change.
benny johnson
As I watch the comments sort of like waterfall in here, the one that really starts being pulled out is you talking about Millie, and you talking about the deep state, and you talking about like, or the administrative state, whatever you wish to call it.
And it must be fascinating for you because based on your...
It seems like you were almost a product of the deep state in a sense because you were working on the bowels of the government inside of the intestines.
I don't mean to malign you.
If you want to haul off and punch me right now, that's fine.
It would probably increase viewership immensely.
But it does seem as though you were working in the organs of the state, right?
And you were like, that's where you came up from.
You have to have such an insight into how this operation works.
Is there a deep state?
Is there an administrative state?
What is the greatest domestic challenge to defend our country against enemies foreign and domestic?
There's a reason they say that when they get sworn in as president.
So what's the greatest domestic challenge?
kash patel
So the reason I left the Department of Justice when I was a terrorism prosecutor was because we would always preach accountability when our citizenry broke the law, but there was a lack of accountability when the individuals in the Department of Justice failed their oaths.
benny johnson
Wow.
kash patel
And, you know, it was never highlighted more to me than during the Benghazi prosecutions, of which I was one of the lead prosecutors at headquarters, not in the trial section, but at headquarters.
And I just thought we were getting so many things wrong, but I followed the chain of command.
I let them know my opinion.
I said, check.
You made the decision.
We're moving forward.
But I said, these things are wrong.
It's when the Hillary Clinton email investigation started to break out and no one was being held accountable.
So there are people in leadership positions that we've identified.
Which, by the way, is the greatest movie out there, The Plot Against the President.
If you haven't seen it, you have to watch it.
It's Russiagate in 90 minutes.
But guys like Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Fusion GPS.
I hate to keep going back to Russiagate, but it's what I know.
And you asked about the deep state.
There is one.
But it's not in the everyday levels of government.
It's in the leadership, which is where it's never supposed to exist.
And Chairman Milley is the prime example.
And credit is where credit should be given.
I got to know Chairman Milley just before the Baghdadi raid.
And he performed...
He performed with superior finesse the night of the Baghdadi raid, the way a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is supposed to.
And I stood next to him in the Situation Room, and I was proud to stand next to him.
And he did it apolitically.
He put the military and the mission first, which is why I speak out against him so harshly now, because I saw the man that he was as chairman.
In the political animal, he's devolved into his chairman.
That highlights the deep state.
This guy is talking about January 6th, something we haven't even touched upon, as if he's giving out quotes like, we're going to put a ring of steel around the Capitol.
What are you talking about, man?
You, by law, are not in the chain of command.
You work for me and the Secretary of Defense and the President of the United States.
The chain of command is for the President and the Secretary of Defense.
You're not in it for a reason.
Uniformed military is not supposed to run the Department of Defense.
A civilian is, and a civilian president is.
That's what Congress passed in the 50s, and that law hasn't changed.
But the hypocritical left has come to his aid because he's providing them with the ammunition they want.
Let's talk about this coup and stuff, and let's get one thing straight about January 6th, when we're talking about Milley.
I was in the Oval Office on January 4th.
The Secretary of Defense...
Chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff, President of the United States, the Chief of Staff to the President of the United States and myself.
We were talking about a super sensitive operation we were running overseas.
Never forget it.
Awesome.
Probably never get to tell anyone about it, but that's okay.
That's the mission.
Then the President, two days before January 6th, said, hey guys, what's the security posture, blah, blah, blah.
Do you need National Guard?
I'm going to authorize up to 10,000 to 20,000 National Guard in the Oval Office.
We said, roger that.
Chain of command has started.
The law requires an authorization by the commander-in-chief to use the National Guard at any time.
Sporting venues, Super Bowl, concerts, what have you.
You see it all the time.
benny johnson
So it's normal, right?
So you would go to a Super Bowl or a big sporting event.
Everyone watching has probably been to a large event where you see a uniformed military presence.
kash patel
Their National Guard, because it's illegal to deploy our uniformed permanent military.
Domestically.
It's illegal, and rightfully so.
So the National Guard exists to assist law enforcement when they just don't have the numbers.
And so the law requires two things.
A presidential authorization, which he gave, and then it requires a request from local governments.
The governor, the mayor, or federal police.
And in this case, we went to Mayor Bowser at D.C. because she governs D.C., and we went to the Capitol Police to report to Pelosi.
Mayor Bowser put in writing, no more National Guard.
Please.
We don't want any more.
The Capitol Police, pursuant to their own timeline, which was released just last week and is on durhamwatch.com, literally says the Capitol Police declined the authorization of the National Guard before January 6th.
Those two facts are just buried by this January 6th committee.
And here's the thing, here's why I want to circle back to Milley and the deep state and whatnot.
Chairman Milley took it upon himself to leak stories to Woodward and all those clowns writing books while he was chairman, while we were withdrawing out of Afghanistan successfully.
And the chairman was in the Oval Office that day.
He's testified before the January 6th committee.
Do you think for one second if the president didn't give that authorization, it wouldn't have leaked?
Even he can't violate that true statement by the president of his authorization.
And that's the one thing the January 6th committee doesn't want to focus on.
Oh, and by the way, the president ordered a successful presidential transition.
The Department of Defense is in charge of the presidential transition.
How can...
The president, Donald Trump, be inciting an insurrection when he has given an order through his GSA to transition to the Biden presidency.
It's literally impossible that this January 6th committee doesn't want to do it because the deep staters keep putting out false information about what Trump was doing leading up to January 6th and what he did afterwards.
And, you know, it's sad and it's tragic.
And I write rarely in the media, but I wrote an op-ed for the transition, and it was the largest presidential transition in U.S. history for the Department of Defense.
So Cash has the demonstrable evidence that there was no insurrection.
benny johnson
Three things.
One, Trump said, march peacefully.
Two, Trump issued the transition to power, which is, as Cash has told me, and I did not know this, the Department of Defense is the largest employer on planet Earth.
kash patel
Planet Earth, yeah.
We're way bigger than SpaceX and Amazon combined.
benny johnson
How many employees?
kash patel
Three million.
benny johnson
So Trump is saying, take the largest employer plus the most deadly military force in human existence and give it to the...
Next.
kash patel
Right.
We have to transition the mission, the no-fail mission of the Department of Defense.
Wars, withdrawal out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, the border, submarine stuff, space stuff, comm stuff, everything, the nuclear football, the nuclear triad.
We have to plan.
There's a method.
And as chief of staff, the regulations put me in charge of the transition.
And it was a no-fail mission.
Once I got the order from the GSA through the president, I said, Roger that.
We're transitioning 100% pursuant to this order.
So the whole military moves in that fashion, in that direction, pursuant to that.
If there was an insurrection, and this is where Chairman Milley writes this famous letter like, we are going to publicly get all the army guys, military guys to sign the letter that says we're transitioning.
I know we're transitioning, guy.
The commander in chief just authorized it.
But the reason you're sending this letter is because you want to make it look like you're running the transition when you have no say.
In the chain of command by law, the secretary of defense pursuant to the president's order on transition did the transition.
And we safeguarded not just the outgoing president, but the incoming president.
It's a big security operation around the Capitol, around Washington, D.C., at Andrews Air Force Base.
We have a lot of moving parts, and the only people that can do that are the Department of Defense.
We didn't stop it.
We didn't get in the way.
Was there one single complaint when Biden came in for a transition?
No, because the only people that failed to call us back during the three-month or two-month transition was the incoming Secretary of Defense, the incoming Chief of Staff to DOD, and all their minions.
Refused to call us back.
And help with the transition.
They wanted to politicize it.
They leaked falsely about it.
We did it during COVID.
We did it flawlessly.
And the career guys and gals at the Department of Defense should be given credit for executing that mission.
benny johnson
So Trump's saying peaceful.
Trump transitioning the military.
And Trump giving 20,000 National Guard troops?
kash patel
Authorization for it.
benny johnson
Authorization.
kash patel
Yeah, people keep saying, oh, he ordered it.
I'm like, that's not how the military works.
The president gives the Supreme Court an authorization.
Once we heard that in the Oval Office with four of the biggest guys in government and this guy on the side falling asleep, we then said we activate and we say, okay, we can go so far until the request comes in.
The request never came in because they didn't want them.
benny johnson
So what is it like to transfer the nuclear football?
kash patel
Well, I mean, so I guess, yeah, I guess we're telling tales.
As my time running counterterrorism...
benny johnson
People want to hear the stories.
It's incredible.
They're like, cash stories for days.
kash patel
At my time running counterterrorism at the White House, I was privileged to be given the mission to be the national security representative when the president travels.
And that entails a lot of things, but it makes sure that there's always, the chain of command is always intact.
And things like the nuclear football and all that are part of that mission.
So, you know, you take great pride in just – you always – you do reps and sets.
You prepare, you prepare, you prepare, and hopefully you never have to use it.
That's the whole point.
The nuclear deterrent is the nuclear threat, not actually hitting the button.
And so you're able to be in and around that and you're able to go to the locations of the military across the country and see the operation and do a fire drill.
Can I stop you?
benny johnson
So you're going to nuclear silos and doing fire drills?
kash patel
I mean, you have to as the Department of Defense.
You don't have to, I guess.
I shouldn't say that.
But I think it's prudent to make sure you go and see the guys and gals that are running it.
Let them see the chain of command.
Let them know that you're a face and you exist.
And okay, let's make sure we got this thing right, which they always do because that's their mission.
And then you make sure you hand it off.
And it's not hard to hand off that part of the mission because we just didn't politicize it.
We just said, okay, who's next?
You guys are in.
Steady stream.
Here we go.
Hand it off.
I was at Dover Air Force Base when we flew President Trump out to Mar-a-Lago.
And we made sure there was a successful transition.
There was no...
Time lag.
We brought President Biden in and we handed him his appropriate package.
They were waiting for him and flawless.
And America should be proud of that.
Even in those turbulent times, we didn't fail because you can't fail those types of missions.
You just can't.
And the people that serve them, I was just a minion running around, but the guys that serve them.
These guys are some of my greatest friends.
I mean, the way they carried out themselves during these times, not Millie, everybody else, is to be applauded.
And you'll never hear these guys' names, ever, because that's not why they do it.
benny johnson
So, Hope.
Hope on the 4th of July.
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
The deep state.
The administrative state.
Suffered a loss with the EPA ruling.
You have the EPA ruling, which was like the first time in maybe my life that the Supreme Court said, How about no?
And took away something from the administrative state.
You heard the demon screams from the corporate press.
kash patel
Threat to global security.
benny johnson
That's right.
The question that I have, and something that I talk to my wife and my friends about a lot, is this thing is so big, and it has been around since Eisenhower, definitely before, but Eisenhower is talking about...
The permanent state.
Eisenhower's talking about military-industrial complex, saying there's something weird and spiritual going on there.
There's something dark, and we need to get rid of that.
And of course, everyone knows presidents, it doesn't end well when you go up against the permanent state in Washington.
How would a second-term Donald Trump or a second-term freedom fighter, patriot, who actually cares about this nation, go about disassembling This threat to us domestically, which is an unelected, permanent state that exists outside of politics and outside of the will of the people, which of course is illegal and illegitimate and against our founding documents.
You'll see nothing but the Declaration of Independence posted everywhere, right, today.
It says we the people.
Well, we the people have absolutely no control over the deep state or the permanent state.
And a permanent...
Forever McLean, Manchin, like oligarchy, that seems to live permanently, crystallized in amber, like beyond any administration, Republican or Democrat.
How would you go about disassembling that?
kash patel
It's pretty simple.
It's your bench.
And we have the bench.
You know, I think President Trump...
After his first term, he realized that you can't actually trust everyone that's already there.
You should have been able to, and he's right to have believed in that, because this is the American project.
This is the American democracy system.
When you transition, like he transitioned to power, these people should serve the chain of command.
But guys like Comey, McCabe, and Strzok, and the corruption at DOJ, they served themselves.
The Rosensteins of the world, the Chris Reyes of the world, all these people, Gina Haspel, even people who were installed by Trump served themselves, served their own egos and not the mission.
And so we just picked the wrong people.
And I think President Trump is, you know, hip to that now.
And how do you fix it going in?
Is you have a chest ready to open as soon as the election's over.
And you start lining up who's going where in everything.
DOD, FBI, CIA, EPA, Treasury, State Department, Overseas Posts, law enforcement agencies.
You just make sure you...
And we have the bench.
And, you know, should President Trump decide to go back, I will have some strong recommendations for him.
benny johnson
The FBI director can't tell.
kash patel
You know, I mean, not me personally.
Whatever.
If he goes back, I'd probably go back somewhere.
But I mean...
People that I work with that I know will carry out the mission that we can put all over government to carry out his mission should he become elected again.
benny johnson
What would you say, because you've been so intimately involved with the military, and you've been so intimately involved with people who are putting their lives literally, physically on the line, he has a SEAL Team 6 koozie.
If you're tuning in right now, we have the SEAL Team 6 koozie here that was given to you by SEAL Team 6. Yeah, it's somewhere downrange.
kash patel
It was fun.
benny johnson
Can I hear the story behind this?
So much of this is classified.
That's what's great about this is Cash is telling us stories that he's never told before because he's been under the classified boot.
To visit Cash, you would have to turn in all your electronics.
And like I said, essentially have like a military guard with you to visit cash.
kash patel
We're just telling you the stories.
We're not giving you any classified information just so you guys are.
benny johnson
But that's what's so cool about hearing these stories for the first time.
kash patel
It was just fun to like, you know, when you go, when you get to go down range to some of the nastier places in the world and you get to see the operators performing their jobs and you get to be a part of it.
You know, you're just sort of bonded together by operations you do together.
I had a very small role in them, but they were playing the big, you know, they're the tip of the spear as they always used to joke with me.
So you want to touch the magic.
I'm like, who doesn't?
benny johnson
You want to touch the magic?
kash patel
Can I have a koozie to touch the magic?
Touch, touch, touch the magic.
Some of these guys are my greatest friends.
The missions they did, you'll never hear about 98% of them.
But being on location, being on site, being on a vessel, being on whatever piece of dirt, wherever, on some shoreline, and just seeing these guys just operate is just...
It makes you know that people have signed up for the mission and they're doing it.
They're doing it every day, even when you're not looking.
benny johnson
And they gave you that.
kash patel
I may have borrowed it permanently.
And on days like this, I think of a lot of that.
I get a lot of messages.
From a lot of guys that I don't hear from often, but on 4th of July, you get them.
And I think that's the resounding message to the folks out there, that we have a no-fail mission, and if you can't keep politics out of it, then you shouldn't be a part of that no-fail mission.
And there's just too many in government that think that government exists to serve their own egos, and it doesn't.
You sign up to serve the people in government, and if you screw up...
Then you should be held accountable.
And that's, I think, the biggest rub with people right now is those in power have screwed up, have actually broken the law, and they have not been held accountable.
And it's exceedingly frustrating.
I thought there'd be some more accountability.
There hasn't.
Maybe there will be later this summer with John Durham.
I'm still hopeful, but I don't know.
benny johnson
What about to the young man or woman watching who wants to serve their country, but they say, no, I mean, we're led by a bunch of communists right now.
kash patel
No, go.
Jump in.
Because we need you.
Start now.
Get your bearings.
Get your skill set honed.
Get trained up.
It takes years to do that.
I was in for 16 years.
Get in there and serve.
There are still places, many in government, you can just do the work.
A lot of my guys and gals are doing the work here, overseas.
They're doing the mission.
Some things the bureaucracy can never touch.
And that is a lot of the ground-level operations.
The overarching political nonsense.
Yeah, that's tough.
But if you want to just run the Intel game, the military game, the State Department game, you can do that at post to wherever overseas.
And I encourage people to get in.
And then hopefully in a couple of years, there'll be a different headshed.
benny johnson
Did you have any emotional moments in your service at the White House that were overwhelming?
And you're just like, wow.
kash patel
Yeah, I mean, look, at the dignified transfer, I cried with every single family.
You know, just wept.
Wept.
There is no other emotion in that time when you're trying to comfort them.
You know, I was probably jumping up into the other side of it.
You know, when we killed Baghdadi, someone might have told the vice president in the situation room, that's what fucking American justice looks like.
Somebody else might have done a high five.
benny johnson
Say it again.
Okay, so give us the setting here.
Give us the screenplay.
How would this play out?
The Baghdadi special.
kash patel
Yeah, when the missions, you put up the check mark and you're sitting in there.
benny johnson
Wait, stop.
In there means where?
The situation.
Which is where?
Under the White House?
kash patel
In the West Wing.
In the West Wing.
benny johnson
Closed room.
Secure room.
kash patel
Yeah, one of those rooms.
benny johnson
Okay.
No windows.
No windows.
kash patel
Yeah, you can't see in there.
I think the windows are fake.
I don't even know.
But you definitely can't see it.
benny johnson
Just a command center?
kash patel
Like a big table?
It's not that fancy.
It's just secure in terms of its communications capabilities and things like that.
So yeah, I mean, you asked about emotions and that was like me jumping up and down.
Like probably maybe you shouldn't have been doing that, but you know, you just, you can't.
We can't help it.
And then, you know, hostage rescue is a big part of my portfolio.
And, you know, while we brought a lot home, you know, we failed to bring some people home.
Bob Levinson comes to mind.
I got really close to his family.
Longest missing hostage in US history when it comes to Iran.
And, you know, that was...
Getting to know his family was an amazing but also impossible situation because we just couldn't give him fidelity.
And then similarly with Austin Tice.
Marine, former journalist, captured in Syria eight years ago.
Got to know his mom and dad really well.
And made a few promises to them.
I carried out some of those promises.
I told his mother that I would go to downtown Syria, downtown Damascus, and demand her son back, because nobody in the U.S. government had done that, and nobody had been there for 10 years.
So I fought for two years, and I hopped a ride east, and I rolled into downtown Damascus to meet with Assad's number two, and I said, where's Austin Tice?
Now, the information we got wasn't what we were hoping for, but it was promises kept, because President Trump said, we are doing this.
And they were like, do you really want to go into Syria?
No one's been there in 10 years.
At your level, I said, I promise this mom we're going.
It's a no-fail mission.
And, you know, we don't have her son back yet, but hopefully stories like that will encourage people to jump in and to realize that there's still more people detained overseas.
There's that lady in Russia currently detained.
I just talked about her, Brittany, the WWE star.
They're not the only ones.
There's probably at least a dozen or so between Iran, Syria, Afghanistan.
We still have a hostage missing out in the, you know, in the eastern part there, probably in Pakistan.
But yeah, these are, you know, just think about like not having your friend, your family member around for a day or a week.
What about two, four, five, six years?
So there's still a lot left.
And this is why it goes back to you got to get in because those the work on those things doesn't ever stop and it should never stop.
Wide range of emotions, up and down, but I've met some of the greatest people I'll ever meet.
Kayla Mueller's parents, Marsha and Carl, some of my favorite people on planet Earth.
Kayla was killed by Baghdadi viciously, as we all know.
But, you know, I was watching the president.
You know, when presidents give their State of the Union, the First Lady has a couple of seats to invite guests on behalf of the president herself.
And one time after the Baghdadi raid, they invited Carl and Marsha Mueller.
And I was at home watching, and I knew what we were going to tell the world.
We declassified it just beforehand so the president could tell the world we named the operation to kill Baghdadi 8-17, which was Kayla's birthday.
Wow.
And when he announced it, I was at home alone, and I just started crying.
Wow.
Because it was pretty cool.
benny johnson
And her parents were there?
kash patel
Her parents were in audience in there, and her parents were next to Melania.
Right next to Melania, and there were people I got to know, and they're out in Arizona, and I hear from them from time to time.
Wide range of emotions, up and down, but stuff like that is like, that's why you're like, yeah, that's why it's worth getting in.
You never know where it's going to lead.
You got to stay in for a while and you got to do the work.
I didn't know.
I was going to be a public defender for like two seconds so I can go make money, but best laid plans.
benny johnson
16 years, you said?
kash patel
16. JSOC?
No, in government, like the full ride, yeah.
But, you know, you got to encourage the youth to get in.
You have to.
You can't.
Tell them it's this guy's in charge or that person's in charge.
You got to put that aside.
benny johnson
We have thousands and thousands and thousands of commenters.
kash patel
Let's do one more.
benny johnson
We are the number one most watched thing on Rumble.com right now.
And so we just want to thank you on Rumble.
This is the top viewership.
Cash for CIA director says CapJ.
kash patel
CapJ88.
benny johnson
Cash for CIA director?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
kash patel
You know, look, listen, it's an honor to have served.
Should I be called upon again?
I would have to consider it seriously.
benny johnson
Theory Germs says, cash for FBI director?
Dismantle it, shatter it, spread it to the wind.
kash patel
You know, it's just, it's, you know, who would have ever thought that that would even be possible?
So, maybe story for another day, but let's see how this November goes, let's see how the elections goes, and let's see what...
President Trump decides to do.
benny johnson
Insight into President Trump's thought process right now.
We just saw a breaking report from CBS News that Donald Trump is planning to announce this summer.
Now, that could be complete bullshit, right?
And typically, it normally is, right?
It normally is.
And so predicting Trump is, I think, a very poor business.
Or political plan.
And the man, based on everyone that I know around him that knows him very well and loves him so much, the man makes his own decisions.
kash patel
He does.
benny johnson
And he makes them on his own timeline.
kash patel
He 100% does that.
I talk to him often.
We talk about that amongst many other things.
But you're right.
He seeks many opinions, which is, I think, a valuable part of his decision-making process.
But then he decides.
And so...
benny johnson
Can you give us some insight into his thought process?
kash patel
I think, look, the insight into his thought process is pretty simple.
benny johnson
This is beer number three for Cash.
Cash says one more question, so we're getting out one more beer.
I'm going to keep asking him questions, and we'll see how long he lasts.
kash patel
I've got to get back to the girlfriend.
benny johnson
You've outlasted the TV!
kash patel
You know, what he says is, and I believe this when he says this, he's like, Cash, the country is going in such a bad direction, he is actually hurt by the direction it's going in for our future.
And that's what's going to cause him, if anything, to jump back into the fight.
I mean, he's jumping back in in terms of, you know, doing, not nominations, what are they called?
Endorsements for the November cycle, which I think is right to do.
benny johnson
Doing an incredible job.
kash patel
Incredible, 144 and 10 or something, whatever it is.
Incredible work.
And that's the start.
But I think he literally feels the agony of what America's going through at the border, what's happening to our kids, what's happening to us overseas, what's happening to us militarily, and just, you know, from a position of strength.
He sees that, and it hits him hard.
And I think, you know, from a personal perspective, I think that's what will drive him to decide and when to decide, when he reaches a point where it's like, I gotta do it.
And I got to fix it.
And I got to bring everyone back to help me fix it.
So I think that's where he's at.
And, you know, he'll make a decision in Trump time.
benny johnson
Trump time is his own time.
kash patel
His own time.
benny johnson
Right?
kash patel
His own time.
benny johnson
He doesn't get told what to do.
kash patel
I mean, I'll call him later and wish him a happy fourth and maybe he'll give me some inside info and I'll tell you later.
benny johnson
Okay.
Trust me.
Trust me.
We will let you all know.
It will be a joyous day.
We have a big bench.
You're right.
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
We do have a pretty incredible bench.
We're down here in Florida.
Ron DeSantis, your thoughts on Ron DeSantis?
kash patel
Yeah, look, I knew Ron not well, but I knew him when he was in Congress when I ran Russiagate.
You know, I had to brief him, and he was one of the Freedom Forum guys down there.
So, you know, he's cleaned up Florida pretty amazingly.
benny johnson
It's a hard red state.
kash patel
It's a hard red state.
benny johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, this has gone from a purple state.
Could go blue.
kash patel
Yeah.
benny johnson
Could vote for Democrats.
kash patel
Almost put a criminal in charge?
benny johnson
Yes, that's right.
Almost put a guy who was doing, like, crystal meth with a gay prostitute, like, puking on the floor.
Like, that guy, his name's Andrew Gillum.
That guy only lost by, like...
kash patel
10,000?
benny johnson
10,000 votes.
kash patel
He's now indicted for fraud.
benny johnson
Because of Donald Trump's endorsement, in large part, as well.
kash patel
Yeah, in large part, Donald Trump's endorsement.
Pushed Ron DeSantis over the edge.
benny johnson
Trump and Ron are homies.
Don't believe the corporate press is going to tell you that they hate each other and they don't like each other.
kash patel
But the thing's like that.
No, yeah.
Never believe the corporate mainstream nonsense.
But the thing about the media is or the cycle is, you know, Ron's up for governor again and we need we need to keep Florida.
This is what happens when you don't close businesses.
This is what happens when there's no state income tax and you stand up for the rights of the Constitution.
But you need leaders like that around.
The states, not just at the federal level, to ensure election integrity because it happens at the state level, not the federal level.
So hopefully guys like Ron stick around in the governorship positions for their full next term because we need it.
benny johnson
Governorships are so powerful.
The United States of America.
It's not the United School Boards of America.
It's not the United FBI or CIAs or Alphabet Boys of America.
It's the United States of America.
The governors are incredibly powerful for that reason.
And it's why governors, I mean, make really great presidents as well.
kash patel
All right, I'm going to call.
We got one more question.
benny johnson
One more question.
kash patel
Otherwise, I'm going to get yelled at.
benny johnson
We have a 4th of July party to go to, actually.
kash patel
Yeah, I have a girlfriend who I need to say hi to.
benny johnson
We have a 4th of July party to go to.
And we are going later to watch the fireworks here in Tampa.
kash patel
It's going to be awesome.
benny johnson
And we're going to a neighborhood.
We're going to a neighborhood where the people are culturally Democrats.
And there's a phenomenon around here where, like, they call themselves DeSantis Democrats.
You want to talk about how red the state's getting?
They feel abandoned.
They're Democrats who feel abandoned by the way that the Democrat Party has gone.
There's absolutely no shame in being a JFK Democrat, I think.
Like, JFK would have kept us out of Vietnam and lowered taxes and, like, cracked down on military...
JFK was, on paper, a great Democrat and a great president.
Tampa was the last place he went before getting assassinated in Dallas.
They call themselves DeSantis Democrats.
So where we're going tonight to watch the fireworks, it's like people who are like, we actually are very ashamed to be Democrats.
We're voting for Ron DeSantis.
We promise.
But there does seem to be, and this is the hope I wanted to give people, and this is the last question I have for you.
The realignment, the great awakening, the tectonic plates shifting in American politics seems to be shifting in the direction of populism, nationalism, and the ascendancy Of 80% of the country who believes what you and I believe.
Which is, if you sit down with Tulsi Gabbard, she'll say, get the F out of my life.
That's what I believe as a liberal.
My name is Tulsi.
I'm a Democrat.
I was elected as a Democrat.
Very hard blue state, Hawaii.
And I believe that the government should be the F out of my life.
And upon various issues, you have major crossover with people like that.
And I call that the new left.
And I call us the new right.
And I view something very Very, I view like the breakdown of the old and like the ascendancy of the new and the populist and the nationalist new as something really special and really something to be encouraged about in this country.
Maybe you see it, maybe you don't.
Can you give us some insight into what is the future for the GOP?
What is the future where America thrives and becomes not just great, but like the greatest version of America?
kash patel
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you have to go back and look at what, you know, and it starts and ends with Donald Trump, and maybe I'm biased, but the GOP that existed in 2014 doesn't exist today.
It's completely different.
And I'm not saying there can't be different factions and you can't have your own belief systems and be in the GOP or the Republican Party or whatnot.
Of course, there's going to be a varying spectrum.
But the people that are out there that are saying that, you know, the Liz Cheney's of the world or whatever are going to say, you know, we're running, we're taking the GOP back to what it was.
Back to what?
The people have changed because the direction that Donald Trump took the GOP in.
And that's the whole American Democratic Republic in a nutshell.
It's never supposed to stay the exact same way.
The whole purpose of the 4th of July, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution was it's supposed to be a living body that guides us through time.
But time changes.
Donald Trump changed the time.
He grasped onto what the old standard bearers of the Democrats and GOP had led us onto, which was a lot of corporate lies, a lot of like...
Bulk media lies and a lot of failure and accountability.
And they got sick of it over years.
That's the thing about the system that I probably disagree with.
Americans want change overnight.
And I'm just like, that's not our system.
And I never want it to be that way.
It takes time to change it.
Would I want Donald Trump to be president tomorrow?
Sure.
But that's not the system.
Nor should it be.
It has to take time.
You have to have elected representatives go in and run the republic democratic process.
Because our founding fathers, that's what they wanted in the Constitution.
They didn't want.
An overnight change because it would lead to the destruction of our society.
So I think on the 4th of July, people need to take measure and just say, okay, where are we and how do we get in the fight?
And you don't have to run for office or you don't have to cut a big check.
You can go to a local school board meeting or you can go run for city council or help someone who is or drive people to the voting booth.
It's pretty basic, but I think you're starting to see that more and more.
Ten years ago, people were like, whatever.
These guys are going to get elected anyway.
You go do your thing.
Now, you know, you're talking about a 40-seat swing in the House, which is historic.
Probably three or four-seat swing in the Senate.
Also pretty historic and a changing of the guard in the White House in two years.
So I think you have to...
People make fun of the MAGA movement, and they do so at their own peril because every time they go at it, they're the ones that get kicked out.
And that's...
To me, that is our constitutional republic working.
Because it's showing what democracy wants.
It's showing what the bulk of our people want.
And we'll keep fighting for it.
And I'll come back to Tampa and go down the show again.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
kash patel
As long as I get to mercilessly do this.
benny johnson
Look at these numbers, Cam.
I mean, you got tens of thousands of people watching right now.
Tens of thousands of people.
kash patel
Look at the brown guy.
benny johnson
Cheers to Kash Patel!
kash patel
And freedom.
benny johnson
Thank you everyone for watching.
We've been going for almost two hours here.
We just want to say this is it.
This is how you take back America.
This is how you save this place.
This place is worth saving.
It's something that the left doesn't understand.
America is worth saving because America is the greatest experiment in humankind.
This is a nation that is based on something that is totally unique in the history of Earth.
And that is you and me.
It's based on us.
We the people.
We are the people who are in charge.
Our life, liberty, property, and prosperity are the things that this nation is founded on.
And by the way, when we don't like the form of government, we can change it.
It's us.
It's you.
Stop waiting for someone else.
We have brilliant people on our side.
We have fighters.
We have people that say fuck yeah in the situation room when they kill terrorists.
That's what he said.
You told me.
kash patel
I said someone said it.
benny johnson
That should be the name of your book.
kash patel
I said someone said it.
benny johnson
It should be the name of your book.
kash patel
The answer is only found in the plot against the king right now.
benny johnson
My man.
unidentified
Thank you, Cash.
benny johnson
God bless all of you.
Have an amazing Independence Day and be thankful, be grateful, and prove that we are the party and we are the people that actually love this place by celebrating even though you don't have the winds of power at this very moment.
This is what being a patriot, an American, and a base patriot that means.
God bless all of you.
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