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Mrs. Dana Smith: New Age Insights 00:06:49
	And welcome, everybody, to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
	We are live, live, live, live.
	Here we are.
	January 30th, 2026.
	Yeah.
	So tonight's broadcast, out of the new age and into the light.
	And we got our special guest here, Mrs. Dana Smith, who I stumbled upon.
	I forgot it was some Facebook post about New Age.
	She commented that she was a former New Age teacher and whatnot, cultists.
	And I'm like, oh, this would be great because I've been meaning to do another show on a new age for a while.
	But, you know, God's timing is amazing.
	It really is.
	So welcome, Mrs. Smith.
	Hi, thank you so much for having me.
	Absolutely.
	And that's a pleasure.
	And yeah, we had good conversations and all that already.
	And so it's pretty cool.
	Like we're on the same mindset with this stuff and everything else.
	And when I dabbled into the new age, I wasn't like as far as you.
	I dabbled into the occult for a while.
	And, you know, because I thought these were good things.
	I was told by people that witches weren't, oh, we do good things for God.
	And I was deceived, you know, by that stuff too.
	You know, and so I dabbled to this stuff while not as much as you with this stuff.
	And it's going to be a pretty interesting conversation tonight.
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	But tonight's broadcast, we're going to really dive deep into the occult, guys.
	And again, out of the new age occultism and into the light.
	And we got lots of stuff to talk about.
	Anything from divinization to all kinds of things that from Mrs. Smith's experiences and everything else.
	So if you want to give an introduction to yourself and lead us right into it.
	Actually, I'm sorry.
	You forgot one thing.
	Major thing here.
	Spiritual warfare, guys, require spiritual warfare.
	So let's have a little prayer here.
	So, Jesus, Yeshua, Messiah, we come before you and please forgive us individually for the sins and the dumb things we do every day, Lord.
	And thank you so much for just being in just to forgive us.
	And we plead and pray for your blood to anoint us, Lord, to protect us all from the forces of evil.
	And Father, we ask you to give us the divine Holy Spirit to have Him come upon us to give us all wisdom and understanding and to really decipher through this madness of the occult and everything else.
	And we thank you so much, Father, for delivering Mrs. Smith out of the occult, as you did to me and many others, Lord.
	And where we just dabbled to this dumbness stuff we had no idea, but you delivered us, Lord, and we love you so much for that.
	And we pray for everybody here, and we love you so much.
	In your mighty name, we pray amen and amen.
	So, without further ado, go ahead, Mr. Smith.
	You want to call you Dana or Mrs. Smith?
	Dana's great.
	Cool.
	And amen to that prayer for sure.
	So, I honestly, I think my first experience with you know, kind of the supernatural, my first introduction to the occult was when I was probably 14.
	I was actually groomed online by an older gentleman, and that was a big thing for him.
	And he was separated from a woman who was a sidekick.
	And she did just made me see something.
	There is something spiritual out there, supernatural out there.
	And from that point on, I knew, like, you know, I believed in the spiritual realm.
	And life can be really chaotic and crazy when you know the spiritual realm is real and you are sensitive to the spiritual realm, but you don't know the word of God and you don't know Jesus and you don't know the holy side of that and you don't have that guidance in your life.
	And I really did not know the word of God.
	And so it wasn't hard for me to just kind of sink deeper and deeper into it as I grew older.
	Yeah, and that's where it starts, too.
	It's like, and the other thing, too, is when you're growing up, you want a place to belong, you know what I mean?
	Because you're just looking for, you know, to be social, things like that.
	And they make it sound so good.
	They really do.
	It's like, oh, you could be part of a family and you get to learn this wisdom and everything else that nobody else knows.
	And they make it sound so fluffy.
	And they do.
	And when you first get into it, and it feels fluffy, it feels like, oh, this is pretty cool.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm doing this stuff and like all you see on TV and everything.
	And then that's where they get you.
	And then the years later, you're like, oh man, what the heck did I do?
	Yeah, for sure.
	It definitely, you know, it gives you a false sense of peace, a false sense of empowerment and control.
	And it really offers so many counterfeit things to what the Holy Spirit offers.
	And it is really appealing when you don't know the better side of that.
	Absolutely.
	And years ago, I think it was two years ago, maybe three, I did a show on New Age occultism.
	And I got a book here from Will Barron.
	I think he's passed away now, but he was just much like yourself there.
	It's called Deceived by the New Age.
	And I did a show on this and the story of a New Age priest by Will Barron.
	So he, like yourself, came out of the New Age.
	He was actually a teacher and all that priests they call it.
	And he met the fake Jesus, you know what I mean?
	And the ascended masters and all that stuff.
	And so, yeah, it's an amazing book and all that.
	So, and I'm sure a lot of experiences you had spirituals, you know, spirits and everything else as well.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
	So, what drew you in?
	Like, so when you were a teenager, right?
	And so, what was the headline?
	Like, what did they use to literally lure you in and made you fascinated with the occult?
	Astrology was the, I mean, that's so cliche.
	I mean, I just was a teenage girl that just didn't outgrow it, I guess.
	I just sunk deeper into it.
	Well, yeah, you see it in the newspapers and everything else.
	So, it's like, oh, you, you want your astrology report and your fortune and all that, you know?
	So, and yeah, when you get to that stuff, it sounds cool and everything, like I said.
	And then it goes a little further and you start coming into divination.
	Oh, yeah, you could, you could tell the stars, you could read the stars too, and you could do this, you could do that, you know what I mean?
	And then they entice you.
Satan's Temptation 00:04:53
	That old saying is like, um, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts, absolutely, you know.
	And so, that's the things that will lead you down that rabbit hole and to do more and more and get involved.
	And they entice you with the good little things, and slowly but surely they pluck you more and more until you're deep into it, you know.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And unfortunately, there are even Christian influences in my life that would take certain scripture kind of out of context to kind of support me in pursuing these things.
	Like, oh, it's, you know, you know, there were even Christians who were telling me that there was nothing wrong with it and that we live in a different age.
	And, you know, there were, there are a lot of times that I think someone could have been honest at the risk of hurting my feelings and sharing like the true scripture.
	And a lot of people just don't feel comfortable stepping out in that arena.
	And I wish that people would grow in their boldness for Christ and tell someone when, hey, what you're doing completely violates scripture.
	Just so you know, if you're going to call yourself a Christian, you need to know that this is what the Bible says.
	And there really, I think, was only one or two people in my life at that time that was willing to say that to me.
	And it took a few times, and eventually that seed really took root and sprouted.
	And if anybody's interested with the New Age, there's nothing new about it.
	This goes back to the Garden of Eden.
	So I've got to read a quick scripture here.
	If you go right back to Genesis 3, this is where it all started.
	You know, literally the New Age, Genesis 3, and it's a few verses here.
	Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast in the field, which the Lord God had made.
	And he said unto the woman, You have, God said, you shall not eat every tree in the garden.
	You know, questioning her.
	He's asking the woman, which is Eve, God told you not to eat of every tree in the garden.
	And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the tree, the fruit, I'm sorry, of the trees of the garden, but the fruit of the tree, which is in the midst of the garden, God said, if you eat it, you should surely die.
	And the serpent said unto the woman, you will surely die.
	And for God doesn't know that the day that you eat of, he does know, I'm sorry, that the day you eat of, then your eyes shall be open.
	Shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
	So that's a big lie.
	And if you notice in the Bible, too, because a lot of new ages will throw that at you.
	Oh, look, the Bible says there's gods and everything else, and all that type, but you got to understand.
	And because I get to debate with these people, when the Bible talks about gods and God, like a fake God, it's always a lowercase G.
	And when it talks about God the Father, it's always a capital G. Same thing with lords.
	There's many lords, right?
	But when it audio talks about Jesus Christ, it's a capital L.
	And then the fake lords are L, you know, lowercase L.
	So yeah, Satan is telling her, you could be as gods, knowing good and evil.
	So, and this is the base of the foundation, and this is where Alice Bailey and Madame H. P. Powski and all these people that taught the New Age philosophy that you could be like gods because several times in the scriptures it does say about gods, but again, the lowercase G gods, they're not real gods, they're fake gods, you know what I mean.
	And so, this here was the base going back thousands of years.
	Uh, this is the base of the new age philosophy to say new age means it's new from God, you know what I mean.
	And uh, Satan plays your advocate, which he's not, you know, I mean, he just wants to destroy you, too.
	You know, I mean, so um, that's where this comes from that you could be like a god, you could ascend.
	You know, we got told to you know, new age stuff that you could ascend to be your own God or goddess, you know, I mean, you could you uh go to this um uh astral plane and you could talk to ascended masters and everything else, and uh, it's so crazy, man.
	But, um, yeah, so um, what was your thought about that when they told you that?
	I mean, did they go back to the Bible with that stuff to you?
	I have heard that before, and I've heard people say, Well, there's more than one God, which is you know, technically true, um, but you know, there's one God that we should be worshiping, and there's one God who is worthy, and there's one God that's the God above all gods.
	And, you know, I think that people really get entrapped wanting to be their own God, and it can be a lot more appealing, and that can be a hard, a hard thing for a hard stronghold for people wanting to be their own God and be in control.
	Yeah, and so they assume that, um, you know, these so-called sending masters, whatever, these spiritual beings of the Bible calls them familiar spirits.
	They look familiar, but they're demonic spirits, you know what I mean?
	They'll masquerade as even a loved one or something if it's dead.
	And so, like, that's where spiritual warfare is very important.
	And spiritual warfare, actually, when you learn it, and um, it helps people out of the occult and everything.
Wanted: People Not Their Own Gods 00:09:18
	Uh, because when you go to the regular churches, guys, they don't teach you any of this stuff, and uh, so people like you know, Mrs. Dana here, uh, oh, yeah, it's okay, don't you know, it's fine, so no worries, you know what I mean.
	And uh, you know, the gods are good, and they, you know, talk about gods again, but lowercase G gods, they're called gods, but they're not actually God, you know what I mean?
	If you look at all the scriptures, right, all the years in the history of all these so-called thousands of gods, that if you narrow them down, it's the same name from you know, many, you know, about a dozen of the same people.
	They're either Gilberine, they're either uh Nephilim or fallen angels, you know what I mean?
	Then you limit it down, there's only one real God, this Heavenly Father, you know.
	So, um, yeah, it's crazy, you know.
	So, uh, yeah, so anyway, um, get back to you here.
	So, uh, you they drained you into the occult, basically, you know, all this fluffy stuff.
	So, when did you start getting deep into it?
	When did you say I'm going to start taking this serious?
	And what was leading into that?
	I had sought confirmation from several people before I really started to get deep into it.
	And I came to the conclusion that it would maybe be okay if I was, you know, praying to God the Creator.
	And I tried to convince myself that I was doing it in a Christian way.
	And I was getting affirmations from people that it could be done in a Christian way.
	And I even came across that, I sent you a screenshot of it.
	There was a book that was called like the contemplative tarot.
	And it was actually like a Christian, a Christian guide into tarot.
	And it uses, it used like biblical imagery, biblical stories to kind of convey a message to the person using it.
	And, you know, it was explained to me that.
	Tarot originally, it came from the Catholic Church as kind of like a medieval version of bridges.
	And then it was taken by France and created into this kind of divination-like thing.
	And I did unfortunately spiral from kind of the gray area where I wasn't really quite using it as divination, but ultimately it became that.
	That's what people wanted.
	That's what people were asking for.
	And I wanted to make people happy and not God.
	I wasn't thinking about God, God's word, really, or what God wanted or what God expects from us.
	I wasn't considering that.
	I was just kind of feeding into my own desires of empowerment and control and helping people in a way that I was profiting from.
	It felt like spiritually and financially.
	It just kind of felt fulfilling and it just felt like something I was in control of.
	But it wasn't a good way to help people because it didn't point to Christ.
	It pointed away from Christ.
	And that's just the truth of what it is.
	And it's hilarious.
	Well, not hilarious, but how this was Brittany Mueller, I guess you author, yeah.
	But I noticed how she has the three headlines down there.
	Divination, religious studies, and spirituality, the tags, I mean.
	And it's kind of funny she puts divination when the scripture in Deuteronomy 18 clearly says that divination is an abomination.
	So like it's like I live in Rhode Island, so up north of me is Salem, Massachusetts, and they have a lot of witchcraft places there.
	And they say the one group to call themselves Christian witches, which is like an oxymoron.
	It's like calling yourself a Christian Satanist or something.
	It's crazy how people just twist things today.
	But like you were saying earlier, how they take stuff out of context, the scriptures, and all false religions do the same.
	The occult does the same.
	They always take scripture out of context to lure good people into the occult.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	I definitely remember hearing a lot of scripture out of context.
	And then when I read the Bible for myself in full context, it was just revelation after revelation.
	And I mean, that's how you renew your mind and be conformed is reading and believing and being transformed because you're believing what the word says and not what people are saying.
	Because oftentimes it does not match up.
	And when you're in a world of spirits that aren't of God, what they're saying to you is not going to match up with the word of God.
	And prior to going to this, you said you were Catholic, right?
	I wasn't ever Catholic, but when I was first born again, I will say I felt a huge pull to the Catholic Church initially because it was so familiar to kind of the way I'd already been living my life spiritually, which is attributing power to physical items.
	And, you know, it's a sensational religion.
	It's very focused on experiences, usually from material things and not so much Christ focused.
	Yeah, because, you know, Catholics, we own, I do a lot of shows exposing them.
	I was a Catholic for the first 16 years of my life and all that.
	So, but yeah, the new age goes right.
	It's embedded in the Catholic Church.
	We know it's embedded in Gnosticism.
	The Eben Knights were embedded with that.
	And also, the scenes were embedded with that.
	And also the Knights Temple.
	It's in a secret society.
	It's all embedded, you know, Freemasonry and to Kabbalah, which Kabbalah is embedded with New Age.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's everywhere, literally.
	And then a lot of these Christian churches out there, and even people like Paula White, you know, everybody thinks is this great, wonderful Christian, Herr Michael Flynn, you know, General Flynn.
	You know, and I'm not judging the people, but they are big New Ages and they infiltrated the Christian churches today.
	And we don't know.
	I mean, people go to these churches every Sunday.
	They have no idea the New Age philosophy has been, you know, being infiltrating the churches today.
	It's crazy, man.
	And so, like, you got Mrs. Daniel, you know, I mean, growing up as a believer, and she got indoctrinated, and her church is telling her, oh, no, it's okay.
	You know what I mean?
	So, this is where we talk about this all the time: how important spiritual warfare is.
	And, you know, and the churches don't teach us stuff no more.
	It's crazy.
	And you're so like, what was that?
	So, basically, did you approach your church about this directly?
	Your pastor when you started dabble into the new age?
	And what did they say to you?
	You know, the church that I was at at that time, I did kind of question some things.
	And I think maybe they were so afraid of offending me.
	They just weren't fully honest.
	They weren't, but I think the main pastor of that church was very clear with me that I had to leave all of the New Age stuff behind.
	And I was just kind of in a state of hanging on to some things still.
	So that pastor did try to redirect me.
	And there was also the Sunday school teacher who made a comment about like a crystal I was wearing one time.
	And I was like, that's weird.
	I, because I had made a post in one of my mom's groups asking how does everyone feel about crystals and stuff and tarot.
	And should I still, is there a church for me?
	And they were like, I can't believe you'd even have to ask that.
	Like, they accept everybody.
	You should be allowed to do whatever you want, is essentially what they were saying.
	And it just, when you ask the world for their opinion, you're going to get worldly answers.
	And if you don't know the word of God, you're going to take that as affirmation.
	And that's what happened.
	Exactly.
	So basically, they're just like tickling your ears, so to speak.
	But it was a good thing that your main pastor did, you know, try to warn you about that.
	But when you got the world around you, it's like, oh, no, it's okay.
	It's all gentle, whatever.
	You know, especially young.
	I mean, I was down at Road Hill, man.
	And yeah, it's like, you know, most of the time you go with the world says because it feels good, you know.
	And that's us, you know, meeting the team when I was a teenager when I dabbled in the occult too because it felt good, you know what I mean?
	And then because it was worldly, you know.
	And so, so anyway, like you got into the so did you stop going to the church after that or you continue more with the new age?
	Well, we actually ended up moving and I ended up switching churches.
	And this new past, and my previous pastor was amazing, but this new one, his messages were just kind of hitting a little harder.
	I just kind of was opening my ears more to God speaking directly to me instead of walking in and me receiving as this is a general message to everybody.
	I kind of was more aware of God's presence and the fact that He does speak directly to us and He uses every moment of every day to speak to us.
	And it's really important to make it to church and hear those sermons and hear what He has to say to you because He does use His people to deliver messages.
	And so I think I was just hearing a little more with intentionality and really applying it to my life and looking for what He's trying to tell me in those situations.
God's Direct Messages 00:15:32
	And conviction came quickly and fiercely.
	Yeah.
	So it kind of happened to me.
	I was like, yeah, the Holy Spirit started reaching out and redirecting you and all that.
	So if you want to describe the things you did, and you were talking to me the other day that people used to come for you for advice for terror readings and all that.
	And if you want to describe the angel numbers and all that other stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	And even after I was born again, I was angel numbers were something it took me a minute to come around on.
	There even was a girl who randomly added me on Facebook and was like, hey, I noticed you're Christian, but you're posting angel numbers.
	You know, you really shouldn't be doing that.
	They're not compatible.
	And I was like, oh, whatever.
	You know, I wasn't hearing it at the time.
	But it kept weighing on me.
	I kept thinking about it and I searched for the answer biblically.
	I'm like, well, you know, angels are, I mean, numbers are important in the Bible.
	I've learned a lot about like Greek numerology and stuff like that.
	And, you know, the number seven is symbolic and important.
	And there's stuff like that in the Bible, but not the way that I was using it.
	And it can, I think that can be a way for people to receive very deceptive messages and look for signs in places where it's not really a sign from God.
	It's something, something else.
	In other words, if somebody gets 11-11 on the clock a lot, things like that, they think it's coming from an angel.
	Yeah, I mean, I was that person for a long time.
	And now I'm like, you know, God can comfort me any time of the day.
	I mean, if you take comfort in that, if you feel like it's like a little wink from God, I don't see anything inherently evil from that.
	But the way that I was treating angel numbers was just a little bit, it just wasn't right.
	It just wasn't right.
	Yeah, because I got our relatives that still, I'm trying to help them with that.
	But every time she sees 11-11, she digs her mom talking to her in the spirit world because her aunts are literally out there with the new age stuff at all.
	They do the smudging and everything and all that.
	I try to warn about that stuff.
	But, you know, it's funny how they sit there and laugh and mock about the God stuff.
	But yet they'll be encouraged about people going around using sage and salt that doesn't affect demons at all.
	You know what I mean?
	And yeah, it's just crazy stuff really is.
	And yeah, so did you actually do that?
	Did you go to do any house cleansings and all that?
	I cleanse my own house with sage very frequently.
	And I can tell you right now, it did not work when it did not work.
	But when I learned to call on the name of Jesus in times of despair and struggle and chaos in the home, I'll tell you that that definitely does work.
	Oh, yeah, the blood of Christ, absolutely.
	And that's how I try to explain to people too.
	It's like, I'm not trying to offend you, but you know, the blood of Christ, sage is good for cooking.
	Yeah, put it in your food.
	That's great stuff, you know, but you're not spreading around and burning the house and then salt.
	It's like, then if they understood how demons are, the demons are not bound by salt or these things.
	They're bound by the blood of Jesus Christ.
	So you learned all the stuff in, obviously, the New Age and all that.
	So did you do a lot of this stuff?
	I mean, did people call you for help and everything?
	And when they had something going on in the house or one of the answers?
	You know, I wasn't really used as much for like a deliverance type thing.
	It was really more like insight to relationships and like financial stuff sometimes.
	But usually it was romantic.
	Usually it was more like introspective and prophetic in a like directional sort of way that this person was needing help with.
	And that was mostly what people would come to me for.
	And would you do tarot card readings, crystal balls, or anything like that?
	I would do tarot readings.
	Sometimes I would use my crystal cards.
	And this is.
	They were my favorite.
	I was the most attached to my crystal cards.
	And basically each crystal would kind of, it would have a special attached message or feeling attached to it.
	And like the cards together could sometimes kind of tell a story or sometimes individually say different things.
	But part of what held me, held me back, ironically, was I had been convicted that the cards were demonic.
	I had been told by a preacher point blank, period, this gift is from the devil.
	You are speaking to demons, not to God.
	And part of why it was so hard for me to quit it, even after hearing that and having a horrible nightmare where like the devil was literally trying to grab me and keep me.
	I had a nightmare that just, I just woke up in sweats and was just like, that was like real.
	That was, that was real.
	I should not be doing this stuff clearly.
	Like that was symbolic to me that the devil's trying to keep me in this bondage and in this life.
	And I was hospitalized during that time because things were just so bad and I was so stressed out.
	So that was in a mental hospital.
	And the pastor in that mental hospital was the one who told me to get out and then it's wrong.
	And that was the night that I had the nightmare.
	Returning home, Justin was like really encouraging me to stay in it because he thought it made me happy, which it in a counterfeit way it did.
	And I was starting to make money doing it, good money.
	Like in a day, I could make a hundred bucks by donation-based readings.
	It was nice.
	So he fanned my crystal cards in front of me.
	And I'm not going to say what the card was or anything.
	I'm not really trying to glorify it here, but he fanned the cards in front of me.
	I picked my favorite card in the deck.
	It was the prettiest, most beautiful one.
	And it literally meant you're receiving a message from angels.
	And I was just like, wow.
	And it just, the experience was so, it was so good and reassuring that I fell back into it for a little while after that too.
	Like I just couldn't, I just couldn't quite put it down yet.
	But I did end up not long after that, I ended up burning it all and just being done with all of it and being like, no, God's word is clear.
	This stuff is an abomination to him.
	And I want a relationship with him more than I want this life that was new and exciting and empowering.
	You know, I want a relationship with him more.
	And that just opened a whole new world for me.
	Well, yeah.
	And that's what delays a lot of people from believing that because they start seeing the truth.
	But on the other hand, they got a lot of people coming to them for answers and they feel responsibility and they're making good money.
	So that keeps them in the occult.
	And even though in their hearts, they're starting to see the evilness.
	But I think the money would keep them in and all that stuff, keep them involved in all that.
	But I guess your case, which is good, you had a conviction, right, from the Holy Spirit.
	Is that correct?
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	Definitely a conviction from the Holy Spirit.
	Yeah.
	Oh, nice.
	And did you use regular tarot cards too?
	Yeah, I used regular as well.
	It just wasn't my favorite deck to use, but I used those a lot as well.
	And people liked doing that one probably the most was the original, you know, tarot deck.
	And it was almost always, you know, questions about relationships.
	That's just what was the most common thing requested and asked about.
	And did you at all dabble into elemental magic?
	No, no, not really.
	Yeah, I honestly, I really didn't do a whole lot of the witchcraft stuff.
	I did the divination stuff, but like the witchcraft-you like potions and spells and like that stuff, it just kind of freaked me out, honestly.
	Yeah, because when I was doing the witchcraft and all that, and I was starting to look into that stuff, but you know, thank God the Lord got me out of that before it got too deep.
	You know, because again, I always knew that, oh, we do things for God.
	We're white witches and it's white magic.
	And, you know, then I kind of learned there's no such thing as white magic.
	It's just an indoctrination tool to get you into the dark arts, the left-handed path, they call it.
	And like, yeah, it's crazy.
	And so, and I can see, again, I only smidged into the new age, that's it, but I was more into the witchcraft part.
	And so I could see where the same thing is very similar, how they lure you in with these good things, so-called good things and everything else.
	And to make you feel good, you're helping people and things like that.
	And you're using these tools of nature, like crystals and whatnot, to help people and come to find out, you know, using God's creation as an abomination, you know?
	So that's where that goes.
	And it's crazy.
	So did you ever use crystal balls at all?
	No, no, I didn't.
	Actually, do you have experience with people?
	I've never even met someone who did.
	And there was a lot in the groups I was in, but I didn't see anyone really use balls.
	Yeah, mainly it was either the tarot cards with us and the Ouija boards.
	You know what I mean?
	That's one thing, even when I was in there, I've never touched the Ouija board ever.
	And so thankfully, I mean, even when I was a part of ghost hunting groups, the people we used to work with, they used to bring the Ouija boards and all that.
	And I never, I couldn't touch it.
	You know what I mean?
	And I didn't even know better at the time.
	It was just the Holy Spirit, you know, keeping away from that because I've seen a lot of dangers.
	Did you, you guys dabble with the Ouija board at all?
	No, never, never with the Ouija board.
	And I would love to hear your perspective on ghosts as someone who used to hunt them.
	This is something Justin and I have never been able to see eye to eye on.
	I think ghosts are just straight up demons.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, for a while, I used to think I'm going to go out there and prove that the dead communicate with us and everything else.
	So I came across the prophet Samuel.
	And if you read the book of Samuel, King Saul, I guess he was doing some bad things.
	God cut him off for a while to teach him lessons.
	So instead of repenting and go back to God, King Saul decided to go.
	And at the time, witches were outlawed there.
	So he decided to go against his own order, God's own order, and seek the witch of Endor to say, hey, I need to summon the prophet Saul.
	I mean, the prophet Samuel, because God's not talking to me, I need to talk to him.
	So she summoned what he perceived to be the prophet Samuel, which was not at all.
	It was a familiar spirit.
	A familiar spirit would be, and I learned this the hard way, too, doing the ghost hunting over the years, that these demons, and same thing when you do the New Age and all that, these so-called ascended masters, all these dead spirits you're talking to, for a longest time I thought they were relatives.
	I thought they were ghosts of the past, things like that.
	Come to find out, no, they're familiar spirits.
	So what it is, is a demon.
	There's many classifications of demons, unclean spirits, and a familiar spirit is something that will look familiar.
	And the crazy part of this is like people do seances.
	They dig that talk into their dead mother, you know, or dead father or whatever, you know what I mean?
	A dead loved one.
	They'll come and they'll tell you stuff only you two knew, and that's where they get you.
	They look like them, even smell like them, that perfume and whole nine yards.
	And they look so convincing that that is the spirit of your mom or the spirit that the person died in the house years ago and tell you everything about it, you know, to the details.
	But the thing is, um, we've got to understand too, these spirits they go back to the ancient days.
	Uh, they're the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
	The fallen angels had the children with the daughters of man, they were giants and men of renown.
	So, when the Lord killed them, he cursed the spirits to roam the earth until judgment day.
	These are many of these are very intelligent and a lot of them just barbaric, whatever the case.
	So, they've been around since the ancient days.
	So, they've sitting there, they watched my, you know, everything my grandfather said, everything his father said, and so on, all the way up to me.
	So, it will be easy for them to masquerade as my mom or grandmother and tell me stuff that I, me and her only knew, nobody else knew.
	And even to tell you, hey, well, we know where, you know, they, you know, a family heirloom that got lost in the home somewhere.
	And they'll bring a person into a seance.
	And that spirit will tell them, oh, yeah, it's right behind the wall, behind the refrigerator.
	They'll go behind the walls right there.
	Boom.
	All this stuff to deceive people.
	But the actuality is it's not them.
	And I'm dealing with the ghost hunting.
	We had the spirit boxes.
	We had EVPs that we used, tape recorders and all that to try to communicate with these things.
	And they will communicate with us.
	You know, sound like a woman or a kid, things like that.
	They'll see we'll see an operation.
	Looks like a little girl, something on a graveyard.
	And in the end, come to find out wasn't any of those people.
	It was an unclean spirit.
	After years, I mean, it took me years for somebody to convince me to that until I started going to the Bible and learning spiritual warfare.
	Then being on the field itself, you know, your hands-on experience, then I learned the hard way.
	And then here's the thing.
	And I tell people, if you're not convinced with this, right, if you're not convinced, this is what you do.
	Because the scripture says, Paul says this, the challenge every spirit to see if they're of God.
	So a spirit will come to you, say they're of the Lord or your relative, whatever.
	See, a demonic spirit, they don't want to be challenged.
	If it's an angel of the Lord, the angel of the Lord will come to you.
	He's not going to give you codes and messages.
	He's got to tell you directly, I'm an angel from the Lord.
	But we're supposed to challenge them too.
	Because a spirit from the Lord will tell you, if you say, hey, I'm going to challenge you in the name of Jesus Christ.
	If you're not of the Lord, leave now.
	They're going to get angry.
	Oh, man, they're going to charge at you.
	But a spirit of the Lord's going to welcome that challenge.
	Say, yes, Jesus Christ is my Lord.
	And he's going to tell you that, right?
	And then, you know, it's the spirit of the Lord.
	But the scripture teaches us that these demons, they don't want to be challenged.
	And they're going to come out and reveal who they are real quick.
	So if you think you're talking to your mom or whoever, you know, challenge them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
	If they are not of the Lord, leave.
	I've counted this even like recent times, weeks ago.
	I have things that like push on my bed, on my legs, and all this stuff.
	And I say, right now, if you are not of the Lord, in the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave right now.
	Instantly gone, it stops.
	It's been a few times that, because I went to a stroke a few years ago, two years ago, and I had a lot of numbness on my leg.
	And a lot of times I'll be, I'll feel something massaging my foot, like my top of my foot and all that.
	And I can feel warmness coming through my body.
	And it feels great.
	And I'm like, if you're, and I yelled out, if you are not of the Lord, if you're not of Jesus Christ, I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to leave.
	And it's still there.
	You're still doing it.
	And it feels great.
	You know what I mean?
	And the circulation came back in my body.
	But there's times that the other way around that's not of the Lord and they leave instantly.
	My bed's shaking or something's getting kicked on the couch or something.
	I'm laying on the couch one day.
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	And something's like pitter-pattering on the cushions of the couch.
	I'm like, what the heck is going on?
	So these are just examples how to, and again, if you don't believe that these are evil spirits, I would tell people to challenge the spirits.
	And they're going to reveal themselves, you know, I mean, and uh, challenge in the name of Jesus Christ, and they will reveal themselves.
	And you're going to find out real quick.
	That's how I found out that these are not dead relatives or dead people that you're trying to hunt and ghost hunting, you know.
	And you know, that's actually exactly how uh like psychics work.
	Um, they uh, that's that's how they access this information that they shouldn't know.
	You know, when I was very specific, and you know, I'll use a girl as an example.
	Um, she wanted questions about her boyfriend that had ghosted her and been acting weird.
	And I was very specific.
	And is he someone who tends to be very impulsive financially?
	And she hadn't given me any background information on this person at all, just that he was an ex that wouldn't talk to her.
	And she wanted to know if they could get back together.
	That was it.
	And I was, you know, telling her these specific, you know, reasons that he disappeared and he was acting the way he was.
	And that's because I was operating in a spiritual realm with demons, familiar spirits that will go from one person to another and share this information because they are trying to glorify the dark part of the spiritual realm and keep people turned away from Christ.
	And so, in the new age, did you guys do any chakras, third eye penile gland, trying to, you know, summon ascended masses through your penile gland, do like meditation and all that?
	I had a ton of friends who did stuff like that, but it wasn't something that I had ever gotten done or really pursued.
	That just wasn't really, I mean, just not really my area, not something that I had gotten into yet.
	I'm sure if I had stayed on that path, I would have eventually checked that out, but it just wasn't what I was into at the time.
	So, you're never astral projected or anything like that?
	No, I think other people's astral projection stories are very real and very interesting to hear about.
	But I've never personally done that, but I have had like an out-of-body experience, I would say, where it kind of felt like I was looking down at myself.
	But that's a little bit different than astral projection.
	I think that's what happened to me because I was actually trying to do astral projection.
	And I remember leaving, I'm sitting on my bed, like staring into a candle, and I left my body.
	I'm looking down on my, I'm seeing myself sit on the bed staring at the candle.
	And then being just like, by the time the realization hit me, I'm like, what the heck is going on?
	It feels like you're not in the dream state.
	It's very, very real, but you don't feel pain or nothing.
	And it scared me.
	And I like fell into my body, never did it again.
	You know, and I didn't know at the time, again, I thought these things were okay to do.
	You know what I mean?
	I never knew the Bible had done much about divination or that.
	So, and I at the time when I was doing this stuff, I still believed in God.
	You know what I mean?
	But again, I was misled.
	You know what I mean?
	A lot of these spirits to mislead me and everything.
	It's very creepy stuff.
	So, yeah, so it's a good thing.
	So, what age were you when you left?
	Like, completely denounced and repented from all that.
	It was November of 2024.
	Oh, wow.
	That I really became like a committed follower of Christ and was reading my Bible and just really trying to be obedient to a word.
	Oh, wow, that's pretty cool.
	And you sent me these other slides too here.
	The pictures you made coming from the New Age background and esotericism and versus the gospel.
	Mysticism.
	So do you want to go over those?
	What was your question?
	The two slides that you sent me, the pictures that you made.
	Oh, yeah.
	Are you able to put those up?
	Yep.
	Esotericism versus the gospel.
	Yes.
	Yep, it's up on screen if you want to go over that.
	Yeah, so this is this kind of touches on what we were talking about earlier, kind of something that the Catholic Church does a little bit in the New Age occult does a lot of it, just kind of attributing supernatural wisdom through a means of a ritual or a physical item.
	You know, God's not a God of confusion.
	It says right there, God has spoken plainly through his Son, received by hearing and believing, Romans 10, 10, 17.
	I think anytime someone is very confused about something and unsure, that's a sure sign that there's something other than God speaking to them.
	And I definitely was extremely confused back when I was living my New Age life.
	I was constantly confused.
	And, you know, he's called the Prince of Peace for a reason.
	Very good reason.
	And did you ever encounter any spiritual beings during your experience with the occult?
	I mean, I would say I was constantly encountering spiritual beings.
	They just, and I won't say that I never had any experiences with the Holy Spirit while I was, I think people can have experience with the Holy Spirit even in the middle of doing something they shouldn't be doing.
	And that, and that purpose is to turn them around.
	And I think that happened several times before I really got the message.
	But I think a lot of my communicating was with bad spiritual beings that, you know, were specifically spirits of fear, spirits of chaos, spirits of unforgiveness and jealousy and bitterness.
	And I mean, there were sins of all kinds rampant in my life.
	And it says something like about that in James, how when you see jealousy and selfish ambition, which the whole big push for me when I fully dived into tarot was wanting answers and wanting control.
	And, you know, that really opened a door to a whole bunch of bad, bad things in my life.
	Hmm.
	I think it's James chapter 3.
	Yeah, it's yeah, so yeah, you and your other slide here too, your picture here coming from a new age background.
	And you got some things on there too.
	Do you want to explain that too?
	Which picture?
	I'm not seeing it on my end.
	Oh, it's the one you sent me.
	It says coming from a new age background, and it shows a Catholic priest holding up the chalice.
	Right.
	Coming from a new age background, that was a big reason that I felt such a pull towards the Catholic Church was just the emotional experience of it, the ritual of certain things.
	It really can give like a very similar sense of the same sense of empowerment and as what I was feeling when I was doing my my tarot meditations and my card shuffling and putting it down and reading into what it means and looking for these secret signs of wisdom and information that can only be given to certain authority figures and certain people who are this level of spiritual and dedicated.
	and ritualistic.
	And it really takes the genuine, authentic, and free relationship with the Holy Spirit for granted, I think, and kind of cheapens the experience.
	And that's kind of what I see the Catholic Church doing when they give you a mediator to the mediator and you got to count all these beads and pray all these prayers for all these people.
	And like they just make it something that's just not right and not biblical.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I get a lot of Catholics attacking me a lot.
	It's like with the rituals they do.
	I'm like, yeah, I challenge, like, show me the scriptures.
	And the very few times they do, it's something out of context.
	But, oh, the catechism says that.
	I don't care what the catechism says.
	You know what I mean?
	Like you're adopting pagan rituals.
	And, you know, it's crazy, man.
	And so, yeah, you see like a lot of similarities with the pagan roots in the Catholic Church.
	And yeah, if you're a Catholic out there, guys, I'm not trying to insult you.
	I mean, the church you're in is Babylon.
	It's a Babylonian church.
	And I'm just being straight up with you.
	I mean, you need to leave that place.
	Flee Babylon, as the Bible says.
	So being a new age, did you ever study Helen Bolvowski or Alice Bailey in their New Age books?
	No, I'm not familiar with them.
	Yeah, well, Alice Bailey was like, she was the big pusher of the New Age movement.
	And so she was big into that and the New Age movement.
	And H.P. Bolvowski, she was a Russian mystic.
	And she was a people, you know, where Hitler, where Alistair Crowley and all that learned from.
	And so Alice Bailey, she took that theosophy lessons and turned into more into a New Age philosophy.
	And these two of these ladies here, they were huge, huge pushers of the New Age occultantism and everything else.
	And so very crazy.
	And a lot of New Ages do look into that and all that.
	And did you ever look into the New Age so-called Ascended Masters?
	Did they ever teach you anything like that?
	No, no, I'm not familiar with them either.
	Oh, okay.
	So it's a good thing he wasn't involved in the cult because when you get into the New Age philosophy that deep, they start teaching you about these New Age.
	Like, I don't know if you can see the screen.
	It'll be there in about 30 seconds.
	It says ascended masters.
	And so they got a list of people, anything from Muhammad to all these so-called Messiahs and all that.
	And their fake version of Jesus.
	And they accounted these spirits and everything else.
	And but again, these are familiar spirits that these people count.
	They use astral projection and all that divination to contact these New Age priests and all that.
	And they dig that talking to these ascended masters, they call them.
	And they're stuck in the second heaven or something like that.
	It's crazy stuff from what they teach people and everything else.
	And so it's a good thing that you didn't get that much involved with that stuff because the guy I talked about, Will Baron, I guess the one he perceived to be Jesus, he encountered him.
	And when he was a big New Age priest and all that.
	And when he challenged him one day in the name of Jesus Christ, that's when he finally learned it's not Jesus you're talking to, you know, this is some demonic being you're talking to and all that.
	So it's a very good book.
	If you ever get a chance to get it, it's called Deceived by the New Age.
	And you'll find a lot of stuff in there familiar, but this guy was deep into the New Age.
	I mean, real deep and all that.
	And yeah, then when you really be like, wow, that guy didn't go that far, you know, because of some really creepy stuff and these new age and all that stuff.
	You know, it's crazy.
	So, yeah, you're, I mean, did you get involved with the meditating?
	I think I asked you that, right?
	Meditating and all that.
	Oh, yeah, I was super into like meditation and yoga, and that's where the crystals were a big thing for me.
	I just wanted to point out, I think it's very interesting how you'll notice, even in this, in the spiritual New Age world, there's a hierarchy.
	And in the Catholic Church, you've got this huge spiritual hierarchy.
	It's just interesting to me how the devil always liked to do that in the system, in the systems, and institutions that he comes up with.
	There's always a hierarchy.
	But when it comes to the true gospel, everyone is equal in Christ.
	Yeah, I noticed that too.
	As a Catholic, it's like, oh, and I said, why do we need to pray to these people?
	It's like, well, it's like a job.
	You're going to go through the chain of command.
	It's like, yeah, in the real world, chain of command, but it's like when the boss comes over to you, say, hey, listen, don't worry about my managers.
	Here's my phone number.
	You've got a problem.
	Call me.
	That's Jesus.
	So why do we got to go through saints?
	And even though the Bible tells us not to pray to saints, tells us not to pray to angels, tells us not to pray to Mary.
	And, you know, we got Jesus.
	He's the only media anticipator.
	So why do we need these other people?
	And if you go into the New Age stuff, it's the same thing.
	They got all these so-called sending masses.
	And you don't need any of those things.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, all you need is Jesus Christ.
	He's the only gateway to the Father.
	So, yeah, again, a lot of similarities with these false religions and Catholicism, especially and everything.
	It's like, why are you going to go through all that nonsense when I got the boss's number?
	I could be in the car.
	Hey, Jesus, how are you doing?
	Talk to him directly.
	I don't need the middlemen, like they like to say, but that's where they get you.
	And they wrap you into the occult and all that.
	So did you ever, I think I asked you too about you.
	You ever cleanse anybody's house, right?
	Like, did you do the smudging and all that?
	Yeah, I did the smudging and all that.
	Do you want to explain the process so people know what?
	Well, I mean, the idea in the process is you burn sage, you open all your windows, and it's supposed to cleanse your home from evil spirits.
	Now, for a while, I was dumb and I didn't even open my windows.
	So I had someone come in and tell me one time, like, you know, you're just making them angry when you burn sage and don't open any windows.
	I was like, oh, I honestly, I didn't know.
	So I figured they'd just go through the chimney or something.
	But, but, yeah, I was, I did that for a while.
	And shortly after I was saved, the Holy Spirit convicted me to anoint my home and pray over oil and do it his way, the biblical way, and speak the name of Jesus over my home and trust and be comfortable that that's more than enough.
	Exactly.
	And, you know, that's the whole point: the blood of Jesus Christ.
	And the only things they did use is once olive oil and frankincense and mirth.
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	But you don't even need any of that.
	You know, Catholic Church is, oh, we got holy water and little wands and all that drinks they pull out.
	It's ridiculous.
	And all you need is to call upon the name of Jesus Christ and the blood of Jesus Christ and then go on.
	Just like that.
	And I had been, you know, when I started coming out of the ghost hunting stuff, when I was toward the end of it, I was still doing it just for the sake of trying to help people with the homes against these evil spirits using the blood of Jesus Christ.
	And I said, I'm not, I'm done altogether with the ghost hunting stuff because you're just going around looking for trouble.
	That's what you're doing.
	You know what I mean?
	Even you could be saved, but still, God's going to allow a demon to attack you for being dumb.
	He ain't going around looking for this stuff purposely, you know?
	So I still help with people if they got a haunted house or something like that.
	Call me and I'll help you, you know.
	And going there, just like in the name of Jesus and all that, and cast these things out.
	So I'm glad you come out of this stuff and all that.
	So anything else you want to disclose, like anything that you did, like, so basically, big question I want to ask you.
	So what was the nail in the coffin?
	What was the point?
	It's like, you know what?
	You felt it, you've done it, and something stuck to you with the Holy Spirit.
	Say, this is the nail in the coffin.
	I'm done with the new age.
	What was that point to you?
	When I read the scripture for myself in my Bible, when I read Deuteronomy, I read the whole book.
	And at that point, I was just like, it's all got to go.
	It's all got to burn.
	I don't want any part, anything that even hints towards it.
	For a while, I was a little more hyper-vigilant.
	I've honestly calmed down a little bit.
	You know, like I'd thrown away my Harry Potter shirt.
	Okay, probably wasn't necessary.
	But I just, you know, things like dream catchers, just anything that reminded me of that life, anything that had a tie to that life.
	After I read Deuteronomy for myself, I just really didn't want anything to do with it.
	That was that for me.
	Like I read a part of it real quick here.
	And this seals a lot of deals here.
	Deuteronomy 18, start over verse 9.
	It says, when you come into the land which the Lord God gives you, you shall not learn to do the abomination of those nations you come from, basically.
	And there shall not be found among you anyone that makes a son and daughter pass through the fire.
	And that's the time they're doing child sacrifice to Moloch and all that and Baal.
	Because they would burn the children for the sacrifice and all that.
	Or use divination or an observer of times or an enchanter or a witch or a charmer or a consultant with familiar spirits or a wizard or a necromancer.
	That's somebody who talks to the dead.
	If all you do these things is an abomination to the Lord.
	And because of these abominations, the Lord God will drive you out from before you.
	So now I always point out this is two time limit, two time sequences to talk about.
	Back then when God physically ruled Israel, he told people, yeah, you could come into Israel, become part of Israel, but you need to leave the abominations out.
	Those pagan practices, you can't do that.
	So now, and it says you shall be perfect with the Lord thy God.
	So now in the spiritual sense, we talk about God's Israel.
	God's spiritual.
	We all get grafted into the olive tree to become heirs to the Israel of God, which is not the nation of Israel no more.
	It's the spiritual kingdom.
	And so it doesn't matter who you are, what race, your color, or whatever, you know, if you become a believer in Jesus Christ, you are grafted into God's Israel.
	So this is for the people out there who call themselves New Age witches, New Age this.
	I'm sorry, New Age Christians, Christian witches, Christian that, blah, blah, blah.
	And you still do these things.
	And this is the Lord saying this.
	You know what I mean?
	And his kingdom, you're not going to get to the kingdom of God.
	If you're out there doing divination, observer times like that slide you sent me too here.
	Let me go back to that.
	This lady here, Mrs. Brittany Mueller, if you could actually hear this, you're promoting divination, religious studies, and spirituality and biblical stuff.
	It's like you can't mix the two.
	God's saying, if you do this stuff to your Christian witches out there, this is witchcraft.
	This is the spirit of rebellion, witchcraft.
	David talked about that the show earlier.
	So this is an abomination.
	You know what I mean?
	It doesn't matter how hearts perceive it to be.
	Oh, I'm doing it for the Lord.
	You can't do something evil.
	Like these people have gargoyles.
	Oh, I'm using gargoyles to cast out evil spirits.
	I'm using sage to cast.
	How do you use something evil to cast out evil?
	All you're doing is replacing the smaller devil with a bigger devil.
	And that's why when we used to go to people's houses, it's like, oh, I had these people come in and bless the house.
	What do they do?
	Well, they walked around, they opened windows, put sage everywhere, salt and sage and all that.
	And just chantings and all that.
	Like, it didn't work for a little while, but it got worse.
	Exactly.
	Because what they did is they came in, you know, their hearts, they believe that they're doing something good.
	Yeah, I'm not judging them.
	But what they did is they came in, they kicked out a smaller devil and put a bigger devil in there.
	You know what I mean?
	And so that's all they do.
	And you call it, oh, God forbid, you call a Catholic priest.
	Oh, man.
	And it's even 10 times worse.
	They, you know, the rituals they do is not biblical at all.
	And they use these wands and this holy water and all these charms, incense.
	Same thing.
	It's a new age garbage.
	You know what I mean?
	And their version of Jesus Christ is not a biblical version of Jesus Christ.
	And you don't need all that.
	It's simple.
	You don't need to go become a deliverance minister.
	You don't need to become a priest.
	You don't need to become a pastor.
	You don't need to do any of these rituals in the new age or any cult.
	All it is, anybody that believes in Jesus Christ, you have the power and authority in the name of Jesus Christ.
	And you use conviction, the name of Jesus Christ.
	And by the blood of Christ, I command you to leave.
	And they're going to leave.
	Oh, they will leave, I'll tell you, right now.
	And it doesn't take hours or rituals to do this stuff.
	It's just a commandment to do the blood of Jesus Christ.
	These things are gone instantly.
	And I like many times I experienced this stuff and help people with their homes and everything else.
	And I've encountered some demonic bad spirits, guys.
	And they all flee in the name of Jesus Christ.
	I had sleep paralysis.
	Oh, yeah.
	By the way, I want to ask you about that too.
	So I had sleep paralysis for many years.
	I was demonically attacked in the sleep and everything else.
	And one day when I came to it, it's like, you know, in the name of Jesus Christ, go.
	33 years of my life suffered with sleep paralysis.
	And just in the instant, gone in the name of Jesus Christ, just like that.
	So I want to ask you too, because I know a lot of new agers and people who dabble in the cult, they experience sleep paralysis.
	Did you ever experience that?
	I actually never have.
	I've never experienced it.
	There was someone who was living with me pretty recently that experienced it.
	And I told her, you know, call in the name of Jesus next time it happens.
	I don't know if she ever has or if it's happened again since then, but I have heard so many testimonies of people calling on Jesus during sleep paralysis and it going away.
	Oh, that's good.
	Yeah, good advice for that because that's exactly what works.
	You know what I mean?
	And people say, you got to go see a doctor and they'll put you on the drugs, which makes it 10 times worse.
	You know, any psychotropics.
	And the other thing, too, also, that's another question I want to ask you.
	Ania Cole, I know they encourage people to use psychedelics and things like that.
	Did they do that to you?
	Oh, yeah.
	I was pressured into trying DMT once, which I had already gotten the real version of DMT once before.
	When I tried to kill myself at 19, my brain had started to shut down and there was a DMT release.
	And I did have what I believe to be a very supernatural encounter with God that day.
	But I tried DMT the drug years ago.
	And it was a totally different experience, not like my authentic experience with it.
	The person I was with looked like a demon.
	It felt evil.
	It felt wrong.
	It felt, it was so heavy.
	And the darkness just left me trembling from, and it was only like 10 seconds of an experience, but it left me trembling in fear.
	And like, what?
	That was, that was scary.
	And I'm not going to, I'm not saying anything bad about this person.
	I think he's a cool guy, but he did end up stealing from me shortly afterwards and disappearing and, you know, doing something that was very unkind and kind of derailed me a little bit.
	But it was a crazy experience with DMT.
	And besides that, I actually micro-dosed mushrooms for two or three years to try and manage my PTSD.
	Well, yeah, because I know they don't know because the new H2 goes back to H, because I'm an American Indian, my mother's side, who Wampanoag tribe here in New England, the Thanksgiving tribe.
	So basically, the medicine men and all that, they would use psychedelics to talk to the so-called spirits, but they would communicate with the stochan, the elemental spirits, spirit of fire, wind, water, and all that, which is very much used in witchcraft, whatever, about these stochan spirits, the elemental spirits, you know what I mean, which are very bad, you know what I mean?
	And so use the psychedelics and all that, and also helps people into the astral projection and to talk to these ascendant masters.
	And people think they're hallucinating, which is part of the deal.
	But the thing is, the purpose of the psychedelic is to open the third eye, they call it the pinile gland.
	And that's your main chakra.
	They call it yoga and all that deep levels of yoga and all that.
	So when you sit in these poses, you're trying to align your chakras.
	And then you open your third eye, which invites the kundalini spirit into you.
	And you could talk to these so-called ascendant masters, which are demonic beings, very dangerous stuff.
	And did you ever do that?
	Like when you were doing yoga, did they ever teach you about the kundalini and aligning your chakras?
	I had someone try and teach me about the kundalini, but after that, I had already, I mean, once I learned about that, I had already been saved.
Opening the Third Eye 00:02:01
	And at that point, I was immediately turned off by it.
	And I tried to tell them, because this was also someone calling themselves a Christian, I tried to warn them about it.
	And like, hey, these two things really aren't compatible.
	You need to really pray about this and read your Bible about this.
	And they just got mad and deleted me.
	And I can't judge them because I was there too at one point.
	And I just hope that seed was planted.
	And I pray that it grows over time like it did for me.
	But as far as the yoga stuff, I did know that these are, you know, Hindu poses.
	And they're essentially it is a cultural and religious endorsement towards these false gods.
	I just didn't care at that time when I was doing it.
	But as soon as I was saved, yoga was like an easy one to be like, I'm not doing that.
	I can stretch without doing those specific poses.
	You can stretch without worshiping another god.
	Once you have that information, you know what it is, you know the history, you should know to stop doing it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that was a good thing because Kundalini is, they call it their ancient serpent.
	And that alone should just baffles me because they admittedly call it the ancient serpent spirit.
	And what does that come from?
	The ancient serpent is the devil, Satan.
	You know what I mean?
	And then the Bible says the old serpent, the old devil, Satan, you know, he talks about that in Revelation.
	You know, it's like, and they just don't get it.
	And they don't.
	And they try to sometimes use the Bible to defend the belief sometime.
	But then again, it's just like it's a double standard really.
	It's crazy, man.
	But the whole point is you're trying to bring in the serpent spirit into your wrap around your spine, they call it, you know, through the kundalini, through the chakras and all that.
	It's like that, that alone should put a red flag in your head.
	And when I started learning about that right away, when I, and I didn't know too much, when I heard about ancient spirit, you know, serpent spirit, I'm like, yeah, that, that doesn't sit kosher with me at all.
Attachment Risks 00:03:17
	And so I'm so happy I got out of that garbage.
	Yeah, me too.
	That's that's crazy.
	Yeah.
	And so, you know, thankfully, because like, I know it does affect the family.
	So when you went to this, were you in a relationship at the time?
	Did it affect your relationships with friends, family, and everything?
	Oh, Yes, it was reflecting my romantic relationship a lot because I was constantly waking up and seeking more and more answers and more and more insight.
	And it was never filling, fulfilling, reassuring.
	It was never enough.
	I was just constantly afraid.
	I was in a season of fear.
	And the thing that I had been going to that was supposed to soothe that fear was just kind of feeding it like gasoline feeds a fire.
	It wasn't until Jesus taught me to call on him and depend on him and really surrender it to him that I could really start to become a good mom and a good wife and really release that need for constant control over situations and not catastrophize so much.
	Yeah, because I know it like really messes people because at the time you're like, you try to seek these spirits.
	Is he cheating on me?
	Is he talking to another girl?
	And it makes you worry and it makes you stop trusting the person because you're seeking guidance from these spirits that are making you worry on purpose and all that.
	So you go back to them more.
	I remember my aunt, my Sharon, my uncle Bobby, die-high Christian, but he didn't know her.
	The next door neighbor were going to psychics all the time.
	One day she came home and she beat the snot out of my cousin Karina.
	And my uncle Bobby found out and that was, needless to say, that was the last time that happened.
	So because the psychic was telling her, she was like 14 at the time that she's sleeping around with guys, which wasn't true.
	And told a bunch of stuff about certain people in the house and all that, caused a bunch of chaos.
	And that's what they do.
	And when you do that, you stop getting separated from your family.
	And you start, now you need emotional attachment.
	So these spirits will give you that emotional attachment.
	And more and more now, oh, are they saying something about me now?
	And more and more you're going back to these things to get more answers.
	And the whole time it's just misleading you.
	And, you know, it's causing disarray because Satan doesn't want you having a family.
	You know, he doesn't want the family values, doesn't want anything, nothing like that.
	So he'll split you apart and he'll put you in temporary alliances with people.
	Like, in other words, like, oh, this guy comes out of nowhere with a girl, right?
	And she says, oh, this guy is great because he's what I need right now.
	But the thing is, the guy's meant put there by Satan to mislead you and to bring you into more darker stuff.
	You know what I mean?
	Then when he's done with you, he's going to spit you out.
	And the next, you know, just never stops, you know?
	And I got a question too from Paula Streets.
	Everybody's got questions, guys, for Dana.
	Tomorrow night, we're going to do a phone call.
	So I'm not going to do them tonight.
	But tomorrow night on the broadcast, we're going to do phone calls at 11 o'clock on the last outpost.
	But if you've got any questions, just put them in the chat room and try to put them in capitals.
	But Paul Streets is asking, Dana, did you ever try to talk to the dead?
Facilitating Sexual Immorality 00:05:51
	Nope, I think we lost your audio.
	I lost your audio.
	I'm so sorry.
	I was muted.
	The dead, no.
	I never tried to communicate with the deaf, with the dead.
	It was just all, like I said, you know, it was by demand.
	It was what people were asking of me.
	And I normally just, if you've ever seen psychics offer their services, they'll usually say something like, I'll respond to whoever I'm drawn to.
	And they'll, you know, people, a bunch of people normally will comment.
	And normally when people wanted answers about the dead, it's just not something I felt drawn to and felt comfortable doing.
	There's just something about it that I just didn't, I didn't let, I didn't like the thought of being involved with something I wasn't sure I believed in fully.
	I, you know, just that wasn't something I wanted to be a part of.
	And I also was at the time trying to sort of be Christian-ish is what I was.
	And my pastor delivered a great series on Christian-ish people.
	And so I had just random arbitrary rules for myself that I thought kept me in line.
	And then that just wasn't true.
	Yeah.
	And Maxia and Chris asking, he says, in so many of these deceptive movements, it seems as though sexual rituals are a major part.
	Can Dana clarify this was part of the New Age studies or practices?
	So not that you took part, but in the New Age, was sexual rituals like tantric and all that.
	Was that part of the occult too in the New Age?
	It's just inherently embedded into it.
	And which is just another symptom of when a Satan is running something, you're going to see a lot of sexual immorality because that's just one of the easiest things to lure people into and entice them with, because that's just an evil desire that is very common in people's spirit of lust.
	And so that's something that was everywhere in the spiritual cult for me.
	Like it was everywhere I went.
	There were people cheating, people with polyamorous relationships, people into weird stuff.
	My part I played in that, I ran essentially a sex cult discord where people would join this discord and post nudes of themselves.
	And it was just very, it was just very sexual.
	And that's just part of the false empowerment that you get in that spiritual cult life is just freedom to do whatever you want and indulge in whatever you want.
	And that was, it's kind of funny because shortly after I was saved, I felt like the Holy Spirit was telling me, you were good at building a community and creating something like that for the devil.
	Now I want you to do something similar for me.
	You're going to run a Discord, but it's going to be a Bible study Discord.
	And it's going to be focused on the Word of God.
	And you're going to help people in this way.
	And, you know, it's just an interesting way of turning something that I was using for evil into something for good.
	That's awesome.
	And yeah, I encourage you to do that.
	And I should actually grab the link so people could join it.
	You have the link on you at all?
	Oh, the link to the Discord.
	I can pull that up real quick.
	Yeah, if you want to send it to my Facebook Messenger, I can share it to everybody.
	Sure.
	I haven't used my Discord in a long time.
	And Mexina and Christ is asking another question.
	Would that give an answer instead of sexual acts?
	Do new ages substitute tattoos or body art?
	I'm not sure what he means by substitute tattoos or body art.
	Yeah, try to clear up your question a little bit, brother.
	Because I don't even know what that means.
	Sexual arts, do New Ages substitute tattoos?
	I never did any, and I know he was asking more specifically like sexual rituals.
	And I wouldn't say I did anything like that.
	Yeah.
	I just kind of facilitated a place and participated in a place that was just rampant with sexual immorality.
	Yeah, and to indulge in sexuality like that.
	And, you know, the lusts and all that.
	Like the demon called Asmodius.
	He's like, he's supposed to be the king demon of lust.
	And then you got the succubus incubuses and Lilith and all that, these demonic spirits that have sex with people in their dreams and, you know, all that stuff.
	And a lot of rituals they do too, with the tantric and all that.
	It's crazy stuff that they do.
	And they want you to indulge in your deepest, darkest desires and all your fantasies and all that.
	And that's where they lure you in.
	Because it's when they caught when they stop ripping you out of society, you know, destroying you and your family.
	So they give that temporary fix of the lust.
	So when you have the lust, you get a temporary effect.
	We all know that.
	You know what I mean?
	When you grow up and you get just like, we all, you know, I could say this, we're all adults.
	Yeah.
	So when you, same thing goes with the pornography.
	I mean, you look at porn, right?
	It's all right, you see a naked girl.
	Woo!
	You know, and when you're younger, then it turns to two naked girls.
	And God knows whatever else it pops in fantasies.
	And all of a sudden, now you dive into deep, deep stuff.
	And it's never enough.
	It gets worse and worse and worse.
	Never enough.
	You go into deeper and darker disgusting stuff that never in a million years you would ever do in your life or even think of.
	Now you're doing it.
	You know, it's like, what the heck's going on?
Runes and Sigils: Spiritual Summons 00:07:10
	You know what I mean?
	And so that's where it goes.
	And they, especially in the cult, because they indulge on it.
	They like want you to thrive on that.
	Because we all, as humans, we all get lonely.
	We all get disappointed, despaired, feel rejected, and all that.
	So the lust and the cult and all that is a substitute for that.
	It's like people on drugs.
	They take their fix, they call it, and they're okay for a while.
	So, and they call it, they do that, you know, replace that, the real love for God, the real love of family, because it's gone now.
	So they replace it with this indulgence in sexual fantasies and lust.
	That's a temporary fix, and it just gets worse and worse.
	Instead of getting one pill now, you're on to two, then four, then eight.
	You know what I mean?
	And that's where it goes, you know.
	And Bill Connell asked, how long have the tattoo people been cursing ink and stuff?
	So you want to know if you know anything about that.
	People who make tattoos that sometimes they'll put curses or enchantments on the ink that they use to put in your skin for the tattoo.
	I mean, I don't, I've never dug into that topic specifically, but I'll say right now, people can do that with any item or thing that they give to you or before they touch you.
	Or, you know, I was gifted runes one time, and this was very shortly after I was saved.
	And I felt the Holy Spirit tell me as soon as I got home, you need to just burn those.
	I felt rude.
	And when the person gave me this gift, I was like, this is hard for me to say, but this isn't something I'm really inclined to accept because I'm a Christian now.
	And I don't really have anything to do with any sort of witchcraft or divination.
	And she kind of insisted I take them out and look at them.
	And just the act of taking them out in a witch's world, you know, they look at the ones that you pulled out.
	They assign things to you in the spiritual world.
	They, you know, I'm covered by the blood of Christ, but the intention was obvious.
	And when I took them home, God told me clearly, just throw them away, just burn them specifically.
	And, you know, I did burn all the former witchcraft stuff I had.
	I felt the Holy Spirit told me to burn it.
	And then that feeling of, was that the Holy Spirit talking to me?
	Well, I opened my Bible the next day and I saw tons of scripture on burning false idols and God instructing people to burn it and fully, completely get rid of it.
	And that's what you really need to do when you have any sort of physical things like that.
	As far as tattoos, I mean, that's a permanent thing.
	I guess you can get tattoo removal, but I mean, the blood of Jesus is really all you need in that situation as well.
	Oh, yeah.
	So the runes, good thing you brought that up because, and if anybody like watches our broadcast, if you guys take a look at this, you got automatically think you, oh, these look familiar.
	Well, remember, King Solomon with the 72 sigils, these are symbols used for magic and intention settings.
	And sigils, this is crazy stuff, man.
	And the book of wisdom and Solomon.
	And so he created, they made a movie on this, too.
	Like the people, this guy, I mean, went around hunting demons.
	So every sigil, let me get these, I shouldn't even put these symbols up, but every sigil, right, every symbol is a different demon.
	It's used to summon certain demons.
	And so these pagan sigils, they go back to, again, King Solomon and all that.
	And when he became corrupt and all that.
	So every one of these symbols, it's its own demon to summarize its own demon.
	And the runes, like pagan versions of that.
	So when you said that, it automatically popped in my head that, you know, this is some sigils, you know, which both are similar, as it says over here.
	And it's the sigil is a unique personalized symbol in bed with magical intent.
	And yeah, it's the same thing.
	Just about both symbols, runes and sigils are used from magic and intention settings, but they differ in origin and structure.
	Runes are ancient, set alphabetical symbols.
	And also, you know, we use for divination and casting.
	Sigils are generally created, charged, and then released.
	So basically, that's also where the Pokemon stuff comes from, too.
	You know, they throw out the Pokeball and it's a sigil.
	You throw another Pokeball and a demon comes out of it.
	And the same thing we were talking about earlier with the crystal cards, right?
	They are not a coincidence that the Pokemon have a crystal set and they use an elemental spirit.
	So if you look at the Charizard Fire, I used to be, I love Pokemon at the time.
	And the Pikachu was electric.
	So they were using elemental Stochian spirits in the cartoons.
	And I loved it so much.
	And I was had the little cards, the sets, and everything.
	But it's literally crystal cards that she used to use.
	It's just a toy version of it.
	And just to get people indoctrinated, it's so crazy, man.
	And the sigils and all that.
	And with the runes and all that, it's so crazy.
	And then spells.
	The spells, and they're actually conduits and strongholds for demons, different types of demons and all that.
	It's very crazy stuff.
	We could dive down to so many rapids.
	My kids love Pokemon.
	Yeah.
	And I did for years, even though it was an adult.
	I mean, I was collecting the cards and I got to catch them all, you know.
	And then come to find out so many similarities.
	And it's disgusting.
	And they use these ancient things and they turn it to cartoons, things like that, to indoctrinate the children.
	My niece was, you mentioned Harry Potter earlier.
	She was deep into Harry Potter.
	And one day, I didn't say, yeah, it's just a ding, whatever.
	And, you know, R.K. Rollins, whatever her name is, she was actually a legit practicing witch.
	And she used real stuff in like the books and movies.
	There's real incantations in those movies.
	And I was looking at her toys one day, my nieces, right?
	And she ordered all the Harry Potter wands.
	And one day I looked at them, like, my brother said, you got to check this out.
	They're plastic, right?
	But they're engraved.
	And I'm looking at the wands, right?
	There's esoteric symbols and these toy wands.
	Esoteric symbols.
	And these wands had, let me see if I could pull this up real quick.
	See, Harry Potter wands.
	So I'll pull this up here.
	And I was big into symbology.
	And I'm looking at these things like, you've got to be kidding me, man.
	And then toys.
	And then you have got the toy Ouija boards and all that.
	But these things are engraved with these ancient symbols and all that.
	And it's supposed to be a toy and all that.
	And each one has a different spell to it.
	And they use real incantations.
	And R.K. Walt Rowland.
	Is that her name?
	R.K. Rollins?
	How to create a Harry Potter?
	Oh, J.K. Rowland?
	J.K. Rowland.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	So she's a legit practicing witch.
Diving Into New Age 00:02:14
	You know what I mean?
	And that's where she got.
	She's also a self-confirmed Catholic.
	Yep.
	And that's what helped her write these books and all that.
	And using a lot of real stuff.
	Then they, and it's disgusting because they would cast real incantations onto the toys.
	And the Ouija Buds, Tupaca Brothers, they have kid Ouija boards, pink ones, and all that.
	And you ever heard the Christian one?
	It's on eBay.
	It's called the Spirit Boy to talk to the Holy Spirit.
	Very evil.
	And it's a Ouija board, but they Christianize it, you know.
	And I don't need a Ouija board to do that.
	I could talk to the Holy Spirit right now.
	You know, the Holy Spirit's with us, you know.
	But it's crazy how they just embed the occultism and everything.
	Everything, you know, and it is heartbreaking.
	Sometimes these things are your favorite TV shows, your toys and all that stuff.
	And now it's like, oh, you know what I mean?
	And it's like it's embedded everywhere, you know.
	But yeah, is there anything else you wanted to talk about before we get going?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think we touched up on everything I had in mind.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's got to finish up.
	We're going to dive a little bit deeper into New Age.
	And, you know, we'll get the Kundalini and all that stuff.
	And read off some Bible verses and all that.
	But yeah, thank you so much.
	And it was an awesome pleasure to have you on.
	And what a great testimony.
	And thank the Lord Jesus Christ that you are now free from that.
	Thank you so much.
	I appreciate you having me on your show.
	You're welcome.
	Let me check if there's any other questions before you go.
	Nope.
	Awesome.
	All right.
	Well, God bless us.
	I'll be in touch with you.
	God bless you as well.
	Take care.
	You too.
	So now we're just going to talk about some slides and stuff we want to talk about.
	And because this stuff goes deep and we'll won't be that much longer here.
	So I just want to cut it short tonight.
	And tomorrow night on the last outpost, we'll take some questions and phone calls and all that.
	So I'm going to save it for tomorrow night.
	That's what the show is about.
	So it's taking phone calls.
	It's about you guys, you know.
	So, yeah, let's get back into the slides here.
Black Belt Initiation 00:04:23
	And so, yeah, so the new age practices seem comforting, accurate, and helpful because the devil mixes the truth and lies and deceives and misleads people away from Jesus and the Bible.
	And exactly just that.
	You know what I mean?
	Everything is when a cult robs you of your humanity, the cult robs you of your family and all that, like I said earlier, it replaces it with other things than just temporary fixes.
	You know what I mean?
	That's all they are.
	And you get, and when you start meeting more of a fix, you start relying on these spirits even more.
	And your reliance on these spirits becomes like everything you do.
	Like you won't go out of the house.
	Oh, spirits is okay to go outside the house.
	And is it okay to go to the bathroom?
	You know, some people get that ridiculous.
	Yeah.
	You know, and it's just like then the next thing you're embedded.
	Then when the spirits get done using you, you're no good to them no more.
	Then you have these people end up dead or spiritually and physically hurting everything else.
	So in New Age deception, this is, yeah, that's what the point is.
	They want you to believe that you are God.
	And I know a lot of people do yoga.
	Okay.
	I understand.
	Some people go to the yoga classes with their parents, whatever.
	The ladies like to do the yoga, right?
	They go into the gym and do the stretching and all that.
	But there's different levels of yoga, right?
	You understand this, all right?
	When you get to yoga, right?
	Yeah, it's the stretch and all that stuff, right?
	But when you get deeper into it, you start get the spiritual aspect of it.
	Each pose is opposed to a Hindu God.
	Years ago, I took this stuff too.
	And I studied this stuff.
	And I used to do the acupuncture and all that.
	So I should have never did that.
	Each pose you do is an honor to a Hindu God.
	And then regardless of your intentions, oh, I'm a Christian.
	I'm not paying no patriots to a Hindu God.
	Now, when I was going to karate for a while, and I don't know, I was doing the same thing.
	You know, when we bow down in the middle of the floor, put our belts on and all that.
	We do the kneel and we bow and all that.
	And I'm like, wait, I'm looking.
	It's like, oh, whoa, whoa, stop right there for a minute.
	And I'm learning they're doing to the Buddha statue and to these karate masters or disease.
	And right away I told them, I'm not doing that no more.
	It's like, I respect the school, whatever, but I'm not going to bow.
	I'm not going to do that rituals no more.
	It was me and this other black belt who was a Christian.
	And we both told them we don't want to do that.
	Some people say, well, you can lose your back, black belt, because you belong to the organization or the, you know, whatever the organization is, whatever.
	So I don't care about that.
	I'll tear it up right now.
	I can care less.
	My soul is more important than the black belt.
	So again, it goes into all aspects of society.
	And a lot of martial arts, they do this stuff.
	And, you know, the sensei is, I don't call them master no more.
	I used to do that.
	Oh, you know, bow to the master.
	I don't do that because Jesus says, don't call any man upon the earth.
	Father, you know, father, master, or rabbi.
	You know what I mean?
	So, you know, it goes and they teach the yin and the yang.
	It's all from New Age.
	It's all from, especially the old temple, the Buddhist temples and all that.
	That's why the master martial art.
	And I'm not saying taking martial arts is evil.
	It's not.
	You should learn how to defend yourself, absolutely.
	But when you get to the spiritual things, and I'm not saying necessarily stretching is evil.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm not going to judge people, but when you start doing these special moves, and like whenever in the karate too, like when you start learning chi, that's now you're overstepping the line.
	You learn how to punch a straight, there's nothing evil about that.
	But when you start getting into the chi, you're like, and all that.
	And I forgot the other thing called, which I called with the breathing.
	And it's part of this initiation of the Qi.
	And the yoga, when you start getting to the spiritual aspect, now you're calling on these spirits, these Hindu and Buddhist spirits.
	Same thing in karate.
	Now that becomes a problem.
	Then you start getting slowly enticed into the kundalini, the chi, and it's so stupid.
	It's not even funny.
	It's like you can see these idiots.
	And now I'm a black belt, okay?
	Mind you, I'm a black belt in Shotokan, a black belt and Shotokan and Kenpo.
	And I was orange belt and Japanese jiu-jitsu.
	So in the, you know, just Japanese and whatever, because a different bunch of different arts.
	So anyway, you see these morons on TV, right?
Morons on TV 00:15:07
	It's the same thing.
	Check this out, right?
	You see these so-called karate masters, right?
	They don't even touch the guy there like this.
	And that student goes flying.
	So ridiculous, right?
	And the same thing in the churches.
	Benny him, right?
	He's like, moves his finger, right?
	And all of a sudden, the whole congregation goes, and somebody starts convolting like a moron.
	You know what I mean?
	And yeah, that's Kundalini spirit.
	It's in the churches.
	It's in your karate studios.
	It's in your yoga studios in the deep levels.
	It's New Age garbage.
	That's why you line the chakras up to accept the kundalini, which is a serpent spirit, which is Satan.
	It's a demonic spirit.
	It's not maybe it is or could be or whatever.
	No, it is certainly just that.
	And 1 Timothy 4:1 says the best.
	Now the Spirit expressly speaks expressly that in the latter days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.
	And that's exactly what that stuff is.
	Now, we heard about the universal Christ, they call this, right?
	This is what the world's preparing for, the Maitreya, Lord Majora.
	Not a coincidence, it looks like almost like Jesus because they want you to believe it looks like Buddha too.
	It looks like, I'm not sorry, not Buddha, it looks like Muhammad as well and Allah and all these other things, right?
	So, this is the universal Christ, the false Messiah, the universal Messiah that all religions are going to accept, right?
	And this is huge into the New Age, huge.
	Uh, Benjamin Krem, uh, he was into the New Age philosophy.
	He was a big pusher of this.
	He was talking about the coming of Mitrea, the stars out, um, the certain star of the Messiah is coming.
	So, this is the universe.
	This is the fifth Buddha, this is the return of Muhammad, this is the return of Jesus.
	It's all false.
	This is what they get taught and big in the new age movement: the Lord Maitreya.
	That is demonic.
	That is Satan himself, literally.
	Antichrist spirit.
	Then, now this is a big one into the new age.
	I can never pronounce her name, and I don't care to pronounce it.
	I don't care if I disrespect it.
	Dwal Cole, Alice Bailey claims, is a senior member of a group of hierarchy of masters.
	One of the main spirits walking the street in the New Age movement.
	So, this is one of the so-called ascended masters.
	This is a familiar spirit, a demonic spirit.
	This is huge into the new age.
	He was used to be, it was a guy who actually lived that went to Tibet to learn all the esoteric knowledges.
	He started the meditation, the new age, one of the early fathers of the new age stuff, right?
	And they believe he's ascended master now.
	When I showed you earlier, the pictures of all those prophets and whatnot, right?
	And they think they're in the, I think this is the second heaven, all sitting there all together.
	And they don't, they don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, by the way.
	They believe Jesus is just an ascended master.
	He's chilling out with Muhammad, dealing out with Mitre, Krishna, and all these other so-called gods, right?
	They're all ascended masters.
	They evolved spiritually into the gods.
	They become gods and all that.
	That's what they believe.
	This is some crazy crackpipe stuff, plain and simple.
	And that's what they believe, right?
	And so when you do these types of things, these rituals and all that, you start meditating and all that.
	And Will Barron, I wish I could have interviewed him, but he talked about that.
	He was a priest that did this.
	And you literally leave your body and you go to a natural realm.
	You literally go to a natural realm and you are in a spirit.
	You get your silver cord, you know, the silver cord the Bible talks about.
	You got the silver cord attached in you.
	You know what I mean?
	And you, it's crazy.
	It's like a spiritual biblical cord.
	But you talk to these beings and they'll give you philosophy.
	They're all philosophers and all this stuff.
	But they're all false gods.
	They're not gods at all.
	They're demonic.
	Very.
	Fallen angels, spirits, and everything.
	Crazy stuff, man.
	And so Mora and Kulthi, notice how they all look the same.
	These are these things that come out of the secret doctrine of H. P. Blowski and Alice Beto, the mother of the New Age movement, and her plan to revitalize Christianity.
	So she started injecting this garbage into Christianity.
	Now, H.P. Blavowski, she was a Russian mystic.
	She brought the Theosophy and all that stuff.
	And she's the one who inspired people like Aleister Crowley.
	Big inspiration for Alistair Crowley.
	People like Adolf Hitler, who started dwelling to her.
	And now, Adolf Hitler was not a Christian at all.
	By far was not.
	He learned from H. P. Blavowski, Alistair Cry, people like themselves, right?
	And he created his own movement called Ariosophy.
	Took Theosophy, the occult teachings, esoteric teachings, put it all together, and put his own religion called Ariosophy.
	A-R-I-S-O-V-H-P-A-H-Y.
	And that's what the religion of Nazism.
	That's where the swat stickers are the symbol of the black sun.
	It's from the Vril Society and the Dooley Society, which is satanic as they come.
	You know what I mean?
	And so these people, this is where it all come from.
	And Alice Bailey, she literally injected this into the Christian churches.
	Her people, they went to the local Christian churches.
	Yeah, sound great.
	conditioned pastors and all that stuff.
	And, you know, literally, yeah, it's crazy.
	It really is.
	Hey, I need a drink of water.
	She groomed pastors and all that to go into the churches.
	And the New Age movement's big, big, big into the churches today.
	And I'm going to show you real quick, people like this woman here.
	And I know a lot of people ain't going to like this, but, oh, well, this woman, I know she's praising the Christian world, the mainstream Christian world, right?
	This woman is not a Christian.
	And this is Mrs. Paula White Cain.
	People say, oh, don't judge.
	The best says, don't judge.
	No, the Bible doesn't say that.
	The Bible says, if you judge, judge righteously.
	And we don't judge people personally, but we judge from the evil that they do.
	And we need, it's our job to call out evil.
	It's our job to expose evil.
	It's our job to sound a horn to warn people of this evil.
	And this woman is pure evil.
	Her and her husband both.
	They're not Christians.
	This girl is big into the New Age movement.
	Her and her husband.
	She's a big back of the moonies.
	And I don't know if you know what the moonies, these crackpots here.
	Like the husband's dead now, this Chinese lady, Asian lady, she thinks that she's the female version of Jesus.
	And her husband, when he was alive, thought he was Jesus reincarnated, right?
	And reincarnation is big into the New Age movement.
	Huge into the New Age movement.
	And no, it's not biblical.
	I'll argue anybody day and night.
	Reincarnation is not supported by the Bible.
	And there's a big difference between being resurrected and reincarnated.
	And these people believe in reincarnation.
	And it's unfortunate.
	And you got to understand, too.
	Now, is Trump a Christian?
	We don't know.
	We don't know the man's heart, but he does support a lot of Christianity.
	And I give him praise for that.
	He does support the Christianity movement.
	He's big into that right now.
	You know what I mean?
	He is defending Christians.
	And these countries are being slaughtered by Muslims and all that, which is great.
	But the thing is, even Christians I know think Paula White's a good person.
	So he put her in charge of the Office of Faith in the White House.
	Now, to have an office of faith that defends Christianity, that's great.
	Awesome.
	The founding name of the country was from Christians.
	You know what I mean?
	But unfortunately, not even most of the best Christians out there know that Paul White's a new ager.
	And General Flynn and all these people.
	You know what I mean?
	And these people are deceptive.
	Evil.
	They infiltrate the churches.
	Big into the Catholic Church, like Dana said.
	And she's out there promoting the Moonies, the New Age religion, you know, the universal one-world religion and all that.
	She's a big backer of the Chris Lam and the ecumenical movement.
	So going back into these people, this is where I all come from, man.
	And it goes right back to the Garden of Eden, Genesis 3, which was the first prophecy in the Bible, too, by the way, Genesis 3.
	And this guy here, a philosopher, I got his books over here.
	Secret Teachers of All Ages, right?
	He was a Freemason, a very prominent Freemason, a big philosopher.
	The Secret Teachers of All Ages says encyclopedia outlined them of Masonic, Hermetic, Kabbalistic, and Rosicusian symbolism, philosophy.
	And they believe in a reincarnation.
	They believe in the Kundalini.
	They believe in all that stuff in the occult.
	And he was huge into the cult in Freemasonry.
	And you got the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn that came from Aleister Crowley.
	You notice there's a cross over there, right?
	Don't be deceived by the cross.
	This is satanic as it gets.
	Expecting anything to do with Aleister Crowley.
	And you get that, I mean, the order of the Rosicrucians, the Rosie Cross.
	Then you got the Jesuits, supposed to be the Society of Jesus, right?
	No, don't be deceived by the names.
	Don't be deceived by the symbols.
	We could do shows on every one of these things.
	It's all new age garbage, all of it.
	Every single bit of it.
	And now we want to go back to the angel numbers real quick, right?
	People see this all the time.
	Oh, the Gematria.
	And people, even Christians, they've seen some networks that always do everything Gematria.
	I want to point out, guys, yes, we know the occult like to use numbers.
	We know that.
	They like to use specific dates.
	They like to use specific numbers.
	And they do that.
	But you need to understand, too, Gematria is not gospel.
	I could literally turn Bill Connell's name into 666.
	I could turn Dan Badani's name into 666.
	I could turn anybody in the chat room's name into 666 using Gematria.
	It's the way you finagle it.
	So don't be sucked into Jimatria.
	I almost got sucked into this stuff.
	And it goes on with the angel numbers.
	It's like, oh, I'm seeing 11-11 a lot.
	Oh, I'm seeing 7-7.
	Oh, that's a sign from an angel.
	What angel are you talking about?
	New Age angel, yes.
	Demon spirits.
	You are not going to get a spirit of God.
	And I'll tell you right to your face.
	You are not going to get an angel of God that's going to go throw numbers at you like a retard.
	These spirits are retarded.
	They really are.
	And I'm going to use that language.
	I don't care.
	All right.
	They are pure retarded.
	So if you think an angel from God is going to come around, play games at you, right?
	Every time you look at the clock, it's 11-11.
	Every time you see this, oh, there's the numbers on the license plate.
	You know, that's the angel communicating with me.
	You don't know the Bible.
	You certainly don't know God.
	And you certainly don't know the angels of God.
	Because if you read through the scriptures, every time an angel of the Lord appeared before a man, they didn't play games like that.
	They didn't throw numbers at you and make you want to guess things.
	No, they tell you right now, I'm a messenger of the Lord.
	And every time somebody wants to worship one of these angels, how many times the angels are no, get off your feet.
	I'm just a messenger.
	Angel of God will say, I'm just a messenger.
	These angels, no, they want the praise.
	They want the worship.
	And they play games.
	They play all kinds of games of codes and riddles and all this stupidity.
	It's pure stupidity.
	But people buy it all the time.
	All the time.
	It's very popular.
	I got people in my family who I love to death, but they buy this retardance.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Mental illness retardness.
	There's a gums.
	If you think an angel of the Lord's got to go around putting scents in your house, oh, that's the perfume my mother wore.
	Or the numbers on TV match numbers on my license plate.
	You know, it's a message from the angels.
	No.
	God's angels don't play stupidity like that.
	It's foolishness, vain dumbness.
	That's exactly what Paul will call it.
	And people see this all the time.
	You know, the three digits or the six, the four digits.
	Messages from the angels' numbers.
	And this one, 111, right?
	Follow your heart and trust yourself.
	All right.
	So you say it's an angel from the Lord, right?
	An angel from the Lord is not going to tell you, follow your heart.
	Whoever told you to follow your heart is stupid.
	I mean, what does the Bible say about following your heart?
	Your heart, what does the Bible say?
	It's filthy rags.
	Your heart, every one of us, my heart, your heart, is filthy rags.
	That's what it is.
	It's going to mislead you every single time when you follow your heart.
	It's going to mislead you.
	Now, people say, well, why people like, you know, I'm not being sexist at all.
	People say, well, it's sexist not to have women as leaders.
	Well, the thing is, women are, you know, beautiful creatures.
	You know, they're not creatures.
	I'm sorry, beautiful creation.
	I couldn't live without my wife.
	You know, they really couldn't.
	But women tend to follow their hearts more, their emotions more.
	That's where it misleads you.
	If you follow your emotions in your heart, you're going to be misled every time.
	You need to think with the spiritual mind without no emotions involved.
	And men do this too.
	Men follow their emotions.
	And I most certainly do most of the time when I get emotional wrapped up in something and I'll speak stupidity.
	Then later I feel like a moron, a fool, because I didn't think with the spiritual mind.
	I thought the carnal mind, you know.
	And so that's where it comes from.
	And it says, oh, follow your heart.
	The Bible doesn't say to how follow your heart.
	It doesn't say to trust yourself.
	It says to trust Jesus.
	You put Jesus first.
	You trust him and you follow him, not your heart.
	And seek inner peace, 2-2.
	So angel of God is going to tell you, follow your heart.
	An angel of God is going to tell you to seek inner peace.
	No, angel of God is going to tell you to follow Jesus, not your heart.
	Angel of God is going to tell you, seek Jesus for peace.
	He's not going to tell you to pursue your soul mission and what they perceive to be a soul.
	And he's look at this.
	It's like, you know, this is ridiculous.
	And the universe thing, that's another one.
	Stupidity.
	The universe will offer abundance.
	So yeah, this from all the time.
	And all that really ticks me off.
	I like really hammering to people.
	One of the things that ticks me off beyond anything is when the person comes up and says, oh, they believe in Jesus Christ.
	They love Jesus.
	Read the Bible.
	But yet, the stupidity that comes out of the mouth, when they see somebody get what's coming to them, oh, that's karma for you.
	He got karma.
Karma And The Universe 00:15:44
	You have no right of business even speaking the word karma as a Christian.
	Do you even know what karma is?
	Oh, it goes around, comes around.
	The Bible says that.
	Yeah, well, you repeat yourself.
	Yes, it does.
	But if you had an idea, any clue what karma really meant, you wouldn't be saying that.
	This is big new age philosophy, though.
	And this is what they believe, right?
	This is full karma, not just what goes around, comes around.
	This is more than that, a lot more than that.
	So you're born, right?
	And all of a sudden, you do something bad.
	You don't get to confess it.
	No, you have to pay for that in the next lifetime.
	You can't, no matter what you do, you can't.
	You have to wait to the next life to pay for it.
	This is karma, right?
	So you come back as a lower life form or somebody less fortunate or whatever, right?
	And you have no recollection at all of your past life.
	But somehow you have to rectify the sin you did in the last life.
	And it goes on to the next one, to the next one, the next one, to the next one.
	It gets worse and worse and worse.
	And one day you evolve and say, oh, I come to a revelation of all my past lives.
	Then you stop spiritually evolving back to where you were, then evolve into a God.
	That's the new age philosophy.
	That's what karma is.
	It's retardedness, plain and simple.
	If you look at the word retarded in the dictionary, it should say karma.
	And it's not real.
	This is the stupidity that comes out of most Christians' mouths.
	So it really is.
	And so, you know, it's so dumb.
	And I get fed up because I have friends and family who say this stuff all the time.
	They say, oh, I believe in Jesus, but I believe in karma too.
	You don't know what karma is.
	Karma is not just limited to what goes around comes around.
	And here's the thing, too.
	Yeah, the Bible says you reap with your soul.
	Absolutely.
	If I did something bad, I'm going to get the consequences.
	However, there's a way out of it.
	I don't need to spend several lifetimes to figure what I did out to try and rectify it.
	There's a way out of that.
	There's a way out to stop to reap with yourself.
	There's a way out to stop the karma.
	Way to that.
	Confess your sins to Jesus.
	Jesus says when he takes your sins, he casts them from far as east from the west, and then no more.
	They're wiped out.
	You don't need to go to another lifetime to pay for something you have no clue about, which you did in the last life, which is you don't have several lives.
	See where the stupidity comes along?
	You know what I mean?
	And I talk real, guys.
	I apologize if I sound harsh on people, but you know what?
	That's the way it is.
	Paul and Dick Paul and the apostles talked elegant.
	No, they were sailors.
	I mean, fishermen.
	Of course, they probably had filthy mouths some of the time until Jesus treating them out, you know.
	But I'm just saying, I'm not going to be, you know, articulate with people.
	I'm going to tell you the way it is, and that's it.
	You don't like it?
	There's other channels out there.
	But I care about people's souls, and I'm going to tell you, be real with you and tell you exactly what it is.
	It's stupidity.
	So if you're a Christian out there and you, right now, like you should say yourself right now, when you get off this broadcast, right, or just do it now, pray to the Lord, say, Lord, forgive me for preaching karma.
	That word should not exist in your vocabulary if you're a Christian.
	And I'm not judging you, okay?
	I'm just telling you.
	You have no business at all preaching karma in any which way as a Christian.
	As a follower of Jesus Christ.
	Or any of this stupidity.
	And it's recited in the churches.
	That's the sick part of this whole thing.
	Oh, follow your heart.
	Follow.
	You know, trust in yourself.
	No, you trust in Jesus.
	You follow Jesus.
	Your heart is going to mislead you every single time.
	Every time.
	And it's sickening, really is.
	And it's just dumb.
	And it's this big circle over and over and over again that they want you to suck into.
	And this is some of the stupidity.
	When you see the 11-11, this is the message behind it.
	And yeah, are you going to get symbols like that?
	Yes, you will.
	They're going to pair everywhere.
	And you're going to smell things in the house.
	You're going to go through these spiritual experiences because these are demons.
	These are real spirits doing this to you.
	So you come down enough to say, oh, you know, I really need to tap into these angel numbers.
	Then that's when you get sucked in.
	Then you get lunatics coming to your house.
	Literally, backcrap, crazy lunatics coming to your house, burning sage around your house, walking around, crystals and all kinds of things swinging around.
	And they got sage going on, salt everywhere.
	And it's a big, retarded mess.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Then it gets worse.
	You're calling Catholic priests.
	It's the same thing, but a different way.
	You know, it's just like they take the stupid wand and they dip it in holy water and they get the sash on and they got incense burning and all this.
	Then you get the charismatic people come in, the deliverance ministers, right?
	Shaking like, you know, talking like these fake tongues and all that and shaking like the cavalry and all that.
	This is the stupidity from the new age, guys.
	When it all takes is this.
	You don't need any of that garbage and junk.
	Okay.
	First of all, angel of a guy is not going to be stupid and do this.
	Angel of a guy is going to come to you.
	Dan, I'm a messenger from the Lord.
	And if you like start worshiping, he's going to know, get off you like, you don't worship me.
	I'm just a messenger.
	This is what the Lord wants me to tell you.
	That's it.
	And to get rid of all this stuff, this garbage, or you don't do any of that stuff.
	You don't need the holy water and the deliverance ministry and all that Babylonian crap.
	All you need is to call with conviction in the name of Jesus Christ.
	I demand you to leave right now.
	Go on out of here.
	It's like Babe Ruth hitting Barry Bond's hitting a home run out of here.
	You know what I mean?
	That's exactly how it is.
	You don't need to go to seminary school.
	You don't need to become a Catholic priest.
	You don't need to become a deliverance minister.
	You don't need to go through this cockamethy and ritual bull crap.
	All you need to do is call upon the name, Jesus Christ.
	That's it.
	Go on out of here.
	And this is the stupidity.
	This gets me so aggravated, really, does it?
	Because the thing is, people buy this stuff.
	Christians buy this stuff.
	Angels and ascended masters like Jesus, Yanga, Buddha, and many others.
	And Jesus is not ascending Mazda.
	He's the Messiah.
	He's the Lord.
	God in the flesh.
	The image of God.
	That's who Jesus is.
	He's not equivalent to these people.
	These people are demons or dead people.
	That's what they are.
	They can't help you, and they certainly mislead you big time.
	The only way can help you is Jesus Christ Himself.
	Now, I'm not talking about the other one.
	All that really ticks me off, too.
	This is where I'm sworn.
	Yeah, we go.
	So when I hear a Christian, oh man, this really drives me up a while.
	When I hear a Christian saying, oh, the universe is going to help me today.
	I want to take, oh, boy.
	I'm going to try to bite my tongue because the human side of me is going to come out and swear.
	So that's what I'm going to do.
	So I'm going to try to bite my tongue.
	So when I hear a Christian do that, I want to take this Bible, smack him right over the face with it.
	It's for being stupid.
	The universe is going to help me today.
	The frequencies, the vibrations of the universe.
	That's where the new age comes into this stuff, too.
	That universe you're talking about.
	In two weeks, we're going to do a show on this, by the way.
	I got a Joe, what's his name there?
	Coming on.
	We're going to do a shirt on the biblical cosmology of the earth, right?
	So that so-called Joseph Caruso, we met him at the SpiritCon.
	He's coming on in two weeks.
	So we're going to do a show on biblical cosmology, flat earth, whatever you call it, right?
	So that so-called universe you're talking about, this powers and vibrations and frequencies.
	And the cosmic Christ they call it too.
	It's a consciousness.
	So they believe in Jesus, like I said, but they believe in the cosmic consciousness of Jesus.
	And we all have, we're made in the image of God.
	So we all have this cosmic consciousness of Jesus.
	We can summon it using our vibrations, frequencies, and all that.
	This is the mental illness in the New Age cult.
	You can't do any of that crap.
	And I'll tell you to your face.
	There's no cosmic Christ.
	There's no universe.
	Okay.
	The universe doesn't have powers.
	And there's no mother earth.
	There's no female spirit that runs the earth.
	Hate to burst any of our bubbles.
	This is God's earth he created.
	He created, not her.
	He.
	The Holy Spirit is a he, not her, because they do that too.
	In the new age, they believe the Holy Spirit's all female.
	The female Shekinah, you know, you know, what's the name of Sophie, Sophia?
	That's New Age garbage.
	There's no she in the Godhood.
	All right.
	The universe you're talking about, it's called the firmament, actually.
	And all that is, it separates the waters from above and waters from below.
	And God placed the sun, moon, and stars within the firmament with his handiwork.
	Those are angelic beings run by dominion angels.
	Dominion angels control all that up there.
	There's no universal power.
	There's no universal Christ consciousness.
	There's no vibrations, no frequencies, none of that mumble jumbo garbage.
	You don't become a God, get over yourself.
	Plain and simple.
	You will never become God or anything like God.
	So you really need to get the hell out of yourself real fast and quick.
	Because you've got to be, and you think I'm harsh here.
	You've got to be in for one hell of a root awakening.
	When you come to realization one day, when you think you're evolving, advancing to a higher consciousness, because your idiot teacher taught you this, right?
	Or the church, you will learn this, right?
	So when you think you advance, I'm going to evolve into a higher consciousness and then do all the karma stuff.
	Now it's time to evolve to a higher consciousness, to become my own God.
	The only thing God you ought to be of is your own demise.
	That's it.
	Because you've got to be sitting down at the pits of hell, then the lake of fire after judgment day.
	Then ask yourself, am I really God?
	The only thing you're a God of is the crap house.
	It's about it.
	That's about it.
	You know what I mean?
	Without Jesus Christ, you ain't doing none of it.
	You ain't going anywhere.
	But to the lake of fire.
	And that's not what I'm saying.
	That's what the Bible says.
	That's what Jesus Christ says.
	Don't like it?
	Tough crap.
	I hope I offended you.
	I really hope I offended you.
	Hope I just destroyed every ounce of belief you had in that New Age crap.
	I really do.
	Hope I just destroyed your whole day today.
	I hope I just ruined everything, your whole foundation of your world today.
	I hope I ruined it for you.
	I hope I do because I want you to understand it's not you.
	And if you notice the New Age cults, all of them.
	We mentioned the Essenes, the Gnostics, the Ebonites.
	We'll go down the list, man.
	I'll tell you.
	The Kabbalah and all that.
	It's about you, spiritual enlightenment.
	You, you, it could be going like God.
	You could be a God.
	You, And this is what separates the Bible from any of the in the world.
	This is not about you.
	The word of God is not about you.
	It's about you humbling your ass before Jesus Christ.
	That's what it's about.
	You humbling yourself, your prideful, sinful self.
	You humbling it, your butt to Jesus Christ.
	All the other religions, no, they elevate you.
	You could reach the spiritual enlightenment.
	You could evolve to a God.
	You could do this.
	You, you, you, you.
	No, it's not about you.
	And you're going to one day you got to think, it's all about you and all that.
	And boom, you're going to be cut off and slammed into the pits of hell.
	And then you're going to realize real quick it's not about you.
	It's about humbling your butt before Jesus Christ.
	That's what it's about.
	This is why this separates this doctrine.
	No other doctrine in the world comes close to this.
	Because all those other doctrines elevate you or false God.
	This elevates Jesus Christ.
	All the praise and worthies goes to Jesus.
	It goes to the Father.
	With his creation.
	Get over yourself.
	You are not going to become a God.
	You never will be.
	And I don't want to hear some clown out there.
	Oh, and I debated many ages.
	Oh, your Bible says we could become a God.
	Your Bible says we're a God.
	No, it does not say that.
	Because, again, going back when we bring the show, when the Bible shows gods, right, your God, you gods, right?
	With the lowercase G.
	It's mocking them.
	The Bible's mocking it.
	It's not saying there's gods out there.
	It's not saying that you could become a God.
	It's marking it.
	It's mocking you.
	That if you think you could become a God.
	That's why it's a lowercase G.
	A lowercase L for Lord.
	Yeah, people say, well, you can't call Jesus Lord because it's Baal worship.
	The people worship Baal called Baal Lord, and they did.
	They call Muhammad Lord.
	They call Joseph Smith Lord.
	I mean, not Joseph Smith.
	You know, all these cults call them Lord, but it's a lowercase L. Jesus is the only capital Lord.
	He's the Lord of Lords.
	The king of kings.
	That's why it's capitalized.
	God, the Heavenly Father, is a big G.
	So when the Bible talks about these other gods and all that, he's not actually saying they're gods.
	He's making a mockery out of them.
	That's what people do not understand.
	That's what these New Age is all the time.
	They'll say, oh, look, you know, your Bible says this and that.
	Well, if you actually knew the Bible, what the heck are you talking about?
	I mean, you'll be putting your own foot in your mouth and you don't even realize it.
	So let's go right into scripture today, man.
	Woo!
	Let's go.
	Galatians 1, 6, and 9 says, I marvel that you are so soon removed from the call to the grace of Christ into another gospel.
	And they preach these other gospels, which is not another gospel.
	This is Peter, or Paul, I'm sorry, saying there is no other gospel.
	But if there be some trouble you that would pervert the gospel of Christ, but through we or an angel of God, heaven preach any other gospel unto you that we have not preached, let them be accursed.
	So you hear that in the churches, oh, we need to respect all religions and all beliefs.
	Yeah, your church says that, but the Bible doesn't.
	You know what the Bible says, though?
	Let them be accursed.
	And goes on to verse 9.
	As we said before, and I'll say it again: if anybody preaches another gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
	Not respect them, not say, oh, we need to respect them.
	No, I'm not going to respect your religion.
	I'm going to bash the hell out of it.
	I'm going to slam it into the pits of hell where it belongs.
	But you won't hear that in churches.
	Oh, you know, everybody's got to, ooh, we got to cater to the Muslims.
	We got to cater to the Buddhists.
	We got to cater to the LGBTQ.
	We got to cater to these people.
	That's a church of hell.
	I ain't catering to crap.
	The only thing I'm catering to is the gospel of Christ.
	You don't like it too damn bad.
	That's how I feel about it.
	And I hope I pray.
	I hope I insulted you.
	I pray.
	I hope I offended you and your whole stupid religion.
	Because I go by what Jesus Christ says.
	I don't care less at what your church says, what your pastor says, or your mom taught you.
	You care less about that.
	And people dig that, I hope I offended you.
	I do.
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	And 1 Timothy 4:1 through says, Now expressly express that a lot of times, which is now these days, right?
	Some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies of hypocrisy and having their own conscience shared with the hot iron.
	Forbidden to marry in this Paul here is talking about Timothy.
	I'm talking Timothy about the Essenes at the time.
	That's what the Essene does do there, right?
	And commanded to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
	Because the Essenes, they don't believe in eating meat.
	So at the time, the Essenes were like, we did a whole show on the Essenes.
	But Paul's warning Timothy about the Essenes.
	And all scripture is inspired of God and profitable for doctrine or reproof or correction for instruction and righteousness that the man of God may be perfect through furnished unto all good works.
	Yeah, and this is a big one today with the New Age garbage.
	2 Timothy 4, 3, and 4 says, For the time will come when they will not endorse sound doctrine.
	What's that mean?
	They're not going to endure the Bible.
	It's sound doctrine.
	You know, like Dana said, right?
	They use the Bible.
	I have context, of course.
	Sound doctrine means Bible only.
	Catholic Church, no, no, no, no, not just the Bible.
	We need the catechism, though.
	New Age, oh, you can use some Bible verses, but we need to go by our doctrines.
	Church of Latter-day Saints, right?
	The Mormons.
	Yeah, the Bible's cool, but we need to go by the Book of Mormons.
	The Book of Mormons, I call it.
	Jehovah Witnesses, oh, the Bible's cool.
	Yeah, we got some of those verses in our watchtower, but we need to go by with a watchtower.
	This is what Paul's talking about.
	They will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lust shall heap themselves into teachers, having itching ears, and shall turn away from their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables.
	So your karma is a fable.
	Your universal consciousness and Christ involved, it's garbage.
	It's fables.
	You don't become a God.
	Okay, that's fables.
	Exactly what Paul's saying.
	And Titus 1, 9 to 11 says, holding fast to the faithful word as has been taught, that he may be able to sound doctrine both to exhort and convince the gaysayers, gainsayers, gaysayers.
	For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, especially they of the circumcision whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which ought not to be taught for filthy Lucre's sake.
	And these are the new age clowns going around to tell you you can become a God.
	That's what, you know, this is, you know, it's amazing.
	The Bible here.
	And this one's great.
	I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book.
	If anybody adds to them, God will add them the plagues of which were written in this book.
	And if anyone takes away from the words of this book, this prophet or this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city which was written in this book.
	Mark 11:4:24 says, Therefore, I say unto you, What things have you ever desire?
	When you pray, believe that you receive them, and they shall be received through Jesus Christ.
	And I got a couple more verses, and we're going to slam this home tonight.
	So, New Age stupidity, exactly what it is, man.
	It's retardedness.
	And, you know, I'm not going to be saved for using that.
	So, when I talked about this, though, and people say all the time, well, I got visited by operation.
	An angel came to me.
	My mother or whoever visited me at my bedside the other night.
	And she's been dead, right?
	And so, this is what the Bible says about that.
	1 John, I'm sorry, I thought it was Paul at the time.
	I think Paul says something similar, but it's in 1 John here.
	John the Apostle says, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
	Hereby you know that the Spirit of God, every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is coming in the flesh, is of God.
	And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus is coming in the flesh is not God.
	And this is the spirit of Antichrist.
	Wherefore you have heard and should come, and now is already here in the world at the time.
	It's here every morning and whatever.
	Well, you are of God, little children, and have overcome them because greater is he that is in you that is in all the world.
	So the New Ages will misuse this too.
	Show, oh, he's in you, so you're God too.
	No, that's not what it's saying.
	He's greater than you, he's greater than all of the world.
	He's not saying that you are great, he's saying he's greater because great is he, not you, he that is in you.
	Now, he's not saying that you are, he said he that is in you, then there's all the world.
	They are of the world, therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them.
	So, and people say, How dare you talk about Paul Wait like that?
	How dare you talk about Ben Him and Joel Osteen?
	These are prominent teachers, and these people show so many books, save so many lives, so many souls, and all that.
	These people that are loved by the United Nations, they're loved by all the world, and that's the problem.
	If you got any preacher out there right now that's loved by the world, that's promoted by the world, that's not a person of God.
	Jesus says the world's going to hate you for his sake because they hated him first.
	So any clown that's out there will get world recognition.
	And I'm not talking about people like what's named Charlie Kirk that had a lot of influence.
	I'm not talking about people like them.
	I'm talking about people who are promoted by the globalists that go to UN conferences to speak.
	That go to world summit meetings to speak.
	That have billions of dollars in their ministry.
	That are promoted by the mainstream.
	Those people are not of God.
	They are Satan.
	So literally, they're the Antichrist.
	The whole crap going on there with the Pope is the Antichrist.
	Pope is an Antichrist spirit, I should say.
	And I believe he's a false prophet.
	And people, the Imans going around with the Pope, you know, representing Islam.
	The Zionist fake Jews going around.
	Rabbis, they call them, right?
	No, there's no rabbis.
	There's only one rabbi.
	It's Jesus Christ.
	I'll never call a priest father.
	Never going to call a rabbi rabbi.
	Okay, and they're false teachers.
	That's what they are.
	And I don't want, oh, they're God's people.
	No, we're God's people.
	Anybody who believes in Jesus Christ is God's people.
	You know, and it's just ridiculous.
	And the world looks up to these people.
	And again, you know, we go to Deuteronomy 18.
	There shall not be found among anyone that makes a son and daughter go through the fire or uses divination or an observer time or a chanter or a witch or a charmer or consultable with familiar spirits or a wizard or a necromancer.
	For all that do these things are abomination to the Lord.
	And because of these abominations, God will drive you out before you.
	And in today's terms, he's saying you're going to go straight to hell.
	Plain and simple, right to the point.
	You're going to go straight to hell.
	Then after judgment, you're going to go to a worse place than hell because hell itself is going to go with you into a place called the lake of fire.
	That's Revelation 20.
	A much worse place than hell.
	Hell is only a temporary place.
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	It's like sitting in the jail cell until you go to court at the police station.
	Or the court house.
	Then we get sentenced to go to the big house, the big prison.
	Yeah, all kinds of garbage stuff goes on.
	Yeah, that's the lake of fire.
	Hell itself gets thrown into that, though.
	All the angels, the fallen angels get thrown into that.
	Satan himself gets thrown to that.
	Satan doesn't go to hell.
	I want to let people know.
	Satan doesn't go to hell.
	He's not even in hell.
	Demons don't suffer in hell either.
	Only humans.
	It's only a temporary place for humans.
	It was never meant to be for humans, but and it's the lake of fire.
	That's the big house.
	So if you want to go into this abomination stuff and dick and y'all have walked into heaven because your pastor or priest told you so, yeah.
	You need to start reading the Bible and trust in Jesus Christ.
	And that's about it.
	So I'm done with my presentation tonight.
	So guys, if you like the broadcast tonight, we got a donation page, which is at the end of the month.
	And, you know, we've got bills coming up.
	And like every month it's like that, man.
	Lately, it's crazy.
	It's like we've been struggling a lot.
	But, you know, I do have faith in the Lord and I know the Lord will provide.
	So when the bills come up, it's a rent for the studio.
	And sometimes we need equipment, whatever the case.
	But thank you guys for who do donate and all that.
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	If you pray for us, that's just even better than money.
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	But if you guys have the kindness of your heart to want to donate, please do that.
	And that goes to the ministry here to, you know, because I rent a studio.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't, I'm not sitting in my house.
	I wish I was in my house, but my voice will keep the whole family up all night, you know.
	But I'm in the studio and I got to pay rent here.
	So that's where the money goes to.
	And it's not some extravagant place.
	It's an old mill building that I got a little office space here and the internet and all that stuff.
	So that's what it is.
	If you need to get a hold of me, guys, truthradio show at all.com.
	And it's my snail mail.
	If you want to send me something in the mail or whatever, I like the letters.
	So if you like, type out a letter or write one, please do that.
	I love that.
	Like David Caraco does that.
	You know what I mean?
	We like the letters that come in the mail.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm going to block the address here.
	But, well, the person's up.
	But I like these little cards and stuff.
	They'll send me things in the mail.
	This is from this one here.
	Sister Bridget.
	She wrote, Dear Dan, Badandi, thank you for your amazing teachings.
	I love your guest, Susan.
	This last week's show was awesome.
	I hope the year goes by great for you.
	This was in December.
	She sent me this.
	And with great help and happiness and love and God bless Bridget.
	So that's awesome.
	Yeah, I like that stuff.
	And guys, I just want to let you know, too, the people who do donate, I do see that.
	It's sometimes the page where you donate to.
	I do send messages back, but sometimes it doesn't get to you.
	But I do see them.
	And I, you know, thank you from the bottom of my heart for those who do donate, donate, whatever the case, and pray for us and all that.
	From the bottom of my heart, I recognize every one of you.
	Trust me.
	And I know a lot of people don't want their names right on the air because the Bible says that give it to your left and not the right no.
	In other words, like give it in secret, you know what I mean?
	And that's where we encourage you, you know.
	So thank you so much and everything.
	So we will see you tomorrow night live.
	Live, live, live.
	And don't forget to check out Biblical Warfares on Thursdays.
	And live, live, live tomorrow night, 11 p.m. Eastern.
	And before that, if you go to FOJ Radio, David and Brian is doing a show at 9 o'clock.
	Then at 11 o'clock, we're back here again live.
	We're going to take phone calls and all that stuff.
	So tune in tomorrow night.
	So love you all, guys.
	And, you know, hope I got the point out, man.
	I really do.
	And I hope these people wake up for this stupidity.
	It really is.
	It's dumbness.
	And I can't put it anywhere in any better way.
	And maybe using the word retardas is probably bad.
	I don't know.
	But that's the best I could do.
	Because that's like that.
	That's being nice.
	Okay.
	I'm just trying to put it that way.
	That's me being nice to use the term retardiness with this occultism stuff because it's pure retardanus.
	It's nothing to do with handicapped people or nothing like that.
	You know, I love people.
	I mean, people, autism, and all that.
	They're great people, great souls.
	And, you know, things like that, mental illness and all that.
	So nothing to do with that term.
	I'm talking about, I'm reusing that word for these people in the occult that preaches garbage stuff.
	Black Belton Bible teachings, thank Dirty.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for the donation.
	Yep.
	What's up, Tactical Billy?
	I think my voice is starting to crack here.
	And yes, Donna and David's address.
	Thank you, Brother Bill, for moderating tonight.
	And thank you, Sister Joanne, for moderating.
	Me and you, Dan, agree with you.
	I did it in the past, but now no better.
	And we'll do it.
	Amen to that, sister.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	And I wish I could take you.
	I didn't even hook up the phone today, but my voice is shot already.
	So I'll see you guys tomorrow night.
	So it's 11.
	Actually, exactly 24 hours from now, we'll see you then.
	It's 11.13 here, so 24 hours from now, we'll be back here.
	So love you all, God, guys.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Take two.
	Let's say I love you all.

Chapters

00:00:19 Quality Before Quantity
00:04:48 Mrs. Dana Smith: New Age Insights
00:11:38 Satan's Temptation
00:16:32 Wanted: People Not Their Own Gods
00:25:50 God's Direct Messages
00:41:22 Background Intrigue
00:56:37 Demonic Encounters in Israel
01:06:48 Opening the Third Eye
01:08:49 Attachment Risks
01:12:07 Facilitating Sexual Immorality
01:17:59 Runes and Sigils: Spiritual Summons
01:25:09 Diving Into New Age
01:27:24 Black Belt Initiation
01:31:47 Morons on TV
01:46:55 Karma And The Universe
02:02:40 Catering to God's People
02:10:40 Donate Directly